March 3, 2026 • 13 mins
We have a friend who was in the military, but turned a new leaf to become a gardener! So we start to wonder... is someone's current job more important than what they used to do?!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, Gandhi and I.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Were having dinner one night and she said, we have
this friend who used to be high, high, high, high
up in the military. Yes, oh yeah, very powerful. General
general is way up there, right.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
It was a master something. I'm gonna get it wrong,
so I don't even want to try there.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The word general general is in his title, I think, so, okay,
Well he's up there. So we talked about how he
is now. He's no longer in the military. Now, his
his biggest ambition every day is to go out and garden.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
He likes he loves flowers, he likes horses, and he
likes coaching kids.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He's a great dude.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So the question is how much do you care about
what someone used to do, So can you.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Tell the whole story? Yeah, okay, So he's married.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
He's married. I was having a conversation with him and
his wife and I asked them how they met. It's
one of my favorite things to ask people. And he
was a coach at a CrossFit Jim and initially she
didn't want to date him because she said, I don't
want to date a CrossFit coach, and he said, do
you have any idea what I used to be? Like,
I'm not just a CrossFit coach. I ascended all the
(01:17):
way to the top of the military, and I retired
at a very young age because I started when I
was eighteen years old. I'm set for the rest of
my life as far as you know, like benefits and
all these different things. But it didn't matter because that's
not what he was doing at the moment. You see
people for what they're doing at the moment, but so
many people did all these other things before whatever they're
doing right now. So how much do we ever think
(01:37):
about that? I don't think.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
People do well.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So we brought it up, you know, selfishly talking about us.
My thing is one day when I'm not doing this,
yeah you know, I mean this is not nearly as
important as a general in the military, but yeah, you
know it's a thing, right, Yes, one day I'll just
be doing something relaxing and normal.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Will it matter what I did before then? Or is
it where I am then that matters? Is that what
the question is?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, I mean that's what we were talking about. You know.
I think that because I had we ended up having
this conversation with other people who were like, no, it's
a really big deal what somebody used to be. And
I said to that person, I understand. And maybe once
you get to know somebody you understand that that's more important.
But at the moment, when you just meet someone, you're
not giving them a rundown of who you used to be.
You're giving them a definition of what you are right now.
(02:26):
And I think that's why it's also really important not
to define people by careers. But I think it's just
a wild thing that you go, especially you know, people
who are in these fields, like the military, police officers, firefighters,
they had this sort of like built in level of
respect for a long time, and if you go long enough,
you just expect that from the world. But the world's
not just going to give you that. They don't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, Like, if you were a heart surgeon at one
time saving lives, right and now you're retired and just
hanging out and gardening, and I meet you and you're like, yo,
what do you do? Well, you know, I spend the
weekends gardening and I relax, and I didn't know, Oh,
you are a heart surgeon in the past. What would
you go out with them.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You're still the same person, but you're you're assuming that
they still are as talented, learning and owning things and
whatever as they were when they did that professional but
now they're just gardening. So your level of respect should
remain the same. Lesson is a question.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I think it shoul remain the same the same.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, I think the absolutely you should respect people regardless.
I'm just saying, I think to people that don't know
all the things you used to do, you can't just
go into a situation expecting that you're going to get
a certain level of respect or admiration without people knowing
what's going on and them just assuming that you did
all these things.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
They have no idea about it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Hey, so when I have a listener on the phone,
I sometimes say, hey, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Maybe I should now ask, well, hey.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
What do you do and what did you used to do?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Explain your peak, give us your entire story? What a boot?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, I don't know, it's it's such an interesting dance.
But again, when then we started talking about maybe happy ending,
because that was sort of the whole point of this play,
which was retired robots, and they didn't know what to
do with themselves when they were no longer in service.
They didn't know how to identify themselves. They didn't know
who they were because that's what they were their whole lives.
