October 30, 2025 • 51 mins
Actress, writer, and producer Rachel Sennott joins Kyle for a royally chaotic Halloween episode recorded entirely in Princess Diaries cosplay (yes, Mia Thermopolis and Queen Clarisse have entered the pod stu). Between tales of Hollywood hauntings and creative chaos, they talk Bottoms, Shiva Baby, I Love LA, and how Rachel’s Treacly Productions is conjuring its next big thing. There’s matcha spilled, crowns dropped, and one very cursed round of Spooky Season Showdown that proves even royalty can’t escape the jump scares. It’s ghoulishly glamorous, slightly unhinged, and perfectly treacly. In other words, it’s the Halloween special you didn’t know you needed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A queen is ever late. Everyone else is simply early.
It's sex in the city out heavy is the head,
that is the ground. I know we thought that one
we should do merge any I don't know. I'm a dessert.
I would be like, I can't wait for the next
terrible thing to happen in my personal life. Since one
is being a slut a crime in this family means
my mom uh huh, look like my aunt Sandy Red
(00:21):
braw Top. I'm a devil. My art made sweeting about
being morney. Oh my god, I need a wine business.
Hitting the mic with the macha. If you can't see this,
it's on you, trickle Kyle, shooting is really difficult to
pick your head up, Queen, your crown's falling.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
What do we even do? What are we even doing?
Welcome to the Haunted Show. I'm a huge Halloween fan.
We would do a Halloween hallway in New York and
my apartment in New York.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh my god, Well, all.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The kids would have to come in and hit We
had a long entrance hallway and they have to come
all the way to the end of the cauldron, the
bubbling cauldron to get their candy. So it's challenging and
it was full of full of crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But that's you want to be that house because then
everyone's like, we got to get there first.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That's we had great candy, full.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Size, none of this little bullshit bullshow.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, we're going deep.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We're we're going hey, hello everyone. I know I look
a little different. This is our Halloween episode. I can't
wait to introduce who's here with me? But I'm gonna
hold out for a minute because our host, I'm your host.
Not forget that, ah, the pressure of Halloween. This is
where we sit down on our podcast. What are we
even doing? They're gonna cut all this anyway. This is
(01:39):
where we sit down with actors, musicians, creatives. We talk process,
we talk creativity, we talk about how they're shaking up
the wonderful world of the Internet. It's wild and willy,
and we're gonna get crazy and we're gonna get weird,
but in a good way. And tonight, oh, I can
say tonight because it's a Halloween night. Tonight, we have
a brilliant and hysterical actress, this writer producer known for
(02:04):
the film's bottom Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, Shiva Baby, what's the
trailer of that. It's fantastic. I used to be funny
and more. This is the original, the one and only
Trickily Child aka Rachel Sennett. I am so happy to
see you. You are unbelievable. Cheers, thank you, thank you,
(02:26):
thank you for having me this little different too.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I know, I just thought i'd throw this on. I
was feeling spooky as well. Honestly, one of my favorite movies.
Do you love the movie?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
A great movie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It's such a great movie.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's a great movie.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You look like.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The princess, like a prince.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Shut up, you look like a princess. The question is
do I look like a queen?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
A queen?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yes, you know you walk and honestly very Julie Andrews
when I walked in, very gracious, yes, welcoming, quiet.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, yes, somewhat regal, somewhat.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
At yes yeah yeah yeah but still.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Warm Yes, she has warm. She has some banger lines
and that I love. A queen is never late. Everyone
else is simply early. That I need to start saying
that ship. I need to start saying that ship when
I'm late. Queen is ever late. Everyone else is simply early.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh, this is princess.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Princess Diaris of course, and.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Of course this is an homage.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
An homage, an homage reference.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yes, yes, yes, we're crowned. We're ready to go, ready
to go. I'm going to Christal walking Land. That's not
I always end up there.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's a great place to go.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I am happy.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I want.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm so just excited to meet you because you're so creative.
You have so many different things going on. I want
to know your beginning. So you started, It's like, this
is what I want to do. What moment I.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Think, well, first of all, same, I'm so excited to
hang because we talked about this, but like we our
friendship began.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
On TikTok, Yes it did.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We were sort of engaging with each other on we
were sort of making tiktoks of each other, you know, commenting,
And then we got to meet and hang briefly at
the Blenciaga.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Show, which is a nice place to meet.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's a fabulous place to meet. All the lights are off,
it's completely dark, the music. It's like, so I be
like hi.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Later.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We both have jet lag. It's yeah, constipated from flying
to Paris. It's just that was the vibe. It was
perfect perfect vibe, perfect vibe. But now we can get
Now we can get into it, you know, learn about
each other, go deep. I would say, like, I definitely
was like one of those kids that I always knew
(04:41):
I wanted to do this, even if I didn't really
get what it was at first, I always had the instinct.
I was always like making stuff. I was forcing my
siblings to be and like my music video that I made,
or like plays that I would write and direct, and like, really,
because I come from a big family, seven people.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, that is a big family, big family, creative family
or were you kind of the.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I was kind of the creative one. Now my baby
sister is in fashion school, so shout out she's in
New York, New te and so shout out Lizzy. Lizzie's
I don't know, oh sorry, shout out Lizzie. She's joining
me on the creative side. I'm like, it's you and me.
We're going to events together.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes, yes, oh good good include.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
She she came to one of the Blenciaga shows, not
the one I don't know if the one you were at, but.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
One that was the show in Paris. Ye, that that
one we.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Sat that one, we said that one. We sat that one,
but the basically like mostly no, everyone everyone does really
different things, which is so interesting. Like my older sister
is a teacher.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I do this, I'm performing in it. I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's true. But still my brother, oh my god, we
scared because I don't know what his job is. But
I think it has to do with insurance.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Okay, I'm so sorry he's scared.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He is my brother and I love him. Yes, that's amazing.
And my sister works in politics.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Wow, and then Range, so range.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But they were forced to be creative when we were
growing up because I made that.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Good for you. So New York based kind of growing up.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Born in Massachusetts, grew up in Connecticut. My dad worked
in New York, very very tri state area. And then
I went to n y U and moved to New York.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, yeah, how was that n YU experience?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You know, you know this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
This is I'm assuming you were there in the drama
world and the creative.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yes, I went. I went to TISH, I went to
the acting program. Like looking back, I have beautiful memories,
but life has only gotten better. Tell me if you agree,
as I've gotten older.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Anytime I look back at when I was younger, I'm
sort of like I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, yeah, yeah, out a little bit a little. So
you went through a training program, acting training program. I
went through an acting training program on the other coast
US up in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh seeh oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That yeah, that goes the way up in the middle
of nowhere at the University of Washington. And it was
three years and it was intense. I was terrible, and
but I but I did love it, and I had
but I didn't really know what I just knew that
this was something that I liked. Yeah, I didn't know
where do you go with this?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
What happens?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And they don't tell you at school? No, you can
ask as many times as Yeah. I literally was like,
how do you get a job? They were like, we can't,
that's not what this is about.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I was like, but how do we pay for all
of the school And they were like, you don't have
to worry about that. It's just not what we're concerned about.
You need to learn the Shakespeare monologue and perform it
in a dark room.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Student loans yes, and that happens later.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's yeah, right now, be present in the Shakespeare scene.
And so I felt a little lost, I think, and
I felt I was very anxious. I didn't feel very
like in myself. I think what is great about college
and I think for a lot of people, and also
living in New York, I felt like I really came
into myself piece by piece, you know, not all at once,
(08:17):
and you kind of experiment with different personalities sort of
like I went from being like super like repressed, very religious,
to being like it's sex in the city out here,
I'm hooking up and I'm doing stuff all the time,
you know what I mean. Like I took it there
and then I think I like found my rhythm, I
(08:40):
found my friends, Like I feel very my favorite part
of college, I think is the friends that I made
while I was there, because a lot of them are
still my best friends today and like I've got to
make stuff with them or watch them go off and
make stuff, and like, I feel like I have a
very strong community. And there's something about someone knowing you
when you're like eighteen years old falling down a flight
(09:01):
of stairs at a frat party or something. They're They're like,
You're like you you have my back for real.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So you did a ten frat party, so that that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I did a couple, but I was more, honestly, probably worse.
I was like going to like open mics and falling
downstairs there. I was going to Chinese like you did
you do?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I don't know, maybe you shall know that is so,
that is so brave. I have really never tried that,
and I don't I mean, that's like another level. Are
you sure?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It seems like I think you would be fabulous.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't know. I really don't know. I freaky.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I think you would be fabulous because you have a
point of view, you have stage press, you know what
I mean. It's the same thing as acting. It's just
like talking, but it's acting.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Acting is because you can hide.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's a drain.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That could be my thing. I could be. I could
be the sit down comic. That would be it, and
I would just never get I would just sit in
a chair.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That would be fabulous.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, my idea.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But I do feel like an acting you know, I'm
in the year behind the character, right.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, you're sort of a little bit protected. Yes, whereas
you as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Doing stand up, you're like a robe or maybe or
maybe you create a character for the stand up.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, a little bit, maybe, I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I think so, I think. I mean, I've been I've
been like thinking about this a lot recently because I
feel like I sort of like created a persona that
was based off of truth, you know what I mean.
But then you sort of heighten yourself and then you
almost are like, now am I doing stuff to write
about it? Or is that? You know what I mean?
It becomes this push and pull where sometimes it's like
(10:47):
I would be like, I can't wait for the next
terrible thing to happen in my personal life so I
can have a bit you know. It was so much
fun some of the time, like doing doing a monthly
show with they showed my friend Moss that was so
fun called puke Fest, and it was the term get it,
(11:08):
we should do mergers?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah yeah, I would sell.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But it was like we did it in a basement
in his apartment in like Crown Heights and totally illegal.
It was like a hundred college students in the basement
in this like tiny apartment, and we would like buy
alcohol in bulk because we would like protect I think
we like pretended to be a liquor store so we
(11:32):
could buy hard.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Alcohol complicated, it's illegal.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But now time has gone by and it's fine.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's no longer legal.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
They're not going to get the statue of limitations and
you're fine, Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So we would pour shots all over the table, like
we set up tables, and then for each comedian we
would do like a rule like this comedian talks about
like this a lot. Every time they bring up like
their mom or whatever, blah blah blah, you take a shot.
