October 2, 2025 • 46 mins
Kyle is joined by actor, Spice Girls enthusiast, and fellow coffee aficionado Dylan O’Brien to talk core memories, career pivots, and the chaos of balancing blockbusters with indies. The two dive into Dylan’s transition from Teen Wolf and The Maze Runner to Twinless and the art of playing not one but two completely different characters in the same film. Don’t miss Kyle and Dylan unpack the importance of infusing your milk and challenge each other to a game of Reviews for Two where a one-star review can win five stars for delivery.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are we even do? What are we even doing?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I mean I was still of the age where that
was there was negative light shit on that, you know
what I mean, what, how are you forty nine?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Fucking yeah? You damn good forty nine? Fuck? I feel
bad now. No, I'm thirty four. I just hear four. Yeah, yeah,
I can think you're right right because you started really young.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It was definitely still yeah bringing up I think negative
connotation to being sensitive.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know, I don't know in terms of you on
that side. The sensitive side seemed to me to be
pretty pretty comfortable going out there. I mean, you go out, yeah,
I guess, Yeah, that's a cool way. But I go
out yeah, no, you do well?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, No. It's been something I feel like that I've
personally been observing, like in my own way about myself,
I guess, and not only like accepting, but in uh
and like feeling good about you know. It's funny because
I mean when you talk about twin lists like, uh,
you know, which is I think a lot of these
conversations surrounding sensitivity, maybe for myself personally, have happened because
(01:12):
of this movie, maybe and because someone described to me
just me as a very sensitive performance, and I was like, well,
I'm a very sensitive person.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Right, makes sense to me?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I don't know, I just think that I certainly
still you know, even like I think all my friends
that I grew up with they probably have issues with that,
and I know the men and my family have issues
with that. And there's such a positive connotation to the word.
There's so many versions of like being you know, sensitive
towards you know, things around you and to other people.
(01:42):
And I don't know, I feel like it was always
defined as being like you're sensitive, You're right, you know,
you can't take a joke or you can't you know
what I mean. It's almost like strictly defined as being
that version of it, which I.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Mean, I feel like it's an emotional thing like intuition
and evan which is super young, but at any age
really as a man, to let go and to allow
yourself to feel and to feeling too, feeling is good, yeah,
you know, I mean that's what we do, right, Yeah,
And because I always find myself going you know, that's
(02:15):
that was something that I just like really put away.
Were you trained to at that age?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And what a barbaric thing to be like a human
trained to uh not feel you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, it's very strange. Was there a moment like when
you were because you started pretty young, was there a
moment like this is what I wanted to do? This
is my uh this yes or something? Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I did kind of have an aha moment because I
didn't grow up doing it. I didn't grow up acting,
but I grew up loving movies, and I grew up
with your parents who love movies.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
My dad is a crew member too. He is a camera.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Operator right right with one parent who worked on movie
sets or TV sets, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And did you visit I mean was that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like really not that often?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Actually I remember this one time I was like putting
the background on an episode of Law and Order SVU
because he was working. We were living in Jersey and
he was working on that show. That's like how he
made the leap to operator?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Was that show? And I remember, anyway, go ahead, remember
what I wonder if he was he was the operator
when I was working. Oh my god, I know that
would be funny, fascinating. I got to ask him. Actually
I didn't him. I was coming to meet you today.
Let's ask him now. So maybe we have the answer
by the end. Oh, very good.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, But it's really funny actually because any sort of
it was a really shy kid, because I'm also quite
goofy though, and like I like to be silly and
goof around. I love that, and I was certainly a
creative kid. But so I think paired with being shy
people do you ever get people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Like being like, you're not shy? I think it's just
assumed you're an actress. Oh you must loved And I'm like,
I just told a story about being sensitive and not
wanting to and hiding that for as long as possible,
and then suddenly realizing at a certain age's not that long.
Go to be quite honest, that that's what you need.
That's what you're supposed to do, so to find ourselves,
(04:05):
you know, kind of shy kids, introverted kids wanting to
be actors is weird to me, right, I still don't
know the answer. I don't know why. Yeah, it's interesting.
Something may well because it's I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I grapple with so many things that come with being
an actor all the time. That is the reason that
I didn't pursue it necessarily because but then there's the
soul of it I really connect to, and I really
am like stoked by, you know, my fire. It gets
my fire going, I guess because I really care about
those things. I think I really like feel deeply that's
something I feel deeply for other people like, and I
(04:38):
feel deeply for stories, and I connect to sort of
I don't know, I guess this.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Language of you know, receiving people's stories.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Always did as a kid, you know, so movies are
always so I have so many impactful memories of films,
and so yeah, I think there's there's certainly a correlation.
But then there's this whole other side of it that
can be quite difficult if you're if you are have
an introverted yeah, type of sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I think it so works because as an introvert, you're
a good listener. But I always feel like, but I've
been always been a pretty good listener. Yeah, happier on
that side of things, you know, And and I think
as an actor, I think that's really that's pretty much
just listening and reacting is really much what it is.
But to also be able to have the I don't
know what it is, like an opening or a channel.
(05:26):
So that stuff gets in, does the stuff, and then
it comes back out again and you're kind of the
calm do it for this interchange, you know, And it's
when I watch you, I go because you you come
up there, you can do menace so well, but you
combine it with like there's a vulnerability at the same time. Sure,
that makes sense, and to be able to put those
(05:48):
two together so you're not just one or the other,
I think is I mean, I'm thinking of like The
Outfit a good example. You know, you have these moments
where you're like and you know, you like come in
and you're like this, and you know, hey, hey, and
then just for a moment, there's just a moment across
you where it's like, you know, there's like there's like
a tenderness, you know what I mean. You know that
to me is interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Thanks, Yeah, it's funny you bring up the well the
Outfit in general. I think you are the first person
to see that movie and we have a plaque for you.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Dam thank you for bringing that because I felt, you know,
I felt like I had an obligation really, as you know,
just to crack that open for the first time.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, it was, and I actually all appreciate it. No, really,
I really love that film. No, I really appreciate that.
It's funny you talk about vulnerability. It's so interesting because
going back to the shyness thing, the sensitive thing, I
think I've always been so much more comfortable on camera
displaying vulnerability because I'm already there, Like, I'm quite vulnerable
in front of the camera, right, do you ever do
(06:48):
because that resonated with you only recently.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Honestly, I've always felt a little bit like and again,
I still I fight that fight, but but I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Because I know and and you bring up that character
for me, which is really interesting because he's kind of
this bombastic sort of like kind of you know, you
know he's the boss's son. Yeah, you know, he's a gangster.
But like I kind of it was sort of I
felt really comfortable in the role because so much of
the point of the character is that he's really like
(07:18):
not cut out for those things. You know, it's all
a show. Yeah, and he's actually he's he's not really
the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know. Yeah, that's tough to walk that, you know
what I mean without telegraphing it. Well, that's yes, thanks
And appreciate that. Yeah, I liked I like that a lot.
Very cool. Yeah, well, thanks for being on. We got
the intro.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Take my dad really quick, sotect him. Okay, you better
not edit a word out of this thing. Waxing poetic.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We are this is such a beautiful thing. We welcome,
Welcome to our show. What are we do? Camera? You're here, Yeah,
you're you're here. Here, don't look, don't look. It's a surprise.
This is where I sit down with your favorite actors, creatives, musicians,
and we uh people that are basically stirring things up,
and we talk about creativity, ambition, social media. We just
get weird together in a good way. And today, ladies
(08:14):
and gentlemen, actor, former movie kid, I want to talk
about this eight two six, Oh my god, yeah we
we we went deep. Pioneer of teen dystopia, I was
never the pioneers, pioneers and twinles start. We've already talked
about that. Dylan O'Brien, I'm really happy to have you here.
I'm really thrilled to be And now we're gonna cut
this and we're gonna go into the stuff that we
(08:35):
already talking about. Perfect. Wait, did I just ruin it? Hey, Dad,
did you quick find out what he says? Because the
only reason I bring that up because it's a it's
another it's a moment. It was a learning moment for me.
It was a terror moment, a moment of terror. I
don't know if you ever had this. So I'm on
the show. I'm doing this first time Long Order, and
I've been you know, I've been working for a while,
(08:55):
and I'm feeling pretty confident. And I get to the
I get to the set and I've I've got, uh,
you know, pretty good monologue that I have to do,
long monologue. So I came to the set, right and
so and I'm have the monologue.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, And I'm going to always ask if you were,
if you what length of time were you on the
show for?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Was this one? Just one?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Was it was an episode? Okay, okay, a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Anyway, So I'm doing get hair and makeup and go
to the set and we're gonna just I figure we're
gonna rehearse and block it and then I'll have some time.
Oh it's stickle of law and Order. So I get
this and we kind of block it, rehearsed it. Chris Christmalne.
He's alreay sitting he's like reading the paper, like yes,
he's like he doesn't he checked out, Like he's chilled down.
He's chilled. He's got two lines or something. So it's
(09:36):
you know, really about me, and we block it and
they said, okay, five minutes actually blocked it. I was like, yeah,
that's not gonna This is not good. It's not good.
And I went into that extreme panic mode and suddenly
you know when your blood flows into your brain and
and I got I got the words, but it was like,
never again will I come to a set with the
kind of cocky attitude that I know what I'm doing.
