04-09-24 FULL SHOW - More Clown Moves from the Colorado GOP Leadership

Episode Transcript

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Ontoday's show, we have a long conversation
with Kelly Maher about the disaster thatis the GOP leadership situation under Dave Williams.
Then we talk about Trump's announcement thathe's not going to push for a
federal abortion ban and it's a statesrights issue, plus a whole bunch of
other this and that and things andwhatnot. So stick around and hear it

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all. Let's do the blog.Find it at mandy'sblog dot com. Look
for the headline four nine twenty fourblog More clown moves from the Colorado GOP
leadership. Click on that and hereare the headlines you will find with him
in office, South of American Armershipsand clipment of state that press plat today
on the blog one more thing abouthow bad the Colorado GOP leadership is.

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Kelly Maher is asking for answers fromthe FEC. Where do Trump pro lifers
go? Now? Democrats demand agroup. Drop Democrats from their name.
First, pickles Now they got buttercupscrolling? How long before something serious gets
burned out? The NAIA bans,men from women's sports use cash to buy

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guns and Ammo now no, Excelwon't pay for your spoiled food. Do
we need more public sector union workers? Younger adults are aging faster. I'm
no wolf fan, but this isdisgusting. If living forever means a boring
life, is it worth it?Evs are losing ground with the public.
How NPR lost its way? Taitepays up on one lawsuit. MLB teams

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by weight is where the Rockies reallyshine. The view invites Trump the photo
of a lifetime. He is ironMan. The sun will someday eat our
solar system. I hate what thisgirl does on TikTok. This is just
the first expensive part of having akid. How to get out of a
creative block loop, the Pinocchio paradox, and advice for younger people and high

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diving on a cruise ship is athing. Those are the headlines on the
blog mandy'sblog dot com. And ifyou guys love cruising? Uh oh,
uh oh, this doesn't sound good? What's not? What's gone wrong?
Really quick? What happened the lateedition? Uh oh? November twenty twenty
two, great Mandy Connor listener Russellgave me a free treadmill. Oh no,

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Treddy at Treddy. Treddy has died, gone to the big treadmill,
is what happened? Well, Iworked out just fine on it this morning.
Yeah, okay, now my wayto work. I got a call
from the wife and it takes downthe whole garage breaker. Oh my god.
She goes and resets it. Shegoes back, takes down the whole

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breaker again. Okay, something's weird. Hopefully it's not the breaker. So
I'm thinking it's the treadmill because it'sthe techn there. She goes to plug
it in in a different outlet inthe garage smoke. Oh, a little
bit of the side like not nottrading, but the treadmills. The treadmill's
gone, Treddy. You were good. You were good. You're a faithful

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treadmill. I'm an I'm need anothertreadill for a year and a half.
All you have to do is goto Facebook marketplace. There's a kinds of
thing and that's the worst. Well, do you have a large item pickup
day for your trash pick up largeitem? Yeah, spring cleaning one.
I don't know if they'll do thatlarge of an item. Well with ours,
with our trash company, you cancall and say, can I schedule

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a large item pickup and they willlet you do that, But then they
have large item pickups like once everyfew months where they just you just put
it out with your trash. Itwas such a good tread and they'll have
the nice incline. It was huge. It was free because our Mandy Connor
listener Russell is awesome. I know, I know, year and a half
of greatness. So I had togive a little little little shout out,
yeah, yeah, cruises, yeah, cruises, because how many days saw

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your cruiser? So I love cruising. I am one of those people.
I have been on cruises on bigship, small ships, everything in between.
I prefer smaller ships. That's justmy thing when we go with kids,
though oftentimes we go on these ona giant ship. But this ship
they now have diving on the backof a damn ship, not into the
ocean, but into a tiny pool. These people are crazy. Did you

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watch this video? Yeah? No, no, hell no. I don't
love heights, but I'm not liketerrified of heights. But there's no way
I could stand on the end ofa little platform looking down at that and
then purposely hurl myself off of it. Death wish. Seriously, speaking of
death wishes, the Colorado Republican Partyhas one ooh bing see what I did

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there, Seckway nice, Yeah,that was very good. And David Williams,
who I'm sure is also running theTwitter feed, is demonstrating his ineptitude
and incompetence left and right. Butwe'll get to that in a little bit.
I do want to kind of startwith this thing. I find this
story kind of interesting. And isit the biggest overarching story of the day.

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No, it's not. But foryears, for all of my young
adult years, the Democratic Party alwayspresented themselves as their true big tent party.
And I know both Republican parties liketo say we're the big tent.
No, Wh're the big tent.But when I was young, when I
was in my twenties and thirties,well into my forties, the Republican Party

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always felt more diverse to me,And even as I moved into a more
conservative mindset and sphere, they alwaysfelt more diverse to me. And as
far as diversity goes, I meanin terms of ethnicities, I don't think
you could argue that the Republican Partyis as diverse as the Democratic Party.
Is that being said, As theyhave gained power, they have become less

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and less tolerant of dissent in theirranks, and now they are actively working
in Colorado to kick out and subvertanyone who does not towe the company line,
especially when it comes to transactivism.Rich Guggenheim, it was on the
show yesterday, is a perfect example. Rich consistently gets called some right wing

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wacko. He's not only a registeredDemocrat, he's a Democratic district committee member,
he's an active Democrat. But becauseRich dares to stand with gays,
against groomors, against the sexualization ofchildren, he is being They're trying to
excommunicate people like Rich out of theparty. And case in point, there's
an organization I've never heard of beforein my life called Democrats for an Informed

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Approach to Gender. Now, whatthis organization wants to do is make sure
that before any interventions medically are given, that people getting those interventions clearly understand
the truth about the science behind genderaffirming care. And I don't know if
you guys saw this, but theMayo Clinic just finished a big study that

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showed that little boys who are givenpuberty blockers before puberty, their testees actually
atrophy and that cannot be reversed.So the notion that somehow puberty blockers are
a temporary answer to this bigger problemis a lie. And yet you know,
parents are not being told that theseare irreversible. Parents are not being

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told that they do permanent damage tothe sexual health of the child that are
being given them. They're not toldany of this stuff. And it's crazy.
It's absolutely crazy. So Democrats foran Informed Approach to Gender wants to
change that. They want to bringthe bad science to the forefront. They
don't want children to be given genderaffirming care because we all believe reasonably that

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children cannot consent to a permanent,life altering decision like that. They cannot.
That's why we don't let them getface tattoos, right, That's why
we don't let them enter into contractsor get credit cards. There's a reason
we don't let children do all ofthese things. And yet we're supposed to
believe that a three year old whowants to play with dolls is just telling

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us that he's really transgender and justa girl. So Democrats for an Informed
Approach to genderer, if you goto their website and went to their website
today and they talk of I mean, everything they present is presented about the
science. This is not being antitrands. This isn't about being transphobic.

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This is about talking about the actualscience, about the fact that most nations
in Europe have turned their back ongender affirming care for children because it's just
an experiment. We don't have longterm studies on any of this stuff,
and we are making lifetime medical patientsout of children. And so they're like,

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look, we just want to makesure that the right information is getting
out there and that people are giventhe proper information so they can make a
good decision even in adulthood. Wewant to make sure that they have the
long term information that helps them understandthat these changes are irreversible. It's a
very noble organization, and if therewas true discussion within the Democratic Party,

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there would be a lot of peoplesaying, you know what, we definitely,
we definitely should look at this becausewhat are we doing to these kids
when we don't know the long termramifications. So the Democratic Party in Colorado
is demanding that this organization changed itsname. Demanding, not asking nicely,

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not saying, hey, we disagreewith this position they are demanding. They
are describing this organization as dangerous anddisturbing, and they demand that they cease
using the word Democrats in its name. The chair of the Democratic Party also
made a similar call. Now,I want you to do I want you

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to hear what Jamie ray Is,chair of the Democratic Party of Denver,
said, I want to make clearthat the Democratic Party of Denver is not
associated in any way with groups suchas the so called Democrats for an Informed
Approach to gender. Excuse use mefurther, these groups are not authorized to
use the moniker Democrats, and Icall upon this group and others like it

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to immediately cease the unauthorized use ofthe term Democrats in their organization's name.
Yeah no, No. Colorado Democraticpart Chair Shad marieb said, out West,
we live and let live, andwe fight for our friends and family.
Our transgender community members deserve the samesafety and welcome in the Democratic Party

