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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, of course,
we're going to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination and
all the latest information on that. We're going to get
into why some fans are worried about actress Lily Collins,
a gruesome beheading caught on film in Dallas, why so
many women in their forties are getting pregnant by accident,
(00:43):
a physician that was arrested for revealing the gender of
a fetus, and a suicide note found at Goodwill. All
that and more followed by your questions. On today's episode,
let's get started with definitely the most talked about case
of the week for sure, if not years.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I mean, unless you're living under a rock, you've
had to have seen this case. I don't know if
everybody's seen the video per se, but definitely everybody should
know about the assassination of political activist Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
He was killed last Wednesday at a rally at Utah
Valley University. In the middle of his talk. These gunshots
rang out and then blood started spraying from his neck.
And everybody was screaming and ducking. All these crazy videos
came out of the incident because people are I guess,
live streaming the talk and just happened to catch it
on film. And it's just so scary to see these
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videos plastered all over the internet.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, it's it really is the most unusual death that
we've talked about, especially with a celebrity at least anyway.
I would almost say since the JFK assassination that was
also caught on film, but now it's even just in
the digital age, right, it's just so much different because
(01:59):
not only was is it essentially live live streamed, right,
it was multiple people, like you said, from all different angles.
And now we have the ability on each individual phone
to go by the film step by step and try
to figure out for ourselves what happened, because we've obviously
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with the JFK assassination, there was just so many controvers
conspiracy theories, which a lot of them ended up being true.
So there's a lot of trust issues there. So now
we're like, we don't necessarily trust what you're telling us,
so we're going to try to figure it out ourselves
kind of thing. And I guess you know, the JFK
incident was caught on the zab Bruder film, which they
(02:43):
went by frame by frame and presented the story to us.
But now we're able to do that ourselves. In a way,
it's just such it's such a different thing that we've
never experienced before.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, and I've been seeing a lot of people compare
this to the Luigi Mangioni case, and and that is
just so different. I mean that video ended up being released,
but it wasn't being live streamed like in this case.
This was probably uploaded seconds after it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, and the Luigi Mangioni case too, was a smaller
ammunition and didn't didn't leave you horrified the way this
one was in clear daylight with very high definition film,
being able to really see a person dying like that
in front of you. I do see the comparison though,
(03:32):
for sure, because it's just I think that we talked
about this with Luigi Banngioni. It's like when you start
making a person really a hero for killing someone that
you don't agree with, then there's going to be other
situations that follow, and sure enough that we're here, So.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I mean, it's just a weird thing to see.
And even in the Luigi videos, like you see him
approach Brian Thompson and go up to him and put
the gun and then you see Brian Thompson fall to
the ground right like you're not seeing the blood actively
squirting out of his body.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's horrific.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, it was. I mean, it's it's funny because I
have I literally have a website called the Gross Room
where all we do is look at pictures and videos
that are gruesome. And you know Jen that works with us.
She sends us videos and news stories all the time.
And we have this ongoing joke because she always sends
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us like a cool news story and I'll write her
back and say, we have that on the list already.
So she's always just like, God, I never could give
you one that you didn't hear of. And I was
going to pick up my kids from school and she
texted me a video and I just opened it. I
don't she text me videos all the time that are
just like funny stuff or whatever. And I opened it
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and I was like, oh my god, like it took
my breath away. I was like, oh my God, is
that real? And and I just I couldn't really believe
that that was that that happened, and that was just
spreading around online like that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean, you don't often see videos of people
just getting like executed like that in front of a
giant crowd of people.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It was insane to watch one thing.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
That was really interesting to me too, because obviously, like
I do this for a living, so anytime someone sends
me a video like that, I'm always like, I'm going
to screen record it really fast because that's going to
get off the Internet in two seconds, just because those
videos typically do. And in this case, it's like regular
everyday people were sitting there saying that it was coming
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across their feed, like they were looking at flowers and
puppies and things like that, and then this just came
into their feed. Oftentimes people didn't even know who the
guy was. It just was like everybody saw it, even
if they never looked at any kind of gory things
like that before.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Well, I never heard of him before this happened.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then I got a text message about event from
one of my friends, and then I looked it up
and then the video started poring in right.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They were everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I also, like you thought they were gonna be taken down.
I've only seen them taken down on Instagram. Really, they're
all over X, which I find ironic because only a
couple of weeks ago, when we had talked about that
guy that preserved tattooed skin, we made a social clip
of that little part of that episode, and that got
taken down for violence, right, And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Listen, I stumbled across like anal sex videos on I
didn't even realize on X that you were allowed to
post things like that until Kanye West. Remember Kanye West
posted all that porn stuff. Yeah, and I was. I
was shocked, honestly, And I said to you, you're allowed
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to like this guy is posting penetration on here, and
You're like, yeah, you're allowed to do porn on there.
I didn't even realize that, but I've stumbled across it
just be because of the certain things that we look
for on this show.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, the rules got adjusted a lot when Elon took over,
and then you know, like there's the porn element. That's
why I was really shocked on ex to our video
got taken down because I'm like, we're not even talking
about anything bad. We're talking about a doctor in the
historical science, but I appealed to it. I got restored. But
at the same time, like you have videos of really
graphic porn and then you have videos of people getting
(07:25):
murdered all the time on here.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
God, there's so many of them. There was a part
of the first two days of this happening that every
single picture that I saw was different angles of the assassination.
It just was. It was really nothing like I've ever
seen before.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, especially if you're engaging with the content, they're just
going to keep feeding it to you.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, it just I don't know, it just it just
was really not the situation. So as of today, right
now at noon on Tuesday the sixteenth, we don't have
an autopsy report yet that at least has been released
to the public. So anyone at this point that's talking
(08:07):
about what exactly happened to him is just speculation because
no one has gotten to examine their body except the
people that were directly involved with the investigation. So all
this is what I've been saying because a lot of
people obviously have been asking me what I think, And
all I could really say for right now for sure
(08:28):
is that the same exact thing that all of you
guys have seen, which is he has a gaping wound
in his neck. We don't know if it's an entrance wound,
and we don't know if it's an exit wound. At
this point, all we know is that there is blood
pouring out of this gaping wound in his neck, which
is indicative of a serious vascular injury. Right there would
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be the karated the left common crotid artery coming right
off of the aorta, and if that thing was severed,
this would explain why the blood was just gushing out.
It is one of the closest arteries to the heart,
and every single time the heart beats, it's just squirting
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out and squirting out and squirting out. So we could
say that his body and his heart were pumping and
he was physically alive when he got shot, but we
don't know exactly what happened. I didn't see an exit wound.
It doesn't mean there was an exit wound or there wasn't.
We just don't know. I mean, we didn't even really
see the entire back of his body. We don't know
(09:33):
if he was wearing any kind of armor. We don't
know anything right now. So all of it is just speculation,
and there's a lot of different scenarios that could happen,
and we just kind of have to wait for it
to come out to really be certain of his injuries.
But we know that he was bleeding profusely out of
this wound and he was exanguminating. If you look at
(09:56):
the amount of blood, so a human can live with.
A human has about five liters of blood in their
body right and you could live if you lose two
if you have life saving intervention right away, and even
then it's like you could possibly If you think about
(10:16):
losing two lids of blood, that's like a two liter
bottle of soda or like a half of a gallon
of milk. It's really not that much fluid. And when
you look at the video and you see all that
blood pouring out of his neck, there's absolutely no way
that anybody is surviving that injury. It's just not happening.
If it was, let's say, for example, he got shot
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in a major artery of the arm and you were
able to tourniqate it off, there would be a possibility
of surviving something like that, But in your neck, that
can't be tourniquet. We also discuss this in the gross
room this week that like, why was there not an
ambulance on site right there at an event with three
(11:00):
thousand students at a university.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, that seems weird.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's weird. We saw his security guards carrying him to
the van. There's no blood dripping that they're walking on
a tan sidewalk. There's absolutely no blood on the ground,
which means to me that he was already his heart
was not beating because the blood wasn't coming out anymore
unless they were able to plug it up. That's a
(11:25):
possibility to They did say that he was alive at
the hospital for some time afterwards. I personally think that
that was just like think about this from his friends
and family perspective, like which many of them had said
that the way that they found out that their friend
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was shot or dead is because they saw the video online.
Because everybody's always on their phone and always on social media.
It's possible that they just put that out there to
like kind of try to break the news to the
family and friends. It's a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I was surprised because reports were coming out that
he was stabilized at the hospital.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
There's no way he was stabilized.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
As a lay person I saw the video, it was
like if he survived that, that's an absolute miracle.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I mean, there is just no way there was exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I know you're saying it's like not that much fluid,
but like to me, that looks like a lot of
blood to be losing.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
No, it I it is, it's it's it's not when
you think about it, like a half a gallon of milk.
If you just look at it, it's just kind of
if you poured it on the floor for example. It's
it's it's not that much really, right in comparison to
what you would think is inside of your body. But
he I mean listen, like he was unconscious within seconds. Yeah,
(12:46):
he likely stroked out because of that, and that's why
he had that decord icay position, which if you notice
in the video, he as soon as I mean shortly
after he got shot, within seconds, his arms, both of
his arms went up to his chest in a tight position,
and that's indicative of a serious brain injury. So and
(13:12):
we don't know what that was caused by. Was it
caused by just the disruption of oxygen getting to his brain,
because his carotid artery was obliterated, or was it because
of ammunition hitting his brain or shrapnel like a bone
breaking off and hitting his brain or something like that.
(13:32):
So whatever it was, that was what caused him to
have that position. But that's also consistent with a person
being unconscious. So it was very I guess to the
relief of his family and friends watching that video, which
I just can't even imagine seeing someone I at. I mean,
(13:52):
it's disturbing to watch a stranger get shot like that,
let alone like somebody that you know and love. And
it just was the white shirt and it was the
white back, right, it just was so graphic. And didn't
we didn't we see something similar with that quarterback on
the Miami Dolphins when he got tackled and it was
a repetitive concussion where his fingers kind of curled up,
(14:13):
Like yeah, well that yeah, and that one could be
a different kind of head injury as well, but yes,
like it's a certain kind of postulation that happens if
you get a brain injury like that. So yeah, I mean,
I just it's just it's just really just it was
disturbing and it's disturbing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then as far as the investigation goes, they have
somebody in custody right now. He's twenty two years old
Utah resident. His name is Tyler Robinson. Police had released
footage of the suspect, and this guy's dad actually recognized
him as his son, confronted him about it, said he
confessed and eventually urged him to turn himself in. So,
(14:56):
of course there's a million conspiracies as far as that goes, too,
But that's what's in the news right now and that's
what we're going to report on too. So Charlie Kirk's
funeral is said to take place this Sunday at State
Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. There's been a lot of
video released about the transport of his casket on Air
Force two by his wife. She's also released some videos
(15:17):
of her, you know, like whispering to his dead body.
It's really sad to see.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, a lot of people are also think that the
video's fake. There's like to let you guys know that
aren't all up in this, Like, there's people that think
the whole entire thing was staged. I personally don't think that.
I don't think that his hands look fake in the
video because I've seen so many dead people and you
(15:44):
just have to understand that when your heart isn't beating anymore,
you just don't you don't look the same. And the
only thing to compare in that video is his wife
who's alive that has a live hand next to his
embalmed hand at a viewing that has makeup on it
as well. And when a person gets shot like that
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or has any kind of injury where they bleed out
their their skin and their organs, everything is very pale
in color as it is. And when they embalm a
person sometimes they mix different color dies in order to
give the skin a more lifelike color, because the person
would be very pale and gray. And on top of that,
(16:26):
he also has a certain kind of makeup or foundation
on his hands to just give it a more lifelike color.
And ann he's embombed, which makes the tissue kind of
shrink up and look have that waxy appearance too. So
anyone that really is familiar with what a person looks
like at a funeral viewing wouldn't think that that looks abnormal.
(16:47):
I mean, I personally think it's it's just weird. I mean,
I grew up Catholic. This is what we do in
our family. I don't like it, and I just can't.
I don't like it. I've never looked at anybody and
thought like, Okay, they look anywhere like that. They look
like they're just alive but sleeping. And maybe that's because
(17:09):
I'm overly critical because I know what dead people look like.
I don't know. I just think I just am not
a fan of it. It just it's just I don't know,
just for me personally. I mean, if you want to
do it, go ahead. It's I've been the plenty of
them with our family. It's just it's just weird. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't like it at all. I actually, well, we're
actually gonna have doctor Paul Kudenars on the show very soon.
In his book Memento, Maury actually goes into the history
of funerals and how we kind of transitioned into that
this like very sterile environment where we do things like this,
and I thought it was really cool to see, and
how he highlights how other cultures celebrate death.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Too, because guys, it's interesting, like you're going to if
we can figure this out and have the visuals along
with him, because he's just such an interesting person to
talk to and and like he's one of my great friends.
We talk all the time. When you hear some of
these stories about this recent trip that he went on
and see the pictures and the videos that go with it,
(18:11):
it's just like it's another world of outrageousness and I
can't wait for you guys to hear it.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
All right, So we have kind of like substories to
this overall one as well. So I guess since we
were talking so much about the video, let's talk about
this that this public school teacher has been suspended after
allegedly showing ten and eleven year old's videos of the
assassination and saying Charlie Kirk deserve to die and all
this other stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You know, at my kids' school, they talked about it,
and Mike and especially my middle one is in seventh grade,
and I think at this point it's like, you know,
she tells me all the time, she's the only kid
that doesn't have social media in her grade. So kids, like,
not just adults, were stumbling across The kids were stumbling
(18:59):
across it, which is which is terribly disturbing. But you know,
they went into school, and they had questions and they
talked about it in the class and I asked her
exactly what was said, and it seems like everything was
done in a very just educational, respectful way without showing
the video to the ones that hadn't seen it, because
(19:21):
Lilian didn't see it, right, And I like, I like that,
I don't. I don't really want her to see that.