But you're so much more than just this one part
of your life.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're lots of parts of your life. What's scary was.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Up when you've had such a massively, highly decorated career
and then you go to something else that's a lesser
decorated career. I feel like your you know, your former
career over kind of overshadows, so it becomes kind of
part of the current conversation. So you can't avoid that
(04:48):
you are Elvis Durant. Even if you're an ice cream
man somewhere in the future and you're serving ice cream
to people, you're still it's us to come up that
you because you've had this massive career as Elvis.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's a part of you, you know, Okay, Well, you
know me, I downplay that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Okay, let's okay, but I can the President of the
United States, Okay, whether you voted for him or not.
The dude out of the office and done with office,
out of the White House is still the president or
he was he served as arguably one of the most
powerful men in the world. Right, So now he's you know,
working on the scream truck selling ice cream.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know what I'm saying. So you look, you walk
up to get your cone, You're like, oh my god,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And you show him or her depending on when that
that that level of respect that someone you had no
clue about in their past, you wouldn't, right, so you
never know someone serving your ice cream to you was
a general in the army or maybe or someone who
he actually served overseas in several theaters of war.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What do you think, Froggy?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
So, I think it always talk about when when people
when we leave this world, what is the footprint you
left behind?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
What did you do?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
But you don't know what you don't know about somebody,
So therefore you want to respect people, give them the
respect that they deserve without knowing what they've done. It
really doesn't change how you should treat somebody when you
don't know anything about them. I think we all start
at a level, like to say, you start at level five.
That level can get higher, the level could get lower
if they show you disrespect. However, I think it's key
(06:28):
to respect people until you have a reason not to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, there you go, so now and you just start
working harder on being disrespected.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Are well, if you're a jackass, I don't care what
you do for a.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Living, Well, okay, what if you're now a priest and
you're saving lives or whatever, and you can say, well,
I gotta tell you I used to be a jackass.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But it can't work that way too, Right if you
went to if you did something bad in your past,
you went to prison and you got out and you've
changed your life, do people still hold you to that?
You would hope not.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So it ends on what you did.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It matters where you are in the world at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Nate, have you thought about this? I'm thinking about it now.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
There's so many different levels to this because, for instance, legacy, right, legacy.
I was out last night and went to this bar
called Terra Blues. Have you been there now? Kind of
a blues bar, and there's blues performers and all of
the walls were just covered with photographs of jazz musicians,
and it just got me to think that that is
(07:27):
a legacy to a certain part. This person is no
longer with us, but they're still being remembered, And how
will I be remembered one day? Will will people even
remember me? And you know, you're on this planet for
a finite period of time, and you know, what are
(07:49):
you making of it? You have so little time to
make an impact on yourself and on other people's lives,
and how are you going to leave this place?
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And we always talk about legacy and how important it is.
The thing is, is you leave your legacy, you cause
that blip in the universe that you cause while you're
here doing whatever it is you do to and then
after you pass away, it slowly fades and then after
a while, no one's gonna know or care unless you
were a supreme being like I started the country. I'm
George Washington. Hey, mother, Efferzi, Oh remember me?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
You know, it's just really it's like a testament to
it not being as important like who you were as
it is who you are. Who you were isn't that
huge of a deal because that's in the past now,
and it doesn't mean it hasn't shaped you. But who
you are now is what everybody sees and what they
interact with. And I think yes, it's I don't even
think it's really about respect. I think it's just about
(08:39):
evolution and leaning into what you are now, not holding
onto as much as what you used to be. Seems
like a way to be miserable is always talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
What you used to be.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
So obviously in the conversation the story about your friend
and his wife, yeah obviously she saw past the Oh yeah,
he's a CrossFit trainer and I wanted more from that
in my husband.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And now they're fun.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, oh absolutely, And he's not a miserable person at all.
