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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about Nicki Glazer's jokes on her recent
appearance on Saturday Night Live. A freak accident that killed
a father and son, yet another failure in the justice system,
this time in a high school rapist is walking free,
How fame ripped apart, America's most inbred family, and a
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procedure that could change your eye color. What could possibly
be controversial about that? All that and more on today's episode,
What's up with this SNL? They're just like, I don't know,
it just seems like like clickbait kind of I guess
you would say.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, I guess let me get into it first and
I'll say my opinion about it. So Nicki Glazer hosted
SNL this weekend, and she delivered her monologue as every
single SNL host does, and unlike the celebrities, most of
the time, stand ups will do their own jokes, not
the ones that SNL writers have written. So she did
a bunch of controversial jokes at the beginning of it,
(01:21):
which is not atypical for her. She's always doing controversial stuff.
But I guess what people are really upset about is
part of it was she was talking about if she
were to take a shower with her four year old nephew,
what if she ended up becoming attracted to him? Because
how did pedophiles end up becoming pedophiles? Like, what's the
point they become pedophiles?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I guess everybody's really upset about that because joking
about pedophilia to most people is not okay.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess you could go
both ways with this. It's like number one, comedians always
say things that are I mean good one anyway, there's
no point if you're if you can't like let it
all out and I mean right that that's that. I
(02:09):
like that part of comedy when comedians aren't being censored
for what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But on the other hand, I just think about whenever
it almost reminds me of we were talking about this
in our YouTube life the what's her name Kristen Bell, Yeah,
and what's her husband's.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Name, dak Shepherd.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
They did.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
They did a post a couple of weeks ago making
light of the fact that she gets on her husband's
nerves so much that she wouldn't be surprised if he
killed her one day or something like that. It was
like some reference to killing your wife, right, And it
was Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and a lot of people
were just like, dude, you aren't. Aren't. Isn't she like
(02:57):
Elsa from from Frozen?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, So like people are following her because because she's
like a Disney character. And then there's people who are
in domestic abuse situations and it's not funny to them,
and and people don't want to they don't want to
hear that as a joke, that like their reality is
a joke. And I was thinking about the same thing.
You know, there's there's a parent right now, at least one,
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but we know there's multiple parents right now that just
found out that their kids got molested by an adult.
And there might be a point that they might want
to sit down and just watch TV and watch something
like Saturday Night Live so they could laugh because they're
going through the most terrible thing a parent could go
through besides their kid getting killed, right, And and like
to hear that which not just not just a parent
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going through it, but definitely there's lots of people in
that audience and lots of people watching that are victims
of that as well. So it's just kind of like
an upsetting thing like that that people don't want to
really think about during a portion when they're supposed to
be laughing. Right.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I really like her stand up a lot. I do
think she missed the mark with this one. I honestly
can't believe NBC allowed this, especially with how shitty this
show has been for at least the last twenty years.
They just don't do anything funny anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
They don't well that's the thing, Like they don't care,
and they're not they haven't been funny for years, right,
but they don't care because ultimately every single person's talking
about Saturday Night Live and clicking to watch the video
and that's kind of sad, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, but I always reference this. Colin jo just wrote
a book and he has an entire chapter called Notes
from Advertisers or something, and it's like something the advertisers said, like,
you absolutely can't make a joke about this during the show,
And when you like see the censorship from the advertisers,
you're like, Okay, this is like so stupid and ridiculous,
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and it just it just makes me think of that
because they certainly when they have had stand ups on
in the last couple of years, they do push it
a little bit more, especially when they have Shane Gillett,
you know, more controversial people on. But I just really,
I really just can't even believe they let her say this. Honestly,
I feel like they knew it was gonna get backlash.
But to your point, it's getting them views. They haven't
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been getting many views in years, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's the weirdest part of this story. I mean, the
jokes whatever. The weirdest part of this story is is
her talking about taking a shower with her nephew, Like
when is that ever? That's just kind of weird. Yeah,
that's what I was gonna say, take a shower in
front of your kids, Like my kids have seen me naked,
but I wouldn't get undressed in front of my sister's kid.
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, it's it is inappropriate, and it's like, I think
she just didn't deliver. I doubt she does that in
real life, and I think she just really misdelivered the
joke and it wasn't well thought out, because I think
she really does do a good job of having that
good mix of controversial but not pushing it too far.
I think this one definitely pushed it too far. She's
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supposed to host the Golden Globes in January. I wonder
if that's gonna be affected because of this. Personally, it's
like I can see Kristen Bell made that joke. I
could see Nicki Glazer made this joke. I don't think
they should be canceled. I just think they took it
too far, right, But you know people are they're gonna
want death to the death to them all over a
bad joke, right, So I think it's bullshit of CBS.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I'm not a fan of I'm not a fan
of canceling people in general. I just it's just like
sometimes you might just have to reel people in a
little bit because because there's always gonna be the next
one upper and the next one upper, and like people
are probably upset too because of this, this whole movement
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of a certain amount of people that think it's okay
to be attracted to children, and like, we just it's
something that we need to make a hard line and
say that this is just never gonna be okay, you
know what I mean, Like it's just something that needs
to get realed in and stopped before it goes any further.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, no, totally.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean, I just think it was a poor choice
of something to say, and she wasn't thinking. Maybe she
was thinking nobody watches this show, nobody will hear it seriously.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's definitely not happening.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I know I'm making a joke because their ratings are
so notoriously terrible, But I think she'll be fine from this.
I don't think it was a smart choice, but I'm
number one, like pedophiles should be set on fire.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I hate pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Obviously, I'm not gonna stop listening to her stand up
because of this. I just think she didn't execute it
like she thought she was.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I wonder do they have to give them like their
whole list of jokes that they're going to say ahead
of time? Oh totally they can't, don't you know, Like
Snead O'Connor and a couple other people have gone rogue
on there. Do you think maybe she went rogue?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't think so, because I think that information would
have come out by now.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean maybe they just I don't know the
show maybe listen, Maybe they think it. Maybe they think
it's okay to do this with children, and that's why
they don't care. Like, who the hell knows what people
think anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I just think people, I think they're all comedians that
work there, so they all don't take offense to it
like a normal person does, because you could talk about
literally anything and somebody will take offense to it, right,
So I think when you're a comedian, you're really just
desensitized to a lot of things like that. And I
think a lot of them really just didn't think it
would get them out of backlash that it is. But
(08:38):
I think people are also making it a way bigger
deal than it is, and I just I don't know.
I think I don't think she should issue an apology
over it or anything, but like everybody just needs to
understand she didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Land that willing in yeah really really in not appropriate,
all right.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
A man in his teenage some were on vacation in
Laos and while ziplining, they were swarmed by wah stung
dozens of times, and both of them ended up dying yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mean, when you're on vacation and you die, unfortunately,
you're subject to whatever happening in the hospital systems and
the medical examiner system or corner whatever they have going
on there. So I don't think that they're getting a
whole ton of information, but just saying that they went
into anaphylaxis and they died. The doctor at the hospital
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did say that each one of them had over one
hundred stings to their bodies, and the son had died
within a half hour of getting there and the father
died within a couple hours of getting there. So what
happens during anophylaxis is that there's lots of different things
that happened to the body, but one of which is
that you could get this enormous amount of swelling in
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your throat that could close off your air supply, along
with having changes in blood pressure, a drastic drops in
blood pressure, difficulty breathing, and things like that. So that
probably was a parent right away in this case. This
could happen by people that aren't stung by murder hornets,
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just a regular well lon firm.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
They were murder hornets.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They didn't know which ones they were well, but they
live there, it doesn't. That doesn't even that doesn't, that
doesn't matter what it is like, it could happen with
any wasp if you're allergic to it, but once you
get stung by multiple wasp like that, it's it's it's
like anybody can die from that. So even though you know,
if they each got stung once and they both died,
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you might say, oh, they're related and they might genetically
have this allergy that they that runs in their family
or something like that. But I think that no one
would have a chance. And one interesting thing about wasps
is that if you come across a colony of them,
if one of them sends out a pheromone to all
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of their friends, they like all come and sting. Oh
my god, that's so scary. Yeah, it is so scary.
