September 1, 2026 • 59 mins
On today’s MKD, we start the week off discussing Meta's teen addiction lawsuit settlement, AI vaginas, Pheromone Maxxing, anal douche treatments, and sex huts for the homeless.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hi everyone, welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about the recent lawsuit and settlement
with Meta, including Instagram and Facebook. Then we're going to
get into some wild sex stories. First, we'll start off
with a realistic sex doll and AI vagina. So apparently
they're a thing now. Then we'll talk about a new
(00:43):
anal douche that's on the market. The latest maxing trend.
This time it's called stink maxing. Then a proposal for
sex huts for homeless people in Los Angeles. We'll finish
up with your comments, questions, and emails, all that and
more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Ridiculous as usual.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Every story.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes. First, Meta's teen addiction lawsuit has come to an
end with them agreeing to pay $ 18 billion and make
major changes to both Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And I said this to.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You the other day too, like, then they put out
a call to action to YouTube and TikTok to also
make changes. It just really, to me, it read like,
we got in trouble with daddy. So now you need
to get in trouble too. That's just how I read it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And all, you know, all those call to action posts.
Cause I've seen them like four different times in my feed.
There's no comments.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
They turn the comments off.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And you're just like, why? Cause you're like, everybody's going
to call you guys little bitches. Like they're there. Well,
do you know that there's also a cash incentive for them?
Like a hot, it's a lot. It's like they could get,
basically like five billion dollars off of the fine if
they're able to get other people to join in on
it that is ridiculous but and and for me i'm
(02:01):
just like the only reason they put out that call
to action was because the teenagers will then want to
go to those other platforms where they're allowed to be
on it all night they don't give a shit about
your kids they don't give a shit about any of
us they're just kind of like well, we should all
have the same rules across, which, I mean, technically they should.
(02:24):
Because if Facebook's getting in trouble for it, it's like
every other platform's kind of the same exact way too,
isn't it? No, like I agree.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They all should be making the changes, but it's like, oh,
you're only putting the call to action out because you
got in trouble because you've had whistleblowers coming forward, exposing
that you were turning a blind eye, fully knowing these
issues were going on. But because it would hurt you.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Financially to have to make all these changes, why would
you do that? If you just pretend like it's not happening.
But why isn't Congress pulling in the other companies and
seeing what they're doing too? That's what's weird. Why does
it have to be like, I'm sorry, but if I
own YouTube or TikTok and the majority of the... people
(03:12):
that are looking at my platform are teenagers for a
long period of time a day. I'm not just going
to put these things into place to lose money because
I'm a nice person. Just like Facebook and Instagram wouldn't
have done it either. They just did it because they
were forced to.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean, I don't really know why they weren't
wrapped into this lawsuit. Maybe they are all going to
get sued separately at having a higher chance of winning.
I really don't know the reasoning behind that, but This
article did talk about that all of these companies are
facing thousands of lawsuits. I mean, we just talked about
that one where that girl sued them, alleging that she
formed an addiction from being on these platforms and they
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all settled with her.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
She got millions of dollars, remember? Which is interesting because
I guess every single one of us, for the most part,
especially people like me who use it for, like I
use it for business, right? And mine's unusual because we
had like, For example, one of our friends that used
to sell jewelry, she had an Instagram account and was
(04:16):
able to sell her jewelry through there. So her main
business wasn't Instagram, but that's how she was getting business.
And she was killing it for a couple years. And
then all of a sudden, when they introduced the algorithm
and stuff, her account just went completely dead, essentially. And
she had a lot of followers, like a couple hundred
thousand followers. And nobody was seeing her stuff anymore anymore.
(04:38):
And her business actually kind of went under and she
had to get rid of it and she had to
start something new. And I'm sure just talking right now,
there's probably hundreds of you listening right now that have
a similar experience. Mine's a little bit different because my
whole thing kind of started on Instagram. But I still
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see the change of what it was 13 or 14
years ago when I actually started on the platform and
how you know, and, and my husband always says the
best thing. He's like, they're, they're literally drug dealers. Like
they give you this thing for free and they get
you hooked and then they, they could do whatever they
want with you because they know that you're hooked kind of. And, um,
(05:24):
it's not even like with the, With the younger kids,
it's because of the like an addiction thing. But with
adults and stuff, it's if you think about every single business,
your landscaping business, just like random stuff, like everyone is
relying on these platforms to get customers and to communicate
with their customers. So when you take that away, it
(05:46):
does psychologically affect people.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, they don't give a shit because business-wise it's working
out for them. I mean, financially, they're killing it because
they introduced this new algorithm and then you have to pay, right?
You have to pay to push your post to your
own audience, which is ridiculous. And then they allege to
other people too, which they're not seeing your stuff at all.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And people are clearly paying.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, every time I see their quarterly numbers come out,
it's higher and higher and higher. Like they're making more
money than ever. So why do they care about the
psychological damage being done to everybody?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think he sees it as like, how dare you
make money off my platform for free? How dare you
do that? Think about all the influencers.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Who are making a ton of money and everything. I
personally am not going to pay a dollar for that.
But if they said to you, even if they said
to you, I have 1.5 million followers, right? If they
said to you, okay, pay $ 5, 000 a month and all
(06:49):
your followers could see stuff. I feel like every single
person would do that. It's more of the way that
it is. It's almost like gambling to me and I
don't gamble. They just say like, oh, if you pay
this extra money a post, then you'll be able to
show 100 more people or 100,000 more people depending on
what you pay. But it always is like up to
(07:11):
100,000 more people will see it. There's no guarantee that
you never really see a return on it necessarily. You know,
I did try it one time and I was like,
I feel like I'm sticking a $ 20 bill in a
slot machine right now and praying that something comes out.
And I do think that they could actually keep doing
what they're doing and make even more money if it
(07:33):
was more just like, this is what you pay and
this is what you get kind of a thing. Um,
And I know they started charging too for like other stuff, right? Like,
because now you could get a badge if you pay
for it every month. You get the badge and there's
levels of it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Like there's like just getting the badge and then there's
having actual access to customer service, which I don't know
how you're able to run a business like this and
people can't have access to customer service.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And I feel like They've done a really good job
at keeping this lawsuit and many others under wraps, but
I guess it's because they're controlling what we're seeing and
these are the primary platforms we're on. So basically, if
you have no idea what we're talking about, 29 states
sued Meta, alleging they were harming children. They were seeking
$ 1. 36 trillion payment. They said they were deliberately designing addictive
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products that hooked young people leading to mental health issues,
including anxiety, depression, and suicide. And they claim they regularly
collected data on children under the age of 13 without
parental permission in violation of federal and state laws. So
last week, this was going to a jury trial and
then they settled for the $ 18 billion, which that is
so much money, but a fraction.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Of $ 1. 36 trillion. Well, because, which makes me think that
they knew they were going to lose.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, and the question too is like, What happens if
this did go through the full blown trial and they
lost and had that judgment? Like, is this company just
going away? What happens to us as society if all
of a sudden the main connection between us and the world,
which is Instagram and Facebook, suddenly disappears? because they lost
this lawsuit. It's just very interesting to analyze.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, but I just think that that would never happen
because there would still be X and there would still
be TikTok and there would still be Snapchat. Like people
would just move over to whatever was open.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Or somebody would buy them out of their debt and
then hopefully change it and run it a better way.
I cannot stand Mark Zuckerberg. And I can't, there's actually,
I believe, a movie coming out. What's today, September? Oh
my God, I can't even believe it's September. This is ridiculous. Anyway,
I believe there's a movie coming out this month about
the whistleblowers that work that meta.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I'm interested. And, you know, we we have talked
about this on the show so many times about just
how bad. I mean, I'm still going strong that my
kids aren't going to have social media and everything. especially
my 13-year-old is laying it on thick all the time.
And I'm just like, no, no, no. Just because of,
(10:09):
especially with girls, how bad it is. And it's not just...
I don't really care about them looking at YouTube videos
and stuff. It's like, whatever. I mean, like, they're just
getting stupid ideas and influence from other people, but that's whatever.
It's more of them, you know, and one of the
things on here is they're not allowed to have these, like,
(10:31):
plastic surgery filters. Yeah. Which is awesome because they're so
terrible for children.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
These are the changes they're implementing. So it's including time limits,
stopping notifications during school. a block on the app during
critical overnight hours, and bans on plastic surgery filters and more.
So how long do they have to implement these?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
When are we going to see them? They said soon.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Are they going to follow up with studies every year
to prove that these are enough?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well, the state of New Jersey, they just put in
a law that kids aren't allowed to have their phones
at school. And I don't know how that goes with
private and public schools, but... I know the public schools
in our area have to go by it and they're
not supposed to have their phones even like off in
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their pocket or their ringer off. They're not even supposed
to have it on their bodies. And a lot of
parents are mad about it, obviously, because of school shootings.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, that's why I don't really like that, because I
feel like more than ever now. But I obviously understand
the distraction during class.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, like, listen, I just feel like it's really simple.
When I was a kid, a teenager in the 90s, right,
the big thing was, like, to have a pager or
a beeper, right? Which is so corny. But, like, we
all had one because it was, like, oh, cool. And
there was, like, a stand at the mall that you
could get, like, a cool teal cover for it. So
it's the coolest thing ever, right? And when we were
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in school, our teachers were straight up, like, if I
hear that thing vibrate or I hear that thing ring,
I'm going to take it and I'm putting it in
my desk and you will get it back on the
last day of school. And we were all petrified of
that happening because we couldn't get our parents to call
and be like, they have to have it. But there
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was no, it was going in your teacher's desk drawer
until the last day of school. And if they just
kept that rule, right? Because like, One of our friends
a couple years ago, she's since graduated high school. She
had called one of her children was in school with
the cell phone. Right. And she called her mom during
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class on FaceTime while and like our friend heard them,
the teacher teaching in the background. And then this group
of kids are in the back of the classroom, like
talking and FaceTiming with the mom and everything. And I'm
just like, how have we gotten here that that's just okay?
I don't really think that they need to ban phones
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in school. They just need to implement rules that they
stick by and just say, we're taking it away if
we hear the ringer, if we see you texting, if
you're on it. If you want to say the only
emergency is there's a school shooting and I need to
call home, then there's absolutely no reason that a child
needs to be on it in class during school. Like
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class time. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Like we had cell phones when I was in high
school and they were just really strict about it. I mean,
it would get taken away if you were caught on it.
You would get detention, but you were allowed to have
it on your person. But even if I remember certain classes,
like even if it just rang, you would get it
taken away. Even if it was like an innocent mistake
and you left it on.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You should. But it's just like a really simple solution.
But then they're so scared of getting sued about stuff
and this, that and the other. And and like that's
really what the root of the problem is, in my opinion.
So now it's like this blanket.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Children used to get beat in schools like they can relax,
like just taking away somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
My dad really has like he he really is like
an anybody that's like 80 years old right now has
lived through the craziest time period. I mean, I remember
recently I was talking to my dad. And he says,
you know, he grew up in Philadelphia, in South Philadelphia.
He remembers, like, a horse and carriage coming down the
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street to deliver ice and milk to his house, okay?