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as anyone else. And I callon this viciously anti trans organization to cease
use of our party name to supporttheir hate filled agenda. Transphobia has no
place in the Colorado Democratic Party.To our trands and non binary members of
our community. We echo President Biden'swords from his twenty twenty four proclamation on

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Transgender Day of Visibility. You areloved, you are heard, you are
understood, You belong. So ifyou are a Democrat or left leaning person,
you are not welcome in the DemocraticParty. If you don't believe that
we should be giving children permanently alteringmedical treatments before they're old enough to even

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understand what that is, you're notwelcome there, not at all. And
you know, they may have diversityof ethnicity in the Democratic Party, but
they're certainly not welcome to diversity ofthought. Now in the Republican Party currently,
we have log Cabin Republicans, wehave Hispanic Republicans, we have Black

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Republicans, and we have Publican Republicansthat are staunchly pro life. And yes,
we have Republicans who are pro choice. We have Republicans that are pro
life but understand that abortion is anunfortunate fact of life and that if we
simply outlaw it then people will stillseek it out and endanger themselves. At
the same time, there's all kindsof different Republicans, and though people like

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David Williams in the coloradop love apurity test where they get to be the
deciders of whether or not you're pureenough in your thoughts to be part of
their little club. That is notindicative of the larger Republican Party. And
now President Trump has come out andsaid, look, you know what,
I'm pro life, but I thinkthere should be exceptions for rape and incest

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in the life of the mother,and I hope people do the right thing
on that. So there's a lotmore diversity of thought than there is in
the Democratic Party. Because even ifyou're a Democrat who believes in Colorado that
there should be limits on abortion,maybe we shouldn't allow abortion up to the
day of birth like we do now. And every time I say that,
somebody sends me a text message islike, that's not true. Yes it

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is. You can walk up there'sa doctor in Boulder that you can be
the day before your due date.You can walk in and say I don't
want to have this baby, andhe's going to terminate that pregnancy and kill
that baby. It is elective.It is on demand until the moment of
birth and call Dolrado and before yousend a text message find me a law

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that says otherwise. But I'm surethey're Democrats in Colorado that find that position
disgusting. You can be a personwho says, you know what, maybe
women deserve the right to choose,but there has to be a limit on
when they choose, and we can'tbe cutting up fully formed babies in the
womb that we injected with potassium chloride. This is what they do, by

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the way, in a third termpregnancy. They inject it with the same
medicine they use on murderers in deathrow. They inject them and then they
dismember them before pulling them out.That's what a late term abortion is.
Surely there are Democrats in Colorado thatwould support a ban on late term abortion,
But do you ever hear them sayit? No, because they would
be excommunicated from the Democratic Party.It's you know, it's kind of crazy.

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But the notion that they can dictateto these people what they can call
themselves, they don't have a treeon the word democrats. And if this
organization is made up of people fromthe Democratic Party who are trying to affect
real change as members or former membersof the Democratic Party, then the Democratic
Party can go pound sand. Butthe most interesting thing about this whole thing

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is when you look at the pollingdata on things like protecting women's sports,
it is not even close that Americanswant to see women's sports protected from boys
who have decided their girls and wantto play in women's sports. It's not
even close. And even as theythink that people who are struggling with gender
dysmorphia or believe they are trands needto be treated with care and dignity,

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there are limits to that. AndI think the Democratic Party is out over
its skis on this in a waythat is going to end up biting him
in the butt. I'm just saying, just see, somebody just said this,
this is what I'm talking about.Why don't you find me an example
and how we can have any abortionthe day before their due date? Where

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am I going to find that?Where am I going to find that?
I don't have access to people's medicalrecords. That's just a dumb ass comment.
The fact of the matter is itis legal in Colorado to do so,
one hundred percent legal to do so. And if that doesn't make you
feel ghoulish and disgusting, then Ican't help you. I truly can't help

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you. It's legal, find meanything that says it's not. And if
nobody does it, then why isit legal? Why don't we just go
ahead and ban it if nobody doesit. This happens every time I mentioned
the fact that in Colorado you canterminate a pregnancy up until the day of
the moment of birth, and theysent me a PolitiFact, which is laughable

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if you know how ridiculously biased thesethings are. But they didn't even read
the article. The PolitiFact article saysthat Jared Polus signed a bill that codified
already existing state statutes into law.They were already existed. In the article
that they clearly did not read,it actually says that it doesn't do anything

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or address any part of when anabortion can be performed. And I want
to share this with you about lateterm abortions because then they throw out less
than one percent of abortions they're thatlate term and there medically necessary. I
direct you to the Boulder abortion clinicthat does third trimester abortions, and I
want to read this from the website. Okay, and remember words matter,

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word choice matters. It says thirdtrimester abortion patients coming in for a later
abortion. Twenty eight weeks and overare often seeking services for termination of a
desired pregnancy that has developed serious complications. Now, the word often is the
key there. If they were onlydone for medically necessary reasons, that word

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often would not be necessary. Andif you think that that word is there,
just willy nilly, you've lost yourmind. In Colorado, there are
no restrictions on when you can aborta baby, period period. So this
person actually said once again terbidating apregnancy when the fetus is viable outside the

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woob is illegal. No, it'snot. It's not even remotely illegal.
Also, abortions after thirty two weeksor less than one percent of abortions,
that they are medically necessary. Butare they? And sometimes medically necessary is
because quote the mother's mental health wasthe medically necessary thing. She was so

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distraught about the thought of having tohave a baby that she'd been caring for
twenty eight weeks or more, thatthey do the abortion for her mental health
and call it a medically necessary reason. I'm not making stuff up. I
mean, this is all stuff thatis pretty well documented, maybe not in
the Boulder clinic, but you needto look at those words. You need

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to read those words carefully. Whyis the word often in there? Why
isn't always in there? Or justparents seeking an abortion are here because of,
you know, a problem with thepregnancy. Why doesn't you say that?
Because that's not true and they knowit's not true. So here we

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go. That's the same discussion onemore time again. In Colorado, you
can have an abortion until the momentof birth. And as a matter of
fact, there is a ballot initiativecurrently gathering signatures that is trying to codify
that into our constitution that no limitson abortion can ever be put on any
abortion in Colorado ever, and theywant to put in the constitution. So

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save your little grand standing just becauseyou've decided that you're on the side of
death and you don't feel good aboutit when someone points out how gorulish your
position is. That's not my responsibility, It truly isn't. In Colorado,
there were one hundred and eighteen abortionsafter twenty eight weeks per the Loisure Institute,
one hundred and one hundred and eighteenfully formed babies that were capable of

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living outside the womb who were systematicallydismantled in the womb and pulled out in
parts one hundred and eighteen. Sothat's a number you're okay with, Texter.
There you go. There you haveit anyway, not moving We're moving
on with that. You guys haveterrible news, terrible terrible news. First,
they got Pickles, the adorable,fuzzy, cute, little baby cow

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that was ripped away and dismantled bya wolf that was reintroduced by liberals on
the Front Range who decided that havinglittle baby cows destroyed and painfully dismembered by
wolves was a good idea. Andnow a rod. They got Buttercup.
They got Buttercup in Jackson County.It's true, Buttercup is the second baby

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cow. I bet Buttercup was evencuter than Pickles. You know, Pickles
was cute, but I mean whenyou name a cow Buttercup, it's like
the cutest cow ever, the kindof cow you want to just invite in
your house, you know, Comeon in, Buttercup. Oh, I'm
sorry you can't because your legs wereripped out by a wolf. How many
little baby cows have to be sacrificedto the ideals of these wackadooda liberals who

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never have to live with the consequencesof their actions ever ever. So rip
Pickles, rip Buttercup, and I'msure the carnage is going to continue.
By the way, I'm going tokeep naming these baby cows as more of
them get killed. So if youwant to suggest a name for a baby
cow in the future, Pickles andButtercup, obviously rip. They've been taken

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both literally and metaphorically. If youhave a name for a baby cow that
is surely going to be slaughtered bythese wolves, please text it into five
six six nine oh the common Spirithealth text line stupid question alert. Yes
were there and how many if so? Wolves were there? Before this reintroduction?
There was one pack on the westernslope that we know of, but

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I'm not sure that there was morethan like eight or ten of those wolves.
I'm not sure they had come downfrom Wyoming. And then now we've
introduced like twelve more. They're allhaving babies this spring. And here's the
kicker. The wolves that were releasedare all collared. So we know,
we know that one of those wolvesthat was released killed Buttercup and killed Pickles,
we know, but their babies arenot going to be collared. So