(09:57):
It's like, right, and I got all the lines down. Well,
it's a it's a weird things. Were they quite strict
on They were pretty strict on. Yeah, they're right.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Starting to get to you by the end of the day. Yeah,
we're going to both be raving lunatics. It's a mad.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Through my veins.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Were they quite strict with lines on that show? Yeah,
it's I mean, it's it's interesting because you have to
first of all, nobody has one singular way of approaching it,
like from our standpoint, right, and then and no set
is one ecosystem either.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
They're all so different, like different. Yeah, so Geene wealth
things you started with. Was that like word perfect or was.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It more like no, you know, it's going back since
those days. You know, I had so much fortune. I
think in like trust with that being an asset that
I would bring and it would be welcomed.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, I mean I think I just it cracks me
up in hindsight, I guess because they could have so
easily been like fuck off you nineteen year old, which
there was a little bit of that, but like I
was so coming from a place of you know, not
ego at all, of just like really caring and being
(11:16):
like would I wouldn't it be like this year maybe
or just I don't know, or just like this, this
doesn't these don't sound like people.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
This isn't good enough. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think I've always had those instincts and have always
communicated them, whether or not they were welcomed.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's such a good thing. It's courageous, I think, and
also smart. I'm thinking to it, looking back, I am
did you with James working with James Sweeney's Yeah, did you?
Did you write the script? Together.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Did you know he wrote the script and it was
so beautifully I loved the great structure saying those words. Yeah,
these were words that I really wanted to say. For
the most part, they were very specific cadences.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And you know, he's just, he's just he's a brilliant writer.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So cadence is key, you know, And in specially something
like this where everything is so intentional and you really
want to you know, he really was crafting a thing, right,
so you you so much more I think inclined to,
at least for me, follow the vision when it is
so deliberately intentional. And he's just he's a filmmaker in
(12:22):
that right, And you know, and sometimes I think the
script is certainly a thing that has gone far by
the wayside a little bit in these days in the
process of filmmaking, right, it's like almost one of the afterthoughts,
whereas I'm sure decades ago, it's you know, decades and decadecades.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Ago, which centuries almost to be honest, let's just go
back and I think you said situational. It's different. You know,
you walk into a set and is it really super
strict or are they open to stuff? And how confident
Are they in what they've created? You know?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, and you got to be I mean, your own
in the words at the end of the day. So
they need to at least hear you out. And if
everybody's coming from a place of like on the day, yeah,
what's feeling the best, what's sounding the best, let's try things.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Best idea wins, then great. If nobody is coming.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
From a place of like strictly ego and like, you know, power,
you know, I think that's when things can get sticky.
I've been very lucky to not experience many spaces.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's so nice. Yeah, that's so nice. I think when
I started, it was pretty strict. But I also feel like,
you know, I started out in theater. I started out
with plays. I mean, and you have text. The text
is everything, so you're like, get you get kind of
kind of conditioned.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, you know, Well now it's it's kind of like
you can't you can't hold us to that necessarily if
you just wrote the script yesterday, you know what I
mean as much? Yeah, I agree, you know, And I
mean there's so many things now we're processes backwards, and
I feel like for myself, at least I prefer to,
you know, pass on that experience, especially the everybody. I
(13:59):
think so many people ask if, like I want to
be in a you know, like a super Marvel movie
or yeah. I think that's just like a common question
in the last decade, you know, would you ever do
a Marvel And you know, I nobody asked me that
they're not coming for you for that role.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I need they got the gray haired guy or the
calico here this mone I'm doing Calico.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right now, be like a cat.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You could, but you won't know what the script is.
They'll just be like, you know, you're.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
The cat guy guy, and we need you as the
cat guy for ten years.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and you're not good yet.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, And you don't know anything else other than you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Need to be cat guy.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And we can also put you in any other Cat
guy can be.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
In any other movie ten years or twelve years.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And we can call upon cat guy to be in
any other movie at any time, and you have to
show up.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
There's a certain restriction there, there's a certain expectation there.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, but then there's no material. They're like, oh, also,
here's the release date, and then we'll write the script.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Are you in?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Sure, And what do I do for the rest of
my life? Yeah, it was when I started. So the
first I did. Dune was my first movie. I signed
a contract. When was your first movie? First movie? It
was back in how Well the color film had just
come out, and uh, I was twenty three.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
And how do you feel about them bastardizing it?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I mean with shallow may I loved it. Actually, I
really enjoyed it. I did. I loved it. It was good.
It was good, but okay, I love where you're going
twenty three. But I had signed for five Dunes, So
there was I signed for five Dunes, you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Know, and is it echoed in my head to sign?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But it didn't, not as walking. So that was really cool, Cadence.
That's that's the key, Caden. It just drops you right
into a character.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah yeah, I think so you signed for five sign
for five, but we did one?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yes, right, you know, so that was it. It could
have been it was like that ten year I was
looking at ten years or twelve years, I don't know,
and they signed.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Ye. Yeah, you thought it was going to be Oh
that was it?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah? Yeah, that's so interesting. I could live in Seattle
and you were twenty three and that was your well, fuck,
that's the way to start. What a way to start.
And then you know, but I got connected with David Lynch,
which was the best thing that ever came out of that.
Of course our friendship. That's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Wait, so where did you did you? I'm interviewing Kyle,
because where were you at of school at that point?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Where did you go to school? Yeah? So I went
to school. I went trained at the University of Washington.
They had a really good drama theater school there, but
trained to do repertory theater. That was going to be
my thing. And then they came to Seattle and they
cast me there. The casting agent came up from lah
They were doing a search. They weren't coming up there
for me, right, they came to Seattle. I said, i'
let's meet some guys and try and find this character
(16:47):
person to play this character of Paul and auditions. It
must have been quite a wide search. Now they went, Yeah,
it was one of those they were trying to find
an unknown yea. And I said, they found, you know,
complete unknown. It was a great ride. And I was
too young to rereadly know anything. Sure, and it started
me off. Sure, Yeah, so it was a good It
(17:09):
was a good way to begin with James hot, So
is this the only one? The first thing? No, if
we worked with James before first one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
He had made one future film prior, very micro budgeted
film that he also wrote, directed, and started.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, I have a feeling you're gonna do more with him.
I don't know, it just feels good. Connection is really strong.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, we've we really we've become great friends and
we really love collaborating together.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
It was a really special experience. I'm thinking about Cadence
and character, and I said, so you're you got the two.
You have the two characters you have to play Roman
and Rocky. How did you drop into those bodies? Was
there a trigger? Was it just like, what's funny?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You bring up Cadence and I'll throw a voice in
here too. I mean, the first thing I ever heard
in my head when I read the script was Roman.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I just heard him so clearly. I just knew him
so deeply.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Where I hadn't even discovered kind of why yet, but
I just knew him, you know, And that's a really
special thing. I think at this point I had been
doing this long enough to really pay attention to that
and so I really was like, Okay, whoa this could
be I really love this and I really love this guy.
And then when it got to the rocky stuff, also,
it's unfolding for me as the film unfolds, you know,
(18:25):
so I'm like, I'm like, whoa, whoa, you know, and
then I get to Rocky too, and I'm like, wait,
this is lightning, and you know, I'm like, and such
a different kid and such a different rhythm. I could
already see him floating, you know. I mean, this one's
interesting goes back to the vulnerability thing, right, which you
get to display some with him. But that was a
(18:48):
you know, I'm not sort of or I don't think
that I'm kind of a rocky like, you know, just infectious,
uberly infectious, confident, can walk into.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
A room fire. That's a truth detector. Hang on, I'm
like wired, you put me up a heart monitor. Guys
are good.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
But yeah, it's it's uh, it's so it's interesting that
you bring that up, because it was sort of like
voice and rhythm dialogue where my way, my initial ways
in so many years ago when I first saw the script,
And that's funny. When we're I got called by the
editor of this film, the slowest actor he's ever edited,
and any an he meant with how deliberately I would
(19:37):
speak all of my lines as Roman, and I was like,
I feel for you and I'm sorry, but I was
being truthful.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
No, it came across as absolutely that. I appreciate that
fic absolutely that and I feel like that those are
the kind of things that you can you know, you
can make a conscious choice or you can let what
because the same thing happens to me. You're read a scripting,
like suddenly you're like the transformation is happening suddenly. Sometimes
(20:05):
externally you see oh I know what shoes he wears
right right, Or it's internally it's like, oh this is
with his sisters. But it can be anything.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, but you have to trust that certainly, and it
starts to like turn into this.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, it affects everything, you know. Yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I feel like I've learned so much about myself just
even by doing what I do.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I've been so grateful for that. Yeah, you know, that's
part of the journey, which is Yeah, Like if I
think of you as a performer, I think balanced, slow
and balanced, slow and balanced. The one head line, the
line that I loved. It was not the brightest bullet
tool and the brightest tool. Yeah, it's a great line.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I think that was the scariest thing about the part
for me is sort of towing an authentic line of
I never looked at this character as not intelligent, but
here were these things in the script where you know,
he kind of like not knowing a lemon from a line,
and like, you know, there's like a few things to
obviously sort of shed light on his shelteredness or experience,
(21:11):
you know. And and and in the way that he
looks at him he sees himself, he understands.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
In the shadow of his brother always right.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So I think those were the important things to get
from these things, but also like I was really nervous
to execute them in an authentic way, you know what
I mean, because obviously this wasn't like a broad comedy movie.
