05-24-24 FULL SHOW - Please Remember the Reason Behind Memorial Day

Episode Transcript

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Mandy, is you you just heardthat traffic report with the traffic dude saying
like, oh, it's a nightmare. See the accident. You can see
it. I'm closed, Yeah,I can see. Well, I can't
see the accident, but I cansee the flashlights. So I am making
progress, and it says my wayssays I'm going to be there at like
twelve twenty at the latest. Okay, so hopefully, yeah, you can
just hang out for a couple ofminutes. But luckily I've already prepared the

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whole groundwork for a fantastic show incase, you know, something happens between
me and the next two two tenthsof a mile to get past this accident.
It's all there on Mandy's blog dotcom. Ross, I'm actually looking
at mandy'sblog dot com right now,and perhaps I should as the temporary for
you know, fourteen minutes, guesthost. Maybe I get the distinct honor

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of doing the thing you normally do. Well. I sure can't do it,
as I'm currently rolling along at fourto five miles per hour. It
would be unsafe for me to tryto read them. So why don't you?
Ross? All right, let's doit and alway, that's going to
press flat. I feel so special. I've never been a This is like

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the pinnacle my my radio aspiration.Do it, you can do it,
You've got it. Do it.Here we go on Mandy's blog today the
just going into Memorial Day weekend fivetwenty four, twenty four edition. Valdemar
kicks off his campaign this weekend.Have you ever wanted to be a fly
on the wall? It's Memorial Day, y'all. A reminder Jared Poulis is

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to blame for higher gas prices.I'm not the only one who says Polus
hates women. I think we needto talk about that one. Can we
all agree this is just gross?Uh? We might have to go to
that one too, because I don'tknow what it's about. I said,
put that in my phone and somethingstruck me. Want to ride the rails.
Imagine if they covered gun control likethey cover abortion. Our reservoirs are

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sitting pretty this year about Lake Mead. Republicans need to take note of this,
Mandy. This is an enormous blog. What are you doing? I
do? This is what I doeveryday. Some of us over prepared.
Oh my gosh, all right,I'm still going. More veterans get benefits
from the Packed Act after new gates, new concessions. If you're headed to
water with your boat this weekend,Mayor Mike isn't ready for prime time.

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Big Brother is really happening in Chinaright now. Woman arrested after cinnamon roll
attack. That one sounds good.This BMW concept car is insane anding.
Go on, doctor Phil, wemay have found a new planet to ruin
the way Ross ruins Mandy Show.Jerry Seinfeld on stoicism. Gosh, this

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is long. Are any of thehostages still alive? Competitive eating has broken
a champ? I know that story. Lefties make fun of Kamala Harris.
The Covid origins lie continues to unravel. This is the least surprising sports star
bankruptcy ever. No fast food,this is the last one. No fast
food is not the service industry,all right, many this is unbelievable.

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So I I often hear you readingyour blog And do you ever skip ones
just to make it not that long? Or do you always read them all?
No? I always read them all. But this one might be a
little extra full because I started itlast night and then finish it today.

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It's like a twofer. And uh, but it's Memorial Day. I wanted
people to have stuff to do thewhole weekend. No, dude, you're
being You're laid intentionally just to makeme read that. No, but you
know what is interesting, That's thefirst time I've ever heard someone read the
headlines where I couldn't read along.Uh huh, because, like you know,
I've had people when my when myvoices messed up and had people read
the headlines. But but but Iwas reading along, and they are they're

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kind of entertaining, just as youknow. I would go look at some
of those stories based on those headlines. I would do. I would do.
How about how about this one?I'm not the only one who says
Polus hates women. Well, yougot to read the on the headline on
that one to say that, youknow, I say that in a cheeky
fashion. Uh huh. But oneof his Democratic colleagues has accused him subtly

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of sexism based on the bills thathe vetoed so far, which a lot
happened to have been written by women. Ross, that's not cool. You're
never supposed to etoe, they'll writtenmy women. Everyone knows that right.
Loreina Garcia, who has state repsaid, of the twenty two sponsors of
the six bills, Jared Poulus vetoaed eighteen or women. And of course
Jared came out at some point sayI'm not paying attention who sponsored the bills.

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I'm I'm looking at the bills.I'm I'm inclined to believe him.
I know you're not a huge JaredPoulis fan, but on this one.
But here's the thing. I mean, I do think he hates me,
but that's neither here nor there.He can hate me for a variety of
reasons, only one of which isthat I'm a woman, right, But
this is the kind of nonsense thatyou get, and think about how many
women we have in the Colorado legislature. It would stand to reason that many

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bills would be written by only women, right, because we have so many
women in the legislature, especially democraticwomen. So it's just it's another inane,
whining, stupidity, dumb thing,and it's just, you know,
I do it to be funny.She was doing it seriously, and I
find that funny that he's catching firefrom the left in his own party.
Okay, So if we get alot of really stupid bills out of the

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state legislature, bills that are soDemocrat, bills that are so bad that
even our Democrat governor won't sign them. If we're getting bills like that,
is it because the people writing themare women? Or is it just because
there's a huge number of women inthe state legislature, So just by odds,
like what you said before, becausethere's so many women, a big
percentage of the bad bills will justhappen to have been written by women.

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Now, I think this answer maysurprise some, but I do think there's
argument can be made that some womenwould be more likely to write bad legislation
because it would be based more onemotion than logic. And I think that's
just a gender fact right there,that women on the whole can be more

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emotional than men. I think that'spart of our charm. But also it
doesn't mean that women can't be rationaland are not rational and logical, because
they are. But I do thinkespecially a group of women, and especially
a group of left wing women,where everything on the left seems to be
feelings based. Yeah, it standsthe reason that you're going to get garbage
bills Are you trying to be DenversHarrison Butker, what are you doing?