So it happened. A little kid at at the girls
school a couple of years ago got stung by five
wasps in the in the playground. And a little kid
she was she was maybe in third grade or second girl,
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like she was a little girl, and they called it
right rightfully, so called nine one one right away because
that much it stings in a small body like that.
You know, they took her to the hospital and everything,
and she ended up being fine, thank God. But it's
it's really scary, and it's something what a freak thing
for that to happen on vacation.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, that's terrible, and you know, I hate that my
mind goes here, but I had written that article about
what happens when you die abroad, and I just think
of how expensive that must have been for their families
and how complicated it was to get their bodies back here.
And it's just an added layer of trauma onto this
already horrific event for this family.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know, it's interesting because there's there's a chance for
my kids, one of my daughters to go on this
trip to go to the Dominican Republic for to go
build houses or do some habitat for humanity type thing.
It's not that particular organization, but she so she wants
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to go, and I keep saying, well, you can go
if you want to go, but like me and Daddy
are going too, We'll just say we'll stay in another hotel.
And she thinks that that's a little excessive, and I'm
just like, well, what if something happens and you're all
the way there and it's going to take me hours
just to get on an airplane and actually even get there,
And like, I'm going to show her this story later
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and be like this is exactly why, Like these people
thought that they were ziplining and all of a sudden
they were in a hospital dead somewhere.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I mean, now that you say that, upon reflection, I
can't believe you let me go to France by myself
as a teenager. But you were secretly pregnant and hadn't
told me.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Now that's not the reason, but you went and you
were weren't you like eighteen?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I was seventeen.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You were seventeen years old, like she's twelve. There's just
a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
No, totally, you know what.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I believe they would take them on an international trip
that young.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh yeah, like and and it's cool. I think it's
a cool opportunity. But I'm just not that mom to
be like, Okay, go with the chaperone that I barely know. Like, no,
I'd rather be in the vicinity.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You don't have to look at me the entire trip.
I'll be like sitting on a beach somewhere drinking non
alcoholic coconut Margarita stright, but like just I just want
to be there in case something happens.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Call me crazy, you are crazy, all right. This next
story a listener sent in, which I'm thankful for because
I didn't see much coverage on it, and we have
talked about it's ridiculous. So last year, this star high
school baseball player was arrested and charged with felony counts
of rape after he attacked two sixteen year old girls,
leaving one of them close to death after being choked unconscious.
So now all the charge, after all these charges, he
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was facing up to eighty years in prison, and he
got this ridiculous plea deal that allowed.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Him to just walk free. So he's not going to
jail at all.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I just don't understand this at all.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So originally he got arrested when he was seventeen, but
he was charged as an adult, and then he made
this plea deal where then he could be charged as
a miner instead, and then I guess wherever he lives.
So he was facing up to eighty years in prison,
and I guess because they switched it to a miner,
he's now getting charged as a miner would for crimes
like this and now he basically just has probation. But
(14:36):
I think this isaid when he got changed to the miner.
Then he pleaded no contest, which I don't really understand
what that means. It's you're not saying you're guilty or innocent.
But regardless, he got a slap on the rest. What
is a community service like some bullshit? Yeah, oh, a
year of rehab and community service, so he doesn't even
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have probation.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, And I see. This is when I was thinking, like,
if this happened to one of my daughters, this is when,
like my husband would go take care of business maybe right,
like I not even him, like I would go to
Like I just couldn't. I couldn't even handle that. That's
(15:20):
how the justice system works. When there's a photograph of
this child like in a wheelchair. And also, let's let's
take into account how he actually injured them. I don't
know if you guys got a chance. Within the past
couple of weeks, we interviewed Jim Schmidt, who was Gabby
Petito's dad, and in that he talks all of he's
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actually doing education sessions around the country, educating first responders
on how to recognize if a woman was choked, because
he has some crazy statistics that I want you guys
to listen about in that episode, but most importantly that
the greatest number of people who commit homicide also have
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a history of choking like this. It's like a correlation
between people who choke when they're fighting and they're angry
versus not. And there's just a high number of these
people who end up killing someone because of it. And
it's like a red flag when you think about let's
talk about like we hear about serial killers in the past,
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or just people who are sociopaths general killed animals when
they were younger, tortured animals, and we know that when
a little kid's doing something like that that might be
a sign that there's bad things to come. It's the
same exact thing with a person choking someone in this
situation when they're trying to when they're fighting with especially
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in a domestic like a relationship situation. It's a huge
red flag in a kid that's done it twice now
at seventeen years old, and he can literally just go
and walk around and this won't be the last time
we hear from it. And unfortunately, that next victim if
they do survive and don't have or if they survive
and have extensive brain injury. I mean, what do you
(17:15):
even tell the next person that's going to be the
victim of this guy?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
The thing I see with this is there will be
additional victims and most likely a death resulting from this person. Right,
I mean, this person's seventeen years old raping these girls
that he's dating only for a couple months. He choked
one of them so badly she had have surgery to
repair her neck, and the doctor said if the choking
had gone on for thirty more seconds, she would have died.
(17:41):
And they found this is not hearsay also or just
what the girls are saying. I mean, she obviously has
the physical damage, and then they found videos on his
phone of him choking them.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
How I just don't I keep trying to think from
this parent's perspective, like they're pissed obviously, how do you
how do you not go and find this dude? Like
I just I can't imagine that you could just be like, Okay,
well that's what it is, and I would just be
so scared of my daughters still surviving in the world
(18:13):
where that guy's not behind bars for a significant amount
of time.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, obviously because you want to hope that he doesn't
go back and try to get some type of revenge
against them reporting him.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
One thing, I'm really sure there's a restraining order and that,
you know, I don't magic piece of paper.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't think there is. And something that really stood
out to me in this article it says son of
a prominent.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Local sports coach.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So how are we not supposed to think there was
some influence over this? This is ridiculous. This person is
seventeen years old, a year away from being a legal adult,
and is doing these extremely violent things to these young girls.
You don't think that's going to translate into his adulthood.
Oh we got a little slap on the wrist. You
don't think he's gonna rape anybody ever?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Again, who is a local sports coach?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I I don't know how they would possibly have It could.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Be a really big coach at a university or something like,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Know, I guess what I mean regardless, Like it's just
I just can't even you know, I was listening today
and this isn't something that we're really going to talk
about on this program. Because it doesn't really have anything
to do with disease or death. But the MLB players
that just that just got in trouble for betting the
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two pictures from the Cleveland Guardians right, like their punishments are.
They're looking at up to sixty five years in jail.
One of them just got arrested and got five hundred
thousand dollars bond. These aren't things that are so much
higher that those particular finds in jail time are so
much higher than so many cases that we talked about
(19:46):
on here of like actual people who should be behind bars.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Think about the Chrislies they went to jail. I think
they both got sent Incedo jail for over a decade
for bank fraud. And then this seventeen year old almost
adult man is raping two young girls and choking them
to the point where one of them almost died. To
quote Nancy, this is a total miscarriage of justice. I
feel terrible for these girls. They're going to live and
(20:11):
fear the rest of their life. It's not if, but
when this guy attacks another woman or when he kills
a woman, and then we're gonna go rape back to
this article and say, oh on November twelfth, twenty twenty five,
we reported that this person just walked free from these
heinous crimes.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's disgusting, it is, and it's so it's so scary too,
because we were talking about just we were talking about
in the last episode about the transperson that was in
the gym that had that crazy history of beating the
shit out of his wife so bad that he broke
her jawl and all and right, when when we when
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we're in public situations like you're in the gym, or
this guy, he could just live where he's living now,
or just move to another town, maybe somebody won't recognize him. Whatever,
He's gonna get older, change the way he looks a
little bit and stuff. How do you know that when
you're either going to a bar as as a young
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twenty something person or your kids dating some guy, that
they don't have this kind of crazy history behind them.