I just don't. I don't think she needs to see it,
and I don't I don't understand why some teacher would
think that that was appropriate. It's almost just like people
are losing their fricking minds in a certain way, you
(19:41):
know what I mean, Like you're not thinking straight because
of this.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, it kind of reminds me of these stories I've heard.
I don't know if this is Ricky's story or somebody else,
but because I was really young when like nine to eleven, heaven, right,
but their stories out there where you know, the twin
towers get hit and then teachers roll the TV into
the classroom inners show kids the news live and you're like,
do you realize thousands of people are getting killed right
now and you're showing this to elementary school kids and
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they're not that dumb.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
They know where it's going.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm not sure that that's that that's I mean, it's possible,
but I don't really think that that's an accurate story
because I was twenty one years old when that happened,
and every place was like closing the schools, sending the
kids home. There was there was really not a lot
of that. I mean, I'm sure there were schools maybe
(20:30):
in the country that remained open, but I think everybody
was just very scared wanted to get their kids from school.
Schools closed early, my college closed.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Like my point in this is that like for me
as a child, that event was nine to eleven seeing
these videos as a child, right, I don't think adults
sometimes are thinking clearly about how much this can affect
a young child's mind. They know what's happening, like they
a ten year old is very aware they're seeing a
real person get murdered on video. They don't they don't
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always dissociate it with nothing like a horror movie or something.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Another thing is though, too, is that children are naturally curious.
Some adults are naturally curious too. And when you hear that, oh,
there's a video of this the first thing you want
to do is say, oh, okay, like I want to
see it. What's all the hype about? And I think
(21:30):
that affects some people more than others. There's a big
difference between reading about something and seeing what that actually
looks like, well exactly. And then on top of that,
you have at least three thousand people that experienced it
in real life and not to mention, Okay, they saw
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him get murdered right in front of their face, but
we also forget to mention that there were there was
an active gunshot that went off and nobody knew what
was going on at the time, and that is just
scary to live through an active shooter event in general.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, totally, and I agree with you, like I think
that Kit, I think the schools should tell children about
what happened. Like I remember again with nine to eleven,
it was kind of like, you know, I went home
from school and then my school just kind of acted
like it never happened, And you're like, Okay, you can't
just not talk about this major thing that happened, right,
(22:27):
because it's also scary not knowing what's going I.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Still don't talk about it at school.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
No, Well, when I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know what's funny, My kids came home from school
on nine to eleven and staid, they spent a period
talking about Charlie Kirk, And I said, would you talk
about did you talk about nine to eleven at all?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Never, didn't hear a drop of it all day.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well, I don't think you need to be like suicide
bombers got on a plane and murdered a bunch of people,
Like there's a way to phrase it to children where
you'd be like, this really bad thing happened, and you
know what I'm trying to say, there's a way to
tell children about what happened with it.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They don't tell children, they don't tell they don't tell
children anything. Well, I find they're talking about murder, So
like I guess, like.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well, I find it weird that they choose to talk
about this assassination with a political figure that's like, you
know it. I'm not trying to diminish it at all.
But it's not like the president got shot for example, right, Like,
so I I'm surprised it's it's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
No, it's it's totally a big deal.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But I'm saying it's actually a bigger deal because because
it's not the president, because obviously, like people, people have
something against the president. But this is the first time
that this has ever been done in a in a
way not I wouldn't say the first time, but like,
think about what a big deal it was when Martin
(23:46):
Luther King got shot, like he wasn't the president, and
like we have a day dedicated to celebrating.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, like what you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I just think when it's like this versus nine to eleven,
I find it odd they do. For used to talk
about nine to eleven, but they will talk about something
like this.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Well I was.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Thinking that too, but then I sat back and I
was like, this to the to the children growing up
right now, this is more relevant than nine to eleven,
you know what I mean. It's like if we're talking
about one day at school, talking about nine to eleven
versus Pearl Harbor Day, for example, like obviously nine to
(24:24):
eleven affected us more than Pearl Harbor Day did because
we weren't even alive when it happened. Kind Of like
that thing. I don't think it really has to be
a choose one over the other you know, but if
they only had so much time to talk about like
a current event, I feel like, I mean, there's still
victims of nine to eleven who are still alive and
dying of cancer. Well yeah, it's it's still relevant to
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everyone that lived through it and definitely a part of
history that we should know about and question and and
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
So but the last part of this story, So somebody
went on Amazon and thought it was a good idea
to upload a sweatshirt that mimicked the T shirt he
was wearing with blood spatter on it, and obviously Amazon
took it down right away.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, I mean, you're just gonna have you know, Uh,
this is kind of the same thing in a way
with with JFK getting assassinated, for example, like such a
public execution, you think, like, how did how did all
of the people in his family go on to see
(25:37):
all just think about the intense interest in JFK's assassination,
all the documentaries made, all the movies made, the all
of the trials, the frame by frame of him getting
his head blown off and showing Jackie going on the
back of the car and getting pieces of his brain up,
and like just that repeating all over over and over again.
(25:59):
How did avoid that?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Like you can't unless you know, unless you have somebody,
unless you don't go on your phone all day.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But I'm saying, but like let's say Jackie O for example,
before there were phones like that, Like how how did
she just avoid turning on the TV? Just say, you
just want to turn on the TV and watch a
movie and you see this all the time, it's on
the news, it's here, Like for her to avoid that,
did she just not look at TV for years? Did you,
(26:30):
like you think about that with her? And now you
think about the digital age and how are his friends
and family supposed to ever go on social media again?
And like the children growing up that will eventually be
able to see this, Like they're going to see it
whether they want to or not. That's what I'm trying
(26:52):
to say, Like, how do you avoid it unless you
just make it a vow that you're never going on
social media again.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm not saying this is like the correct but it's
just like part of being a public figure. Everything about
your life, your life and your death are highly publicized.
So I think it was a little easier for Jackie
Kennedy because it was just in the day and age
of television and radio. So while her life probably sucked
in some capacity, she was probably able to avoid it. Also,
(27:19):
let's not forget allegedly the Kennedy's treated her really poorly
after his death and kind of just for like you're
on your own now, So I'm sure it was like
a little easier to just kind of go away from
everything and not be fully immersed in it. I think,
as in today's world of technology, it's just something you
can't avoid. His wife might need to live the next
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couple of years and just truly not have access to
a cell phone and have some like an assistant be
like this is the text. And I'm saying that's ridiculous
and impractical, but like, if you want to avoid it,
that's really probably the only way unless you only go
on your phone to get text and calls, like a
flip phone, you only get calls and text. You can't
go on the internet or anything. Yeah, and how do
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you do that?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It's just a crazy It's just something that I think
of as a crazy thought to navigate through life in
that kind of a way, the way that things are
right now. But I imagine that that would just be like
extremely triggering all the time for I mean, not just
her obviously the most, but what about I mean, the
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guy's your age, like he has he has to have parents, right,
and like don't I don't know anything about that, but
it's just like there's a lot of other people involved
in it, and it's just I guess you're right though,
when you're a public figure, it's like there's just there's
more interest in your life and there's interest in your death.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I also think when you're a public figure, the people
closest to you, meaning like his wife might have I
hate this phrase, media trained, but they might have some
form of training where they can like dissociate from negative press.
I mean, he was very controversial. It's not like everybody
loved him, so I'm sure they're used to really negative press,
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and I'm sure with that you have some type of
training to dissociate from seeing things like that and live
your normal life.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
So maybe you can.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Channel into that part of your brain. But it's gonna
be impossible for her to avoid it.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, it's it's crazy, and the stuff that's just coming
out is whatever. We just like, we're not going to
talk about that here. But yeah, so let's talk about
let's talk about another horrible murder. Hold on, a horrible
gruesome murder on film.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Hold On.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I just also wanted to say, though, that that sweatshirt
reminded me about ten years ago. Urban Outfitters released a
vintage Kent State University sweatshirt on their website that they
said was vintage aged.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It was a red sweatshirt that just was aged. It
looked like it had blood spatter all over it. Does
nobody remember the tragedy that happened there in nineteen seventy
It was so insensive.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I remember about that shirt.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And they just tried to be like, oh, it was
like aged in the sun, and that's just the way
it looked. I'm sorry, but if anyw I have to
put a link to this picture or put it up
somewhere because it's unbelievable. It is not sunfaded. It directly
looks like blood spatter.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, it's you know what it just reminded me of too,
which is this is kind of similar. But do you
remember after the Boston Marathon bombing that they did this
like really sexy photo shoot of one of the bombers
on the cover of the magazine and everybody was like,
what what's happening right now?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, so weird it is.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's really weird when when people are like trying to
push a certain edge, you're just kind of like, no, no, yeah, exactly,
all right, So let's let's get into this other group, dude.
This week, really in one calendar week, you had the
girl we talked about last week that are no, oh,
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that that's a whole different one. I wasn't even talking
about her. I was talking about the video on the train.
I reah, yeah she was. She was stabbed in the neck,
like a video that went viral. And then it's like
Charlie Kirk video gone viral. This other one that we're
going to talk about now was on the internet at
some point because someone grabbed it for me and it's
(31:13):
in the Grossroom dot com if you want to see it.
But like it's really really disturbing, and you're just like,
social media can't keep up with this.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
No, they can't.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So in this case out of motel in Dallas, this
guy and his coworker were cleaning a room. The manager
comes by and tells them not to use a broken
washing machine. So, according to the coworker. The man got
angry because the manager was talking to her to translate
the conversation to the man instead of talking to him directly,
so he proceeds to leave the room, produce a machete,
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and start stabbing the manager repeatedly before eventually cutting his
head off over communication over a broken washing machine.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Wait, the worst part of this story is that I mean,
I guess that that's bad. But while he was getting stabbed,
he ran across the parking lot to the office and
was screaming for his wife and his son who were
in the office, who came out and tried to intervene
and get in between them, and they weren't able to
(32:14):
get the guy to stop stabbing her husband and his father,
and he cut off the guy's head in front of
his wife and his son.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And then proceeded to kick it in the parking lot
and then picked it up and threw it in a dumpster.
So police get there, this guy is still holding the
MACHETI bloods all over his shirt, in his body. Can
you imagine rolling up on the scene as law enforcement?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
So that's did you see the video in the grocery, Maria,
I listen, let me tell I know that it's not
your thing, but listen, the way that they write these
stories is just not it's just not accurate like we
have it on film. So this is something that I
actually wanted to bring up. This is all caught on film.
The guy cuts his head off and he puts it
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and kill He kicks it like a literal soccer ball
across the parking lot. It's so disturbing. He picks the
head up and it's bloody and dripping, and then brings
it to this dumpster. As he's coming back from the dumpster,
still knife in hand, the ambulance shows up. Not the police,
there's just ambulance, right, And the ambulance workers get out
(33:23):
of the car, out of the bus, and they you know,
they're they're like, obviously there's nothing they could do at
this point. Right. I specifically asked this to Gabe because
I said, what is the protocol? Because this could this
happened in Dallas, this could have happened where Gabe works too, Right,
what's the protocol if you show up in an ambulance
(33:43):
or a firetruck and there's no cops on the scene
with a gun and you come out to report to
a call, and there's a man that has just carried
a head into a dumpster and has a knife in
his hand. And Gabe was just like, I would stay
in the fire truck. That's what he said to me.
In this video, you see them get out of the ambulance.
(34:04):
Now I'm sure the cops are right behind them. Whatever. Listen,
if I just witnessed a guy cut off someone's head
with a machete, I sure as how I'm not going
out of the of the ambulance to see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Uh No, especially like a police officer. I understand, because
you have a gun or like a stunt gun or something,
or a batad right, Like I wouldn't deal with a batond.
Well that's a gun situation only excusively you have, you
have something to protect you.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
But the ambulance they what do they have? Serious?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Nothing?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And like that, I was shocked that they got out
and the ambulance is their only weapon if you want
to like flower into the ribe. Yeah, like I just
would have been like, oh, hell no, I am not
going out there and seeing what's going on here. I
mean listen, like I understand that they likely were not
because when they got the call. It was like somebody's
getting attacked and there might have even been possibly with
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a knife. The head gutting off happened seconds before they
actually pulled into the parking lot, and I'm sure they
sure as hell, we're not expecting that. And you see
that and you're like, okay, I just witnessed this thing.
Get c I mean, would you even think that it
was a human head if you arrived at that scene
and saw that and so somebody kicked something, your mind
(35:19):
would not allow that to happen.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, it's like in all the true crime documentaries when
people are like, I thought this dead person was a
mannequin in the woods, right, Like your brain just cannot
go there.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, So like they pull up and see they walk
to a guy with a bloody, dripping knife kicking ahead
like a soccer ball and putting it in the trash.
Like you know, they just weren't they weren't like thinking, right, like,
because when you're an EMS person, your first thing is like,
I got to get to the emergency and save a
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person's life. But like, clearly that guy is a tour
soo now and like there's no saving that person's life.
But at the same time, they didn't know if there was.
They're victims and things like that. Like I understand that,
but like they gotta protect themselves. And like you know
when you're like in a bad situation and you're just
driving and you're like, let me just lock my door,
(36:11):
not to all attention to it, but like I don't
want this crazy person coming in my car. It's the
same kind of a thing.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Are you ever Like in a parking lot there's a
crazy person walking around and you make icons and then
you lock the door, but it makes the loud.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
That's what separate.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, that's why, Oh my god, I gotta drive like.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, but again, this is why you gotta get tanted windows, Maria.
Nobody will see you do it.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Oh my god.
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Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, So we had a lot of talk about this week, guys,
and we have a lot of good stories for the
rest of the episodes too, and interview with Paul. It's
going to be very lively on mother nos death this week.
So this is one that's been circulating the internet too,
which is a nice distraction from all of the death
and dismemberment we've been seeing.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
So Lily Collins, who is the daughter of Phil Collins,
star of Emily and Paris, She's been out and about
in New York City over the weekend because it's fashion week.