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No, I'm just calling it likeI see at Rocks every day from noon
to three, normally on the MandyConnell Show. Right, But you know,
I do my vendor. I thinkthat there's it's okay to recognize gender
differences in both gender something to thetable. But yeah, I mean bad
legislation is usually legislation that's emotionally based. This is the Mandy from the Road

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segment of The Mandy Coddle Show.We will be doing this the first segment
of each Friday from here on forward. Except no, we will not.
We will not be doing this exceptwhat we're doing. Yeah, except for
when we do. I left myhouse early today because it was like,
well, you know, I wantto get in there for as I'll have
the headphones on, yeah or namethat too. I'm going to be ready,

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you know. Yeah. And soI left my house like twenty minutes
earlier than I normally do. AndI'm still not at work yet. Yeah.
Yeah. And the traffic, bythe way is moving a little bit
better now. Right as I gotto the accident, they kind of pushed
everything off the side. Now trafficseems to be moving a little bit.
Are you Are you still on thehighway or did you exit already? Come
on Bellvue. I'll be there inlike two or three minutes. Were sitting
at you know, you know whenyou came out by twenty five at bellvu

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you're you have to stop at everylight? Yeah, or it's not Have
you really even gone down Bellevue withoutstopping at every single light? No?
You know you don't get to goto work without every light. You know,
it's turned into especially if you're goingwest it it's particularly bad. All
right, let's just as long asyour captive in your car, let's just
do a lighter topic here for asecond. From mandy'sblog dot com, the

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headline competitive eating has broken a champ. I like this story. That doesn't
kind of a sad story, don'tyou think. I mean, First of
all, I've watched that guy athot Dogs many many times. Yeah,
I mean show. Yeah, Andhe's little, he's not a big dude,
right, And now he says thathis nervous system has essentially adapted to

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his competitive eating training schedule, andhe never feels hungry and he never feels
full. That sounds like some kindof Greek mythology curse, doesn't it.
He never feels wait, he's neverhungry, but he's also never full,
correct, he feels the sensation ofbeing full, like you know when you

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have a big meal and you're like, oh, that was great, I'm
so full. He never has that, so he's messed up his biology.
And his wife says he just doesn'teat for days at a time because he
doesn't have hunger symbol signals at all. Wow, And I was like,
dang, yeah, I don't knowabout competitive eating ross. It's like his

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body is generating its own ozembic,yes exactly. I mean, it's kind
of amazing what the human body cando, though, when you think about
it, when you think about whatPOW's survive. You know, the kind
of deprivation that prisoners of war gothrough and still survive, and how their
bodies adapt. It's fascinating how thehuman body works. Truly. I just

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typed into the to the Google machinehow tall is Kobayashi, And then the
Wikipedia entry says his official website giveshis height as five foot eight and his
weight as one hundred and twenty eightpounds. So yeah, he's not a
big guy. But even but fivefoot eight is not a big guy.
But one hundred and twenty eight atpounds at five foot eight is like like

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almost stand erectxic. And this isa guy who eats however many hot dogs
at a time. It's unbelievable.Yeah, yeah, I just think that's
one of the things that I'm gonnaput this in the same category as the
new uh slap fight things. Haveyou seen these slap fights? Rot?
No? Okay, So the slapfights are literally slap fights where two people

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face off in some kind of youknow, like like a competitive field,
and they just slap each other ashard as they can. This is what
they do. They slap each otheras hard as they can, and and
people are already like getting brain damagefrom this. Oh my god. And
I was just the most bizarre thing. And I feel the same way I
felt when hang On, I'm gonnalok my car before I come out,
even though nobody's in the building today. So hey, I'm talking for a

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second. Laugh. Nearly does dothat, yeah, exactly. And and
so they they do these slap fights, and people are already getting brain damage
or getting knocked out. And I'mthinking to myself. What does this say
about our culture that this is whatwe want much, that this is what's
on the rise. You know,is this the thing that's being driven by

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social media? Like people want tosee themselves on TikTok, so they're doing
this thing or are they just doingit because they want to know? There's
like a competitive lead really and it'sprofessional slap fighting. I'm not like on
TV. Wow, that's kind ofnow I'm getting in the elevator. I
might lose you. That's all right, you lost me long ago. Thanks.

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Thanks, Oh my gosh, don'tworry. Mandy will be here in
a minute, and you will andyou will all be safe, everybody.
If you go to mandy'sblog dot com, you'll see the links for everything that
we just talked about and a lotof stuff that she's going to talk about
on the show. And and Mandy, can you sell food for wait,
there's a guy with food in herewho of course, those people order pizza

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and all kinds of other food allthe time, and it smells delicious.
I know, it smells like inthe elevator. You know it's because it's
because they don't work for ihearts,so they can afford food. Yeah,
yeah, that was Ross who saidthat everybody, even though it's on my
show, for sure, that wasI don't know who Ross is. I'm

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just a guy filling in for youfor fifteen minutes while you're stuck in traffic.
Your boss, boss, Uh huh, let me ask you one Oh
here she comes, here, shecomes. Oh my gosh. So now
she's hanging up the phone, puttingdown the person the giant cooler thingy.
Let me ask you just one slightlyserious question before I head out, before

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I head out of here, sostressful. You're you're married to a dude
who spent a lot of time inthe military. Yep, what does Memorial
Day mean to your family? Well, I mean Memorial Day is, to
be clear, the day to honorthose who died in service, and so
luckily he is not one of them. He very well could have been.

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Yeah, so that is what theMemorial Day is. And though it's always
nice when people think of veteran,that's just that's not the day to do
it, right. So I wascurious again and went out getting like too
heavy. But does are there specificpeople that Chuck knows who did pass away
while in the military? Who whohe thinks about on this day. I'm
sure, But you don't talk tohim about that that very much, don't.

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I don't know if I've ever askedthat question, which I don't know
what that says about me. ButI know he has had friends that were
killed. I mean I do knowthat. Yes, I guess yes,
the answer is yes. All right, you want to switch seats? Yeah,
all right, So I'm whoever Iam. It doesn't matter because this
is Mandy Show and Sleavinski. Yeah, that's right, that's right, And
Randy Cromwell's gonna come take over rightagain? Cutting down a tree? What?

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Yeah? So we bought this houseand I had a bunch of trees
around it, and Kristen said,take all these trees down except believe this
one. And they came and tookthem all down, and then she decided
that she wanted that one down too. And now I'm told that to come
back and take that one down willbe one thousand dollars. And so I'm
like, I'm gonna I'm gonna breakbust out the chain. So I try
to tell myself, I need toknow how good the story is going to
be on Ye, it's probably it'snot huge. It's probably twenty five feet

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tall and ten inches or eleven inchesdiameter. But it's next to the house.
We just need to make sure itdoesn't fall on the house. So
you think you are gonna go,do you have Does it have an open
lot next to it to fall into? Yes? Yes, this is going
to be a good story on Monday, everybody, when ros Kaminski comes in
to tell you how he takes hisroof out on his tree or or his

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head. Yeah, with all kindsof stitches and a black eye or dead.
Don't get dead cutting down the tree. Okay, do your best.
Don't get dead. I will,I mean I will try not to get
dead. Now I have something toworry about all weekend. There is there
is a certain satisfaction about doing thesekinds of things yourself and I have a
lot of in your work because there'sinstant gratification. Right But at this is

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the older I get, the moreI feel it the next day and I'm
like, this is now. ThankGod. By the way, I have
an interview with Valdemar Is coming upat one twelve thirty. At one o'clock,
I got an interview with our oneof our fan favorites or what of
our people we love? Nelly Bowlesabout her new book, which is so
good. I just started reading ityesterday, so you're way ahead of me.