Like it's just it's just really really scary that people
that are doing such violence to other people are are
getting away with barely anything.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right, Well, of course, it's very it's very disturbing to
think we are just walking around with people like this
that are caught and not punished.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, that. I mean, that's the thing. They're caught and
they and I just I just don't if you're you're
but you're gonna put a guy that was sports betting
in jail for sixty five years. I mean, it's just
because that has to do with money. So if it's
funny jail for listen, Like, I don't think it's right,
and I don't know agree with it, but I certainly
think choking someone out is definitely higher on the list.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yes, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I just I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't understand why sexual assault and attempted murder aren't
treated the same as murder. You tried to kill somebody,
you just weren't good at it, Yeah, exactly, So why
are you thinking you get a second chance to be
better at it?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's why it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
That's what the second chance is, to make them get
better at it.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Seriously, this episode is brought to you by the Grosser
Room guys.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So, as we said, this week's high profile that dissection
is on Parker Schultz, and that is the two year
old that died in a hot car at the hands
of her loser dad. So make sure I don't hold
back what I think about this guy. We had a
really interesting case in the grosser room this week of
a guy who almost amputated it is penis, and it
(23:01):
is the most bizarre thing that you've ever heard. It's
so weird, and it's even more weird that he said
that he was still having sex with his penis looking
like that. I just can't, I really just can't.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
What else.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Oh, So, our next story that we're going to be
talking about is inbreeding. So we did a whole high
profile dissection on inbreeding a couple of years ago. Now
didn't we do it for like Valentine. It's like a
Valentine's Day special a couple of years ago, and we
do talk about this case of this family that we're
going to talk about in the next story, but we
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also talk about lots of different cases of inbreeding and
why it is terrible, and there's a lot of things
to really learn in there about how your cousins are
related to you. I remember when we were writing that up,
thinking that, you know, I have my first cousins, so
then I just thought that my their kids were my
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second cousins. But it's not really, It's like something twice removed,
like it's one of those weird things. So just looking
at the chart to see like who you shouldn't breed with,
it's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You shouldn't breed with anybody that populates on your family troops.
This is ridiculous, all right, guys, If you want to
read that, head over to the grossroom dot com now
to sign up. Okay, America's quote most inbred family, the Whittakers,
are facing difficulties after viral videos of their family resulted
and multiple family members being removed by state officials.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
This is actually kind of sad. It's really sad because
they get I guess who did the initial interview that
went viral on YouTube. It was just some like a
local interview thing or what was it. I don't know
that guy's backstory, but he became aware of the family
and did a small YouTube documentary about them, and I
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think that's the first time the public really learned about them.
And I get that because I like to I like
to showcase different things. So if someone, if I came
across someone that would be willing to share their story,
I would want to share it too for interest. But
I mean, this started this downfall of events for people,
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especially when you're super famous, but you're not becoming rich
and famous and you don't have all the protections that
celebrities have, like security and just being able to be
isolated from the public and not having to go to
the store to get your food and go to the
gas station yourself and all. Because I imagine that they
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get quite harassed in public because everyone knows who they
are now and it's led to this well.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And it's their abnormalities are quite obvious physically, so I
feel like, you know, you might just be taken off
guard by what they look like and then piece it together, right,
So there's definitely no privacy there. I understand why the
state officials went to the home. I mean, when you
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look at the videos of the home, there's bugs crawling everywhere,
there is rotten food laying out, like the house is
a mess. Right, it's probably not in great living conditions,
but these people are such a close knit family and
it's all they know and it makes me really I mean,
the interview is just saying with the others that weren't
taken by the state, just saying I miss them. They
haven't talked to them since September, and they don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Where they are.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It's just really sad to think about separating a family
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, I mean, and clearly they're not. They're not all
there as far as mentally to be, like, maybe they
do need to be monitored by someone else if they're
not intellectually able to take care of themselves and others
and their living in that situation. I mean, there's plenty
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of people that have a pad that live in a
hoarded situation with bugs and everything like that. But if
you're if you're talking about their their intellectual capabilities, they
just might not be capable of it. And it just
sucks because I feel like they were just kind of
there and like live in their life, find and content
(27:21):
and then this guy comes in and does a documentary
on them. They become super famous and they didn't get
anything out of it, and I mean they're they're probably
super poor too. Well Yeah, so I mean they're not.
It doesn't look like they're they're living.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
They didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I'm sure they didn't make a dollar off of their
Internet fame.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
No, And their story is most interesting because they're inbreeding
goes back to over a century and it's linked to
a single marriage between two sets of cousins descended from
identical twin brothers, and then that's when the gene pool
started collapsing, and then it just kept going for decades until.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, so that's that's actually even, that's that's even. That
is a really crazy thing actually, because when you don't
you're not supposed to breed with anyone's second cousin or closer,
because you don't want to be with anyone that has
more than really three percent of a shared DNA with you,
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because it just increases the risk because when you, you know,
when you're created, you have half of your DNA from
your mom and half of your DNA from your dad.
So in the case with them, if they're if they're
if the two parents that started were identical twins, they
both have the same DNA, and then they both had kids,
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so those kids each have fifty percent of the same DNA,
and then like, that's what's that's what's really scary.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
But then it seems like it it didn't stop there,
like it kept like every generation some form of incests continuing.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know what's happening there.
I mean, listen, I see why the video went viral
because it's super interesting because people say that and we
kind of hit on some of those taboos in the
grosser room because a lot of times like this particular
family isn't the exact representation of that, but we talk
(29:26):
about it from a historical standpoint because a lot of royals.
There's a lot of royals, did it isn't Queene.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Elizabeth and Prince Philip. I believe we're third cousins.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, So so it's like that that was a common thing,
especially back in the day. And I guess a lot
of people look at someone that might be really you know,
have some kind of weird facial feature or something, and say, oh,
they look like they're inbred, and it's like, that's not
really what the problem is. The problem is more for
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genetic things that are passed, because when you share the
same genes, that's really the biggest concern is that you're
you're spreading it among your family so much easier. Like
for example, I know a lot of times women now
if you're if you're having a baby, you get tested
and they want to see if you're a carrier of
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a cystic fibrosis gene. Well, if you have two people
that are carriers, then there's such a high probability that
you're going to have a baby that that has that,
And just the closer in DNA you are, the higher
chance that you're both going to have these recessive genes
that could come out in a child, and some of
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them could be really deadly diseases. So it is it
is definitely a concern, and it's just like it's just
kind of a sad situation for these people because there
are like, come on, they're they're not living. I mean,
they were living their best life, but like now I don't.