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as the population grows, they're tryingto bring in fifty or sixty more wolves.
I say, only bring them inif you put them in Civic Center
Park and remind those naive out theredefinitely not named a rod, remind them
in thirty seconds. Why did theydo this thing? Because liberals were like,
you know what, it's the psychaof life and wolves used to be
here, and so we should bringwolves back because wolves were used to be

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here and they and then they're nothere anymore, so we should bring it
back. But not where we live. Yeah, not where we live,
only on the western part of thething. So totally exaggerated version of but
did we learn nothing from bringing backextinct things from a certain movie called Jurassic
Park? Something's gone, you probablyshould let it be gone. Do you

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know they're trying to bring back woolymammoth? Right? Yeah, I did.
What could go wrong? What couldgo wrong? What could go wrong?
As if evolution and just the historyof life has just not decided that
week and we're above that. It'sfine, We're god. Oh I love
some of these cow names. They'regoing to be delightful. Butternuts patches Norman

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when Norman goes down, you know, all hell's breaking loose. Oh,
I won't stand for Norman, noElsie Bamby. Well that's a little,
that's a little, you know,gender switching on Bamby or species switching.
I guess I'm writing these down.By the way, this person said we
need a pickles pool. How manyyou know what? That's a really good
question because right now it's calving season, so obviously baby cows are easier to

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bring down than big cows. Iwonder how many? What do we think
the over under is going to be? I say, I say, I
say ten until the end of summer. Oh, I'll go over ten.
You're going over. You're taking theover on ten. And these are the
ones we have to hear about,which I assume will be all of them.
Yep of them. Oh gosh.This person obviously is named a lot

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of cows. Dopey, daffy,ash uh, fuzzy, lovely. Oh,
they have named a lot of cows. This is like a cow name
and machine. Here cookie biscuit.I'm writing all these downs, so we
have a big list. I hopewe don't need this many names, but
we might. We need we needbeefcake for a big one. Beefcake.

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Oh yeah, beefcake. All thatthat sounds like that's his destiny. Sweet
Pea, Sweet Pea, I likethat one. All of these are horrible
Sprinkles, Ginger, Daisy, Lulu, Bubba. These people have named cows.
Yeah, when Bubba goes all hellbreaks loose on the front range.

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I'm just saying, yeah, I'mdoing this because you know that the governor
wanted to name the wolves and gotall these school children to name the wolves.
Well, what about their victims?You know? Are are we putting
too much emphasis on the on themurderers and not enough on the victims.
I'm just saying. Daisy is oneof my fan favorites. By the way,
I had a dog named Daisy.Daisy May Beefykins. Oh my gosh,

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you guys, these are coming intoo fast. Ay Rod, start
writing at Sweet Pea and go up. I got Sprinkles, Daisy, Lulo,
and Bubba. So you got Peanut, Taco, Marlin, Beefykins,
Bessie Cackard. Yeah, I thinkwe're good. I think we're good.
We shall see. They're all they'reall going to be dead though, they're

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all dead, right, p Buttercup. I cannot tell you how many people
hit the text ligne and said,we can name we should name the wolves
baby Jared, so it'll it'll havea big impact I have. I'm not
exaggerating thirty names of baby cows thatwe're just going to keep an eye on.
Rip Pickles, Rip Buttercup was niceknowing you, and unfortunately the liberals

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in the front range hate you somuch that they introduced your apex predator real
quick. This story is kind ofinteresting. If you don't follow Do Better
Denver on either Instagram or Twitter,you truly are missing out on an organization
that is now crowdsourced, where nowpeople are just sending in videos of the
trash that has become Denver from allover the city. And the reason I

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want to support this this what's theword this effort that Do Better Denvers put
together is not because I believe inexploiting drug addicts and people who are suffering
from obviously severe mental illness. It'sbecause I believe that the only way to
affect real change is to continue topublicize these pictures and these videos. And

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yesterday or the day before, itwas a day before Do Better Denver had
a video of a fire at Fifthand Federal started by homeless people. Now,
I don't know if you remembered whatthe wind was like a few days
ago, but any fire, anyopen fire in that kind of wind,
is a recipe before disaster. Andif I started a fire in my backyard
just because I wanted to roast marshmallows, I would First of all, I

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have a neighbor. If I grilltoo much and he sees too much smoke,
he calls the fire department. Ican't tell you how many times the
fire department has been at my houseand they're like, cause there. I'm
like, well, I'm I'm cookingsteaks. I got some juicy broughtworst on
the grill and it's stripping. Ididn't realize there's gonna be such a problem.
But if I did that, thenthere would be all hell to pay.
But Mike Johnston has said, youknow what, warming and cooking fires

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are okay. They're okay. Andthis is among a group of people who
are not. Let's just be real. No matter how much compassion you have
for the homeless, they're not thebest decision makers, right, They're not.
They don't use a lot of gooddecision making skills, or they wouldn't
be living under an overpass. AndDenver sent this out and I thought to

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myself, here we are talking aboutXL Energy shutting down power to tens of
thousands of people because they didn't wantto be liable if one of their downpower
lines started a fire. Now here'sthe thing, you guys, and this
is about the food spoilage, becauseExcel Energy has a monopoly on energy,

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and we are captive. If youlive in the Exo Energy area, you
are captive to that power company,right. And because they shut off energy
for multiple days, they shut offpower for multiple days because they wanted to
protect themselves from liability. And let'sbe real. They can say they were
worried about fires, but the realityis they're only worried about fires because then

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they're going to be held responsible forthem. Okay, But if they're doing
that to protect their bottom line,which by the way, I have no
problem with that. They're a publiclytraded company. They have to protect their
bottom line, they have to protecttheir shareholders. But because they're a monopoly
and you can't shop around, Ithink it would be very reasonable for the

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Colorado legislature to say, if you'regoing to do this to protect yourself from
liability, you are going to assumesome responsibility for lost food, whether it's
by the pound, whatever, BecauseI gotta tell you, if you have
two freezers full of meat, that'sseveral thousand dollars to replenish that. If
you're a hunter, that can't bereplenished very easily. So all of these

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things, I mean, it's I'mglad they're protecting their shareholders. I'm glad
they're protecting their bottom line, butit's not unreasonable because they enjoy a monopoly
for us to say you need tohave responsibility for the choices that you make
and the negative impact that it hason the people that you serve. Now,
if we want to open it upto other power companies, figure out
a way to bust the monopoly andbring real competition into the system, then

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I would say, no way,we wouldn't do that, because then you'd
be able to shop and go toa company who says, number one,
we're not going to turn your poweroff. Number Two, if we do,
we're gonna pay for the spoiled food. But you don't have that ability.
So yeah, I'd be for somethinglike that. But you know we
can do what we want. UhNo, we're not going to name the
little calves after vegetables. We're notgonna have little broccoli and little Brussels sprouts

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because then no one would be sadwhen they died. They have to have
adorable names like lovely Cookie, Biscuit, Beefcake, sweet Pea sprinkles, ginger
Daisy. You're getting the drift asthey're ruthlessly murdered by wolves when we get
back. Speaking of ruthlessly, no, I'm just kidding. Kelly Maher's in

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the studio, although she has gother bee, isn't a bonnet right now?
There's a bee in her bonnet andwe're going to talk about it because
we've got to fix the Colorado leadershipof the Colorado GOP. It must happen.
More on that in just a moment. My friend and fellow angry Republican,
Kelly Maher is in the studio.May I call you that? Or
should we start talking about goats andwallabi? Okay, so I'm not actually

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angry. I'm pretty happy. It'sa great day. I'll be angry for
you. I had the most funyesterday arguing with the Colorado GOP account.
And let's be real, somebody sentme that another Darcy is running the Twitter
account. I don't believe it thatDavid Williams is running that Twitter account.
He's running everything him alone, withhis phone rocking back and forth. We'll

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talk about where his other hand iswhile he's doing this. So I'm okay,
do you appreciate that? Sorry,I'm sorry, I'm petty and small
rise above in through the nose,off through the mouth. Anyway. So
this past weekend at the Assembly,yes, another bit of stupidity and nonsense
comes out of the and I'm gonnacall leadership with air quotes around it,

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leadership of the GOP when they passeda resolution said, and I'm gonna this
is I'm gonna paraphrase. I'm notgoing to read the whole thing. It
just says we are only going tosupport the people that came to our assembly
because that means we don't have tosupport any other candidates that David Williams says
like, I mean, look,it's just more of Dave William's self dealing,
right, He went through the Assembly, so he wants justification in order