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So it's such an easy read.Yeah, And it's like you're the
fly on the wall. You knowwhat's kind of fun. You're probably gonna
get into this with her already.But just how much the book critics in
the mainstream media. Oh, let'strash her like every place. The most
enjoyable nonfiction book that I've read ina long time. Really just easy,
fine, You really feel like youbegin to understand the psyche of the left.

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Yeah. And for first, whodon't know, she's married to Nelli
Bowls is married to Barry Weiss,and they started the Free Press together.
And Nelly Bows writes their Friday columnand this morning in the Friday column,
did you read her column this morning? I linked to it, but I
haven't ready. Well, just onequick thing in that is, you know
she mentions all these people like TheNew Yorker and Atlantic or whoever, who

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wrote bad reviews of her, andshe's thanking them for getting her into the
New York Times bestseller list with allof their bad reviews. All right,
well let's it's it's time to hitthe button anyway. Yeah, we go
to break on time on the MandyColm, Yes we do. So I'm
whoever I am. Have a wonderful, wonderful rest of your weekend. As
I said earlier, thanks have anenjoyable but uh thoughtful Memorial Day weekend,

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and I'll talk with you Tuesday.And Mandy's man, you'll be here in
a moment. To those who say, Mandy I enjoyed the Ross and Mandy
Friday Power Quarter Hour, I didtoo. That was the second time in
my life I have ever started myshow on the phone, but that is
the first time. It was notmy fault. So I am two for

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I don't even know how many thousandsof programs I've done since then. So
I'm feeling pretty good about things,pretty good about things. Jeff, you
got caught in it too. Idid, yep, but I saw it
and I did a little no nowith everybody else. Everyone was going through
the grass off of I twenty five, and I followed them and they got
onto Quebec. Oh see, now, dang, I was already in the

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left hand lane when everything came toa complete stop and let me just tell
you how kind Colorado drivers are whenyou try to get over. I tried
to get over, tried to getover, tried to get over. No
one would let me over. Andthen I realized, wait, I'm in
the fast lane. I'm in thelane that's moving. Thank you, all
of you rude Colorado drivers who areall stuck in there for not letting me

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in, because I beat you allout of that traffic. There you go.
You know what we forgot to do. It's Friday all together. Now,
whoo, that's right now. Wegot a bunch of stuff coming up.
And right now I've got one ofmy favorite guesties. He is running
for the first congressional district seat currentlyheld by liberal white woman Diana to Get

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and joining me now decidedly not awhite woman. It's Valdemar Archiletta. Everybody,
you probably don't get introduced like thatvery often, Valdemar. I do
not, but maybe I should,maybe if it'll help. All I got
to apologize my sound might be horrible. I'm in the middle of Concourse B

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at Denver International Airport and I triedto find a little quiet spot and I
found this nice little nook and apparentlyten seconds ago they just decided this is
where the custovial cart must have park. So I am and now I'm like
standing in front of Wolfgang Puck andeveryone can hear me. Well, you
know what's funny is that where yougo at First of all, you're at

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the airport. I'm at work,so it is not an exciting trip to
the airport working right now, I'mon break. Okay, good, good,
excellent. I'm here for work.It's not I forget. I always
forget you work at the airport.Now, let's talk about why you are
putting your face in the political woodchipper. I'm running for Congress. Yes,

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well, I am doing it becauseI believe somebody needs to do it,
and I think that we cannot giveup on our urban communities. We
need to reach out to them.They need to be able to hear the
conversations on both sides of the aislehere are different solutions to problems and issues,
and be allowed to make up theirmind as to which way they think

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is the best way to go.So I think it's only fair that every
district in our country has somebody onboth sides at least presenting different arguments.
Anytime you have a district that iscompletely run by one party, I think
it's unfair to the people. Sothat's the prime reason I'm doing this.

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And you know, like we wantto win. I want to flip this
seat. And that's not something thatwe've really had a lot of conversations about
in our campaign until recently. We'vebrought some people on and we're going at
this as to how can we reachthe people in Denver and how can we
have a winning argument and convince enoughpeople to vote for crazy me as the

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Republican. And let's know you,when you say crazy Republicans, people think
like George Santos, So don't putyourself or Marjorie Tanna Green And you're not
in either of those categories. Solet's walk that back from the ledge there.
Yes, I should introduce myself.Let's go back to non white ladies.
Well, and that's in the district, in the first congressional district.

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What is the demographic makeup of thatdistrict? Do you know, I mean,
off the top of your head roughlywhat the district is made of.
I don't have the numbers right infront of me, but Denver there are
two groups that kind of I thinkfocusing on might be able to make a
change. That we have a verywe have a much younger voting based than
most districts in Colorado because the populationof Denver tends to be younger. We

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have a lot of millennials here.We also have a very high Latino population
in Denver, and I do believethat in talking to them, you know,
the Latino population can be won over, I think, And I don't
have any numbers or anything to backthis up. It's just what I think,
what's happened in Pueblo and how Pueblohas recently. They have a Republican

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mayor. They have several seats inPueblo that flipped to Republican, and I
think it's because there's a high Hispanicpopulation in Pueblo who were willing to look
at Republicans as an option. They'renot as hardcore Democrats as some other populations.
Well, I just pulled up thelatest census date I could find quickly,

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and it is a twenty nine percentHispanic, eight percent Black, and
then fifty four percent white. Soyou still have a white population, but
they are younger than a lot ofplaces are the median ages thirty five and
the median agent there are Colorado isthirty seven, whereas in the US is
thirty nine. So what kind ofjust a little longer, Yeah, what

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kind of conversations are you having withvoters as you're working through the district.
Well, we've gone out to severalevents I think I had mentioned before.
We went to the Denver Marsh Powwowand we had a booth. We recently
had a booth set up at Cincode Mayo downtown, and we're just kind
of talking to the population and seeingwhat concerns do they have. At both

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events and some other events I've goneto, we take this big notepad,
one of those giant like three footnotepads and markers, and just encourage people
to write on there what concerns you, and we let them write whatever they
want. And the majority I've foundare concerned with the cost of living,
especially housing. That that's the primeconcern I've found the people in Denver is

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how expensive it is getting to livein the city of Denver. I was
at one event and another said thatshe's concerned that in the future her children
will not be able to afford tolive here with her, they're going to
have to move away, right,And that's probably true because it is expensive
here, and you know, youngpeople have the same concerns. I did

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a brunch yesterday. I lovely familyopened up their home. They have two
college age sons, and they hadtheir friends come over and a bunch of
young people who are probably all undertwenty five to like eighteen, eighteen to
twenty five, and so we hada good conversation and I actually found a
lot of these this younger generation arewilling to talk to Republicans and listen to

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Republicans. They're not as crazy crazyliberal Luya, Yeah, as I think
we think young people are. Youknow who is Isabelle Brown is? I
know the name. She wrote abook recently and I forget what it's called,
like a to z something about agen Zer who'sservative and she's very influential.

