05-01-24 Interview - Cliff May - The Rot on College Campuses

THE ROT ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES Our friend Cliff May wrote about the rot happening on college campuses here and he joins me at 2:30 to talk about it. In the column he references just how far back the anti-Semitism in the Middle East goes, and spoiler alert, it predates the creation of Israel. Read it to be far more knowledgeable than any of these idiots on campus.

Episode Transcript

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Cliff May, welcome back to theshow. Your hair looks so good today.
Well, thank you. That's whyI wanted to be on Zoom with
you, so you get to seeit. It's what I it's my priority.
There you go, There you go. So your latest column struck a
lot of nerves for me, andit's titled the Ideological Cocktail poisoning American Campuses.

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And obviously this is the biggest storyof the day because we're not seeing
fewer protests, We're seeing more protestsas they build up. We're seeing violence
at u c l A. We'reseeing Columbia being raided by the cops to
take back Hamilton Hall. But there'ssome really comical aspects of the stuff that's
going on. I just shared alist of demands from the UCLA revolutionaries and

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they apparently forgot their inhaler's, theirEpiPens, and they do not want packaged
food or or bagels. Gosh,jarn it, no bagels or bananas.
It's what, what in the hellis wrong with these kids? Well,
they're spelled brass, I mean essentiallythere you know, they go into the

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college. They have learned very littlein high school. Unfortunately, that's clear
and they obviously think they don't needto learn anything in college anyhow, because
they're woke and they know everything.I think we had one component of all
this is that if you want tobe a serious scholar, it takes a
lot of work. If you wantto be a social justice activist, it

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only requires that you wear a cafe, get a piece of cardboard and a
sharpie, and then write something onit like free palesign or from the River
to the Sea, whether or notyou know which river and which sea and
why you're saying that. That's allit takes. And then, of course,
unfortunately they also have professors of alot of these colleges who got their
jobs not because of great scholarship,but because of dei and because of ideological

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preferences they were hired. So thesekids go and if they learn anything,
they learn to be indoctrinated rather thaneducated. They don't learn critical thinking at
all. You know, something I'vebeen thinking about writing about her is saying
it there's a lot of colleges thatnow I activist in residence. Yeah,
that somebody is paying for it.Being an activist and being a scholar,

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those are two very separate endeavors.People don't get that. I guess we
have a situation here in Denver wherethe Araria campus has been taken over.
There's an encampment there, and lastnight leadership from Metro State and CEU and
some other organization they went and metwith them, and I realized they're all

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women. So it seems like you'vegot all the Ivy League schools with women
now at the head, and thesethey all feel like diversity hires now because
they're not performing very well at thisjuncture. Yeah, apparently that's true.
Of course, if they're women,that's their decision to be women. I

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suppose. I mean, it's notyou know, you just you know,
I mean, they get to choose, right, It's well, okay,
I'm gonna let that joke just gofor a minute. I want to drive
part of the same thing. Bythe way, it's part of this woke
DEI critical race theory, intersectional ideology, which is a kind of Marxism,

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a kind of a play on Marxism, some called a neo Marxism, cultural
Marxism. It is spliced in withIslamism. Uh. And it is also
and my column suggests this, there'salso a really big dollop big thread of
what of neo Nazism. Nazism.I think that's an important too, because

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it's all very much based on it'sracialists, if not racist. So the
idea is that for among other things, that Israelis, even the ones from
Ethiopia who are whose skin is blackand those from Yemen and whose skin is
dark brown, altho they're whites andtheir Setlar colonialists. Now they're Setlar colonialists
from one empire. I mean thatthey're living in Judea. Well, that's

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the land of the Jews. That'swhy who was called that. That's the
way it works. If they're livingin the Jewish quarter of the Old City
of Jerusalem, are they colonialists there? And then you hear what they say.
Their answer is you will go backto poland go back to Beila,
Russia, go back. But peopleknow it's more than half of all Israelis

