On today’s MKD, we talk about Cardi B turning her umbilical cord into jewelry, Lizzo's new essay about the Ozempic Boom, a cat dropped through a car windshield, a very public shopping center suicide, and an AI app to chat with dead relatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome the Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about what celebrities do with their afterbirth.
Last week on Mother Knows Death, we talked about how
the body positivity movement is essentially gone now because of
drugs like ozembic, and now Lizzo is coming out and
saying that plus sized people are being erased. We'll also
get into an unexpected object that fell from the sky
(00:43):
and went through somebody's windshield, a person that took their
own life in a shopping center in front of people
in a very gruesome way. And a new AI app
which is designed so you could still have relationships with
dead family members. That one is like so disturbed. All
that more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
All right, let's start off with Cardi b. So, she
recently at her fourth child, and as a way to
honor the berths, she got her umbilical cord turned into
gold jewelry.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I guess they dehydrated it and dipped it in
a gold chrome solution. I don't know, It's kind of
boring to me. Like I saw it, I just was
like what only costs fifty bucks. I mean, what do
you want.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's not like it's this great piece of jewelry. It's
just a little thing. I don't even thin it's just
a jewelry is the right word.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's like a memento. It just doesn't look good. It
looks like an umbilical cord dipped in gold dust. Like
that's what like it? It just I don't know, like
it doesn't Well, what do you advise?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Everybody keep their placentas in jars like you in their
house so everybody gets stared.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Wish I wish Cardi b would have contacted me because
I could have had I could have advised her to
do something much cooler with it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, I just see this uptick in you know,
jewelry or art that could be made from things like this.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think you sent this to me, but I've seen
it before too, Like you could even take your extra
embryos from IVF and turn them into jewelry and stuff,
which as a person that just went through IVF, I
think that's a little excessive.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But no, you want me to tell you the one
that I just saw? What like I you won't even
believe this. Two people like sent their semen specimen or
like samples and pubic hair, and we're making like a
joint ring for what purpose. I don't know to just
(02:33):
like that, I don't know, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I feel like I don't know how I feel about this,
because like I wouldn't do this, but a lot of
people are very well. I guess I do know I
feel about it because I wouldn't do this with the
umbilical cord. Right when it comes to things like funeral jewelry.
When you think about people getting creamnes or a lock
of somebody's hair turned into jewelry, I think that's cool.
It's an old Victorian tradition.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, that's cool. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But in it you know, I told you when we
were at that Ante store in Philly, how it's so
sad when you see those days for sale, because you're like, oh,
your family member should.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Stop giving a shit about you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Throughout the generation.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
There's like three generations, like nobody cares. It's just sad.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But yeah, I don't know how like I feel about
the umbilical cordealry, I agree with you. I don't think
this looks that great, but it's also not that expensive,
so I'm sure somebody with her level of wealth could
have gotten something better made, perhaps, But I don't know
this girl, I mean have a flourishing business that does it.
So yeah, I mean it goes, it goes viral, and
(03:37):
there's lots of different things. We know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
We've talked about this before of people eating their plasina,
which I just think is just so nasty. I just
saw this video. I don't know if it was like
National Geographic or something, but it was showing these gorillas
giving birth and then this the mom was like eating
a placenta, which is bigger than a human one either.
Even it just looks like a giant raw piece of
(04:00):
steak and it's so bloody. And I think that any
person that's a PA that has dissected thousands of placentas
is just totally turned off by the idea of ever
eating it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Or the daughter of a PA who is forced to
intern at the hospital at fifteen years old and you.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Said, look at this one. It looks like a jellyfish,
and now I'm scarred for it does a little bit,
But so are you going to keep my placenta? Yeah?
I will if you take it home? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, how do you go about that? Do I tell
them there I want to keep it?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, you usually just have to get it signed out.
It just depends on the hospital and what their rules are.
But you could just say that you're taking it for
religious purposes and they have to give it to you.
The only thing is is that usually they might send
it to pathology if there's any kind of issue, but
if it's just like a normal vaginal childbirth or even
(04:52):
a C section, they'll give it to you if there's
nothing that they need to examine it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't want it, like, I don't even want to
touch it though, So you could come get the did
it comes?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I haven't. I have no interest at all why I
had I had mine because I couldn't touch mine, for like,
because I was in the hospital, especially after I had
Lilian for a while and it was just sit it
in the fridge for a while. It's just not I
don't know. I just don't think it's a gross But
I mean, if you're a organ, you made it, you
should keep it. You could keep it at your house
(05:25):
and I'll see it GiB over there. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But this company also does offer you could send the
placentage of them and they'll turn it into pills for you.
So I guess, yeah, and that and that was five
hundred dollars. It said, yeah, that was five hundred dollars.
This gold thing was fifty bucks. And then I guess
Cardi b also got a print made. They do prints
or something. I was trying to find a video of.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Dominus Industry, Like you know how you get a print,
take the thing home and paint it and stick it
on a piece of paper. There, I just saved you
hundreds of dollars. Like what what?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, I just I don't understand it, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Over the weekend, Lizo posted an essay on subsac expressing
concern that she thinks plus sized people are being erased
and she's worried about the Ozebic boom, even though she's
taking part in.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Said, I'm like actually getting annoyed by this shit at
this point, because I've been thinking a lot about this
over the past couple of days, because we talked about
it on last episode two, and just think about like
all of especially it was a terrible time in the
two thousand and twenty when the pandemic was happening and
so many people were at home, and all of these people,
(06:38):
especially people like Lizo and just like a lot of celebrities,
started this trend of like the healthy at any size
body positivity. Totally, I feel like they were pushing obesity.
Like actually, Cosmopolitan, never forget that picture they put on
the front cover that was like healthy at Size. It
(07:00):
just was. The whole entire thing was out of control, right,
So now I know people are ultimately responsible for whatever
choice they make, like people who are listening to celebrities,
but they do have influence over people because people think
they're cool and glamorous and they want to listen to them.