I just thought it was really interesting that he's like, Wow,
that's what you see? Is what's here right now? You
have no idea what I did before?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He get Jamie here. Let's see what she's all about
right here? Hi, Jamie? How are you? Jamie?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
There?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
You know? Hi?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
How's everything in beautiful sunny West Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
It's beautiful today.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I think I wish we were there, all right. So
you work in transitional housing. Describe how that can fit
into this conversation.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
So this is actually, this is really close to my heart.
I work with clients that are chronically homeless, and so
we see these people on the street, and we assume
that they are addicted to drugs, to reassume that they
have meant to illness, to reassume, like, we just assume
all sorts of things. And I have a client that
we brought in. She's an older lady and she they
(09:54):
they were assuming because she wasn't talking and she was
very dirty, and they had assumed that she was chronically,
I just started talking. I'm a counselor, and it turns
out she's a published author with an award winning book.
So we just we don't know, we don't we don't
know what people have experienced, We don't know what their
story is. And I just think this is so important
to treat everybody. You just never know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You just never know. Absolutely. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
When I meet people, I typically just think they're I
assume they're all good, they're all great, and I treat
them with respect.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Don't exactly until you otherwise.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Actually it's after I know you for a while, Nate.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Every everyone's everyone starts out at that same level of greatness,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But what's that scary? What if I was a porn
star in my former career, I'd like you more. I
would go, I would go home and do some searching
on my on my computer.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
But now you know, I'm just uh, you know, just
the cashier at a supermarket.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, you were able to just isolate that and look
at me.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Tell you what, when I'm in the supermarket and I'm
at the cashier, stand that cashier is the most important,
the most important person in my life at that moment.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And if you were a porn star, he probably noticed
other things and go, hey, you see that cashier, he's
packing there.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You go, so, Jamie, Jamie, So you have firsthand experience
every day working in transitional housing to see how exactly.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Well, not only that I am five years in recovery,
I am a so if you look at me right now,
I'm I'm a counsel, I'm a mental health professional. But
five years ago I was a drug addict in court.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So we just we never know, Okay, see, we never
knew about that about you. But when you just admitted
to us that you were a recovering abuser, right and
now you're doing what you're doing to help people exactly
now you see on my on my fund meter you
have gone up?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Does it make sense? It may not be fun much?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
No, No, I like you more so you So getting
to know people is so vitally important. Judging judging people
by judging the book by its cover is wrong. Is
that where we're going with this?
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Absolutely, all right, thank you for listening to us.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Jamie, Thank you so much, Love you guys so much,
love you more.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So we were talking the other day, like, well, we
brought this up on the air the other day. It
didn't really it didn't have traction. Do you think this
has traction?
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Now?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, so, what what can you add to it from
your mind and your perspective?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I mean, I think we've all gone in different directions
with sort of what we initially started talking about, and
I see all of the points I don't think when
I brought it up initially, it wasn't about respect. It
wasn't about not respecting people because you don't know.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
What they do.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They bring it back to where you want to se
it was really just.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
About the evolution of a human being, and that the
past is important but you don't see it. The present
is important. You don't see it. You're living in this
moment right now, in the present, and that's very important,
and it's important to focus on those things and look
at somebody for what they are and at some point,
great you get to know more about them and you
see the layers. But when you look at someone in
this moment right now, what is there and how much
(13:03):
are you willing to dig deeper? That was kind of
more where I was I was going with it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That makes sense. Yeah, okay, But of course we should
all respect everybody regardless, well, well if we can, if
they get this opportunity to respect them right until they
prove otherwise.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right anyway, So as you've gotten too the day, think
about that, think about all of the above. See someone
walking on the street, actually look in the look at
them in the face, and start thinking about all the
great things that person may have brought to this world.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And you'll never know about them. We must assume that
about everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I feel like it's the same thing when someone's
having a bad day or you don't know if they're
having a bad day, if someone treats you like nasty
or like, you know, maybe says something they shouldn't have said.