We were really on the same page of like balancing
this dark comedy and this but this really human authenticity
(21:41):
with this emotional through line. So it's not like I
could like, you know, be like.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wink wink, I know what's happening. Yeah, well it was
because he delivered it, and I was like and you go, oh, yeah,
and then you're like, wait, that's not coore. It takes
the audience.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I guess sure, you get a few steps down the road.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, on a second. Yeah, but it points up exactly
kind of where he is. He's trying, but what's missing
now that his brother isn't there to like help him out. Yeah,
And it was like it was like an unexpectedly poignant moment.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well, it's so it's so honest, it's you know, and
and yeah, I think it's such a powerful little Again,
it's such a beautiful example of James's ability as a
writer because it's such it's such specificity with the perfect thing,
you know, and and it tells the emotional it gives
but it gives you such context of this guy's life
(22:39):
and where and what he's what he's lost and what
he's going through right now, and you know, and it's yeah,
it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I love that. So I'm looking back here and I
see what he got over the two things. One is
and this is an expression you're going to have to
help me understand. Okay, so what is a white boy
of the month. You have to see how I did that.
I waited for him to yip. That's a that's called acting,
and that's that's how we do it here. These it's
you know, as a certain age. I'm a certain age,
(23:06):
and I don't know some of these expressions. So yeah,
but I feel more I'm I'm kind of closer to
your age. I gotta be honest. See how I waited
an old soul. He's an old soul. So what is
I don't know really what a white boy of the
month is. I guess it is a it is a
Oh that's good. Yeah, so what is the Let's pretend
we don't know because I don't really.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Know, so I'll just yeah, let's venture guesses.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah yeah, Ken, Maya will tell us what we should
what it should be, what it really is things.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I guess it is a meaty thing I go to.
Is a you know, selected male of a calendar month.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Which month would this be?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And it can be any month? Okay, I assume and
I believe you know it would have to be Caucasian male.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yes, that's good. That's it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You're not chiming.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
We're going to complete each other. Since as we didn't,
Maya correct what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
But there's gotta be more. Yeah, what's the element? That's
what I want to elemility.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Hello, well, yes, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Are you delicious? You firing snack ability back corner?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
That is so funny.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah. They need to have a certain non threatening us
to them all sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
We cover that with that.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Nowadays it's a soft boy somebody who all terminology today.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, putting soft boy though, doesn't that come with an
element of and I'm genuinely asking this question, doesn't that
come with an element of manipulation?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
By the month?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Is I don't like that?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Just more wholesome?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well, this is someone who generally cares about someone. You know.
He's going, you're too pure? I am, I am pure? Yeah,
that is true. It goes back to the eleven year
old boy seeing that charred arm. So we conclude from this,
I think I said snack ability. Let's just go with that.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, and we've decided this month it's you guys together
coming back together. It's Dylan and Art like this.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Did you say I'm coming back? Where did I go? Oh?
You mean on the.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Show coming back as you're one of the.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
White boys of them? Went oh?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Like for when this was created. Yes, you were like,
when was this created? The twenty fourteen my come here
mid my Heyday? Baby? Oh? Was that was that the
YouTube show?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What was no my YouTube video?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want to talk about
movie Kid too? I've checked, I'll checked a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
All I've done is research there, You've done a ton
of research. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, I love the I love the lip sync. The
lip sync and then kind of being discovered and I
was like, that's very that's very you know bold, Like
how old were you when you do that? When I
made that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think I was fifteen, Okay,
so much Son's seventeen, and there's there's definitely a play,
a play and an understanding of what you're doing even
at that age.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's interesting for me to reflect on because I think
in a business where people are always going to kind
of tell you don't change, but they put a negative
connotation on it, like a you know, they'll be like,
don't get big headed, don't become an asshole. I heard
that a lot when I was young, Like it's a
weird thing to hear because you also need to evolve.
But then you're like, wait, is that bad? If I do,
(26:30):
or people going to think I'm an asshole. So it's
it's kind of a mind fuck for nineteen year old me.
I guess this is my personal journey. It's funny. And
then I'll look at things like that, like the that
video and I go oh, I've always like kind of
had the same little takes.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, that was me.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean that was like a trend, and trends are
now such a thing obviously, but like singing the Pokemon,
I remember that just being like an it's so god
it's like prehistoric now its first generation YouTube and like
singing the Pokemon or no sorry, I'm sorry the Spice Girls. Yeah,
song was like a trend on like first generation YouTube,
(27:07):
and my little instinct like whatever funny or not, I
wanted to make it and then end it really quickly
with like this funny thing, like I didn't see what
was so funny about just also doing that thing that
everyone you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I'm like, we'll lip sinking to the whole song, like
what does that do? And it should be something else
like twisted.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, so it was a weird I don't know example
of I look back and I'm like, oh, I see
like my sense of humor and creativity, it's kind of
always been the same.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And I mean it's a little story. Yeah, thank bang
like that, you know what I mean, it's not just
like one note. Sure you add something to the end.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, A little little yeah, a little yeah, something little
spice there.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's good, a little spice. I didn't even
mean it even mean right into it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But you do love coffee. I do.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I do, but I only do one coffee a day,
so it's like not like an obsessive coffee drinker, but
I do love coffee.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So and I'm very specific about my coffe. Yeah, we
talk about that. Yeah, I do. I do. I do
because I do six cups today. Six. Yeah, you heard
it right, six. Worried about you, worried about me. I'm
going to the bathroom now. Yeah. You gotta the hard
thing when you get older. It's like you add to
the progress. You know what I'm saying. And you told
me it was French press. Is your preference? Yes, yes,
(28:38):
I used to be like a real cappuccino guy with
the thing and gradually just become my father where you
just sort of grind it up put the water on
it and drink it, shove it down. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And do you so you like the process about it most?
It's not like a taste preference thing, because I find
the French press can be one of the more diluted
ways of interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh really really, Oh my god? Okay, all right, fine
ladies and gentlemen go to black for just a minute
and we're back. Yeah you look okay?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is it so not?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I measure it out, I weigh it. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
because you can make your own you can strength control.
Yeah yeah, I like it stronger. But how do you do?
How do you do you so you get the whole
being you need?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Like, so I have like a it's called a six
cup camper bioletti, but it's not like six cups of coffee.
So I've always been confused about that. When you first
said six cups, I was like, is it actually six?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I had to measure it. It's well, that's a good question,
you know what I mean? Yeah? Is it a cup
or is it like a little you know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
So it's it's it's the espresso bletti, like you know
those camper ones that have been forever. You throw it
on the stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, when you separate it just kind of that. I
don't know, you throw I throw the espresso grounds in there.
I like Italy coffee.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think great, Yeah, I love that when you pop
that can y.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
And then sometimes it implodes. One will implode on you
if you get a bad one.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No, you ever do that? What happens? No?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I g open, You're very excited and like it like
kind of sprays all over you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Really, oh God explodes? What happened? A little indigestion? Yeah,
that coffee. That's what happens with coffee. You get indigestion.
That's one of thing.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like is coffee good for us? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I think in moderation, I always go to moderation. You're like,
it's fine and moderation, but I don't do it in moderation.
That's the problem, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And then okay, the weird thing I do is with
my my little milk situation.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, you do have milk.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, So I'll toss a little oat milk in uh,
in a in like a pot, and I'll start kind
of I'll throw a fire and I'll start a little
eating it up, brought it up, and then I'll I'll
chop up some ginger root and like turmeric and a
little cinnamon stick, and I'll throw it in there and
I'll simmer the milk with that as my coffee's growing up.
(31:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Sometimes I'll drink a little honey in
there too. Yeah, feel a little sexy in the morning.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
My sticky fingers. That's good. Yeah, you know, you know,
what the hell?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And then oh yeah, so then by the time the
coffee is ready, I'll stop the simmer.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'll, you know, and it gives a little nice, little
yeah flavor.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And then I throw.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I put a little like collagen powder in my mix.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Things on on whether or not that does anything.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I don't know. I mean, how can it hurt? Right,
that's a really big way of looking at me. I
like to think that I do bone broths for that
for the college. I love bone broth. Yeah, I have
a big soup maker. I really love making.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
No really, yeah, I went through a huge bone broth
making face like a bizarre one.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah. How much time do we have, photographer, I've turned
into a week turned to a cooking show. I'm comfortable here,
I'm comfortable speaking with you. Oh good, But I could
be very not. Yeah, you get what happened. When you
get quiet, you get uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
No, not even but like I'll feel quiet inside. Yeah,
loud and angry.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like to bel
I'm more curious about. So tell me how I tell
me how it all works. You know what's Yeah, what's
happening in there? What's the sure? Sure? What's bubbling up?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah? No, I think it's more just feeling like alienated,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yes. When I think of you, I think there is
there's because there's always something in there's there's a there's
a fire in there. Maybe that's going. Maybe that's what
it is. I mean, you're squinting at me. I know
I'm in a different I know you go. You moved
when you're you're like, I have a plan I did
(32:43):
when you sat down. I did want to say, Dylan
old broh and has ever never done that for you?
Like to Conan O'Bryan shout out, no, no, oh, yeah,
that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That was a reference. That's what I'm talking. No one
has ever done it, Okay, no one has done it
for you. You've been the first to watch the outfit and
to introduce.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Me with that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But then we we were gelling so much the top
he forgot you forgot, I forget about through the cards
out the don't even talk them over here there everywhere cards?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Oh god, these are.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You just talk about?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
White? No one cares cares about it? Did your dad? Oh? Yeah,
what are you saying? You don't? He said? And who?