So you have this whole entire population of especially young women,
(07:22):
who were just like during the pandemic and everything, oh
ef it, I'm just gonna sit here and just eat
all day and be fat and walk around with my
gut hanging out and all this stuff. And now those
people are like getting left in the dust by all
of these celebrities who were like, oh, I could take
ozembic and lose a bunch of weight, and then you know,
(07:42):
once you start losing weight and stuff. They have money
to get trainers, and they have money to get surgery
to cut off the skin, and they have money for
the chefs and the better food and all this stuff. Well,
what about all the people you just convinced that it
was okay to be you know, huge at any size
and now they're pushing three hundred pounds because you told
them it was okay, and now you're like, no, it's
(08:03):
not okay anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, I think this is like so ridiculous because she's
saying she was partly motivated to lose weight because she
was quote sick and tired of her identity being overshadowed
by her weight, But like, don't you think that's why
everybody else in Hollywood is taking these drugs too. The
only reason that anybody cared about her weight is because
she was going on stage at three hundred pounds in
(08:27):
a leotard. Like she's the one that made it about
her weight. If she was just wearing a normal outfit, like,
nobody would have cared. It's because she was wearing like
lingerie leotards on stage and everybody was like, what is
happening right now? That's that's why people were making such
a big deal out of it, and like Hollywood wants
(08:48):
to act like they're so evolved and this, that and
the other. This is absolutely no different than you know,
all these videos they show from the year two thousand
when like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. Oh my god,
imagine people were saying these girls were fat back then,
and it's like yeah, and now look at them.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
They're all taking these drugs and super super skinny, and
they're still continuing to put out a terrible message for people.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Both sides of it are bad. I mean, these people
that need to lose five pounds or don't need to
lose they want to lose five pounds going on these
drugs and then becoming anorexic are also not helping either.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Like if you look at pictures of like right before
Wicked happened with those two people what's her name, Cynthia, whatnthet,
they're both the most annoying people that ever existed. When
you look at their bodies now they like that to
me is like I don't know that that's necessarily something
that you should be like, Oh, this is what girls
(09:47):
should look up to. They look like skeletons.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But both of them, I think there are people out
there that need this drug that have had issues losing
the weight to become healthy, to kickstart it, and that
categy is she is. But you're saying you're worried about
plus sized people being erased and the ozembic boom when
(10:09):
you're partiquing in it. So I just think it's hypocritical
to say, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Also it's just also another thing, another bad message. So
first they were telling you you could be healthy at
any size, which I've been saying from the beginning is
total bullshit. And now they're saying like, oh, well, you
could just go on this drug and lose all this weight,
and it's just like that drug is not benign even
a little bit, and a lot of people have short
term and long term effects from it. So it definitely
(10:38):
is good for people, like because I've been saying forever
that you're not healthy at any size if you take
it to lose weight. It's it's the benefits of the
drug outweigh the risk of being morbidly obese for years
of your life. So that's why I think it's okay.
But you're telling now a whole entire population and group
of people it's going viral across the world that you're
(11:02):
going on this drug to lose weight, and it works
for a lot of people, but how many people are
getting off of this drug and they're taking it, losing
the weight and getting off of it and that's the end.
Like it's there's studies done on that that that's not happening,
and telling people to go on a drug for the
rest of their life. It's it's kind of irresponsible, just
(11:22):
in a different opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, So many experts are interviewed and say that anybody
that goes on it has to be on some form
of it the rest of their life to keep up
with it. And I don't think people know that going
into it. I think there's a serious under education with it.
And it's concerning because I mean, I feel like in
the people I know that are on it, some people
are just like going to the doctor saying they want
(11:46):
it and they just get it. Like there's there's no
studies to make sure they're healthy enough to be on
it or might not have other complications from it. It's
just like it's reminding me of oxy conton all over again.
You could just go and ask for it and you
get it. It's just it just it just worries me
because I think there's times that you can't take it
in your life. Like let's say you took it for
(12:06):
the past couple of years and you were really thin,
and now you're pregnant, right like, now what you're you're
gonna like how much weight are you going to gain
during your pregnancy when you've been used to being on
a drug that tells you that you're not hungry all
day and then you're gonna be bread I don't know
if you could take it while your breastfeeding. You can't
take it while you're brestfeeding, Okay, So like that's good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's gonna be huge for all of these women that
are of childbearing age because right there, I mean just
an average person usually gains a ton of weight and
has to work hard to lose it. And when you're
used to having that drug that you can't take anymore.
You can't take it before surgery, you have to stop
taking it, like weeks ahead of time for surgery and
(12:48):
things like that. So it's just like, and like I said,
like it's fine for some people that really need it,
but like you can't just be telling everybody to go
on that right now, and that's sending just as bad
have a message of telling everybody that they're totally fine
being three hundred pounds. No.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And I mean I follow like influenc certain influencers and
other people online and I just see stuff pop up
on Instagram where people that just had babies are talking
about cutting breastfeeding short because they can't wait to go
back on it. And it's like, you could stop breastfeeding
whenever you choose whatever. We've had many conversations about this
young old whatever. But I think if you're only stopping
(13:26):
it to go back on this drug, like what if
you're gonna have more kids later, You're just gonna keep
going on and off of it for years and years
and years. I just don't think it's healthy to be
treating any medication like that either.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure, Like I mean, it's just it's
not evolving in any better way. It's the same thing
as like a lot of it. To me, it's almost
I understand that the drug works for a lot of people,
but it's an unrealistic beauty standard because it's something that
you have to do for the rest of your life.
