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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. We have a
lot to go over this week. Of course, everything we
can't bring you on the Mother Knows Death Podcast we
cover in the gross rooms. To make sure you check
out the latest post articles and YouTube live episodes that
we have in there. On today's episode, we're going to
get into Kim Kardashian's low brain activity and the dangers
(00:42):
of competitive eating. Then we're going to get into a
lighter topic like necrophilia. We'll finish off the episode talking
about dancing in poop and who you should call or
who you should not call when you find a dead body.
All that and more, plus your questions comments emails. Let's
get arted with Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
All right, So on the show, On the episode they
came out last week, Kim and Scott distick. Which is
it not weird that she still hangs out with her
sister's ex like that that they're going and doing these
scans together anyway they go together.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I don't know, it's like, I mean, listen, like these
people don't do anything that normal people would do, but
it is you know, their kids seem to be all
close and hang out, and it's the kid's dad, so
I mean they see him all the time. I'm sure
if remembering correctly, though, I feel like Courtney expressed that
(01:35):
she wasn't comfortable with them being so close with him
because she's married to Travis Barker now they have a kid,
and her and Scott haven't been together for a long
time and they had issues for a long time. So
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I haven't watched the show in a really long time,
so I only turned the episode on to watch this
part because I don't feel like the articles always accurately
translate the scene, and I wanted to see it for myself.
So anyway, Kim, It'scott going this doctor, which I assume
they were going to a neurologist. I was surprised it
was the psychiatrist performing this test. But they get these
scans done on their brain, and as they're reviewing them,
(02:09):
the doctor tells her she is a beautiful brain, not
the type to get Alzheimer's or anything, which I just
think that's kind of ridiculous to say, because how would
you know. This article said she had a low risk
of Alzheimer's, But that's not what was said in the episode.
He said she didn't have the type of brain to
develop Alzheimer's, And then he said, oh wait, though, you
have some holes, which indicates you have low brain activity
(02:32):
and we need.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
To fix this. This actually makes perfect sense because the
frontal lobe of your brain is what controls your emotions
and your impulsivity and your decision making, right, Like, that's
the part of your brain that could get really affected
if you're a chronic alcoholic and you just start making
terrible decisions. So that's the only explanation for all of
(02:55):
this is that Because when you read the article or
the last one or anything that she's been doing for years,
you're just like, why on earth would a person go
on and say that they have low brain activity in
their frontal loop, Like why why would you tell people
that that's that's probably a negative. There's a reason for it,
I'm sure, because everything they do is calculated, and maybe
(03:18):
she's just doing that. So if she never passes this
bar exam that she's trying to take, nobody's really gonna
think that that she's just dumb because she's she has
like scans to prove that she has a pathology going
on in her brain.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, I mean he told her it was most likely
caused by her chronic stress levels because of studying for
the bar, because of being one of the most famous
people on the planet. I'm sure your life is not
that peaceful when you're monitored every single moment of your life.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Listen. I I don't want to ever say that she
doesn't have stress, but I like boo frickin' who well, like,
guess what, I'm listen, Like a lot of people, obviously,
most people in the world aren't dealing with the level
of pressure and stress that she's dealing with all the time.
But at the same time, she doesn't deal with what
(04:09):
all of us are dealing with all the time, which
is money, which is a big thing, security, safety, all
that kind of stuff, Like her kids go to school
with security guards and shit like we get to just
send our kids to school and don't have our guards
standing next to our children. She doesn't have to worry
about paying a mortgage on one house, let alone twenty houses.
(04:30):
Like that stuff puts a lot of stress on regular
people too. So if you looked at any woman's brain,
that's her age I'm sure it looks worse.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Honestly, I did this think it was interesting because I mean,
I'm sure this was edited out of order from what
it was filmed, but she was discussing what appeared to
be before the scan that she thought it was weird
because when she's in high stress situations, or she's in
what a normal person would be in fight or flight mode,
she remains completely co and basically emotionless about it, right,
(05:04):
which I just thought was interesting That ended up coming up.
And we had reported a couple of weeks ago that
she got the Pernubo scan and they said that she
had a minor brain aneurysm or something, so, which was
total crap.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
All that is all it is. That entire scene was
just a complete advertisement for that thing, and it if
it was bad, they would be they would be doing
surgery and treatment on it, if it was something that
was about to burst and kill her. Yeah, It's like
if you looked at anything and this is the thing.
(05:36):
Like you know how many autopsies I've done that you
just find random shit that people didn't even know they had.
One time, I did an autopsy on a woman that
was over fifty years old. That had a horseshoe kidney.
She didn't even know she had one kidney her whole life,
you know what I mean. Like another person died from
a heart issue and had a huge brain tumor they
didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You find stuff all the time, so if you do
a scan on anyone, you're gonna find something. Oh, you
have a cyst on your kidney. Oh that would have
been the bit like who cares like it's it's it
Actually would have been more of a story if she
had this aneurism and she had to go into emergency
surgery and get it handled because she was about to
have a stroke, right, Like I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I just was looking at the whole thing. Is this
is so la going to this?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I just like I just can't getting this scan, I understand,
like the whole like the naked thing. And they asked
it like the attention, you look good, you want attention whatever?
I just don't know why you would want attention for
for having low brain activity.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, I mean, there's only so many scenes they could
film of them eating salads in their kitchen, so they
need something to do.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you remember that person that was going viral a
couple of years ago. My favorite social media videos of
all time are ones of people who make fun of celebrities,
like that, who's that one guy that makes fun of
Mega Markle? He's freaking hilarious. Oh he is funny. He's
so funny. Right, So I think his names I don't know.
(07:10):
I follow, but I don't remember what his name is,
but that those videos are hilarious. Well, there was there
was a girl that was making fun of the Kardashians
and it was so funny. She in every single clip
she made, she had like a salad bowl in one
of those plastic containers and.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Was like shaking it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's all they did. And then she would put on
these really long fake nails that were like long post
it notes and then she'd go like that. She did
them so good though, it just was it was just
so great. I haven't seen them in a while, so
I don't know if she's still doing it. But she
did the whole like, uh, you know, the one sister
that's like dead behind the eyes kind of Yeah, she
(07:48):
did her like, oh my god, it just was so good.
So so anyway, yeah, let's let's talk about something. Okay,
A fitness instructor was trying to promote his weight loss
program by doing this challenge where he quickly gained fifty
pounds and then was trying to lose it. But he
ended up dying from your favorite term ever, cardiac orist.
(08:09):
Oh my god, how annoying is that. Oh he died
because his heart stopped. So does everybody else's when they die. Okay,
so he didn't die from cardiac arrest. So why did
he die? We don't really know because they didn't tell us.
But just think. Let's think about what happens if you
do that and gain fifty pounds intentionally. What was it
thirty pounds in a month or fifty pounds over the course.
(08:30):
I think goal was to gain fifty, but he ended
up gaining thirty in a month. Yeah. So here's a
list of some of the stuff that he was eating.
It was he would have a breakfast plate of pastries,
half of a cake, Hamburger's, two pizzas for dinner. So
(08:50):
obviously he's like when people. This made me think about
when people gain weight for roles for movies. Right. Yeah,
it's done in a very controlled environment where you have
a nutritionist, and that's and physicians that are watching over
you and checking your blood work, and they're not having
you gain weight by eating. It's more like a weight
(09:14):
gainer they have you have rather than just eating like
pure shit because it's it's the cholesterol could be so
high and make your blood cholesterol go higher. Yeah, So
he was eating total junk food and gaining.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Weight and up to ten thousand calories a day.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, which is a lot, especially if you're not used
to eating like that. But that increase in cholesterol like
that is worse for a more of a long term thing,
Like it could damage your blood vessels. It could cause
you to get plaques in your arteries, and over time
that could cause you to have problems with your heart
(09:54):
and your cardiovascular system in general. But you know, even
when I remember, like Christian Bale had to gain weight
for some role, I don't remember which one it was,
but he said that he was having cardiac effects because
of it, and he was in a controlled situation where
he was trying to do it as healthy as possible.
So there's just lots of different things that could happen, Like,
(10:19):
because I'm listen, there's people out there that eat ten
thousand calories a day. I mean, we've all seen my
six hundred pound life and stuff like that. In order
to maintain a weight of that high, you have to
be taking in calories that high, right, But when you're not,
when your body is not used to that and you
go from eating like two thousand calories a day to
ten thousand calories a day in the course of a month,
(10:41):
you're going to have issues with high blood pressure your body.
When your body gets bigger, you get more blood, so
your heart pumps more. And then when you get fat,
you get This is one of the things because everyone
says that I'm obsessed with fat, right, Well, it's because
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it causes the problem on your organs. It causes visceral fat.
So if he gained thirty pounds in a month, some
of that weight is fat around his heart, which is
also causing his heart to work harder. So he probably
had like he went into cardiac arrest because his heart
stopped because of either high blood pressure or just because
(11:24):
of the immense weight that was on his heart just
from the visceral fat, increased blood Strogers could have done
could have done it. It changes your hormones. Like all
of these different things are happening at once that your
body's not used to. And also let's not forget that
he was a fitness person, and we don't know his
(11:46):
condition before he even started, Like could it be that
he was taking like anabolic steroids at some point, like
we don't know, which also could have contributed to him
having a weaker heart. So all we know is said
his heart stopped. We don't really know why. But obviously
doing something like this is a terrible idea just to
(12:08):
just to prove that you're gonna put this this new
lifestyle like out there on the internet for people to
to want to buy into, like, hey, I just gained
fifty pounds and I just lost it with this, because
that's not even realistic either for a person that's overweight
that needs to lose fifty pounds, like he's obviously going
(12:30):
to lose it faster because he put it on like that,
you know what I mean. It's just like not an
equal comparison.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, And he seeming like a lot of times people
that have issues losing weightter people that have lifelong struggles
with eating. So it's exactly it clearly doesn't if he's
a fitness coach, right, and if he just I mean
if he ate like that for a month and then
went back to just eating the way he did, he
would just lose it naturally, Like he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
He has to try, And.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He's a guy like whenever, rick Yeah, exactly, Iver Reck
and I are like, oh, let's go and a diet together.
Ricky will lose twenty five pounds in like two months,
and I'll be like, I lost two pounds and we're
eating the same exact meals basically, with me eating a
lesser portion than him.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, it's ridiculous. It really is ridiculous because the same
exact thing happens the game two like, and it's out
the window. Now. Eggnog LTEs are backs, Like you know
what I used to I used to love the eggnog
latte until I realized that I think it's the Grande
size at Starbucks. The eggnog latte is like six hundred
(13:32):
and sixty calories. Actually, then I'm like, I'm never having
one of them again. Hold on, it just came out today.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I want to see what it says because they haven't
had it in a while, and now on the app
it has to say what the calories are on the Dan.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It's basically made with heavy cream, so it's you're it's
like you're you're you're drinking melted ice cream, essentially a
Grande's four hundred calories so much that's actually hot it.
So what's the is the VENTI won six five ten.