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It was just like tearing apart something that seemed like
they were content before.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
No, it is upsetting. And I know you wanted to
talk about something that Maureen talked about on The Nerve
recently too, which was this controversial interview with Jeremy Irons,
the actor. In twenty thirteen. He did this controversial interview
about same sex marriage and suggested it could open the
door for fathers and sons to mary, perhaps as a
way for a father to pass down property without estate
taxes upon death, and then he said this technically would
(31:28):
not be incest if it were between men, because incest
is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, so what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well, the reason that I told you to bring up
this point that Maureen was talking about this week was
because in the post that we wrote in the Gross Room,
there are certain laws that are only apply to people
that are of age to like if you're older and
you can't procreate anymore, you can't have babies anymore, then
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you're fine or so in theory, like certain states in
certain states. But it's just like what he's saying is
I mean, like it's so wrong and disgusting, But it's
if if the laws are created so people are not
(32:20):
it's not morally wrong. If you want the United States
are basically saying they don't give a shit, it's not
morally wrong. If you want to marry, even your brother
and sister, it's because they're scared that you're going to
have babies that have problems. So in theory, if you
can't have babies, then like, what's the harm. Well, that
is ridiculous, I mean, it's it's absolutely ridiculous. I'm just
(32:43):
putting it out there that the laws aren't created because
every single time didn't we just talk about this a
couple of weeks ago that in the UK, like that
the National Health Service in the UK had said something
that there wasn't a problem with it, and then they
like backtracked it or something.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, because like I guess what he's saying is like,
incest is an incest unless you're pro creating. But like
that is not true. And there are plenty of fathers
and grandfathers that molest boys as well, they have relationships.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You're not talking about little boys, You're talking about two
grown men.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
No, I don't sorry, I didn't mean to say that,
but you know what I'm trying to say, Like it
doesn't have anything to do with pro creating.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
It's the fact that like you.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Should not be engaging in sexual activity at all with
a family member, whether it results in procreation or not.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
But that's that's that's not scientific though, that's just moral.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Well morally, that's how I believe.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
No, Obviously, Like if you ask anybody, they're gonna say, oh, yeah,
like ew think about your cousins, Like ew, no, no thanks, right,
But but they're just saying like they don't care if
you do it. They just care because they don't only
having a baby with that person. So if you can't
have a baby, then like, what's the problem.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
This is insane.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I can't believe this conversation actually comes up so frequently
because if we talk about that mom that accidentally married
the son she gave up for adoption when she was
really young.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, did they don't?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, that's the thing. It happens. Like you were just saying,
I don't think you should marry anyone in your family tree,
but like we I feel like we actually know someone
that we heard this story when we were younger that
one person went to school with their brother that they
didn't know it was their brother and there they never dated,
(34:26):
but there was I mean almostly they almost did. Yeah,
Like when there's two people that are seventeen years old
in a school together and they don't know they're related. That,
I mean, it happens from time to time. It just
has to just well.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Especially if people are having affairs and stuff and they're
not open.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So what ha, Like that's the thing, Like what happens,
wasn't it with that mom? Like you're you're dating a
person for a certain amount of time and that you
don't even find out until years later. When these DNA
tests come out that you give someone for Christmas, Like
it's you know what I mean? Like you don't you
just don't always know.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
A new documentary is coming out about a man who
underwent a controversial surgery to change his eye color. What
do you think could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
This is this is something we've talked about in the past,
but this is a different kind of procedure. First, where
where can we watch this documentary?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So it's called Caterpillar and it's in theaters now. I'm
not sure if it's immediately going to streaming after.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
But so this is this is a really interesting thing
because this person that made this documentary followed this guy
who wanted to permanently change his eye color. So we
all know that they sell these contact lenses you could
get to change your eye color, but there's some different
kinds of surgeries that could be done to actually change
the color of your eye without having to put contacts in.
(35:55):
And she followed this guy there, and I think there
were a couple of people that So it's important to
know that this is an implant that they put inside
of your eye to change the color of your iris,
which is the colored part of your eye and it's
not FDA approved in America, but there are some countries
(36:16):
that do it. I think it was like, was it
Turkey or India? Whatever?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
This procedure was done in India.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
In India. Okay. So this documentary film crew goes and
follows people that are going to go get this controversial
procedure done, and one of the patients asked the doctor,
would you do it on yourself? And he said, well, no,
I like the color of my eyes. And then he
said something like I probably wouldn't do it anyway because
(36:46):
there's too many complications. And I guess this documentary filmmaker
was so shocked because after her hearing that, she she
still went through with the procedure, even after hearing the
doctor themselves say I wouldn't get it for myself. And
as a documentary filmmaker, I guess you are in situation sometimes,
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especially when you're filming super controversial things, that things happen
that you're like, oh my god, should I intervene and
stop this because this is so crazy right now? But
I guess you're trying to capture it as well, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, but the person still an adult and making a choice.
I mean, red flag number one for me is this
guy went to the company and wanted to get it
done but didn't have the money, so then promised to
do promotion in exchange for the surgery, and like, you
should not.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Be Also, red flag number two is if the FDA
didn't approve it. I mean, the FDA has approved some
crazy shit. If they didn't approve it, it must be really bad.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
If they approved oxycont and no questions asked, then you
should really be thinking about everything else. Yeah, I mean
that was absolutely insane to me, and like, personally, I
just would never do anything to touch my eyeballs.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Unless it was an emergency.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So the guy gets it done, and I agree, like
I won't even get the laser surgery from my eyes.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I just neither.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Ever, I don't even want to put contact lenses in
my eyes. It's just like it's just like my most
cherished body part, honestly, Like I can't imagine purposely screwing
with it. But anyway, Yeah, I mean, so this guy
gets it done and dull he starts having complications of
his eyes are tearing all the time and he's getting
(38:31):
headaches all the time, Like shock are right? Yeah, so
so I mean, this is this is why it's not
approved here yet, And I just wonder, like, how do
you how do you not regret? I mean you have
regret like that, but that's just like the most the
biggest regret ever. I don't eat because you can't ever
go back and you know it's closet because and I
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suppose this is why the FDA isn't approving it, because
it's it's a foreign body. We talk about foreign bodies
all the time, not the rectal ones that people put in,
but like getting a foreign body implanted in you, whether
it's a piercing in a weird place or just getting
an eud or something. Whenever you put a foreign substance
into your body that's going to live there for a while,
(39:19):
your body it starts to attack it because it recognizes
that it shouldn't be there. And some people's bodies freak
out worse than others, and foreign bodies could cause serious
problems for people. And you could put them in your
eye and all of a sudden, your own immune system
is going to start attacking that and trying to get
it out and push it out. And why would you
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want your immune system attacking on your eye. I mean,
it's just so crazy. Now, certain times people have to
get foreign bodies, especially for medical reasons, and then that's
when you take the risk and say, well, I need
this in ferior of being a cave of filter because
I don't want to get a clot that's going to
(40:02):
travel to my lung and kill me. So I'm going
to get this far and body put in, even though
they're complications, because the other complication is death. But for
something stupid like changing your eye color, especially when the
contacts I mean, and we could you could even go
as far as breast implants and some of the problems
people have had with those. It's just like it's it's
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not to me anyway, Like people could do whatever they
want to do, but especially with this guy with the
eye color, it's just like, is it really that hard
to just put contact lenses in every day? Like I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Well to your point, though, your vision is a lot
different than having nice boobs, right, Like, it's your vision.
You should not be messing with your vision because there's
obviously people that are living in a blind but if
you were born with vision, you should not do anything
unnecessary tampsit just like and there's a lot of studies
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and correlations with people having procedures done like that that
correlate with like your underlying mental health and everything like that,
because sometimes those kind of changes really have like an
adverse psychological effect on people. And it's like, this is
the problem because they're preying on people that don't have money,
(41:19):
and now the guy doesn't have money to even get
it fixed, and it's just terrible. Wait did you also
see this part too, Kah. There's an alleged packaging mishap
causing him to receive the incorrect eye color, leaving him
with jade green eyes instead of frost gray. So then,
after expressing his frustration, he went ahead with the procedure
(41:40):
anyway because the company repeatedly told him it was going
to make his life better.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, So, like, how do you undergo a procedure like
that when they say, oh, we got the wrong ones,
but you're here, you might as well get them. It's
so outrageous.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
This is reminding me of the guy with the tracheas.
I don't remember his name, that's off the top of
my head, you know what I'm talking about, the band surgeon.
It's just like total fraudulent to be. I want to
see this documentary, but I don't know if I could
watch it. If they're showing eye surgery stuff that really
skeeps me out.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
But I'm interested.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, I am too. I feel like that needs to
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Anywhy do it tomorrow?