And I don't want to be beholden to any drug
(14:01):
like that for the rest of my life, because there's
plenty of studies that show that it breaks, like I
don't know the exact mechanism of it, but the way
that your body normally metabolizes food it breaks that. So
once you go off of it, you're not even going
(14:24):
to go back to your baseline where you were before,
Like you don't you can't function without it. And it's
just that's that's kind of a lifelong commitment of going
on something like that. And then there's other side effects
that happen with people with the constipation and this and
then that, Like there's plenty of people that take it
(14:45):
that are totally fine and they'll be fine forever, but like,
it's just it's just a lot to say, Okay, you
have to take this for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It's a grand commitment that I just don't think a
lot of people are aware of when there's and I
mean it's adding into confusion too that there's a lot
of doctors online totally negating everything like you're saying or
what other experts are saying about it being dangerous and
saying it's perfectly safe. I mean, you could find doctors
that also say CTE doesn't exist, right, Like there's always
(15:17):
gonna be two groups of beefle and just.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
In general and life in general, as a person that's
almost fifty years old, Like there's no such thing as
a quick fix. There's just not. There's always going to be,
you know, like, look look at Kim Kardashian trying to
do a quick fix for going to law school, Like
she would have been better off just going to law school.
(15:39):
There's no quick way to get around things. Like, if
you want to do things legits, the best chance you
have is to do it the right way in order
to change your lifestyle and not have to depend on
something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
All right, last week, a woman was driving along US
seventy four in North Carolina when suddenly a bald eagle
carrying a cat flew over the car and dropped the
cat through her windshield.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That shit is crazy, you know. It's funny, Like I
let my cat outside sometimes on our roof because she
likes to like go out the window and just sit
on the roof. And Cara always would say to me,
what if a bird of prey comes by? And I
used to like I used to make fun of her
and laugh and be like a bird of prey, and
she's like seriously, like an eagle could come by and
grab her. I mean, I guess I might believe her.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I only ever think of these birds, like birds of prey,
guess as carrying fish and dropping fish. They'll scoop them
out of the water and then drop them in a
really random place. But I've never really thought about them.
Of course, they have the ability to pick up other things.
I just never thought about picking up a cat. And
then that's a random right, Like, but I'm thinking about
(16:54):
kitty being in the backyard because domestic cats are often
just roaming around. But your cat, So what if she
was just outside and the eagle scooped her up?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Maybe it was her, now definitely wasn't her. But this
is gonna upset everybody, so trigger warning. The cat died.
That's it. That's it's really it's just like such a
freak thing. I just can't imagine being that person that.
I mean think about You're just you're just there and
your windshield chatters like that. That's just scary as how.
(17:28):
And so they did in one of our local radio
stations did an hour yesterday about people hitting deer, which listen, like,
I've been driving around the past couple of days and
I've seen so many dead deer on the side of
the road, So people are hitting them all the time, Yeah,
at least around here. And all of these people were
calling with their experiences and they were terrifying, like saying
(17:51):
that the deer got in the car and was still
alive when they were trying still driving, Like, could you frickin'
imagine something like that happening, dude.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The deer around here are so huge too, like the
one I feel like it was last year. We were
going up to New York and what was it was
like four o'clock in the morning or something. I was
leaving to come to your house and there was a
deer in my neighbor's front yard, and I was like,
am I.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
On drugs right now? This thing is enormous. They're huger.
It's like the coyote I saw in Louie's yard last week,
the ghost of Remy It's it was it. I really
saw it. I know you guys don't believe me, but
I told you. The reason I noticed it is because
when I cause you know, I'm really allergic to dogs.
(18:33):
And I showed up at my parents' house and was like,
I see this dog, because what's Louise dog? Like a
husky kind of thing, Like it looks like a cut
of a coyote a little bit. And I pull up
to my parents house and I'm like, the only reason
I noticed the dog in the yard because I thought, oh, wow,
for once, my parents actually didn't want me to have
an asthma attack. When I show up and put the
(18:55):
dog out in the yard. That's the only thing that
And then when I got in the house, the dog
was in there, and I was like, Oh, I guess
that was the coyote. We're the ghosts or I was
hallucinating either or.
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All right, let's talk about this public suicide. How gruesome
was this?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This is terrible. In France, a woman went into a
home improvement store, bought an electric chainsaw, went outside, and
then cut her throat in front of everyone in the
parking lot. So again, believe it or not, this has
happened before. I did a post in the grocer Room
a couple of years ago called self inflicted chainsaw massacre.
And this is a sixty five year old guy who
(20:47):
also cut himself with a chainsaw to kill himself, like
cut it through his neck. And in this particular post,
in the grocerroom, you could see the what it looks like.
I mean, in general, you could just search chainsaw to
see what it would look like. Because it doesn't leave
because it's a chain that's moving, it doesn't It doesn't
(21:08):
leave an like something you would see if you cut
someone with a knife, like a sharp injury. It more
grabs and tears the skin and leaves like lacerations and
pulls it and leaves a chattered look like sometimes you
could see the like the teeth marks kind of from it.
And this guy severed his carotid artery, which is what
killed him. But I mean, it just seems so drastic
(21:33):
to do something like that in public, Like what would
cause somebody to do that in front of people? I
don't know, because I understand, like anybody that gets to
the point where they want to take their own life
is clearly going through some form of a struggle, right,
But I feel like it's an extra level to do
it so publicly.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
In front of people. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I can't understand wanting to do it in this type
of way. Yeah, it's in It's an interesting theory because
you have to think about every person that's going to
see that is going to be upset by that, you know, Like, yeah,
so I just don't I mean, like not just upset,
(22:18):
but like I mean, there's been situations where sometimes you
see somebody get hurt or somebody, you know, the ambulance
gets called in front of you, and it's just kind
of like disturbing to see something like that happen. And
just imagine seeing that, like it would just bother you
for such a long time. You know, you'll be traumatized
if you saw something like that, if you even know
(22:40):
a person that's died around you, it's disturbing, right, Like
you're driving on the highway and there's a bad accident
and you know somebody's died in that accident, it's terrible,
but to see somebody do this, it's horrific.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I just can't even imagine.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
All Right, Former Disney Channel star Column Worthy is facing backlash.