I wonder if they changed something in it. I felt
like it was so many calories that I was I
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was so shocked before. Yeah, that's good. Four hundred is
less than your thoughts. It's still way too much. That's
like what you should be eating for dinner or something.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But Okay, my birthday is this week and it's gonna
be my treat.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I'm I'm getting one, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And another horrific eating challengees thirty two year old man
died from asphyxiation after eating dozens of live cockroaches at
an event at a reptile store. So this happened a
while ago, right, this happened in twenty twelve. We don't
understand why these articles just suddenly start parking.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean, listen, I don't I don't mind because I
never heard of this, and I'm just like, oh, okay,
we need Like I can't even believe that that this
is actually real.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I can't either, And so as I'm getting further in
the article, it's like thirty people participated in this bug
eating contest with hopes of winning a python. And then
there was multiple rounds, so the other rounds that were
eating different kinds of bugs that weren't disclosed, and then
the final round was they had to eat live cockroaches
which were three to four inches in length, and that's
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when this guy had a problem. But no other participants.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So the first thing I thought of before so his
his his cause of death was that he had aspiration
pneumonia and he had inhaled some of his his vomit
actually right, so and they could see evidence of that.
You could actually see vomit in the airway. But also
(15:41):
under the microscope. Typically if it's a person that's eating
normal food, you would see muscle cells like from animally
eating you know, chicken or pork or something like that.
Or you would see plant cells if you were eating
celery or broccoli or something like that in the lung tissue,
which you never should see in this case. I mean,
(16:05):
most people don't eat bugs. But the first thing I
was thinking about was just a cockroach in general, or
really just trying to eat something that's alive in general
and trying to get as much of it as you
possibly can down your throat to compete. Is it possible
that he put it in his mouth and like he
put three or four in his mouth at once, and
(16:26):
one of them he didn't chew all the way or
it needed to chew even a little bit, and so
you have a moving piece of food in your mouth
as well, right, And what the pathologists that did the
autopsy said that they saw that there was evidence that
it got down past the epiglottis, which is the flap
that usually so there's a flap called the epiglottis in
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the back of the throat that covers the airway while
you eat, and obviously it fails in everyone once in
a while because that's when you're eating and you start
coughing and your eyes start to because it went down
the wrong pipe. That's what people would say, right, so
that ultimately was his cause of death. But think about
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just a cockroach in general. They have that chit lin
whatever it's called. That's what their exoskeleton is made out of.
And our enzymes in our saliva don't break that down
even a little bit. So if you put a piece
of bread in your mouth, for example, it'll it'll like
melt in your mouth. You know what I mean. If
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you put a cockroach in your mouth, it doesn't matter
if it sits there all day, it's still gonna say
four inches in your mouth and not break down at all.
So you're chewing essentially plastic, right, and then it goes
into your gi system. And I'm gonna go out on
a limb and say, if he even survived this, this
initial choking episode, he would have had a huge issue
(17:53):
just passing all of those exoskeletons because our digestive juices
don't break them down.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Well, what I was gonna ask too, is don't they
say that cockroaches could live like a week without their
heads or something? So like, is it even really dead?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Is? I don't break it down, but I don't know it.
I mean your stomach as it breaks some of the
pieces of it, but not the actual skeleton of it.
And if you have one, fine, go to the bathroom.
But just think about it as like being ale a
piece of plastic in your stomach and all of a
sudden you ate fifty of these things, like it could
form a beez or or cause like an obstruction of
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a foreign substance, the same as it would if you
had too many seeds or anything that's not considered edible.
It happens with hair or something like that, Like it's
going to cause an obstruction in the GI system.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I just can't understand. I mean, aren't cockroaches considered like dirty?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I don't understand. And his girlfriend was saying that this
wasn't the first time he ate bugs. Well whatever. I mean,
people could eat bugs if they want to eat bugs.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I mean, some cultures eat them, but I just don't
understand the desire to eat cockroaches in particular.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think it's the weirdest part of it is it
was to win a free python and he was going
to give it to like his a friend or.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Something female friend, which I was like, that's weird, but
like you're so maybe that's why he wanted to be
Like maybe he didn't have enough to afford to buy
or one and he thought like he would have been
cool if he won or something.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I can't believe thirty people participated in this, but it
was in Florida, which we know a lot of weird
things go down there. It's why there's like the whole
stigma about Florida, Man, and there's now a whole show
about the weird stuff going on down there.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, no, it's it is really true. This episode is
brought to you by the Grossroom. So, speaking of things
happen in Florida, we had a post in the Gross
Room this week about another crazy true crime case that's
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coming out of Maricopa County in Arizona, which we've said
on this show and that this final one maybe finally
make a post about it and be like, yo, people,
what's up with what's happening in Arizona? Is that hot
temperature like frying people's brains or something. It just seems
like there's so many high profile cases that happen there,
(20:28):
but also other ones that are happening too. Of course,
the most famous one is the Jody Aras Areas in
Travis Alexander one, right, but like, well there's.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Jody Areas, Ruby, Frankie and then Hazzard.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Remember that that case of the husband that was watching
the the little toddler that drowned in the pool recently, Yeah,
that case was in Maricopa County. It's just like every
single time, it seems like we're reading something but it's
either Americopa County in Arizona or Florida, So like, what's
(21:04):
all I could say is that they both have hot temperatures,
but that's my personal opinion. But anyway, we had our
YouTube live yesterday too, so we do an additional episode
in the grocer Room once a week, and there we
talked about different stories that we don't talk about on here.
So we talked about Brian Coberger case. There's a little
bit of new information out there that one of the
(21:26):
families is suing Washington State University, and also that there
was an inappropriate social media post going around with the
actors who were playing their dead children on a Lifetime movie.
So we got into that a little bit, and of
course we had to bring up RFKJ and filching that
(21:47):
was It's always classy, and just the Kennedy curse in general,
because one of JFK's grandkids just said that she has
a terminal illness and she's pretty young. So we were
talking about all that, and you could watch that episod
so live, but you also can go back and watch
it if you're interested.
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Speaker 2 (22:09):
Oh god, this is the light topic of the day. Necrophilia.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Back in twenty twenty two, this couple was about to
finalize their divorce and that's when the husband decided he
was going to hide in his estrange wife's apartment, kill her,
and then bury her body in a shallow grave in
the desert. But the next morning he decided he was
gonna go back, dig her up, and he had sex
with her corpse and then buried her again.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, so this case is really disturbing, obviously, and he
admitted this all to the investigators, which I thought was unusual.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, I mean, when you do an autopsy, you can tell,
because really, yeah, because if they're they're going to do
an exam and see if she was actually assaulted, and
then they're gonna be able to see if she has
a vaginal or anal lacerations, tears, any thing like that,
and if there's any hemorrhage associated with it, so they
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could tell when a wound is made post mortem versus
before the person died. So I mean, and of course,
if they see any evidence of that she had sex,
they're going to do a kit and they'll be able
to see that it was him, and if they're able to,
they could look grossly and microscopically to prove if the
(23:24):
if the terrors happened before after she died, So I
mean he could have he didn't have to admit it,
but like eventually he would have got caught with it anyway.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I just thought this was weird and maybe I'm misunderstanding it,
but it seems like he was pretty open about what happened,
and they even had this quote from him saying if
I didn't commit to being a monster, then she would
have died for no reason. But then he ended up
being on trial and was just found guilty in his
facing sentencing next month. So I'm confused why it went
(23:54):
to trial if he even if he was open about it.
But maybe he told them and then decided plead not guilty.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I don't really know. So one of the most interesting
things I learned about necrophilia a couple years was it
last year or a couple of years ago in the
grocer room redid a high profile that the section on necrophilia,
and it's it's it's an interesting subject. I like to
I like to discuss things that are that are just
interesting to me. And one of the things that I
(24:24):
learned about it because when anybody reads this article, they're
just like, oh God, this guy's like some sick, weird,
pervert guy. And there's all different forms of necrophilia, some
of which is just I mean not just but people
having it usually happens with men, but it kind of
(24:46):
there's cases of it happening with women homosexual men as well,
So it usually happens with with heterosexual males, but I
mean Jeffrey Dahmer is a good example, you know, did
something like that too, So it's doesn't always fall into
this one category. But sometimes there's cases of it happening
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with people who were seemingly happily married and the wife
dies and it's just because of extreme grief that the
husband will have sex with her. So that could even
be the case here if he killed her and then
went back because he felt some kind of extreme grief
from it. But then there's a sliding scale of just
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how disturbing and weird it gets. And I'll never forget that.
I'm speaking of Brian Coberger. I was listening to some
a psychologist or psychiatrist on Nancy Grace's show was talking
about that crime and said that she wouldn't be surprised
if after he mutilated their bodies that he masturbated right afterwards,
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because that's like one of the classes of necrophilia of
just the only way that you could get sexual satisfaction
and climaxes from doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, and we had been critical of the prosecutor who
said there was no sexual nature to this crime, because
I mean, just because he maybe didn't sectually assault them
doesn't mean he didn't go home and.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Get ex to it later. Yeah. So there's just like
all different situations. So yeah, check. You could just search
in the gross room for necrophilia and read all about that,
and then I have some actual cases of autopsies where
that happened, so and there you'll see pictures of how
they could tell dead verses alive and things like that.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
All Right, So the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade was last
week and as some of the performers were coming up
in front of the store, I guess a police horse
had pooped in the middle of the street and there
were forced to dance in the poop. This is like
little girls, like pre teenage girls dancing in this horse poop.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I just I think it's so wrong. It's really it's
it's just like a really weird situation. Because think about this.
If you are a dancer and you're in a dance
school and you get asked to dance into Macy's Day
Thanksgiving parade, that's like a huge, huge, it's huge for
especially a little kid to have that honor kind of
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and you're in a group of kids and you're all
just like, there's no one stopping you, and you're I
guess they just thought, like like someone wrote that in
one of the comments, like the show must go on right, Yeah,
like they just didn't they they didn't know not to
do it right. And I would think like if I
(27:43):
was twelve years old doing that and I shouldn't have
been doing it, that my mom or my dance teacher
would have ran in and grabbed me or something like
nobody stopped it, and it would have been kind of
weird to just stop in the middle of the parade.
And you know, like we lived when I went to
Jefferson for setology, Maria and I lived in a society
(28:03):
hill in in Philly for that year while I went
to school. And we had the horse and carriage go
by our apartment every single day, multiple times a day
and shit on the street, and it just meld like
horse poop in the air all the time. Some like
some of those carriages now have these like bags that
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hang under their butt that catches the poop. But I
mean back in early two thousands when we were there,
they were just pooping on the street. It was like
we stepped in it all the time, just crossing the
street and stuff. It just it was there all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
This is my grape with it though, Like they're not
performing the entire length of the parade. There's like checkpoints
right that they stop at, So why can't they devote
They said they work with a sanitation crew and they
don't know what happened basically that allowed it to happen.