(31:07):
to use everything he's got at theState Party whatever's left of it that he
extorted out of presidential candidates for himself, which was, by the way,
the crux of my FEC complaint thatI filed last week, because we finally
got the reports back from the StateParty that they did, in fact spend
almost ten thousand dollars in printing andI think like six thousand dollars unmailing a

(31:32):
piece down into Dave William's congressional districtthat he created to attack his opponent,
and also, by the way,attack the Colorado Springs Gazette, which I
argue in my FEC complaint he didin retaliation for them endorsing his opponent,
calling them the never Trump newspaper,which is funny because they are the only

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major newspaper in twenty twenty that endorsedDonald Trump. That can't be right,
Kelly. Surely Dave Williams is notthat stupid oh never, But there's more
right and so and so what we'reseeing is we're seeing a lot of the
Dave Williams self dealing, and reallyit's all aimed at trying to get Trump

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to support him and trying to makesure that he's you know that he is
seen as the quote Maga candidate.But I keep saying this, Mandy,
that this isn't about Maga versus Rhinos, which is how Dave Williams keeps trying
to frame it. It is aboutDave Williams versus everyone else. He will
cannibalize the entire party for his ownmeans and to his own end. And

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I you know, Donald Trump,he's out, he's trying to win a
presidency. He's got a lot goingon. So if you just kind of
like do a surface look at Coloradoand you're like, oh, this guy's
maga ish, right, like DaveWilliams. But I think I think that
once President Trump learns about the factthat Dave Williams's only job, only job
outside of government, has been importingChinese crap, uh, He's gonna be

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like, oh, I don't knowthat's funny, Kelly, because we talked
about that on the show, andto my knowledge, Dave Williams has not
responded to the reports that, bythe way, we're called with accurate documentation
about what his company did and howmany shipments of Chinese crap they brought in.
He has never responded to the actualquestion of did you trade in Chinese

(33:30):
crap? Is your only job,right, I except to go fake news,
fake news, But but this isthe thing, right And then and
then he like like tries to pushit up in Trump world. He's like,
the rhinos are being mean to me, the writers are being mean to
me. As he is cannibalizing allof Trump's good will within Republican primary voters

(33:51):
for himself. Well, this ismy take, This is my take on
Dave Williams, because we already knowin twenty sixteen he was part of the
Republicans that walked out. He waspart of it. He was part of
that crew, his buddy. Yeah, he wasn't a cruise he was a
cruise guy. He was going towalk out and prevent Trump from getting the
nomination. And in twenty twenty hewas kicked off his voluntary role on the

(34:14):
Trump campaign for using Trump to tryand get a friend of his through a
difficult primary. So we already knowthose and then all of a sudden,
he's the Trumpiest Trumper around. He'sthat kid who is excommunicated from the cool
kids circuit. So he's going todo everything in his power to grovel and
beg and plead to be let backinto the cool kids circle. And he's

(34:35):
going to do whatever he can tomake that happen, which is the whole
Let's Go Brandon nonsense that he triedto get done. And now this I'm
super maga. He's not He hasnot been pro Trump since twenty sixteen.
He's not been pro Trump since twentytwenty when he used Trump's name for the
purposes of helping a friend. Andhe's doing the exact same thing now.
Yeah, well, and that's thething is, like Trump's got a lot

(34:58):
going on. Trump World is verybusy. I understand how they could look
at this and be like, oh, yeah, sure, this this guy,
yeah, this guy whatever. Butit's just funny to me that Dave
Williams and his response is like JeffCrank and Chinese, and I'm like,
hi, hypocrite. Yeah, Iwould not if I were Dave Williams.
I wouldn't again, not one moretime, because he pretends like he's America

(35:22):
first, and yet his only jobhas been importing Chinese crap. No,
wait, so there was no otherjob in the private sector except okay,
he was the manager of a movietheater. Respectable job, yep. I
mean I think in college when hewas somebody's got somebody's got to be in
charge of that, and that's aperfectly fine job. Yep. So the

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other thing that happened last weekend atthe Assembly was he threw out, yes,
Sandra fish right, who has beencovering Colorado politics since nineteen eighty two.
Yes, she seems to be avery nice lady. Do you know
Sandra Personal? I do know SandraPersonal. So what are your Well you're
a rhino though, so I'm notright. Here's the thing, I have

(36:07):
a very I have a ton ofrespect for Sandra. I don't know a
reporter in the state of Colorado whounderstands the processes, whether you're talking about
like very esoteric how to go throughtitle board, or right the disclosures look
like, or what the rules looklike. She's fought hard and long for

(36:28):
Sunshine and open records. She isshe can take complex and weird issues,
honestly, of surrounding government and distillthem very well. I don't I don't
think that the Colorado Sun is atall lefty like I do. I find
their editorial page to be left editorialpage, but they are old school enough

(36:52):
that they keep those separate right andthat and that is fine with me.
Just have somebody who calls balls andst and Dave Williams's issue is that because
Sandra Fish is such a good reporter, and she will lay out the case
for how he is self dealing andhow he is cannibalizing the Republican Party for

(37:14):
himself, and how he is usingall of these processes in order to try
to wreck the Republican Party and allthe other candidates of the Republican Party,
including but not limited to Donald Trumpfor his own means to become a congressman.
He didn't want her there because hedidn't want sunshine on the fact that

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it was shady, shady top tobottom, side to side. There are
a lot of people who were concernedabout voting machines. There were a lot
of people who are concerned about votingmethodologies, and Dave Williams capitalizes on that
when it is useful for him toinstill fear and concern in people, and
then when it comes back on himand he has to figure out the mechanisms

(38:00):
of actually conducting a vote, thenhe then he doesn't want anybody seeing that
because he realized that his whole Scantronthing fell apart that he tried to buy
off of eBay, and then hehad people. I mean, like I
wish I was kidding, Mandy,but I have spent twenty plus years of

(38:20):
my life as a Republican working totry to convince people that we actually have
some good ideas, and Dave Williamsis single handedly doing everything in his power
to try to set it on firein service of one thing, and that
is himself so he can sit onthe top of the ashes and be king

(38:42):
of the heap. Yeah, exactly. And you know what, I suspect
that we are going to get worseshould he be able to continue. Oh,
I agree, wholeheartedly agreed, becausewe've lost everything. This methodology is
successful. And by successful, Imean he gets his way and the Republican
Party doesn't do anything to push backon him, he will succeed. I

(39:05):
mean, right now, let's bereal, the Republican Party in Colorado is
in the wilderness for I don't knowten years minimum before I think we make
any kind of strides. It hasto be post Trump in Colorado. Outside
of the Republican Party, Trump isjust not popular. He's reviled, in
Colorado, and we are one ofthose states where you either love him or

(39:28):
he's reviled by you, and weneed party leadership that is focused on those
down ballot races. Do you knowif any candidate has received any support from
the state party other than David Williams. I mean, I haven't seen anything.
I really, I genuinely have notseen them do anything. Because he
has raised so little money, becausehe has lost trust with the kind of

(39:52):
people who have supported the party inthe past. Why would they give why
would they give state party money?Well, maybe because they don't want to
give him twelve thousand dollars for hisown consulting firm that he paid out of
the out of the campaign donation toconsult for himself. Yeah, right,
or the justification might I mean,look, I laid out in my FEC

(40:13):
complaint. It's on my Twitter,you tweeted it. I'm happy to share
it with anybody. I laid outI think really a really solid case as
to how this is really self dealing, and how this is Dave Williams using
the party for himself for his owncongressional race, and how he's doing it
to the detriment of everyone else.And he's so impotent and so pathetic that

(40:38):
he is just going to take everythingthat's left and burn it to the ground
in service for himself. So alsothe thing that happened this last week that
he's been touting on Twitter. Wheneveranybody complains about the party, he sends
out things like cry harder, Andhe's sent out this resolution that they decided

(41:01):
to only support candidates that appeared atthe Assembly, which is in clear violation
of the actual Colorado gop by laws. And so here's my question, rank
and file Republicans who are as disgustedwith his behavior as I am, who
are not in the Executive Committee,which from what I understand, has been
pretty pretty culled at this point ofpeople who are not supporters of David Williams.