People would get blackout because it was like with the
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rules would literally be like anytime somebody's wearing a flannel
like it's like so we would just be drinking these
like lukewarm shots and then everyone would be trashed and
then turn into a party.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It was really it's a good idea, Well, because you
should do it now. Well here, yeah, you got your
macha and I've got my I've got my coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is what it's come to to come.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, if we're mature, we're past that.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
We are sort of past. Yeah here, what's in here?
What's in here?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I want to ask you this, did you the persona online?
He's not a persona?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Or because when you're hanging with your crew.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
What like my persona online right now? Well, more like Twitter? Yeah,
I think when I was on Twitter, that's when I
feel like I had like a persona sort of but
it came out of a very real place. Like it's
like I was actively Like I think that's the most
I feel like my art was like my art me
(13:12):
tweeting about being horny, but like I it was like
it's art. It was like it was immediate, like it
was like I felt something, Bam, I was I was.
So I think it was also very like manic at
the time, which sometimes being manic is it's so much
better than being depressed. It's so much more like up.
(13:34):
You know, yeah yeah, and you have energy and you
know you're a little shaky, but it's good.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And so I was really like just actively like as
something would happen to me, I was like writing about
it and putting it out there.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It's very brave for you. Did you think there's, oh,
you have any hesitation at all? You were like, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Just going no, I had hesitation. Later when people like
I think it was it was interesting. I was in
sort of like an on and off relationship that I
was getting I was putting a lot of jokes into
whatever that are writing about or whatever. And now I'm like,
when you're in a healthy relationship, You're like, I would
never do you know what I mean? I would never
(14:11):
like put all of this in here. If I was
going to find a story from my relationship, I would
give it air to breathe. That would put it in
the script, that would put it with the character. Yes,
because I'm thirty now now mature, But at the time
it was so immediate, I felt like I almost kept
doing the character. After I was growing away from the character,
(14:37):
and then I took a little space away from Twitter
and the Internet, and like now I feel like I
what I hope this show can do is be a
way for me to like take experiences and things that
I want to share, because like a lot of times
I have like an experience where I'm like this is
interesting to this is something I want to talk about
(14:58):
or whatever are.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You talking about?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I love that?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yes, yes, yeah, and you show yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
show exactly. I was going to say, what seems to
me is what's happening is you're taking all these creative impulses,
all these like Oh that's a real moment. Oh that's
a real moment. I really feel this and just putting
it out there on Twitter, right, which is what's interesting,
you know, to lay it out there. And now you
have the show which I watched the first episode. It's
really good. I'm so happy and it's quite I mean,
(15:24):
you you wrote it, you created it, you produced it.
Your character in that is I mean, I think it's
a fantastic character. But it's maybe it's maybe it's the
more serious character. Yeah, she's the she's the person who's
who is sort of taken on adulthood, stepping into adulthood,
and yet all her friends are like woo yeah, crazy
and I and it's not easy to have that. But
(15:46):
I think you capture that. You're on the cusp, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, the world I think it was, I mean just
off of like what I was just saying, Like Maya Tulula,
who's played byas I, is amazing. She's so good, and
like I felt like Maya and Telula was almost like
a split of me and te Lula is kind of
that like me when I lived in New York, mean,
(16:11):
when I was a little more messy and free and
then Maya, I think is the how I felt when
I was sort of like isolating and stressed and anxious
and being like I need to make it to the
next thing and whatever, and I feel like my antela
are their best together. I feel like now I think
I've hopefully matured where I have a balance of both
of those things of like freedom and being able to
(16:35):
be in touch with my emotions and be a little messy,
but also like a little more maturity, a little more
a little more frontal lobe that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now you can see it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You can see it, you can see the we're both
I don't know, people know we're wearing crime. Of course
we are.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
People probably knew that intuitively.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yea, even if we weren't, we're wearing.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Were wearing you know what I mean. It's it's a
really I can't wait to see what happens in the
episodes because you've you set up the world really beautifully.
The characters are distinct at each have their own voice. Yeah,
I'm really impressed.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, thank you the whole cast. I was like, I
feel so lucky to have that cast.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
My gold my wig here ha.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Your beautiful golden block.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Thank you thank you. You're really if you can't see that,
you're really missing it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're really missing you want this is a visual episode.
I don't know what to tell you. I was just saying, like,
I got so lucky with the cast because I feel
like everyone brings something so specific to their character. Like
true Whittaker is someone who we cast her as a
lawnie and then we already had that character, but I
(17:45):
didn't feel like it was it was as interesting of
a character until we like she read and she just
has like such a unique comedic timing. She's so funny,
and I was like, Okay, now we're we running the
character to her voice to match her with the Like
Jordan Firshman, He's a good friend of mine. He's someone
who like improvises and adds to every line. Josh like,
(18:09):
I feel like I've been a fan of his for
so long. Same with Leyton. But in these roles they
switch and you see them in like totally different lights.
Yeah you know what I.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Mean, And they must have been because I think as
an actor or as a person joining in the business,
you want opportunity to show other sides. I mean, I
think you would do other sides yeah, and to work
with people that are, you know, extremely they're all extremely talented,
they all get the joke, you know, they're all telling
the story. It's well directed to the.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Rhythm of it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I mean, everything about it is. Guy, It's like it's
really I'm impressed.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm so glad you like it. Yeah, I feel like
I don't know when you're when you're making a first
season of a show, like like for over Compensating, for example, whatever,
like you have. Like Benny and I were talking about this,
it's like the first time you're doing it, like you're
you're you're finding the tone as you go, and then
you see the show and you're like, duh, that's the tone.
(19:05):
It's so funny whatever. It's like a balance. But like
you as you're making it, you're like creating the car
everything like it's for the first time, and it's like
it's kind of scary, and like when you're an actor
on the show, you're like, I think I feel this
all the time when I'm doing something, I'm like, am
I doing the same tone as everyone else? What tone
(19:26):
are we doing? Is this kind of can't be very serious?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And what's going on?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, am I doing well? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's intuitive, and it's also the director, I
mean somewhat of the director's sort of responsibility, sort of
we're hanging in this world. But at the same time,
you need stuff that like is crazy, yeah, and out
out of left field.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And just unusual because it's it's sparky.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, but finding that tone is really is really tricky.
But I think so much of that comes down to casting.
You have the right people like minded that are all
different in enough to bring something new.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Then if the.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Odds are better. There's never a guarantee, totally never never guarantee.
And I've been through a lot of stuff. It's like
you think, oh, this is gonna be great. Yeah, chemistry
is off.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You never know. You literally never know. It's so crazy
because you can have the best time ever doing something
and be like, h that was fabulous and everyone's like
we hate it. You could have a really bad time
doing something and everyone's like, this is the best thing
you've ever You don't know. It's so random. But then
you just have to be do you feel at this
point in your career you're kind of like, what is
that saying? Let go go go with go and go
(20:34):
with God.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Go go, go and go with God.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Let go and go What is it called? Let go
and let God?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like going like God, let go and let God?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, Like do you just feel.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yes? Yes, And that that does come with time and experience,
I think, because when I first started, I was much
more controlled and like got to you know, stay in
this and for God's sake. The first thing I did,
Dune was the first thing I did. And here is that.
You know, here's a guy that's under severe control.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, you know, very very strict.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And then I went off into Blue Velvet, which is
a completely different thing. The guy is kind of loose
and free and he's exploring sides of things and enjoying that.
So it was like the push and pull. But I
was blessed with working with David Lynch starting out, Vid Lynch,
who is I mean, was forgetting that one of the
greats of all time, you know, and not only as
(21:24):
a director but as a person as well. So, but
I think that the community you talked about earlier, the community,
and we I've now met and we've on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yes you're seeing my community your community.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, well with Harley too, I mean that's I
think I was. First, I was, you know, watching the videos.
We were doing stuff with it, and I was like,
wait a minute, who's that girl right there and that
one right there and and so that's Spark.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Series in the back of the visit.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, no, no, no, it's like yeah. It was like and
I was saying, and when I'm talking about like a
persona you had, there's a certain kind of a vibe
projecting within that world.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, she holds the whole audience like a packed insane crowd.
The energy she creates is like insane. And then like
but then you talk to her and she's so down
to earth and grounded and sweet and funny, like you
know what I mean, And it's cool to have that balance.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
How did y'all meet?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Okay, I was like I was like a fan. I
was just like tweeting at her, to be honest, like
back when I was on Twitter, I was like literally
like I'm crying to a Charlie song, like Charlie helped me.
My boyfriend doesn't want to date me. So it was
sort of like crazy behavior. But anyways, she watched Shiva
Baby and then like I think during COVID and like
(22:44):
reviewed it on her letter box and then like sort
of we like found each other online. I did her
podcast remotely, so we first met through that, okay, and
then she did a song for Bodies Buddies Bodies, which
was amazing, and then like I went to her show.
I went to I think I first went to her
(23:05):
show with the Greek that was incredible, and then it
was just I think it just sort of happened naturally,
and like, I think she genuinely wants to root for
and support other artists, and when she finds someone who's
stuff she likes, she's just like down, Like she she
did the score for Bottoms and like like she doesn't
(23:27):
need to do the score for a movie where we're
paying her five dollars, Like she doesn't need that. And
she was like I love to I'm down, like because
she like loves shit a baby and believed in me
and Emma and ioways like creator, you know what I mean.
And I just feel like she's always like looking for
ways to like bring different people together.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I agree, I agree, I think, and that was the
experience I think a.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Compensating Yeah, and he's like that too, you know, Yeah,
brings in his crew and like is really warm and
so funny yea, and like has the charisma where it's
like he's leading the show, but then also can make
everyone feel welcome on set and feel like they're at
(24:12):
like like almost like you're hosting a party.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah. And I feel like it's such gratitude. Both Charlie
and Benny is like they've they've been through it and
they really appreciate. Charlie in particular, she understands the journey. Yeah,
and she's and she has gratitude for the fact that
she's able to have success. Yes, and I think Benny
as well, and they they share that. They share that
with the.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
People that are around them.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And they're so welcoming, They're so happy that you're there.