But like, wouldn't you think that they could take one
to two minutes to like at least push it to
the side so they don't have to dance in the
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turds itself. And I thought they were barefoot at first,
but they had those like skin colored tights with the
nude shoes on too, you know, So at first I
was like, oh my god, these poor little girls are
barefoot in this horsepoop. They did have shoes on, but
then people were also pointing out dance shoes are incredibly expensive.
I'm sure you know, because Lubret dances.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, I mean they are, they are, and it's I mean,
that's listen. It's gross. And but also there is a
risk with it as well, because I mean, at least
they're not barefoot, so if they did have obviously, if
they had any open cuts on their feet or something,
you're putting fecal matter into a cut, so you could
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get a serious infection. And I mean it still could
kind of get in because if it's getting through those
shoes and those little stockings, like, it could still get
into their like I'm sure when they took their little
stockings off, their feet had shit on them still, right,
So and then another factor that you have to take
into consideration is when the kid because now you're you're
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not going into a house like somebody has to. The
kid has to get somewhere to get into a shower
and everything. So now you have people and maybe the
child or a person helping that's now touching fecal matter.
I mean, that's what it's poop, Right, it's not as
high as a risk as you would say, like pig
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poop or something, just because they eat like or any
animal that's not an herbivore, you know what I mean,
like you would get you have like less of a risk,
but they still carry certain parasites, they still carry certain bacterias. Actually,
horseman or is considered one of the risk factors for
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tetanus because of the even though it's not in the poop,
it's could be in the spores near the stables where
they're at. So I don't know if they considered this
to be an exposure. I mean, the good thing is
is that they're all young and it would probably only
cause a problem in someone that was immunocompromise, like an
older person. But certainly children can have autoimmune conditions and
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be on certain medications as well that they're immuno compromise.
But it's it's not like you never really want your
child to touch an animal poop. I mean, it's just
you know what I mean, you're just like risking it.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's just gross and it seems unnecessary that they couldn't
have cleaned it up quickly before they showed up, because
I just think it was like.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
One kid did it, and they all looked at each
other and we're like, I guess we're doing this. And
then you have thirty kids stomping and shit, and they're like, okay,
like let's not make a big scene of this. But
I love that for their professionalists. I know, right, they're
like they're gonna. I just I love when shit like
this happens, and like someone just so happens to be
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recording it, and you're that person was probably like, am
I watching this right now? It looks so funny?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
All right? So a couple weeks ago, Elliott Siegel, who
hosts the DC radio show Elliot in the Morning's doing
his show. Everything seemed to be normal until they got
a call from a listener saying that he found a
dead body in the woods and didn't bother to call
the police.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Did you listen to the audio from this? Yes? It
was so disturbing. It is disturbing, and I'm still I
don't know that we've heard the end of this yet
because it's very, very weird. And of course, the first
person that we thought of was Elvis Duran and his
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amazing show and everyone on the show. We were thinking,
Oh my god, this could totally happen to them too,
and how would they handle this. I would just really,
I really want to talk to him about this, because
obviously millions of people are listening to your show, so
you just have that out there. But and Elvis has
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been on for so long, so I'm just wondering if
he's ever had another situation where he was like, I
better call the police because I'm not just the dead
body thing, but like anything that anybody could have said,
because people do want to get attention from doing things
like that sometimes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well, we did text this to Andrew and Celia to
see if they saw it. And Andrew told us the
fun fact that Elliott used to be Elvis's co host.
Oh really, go So that is such a random part
of the story, but this is basically what happened. They
got a call from this guy who said his name
was Joseph and didn't want to reveal his real name,
and his voice was just very creepy, and he was
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very calm the entire time, which is added to the
eeriness of it. So I guess, you know, he calls
in and they he says he sends the other radio
host pictures of something he found, and he's reminding them
that a couple weeks before that, they had been talking
about a story where a professional athlete saw a dead
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body floating in the water, and they were wondering how
that a was able to go play his game day.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Didn't we talk? We talked about that somewhere. Was it?
Was it on our show or in the grocery? I
feel like we talked about it. I feel like that
was a cut story. I don't really know. Yeah, I don't.
I don't really remember, but I definitely remember seeing that
and thinking like, okay, what's whatever he saw the profect?
Wasn't it a football player? I don't I thought it was.
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You know, my memory is trash. I don't. I feel
like it was a football player. And he like looked
out the window of his hotel room or condo or
something and saw a dead body floating in the water,
and a lot of people thought that that would have
been so disturbing that he wouldn't have been able to
play the next day. And I just was like, Okay,
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big deal, this is Thursday to me, Like whatever, I
don't think we covered this really, okay? A Yeah, So
he reminds them they had been talking about that story
and goes, well, I emailed your co host some pictures
of something I found in the woods, and then all
of a sudden, Elliott goes, you found a dead body.
So this guy emailed them pictures of this body he
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came across.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
In the woods, and he's just so nonchalantly like, yeah,
you know, I always kind of hoped i'd stumble upon
something like this, and I was a little relieved that
it seemed like the person had been there for a
couple months, and I think they just died of an
ode or freezing to death.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I mean, and listen, I wouldn't even have a
problem with this if he called them and just said
that and even said I even took a picture because
I was so shocked. But the very next thing the
guy should have done was called the police and been like,
I just stumbled across a dead body, and instead, no,
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he found it, what was it eighteen days prior? Yes,
And he never called the police. And the first time
he's saying it out loud is to a radio show,
live on the air, just like what So He.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Called on November twenty first, to the radio show So,
which means he found the body at the beginning of November.
He I don't know if you picked this up too,
but I think he was referring to the body as Teddy.
Wouldn't be bumming me out even more so.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
They ask him, I feel like Kevin Spacey in Seven Vibes, like, yes,
there's just something like that's I don't know why. It
just made me think about that because remember he would
be like talking really calm on a on phone calls
or even when he was talking to Brad Pitt, like
it just like it's it's like this very like not bothered.
A normal person that just stumbles across a dead body
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is a little jarred, regardless if you thought they oweded
or whatever. Like it's it's bizarre that his first instinct
wasn't like, let me report this to the police right now.
And this is what makes me think that there's something
much creepier going on here with this dude, Like was
he visiting it, Like what's happening? Well, yeah, so they
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ask if he calls the police, and he said he hadn't,
but he had a dream the night before that he did,
so he thought he was gonna go forward and call them.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
That day and they were like, don't call them later today,
like hang up with us and call them immediately. So
then they start talking amongst each other, like asking the
co host you still have that email, and she's like, no,
I deleted it, and they're like, get it back and
send it to the police. So like they're like, we
need to now take care of this too.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I feel like this is like a moment in The
Fugitive when Tommy what's what's his name? I don't remember.
You know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh, Tommy Lee Jones.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah. I think he's like sitting there when someone's on
the phone with him, going like this, like rolling his finger,
like keep them on the phone so we could get
his phone number. Yeah, that's you know what I mean. Like,
let's see if we could call the cops and be
like we're actively he's on our phone line right now.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Like they literally paused him. They were like hold on,
we're gonna put you. And then they're like asking about
the email. She's like, I don't have it, and they're like,
all right, we'll ask him to send it again.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So they unfosse them.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
They're like, can you send the email again? And he's like, oh, yeah,
it was so weird. They seem so freaked out, which
I totally understand, even if somebody's fucking with you, Like
this is scary because there are real people that do stuff,
and that was that was.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
My first thought when I was reading it. I was
just like, this can't be real. And then sure enough
that police department was like, yes, we found a dead
body there. Then that same day when they when they
heard of the story.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
So they did end up finding the body there, and
then the guy called back instead that the police interviewed
him for several several minutes meaning hours, and they confiscated
his devices for several dates. Yes, so this is really
interesting to me because I wonder what that like, that
radio show had to be involved at some point because
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how else would they figure out who it was?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I mean, now that we're recording it, I'm not gonna wait.
And I should have asked Andrew this yesterday, but I
wanted to be like, what what do you do?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Do you call the police? Like what is your level
of involvement? After? I do wonder if they have a
manual hand to handle these things, what's the procedure? Dude?
Elvis has been on.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
The radio for like over thirty years. Yeah, I'm sure
they've gotten weird calls before. I am too, and I
am too, I'm sure of it, and it might not.
Obviously this is this is kind of like a trophy
call for this guy. Like if this guy ever writes
a book, this is definitely going to be in one
of the top callers. But I mean, I'm sure Elvis
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has had situations where he's just like, like, what is
happening right now? And is this okay that this person's
saying this? So I'm assuming that. So they didn't.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Say what happened, how the police heard it. I mean,
if this guy is syndicated and someone in the town
heard it, they could have just called someone in the
police station might have just been listening and they could
have just went. But also I guess the radio show
could have called the police as well and reported it.
And they also didn't say the connection to how they
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found the guy. But they questioned the guy. They said
that he there doesn't seem to be a threat to
the public, which is possible. Maybe it's just a threat
to himself because he's a crazy, creepy weirdo. I don't know,
like he just a freak. But they took they took
his devices and checked his devices and then he said
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they must not be very good at tech because they
had his devices for like four days. And I'm like, yeah,
they want to see every single thing that you've texted
and googled in the past four days to make sure
that you weren't like, weren't we just talking about necrophilia
and stuff like you know what I mean, Like people
do weird shit with dead bodies, and it's it's just
(40:56):
and and then aside from all this, we have to
think about whoever that was that's dead, is a human
being that had a life. And just to think that
someone would find your dead body there and just not
even care enough, just on a human perspective to report
it so you can, you know, maybe your family that's missing,
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you could know that you're dead, or you could just
get a proper burial. It's just it's just completely like
a there's some kind of line that was crossed there
that that really is upsetting.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Well, yeah, because I'm like, even if this person didn't
murder him, you still just saw a dead person and
just like let it be like you just saw a
rock on the ground or something, and then you called
in and admitted it on a public radio show, like.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
This isn't a deer that got hit by a car,
this is a human being, Like what are you? It's
just so weird.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
That's dead in the woods, Like I just don't understand
what the guy was thinking. And then you're gonna call
the radio and then it seems like he was annoyed
he was interviewed by the police, when it's like, of
course you were. All of your actions were so unusual.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
And like, I just want to know who this guy is.
I want to get him on our show and just
talk to him, and just I just want to know
what he was thinking. I just I'm very interested.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Personally, I don't want to talk to him because he
sounded creepy as fuck. I don't want any interaction with that.
And I'm all like, now there's an open investigation into
this guy's that was found unto the death Right, So
I feel like I won't be surprised if we learned
that he ended up being arrested, and this is gonna
end up being one of those weird Netflix things.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like you don't know show, I don't think that he
I mean, I don't know. I don't know the guy.