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So you know what redress do thosepeople have? Is there anything they
can do because he's stopping all overthe actual rules of the Republican Party and
then and then touting it as agood thing. Yeah No, I mean,
look, he's just like one giantmiddle finger to everyone, right,
And that's why I started the RestoringStandards pack and Restoring Standards C four is

(41:46):
to start to try to figure outhow to put our arms around these issues.
But I mean, look, theRepublican Party is a private organization,
and it is a private organization thatis self governing, and when there's no
no one left to hold people accountable, then there is no Then there is

(42:07):
no accountability, right right, Andso like we can sue people, could
sue, somebody who was harmed couldsue. But ultimately this has to come
from the bottom up. And oneof the things that was really heartened by
was the number of precinct caucuses wherepeople introduced from a grassroots standpoint, these

(42:30):
resolutions about conflicts of interest, aboutwhat leadership should look like from the Republican
Party, and then largely you sawthem not get further up the chain because
they just weirdly disappear. Weird thatthey would just be ignored by the leadership
in the party that they were alldirected at. Yep. And so then

(42:51):
you can just pass a resolution thatsays, hey, we can endorse in
these races because we say we can. And a majority of the people at
convention stood up, not either realizingthat it was a resolution or just because
they're angry, as they should be. Right. I also, had I

(43:13):
been there, would have been angry. I'm frustrated with this whole situation.
And here we sit, here wesit, and now Dave Williams has codified
once again another self dealing type ofsituation illegally against the by laws. Yeah,
I mean, but I guess unlessthe Executive Committee stands up, so

(43:35):
it's the Central Committee, a centralcommittee, okay, and like unclear,
right, My thing is, hecannot become a congressman this way. He
cannot become a congressman this way.If he does, the ramifications are huge.
This is this is how you becomea congressman. Then this becomes how

(43:58):
you become a congressman. And it'sgross and it's wrong. And I stood
up and said absolutely not. AndI've been taking slings and arrows really like
I mostly don't get upset about it, but like people my friends get upset.
Oh yeah, the things that peopleare saying about me. And fine,

(44:19):
you know what, I will standup. I will take the insults,
I will take the childishness, andI will say we are better than
this. We are better than aguy who only imports Chinese crap while saying
that he's America first. We arebetter than a guy who says he's gonna
play it right down the middle whilehe uses the ashes of the Republican Party

(44:45):
for himself. We are better thana guy who pretends like he's all maga,
maga maga, when really he's cannibalizingeverybody, including MAGA candidates. Oh
there's there's in my mind. Imean, I'm looking at the landscape and
there are races that are going tobe incredibly close. Yes, CD eight,
Yeah, did we talk about thatfor a second. Yeah, we

(45:07):
already know that this last congressional districtCity eight went in a squeaker to you,
dear a Caraveo over Barb kirk Kirkmeyer. Who is I? I love
Barb, I like I don't usuallysay I love politicians, but she is.
She is so knowledgeable, and sheis so smart, and she's principled.
She is just fantastic. She's sogood. She should have won that

(45:27):
race where it not for a libertarianwho did not campaign at all. But
that district is truly split. NothingDavid Williams is doing is going to help.
And that's the thing is like,the one thing that David Williams could
have pointed to that maybe he did, is he created that negotiation with the
Libertarians. Oh guess what they havenow decided to like take that and throw

(45:50):
it straight in the trash can.Could you blame them? No, I
wouldn't want to subjugate my party tothis clown show, right, you know,
which is essentially what it is.I mean I used to laugh that
I would be libertarian if they everwanted to win anything. And now that's
the question is to like, whyam I a Republican because clearly we have
an incentive problem where Dave Williams profitsoff of destruction yep, right, And

(46:13):
I don't know how to sell buildingwhen you have somebody who is just walking
around with a match and then whinythe rhinos they're coming, the rhinos,
they're coming. Like, what doesthat even mean at this point? Nothing.
That's the thing that gets me.Do they really think? And I
keep checking I keep checking the ColoradoRyan and watch page to see if I'm

(46:36):
on it. And I'm not onit yet. Kelly, Oh my god
it you can have mine. No, I want to be right next to
you. I want my picture rightthere. I don't want to have shirts
made. Oh that would be fun. I would have shirts made. And
I just want to make a mockeryof them, because what what I feel
like is happening to some folks right, that are not used to the slings
and arrows that are hurled in thesesituations. There are people who are a

(46:59):
free of being on that wall becauseof what they think it might mean.
Kelly, how has your life beendestroyed since you made it under the Rhino
washwall? Well, what does itmean? As your husband left you,
did your children demand to be emancipated? What happened after that fateful day?
Absolutely nothing? This is a shooting, right. It's like they seem so

(47:20):
scary, and they seem so mean, and it is It is not.
It is not scary. It isnot mean to stand up and say this
is enough, this is too far. Here's the line in the sand.
I'm an actual Republican, you,sir, are not well. I mean,
actual Republicans might care about things likebylaws or tradition of you know,

(47:42):
doing things that the Republican Party traditionallyhas done, following the rules, all
of these crazy things. I mean, it's nuts to think about it.
Well, it is. And alsolike I just look at I look at
this landscape, and I look atDave Williams and what he's doing, and
I just I keep hoping that thethe like Trump team will kind of dig

(48:05):
it out, Yeah, dig itout a little bit more, and they'll
look at it and they'll be like, oh, the same people who are
supporting President Trump here, and someof them are like large. I know,
I know several large donors who aresupporting President Trump and simultaneously are begging
begging for Dave Williams to go away. Well, they're gonna have to do

(48:28):
it, and I hope they doit soon. Kelly Maher is my guest.
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(48:51):
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(49:14):
pretend to be cool, because I'mdefinitely not cool. But ladies and germs,
she is. She is cool anyway. All right, Kelly, I'll
talk to you again soon. Keepme posting, Ah, You're the best.
We'll be right back now. Alot of you have weighed in on
the conversation with Kelly Maher. Somefrom that were actually at the assembly,
and the chaos is evident by whatI'm seeing here. But we're not going

(49:38):
to spend a lot more time onthat right now because I have other stuff
on the show that I want totalk about, including this story. I
have a question, and this isone of those stories where I am I'm
really looking for your opinion on thisbecause I am interested to know where you're
going to go. Whenever I havea candidate on the show show, I

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get a series of text messages fromdifferent people asking do they support Trump and
are they pro life? And ifI don't answer yes to both of those
questions, then I get a responseback, well I'm not going to vote
for them, then okay, fine, So I want to ask the pro
life people what they think about Trump'sannouncement yesterday and if it dissuades them at
all from voting for Donald Trump.And I say that with a caveat that

(50:25):
whatever the Republican Party can or cannotdo on abortion, And I'll get into
what I mean by that in justa moment. The notion that staying home,
not voting, doing a protest nonvote, or what are you going
to vote for a Democrat? Thatwill only make it worse. And I

(50:49):
realize it's disappointing. But there's somethingthat the pro life community needs to really
recognize after the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and that is we are
no longer evenly balanced when it comesto pro life pro choice. For a
long time, when Roe v.Wade was the law of the land,
the numbers were very close forty ninefifty one, I mean really really close

(51:10):
when people pulled on abortion. Sincethe overturning of Roe versus Wade, where
those opinions really matter, we've begunto see that even in Red states,
pro choice wins over pro life anytimeit's been put on the ballot and put
to the people. Abortion has wonin Colorado, we can't even get a

(51:30):
late term abortion passed. They're rightnow gathering signatures to codify abortion rights with
no restrictions into our constitution. So, if you're part of the pro life
movement, I'm not telling you togive up, but I am saying it's
time to change tactics. Because evenif you got people elected that would vote

(51:51):
for a federal ban on abortion orvote for a complete man in Colorado,
let's just say some craziness happened andRepublicans swept into power in calor and they
were able to pass a ban onabortion, they would summarily be bounced out
of office in the next election cycle. And if you don't believe me,
look at how the Democrats are runningon abortion. And they're going to continue

(52:13):
running on abortion. And I'm justcurious about how you feel about Donald Trump's
stands. Now, if you didn'thear his video, a Rod, give
me my computer very quick. Letme make sure I don't have a spot
here. Now hang on one second. Don't give it to me for five
seconds, because yeah, we're gonnaskip that. Okay, Now, let
me back this up and turn thison. Now give them my audio.

(52:36):
This is President Trump making his announcementand just listen to it. Under my
leadership, the Republican Party will alwayssupport the creation of strong, thriving,
and healthy American families. We wantto make it easier for mothers and families
to have babies, not harder.That includes supporting the availability of fertility treatments

(52:57):
like IVF in every state America.Like the overwhelming majority of Americans, including
the vast majority of Republicans, Conservatives, Christians, and pro life Americans,
I strongly support the availability of IVFfor couples who are trying to have a
precious baby. What could be morebeautiful or better than that? Today,

(53:19):
I'm pleased that the Alabama Legislature hasacted very quickly and passed legislation that preserves
the availability of IVF in Alabama.They really did a great and fast job.
The Republican Party should always be onthe side of the miracle of life
and the side of mother's father theirbeautiful babies, and that's what we are.