Af You're creating an app that will allow people to
talk to an avatar representing their dead relative.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So you guys have to see and we'll put the
link to this in the grocer room or the video.
The video that's been going viral. It's so disturbing of
it's a woman who's pregnant, who's like robbing her belly
and talking to her dead mother and then talking to
her dead mother to like help read her son a
(23:25):
nighttime story and all this, and it's like an actual
video of her mom. This is what like Kanye did
for Kim Kardashian, Remember, Like.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, I just I just see so many problems with this,
mostly being that if this is readily accessible to people,
they're not going to be able to grieve in a
way that they can move on with their life. And
not that you should forget somebody who's died, and not
that you don't have the right to grieve as long
as you want, but there needs to be a point where,
(23:59):
like you have to accept that it has occurred and
keep going with your life. And I feel like I
read this really controversial book about therapy this year. A
lot of people really don't like it, and it's because
the author was saying that a lot of therapists take
advantage of patients by having them retell these traumatic stories
and making them relive it over and over and over again,
(24:20):
to the point where the patient never gets resilience over
what happened to them and they're not able to move on,
and that's exactly what I see could happen in this situation.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I just I mean that part
of it bothers me too, But what really bothers me
is that, like when I die, I don't want you
making videos of me saying things that I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Well, that's another problem too, like the dead person consenting
to their likeness be used forever.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I mean, I know, it's just because it's just
like a real bizarre thing. Like when I'm dead, I'm dead.
I don't want it. I don't want that, and that
would only be for your personal use. But think about
when like movie stars die and stuff like that, Like
it's just like why are we doing this? Why? I
(25:18):
just don't. I just don't understand it. And it's just
it's not it's not going to end well. And you
may be tricking yourself into thinking that your mom is
there to help raise your kid or whatever, but like
they're not. And it's the same thing as people dating
these boyfriend chatbots. It's not real, Like stop trying to
(25:42):
tell people that something's there that's not there.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, I just I think it's setting people up for
a disaster because you're reliving it and then you're getting
off the app and then remembering that person is not alive.
So I think there's a way to handle these things
when relive memories you have with people that have died.
But I don't think this is right, and it's it
could be used for bad obviously, and then I just
(26:08):
don't think it's gonna help people with grieving. I think
it's just gonna make it worse.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Humans are so in tune to like slight differences with things,
and like when you watch the video, I don't know
that lady's mom, so I'm like, I don't know if
she's really like that or that's how she would talk.
But like, don't you think most people would just be like,
it's like, I mean, it looks like my mom, and
it sounds like her voice a little bit, but it's
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just off and like it's just not I mean, I
guess the technology could get better to a point where
you wouldn't be able to recognize it, but like your
own mother or your own spouse or your own kids
or whatever, like you would know your brain wouldn't be
tricked into thinking it was them, so it just would
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be like I feel like it would almost be more
upsetting to see it. I don't know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think it's just gonna make to grieving process worse
because you're just reliving the trauma of that person being
dead over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So what are so like the reception online like people
aren't having it? Is are people like excited about it?
Or it's generally like people are like, no, this is
too much.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
No. Generally people seem really pissed about it. I mean
people are called evil and demonic, which I think is like, okay,
like it sucks, but chill out. And then people are
pointing out that it's profiting off of grief. But in
twenty twenty two, Amazon released a similar feature where I
guess you couldn't you couldn't interact with the person, like
you couldn't see them, but you could train their voice
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so you could hear their voice back. And it also
was met with a lot of criticism. So I don't
see why this guy then thought this was a great
idea after Amazon got so much backlash for it a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I just I just like, when I'm dead, I want
to I just want to be dead. Like it's and
I think that's why people are calling it evil, especially
religious people, because you're you're you're kind of going against nature.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well, religious people say IVF is evil too, so let's
not take their word for everything.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
But sorry, my body sucks. But I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I think this is a bad idea, and I'd be interesting.
I mean, I want to know what you guys think, Like,
do you think it's a bad idea? Do you would
you like to do something like this? I am curious
to see what the listeners have to say because we're
very like we're a little more sterile when it comes
to death, so some people that are a little more emotional.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But this is what didn't Kanye do this with Kim
Kardashian's dad, Yeah, in a way that hologram of it's
the same kind of thing, like made a video of
the dad talking to her.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And I feel like at the time, I don't really
remember because it's years ago. When I watched it, I
feel like at the time she was saying it was
this great, awesome thing, but I feel like everybody was
like what they were saying wasn't what their face was saying,
you know, what I mean, Yeah, it was more disturbing
than that. Yeah, exactly, but you're dealing with the crazy
person with him, So are you gonna go on TV
and say it was a t I guess it's just
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different than like obviously, because let's say, for example, like
maybe there's there's not much pictures of my mom's like
grandparents from when they were kids, and like every generation
has more and more pictures from and videos and stuff
from when they're kids. There's not even really that much
(29:27):
videos that exist from when I was a kid, Like
Aunt Terry might have one or something, but like I
don't have one. So it's like looking back on videos
of like your grandmom and this and that, but it's
like that was that was like while the moment in
time that was captured. It's not like a future a
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future video.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know what I mean. It's just a little bit
different like now with the kids, for example, like I
don't I don't think I have any videos of my grandmom,
so I can't show my kids and like let them
watch it and hear how she talked and stuff like that.
So it's just weird to think that that's that that's
something that you could train an AI thing to do
(30:11):
in the future. I don't know. I just don't like it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But that's the difference. It's not a memory that you're reliving.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, I know that's and I don't know how it
feels because I never I never really experienced it. I
just I'm not sure. I'm not sure how I would
feel about that. All right, guys.