I just I think that he's I don't get the
impression that he killed the person. But listen, it's possible
because he said, oh, they probably overdosed or froze to death,
and it's just like, okay, well listen, when we do
the autopsy, we can find out exactly what happened. So
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you could say whatever you think happened. But I mean, listen,
there's a straight up possibility that they do the autopsy
and they're like, this person was beat to death, this
person was strangled, and and then you know, I'm sure
there's some footage somewhere of the guy. I mean, like
there's cameras everywhere. That wasn't it near like a tent
like a tent city kind of thing where there's a
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lot of homeless people.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, And that the froze to death thing was the
weirdest part to me because he's saying, oh, it only
looked like that guy was there a couple of months. Well,
it just started getting cold. This was in Frederick, Maryland,
so it's I've been cold for like three weeks in
this area. It's not very far from us.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I don't even know if it's been froze to death cold.
No is it? I feel like tonight it's actually yeah,
like tonight they said, oh, you know, you have to
watch out because it's it's raining slash snowing around here,
and like watch out in the morning because it's going
to freeze overnight. But like, I don't even know that
that that that might have happened once.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I think it was a slip. He killed this person
and froze their body and then that dumped them in
the woods.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
That's kind of a stretch, but you never know. There's
something up with this dude. All right, let's move on
to your questions and emails. This first one's from Jenna.
I'm an O R nurse and in our small hospital,
we recently had a case of fetal demise at thirty
nine weeks gestation. I just had a question about your
thoughts on having a c section and whether this baby
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would have survived or was likely not to survive anyway.
Mom was thirty nine weeks pregnant with a normal pregnancy,
presented to OBI clinic three times in one week with
a fever and a quote feeling that something is wrong.
The nurses and Obi Juan assessed said baby was okay
and sent mom home twice. On the third time she
presented to the hospital, the baby had no heartbeat. On
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the second presentation, the OBIE nurses communicated to the our
staff of a possible sea section for a patient with
choreo does that Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Mom had to deliver the stillborn and ended up in
ICU with s The doctor who had sent her home
as deflecting any responsibility, and the nurse in me is
wondering if she had made the call to do the section,
would baby be okay or was this infection going.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
To be an issue? Well, first, let's start from the beginning.
Whenever end, listen like, I don't take I've never taken
care of a live person before. So this is just
what I know from working in this field from the
back end of when this happens. Whenever a full term,
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especially full term pregnant person presents with a fever that
should be considered it's considered usually an obstetric emergency, like
because of there's a high probability that it could be
coreo amnitis, which is when there is a bacterial infection
inside of the placenta and it's really, really dangerous for
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both the baby and the mom. So if there's documentation
that she had a fever and went back two different times,
and on that second time, the nurse actually called and
said we might be sending someone over for an emergency
c section, and then let her go home, and then
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when she came back the third time, the baby was dead.
I personally think that that is lawsuit worthy. I don't
know what the outcome would have been, because there are
cases where that happens where it doesn't really matter what
happened that. I mean, the fetus or the baby when
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it's born can have a severe infection, and so could
the mom. And in this case, the mom it did
go into the ICU with I mean, you don't go
into the ICU just for them to watch you. You
have a serious issue. And she had to deliver a stillborn,
which is emotional trauma that you can't ever get back right.
So I think that I think that they were wrong personally, well,
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I don't know what made them say you're fine and
leave if she had a fever, especially two different times.
What happens is that you can get an infection in
the placenta. You can get it two different ways. You
can get it from inside, like if you have an
infection in your body and it goes through your blood.
But the most common way to get it is called
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an ace ending infection, which is when you get it
from bacteria that's in the vagina. So the baby is
in the placenta, is in this sack that keeps it,
the amniotic sack that keeps it protected, but especially during
the end of pregnancy. Well, it could happen at any
time in pregnancy, but that sack could rupture and cause
(47:48):
a like you know, it eventually ruptures for everyone, right,
because that's how your water breaks. You can get a
really small hole in it, which then exposes the baby
to the outside world in a little bit like and
the the mom might not have realized that there that
the that the membranes have ruptured, because sometimes the hole
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is so small that it come it trickles out. It
could almost be like urine, like you might not even
notice it. And when there's that hole, then the baby
could then get bacteria from the vagina up inside of
the placenta, which can then get the baby sick, and
it could also get the mom sick as well. It
actually happened with Lillian when I had her, she had
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coreo amniitis when she was born, or my placenta did so.
But like it happens, and you see it in the
pathology lab. It happens. I mean, it's natural and that's
no one's fault. But when the mom is going and saying,
I have a favor, and I know she said she
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felt like something was wrong, Like that's not really going
to haul up in a court of all, but like
documentation of a fever, and I see, I don't know
this is because I don't treat these patients. I don't
know if they just say, oh, it's a cold, and
like if they did other tests too, did they do
ultrasound to see if her fluid was coming out or
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her oever? Else? I feel like there's another test they
could do too, to see if your membranes have ruptured.
So if they did the proper procedure, then I guess
there's nothing that could have been done. But I feel
like that I hate I've seen it before and I
just hate seeing that because it just didn't need to happen,
and it's it's such a bummer. So I don't know
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what to tell you. I mean, I know you're a
no arner, so that didn't even have anything to do
with you. But it's like that, it's the same thing
working in pathology. When you hear these cases, it's like
you have no control over it. But I guess I
would say for advice, just to be for I don't
really know. If you're pregnant, I guess, and you really
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feel like something's wrong, like maybe just go to a
completely different hospital and just screw your doctors and get
another opinions. That's all I could say.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
All right, This next one's from Aarin. I know him
a few episodes behind and responding to the story. But
the story of the lady biting into her ham sandwich
and seeing maggots reminded me of this nastiness that I
saw over the summer. We were in Barcelona on our
honeymoon at a five star hotel. We went down for
breakfast and the lunch meat, which was ham and turkey,
was covered in fruitflies. They had this net thing over it,
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and the only fruitfly control was just a waving hand
around to show them away. Now, my husband and I
were appalled, but other people at breakfast were eating it
without a care, perhaps avoiding fruitfly covered meat is a
cultural difference between Americans and Europeans, but here it actually
gets so much worse. We arrived at the hotel late
the night before, so we ordered room service, and yes,
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the room service was turkey Panini's with a puking emotion.
I have no doubt that we unknowingly ate fruitfly turkey
and whatever. These flies were seasoning the turkey with love
your show. Congrats on the pregnancy, Maria, Oh my god,
thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Fruit flies are the worst.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
They're really gross.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
This we memory have a funny fruits fly. I's just
gonna say, so this was. This was before. This is
like when I got pregnant with Lilian and me and
Maria were living at Gabes like Gabe's house, So Gabe
had his own house before we moved in with them,
before we moved in with them. So we moved into
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his house and we were I wasn't Thanksgiving. I feel
like we were like in the kitchen cooking Thanksgiving dinner
and there were like thousands of fruit flies around, and
I was just like, I don't this was. It was
a couple of days after Thanksgiving, Okay, so I I
knew it was around this time of year. So I
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was just like, why are there so many fruit flies around?
Like where are they coming from? This isn't even because
I feel like I feel like flies are like at
least around here. Anyway, they seem to be worse in
the summer because you have like food on the counter
and stuff, and I'm like, I don't even understand what's happening.
Then I finally realized that they were like around the microwave,
like the whole kitchen was clean. Like I just didn't understand.
(52:15):
So I moved the I moved the microwave back and
there's like a full bunch of bananas back there that
are pitch black, and my first instinct they were mummified,
and my first instinct was to pick them up. So
I pick them up and like you know, by where
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they're all attached, and they all just fell right off
of it because they were so rotten and and like
all of these flies were like coming out of the pile.
And I was like, okay, well that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Well can I just speak to like typical man house
not making sense? Like he had all this counter space
and the microwave like angled in the corner, so there
was that big space behind the microwave and they fell back.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Well, whatever, his house was
pretty nice for a manhouse. It was.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
I just say there was like it wasn't decorated.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yes, there was a lot of questionable choices, but it
wasn't the worst. It was like a semi bachelor pad,
not one hundred percent. It could have been made more homey,
but all right, I just decided to get her for now.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
The last question is do people point out your Philly accents? Yes,
white hoofed.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
All the time, so mine next door neighbor and Nicoles.
She sent me a video. I forgot to send it
to you. You know how, there's like these people that
do like their aunts and uncles and stuff. Yeah, like talking.
I don't know what this particular person was called. I
was just cracking up because I was like, this sounds
like like one of my family members talking. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I would say, your accent's pretty strong South Jersey accent.
There is like differences between like the area we live
Philly proper and then Delco has the worst accent, which
if anas Northeast Philly is worst, and don't Northeast Philly
does have a bad accent too, if you got if
anybody watched that show Task on HBO, it's the Delco
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accent times a thousand. Like everybody doesn't sound that thick,
but it's it's influenced by it certainly. And we Ricky,
We're just talking about this the other day because Louis
actually has the worst.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Accent out of all of us.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
And I think because he doesn't talk that you don't
pick it up. But when he does talk, I'm like,
holy shit, he has a super thick South Jersey accent.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
See, I don't even notice because because we all have it. No,
I do know. I noticed it. Yeah, but Ricky has
Delco like the Northeast Philly one. It's because some of
my older cousins like have it. It's just like whenever
I hear someone talking, but I think about, like, are
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like my dad's side of the family Christmas, Like, even
if it's not them talking, I'm like, this is what
it sounds like because a lot of them live in
the Northeast.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yes, And something they say in particular up there is
instead of saying almond and salmon, they say almond and salmon.
I know, And I have a lot like eagles. Yeah,
pop Up says eggs. When he says eggs.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Well, he doesn't say anything right. He say anything right.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Some people say wash instead of wash. I feel like
something I have that's a problem, as I say milk,
like milk.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
No, you know what? You know what. Andrea's favorite one was,
she said, my friend Andrea is a PA two. We
used to work together for a couple of years and
she was from Upstate, New York and when she came
here she would make fun of some of the stuff
I said. And one of them, I was like, oh,
we gotta We were doing some project in the lab
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and I was like, oh, we gotta go to the
store and get crowns. And she's like yeah, She's like
what and I was like crowns And then she's like
what are you saying? And I was like, crowns the
things you color with. And then she's like, well, what
do you call the thing a king wears on his head?
And I said a crown And then she said say
them both. I said, crown crowned. I feel I feel
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like ye. One of my students she was from China
and she, oh, my god, this is the best story ever.
She she says to us, like, so her name, her
last name was uh, I don't want to say her
last name, but it was pronounced jiang right, and then
Jung like that that's how she said it. So then
she said she's getting married. And then I said, what's
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your new last name? And it was spelled completely different
with like x'es and seid disease and stuff like that.
I said, oh, how do you say it? And she
says Jung? And I said how do you say your
original last name? And she said Jung And I was like,
it's the same thing, and she's like, no, it's different.
She kept saying it's different. I'm like, no, it's just
sounds the same. So it's the same as mine. Crown
and crown, they sound the same. There's just a.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Lot of words people say here that are just so off,
and I just feel like the general use of melpropisms
is all over the place. Nobody is ever saying the
right word or phrase for anything. It's something very specific
to the Philadelphia.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. We have a
lot to go over this week. Of course, everything we
can't bring you on the Mother Knows Death Podcast we
cover in the gross rooms. To make sure you check
out the latest post articles and YouTube live episodes that
we have in there. On today's episode, we're going to
get into Kim Kardashian's low brain activity and the dangers
(00:42):
of competitive eating. Then we're going to get into a
lighter topic like necrophilia. We'll finish off the episode talking
about dancing in poop and who you should call or
who you should not call when you find a dead body.