They're so great soul that you're there. And that's just
that's a great world to be able to step into,
like a little film world, like our little crew, our
little posse that we have.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, it's like you want to have that.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Everyone is so happy that everyone is there, yea, everyone's
there to contribute.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Was it a dream filming? Was it so fun?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It was so fun?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, it was so fun. Yeah, it was just really
a joy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And you know, I met but I didn't know, and
now you know friends and follow them and stuff just
because And it's part of why I'm doing this this podcast.
There's a creative community that exists. It's much younger than me,
much different generation that I'm interested in and I'm curious about. Yeah,
what's happening, you know what's important, And it's just it's
like a there's a real sense of family. There's a
real sense of community. Yeah, like sharing and trading back
(25:21):
and forth.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I think a thousand percent. And I think also like
it feels like supportive in a way that I feel
like when I was like younger growing up, or like
when I was in acting school, was like told almost
like you watch like chorus line or something or like whatever,
and it's like all the girls like cutting up each
other's shoes and whatever. Yeah, and I feel like we're
(25:44):
really lucky to have this group. Like Benny, like he
was shooting while I was in the writer's room. Then
we were shooting while they were editing, So he's always
like a couple like months ahead of me in the process, right,
And I would be like, the writer's room is really hard.
I I think I'm like wearing pants. I can't think
of an idea and he was like, donht my love.
Shooting is really difficult, like whatever, Like giving.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You make you feel better? Ye hard?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, like giving having being able to, like I don't know,
like share less things you've learned or things that are
fun and whatever. Like it's it's cool to have that
and have that community.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I completely agree. And it's nice to hear that
they're sharing. And I I know what you mean. When
I was in school too, it's kind of everyone. You know,
you're all every person for themselves. Yeah, you know, you're
like okay, and you just do the best you can.
But yeah, they've been absolutely absolutely special. I want to
ask you about treaty Child and is it because I'm
so curious about the name and this name of your
(26:44):
production company too, isn't it? Is it not?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't think of any other words. I
was just like, it's already been Instagram, let's just use that.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
And yeah, it was available.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, it was no.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
One knows that word.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, And I was going to ask you so treakily,
I mean to you, I mean, I know it's a
sweet So it's okay. There's a couple of different version meanings.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So basically, when I was little, my family would call
me like a sticky child. It's like a little kid
that's like sucking on the top of their shirt and
there's like a little bit of spit here, or like
there's a little jelly here or something kind of messy.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So whenever touch you, like you're like, oh, yeah, was
in the chair and yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And so I looked for sticky child on Instagram when
I first met my Instagram, and it was taken. It's
taken crazy. So then I looked up synonyms for sticky
and trickly came up. And I also saw that it
meant like emotional or messy or like mound of something
(27:50):
like you know what I mean. And I was like, oh,
like man, also, it's a dessert.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yes, that's that's how I know.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
An you better know I'm a dessert. So I was like,
I'm doing this and then I just did it like randomly,
like this is like when I'm in high school, I think,
like I mean, so it's like I just had it,
like maybe it was when I first got to No,
I think it was like in high school. And then
I just made it and it didn't like I didn't
(28:16):
think like then I'll have Instagram like ten years from now,
and you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Were already thinking.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You already sort of had this idea in your head,
which I think is amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, so that's that's how it began.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, it's a good story.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's a good story.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I'm still looking for a name for me.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So what do you think?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So I have one that I like, but it's taken many, many,
many times. Yeah, just a number because and it's kind
of a I don't know, I mean, it's a nice
story to me. Anyway, the story isn't really nice, but
how what happened after the.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Story is good.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So my mom passed away January eleventh, eighty six, long
long time ago.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So it's one one one, and I didn't think much
about it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I mean, obviously I thought a lot about her passing,
but the fact they didn't think much about the day,
it's like, you know, But and then I started seeing
everywhere one one one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
One one one one would come up wow, like a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, and I was and I began to sort of go,
I think, wow, I think my mom's around. Yeah. Yeah,
it's not like I believe, you know, I'm like, they're people.
But I just said, oh, that's it's either I don't
know what's happening, obnestly you know, it's just happening. So
I whenever I see it, I just so I just
go hang mom, you know, and I think of her,
you know there, you know, for a minute, and then
(29:33):
I go onto my next thing.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's not like I sit there and d it or
feel sad. Yeah, it's just oh exactly, I think of her,
you know, and I'm reminded. And but it's all that
I said. That was one idea.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So I love that idea.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's a cool idea, and I liked you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That it means something to you. But it's not like
same with Trickly Child in a very different way. But
it's like you have to sort of not everyone knows
what the meaning is at a glance, do you know
what I mean? But you know, but it's sort of like,
oh what is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That a little bit of a mystery. Yeah, it has
power I think because because of that everything is.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, people don't necessarily know exactly what.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
What it is, what it is totally totally.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But I don't know. But but you know, treakily Kyle.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Kyle, we vote you you I we asserted the Trickly Wars.
I'm like literally like, hey, back off, back off my hand.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Trickly no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I feel like but I got a sense of this
is a very when we talked about claustrophobic, right.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I remember Emma Seligman, the writer director, being so like
being being so giving, so many like notes and thoughts
of being like, it's really got a hit because we
didn't have it was like a super indie movie. And
then we didn't have a film festival premiere because of COVID.
So I remember them being like this, we this is
(31:01):
all we have in Shiva. Baby. It's very much that
like end of college, sort of like when you're like,
oh shit, like I'm entering the real world, like what's
going to happen whatever? And then I feel like I
love la is a little bit more like end of
your twenties sat in Return, which I want to hear
(31:22):
about yours.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Remember in Return?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You do?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, wait what sign are you? Oh my god? Okay,
so here's the thing. I'm a virgo. So we're in
but that's together.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah we're perfect.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, yeah, we're perfect together.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We can make a whole person, We can.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Make all persons. Okay, we together, we could be normal,
and we strive, we can get really close. But it's
like you go through hard lessons in your early twenties
and then the middle of your twenties is sort of
evens out and you're like, oh, yeah, okay, or it's
COVID and you're just in your parents' basement. But then
in the end of your twenties you're sort of like,
wait a second, fuck, I'm about to be thirty, Like
(32:05):
is this my life? Or am I changing my whole life?
And then it like everything gets shaken up and you
land hopefully where you're supposed to land. Yeah, but that's
a little bit more the chaos, And I'll say it
hits different like being chaotic. When you're like twenty three,
you're like, I'm drinking in the daytime, I'm doing poppers outside.
(32:27):
I don't care because you know, you have time to
fuck up. When you're like twenty eight, you're having a
fuck up, but you're like, I have to go to
work tomorrow and I don't even know if I want
this job. And then am I keeping that my boyfriend?
Like it's so much more serious because it's not as
fun to be like messy and free, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Mean, Yeah, completely one side or the other. And that's
I love A lay is like that. I mean, got
your character in there's like you're trying to like hold
things together, yes, and your friend comes a visiting and
you're like ripping. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But do you remember did you have a moment at
the end of your twenties where you're like, everything's I
don't know what's happening, everything's getting shaken.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Up, still happening. Actually, no, I don't know what's happening. Yeah,
you know it was. It was definitely a move into
something else. So I had a long term relationship that
ended and then and then I kind of had a
little quick, short of relationship and then I got into
something else long again. I got him in my early thirties,
(33:25):
and it was I basically just sort of stepped away
from the business in a weird way, and I just
I got involved in the fashion world more in that
in that arena, and it was so interesting to me
because the film business was hard, yeah, and I was
and I was not. I was not progressing, So I
was kind of treading water and I said, well, this
(33:46):
isn't really working.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I don't know what else to do.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So I basically just took a holiday six year vacation.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Which is powerful. I think I don't be able, no,
but I think to be able to like.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Can I take my crownd just for a second?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Of course, heavy head the ground?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I know, heavy, it's so beautiful, but it's also a
little it's a little bit I'm gonna sitt here for
just one second.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But I think it's powerful to be like if this
is not if I'm not feeling like creatively fulfilled or
like inspire or whatever, or if I'm feeling frustrated, I
think there's something like in the same way that it's
like if you're dating someone and they're treating you like
shit and you're like, I'm good, love you walk away,
they go, where do you go?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I miss you? I need you? Sorry too late. Yeah,
But it's like I think, and finding other things that
fulfill you, because I do think it's a really brutal,
hard industry, and like I feel like since I graduated college,
there's been like there was COVID, there was a strike,
like all these things shifting and changing the industry, and
it's like so hard to ever feel like in control
(34:55):
or ground. You know, it never feels like enough. So
I think I think it's I think it's very powerful
to be creative.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Energy is very strong.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean between the acting, the producing, the writing, you know,
these are this is, this is, these are all powerful
forces at work. I think I felt with mine, I
was just like, you know what I'm I'm not really
going where I want to go. And I think, honestly,
I think I needed to grow up a little bit. Yeah,
I have a better understanding of what I was here
for and what I was doing. Even though I'd started
strong with David and then you know, it kind of
(35:26):
segued into and then Peaks was great, but there were
long periods of time where I was like, I just
I'm not Yeah, all cylinders are not working.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Also, sometimes when you have an amazing, like amazing experiences
early on, then it almost feels like how am I
ever going to match that?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, you know that's true.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That was part of the journey.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, where it's like or or sometimes I think it's
like you have an experience like the experience I had
on Ship a Baby was so like because no, there
was no expectation it was just us. It was like
our friends making a movie in one house. I was like,
this feels so intimate and fun and small. Then all
of a sudden, there's new pressure and there's all these
(36:08):
people to answer to and whatever, and it's like, how
do I get back the feeling of being with like
three of my friends in a little house. Yeah, and that, yes,
how do I get that? You know what I mean?