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Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome the Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about what celebrities do with their afterbirth.
Last week on Mother Knows Death, we talked about how
the body positivity movement is essentially gone now because of
drugs like ozembic, and now Lizzo is coming out and
saying that plus sized people are being erased. We'll also
get into an unexpected object that fell from the sky
(00:43):
and went through somebody's windshield, a person that took their
own life in a shopping center in front of people
in a very gruesome way. And a new AI app
which is designed so you could still have relationships with
dead family members. That one is like so disturbed. All
that more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
All right, let's start off with Cardi b. So, she
recently at her fourth child, and as a way to
honor the berths, she got her umbilical cord turned into
gold jewelry.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I guess they dehydrated it and dipped it in
a gold chrome solution. I don't know, It's kind of
boring to me. Like I saw it, I just was
like what only costs fifty bucks. I mean, what do
you want.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's not like it's this great piece of jewelry. It's
just a little thing. I don't even thin it's just
a jewelry is the right word.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's like a memento. It just doesn't look good. It
looks like an umbilical cord dipped in gold dust. Like
that's what like it? It just I don't know, like
it doesn't Well, what do you advise?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Everybody keep their placentas in jars like you in their
house so everybody gets stared.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Wish I wish Cardi b would have contacted me because
I could have had I could have advised her to
do something much cooler with it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, I just see this uptick in you know,
jewelry or art that could be made from things like this.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think you sent this to me, but I've seen
it before too, Like you could even take your extra
embryos from IVF and turn them into jewelry and stuff,
which as a person that just went through IVF, I
think that's a little excessive.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But no, you want me to tell you the one
that I just saw? What like I you won't even
believe this. Two people like sent their semen specimen or
like samples and pubic hair, and we're making like a
joint ring for what purpose. I don't know to just
(02:33):
like that, I don't know, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I feel like I don't know how I feel about this,
because like I wouldn't do this, but a lot of
people are very well. I guess I do know I
feel about it because I wouldn't do this with the
umbilical cord. Right when it comes to things like funeral jewelry.
When you think about people getting creamnes or a lock
of somebody's hair turned into jewelry, I think that's cool.
It's an old Victorian tradition.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, that's cool. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But in it you know, I told you when we
were at that Ante store in Philly, how it's so
sad when you see those days for sale, because you're like, oh,
your family member should.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Stop giving a shit about you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Throughout the generation.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
There's like three generations, like nobody cares. It's just sad.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But yeah, I don't know how like I feel about
the umbilical cordealry, I agree with you. I don't think
this looks that great, but it's also not that expensive,
so I'm sure somebody with her level of wealth could
have gotten something better made, perhaps, But I don't know
this girl, I mean have a flourishing business that does it.
So yeah, I mean it goes, it goes viral, and
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there's lots of different things. We know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
We've talked about this before of people eating their plasina,
which I just think is just so nasty. I just
saw this video. I don't know if it was like
National Geographic or something, but it was showing these gorillas
giving birth and then this the mom was like eating
a placenta, which is bigger than a human one either.
Even it just looks like a giant raw piece of
(04:00):
steak and it's so bloody. And I think that any
person that's a PA that has dissected thousands of placentas
is just totally turned off by the idea of ever
eating it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Or the daughter of a PA who is forced to
intern at the hospital at fifteen years old and you.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Said, look at this one. It looks like a jellyfish,
and now I'm scarred for it does a little bit,
But so are you going to keep my placenta? Yeah?
I will if you take it home? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, how do you go about that? Do I tell
them there I want to keep it?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, you usually just have to get it signed out.
It just depends on the hospital and what their rules are.
But you could just say that you're taking it for
religious purposes and they have to give it to you.
The only thing is is that usually they might send
it to pathology if there's any kind of issue, but
if it's just like a normal vaginal childbirth or even
(04:52):
a C section, they'll give it to you if there's
nothing that they need to examine it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't want it, like, I don't even want to
touch it though, So you could come get the did
it comes?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I haven't. I have no interest at all why I
had I had mine because I couldn't touch mine, for like,
because I was in the hospital, especially after I had
Lilian for a while and it was just sit it
in the fridge for a while. It's just not I
don't know. I just don't think it's a gross But
I mean, if you're a organ, you made it, you
should keep it. You could keep it at your house
(05:25):
and I'll see it GiB over there. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But this company also does offer you could send the
placentage of them and they'll turn it into pills for you.
So I guess, yeah, and that and that was five
hundred dollars. It said, yeah, that was five hundred dollars.
This gold thing was fifty bucks. And then I guess
Cardi b also got a print made. They do prints
or something. I was trying to find a video of.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Dominus Industry, Like you know how you get a print,
take the thing home and paint it and stick it
on a piece of paper. There, I just saved you
hundreds of dollars. Like what what?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, I just I don't understand it, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Over the weekend, Lizo posted an essay on subsac expressing
concern that she thinks plus sized people are being erased
and she's worried about the Ozebic boom, even though she's
taking part in.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Said, I'm like actually getting annoyed by this shit at
this point, because I've been thinking a lot about this
over the past couple of days, because we talked about
it on last episode two, and just think about like
all of especially it was a terrible time in the
two thousand and twenty when the pandemic was happening and
so many people were at home, and all of these people,
(06:38):
especially people like Lizo and just like a lot of celebrities,
started this trend of like the healthy at any size
body positivity. Totally, I feel like they were pushing obesity.
Like actually, Cosmopolitan, never forget that picture they put on
the front cover that was like healthy at Size. It
(07:00):
just was. The whole entire thing was out of control, right,
So now I know people are ultimately responsible for whatever
choice they make, like people who are listening to celebrities,
but they do have influence over people because people think
they're cool and glamorous and they want to listen to them.