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I had a chance to meet hera few weeks ago, and she's
very optimistic about the younger generation.Then I asked her, like, what
how can I talk to gen zand get them to listen to you?
And she said, just be honestwith them, Just tell them fact and

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be honest because the younger generations hasso much propaganda thrown at them that if
you're just honest with them about everythingand just give them facts and details,
they will respect that and they'll appreciatethat that could be true. Great advice,
Valtimore. I mean, when whenpeople talk about things like the cost
of living in Colorado and housing specifically, I don't know what you, as

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a member of Congress could do tohelp them, you know, because those
are all local issues, are you. Yeah, when it comes to the
cost of living housing, it isvery much going to be up to your
local officials and state officials. Thewhole property tax, the backle we have
right now is a mess regarding that. I think at a federal level,

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if the prime concern is going tobe the fact that we're spending so much
money and the dollars being inflated sothe value goes down, it just makes
everything more expensive. And when itcomes to housing, we look at the
cost of building materials and I don'thave those numbers in front of me either,
said, I'm in the middle ofthe airport, but they I've seen

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reports where they show, like howmuch more it costs to build a house
now because of the cost of woodand lumber going up on another thing that's
going to add to the cost ofhousing going up. So at a federal
level, we need to get federalspending under control and balance the budget.
I know that's a monumental mammot thingtake on. But when I was at

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this event yesterday talking to the youngpeople, if one of them had asked,
well, what bill would you passto do that? And so I
was talking about passing if we putout a bill that is for a balanced
budget. And I think we doneed to put out bills that are single
subjects because then everyone's going to haveto vote on it and it will be
known who voted for it and whovoted against right, and then the people

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of America need to see that anddecide is this someone I want to send
back. When they passed these giantomnibus bills where there's there are a thousand
pages long and cover a thousand subjects, it's easy to hide what you voted.
And that's precisely why they passed them. I mean, that's why we
have omoious bills, because they putin all the all the grift in there

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so people they can buy votes.Yeah, that's one of the things that
makes me very angry, those buildsBaltimore. Tell people I'm up against the
break. Tell people about the eventthis weekend and when they can come out
and meet you. Yes, Sotomorrow we're having a campaign kickoff in the
middle of Denver. It's going tobe at the Estorts Grant Avenue Community Center

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to sixteen South Grant from five pmto seven pm. There's no charge to
get in. I would love tohave as many people there as possible.
There's gonna be a lot of fun. We're gonna have other candidates there,
do some fun things. I've allowedtwo people here in Denver to ask me
twenty one question anything they want,and I will see if I regret giving

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them that freedom tomorrow. But Isaid, twenty one questions, anything you
want, I'll answer them. Ofcourse, we won't have time for discussion
and we'll move on. But itis to follow up questions. There you
go. There will be no followup questions to any of these twenty one
questions. Well, I put Valdemar'sevent information on the blog today, so
you can go and find it atmandy'sblog dot com. Valdemar, get back

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to work and I will talk toyou soon. All right, thank you,
very thank you, Yeah, thankyou. That is valdemar Arch letter.
Will be right back. I havean interview with Nellie and I'm gonna
fangirl all over Nelly Bulls. Nowwho is Nelly Bulls? She writes the
magnificent TGIF column every Friday in theFreepress dot com, and she's got a

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new book out that is so good. Do you I read entirely too many
Excuse me, I have a frogentirely too many nonfiction books, right,
And if I'm honest, I readthe beginning of a lot of nonfiction books.

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Many times. I don't make itpast the halfway point once I give
it like three or four chapters.If I just don't love it, I'm
not going to continue reading it.But this book is so entertaining because she
writes about I would put it likethis, And I'll tell you, guys,
you know if you were ever aliberal in your life? And I

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mean you know, I say jokingly, but I'm being very serious when I
say I was a dirty foot hippieliberal in college. And then there are
inflection points in my life that Ican look back on and recognize when my
more conservative sensibility kicked in. Andit's not that I didn't have a conservative
sensibility before I became a dirty foothippie liberal because my dad was super conservative,

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whereas my mom was very liberal.But you know, my dad worked
really hard and more hard than mymom did to sort of instill his value
system in us. Now, youhave to understand, my parents divorced when
I was in fifth grade, partlybecause of the things that I'm telling you
now. That being said, thereare inflection points that happened throughout my adult
life that made me realize that theliberal policies that I had been espousing just

(29:42):
stopped making sense to me. Theyit just got baffling. One of those
instances was at a take Back theNight event. When I started at Florida
State in the late eighties, therewas there had been a spate of sexual
assaults at night on campus, sothey had these big takes Back the Night
events and they were all handing outcondoms and feminist power in all this crap,

(30:06):
you know, as only they cando on a college campus. And
I was at a meeting with abunch of women one night and they were
talking about how it was how wehad to change men. This was the
conversation, we have to change men, because even if you're naked in bed
with a guy, if you changeyour mind and say no, he has
to respect you. And I'm sittingthere and I'm like, that's great if

(30:32):
you have a magic wand that canyou know, change society with one suite?
And I stood up and I said, should we not be explaining to
freshman girls that it's probably a badidea to get drunk and go home with
a guy you don't know. Imean, isn't that what we're talking?
And I got I got yelled outof the room because I was trying to

(30:52):
fix something that I could control.Right, I can talk to young women
about not doing not putting yourself ina position where you are more likely to
be assaulted, and don't take thatas blame. That's not what that is.
This is about helping young women knowhow to be safe. Right,
It's a safety type thing. Andthat was one of my vague inflection points.
And this book is a lot ofher inflection points as she goes through

(31:15):
all of this Stuff's got an interviewwith her coming up next. We'll be
right back after this. My guesttoday is someone that I fan girl over
every single Friday when her column TGIFcomes out in the Free Press. It
is wildly entertaining, super sarcastic,but also extremely informative in a very you
just heard it out a cocktail partykind of way. But it's even better

(31:38):
now because she's got a book outcalled Morning After the Revolution Dispatches from the
Wrong Side of History. Nelly Bowls, Welcome to the show. It is
such a pleasure to be here.And I love that description of TGIF.
It is a still party level knowledgebecause often that's my level of knowledge of
the various news topics of the day. Is like it's like basically a couple

(31:59):
lines from a party. Well,you know what, Really, that's what
most people want, isn't it.Nobody wants. Nobody wants a nine thousand
word column anymore. Okay, nobodywants like, oh, let me turn
to page a forty seven to continuereading. Nobody wants to do that anymore.
So I want to ask you alittle bit to give us my audience
a little bit of background about you, because I think that the book almost
kind of gets to the end firstin a weird way. Of your story