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about Nicki Glazer's jokes on her recent
appearance on Saturday Night Live. A freak accident that killed
a father and son, yet another failure in the justice system,
this time in a high school rapist is walking free,
How fame ripped apart, America's most inbred family, and a
(00:42):
procedure that could change your eye color. What could possibly
be controversial about that? All that and more on today's episode,
What's up with this SNL? They're just like, I don't know,
it just seems like like clickbait kind of I guess
you would say.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, I guess let me get into it first and
I'll say my opinion about it. So Nicki Glazer hosted
SNL this weekend, and she delivered her monologue as every
single SNL host does, and unlike the celebrities, most of
the time, stand ups will do their own jokes, not
the ones that SNL writers have written. So she did
a bunch of controversial jokes at the beginning of it,
(01:21):
which is not atypical for her. She's always doing controversial stuff.
But I guess what people are really upset about is
part of it was she was talking about if she
were to take a shower with her four year old nephew,
what if she ended up becoming attracted to him? Because
how did pedophiles end up becoming pedophiles? Like, what's the
point they become pedophiles?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I guess everybody's really upset about that because joking
about pedophilia to most people is not okay.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess you could go
both ways with this. It's like number one, comedians always
say things that are I mean good one anyway, there's
no point if you're if you can't like let it
all out and I mean right that that's that. I
(02:09):
like that part of comedy when comedians aren't being censored
for what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But on the other hand, I just think about whenever
it almost reminds me of we were talking about this
in our YouTube life the what's her name Kristen Bell, Yeah,
and what's her husband's.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Name, dak Shepherd.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
They did.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
They did a post a couple of weeks ago making
light of the fact that she gets on her husband's
nerves so much that she wouldn't be surprised if he
killed her one day or something like that. It was
like some reference to killing your wife, right, And it
was Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and a lot of people
were just like, dude, you aren't. Aren't. Isn't she like
(02:57):
Elsa from from Frozen?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, So like people are following her because because she's
like a Disney character. And then there's people who are
in domestic abuse situations and it's not funny to them,
and and people don't want to they don't want to
hear that as a joke, that like their reality is
a joke. And I was thinking about the same thing.
You know, there's there's a parent right now, at least one,
(03:23):
but we know there's multiple parents right now that just
found out that their kids got molested by an adult.
And there might be a point that they might want
to sit down and just watch TV and watch something
like Saturday Night Live so they could laugh because they're
going through the most terrible thing a parent could go
through besides their kid getting killed, right, And and like
to hear that which not just not just a parent
(03:46):
going through it, but definitely there's lots of people in
that audience and lots of people watching that are victims
of that as well. So it's just kind of like
an upsetting thing like that that people don't want to
really think about during a portion when they're supposed to
be laughing. Right.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I really like her stand up a lot. I do
think she missed the mark with this one. I honestly
can't believe NBC allowed this, especially with how shitty this
show has been for at least the last twenty years.
They just don't do anything funny anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
They don't well that's the thing, Like they don't care,
and they're not they haven't been funny for years, right,
but they don't care because ultimately every single person's talking
about Saturday Night Live and clicking to watch the video
and that's kind of sad, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, but I always reference this. Colin jo just wrote
a book and he has an entire chapter called Notes
from Advertisers or something, and it's like something the advertisers said, like,
you absolutely can't make a joke about this during the show,
And when you like see the censorship from the advertisers,
you're like, Okay, this is like so stupid and ridiculous,
(04:57):
and it just it just makes me think of that
because they certainly when they have had stand ups on
in the last couple of years, they do push it
a little bit more, especially when they have Shane Gillett,
you know, more controversial people on. But I just really,
I really just can't even believe they let her say this. Honestly,
I feel like they knew it was gonna get backlash.
But to your point, it's getting them views. They haven't
(05:18):
been getting many views in years, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's the weirdest part of this story. I mean, the
jokes whatever. The weirdest part of this story is is
her talking about taking a shower with her nephew, Like
when is that ever? That's just kind of weird. Yeah,
that's what I was gonna say, take a shower in
front of your kids, Like my kids have seen me naked,
but I wouldn't get undressed in front of my sister's kid.
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, it's it is inappropriate, and it's like, I think
she just didn't deliver. I doubt she does that in
real life, and I think she just really misdelivered the
joke and it wasn't well thought out, because I think
she really does do a good job of having that
good mix of controversial but not pushing it too far.
I think this one definitely pushed it too far. She's
(06:03):
supposed to host the Golden Globes in January. I wonder
if that's gonna be affected because of this. Personally, it's
like I can see Kristen Bell made that joke. I
could see Nicki Glazer made this joke. I don't think
they should be canceled. I just think they took it
too far, right, But you know people are they're gonna
want death to the death to them all over a
bad joke, right, So I think it's bullshit of CBS.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I'm not a fan of I'm not a fan
of canceling people in general. I just it's just like
sometimes you might just have to reel people in a
little bit because because there's always gonna be the next
one upper and the next one upper, and like people
are probably upset too because of this, this whole movement
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of a certain amount of people that think it's okay
to be attracted to children, and like, we just it's
something that we need to make a hard line and
say that this is just never gonna be okay, you
know what I mean, Like it's just something that needs
to get realed in and stopped before it goes any further.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, no, totally.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean, I just think it was a poor choice
of something to say, and she wasn't thinking. Maybe she
was thinking nobody watches this show, nobody will hear it seriously.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's definitely not happening.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I know I'm making a joke because their ratings are
so notoriously terrible, But I think she'll be fine from this.
I don't think it was a smart choice, but I'm
number one, like pedophiles should be set on fire.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I hate pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Obviously, I'm not gonna stop listening to her stand up
because of this. I just think she didn't execute it
like she thought she was.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I wonder do they have to give them like their
whole list of jokes that they're going to say ahead
of time? Oh totally they can't, don't you know, Like
Snead O'Connor and a couple other people have gone rogue
on there. Do you think maybe she went rogue?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't think so, because I think that information would
have come out by now.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean maybe they just I don't know the
show maybe listen, Maybe they think it. Maybe they think
it's okay to do this with children, and that's why
they don't care. Like, who the hell knows what people
think anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I just think people, I think they're all comedians that
work there, so they all don't take offense to it
like a normal person does, because you could talk about
literally anything and somebody will take offense to it, right,
So I think when you're a comedian, you're really just
desensitized to a lot of things like that. And I
think a lot of them really just didn't think it
would get them out of backlash that it is. But
(08:38):
I think people are also making it a way bigger
deal than it is, and I just I don't know.
I think I don't think she should issue an apology
over it or anything, but like everybody just needs to
understand she didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Land that willing in yeah really really in not appropriate,
all right.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
A man in his teenage some were on vacation in
Laos and while ziplining, they were swarmed by wah stung
dozens of times, and both of them ended up dying yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mean, when you're on vacation and you die, unfortunately,
you're subject to whatever happening in the hospital systems and
the medical examiner system or corner whatever they have going
on there. So I don't think that they're getting a
whole ton of information, but just saying that they went
into anaphylaxis and they died. The doctor at the hospital
(09:26):
did say that each one of them had over one
hundred stings to their bodies, and the son had died
within a half hour of getting there and the father
died within a couple hours of getting there. So what
happens during anophylaxis is that there's lots of different things
that happened to the body, but one of which is
that you could get this enormous amount of swelling in
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your throat that could close off your air supply, along
with having changes in blood pressure, a drastic drops in
blood pressure, difficulty breathing, and things like that. So that
probably was a parent right away in this case. This
could happen by people that aren't stung by murder hornets,
(10:11):
just a regular well lon firm.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
They were murder hornets.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They didn't know which ones they were well, but they
live there, it doesn't. That doesn't even that doesn't, that
doesn't matter what it is like, it could happen with
any wasp if you're allergic to it, but once you
get stung by multiple wasp like that, it's it's it's
like anybody can die from that. So even though you know,
if they each got stung once and they both died,
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you might say, oh, they're related and they might genetically
have this allergy that they that runs in their family
or something like that. But I think that no one
would have a chance. And one interesting thing about wasps
is that if you come across a colony of them,
if one of them sends out a pheromone to all
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of their friends, they like all come and sting. Oh
my god, that's so scary. Yeah, it is so scary.