So you have this whole entire population of especially young women,
(07:22):
who were just like during the pandemic and everything, oh
ef it, I'm just gonna sit here and just eat
all day and be fat and walk around with my
gut hanging out and all this stuff. And now those
people are like getting left in the dust by all
of these celebrities who were like, oh, I could take
ozembic and lose a bunch of weight, and then you know,
(07:42):
once you start losing weight and stuff. They have money
to get trainers, and they have money to get surgery
to cut off the skin, and they have money for
the chefs and the better food and all this stuff. Well,
what about all the people you just convinced that it
was okay to be you know, huge at any size
and now they're pushing three hundred pounds because you told
them it was okay, and now you're like, no, it's
(08:03):
not okay anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, I think this is like so ridiculous because she's
saying she was partly motivated to lose weight because she
was quote sick and tired of her identity being overshadowed
by her weight, But like, don't you think that's why
everybody else in Hollywood is taking these drugs too. The
only reason that anybody cared about her weight is because
she was going on stage at three hundred pounds in
(08:27):
a leotard. Like she's the one that made it about
her weight. If she was just wearing a normal outfit, like,
nobody would have cared. It's because she was wearing like
lingerie leotards on stage and everybody was like, what is
happening right now? That's that's why people were making such
a big deal out of it, and like Hollywood wants
(08:48):
to act like they're so evolved and this, that and
the other. This is absolutely no different than you know,
all these videos they show from the year two thousand
when like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. Oh my god,
imagine people were saying these girls were fat back then,
and it's like yeah, and now look at them.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
They're all taking these drugs and super super skinny, and
they're still continuing to put out a terrible message for people.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Both sides of it are bad. I mean, these people
that need to lose five pounds or don't need to
lose they want to lose five pounds going on these
drugs and then becoming anorexic are also not helping either.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Like if you look at pictures of like right before
Wicked happened with those two people what's her name, Cynthia, whatnthet,
they're both the most annoying people that ever existed. When
you look at their bodies now they like that to
me is like I don't know that that's necessarily something
that you should be like, Oh, this is what girls
(09:47):
should look up to. They look like skeletons.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But both of them, I think there are people out
there that need this drug that have had issues losing
the weight to become healthy, to kickstart it, and that
categy is she is. But you're saying you're worried about
plus sized people being erased and the ozembic boom when
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you're partiquing in it. So I just think it's hypocritical
to say, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Also it's just also another thing, another bad message. So
first they were telling you you could be healthy at
any size, which I've been saying from the beginning is
total bullshit. And now they're saying like, oh, well, you
could just go on this drug and lose all this weight,
and it's just like that drug is not benign even
a little bit, and a lot of people have short
term and long term effects from it. So it definitely
(10:38):
is good for people, like because I've been saying forever
that you're not healthy at any size if you take
it to lose weight. It's it's the benefits of the
drug outweigh the risk of being morbidly obese for years
of your life. So that's why I think it's okay.
But you're telling now a whole entire population and group
of people it's going viral across the world that you're
(11:02):
going on this drug to lose weight, and it works
for a lot of people, but how many people are
getting off of this drug and they're taking it, losing
the weight and getting off of it and that's the end.
Like it's there's studies done on that that that's not happening,
and telling people to go on a drug for the
rest of their life. It's it's kind of irresponsible, just
(11:22):
in a different opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, So many experts are interviewed and say that anybody
that goes on it has to be on some form
of it the rest of their life to keep up
with it. And I don't think people know that going
into it. I think there's a serious under education with it.
And it's concerning because I mean, I feel like in
the people I know that are on it, some people
are just like going to the doctor saying they want
(11:46):
it and they just get it. Like there's there's no
studies to make sure they're healthy enough to be on
it or might not have other complications from it. It's
just like it's reminding me of oxy conton all over again.
You could just go and ask for it and you
get it. It's just it just it just worries me
because I think there's times that you can't take it
in your life. Like let's say you took it for
(12:06):
the past couple of years and you were really thin,
and now you're pregnant, right like, now what you're you're
gonna like how much weight are you going to gain
during your pregnancy when you've been used to being on
a drug that tells you that you're not hungry all
day and then you're gonna be bread I don't know
if you could take it while your breastfeeding. You can't
take it while you're brestfeeding, Okay, So like that's good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's gonna be huge for all of these women that
are of childbearing age because right there, I mean just
an average person usually gains a ton of weight and
has to work hard to lose it. And when you're
used to having that drug that you can't take anymore.
You can't take it before surgery, you have to stop
taking it, like weeks ahead of time for surgery and
(12:48):
things like that. So it's just like, and like I said,
like it's fine for some people that really need it,
but like you can't just be telling everybody to go
on that right now, and that's sending just as bad
have a message of telling everybody that they're totally fine
being three hundred pounds. No.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And I mean I follow like influenc certain influencers and
other people online and I just see stuff pop up
on Instagram where people that just had babies are talking
about cutting breastfeeding short because they can't wait to go
back on it. And it's like, you could stop breastfeeding
whenever you choose whatever. We've had many conversations about this
young old whatever. But I think if you're only stopping
(13:26):
it to go back on this drug, like what if
you're gonna have more kids later, You're just gonna keep
going on and off of it for years and years
and years. I just don't think it's healthy to be
treating any medication like that either.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure, Like I mean, it's just it's
not evolving in any better way. It's the same thing
as like a lot of it. To me, it's almost
I understand that the drug works for a lot of people,
but it's an unrealistic beauty standard because it's something that
you have to do for the rest of your life.