And now in his same lifetime, and of course the nuns,
he went to Newman High School, but he went to,
you know, he went to Catholic school. The nuns used
to beat the shit out of them with a ruler
and stuff, right? And he said that if he went
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home and told his parents that the nuns beat him up,
he would get in even more trouble because it was
so embarrassing to their family. And now it's like he's
still alive and gets to live in this generation where
it's just completely reversed. Like the kids are running the show.
It's just like, I don't even understand how old people
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are like sitting back and just like watching this happen
right now. I don't either. I really don't. It's crazy. And, like, obviously,
I don't want my child to get beat by a
teacher at school. But I also don't want my child
to have no rules at school. Like, why are we
so extreme with it has to be, like, this way
or the other?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We're losing structure in society as a whole, and I
think that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, it started when people started wearing their pajamas to
the airport. Let's face it. It's not even the airport.
It's everywhere. The mall. Like, there is absolutely no reason
that you're ever in public wearing pajama pants or slippers. Like,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, I think you're in the minority thinking that way.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't care. You could say whatever. It's really just
not that hard to put on a pair of jeans. Like,
I'm wearing jeans right now, and you can't tell that
I'm wearing jeans because you only could see me from
the chest up. I could be wearing, you know, pajama
pants that have Tweety Bird all over them, right? But like,
it's just they're just not that uncomfortable. It's just not
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that hard to wake up every day. It takes me
two seconds to put on like I'm not wearing a
suit and tie, but just to put on like something
presentable is just not that hard.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just think we need to reintroduce structure back into society.
Like I'm seeing it with a lot of parenting videos
to letting your child just like completely control your life.
And I'm like, yeah, no, good, good try.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
They're going to be real fun when they get older.
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So this next story is kind of an extension of
a story we covered about when that sex doll was
found in a suitcase in Australia and they were investigating it.
And even though they were able to determine it was
fake right away, they still needed to make sure it
wasn't going to be connected to some other crime. So
This article is talking about the sex doll market, basically,
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and saying that in 2026, an analysis of the market
was valued at $ 6. 6 billion in 2025, with a projection
that it will more than double to $ 13. 4 billion by 2033.
This is just sex doll markets. So that was the
2026 analysis of last year and where they predict it's
going to go in the next decade. So then they
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start talking about, in 2017... how this brand called ReDoll
introduces AI-generated doll named Harmony, and Harmony even has an
AI vagina, which is an electronic insert that pairs via
Bluetooth to the X-Mode app. It detects touch, movement, and speed,
transitioning naturally from mild arousal to climax, and synchronized vocal
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responses that make every moment feel real. What are your
thoughts on this?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, this So this is interesting. I listened to an
interview last week about just the state of teenage boys
right now, right? And just all of these things that
are things like this that are there and that... that
in turn affects, you know, teenage girls as well, because of,
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you know, that's the age where you start dating and
having relationships. And there's all of these studies done that
people aren't dating. People aren't getting married. People aren't having babies,
like things like that, which is kind of a huge problem.
If you want art, you know, species to continue to exist.
So some of the problems that are associated with these
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teen boys are like, you know, they're interviewing all these
teen boys and they're saying, why aren't you dating and stuff?
And they have AI girlfriends. Like they have their ideal
dream woman as an AI character that checks in on
them and isn't like a nag, like a real girlfriend
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would be, right? And then- what they're able to do
is if they see any girl that they think is hot,
they could just take her picture and like upload it
into a program and then all of a sudden turn
her into porn, right? So you could have sex with, well,
you could have sex with yourself, but you could be
looking at the girl of your dreams naked in all
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different kinds of positions because as of right now, there's
no rules about just uploading anyone's picture into one of
these programs. So, The next step with that is now
you can get these dolls. Now you can get these
dolls to be customized to look like a person. So
we actually had a story this week, yesterday, on, well, yeah,
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Lamar Odom, he is Khloe Kardashian's ex-husband, has a sex
doll that looks like her. But yesterday we had a
story in Monday's Morbid Minute about a guy who was
stalking some woman who, for 13 years, 13 years. And
when they went into his house, they found a bunch
of weird shit. Like he had like a piece of
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John Wayne Gacy's brain. Apparently, I don't know. It was
labeled that and like skulls and like some kind of
oddity collection. But he also had a sex doll that
looked like the woman he was stalking. Okay. And like,
it's just like, it's just too weird. And you have
to say like, all right, well, when is this going
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to be a crossover? Because we were talking a couple
years ago about... Remember there was that... I don't know
if she was like a congressperson or something, but she
was trying to say that pedophiles should have child sex
dolls instead of... Because it would make them not want
to prey on children.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, and we argued that the very opposite effect was
going to happen. It's going to make them escalate.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Exactly. So it's like now... You're having these sex dolls
and people are... This is so bizarre to say this,
but people that have them, some of them are mistreating
the sex dolls. So they're putting fake bruises and stuff
on them. That was the case in Australia. We were like,
why are there fake bruises on this doll? Which made
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it seem even more realistic. Yeah, so it's like if
someone has... And like in this case that we talked
about yesterday, that this person is stalking a woman for
13 years and then gets a sex doll made to
look like her. It's just like he's committing a crime
right there. I mean, even if he wasn't stalked, let's
pretend he wasn't even stalking her. And maybe he just
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had like an obsession from afar over her, but he
wasn't really doing anything to scare her or anything. It's
still creepy that that happens.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, that's a total violation if somebody is even using
AI-generated porn of yourself or going to extremes and paying
thousands of dollars to get a custom sex doll to
look like you.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That is such a violation. But the thing is, is
that to the defense of the AI porn people, there's
no regulations right now, and... You know, there's always people
looking to go into business and there's no regulations. And
it's a huge multi-million, billion-dollar industry. So, like, why not
have it? I mean, like, they don't have any morals.
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They don't care. But I just can't think of a
world where any picture... Because every picture is a person
that you're uploading, right? It belongs to somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And they say... you know, there are laws against doing
the child porn, you know, to upload that into one
of these things. But when you upload, let's say you
upload a picture of a 16 or a 17 year old,
how does the technology know that it's technically legally a minor,
but it's, you know, the kid looks like an adult,
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but it's not really an adult. And then you have
guys that like teachers that have students in 10th grade
that are they're attracted to and now they're uploading them
in ai porn you know like.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well i i don't think it can and this is
becoming a serious problem i don't even think we talked
about this on here we talked about on youtube where
these they're they're these like nudify apps where you could
literally upload a picture of somebody and like select the
area of clothing you want removed and it does that.
And it even makes videos of them like flashing their
boobs or their genitals or whatever. Like this company, I
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don't even remember who did the video about it. Some
news company did an investigation on it and they uploaded
AI generated images of people and then did it. And
it so easily removed their clothes or made videos of
them doing scandalous things. And it's so disturbing to think
that that picture could just be you. So I guess like, yeah,
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When you escalate from even just going to the app
to the sex doll, I mean, these dolls are thousands
of dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
They're not cheap.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But there's a company in particular called Coeros. It's C-O-E-R-O-S.
So they are an online sex doll accessory brand based
out of L.A. They offer the customized sex doll heads,
which are about $ 1, 800. just for the head, and they said,
according to the website, they're able to model each head
on photos of a real person, an original character, or
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an AI-generated image, and then customers are able to upload
their own reference photos to a submission form on the
site when.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Ordering the textile.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So, they're saying they don't condone people using them for
non-consensual purposes or for harassment, but, like, how do you
know if that's what's happening? How often is it It
just doesn't seem like they're making, like, the woman... Because
let's be honest, how many male sex dolls are being made? So, like,
it's not like they're making the woman sign a consent
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form saying she agrees to use her photograph for this purpose.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Like, how did Lamar get that one made of Chloe?
What woman is actually doing that? Like, if my husband's
going to go buy a sex doll, he's going to
get one that looks like me. Like, okay. Like, who
agrees to this anyway? Think about that. Like, nobody's like, oh, honey...
go get this sex doll to look like me. I
think it'll be awesome. There's no one agreeing to it.
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No woman is saying, yeah, that's okay. Nobody is. So
because in a relation, like why would anybody that you're
in a relationship with get a sex doll that looks
like you if they could just have sex with you? Like,
and the other person like, what is one of your
friends going to come up to you and be like,
do you mind if I get a sex doll that
looks like you? It's just, no one's giving permission for that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And you shouldn't be able to get a celebrity just
because they're a public figure. Cause that's very violating in
and of itself. I just, I don't see who this
market is for. Apparently this is, I mean, we just
read the numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's a huge market. They're making billions of dollars. What
do you mean? You don't see who the market's for.
It's for everyone. It's just like, it's like, Obviously, that's
a benefit. Do you want to have sex with the
blow-up doll that looks like that? Or do you want
to have sex with somebody that looks like a real
person that looks like some hot movie star Jennifer Aniston
person that you've been fantasizing about your whole life? That's
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who the market's for. It's for every dude that's into
that stuff. It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Especially if they can have AI vaginas that can mimic
how real vaginas are going to feel.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
This is ridiculous. This is what the problem is, though,
because now it's just... you know, men used to have
to kind of work a little bit hard to get
a woman. And now it's like, they don't want to
deal with it. If you could come home and have
a computer talking to you and knows everything that you like,
talks to you really nice every day, doesn't pick fights
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with you, doesn't tell you you're looking at other girls,
stuff like that. You don't have to get up and
get dressed and go out to dinner. And you could
have sex with this thing that's like kind of It's
not the real thing, but it's like close enough and
you're getting off. Like, what's the point of trying to
find a real relationship? And then once you're doing that
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and you have that kind of dopamine going on, how
are you ever going to go back down to reality?
It's just like, and it's the same thing with the
exposure of all the porn too. Like the, the, the,
the young teenage boys are just getting so overstimulated with
it and, and like a not real situation that they're
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actually having like erectile dysfunction when they're trying to have
sex with a woman. It's like, it's really bad. Cause
it's cause the reality is altered so much.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Well, I hate to call out my romance reader community too,
but I'm seeing a problem in the smut reading community
as well, because like a lot of these books are like,
written by women about ideal sex partners and like men
knowing what they're doing so well. And I think just
it's setting a very unrealistic expectation for women that are dating,
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thinking that that's how it's going to go. And like,
I even see it when I go to book club meetings,
the way people are talking about stuff. Sometimes I see
it on online communities where people are talking about certain books.
Like it's just setting up very unrealistic expectations. and i
guess the big i i don't think that that's anything
new no it's not but i'm saying like just the
excessive like push for it right now like romance books
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have been around forever but there's been a resurgence with
millennials like they've rebranded them to have cute pink And
vibrant neon colors. So it looks cute in your house.
And everything like that. But it's like essentially the same content.
And it's the same as this. Like it's the overexposure.
It's the new technology. Now we have AI that can
make custom porn.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
For whatever you want. If you are rich.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You can get a doll for thousands of dollars. To
be whatever fantasy you want. But then there's just a
million questions. That go behind it. Like there's privacy concerns.
Or ethical concerns. With getting it to look like a person.
That hasn't consented to their image. Being used in this way.