So it happened. A little kid at at the girls
school a couple of years ago got stung by five
wasps in the in the playground. And a little kid
she was she was maybe in third grade or second girl,
(11:17):
like she was a little girl, and they called it
right rightfully, so called nine one one right away because
that much it stings in a small body like that.
You know, they took her to the hospital and everything,
and she ended up being fine, thank God. But it's
it's really scary, and it's something what a freak thing
for that to happen on vacation.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, that's terrible, and you know, I hate that my
mind goes here, but I had written that article about
what happens when you die abroad, and I just think
of how expensive that must have been for their families
and how complicated it was to get their bodies back here.
And it's just an added layer of trauma onto this
already horrific event for this family.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know, it's interesting because there's there's a chance for
my kids, one of my daughters to go on this
trip to go to the Dominican Republic for to go
build houses or do some habitat for humanity type thing.
It's not that particular organization, but she so she wants
(12:17):
to go, and I keep saying, well, you can go
if you want to go, but like me and Daddy
are going too, We'll just say we'll stay in another hotel.
And she thinks that that's a little excessive, and I'm
just like, well, what if something happens and you're all
the way there and it's going to take me hours
just to get on an airplane and actually even get there,
And like, I'm going to show her this story later
(12:39):
and be like this is exactly why, Like these people
thought that they were ziplining and all of a sudden
they were in a hospital dead somewhere.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I mean, now that you say that, upon reflection, I
can't believe you let me go to France by myself
as a teenager. But you were secretly pregnant and hadn't
told me.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Now that's not the reason, but you went and you
were weren't you like eighteen?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I was seventeen.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You were seventeen years old, like she's twelve. There's just
a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
No, totally, you know what.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I believe they would take them on an international trip
that young.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh yeah, like and and it's cool. I think it's
a cool opportunity. But I'm just not that mom to
be like, Okay, go with the chaperone that I barely know. Like, no,
I'd rather be in the vicinity.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You don't have to look at me the entire trip.
I'll be like sitting on a beach somewhere drinking non
alcoholic coconut Margarita stright, but like just I just want
to be there in case something happens.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Call me crazy, you are crazy, all right. This next
story a listener sent in, which I'm thankful for because
I didn't see much coverage on it, and we have
talked about it's ridiculous. So last year, this star high
school baseball player was arrested and charged with felony counts
of rape after he attacked two sixteen year old girls,
leaving one of them close to death after being choked unconscious.
So now all the charge, after all these charges, he
(14:05):
was facing up to eighty years in prison, and he
got this ridiculous plea deal that allowed.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Him to just walk free. So he's not going to
jail at all.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I just don't understand this at all.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So originally he got arrested when he was seventeen, but
he was charged as an adult, and then he made
this plea deal where then he could be charged as
a miner instead, and then I guess wherever he lives.
So he was facing up to eighty years in prison,
and I guess because they switched it to a miner,
he's now getting charged as a miner would for crimes
like this and now he basically just has probation. But
(14:36):
I think this isaid when he got changed to the miner.
Then he pleaded no contest, which I don't really understand
what that means. It's you're not saying you're guilty or innocent.
But regardless, he got a slap on the rest. What
is a community service like some bullshit? Yeah, oh, a
year of rehab and community service, so he doesn't even
(14:59):
have probation.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, And I see. This is when I was thinking, like,
if this happened to one of my daughters, this is when,
like my husband would go take care of business maybe right,
like I not even him, like I would go to
Like I just couldn't. I couldn't even handle that. That's
(15:20):
how the justice system works. When there's a photograph of
this child like in a wheelchair. And also, let's let's
take into account how he actually injured them. I don't
know if you guys got a chance. Within the past
couple of weeks, we interviewed Jim Schmidt, who was Gabby
Petito's dad, and in that he talks all of he's
(15:43):
actually doing education sessions around the country, educating first responders
on how to recognize if a woman was choked, because
he has some crazy statistics that I want you guys
to listen about in that episode, but most importantly that
the greatest number of people who commit homicide also have
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a history of choking like this. It's like a correlation
between people who choke when they're fighting and they're angry
versus not. And there's just a high number of these
people who end up killing someone because of it. And
it's like a red flag when you think about let's
talk about like we hear about serial killers in the past,
(16:29):
or just people who are sociopaths general killed animals when
they were younger, tortured animals, and we know that when
a little kid's doing something like that that might be
a sign that there's bad things to come. It's the
same exact thing with a person choking someone in this
situation when they're trying to when they're fighting with especially
(16:52):
in a domestic like a relationship situation. It's a huge
red flag in a kid that's done it twice now
at seventeen years old, and he can literally just go
and walk around and this won't be the last time
we hear from it. And unfortunately, that next victim if
they do survive and don't have or if they survive
and have extensive brain injury. I mean, what do you
(17:15):
even tell the next person that's going to be the
victim of this guy?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
The thing I see with this is there will be
additional victims and most likely a death resulting from this person. Right,
I mean, this person's seventeen years old raping these girls
that he's dating only for a couple months. He choked
one of them so badly she had have surgery to
repair her neck, and the doctor said if the choking
had gone on for thirty more seconds, she would have died.
(17:41):
And they found this is not hearsay also or just
what the girls are saying. I mean, she obviously has
the physical damage, and then they found videos on his
phone of him choking them.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
How I just don't I keep trying to think from
this parent's perspective, like they're pissed obviously, how do you
how do you not go and find this dude? Like
I just I can't imagine that you could just be like, Okay,
well that's what it is, and I would just be
so scared of my daughters still surviving in the world
(18:13):
where that guy's not behind bars for a significant amount
of time.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, obviously because you want to hope that he doesn't
go back and try to get some type of revenge
against them reporting him.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
One thing, I'm really sure there's a restraining order and that,
you know, I don't magic piece of paper.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't think there is. And something that really stood
out to me in this article it says son of
a prominent.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Local sports coach.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So how are we not supposed to think there was
some influence over this? This is ridiculous. This person is
seventeen years old, a year away from being a legal adult,
and is doing these extremely violent things to these young girls.
You don't think that's going to translate into his adulthood.
Oh we got a little slap on the wrist. You
don't think he's gonna rape anybody ever?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Again, who is a local sports coach?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I I don't know how they would possibly have It could.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Be a really big coach at a university or something like,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Know, I guess what I mean regardless, Like it's just
I just can't even you know, I was listening today
and this isn't something that we're really going to talk
about on this program. Because it doesn't really have anything
to do with disease or death. But the MLB players
that just that just got in trouble for betting the
(19:23):
two pictures from the Cleveland Guardians right, like their punishments are.
They're looking at up to sixty five years in jail.
One of them just got arrested and got five hundred
thousand dollars bond. These aren't things that are so much
higher that those particular finds in jail time are so
much higher than so many cases that we talked about
(19:46):
on here of like actual people who should be behind bars.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Think about the Chrislies they went to jail. I think
they both got sent Incedo jail for over a decade
for bank fraud. And then this seventeen year old almost
adult man is raping two young girls and choking them
to the point where one of them almost died. To
quote Nancy, this is a total miscarriage of justice. I
feel terrible for these girls. They're going to live and
(20:11):
fear the rest of their life. It's not if, but
when this guy attacks another woman or when he kills
a woman, and then we're gonna go rape back to
this article and say, oh on November twelfth, twenty twenty five,
we reported that this person just walked free from these
heinous crimes.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's disgusting, it is, and it's so it's so scary too,
because we were talking about just we were talking about
in the last episode about the transperson that was in
the gym that had that crazy history of beating the
shit out of his wife so bad that he broke
her jawl and all and right, when when we when
(20:49):
we're in public situations like you're in the gym, or
this guy, he could just live where he's living now,
or just move to another town, maybe somebody won't recognize him. Whatever,
He's gonna get older, change the way he looks a
little bit and stuff. How do you know that when
you're either going to a bar as as a young
(21:12):
twenty something person or your kids dating some guy, that
they don't have this kind of crazy history behind them.