So it's like you're always chasing that initial high or experience.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. The other actors in She If
a Baby or so wonderful, the faces, the characters.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Molly Gordon is amazing. That's where I first met her
and now she's one of my best friends. Yeah, but like, yeah,
I was like, so I didn't realize how special it was,
I think until later where I was like that was crazy,
that was so special.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah. That's something else too, when you start like that,
the way I started working with really extraordinary people, kind
of going oh, so this is how it's done, and
not really understanding or appreciating it, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And later you're like, oh my god, yeah, not everyone's
on this level.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, that's an interesting thing to be able to understand,
you know, I don't know if it's if it's true,
because I'm so focused now on on overcompensating and so
kind of in the world of younger creatives. But it
feels like there's this movement, like a a young millennial
gen Z movement in the creative world that is compelling,
(37:26):
you know, And I'm working with with creatives like Benny
and some of the cast and watching your stuff, I'm going,
there's there's there are new voices that are coming up
that are very exciting. Do you feel like you're part
of a new wave or a new.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I would say, I feel like, yeah, there's like a
I call it my grade. I'm like, we're in the
same grade kind of okay, and I feel like our
grade is like coming or graduating or it's like we're
sort of like you look around and you're like, wait
a second. My friend as a show, like Benny is
(38:01):
a show, and then Owen's on an amazing show, and
he's also on Benny's show, Like you look around, Jordan's
on my show. He's directing his first movie, like Io
is like doing amazing movies, like huge dramatic movies, but
then still doing like funny comedy stuff. Molly's off making
a move like yeah, but I was writing something like
(38:22):
it's like I feel like my grade is like we
all came up together, and so it's cool to see
everyone like doing their thing and doing stuff together, but
doing you know, I think that's really special.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That's what I'm I'm I'm just just kind of.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Getting a sense of it.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I mean, as you can see, I'm kind of trying
to describe something.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I don't really know what I'm saying, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I feel like there is a lot of creative.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah right now.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, it's good in a certain group and all doing
interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
So yeah, I think I think I was. I feel
like we're hopefully leaving the period of our careers where
it's like just try starting or whatever. Like I think
people are getting to do their things, you know what
I mean, instead of like trying to prove themselves to
get to do the thing. It's like we're getting to
do the thing and make the stuff we want.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, And I do feel like, and I've talked about
this a little bit, is that there's there you try
a lot of different things, Like there's no thinking back
to my let's say, my generation where you kind of
not staying your lane necessarily.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
But you're an actor.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, maybe you do a little bit of something here there,
But in this generation, everything everything.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I'm a video ho, I'm a writer, I'm show running,
I'm doing you know what I mean. You get to dabble.
It's really fun.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
The only thing that's hard about dabbling is that I'm like,
the schedule gets overwhelming, and then you want to do everything,
you know what I mean? Yeah, that part is tricky,
but I think it's it's really freeing to be able
to do different stuff. And for me that came from
a place of being like, no one's ever going to
cast me in anything. I better write something, you know
what I mean. But then you're like, oh, I love writing,
(40:02):
you know. But like you get to do multiple things
and you're doing that too. I am now yeah, podcasting, acting, like.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Wine business and everything love.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, and that is oh my god, I need a
wine business.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
You guys are drinking all the time. Yes, I gotta
do that.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Do you enjoy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Okay, not like crazy, but why I like wine?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, it's nice with food.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I like it with.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Food with cheese and I can't even eat cheese, but
I do with the right wine just because I get
really party. But it's like just like friends, Yeah, you
have to be around friends, or it's like you leave
in time and then you go be alone, you know,
or you go where it's summer.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Son and and you don't and you don't like.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Whatever, deal with it. Get it good for him.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This is so, this is our Halloween episode. But of course,
as you can tell, because looking at us, we are
crazy and drested, very strange. How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You started it? No, we went started.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And the set is supporting our Halloween Yeah, totally sorry.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
If you can't see this, it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
If you can't see this, it's on you like, turn
it on, turn it on the camera.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Come on, get busy. So I did come up with
an idea for a little segment just for some fuff.
It's called Spooky Season Showdown. But before we get to that,
let me ask you about like a favorite Halloween costume maybe,
or Halloween memories.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I have a traumatic Halloween memory.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's because most Halloween, yeah memories are traumatic.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Got some way got my period? Got your period on
Halloween for the first time? Wow, mid trick or treat.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Mid trick or treating the worst time you missed out
on I.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Know, well, no, I kept going, kept going because Rachel
I was just like, what's happening? And I was also
sort of like, I don't my parents told me not
to go pee in someone else's house, but I know
something's going on, but I'm like too embarrassed it tell
the group.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It could have been like in Carry movie Carry and yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I was carry, Oh, that would have been perfect. It
was just it was just trigger treating while perioding myself
for the first times.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
My story is not nearly as interesting as that my
best costume. I had a couple that I thought were
pretty good. I like to make my make out up
and make my own thing. I don't like the sort
of store about stuff. So I had one year I
was the unfortunate somolier thinking in the wine world, so
I had a broken bottle on my head, lash of
glasses blood. And then another year I was the unfortunate golfer.
(42:35):
I grew up playing golf. I had I had a
golf ball sort of stuck to my forehead, and I
had modeling wax. You know, I do a little have
a little skill with with doing special effect stuff, and
I made it like it was embedded in my skull.
And those were good because they were very simple. But yeah,
you know, it's like you want to have something that's
like really when you see you're like you neque, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I get it. Yeah, unique, but not so you're not
standing there explaining it for forty minutes and they're like.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh yeah, not so obscure that it's like the golf ball.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
That rolled under the whatever in that golf movie. And see,
I don't even know what I'm saying. I was oat
milk one yere and that was I was like sexy
oat mill. That was simple. I don't ever really go
crazy like last year.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Was a nurse, right, but like a tag, I've.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Been like a lion. I'm just I'm just trying to
be Usually I find a piece of clothing that I
want to wear and then I build around that. I'm
like red bra top, I'm a devil. I take it
from there.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's kind of how kind of way you build a character.
Is it similar? No where did that start?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
That kind of starts from hopefully the script, but the oh,
like building an idea.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, either the idea, or you read something a character like, oh,
I'm beginning to feel this character, this thing.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
That's like something that you want to I guess it's
kind of similar to something you want to wear, something
you want to do, Yeah, you want to walk? Yeah,
you just find something that's like exciting and then from.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
There yeah yeah, does it come from the read just like, oh,
I start to feel a certain way.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I think you start to feel a certain way I do, Yeah,
you do?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I do?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sort of triggers something I don't
even know where it starts, and it just starts to
it starts to grow up, bubbles up.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
The red bra bubble up. That's perfect. So anyway, we're
gonna we're gonna come. When we come back, we're gonna
have this cool segment. It's called Spooky Season Showdown. You
and are going to take turns reading lines from iconic
Halloween characters. Try and guess which film it comes from.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
This is what I do.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
So when we come back, we're going to get into it. Okay,
we're back, Rachel, so have you here here?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
This is so good.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I'm having am so glad to hear it, and I
love how spooky we're getting. We're getting spooky.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
My hat.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Keep changing here, I don't know what's happening. Okay, this
is the spooky season showdown I talked about. Now that
we're back from our break, tell the people what you're wearing.
So I'm wearing a fetching number. I'm wearing satin blue,
baby blue, and there is a wig involved. It's my aunt, Sandy.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Head.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah. And now I have on my head a hat.
Oh yeah, appointed appointed hat.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I guess commonly referred to as a witch's hat.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
They're just misunderstood, but it feels good. Yeah. I just
kept my costume from before because I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
No, it's perfect and it suits you. Princess, Yeah, a princess. Okay,
So these are these are iconic lines from from scary movies,
horror movies, and we're gonna try and guess the movie
and possibly who may.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Have said it.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, I love it. So shall I go first?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I want to go first.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I smell a child. I smell a chi. I just
want to keep saying the lights. I smell a child.
Take two, Take three, Okay, this is a Michael Myers
Halloween b beetlejuice see Mary Sanderson Pocus Pocus Mary. I know.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I was like, that's that's a that's a girl, that's
a diva exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yes, yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
That was a fabulous raading.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I feel like it's
an audition maybe for your next book. Next thing.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, boom book boom, very nice.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Should I go? Do we go every other?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Every other? Yea?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Now I want to do the voice, but I'm not
really good at A person should always choose a costume
which is in direct contrast to her own personality. A. Okay, Lucy,
it's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, b Wednesday Adams, The
Adams Family, or see Lydia Deets beetlejuice.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
This is so funny because I feel like it's like,
and the winner is. I feel like we're reading an envelope.
I know that's Lucy.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
That's Lucy definitely.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah you said it, and I was like, I know
this because The Great Pumpkin Charlie Byn was one of
my favorite, if not.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
My last, favorite movie.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I wish I could remember how this voice sounded. But
I will try something. I excel without even trying with
the slightest little effort of my ghost like charms. A.
Jack Skellington The Night maybefore Christmas, Casper from Casper, Coraline
from Coraline.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I want to say, Jack Skelling.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
You're correct, you are correct.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I was giving Jack Skelling to me.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
I was trying to make myself and more skeletony.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yes, you nailed it. He has sort of like the coal.
You nail that.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
I'm here to help, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I'm just like any modern woman trying to have it all,
loving husband, a family. It's just I wish I had
more time to seek out the dark forces and join
their hellish crusade. Sally the Nightmare before Christmas. Be more
to Adams, the Adams Family see grand Hi Witches the Witches.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Oh God, I want to say more tissue because I
just happened to love that.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
That's right?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yes, you're read. Was brilliant. I got Angelica Houston right
out of the boom. Okay, here we go. Death has
come to your little town, Sheriff. Now you can either
ignore it you can help me stop it. A Sydney
Prescott scream B Loomis Halloween see Nancy Thompson A nightmare
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on Elm Street. I want to say a, but if
you had to choose another one.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
He leads the witness.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yes, you are right.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
I wanted to say a, but I didn't, and so why,
which is why I said be me. This one is
like fun, I don't I think I saw this a
really long time ago. But since when is being a
slut a crime in this family? Means my mom a
Jillian Owens practical magic, b aunt Fran practical magic, or
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c Sally Owens practical magic?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
So we know the movies smoke, Holy freaking practical magic.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Is practical magic. It's correct. So you got that part right.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Okay, you said aunt Fran was one, right. I don't
think it's ant Fan.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
It's Gillian Sally or aunt Fran.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
It's Sandra saying it.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah you're right, yeah, yeah, not a.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Reflection of her. I just feel like that she's a
tried to deliver.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah you did good, tough, exactly, well done.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Thank you, thanks for having it out.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Fun, I really did it.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
This is good.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I mean, I don't know if we solved the question
what are we even doing? But we had a good
time doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
We had a five of time doing it.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
You're so wonderful.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
You're wonderful.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I'm excited for what's coming for you, the future. I
want to see the stuff you're doing so far is
so great. I'm really and hopefully it's going to continue. No, No,
you're you have something to.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Say, which I'm really excited about.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
So we.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Do.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia
and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle
McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture Productions Yay,
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(50:42):
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Speaker 3 (50:57):
Exclamation points
A queen is ever late. Everyone else is simply early.