(53:40):
IVF is an important part of that, and our great Republican Party will
always be with you in your questfor the ultimate joy in life. Many
people have asked me what might nowI'm gonna stop it right there, because
starting out by talking about IVF wasvery smart because IVF is something vast majority

(54:00):
of people say, yes, weshould do this. Now, the Pope
is not down with IVF. ThePope says, we're messing with God and
God's plan with IVF. But youknow what, God also created the people
that created IVF. I'm just saying. Then he continues onto abortion. My
position is on abortion and abortion rights, especially since I was proudly the person
responsible for the ending of something thatall legal scholars both sides wanted and in

(54:27):
fact demanded be ended Roe v.Wade. They wanted it ended. It
must be remembered that the Democrats arethe radical ones on this position because they
support abortion up to and even beyondthe ninth month. The concept of having
an abortion in the later months,and even execution after birth, and that's

(54:49):
exactly what it is. The babyis born, the baby is executed after
birth is unacceptable, and almost everyoneagrees with that. My view is now
that we have abortion where everybody wantedit. From a legal standpoint, the
states will determine by vote or legislationor perhaps both, and whatever they decide

(55:10):
must be the law of the landin this case, the law of the
state. Now he goes on totalk about how it is a states rights
issue, and I actually agree withthat wholeheartedly. I thought that Roe v.
Wade was poorly decided because this wasa states rights issue and that the
Supreme Court found a right that wasn'tthere and overreached with Roe v. Wade.
And we've seen what's happened. We'veseen states in act bans at various

(55:35):
stages. I think I don't knowa rod google how many states have a
full ban on abortion. Most stateshave a ban on abortion after a certain
number of weeks, right, andthat is that is I think what most

(55:55):
and I want to say most,what a majority of Americans find acceptable.
Now what that number of weeks isis being hotly debated. I know that
Florida is looking to do a sixweek ban, and I think that that
would be less palatable to people becausesometimes people don't find out they're pregnant until
after six weeks. So it's goingto be interesting to see how this plays

(56:17):
out. But I think this isa smart play by the president in Colorado.
I don't think you can be astaunchly pro life Republican and get elected
in a statewide race. I don'tyou know, Joe O'Day Heidigan all they
all got hammered over that in thelast election cycle. And the perception is
that if Republicans take power in Colorado, they are going to work to rescind

(56:39):
there are our abortion rights. Now. I think that if this ballot initiative
that is being getting signatures right nowthat would codify abortion into the Colorado Constitution
passes, then that's actually good forthe Republicans because it takes the issue off
the table. Yes, a Rodes, you find if this is information is
correct, it looks like nineteen stateshave it banned. That sounded about right,

(57:02):
and then roughly wenty three four orfive six, about seven legal with
gestational limit of six to eighteen weeks, and then the rest legal based on
this CNN article. All right,well, I'm looking at the same CNN
article. So we've got North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, Oklahoma,
Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Indiana, Kentucky,

(57:30):
and West Virginia. That's a fullban and then legal but with gestational
limits of six to eighteen weeks.You have North Carolina, South Carolina,
Georgia, Florida, Arizona, Utah, and Nebraska. You just heard the
story with Ben's News about an Arizonalaw that from like the eighteen hundreds that
is now being upheld. So that'skind of a mess right now. But

(57:52):
this is not an issue that Republicanscan run nationwide on and win because you
see how many states are not limitingabortion at all. So I don't know.
I think it was a smart move, but I'm wondering about the pro
life Trump supporters. Do you feelthe trade or are you just like,
look, this is the cost ofdoing business. I understand it, and

(58:14):
I'm sick of losing, which honestlyis kind of how I feel. A
lot of you texting in about theTrumps statement, and this one I think
is kind of interesting. Trump's statementis exactly what you'd expect from a secular
person who has no moral foundation oran understanding of the ethical issues that from
RFK and Colorado. And here's thething, And I hate to say it

(58:42):
like this because I want people ofgood character and good ethics in government.
But there's ethics and morals and there'spolitics, and never let it be said
that those two things are ever handin hand. I mean, maybe sometimes
they are by coincidence, but certainlynot by design. And this is a
conversation I've had with so many peoplewho are staunchly pro life in Colorado,

(59:06):
and I have nothing but admiration foryou guys, But we have got to
change tactics because simply demanding the lawsbe changed is not going to work.
It's not I mean, it's justnot working. And the definition of insanity
is doing the same thing over andover again and expecting a different result.
We have to work on changing theminds and the hearts of people when it

(59:29):
comes to abortion. We have towork on that, and I think the
first place to start is make surethat there are organizations that are helping women
who are pregnant and they don't wantthat baby, either help them learn how
to be a mom and help themget the skills to support a child,
or help them set up a privateadoption instead of getting an abortion. And

(59:51):
I know that there are organizations whodo that, but they're not enough of
them. And I would love tosee all of the people who have been
so working so hard on the legislativepiece of this redirect your energy into that
and not just doing it, buttalking about it, supporting it, amplifying
it. So all of these womenwho are finding themselves when the unwanted pregnancy

(01:00:15):
know that there are truly choices andnot just one choice right, not just
one choice, this person said,politically, I'm homeless and happy while laughing
at both sides ripping themselves apart fromwithin and making this a childish red versus
blue summer camp color war. However, I'm also sad because both sides are

(01:00:35):
so ridiculous in their tactics of boatbashing both sides. I refuse to move
into either political party, and Iam rendered politically homeless by choice. It's
a hypothetical solution, having more thantwo political parties to choose from. Is
it a hypothetical right now? Itis. I would love to see viable
third parties, but there's a coupleissues with that in that the Republican and

(01:00:59):
Democratic parties completely and absolutely control howyou get on the ballot, how elections
are run, and they have nodesire to make it easier for third parties
to really get gend up and going. And I had hopes for no labels
until they started about running you know, running a ticket that included two old
white guys, and I'm like,you're telling me that you're going after young

(01:01:22):
people, but you run two oldwhite guys as your ticket. Now I
believe that Joe Manchin is officially saidhe's not interested, but my gosh,
you're trying to get shake things up, and you're basically giving us a rehash
of everybody Oh, not from RFK, but voting for RFK in Colorado.

(01:01:43):
I wonder o RFK is going todo here. I'm curious. I think
it's going to be very interesting.Minimizing abortions is going to be like getting
cigarettes out of restaurants was twenty fiveyears ago. Oh my gosh, you
guys. I was talking to mydaughter about what were we watching. We
were watching something everybody was smoking,and I said, you know, when
I first became a flight attenant innineteen ninety one, you could still smoke

(01:02:07):
on international flights. And she's like, oh my god, how did they
keep the smoke out of the restof the cabin. And I was like,
oh, oh, they didn't.They didn't. It was a fantasy
that there were non smoking sections onairplanes. And he was like, here,
we're gonna take this in closed tubeand we're gonna make the last five
rows smoking and then call the restnon smoking. That's just comically bad,

(01:02:29):
absolutely comically bad. So yeah,we shall see. But that took It's
that. And also drunk driving,okay, Mothers against drunk drivers made it
their mission to demonize drunk driving.And now granted, now we have ride
sharing and we have all this stuff. That's why I mean, you hardly

(01:02:51):
ever hear of someone getting pulled overfor a dui, but it still happens.
But I'm saying, there's so manyoptions to not drink and drive,
and especially for the younger generation,for my kids who are in their early
thirties, they would not for asecond think about drinking and driving. It
just is not a thing they wouldconsider, not a thing they would do
because it's been successfully demonized in society. That's actually kind of a good analogy.

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We've got to change people's minds,we've got to change people's hearts,
and we've got to provide support forthe people. The women who find themselves
in this situation where they are pregnantand they might have gotten pregnant by a
guy who has no interest in beinga father, So what do we do
with that? I think that's abig, big issue that needs to be
addressed. This texter said, Mandy, has politics and Christianity become two completely

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different issues? Will Christian voters solelyvote on moral issues? I don't think
so. I believe the country hasabandoned its moral values to the point Christians
will now vote on their livelihood andexistence rather than continuing the assault they see
Now I'm not sure that the Reaganvoter exists anymore. Well, first of

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all, Christianity and politics should bedifferent. We'll get into that next.
It's not like I'm trying to liveforever, right. I don't want to
live. I don't want to outliveall of my peers because that kind of
sucks. I watched my late motherin law who lived to be ninety three,
but she outlived all of her peersand she was just very lonely.