Like it's just it's just really really scary that people
that are doing such violence to other people are are
getting away with barely anything.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right, Well, of course, it's very it's very disturbing to
think we are just walking around with people like this
that are caught and not punished.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, that. I mean, that's the thing. They're caught and
they and I just I just don't if you're you're
but you're gonna put a guy that was sports betting
in jail for sixty five years. I mean, it's just
because that has to do with money. So if it's
funny jail for listen, Like, I don't think it's right,
and I don't know agree with it, but I certainly
think choking someone out is definitely higher on the list.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yes, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I just I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't understand why sexual assault and attempted murder aren't
treated the same as murder. You tried to kill somebody,
you just weren't good at it, Yeah, exactly, So why
are you thinking you get a second chance to be
better at it?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's why it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
That's what the second chance is, to make them get
better at it.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Seriously, this episode is brought to you by the Grosser
Room guys.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So, as we said, this week's high profile that dissection
is on Parker Schultz, and that is the two year
old that died in a hot car at the hands
of her loser dad. So make sure I don't hold
back what I think about this guy. We had a
really interesting case in the grosser room this week of
a guy who almost amputated it is penis, and it
(23:01):
is the most bizarre thing that you've ever heard. It's
so weird, and it's even more weird that he said
that he was still having sex with his penis looking
like that. I just can't, I really just can't.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
What else.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Oh, So, our next story that we're going to be
talking about is inbreeding. So we did a whole high
profile dissection on inbreeding a couple of years ago. Now
didn't we do it for like Valentine. It's like a
Valentine's Day special a couple of years ago, and we
do talk about this case of this family that we're
going to talk about in the next story, but we
(23:39):
also talk about lots of different cases of inbreeding and
why it is terrible, and there's a lot of things
to really learn in there about how your cousins are
related to you. I remember when we were writing that up,
thinking that, you know, I have my first cousins, so
then I just thought that my their kids were my
(24:00):
second cousins. But it's not really, It's like something twice removed,
like it's one of those weird things. So just looking
at the chart to see like who you shouldn't breed with,
it's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You shouldn't breed with anybody that populates on your family troops.
This is ridiculous, all right, guys, If you want to
read that, head over to the grossroom dot com now
to sign up. Okay, America's quote most inbred family, the Whittakers,
are facing difficulties after viral videos of their family resulted
and multiple family members being removed by state officials.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
This is actually kind of sad. It's really sad because
they get I guess who did the initial interview that
went viral on YouTube. It was just some like a
local interview thing or what was it. I don't know
that guy's backstory, but he became aware of the family
and did a small YouTube documentary about them, and I
(24:56):
think that's the first time the public really learned about them.
And I get that because I like to I like
to showcase different things. So if someone, if I came
across someone that would be willing to share their story,
I would want to share it too for interest. But
I mean, this started this downfall of events for people,
(25:19):
especially when you're super famous, but you're not becoming rich
and famous and you don't have all the protections that
celebrities have, like security and just being able to be
isolated from the public and not having to go to
the store to get your food and go to the
gas station yourself and all. Because I imagine that they
(25:40):
get quite harassed in public because everyone knows who they
are now and it's led to this well.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And it's their abnormalities are quite obvious physically, so I
feel like, you know, you might just be taken off
guard by what they look like and then piece it together, right,
So there's definitely no privacy there. I understand why the
state officials went to the home. I mean, when you
(26:09):
look at the videos of the home, there's bugs crawling everywhere,
there is rotten food laying out, like the house is
a mess. Right, it's probably not in great living conditions,
but these people are such a close knit family and
it's all they know and it makes me really I mean,
the interview is just saying with the others that weren't
taken by the state, just saying I miss them. They
haven't talked to them since September, and they don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Where they are.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It's just really sad to think about separating a family
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, I mean, and clearly they're not. They're not all
there as far as mentally to be, like, maybe they
do need to be monitored by someone else if they're
not intellectually able to take care of themselves and others
and their living in that situation. I mean, there's plenty
(26:58):
of people that have a pad that live in a
hoarded situation with bugs and everything like that. But if
you're if you're talking about their their intellectual capabilities, they
just might not be capable of it. And it just
sucks because I feel like they were just kind of
there and like live in their life, find and content
(27:21):
and then this guy comes in and does a documentary
on them. They become super famous and they didn't get
anything out of it, and I mean they're they're probably
super poor too. Well Yeah, so I mean they're not.
It doesn't look like they're they're living.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
They didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I'm sure they didn't make a dollar off of their
Internet fame.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
No, And their story is most interesting because they're inbreeding
goes back to over a century and it's linked to
a single marriage between two sets of cousins descended from
identical twin brothers, and then that's when the gene pool
started collapsing, and then it just kept going for decades until.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, so that's that's actually even, that's that's even. That
is a really crazy thing actually, because when you don't
you're not supposed to breed with anyone's second cousin or closer,
because you don't want to be with anyone that has
more than really three percent of a shared DNA with you,
(28:21):
because it just increases the risk because when you, you know,
when you're created, you have half of your DNA from
your mom and half of your DNA from your dad.
So in the case with them, if they're if they're
if the two parents that started were identical twins, they
both have the same DNA, and then they both had kids,
(28:43):
so those kids each have fifty percent of the same DNA,
and then like, that's what's that's what's really scary.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
But then it seems like it it didn't stop there,
like it kept like every generation some form of incests continuing.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know what's happening there.
I mean, listen, I see why the video went viral
because it's super interesting because people say that and we
kind of hit on some of those taboos in the
grosser room because a lot of times like this particular
family isn't the exact representation of that, but we talk
(29:26):
about it from a historical standpoint because a lot of royals.
There's a lot of royals, did it isn't Queene.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Elizabeth and Prince Philip. I believe we're third cousins.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, So so it's like that that was a common thing,
especially back in the day. And I guess a lot
of people look at someone that might be really you know,
have some kind of weird facial feature or something, and say, oh,
they look like they're inbred, and it's like, that's not
really what the problem is. The problem is more for
(29:58):
genetic things that are passed, because when you share the
same genes, that's really the biggest concern is that you're
you're spreading it among your family so much easier. Like
for example, I know a lot of times women now
if you're if you're having a baby, you get tested
and they want to see if you're a carrier of
(30:19):
a cystic fibrosis gene. Well, if you have two people
that are carriers, then there's such a high probability that
you're going to have a baby that that has that,
And just the closer in DNA you are, the higher
chance that you're both going to have these recessive genes
that could come out in a child, and some of
(30:39):
them could be really deadly diseases. So it is it
is definitely a concern, and it's just like it's just
kind of a sad situation for these people because there
are like, come on, they're they're not living. I mean,
they were living their best life, but like now I don't.