And I don't want to be beholden to any drug
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like that for the rest of my life, because there's
plenty of studies that show that it breaks, like I
don't know the exact mechanism of it, but the way
that your body normally metabolizes food it breaks that. So
once you go off of it, you're not even going
(14:24):
to go back to your baseline where you were before,
Like you don't you can't function without it. And it's
just that's that's kind of a lifelong commitment of going
on something like that. And then there's other side effects
that happen with people with the constipation and this and
then that, Like there's plenty of people that take it
(14:45):
that are totally fine and they'll be fine forever, but like,
it's just it's just a lot to say, Okay, you
have to take this for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It's a grand commitment that I just don't think a
lot of people are aware of when there's and I
mean it's adding into confusion too that there's a lot
of doctors online totally negating everything like you're saying or
what other experts are saying about it being dangerous and
saying it's perfectly safe. I mean, you could find doctors
that also say CTE doesn't exist, right, Like there's always
(15:17):
gonna be two groups of beefle and just.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
In general and life in general, as a person that's
almost fifty years old, Like there's no such thing as
a quick fix. There's just not. There's always going to be,
you know, like, look look at Kim Kardashian trying to
do a quick fix for going to law school, Like
she would have been better off just going to law school.
(15:39):
There's no quick way to get around things. Like, if
you want to do things legits, the best chance you
have is to do it the right way in order
to change your lifestyle and not have to depend on
something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
All right, last week, a woman was driving along US
seventy four in North Carolina when suddenly a bald eagle
carrying a cat flew over the car and dropped the
cat through her windshield.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That shit is crazy, you know. It's funny, Like I
let my cat outside sometimes on our roof because she
likes to like go out the window and just sit
on the roof. And Cara always would say to me,
what if a bird of prey comes by? And I
used to like I used to make fun of her
and laugh and be like a bird of prey, and
she's like seriously, like an eagle could come by and
grab her. I mean, I guess I might believe her.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I only ever think of these birds, like birds of prey,
guess as carrying fish and dropping fish. They'll scoop them
out of the water and then drop them in a
really random place. But I've never really thought about them.
Of course, they have the ability to pick up other things.
I just never thought about picking up a cat. And
then that's a random right, Like, but I'm thinking about
(16:54):
kitty being in the backyard because domestic cats are often
just roaming around. But your cat, So what if she
was just outside and the eagle scooped her up?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Maybe it was her, now definitely wasn't her. But this
is gonna upset everybody, so trigger warning. The cat died.
That's it. That's it's really it's just like such a
freak thing. I just can't imagine being that person that.
I mean think about You're just you're just there and
your windshield chatters like that. That's just scary as how.
(17:28):
And so they did in one of our local radio
stations did an hour yesterday about people hitting deer, which listen, like,
I've been driving around the past couple of days and
I've seen so many dead deer on the side of
the road, So people are hitting them all the time, Yeah,
at least around here. And all of these people were
calling with their experiences and they were terrifying, like saying
(17:51):
that the deer got in the car and was still
alive when they were trying still driving, Like, could you frickin'
imagine something like that happening, dude.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The deer around here are so huge too, like the
one I feel like it was last year. We were
going up to New York and what was it was
like four o'clock in the morning or something. I was
leaving to come to your house and there was a
deer in my neighbor's front yard, and I was like,
am I.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
On drugs right now? This thing is enormous. They're huger.
It's like the coyote I saw in Louie's yard last week,
the ghost of Remy It's it was it. I really
saw it. I know you guys don't believe me, but
I told you. The reason I noticed it is because
when I cause you know, I'm really allergic to dogs.
(18:33):
And I showed up at my parents' house and was like,
I see this dog, because what's Louise dog? Like a
husky kind of thing, Like it looks like a cut
of a coyote a little bit. And I pull up
to my parents house and I'm like, the only reason
I noticed the dog in the yard because I thought, oh, wow,
for once, my parents actually didn't want me to have
an asthma attack. When I show up and put the
(18:55):
dog out in the yard. That's the only thing that
And then when I got in the house, the dog
was in there, and I was like, Oh, I guess
that was the coyote. We're the ghosts or I was
hallucinating either or.
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All right, let's talk about this public suicide. How gruesome
was this?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This is terrible. In France, a woman went into a
home improvement store, bought an electric chainsaw, went outside, and
then cut her throat in front of everyone in the
parking lot. So again, believe it or not, this has
happened before. I did a post in the grocer Room
a couple of years ago called self inflicted chainsaw massacre.
And this is a sixty five year old guy who
(20:47):
also cut himself with a chainsaw to kill himself, like
cut it through his neck. And in this particular post,
in the grocerroom, you could see the what it looks like.
I mean, in general, you could just search chainsaw to
see what it would look like. Because it doesn't leave
because it's a chain that's moving, it doesn't It doesn't
(21:08):
leave an like something you would see if you cut
someone with a knife, like a sharp injury. It more
grabs and tears the skin and leaves like lacerations and
pulls it and leaves a chattered look like sometimes you
could see the like the teeth marks kind of from it.
And this guy severed his carotid artery, which is what
killed him. But I mean, it just seems so drastic
(21:33):
to do something like that in public, Like what would
cause somebody to do that in front of people? I
don't know, because I understand, like anybody that gets to
the point where they want to take their own life
is clearly going through some form of a struggle, right,
But I feel like it's an extra level to do
it so publicly.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
In front of people. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I can't understand wanting to do it in this type
of way. Yeah, it's in It's an interesting theory because
you have to think about every person that's going to
see that is going to be upset by that, you know, Like, yeah,
so I just don't I mean, like not just upset,
(22:18):
but like I mean, there's been situations where sometimes you
see somebody get hurt or somebody, you know, the ambulance
gets called in front of you, and it's just kind
of like disturbing to see something like that happen. And
just imagine seeing that, like it would just bother you
for such a long time. You know, you'll be traumatized
if you saw something like that, if you even know
(22:40):
a person that's died around you, it's disturbing, right, Like
you're driving on the highway and there's a bad accident
and you know somebody's died in that accident, it's terrible,
but to see somebody do this, it's horrific.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I just can't even imagine.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
All Right, Former Disney Channel star Column Worthy is facing backlash.
Af You're creating an app that will allow people to
talk to an avatar representing their dead relative.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So you guys have to see and we'll put the
link to this in the grocer room or the video.