It's sex in the city out heavy is the head,
that is the ground. I know we thought that one
we should do merge any I don't know. I'm a dessert.
I would be like, I can't wait for the next
terrible thing to happen in my personal life. Since one
is being a slut a crime in this family means
my mom uh huh, look like my aunt Sandy Red
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braw Top. I'm a devil. My art made sweeting about
being morney. Oh my god, I need a wine business.
Hitting the mic with the macha. If you can't see this,
it's on you, trickle Kyle, shooting is really difficult to
pick your head up, Queen, your crown's falling.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
What do we even do? What are we even doing?
Welcome to the Haunted Show. I'm a huge Halloween fan.
We would do a Halloween hallway in New York and
my apartment in New York.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh my god, Well, all.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The kids would have to come in and hit We
had a long entrance hallway and they have to come
all the way to the end of the cauldron, the
bubbling cauldron to get their candy. So it's challenging and
it was full of full of crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But that's you want to be that house because then
everyone's like, we got to get there first.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
That's we had great candy, full.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Size, none of this little bullshit bullshow.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, we're going deep.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We're we're going hey, hello everyone. I know I look
a little different. This is our Halloween episode. I can't
wait to introduce who's here with me? But I'm gonna
hold out for a minute because our host, I'm your host.
Not forget that, ah, the pressure of Halloween. This is
where we sit down on our podcast. What are we
even doing? They're gonna cut all this anyway. This is
(01:39):
where we sit down with actors, musicians, creatives. We talk process,
we talk creativity, we talk about how they're shaking up
the wonderful world of the Internet. It's wild and willy,
and we're gonna get crazy and we're gonna get weird,
but in a good way. And tonight, oh, I can
say tonight because it's a Halloween night. Tonight, we have
a brilliant and hysterical actress, this writer producer known for
(02:04):
the film's bottom Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, Shiva Baby, what's the
trailer of that. It's fantastic. I used to be funny
and more. This is the original, the one and only
Trickily Child aka Rachel Sennett. I am so happy to
see you. You are unbelievable. Cheers, thank you, thank you,
(02:26):
thank you for having me this little different too.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I know, I just thought i'd throw this on. I
was feeling spooky as well. Honestly, one of my favorite movies.
Do you love the movie?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
A great movie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It's such a great movie.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's a great movie.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You look like.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The princess, like a prince.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Shut up, you look like a princess. The question is
do I look like a queen?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
A queen?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yes, you know you walk and honestly very Julie Andrews
when I walked in, very gracious, yes, welcoming, quiet.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, yes, somewhat regal, somewhat.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
At yes yeah yeah yeah but still.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Warm Yes, she has warm. She has some banger lines
and that I love. A queen is never late. Everyone
else is simply early. That I need to start saying
that ship. I need to start saying that ship when
I'm late. Queen is ever late. Everyone else is simply early.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh, this is princess.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Princess Diaris of course, and.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Of course this is an homage.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
An homage, an homage reference.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yes, yes, yes, we're crowned. We're ready to go, ready
to go. I'm going to Christal walking Land. That's not
I always end up there.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's a great place to go.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I am happy.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I want.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm so just excited to meet you because you're so creative.
You have so many different things going on. I want
to know your beginning. So you started, It's like, this
is what I want to do. What moment I.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Think, well, first of all, same, I'm so excited to
hang because we talked about this, but like we our
friendship began.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
On TikTok, Yes it did.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We were sort of engaging with each other on we
were sort of making tiktoks of each other, you know, commenting,
And then we got to meet and hang briefly at
the Blenciaga.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Show, which is a nice place to meet.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's a fabulous place to meet. All the lights are off,
it's completely dark, the music. It's like, so I be
like hi.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Later.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We both have jet lag. It's yeah, constipated from flying
to Paris. It's just that was the vibe. It was
perfect perfect vibe, perfect vibe. But now we can get
Now we can get into it, you know, learn about
each other, go deep. I would say, like, I definitely
was like one of those kids that I always knew
(04:41):
I wanted to do this, even if I didn't really
get what it was at first, I always had the instinct.
I was always like making stuff. I was forcing my
siblings to be and like my music video that I made,
or like plays that I would write and direct, and like, really,
because I come from a big family, seven people.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, that is a big family, big family, creative family
or were you kind of the.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I was kind of the creative one. Now my baby
sister is in fashion school, so shout out she's in
New York, New te and so shout out Lizzy. Lizzie's
I don't know, oh sorry, shout out Lizzie. She's joining
me on the creative side. I'm like, it's you and me.
We're going to events together.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes, yes, oh good good include.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
She she came to one of the Blenciaga shows, not
the one I don't know if the one you were at, but.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
One that was the show in Paris. Ye, that that
one we.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Sat that one, we said that one. We sat that one,
but the basically like mostly no, everyone everyone does really
different things, which is so interesting. Like my older sister
is a teacher.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I do this, I'm performing in it. I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's true. But still my brother, oh my god, we
scared because I don't know what his job is. But
I think it has to do with insurance.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Okay, I'm so sorry he's scared.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He is my brother and I love him. Yes, that's amazing.
And my sister works in politics.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Wow, and then Range, so range.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But they were forced to be creative when we were
growing up because I made that.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Good for you. So New York based kind of growing up.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Born in Massachusetts, grew up in Connecticut. My dad worked
in New York, very very tri state area. And then
I went to n y U and moved to New York.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, yeah, how was that n YU experience?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You know, you know this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
This is I'm assuming you were there in the drama
world and the creative.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yes, I went. I went to TISH, I went to
the acting program. Like looking back, I have beautiful memories,
but life has only gotten better. Tell me if you agree,
as I've gotten older.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Anytime I look back at when I was younger, I'm
sort of like I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, yeah, yeah, out a little bit a little. So
you went through a training program, acting training program. I
went through an acting training program on the other coast
US up in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh seeh oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That yeah, that goes the way up in the middle
of nowhere at the University of Washington. And it was
three years and it was intense. I was terrible, and
but I but I did love it, and I had
but I didn't really know what I just knew that
this was something that I liked. Yeah, I didn't know
where do you go with this?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
What happens?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And they don't tell you at school? No, you can
ask as many times as Yeah. I literally was like,
how do you get a job? They were like, we can't,
that's not what this is about.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I was like, but how do we pay for all
of the school And they were like, you don't have
to worry about that. It's just not what we're concerned about.
You need to learn the Shakespeare monologue and perform it
in a dark room.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Student loans yes, and that happens later.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's yeah, right now, be present in the Shakespeare scene.
And so I felt a little lost, I think, and
I felt I was very anxious. I didn't feel very
like in myself. I think what is great about college
and I think for a lot of people, and also
living in New York, I felt like I really came
into myself piece by piece, you know, not all at once,
(08:17):
and you kind of experiment with different personalities sort of
like I went from being like super like repressed, very religious,
to being like it's sex in the city out here,
I'm hooking up and I'm doing stuff all the time,
you know what I mean. Like I took it there
and then I think I like found my rhythm, I
(08:40):
found my friends, Like I feel very my favorite part
of college, I think is the friends that I made
while I was there, because a lot of them are
still my best friends today and like I've got to
make stuff with them or watch them go off and
make stuff, and like, I feel like I have a
very strong community. And there's something about someone knowing you
when you're like eighteen years old falling down a flight
(09:01):
of stairs at a frat party or something. They're They're like,
You're like you you have my back for real.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So you did a ten frat party, so that that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I did a couple, but I was more, honestly, probably worse.
I was like going to like open mics and falling
downstairs there. I was going to Chinese like you did
you do?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I don't know, maybe you shall know that is so,
that is so brave. I have really never tried that,
and I don't I mean, that's like another level. Are
you sure?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It seems like I think you would be fabulous.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't know. I really don't know. I freaky.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I think you would be fabulous because you have a
point of view, you have stage press, you know what
I mean. It's the same thing as acting. It's just
like talking, but it's acting.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Acting is because you can hide.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's a drain.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That could be my thing. I could be. I could
be the sit down comic. That would be it, and
I would just never get I would just sit in
a chair.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That would be fabulous.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, my idea.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But I do feel like an acting you know, I'm
in the year behind the character, right.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, you're sort of a little bit protected. Yes, whereas
you as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Doing stand up, you're like a robe or maybe or
maybe you create a character for the stand up.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, a little bit, maybe, I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I think so, I think. I mean, I've been I've
been like thinking about this a lot recently because I
feel like I sort of like created a persona that
was based off of truth, you know what I mean.
But then you sort of heighten yourself and then you
almost are like, now am I doing stuff to write
about it? Or is that? You know what I mean?
It becomes this push and pull where sometimes it's like
(10:47):
I would be like, I can't wait for the next
terrible thing to happen in my personal life so I
can have a bit you know. It was so much
fun some of the time, like doing doing a monthly
show with they showed my friend Moss that was so
fun called puke Fest, and it was the term get it,
(11:08):
we should do mergers?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah yeah, I would sell.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But it was like we did it in a basement
in his apartment in like Crown Heights and totally illegal.
It was like a hundred college students in the basement
in this like tiny apartment, and we would like buy
alcohol in bulk because we would like protect I think
we like pretended to be a liquor store so we
(11:32):
could buy hard.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Alcohol complicated, it's illegal.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But now time has gone by and it's fine.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's no longer legal.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
They're not going to get the statue of limitations and
you're fine, Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So we would pour shots all over the table, like
we set up tables, and then for each comedian we
would do like a rule like this comedian talks about
like this a lot. Every time they bring up like
their mom or whatever, blah blah blah, you take a shot.
People would get blackout because it was like with the
(12:08):
rules would literally be like anytime somebody's wearing a flannel
like it's like so we would just be drinking these
like lukewarm shots and then everyone would be trashed and
then turn into a party.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It was really it's a good idea, Well, because you
should do it now. Well here, yeah, you got your
macha and I've got my I've got my coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is what it's come to to come.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, if we're mature, we're past that.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
We are sort of past. Yeah here, what's in here?