All that and more, plus your questions comments emails. Let's
get arted with Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
All right, So on the show, On the episode they
came out last week, Kim and Scott distick. Which is
it not weird that she still hangs out with her
sister's ex like that that they're going and doing these
scans together anyway they go together.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I don't know, it's like, I mean, listen, like these
people don't do anything that normal people would do, but
it is you know, their kids seem to be all
close and hang out, and it's the kid's dad, so
I mean they see him all the time. I'm sure
if remembering correctly, though, I feel like Courtney expressed that
(01:35):
she wasn't comfortable with them being so close with him
because she's married to Travis Barker now they have a kid,
and her and Scott haven't been together for a long
time and they had issues for a long time. So
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I haven't watched the show in a really long time,
so I only turned the episode on to watch this
part because I don't feel like the articles always accurately
translate the scene, and I wanted to see it for myself.
So anyway, Kim, It'scott going this doctor, which I assume
they were going to a neurologist. I was surprised it
was the psychiatrist performing this test. But they get these
scans done on their brain, and as they're reviewing them,
(02:09):
the doctor tells her she is a beautiful brain, not
the type to get Alzheimer's or anything, which I just
think that's kind of ridiculous to say, because how would
you know. This article said she had a low risk
of Alzheimer's, But that's not what was said in the episode.
He said she didn't have the type of brain to
develop Alzheimer's, And then he said, oh wait, though, you
have some holes, which indicates you have low brain activity
(02:32):
and we need.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
To fix this. This actually makes perfect sense because the
frontal lobe of your brain is what controls your emotions
and your impulsivity and your decision making, right, Like, that's
the part of your brain that could get really affected
if you're a chronic alcoholic and you just start making
terrible decisions. So that's the only explanation for all of
(02:55):
this is that Because when you read the article or
the last one or anything that she's been doing for years,
you're just like, why on earth would a person go
on and say that they have low brain activity in
their frontal loop, Like why why would you tell people
that that's that's probably a negative. There's a reason for it,
I'm sure, because everything they do is calculated, and maybe
(03:18):
she's just doing that. So if she never passes this
bar exam that she's trying to take, nobody's really gonna
think that that she's just dumb because she's she has
like scans to prove that she has a pathology going
on in her brain.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, I mean he told her it was most likely
caused by her chronic stress levels because of studying for
the bar, because of being one of the most famous
people on the planet. I'm sure your life is not
that peaceful when you're monitored every single moment of your life.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Listen. I I don't want to ever say that she
doesn't have stress, but I like boo frickin' who well, like,
guess what, I'm listen, Like a lot of people, obviously,
most people in the world aren't dealing with the level
of pressure and stress that she's dealing with all the time.
But at the same time, she doesn't deal with what
(04:09):
all of us are dealing with all the time, which
is money, which is a big thing, security, safety, all
that kind of stuff, Like her kids go to school
with security guards and shit like we get to just
send our kids to school and don't have our guards
standing next to our children. She doesn't have to worry
about paying a mortgage on one house, let alone twenty houses.
(04:30):
Like that stuff puts a lot of stress on regular
people too. So if you looked at any woman's brain,
that's her age I'm sure it looks worse.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Honestly, I did this think it was interesting because I mean,
I'm sure this was edited out of order from what
it was filmed, but she was discussing what appeared to
be before the scan that she thought it was weird
because when she's in high stress situations, or she's in
what a normal person would be in fight or flight mode,
she remains completely co and basically emotionless about it, right,
(05:04):
which I just thought was interesting That ended up coming up.
And we had reported a couple of weeks ago that
she got the Pernubo scan and they said that she
had a minor brain aneurysm or something, so, which was
total crap.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
All that is all it is. That entire scene was
just a complete advertisement for that thing, and it if
it was bad, they would be they would be doing
surgery and treatment on it, if it was something that
was about to burst and kill her. Yeah, It's like
if you looked at anything and this is the thing.
(05:36):
Like you know how many autopsies I've done that you
just find random shit that people didn't even know they had.
One time, I did an autopsy on a woman that
was over fifty years old. That had a horseshoe kidney.
She didn't even know she had one kidney her whole life,
you know what I mean. Like another person died from
a heart issue and had a huge brain tumor they
didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You find stuff all the time, so if you do
a scan on anyone, you're gonna find something. Oh, you
have a cyst on your kidney. Oh that would have
been the bit like who cares like it's it's it
Actually would have been more of a story if she
had this aneurism and she had to go into emergency
surgery and get it handled because she was about to
have a stroke, right, Like I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I just was looking at the whole thing. Is this
is so la going to this?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I just like I just can't getting this scan, I understand,
like the whole like the naked thing. And they asked
it like the attention, you look good, you want attention whatever?
I just don't know why you would want attention for
for having low brain activity.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, I mean, there's only so many scenes they could
film of them eating salads in their kitchen, so they
need something to do.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you remember that person that was going viral a
couple of years ago. My favorite social media videos of
all time are ones of people who make fun of celebrities,
like that, who's that one guy that makes fun of
Mega Markle? He's freaking hilarious. Oh he is funny. He's
so funny. Right, So I think his names I don't know.
(07:10):
I follow, but I don't remember what his name is,
but that those videos are hilarious. Well, there was there
was a girl that was making fun of the Kardashians
and it was so funny. She in every single clip
she made, she had like a salad bowl in one
of those plastic containers and.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Was like shaking it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's all they did. And then she would put on
these really long fake nails that were like long post
it notes and then she'd go like that. She did
them so good though, it just was it was just
so great. I haven't seen them in a while, so
I don't know if she's still doing it. But she
did the whole like, uh, you know, the one sister
that's like dead behind the eyes kind of Yeah, she
(07:48):
did her like, oh my god, it just was so good.
So so anyway, yeah, let's let's talk about something. Okay,
A fitness instructor was trying to promote his weight loss
program by doing this challenge where he quickly gained fifty
pounds and then was trying to lose it. But he
ended up dying from your favorite term ever, cardiac orist.
(08:09):
Oh my god, how annoying is that. Oh he died
because his heart stopped. So does everybody else's when they die. Okay,
so he didn't die from cardiac arrest. So why did
he die? We don't really know because they didn't tell us.
But just think. Let's think about what happens if you
do that and gain fifty pounds intentionally. What was it
thirty pounds in a month or fifty pounds over the course.
(08:30):
I think goal was to gain fifty, but he ended
up gaining thirty in a month. Yeah. So here's a
list of some of the stuff that he was eating.
It was he would have a breakfast plate of pastries,
half of a cake, Hamburger's, two pizzas for dinner. So
(08:50):
obviously he's like when people. This made me think about
when people gain weight for roles for movies. Right. Yeah,
it's done in a very controlled environment where you have
a nutritionist, and that's and physicians that are watching over
you and checking your blood work, and they're not having
you gain weight by eating. It's more like a weight
(09:14):
gainer they have you have rather than just eating like
pure shit because it's it's the cholesterol could be so
high and make your blood cholesterol go higher. Yeah, So
he was eating total junk food and gaining.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Weight and up to ten thousand calories a day.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, which is a lot, especially if you're not used
to eating like that. But that increase in cholesterol like
that is worse for a more of a long term thing,
Like it could damage your blood vessels. It could cause
you to get plaques in your arteries, and over time
that could cause you to have problems with your heart
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and your cardiovascular system in general. But you know, even
when I remember, like Christian Bale had to gain weight
for some role, I don't remember which one it was,
but he said that he was having cardiac effects because
of it, and he was in a controlled situation where
he was trying to do it as healthy as possible.
So there's just lots of different things that could happen, Like,
(10:19):
because I'm listen, there's people out there that eat ten
thousand calories a day. I mean, we've all seen my
six hundred pound life and stuff like that. In order
to maintain a weight of that high, you have to
be taking in calories that high, right, But when you're not,
when your body is not used to that and you
go from eating like two thousand calories a day to
ten thousand calories a day in the course of a month,
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you're going to have issues with high blood pressure your body.
When your body gets bigger, you get more blood, so
your heart pumps more. And then when you get fat,
you get This is one of the things because everyone
says that I'm obsessed with fat, right, Well, it's because
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it causes the problem on your organs. It causes visceral fat.
So if he gained thirty pounds in a month, some
of that weight is fat around his heart, which is
also causing his heart to work harder. So he probably
had like he went into cardiac arrest because his heart
stopped because of either high blood pressure or just because
(11:24):
of the immense weight that was on his heart just
from the visceral fat, increased blood Strogers could have done
could have done it. It changes your hormones. Like all
of these different things are happening at once that your
body's not used to. And also let's not forget that
he was a fitness person, and we don't know his
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condition before he even started, Like could it be that
he was taking like anabolic steroids at some point, like
we don't know, which also could have contributed to him
having a weaker heart. So all we know is said
his heart stopped. We don't really know why. But obviously
doing something like this is a terrible idea just to
(12:08):
just to prove that you're gonna put this this new
lifestyle like out there on the internet for people to
to want to buy into, like, hey, I just gained
fifty pounds and I just lost it with this, because
that's not even realistic either for a person that's overweight
that needs to lose fifty pounds, like he's obviously going
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to lose it faster because he put it on like that,
you know what I mean. It's just like not an
equal comparison.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, And he seeming like a lot of times people
that have issues losing weightter people that have lifelong struggles
with eating. So it's exactly it clearly doesn't if he's
a fitness coach, right, and if he just I mean
if he ate like that for a month and then
went back to just eating the way he did, he
would just lose it naturally, Like he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
He has to try, And.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He's a guy like whenever, rick Yeah, exactly, Iver Reck
and I are like, oh, let's go and a diet together.
Ricky will lose twenty five pounds in like two months,
and I'll be like, I lost two pounds and we're
eating the same exact meals basically, with me eating a
lesser portion than him.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, it's ridiculous. It really is ridiculous because the same
exact thing happens the game two like, and it's out
the window. Now. Eggnog LTEs are backs, Like you know
what I used to I used to love the eggnog
latte until I realized that I think it's the Grande
size at Starbucks. The eggnog latte is like six hundred
(13:32):
and sixty calories. Actually, then I'm like, I'm never having
one of them again. Hold on, it just came out today.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I want to see what it says because they haven't
had it in a while, and now on the app
it has to say what the calories are on the Dan.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It's basically made with heavy cream, so it's you're it's
like you're you're you're drinking melted ice cream, essentially a
Grande's four hundred calories so much that's actually hot it.
So what's the is the VENTI won six five ten.