He said? Who the hell is that? My father goes,
what does he do? I love your dad. I love
your dad.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
He's he'll put it. He'll get it now. Once I
point to, he thinks something because he knows a lot
of crew. Usually I'm texting him about crew. Oh my
dad's a crew members.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah yeah, when we come back the game, Oh yeah,
show me your Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Well I decided to change. And it's funny because you
he took separate bathroom breaks.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But weird because I found the shirt in the bathroom.
I just I brought this today. Did you if you're Italian?
I am a quarter Italian? Are you? Yeah? See see
you're from New Jersey. That's yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
What's tell me about your shirt?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
This is film film, film critic, anybody? Because I have
our friends. They love to say and I love it
when they say me too film film going down to
the film then.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it's it's it's the way that that word should
be said by everyone.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, I think we have a response from Dylan's father, Ye,
law and order. Yeah, update on this U d Okay,
So you go live now.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I said, I said the actor he goes, oh the
with to ease Kyle maccoth.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That would be a no. I didn't even know he
was on sv AH and that's okay. So he didn't
study miam IMDb page.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And you've done such an I sort of love that
searching job that it's making us all feel.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Bad that we didn't do it. I just did a
couple of things.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Like your episode of SVU is something I.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Would love to very deep into the arm though. That
would have been awesome. Anyway, if you want to start, Okay,
I'm ready, we're back. We've got the game. It's just
called reviews for two.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
My cards called Dylan's Card, Dylan's card featuring Kyle film reviews,
Kyle film review.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, do you want to go first? We both see Okay, Okay,
I've decided I'm gonna set the scene. We I've decided
to collect some of them I'm reading some of the
most outlandish and hilarious reviews from some of our recent
and not so recent films. So these are these are
actual reviews.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And so we're both guessing these all these film reviews
from the others films.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
So one of us will read a review from the
other's movie, and that person must guess, must guess which
one is from spuck Bones. Shall we travel into the
world of revws. I love that one too. I know
we've all said the dad is hot, but oh, Phil,
I know this one. You do? Yeah inside out? Yeah, yeah,
(36:19):
how did you know? It's well it was a surprise
suddenly suddenly Yeah, I was like, he's absolutely not hot,
you know what I mean. But I was like, what
is happening?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So it stuck out to you because it was like
really weird interesting. Yeah, Okay, I really don't have faith
in myself for this.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You're gonna be great. You're gonna be great. There can
never be ready. There can never be two redheads in
one film. There can never be two red heads in
one film. This is from a review of a review. Yeah,
there can never be that can never be two redheads
(37:00):
one film. I don't know say it with film at
the end. There can never be two redheads in one film.
Got it?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, I'm gonna give your second one. So that's what
Evil Coop was doing during the twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
That's an easy it's a layup. Yeah, yeah, that's true. No,
that's true. That's the return twin Peaks of Return, that's
firewalk with me. That's Twin Peaks. It's gonna be a
little left of center. I think. So that's what he's referencing.
Oh wait, so that's what Evil Coop was doing years.
It's Oh, it's about something else.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I know. You were really funny because you're really confident
in the game.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
But it's what it's referencing, is what you're saying. But
hold on a second. I think you on tablet. Yeah
what Jill and O'Brien, you did what you could baby girl.
What Maybe it's a slate.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
It will probably help sticks.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Oh I love that. That's very nice again, Oh, very
nice one.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Oh you want to do the same time three?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
You did what you did what you could Baby Girl.
First of all, it sounds like it's dissing me. You
did what you could, Baby Girl for the Maze Runner.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You just gave it to me, Yeah, I misread.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I was supposed to read a sentence above that, and
I said the answer the maize.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Runner, you know what, you know, what's a bummer. But
I'm really happy that that happened because it was funny.
I was about to guess that. But it's not like
I knew.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I was just gonna. I was like, I need to
answer something.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And I only really have one movie. You know, I
played a kid who you know, I just really wanted
to get out by that maze and everyone's like, no, no, no,
We've like kind of set up a whole society works
here and I'm like, na, there's more for us out there.
And then like I lead this charge to get out
and there's a lot of collateral damage, carnage, and uh
(39:18):
but I survive, and so that, you know, debatably, I
have a you know, it's one could be angry at
that person. You know, we had it fine, right and
then the maze yeah yeah yeah? And then I was like,
you really wanted to get out and then now all
these kids are dead?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Do you want to give your second one another think?
Or do you want me to go to your third one?
So that's what evil Coop was doing there in twenty
five years he was in.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I was thinking it was Showgirls? What that could have been? Really,
that's the funny answer. It is the funny. I don't
know the real answer. No, I don't know. Enlighten me
the Flintstones. Oh there you go. Yeah, we never have
guessed it, I know. But it's sort of interesting because
it reverenge of twenty five years and of course Winston's
is you know pre story?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yes, that is.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That is funny and it was fun to do about that.
Was that a blast? It was a blast. It was
a blast.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I've always just thought about driving thears.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I'm giving this five stars. So my girlfriend sees that
I watched it. Okay, this is a movie? Yes, whoa
all right? What short film? Also? Well, short film? I
was about to say, I was about to qualify.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I think we got to count that for me getting
that though, because the reason I asked that was because
obviously I was thinking that that was the answer.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Right, does everyone agree? Right? Okay, that's good?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Okay, I too would fall in love with young Kyle
McLaughlin almost immediately after meeting him.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Stumped, I wrote this one, actually, well yeah, blue Bonet yeah. Ooh,
well I was young. It was the only time I
was young. You got I have people here to help me.
Oh my god, wait, I feel good. That's the last one. Okay,
I got on. This my last one, right, yeah, this
is my last one. Yeah yeah, I've really failed. Girl
(41:11):
that funeral b O b Bob? Is this this be
the last maze runner? No? No, girl that funeral Bob
Bob meaning like, oh wait, well, I don't know why
I was thinking. It was like, bring your own beer.
(41:31):
That's b y o everybody. But this is the short
version of that. So give it to me again now
that I'm ready, here we go, Here we go, Girl,
that funeral Bob.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
What's the punctuation.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well that's what I was gonna say. This is there
a comma after funeral?
Speaker 4 (41:47):
It's nothing big, it's something big, like.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Oh okay, Bob.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I really know because I was thinking, like Bob evil Bob.
I don't know, we are We're never going to be
on a game show it for like one thing, and
not even really that No girl, that funeral Bob. Like
Girl that funeral Bob. I think maybe girl, like they're
calling the bob a funeral bob. Oh no, you saw it. No,
(42:15):
I just saw like you helping me? And is it Twinless?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yes? Oh so I didn't think, well, I do you
think that twinless?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Wow? I feel like an idiot now because it's so
obviously the answer. But I didn't think that Twinless would
be on here.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But okay, yeah, yeah, I mean the funeral Bob, but
it is a funeral Bob. I literally have no clue
why anyone would think this is a bad movie. That's
the that's the It's not even literally that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Because I have so many that I could.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I literally have no clue why anyone would think this
is a bad movie. Wholeheartedly agree with this take. I
consider this film the masterpiece. Now I've really thrown you.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yes, I wasn't to say it's not show Girls. It
is sure girl show Girls. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Do you win if you said it's not the thing
that's the answer.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I think you both won.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Everybody wins and play we played together. We played together
to Redheads.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh right, let's go back to that one.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
See you still like to play? The game is still
cattle Lake. Yes, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Boys and girls, that's it and sticks.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yes, of course, what's next? What's what? What? What? What's happening?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
So you want to I've got nothing next?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
If anything?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Actually I got nothing. I got nothing nothing. I've been
me too. I meet it with my whole heart, and
I was like, I don't really know where to go.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
You want to come and hang out?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Essentially, I would love to do that. I'm probably gonna
take some time. I do have a film coming out
in January. It's called Send Help. It is a Sam
Raimi direct It's me and Rachel McAdams and I love
very talented, very love Sam, and.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
You love really curious love Sam. Rachel is really she's great.