The video that's been going viral. It's so disturbing of
it's a woman who's pregnant, who's like robbing her belly
and talking to her dead mother and then talking to
her dead mother to like help read her son a
(23:25):
nighttime story and all this, and it's like an actual
video of her mom. This is what like Kanye did
for Kim Kardashian, Remember, Like.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, I just I just see so many problems with this,
mostly being that if this is readily accessible to people,
they're not going to be able to grieve in a
way that they can move on with their life. And
not that you should forget somebody who's died, and not
that you don't have the right to grieve as long
as you want, but there needs to be a point where,
(23:59):
like you have to accept that it has occurred and
keep going with your life. And I feel like I
read this really controversial book about therapy this year. A
lot of people really don't like it, and it's because
the author was saying that a lot of therapists take
advantage of patients by having them retell these traumatic stories
and making them relive it over and over and over again,
(24:20):
to the point where the patient never gets resilience over
what happened to them and they're not able to move on,
and that's exactly what I see could happen in this situation.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I just I mean that part
of it bothers me too, But what really bothers me
is that, like when I die, I don't want you
making videos of me saying things that I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Well, that's another problem too, like the dead person consenting
to their likeness be used forever.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I mean, I know, it's just because it's just
like a real bizarre thing. Like when I'm dead, I'm dead.
I don't want it. I don't want that, and that
would only be for your personal use. But think about
when like movie stars die and stuff like that, Like
it's just like why are we doing this? Why? I
(25:18):
just don't. I just don't understand it. And it's just
it's not it's not going to end well. And you
may be tricking yourself into thinking that your mom is
there to help raise your kid or whatever, but like
they're not. And it's the same thing as people dating
these boyfriend chatbots. It's not real, Like stop trying to
(25:42):
tell people that something's there that's not there.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, I just I think it's setting people up for
a disaster because you're reliving it and then you're getting
off the app and then remembering that person is not alive.
So I think there's a way to handle these things
when relive memories you have with people that have died.
But I don't think this is right, and it's it
could be used for bad obviously, and then I just
(26:08):
don't think it's gonna help people with grieving. I think
it's just gonna make it worse.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Humans are so in tune to like slight differences with things,
and like when you watch the video, I don't know
that lady's mom, so I'm like, I don't know if
she's really like that or that's how she would talk.
But like, don't you think most people would just be like,
it's like, I mean, it looks like my mom, and
it sounds like her voice a little bit, but it's
(26:33):
just off and like it's just not I mean, I
guess the technology could get better to a point where
you wouldn't be able to recognize it, but like your
own mother or your own spouse or your own kids
or whatever, like you would know your brain wouldn't be
tricked into thinking it was them, so it just would
(26:54):
be like I feel like it would almost be more
upsetting to see it. I don't know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think it's just gonna make to grieving process worse
because you're just reliving the trauma of that person being
dead over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So what are so like the reception online like people
aren't having it? Is are people like excited about it?
Or it's generally like people are like, no, this is
too much.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
No. Generally people seem really pissed about it. I mean
people are called evil and demonic, which I think is like, okay,
like it sucks, but chill out. And then people are
pointing out that it's profiting off of grief. But in
twenty twenty two, Amazon released a similar feature where I
guess you couldn't you couldn't interact with the person, like
you couldn't see them, but you could train their voice
(27:37):
so you could hear their voice back. And it also
was met with a lot of criticism. So I don't
see why this guy then thought this was a great
idea after Amazon got so much backlash for it a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I just I just like, when I'm dead, I want
to I just want to be dead. Like it's and
I think that's why people are calling it evil, especially
religious people, because you're you're you're kind of going against nature.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well, religious people say IVF is evil too, so let's
not take their word for everything.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
But sorry, my body sucks. But I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I think this is a bad idea, and I'd be interesting.
I mean, I want to know what you guys think, Like,
do you think it's a bad idea? Do you would
you like to do something like this? I am curious
to see what the listeners have to say because we're
very like we're a little more sterile when it comes
to death, so some people that are a little more emotional.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But this is what didn't Kanye do this with Kim
Kardashian's dad, Yeah, in a way that hologram of it's
the same kind of thing, like made a video of
the dad talking to her.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And I feel like at the time, I don't really
remember because it's years ago. When I watched it, I
feel like at the time she was saying it was
this great, awesome thing, but I feel like everybody was
like what they were saying wasn't what their face was saying,
you know, what I mean, Yeah, it was more disturbing
than that. Yeah, exactly, but you're dealing with the crazy
person with him, So are you gonna go on TV
and say it was a t I guess it's just
(29:07):
different than like obviously, because let's say, for example, like
maybe there's there's not much pictures of my mom's like
grandparents from when they were kids, and like every generation
has more and more pictures from and videos and stuff
from when they're kids. There's not even really that much
(29:27):
videos that exist from when I was a kid, Like
Aunt Terry might have one or something, but like I
don't have one. So it's like looking back on videos
of like your grandmom and this and that, but it's
like that was that was like while the moment in
time that was captured. It's not like a future a
(29:48):
future video.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know what I mean. It's just a little bit
different like now with the kids, for example, like I
don't I don't think I have any videos of my grandmom,
so I can't show my kids and like let them
watch it and hear how she talked and stuff like that.
So it's just weird to think that that's that that's
something that you could train an AI thing to do
(30:11):
in the future. I don't know. I just don't like it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But that's the difference. It's not a memory that you're reliving.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, I know that's and I don't know how it
feels because I never I never really experienced it. I
just I'm not sure. I'm not sure how I would
feel about that. All right, guys.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
See you, guys, Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.
As a reminder is as a pathologist's assistant. I have
a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor, and I have not diagnosed
or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of
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on my experience working in pathology so they can make
healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember
that science is changing every day, and the opinions expressed
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