(32:22):
and I don't want to put wordsin your mouth, but how would you
describe your career, first of all, because you've been in journalism for a
long time, And then we'll kindof touch on how you've sort of it
evolved over the last few years intowhere you are now at the Free Press,
where I really think you guys arekind of undefinable in a really cool
way. Yeah, I started.I started the San Francisco Chronicle as a

(32:45):
local reporter and then made my wayup eventually to the Times. And I
was a successful young reporter at theNew York Times. I was doing really
well. I was getting on thefront page regularly. I was doing investigations
and big features. And as twentytwenty and twenty twenty one came, my

(33:07):
role became harder because my curiosity hadalways been rewarded and mostly I was curious
about the rise of Trump in thevarious factions and tech world silliness. But
as twenty twenty and twenty from onecame, there were a lot of news
stories that were happening that weren't maybenecessarily good for the Democratic Party, but
they were really interesting anyway, andI wanted to cover them, and that

(33:30):
became a real challenge within the paper, and it became a real challenge within
basically all mainstream American institutions. Andso I went very quickly from being a
happy, young progressive going along withthe flow to feeling really outside the movement
and being told I was outside themovement for my curiosity because I wanted to

(33:53):
cover, let's say, what wasgoing on in Seattle with Antifa BLM group
taking over a neighborhood, or orI wanted to cover some of the silliness
in the modern anti racism movement.Or I wanted all of these things.
So eventually I left The Times.I wrote this book, which is more

(34:13):
or less the reporting and features thatI would have done as a reporter at
the Times but couldn't. And mywife and I started this new media company,
the Free Press, which I sortof claimed that we both started together,
but she really started. She's verywhite, She's amazing. And then
once I saw that it was takingoff and it wasn't just a little news

(34:34):
letter, then I joined it,and then I was like, Okay,
let's do this. I was thething we're doing together. Then I was
like, then I was like westarted together, and I was doing like
business managing for a little while.I set up our first year accounting completely
wrong, like I screwed up somuch basic stuff. But I set up
our website well whatever. It wasa mess. But now it's turned into

(34:57):
a little media company and we publisha lot of different stories and we try
to have the freedom of the newworld, the freedom of this sort of
sub stack chaos of new blogs andchaos of new curious media companies with the
values and the standards of the oldworld. It basically fact what you're doing

(35:21):
is called journalism, and it isIt is an industry that has been in
decline because of ideological capture. Andas a right wing talk show host,
I talk about this stuff all thetime. And that's going to get me
to your book, which, bythe way, I picked up and could
not put down. I read thefirst three quarters of it in like two
hours because it was so good.But there have been many times in my

(35:43):
talk radio career when I've said,damn, I would have liked to have
been a fly on the wall forthat conversation. That's what this book is.
This is like the Keys to theKingdom. This tells people on the
right who look at some of thestuff that happens on the left and go
I can't even follow that logic,like this, this is it, this
is the book, This is whatyou got read it tells you. I

(36:06):
wanted to write about the movement,first of all, from within the movement,
in part because I was within themovement. And so when I write
about cancel culture, I write aboutcanceling a friend, and I wanted to
write about it without flattening it.I'm just letting my dog out now.
I told you should be a problem. I wanted to write about the movement
without flattening it, and to showthe complexity and to not just say,

(36:30):
oh, look at this silly thing. And now I'm on the other side
because I feel complicated about it,And so throughout I try to both describe
it as now a little bit ofan outspider, and describe it and the
humor and let it breathe as akind of funny movement at times, like

(36:52):
it's funny that San Francisco banned eighthgrade algebra and what came out of that,
Like that, that's kind of funny. So I try to describe that
and try to offer what it feelslike to be within it, and why
why it won in many ways,why progressivism has beaten liberalism in so many

(37:14):
situations, why why it struck sucha chord, Because I think it's easy
to just say this is bad orthis is dumb, but you have to
wrestle with why it was successful.Well, for me, one of the
things that came across in this bookis that far more than I have experienced,
and I'm not saying it doesn't happenon the right, but far more
than I've experienced, that the politicsof progressivism it almost becomes like, and

(37:39):
I shudder to use this because it'sgoing to be inflammatory, but it seems
like the same place in a person'slife that Islam has in a country that
is run by Muslims. Because it'snot just politics, it's your lifestyle,
your social circle, the things thatyou believe are in lockstep with everyone else
that you know. So if you'vecome off that way of thinking, you

(38:01):
risk losing everything. It's not justoh, I've changed my mind on this
issue, it's I'm not going tobe ostracized from the people that I care
about. It. It's very powerful, and I think you're right that there
is a little bit of a religiousimpulse within it, and it's not it
makes sense that this would rise ata time when organized religion has fallen yeap.

(38:22):
So there's definitely that, and there'sa desire for purity within it.
Like if we talked about let's say, cancel culture, cancel culture was a
movement within progressivism. It was neverabout canceling a Trumper. There were no
trumpers in those spaces. It wasnever about canceling someone from the outside because
there wasn't like some a real,actual person with different beliefs nearby. If

(38:45):
you're talking about academia journalism, itwas about purifying the movement and saying any
dissident voice within journalism, within academia, any voice that's not with the movement
one hundred and ten percent, weneed to find them and we need to
out them. They're dangerous. Andit's a movement obsessed with purity. And

(39:08):
that's what makes it ultimately, Ithink, in part successful, because it's
it's very there's a lot of messagediscipline and in part then antithetical to a
lot of American liberal values which arequite different, which are American liberalism is

(39:30):
based in the idea of different peoplegetting together and talking and debating and compromising.
Well, and it was going toask who are the deciders because it
seems the standard is always shifting,right, it's always on shifting sands.
But my question is is who getsto be the one that says, oh,
no, no, this is good, this is bad. You are
oppressed, you are not like who'sthe decider in that situation. There's not

(39:53):
like a grand boss behind the curtainsthe boss, there's not a booba.
It's more of a communal decision.I think over the years it's been hammered
out who are the like there's aconcept called the progressive stack. Oh,
and progressive stack is the idea thatthe most privileged person who wants to contribute

(40:16):
to the conversation should contribute last,the least privileged person should contribute first.
And you kind of have to figureout in the middle who's where. You
know, does the gay person gobefore the Asian person who's more privileged,
Well, if he's disabled then ornot, all disabilities are visible. So

(40:37):
it's a very it's a very delicatedance, I would say, but people
do try to do the dance andfigure out who's in front and who's behind.
But no there's not like a GrandPooba who's exciting all this. It's
a movement. It's a grassroots movement. Nelly I, for years as a
right leading person on the radio,have called the progressive you know stack that

(40:59):
you were just talking about the victimideology pyramid, and it's everybody's trying to
race to the top or bottom,depending on your perspective of that pyramid by
having one or more afflictions. Right, if you're male, you better be
gay at a minimum, okay,And you need to be disabled, but
not from military service. So there'slike all these caveats that have to be

(41:20):
And I've made fun of this foryears, and to hear you talk about
it as something that actually exists asa point of seriousness where people are really
genuinely so concerned about hurting someone else'sfeelings that this is how they live,
it sounds exhausting. It is partof it comes from a place of reality.