I've just never met her, but always admired. She's the coolest. Yeah,
and Sam is awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, It's a really funny experience, and I am looking
forward to seeing the movie.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I'm kind of like it's wacky romantic kind of thing
or wacky come what.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Kind of Hopefully it's like Sam, you know, kind of
doing Sam again in a way. And I think that's
that was like the intense mind it. It's a cool
studio film, original concepts okay, hopefully wacky, weird okay, bloody fun, twisty.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Right, bloody fun. That sounds very good and something that
you really enjoyed, just bloody yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
But other than that, existentially, no, I don't know where
I go from here.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Taking some time that's a good thing. Times up and
we came in just right at the right time. Perfect. Really,
I felt like we took forever. The audience will be
the judge of that. Lady, Kids of all ages, thanks
for joining. I don't know if we actually answered the
question of what are we even doing? But we had
a good time. It's really really a pleasure. Wait, that's it? No,
(45:09):
no back card? Is it? Oh? This one? No? What
are we doing? Yeah? What are we making? Shows?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Called?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah? I love that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I'm finding that out on the outro.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah yeah, I've been holding it in front of your
face the whole time. I'm listening to you God, and
he's believing me. Oh, it was really fun. I really
enjoyed it. I'm so happy to hear that. Good, big,
big fan of yours. I really love you. You've always
had great favors. Really, thank you. This it's so Funshush guys, Yeah, yeah,
but honest, honestly.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, no, truly this was a blast cool. I hope
we didn't annoy you guys.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh, I hope we did. We're annoyed. What Are We
Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis
Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created
and produced by Full Picture Productions, featuring music by Yata
and artwork by Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast,
(46:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I mean I was still of the age where that
was there was negative light shit on that, you know
what I mean, what, how are you forty nine?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Fucking yeah? You damn good forty nine? Fuck? I feel
bad now. No, I'm thirty four. I just hear four. Yeah, yeah,
I can think you're right right because you started really young.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It was definitely still yeah bringing up I think negative
connotation to being sensitive.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know, I don't know in terms of you on
that side. The sensitive side seemed to me to be
pretty pretty comfortable going out there. I mean, you go out, yeah,
I guess, Yeah, that's a cool way. But I go
out yeah, no, you do well?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, No. It's been something I feel like that I've
personally been observing, like in my own way about myself,
I guess, and not only like accepting, but in uh
and like feeling good about you know. It's funny because
I mean when you talk about twin lists like, uh,
you know, which is I think a lot of these
conversations surrounding sensitivity, maybe for myself personally, have happened because
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of this movie, maybe and because someone described to me
just me as a very sensitive performance, and I was like, well,
I'm a very sensitive person.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Right, makes sense to me?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I don't know, I just think that I certainly
still you know, even like I think all my friends
that I grew up with they probably have issues with that,
and I know the men and my family have issues
with that. And there's such a positive connotation to the word.
There's so many versions of like being you know, sensitive
towards you know, things around you and to other people.
(01:42):
And I don't know, I feel like it was always
defined as being like you're sensitive, You're right, you know,
you can't take a joke or you can't you know
what I mean. It's almost like strictly defined as being
that version of it, which I.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Mean, I feel like it's an emotional thing like intuition
and evan which is super young, but at any age
really as a man, to let go and to allow
yourself to feel and to feeling too, feeling is good, yeah,
you know, I mean that's what we do, right, Yeah,
And because I always find myself going you know, that's
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that was something that I just like really put away.
Were you trained to at that age?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And what a barbaric thing to be like a human
trained to uh not feel you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, it's very strange. Was there a moment like when
you were because you started pretty young, was there a
moment like this is what I wanted to do? This
is my uh this yes or something? Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I did kind of have an aha moment because I
didn't grow up doing it. I didn't grow up acting,
but I grew up loving movies, and I grew up
with your parents who love movies.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
My dad is a crew member too. He is a camera.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Operator right right with one parent who worked on movie
sets or TV sets, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And did you visit I mean was that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like really not that often?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Actually I remember this one time I was like putting
the background on an episode of Law and Order SVU
because he was working. We were living in Jersey and
he was working on that show. That's like how he
made the leap to operator?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Was that show? And I remember, anyway, go ahead, remember
what I wonder if he was he was the operator
when I was working. Oh my god, I know that
would be funny, fascinating. I got to ask him. Actually
I didn't him. I was coming to meet you today.
Let's ask him now. So maybe we have the answer
by the end. Oh, very good.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, But it's really funny actually because any sort of
it was a really shy kid, because I'm also quite
goofy though, and like I like to be silly and
goof around. I love that, and I was certainly a
creative kid. But so I think paired with being shy
people do you ever get people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Like being like, you're not shy? I think it's just
assumed you're an actress. Oh you must loved And I'm like,
I just told a story about being sensitive and not
wanting to and hiding that for as long as possible,
and then suddenly realizing at a certain age's not that long.
Go to be quite honest, that that's what you need.
That's what you're supposed to do, so to find ourselves,
(04:05):
you know, kind of shy kids, introverted kids wanting to
be actors is weird to me, right, I still don't
know the answer. I don't know why. Yeah, it's interesting.
Something may well because it's I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I grapple with so many things that come with being
an actor all the time. That is the reason that
I didn't pursue it necessarily because but then there's the
soul of it I really connect to, and I really
am like stoked by, you know, my fire. It gets
my fire going, I guess because I really care about
those things. I think I really like feel deeply that's
something I feel deeply for other people like, and I
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feel deeply for stories, and I connect to sort of
I don't know, I guess this.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Language of you know, receiving people's stories.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Always did as a kid, you know, so movies are
always so I have so many impactful memories of films,
and so yeah, I think there's there's certainly a correlation.
But then there's this whole other side of it that
can be quite difficult if you're if you are have
an introverted yeah, type of sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I think it so works because as an introvert, you're
a good listener. But I always feel like, but I've
been always been a pretty good listener. Yeah, happier on
that side of things, you know, And and I think
as an actor, I think that's really that's pretty much
just listening and reacting is really much what it is.
But to also be able to have the I don't
know what it is, like an opening or a channel.
(05:26):
So that stuff gets in, does the stuff, and then
it comes back out again and you're kind of the
calm do it for this interchange, you know, And it's
when I watch you, I go because you you come
up there, you can do menace so well, but you
combine it with like there's a vulnerability at the same time. Sure,
that makes sense, and to be able to put those
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two together so you're not just one or the other,
I think is I mean, I'm thinking of like The
Outfit a good example. You know, you have these moments
where you're like and you know, you like come in
and you're like this, and you know, hey, hey, and
then just for a moment, there's just a moment across
you where it's like, you know, there's like there's like
a tenderness, you know what I mean. You know that
to me is interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Thanks, Yeah, it's funny you bring up the well the
Outfit in general. I think you are the first person
to see that movie and we have a plaque for you.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Dam thank you for bringing that because I felt, you know,
I felt like I had an obligation really, as you know,
just to crack that open for the first time.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, it was, and I actually all appreciate it. No, really,
I really love that film. No, I really appreciate that.
It's funny you talk about vulnerability. It's so interesting because
going back to the shyness thing, the sensitive thing, I
think I've always been so much more comfortable on camera
displaying vulnerability because I'm already there, Like, I'm quite vulnerable
in front of the camera, right, do you ever do
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because that resonated with you only recently.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Honestly, I've always felt a little bit like and again,
I still I fight that fight, but but I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Because I know and and you bring up that character
for me, which is really interesting because he's kind of
this bombastic sort of like kind of you know, you
know he's the boss's son. Yeah, you know, he's a gangster.
But like I kind of it was sort of I
felt really comfortable in the role because so much of
the point of the character is that he's really like
(07:18):
not cut out for those things. You know, it's all
a show. Yeah, and he's actually he's he's not really
the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know. Yeah, that's tough to walk that, you know
what I mean without telegraphing it. Well, that's yes, thanks
And appreciate that. Yeah, I liked I like that a lot.
Very cool. Yeah, well, thanks for being on. We got
the intro.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Take my dad really quick, sotect him. Okay, you better
not edit a word out of this thing. Waxing poetic.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We are this is such a beautiful thing. We welcome,
Welcome to our show. What are we do? Camera? You're here, Yeah,
you're you're here. Here, don't look, don't look. It's a surprise.
This is where I sit down with your favorite actors, creatives, musicians,
and we uh people that are basically stirring things up,
and we talk about creativity, ambition, social media. We just
get weird together in a good way. And today, ladies
(08:14):
and gentlemen, actor, former movie kid, I want to talk
about this eight two six, Oh my god, yeah we
we we went deep. Pioneer of teen dystopia, I was
never the pioneers, pioneers and twinles start. We've already talked
about that. Dylan O'Brien, I'm really happy to have you here.
I'm really thrilled to be And now we're gonna cut
this and we're gonna go into the stuff that we
(08:35):
already talking about. Perfect. Wait, did I just ruin it? Hey, Dad,
did you quick find out what he says? Because the
only reason I bring that up because it's a it's
another it's a moment. It was a learning moment for me.
It was a terror moment, a moment of terror. I
don't know if you ever had this. So I'm on
the show. I'm doing this first time Long Order, and
I've been you know, I've been working for a while,
(08:55):
and I'm feeling pretty confident. And I get to the
I get to the set and I've I've got, uh,
you know, pretty good monologue that I have to do,
long monologue. So I came to the set, right and
so and I'm have the monologue.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, And I'm going to always ask if you were,
if you what length of time were you on the
show for?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Was this one? Just one?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Was it was an episode? Okay, okay, a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Anyway, So I'm doing get hair and makeup and go
to the set and we're gonna just I figure we're
gonna rehearse and block it and then I'll have some time.
Oh it's stickle of law and Order. So I get
this and we kind of block it, rehearsed it. Chris Christmalne.
He's alreay sitting he's like reading the paper, like yes,
he's like he doesn't he checked out, Like he's chilled down.
He's chilled. He's got two lines or something. So it's
(09:36):
you know, really about me, and we block it and
they said, okay, five minutes actually blocked it. I was like, yeah,
that's not gonna This is not good. It's not good.
And I went into that extreme panic mode and suddenly
you know when your blood flows into your brain and
and I got I got the words, but it was like,
never again will I come to a set with the
kind of cocky attitude that I know what I'm doing.