It's very violating. And then this article also notes that
there's a case in South Korea right now where this
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16-year-old was raped and murdered by this man. And when
they went into his house, they found a sex doll
that was customized with bruises and damage to its neck
and chest. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So, like, I think we're in the same world. It's
like grooming a person to become what, you know, like
they don't imagine a sex offender could try it out.
on a doll for, for a year before they actually
carry it out on a real person, then they're going
to be better at it.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
They'll be, you know, like, well, this is the concern
because like, why are you getting a custom sex doll
that looks like somebody that hasn't consented to their image
being used as celebrity, a person you're shocking, whatever, if
you don't have malintent to some regard, I just, I
don't understand.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Why we're even allowed to be.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Making things like this.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I think it's extremely dangerous. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I think That idiot woman that proposed the child sex
doll for pedophiles. We're going to go down the same path.
I mean, we're literally seeing it happening now. And there's
all these online forums, apparently, where like these men are
very sensitive over the dolls and they don't want to
throw them in the trash or discard them in suitcases
like this case in Australia. And then they like have
like a whole adoption process. for their dolls to give
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them to somebody else. But then it's like these dolls
being put up for adoption have like destroyed vaginal cavities,
nipples ripped off, bite marks all over them. And you're like,
what the hell are these people doing with these things?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I know that you think that I actually think that
that's at least more normal because they're like, if they're
treating this thing as being a girlfriend and, and they
just want to like cut off its limbs and put
it in a trash can, it's, It's just really interesting
to think about that they kind of have some kind
of connection and they feel bad doing something like that,
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just throwing them in the trash. Well, it just reminded me,
you ever see that movie with Ryan Gosling, Lars and
the Real Girl? No, I never saw it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's like he has a sex doll girlfriend and then
by the end of the movie, spoiler, I mean, this
movie has been out for so long, so it's your
fault if you haven't seen it, but by the end
of the movie, he finally has the courage to ask
a real girl out so the sex doll dies and
Everybody goes to the funeral doll.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's like Mannequin, the movie. It's just a thing, but whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Whatever. I mean, I think there are many, like, listen,
everybody's going to take this however they're going to take it.
If you need a sex doll to get off, whatever.
It's not my business what you're doing. Just don't model
it after some real person. Certainly don't model it after me.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
If you're going to model one after me, just make
sure it has a really good body. That's that's what
we were saying. That's what we were saying about the
the nudify app. I'm like, OK, please upload my picture
on there because I guarantee I'm going to look way
better naked on that app than I do in real life.
So I just don't find offense to it.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, like do whatever you want. Just don't be violating
anybody ethically. And then, of course, like I don't know,
like people are going to argue that they're doing it.
getting ones with bruises or ones that are injured or
children ones or whatever. So it like can stop them
from doing it in the real world. I would beg
to differ. I think it just temporarily holds them off
until they actually have the balls to execute it in
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real life. And that's what's scary about it. You're like
basically giving them a training vessel to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
All right. So like if you want to go off
this same breath of like men having issues dating, they're
also trying this TikTok trend. which is called pheromone maxing,
but it also could be nicknamed stink maxing. So there's
a debate about what it should actually be called. Where
Gen Z men are skipping showering and deodorant before going
on a date, thinking that their pheromones are going to
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do all the work for them on the date and
attract the right partner.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I think it's a good idea. I do.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
With how bad Gabe's armpits stink, you think this is
a good idea?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You think they stink. I love it. I think he
smells so good. I hate the smell of artificial whatever, cologne, perfume.
I don't like it. You could talk to him about
this because he thinks it's hilarious. When he goes and
gets his hair cut, they put some kind of whatever
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they put on them, powder or aftershave stuff, whatever they do.
And like, when I hug him, I'm like, ew, you
smell like a regular dude. It's so gross. And I
make them take a shower. I hate it. Like, I
don't like, I don't like smelling that. Like, I just
want to smell skin. I do. I just don't think
it's weird. And I like, I can't be the only
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one that thinks about that. I just don't want to
smell cologne. Like, like, I'm sorry, but this is a
hundred percent correct. Like, You have a connection with a
person because of the way they smell.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right. Like, I don't 100% disagree with you. I'm saying, like,
I like my husband's natural smell. But, like, if it
was our very first date, you don't think if somebody had, like,
a bit of stink, it wouldn't turn you off?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
No, because if you like it and you like the person,
then you wouldn't care. Like, I don't know. It just
wouldn't bother me. Like, I see guys wherever we're at. Like,
I hug people. people that are just like friends, family, whatever.
And it's just like, everyone's got a certain smell and
you just like, you know, like when, whenever I hug
Gabe ever since the first day, like, it's just like,
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I like that smell. I don't know. Like, I don't
like the smell of cologne. It's just gross. Yeah. I mean,
I can see that. I don't, I think like, and
you could always smell their smell through the cologne. So
it's just like, I don't know. It's the same. It's
the same thing with, like, when people shit in the toilet, right? Like,
I obviously don't like that smell. But, like, when people spray, like,
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air freshener, it just smells like shit in air freshener. Like,
I don't, like, you're not covering it.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So just, like.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
The only thing that really covers it is letting a match.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So let's get real. I don't know about that. But, like,
it's kind of like my, uh. You know how I can't, like,
I can't listen to too many sounds at the same time.
Like if the radio is on and someone's trying, it's
kind of the same thing. Like when I smell like
too many things, it's too overstimulating. Like I just want to,
you know. Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
The other, speaking of the sound thing, we both have
the other night, we're watching this documentary called Monsters of
God about like the reptile trade. It's like the same
people that did Tiger King and Chimp Crazy. So it's like,
of course, amazing and ridiculous. So we're watching that and
I'm like actually trying to pay attention. And then Ricky's
watching a freaking soccer game on his phone on low volume,
but I could hear it. And then he turns a
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baby sound machine on. I was like, I'm having brain.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Overload right now. I can't do it. I was like,
pick one.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I can't do three sounds at one time.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
It was too much. You know I'm just against people
having volume on their phone in my presence. My mom
could speak to that. The only... Like, really... I think
that there should be a rule, too, that the only
time people have the volume on their phone is when
they're alone. I'll be sitting in a waiting room at
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a doctor's office and people are just listening to videos
full volume. It's so rude.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
The last time I was on an airplane, I saw
somebody get yelled at for listening to their phone on
which I was like, thank God. Especially when we were
on a long flight or something. I mean, that had
to be when we came back from Denver because I
think that was the last time I was on a plane.
That's like a four and a half hour flight for us.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
It's a long time. Yeah, they have a rule on
airplanes that you can't have sound on if you don't
have some kind of headphones or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Speaking of airplanes, I feel very validated with the new
Boeing documentary that came out. I don't need to say more.
If you're a frequent listener of the show, you will
know what I mean. And speaking of my mom, she
made a guest appearance on our YouTube Live on Friday
where she scared the shit out of me walking into
the back room.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, and then she said, I just want to say
hi to my fans.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
And then she went back and watched it and saw
everybody said there was a celebrity sighting, which further boost
her ego.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Oh, God. That didn't help at all. All right.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Next inappropriate topic for mother-daughter duo. Anal sex products, including
an anal dilator and anal douche kits, are rolling.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Out at your local drugstore. So when we just were
on our trip to Maine, we were in some Walgreens
store that was in the middle of nowhere in Maine, right? Yeah.
And I was there to get, because I was having
my terrible stomach issues, and I was there to buy Mylanta.
That's what I was buying. Anyway. You were so old.
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We're like, I don't care. It was that or, like,
I don't know, go to urgent care and start whining.
But anyway, Gabe, so we're walking, and the girls are, like,
looking at makeup aisle and everything. And he comes up
to me, and he goes, come here a second.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
He walks me over to this aisle, which is like
where the pads are, I guess, like the pads in Tampa.
and i guess the last time i've been down that
aisle the the only things that i've seen are like
condoms and lube right no there's like a whole entire
aisle of dildos and he's like is it is this
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like dildos and i was like oh yeah they They
sell them at stores now, I guess, because I feel
like I saw them somewhere else. And he was like
in shock. He couldn't believe that they were just for
sale there. And I was just like, well, dude, like
you're in the middle of Maine. I don't even know
if these people could get mail. They have like there's
no there's no houses. I kept saying to him, I'm
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just like, can you just like order from Amazon here?
Like the postman's going to drive like four hours up
a road to like drop something off at a house.
I don't know. So I said, it's better than them
using like a shampoo bottle or something that's going to
get stuck up there. I mean, this is made for this, right?
I didn't see any of these anal products. So they're
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going to start selling anal dilators so you can get
ready to have anal sex. And they're also going to
be selling anal douche. So you could clean out before
anal sex? Well, all right.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So these products were made by Future Methods, which is
a sexual wellness brand created by anal surgeon Evan Goldstein.
So they said they're going to be prioritizing college towns
and urban centers where he felt the demand would be
the highest. It's going to be rolling out 800 CVS
stores to start, and then they're going to see where
it goes from there.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
So one of my friends who's gay always before he
would go on a date would give himself an enema, right?
Because like you want your rectum to be cleared. So
there's not a mess. What if you poop in between? Well,
you wouldn't. That's what like you do it before you
go on a date. That's why you do it. So,
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but if you're doing it, if you're having anal sex
that much using douche or not douche enemas, often can
damage the lining. And I guess that's the theory with
his new product that he's like, I'm making this special
solution that it doesn't damage the lining as much because
when the lining gets damaged and there's cracks and holes
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in the lining, then if you have anal sex with
someone that has HIV, for example, the transmission is just
going to be that much greater because there's an entryway
for the virus to get into the body. So I
understand his theory, but like... So he's calling it anal douche,
which it's just like an enema though, whatever. So his
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are two douches for $ 26. 99, which is a lot of money.
Like if you have sex multiple times a week, right?
Whereas like a flea enema from Walgreens or Walgreens brand,
you could get two for $ 3. 98. So.
I don't, I don't really understand why his has to
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be like so expensive. It's like for, it's for like, yeah,
it's for like the, those, those rich gay boys, I guess.
I don't know, but he's taking advantage of the fact
and it's a 20. So $ 27 for the beginner dilator
dilator set. Oh no, that's, $ 40, actually. No, it's $ 39. 99
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for the dilator.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah. And $ 26. 99 for either a reusable or a one-time-use
anal douche kit.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
So, interesting. Well, I don't know. I mean, like, I
do understand the point of trying... In theory, it would
be better to use the other solution that... He's like a.
He's an anal surgeon. Yeah. So, he.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
If there's an increase in anal sex, let's make products
that can make it a little more safe for people,
even if they are very pricey.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
It's just bizarre. Again, talking about my dad's lifetime and stuff,
I feel like it was probably a huge shocker to
start selling condoms in a drugstore where people could see them.
And now you're like, oh, we're just full-blown dildo aisle here.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And this is why he doesn't listen to our quote
X-rated show.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You know what, though? I do like where it is going, though.
Because as you know, as I know, the rectal foreign bodies,
it's happening whether you want it to or not. And
people are getting them stuck and having to go to
the hospital. So if they buy the proper thing... especially
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like it is kind of embarrassing to go to like
a dildo store, right?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Like if you're just like, I actually don't think many
people are embarrassed to go there.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's weird. I don't like, I would feel much more
comfortable going to Walgreens and just like checking myself out
and not having an interaction with an employee. Like if
I was going to do something like that. But I mean,
that to me is the whole thing when, when men
are getting these things stuck up inside them, that they're
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embarrassed to buy them, right?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, and tis the season for Christmas tree-shaped objects to
be coming out, which you guys send us a million times.
It's prime ER season for things getting stuck up people's butts.