(41:43):
So there is a reality that whenyou're in a room around a table,
men often will talk over women,and so acknowledging that and working around
that is something that doesn't to mestrike me as crazy. And I think
a lot of this comes from kernelsof right right colonels where you're like,
yeah, men do sometimes talk overwomen in a boardroom, and that isn't

(42:05):
right, And then it's taken toa place of silliness and absurdity. But
there is there's a kernel there's thatmakes sense. It's like there's a kernel
in the idea that, Okay,the SAT shouldn't be the only thing we
judge college admissions by. Okay,yeah, sure of course not. There's
other things about a person that mightmake them academically successful. But then the

(42:30):
movement takes out and says, okay, we need to abolish the SAT.
It's a racist. The whole thingis race. We got scrapping, and
let's say what abolished the police.The liberal response to police being to police
using violence too easily, to policebeing inappropriate, acting racists, doing different

(42:52):
bad things that cops do do.The liberal response is to say, we
should pay cops more, we shouldtrain them, we should make it a
more appealing job actually to get ahigher quality candidate to be a cop.
The progressive response is abolish the police, get rid of the cops altogether.

(43:12):
And that's it ends up in anirrational place, but it starts from a
kernel of true of truth there feelsto be. And I'm not asking you
to speak for the progressive movement.I think you've done a great job in
a rather dispassionate way in this bookNelly's book Morning After the Revolution Dispatches from

(43:35):
the Wrong Side of History. Ithink you do a great job of really
dispassionately kind of describing the scene likeyou're the fly on the wall. That's
why I use that analogy, eventhough you're a player in this stuff.
But for those of us on theright, the thing that we don't understand,
and this is something that I tryto understand. There's so much to
your point. It's not about saying, look, we've got the US Constitution,
which has been a pretty dang gooddocument. We should try to make

(44:00):
sure that this country is living upto all of those ideals. Right.
It seems like some many on theprogressive laughter like tear it down, burn
it all down, start over.This has been pretty dang good, even
though we failed in those areas.I think more people realistically sit in the
center somewhere where they're like, yeah, we really haven't done the best job

(44:20):
making sure that everybody has that samestandard. But it's been pretty good.
You know, I think that's wheremost people live, don't you. Most
Americans are Yeah, of course completely. Most Americans are reasonable, moderate,
or have a mix of political beliefsfrom both sides and kind of belong to
whatever the moh messy middle is.And most Americans are exhausted more than doctrinaire

(44:49):
at this point. Yeah, Icompletely believe that, and I think that
in a lot of ways. Imean, we can talk about it on
the right too, but on theleft of their small faction, I've managed
to take over the conversation. Butthese ideas are not wildly popular. They're
just very successfully dominated in a lotof these elite spaces. But it's not

(45:12):
mainstream. It's not even popular withinthese spaces. If you ask the average
New York Times reporter, they don'twant to be scared to report on something
that's not helpful to democrats. Theydon't want to be having to censor what
they see and think about. That'snot your average Times reporter even it's that
a movement within places like The Times, like NPR, like all these liberal

(45:34):
spaces that used to be sort ofnormal liberal and now are a little crazy
liberal. The movement has very successfullyscared the majority into cohesion, into adhering
to the rules. And they've donethat in part thanks to social media.
I think Twitter played a huge rolein creating this false sense of discipline,

(45:55):
this false I mean a real senseof discipline, but a false sense of
consent. Well, we're letting theloudmouths win exactly. Yeah, and a
few activists who bully people into thinkingthat only the most left wing position is
the appropriate position. I think ithappens on the right too, where it's
like anyone more and more. Yeah, And it's like it's like most conservatives

(46:20):
don't believe in every single plank ofevery Republican. It's absurd. We're humans,
we have complicated politics. Well,Nelly Bowls. You can read her
column TGIF the Outstage. Really Iheard that the Free Press was founded as
a platform just for TGIF. Like, that's I don't know who you're hanging
out with, but you hang outwith my people. They tell different stories.

(46:40):
And now she's written a fantastic book. I put a link on the
blog to both of these things,her column and to buy the book.
The book is such a great read. It is a perfect summer read.
It's like political but light at thesame time, so you don't have to
be overwhelmed. But it's just fantastic, Nelly. I remain a huge fan
and I'm a subscriber, and youknow, I hope you guys continue to

(47:01):
just crush it and continue doing whatyou're doing at the Free Press. I
love it. I love what thewriters that you're bringing in, the coverage
that you're doing. It is itspeaks to me and I am definitely to
the right of you, and Iappreciate that so much. So thanks for
making time for us today, andI'm so glad you're a reader and it's
so good to meet you. God. I love her. I love her,

(47:23):
and I you know, I realizethat obviously she's to the left of
most of this audience, but I'mtelling you, this book is fantastic.
There's this kind of bubbling up ofpeople on the left, and I hope
that I am I am able tobe that person on the right that are

(47:44):
starting to look at everything that's wrongwith our respective parties and say this is
not good enough. I'm not famouslike Bill Maher. You know, I
don't have a following like the FreePress does, and thank goodness, they
do because they're doing real journalism andit's outstanding. There's two things that I
urge you to subscribe to if youdon't subscribe to anything else. Number One,
the Denver Gazette. This is nota paid endorsement, but I read

(48:06):
the Denver Gazette first every single day. Their reporting, for the most part,
is very fair. Sometimes they ve'rea little too far into a a
you know, the left lane thatI'm happy with. But you know what,
not every report's gonna be as squareup as I'd like it to be.
In their editorial page lins to theright. It's a great combination for
local Denver coverage and then the freepress, because the free press is now

(48:30):
sort of gathering up these journalists whoare tired of being told you can't do
that story, We're not gonna letyou talk about that, or you know,
we're not gonna report on this.I mean, when you read Nellie's
book, what becomes a Parent isthe level of control that exists within the
progressive movement, and I honestly believeit is because they are the loud ones.