(09:57):
It's like, right, and I got all the lines down. Well,
it's a it's a weird things. Were they quite strict
on They were pretty strict on. Yeah, they're right.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Starting to get to you by the end of the day. Yeah,
we're going to both be raving lunatics. It's a mad.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Through my veins.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Were they quite strict with lines on that show? Yeah,
it's I mean, it's it's interesting because you have to
first of all, nobody has one singular way of approaching it,
like from our standpoint, right, and then and no set
is one ecosystem either.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
They're all so different, like different. Yeah, so Geene wealth
things you started with. Was that like word perfect or was.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It more like no, you know, it's going back since
those days. You know, I had so much fortune. I
think in like trust with that being an asset that
I would bring and it would be welcomed.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, I mean I think I just it cracks me
up in hindsight, I guess because they could have so
easily been like fuck off you nineteen year old, which
there was a little bit of that, but like I
was so coming from a place of you know, not
ego at all, of just like really caring and being
(11:16):
like would I wouldn't it be like this year maybe
or just I don't know, or just like this, this
doesn't these don't sound like people.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
This isn't good enough. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think I've always had those instincts and have always
communicated them, whether or not they were welcomed.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's such a good thing. It's courageous, I think, and
also smart. I'm thinking to it, looking back, I am
did you with James working with James Sweeney's Yeah, did you?
Did you write the script? Together.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Did you know he wrote the script and it was
so beautifully I loved the great structure saying those words. Yeah,
these were words that I really wanted to say. For
the most part, they were very specific cadences.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And you know, he's just, he's just he's a brilliant writer.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So cadence is key, you know, And in specially something
like this where everything is so intentional and you really
want to you know, he really was crafting a thing, right,
so you you so much more I think inclined to,
at least for me, follow the vision when it is
so deliberately intentional. And he's just he's a filmmaker in
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that right, And you know, and sometimes I think the
script is certainly a thing that has gone far by
the wayside a little bit in these days in the
process of filmmaking, right, it's like almost one of the afterthoughts,
whereas I'm sure decades ago, it's you know, decades and decadecades.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Ago, which centuries almost to be honest, let's just go
back and I think you said situational. It's different. You know,
you walk into a set and is it really super
strict or are they open to stuff? And how confident
Are they in what they've created? You know?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, and you got to be I mean, your own
in the words at the end of the day. So
they need to at least hear you out. And if
everybody's coming from a place of like on the day, yeah,
what's feeling the best, what's sounding the best, let's try things.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Best idea wins, then great. If nobody is coming.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
From a place of like strictly ego and like, you know, power,
you know, I think that's when things can get sticky.
I've been very lucky to not experience many spaces.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's so nice. Yeah, that's so nice. I think when
I started, it was pretty strict. But I also feel like,
you know, I started out in theater. I started out
with plays. I mean, and you have text. The text
is everything, so you're like, get you get kind of
kind of conditioned.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, you know, Well now it's it's kind of like
you can't you can't hold us to that necessarily if
you just wrote the script yesterday, you know what I
mean as much? Yeah, I agree, you know, And I
mean there's so many things now we're processes backwards, and
I feel like for myself, at least I prefer to,
you know, pass on that experience, especially the everybody. I
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think so many people ask if, like I want to
be in a you know, like a super Marvel movie
or yeah. I think that's just like a common question
in the last decade, you know, would you ever do
a Marvel And you know, I nobody asked me that
they're not coming for you for that role.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I need they got the gray haired guy or the
calico here this mone I'm doing Calico.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right now, be like a cat.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You could, but you won't know what the script is.
They'll just be like, you know, you're.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
The cat guy guy, and we need you as the
cat guy for ten years.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and you're not good yet.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, And you don't know anything else other than you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Need to be cat guy.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And we can also put you in any other Cat
guy can be.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
In any other movie ten years or twelve years.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And we can call upon cat guy to be in
any other movie at any time, and you have to
show up.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
There's a certain restriction there, there's a certain expectation there.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, but then there's no material. They're like, oh, also,
here's the release date, and then we'll write the script.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Are you in?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Sure, And what do I do for the rest of
my life? Yeah, it was when I started. So the
first I did. Dune was my first movie. I signed
a contract. When was your first movie? First movie? It
was back in how Well the color film had just
come out, and uh, I was twenty three.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
And how do you feel about them bastardizing it?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I mean with shallow may I loved it. Actually, I
really enjoyed it. I did. I loved it. It was good.
It was good, but okay, I love where you're going
twenty three. But I had signed for five Dunes, So
there was I signed for five Dunes, you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Know, and is it echoed in my head to sign?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But it didn't, not as walking. So that was really cool, Cadence.
That's that's the key, Caden. It just drops you right
into a character.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah yeah, I think so you signed for five sign
for five, but we did one?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yes, right, you know, so that was it. It could
have been it was like that ten year I was
looking at ten years or twelve years, I don't know,
and they signed.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Ye. Yeah, you thought it was going to be Oh
that was it?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah? Yeah, that's so interesting. I could live in Seattle
and you were twenty three and that was your well, fuck,
that's the way to start. What a way to start.
And then you know, but I got connected with David Lynch,
which was the best thing that ever came out of that.
Of course our friendship. That's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Wait, so where did you did you? I'm interviewing Kyle,
because where were you at of school at that point?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Where did you go to school? Yeah? So I went
to school. I went trained at the University of Washington.
They had a really good drama theater school there, but
trained to do repertory theater. That was going to be
my thing. And then they came to Seattle and they
cast me there. The casting agent came up from lah
They were doing a search. They weren't coming up there
for me, right, they came to Seattle. I said, i'
let's meet some guys and try and find this character
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person to play this character of Paul and auditions. It
must have been quite a wide search. Now they went, Yeah,
it was one of those they were trying to find
an unknown yea. And I said, they found, you know,
complete unknown. It was a great ride. And I was
too young to rereadly know anything. Sure, and it started
me off. Sure, Yeah, so it was a good It
(17:09):
was a good way to begin with James hot, So
is this the only one? The first thing? No, if
we worked with James before first one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
He had made one future film prior, very micro budgeted
film that he also wrote, directed, and started.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, I have a feeling you're gonna do more with him.
I don't know, it just feels good. Connection is really strong.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, we've we really we've become great friends and
we really love collaborating together.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
It was a really special experience. I'm thinking about Cadence
and character, and I said, so you're you got the two.
You have the two characters you have to play Roman
and Rocky. How did you drop into those bodies? Was
there a trigger? Was it just like, what's funny?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You bring up Cadence and I'll throw a voice in
here too. I mean, the first thing I ever heard
in my head when I read the script was Roman.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I just heard him so clearly. I just knew him
so deeply.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Where I hadn't even discovered kind of why yet, but
I just knew him, you know, And that's a really
special thing. I think at this point I had been
doing this long enough to really pay attention to that
and so I really was like, Okay, whoa this could
be I really love this and I really love this guy.
And then when it got to the rocky stuff, also,
it's unfolding for me as the film unfolds, you know,
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so I'm like, I'm like, whoa, whoa, you know, and
then I get to Rocky too, and I'm like, wait,
this is lightning, and you know, I'm like, and such
a different kid and such a different rhythm. I could
already see him floating, you know. I mean, this one's
interesting goes back to the vulnerability thing, right, which you
get to display some with him. But that was a
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you know, I'm not sort of or I don't think
that I'm kind of a rocky like, you know, just infectious,
uberly infectious, confident, can walk into.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
A room fire. That's a truth detector. Hang on, I'm
like wired, you put me up a heart monitor. Guys
are good.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
But yeah, it's it's uh, it's so it's interesting that
you bring that up, because it was sort of like
voice and rhythm dialogue where my way, my initial ways
in so many years ago when I first saw the script,
And that's funny. When we're I got called by the
editor of this film, the slowest actor he's ever edited,
and any an he meant with how deliberately I would
(19:37):
speak all of my lines as Roman, and I was like,
I feel for you and I'm sorry, but I was
being truthful.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
No, it came across as absolutely that. I appreciate that
fic absolutely that and I feel like that those are
the kind of things that you can you know, you
can make a conscious choice or you can let what
because the same thing happens to me. You're read a scripting,
like suddenly you're like the transformation is happening suddenly. Sometimes
(20:05):
externally you see oh I know what shoes he wears
right right, Or it's internally it's like, oh this is
with his sisters. But it can be anything.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, but you have to trust that certainly, and it
starts to like turn into this.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, it affects everything, you know. Yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I feel like I've learned so much about myself just
even by doing what I do.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I've been so grateful for that. Yeah, you know, that's
part of the journey, which is Yeah, Like if I
think of you as a performer, I think balanced, slow
and balanced, slow and balanced. The one head line, the
line that I loved. It was not the brightest bullet
tool and the brightest tool. Yeah, it's a great line.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I think that was the scariest thing about the part
for me is sort of towing an authentic line of
I never looked at this character as not intelligent, but
here were these things in the script where you know,
he kind of like not knowing a lemon from a line,
and like, you know, there's like a few things to
obviously sort of shed light on his shelteredness or experience,
(21:11):
you know. And and and in the way that he
looks at him he sees himself, he understands.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
In the shadow of his brother always right.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So I think those were the important things to get
from these things, but also like I was really nervous
to execute them in an authentic way, you know what
I mean, because obviously this wasn't like a broad comedy movie.