All right. Somebody at a city council meeting in L.A.
seriously proposed having, quote, sex huts for the homeless to
have sex. Well....
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, it's not like they made sure to say that
this isn't under consideration as of right now. Someone just
made it up. So I don't know. You can go
back and forth on it because all of these people
are homeless and they're jerking off all over the place
and having sex with each other all over the place,
like in public, in front of children, on the street,
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when you're just driving to the store, you're trying to
have a nice Friday night going out to dinner with
your wife and you like anything. So- They want to
make these tents for people to go handle their business in.
I just think that it would be a terrible idea. First,
it's just gross.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I just don't think they're going to use them. They're
not going to care.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, but even if they did, then it's like, well,
what's going on in there? People can get sexually assaulted
in there. It's just like, I don't know. Not that
they can't get sexually assaulted anywhere, but I just think...
I understand that this person is bringing this up at
a city council meeting because... if I lived in LA
in a $ 2 million house and I was walking my
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kids to the bus stop for school, I certainly would
not want them to see somebody jerking off. You know,
like I would be like, can't we put them somewhere
that we don't have to look at this? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah. But you have the thought, can't you put them somewhere?
But guess what? They don't care. They're still just going
to do it wherever. Like I don't see, like maybe 5%
of them will go and use these, what they called
them were quote sexual relief clinics.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
So, OK, like you're going to.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Put a little tent up for them to do it
in there like they're not going to do that. They're
just not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Get a life.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And they said everybody was horrified at the meeting that
it even came up because, of course, it's like taxpayer
dollars paying for this and everybody was like not having it.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like I do. I
do see why they want it put away, though, honestly, like.
Like I'm saying, I wouldn't have problems spending my taxpayer
money if it was making that kind of stuff go away.
I would more be like spend my money to get
them completely out of here, but whatever. We are currently
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having a crisis where men are jacking off on women
at a Dollar Tree and now a Ross? Do you
think we're going to be able to have homeless people
go into designated tents to do it? Also, breaking news.
I don't know if you saw my story today, but
the serial butt sniffer is back again, which you're just
kind of like, I understand that he's not, I mean,
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he's not even technically sexually assaulting someone. This is now
the third or fourth time just on our show that
we've covered that this guy is sticking his head Like
you'll be at Barnes and Noble looking at a book
and all of a sudden this guy is like in
between your legs sniffing your butt. I mean, it's just like,
I don't know what you do with a person like that.
The good thing is he has Shrek ears.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
So I feel he's kind of easy to like recognize
in public. So I guess if you see him just like,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I'd go up to him and be like, Hey, can
I get a selfie with you?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I guess my question is though, like if he's sniffing
your butt and then you beat him up, do you
get in trouble for it?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Oh, I'm sure you will. you'll probably get in more
trouble than he got for all four offenses because.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Like i could see if that was happening to me
like kicking somebody in the face and just like running
away but i don't know it's just so ridiculous all
right on to your questions or emails if you have
a story for us please submit them to stories at
mother knows death.com first is from courtney after hearing nicole
mention it for the second time i have to say
something now Well, let me tell you, I thought this
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was going in a negative direction.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
It was one of my hate. I thought it was
going to be a nasty gram.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
The comment about being at the dentist and then putting
the tools on the chest. That's exactly what my childhood
dentist did to me for every visit. This is something
I had completely forgotten about until I heard Nicole mention
it on another episode. It instantly unlocked in my brain
and I really had to think, oh, yeah, that's not normal,
is it? He was a family dentist for years. I
probably went to him for 7 plus years between 1994
(48:55):
and 2001 until I moved on to an orthodontist for braces.
I don't recall anything sticking out or happening but the
part that grosses me out and makes me wonder why
perhaps is I developed really young. I have also always
been plus size so that gave me an extra on top.
I remember refusing wearing a bra until I was about
10 or 11. That was right in the prime time
of seeing him and that makes me super uncomfortable. I
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probably would have never thought about it if you guys
hadn't talked about it. Crazy and gross to think how
many others over the years of his practice might have
been affected. Old men are gross.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, that is really upsetting. Sorry that happened to you.
That's horrible.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
It is.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Because you don't... You're just kind of like.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
And.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Are you reading that other story that goes along with
this today? Yeah. Okay. So we have another story today.
That's equally, maybe something happened to you as, as a child.
And then somebody else says a similar kind of story.
And then you're like, wait a second, this happened to me.
And in hindsight, cause it's not, it's not like blatant.
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The person took you into a room and, and, and
like penetrated you.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Like, but it's still assault, but, but it's still assault.
And you're kind of like, and yeah, in hindsight, you
look at it and you're like, wait a second. Like
I was a teenage girl. Like, how would I feel if,
if my husband was doing, was a dentist and was
doing that, like you'd be horrified. And that's really all
you have to do is just put that man in
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another situation. And, you know, with, with one of your,
your father or your, husband or your brother or something
and be like, would this be appropriate? And then all
of a sudden you'll quickly realize it's not.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
All right, next is from Anonymous. You all were just
discussing gross things happening during medical procedures. I'd like your opinion.
For many years, I had a quote, dad type of
male gynecologist who I loved and trusted and many of
my girlfriends saw. He always saw me with a female
nurse and the office dog in the exam room. Then
he retired and I didn't bother to find a new GYN.
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A few years after, I had a male general practitioner
that I adored and trusted. He was young, professional, and
very approachable. He and his wife both worked at the
same family practice. I went to him for my annual physical.
I was a little surprised when I saw him in
the exam room. His appearance had changed drastically. He'd grown
his hair out and was wearing hemp necklaces and beaded bracelets.
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I chuckled to myself and thought,' Must be a midlife crisis.'
He reminded me I was overdue for a pap, and
he'd complained that his wife took all the paps and
internal exams. I was used to a male GYN, so
I said he could perform the pap and exam no problem.
He performed the exam with only he and I in
the room. Once the exam was over, I realized he
was not wearing gloves. Serious hand that rocked the cradle vibes.
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I told my mom as soon as I left the office.
She's old school and wasn't sure it was something to
think twice about. The next time I saw him a
few months later for something like a strep test, he
told me him and his wife were separated. Soon after that,
they both left to practice and moved to another state.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Icky? Just a lapse in protocol due to being distracted
in his personal life? Are gloves protocol?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
So-so. Love your show.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I'm originally from Central PA and at the same age
as you, Nicole. Your darling accents are so comforting to me.
Keep the episodes coming.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, I would say, especially since you're my age, that gloves,
I mean, gloves have been a thing for a very
long time. So, yes, it was completely inappropriate. And I
almost wonder, like, where that was going. I feel like
his comment was kind of weird. Am I listening to
(52:36):
that right? That he said he was complaining because his
wife was taking all the paps away from him and
the exams? Or were they just... I don't really understand
that comment of it. Or was it in regards to
like the, the tools that are used to do it?
(52:58):
I'm not sure, but if he would, it says.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
He complained that his wife took all the paps and
internal exams.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah. Like that's weird to me. Cause why would, I mean,
if you're a physician, I understand that you, you know,
it's just like in my field, I prefer doing an
autopsy instead of surgical pathology or whatever. Like I understand
you prefer things, but like, I feel like it's a
little bizarre for a man to be like, oh, my, like,
(53:26):
I can't do paps anymore. Like, really? That's weird. Like, furthermore,
you're still making money and working here. Like, why is he.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Telling you he's separated? Like, his personal life is none
of your business.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, it is. It's very weird. So and then just
to see that, like, he put his hands in your
vagina without gloves on is bizarre. Yeah. No, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Like, I don't think that's a distraction. I mean, don't
you think it's just muscle memory at that point? Yeah,
there absolutely is not.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Especially for him as a physician, you know, you do
still have to be worried about getting a transmissible infection.
You know, like, you have cuts on your hand, whatever. Like,
you just don't want to be touching a patient and
their body fluids and potentially blood you know, when you
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do a pap, sometimes a person can bleed or they
could have their period or something like there's absolutely no
reason that, you know, I think a doctor, it's okay
if a doctor touches you without gloves to like check
your thyroid and look for lymph nodes in your neck
and things like that. But like, yeah, like in your,
on your genitals and stuff, it's just, it's completely inappropriate.
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And one other thing I want to say is that
I wonder why they're getting divorced and I wonder why
they moved to another state and if something similar like
this happened and perhaps maybe she was getting divorced because
of him inappropriately touching another female patient and maybe him
having to go get a license in another state to
try to circumvent any of those accusations. So If you
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remember his name, I just, like... There's nothing you can
do about it now, I don't think. But I feel
like you should just search it out and see, like,
if anything comes up with that. Because I wouldn't be
surprised if it did. Because that's just really bizarre.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
I don't think I'd want to go to a doctor
wearing beaded bracelets.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
And have necklaces either. So, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
This is really shitty. And I'm sorry you were put
in that position. That's not cool.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, it really is. It's really upsetting. Because I... Like,
what do you even do in that situation? Like, that's
just so gross. It's just gross. It really is.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
All right, last is from Kelly. I want to tell
you that I'm such a big fan of Mother Knows Death,
The Gross Room, and all the content you share. I'm
constantly sharing your stories, sometimes with my closest friends, and
sometimes with random acquaintances who probably don't appreciate them nearly
as much.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
As they should.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Honestly, I've accepted my role as that girl who always
has a weird health.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Phenomenon queued up.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Thanks for keeping things hilarious and unreasonably relatable every single day.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Aw, thank you.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Well, that was very sweet, and thank you. And I
find it funny you telling totally random people these outrageous stories.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I do. You want to hear something funny? So, my neighbor...
My neighbors and I have a group text. I've talked
about this before. And.
Most a couple of my neighbors are like my age.
There's two couples that are like you and Ricky's age.
And then there's like the old people.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
So there's like a variety around here. And someone wrote
in the text, like, does anyone have feta cheese? I
could like I need it right now for this recipe
I'm making. And but they instead of putting feta, they
like mistyped and put fetal fetal cheese.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
So then it was like this big joke back and forth.
And then I was like, well. Actually, when a baby's born,
they're covered in this cheesy substance. And it's actually called
vernix caseosum. And that just means like waxy cheese kind of.
And they were just like laughing. I'm like, I always
have like some weird... medical fact to throw into a conversation.
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So I was like, there is actually a thing called
fetal cheese. I know.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
I love when I'm talking to someone and they go,
this might be TMI. And I was like, I'll stop
you right there. I don't think you knew how I
grew up. And I'm a chronic oversharer, so I don't
think anything is TMI.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah. Nobody's ever told me anything that I've been like, okay,
that was too much. Yeah, I don't think so either.
I can't think of anything that you're like, I'm like,
I've heard everything.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
Sometimes I'm like, I wouldn't have shared that with somebody else. Oh, yeah.
But like, it's not like something I've never heard before.
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If I had a way, like if we were listening
to a show like this, though, and I had a
way to message in and just be like, you know,
maybe don't use my first name, I would share, you know,
more like that probably.
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Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, we just had an anonymous
story today.
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We don't have to use your name. We respect it
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anyone's going to know the name Jen. It's like, ooh,
that Jen. Unless you have a super unique name. You
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Hi everyone, welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about the recent lawsuit and settlement
with Meta, including Instagram and Facebook. Then we're going to
get into some wild sex stories. First, we'll start off
with a realistic sex doll and AI vagina. So apparently
they're a thing now. Then we'll talk about a new
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anal douche that's on the market. The latest maxing trend.