So the Papa Nanci took pictures of her going to
the Calvin Klein show over the weekend and the photos
have just absolutely gone viral because of how thin her
waist is I mean again, this is gonna come across
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his body shaming to some people. I when I first
saw these pictures, they look so bizarre. I thought they
were AI.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
All right, So this is my question because I and
this is probably where they're going with this, because I
didn't ever hear of this girl. This show, I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Know, pretty popular show. You don't watch television, I know.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I don't, but Phil Collins, I know Phil Collins, and
I didn't know that this was his daughter. But anyway,
I digressed, like now everybody's talking about it. So now
everybody knows for sure that she's working on this new
project and this and that, and I guess part of
the thing is is that this thing that she's working
(39:06):
on or did work on, was a story about a
person that was battling with anarexia.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Correct, well, that was like ten years ago, and this
story is season five. She's been in the press enough.
I don't think this was a planted story, if that's
what you're getting it, all right.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm just curious because like there was all these interviews
done with her that basically she felt she was doing
this role covering a person that had anorexia when she
was dealing with an eating disorder herself, right, So like,
is that a good idea? Let's talk about that first.
(39:44):
A person that has had a history of an eating
disorder since they were a teenager, is it good for
them to play a role of a person that has
an eating disorder? I personally would say, no, what do
you think?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I don't think so if it's if you're not fully
recovered and it's going to set you off. If you have,
you know, worked really hard to be in recovery and
you think you can approach it from a personal perspective
and show the best light, yes, but I think if
you're still teetering on the edge of being set off
and going back to your old ways, then no, I
don't think it's a good idea. Well, specifically, I don't
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necessarily I'm against her playing the role per se.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
But one thing that really bothered me about it was
that she said that she had to lose a significant
amount of weight in order to play this character.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Well, that's that's problematic.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
So if it's really a problem, and like, they shouldn't
even have approached to her or asked her and even
put her in that position, which clearly like listen, I'm
not doing a physical exam on her, but at this
point I don't think I have to. She's still battling
with it, right. I don't know if you guys have
(40:54):
seen this photo, but she's wearing a like a what
do you call that? A bear mid drift.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It's too like an old lady.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
It's a real old day term.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
She's wearing like a crop top and a skirt in
her whole entire torsoes okay, basically.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, And and she looks skeletal to the point where
every single person that is looking just even her posture
is very bizarre. And so this is why I was
questioning if this was a publicity stunt, because we know
that people with annarexia, when they look in the mirror,
they're not seeing what everybody else is seeing. It's a dysmorphia.
(41:33):
They're not they're not seeing that they look thin enough. Right.
Everybody else on her team is though her, her stylist,
the person that made the dress, her, anybody that works
near her, the girl doing her makeup, the girl doing
her hair, the guy whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
But everybody that worked for Matthew Perry knew he was
an ad I. They kept giving him the tools to
fuel the addictions.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
I'm saying, though, like someone like I would think that's
someone on her team would be like, this is not
a good look. But the only reason that it that
it would be pushed out there is because they want
people to be talking about it.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I don't think that's true necessarily, Like you're saying, if
she doesn't see the dysmorphia, nobody in her camp is
gonna call it out because they don't want to lose
their job or lose their friendship with her. And if
this is truly a paparazzi picture on the street that
got released, I mean it's not the picture she posted
on her Instagram. I would say that was more planted.
She posted other pictures of this look on her Instagram,
(42:33):
but not these ones. In partition, she looks like viral
emaciated like that she does, which is I at first
thought these pictures were photoshopped or AI to some capability,
because you're like, there's no way that a human has
organs in their body that are that thin. It's it's really,
it's it's actually really it's really terrible.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And like I I'm not saying like it looks on
a chat, I don't care about that. I'm just saying
that for people that are also dealing with with anorexia,
that could be set people off as well. It's just
not it's not really, it's just a very unusual mental
(43:12):
illness like that that it has an effect on other
people as well, not just yourself. And well, I think
it's sad to see. I think it's a lot what
you say with obesity too. It's not about the way
it looks per se. It's about worrying about the person's
state of their health. So what's been what's been the
(43:33):
general I mean, I just read this one article that
had a couple comments, but what's the general comments about
her appearance? I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I mean, on that Instagram post when I looked this morning,
it was a mixture of wow, you look amazing, mixed
with I hope you get the help you need. And
I don't know if her team had gone through. I mean,
the pictures had been up a couple of days. I
don't know if her team had gone through and wiped
a bunch of them out, But there were comments on
there addressing it.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, It's just interesting to me because, like obviously the
most famous actress or singer and actress. I guess you
would say Karen Carpenter, right, who was like severely anorexic,
going down to seventy nine seventy nine pounds at some
point in her life and visibly on TV that everybody
(44:19):
that she would get on TV and people would be like,
like it, like disturbed by her appearents, you know what
I mean. But like back then, it was like nobody
was talking about it like that, and now it's like
we're pretty open and talking about it. And I feel
like we should because there's lots of people that are
suffering with it, and maybe she's trying to bring awareness
(44:40):
to it. I don't. I don't know, Like I.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Think it's shocking to see a person that thinn in general,
but also because she's been open about having an eating
disorder in the past, that's why it's more front and center.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, And I guess like, if she's not doing well
right now and she had a premiere to go to
and stuff, that's that's one thing. But I'm almost like
you're accentuating it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
It's think about this, if Calvin Klein was like, I'm
gonna dress you to come to my runway show where
you're going to tell him, no, I'm not wearing that piece.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
You're gonna take whatever the fuck he gives you.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Like he doesn't know what your whole body looks like underneath,
so like think about that.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
But like she's a somebody, right, she just get whatever
she wants.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, it doesn't matter though, because you still, like you
get these special opportunities. You might not want to be rude.
You don't know what happened that landed her in that outfit. Also,
like you said, she might look at herself and not
think anything looks amiss.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, I mean, I just think there should be someone
on your team that's like, you know how like yeah,
and then if you're wearing something and then you're fired,
and then I replacing another person that's like, wow, you
look amazing. Okay, have you, like, have you ever dealt
with celebrities like this is how they offerate Phil Collins
would never raise a child that that was that Brady,
(45:57):
It just wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Well, okay, have you also ever met the child of
the celebrity Because I've worked for a couple and they're
pretty terrible people and so okay, all right, let's talk
about why so many accidental pregnancies happen in women's forties.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Listen, when I was reading this, this is like this
is this is like a real problem. I'll tell you why.
Like I feel like, all right, let me tell you
about my appointment that I went to really quick today.
So I went to a special doctor that specializes in
hormones for women that are my age, that are like
perimenopausal and stuff. And for the past couple of years,
(46:36):
like shit's been changing for me, right, And I'm like, oh,
I've like barely bled and this and that, and like
I just could tell like I'm having all the symptoms
of going through menopause and all this stuff. So I'm
I'm thinking, like I'm kind of out of the woods
at that part of my life at this point. Well,
I just get go and had all the hormones tested
(46:56):
and stuff, and she's just like, yeah, like we're gonna
put you on these hormones, but like they can have
side effects of the fetus, and your hormones are showing
that like you very well could still get pregnant. And
I'm forty six, and I'm like, what, like, no, God,
that would be awful. It would be my worst nightmare
come true. But like I it happens, right, Like people
(47:18):
have babies at this age all the time, and and
but that's what happens, because like in my mind for
the past couple of years, I'm kind of like, yeah,
I'm done with that, but blood work today confirmed I'm
not done with that.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
All right, Well, so are you shedding that part of
your body off?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
No, I'm just gonna do what they say and not not.
I don't want to. I don't want this to happen.
But but I could see how lots of different women
that are my age, and I know lots of you
are listening that are my age, that you're kind of like,
all right, I'm starting to get into like my kids
are getting older and in my weird life case, I'm
gonna be a grandmam at some point, like I'm moving
(47:58):
into the next phase of my life about like retirement
accounts and things like that.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
You don't try to have babies at the same.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Time like to other people, although that would definitely ensure
that we would get a TV show like a hundred percent,
which no, thanks. Maybe if I just give you the
kid after I have it, then that would be a
considering you.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Could be like one of those grandmas that carries the baby.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
You know, did you ever see those stories?
Speaker 2 (48:26):
It'd be like fifty five year old grandmother carried twins, and.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
I would do that for you, except my my near
like death experiences with childbirth. It's just like, I can't
do that to my kids right now. But my little
kids anyway, Well, if I was like you know how
mo mom was, like, I could be prepped all the
time and whip out babies and like squawks to a
(48:50):
tree and give birth. Like if I was that kind
of woman, I'd be like, yeah, I'll do it. Why not?
But you know, it's just it's not in the cards
for me. But anyway, we're not going to be pregnant
at the same time. Like, no, that's weird. So wait
then my like my little baby would be like your
baby's aunt. That's just it's too weird.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I think I just saw a story that a mother
and her daughter are impregnated by the same man, and
they're like, cool, why is it mother knows death?
Speaker 4 (49:22):
No, I think it's old.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
But I feel like I just saw like an update.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Did it? Did we not cover it?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
We might have I don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
It was an older story. Maybe I just saw it
on TikTok. I need to confirm this, all right, this
might be a story next week.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
You just like, I think this is reportable news.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
No, I feel like I saw it on social media
or something. We like to wait till there's news stories
because people make shit up. So like, I don't know,
We're stay stay tuned. We're gonna look into this. But
remember there was like an episode of Golden Girls where
blance thought she was pregnant when she was just going
through menopause.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, it's no, it's a thing, and it's it's scary
actually because some of the symptoms that you can get.
You know, I sat down with this nurse practitioner today
for a while, like a solid hour, and she told
me about this level is gonna make your bibs tender
and this and that. She went back and forth, and
I was like, oh shit, like I don't I kind
(50:20):
of like don't have much of an interest in all
the hormone stuff. So I learned a lot today.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
What ya mental state? How is that gonna affected?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
I'm going to be more awesome? Actually, well, actually I
just got some pellets inserted in my butt cheeks. So
whatever personality comes out, you're gonna be stuck with for
a while until it fades away.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Wait, I still don't understand, so, like, what did they do?
They made an what are the pellets?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
It's I guess it's a continuous release of medication that's subcutaneous,
that is absorbing in your skin rather than having to
do the gel every day. Weird, Yeah, it's I mean, like,
I made this appointment seriously in the in may or June.
I was so hyped to go because like, I really
(51:08):
just don't feel good, and I was also telling the
recept that whole place is so so awesome. I was
telling the receptionist like I've been feeling not good for
almost two and a half, for three years now, and
I was trying to do it old school, like my
mom never took hormones, my grandmom never took hormones. Everybody
(51:31):
like since the beginning of time never did, and all
this stuff. And then I was like, you know what,
like why, Like finally I was like, why am I
making myself suffer? Why?
Speaker 4 (51:40):
Since here use it?
Speaker 3 (51:42):
It's here and I am using it, So I don't know,
because like obviously it's gonna take some while for it
to kick in, but I'll keep you guys updated. But
some of our friends I won't name any names because
I don't want to have a semi hip hop violation
with some of our friends at crime con. But if
you're listening, you know who you are are doing the
pellets and said it's life changing. So I'm looking forward
(52:05):
to that.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
I'm looking forward to it for you everybody in there.
Like I told Gabe.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
I told Gabe and he's like, well, what's He's like,
what's it do? And I was like, it's going to
solve all of my life problems.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Maybe then Gabe will stop being like she's yelled at
me four times this morning.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Really he deserves it sometimes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
A doctor working at a hospital in India has been
arrested after it was discovered he was telling women the
sex of their babies.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Did they I couldn't figure out what this story was like,
Like he's getting arrested from the hospital because is that
something that they're not supposed to do in that culture
or no?
Speaker 4 (52:49):
So in India and China, it's banned.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
It's illegal to do that because because people like.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Get abortions and stuff if they're not having the sex
that I want to because of that.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
So I found an article from NBC from two thousand
and six talking about the first physician that had been
jailed due to this. It was put in place in
nineteen ninety four, this law. So they said it was
due to a quote epidemic of parents aborting female fetuses.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yeah. I actually my friend ye is from China. She
was one of RPA students and then she ended up
being one of my friends, and I remember when we
were working together, she told me all about that and
I just was like, wait, what there was like something
about that was like a big thing that was going
on over there.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, So in nineteen ninety four the law went into effect.
I believe it definitely in India. I believe in China
went to effect at the same time. And yeah, you're
not allowed to know the gender of your baby. I
guess until you give birth.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
That's that's like the dumbest shit I ever heard.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
Yeah, it just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Like I understand that some that like the is is more, you.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Know, such a miracle that we should just want any baby,
But like if you're just a realistic person, like you
know that that like you need both for sure, and really.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
You just need women to like get shit done, right, Like,
do you ever think about that? Like all of the
great men in history, You're just like, yeah, if they
didn't have a wife, guess what, Like you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Exactly, So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
I follow this girl on TikTok that just got pregnant
through IVF and at her like anatomy scan, they just
found out that her baby's missing, like one of her hands,
it just stopped growing. And all these people in the
comments were like, you should get an abortion over.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
A missing hand.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm like, who gives a shit, It's a healthy baby, know,
people are.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
This is why, Like maybe it's not a good idea
to share your information even though I just shared mine.
Someone's gonna be like in the comments, I hope you
start growing chin hair, Nicole, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Listen, we already have mustaches, so we know how to
deal with it.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, okay, Like try me. That's not the worst thing.
Now if I if I start getting zets, that that
might throw me over the edge. But besides that or
chest hair, I've never had to deal with that either.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
I've had back hair and arm hair and mustache hair
and all the hair my whole life doing the glove. Yeah,
I'll just go to doctor Dimitri and be like, hey,
you gotta you gotta do some laser on me anyway. Yeah, Like,
if you're going through all the things with IVF and stuff,
it's just like you're not You're not gonna jump to
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the A word very quickly. And that certainly is like
a hand is the dumbest shit ever. Who the fuck
will get an abortion over your baby missing a hand?