I wonder if they changed something in it. I felt
like it was so many calories that I was I
(14:07):
was so shocked before. Yeah, that's good. Four hundred is
less than your thoughts. It's still way too much. That's
like what you should be eating for dinner or something.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But Okay, my birthday is this week and it's gonna
be my treat.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I'm I'm getting one, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And another horrific eating challengees thirty two year old man
died from asphyxiation after eating dozens of live cockroaches at
an event at a reptile store. So this happened a
while ago, right, this happened in twenty twelve. We don't
understand why these articles just suddenly start parking.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean, listen, I don't I don't mind because I
never heard of this, and I'm just like, oh, okay,
we need Like I can't even believe that that this
is actually real.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I can't either, And so as I'm getting further in
the article, it's like thirty people participated in this bug
eating contest with hopes of winning a python. And then
there was multiple rounds, so the other rounds that were
eating different kinds of bugs that weren't disclosed, and then
the final round was they had to eat live cockroaches
which were three to four inches in length, and that's
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when this guy had a problem. But no other participants.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So the first thing I thought of before so his
his his cause of death was that he had aspiration
pneumonia and he had inhaled some of his his vomit
actually right, so and they could see evidence of that.
You could actually see vomit in the airway. But also
(15:41):
under the microscope. Typically if it's a person that's eating
normal food, you would see muscle cells like from animally
eating you know, chicken or pork or something like that.
Or you would see plant cells if you were eating
celery or broccoli or something like that in the lung tissue,
which you never should see in this case. I mean,
(16:05):
most people don't eat bugs. But the first thing I
was thinking about was just a cockroach in general, or
really just trying to eat something that's alive in general
and trying to get as much of it as you
possibly can down your throat to compete. Is it possible
that he put it in his mouth and like he
put three or four in his mouth at once, and
(16:26):
one of them he didn't chew all the way or
it needed to chew even a little bit, and so
you have a moving piece of food in your mouth
as well, right, And what the pathologists that did the
autopsy said that they saw that there was evidence that
it got down past the epiglottis, which is the flap
that usually so there's a flap called the epiglottis in
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the back of the throat that covers the airway while
you eat, and obviously it fails in everyone once in
a while because that's when you're eating and you start
coughing and your eyes start to because it went down
the wrong pipe. That's what people would say, right, so
that ultimately was his cause of death. But think about
(17:09):
just a cockroach in general. They have that chit lin
whatever it's called. That's what their exoskeleton is made out of.
And our enzymes in our saliva don't break that down
even a little bit. So if you put a piece
of bread in your mouth, for example, it'll it'll like
melt in your mouth. You know what I mean. If
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you put a cockroach in your mouth, it doesn't matter
if it sits there all day, it's still gonna say
four inches in your mouth and not break down at all.
So you're chewing essentially plastic, right, and then it goes
into your gi system. And I'm gonna go out on
a limb and say, if he even survived this, this
initial choking episode, he would have had a huge issue
(17:53):
just passing all of those exoskeletons because our digestive juices
don't break them down.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Well, what I was gonna ask too, is don't they
say that cockroaches could live like a week without their
heads or something? So like, is it even really dead?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Is? I don't break it down, but I don't know it.
I mean your stomach as it breaks some of the
pieces of it, but not the actual skeleton of it.
And if you have one, fine, go to the bathroom.
But just think about it as like being ale a
piece of plastic in your stomach and all of a
sudden you ate fifty of these things, like it could
form a beez or or cause like an obstruction of
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a foreign substance, the same as it would if you
had too many seeds or anything that's not considered edible.
It happens with hair or something like that, Like it's
going to cause an obstruction in the GI system.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I just can't understand. I mean, aren't cockroaches considered like dirty?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I don't understand. And his girlfriend was saying that this
wasn't the first time he ate bugs. Well whatever. I mean,
people could eat bugs if they want to eat bugs.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I mean, some cultures eat them, but I just don't
understand the desire to eat cockroaches in particular.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think it's the weirdest part of it is it
was to win a free python and he was going
to give it to like his a friend or.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Something female friend, which I was like, that's weird, but
like you're so maybe that's why he wanted to be
Like maybe he didn't have enough to afford to buy
or one and he thought like he would have been
cool if he won or something.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I can't believe thirty people participated in this, but it
was in Florida, which we know a lot of weird
things go down there. It's why there's like the whole
stigma about Florida, Man, and there's now a whole show
about the weird stuff going on down there.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, no, it's it is really true. This episode is
brought to you by the Grossroom. So, speaking of things
happen in Florida, we had a post in the Gross
Room this week about another crazy true crime case that's
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coming out of Maricopa County in Arizona, which we've said
on this show and that this final one maybe finally
make a post about it and be like, yo, people,
what's up with what's happening in Arizona? Is that hot
temperature like frying people's brains or something. It just seems
like there's so many high profile cases that happen there,
(20:28):
but also other ones that are happening too. Of course,
the most famous one is the Jody Aras Areas in
Travis Alexander one, right, but like, well there's.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Jody Areas, Ruby, Frankie and then Hazzard.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Remember that that case of the husband that was watching
the the little toddler that drowned in the pool recently, Yeah,
that case was in Maricopa County. It's just like every
single time, it seems like we're reading something but it's
either Americopa County in Arizona or Florida, So like, what's
(21:04):
all I could say is that they both have hot temperatures,
but that's my personal opinion. But anyway, we had our
YouTube live yesterday too, so we do an additional episode
in the grocer Room once a week, and there we
talked about different stories that we don't talk about on here.
So we talked about Brian Coberger case. There's a little
bit of new information out there that one of the
(21:26):
families is suing Washington State University, and also that there
was an inappropriate social media post going around with the
actors who were playing their dead children on a Lifetime movie.
So we got into that a little bit, and of
course we had to bring up RFKJ and filching that
(21:47):
was It's always classy, and just the Kennedy curse in general,
because one of JFK's grandkids just said that she has
a terminal illness and she's pretty young. So we were
talking about all that, and you could watch that episod
so live, but you also can go back and watch
it if you're interested.
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Speaker 2 (22:09):
Oh god, this is the light topic of the day. Necrophilia.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Back in twenty twenty two, this couple was about to
finalize their divorce and that's when the husband decided he
was going to hide in his estrange wife's apartment, kill her,
and then bury her body in a shallow grave in
the desert. But the next morning he decided he was
gonna go back, dig her up, and he had sex
with her corpse and then buried her again.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, so this case is really disturbing, obviously, and he
admitted this all to the investigators, which I thought was unusual.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, I mean, when you do an autopsy, you can tell,
because really, yeah, because if they're they're going to do
an exam and see if she was actually assaulted, and
then they're gonna be able to see if she has
a vaginal or anal lacerations, tears, any thing like that,
and if there's any hemorrhage associated with it, so they
(23:03):
could tell when a wound is made post mortem versus
before the person died. So I mean, and of course,
if they see any evidence of that she had sex,
they're going to do a kit and they'll be able
to see that it was him, and if they're able to,
they could look grossly and microscopically to prove if the
(23:24):
if the terrors happened before after she died, So I
mean he could have he didn't have to admit it,
but like eventually he would have got caught with it anyway.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I just thought this was weird and maybe I'm misunderstanding it,
but it seems like he was pretty open about what happened,
and they even had this quote from him saying if
I didn't commit to being a monster, then she would
have died for no reason. But then he ended up
being on trial and was just found guilty in his
facing sentencing next month. So I'm confused why it went
(23:54):
to trial if he even if he was open about it.
But maybe he told them and then decided plead not guilty.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I don't really know. So one of the most interesting
things I learned about necrophilia a couple years was it
last year or a couple of years ago in the
grocer room redid a high profile that the section on necrophilia,
and it's it's it's an interesting subject. I like to
I like to discuss things that are that are just
interesting to me. And one of the things that I
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learned about it because when anybody reads this article, they're
just like, oh God, this guy's like some sick, weird,
pervert guy. And there's all different forms of necrophilia, some
of which is just I mean not just but people
having it usually happens with men, but it kind of
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there's cases of it happening with women homosexual men as well,
So it usually happens with with heterosexual males, but I
mean Jeffrey Dahmer is a good example, you know, did
something like that too, So it's doesn't always fall into
this one category. But sometimes there's cases of it happening
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with people who were seemingly happily married and the wife
dies and it's just because of extreme grief that the
husband will have sex with her. So that could even
be the case here if he killed her and then
went back because he felt some kind of extreme grief
from it. But then there's a sliding scale of just
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how disturbing and weird it gets. And I'll never forget that.
I'm speaking of Brian Coberger. I was listening to some
a psychologist or psychiatrist on Nancy Grace's show was talking
about that crime and said that she wouldn't be surprised
if after he mutilated their bodies that he masturbated right afterwards,
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because that's like one of the classes of necrophilia of
just the only way that you could get sexual satisfaction
and climaxes from doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, and we had been critical of the prosecutor who
said there was no sexual nature to this crime, because
I mean, just because he maybe didn't sectually assault them
doesn't mean he didn't go home and.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Get ex to it later. Yeah. So there's just like
all different situations. So yeah, check. You could just search
in the gross room for necrophilia and read all about that,
and then I have some actual cases of autopsies where
that happened, so and there you'll see pictures of how
they could tell dead verses alive and things like that.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
All Right, So the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade was last
week and as some of the performers were coming up
in front of the store, I guess a police horse
had pooped in the middle of the street and there
were forced to dance in the poop. This is like
little girls, like pre teenage girls dancing in this horse poop.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I just I think it's so wrong. It's really it's
it's just like a really weird situation. Because think about this.
If you are a dancer and you're in a dance
school and you get asked to dance into Macy's Day
Thanksgiving parade, that's like a huge, huge, it's huge for
especially a little kid to have that honor kind of
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and you're in a group of kids and you're all
just like, there's no one stopping you, and you're I
guess they just thought, like like someone wrote that in
one of the comments, like the show must go on right, Yeah,
like they just didn't they they didn't know not to
do it right. And I would think like if I
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was twelve years old doing that and I shouldn't have
been doing it, that my mom or my dance teacher
would have ran in and grabbed me or something like
nobody stopped it, and it would have been kind of
weird to just stop in the middle of the parade.
And you know, like we lived when I went to
Jefferson for setology, Maria and I lived in a society
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hill in in Philly for that year while I went
to school. And we had the horse and carriage go
by our apartment every single day, multiple times a day
and shit on the street, and it just meld like
horse poop in the air all the time. Some like
some of those carriages now have these like bags that
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hang under their butt that catches the poop. But I
mean back in early two thousands when we were there,
they were just pooping on the street. It was like
we stepped in it all the time, just crossing the
street and stuff. It just it was there all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
This is my grape with it though, Like they're not
performing the entire length of the parade. There's like checkpoints
right that they stop at, So why can't they devote
They said they work with a sanitation crew and they
don't know what happened basically that allowed it to happen.
But like, wouldn't you think that they could take one
to two minutes to like at least push it to
the side so they don't have to dance in the
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turds itself. And I thought they were barefoot at first,
but they had those like skin colored tights with the
nude shoes on too, you know, So at first I
was like, oh my god, these poor little girls are
barefoot in this horsepoop. They did have shoes on, but
then people were also pointing out dance shoes are incredibly expensive.