Sometimes I try to say to myself Okay, just think
about it. Maybe they had a bad day, maybe something
just happened. Maybe you don't know. You don't know where
they're coming from, so give them the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Kind of like the same I write them off immediately
d
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, Gandhi and I.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Were having dinner one night and she said, we have
this friend who used to be high, high, high, high
up in the military. Yes, oh yeah, very powerful. General
general is way up there, right.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
It was a master something. I'm gonna get it wrong,
so I don't even want to try there.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The word general general is in his title, I think, so, okay,
Well he's up there. So we talked about how he
is now. He's no longer in the military. Now, his
his biggest ambition every day is to go out and garden.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
He likes he loves flowers, he likes horses, and he
likes coaching kids.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He's a great dude.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So the question is how much do you care about
what someone used to do, So can you.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Tell the whole story? Yeah, okay, So he's married.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
He's married. I was having a conversation with him and
his wife and I asked them how they met. It's
one of my favorite things to ask people. And he
was a coach at a CrossFit Jim and initially she
didn't want to date him because she said, I don't
want to date a CrossFit coach, and he said, do
you have any idea what I used to be? Like,
I'm not just a CrossFit coach. I ascended all the
(01:17):
way to the top of the military, and I retired
at a very young age because I started when I
was eighteen years old. I'm set for the rest of
my life as far as you know, like benefits and
all these different things. But it didn't matter because that's
not what he was doing at the moment. You see
people for what they're doing at the moment, but so
many people did all these other things before whatever they're
doing right now. So how much do we ever think
(01:37):
about that? I don't think.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
People do well.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So we brought it up, you know, selfishly talking about us.
My thing is one day when I'm not doing this,
yeah you know, I mean this is not nearly as
important as a general in the military, but yeah, you
know it's a thing, right, Yes, one day I'll just
be doing something relaxing and normal.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Will it matter what I did before then? Or is
it where I am then that matters? Is that what
the question is?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, I mean that's what we were talking about. You know.
I think that because I had we ended up having
this conversation with other people who were like, no, it's
a really big deal what somebody used to be. And
I said to that person, I understand. And maybe once
you get to know somebody you understand that that's more important.
But at the moment, when you just meet someone, you're
not giving them a rundown of who you used to be.
You're giving them a definition of what you are right now.
(02:26):
And I think that's why it's also really important not
to define people by careers. But I think it's just
a wild thing that you go, especially you know, people
who are in these fields, like the military, police officers, firefighters,
they had this sort of like built in level of
respect for a long time, and if you go long enough,
you just expect that from the world. But the world's
not just going to give you that. They don't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, Like, if you were a heart surgeon at one
time saving lives, right and now you're retired and just
hanging out and gardening, and I meet you and you're like, yo,
what do you do? Well, you know, I spend the
weekends gardening and I relax, and I didn't know, Oh,
you are a heart surgeon in the past. What would
you go out with them.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You're still the same person, but you're you're assuming that
they still are as talented, learning and owning things and
whatever as they were when they did that professional but
now they're just gardening. So your level of respect should
remain the same. Lesson is a question.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I think it shoul remain the same the same.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, I think the absolutely you should respect people regardless.
I'm just saying, I think to people that don't know
all the things you used to do, you can't just
go into a situation expecting that you're going to get
a certain level of respect or admiration without people knowing
what's going on and them just assuming that you did
all these things.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
They have no idea about it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Hey, so when I have a listener on the phone,
I sometimes say, hey, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Maybe I should now ask, well, hey.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
What do you do and what did you used to do?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Explain your peak, give us your entire story? What a boot?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, I don't know, it's it's such an interesting dance.
But again, when then we started talking about maybe happy ending,
because that was sort of the whole point of this play,
which was retired robots, and they didn't know what to
do with themselves when they were no longer in service.
They didn't know how to identify themselves. They didn't know
who they were because that's what they were their whole lives.