It's like the dumbest shit I've ever heard. If the
baby is healthy, who cares? Like There's just there's so
many technological advancements today that this is not even like
a problem anymore.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
So this this story got me thinking about about like
gender reveals and stuff, and what about in the hospital,
for example, if a family doesn't want to know and
somehow like the the the ultrasound technician like says it
by accident or something like, could they I mean they're
(56:22):
not gonna really do. I know, they're definitely not gonna
arrest anybody, but could they get Like I think it's
like demanded at work.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
I think it's a dick thing.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
To do.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
But I don't think you're gonna Yeah, you might get
like a slap on the wrist, but what are they
gonna do? Sometimes people say it by accident.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
Yeah, it's just like that's like really important to some people.
I don't know why, because it's just like it's it's
it's gonna be one or the other. Like what's the
I don't know what's the big like drama about?
Speaker 2 (56:48):
All right. Last story, a woman is claiming that she
was shopping at Goodwill ended up buying a coat. When
she got home, she started going through it and then
found a suicide note in the pocket. So I guess
the question is, what can you read the note? Yeah,
hold on, I have it on my phone, all right.
It says, Valerie, you are my best friend in the
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whole entire world. This is one hundred percent not your fault.
I couldn't be saved after everything that happened with Aaron
and the video, I just couldn't do this anymore. But
I don't want that to be the only thing you
remember now that I'm gone. I want you to remember
our trips to Starbucks, everything we did after homecoming, and
our time spent as neighbors. You are basically a sister
(57:31):
to me. Please take care of yourself. I also want
you to quit what you're doing, you know what I'm
talking about, and take care of your body. Go out
and have fun. You deserve it. Goodbye, Emily.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
That's really sad.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
It is really sad. I mean, I guess this person
is asking for advice on what to do with it,
whether to keep it or return it. Some people are
saying call the police, Like what are you gonna what
are you.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Supposed to do to call the police?
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Yeah, like that that's so dumb, Like what do you
the thing is that you're you're really I mean, I
guess there could ever be a situation that you could
potentially get something at a thrift store that would be
part of a crime, and then they would be able
to like put the resources to trace back where it
came from, because Goodwill, for example, will have like the
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bins outside, but they also have drop offs from different areas,
and for a forensic investigation that might be worth it.
But for this it's like, how are you, like, what
police department are you even gonna call? I drop my
stuff off in a town three towns over? Like everybody
does that?
Speaker 2 (58:36):
You call the cops.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
They are gonna be like, thanks, what am I gonna
do with this?
Speaker 2 (58:39):
I mean, I guess either if this gets picked up enough,
people are gonna know two people with those names that
it happened to, right, Yeah, the person wrote the note
but never went through with it.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
So that's what I was thinking too. I was like,
there is a possibility that someone wrote it and had
it in their coat pocket and just never went through
with it.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Honestly, like a big their technique is writing letters knowing
that you're never gonna send them. I'm not saying that's
what happened in this scenario. I'm just saying it is
a therapy technique used for people to get their words
out without having like a lot of conflict. So yeah,
and it's interesting too because if your friend really did
kill themselves, like would you would.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
You want to keep that? I don't know, no, Like,
it's it's just really it's just really an incredibly sad story.
But if you did want to keep it, I guess
it would be really sad that you lost something like that.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
But at the same time, the person buying the jacket,
I don't think they should keep it. I feel like
it's like bad energy, Like what are you gonna do
with it? Hold on to it and keep looking at it.
It's like possibly the end of somebody's life.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
I mean I would keep it.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Well, you're a different breed of person, so.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
I just I just think it's it's just like it's
kind of interesting. It's just interesting and and of course,
like that kind of shit drives me nuts because I'm like,
what happened on the videotape? I want to what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Let's move on to Questions of the Week. Every Friday
at that Mother nos Death Instagram account, you guys have
head over to our story and ask whatever you want first.
With all you've seen, do you find yourself prone to
depression or losing faith in humanity?
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I don't think that. I that yeah, I guess sometimes.
I mean just like last week was a good example.
There's just like a lot of things that happen that
you're kind of like even with the girl on the train,
you're just kind of like, okay, cool, So now you
just have to be like sitting there and like hanging
out and some like crazy person's going to stab you
in the throat, like the the online like vitriol towards
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one another, just like, yeah, I mean, but I feel
like I'm having the same experience as every human. Yes,
Like it's not. I mean, a lot of this stuff
that I that I've seen throughout my career is just
stuff that's not really preventable. Cancers and kids and things
like that, disease. It is certain things that are just
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natural that that's all that you really have control over yourself.
Is cigarettes, smoking, drinking, alcohol, smoking weed, all that stuff.
If you control all that yourself, then I feel like
you have a higher probability of living a healthy, successful life.
But other than that, like a lot of it's out
of your control.
Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
All right too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Will a casket be open if an autopsy is performed?
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Yes, good question.
Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
We do the incisions in such a way that they
can be hidden. So let's talk about Charlie Kirk for example.
He definitely had an autopsy and he definitely had a
viewing from what we could see from the videos. So
we we'll just use him as an example just because
he's uh in the news this week. So when they
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do the internal exam, they will do the y incision,
And especially in men, it's just very easy to hide
because most men are bury in a suit when they
have a viewing like that, so that incision will be
hidden under the clothes. They will also sew up and
really fix that wound in his neck, which it may
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be partially visible where the collar hits the neck where
the tie is, so there might obviously he was shot
while he was alive, so there might be like a
large area of hemorrhage in that area, like or bruising
because of that wound, whatever caused it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
So the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Funeral directors can work miracles and can like spackle it
basically with whatever they're using their fill the hole up
and put makeup on it and make it look like
it's not even there, and then taking the brain out
as well, because they'll also do that on Charlie Kirk.
So the incision goes ear to ear on the crown
of the head. So if you could see, if your
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guys are watching the YouTube, where my headphones are, we
would do it like a little bit further right about
there actually where the headphones are, but the incision will
go behind the ear, and then we are able to
peel the face over and then peel the scout back
and take out the brain, put the skull cap back
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on and sew it up. And so for someone like
Charlie Kirk, especially that has a full head of hair,
you would that incision will be completely hidden by his hair.
But even if you're bald, they're able to do. You know,
they have their they do their magic the funeral directors,
and they're able to glue the incision closed and fix it.
And then they also put the head on a pillow
(01:03:36):
so you won't be able to see it. So they're anybody.
Like every single autopsy I've done, I've always done it
with the respect that that person might want a viewings,
because sometimes people change their mind, so just always do
it for a viewing and then they'll never be a problem.
Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Three What did you want to eat after delivering your babies?
This is from one of our pregnant listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Listen, I'm a terrible I'm a terrible uh or was
a terrible pregnant person to take advice from, because and
I tell this to Maria all the time, Like, throughout
my career, I've done so many dissections on placentas, Like
every PA will say that we've touched thousands of plazennas
in our career. And so many of them at a
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history of like meth abuse, heroin abuse, this, this, this, this,
like babies are really getting like treated like crap and
still coming out alive and okay in the wounds sometimes.
So for me, I was never like I can't eat sushi,
I can't eat lunch meat like I did all of it.
(01:04:44):
Like I didn't smoke crack or the like smoke weed
or anything like that. But like I was never like
I'm not gonna eat this. I'm not gonna eat a
soft cheese like no f that I need to eat
soft cheese like every three days.
Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
But what were you craving like after you gave bird.
Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Life to be alive? I just wanted to be alive.
I didn't really care about eating. I'm sorry, I didn't really.
I can't think of like like Gabe didn't run out
and get me take out. Whatever I ate was what
came at the hospital. So it wasn't like I don't know,
I just I kind of I don't. I don't really know.
(01:05:21):
I did when I was pregnant with you, I craved
parogi's and ate them all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Though Lilian Big Max, Lillian.
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Yeah, I ate Big Max. I ate like such shit.
With Lilian, like I was, I don't know why, Like
I just was so hungry all the time. It was terrible,
to the point where they made me see a nutritionist.
They were like, we think you need to see a
nutritionist because you're gaining so much weight. And I was like,
I eat like three donuts every day. That's why I'm
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gaining weight. Like I don't need anybody to tell me.
It's just like I can't stop.
Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
What did you crave a little?
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I ever, I want all the goodies? Well with with Luberd,
I was a little bit better because I was scared
that I was going to gain too much weight with her,
so I was like a little bit better with her.
But I don't think I really craved anything odd.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
So you scaled it back to two doughnuts.
Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Well, I think because when I had you, I was
a teenager, so obviously, like teenagers could eat whatever they
want and they don't gain any weight like I. I
probably gained like twenty pounds with you, if that like
the normal amount you're supposed to gain when you're pregnant.
And then with Lillian, it was like I guess I
kind of had the same thing, like and it was
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I was older, and it was it was bad. I
gained like eighty pounds with her. It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
All right, guys, we have a couple events coming up.
We have a very busy October. So on October the third,
we have the Wildlife CSI at Lake Tobias Wildlife Park
that is hosted by Cheryl McCollum.
Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
I think, oh, you know what I'm supposed to tell everybody,
so if you buy so so, I just did a
post in the grosser room about this. Actually, So this
event is in Halifax, Paes, which is two hours from Baltimore,
two hours from Philadelphia, an hour from Lancaster, and about
(01:07:15):
a half hour from Harrisburg. Right, So if you guys
live in any of that like surrounding area, it'll be
a nice drive. But it's going to be really cool
because there's going to be some kind of animal encounter,
which sounds really cool. We're going to the one that's
on October yea at Friday at five o'clock. So there's
(01:07:37):
four different ones that you could choose from. But Cheryl said,
if you guys get a ticket, you could bring a
friend for free.
Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
So it's a good deal. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
A good deal actually, So we're bringing momm so if
you guys want to meet momm it's the first time
she's ever done anything with us. And we're not even
doing the event. We're just going as everyone because we
want to learn and we also want to hang out
with you because she's you know, she's from Atlanta and
she's just coming in. She's coming within our hoods, so
(01:08:05):
we got to go support her. But yeah, she is
a good time and Wildlife CSI just sounds like such
a cool thing because you just never really think about it.
But the little bit that I've learned from it's it's
super It's super interesting about you know, people are always
trying to poach animals and steal animals and illegally raise
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animals and stuff, and there's just like this whole entire
field of forensics just dedicated to animals. It's so cool,
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
So then the next weekend, I'm very happy to be
joining the Keeping Hope Alive Family, who is an awesome
nonprofit that helps people going through IVF. So that Sunday,
October twelfth, they're doing their annual golf Classic in Mount Lawreld,
New Jersey, So I'll be volunteering there there.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
And check out check out the Mother Knows Death golf Court,
the golf cart.
Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Oh my god, it's gonna be so funny.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
But there's opportunities to volunteer, sponsor donate. It's a really
amazing organization, so everybody should check that out. And then lastly,
we have the Dark Side New Jersey event in Edison
on October eighteenth. So basically we're jamm packed every weekend
in October.
Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Yeah, we are. But I'm looking forward to that too.
So we're gonna be doing our podcast live there, so
that should be really fun, and I'm looking forward to
going shopping there really. Yeah, that's like my decor, so
I'll be like I need to bring all those bags
that I get from Wagmans to extra bags and like
stock them up with some stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Ricky was making some joke that I've never gone in
the store that I didn't like, meaning that I buy
something anywhere I go, I could always find something.
Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
So it's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I'm like that too, Like you're you're worst though. You
want to go in like the worst stores and just
be like I could find something here, this is cute,
and you're kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Like, no, you know, the levels is like to paperweight
Maria Mo. Mom's at the top with being the worst
and the deities below her and then encourage each other,
which is really problematic, and then I'm below them and
then you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
So momm just turned sixty nine on was on Sunday,
that was her actual birthday, Okay, so we hung out
with her on Sunday, like our whole family hung out.
And so she's sixty nine year old female. So I
want you guys that are listening to have a parent
that's that's a mother, specifically a mother that's that age,
(01:10:26):
Like what is the deal with them? And like Timu
and shopping because it's a thing, and it's not just
my mom, it's like every woman that's that age.
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It's like the dopamine of buying things, but it's cheap,
so you can keep buying things.
Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
But it's all shit.
Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
The best thing, let me tell you, guys, the best
thing that my mom bought on Timu, she bought skiing polls.
This is a woman that's fair act. Have we are
you sure?
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Well let's talk about it again because it's worth it.
This is a woman that barely goes outside should walk
from the house to the car. She's not an outdoors person.
She's never been skiing, she's never been anywhere recreationally where
there's been any kind of snow. She bought them to
like as walking sticks, like let's just leave it there.
Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
She returned them, so she probably paid more to ship
them back than they cost.
Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
That's the thing with those places, it's like not even
worth it. Oh yeah, I just want to know, like
what went like, what what was like the advertisement that
was targeted to her to she was like, Yeah, that's
a good idea. Let me do that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
You mean you're not blown away by the Timmouse plays
all the time on TV?
Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I don't know. I have no idea what you're talking about.
They have like the wor steams hung that's like a
commercial for them or something. Well, they like were a
big sponsored during the Super Bowl, remember, so they kept
playing it over and over and over again. Oh God?
Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
And does those slots are pricey? So you know they're
making money off all these booms.
Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Are they buying them?
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Are they geared towards like like do you shop there?
Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
No? I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I bought so even on Sheen, I only bought one thing. Ever,
on Sheen and it was these purses that looked like
disco balls I bought for the girls of my wedding
and they literally had to return them like four times
because they kept sending me broken ones. And I'm like,
I don't understand, what's.
Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
The problem is, Yeah, And I mean the girls have
we ordered a couple of years ago stuff from Sheen,
and like so much of it was so slutty, honestly,
Like I was like, we're not doing this anymore. Like
they've moved on to like the worst store, the second
worst store ever in the mall, so like, which is
triple the price. But okay, whatever, at least it's more covered,
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I should say.