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That being said, I do wantto lead a long and healthy life.
So that's why I did things likelosing the weight with the Soda weight loss
program. And you know, I'min the process now. I had a
physical yesterday. I'm going to doa little TMI right now. But I
am about to have everything on mybody checked. I got to have a
kolonoscopy, I got to have amammogram. I've got to have all of
that sort of you know, preventivestuff done. So over the next two

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months while baseball is on, thisis what I'm doing. Okay, people
go, what are you doing?Baseball's on. Well, I'm going to
have a mammogram on Wednesday. Howabout that. There's something you know now
about me? Anyway, But thereare people who have adopted did these extreme
lifestyles because they want to live quoteforever or however long they think they can

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live. I mean, there's aschool of thought in longevity circles that the
first person to live to be onehundred and thirty years old is already alive.
The oldest man in the world justdied at one hundred and fourteen.
Oh, one hundred and seventeen.By the way, oh no, no,
wait a minute, we have anew oldest person. She's one hundred

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and seventeen. She's been the oldestliving person since January of twenty twenty three,
and when asked how she's lasted thislong, she said luck and good
genetics. But then she also gavea shout out to order, tranquility,
good connection with family and friends,contact with nature, emotional stability, no
worries, no regrets, lots ofpositivity, and staying away from toxic people.

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But here's the question. The questionis this, if you knew,
let lu just throw this out here. If you knew that, if you
just ate nothing but green vegetables andchicken breast for the rest of your life,
and then if you exercise for anhour every day for the rest of

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your life, and that you didn'tdrink any alcohol or have any kind of
you know, excitement, you liveda very calm life and you could live
to be one hundred and twenty,would you do it for me? That's
honestly a hard pass. I'm notwilling to live a life devoid of things
that give me joy. You know. I love a good meal. I

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still love a good meal, evenafter soda, but I eat a lot
less of it than I used towrite. I love ice cream, I
love desserts. I would never givethose things up. And though I don't
drink as much as I used to, I drink very little now. I
don't want to never be able tohave a champagne toast with someone to celebrate
something if that's what they were doing. So, you know, I think

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the older you get, the easierit seems to do something like this.
But would it be worth it?Text us at five six six, nine
oh a rod, would you doit? Chicken breasts and green vegetables in
an hour of exercise a day andyou lived in one twenty? I mean
the rest of your life things alreadyfor No, but you had a blowout
weekend. Yeah, yeah, okay, that just like nothing never never,

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no, never give me, likegive me like, you know, let
me hit triple digits. I don'teven Here's the thing. I don't want
to just be triple digits. Tobe triple digits. I want to have
a quality of light. That's whatI'm saying. Yeah, I want to
have a good quality of light.Yeah exactly. I mean I'm trying to
lay the groundwork, like, youknow, take better care of myself.
And somebody just said, Mandy mywife, and I call that the one

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hundred thousand mile check up. Thatis, I'm going through the hundred thousand
mile service right now. I meanI'm gonna freeze my brain, you know,
and do all that. No,you're not yeah, I'm gonna I
will. I want all that goodstuff, the possibility being brought back later.
No, yeah, no, yeah, it's happening. Stop it.
Come on. I want to seethe future. I want to see the
future too, but I also ama believer, so I think I get

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to see the future just from adifferent perspective. You know, I'm not
leaving any stone unturned. You're justmaking sure that you're going to get it
all in there. Yep, allright, five six, six, nine.
Oh would you do it? Ordo you do it now? You
know, what do you do itnow? Is this the life you lead?
Because what's boring to some may bejust daily activity to others. That's

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the big question. We'll talk aboutthis and bad news for the Biden and
Admin. Electric vehicles are actually losingpopularity right now. We'll talk about that
next too. If the secret toliving forever is a boring life, is
it really worth it? And theytalk to people who are very, very
old. So John Titniswood is thenew holder of the title of world's oldest

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man. The one hundred and elevenyear old great grandfather from Mercyside inherited the
accolade after the previout incumbent of Venezuelanname one Vicente Perez, died at the
age of one fourteen. Exercising themind and moderation were also on his checklist
of longevity hecks, along with neverovertaxing your system and getting along with others.

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There's a theme that's very similar toall of the people that they interview,
and they interview several that are wellover one hundred and you know,
living a calm life without conflict withother people and toxic people is one of
them. This person on the textline said, Mandy, you unleash something
with the Huban in podcast videos.I think his guests to their podcast.

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I link his guests to their podcastsee longevity Expert Peter Atilla. I think
that's how you say his last name, the bald guy and what you need
to do with VO two Max beingcritical, his question is what do you
want to be able to do inthe last decade of your life? Best
answer is to be able to dothe basics of getting dressed and go into
the bathroom by yourself being the mostpopular goal. I somewhat do what you

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mention, not to live to acertain number, but to have a good
quality of life. I think geneticswill be the best predictor of longevity.
Parents lived into their nineties and grandfatherto ninety four. I need to be
in shape if I live that long. It just makes sense, Mandy.
My mom is ninety and eats broccolievery day. Other than failing sight and
hearing, she is healthy, andwe will think we think she will live

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another ten years plus, you knowwhat. I hope so, but I
will tell you ninety. Turning ninetyis tough, and remaining healthy through your
nineties is also very difficult. SoI hope that you are right and you
have your mom. But that wouldbe quite the feet. That would be
quite the feet. Hey, Mandywould not do it. After beating cancer

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twice so far, being retired andturning seventy, Life's too short. I
intend to enjoy the rest of it, God willing, doing the things that
I love in being with my familyand friends. I think so, you
know, honestly, that's kind ofhow I feel. Don't get me wrong.
Like I want to be healthy,I want you. I've got a
fourteen year old daughter. I wantto be not just alive when she gets
married someday, but I want tobe, you know, alive and active.

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I want to be on the dancefloor that kind of stuff. I
don't want to just be there.I want to be having a blast at
that kind of stuff. So forme, it is about quality of life.
And I've talked about this and it'skind of a visual, so I'm
sorry that I'm going to try andexplain this visual on the radio. I
saw this many years ago and itstuck with me. Eastern medicine, meaning

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Chinese medicine and other sort of nonWestern pharmaceutical based medicine practices, they focus
on keeping you well. And Iheard someone say that if a Chinese doctor
has a waiting room full of patients, he feels like a failure because he
is not keeping his people well.That is their job. And they used
a graph that showed that when you'reborn, you are born, and then

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from zero to eighteen, your levelof health goes up, up, up,
up up, assuming that you livea healthy life from zero to eighteen,
and then in Western medicine, itplateaus for a good bit until we
hit our mid fifties, and thenit starts a slow decline, like a
forty five degree decline, until weeventually are so bad and then we die.

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In Eastern medicine, they keep thatline plateau until you're in your seventies
or eighties, and then you havea catastrophic event and you die quickly.
So essentially, in the Western styleof life and the standard American diet and
the fact that we spend way toomuch time sedentary, we die for like
thirty years. We're just dying overthirty years. And think about people that

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you know in your life, becauseI know people in my life that starting
about fifty five or sixty, theystarted to have one thing after another after
another after another, and they justkind of limp along until they eventually succumb
to something. And I want thatstraight line to go as straight as it
can for as long as it can. That's all I want. And then,

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you know, whatever that catastrophic cliffis, where I just fall off
a cliff and die, I'm finewith that. But I want that straight
line of health to go as farover as I can. Mandy, don't
forget skin cancer check. Never usesunblock in the seventies and eighties forth,
skin cancer surgery next week. Ido a dermatological skin cancer check every single
year. And as I've mentioned before. There's nothing more exciting than having your

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super cute young dermatologist pick up yourboob to look under there to see if
there's anything they need to know about. Yeah. Yeah, but you gotta
do it right, I mean,you gotta do it. Like I said,
I'm doing my mammogram. I'm gonnaschedule a colonoscby on a baseball day.
Yee. That's fun. That's veryfun. Actually, it's you know

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what we all talk about colonoskmy islike they're terrible. They're really not that
bad. The prep is not awesome, you know, the prep the day
before when you have to spend twelvehours pooping is not that the best.
But it's not horrible. I meanI've done that after a bad night a
Mexican food. Just throwing that outthere for you. There you think about

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that. Mandy would not do it. Oh wait a minute, I already
read that one. I am seventyseven and in good health, bad back.
I don't plan or want to liveto ninety. There are a lot
of changes after ninety, not goodchanges I have seen among my ninety plus
friends. That's true unless you area part of the people who have great

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genetics, great genetics. I havereally good genetics for aging on both sides
of my family. I'm not onesingle person says they would do it.
Let me just read these very quicklybecause they're all very short. No,
I don't want to live that long. Wouldn't do it? Would one drink
or one missed exercise kill the deal? Mandy? No, I wouldn't.