This time it's called stink maxing. Then a proposal for
sex huts for homeless people in Los Angeles. We'll finish
up with your comments, questions, and emails, all that and
more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Ridiculous as usual.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Every story.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes. First, Meta's teen addiction lawsuit has come to an
end with them agreeing to pay $ 18 billion and make
major changes to both Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And I said this to.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You the other day too, like, then they put out
a call to action to YouTube and TikTok to also
make changes. It just really, to me, it read like,
we got in trouble with daddy. So now you need
to get in trouble too. That's just how I read it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And all, you know, all those call to action posts.
Cause I've seen them like four different times in my feed.
There's no comments.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
They turn the comments off.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And you're just like, why? Cause you're like, everybody's going
to call you guys little bitches. Like they're there. Well,
do you know that there's also a cash incentive for them?
Like a hot, it's a lot. It's like they could get,
basically like five billion dollars off of the fine if
they're able to get other people to join in on
it that is ridiculous but and and for me i'm
(02:01):
just like the only reason they put out that call
to action was because the teenagers will then want to
go to those other platforms where they're allowed to be
on it all night they don't give a shit about
your kids they don't give a shit about any of
us they're just kind of like well, we should all
have the same rules across, which, I mean, technically they should.
(02:24):
Because if Facebook's getting in trouble for it, it's like
every other platform's kind of the same exact way too,
isn't it? No, like I agree.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They all should be making the changes, but it's like, oh,
you're only putting the call to action out because you
got in trouble because you've had whistleblowers coming forward, exposing
that you were turning a blind eye, fully knowing these
issues were going on. But because it would hurt you.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Financially to have to make all these changes, why would
you do that? If you just pretend like it's not happening.
But why isn't Congress pulling in the other companies and
seeing what they're doing too? That's what's weird. Why does
it have to be like, I'm sorry, but if I
own YouTube or TikTok and the majority of the... people
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that are looking at my platform are teenagers for a
long period of time a day. I'm not just going
to put these things into place to lose money because
I'm a nice person. Just like Facebook and Instagram wouldn't
have done it either. They just did it because they
were forced to.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean, I don't really know why they weren't
wrapped into this lawsuit. Maybe they are all going to
get sued separately at having a higher chance of winning.
I really don't know the reasoning behind that, but This
article did talk about that all of these companies are
facing thousands of lawsuits. I mean, we just talked about
that one where that girl sued them, alleging that she
formed an addiction from being on these platforms and they
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all settled with her.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
She got millions of dollars, remember? Which is interesting because
I guess every single one of us, for the most part,
especially people like me who use it for, like I
use it for business, right? And mine's unusual because we
had like, For example, one of our friends that used
to sell jewelry, she had an Instagram account and was
(04:16):
able to sell her jewelry through there. So her main
business wasn't Instagram, but that's how she was getting business.
And she was killing it for a couple years. And
then all of a sudden, when they introduced the algorithm
and stuff, her account just went completely dead, essentially. And
she had a lot of followers, like a couple hundred
thousand followers. And nobody was seeing her stuff anymore anymore.
(04:38):
And her business actually kind of went under and she
had to get rid of it and she had to
start something new. And I'm sure just talking right now,
there's probably hundreds of you listening right now that have
a similar experience. Mine's a little bit different because my
whole thing kind of started on Instagram. But I still
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see the change of what it was 13 or 14
years ago when I actually started on the platform and
how you know, and, and my husband always says the
best thing. He's like, they're, they're literally drug dealers. Like
they give you this thing for free and they get
you hooked and then they, they could do whatever they
want with you because they know that you're hooked kind of. And, um,
(05:24):
it's not even like with the, With the younger kids,
it's because of the like an addiction thing. But with
adults and stuff, it's if you think about every single business,
your landscaping business, just like random stuff, like everyone is
relying on these platforms to get customers and to communicate
with their customers. So when you take that away, it
(05:46):
does psychologically affect people.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, they don't give a shit because business-wise it's working
out for them. I mean, financially, they're killing it because
they introduced this new algorithm and then you have to pay, right?
You have to pay to push your post to your
own audience, which is ridiculous. And then they allege to
other people too, which they're not seeing your stuff at all.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And people are clearly paying.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, every time I see their quarterly numbers come out,
it's higher and higher and higher. Like they're making more
money than ever. So why do they care about the
psychological damage being done to everybody?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think he sees it as like, how dare you
make money off my platform for free? How dare you
do that? Think about all the influencers.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Who are making a ton of money and everything. I
personally am not going to pay a dollar for that.
But if they said to you, even if they said
to you, I have 1.5 million followers, right? If they
said to you, okay, pay $ 5, 000 a month and all
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your followers could see stuff. I feel like every single
person would do that. It's more of the way that
it is. It's almost like gambling to me and I
don't gamble. They just say like, oh, if you pay
this extra money a post, then you'll be able to
show 100 more people or 100,000 more people depending on
what you pay. But it always is like up to
(07:11):
100,000 more people will see it. There's no guarantee that
you never really see a return on it necessarily. You know,
I did try it one time and I was like,
I feel like I'm sticking a $ 20 bill in a
slot machine right now and praying that something comes out.
And I do think that they could actually keep doing
what they're doing and make even more money if it
(07:33):
was more just like, this is what you pay and
this is what you get kind of a thing. Um,
And I know they started charging too for like other stuff, right? Like,
because now you could get a badge if you pay
for it every month. You get the badge and there's
levels of it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Like there's like just getting the badge and then there's
having actual access to customer service, which I don't know
how you're able to run a business like this and
people can't have access to customer service.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And I feel like They've done a really good job
at keeping this lawsuit and many others under wraps, but
I guess it's because they're controlling what we're seeing and
these are the primary platforms we're on. So basically, if
you have no idea what we're talking about, 29 states
sued Meta, alleging they were harming children. They were seeking
$ 1. 36 trillion payment. They said they were deliberately designing addictive
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products that hooked young people leading to mental health issues,
including anxiety, depression, and suicide. And they claim they regularly
collected data on children under the age of 13 without
parental permission in violation of federal and state laws. So
last week, this was going to a jury trial and
then they settled for the $ 18 billion, which that is
so much money, but a fraction.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Of $ 1. 36 trillion. Well, because, which makes me think that
they knew they were going to lose.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, and the question too is like, What happens if
this did go through the full blown trial and they
lost and had that judgment? Like, is this company just
going away? What happens to us as society if all
of a sudden the main connection between us and the world,
which is Instagram and Facebook, suddenly disappears? because they lost
this lawsuit. It's just very interesting to analyze.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, but I just think that that would never happen
because there would still be X and there would still
be TikTok and there would still be Snapchat. Like people
would just move over to whatever was open.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Or somebody would buy them out of their debt and
then hopefully change it and run it a better way.
I cannot stand Mark Zuckerberg. And I can't, there's actually,
I believe, a movie coming out. What's today, September? Oh
my God, I can't even believe it's September. This is ridiculous. Anyway,
I believe there's a movie coming out this month about
the whistleblowers that work that meta.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I'm interested. And, you know, we we have talked
about this on the show so many times about just
how bad. I mean, I'm still going strong that my
kids aren't going to have social media and everything. especially
my 13-year-old is laying it on thick all the time.
And I'm just like, no, no, no. Just because of,
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especially with girls, how bad it is. And it's not just...
I don't really care about them looking at YouTube videos
and stuff. It's like, whatever. I mean, like, they're just
getting stupid ideas and influence from other people, but that's whatever.
It's more of them, you know, and one of the
things on here is they're not allowed to have these, like,
(10:31):
plastic surgery filters. Yeah. Which is awesome because they're so
terrible for children.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
These are the changes they're implementing. So it's including time limits,
stopping notifications during school. a block on the app during
critical overnight hours, and bans on plastic surgery filters and more.
So how long do they have to implement these?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
When are we going to see them? They said soon.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Are they going to follow up with studies every year
to prove that these are enough?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well, the state of New Jersey, they just put in
a law that kids aren't allowed to have their phones
at school. And I don't know how that goes with
private and public schools, but... I know the public schools
in our area have to go by it and they're
not supposed to have their phones even like off in
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their pocket or their ringer off. They're not even supposed
to have it on their bodies. And a lot of
parents are mad about it, obviously, because of school shootings.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, that's why I don't really like that, because I
feel like more than ever now. But I obviously understand
the distraction during class.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, like, listen, I just feel like it's really simple.
When I was a kid, a teenager in the 90s, right,
the big thing was, like, to have a pager or
a beeper, right? Which is so corny. But, like, we
all had one because it was, like, oh, cool. And
there was, like, a stand at the mall that you
could get, like, a cool teal cover for it. So
it's the coolest thing ever, right? And when we were
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in school, our teachers were straight up, like, if I
hear that thing vibrate or I hear that thing ring,
I'm going to take it and I'm putting it in
my desk and you will get it back on the
last day of school. And we were all petrified of
that happening because we couldn't get our parents to call
and be like, they have to have it. But there
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was no, it was going in your teacher's desk drawer
until the last day of school. And if they just
kept that rule, right? Because like, One of our friends
a couple years ago, she's since graduated high school. She
had called one of her children was in school with
the cell phone. Right. And she called her mom during
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class on FaceTime while and like our friend heard them,
the teacher teaching in the background. And then this group
of kids are in the back of the classroom, like
talking and FaceTiming with the mom and everything. And I'm
just like, how have we gotten here that that's just okay?
I don't really think that they need to ban phones
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in school. They just need to implement rules that they
stick by and just say, we're taking it away if
we hear the ringer, if we see you texting, if
you're on it. If you want to say the only
emergency is there's a school shooting and I need to
call home, then there's absolutely no reason that a child
needs to be on it in class during school. Like
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class time. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Like we had cell phones when I was in high
school and they were just really strict about it. I mean,
it would get taken away if you were caught on it.
You would get detention, but you were allowed to have
it on your person. But even if I remember certain classes,
like even if it just rang, you would get it
taken away. Even if it was like an innocent mistake
and you left it on.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You should. But it's just like a really simple solution.
But then they're so scared of getting sued about stuff
and this, that and the other. And and like that's
really what the root of the problem is, in my opinion.
So now it's like this blanket.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Children used to get beat in schools like they can relax,
like just taking away somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
My dad really has like he he really is like
an anybody that's like 80 years old right now has
lived through the craziest time period. I mean, I remember
recently I was talking to my dad. And he says,
you know, he grew up in Philadelphia, in South Philadelphia.
He remembers, like, a horse and carriage coming down the
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street to deliver ice and milk to his house, okay?
And now in his same lifetime, and of course the nuns,
he went to Newman High School, but he went to,
you know, he went to Catholic school. The nuns used
to beat the shit out of them with a ruler
and stuff, right? And he said that if he went
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home and told his parents that the nuns beat him up,
he would get in even more trouble because it was
so embarrassing to their family. And now it's like he's
still alive and gets to live in this generation where
it's just completely reversed. Like the kids are running the show.