What's in here?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I want to ask you this, did you the persona online?
He's not a persona?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Or because when you're hanging with your crew.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
What like my persona online right now? Well, more like Twitter? Yeah,
I think when I was on Twitter, that's when I
feel like I had like a persona sort of but
it came out of a very real place. Like it's
like I was actively Like I think that's the most
I feel like my art was like my art me
(13:12):
tweeting about being horny, but like I it was like
it's art. It was like it was immediate, like it
was like I felt something, Bam, I was I was.
So I think it was also very like manic at
the time, which sometimes being manic is it's so much
better than being depressed. It's so much more like up.
(13:34):
You know, yeah yeah, and you have energy and you
know you're a little shaky, but it's good.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And so I was really like just actively like as
something would happen to me, I was like writing about
it and putting it out there.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It's very brave for you. Did you think there's, oh,
you have any hesitation at all? You were like, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Just going no, I had hesitation. Later when people like
I think it was it was interesting. I was in
sort of like an on and off relationship that I
was getting I was putting a lot of jokes into
whatever that are writing about or whatever. And now I'm like,
when you're in a healthy relationship, You're like, I would
never do you know what I mean? I would never
(14:11):
like put all of this in here. If I was
going to find a story from my relationship, I would
give it air to breathe. That would put it in
the script, that would put it with the character. Yes,
because I'm thirty now now mature, But at the time
it was so immediate, I felt like I almost kept
doing the character. After I was growing away from the character,
(14:37):
and then I took a little space away from Twitter
and the Internet, and like now I feel like I
what I hope this show can do is be a
way for me to like take experiences and things that
I want to share, because like a lot of times
I have like an experience where I'm like this is
interesting to this is something I want to talk about
(14:58):
or whatever are.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You talking about?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I love that?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yes, yes, yeah, and you show yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
show exactly. I was going to say, what seems to
me is what's happening is you're taking all these creative impulses,
all these like Oh that's a real moment. Oh that's
a real moment. I really feel this and just putting
it out there on Twitter, right, which is what's interesting,
you know, to lay it out there. And now you
have the show which I watched the first episode. It's
really good. I'm so happy and it's quite I mean,
(15:24):
you you wrote it, you created it, you produced it.
Your character in that is I mean, I think it's
a fantastic character. But it's maybe it's maybe it's the
more serious character. Yeah, she's the she's the person who's
who is sort of taken on adulthood, stepping into adulthood,
and yet all her friends are like woo yeah, crazy
and I and it's not easy to have that. But
(15:46):
I think you capture that. You're on the cusp, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, the world I think it was, I mean just
off of like what I was just saying, Like Maya Tulula,
who's played byas I, is amazing. She's so good, and
like I felt like Maya and Telula was almost like
a split of me and te Lula is kind of
that like me when I lived in New York, mean,
(16:11):
when I was a little more messy and free and
then Maya, I think is the how I felt when
I was sort of like isolating and stressed and anxious
and being like I need to make it to the
next thing and whatever, and I feel like my antela
are their best together. I feel like now I think
I've hopefully matured where I have a balance of both
of those things of like freedom and being able to
(16:35):
be in touch with my emotions and be a little messy,
but also like a little more maturity, a little more
a little more frontal lobe that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now you can see it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You can see it, you can see the we're both
I don't know, people know we're wearing crime. Of course
we are.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
People probably knew that intuitively.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yea, even if we weren't, we're wearing.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Were wearing you know what I mean. It's it's a
really I can't wait to see what happens in the
episodes because you've you set up the world really beautifully.
The characters are distinct at each have their own voice. Yeah,
I'm really impressed.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, thank you the whole cast. I was like, I
feel so lucky to have that cast.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
My gold my wig here ha.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Your beautiful golden block.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Thank you thank you. You're really if you can't see that,
you're really missing it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're really missing you want this is a visual episode.
I don't know what to tell you. I was just saying, like,
I got so lucky with the cast because I feel
like everyone brings something so specific to their character. Like
true Whittaker is someone who we cast her as a
lawnie and then we already had that character, but I
(17:45):
didn't feel like it was it was as interesting of
a character until we like she read and she just
has like such a unique comedic timing. She's so funny,
and I was like, Okay, now we're we running the
character to her voice to match her with the Like
Jordan Firshman, He's a good friend of mine. He's someone
who like improvises and adds to every line. Josh like,
(18:09):
I feel like I've been a fan of his for
so long. Same with Leyton. But in these roles they
switch and you see them in like totally different lights.
Yeah you know what I.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Mean, And they must have been because I think as
an actor or as a person joining in the business,
you want opportunity to show other sides. I mean, I
think you would do other sides yeah, and to work
with people that are, you know, extremely they're all extremely talented,
they all get the joke, you know, they're all telling
the story. It's well directed to the.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Rhythm of it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I mean, everything about it is. Guy, It's like it's
really I'm impressed.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm so glad you like it. Yeah, I feel like
I don't know when you're when you're making a first
season of a show, like like for over Compensating, for example, whatever,
like you have. Like Benny and I were talking about this,
it's like the first time you're doing it, like you're
you're you're finding the tone as you go, and then
you see the show and you're like, duh, that's the tone.
(19:05):
It's so funny whatever. It's like a balance. But like
you as you're making it, you're like creating the car
everything like it's for the first time, and it's like
it's kind of scary, and like when you're an actor
on the show, you're like, I think I feel this
all the time when I'm doing something, I'm like, am
I doing the same tone as everyone else? What tone
(19:26):
are we doing? Is this kind of can't be very serious?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And what's going on?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, am I doing well? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's intuitive, and it's also the director, I
mean somewhat of the director's sort of responsibility, sort of
we're hanging in this world. But at the same time,
you need stuff that like is crazy, yeah, and out
out of left field.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And just unusual because it's it's sparky.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, but finding that tone is really is really tricky.
But I think so much of that comes down to casting.
You have the right people like minded that are all
different in enough to bring something new.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Then if the.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Odds are better. There's never a guarantee, totally never never guarantee.
And I've been through a lot of stuff. It's like
you think, oh, this is gonna be great. Yeah, chemistry
is off.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You never know. You literally never know. It's so crazy
because you can have the best time ever doing something
and be like, h that was fabulous and everyone's like
we hate it. You could have a really bad time
doing something and everyone's like, this is the best thing
you've ever You don't know. It's so random. But then
you just have to be do you feel at this
point in your career you're kind of like, what is
that saying? Let go go go with go and go
(20:34):
with God.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Go go, go and go with God.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Let go and go What is it called? Let go
and let God?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like going like God, let go and let God?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, Like do you just feel.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yes? Yes, And that that does come with time and experience,
I think, because when I first started, I was much
more controlled and like got to you know, stay in
this and for God's sake. The first thing I did,
Dune was the first thing I did. And here is that.
You know, here's a guy that's under severe control.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, you know, very very strict.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And then I went off into Blue Velvet, which is
a completely different thing. The guy is kind of loose
and free and he's exploring sides of things and enjoying that.
So it was like the push and pull. But I
was blessed with working with David Lynch starting out, Vid Lynch,
who is I mean, was forgetting that one of the
greats of all time, you know, and not only as
(21:24):
a director but as a person as well. So, but
I think that the community you talked about earlier, the community,
and we I've now met and we've on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yes you're seeing my community your community.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, well with Harley too, I mean that's I
think I was. First, I was, you know, watching the videos.
We were doing stuff with it, and I was like,
wait a minute, who's that girl right there and that
one right there and and so that's Spark.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Series in the back of the visit.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, no, no, no, it's like yeah. It was like and
I was saying, and when I'm talking about like a
persona you had, there's a certain kind of a vibe
projecting within that world.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, she holds the whole audience like a packed insane crowd.
The energy she creates is like insane. And then like
but then you talk to her and she's so down
to earth and grounded and sweet and funny, like you
know what I mean, And it's cool to have that balance.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
How did y'all meet?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Okay, I was like I was like a fan. I
was just like tweeting at her, to be honest, like
back when I was on Twitter, I was like literally
like I'm crying to a Charlie song, like Charlie helped me.
My boyfriend doesn't want to date me. So it was
sort of like crazy behavior. But anyways, she watched Shiva
Baby and then like I think during COVID and like
(22:44):
reviewed it on her letter box and then like sort
of we like found each other online. I did her
podcast remotely, so we first met through that, okay, and
then she did a song for Bodies Buddies Bodies, which
was amazing, and then like I went to her show.
I went to I think I first went to her
(23:05):
show with the Greek that was incredible, and then it
was just I think it just sort of happened naturally,
and like, I think she genuinely wants to root for
and support other artists, and when she finds someone who's
stuff she likes, she's just like down, Like she she
did the score for Bottoms and like like she doesn't
(23:27):
need to do the score for a movie where we're
paying her five dollars, Like she doesn't need that. And
she was like I love to I'm down, like because
she like loves shit a baby and believed in me
and Emma and ioways like creator, you know what I mean.
And I just feel like she's always like looking for
ways to like bring different people together.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I agree, I agree, I think, and that was the
experience I think a.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Compensating Yeah, and he's like that too, you know, Yeah,
brings in his crew and like is really warm and
so funny yea, and like has the charisma where it's
like he's leading the show, but then also can make
everyone feel welcome on set and feel like they're at
(24:12):
like like almost like you're hosting a party.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah. And I feel like it's such gratitude. Both Charlie
and Benny is like they've they've been through it and
they really appreciate. Charlie in particular, she understands the journey. Yeah,
and she's and she has gratitude for the fact that
she's able to have success. Yes, and I think Benny
as well, and they they share that. They share that
with the.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
People that are around them.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And they're so welcoming, They're so happy that you're there.
They're so great soul that you're there. And that's just
that's a great world to be able to step into,
like a little film world, like our little crew, our
little posse that we have.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, it's like you want to have that.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Everyone is so happy that everyone is there, yea, everyone's
there to contribute.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Was it a dream filming? Was it so fun?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It was so fun?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, it was so fun. Yeah, it was just really
a joy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And you know, I met but I didn't know, and
now you know friends and follow them and stuff just
because And it's part of why I'm doing this this podcast.