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I get really tired of yardbird.Give me some bison or beef. I'm
not hanging out with old fossils likeme forever. Who wants to live forever?
Song from the great this movie evermade? Highlander? There can be
only one exercise for an hour.No thanks, I don't want to die
sore yo at hour of exercises.Not that much. How much time do

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you will until the death of Treddytoday? Yeah, we are. We're
marking the passing of Treddy A Rod'sfree treadmill he got from a listener.
It gave up the ghost today thirtyminutes every day, thirty minutes. Do
you do any weight training or stufflike that? No, that, it
was always incline on the treadmill,which felt in its own way like that.
I will tell you I have becomeenamored with kettlebell workouts. I have

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one kettle bell. It's fifteen pounds. It's not even that walking bell.
No, I don't walk in bell. I don't walk in bell. But
no, there's all these exercises becauseI have a very strong core. That's
one of my strong suits is mycore. But I'm always looking for interesting
ways to do core exercises that arenot planks, because I don't know who.
Nobody loves planks, right, Imean good at him. Actually I'm

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not bad at him, but it'snot my favorite thing, and I get
bored. I didn't love the sideyou had me do yesterday. Sideplanks are
that's that's your your obliques. Thoughthat's important to be able to sideplink like
that, I prefer the normal.Yeah, if you missed that, I
made a rod do sideplanks and allkinds of stuff to test his fitness.
He did it and forty five pushups. But which is making me sore today?
Sor today? Lately I've been onthe kettlebell workout you can find them

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all over the YouTube. Good fivepound. I have a fifteen pound kettlebell.
It's only when I have hey,so I'm trying to work up to
buy another one at twenty pounds.But I'm not there yet half pounder.
But it's that kind of stuff.I enjoy it. It's fun. You
gotta find a way to make workingout interesting. I do anyway. That's
why I work out with the trainer. Somebody said, why do you work
out with the trainer? I'm like, because I get bored, and I'm

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good to get bored. I getlazy. But when she says do this
ten times, even if I'm dying, I'm still going to do it ten
times. If I do, I'mnot hit halfway through. I'm like,
five's enough by myself. This personsaid, I already live like that.
Well, then you are ahead ofthe game, Mandy. Have you noticed
how many times some people see theirdoctors a week or a month. These

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folks never seem healthy. I willsay this, I did not grow up
going to the doctor. We werenot that family. Like literally, You're
like, I think I broke myneck, Rub some dirt on it,
you'll be fine. And I stillit's not like I don't go to the
doctor if I really need to.But when I went for my physical yesterday,
my doctor did point out that ithad been like five years since I

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had a proper physical, and Ithought, you know it, probably need
to do that more often. Andthen she gave me the look, you
know, you need a colonoscopy anda mammogram. I'm like, yes,
I know, That's why I'm heregetting it all done. Mandy. Kolonoscopies
aren't as bad as it used tobe. Five of them. If you
don't want to live forever hard enoughat seventy five five, well you're supposed

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to have a colonospe every five yearsunless you have some reason to have them
more often, which no, andno. A kolonoscopy does not sound better
than a Rockies game text her doesnot. I'm on my power walk right
now listening to Mandy. Do Ineed to talk faster? Power Walker?
When you walk on the treadmill,do you play music? No, I'm

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usually getting some stuff for the showor watching someone play a video game.
I have found that if I walkoutside, I like to walk in silence.
I don't want any kind of audioin my ears. If I'm running
outside, I like music keeps mepumped up. Well, yeah, then
if I'm on a treadmill, though, on the opposite I like to have
music to keep the beats per minutegoing, and then I match the beats
per minut it as I'm on thetreadmill. I love syncing up the run

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to the music. Oh yeah,nice a rod. You need the under
the desk treadmill. It would beperfect for you. Ooh, but I
in studio. But you, Imean you could you? Yeah, we
should get some of those and putthem in here. But my microphone is
not tall enough. No me ordo that. One of my great irritations
about our beautiful studio is that itdoes not have a standing desk. So

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right now I'm standing in front ofmy microphone, but I have to kind
of lean over way that I couldnot do the show for three hours because
it's just too short. I preferstanding. I'm a standing desk at home,
an Uplift desk. Uplift brand,absolutely fantastic, Mandy. I'm raking
my three quarter acre yard core work. Yes that is yes, that is

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half pounder. Lol, go getAspachelo. What does that mean? I
said half pounder on the well dumbbell? No, no, no, that's
not even a thing, is it? Can you buy an eight oulce dumbell?
What is that for finger curls.Just do a little finger curls with
your fingers, get a little halfpound. I'm just staying active. This
person said, I'll never give upmy hookers and blow. And why should

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you, sir or madam? Whyshould you? Now? We got a
couple of things on the blog thatI wanted to mention before we go.
Let's see, we talked about picklesand buttercup dying. They are no longer
a thing, y'all. I havelike five hundred names for all of the
baby ca owls that are going tobe killed by wolves in Colorado. I'm

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ready. I'm totally ready. Iwalked ten miles a day and wash it
down with the twelve facts. SoI'm kind of a health nut. Well,
you are a nut, but Ido think one cancels out the other.
I mean, you're practically just drinkingbread, right, isn't beer just
bread? Course? It is badnews for electric vehicles. More Americans said
in twenty twenty four that they wouldnot consider purchasing an EV than in twenty

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twenty three. This from a newGallop Pole. The poll found forty eight
percent of respondent said they would notconsider buying an electric vehicle. That is
up seven percentage points than those whosaid the same in twenty twenty three.
Thirty five percent said in the latestsurvey they might consider purchasing one, and
nine percent said they were seriously consideringit. A new pole also found that

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the percentage of Americans who said theyowned an EV ticked up slightly in twenty
twenty four, with seven percent sayingthey have one. Last year, four
percent said they owned an EV.And this as the Biden administration has finalized
a rule that will limit how manygas cars we can buy. Now,
they were very sneaky. The ruledoesn't mandate a shift to electric vehicles,

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but it sets pollution standards for anautomaker's vehicle fleet that will be impossible to
meet without increasing the share of electricor other low carbon vehicles. So,
because central planning and top down edictshave always worked so well in the past,
now we're doing now, we're doingit here when it comes to electric
vehicles. Yeah, yeah, aneight ounce weight is a small can of

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food. Yeah, but what areyou gonna do with that? I mean,
that's you know, baby curls,little tiny baby curls. I mean,
like actual babies doing curls Mandy.I stayed awake for my first colonoscopy,
never again, the probe rooting aroundand my bowels felt like I was
riding the old wooden roller coaster inLakeside. Probably should have vetted that one

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before I read it on the air. That's where they put you to sleep
and you get the propofol nap.The propofole nap is amazing. The first
time I had propofile for surgery,I think it might have been my last
colonoscopy and the nurse this was inKentucky, and the nurse, no,
it couldn't have been that. Itwas sign of surgery. Maybe I don't

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even know. The nurse goes inthere, We're going to give you some
propofol and I said, isn't thatwhat killed Michael Jackson? And she didn't
even look at me. She goes, that's why we don't do it at
home. And I was like,oh, okay, Profall's magic. I
mean magic. This person asked agood question, how do you find quality
of life at eighty ninety one hundred? The will to live and fear of

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the unknown is negotiable. You neverknow until you get there. That just
reminded me a friend of mine's mom. I think she's ninety four and she
just wants to die. She doesnot want to live anymore. I mean,
she tried to kill herself failed toldher daughter her biggest failure in life
was not being able to kill herself. And I was like, oh,

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but she's done. Everybody around her, all of her peers are done.
She's just done. And as myfriend said, she's never been a particularly
upbeat person. So yeah, Idon't want to be that person. I
don't want that to happen. Iwant to go before I'm miserable and don't
want to go. All right,we will be back for a whopping half
hour tomorrow because the Rockies takeover attwelve thirty. I'm gonna go get an

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ammogram. That is super fun.All the ladies know and all the men
who think that's kind of cool sounding, it's not. It's not at all
at all. But right now we'regoing to turn the station over because KOI
Sports is ready to go. They'recoming up next.