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, of course,
we're going to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination and
all the latest information on that. We're going to get
into why some fans are worried about actress Lily Collins,
a gruesome beheading caught on film in Dallas, why so
many women in their forties are getting pregnant by accident,
(00:43):
a physician that was arrested for revealing the gender of
a fetus, and a suicide note found at Goodwill. All
that and more followed by your questions. On today's episode,
let's get started with definitely the most talked about case
of the week for sure, if not years.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I mean, unless you're living under a rock, you've
had to have seen this case. I don't know if
everybody's seen the video per se, but definitely everybody should
know about the assassination of political activist Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
He was killed last Wednesday at a rally at Utah
Valley University. In the middle of his talk. These gunshots
rang out and then blood started spraying from his neck.
And everybody was screaming and ducking. All these crazy videos
came out of the incident because people are I guess,
live streaming the talk and just happened to catch it
on film. And it's just so scary to see these
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videos plastered all over the internet.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, it's it really is the most unusual death that
we've talked about, especially with a celebrity at least anyway.
I would almost say since the JFK assassination that was
also caught on film, but now it's even just in
the digital age, right, it's just so much different because
(01:59):
not only was is it essentially live live streamed, right,
it was multiple people, like you said, from all different angles.
And now we have the ability on each individual phone
to go by the film step by step and try
to figure out for ourselves what happened, because we've obviously
(02:21):
with the JFK assassination, there was just so many controvers
conspiracy theories, which a lot of them ended up being true.
So there's a lot of trust issues there. So now
we're like, we don't necessarily trust what you're telling us,
so we're going to try to figure it out ourselves
kind of thing. And I guess you know, the JFK
incident was caught on the zab Bruder film, which they
(02:43):
went by frame by frame and presented the story to us.
But now we're able to do that ourselves. In a way,
it's just such it's such a different thing that we've
never experienced before.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, and I've been seeing a lot of people compare
this to the Luigi Mangioni case, and and that is
just so different. I mean that video ended up being released,
but it wasn't being live streamed like in this case.
This was probably uploaded seconds after it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, and the Luigi Mangioni case too, was a smaller
ammunition and didn't didn't leave you horrified the way this
one was in clear daylight with very high definition film,
being able to really see a person dying like that
in front of you. I do see the comparison though,
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for sure, because it's just I think that we talked
about this with Luigi Banngioni. It's like when you start
making a person really a hero for killing someone that
you don't agree with, then there's going to be other
situations that follow, and sure enough that we're here, So.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I mean, it's just a weird thing to see.
And even in the Luigi videos, like you see him
approach Brian Thompson and go up to him and put
the gun and then you see Brian Thompson fall to
the ground right like you're not seeing the blood actively
squirting out of his body.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's horrific.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, it was. I mean, it's it's funny because I
have I literally have a website called the Gross Room
where all we do is look at pictures and videos
that are gruesome. And you know Jen that works with us.
She sends us videos and news stories all the time.
And we have this ongoing joke because she always sends
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us like a cool news story and I'll write her
back and say, we have that on the list already.
So she's always just like, God, I never could give
you one that you didn't hear of. And I was
going to pick up my kids from school and she
texted me a video and I just opened it. I
don't she text me videos all the time that are
just like funny stuff or whatever. And I opened it
(04:50):
and I was like, oh my god, like it took
my breath away. I was like, oh my God, is
that real? And and I just I couldn't really believe
that that was that that happened, and that was just
spreading around online like that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean, you don't often see videos of people
just getting like executed like that in front of a
giant crowd of people.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It was insane to watch one thing.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
That was really interesting to me too, because obviously, like
I do this for a living, so anytime someone sends
me a video like that, I'm always like, I'm going
to screen record it really fast because that's going to
get off the Internet in two seconds, just because those
videos typically do. And in this case, it's like regular
everyday people were sitting there saying that it was coming
(05:37):
across their feed, like they were looking at flowers and
puppies and things like that, and then this just came
into their feed. Oftentimes people didn't even know who the
guy was. It just was like everybody saw it, even
if they never looked at any kind of gory things
like that before.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Well, I never heard of him before this happened.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then I got a text message about event from
one of my friends, and then I looked it up
and then the video started poring in right.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They were everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I also, like you thought they were gonna be taken down.
I've only seen them taken down on Instagram. Really, they're
all over X, which I find ironic because only a
couple of weeks ago, when we had talked about that
guy that preserved tattooed skin, we made a social clip
of that little part of that episode, and that got
taken down for violence, right, And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Listen, I stumbled across like anal sex videos on I
didn't even realize on X that you were allowed to
post things like that until Kanye West. Remember Kanye West
posted all that porn stuff. Yeah, and I was. I
was shocked, honestly, And I said to you, you're allowed
(06:50):
to like this guy is posting penetration on here, and
You're like, yeah, you're allowed to do porn on there.
I didn't even realize that, but I've stumbled across it
just be because of the certain things that we look
for on this show.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, the rules got adjusted a lot when Elon took over,
and then you know, like there's the porn element. That's
why I was really shocked on ex to our video
got taken down because I'm like, we're not even talking
about anything bad. We're talking about a doctor in the
historical science, but I appealed to it. I got restored. But
at the same time, like you have videos of really
graphic porn and then you have videos of people getting
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murdered all the time on here.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
God, there's so many of them. There was a part
of the first two days of this happening that every
single picture that I saw was different angles of the assassination.
It just was. It was really nothing like I've ever
seen before.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, especially if you're engaging with the content, they're just
going to keep feeding it to you.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, it just I don't know, it just it just
was really not the situation. So as of today, right
now at noon on Tuesday the sixteenth, we don't have
an autopsy report yet that at least has been released
to the public. So anyone at this point that's talking
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about what exactly happened to him is just speculation because
no one has gotten to examine their body except the
people that were directly involved with the investigation. So all
this is what I've been saying because a lot of
people obviously have been asking me what I think, And
all I could really say for right now for sure
(08:28):
is that the same exact thing that all of you
guys have seen, which is he has a gaping wound
in his neck. We don't know if it's an entrance wound,
and we don't know if it's an exit wound. At
this point, all we know is that there is blood
pouring out of this gaping wound in his neck, which
is indicative of a serious vascular injury. Right there would
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be the karated the left common crotid artery coming right
off of the aorta, and if that thing was severed,
this would explain why the blood was just gushing out.
It is one of the closest arteries to the heart,
and every single time the heart beats, it's just squirting
(09:11):
out and squirting out and squirting out. So we could
say that his body and his heart were pumping and
he was physically alive when he got shot, but we
don't know exactly what happened. I didn't see an exit wound.
It doesn't mean there was an exit wound or there wasn't.
We just don't know. I mean, we didn't even really
see the entire back of his body. We don't know
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if he was wearing any kind of armor. We don't
know anything right now. So all of it is just speculation,
and there's a lot of different scenarios that could happen,
and we just kind of have to wait for it
to come out to really be certain of his injuries.
But we know that he was bleeding profusely out of
this wound and he was exanguminating. If you look at
(09:56):
the amount of blood, so a human can live with.
A human has about five liters of blood in their
body right and you could live if you lose two
if you have life saving intervention right away, and even
then it's like you could possibly If you think about
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losing two lids of blood, that's like a two liter
bottle of soda or like a half of a gallon
of milk. It's really not that much fluid. And when
you look at the video and you see all that
blood pouring out of his neck, there's absolutely no way
that anybody is surviving that injury. It's just not happening.
If it was, let's say, for example, he got shot
(10:38):
in a major artery of the arm and you were
able to tourniqate it off, there would be a possibility
of surviving something like that, But in your neck, that
can't be tourniquet. We also discuss this in the gross
room this week that like, why was there not an
ambulance on site right there at an event with three
(11:00):
thousand students at a university.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, that seems weird.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's weird. We saw his security guards carrying him to
the van. There's no blood dripping that they're walking on
a tan sidewalk. There's absolutely no blood on the ground,
which means to me that he was already his heart
was not beating because the blood wasn't coming out anymore
unless they were able to plug it up. That's a
(11:25):
possibility to They did say that he was alive at
the hospital for some time afterwards. I personally think that
that was just like think about this from his friends
and family perspective, like which many of them had said
that the way that they found out that their friend
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was shot or dead is because they saw the video online.
Because everybody's always on their phone and always on social media.
It's possible that they just put that out there to
like kind of try to break the news to the
family and friends. It's a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I was surprised because reports were coming out that
he was stabilized at the hospital.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
There's no way he was stabilized.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
As a lay person I saw the video, it was
like if he survived that, that's an absolute miracle.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I mean, there is just no way there was exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I know you're saying it's like not that much fluid,
but like to me, that looks like a lot of
blood to be losing.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
No, it I it is, it's it's it's not when
you think about it, like a half a gallon of milk.
If you just look at it, it's just kind of
if you poured it on the floor for example. It's
it's it's not that much really, right in comparison to
what you would think is inside of your body. But
he I mean listen, like he was unconscious within seconds. Yeah,
(12:46):
he likely stroked out because of that, and that's why
he had that decord icay position, which if you notice
in the video, he as soon as I mean shortly
after he got shot, within seconds, his arms, both of
his arms went up to his chest in a tight position,
and that's indicative of a serious brain injury. So and
(13:12):
we don't know what that was caused by. Was it
caused by just the disruption of oxygen getting to his brain,
because his carotid artery was obliterated, or was it because
of ammunition hitting his brain or shrapnel like a bone
breaking off and hitting his brain or something like that.
(13:32):
So whatever it was, that was what caused him to
have that position. But that's also consistent with a person
being unconscious. So it was very I guess to the
relief of his family and friends watching that video, which
I just can't even imagine seeing someone I at. I mean,
(13:52):
it's disturbing to watch a stranger get shot like that,
let alone like somebody that you know and love. And
it just was the white shirt and it was the
white back, right, it just was so graphic. And didn't
we didn't we see something similar with that quarterback on
the Miami Dolphins when he got tackled and it was
a repetitive concussion where his fingers kind of curled up,
(14:13):
Like yeah, well that yeah, and that one could be
a different kind of head injury as well, but yes,
like it's a certain kind of postulation that happens if
you get a brain injury like that. So yeah, I mean,
I just it's just it's just really just it was
disturbing and it's disturbing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then as far as the investigation goes, they have
somebody in custody right now. He's twenty two years old
Utah resident. His name is Tyler Robinson. Police had released
footage of the suspect, and this guy's dad actually recognized
him as his son, confronted him about it, said he
confessed and eventually urged him to turn himself in. So,
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of course there's a million conspiracies as far as that goes, too,
But that's what's in the news right now and that's
what we're going to report on too. So Charlie Kirk's
funeral is said to take place this Sunday at State
Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. There's been a lot of
video released about the transport of his casket on Air
Force two by his wife. She's also released some videos
(15:17):
of her, you know, like whispering to his dead body.
It's really sad to see.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, a lot of people are also think that the
video's fake. There's like to let you guys know that
aren't all up in this, Like, there's people that think
the whole entire thing was staged. I personally don't think that.
I don't think that his hands look fake in the
video because I've seen so many dead people and you
(15:44):
just have to understand that when your heart isn't beating anymore,
you just don't you don't look the same. And the
only thing to compare in that video is his wife
who's alive that has a live hand next to his
embalmed hand at a viewing that has makeup on it
as well. And when a person gets shot like that
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or has any kind of injury where they bleed out
their their skin and their organs, everything is very pale
in color as it is. And when they embalm a
person sometimes they mix different color dies in order to
give the skin a more lifelike color, because the person
would be very pale and gray. And on top of that,
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he also has a certain kind of makeup or foundation
on his hands to just give it a more lifelike color.
And ann he's embombed, which makes the tissue kind of
shrink up and look have that waxy appearance too. So
anyone that really is familiar with what a person looks
like at a funeral viewing wouldn't think that that looks abnormal.
(16:47):
I mean, I personally think it's it's just weird. I mean,
I grew up Catholic. This is what we do in
our family. I don't like it, and I just can't.
I don't like it. I've never looked at anybody and
thought like, Okay, they look anywhere like that. They look
like they're just alive but sleeping. And maybe that's because
(17:09):
I'm overly critical because I know what dead people look like.
I don't know. I just think I just am not
a fan of it. It just it's just I don't know,
just for me personally. I mean, if you want to
do it, go ahead. It's I've been the plenty of
them with our family. It's just it's just weird. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't like it at all. I actually, well, we're
actually gonna have doctor Paul Kudenars on the show very soon.
In his book Memento, Maury actually goes into the history
of funerals and how we kind of transitioned into that
this like very sterile environment where we do things like this,
and I thought it was really cool to see, and
how he highlights how other cultures celebrate death.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Too, because guys, it's interesting, like you're going to if
we can figure this out and have the visuals along
with him, because he's just such an interesting person to
talk to and and like he's one of my great friends.
We talk all the time. When you hear some of
these stories about this recent trip that he went on
and see the pictures and the videos that go with it,
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it's just like it's another world of outrageousness and I
can't wait for you guys to hear it.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
All right, So we have kind of like substories to
this overall one as well. So I guess since we
were talking so much about the video, let's talk about
this that this public school teacher has been suspended after
allegedly showing ten and eleven year old's videos of the
assassination and saying Charlie Kirk deserve to die and all
this other stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You know, at my kids' school, they talked about it,
and Mike and especially my middle one is in seventh grade,
and I think at this point it's like, you know,
she tells me all the time, she's the only kid
that doesn't have social media in her grade. So kids, like,
not just adults, were stumbling across The kids were stumbling
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across it, which is which is terribly disturbing. But you know,
they went into school, and they had questions and they
talked about it in the class and I asked her
exactly what was said, and it seems like everything was
done in a very just educational, respectful way without showing
the video to the ones that hadn't seen it, because
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Lilian didn't see it, right, And I like, I like that,
I don't. I don't really want her to see that.
I just don't. I don't think she needs to see it,
and I don't I don't understand why some teacher would
think that that was appropriate. It's almost just like people
are losing their fricking minds in a certain way, you
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know what I mean, Like you're not thinking straight because
of this.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, it kind of reminds me of these stories I've heard.