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are from families that never left theMiddle East, never left the Middle They're
not European Jews. Those they arefrom Morocco, they are from Yemen.
They are from a lot of themfrom Iraq, where they were thrown out
and where there were progrums against thembefore long before there was an Israel.
There were progrums also, by theway, in places like Jerusalem, long

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before there was an Israel, andone of the people who led those drums
was hodj Iman Husseini, the GrandMufti or the Mufti of Jerusalem, who
by the way, spent World WarTwo in Germany assisting Hitler. He did
two things. He recruited Muslims fromplaces like Albania to serve in the Nazi

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military in the SS and he broadcastsover shortwaves Nazi propaganda into the Middle East,
which changed and in a way particularlypoisoned the view of Middle Easterns,
of Arabs, of Muslims, ofothers, of Iranians about Jews because he

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introduced European anti Semitism, which isnot that there wasn't anti Semitism in the
Middle East, but it was different. We can talk about how, but
he introduced European anti Semitism as well, which is part of the reason that
after World War Two and after thebirth of Israel, not entirely, Jews
were thrown out of all the MiddleEastern countries in which they had lived for

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sometimes from more than a thousand years, long before there was such a thing
as Islam. The Iranian Jewish communitygoes back to the Babylonian period, way
back when they were all throughout alot of them ended up in Israel,
so they're not colonials. They're returningto the ancient Jewish homeland from which all
Jews were never expelled and expunged.There's always been a Jewish presence in Jerusalem

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and in other parts of what isnow Israel, and of course in other
parts of what we now call theWest Bank, which until it was conquered
whether Jordanians was called Judea and Samaria. So let me ask this question,
and maybe you know this answer,and maybe not. I was watching something,
some historical documentary type thing. Oneof Hitler's kind of right hand guys

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escaped Germany and ended up in theMiddle East and spent the rest of his
life fomenting anti Semitism in the MiddleEast. And that was after World War
Two. But I cannot for thelife of me, and I want to
say his name was like Us orsomething, but that's just a generic German
name and I've been unable to trackthat down. But it was part of
a documentary that I watched, andit was almost a throwaway comment. In

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terms of this, they were kindof like, this happened to this guy.
This guy was killed, this guywas captured, this guy ended up
in the area that became Iran andspread anti Semitism, And it was just
like an offhand comment. I'm like, wait a minute. The notion that
anti Semitism started, or the ArabIsraeli conflicts started with the creation of Israel

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is one of the biggest lies thatI think we've got to destroy if we're
ever going to stop these young schoolsof Mush from being completely used as useful
idiots in this movement. Well tothe except that facts matter, absolutely right
in terms of what you're talking about. It wasn't just one. A lot
of the Nazis who escaped at theend of World War Two were the most

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the most infamous ones went to Argentinaand Argentina and Sumter, but a lot
went to Egypt, went to Iraq, went to Iran, went to Syria.
They were welcomed in these places bya lot of these various regimes.
Some lived very quietly, some becamevery important advisors to the rulers. I
won't say leaders, because these werenot democracies. Of the Middle East,

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and at that point I would sayEuropean anti Semitism had blended with the anti
Semitism that existed in the in thein the Middle East, and that partly
explains why Jews had to flee fromAlexandria, from Cairo, from the from
tripa league, from Morocco, andagain a lot from and from from Iraq.

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Again very old communities, the oldest, the oldest communities were in Iraq
and Iran. There were Yemeni Jews. They have been there for a very
that's in the southern tip of theArabian Peninsula under Saudi Arabia. Long time
they had been there, and therethey're all gone now essentially. In your

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column you point out that the GrandMufti of Jerusalem actually organized programs against Jews
in nineteen twenty nine and nineteen thirtysix. So it just goes to show
kind of the sticking power of thiskind of anti semitism. I thought about
this this morning, Cliff, whenI was driving to work. What do
you think the reaction would be ifthese were Christian students who had taken to