There's a creative community that exists. It's much younger than me,
much different generation that I'm interested in and I'm curious about. Yeah,
what's happening, you know what's important, And it's just it's
like a there's a real sense of family. There's a
real sense of community. Yeah, like sharing and trading back
(25:21):
and forth.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I think a thousand percent. And I think also like
it feels like supportive in a way that I feel
like when I was like younger growing up, or like
when I was in acting school, was like told almost
like you watch like chorus line or something or like whatever,
and it's like all the girls like cutting up each
other's shoes and whatever. Yeah, and I feel like we're
(25:44):
really lucky to have this group. Like Benny, like he
was shooting while I was in the writer's room. Then
we were shooting while they were editing, So he's always
like a couple like months ahead of me in the process, right,
And I would be like, the writer's room is really hard.
I I think I'm like wearing pants. I can't think
of an idea and he was like, donht my love.
Shooting is really difficult, like whatever, Like giving.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You make you feel better? Ye hard?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, like giving having being able to, like I don't know,
like share less things you've learned or things that are
fun and whatever. Like it's it's cool to have that
and have that community.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I completely agree. And it's nice to hear that
they're sharing. And I I know what you mean. When
I was in school too, it's kind of everyone. You know,
you're all every person for themselves. Yeah, you know, you're
like okay, and you just do the best you can.
But yeah, they've been absolutely absolutely special. I want to
ask you about treaty Child and is it because I'm
so curious about the name and this name of your
(26:44):
production company too, isn't it? Is it not?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't think of any other words. I
was just like, it's already been Instagram, let's just use that.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
And yeah, it was available.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, it was no.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
One knows that word.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, And I was going to ask you so treakily,
I mean to you, I mean, I know it's a
sweet So it's okay. There's a couple of different version meanings.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So basically, when I was little, my family would call
me like a sticky child. It's like a little kid
that's like sucking on the top of their shirt and
there's like a little bit of spit here, or like
there's a little jelly here or something kind of messy.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So whenever touch you, like you're like, oh, yeah, was
in the chair and yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And so I looked for sticky child on Instagram when
I first met my Instagram, and it was taken. It's
taken crazy. So then I looked up synonyms for sticky
and trickly came up. And I also saw that it
meant like emotional or messy or like mound of something
(27:50):
like you know what I mean. And I was like, oh,
like man, also, it's a dessert.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yes, that's that's how I know.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
An you better know I'm a dessert. So I was like,
I'm doing this and then I just did it like randomly,
like this is like when I'm in high school, I think,
like I mean, so it's like I just had it,
like maybe it was when I first got to No,
I think it was like in high school. And then
I just made it and it didn't like I didn't
(28:16):
think like then I'll have Instagram like ten years from now,
and you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Were already thinking.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You already sort of had this idea in your head,
which I think is amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, so that's that's how it began.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, it's a good story.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's a good story.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I'm still looking for a name for me.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So what do you think?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So I have one that I like, but it's taken many, many,
many times. Yeah, just a number because and it's kind
of a I don't know, I mean, it's a nice
story to me. Anyway, the story isn't really nice, but
how what happened after the.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Story is good.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So my mom passed away January eleventh, eighty six, long
long time ago.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So it's one one one, and I didn't think much
about it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I mean, obviously I thought a lot about her passing,
but the fact they didn't think much about the day,
it's like, you know, But and then I started seeing
everywhere one one one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
One one one one would come up wow, like a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, and I was and I began to sort of go,
I think, wow, I think my mom's around. Yeah. Yeah,
it's not like I believe, you know, I'm like, they're people.
But I just said, oh, that's it's either I don't
know what's happening, obnestly you know, it's just happening. So
I whenever I see it, I just so I just
go hang mom, you know, and I think of her,
you know there, you know, for a minute, and then
(29:33):
I go onto my next thing.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's not like I sit there and d it or
feel sad. Yeah, it's just oh exactly, I think of her,
you know, and I'm reminded. And but it's all that
I said. That was one idea.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So I love that idea.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's a cool idea, and I liked you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That it means something to you. But it's not like
same with Trickly Child in a very different way. But
it's like you have to sort of not everyone knows
what the meaning is at a glance, do you know
what I mean? But you know, but it's sort of like,
oh what is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That a little bit of a mystery. Yeah, it has
power I think because because of that everything is.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, people don't necessarily know exactly what.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
What it is, what it is totally totally.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But I don't know. But but you know, treakily Kyle.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Kyle, we vote you you I we asserted the Trickly Wars.
I'm like literally like, hey, back off, back off my hand.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Trickly no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I feel like but I got a sense of this
is a very when we talked about claustrophobic, right.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I remember Emma Seligman, the writer director, being so like
being being so giving, so many like notes and thoughts
of being like, it's really got a hit because we
didn't have it was like a super indie movie. And
then we didn't have a film festival premiere because of COVID.
So I remember them being like this, we this is
(31:01):
all we have in Shiva. Baby. It's very much that
like end of college, sort of like when you're like,
oh shit, like I'm entering the real world, like what's
going to happen whatever? And then I feel like I
love la is a little bit more like end of
your twenties sat in Return, which I want to hear
(31:22):
about yours.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Remember in Return?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You do?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, wait what sign are you? Oh my god? Okay,
so here's the thing. I'm a virgo. So we're in
but that's together.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah we're perfect.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, yeah, we're perfect together.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We can make a whole person, We can.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Make all persons. Okay, we together, we could be normal,
and we strive, we can get really close. But it's
like you go through hard lessons in your early twenties
and then the middle of your twenties is sort of
evens out and you're like, oh, yeah, okay, or it's
COVID and you're just in your parents' basement. But then
in the end of your twenties you're sort of like,
wait a second, fuck, I'm about to be thirty, Like
(32:05):
is this my life? Or am I changing my whole life?
And then it like everything gets shaken up and you
land hopefully where you're supposed to land. Yeah, but that's
a little bit more the chaos, And I'll say it
hits different like being chaotic. When you're like twenty three,
you're like, I'm drinking in the daytime, I'm doing poppers outside.
(32:27):
I don't care because you know, you have time to
fuck up. When you're like twenty eight, you're having a
fuck up, but you're like, I have to go to
work tomorrow and I don't even know if I want
this job. And then am I keeping that my boyfriend?
Like it's so much more serious because it's not as
fun to be like messy and free, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Mean, Yeah, completely one side or the other. And that's
I love A lay is like that. I mean, got
your character in there's like you're trying to like hold
things together, yes, and your friend comes a visiting and
you're like ripping. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But do you remember did you have a moment at
the end of your twenties where you're like, everything's I
don't know what's happening, everything's getting shaken.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Up, still happening. Actually, no, I don't know what's happening. Yeah,
you know it was. It was definitely a move into
something else. So I had a long term relationship that
ended and then and then I kind of had a
little quick, short of relationship and then I got into
something else long again. I got him in my early thirties,
(33:25):
and it was I basically just sort of stepped away
from the business in a weird way, and I just
I got involved in the fashion world more in that
in that arena, and it was so interesting to me
because the film business was hard, yeah, and I was
and I was not. I was not progressing, So I
was kind of treading water and I said, well, this
(33:46):
isn't really working.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I don't know what else to do.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So I basically just took a holiday six year vacation.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Which is powerful. I think I don't be able, no,
but I think to be able to like.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Can I take my crownd just for a second?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Of course, heavy head the ground?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I know, heavy, it's so beautiful, but it's also a
little it's a little bit I'm gonna sitt here for
just one second.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But I think it's powerful to be like if this
is not if I'm not feeling like creatively fulfilled or
like inspire or whatever, or if I'm feeling frustrated, I
think there's something like in the same way that it's
like if you're dating someone and they're treating you like
shit and you're like, I'm good, love you walk away,
they go, where do you go?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I miss you? I need you? Sorry too late. Yeah,
But it's like I think, and finding other things that
fulfill you, because I do think it's a really brutal,
hard industry, and like I feel like since I graduated college,
there's been like there was COVID, there was a strike,
like all these things shifting and changing the industry, and
it's like so hard to ever feel like in control
(34:55):
or ground. You know, it never feels like enough. So
I think I think it's I think it's very powerful
to be creative.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Energy is very strong.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean between the acting, the producing, the writing, you know,
these are this is, this is, these are all powerful
forces at work. I think I felt with mine, I
was just like, you know what I'm I'm not really
going where I want to go. And I think, honestly,
I think I needed to grow up a little bit. Yeah,
I have a better understanding of what I was here
for and what I was doing. Even though I'd started
strong with David and then you know, it kind of
(35:26):
segued into and then Peaks was great, but there were
long periods of time where I was like, I just
I'm not Yeah, all cylinders are not working.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Also, sometimes when you have an amazing, like amazing experiences
early on, then it almost feels like how am I
ever going to match that?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, you know that's true.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That was part of the journey.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, where it's like or or sometimes I think it's
like you have an experience like the experience I had
on Ship a Baby was so like because no, there
was no expectation it was just us. It was like
our friends making a movie in one house. I was like,
this feels so intimate and fun and small. Then all
of a sudden, there's new pressure and there's all these
(36:08):
people to answer to and whatever, and it's like, how
do I get back the feeling of being with like
three of my friends in a little house. Yeah, and that, yes,
how do I get that? You know what I mean?