I don't know if this is Ricky's story or somebody else,
but because I was really young when like nine to eleven, heaven, right,
but their stories out there where you know, the twin
towers get hit and then teachers roll the TV into
the classroom inners show kids the news live and you're like,
do you realize thousands of people are getting killed right
now and you're showing this to elementary school kids and
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they're not that dumb.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
They know where it's going.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm not sure that that's that that's I mean, it's possible,
but I don't really think that that's an accurate story
because I was twenty one years old when that happened,
and every place was like closing the schools, sending the
kids home. There was there was really not a lot
of that. I mean, I'm sure there were schools maybe
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in the country that remained open, but I think everybody
was just very scared wanted to get their kids from school.
Schools closed early, my college closed.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Like my point in this is that like for me
as a child, that event was nine to eleven seeing
these videos as a child, right, I don't think adults
sometimes are thinking clearly about how much this can affect
a young child's mind. They know what's happening, like they
a ten year old is very aware they're seeing a
real person get murdered on video. They don't they don't
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always dissociate it with nothing like a horror movie or something.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Another thing is though, too, is that children are naturally curious.
Some adults are naturally curious too. And when you hear that, oh,
there's a video of this the first thing you want
to do is say, oh, okay, like I want to
see it. What's all the hype about? And I think
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that affects some people more than others. There's a big
difference between reading about something and seeing what that actually
looks like, well exactly. And then on top of that,
you have at least three thousand people that experienced it
in real life and not to mention, Okay, they saw
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him get murdered right in front of their face, but
we also forget to mention that there were there was
an active gunshot that went off and nobody knew what
was going on at the time, and that is just
scary to live through an active shooter event in general.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, totally, and I agree with you, like I think
that Kit, I think the schools should tell children about
what happened. Like I remember again with nine to eleven,
it was kind of like, you know, I went home
from school and then my school just kind of acted
like it never happened, And you're like, Okay, you can't
just not talk about this major thing that happened, right,
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because it's also scary not knowing what's going I.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Still don't talk about it at school.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
No, Well, when I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know what's funny, My kids came home from school
on nine to eleven and staid, they spent a period
talking about Charlie Kirk, And I said, would you talk
about did you talk about nine to eleven at all?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Never, didn't hear a drop of it all day.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well, I don't think you need to be like suicide
bombers got on a plane and murdered a bunch of people,
Like there's a way to phrase it to children where
you'd be like, this really bad thing happened, and you
know what I'm trying to say, there's a way to
tell children about what happened with it.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They don't tell children, they don't tell they don't tell
children anything. Well, I find they're talking about murder, So
like I guess, like.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well, I find it weird that they choose to talk
about this assassination with a political figure that's like, you
know it. I'm not trying to diminish it at all.
But it's not like the president got shot for example, right, Like,
so I I'm surprised it's it's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
No, it's it's totally a big deal.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But I'm saying it's actually a bigger deal because because
it's not the president, because obviously, like people, people have
something against the president. But this is the first time
that this has ever been done in a in a
way not I wouldn't say the first time, but like,
think about what a big deal it was when Martin
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Luther King got shot, like he wasn't the president, and
like we have a day dedicated to celebrating.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, like what you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I just think when it's like this versus nine to eleven,
I find it odd they do. For used to talk
about nine to eleven, but they will talk about something
like this.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Well I was.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Thinking that too, but then I sat back and I
was like, this to the to the children growing up
right now, this is more relevant than nine to eleven,
you know what I mean. It's like if we're talking
about one day at school, talking about nine to eleven
versus Pearl Harbor Day, for example, like obviously nine to
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eleven affected us more than Pearl Harbor Day did because
we weren't even alive when it happened. Kind Of like
that thing. I don't think it really has to be
a choose one over the other you know, but if
they only had so much time to talk about like
a current event, I feel like, I mean, there's still
victims of nine to eleven who are still alive and
dying of cancer. Well yeah, it's it's still relevant to
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everyone that lived through it and definitely a part of
history that we should know about and question and and
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
So but the last part of this story, So somebody
went on Amazon and thought it was a good idea
to upload a sweatshirt that mimicked the T shirt he
was wearing with blood spatter on it, and obviously Amazon
took it down right away.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, I mean, you're just gonna have you know, Uh,
this is kind of the same thing in a way
with with JFK getting assassinated, for example, like such a
public execution, you think, like, how did how did all
of the people in his family go on to see
(25:37):
all just think about the intense interest in JFK's assassination,
all the documentaries made, all the movies made, the all
of the trials, the frame by frame of him getting
his head blown off and showing Jackie going on the
back of the car and getting pieces of his brain up,
and like just that repeating all over over and over again.
(25:59):
How did avoid that?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Like you can't unless you know, unless you have somebody,
unless you don't go on your phone all day.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But I'm saying, but like let's say Jackie O for example,
before there were phones like that, Like how how did
she just avoid turning on the TV? Just say, you
just want to turn on the TV and watch a
movie and you see this all the time, it's on
the news, it's here, Like for her to avoid that,
did she just not look at TV for years? Did you,
(26:30):
like you think about that with her? And now you
think about the digital age and how are his friends
and family supposed to ever go on social media again?
And like the children growing up that will eventually be
able to see this, Like they're going to see it
whether they want to or not. That's what I'm trying
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to say, Like, how do you avoid it unless you
just make it a vow that you're never going on
social media again.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm not saying this is like the correct but it's
just like part of being a public figure. Everything about
your life, your life and your death are highly publicized.
So I think it was a little easier for Jackie
Kennedy because it was just in the day and age
of television and radio. So while her life probably sucked
in some capacity, she was probably able to avoid it. Also,
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let's not forget allegedly the Kennedy's treated her really poorly
after his death and kind of just for like you're
on your own now, So I'm sure it was like
a little easier to just kind of go away from
everything and not be fully immersed in it. I think,
as in today's world of technology, it's just something you
can't avoid. His wife might need to live the next
(27:40):
couple of years and just truly not have access to
a cell phone and have some like an assistant be
like this is the text. And I'm saying that's ridiculous
and impractical, but like, if you want to avoid it,
that's really probably the only way unless you only go
on your phone to get text and calls, like a
flip phone, you only get calls and text. You can't
go on the internet or anything. Yeah, and how do
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you do that?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It's just a crazy It's just something that I think
of as a crazy thought to navigate through life in
that kind of a way, the way that things are
right now. But I imagine that that would just be like
extremely triggering all the time for I mean, not just
her obviously the most, but what about I mean, the
(28:22):
guy's your age, like he has he has to have parents, right,
and like don't I don't know anything about that, but
it's just like there's a lot of other people involved
in it, and it's just I guess you're right though,
when you're a public figure, it's like there's just there's
more interest in your life and there's interest in your death.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I also think when you're a public figure, the people
closest to you, meaning like his wife might have I
hate this phrase, media trained, but they might have some
form of training where they can like dissociate from negative press.
I mean, he was very controversial. It's not like everybody
loved him, so I'm sure they're used to really negative press,
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and I'm sure with that you have some type of
training to dissociate from seeing things like that and live
your normal life.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
So maybe you can.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Channel into that part of your brain. But it's gonna
be impossible for her to avoid it.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, it's it's crazy, and the stuff that's just coming
out is whatever. We just like, we're not going to
talk about that here. But yeah, so let's talk about
let's talk about another horrible murder. Hold on, a horrible
gruesome murder on film.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Hold On.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I just also wanted to say, though, that that sweatshirt
reminded me about ten years ago. Urban Outfitters released a
vintage Kent State University sweatshirt on their website that they
said was vintage aged.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It was a red sweatshirt that just was aged. It
looked like it had blood spatter all over it. Does
nobody remember the tragedy that happened there in nineteen seventy
It was so insensive.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I remember about that shirt.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And they just tried to be like, oh, it was
like aged in the sun, and that's just the way
it looked. I'm sorry, but if anyw I have to
put a link to this picture or put it up
somewhere because it's unbelievable. It is not sunfaded. It directly
looks like blood spatter.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, it's you know what it just reminded me of too,
which is this is kind of similar. But do you
remember after the Boston Marathon bombing that they did this
like really sexy photo shoot of one of the bombers
on the cover of the magazine and everybody was like,
what what's happening right now?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, so weird it is.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's really weird when when people are like trying to
push a certain edge, you're just kind of like, no, no, yeah, exactly,
all right, So let's let's get into this other group, dude.
This week, really in one calendar week, you had the
girl we talked about last week that are no, oh,
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that that's a whole different one. I wasn't even talking
about her. I was talking about the video on the train.
I reah, yeah she was. She was stabbed in the neck,
like a video that went viral. And then it's like
Charlie Kirk video gone viral. This other one that we're
going to talk about now was on the internet at
some point because someone grabbed it for me and it's
(31:13):
in the Grossroom dot com if you want to see it.
But like it's really really disturbing, and you're just like,
social media can't keep up with this.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
No, they can't.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So in this case out of motel in Dallas, this
guy and his coworker were cleaning a room. The manager
comes by and tells them not to use a broken
washing machine. So, according to the coworker. The man got
angry because the manager was talking to her to translate
the conversation to the man instead of talking to him directly,
so he proceeds to leave the room, produce a machete,
(31:45):
and start stabbing the manager repeatedly before eventually cutting his
head off over communication over a broken washing machine.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Wait, the worst part of this story is that I mean,
I guess that that's bad. But while he was getting stabbed,
he ran across the parking lot to the office and
was screaming for his wife and his son who were
in the office, who came out and tried to intervene
and get in between them, and they weren't able to
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get the guy to stop stabbing her husband and his father,
and he cut off the guy's head in front of
his wife and his son.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And then proceeded to kick it in the parking lot
and then picked it up and threw it in a dumpster.
So police get there, this guy is still holding the
MACHETI bloods all over his shirt, in his body. Can
you imagine rolling up on the scene as law enforcement?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
So that's did you see the video in the grocery, Maria,
I listen, let me tell I know that it's not
your thing, but listen, the way that they write these
stories is just not it's just not accurate like we
have it on film. So this is something that I
actually wanted to bring up. This is all caught on film.
The guy cuts his head off and he puts it
(33:02):
and kill He kicks it like a literal soccer ball
across the parking lot. It's so disturbing. He picks the
head up and it's bloody and dripping, and then brings
it to this dumpster. As he's coming back from the dumpster,
still knife in hand, the ambulance shows up. Not the police,
there's just ambulance, right, And the ambulance workers get out
(33:23):
of the car, out of the bus, and they you know,
they're they're like, obviously there's nothing they could do at
this point. Right. I specifically asked this to Gabe because
I said, what is the protocol? Because this could this
happened in Dallas, this could have happened where Gabe works too, Right,
what's the protocol if you show up in an ambulance
(33:43):
or a firetruck and there's no cops on the scene
with a gun and you come out to report to
a call, and there's a man that has just carried
a head into a dumpster and has a knife in
his hand. And Gabe was just like, I would stay
in the fire truck. That's what he said to me.
In this video, you see them get out of the ambulance.
(34:04):
Now I'm sure the cops are right behind them. Whatever. Listen,
if I just witnessed a guy cut off someone's head
with a machete, I sure as how I'm not going
out of the of the ambulance to see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Uh No, especially like a police officer. I understand, because
you have a gun or like a stunt gun or something,
or a batad right, Like I wouldn't deal with a batond.
Well that's a gun situation only excusively you have, you
have something to protect you.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
But the ambulance they what do they have? Serious?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Nothing?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And like that, I was shocked that they got out
and the ambulance is their only weapon if you want
to like flower into the ribe. Yeah, like I just
would have been like, oh, hell no, I am not
going out there and seeing what's going on here. I
mean listen, like I understand that they likely were not
because when they got the call. It was like somebody's
getting attacked and there might have even been possibly with
(34:58):
a knife. The head gutting off happened seconds before they
actually pulled into the parking lot, and I'm sure they
sure as hell, we're not expecting that. And you see
that and you're like, okay, I just witnessed this thing.
Get c I mean, would you even think that it
was a human head if you arrived at that scene
and saw that and so somebody kicked something, your mind
(35:19):
would not allow that to happen.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, it's like in all the true crime documentaries when
people are like, I thought this dead person was a
mannequin in the woods, right, Like your brain just cannot
go there.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, So like they pull up and see they walk
to a guy with a bloody, dripping knife kicking ahead
like a soccer ball and putting it in the trash.
Like you know, they just weren't they weren't like thinking, right, like,
because when you're an EMS person, your first thing is like,
I got to get to the emergency and save a
(35:51):
person's life. But like, clearly that guy is a tour
soo now and like there's no saving that person's life.
But at the same time, they didn't know if there was.
They're victims and things like that. Like I understand that,
but like they gotta protect themselves. And like you know
when you're like in a bad situation and you're just
driving and you're like, let me just lock my door,
(36:11):
not to all attention to it, but like I don't
want this crazy person coming in my car. It's the
same kind of a thing.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Are you ever Like in a parking lot there's a
crazy person walking around and you make icons and then
you lock the door, but it makes the loud.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
That's what separate.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, that's why, Oh my god, I gotta drive like.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, but again, this is why you gotta get tanted windows, Maria.
Nobody will see you do it.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Oh my god.
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Okay, So we had a lot of talk about this week, guys,
and we have a lot of good stories for the
rest of the episodes too, and interview with Paul. It's
going to be very lively on mother nos death this week.
So this is one that's been circulating the internet too,
which is a nice distraction from all of the death
and dismemberment we've been seeing.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
So Lily Collins, who is the daughter of Phil Collins,
star of Emily and Paris, She's been out and about
in New York City over the weekend because it's fashion week.