But you're so much more than just this one part
of your life.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're lots of parts of your life. What's scary was.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Up when you've had such a massively, highly decorated career
and then you go to something else that's a lesser
decorated career. I feel like your you know, your former
career over kind of overshadows, so it becomes kind of
part of the current conversation. So you can't avoid that
(04:48):
you are Elvis Durant. Even if you're an ice cream
man somewhere in the future and you're serving ice cream
to people, you're still it's us to come up that
you because you've had this massive career as Elvis.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's a part of you, you know, Okay, Well, you
know me, I downplay that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Okay, let's okay, but I can the President of the
United States, Okay, whether you voted for him or not.
The dude out of the office and done with office,
out of the White House is still the president or
he was he served as arguably one of the most
powerful men in the world. Right, So now he's you know,
working on the scream truck selling ice cream.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know what I'm saying. So you look, you walk
up to get your cone, You're like, oh my god,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And you show him or her depending on when that
that that level of respect that someone you had no
clue about in their past, you wouldn't, right, so you
never know someone serving your ice cream to you was
a general in the army or maybe or someone who
he actually served overseas in several theaters of war.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What do you think, Froggy?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
So, I think it always talk about when when people
when we leave this world, what is the footprint you
left behind?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
What did you do?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
But you don't know what you don't know about somebody,
So therefore you want to respect people, give them the
respect that they deserve without knowing what they've done. It
really doesn't change how you should treat somebody when you
don't know anything about them. I think we all start
at a level, like to say, you start at level five.
That level can get higher, the level could get lower
if they show you disrespect. However, I think it's key
(06:28):
to respect people until you have a reason not to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, there you go, so now and you just start
working harder on being disrespected.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Are well, if you're a jackass, I don't care what
you do for a.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Living, Well, okay, what if you're now a priest and
you're saving lives or whatever, and you can say, well,
I gotta tell you I used to be a jackass.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But it can't work that way too, Right if you
went to if you did something bad in your past,
you went to prison and you got out and you've
changed your life, do people still hold you to that?
You would hope not.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So it ends on what you did.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It matters where you are in the world at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Nate, have you thought about this? I'm thinking about it now.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
There's so many different levels to this because, for instance, legacy, right, legacy.
I was out last night and went to this bar
called Terra Blues. Have you been there now? Kind of
a blues bar, and there's blues performers and all of
the walls were just covered with photographs of jazz musicians,
and it just got me to think that that is
(07:27):
a legacy to a certain part. This person is no
longer with us, but they're still being remembered, And how
will I be remembered one day? Will will people even
remember me? And you know, you're on this planet for
a finite period of time, and you know, what are
(07:49):
you making of it? You have so little time to
make an impact on yourself and on other people's lives,
and how are you going to leave this place?
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And we always talk about legacy and how important it is.
The thing is, is you leave your legacy, you cause
that blip in the universe that you cause while you're
here doing whatever it is you do to and then
after you pass away, it slowly fades and then after
a while, no one's gonna know or care unless you
were a supreme being like I started the country. I'm
George Washington. Hey, mother, Efferzi, Oh remember me?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
You know, it's just really it's like a testament to
it not being as important like who you were as
it is who you are. Who you were isn't that
huge of a deal because that's in the past now,
and it doesn't mean it hasn't shaped you. But who
you are now is what everybody sees and what they
interact with. And I think yes, it's I don't even
think it's really about respect. I think it's just about
(08:39):
evolution and leaning into what you are now, not holding
onto as much as what you used to be. Seems
like a way to be miserable is always talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
What you used to be.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
So obviously in the conversation the story about your friend
and his wife, yeah obviously she saw past the Oh yeah,
he's a CrossFit trainer and I wanted more from that
in my husband.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And now they're fun.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, oh absolutely, And he's not a miserable person at all.
I just thought it was really interesting that he's like, Wow,
that's what you see? Is what's here right now? You
have no idea what I did before?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He get Jamie here. Let's see what she's all about
right here? Hi, Jamie? How are you? Jamie?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
There?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
You know? Hi?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
How's everything in beautiful sunny West Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
It's beautiful today.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I think I wish we were there, all right. So
you work in transitional housing. Describe how that can fit
into this conversation.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
So this is actually, this is really close to my heart.