We were really on the same page of like balancing
this dark comedy and this but this really human authenticity
(21:41):
with this emotional through line. So it's not like I
could like, you know, be like.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wink wink, I know what's happening. Yeah, well it was
because he delivered it, and I was like and you go, oh, yeah,
and then you're like, wait, that's not coore. It takes
the audience.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I guess sure, you get a few steps down the road.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, on a second. Yeah, but it points up exactly
kind of where he is. He's trying, but what's missing
now that his brother isn't there to like help him out. Yeah,
And it was like it was like an unexpectedly poignant moment.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well, it's so it's so honest, it's you know, and
and yeah, I think it's such a powerful little Again,
it's such a beautiful example of James's ability as a
writer because it's such it's such specificity with the perfect thing,
you know, and and it tells the emotional it gives
but it gives you such context of this guy's life
(22:39):
and where and what he's what he's lost and what
he's going through right now, and you know, and it's yeah,
it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I love that. So I'm looking back here and I
see what he got over the two things. One is
and this is an expression you're going to have to
help me understand. Okay, so what is a white boy
of the month. You have to see how I did that.
I waited for him to yip. That's a that's called acting,
and that's that's how we do it here. These it's
you know, as a certain age. I'm a certain age,
(23:06):
and I don't know some of these expressions. So yeah,
but I feel more I'm I'm kind of closer to
your age. I gotta be honest. See how I waited
an old soul. He's an old soul. So what is
I don't know really what a white boy of the
month is. I guess it is a it is a
Oh that's good. Yeah, so what is the Let's pretend
we don't know because I don't really.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Know, so I'll just yeah, let's venture guesses.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah yeah, Ken, Maya will tell us what we should
what it should be, what it really is things.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I guess it is a meaty thing I go to.
Is a you know, selected male of a calendar month.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Which month would this be?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And it can be any month? Okay, I assume and
I believe you know it would have to be Caucasian male.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yes, that's good. That's it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You're not chiming.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
We're going to complete each other. Since as we didn't,
Maya correct what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
But there's gotta be more. Yeah, what's the element? That's
what I want to elemility.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Hello, well, yes, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Are you delicious? You firing snack ability back corner?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
That is so funny.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah. They need to have a certain non threatening us
to them all sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
We cover that with that.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Nowadays it's a soft boy somebody who all terminology today.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, putting soft boy though, doesn't that come with an
element of and I'm genuinely asking this question, doesn't that
come with an element of manipulation?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
By the month?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Is I don't like that?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Just more wholesome?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well, this is someone who generally cares about someone. You know.
He's going, you're too pure? I am, I am pure? Yeah,
that is true. It goes back to the eleven year
old boy seeing that charred arm. So we conclude from this,
I think I said snack ability. Let's just go with that.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, and we've decided this month it's you guys together
coming back together. It's Dylan and Art like this.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Did you say I'm coming back? Where did I go? Oh?
You mean on the.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Show coming back as you're one of the.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
White boys of them? Went oh?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Like for when this was created. Yes, you were like,
when was this created? The twenty fourteen my come here
mid my Heyday? Baby? Oh? Was that was that the
YouTube show?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What was no my YouTube video?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want to talk about
movie Kid too? I've checked, I'll checked a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
All I've done is research there, You've done a ton
of research. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, I love the I love the lip sync. The
lip sync and then kind of being discovered and I
was like, that's very that's very you know bold, Like
how old were you when you do that? When I
made that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think I was fifteen, Okay,
so much Son's seventeen, and there's there's definitely a play,
a play and an understanding of what you're doing even
at that age.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's interesting for me to reflect on because I think
in a business where people are always going to kind
of tell you don't change, but they put a negative
connotation on it, like a you know, they'll be like,
don't get big headed, don't become an asshole. I heard
that a lot when I was young, Like it's a
weird thing to hear because you also need to evolve.
But then you're like, wait, is that bad? If I do,
(26:30):
or people going to think I'm an asshole. So it's
it's kind of a mind fuck for nineteen year old me.
I guess this is my personal journey. It's funny. And
then I'll look at things like that, like the that
video and I go oh, I've always like kind of
had the same little takes.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, that was me.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean that was like a trend, and trends are
now such a thing obviously, but like singing the Pokemon,
I remember that just being like an it's so god
it's like prehistoric now its first generation YouTube and like
singing the Pokemon or no sorry, I'm sorry the Spice Girls. Yeah,
song was like a trend on like first generation YouTube,
(27:07):
and my little instinct like whatever funny or not, I
wanted to make it and then end it really quickly
with like this funny thing, like I didn't see what
was so funny about just also doing that thing that
everyone you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I'm like, we'll lip sinking to the whole song, like
what does that do? And it should be something else
like twisted.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, so it was a weird I don't know example
of I look back and I'm like, oh, I see
like my sense of humor and creativity, it's kind of
always been the same.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And I mean it's a little story. Yeah, thank bang
like that, you know what I mean, it's not just
like one note. Sure you add something to the end.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, A little little yeah, a little yeah, something little
spice there.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's good, a little spice. I didn't even
mean it even mean right into it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But you do love coffee. I do.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I do, but I only do one coffee a day,
so it's like not like an obsessive coffee drinker, but
I do love coffee.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So and I'm very specific about my coffe. Yeah, we
talk about that. Yeah, I do. I do. I do
because I do six cups today. Six. Yeah, you heard
it right, six. Worried about you, worried about me. I'm
going to the bathroom now. Yeah. You gotta the hard
thing when you get older. It's like you add to
the progress. You know what I'm saying. And you told
me it was French press. Is your preference? Yes, yes,
(28:38):
I used to be like a real cappuccino guy with
the thing and gradually just become my father where you
just sort of grind it up put the water on
it and drink it, shove it down. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And do you so you like the process about it most?
It's not like a taste preference thing, because I find
the French press can be one of the more diluted
ways of interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh really really, Oh my god? Okay, all right, fine
ladies and gentlemen go to black for just a minute
and we're back. Yeah you look okay?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is it so not?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I measure it out, I weigh it. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
because you can make your own you can strength control.
Yeah yeah, I like it stronger. But how do you do?
How do you do you so you get the whole
being you need?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Like, so I have like a it's called a six
cup camper bioletti, but it's not like six cups of coffee.
So I've always been confused about that. When you first
said six cups, I was like, is it actually six?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I had to measure it. It's well, that's a good question,
you know what I mean? Yeah? Is it a cup
or is it like a little you know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
So it's it's it's the espresso bletti, like you know
those camper ones that have been forever. You throw it
on the stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, when you separate it just kind of that. I
don't know, you throw I throw the espresso grounds in there.
I like Italy coffee.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think great, Yeah, I love that when you pop
that can y.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
And then sometimes it implodes. One will implode on you
if you get a bad one.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No, you ever do that? What happens? No?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I g open, You're very excited and like it like
kind of sprays all over you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Really, oh God explodes? What happened? A little indigestion? Yeah,
that coffee. That's what happens with coffee. You get indigestion.
That's one of thing.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like is coffee good for us? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I think in moderation, I always go to moderation. You're like,
it's fine and moderation, but I don't do it in moderation.
That's the problem, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And then okay, the weird thing I do is with
my my little milk situation.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, you do have milk.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, So I'll toss a little oat milk in uh,
in a in like a pot, and I'll start kind
of I'll throw a fire and I'll start a little
eating it up, brought it up, and then I'll I'll
chop up some ginger root and like turmeric and a
little cinnamon stick, and I'll throw it in there and
I'll simmer the milk with that as my coffee's growing up.
(31:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Sometimes I'll drink a little honey in
there too. Yeah, feel a little sexy in the morning.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
My sticky fingers. That's good. Yeah, you know, you know,
what the hell?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And then oh yeah, so then by the time the
coffee is ready, I'll stop the simmer.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'll, you know, and it gives a little nice, little
yeah flavor.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And then I throw.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I put a little like collagen powder in my mix.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Things on on whether or not that does anything.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I don't know. I mean, how can it hurt? Right,
that's a really big way of looking at me. I
like to think that I do bone broths for that
for the college. I love bone broth. Yeah, I have
a big soup maker. I really love making.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
No really, yeah, I went through a huge bone broth
making face like a bizarre one.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah. How much time do we have, photographer, I've turned
into a week turned to a cooking show. I'm comfortable here,
I'm comfortable speaking with you. Oh good, But I could
be very not. Yeah, you get what happened. When you
get quiet, you get uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
No, not even but like I'll feel quiet inside. Yeah,
loud and angry.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like to bel
I'm more curious about. So tell me how I tell
me how it all works. You know what's Yeah, what's
happening in there? What's the sure? Sure? What's bubbling up?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah? No, I think it's more just feeling like alienated,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yes. When I think of you, I think there is
there's because there's always something in there's there's a there's
a fire in there. Maybe that's going. Maybe that's what
it is. I mean, you're squinting at me. I know
I'm in a different I know you go. You moved
when you're you're like, I have a plan I did
(32:43):
when you sat down. I did want to say, Dylan
old broh and has ever never done that for you?
Like to Conan O'Bryan shout out, no, no, oh, yeah,
that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That was a reference. That's what I'm talking. No one
has ever done it, Okay, no one has done it
for you. You've been the first to watch the outfit and
to introduce.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Me with that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But then we we were gelling so much the top
he forgot you forgot, I forget about through the cards
out the don't even talk them over here there everywhere cards?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Oh god, these are.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You just talk about?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
White? No one cares cares about it? Did your dad? Oh? Yeah,
what are you saying? You don't? He said? And who?
He said? Who the hell is that? My father goes,
what does he do? I love your dad. I love
your dad.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
He's he'll put it. He'll get it now. Once I
point to, he thinks something because he knows a lot
of crew. Usually I'm texting him about crew. Oh my
dad's a crew members.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah yeah, when we come back the game, Oh yeah,
show me your Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Well I decided to change. And it's funny because you
he took separate bathroom breaks.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But weird because I found the shirt in the bathroom.