(48:53):
There was a story in the newstoday about the University of Denver in
and I, you know, I'mdone talking about it. I'm done giving
these idiots any oxygen. I reallyam not going to entertain fools anymore.
And as a matter of fact,I have breakfast with my good friend Peter
Boyles. Many of you know himfrom his decades of being on the radio,

(49:16):
and I said, Peter, meand I've just been super cranky lately.
And when you look at the waythings are going, not just in
the United States. I'm not tryingto be you know, down on the
US, but across the world,it seems like there are so many hotspots
that are of great significance. Let'sbe real, what's going on in Israel

(49:36):
could very easily spread to a muchwider war. You've got Russian aggression,
You've got China now flexing on Taiwanat the same time that we are in
the process of spending ourselves into oblivion. And I'm bringing all this stuff up,
I realize, which is negative.But when you consume all of that

(49:57):
media all the time, and Ido getting ready for the show, Like,
what kind of talk shows would Ibe if I didn't consume it,
even if I don't talk to it, talk about it, you guys,
I am consuming it. Because whensomething actually happens with Triina and Taiwan,
I want to be able to say, well, they've been ramping this up
since this date. Okay, sothat's neither here nor there. And I
said Peter, I just don't thinkit's good radio. I just think maybe

(50:19):
in Grubby is not good radio.And he was like, yeah, it's
not. It's not It's not theway to go about it. So I'm
doing my best to not bring myhigh level of stress and paranoia about the
state of the world to the show. We will be talking about things,
but I'm really going to be sortof trying to find a more solutions oriented
means of talking about stuff. Sodon't get me wrong, I'm still going

(50:40):
to make fun of stuff that Ithink is stupid. That's still gonna happen.
That's actually probably the most entertaining part. But man, I realized it
was just it was starting to getme down. And so I'm checking myself,
and I'm checking myself on the air. And if you guys see stories
that you think I should be talkingabout that are either cool or stupid or
whatever, then send him to me, because I've got a couple of them

(51:01):
on the blog. Already. Iwant to go through the blog real quick.
Ross today, bang up job readingthe headlines. I was very proud
of Ross this morning. When ifyou missed the beginning of the show,
I was caught in a traffic jamon I twenty five, so we Ross
carried the load and I was onthe phone. But I want to go
through some stuff on the blog becauseI do have some really cool stuff.

(51:22):
I do have a story that's onthe blog for no other reason than I
wanted to be able to write theheadline that I wrote and let me see,
Wow, this is a long blog. I didn't mean to make it
that long. Sorry, Ross,Well, I didn't know Ross was women
arrested after sinnimon roll attack details Whenwe returned, I do want to read

(51:45):
you something from Nelly Bowls's TGIF column, just give you a little taste of
what she's about over there at theTGIF. But I love the content of
this section so much and I wantto do it before we get too far
away from that interview. In thissection of the TGIF newsletter, it says
Legends Never die. President Ibraham Risiof Iran, a man who was in

(52:08):
line to be Supreme Leader died ina helicopter crash this week, and the
Western elite lowered their flags to halfstaff. He was known lovingly, I
assume, as the Butcher of Tehran. He's responsible for subjecting tens of thousands
of people to arbitrary arrests and detentions, inforced disappearance, torture and other ill

(52:30):
treatment, grossly unfair trials and punishments, violating the prohibition of torture, and
other ill treatment such as flogging,amputation, and stoning. But to Western
elites, anyone who hates us alot is kind of hot right now.
If he's chanted death to America,we're into him. If he kills thousands

(52:51):
of dissonance as part of a fundamentalistreligious revival, that's him really putting ancient
indigenous values into practice. Ibraham Raisiresided over famous five minute trials during and
after the Revolution, where someone's crimeswere announced and debated and then they'd be
killed. But that reads is prettymoderate now in faculty lounger and newsrooms,

(53:13):
A trial in those places last thirtyseconds flat, since that's enough time to
see that. Yes, she worea sombrero once in college, and yes,
he asked her on a date twice. Those extra minutes show the generosity
in Ibraham Rayci soul. I loveher, I do love her. Now
onto the story of the day.It comes out of you. Guessed at

(53:35):
Florida, of course, copsay andMarie Luna chucked a cinnamon roll at the
back of a forty nine year oldvictim's head, striking him in the base
of the neck. The cinnamon roleincident occurred at a transitional housing facility in
Saint Petersburg, Florida. The arrestwarrant does not reveal the motive for the

(53:57):
alleged cinnamon role attack, which wasrecorded by security cameras. After being read
or writes, Luna reportedly admitted totossing the delicacy. The effidavit indicates no
weapons were seized by investigators. Thevictim was not injured by the cinnamon roll,
but wishes to prosecute anyway. Chargedwith misdemeanor battery, Luna was booked
into county jail. She was releasedlast night after posting a five hundred dollars

(54:22):
bond. While a judge has orderedLuna to stay away from the victim,
she is still legally permitted to havecontact with frosted pastries. You know,
never let it be said, youcan ban guns, but what are we
going to ban cinnamon rolls? Isthat what we First of all, there
here's my question. Who wastes thecinnamon roll? Like? What's wrong with

(54:42):
you? Cinnamon rolls are my secondfavorite breakfast pastry item. My first is
biscuits, and then it goes cinnamonrolls, and then it goes waffles,
and then it goes pancakes. Giveme your carbohydrate paste free breakfast items and
order, please, Jeff. I'msure you've thought about it as much as
I have. I haven't, butI'm around that same order. Yeah,

(55:06):
I might go cinnamon rolls number one, though I think cinnamon rules have a
more special feel to them, likemy day on the daily. You know,
I'm going to be a biscuit person, although I will say this,
the only biscuits that I feel likeare passable in the Denver metro area as
far as quality Southern. Like you, if somebody's grandma gave you these,

(55:28):
you would not give her the sideeye. Kind of biscuits in the South
are at the Denver Biscuit Company.Their biscuits are oh my god, those
are so good. Thank god,there's not one of those places closer to
me. Sometimes we drive down tothe Springs from from Douglas County to go
to the one down. Thank god, there's not one closer to me than
that, because oh, oh mygoodness, oh my goodness. When I

(55:52):
go to Belgium. By the way, we're going to Belgium as part of
our Norwy trip. We are goingto a class to learn how to make
Belgian water. And I'm kind ofexcited because, if I could brag on
myself for a second, I makeincredibly good waffles. I mean, I
separate the eggs, I whipped thewhites into a foamy substance that I then
fold in with the other batter andthey are So I'm interested to find out

(56:17):
if my waffles are you know,on point, somebody said French toast is
my number one. I like Frenchtoast, but you know, the only
time I get French toast is whenI'm at a breakfast buffet. That's the
only time I ever get, youknow, cause I don't know. I
don't know. This one is ohcaramel rolls. Oh no, forgot about

(56:39):
caramel rolls. I didn't have thoseever in my life until I went to
Rapid City, South Dakota, andthat's like the thing. They're like,
oh yeah, we got world famouscarmel rolls. I'm like, well,
they're not that famous because I've neverheard of them. I've never had any
of it. But let's ratchet itback to maybe South Dakota famous. How
about that they are? Oh,they're like they're cinnamon roll ish, but