It's just like, I don't even understand how old people
(15:18):
are like sitting back and just like watching this happen
right now. I don't either. I really don't. It's crazy. And, like, obviously,
I don't want my child to get beat by a
teacher at school. But I also don't want my child
to have no rules at school. Like, why are we
so extreme with it has to be, like, this way
or the other?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We're losing structure in society as a whole, and I
think that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, it started when people started wearing their pajamas to
the airport. Let's face it. It's not even the airport.
It's everywhere. The mall. Like, there is absolutely no reason
that you're ever in public wearing pajama pants or slippers. Like,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, I think you're in the minority thinking that way.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't care. You could say whatever. It's really just
not that hard to put on a pair of jeans. Like,
I'm wearing jeans right now, and you can't tell that
I'm wearing jeans because you only could see me from
the chest up. I could be wearing, you know, pajama
pants that have Tweety Bird all over them, right? But like,
it's just they're just not that uncomfortable. It's just not
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that hard to wake up every day. It takes me
two seconds to put on like I'm not wearing a
suit and tie, but just to put on like something
presentable is just not that hard.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just think we need to reintroduce structure back into society.
Like I'm seeing it with a lot of parenting videos
to letting your child just like completely control your life.
And I'm like, yeah, no, good, good try.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
They're going to be real fun when they get older.
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So this next story is kind of an extension of
a story we covered about when that sex doll was
found in a suitcase in Australia and they were investigating it.
And even though they were able to determine it was
fake right away, they still needed to make sure it
wasn't going to be connected to some other crime. So
This article is talking about the sex doll market, basically,
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and saying that in 2026, an analysis of the market
was valued at $ 6. 6 billion in 2025, with a projection
that it will more than double to $ 13. 4 billion by 2033.
This is just sex doll markets. So that was the
2026 analysis of last year and where they predict it's
going to go in the next decade. So then they
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start talking about, in 2017... how this brand called ReDoll
introduces AI-generated doll named Harmony, and Harmony even has an
AI vagina, which is an electronic insert that pairs via
Bluetooth to the X-Mode app. It detects touch, movement, and speed,
transitioning naturally from mild arousal to climax, and synchronized vocal
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responses that make every moment feel real. What are your
thoughts on this?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, this So this is interesting. I listened to an
interview last week about just the state of teenage boys
right now, right? And just all of these things that
are things like this that are there and that... that
in turn affects, you know, teenage girls as well, because of,
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you know, that's the age where you start dating and
having relationships. And there's all of these studies done that
people aren't dating. People aren't getting married. People aren't having babies,
like things like that, which is kind of a huge problem.
If you want art, you know, species to continue to exist.
So some of the problems that are associated with these
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teen boys are like, you know, they're interviewing all these
teen boys and they're saying, why aren't you dating and stuff?
And they have AI girlfriends. Like they have their ideal
dream woman as an AI character that checks in on
them and isn't like a nag, like a real girlfriend
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would be, right? And then- what they're able to do
is if they see any girl that they think is hot,
they could just take her picture and like upload it
into a program and then all of a sudden turn
her into porn, right? So you could have sex with, well,
you could have sex with yourself, but you could be
looking at the girl of your dreams naked in all
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different kinds of positions because as of right now, there's
no rules about just uploading anyone's picture into one of
these programs. So, The next step with that is now
you can get these dolls. Now you can get these
dolls to be customized to look like a person. So
we actually had a story this week, yesterday, on, well, yeah,
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Lamar Odom, he is Khloe Kardashian's ex-husband, has a sex
doll that looks like her. But yesterday we had a
story in Monday's Morbid Minute about a guy who was
stalking some woman who, for 13 years, 13 years. And
when they went into his house, they found a bunch
of weird shit. Like he had like a piece of
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John Wayne Gacy's brain. Apparently, I don't know. It was
labeled that and like skulls and like some kind of
oddity collection. But he also had a sex doll that
looked like the woman he was stalking. Okay. And like,
it's just like, it's just too weird. And you have
to say like, all right, well, when is this going
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to be a crossover? Because we were talking a couple
years ago about... Remember there was that... I don't know
if she was like a congressperson or something, but she
was trying to say that pedophiles should have child sex
dolls instead of... Because it would make them not want
to prey on children.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, and we argued that the very opposite effect was
going to happen. It's going to make them escalate.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Exactly. So it's like now... You're having these sex dolls
and people are... This is so bizarre to say this,
but people that have them, some of them are mistreating
the sex dolls. So they're putting fake bruises and stuff
on them. That was the case in Australia. We were like,
why are there fake bruises on this doll? Which made
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it seem even more realistic. Yeah, so it's like if
someone has... And like in this case that we talked
about yesterday, that this person is stalking a woman for
13 years and then gets a sex doll made to
look like her. It's just like he's committing a crime
right there. I mean, even if he wasn't stalked, let's
pretend he wasn't even stalking her. And maybe he just
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had like an obsession from afar over her, but he
wasn't really doing anything to scare her or anything. It's
still creepy that that happens.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, that's a total violation if somebody is even using
AI-generated porn of yourself or going to extremes and paying
thousands of dollars to get a custom sex doll to
look like you.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That is such a violation. But the thing is, is
that to the defense of the AI porn people, there's
no regulations right now, and... You know, there's always people
looking to go into business and there's no regulations. And
it's a huge multi-million, billion-dollar industry. So, like, why not
have it? I mean, like, they don't have any morals.
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They don't care. But I just can't think of a
world where any picture... Because every picture is a person
that you're uploading, right? It belongs to somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And they say... you know, there are laws against doing
the child porn, you know, to upload that into one
of these things. But when you upload, let's say you
upload a picture of a 16 or a 17 year old,
how does the technology know that it's technically legally a minor,
but it's, you know, the kid looks like an adult,
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but it's not really an adult. And then you have
guys that like teachers that have students in 10th grade
that are they're attracted to and now they're uploading them
in ai porn you know like.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well i i don't think it can and this is
becoming a serious problem i don't even think we talked
about this on here we talked about on youtube where
these they're they're these like nudify apps where you could
literally upload a picture of somebody and like select the
area of clothing you want removed and it does that.
And it even makes videos of them like flashing their
boobs or their genitals or whatever. Like this company, I
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don't even remember who did the video about it. Some
news company did an investigation on it and they uploaded
AI generated images of people and then did it. And
it so easily removed their clothes or made videos of
them doing scandalous things. And it's so disturbing to think
that that picture could just be you. So I guess like, yeah,
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When you escalate from even just going to the app
to the sex doll, I mean, these dolls are thousands
of dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
They're not cheap.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But there's a company in particular called Coeros. It's C-O-E-R-O-S.
So they are an online sex doll accessory brand based
out of L.A. They offer the customized sex doll heads,
which are about $ 1, 800. just for the head, and they said,
according to the website, they're able to model each head
on photos of a real person, an original character, or
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an AI-generated image, and then customers are able to upload
their own reference photos to a submission form on the
site when.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Ordering the textile.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So, they're saying they don't condone people using them for
non-consensual purposes or for harassment, but, like, how do you
know if that's what's happening? How often is it It
just doesn't seem like they're making, like, the woman... Because
let's be honest, how many male sex dolls are being made? So, like,
it's not like they're making the woman sign a consent
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form saying she agrees to use her photograph for this purpose.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Like, how did Lamar get that one made of Chloe?
What woman is actually doing that? Like, if my husband's
going to go buy a sex doll, he's going to
get one that looks like me. Like, okay. Like, who
agrees to this anyway? Think about that. Like, nobody's like, oh, honey...
go get this sex doll to look like me. I
think it'll be awesome. There's no one agreeing to it.
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No woman is saying, yeah, that's okay. Nobody is. So
because in a relation, like why would anybody that you're
in a relationship with get a sex doll that looks
like you if they could just have sex with you? Like,
and the other person like, what is one of your
friends going to come up to you and be like,
do you mind if I get a sex doll that
looks like you? It's just, no one's giving permission for that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And you shouldn't be able to get a celebrity just
because they're a public figure. Cause that's very violating in
and of itself. I just, I don't see who this
market is for. Apparently this is, I mean, we just
read the numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's a huge market. They're making billions of dollars. What
do you mean? You don't see who the market's for.
It's for everyone. It's just like, it's like, Obviously, that's
a benefit. Do you want to have sex with the
blow-up doll that looks like that? Or do you want
to have sex with somebody that looks like a real
person that looks like some hot movie star Jennifer Aniston
person that you've been fantasizing about your whole life? That's
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who the market's for. It's for every dude that's into
that stuff. It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Especially if they can have AI vaginas that can mimic
how real vaginas are going to feel.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
This is ridiculous. This is what the problem is, though,
because now it's just... you know, men used to have
to kind of work a little bit hard to get
a woman. And now it's like, they don't want to
deal with it. If you could come home and have
a computer talking to you and knows everything that you like,
talks to you really nice every day, doesn't pick fights
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with you, doesn't tell you you're looking at other girls,
stuff like that. You don't have to get up and
get dressed and go out to dinner. And you could
have sex with this thing that's like kind of It's
not the real thing, but it's like close enough and
you're getting off. Like, what's the point of trying to
find a real relationship? And then once you're doing that
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and you have that kind of dopamine going on, how
are you ever going to go back down to reality?
It's just like, and it's the same thing with the
exposure of all the porn too. Like the, the, the,
the young teenage boys are just getting so overstimulated with
it and, and like a not real situation that they're
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actually having like erectile dysfunction when they're trying to have
sex with a woman. It's like, it's really bad. Cause
it's cause the reality is altered so much.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Well, I hate to call out my romance reader community too,
but I'm seeing a problem in the smut reading community
as well, because like a lot of these books are like,
written by women about ideal sex partners and like men
knowing what they're doing so well. And I think just
it's setting a very unrealistic expectation for women that are dating,
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thinking that that's how it's going to go. And like,
I even see it when I go to book club meetings,
the way people are talking about stuff. Sometimes I see
it on online communities where people are talking about certain books.
Like it's just setting up very unrealistic expectations. and i
guess the big i i don't think that that's anything
new no it's not but i'm saying like just the
excessive like push for it right now like romance books
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have been around forever but there's been a resurgence with
millennials like they've rebranded them to have cute pink And
vibrant neon colors. So it looks cute in your house.
And everything like that. But it's like essentially the same content.
And it's the same as this. Like it's the overexposure.
It's the new technology. Now we have AI that can
make custom porn.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
For whatever you want. If you are rich.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You can get a doll for thousands of dollars. To
be whatever fantasy you want. But then there's just a
million questions. That go behind it. Like there's privacy concerns.
Or ethical concerns. With getting it to look like a person.
That hasn't consented to their image. Being used in this way.
It's very violating. And then this article also notes that
there's a case in South Korea right now where this
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16-year-old was raped and murdered by this man. And when
they went into his house, they found a sex doll
that was customized with bruises and damage to its neck
and chest. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So, like, I think we're in the same world. It's
like grooming a person to become what, you know, like
they don't imagine a sex offender could try it out.
on a doll for, for a year before they actually
carry it out on a real person, then they're going
to be better at it.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
They'll be, you know, like, well, this is the concern
because like, why are you getting a custom sex doll
that looks like somebody that hasn't consented to their image
being used as celebrity, a person you're shocking, whatever, if
you don't have malintent to some regard, I just, I
don't understand.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Why we're even allowed to be.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Making things like this.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I think it's extremely dangerous. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I think That idiot woman that proposed the child sex
doll for pedophiles. We're going to go down the same path.