So the Papa Nanci took pictures of her going to
the Calvin Klein show over the weekend and the photos
have just absolutely gone viral because of how thin her
waist is I mean again, this is gonna come across
(38:20):
his body shaming to some people. I when I first
saw these pictures, they look so bizarre. I thought they
were AI.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
All right, So this is my question because I and
this is probably where they're going with this, because I
didn't ever hear of this girl. This show, I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Know, pretty popular show. You don't watch television, I know.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I don't, but Phil Collins, I know Phil Collins, and
I didn't know that this was his daughter. But anyway,
I digressed, like now everybody's talking about it. So now
everybody knows for sure that she's working on this new
project and this and that, and I guess part of
the thing is is that this thing that she's working
(39:06):
on or did work on, was a story about a
person that was battling with anarexia.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Correct, well, that was like ten years ago, and this
story is season five. She's been in the press enough.
I don't think this was a planted story, if that's
what you're getting it, all right.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm just curious because like there was all these interviews
done with her that basically she felt she was doing
this role covering a person that had anorexia when she
was dealing with an eating disorder herself, right, So like,
is that a good idea? Let's talk about that first.
(39:44):
A person that has had a history of an eating
disorder since they were a teenager, is it good for
them to play a role of a person that has
an eating disorder? I personally would say, no, what do
you think?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I don't think so if it's if you're not fully
recovered and it's going to set you off. If you have,
you know, worked really hard to be in recovery and
you think you can approach it from a personal perspective
and show the best light, yes, but I think if
you're still teetering on the edge of being set off
and going back to your old ways, then no, I
don't think it's a good idea. Well, specifically, I don't
(40:20):
necessarily I'm against her playing the role per se.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
But one thing that really bothered me about it was
that she said that she had to lose a significant
amount of weight in order to play this character.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Well, that's that's problematic.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
So if it's really a problem, and like, they shouldn't
even have approached to her or asked her and even
put her in that position, which clearly like listen, I'm
not doing a physical exam on her, but at this
point I don't think I have to. She's still battling
with it, right. I don't know if you guys have
(40:54):
seen this photo, but she's wearing a like a what
do you call that? A bear mid drift.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It's too like an old lady.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
It's a real old day term.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
She's wearing like a crop top and a skirt in
her whole entire torsoes okay, basically.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, And and she looks skeletal to the point where
every single person that is looking just even her posture
is very bizarre. And so this is why I was
questioning if this was a publicity stunt, because we know
that people with annarexia, when they look in the mirror,
they're not seeing what everybody else is seeing. It's a dysmorphia.
(41:33):
They're not they're not seeing that they look thin enough. Right.
Everybody else on her team is though her, her stylist,
the person that made the dress, her, anybody that works
near her, the girl doing her makeup, the girl doing
her hair, the guy whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
But everybody that worked for Matthew Perry knew he was
an ad I. They kept giving him the tools to
fuel the addictions.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
I'm saying, though, like someone like I would think that's
someone on her team would be like, this is not
a good look. But the only reason that it that
it would be pushed out there is because they want
people to be talking about it.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I don't think that's true necessarily, Like you're saying, if
she doesn't see the dysmorphia, nobody in her camp is
gonna call it out because they don't want to lose
their job or lose their friendship with her. And if
this is truly a paparazzi picture on the street that
got released, I mean it's not the picture she posted
on her Instagram. I would say that was more planted.
She posted other pictures of this look on her Instagram,
(42:33):
but not these ones. In partition, she looks like viral
emaciated like that she does, which is I at first
thought these pictures were photoshopped or AI to some capability,
because you're like, there's no way that a human has
organs in their body that are that thin. It's it's really,
it's it's actually really it's really terrible.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And like I I'm not saying like it looks on
a chat, I don't care about that. I'm just saying
that for people that are also dealing with with anorexia,
that could be set people off as well. It's just
not it's not really, it's just a very unusual mental
(43:12):
illness like that that it has an effect on other
people as well, not just yourself. And well, I think
it's sad to see. I think it's a lot what
you say with obesity too. It's not about the way
it looks per se. It's about worrying about the person's
state of their health. So what's been what's been the
(43:33):
general I mean, I just read this one article that
had a couple comments, but what's the general comments about
her appearance? I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I mean, on that Instagram post when I looked this morning,
it was a mixture of wow, you look amazing, mixed
with I hope you get the help you need. And
I don't know if her team had gone through. I mean,
the pictures had been up a couple of days. I
don't know if her team had gone through and wiped
a bunch of them out, But there were comments on
there addressing it.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, It's just interesting to me because, like obviously the
most famous actress or singer and actress. I guess you
would say Karen Carpenter, right, who was like severely anorexic,
going down to seventy nine seventy nine pounds at some
point in her life and visibly on TV that everybody
(44:19):
that she would get on TV and people would be like,
like it, like disturbed by her appearents, you know what
I mean. But like back then, it was like nobody
was talking about it like that, and now it's like
we're pretty open and talking about it. And I feel
like we should because there's lots of people that are
suffering with it, and maybe she's trying to bring awareness
(44:40):
to it. I don't. I don't know, Like I.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Think it's shocking to see a person that thinn in general,
but also because she's been open about having an eating
disorder in the past, that's why it's more front and center.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, And I guess like, if she's not doing well
right now and she had a premiere to go to
and stuff, that's that's one thing. But I'm almost like
you're accentuating it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
It's think about this, if Calvin Klein was like, I'm
gonna dress you to come to my runway show where
you're going to tell him, no, I'm not wearing that piece.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
You're gonna take whatever the fuck he gives you.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Like he doesn't know what your whole body looks like underneath,
so like think about that.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
But like she's a somebody, right, she just get whatever
she wants.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, it doesn't matter though, because you still, like you
get these special opportunities. You might not want to be rude.
You don't know what happened that landed her in that outfit. Also,
like you said, she might look at herself and not
think anything looks amiss.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, I mean, I just think there should be someone
on your team that's like, you know how like yeah,
and then if you're wearing something and then you're fired,
and then I replacing another person that's like, wow, you
look amazing. Okay, have you, like, have you ever dealt
with celebrities like this is how they offerate Phil Collins
would never raise a child that that was that Brady,
(45:57):
It just wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Well, okay, have you also ever met the child of
the celebrity Because I've worked for a couple and they're
pretty terrible people and so okay, all right, let's talk
about why so many accidental pregnancies happen in women's forties.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Listen, when I was reading this, this is like this
is this is like a real problem. I'll tell you why.
Like I feel like, all right, let me tell you
about my appointment that I went to really quick today.
So I went to a special doctor that specializes in
hormones for women that are my age, that are like
perimenopausal and stuff. And for the past couple of years,
(46:36):
like shit's been changing for me, right, And I'm like, oh,
I've like barely bled and this and that, and like
I just could tell like I'm having all the symptoms
of going through menopause and all this stuff. So I'm
I'm thinking, like I'm kind of out of the woods
at that part of my life at this point. Well,
I just get go and had all the hormones tested
(46:56):
and stuff, and she's just like, yeah, like we're gonna
put you on these hormones, but like they can have
side effects of the fetus, and your hormones are showing
that like you very well could still get pregnant. And
I'm forty six, and I'm like, what, like, no, God,
that would be awful. It would be my worst nightmare
come true. But like I it happens, right, Like people
(47:18):
have babies at this age all the time, and and
but that's what happens, because like in my mind for
the past couple of years, I'm kind of like, yeah,
I'm done with that, but blood work today confirmed I'm
not done with that.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
All right, Well, so are you shedding that part of
your body off?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
No, I'm just gonna do what they say and not not.
I don't want to. I don't want this to happen.
But but I could see how lots of different women
that are my age, and I know lots of you
are listening that are my age, that you're kind of like,
all right, I'm starting to get into like my kids
are getting older and in my weird life case, I'm
gonna be a grandmam at some point, like I'm moving
(47:58):
into the next phase of my life about like retirement
accounts and things like that.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
You don't try to have babies at the same.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Time like to other people, although that would definitely ensure
that we would get a TV show like a hundred percent,
which no, thanks. Maybe if I just give you the
kid after I have it, then that would be a
considering you.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Could be like one of those grandmas that carries the baby.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
You know, did you ever see those stories?
Speaker 2 (48:26):
It'd be like fifty five year old grandmother carried twins, and.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
I would do that for you, except my my near
like death experiences with childbirth. It's just like, I can't
do that to my kids right now. But my little
kids anyway, Well, if I was like you know how
mo mom was, like, I could be prepped all the
time and whip out babies and like squawks to a
(48:50):
tree and give birth. Like if I was that kind
of woman, I'd be like, yeah, I'll do it. Why not?
But you know, it's just it's not in the cards
for me. But anyway, we're not going to be pregnant
at the same time. Like, no, that's weird. So wait
then my like my little baby would be like your
baby's aunt. That's just it's too weird.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I think I just saw a story that a mother
and her daughter are impregnated by the same man, and
they're like, cool, why is it mother knows death?
Speaker 4 (49:22):
No, I think it's old.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
But I feel like I just saw like an update.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Did it? Did we not cover it?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
We might have I don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
It was an older story. Maybe I just saw it
on TikTok. I need to confirm this, all right, this
might be a story next week.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
You just like, I think this is reportable news.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
No, I feel like I saw it on social media
or something. We like to wait till there's news stories
because people make shit up. So like, I don't know,
We're stay stay tuned. We're gonna look into this. But
remember there was like an episode of Golden Girls where
blance thought she was pregnant when she was just going
through menopause.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, it's no, it's a thing, and it's it's scary
actually because some of the symptoms that you can get.
You know, I sat down with this nurse practitioner today
for a while, like a solid hour, and she told
me about this level is gonna make your bibs tender
and this and that. She went back and forth, and
I was like, oh shit, like I don't I kind
(50:20):
of like don't have much of an interest in all
the hormone stuff. So I learned a lot today.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
What ya mental state? How is that gonna affected?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
I'm going to be more awesome? Actually, well, actually I
just got some pellets inserted in my butt cheeks. So
whatever personality comes out, you're gonna be stuck with for
a while until it fades away.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Wait, I still don't understand, so, like, what did they do?
They made an what are the pellets?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
It's I guess it's a continuous release of medication that's subcutaneous,
that is absorbing in your skin rather than having to
do the gel every day. Weird, Yeah, it's I mean, like,
I made this appointment seriously in the in may or June.
I was so hyped to go because like, I really
(51:08):
just don't feel good, and I was also telling the
recept that whole place is so so awesome. I was
telling the receptionist like I've been feeling not good for
almost two and a half, for three years now, and
I was trying to do it old school, like my
mom never took hormones, my grandmom never took hormones. Everybody
(51:31):
like since the beginning of time never did, and all
this stuff. And then I was like, you know what,
like why, Like finally I was like, why am I
making myself suffer? Why?
Speaker 4 (51:40):
Since here use it?
Speaker 3 (51:42):
It's here and I am using it, So I don't know,
because like obviously it's gonna take some while for it
to kick in, but I'll keep you guys updated. But
some of our friends I won't name any names because
I don't want to have a semi hip hop violation
with some of our friends at crime con. But if
you're listening, you know who you are are doing the
pellets and said it's life changing. So I'm looking forward
(52:05):
to that.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
I'm looking forward to it for you everybody in there.
Like I told Gabe.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
I told Gabe and he's like, well, what's He's like,
what's it do? And I was like, it's going to
solve all of my life problems.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Maybe then Gabe will stop being like she's yelled at
me four times this morning.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Really he deserves it sometimes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
A doctor working at a hospital in India has been
arrested after it was discovered he was telling women the
sex of their babies.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Did they I couldn't figure out what this story was like,
Like he's getting arrested from the hospital because is that
something that they're not supposed to do in that culture
or no?
Speaker 4 (52:49):
So in India and China, it's banned.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
It's illegal to do that because because people like.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Get abortions and stuff if they're not having the sex
that I want to because of that.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
So I found an article from NBC from two thousand
and six talking about the first physician that had been
jailed due to this. It was put in place in
nineteen ninety four, this law. So they said it was
due to a quote epidemic of parents aborting female fetuses.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yeah. I actually my friend ye is from China. She
was one of RPA students and then she ended up
being one of my friends, and I remember when we
were working together, she told me all about that and
I just was like, wait, what there was like something
about that was like a big thing that was going
on over there.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, So in nineteen ninety four the law went into effect.
I believe it definitely in India. I believe in China
went to effect at the same time. And yeah, you're
not allowed to know the gender of your baby. I
guess until you give birth.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
That's that's like the dumbest shit I ever heard.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
Yeah, it just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Like I understand that some that like the is is more, you.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Know, such a miracle that we should just want any baby,
But like if you're just a realistic person, like you
know that that like you need both for sure, and really.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
You just need women to like get shit done, right, Like,
do you ever think about that? Like all of the
great men in history, You're just like, yeah, if they
didn't have a wife, guess what, Like you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Exactly, So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
I follow this girl on TikTok that just got pregnant
through IVF and at her like anatomy scan, they just
found out that her baby's missing, like one of her hands,
it just stopped growing. And all these people in the
comments were like, you should get an abortion over.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
A missing hand.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm like, who gives a shit, It's a healthy baby, know,
people are.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
This is why, Like maybe it's not a good idea
to share your information even though I just shared mine.
Someone's gonna be like in the comments, I hope you
start growing chin hair, Nicole, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Listen, we already have mustaches, so we know how to
deal with it.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, okay, Like try me. That's not the worst thing.
Now if I if I start getting zets, that that
might throw me over the edge. But besides that or
chest hair, I've never had to deal with that either.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
I've had back hair and arm hair and mustache hair
and all the hair my whole life doing the glove. Yeah,
I'll just go to doctor Dimitri and be like, hey,
you gotta you gotta do some laser on me anyway. Yeah, Like,
if you're going through all the things with IVF and stuff,
it's just like you're not You're not gonna jump to
(55:42):
the A word very quickly. And that certainly is like
a hand is the dumbest shit ever. Who the fuck
will get an abortion over your baby missing a hand?