I'm sure you know, because Lubret dances.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, I mean they are, they are, and it's I mean,
that's listen. It's gross. And but also there is a
risk with it as well, because I mean, at least
they're not barefoot, so if they did have obviously, if
they had any open cuts on their feet or something,
you're putting fecal matter into a cut, so you could
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get a serious infection. And I mean it still could
kind of get in because if it's getting through those
shoes and those little stockings, like, it could still get
into their like I'm sure when they took their little
stockings off, their feet had shit on them still, right,
So and then another factor that you have to take
into consideration is when the kid because now you're you're
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not going into a house like somebody has to. The
kid has to get somewhere to get into a shower
and everything. So now you have people and maybe the
child or a person helping that's now touching fecal matter.
I mean, that's what it's poop, Right, it's not as
high as a risk as you would say, like pig
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poop or something, just because they eat like or any
animal that's not an herbivore, you know what I mean,
like you would get you have like less of a risk,
but they still carry certain parasites, they still carry certain bacterias. Actually,
horseman or is considered one of the risk factors for
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tetanus because of the even though it's not in the poop,
it's could be in the spores near the stables where
they're at. So I don't know if they considered this
to be an exposure. I mean, the good thing is
is that they're all young and it would probably only
cause a problem in someone that was immunocompromise, like an
older person. But certainly children can have autoimmune conditions and
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be on certain medications as well that they're immuno compromise.
But it's it's not like you never really want your
child to touch an animal poop. I mean, it's just
you know what I mean, you're just like risking it.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's just gross and it seems unnecessary that they couldn't
have cleaned it up quickly before they showed up, because
I just think it was like.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
One kid did it, and they all looked at each
other and we're like, I guess we're doing this. And
then you have thirty kids stomping and shit, and they're like, okay,
like let's not make a big scene of this. But
I love that for their professionalists. I know, right, they're
like they're gonna. I just I love when shit like
this happens, and like someone just so happens to be
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recording it, and you're that person was probably like, am
I watching this right now? It looks so funny?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
All right? So a couple weeks ago, Elliott Siegel, who
hosts the DC radio show Elliot in the Morning's doing
his show. Everything seemed to be normal until they got
a call from a listener saying that he found a
dead body in the woods and didn't bother to call
the police.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Did you listen to the audio from this? Yes? It
was so disturbing. It is disturbing, and I'm still I
don't know that we've heard the end of this yet
because it's very, very weird. And of course, the first
person that we thought of was Elvis Duran and his
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amazing show and everyone on the show. We were thinking,
Oh my god, this could totally happen to them too,
and how would they handle this. I would just really,
I really want to talk to him about this, because
obviously millions of people are listening to your show, so
you just have that out there. But and Elvis has
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been on for so long, so I'm just wondering if
he's ever had another situation where he was like, I
better call the police because I'm not just the dead
body thing, but like anything that anybody could have said,
because people do want to get attention from doing things
like that sometimes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well, we did text this to Andrew and Celia to
see if they saw it. And Andrew told us the
fun fact that Elliott used to be Elvis's co host.
Oh really, go So that is such a random part
of the story, but this is basically what happened. They
got a call from this guy who said his name
was Joseph and didn't want to reveal his real name,
and his voice was just very creepy, and he was
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very calm the entire time, which is added to the
eeriness of it. So I guess, you know, he calls
in and they he says he sends the other radio
host pictures of something he found, and he's reminding them
that a couple weeks before that, they had been talking
about a story where a professional athlete saw a dead
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body floating in the water, and they were wondering how
that a was able to go play his game day.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Didn't we talk? We talked about that somewhere. Was it?
Was it on our show or in the grocery? I
feel like we talked about it. I feel like that
was a cut story. I don't really know. Yeah, I don't.
I don't really remember, but I definitely remember seeing that
and thinking like, okay, what's whatever he saw the profect?
Wasn't it a football player? I don't I thought it was.
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You know, my memory is trash. I don't. I feel
like it was a football player. And he like looked
out the window of his hotel room or condo or
something and saw a dead body floating in the water,
and a lot of people thought that that would have
been so disturbing that he wouldn't have been able to
play the next day. And I just was like, Okay,
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big deal, this is Thursday to me, Like whatever, I
don't think we covered this really, okay? A Yeah, So
he reminds them they had been talking about that story
and goes, well, I emailed your co host some pictures
of something I found in the woods, and then all
of a sudden, Elliott goes, you found a dead body.
So this guy emailed them pictures of this body he
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came across.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
In the woods, and he's just so nonchalantly like, yeah,
you know, I always kind of hoped i'd stumble upon
something like this, and I was a little relieved that
it seemed like the person had been there for a
couple months, and I think they just died of an
ode or freezing to death.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I mean, and listen, I wouldn't even have a
problem with this if he called them and just said
that and even said I even took a picture because
I was so shocked. But the very next thing the
guy should have done was called the police and been like,
I just stumbled across a dead body, and instead, no,
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he found it, what was it eighteen days prior? Yes,
And he never called the police. And the first time
he's saying it out loud is to a radio show,
live on the air, just like what So He.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Called on November twenty first, to the radio show So,
which means he found the body at the beginning of November.
He I don't know if you picked this up too,
but I think he was referring to the body as Teddy.
Wouldn't be bumming me out even more so.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
They ask him, I feel like Kevin Spacey in Seven Vibes, like, yes,
there's just something like that's I don't know why. It
just made me think about that because remember he would
be like talking really calm on a on phone calls
or even when he was talking to Brad Pitt, like
it just like it's it's like this very like not bothered.
A normal person that just stumbles across a dead body
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is a little jarred, regardless if you thought they oweded
or whatever. Like it's it's bizarre that his first instinct
wasn't like, let me report this to the police right now.
And this is what makes me think that there's something
much creepier going on here with this dude, Like was
he visiting it, Like what's happening? Well, yeah, so they
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ask if he calls the police, and he said he hadn't,
but he had a dream the night before that he did,
so he thought he was gonna go forward and call them.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
That day and they were like, don't call them later today,
like hang up with us and call them immediately. So
then they start talking amongst each other, like asking the
co host you still have that email, and she's like, no,
I deleted it, and they're like, get it back and
send it to the police. So like they're like, we
need to now take care of this too.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I feel like this is like a moment in The
Fugitive when Tommy what's what's his name? I don't remember.
You know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh, Tommy Lee Jones.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah. I think he's like sitting there when someone's on
the phone with him, going like this, like rolling his finger,
like keep them on the phone so we could get
his phone number. Yeah, that's you know what I mean. Like,
let's see if we could call the cops and be
like we're actively he's on our phone line right now.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Like they literally paused him. They were like hold on,
we're gonna put you. And then they're like asking about
the email. She's like, I don't have it, and they're like,
all right, we'll ask him to send it again.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So they unfosse them.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
They're like, can you send the email again? And he's like, oh, yeah,
it was so weird. They seem so freaked out, which
I totally understand, even if somebody's fucking with you, Like
this is scary because there are real people that do stuff,
and that was that was.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
My first thought when I was reading it. I was
just like, this can't be real. And then sure enough
that police department was like, yes, we found a dead
body there. Then that same day when they when they
heard of the story.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
So they did end up finding the body there, and
then the guy called back instead that the police interviewed
him for several several minutes meaning hours, and they confiscated
his devices for several dates. Yes, so this is really
interesting to me because I wonder what that like, that
radio show had to be involved at some point because
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how else would they figure out who it was?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I mean, now that we're recording it, I'm not gonna wait.
And I should have asked Andrew this yesterday, but I
wanted to be like, what what do you do?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Do you call the police? Like what is your level
of involvement? After? I do wonder if they have a
manual hand to handle these things, what's the procedure? Dude?
Elvis has been on.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
The radio for like over thirty years. Yeah, I'm sure
they've gotten weird calls before. I am too, and I
am too, I'm sure of it, and it might not.
Obviously this is this is kind of like a trophy
call for this guy. Like if this guy ever writes
a book, this is definitely going to be in one
of the top callers. But I mean, I'm sure Elvis
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has had situations where he's just like, like, what is
happening right now? And is this okay that this person's
saying this? So I'm assuming that. So they didn't.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Say what happened, how the police heard it. I mean,
if this guy is syndicated and someone in the town
heard it, they could have just called someone in the
police station might have just been listening and they could
have just went. But also I guess the radio show
could have called the police as well and reported it.
And they also didn't say the connection to how they
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found the guy. But they questioned the guy. They said
that he there doesn't seem to be a threat to
the public, which is possible. Maybe it's just a threat
to himself because he's a crazy, creepy weirdo. I don't know,
like he just a freak. But they took they took
his devices and checked his devices and then he said
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they must not be very good at tech because they
had his devices for like four days. And I'm like, yeah,
they want to see every single thing that you've texted
and googled in the past four days to make sure
that you weren't like, weren't we just talking about necrophilia
and stuff like you know what I mean, Like people
do weird shit with dead bodies, and it's it's just
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and and then aside from all this, we have to
think about whoever that was that's dead, is a human
being that had a life. And just to think that
someone would find your dead body there and just not
even care enough, just on a human perspective to report
it so you can, you know, maybe your family that's missing,
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you could know that you're dead, or you could just
get a proper burial. It's just it's just completely like
a there's some kind of line that was crossed there
that that really is upsetting.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Well, yeah, because I'm like, even if this person didn't
murder him, you still just saw a dead person and
just like let it be like you just saw a
rock on the ground or something, and then you called
in and admitted it on a public radio show, like.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
This isn't a deer that got hit by a car,
this is a human being, Like what are you? It's
just so weird.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
That's dead in the woods, Like I just don't understand
what the guy was thinking. And then you're gonna call
the radio and then it seems like he was annoyed
he was interviewed by the police, when it's like, of
course you were. All of your actions were so unusual.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
And like, I just want to know who this guy is.
I want to get him on our show and just
talk to him, and just I just want to know
what he was thinking. I just I'm very interested.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Personally, I don't want to talk to him because he
sounded creepy as fuck. I don't want any interaction with that.
And I'm all like, now there's an open investigation into
this guy's that was found unto the death Right, So
I feel like I won't be surprised if we learned
that he ended up being arrested, and this is gonna
end up being one of those weird Netflix things.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like you don't know show, I don't think that he
I mean, I don't know. I don't know the guy.
I just I think that he's I don't get the
impression that he killed the person. But listen, it's possible
because he said, oh, they probably overdosed or froze to death,
and it's just like, okay, well listen, when we do
the autopsy, we can find out exactly what happened. So
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you could say whatever you think happened. But I mean, listen,
there's a straight up possibility that they do the autopsy
and they're like, this person was beat to death, this
person was strangled, and and then you know, I'm sure
there's some footage somewhere of the guy. I mean, like
there's cameras everywhere. That wasn't it near like a tent
like a tent city kind of thing where there's a
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lot of homeless people.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, And that the froze to death thing was the
weirdest part to me because he's saying, oh, it only
looked like that guy was there a couple of months. Well,
it just started getting cold. This was in Frederick, Maryland,
so it's I've been cold for like three weeks in
this area. It's not very far from us.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I don't even know if it's been froze to death cold.