I mean, we're literally seeing it happening now. And there's
all these online forums, apparently, where like these men are
very sensitive over the dolls and they don't want to
throw them in the trash or discard them in suitcases
like this case in Australia. And then they like have
like a whole adoption process. for their dolls to give
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them to somebody else. But then it's like these dolls
being put up for adoption have like destroyed vaginal cavities,
nipples ripped off, bite marks all over them. And you're like,
what the hell are these people doing with these things?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I know that you think that I actually think that
that's at least more normal because they're like, if they're
treating this thing as being a girlfriend and, and they
just want to like cut off its limbs and put
it in a trash can, it's, It's just really interesting
to think about that they kind of have some kind
of connection and they feel bad doing something like that,
(32:18):
just throwing them in the trash. Well, it just reminded me,
you ever see that movie with Ryan Gosling, Lars and
the Real Girl? No, I never saw it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's like he has a sex doll girlfriend and then
by the end of the movie, spoiler, I mean, this
movie has been out for so long, so it's your
fault if you haven't seen it, but by the end
of the movie, he finally has the courage to ask
a real girl out so the sex doll dies and
Everybody goes to the funeral doll.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's like Mannequin, the movie. It's just a thing, but whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Whatever. I mean, I think there are many, like, listen,
everybody's going to take this however they're going to take it.
If you need a sex doll to get off, whatever.
It's not my business what you're doing. Just don't model
it after some real person. Certainly don't model it after me.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
If you're going to model one after me, just make
sure it has a really good body. That's that's what
we were saying. That's what we were saying about the
the nudify app. I'm like, OK, please upload my picture
on there because I guarantee I'm going to look way
better naked on that app than I do in real life.
So I just don't find offense to it.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, like do whatever you want. Just don't be violating
anybody ethically. And then, of course, like I don't know,
like people are going to argue that they're doing it.
getting ones with bruises or ones that are injured or
children ones or whatever. So it like can stop them
from doing it in the real world. I would beg
to differ. I think it just temporarily holds them off
until they actually have the balls to execute it in
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real life. And that's what's scary about it. You're like
basically giving them a training vessel to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
All right. So like if you want to go off
this same breath of like men having issues dating, they're
also trying this TikTok trend. which is called pheromone maxing,
but it also could be nicknamed stink maxing. So there's
a debate about what it should actually be called. Where
Gen Z men are skipping showering and deodorant before going
on a date, thinking that their pheromones are going to
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do all the work for them on the date and
attract the right partner.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I think it's a good idea. I do.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
With how bad Gabe's armpits stink, you think this is
a good idea?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You think they stink. I love it. I think he
smells so good. I hate the smell of artificial whatever, cologne, perfume.
I don't like it. You could talk to him about
this because he thinks it's hilarious. When he goes and
gets his hair cut, they put some kind of whatever
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they put on them, powder or aftershave stuff, whatever they do.
And like, when I hug him, I'm like, ew, you
smell like a regular dude. It's so gross. And I
make them take a shower. I hate it. Like, I
don't like, I don't like smelling that. Like, I just
want to smell skin. I do. I just don't think
it's weird. And I like, I can't be the only
(35:09):
one that thinks about that. I just don't want to
smell cologne. Like, like, I'm sorry, but this is a
hundred percent correct. Like, You have a connection with a
person because of the way they smell.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right. Like, I don't 100% disagree with you. I'm saying, like,
I like my husband's natural smell. But, like, if it
was our very first date, you don't think if somebody had, like,
a bit of stink, it wouldn't turn you off?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
No, because if you like it and you like the person,
then you wouldn't care. Like, I don't know. It just
wouldn't bother me. Like, I see guys wherever we're at. Like,
I hug people. people that are just like friends, family, whatever.
And it's just like, everyone's got a certain smell and
you just like, you know, like when, whenever I hug
Gabe ever since the first day, like, it's just like,
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I like that smell. I don't know. Like, I don't
like the smell of cologne. It's just gross. Yeah. I mean,
I can see that. I don't, I think like, and
you could always smell their smell through the cologne. So
it's just like, I don't know. It's the same. It's
the same thing with, like, when people shit in the toilet, right? Like,
I obviously don't like that smell. But, like, when people spray, like,
(36:16):
air freshener, it just smells like shit in air freshener. Like,
I don't, like, you're not covering it.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So just, like.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
The only thing that really covers it is letting a match.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So let's get real. I don't know about that. But, like,
it's kind of like my, uh. You know how I can't, like,
I can't listen to too many sounds at the same time.
Like if the radio is on and someone's trying, it's
kind of the same thing. Like when I smell like
too many things, it's too overstimulating. Like I just want to,
you know. Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
The other, speaking of the sound thing, we both have
the other night, we're watching this documentary called Monsters of
God about like the reptile trade. It's like the same
people that did Tiger King and Chimp Crazy. So it's like,
of course, amazing and ridiculous. So we're watching that and
I'm like actually trying to pay attention. And then Ricky's
watching a freaking soccer game on his phone on low volume,
but I could hear it. And then he turns a
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baby sound machine on. I was like, I'm having brain.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Overload right now. I can't do it. I was like,
pick one.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I can't do three sounds at one time.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
It was too much. You know I'm just against people
having volume on their phone in my presence. My mom
could speak to that. The only... Like, really... I think
that there should be a rule, too, that the only
time people have the volume on their phone is when
they're alone. I'll be sitting in a waiting room at
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a doctor's office and people are just listening to videos
full volume. It's so rude.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
The last time I was on an airplane, I saw
somebody get yelled at for listening to their phone on
which I was like, thank God. Especially when we were
on a long flight or something. I mean, that had
to be when we came back from Denver because I
think that was the last time I was on a plane.
That's like a four and a half hour flight for us.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
It's a long time. Yeah, they have a rule on
airplanes that you can't have sound on if you don't
have some kind of headphones or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Speaking of airplanes, I feel very validated with the new
Boeing documentary that came out. I don't need to say more.
If you're a frequent listener of the show, you will
know what I mean. And speaking of my mom, she
made a guest appearance on our YouTube Live on Friday
where she scared the shit out of me walking into
the back room.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, and then she said, I just want to say
hi to my fans.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
And then she went back and watched it and saw
everybody said there was a celebrity sighting, which further boost
her ego.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Oh, God. That didn't help at all. All right.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Next inappropriate topic for mother-daughter duo. Anal sex products, including
an anal dilator and anal douche kits, are rolling.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Out at your local drugstore. So when we just were
on our trip to Maine, we were in some Walgreens
store that was in the middle of nowhere in Maine, right? Yeah.
And I was there to get, because I was having
my terrible stomach issues, and I was there to buy Mylanta.
That's what I was buying. Anyway. You were so old.
(39:06):
We're like, I don't care. It was that or, like,
I don't know, go to urgent care and start whining.
But anyway, Gabe, so we're walking, and the girls are, like,
looking at makeup aisle and everything. And he comes up
to me, and he goes, come here a second.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
He walks me over to this aisle, which is like
where the pads are, I guess, like the pads in Tampa.
and i guess the last time i've been down that
aisle the the only things that i've seen are like
condoms and lube right no there's like a whole entire
aisle of dildos and he's like is it is this
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like dildos and i was like oh yeah they They
sell them at stores now, I guess, because I feel
like I saw them somewhere else. And he was like
in shock. He couldn't believe that they were just for
sale there. And I was just like, well, dude, like
you're in the middle of Maine. I don't even know
if these people could get mail. They have like there's
no there's no houses. I kept saying to him, I'm
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just like, can you just like order from Amazon here?
Like the postman's going to drive like four hours up
a road to like drop something off at a house.
I don't know. So I said, it's better than them
using like a shampoo bottle or something that's going to
get stuck up there. I mean, this is made for this, right?
I didn't see any of these anal products. So they're
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going to start selling anal dilators so you can get
ready to have anal sex. And they're also going to
be selling anal douche. So you could clean out before
anal sex? Well, all right.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So these products were made by Future Methods, which is
a sexual wellness brand created by anal surgeon Evan Goldstein.
So they said they're going to be prioritizing college towns
and urban centers where he felt the demand would be
the highest. It's going to be rolling out 800 CVS
stores to start, and then they're going to see where
it goes from there.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
So one of my friends who's gay always before he
would go on a date would give himself an enema, right?
Because like you want your rectum to be cleared. So
there's not a mess. What if you poop in between? Well,
you wouldn't. That's what like you do it before you
go on a date. That's why you do it. So,
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but if you're doing it, if you're having anal sex
that much using douche or not douche enemas, often can
damage the lining. And I guess that's the theory with
his new product that he's like, I'm making this special
solution that it doesn't damage the lining as much because
when the lining gets damaged and there's cracks and holes
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in the lining, then if you have anal sex with
someone that has HIV, for example, the transmission is just
going to be that much greater because there's an entryway
for the virus to get into the body. So I
understand his theory, but like... So he's calling it anal douche,
which it's just like an enema though, whatever. So his
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are two douches for $ 26. 99, which is a lot of money.
Like if you have sex multiple times a week, right?
Whereas like a flea enema from Walgreens or Walgreens brand,
you could get two for $ 3. 98. So.
I don't, I don't really understand why his has to
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be like so expensive. It's like for, it's for like, yeah,
it's for like the, those, those rich gay boys, I guess.
I don't know, but he's taking advantage of the fact
and it's a 20. So $ 27 for the beginner dilator
dilator set. Oh no, that's, $ 40, actually. No, it's $ 39. 99
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for the dilator.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah. And $ 26. 99 for either a reusable or a one-time-use
anal douche kit.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
So, interesting. Well, I don't know. I mean, like, I
do understand the point of trying... In theory, it would
be better to use the other solution that... He's like a.
He's an anal surgeon. Yeah. So, he.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
If there's an increase in anal sex, let's make products
that can make it a little more safe for people,
even if they are very pricey.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
It's just bizarre. Again, talking about my dad's lifetime and stuff,
I feel like it was probably a huge shocker to
start selling condoms in a drugstore where people could see them.
And now you're like, oh, we're just full-blown dildo aisle here.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And this is why he doesn't listen to our quote
X-rated show.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You know what, though? I do like where it is going, though.
Because as you know, as I know, the rectal foreign bodies,
it's happening whether you want it to or not. And
people are getting them stuck and having to go to
the hospital. So if they buy the proper thing... especially
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like it is kind of embarrassing to go to like
a dildo store, right?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Like if you're just like, I actually don't think many
people are embarrassed to go there.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's weird. I don't like, I would feel much more
comfortable going to Walgreens and just like checking myself out
and not having an interaction with an employee. Like if
I was going to do something like that. But I mean,
that to me is the whole thing when, when men
are getting these things stuck up inside them, that they're
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embarrassed to buy them, right?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, and tis the season for Christmas tree-shaped objects to
be coming out, which you guys send us a million times.
It's prime ER season for things getting stuck up people's butts.
All right. Somebody at a city council meeting in L.A.
seriously proposed having, quote, sex huts for the homeless to
have sex. Well....
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, it's not like they made sure to say that
this isn't under consideration as of right now. Someone just
made it up. So I don't know. You can go
back and forth on it because all of these people
are homeless and they're jerking off all over the place
and having sex with each other all over the place,
like in public, in front of children, on the street,
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when you're just driving to the store, you're trying to
have a nice Friday night going out to dinner with
your wife and you like anything. So- They want to
make these tents for people to go handle their business in.