I work with clients that are chronically homeless, and so
we see these people on the street, and we assume
that they are addicted to drugs, to reassume that they
have meant to illness, to reassume, like, we just assume
all sorts of things. And I have a client that
we brought in. She's an older lady and she they
(09:54):
they were assuming because she wasn't talking and she was
very dirty, and they had assumed that she was chronically,
I just started talking. I'm a counselor, and it turns
out she's a published author with an award winning book.
So we just we don't know, we don't we don't
know what people have experienced, We don't know what their
story is. And I just think this is so important
to treat everybody. You just never know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You just never know. Absolutely. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
When I meet people, I typically just think they're I
assume they're all good, they're all great, and I treat
them with respect.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Don't exactly until you otherwise.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Actually it's after I know you for a while, Nate.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Every everyone's everyone starts out at that same level of greatness,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But what's that scary? What if I was a porn
star in my former career, I'd like you more. I
would go, I would go home and do some searching
on my on my computer.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
But now you know, I'm just uh, you know, just
the cashier at a supermarket.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, you were able to just isolate that and look
at me.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Tell you what, when I'm in the supermarket and I'm
at the cashier, stand that cashier is the most important,
the most important person in my life at that moment.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And if you were a porn star, he probably noticed
other things and go, hey, you see that cashier, he's
packing there.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You go, so, Jamie, Jamie, So you have firsthand experience
every day working in transitional housing to see how exactly.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Well, not only that I am five years in recovery,
I am a so if you look at me right now,
I'm I'm a counsel, I'm a mental health professional. But
five years ago I was a drug addict in court.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So we just we never know, Okay, see, we never
knew about that about you. But when you just admitted
to us that you were a recovering abuser, right and
now you're doing what you're doing to help people exactly
now you see on my on my fund meter you
have gone up?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Does it make sense? It may not be fun much?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
No, No, I like you more so you So getting
to know people is so vitally important. Judging judging people
by judging the book by its cover is wrong. Is
that where we're going with this?
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Absolutely, all right, thank you for listening to us.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Jamie, Thank you so much, Love you guys so much,
love you more.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So we were talking the other day, like, well, we
brought this up on the air the other day. It
didn't really it didn't have traction. Do you think this
has traction?
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Now?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, so, what what can you add to it from
your mind and your perspective?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I mean, I think we've all gone in different directions
with sort of what we initially started talking about, and
I see all of the points I don't think when
I brought it up initially, it wasn't about respect. It
wasn't about not respecting people because you don't know.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
What they do.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They bring it back to where you want to se
it was really just.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
About the evolution of a human being, and that the
past is important but you don't see it. The present
is important. You don't see it. You're living in this
moment right now, in the present, and that's very important,
and it's important to focus on those things and look
at somebody for what they are and at some point,
great you get to know more about them and you
see the layers. But when you look at someone in
this moment right now, what is there and how much
(13:03):
are you willing to dig deeper? That was kind of
more where I was I was going with it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That makes sense. Yeah, okay, But of course we should
all respect everybody regardless, well, well if we can, if
they get this opportunity to respect them right until they
prove otherwise.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right anyway, So as you've gotten too the day, think
about that, think about all of the above. See someone
walking on the street, actually look in the look at
them in the face, and start thinking about all the
great things that person may have brought to this world.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And you'll never know about them. We must assume that
about everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I feel like it's the same thing when someone's
having a bad day or you don't know if they're
having a bad day, if someone treats you like nasty
or like, you know, maybe says something they shouldn't have said.
Sometimes I try to say to myself Okay, just think
about it. Maybe they had a bad day, maybe something
just happened. Maybe you don't know. You don't know where
they're coming from, so give them the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Kind of like the same I write them off immediately
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