No is it? I feel like tonight it's actually yeah,
like tonight they said, oh, you know, you have to
watch out because it's it's raining slash snowing around here,
and like watch out in the morning because it's going
to freeze overnight. But like, I don't even know that
that that that might have happened once.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I think it was a slip. He killed this person
and froze their body and then that dumped them in
the woods.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
That's kind of a stretch, but you never know. There's
something up with this dude. All right, let's move on
to your questions and emails. This first one's from Jenna.
I'm an O R nurse and in our small hospital,
we recently had a case of fetal demise at thirty
nine weeks gestation. I just had a question about your
thoughts on having a c section and whether this baby
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would have survived or was likely not to survive anyway.
Mom was thirty nine weeks pregnant with a normal pregnancy,
presented to OBI clinic three times in one week with
a fever and a quote feeling that something is wrong.
The nurses and Obi Juan assessed said baby was okay
and sent mom home twice. On the third time she
presented to the hospital, the baby had no heartbeat. On
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the second presentation, the OBIE nurses communicated to the our
staff of a possible sea section for a patient with
choreo does that Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Mom had to deliver the stillborn and ended up in
ICU with s The doctor who had sent her home
as deflecting any responsibility, and the nurse in me is
wondering if she had made the call to do the section,
would baby be okay or was this infection going.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
To be an issue? Well, first, let's start from the beginning.
Whenever end, listen like, I don't take I've never taken
care of a live person before. So this is just
what I know from working in this field from the
back end of when this happens. Whenever a full term,
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especially full term pregnant person presents with a fever that
should be considered it's considered usually an obstetric emergency, like
because of there's a high probability that it could be
coreo amnitis, which is when there is a bacterial infection
inside of the placenta and it's really, really dangerous for
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both the baby and the mom. So if there's documentation
that she had a fever and went back two different times,
and on that second time, the nurse actually called and
said we might be sending someone over for an emergency
c section, and then let her go home, and then
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when she came back the third time, the baby was dead.
I personally think that that is lawsuit worthy. I don't
know what the outcome would have been, because there are
cases where that happens where it doesn't really matter what
happened that. I mean, the fetus or the baby when
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it's born can have a severe infection, and so could
the mom. And in this case, the mom it did
go into the ICU with I mean, you don't go
into the ICU just for them to watch you. You
have a serious issue. And she had to deliver a stillborn,
which is emotional trauma that you can't ever get back right.
So I think that I think that they were wrong personally, well,
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I don't know what made them say you're fine and
leave if she had a fever, especially two different times.
What happens is that you can get an infection in
the placenta. You can get it two different ways. You
can get it from inside, like if you have an
infection in your body and it goes through your blood.
But the most common way to get it is called
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an ace ending infection, which is when you get it
from bacteria that's in the vagina. So the baby is
in the placenta, is in this sack that keeps it,
the amniotic sack that keeps it protected, but especially during
the end of pregnancy. Well, it could happen at any
time in pregnancy, but that sack could rupture and cause
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a like you know, it eventually ruptures for everyone, right,
because that's how your water breaks. You can get a
really small hole in it, which then exposes the baby
to the outside world in a little bit like and
the the mom might not have realized that there that
the that the membranes have ruptured, because sometimes the hole
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is so small that it come it trickles out. It
could almost be like urine, like you might not even
notice it. And when there's that hole, then the baby
could then get bacteria from the vagina up inside of
the placenta, which can then get the baby sick, and
it could also get the mom sick as well. It
actually happened with Lillian when I had her, she had
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coreo amniitis when she was born, or my placenta did so.
But like it happens, and you see it in the
pathology lab. It happens. I mean, it's natural and that's
no one's fault. But when the mom is going and saying,
I have a favor, and I know she said she
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felt like something was wrong, Like that's not really going
to haul up in a court of all, but like
documentation of a fever, and I see, I don't know
this is because I don't treat these patients. I don't
know if they just say, oh, it's a cold, and
like if they did other tests too, did they do
ultrasound to see if her fluid was coming out or
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her oever? Else? I feel like there's another test they
could do too, to see if your membranes have ruptured.
So if they did the proper procedure, then I guess
there's nothing that could have been done. But I feel
like that I hate I've seen it before and I
just hate seeing that because it just didn't need to happen,
and it's it's such a bummer. So I don't know
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what to tell you. I mean, I know you're a
no arner, so that didn't even have anything to do
with you. But it's like that, it's the same thing
working in pathology. When you hear these cases, it's like
you have no control over it. But I guess I
would say for advice, just to be for I don't
really know. If you're pregnant, I guess, and you really
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feel like something's wrong, like maybe just go to a
completely different hospital and just screw your doctors and get
another opinions. That's all I could say.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
All right, This next one's from Aarin. I know him
a few episodes behind and responding to the story. But
the story of the lady biting into her ham sandwich
and seeing maggots reminded me of this nastiness that I
saw over the summer. We were in Barcelona on our
honeymoon at a five star hotel. We went down for
breakfast and the lunch meat, which was ham and turkey,
was covered in fruitflies. They had this net thing over it,
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and the only fruitfly control was just a waving hand
around to show them away. Now, my husband and I
were appalled, but other people at breakfast were eating it
without a care, perhaps avoiding fruitfly covered meat is a
cultural difference between Americans and Europeans, but here it actually
gets so much worse. We arrived at the hotel late
the night before, so we ordered room service, and yes,
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the room service was turkey Panini's with a puking emotion.
I have no doubt that we unknowingly ate fruitfly turkey
and whatever. These flies were seasoning the turkey with love
your show. Congrats on the pregnancy, Maria, Oh my god,
thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Fruit flies are the worst.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
They're really gross.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
This we memory have a funny fruits fly. I's just
gonna say, so this was. This was before. This is
like when I got pregnant with Lilian and me and
Maria were living at Gabes like Gabe's house, So Gabe
had his own house before we moved in with them,
before we moved in with them. So we moved into
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his house and we were I wasn't Thanksgiving. I feel
like we were like in the kitchen cooking Thanksgiving dinner
and there were like thousands of fruit flies around, and
I was just like, I don't this was. It was
a couple of days after Thanksgiving, Okay, so I I
knew it was around this time of year. So I
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was just like, why are there so many fruit flies around?
Like where are they coming from? This isn't even because
I feel like I feel like flies are like at
least around here. Anyway, they seem to be worse in
the summer because you have like food on the counter
and stuff, and I'm like, I don't even understand what's happening.
Then I finally realized that they were like around the microwave,
like the whole kitchen was clean. Like I just didn't understand.
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So I moved the I moved the microwave back and
there's like a full bunch of bananas back there that
are pitch black, and my first instinct they were mummified,
and my first instinct was to pick them up. So
I pick them up and like you know, by where
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they're all attached, and they all just fell right off
of it because they were so rotten and and like
all of these flies were like coming out of the pile.
And I was like, okay, well that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Well can I just speak to like typical man house
not making sense? Like he had all this counter space
and the microwave like angled in the corner, so there
was that big space behind the microwave and they fell back.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Well, whatever, his house was
pretty nice for a manhouse. It was.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
I just say there was like it wasn't decorated.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yes, there was a lot of questionable choices, but it
wasn't the worst. It was like a semi bachelor pad,
not one hundred percent. It could have been made more homey,
but all right, I just decided to get her for now.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
The last question is do people point out your Philly accents? Yes,
white hoofed.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
All the time, so mine next door neighbor and Nicoles.
She sent me a video. I forgot to send it
to you. You know how, there's like these people that
do like their aunts and uncles and stuff. Yeah, like talking.
I don't know what this particular person was called. I
was just cracking up because I was like, this sounds
like like one of my family members talking. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I would say, your accent's pretty strong South Jersey accent.
There is like differences between like the area we live
Philly proper and then Delco has the worst accent, which
if anas Northeast Philly is worst, and don't Northeast Philly
does have a bad accent too, if you got if
anybody watched that show Task on HBO, it's the Delco
(54:17):
accent times a thousand. Like everybody doesn't sound that thick,
but it's it's influenced by it certainly. And we Ricky,
We're just talking about this the other day because Louis
actually has the worst.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Accent out of all of us.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
And I think because he doesn't talk that you don't
pick it up. But when he does talk, I'm like,
holy shit, he has a super thick South Jersey accent.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
See, I don't even notice because because we all have it. No,
I do know. I noticed it. Yeah, but Ricky has
Delco like the Northeast Philly one. It's because some of
my older cousins like have it. It's just like whenever
I hear someone talking, but I think about, like, are
(54:57):
like my dad's side of the family Christmas, Like, even
if it's not them talking, I'm like, this is what
it sounds like because a lot of them live in
the Northeast.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yes, And something they say in particular up there is
instead of saying almond and salmon, they say almond and salmon.
I know, And I have a lot like eagles. Yeah,
pop Up says eggs. When he says eggs.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Well, he doesn't say anything right. He say anything right.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Some people say wash instead of wash. I feel like
something I have that's a problem, as I say milk,
like milk.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
No, you know what? You know what. Andrea's favorite one was,
she said, my friend Andrea is a PA two. We
used to work together for a couple of years and
she was from Upstate, New York and when she came
here she would make fun of some of the stuff
I said. And one of them, I was like, oh,
we gotta We were doing some project in the lab
(55:54):
and I was like, oh, we gotta go to the
store and get crowns. And she's like yeah, She's like
what and I was like crowns And then she's like
what are you saying? And I was like, crowns the
things you color with. And then she's like, well, what
do you call the thing a king wears on his head?
And I said a crown And then she said say
them both. I said, crown crowned. I feel I feel
(56:17):
like ye. One of my students she was from China
and she, oh, my god, this is the best story ever.
She she says to us, like, so her name, her
last name was uh, I don't want to say her
last name, but it was pronounced jiang right, and then
Jung like that that's how she said it. So then
she said she's getting married. And then I said, what's
(56:39):
your new last name? And it was spelled completely different
with like x'es and seid disease and stuff like that.
I said, oh, how do you say it? And she
says Jung? And I said how do you say your
original last name? And she said Jung And I was like,
it's the same thing, and she's like, no, it's different.
She kept saying it's different. I'm like, no, it's just
sounds the same. So it's the same as mine. Crown
and crown, they sound the same. There's just a.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Lot of words people say here that are just so off,
and I just feel like the general use of melpropisms
is all over the place. Nobody is ever saying the
right word or phrase for anything. It's something very specific
to the Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Area and it's so weird. I love it. Well, we're
used to it, all right, guys. If you haven't noticed,
if you're not watching our YouTube channel, we are wearing
some new merch show off your sweater. Oh yeah, let me.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
So we have listen.
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I'm glad we decided to upgrade on the sweatshirts and
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brand because this is so cozy and I already I
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