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college campuses demanding that we divest fromcountries that do not fight back against anti
Christian sentiments. If this were Christianstudents that had taken over and set up
camp in a quad somewhere who weremaking all these demands, I think there'd
be a much different reaction. Andto your point that this kind of Nazism
and Islamism is blending together, Ithink there's an argument to be made that

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this is a huge problem because we'resort of we're seeding another Islamist. I
can't even think of the right wordthat I'm looking for here, but it
all feels very seedy in a waythat I'm not comfortable with, and I
don't feel like it's going to endwell. Well, yeah, that's certainly

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not going well. I mean,one thing that's important to realize is that
Christians are being persecuted right now inthe Middle East and being forced out.
There used to be a lot,I mean, Lebanon used to be a
majority Christian country. It no longeris. The Coptic Christians of each of
Egypt they probably represent ten percent.There have been killings in the recent days

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and pillaging of Coptic Christian villages goingon right now. Nobody protests that,
particularly, you have really a civilwar in Sudan, which is essentially,
absolutely truly genocidal of certain ethnic groupsthat the Foruns others in Sudan. You
don't see anything about that on thecampuses. So this is you know,

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going on simultaneously and no one paysattention. But what I do want to
stress is that Hitler's war was seenas a race war, and the Jews
were seen as the enemy race.And what we're seeing on the campus is
increasingly is the Jews being seen asthe enemy race. Some of them say,
no, it's just the Zionists.What does it mean to be a

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Zionist? Let me explain what itmeans to be a Zionist. Before there
was an Israeli Zionist with somebody whosaid the Jewish population of Israel or mandatory
Palestine should have a homeland with onthe ancient in some part of the ancient
Jewish home land. That was acontroversy, a good idea of bad idea.
Now that Israel exists for seventy fiveyears, the Zionist is someone who

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says that Israel should continue to existand it's people, it's citizens, twenty
percent of whom are Arabs and Muslims, should survive that's all it is.
So if you're anti Zionist, you'renot for the survival of the state,
and you're at best in different towhat happens to the population of Israel.
They're not going to Poland, they'renot going to Belarus. They're not all
going to Brooklyn. It ain't happening. We haven't even talked about the fact

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that they have a huge native bornpopulation in Israel, because the people that
have moved to Israel have had amillion kids over the last you know,
fifty years, so there's a hugenative born They're not from five years.
It's the Satan that they were therebefore that. So yes, of course,
people who have in generations and generations. Look, it's very important to
stand Israel was an anti imperialist andanti colonialist expression the Israel. When the

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British left, the Israelis raised theirflag. They knew at that point they
couldn't be a unitary state with theArabs because the Arabs had been having put
grums and hated them and all that. And there were not all of them,
there were plenty of didn't And theysaid to the Arabs within the land
that was going to be Israel,you can be citizens, and I say
something like twenty percent of israelis.Israeli citizens can be classified as Palestinians,

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most Muslim, some Christian. Youalso of other minorities, the Jews,
all kinds of the minorities, they'reall citizens. Able Musclim population of Israel
has more rights and more freedoms thanthe Muslim majorities in any other country in
the Middle East. Okay, that'sthat's the cliff. Stop it. You're

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you're you're using rational thought and logicfor people that are afraid of bananas.
I mean, come on, myapologies for them, my apologies, really,
Cliff Bade. The column is outstanding. I got I got super excited
to see you mentioned the Mufty GrandMuffy of Jerusalem because I saw and I'm
sure you've seen it, because it'sreally the only newspaper article about the meeting

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between Hitler and the Grand Muffy innineteen thirty nine. And I feel like
I've been like a one woman,you know, wrecking ball with that article.
So you've give it even more nowto chew on on this. But
I've linked to Cliff's article on theblog. Today. Is a joy to
see you in your gorgeous hair today, Cliff, thank you, it's enjoy

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you. You're looking lovely if Imay say so, all right, but
if you have to assue me forthat, Okay, you know my lawyers.
I'm good. I'll take you.I'm almost fifty five. I'll take
the compliments where i can get them. Okay, thanks man, I'll talk
to you later. All right,were coming? Okay? That is Cliff May