I just I brought this today. Did you if you're Italian?
I am a quarter Italian? Are you? Yeah? See see
you're from New Jersey. That's yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
What's tell me about your shirt?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
This is film film, film critic, anybody? Because I have
our friends. They love to say and I love it
when they say me too film film going down to
the film then.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it's it's it's the way that that word should
be said by everyone.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, I think we have a response from Dylan's father, Ye,
law and order. Yeah, update on this U d Okay,
So you go live now.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I said, I said the actor he goes, oh the
with to ease Kyle maccoth.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That would be a no. I didn't even know he
was on sv AH and that's okay. So he didn't
study miam IMDb page.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And you've done such an I sort of love that
searching job that it's making us all feel.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Bad that we didn't do it. I just did a
couple of things.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Like your episode of SVU is something I.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Would love to very deep into the arm though. That
would have been awesome. Anyway, if you want to start, Okay,
I'm ready, we're back. We've got the game. It's just
called reviews for two.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
My cards called Dylan's Card, Dylan's card featuring Kyle film reviews,
Kyle film review.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, do you want to go first? We both see Okay, Okay,
I've decided I'm gonna set the scene. We I've decided
to collect some of them I'm reading some of the
most outlandish and hilarious reviews from some of our recent
and not so recent films. So these are these are
actual reviews.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And so we're both guessing these all these film reviews
from the others films.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
So one of us will read a review from the
other's movie, and that person must guess, must guess which
one is from spuck Bones. Shall we travel into the
world of revws. I love that one too. I know
we've all said the dad is hot, but oh, Phil,
I know this one. You do? Yeah inside out? Yeah, yeah,
(36:19):
how did you know? It's well it was a surprise
suddenly suddenly Yeah, I was like, he's absolutely not hot,
you know what I mean. But I was like, what
is happening?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So it stuck out to you because it was like
really weird interesting. Yeah, Okay, I really don't have faith
in myself for this.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You're gonna be great. You're gonna be great. There can
never be ready. There can never be two redheads in
one film. There can never be two red heads in
one film. This is from a review of a review. Yeah,
there can never be that can never be two redheads
(37:00):
one film. I don't know say it with film at
the end. There can never be two redheads in one film.
Got it?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, I'm gonna give your second one. So that's what
Evil Coop was doing during the twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
That's an easy it's a layup. Yeah, yeah, that's true. No,
that's true. That's the return twin Peaks of Return, that's
firewalk with me. That's Twin Peaks. It's gonna be a
little left of center. I think. So that's what he's referencing.
Oh wait, so that's what Evil Coop was doing years.
It's Oh, it's about something else.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I know. You were really funny because you're really confident
in the game.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
But it's what it's referencing, is what you're saying. But
hold on a second. I think you on tablet. Yeah
what Jill and O'Brien, you did what you could baby girl.
What Maybe it's a slate.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
It will probably help sticks.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Oh I love that. That's very nice again, Oh, very
nice one.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Oh you want to do the same time three?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
You did what you did what you could Baby Girl.
First of all, it sounds like it's dissing me. You
did what you could, Baby Girl for the Maze Runner.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You just gave it to me, Yeah, I misread.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I was supposed to read a sentence above that, and
I said the answer the maize.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Runner, you know what, you know, what's a bummer. But
I'm really happy that that happened because it was funny.
I was about to guess that. But it's not like
I knew.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I was just gonna. I was like, I need to
answer something.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And I only really have one movie. You know, I
played a kid who you know, I just really wanted
to get out by that maze and everyone's like, no, no, no,
We've like kind of set up a whole society works
here and I'm like, na, there's more for us out there.
And then like I lead this charge to get out
and there's a lot of collateral damage, carnage, and uh
(39:18):
but I survive, and so that, you know, debatably, I
have a you know, it's one could be angry at
that person. You know, we had it fine, right and
then the maze yeah yeah yeah? And then I was like,
you really wanted to get out and then now all
these kids are dead?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Do you want to give your second one another think?
Or do you want me to go to your third one?
So that's what evil Coop was doing there in twenty
five years he was in.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I was thinking it was Showgirls? What that could have been? Really,
that's the funny answer. It is the funny. I don't
know the real answer. No, I don't know. Enlighten me
the Flintstones. Oh there you go. Yeah, we never have
guessed it, I know. But it's sort of interesting because
it reverenge of twenty five years and of course Winston's
is you know pre story?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yes, that is.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That is funny and it was fun to do about that.
Was that a blast? It was a blast. It was
a blast.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I've always just thought about driving thears.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I'm giving this five stars. So my girlfriend sees that
I watched it. Okay, this is a movie? Yes, whoa
all right? What short film? Also? Well, short film? I
was about to say, I was about to qualify.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I think we got to count that for me getting
that though, because the reason I asked that was because
obviously I was thinking that that was the answer.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Right, does everyone agree? Right? Okay, that's good?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Okay, I too would fall in love with young Kyle
McLaughlin almost immediately after meeting him.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Stumped, I wrote this one, actually, well yeah, blue Bonet yeah. Ooh,
well I was young. It was the only time I
was young. You got I have people here to help me.
Oh my god, wait, I feel good. That's the last one. Okay,
I got on. This my last one, right, yeah, this
is my last one. Yeah yeah, I've really failed. Girl
(41:11):
that funeral b O b Bob? Is this this be
the last maze runner? No? No, girl that funeral Bob
Bob meaning like, oh wait, well, I don't know why
I was thinking. It was like, bring your own beer.
(41:31):
That's b y o everybody. But this is the short
version of that. So give it to me again now
that I'm ready, here we go, Here we go, Girl,
that funeral Bob.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
What's the punctuation.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well that's what I was gonna say. This is there
a comma after funeral?
Speaker 4 (41:47):
It's nothing big, it's something big, like.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Oh okay, Bob.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I really know because I was thinking, like Bob evil Bob.
I don't know, we are We're never going to be
on a game show it for like one thing, and
not even really that No girl, that funeral Bob. Like
Girl that funeral Bob. I think maybe girl, like they're
calling the bob a funeral bob. Oh no, you saw it. No,
(42:15):
I just saw like you helping me? And is it Twinless?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yes? Oh so I didn't think, well, I do you
think that twinless?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Wow? I feel like an idiot now because it's so
obviously the answer. But I didn't think that Twinless would
be on here.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But okay, yeah, yeah, I mean the funeral Bob, but
it is a funeral Bob. I literally have no clue
why anyone would think this is a bad movie. That's
the that's the It's not even literally that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Because I have so many that I could.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I literally have no clue why anyone would think this
is a bad movie. Wholeheartedly agree with this take. I
consider this film the masterpiece. Now I've really thrown you.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yes, I wasn't to say it's not show Girls. It
is sure girl show Girls. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Do you win if you said it's not the thing
that's the answer.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I think you both won.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Everybody wins and play we played together. We played together
to Redheads.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh right, let's go back to that one.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
See you still like to play? The game is still
cattle Lake. Yes, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Boys and girls, that's it and sticks.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yes, of course, what's next? What's what? What? What? What's happening?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
So you want to I've got nothing next?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
If anything?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Actually I got nothing. I got nothing nothing. I've been
me too. I meet it with my whole heart, and
I was like, I don't really know where to go.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
You want to come and hang out?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Essentially, I would love to do that. I'm probably gonna
take some time. I do have a film coming out
in January. It's called Send Help. It is a Sam
Raimi direct It's me and Rachel McAdams and I love
very talented, very love Sam, and.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
You love really curious love Sam. Rachel is really she's great.
I've just never met her, but always admired. She's the coolest. Yeah,
and Sam is awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, It's a really funny experience, and I am looking
forward to seeing the movie.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I'm kind of like it's wacky romantic kind of thing
or wacky come what.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Kind of Hopefully it's like Sam, you know, kind of
doing Sam again in a way. And I think that's
that was like the intense mind it. It's a cool
studio film, original concepts okay, hopefully wacky, weird okay, bloody fun, twisty.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Right, bloody fun. That sounds very good and something that
you really enjoyed, just bloody yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
But other than that, existentially, no, I don't know where
I go from here.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Taking some time that's a good thing. Times up and
we came in just right at the right time. Perfect. Really,
I felt like we took forever. The audience will be
the judge of that. Lady, Kids of all ages, thanks
for joining. I don't know if we actually answered the
question of what are we even doing? But we had
a good time. It's really really a pleasure. Wait, that's it? No,
(45:09):
no back card? Is it? Oh? This one? No? What
are we doing? Yeah? What are we making? Shows?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Called?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah? I love that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I'm finding that out on the outro.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah yeah, I've been holding it in front of your
face the whole time. I'm listening to you God, and
he's believing me. Oh, it was really fun. I really
enjoyed it. I'm so happy to hear that. Good, big,
big fan of yours. I really love you. You've always
had great favors. Really, thank you. This it's so Funshush guys, Yeah, yeah,
but honest, honestly.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, no, truly this was a blast cool. I hope
we didn't annoy you guys.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh, I hope we did. We're annoyed. What Are We
Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis
Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created
and produced by Full Picture Productions, featuring music by Yata
and artwork by Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast,
(46:06):
please visit our Instagram and TikTok at wawed with Kyle.
Please rate, review, and subscribe to What Are We Even
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