So it's like you're always chasing that initial high or experience.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. The other actors in She If
a Baby or so wonderful, the faces, the characters.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Molly Gordon is amazing. That's where I first met her
and now she's one of my best friends. Yeah, but like, yeah,
I was like, so I didn't realize how special it was,
I think until later where I was like that was crazy,
that was so special.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah. That's something else too, when you start like that,
the way I started working with really extraordinary people, kind
of going oh, so this is how it's done, and
not really understanding or appreciating it, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And later you're like, oh my god, yeah, not everyone's
on this level.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, that's an interesting thing to be able to understand,
you know, I don't know if it's if it's true,
because I'm so focused now on on overcompensating and so
kind of in the world of younger creatives. But it
feels like there's this movement, like a a young millennial
gen Z movement in the creative world that is compelling,
(37:26):
you know, And I'm working with with creatives like Benny
and some of the cast and watching your stuff, I'm going,
there's there's there are new voices that are coming up
that are very exciting. Do you feel like you're part
of a new wave or a new.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I would say, I feel like, yeah, there's like a
I call it my grade. I'm like, we're in the
same grade kind of okay, and I feel like our
grade is like coming or graduating or it's like we're
sort of like you look around and you're like, wait
a second. My friend as a show, like Benny is
(38:01):
a show, and then Owen's on an amazing show, and
he's also on Benny's show, Like you look around, Jordan's
on my show. He's directing his first movie, like Io
is like doing amazing movies, like huge dramatic movies, but
then still doing like funny comedy stuff. Molly's off making
a move like yeah, but I was writing something like
(38:22):
it's like I feel like my grade is like we
all came up together, and so it's cool to see
everyone like doing their thing and doing stuff together, but
doing you know, I think that's really special.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That's what I'm I'm I'm just just kind of.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Getting a sense of it.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I mean, as you can see, I'm kind of trying
to describe something.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I don't really know what I'm saying, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I feel like there is a lot of creative.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah right now.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, it's good in a certain group and all doing
interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
So yeah, I think I think I was. I feel
like we're hopefully leaving the period of our careers where
it's like just try starting or whatever. Like I think
people are getting to do their things, you know what
I mean, instead of like trying to prove themselves to
get to do the thing. It's like we're getting to
do the thing and make the stuff we want.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, And I do feel like, and I've talked about
this a little bit, is that there's there you try
a lot of different things, Like there's no thinking back
to my let's say, my generation where you kind of
not staying your lane necessarily.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
But you're an actor.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, maybe you do a little bit of something here there,
But in this generation, everything everything.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I'm a video ho, I'm a writer, I'm show running,
I'm doing you know what I mean. You get to dabble.
It's really fun.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
The only thing that's hard about dabbling is that I'm like,
the schedule gets overwhelming, and then you want to do everything,
you know what I mean? Yeah, that part is tricky,
but I think it's it's really freeing to be able
to do different stuff. And for me that came from
a place of being like, no one's ever going to
cast me in anything. I better write something, you know
what I mean. But then you're like, oh, I love writing,
(40:02):
you know. But like you get to do multiple things
and you're doing that too. I am now yeah, podcasting, acting, like.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Wine business and everything love.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, and that is oh my god, I need a
wine business.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
You guys are drinking all the time. Yes, I gotta
do that.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Do you enjoy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Okay, not like crazy, but why I like wine?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, it's nice with food.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I like it with.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Food with cheese and I can't even eat cheese, but
I do with the right wine just because I get
really party. But it's like just like friends, Yeah, you
have to be around friends, or it's like you leave
in time and then you go be alone, you know,
or you go where it's summer.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Son and and you don't and you don't like.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Whatever, deal with it. Get it good for him.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This is so, this is our Halloween episode. But of course,
as you can tell, because looking at us, we are
crazy and drested, very strange. How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You started it? No, we went started.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And the set is supporting our Halloween Yeah, totally sorry.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
If you can't see this, it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
If you can't see this, it's on you like, turn
it on, turn it on the camera.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Come on, get busy. So I did come up with
an idea for a little segment just for some fuff.
It's called Spooky Season Showdown. But before we get to that,
let me ask you about like a favorite Halloween costume maybe,
or Halloween memories.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I have a traumatic Halloween memory.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's because most Halloween, yeah memories are traumatic.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Got some way got my period? Got your period on
Halloween for the first time? Wow, mid trick or treat.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Mid trick or treating the worst time you missed out
on I.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Know, well, no, I kept going, kept going because Rachel
I was just like, what's happening? And I was also
sort of like, I don't my parents told me not
to go pee in someone else's house, but I know
something's going on, but I'm like too embarrassed it tell
the group.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It could have been like in Carry movie Carry and yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I was carry, Oh, that would have been perfect. It
was just it was just trigger treating while perioding myself
for the first times.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
My story is not nearly as interesting as that my
best costume. I had a couple that I thought were
pretty good. I like to make my make out up
and make my own thing. I don't like the sort
of store about stuff. So I had one year I
was the unfortunate somolier thinking in the wine world, so
I had a broken bottle on my head, lash of
glasses blood. And then another year I was the unfortunate golfer.
(42:35):
I grew up playing golf. I had I had a
golf ball sort of stuck to my forehead, and I
had modeling wax. You know, I do a little have
a little skill with with doing special effect stuff, and
I made it like it was embedded in my skull.
And those were good because they were very simple. But yeah,
you know, it's like you want to have something that's
like really when you see you're like you neque, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I get it. Yeah, unique, but not so you're not
standing there explaining it for forty minutes and they're like.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh yeah, not so obscure that it's like the golf ball.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
That rolled under the whatever in that golf movie. And see,
I don't even know what I'm saying. I was oat
milk one yere and that was I was like sexy
oat mill. That was simple. I don't ever really go
crazy like last year.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Was a nurse, right, but like a tag, I've.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Been like a lion. I'm just I'm just trying to
be Usually I find a piece of clothing that I
want to wear and then I build around that. I'm
like red bra top, I'm a devil. I take it
from there.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's kind of how kind of way you build a character.
Is it similar? No where did that start?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
That kind of starts from hopefully the script, but the oh,
like building an idea.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, either the idea, or you read something a character like, oh,
I'm beginning to feel this character, this thing.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
That's like something that you want to I guess it's
kind of similar to something you want to wear, something
you want to do, Yeah, you want to walk? Yeah,
you just find something that's like exciting and then from.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
There yeah yeah, does it come from the read just like, oh,
I start to feel a certain way.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I think you start to feel a certain way I do, Yeah,
you do?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I do?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sort of triggers something I don't
even know where it starts, and it just starts to
it starts to grow up, bubbles up.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
The red bra bubble up. That's perfect. So anyway, we're
gonna we're gonna come. When we come back, we're gonna
have this cool segment. It's called Spooky Season Showdown. You
and are going to take turns reading lines from iconic
Halloween characters. Try and guess which film it comes from.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
This is what I do.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
So when we come back, we're going to get into it. Okay,
we're back, Rachel, so have you here here?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
This is so good.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I'm having am so glad to hear it, and I
love how spooky we're getting. We're getting spooky.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
My hat.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Keep changing here, I don't know what's happening. Okay, this
is the spooky season showdown I talked about. Now that
we're back from our break, tell the people what you're wearing.
So I'm wearing a fetching number. I'm wearing satin blue,
baby blue, and there is a wig involved. It's my aunt, Sandy.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Head.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah. And now I have on my head a hat.
Oh yeah, appointed appointed hat.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I guess commonly referred to as a witch's hat.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
They're just misunderstood, but it feels good. Yeah. I just
kept my costume from before because I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
No, it's perfect and it suits you. Princess, Yeah, a princess. Okay,
So these are these are iconic lines from from scary movies,
horror movies, and we're gonna try and guess the movie
and possibly who may.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Have said it.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, I love it. So shall I go first?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I want to go first.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I smell a child. I smell a chi. I just
want to keep saying the lights. I smell a child.
Take two, Take three, Okay, this is a Michael Myers
Halloween b beetlejuice see Mary Sanderson Pocus Pocus Mary. I know.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I was like, that's that's a that's a girl, that's
a diva exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yes, yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
That was a fabulous raading.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I feel like it's
an audition maybe for your next book. Next thing.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, boom book boom, very nice.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Should I go? Do we go every other?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Every other? Yea?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Now I want to do the voice, but I'm not
really good at A person should always choose a costume
which is in direct contrast to her own personality. A. Okay, Lucy,
it's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, b Wednesday Adams, The
Adams Family, or see Lydia Deets beetlejuice.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
This is so funny because I feel like it's like,
and the winner is. I feel like we're reading an envelope.
I know that's Lucy.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
That's Lucy definitely.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah you said it, and I was like, I know
this because The Great Pumpkin Charlie Byn was one of
my favorite, if not.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
My last, favorite movie.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I wish I could remember how this voice sounded. But
I will try something. I excel without even trying with
the slightest little effort of my ghost like charms. A.
Jack Skellington The Night maybefore Christmas, Casper from Casper, Coraline
from Coraline.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I want to say, Jack Skelling.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
You're correct, you are correct.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I was giving Jack Skelling to me.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
I was trying to make myself and more skeletony.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yes, you nailed it. He has sort of like the coal.
You nail that.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
I'm here to help, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I'm just like any modern woman trying to have it all,
loving husband, a family. It's just I wish I had
more time to seek out the dark forces and join
their hellish crusade. Sally the Nightmare before Christmas. Be more
to Adams, the Adams Family see grand Hi Witches the Witches.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Oh God, I want to say more tissue because I
just happened to love that.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
That's right?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yes, you're read. Was brilliant. I got Angelica Houston right
out of the boom. Okay, here we go. Death has
come to your little town, Sheriff. Now you can either
ignore it you can help me stop it. A Sydney
Prescott scream B Loomis Halloween see Nancy Thompson A nightmare
(48:36):
on Elm Street. I want to say a, but if
you had to choose another one.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
He leads the witness.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yes, you are right.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
I wanted to say a, but I didn't, and so why,
which is why I said be me. This one is
like fun, I don't I think I saw this a
really long time ago. But since when is being a
slut a crime in this family? Means my mom a
Jillian Owens practical magic, b aunt Fran practical magic, or
(49:18):
c Sally Owens practical magic?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
So we know the movies smoke, Holy freaking practical magic.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Is practical magic. It's correct. So you got that part right.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Okay, you said aunt Fran was one, right. I don't
think it's ant Fan.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
It's Gillian Sally or aunt Fran.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
It's Sandra saying it.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah you're right, yeah, yeah, not a.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Reflection of her. I just feel like that she's a
tried to deliver.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah you did good, tough, exactly, well done.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Thank you, thanks for having it out.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Fun, I really did it.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
This is good.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I mean, I don't know if we solved the question
what are we even doing? But we had a good
time doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
We had a five of time doing it.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
You're so wonderful.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
You're wonderful.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I'm excited for what's coming for you, the future. I
want to see the stuff you're doing so far is
so great. I'm really and hopefully it's going to continue. No, No,
you're you have something to.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Say, which I'm really excited about.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
So we.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Do.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia
and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle
McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture Productions Yay,
featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For
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Speaker 3 (50:57):
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