I just think that it would be a terrible idea. First,
it's just gross.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I just don't think they're going to use them. They're
not going to care.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, but even if they did, then it's like, well,
what's going on in there? People can get sexually assaulted
in there. It's just like, I don't know. Not that
they can't get sexually assaulted anywhere, but I just think...
I understand that this person is bringing this up at
a city council meeting because... if I lived in LA
in a $ 2 million house and I was walking my
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kids to the bus stop for school, I certainly would
not want them to see somebody jerking off. You know,
like I would be like, can't we put them somewhere
that we don't have to look at this? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah. But you have the thought, can't you put them somewhere?
But guess what? They don't care. They're still just going
to do it wherever. Like I don't see, like maybe 5%
of them will go and use these, what they called
them were quote sexual relief clinics.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
So, OK, like you're going to.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Put a little tent up for them to do it
in there like they're not going to do that. They're
just not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Get a life.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And they said everybody was horrified at the meeting that
it even came up because, of course, it's like taxpayer
dollars paying for this and everybody was like not having it.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like I do. I
do see why they want it put away, though, honestly, like.
Like I'm saying, I wouldn't have problems spending my taxpayer
money if it was making that kind of stuff go away.
I would more be like spend my money to get
them completely out of here, but whatever. We are currently
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having a crisis where men are jacking off on women
at a Dollar Tree and now a Ross? Do you
think we're going to be able to have homeless people
go into designated tents to do it? Also, breaking news.
I don't know if you saw my story today, but
the serial butt sniffer is back again, which you're just
kind of like, I understand that he's not, I mean,
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he's not even technically sexually assaulting someone. This is now
the third or fourth time just on our show that
we've covered that this guy is sticking his head Like
you'll be at Barnes and Noble looking at a book
and all of a sudden this guy is like in
between your legs sniffing your butt. I mean, it's just like,
I don't know what you do with a person like that.
The good thing is he has Shrek ears.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
So I feel he's kind of easy to like recognize
in public. So I guess if you see him just like,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I'd go up to him and be like, Hey, can
I get a selfie with you?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I guess my question is though, like if he's sniffing
your butt and then you beat him up, do you
get in trouble for it?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Oh, I'm sure you will. you'll probably get in more
trouble than he got for all four offenses because.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Like i could see if that was happening to me
like kicking somebody in the face and just like running
away but i don't know it's just so ridiculous all
right on to your questions or emails if you have
a story for us please submit them to stories at
mother knows death.com first is from courtney after hearing nicole
mention it for the second time i have to say
something now Well, let me tell you, I thought this
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was going in a negative direction.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
It was one of my hate. I thought it was
going to be a nasty gram.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
The comment about being at the dentist and then putting
the tools on the chest. That's exactly what my childhood
dentist did to me for every visit. This is something
I had completely forgotten about until I heard Nicole mention
it on another episode. It instantly unlocked in my brain
and I really had to think, oh, yeah, that's not normal,
is it? He was a family dentist for years. I
probably went to him for 7 plus years between 1994
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and 2001 until I moved on to an orthodontist for braces.
I don't recall anything sticking out or happening but the
part that grosses me out and makes me wonder why
perhaps is I developed really young. I have also always
been plus size so that gave me an extra on top.
I remember refusing wearing a bra until I was about
10 or 11. That was right in the prime time
of seeing him and that makes me super uncomfortable. I
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probably would have never thought about it if you guys
hadn't talked about it. Crazy and gross to think how
many others over the years of his practice might have
been affected. Old men are gross.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, that is really upsetting. Sorry that happened to you.
That's horrible.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
It is.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Because you don't... You're just kind of like.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
And.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Are you reading that other story that goes along with
this today? Yeah. Okay. So we have another story today.
That's equally, maybe something happened to you as, as a child.
And then somebody else says a similar kind of story.
And then you're like, wait a second, this happened to me.
And in hindsight, cause it's not, it's not like blatant.
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The person took you into a room and, and, and
like penetrated you.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Like, but it's still assault, but, but it's still assault.
And you're kind of like, and yeah, in hindsight, you
look at it and you're like, wait a second. Like
I was a teenage girl. Like, how would I feel if,
if my husband was doing, was a dentist and was
doing that, like you'd be horrified. And that's really all
you have to do is just put that man in
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another situation. And, you know, with, with one of your,
your father or your, husband or your brother or something
and be like, would this be appropriate? And then all
of a sudden you'll quickly realize it's not.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
All right, next is from Anonymous. You all were just
discussing gross things happening during medical procedures. I'd like your opinion.
For many years, I had a quote, dad type of
male gynecologist who I loved and trusted and many of
my girlfriends saw. He always saw me with a female
nurse and the office dog in the exam room. Then
he retired and I didn't bother to find a new GYN.
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A few years after, I had a male general practitioner
that I adored and trusted. He was young, professional, and
very approachable. He and his wife both worked at the
same family practice. I went to him for my annual physical.
I was a little surprised when I saw him in
the exam room. His appearance had changed drastically. He'd grown
his hair out and was wearing hemp necklaces and beaded bracelets.
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I chuckled to myself and thought,' Must be a midlife crisis.'
He reminded me I was overdue for a pap, and
he'd complained that his wife took all the paps and
internal exams. I was used to a male GYN, so
I said he could perform the pap and exam no problem.
He performed the exam with only he and I in
the room. Once the exam was over, I realized he
was not wearing gloves. Serious hand that rocked the cradle vibes.
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I told my mom as soon as I left the office.
She's old school and wasn't sure it was something to
think twice about. The next time I saw him a
few months later for something like a strep test, he
told me him and his wife were separated. Soon after that,
they both left to practice and moved to another state.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Icky? Just a lapse in protocol due to being distracted
in his personal life? Are gloves protocol?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
So-so. Love your show.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I'm originally from Central PA and at the same age
as you, Nicole. Your darling accents are so comforting to me.
Keep the episodes coming.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, I would say, especially since you're my age, that gloves,
I mean, gloves have been a thing for a very
long time. So, yes, it was completely inappropriate. And I
almost wonder, like, where that was going. I feel like
his comment was kind of weird. Am I listening to
(52:36):
that right? That he said he was complaining because his
wife was taking all the paps away from him and
the exams? Or were they just... I don't really understand
that comment of it. Or was it in regards to
like the, the tools that are used to do it?
(52:58):
I'm not sure, but if he would, it says.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
He complained that his wife took all the paps and
internal exams.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah. Like that's weird to me. Cause why would, I mean,
if you're a physician, I understand that you, you know,
it's just like in my field, I prefer doing an
autopsy instead of surgical pathology or whatever. Like I understand
you prefer things, but like, I feel like it's a
little bizarre for a man to be like, oh, my, like,
(53:26):
I can't do paps anymore. Like, really? That's weird. Like, furthermore,
you're still making money and working here. Like, why is he.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Telling you he's separated? Like, his personal life is none
of your business.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, it is. It's very weird. So and then just
to see that, like, he put his hands in your
vagina without gloves on is bizarre. Yeah. No, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Like, I don't think that's a distraction. I mean, don't
you think it's just muscle memory at that point? Yeah,
there absolutely is not.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Especially for him as a physician, you know, you do
still have to be worried about getting a transmissible infection.
You know, like, you have cuts on your hand, whatever. Like,
you just don't want to be touching a patient and
their body fluids and potentially blood you know, when you
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do a pap, sometimes a person can bleed or they
could have their period or something like there's absolutely no
reason that, you know, I think a doctor, it's okay
if a doctor touches you without gloves to like check
your thyroid and look for lymph nodes in your neck
and things like that. But like, yeah, like in your,
on your genitals and stuff, it's just, it's completely inappropriate.
(54:42):
And one other thing I want to say is that
I wonder why they're getting divorced and I wonder why
they moved to another state and if something similar like
this happened and perhaps maybe she was getting divorced because
of him inappropriately touching another female patient and maybe him
having to go get a license in another state to
try to circumvent any of those accusations. So If you
(55:06):
remember his name, I just, like... There's nothing you can
do about it now, I don't think. But I feel
like you should just search it out and see, like,
if anything comes up with that. Because I wouldn't be
surprised if it did. Because that's just really bizarre.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
I don't think I'd want to go to a doctor
wearing beaded bracelets.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
And have necklaces either. So, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
This is really shitty. And I'm sorry you were put
in that position. That's not cool.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, it really is. It's really upsetting. Because I... Like,
what do you even do in that situation? Like, that's
just so gross. It's just gross. It really is.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
All right, last is from Kelly. I want to tell
you that I'm such a big fan of Mother Knows Death,
The Gross Room, and all the content you share. I'm
constantly sharing your stories, sometimes with my closest friends, and
sometimes with random acquaintances who probably don't appreciate them nearly
as much.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
As they should.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Honestly, I've accepted my role as that girl who always
has a weird health.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Phenomenon queued up.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Thanks for keeping things hilarious and unreasonably relatable every single day.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Aw, thank you.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Well, that was very sweet, and thank you. And I
find it funny you telling totally random people these outrageous stories.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I do. You want to hear something funny? So, my neighbor...
My neighbors and I have a group text. I've talked
about this before. And.
Most a couple of my neighbors are like my age.
There's two couples that are like you and Ricky's age.
And then there's like the old people.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
So there's like a variety around here. And someone wrote
in the text, like, does anyone have feta cheese? I
could like I need it right now for this recipe
I'm making. And but they instead of putting feta, they
like mistyped and put fetal fetal cheese.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
So then it was like this big joke back and forth.
And then I was like, well. Actually, when a baby's born,
they're covered in this cheesy substance. And it's actually called
vernix caseosum. And that just means like waxy cheese kind of.
And they were just like laughing. I'm like, I always
have like some weird... medical fact to throw into a conversation.
(57:14):
So I was like, there is actually a thing called
fetal cheese. I know.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
I love when I'm talking to someone and they go,
this might be TMI. And I was like, I'll stop
you right there. I don't think you knew how I
grew up. And I'm a chronic oversharer, so I don't
think anything is TMI.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah. Nobody's ever told me anything that I've been like, okay,
that was too much. Yeah, I don't think so either.
I can't think of anything that you're like, I'm like,
I've heard everything.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
Sometimes I'm like, I wouldn't have shared that with somebody else. Oh, yeah.
But like, it's not like something I've never heard before.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
If I had a way, like if we were listening
to a show like this, though, and I had a
way to message in and just be like, you know,
maybe don't use my first name, I would share, you know,
more like that probably.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, we just had an anonymous
story today.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
We don't have to use your name. We respect it
if you ask us not to share your name or details. Like,
anyone's going to know the name Jen. It's like, ooh,
that Jen. Unless you have a super unique name. You
don't know.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Because somebody could put pieces together from a story, so
you don't want to rat yourself out. All right, guys,
please head over to Apple or Spotify and leave us
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forget to submit your stories to stories at motherknowsdeath.com.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
See you guys. Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my
website and social media accounts are designed to educate and
inform people based on my experience working in pathology so
they can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well-being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge
of those subjects at the time of publication. If you
are having a medical problem, have a medical question, or
are having a medical emergency, please contact your physician or
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