(31:00):
It was just like tearing apart something that seemed like
they were content before.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
No, it is upsetting. And I know you wanted to
talk about something that Maureen talked about on The Nerve
recently too, which was this controversial interview with Jeremy Irons,
the actor. In twenty thirteen. He did this controversial interview
about same sex marriage and suggested it could open the
door for fathers and sons to mary, perhaps as a
way for a father to pass down property without estate
taxes upon death, and then he said this technically would
(31:28):
not be incest if it were between men, because incest
is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, so what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well, the reason that I told you to bring up
this point that Maureen was talking about this week was
because in the post that we wrote in the Gross Room,
there are certain laws that are only apply to people
that are of age to like if you're older and
you can't procreate anymore, you can't have babies anymore, then
(32:00):
you're fine or so in theory, like certain states in
certain states. But it's just like what he's saying is
I mean, like it's so wrong and disgusting, But it's
if if the laws are created so people are not
(32:20):
it's not morally wrong. If you want the United States
are basically saying they don't give a shit, it's not
morally wrong. If you want to marry, even your brother
and sister, it's because they're scared that you're going to
have babies that have problems. So in theory, if you
can't have babies, then like, what's the harm. Well, that
is ridiculous, I mean, it's it's absolutely ridiculous. I'm just
(32:43):
putting it out there that the laws aren't created because
every single time didn't we just talk about this a
couple of weeks ago that in the UK, like that
the National Health Service in the UK had said something
that there wasn't a problem with it, and then they
like backtracked it or something.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, because like I guess what he's saying is like,
incest is an incest unless you're pro creating. But like
that is not true. And there are plenty of fathers
and grandfathers that molest boys as well, they have relationships.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You're not talking about little boys, You're talking about two
grown men.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
No, I don't sorry, I didn't mean to say that,
but you know what I'm trying to say, Like it
doesn't have anything to do with pro creating.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
It's the fact that like you.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Should not be engaging in sexual activity at all with
a family member, whether it results in procreation or not.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
But that's that's that's not scientific though, that's just moral.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Well morally, that's how I believe.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
No, Obviously, Like if you ask anybody, they're gonna say, oh, yeah,
like ew think about your cousins, Like ew, no, no thanks, right,
But but they're just saying like they don't care if
you do it. They just care because they don't only
having a baby with that person. So if you can't
have a baby, then like, what's the problem.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
This is insane.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I can't believe this conversation actually comes up so frequently
because if we talk about that mom that accidentally married
the son she gave up for adoption when she was
really young.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, did they don't?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, that's the thing. It happens. Like you were just saying,
I don't think you should marry anyone in your family tree,
but like we I feel like we actually know someone
that we heard this story when we were younger that
one person went to school with their brother that they
didn't know it was their brother and there they never dated,
(34:26):
but there was I mean almostly they almost did. Yeah,
Like when there's two people that are seventeen years old
in a school together and they don't know they're related. That,
I mean, it happens from time to time. It just
has to just well.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Especially if people are having affairs and stuff and they're
not open.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So what ha, Like that's the thing, Like what happens,
wasn't it with that mom? Like you're you're dating a
person for a certain amount of time and that you
don't even find out until years later. When these DNA
tests come out that you give someone for Christmas, Like
it's you know what I mean? Like you don't you
just don't always know.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
A new documentary is coming out about a man who
underwent a controversial surgery to change his eye color. What
do you think could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
This is this is something we've talked about in the past,
but this is a different kind of procedure. First, where
where can we watch this documentary?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So it's called Caterpillar and it's in theaters now. I'm
not sure if it's immediately going to streaming after.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
But so this is this is a really interesting thing
because this person that made this documentary followed this guy
who wanted to permanently change his eye color. So we
all know that they sell these contact lenses you could
get to change your eye color, but there's some different
kinds of surgeries that could be done to actually change
the color of your eye without having to put contacts in.
(35:55):
And she followed this guy there, and I think there
were a couple of people that So it's important to
know that this is an implant that they put inside
of your eye to change the color of your iris,
which is the colored part of your eye and it's
not FDA approved in America, but there are some countries
(36:16):
that do it. I think it was like, was it
Turkey or India? Whatever?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
This procedure was done in India.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
In India. Okay. So this documentary film crew goes and
follows people that are going to go get this controversial
procedure done, and one of the patients asked the doctor,
would you do it on yourself? And he said, well, no,
I like the color of my eyes. And then he
said something like I probably wouldn't do it anyway because
(36:46):
there's too many complications. And I guess this documentary filmmaker
was so shocked because after her hearing that, she she
still went through with the procedure, even after hearing the
doctor themselves say I wouldn't get it for myself. And
as a documentary filmmaker, I guess you are in situation sometimes,
(37:08):
especially when you're filming super controversial things, that things happen
that you're like, oh my god, should I intervene and
stop this because this is so crazy right now? But
I guess you're trying to capture it as well, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, but the person still an adult and making a choice.
I mean, red flag number one for me is this
guy went to the company and wanted to get it
done but didn't have the money, so then promised to
do promotion in exchange for the surgery, and like, you
should not.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Be Also, red flag number two is if the FDA
didn't approve it. I mean, the FDA has approved some
crazy shit. If they didn't approve it, it must be really bad.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
If they approved oxycont and no questions asked, then you
should really be thinking about everything else. Yeah, I mean
that was absolutely insane to me, and like, personally, I
just would never do anything to touch my eyeballs.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Unless it was an emergency.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So the guy gets it done, and I agree, like
I won't even get the laser surgery from my eyes.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I just neither.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Ever, I don't even want to put contact lenses in
my eyes. It's just like it's just like my most
cherished body part, honestly, Like I can't imagine purposely screwing
with it. But anyway, Yeah, I mean, so this guy
gets it done and dull he starts having complications of
his eyes are tearing all the time and he's getting
(38:31):
headaches all the time, Like shock are right? Yeah, so
so I mean, this is this is why it's not
approved here yet, And I just wonder, like, how do
you how do you not regret? I mean you have
regret like that, but that's just like the most the
biggest regret ever. I don't eat because you can't ever
go back and you know it's closet because and I
(38:57):
suppose this is why the FDA isn't approving it, because
it's it's a foreign body. We talk about foreign bodies
all the time, not the rectal ones that people put in,
but like getting a foreign body implanted in you, whether
it's a piercing in a weird place or just getting
an eud or something. Whenever you put a foreign substance
into your body that's going to live there for a while,
(39:19):
your body it starts to attack it because it recognizes
that it shouldn't be there. And some people's bodies freak
out worse than others, and foreign bodies could cause serious
problems for people. And you could put them in your
eye and all of a sudden, your own immune system
is going to start attacking that and trying to get
it out and push it out. And why would you
(39:41):
want your immune system attacking on your eye. I mean,
it's just so crazy. Now, certain times people have to
get foreign bodies, especially for medical reasons, and then that's
when you take the risk and say, well, I need
this in ferior of being a cave of filter because
I don't want to get a clot that's going to
(40:02):
travel to my lung and kill me. So I'm going
to get this far and body put in, even though
they're complications, because the other complication is death. But for
something stupid like changing your eye color, especially when the
contacts I mean, and we could you could even go
as far as breast implants and some of the problems
people have had with those. It's just like it's it's
(40:24):
not to me anyway, Like people could do whatever they
want to do, but especially with this guy with the
eye color, it's just like, is it really that hard
to just put contact lenses in every day? Like I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Well to your point, though, your vision is a lot
different than having nice boobs, right, Like, it's your vision.
You should not be messing with your vision because there's
obviously people that are living in a blind but if
you were born with vision, you should not do anything
unnecessary tampsit just like and there's a lot of studies
(40:58):
and correlations with people having procedures done like that that
correlate with like your underlying mental health and everything like that,
because sometimes those kind of changes really have like an
adverse psychological effect on people. And it's like, this is
the problem because they're preying on people that don't have money,
(41:19):
and now the guy doesn't have money to even get
it fixed, and it's just terrible. Wait did you also
see this part too, Kah. There's an alleged packaging mishap
causing him to receive the incorrect eye color, leaving him
with jade green eyes instead of frost gray. So then,
after expressing his frustration, he went ahead with the procedure
(41:40):
anyway because the company repeatedly told him it was going
to make his life better.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, So, like, how do you undergo a procedure like
that when they say, oh, we got the wrong ones,
but you're here, you might as well get them. It's
so outrageous.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
This is reminding me of the guy with the tracheas.
I don't remember his name, that's off the top of
my head, you know what I'm talking about, the band surgeon.
It's just like total fraudulent to be. I want to
see this documentary, but I don't know if I could
watch it. If they're showing eye surgery stuff that really
skeeps me out.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
But I'm interested.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, I am too. I feel like that needs to
be a Mother Knows Death field trip.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Anywhy do it tomorrow?
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Speaker 1 (42:56):
See you, guys, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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