It's like the dumbest shit I've ever heard. If the
baby is healthy, who cares? Like There's just there's so
many technological advancements today that this is not even like
a problem anymore.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
So this this story got me thinking about about like
gender reveals and stuff, and what about in the hospital,
for example, if a family doesn't want to know and
somehow like the the the ultrasound technician like says it
by accident or something like, could they I mean they're
(56:22):
not gonna really do. I know, they're definitely not gonna
arrest anybody, but could they get Like I think it's
like demanded at work.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
I think it's a dick thing.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
To do.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
But I don't think you're gonna Yeah, you might get
like a slap on the wrist, but what are they
gonna do? Sometimes people say it by accident.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
Yeah, it's just like that's like really important to some people.
I don't know why, because it's just like it's it's
it's gonna be one or the other. Like what's the
I don't know what's the big like drama about?
Speaker 2 (56:48):
All right. Last story, a woman is claiming that she
was shopping at Goodwill ended up buying a coat. When
she got home, she started going through it and then
found a suicide note in the pocket. So I guess
the question is, what can you read the note? Yeah,
hold on, I have it on my phone, all right.
It says, Valerie, you are my best friend in the
(57:09):
whole entire world. This is one hundred percent not your fault.
I couldn't be saved after everything that happened with Aaron
and the video, I just couldn't do this anymore. But
I don't want that to be the only thing you
remember now that I'm gone. I want you to remember
our trips to Starbucks, everything we did after homecoming, and
our time spent as neighbors. You are basically a sister
(57:31):
to me. Please take care of yourself. I also want
you to quit what you're doing, you know what I'm
talking about, and take care of your body. Go out
and have fun. You deserve it. Goodbye, Emily.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
That's really sad.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
It is really sad. I mean, I guess this person
is asking for advice on what to do with it,
whether to keep it or return it. Some people are
saying call the police, Like what are you gonna what
are you.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Supposed to do to call the police?
Speaker 3 (57:56):
Yeah, like that that's so dumb, Like what do you
the thing is that you're you're really I mean, I
guess there could ever be a situation that you could
potentially get something at a thrift store that would be
part of a crime, and then they would be able
to like put the resources to trace back where it
came from, because Goodwill, for example, will have like the
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bins outside, but they also have drop offs from different areas,
and for a forensic investigation that might be worth it.
But for this it's like, how are you, like, what
police department are you even gonna call? I drop my
stuff off in a town three towns over? Like everybody
does that?
Speaker 2 (58:36):
You call the cops.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
They are gonna be like, thanks, what am I gonna
do with this?
Speaker 2 (58:39):
I mean, I guess either if this gets picked up enough,
people are gonna know two people with those names that
it happened to, right, Yeah, the person wrote the note
but never went through with it.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
So that's what I was thinking too. I was like,
there is a possibility that someone wrote it and had
it in their coat pocket and just never went through
with it.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Honestly, like a big their technique is writing letters knowing
that you're never gonna send them. I'm not saying that's
what happened in this scenario. I'm just saying it is
a therapy technique used for people to get their words
out without having like a lot of conflict. So yeah,
and it's interesting too because if your friend really did
kill themselves, like would you would.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
You want to keep that? I don't know, no, Like,
it's it's just really it's just really an incredibly sad story.
But if you did want to keep it, I guess
it would be really sad that you lost something like that.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
But at the same time, the person buying the jacket,
I don't think they should keep it. I feel like
it's like bad energy, Like what are you gonna do
with it? Hold on to it and keep looking at it.
It's like possibly the end of somebody's life.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
I mean I would keep it.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Well, you're a different breed of person, so.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
I just I just think it's it's just like it's
kind of interesting. It's just interesting and and of course,
like that kind of shit drives me nuts because I'm like,
what happened on the videotape? I want to what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Let's move on to Questions of the Week. Every Friday
at that Mother nos Death Instagram account, you guys have
head over to our story and ask whatever you want first.
With all you've seen, do you find yourself prone to
depression or losing faith in humanity?
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I don't think that. I that yeah, I guess sometimes.
I mean just like last week was a good example.
There's just like a lot of things that happen that
you're kind of like even with the girl on the train,
you're just kind of like, okay, cool, So now you
just have to be like sitting there and like hanging
out and some like crazy person's going to stab you
in the throat, like the the online like vitriol towards
(01:00:41):
one another, just like, yeah, I mean, but I feel
like I'm having the same experience as every human. Yes,
Like it's not. I mean, a lot of this stuff
that I that I've seen throughout my career is just
stuff that's not really preventable. Cancers and kids and things
like that, disease. It is certain things that are just
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natural that that's all that you really have control over yourself.
Is cigarettes, smoking, drinking, alcohol, smoking weed, all that stuff.
If you control all that yourself, then I feel like
you have a higher probability of living a healthy, successful life.
But other than that, like a lot of it's out
of your control.
Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
All right too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Will a casket be open if an autopsy is performed?
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Yes, good question.
Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
We do the incisions in such a way that they
can be hidden. So let's talk about Charlie Kirk for example.
He definitely had an autopsy and he definitely had a
viewing from what we could see from the videos. So
we we'll just use him as an example just because
he's uh in the news this week. So when they
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do the internal exam, they will do the y incision,
And especially in men, it's just very easy to hide
because most men are bury in a suit when they
have a viewing like that, so that incision will be
hidden under the clothes. They will also sew up and
really fix that wound in his neck, which it may
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be partially visible where the collar hits the neck where
the tie is, so there might obviously he was shot
while he was alive, so there might be like a
large area of hemorrhage in that area, like or bruising
because of that wound, whatever caused it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
So the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Funeral directors can work miracles and can like spackle it
basically with whatever they're using their fill the hole up
and put makeup on it and make it look like
it's not even there, and then taking the brain out
as well, because they'll also do that on Charlie Kirk.
So the incision goes ear to ear on the crown
of the head. So if you could see, if your
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guys are watching the YouTube, where my headphones are, we
would do it like a little bit further right about
there actually where the headphones are, but the incision will
go behind the ear, and then we are able to
peel the face over and then peel the scout back
and take out the brain, put the skull cap back
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on and sew it up. And so for someone like
Charlie Kirk, especially that has a full head of hair,
you would that incision will be completely hidden by his hair.
But even if you're bald, they're able to do. You know,
they have their they do their magic the funeral directors,
and they're able to glue the incision closed and fix it.
And then they also put the head on a pillow
(01:03:36):
so you won't be able to see it. So they're anybody.
Like every single autopsy I've done, I've always done it
with the respect that that person might want a viewings,
because sometimes people change their mind, so just always do
it for a viewing and then they'll never be a problem.
Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Three What did you want to eat after delivering your babies?
This is from one of our pregnant listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Listen, I'm a terrible I'm a terrible uh or was
a terrible pregnant person to take advice from, because and
I tell this to Maria all the time, Like, throughout
my career, I've done so many dissections on placentas, Like
every PA will say that we've touched thousands of plazennas
in our career. And so many of them at a
(01:04:22):
history of like meth abuse, heroin abuse, this, this, this, this,
like babies are really getting like treated like crap and
still coming out alive and okay in the wounds sometimes.
So for me, I was never like I can't eat sushi,
I can't eat lunch meat like I did all of it.
(01:04:44):
Like I didn't smoke crack or the like smoke weed
or anything like that. But like I was never like
I'm not gonna eat this. I'm not gonna eat a
soft cheese like no f that I need to eat
soft cheese like every three days.
Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
But what were you craving like after you gave bird.
Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Life to be alive? I just wanted to be alive.
I didn't really care about eating. I'm sorry, I didn't really.
I can't think of like like Gabe didn't run out
and get me take out. Whatever I ate was what
came at the hospital. So it wasn't like I don't know,
I just I kind of I don't. I don't really know.
(01:05:21):
I did when I was pregnant with you, I craved
parogi's and ate them all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Though Lilian Big Max, Lillian.
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Yeah, I ate Big Max. I ate like such shit.
With Lilian, like I was, I don't know why, Like
I just was so hungry all the time. It was terrible,
to the point where they made me see a nutritionist.
They were like, we think you need to see a
nutritionist because you're gaining so much weight. And I was like,
I eat like three donuts every day. That's why I'm
(01:05:50):
gaining weight. Like I don't need anybody to tell me.
It's just like I can't stop.
Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
What did you crave a little?
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I ever, I want all the goodies? Well with with Luberd,
I was a little bit better because I was scared
that I was going to gain too much weight with her,
so I was like a little bit better with her.
But I don't think I really craved anything odd.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
So you scaled it back to two doughnuts.
Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Well, I think because when I had you, I was
a teenager, so obviously, like teenagers could eat whatever they
want and they don't gain any weight like I. I
probably gained like twenty pounds with you, if that like
the normal amount you're supposed to gain when you're pregnant.
And then with Lillian, it was like I guess I
kind of had the same thing, like and it was
(01:06:36):
I was older, and it was it was bad. I
gained like eighty pounds with her. It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
All right, guys, we have a couple events coming up.
We have a very busy October. So on October the third,
we have the Wildlife CSI at Lake Tobias Wildlife Park
that is hosted by Cheryl McCollum.
Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
I think, oh, you know what I'm supposed to tell everybody,
so if you buy so so, I just did a
post in the grosser room about this. Actually, So this
event is in Halifax, Paes, which is two hours from Baltimore,
two hours from Philadelphia, an hour from Lancaster, and about
(01:07:15):
a half hour from Harrisburg. Right, So if you guys
live in any of that like surrounding area, it'll be
a nice drive. But it's going to be really cool
because there's going to be some kind of animal encounter,
which sounds really cool. We're going to the one that's
on October yea at Friday at five o'clock. So there's
(01:07:37):
four different ones that you could choose from. But Cheryl said,
if you guys get a ticket, you could bring a
friend for free.
Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
So it's a good deal. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
A good deal actually, So we're bringing momm so if
you guys want to meet momm it's the first time
she's ever done anything with us. And we're not even
doing the event. We're just going as everyone because we
want to learn and we also want to hang out
with you because she's you know, she's from Atlanta and
she's just coming in. She's coming within our hoods, so
(01:08:05):
we got to go support her. But yeah, she is
a good time and Wildlife CSI just sounds like such
a cool thing because you just never really think about it.
But the little bit that I've learned from it's it's
super It's super interesting about you know, people are always
trying to poach animals and steal animals and illegally raise
(01:08:26):
animals and stuff, and there's just like this whole entire
field of forensics just dedicated to animals. It's so cool,
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
So then the next weekend, I'm very happy to be
joining the Keeping Hope Alive Family, who is an awesome
nonprofit that helps people going through IVF. So that Sunday,
October twelfth, they're doing their annual golf Classic in Mount Lawreld,
New Jersey, So I'll be volunteering there there.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
And check out check out the Mother Knows Death golf Court,
the golf cart.
Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Oh my god, it's gonna be so funny.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
But there's opportunities to volunteer, sponsor donate. It's a really
amazing organization, so everybody should check that out. And then lastly,
we have the Dark Side New Jersey event in Edison
on October eighteenth. So basically we're jamm packed every weekend
in October.
Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Yeah, we are. But I'm looking forward to that too.
So we're gonna be doing our podcast live there, so
that should be really fun, and I'm looking forward to
going shopping there really. Yeah, that's like my decor, so
I'll be like I need to bring all those bags
that I get from Wagmans to extra bags and like
stock them up with some stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Ricky was making some joke that I've never gone in
the store that I didn't like, meaning that I buy
something anywhere I go, I could always find something.
Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
So it's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I'm like that too, Like you're you're worst though. You
want to go in like the worst stores and just
be like I could find something here, this is cute,
and you're kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Like, no, you know, the levels is like to paperweight
Maria Mo. Mom's at the top with being the worst
and the deities below her and then encourage each other,
which is really problematic, and then I'm below them and
then you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
So momm just turned sixty nine on was on Sunday,
that was her actual birthday, Okay, so we hung out
with her on Sunday, like our whole family hung out.
And so she's sixty nine year old female. So I
want you guys that are listening to have a parent
that's that's a mother, specifically a mother that's that age,
(01:10:26):
Like what is the deal with them? And like Timu
and shopping because it's a thing, and it's not just
my mom, it's like every woman that's that age.
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It's like the dopamine of buying things, but it's cheap,
so you can keep buying things.
Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
But it's all shit.
Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
The best thing, let me tell you, guys, the best
thing that my mom bought on Timu, she bought skiing polls.
This is a woman that's fair act. Have we are
you sure?
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Well let's talk about it again because it's worth it.
This is a woman that barely goes outside should walk
from the house to the car. She's not an outdoors person.
She's never been skiing, she's never been anywhere recreationally where
there's been any kind of snow. She bought them to
like as walking sticks, like let's just leave it there.
Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
She returned them, so she probably paid more to ship
them back than they cost.
Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
That's the thing with those places, it's like not even
worth it. Oh yeah, I just want to know, like
what went like, what what was like the advertisement that
was targeted to her to she was like, Yeah, that's
a good idea. Let me do that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
You mean you're not blown away by the Timmouse plays
all the time on TV?
Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I don't know. I have no idea what you're talking about.
They have like the wor steams hung that's like a
commercial for them or something. Well, they like were a
big sponsored during the Super Bowl, remember, so they kept
playing it over and over and over again. Oh God?
Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
And does those slots are pricey? So you know they're
making money off all these booms.
Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Are they buying them?
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Are they geared towards like like do you shop there?
Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
No? I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I bought so even on Sheen, I only bought one thing. Ever,
on Sheen and it was these purses that looked like
disco balls I bought for the girls of my wedding
and they literally had to return them like four times
because they kept sending me broken ones. And I'm like,
I don't understand, what's.
Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
The problem is, Yeah, And I mean the girls have
we ordered a couple of years ago stuff from Sheen,
and like so much of it was so slutty, honestly,
Like I was like, we're not doing this anymore. Like
they've moved on to like the worst store, the second
worst store ever in the mall, so like, which is
triple the price. But okay, whatever, at least it's more covered,
(01:12:47):
I should say.
Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
See you, guys, thank you for listening to mother nos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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of those subjects at the time of publication. If you
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