(57:00):
instead of being cinnamon rolls, youmake like a brown sugar caramel because of
course I came home and made themafter I had them there. You make
a brown sugar and you put themupside down and then you flip the whole
pan over, so they're kind oflike upside down caramel. Oh my goodness,
they're so good. Sour cream coffeecake. That's a good one.
Pancakes, biscuits. Now I'm justmaking myself hungry because you know, I

(57:25):
didn't have any of these. Uhoh see now, person on the text
line, you think that you aremy friend by telling me that there's a
Denver biscuit company a county line inQuebec. You think that you are helping
me, but you are not.You are the exact opposite of helping me.
Because we went hiking on Sunday.We hiked for about an hour and

(57:50):
forty five minutes. It was agreat hike. We had a nice time.
And after that hike, I waslike, today, you know,
let's go to the Denver biscuit Company. That kind of stuff. So if
it's close now I have to exercisemore to counterbalance it. Waffles are like
kids. The first one never comesout quite right. That is exactly right.
Text her, You know why,because it's never hot enough. We're

(58:12):
never patient enough. Mandy. Howabout peanut butter toast for breakfast? I
love peanut butter toast, but nowI'm at the point in my life where
I'm trying to eat more responsibly,so I only eat the natural peanut butter,
you know what I mean. AndI have to put a little honey
on it, just a little tinyto get it in there. So yeah,

(58:32):
what other breakfast carbohydrates are there?I think we got toast. I
mean toast toast in and of itselfI enjoy. I mean, just a
really good bread toast. You're goodto go. I've given up bagels because
I know how many carbohydrates they have, just I can't enjoy it. Anymore.
I can have half a bagel andstill feel like, dang, that

(58:53):
was too much bread. Just toomuch bread. Hey, Mandy, it's
Anton. That's my former FedEx driveruntil they change this route. And I'm
still pretty salty about that. Definitely, French toast first, and then waffles
and then pancakes. Also, Idon't know why everybody was complaining about the
property tax increase. I got aletter last night, and if we just

(59:15):
send five thousand dollars to them,our mortgage payment is only going to go
up by two hundred and thirty dollars. I've never felt so lucky in all
my life. You know how tolook on the bright side. Anton,
Just five thousand dollars, No bigwhoop. Everybody's got that laying around.
Just check your pants pockets, checkthe pockets to your FedEx shorts. There,
Anton, I bet you're gonna findleast you know, twenty five hundred

(59:37):
just shoved in there. Lige wafflesand Brussels are awesome. I think that's
what we're going to be making.We're going on a beer and waffles tour
to do some Belgian beer and thenwe're using the beer in the waffle mix.
Super excited about this. It willall be available on my Instagram page
for you to find out how thatgoes, although you will not be able

(59:57):
to taste the delicious Waffles County Linein Quebec. Yeah, it's the Atomic
Cowboy restaurant, but in the morningit's the Denver Biscuit Company and then it
turns into a pizza place. Otherbreakfast carbs are muffins and scones. Scones
are just British biscuits. Can wejust be real about that. They're triangular
British biscuits. But they're not asgood, not at all. So yeah,

(01:00:22):
stop telling me how to get tothe Denver Biscuit Company faster. People
are not my friends. We're notfriends anymore. I'm moving away from the
cinnamon roll attack, which I thoughtwas hilarious. But if you got to
hit with this one of those bigJohnson Corners cinnamon rolls, like you know,
you can hurt somebody with that.If you threw it like underhand,
like fast pitched softball underhand, youcould cause some real damage. Now,

(01:00:45):
you guys, Carbs for breakfasts aregross. You know what. I don't
like the way I feel after carbsfor breakfast, but they are delicious.
This is why this is one ofthose things where I'm pretty sure sometimes I
think God hates us because why doeshe make them all so delicious and make
me feel so bad after eating them? I'm just kidding, God, I
know you love us. JK God? Is that if we're talking strictly carbs

(01:01:09):
and not pastry, then it's definitelyhash browns for the win. I put
breakfast potatoes in their own category.I feel like that's like a whole other
thing because breakfast potatoes. Do youhave to ask the question? It's like,
do you want hashbrowns or breakfast potatoes? You're like, well, I'm
gonna need to know. Tell meabout your breakfast potatoes. Let's talk.
Are they slices? Are they chunks? Are their onions? What are we

(01:01:29):
talking about here? Can I getthem crispy? If I wanted them that
way? Can't just take it willynilly? You have to, you know,
ask some follow up questions. Hmm, breakfast sounds great? Now,
got a couple of stories that Iwant to cover. Give me my audio
for my computer, please, justjeff in for a rod today. I

(01:01:51):
want to play this so yesterday.Donald Trump has a rally in the Bronx.
This I don't want. It's certainlyunprecedented in the modern era. Okay
for a president to show up inthis part of the Bronx, and I
want to share with you. Uh. The interviewer is asking an African American

(01:02:13):
man. I would guess he's thirty, but sometimes with black men, they
could be thirty, they could beseventy. They look the same age wise,
which is good on you black menof a congrats on that one.
But they asked him what he wasdoing there, and this is what he
had to say. I'm here towell to my star, the Trump gathering

(01:02:34):
valley here. What do you thinkabout it? Me here? I think
it is great. I think it'sdope. I fell from my generation.
From what I know, this isthe first time president has actually came to
the Hood. I know presidents havecame to the Bronx before, but we're
talking about Woodlawn, Riverdale. Hehas came to Marrisania, South Bronx,
the hood hood. So I respectthat. And if you look at the

(01:02:59):
actual photographs of the rally, it'sthe coverage of this rally has been really
interesting. It's certainly not the largestrally that Trump has ever had. It
looks well attended. I mean,if you are a normal candidate, I
will say this far bigger than anyaudience that I've seen for Joe Biden up
to this point. And I'm notjust trying to knock Joe Biden, but

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I'm just telling you what i've seen. That being said, his appearance in
the Bronx has been treated almost territoriallyby the left like what are you doing
in my hood? It's like,well, you've been to your hood lately.
It's not that good, which ishow we come in here and say
hello. But the reason I bringthis up is this is the attitude that

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every Republican should have that African Americanand Latino votes can be won, but
you have to work to win them. You have to be the one to
present your message. You have tobe the one to go in and ask
for their votes. You have tobe the one to lay out a vision
on how the policies that you thinkare right are going to positively impact the

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people living in communities that quite frankly, Republicans generally don't go to. You
know, we hear this all thetime when we hear from candidates like Valdemar
Archiletta was on with us earlier inthe show, and he's running for the
first congressional district. This is asafe Democratic seat. But yet, you
know what, Valdemar does not fitinto a box when it comes to the

(01:04:29):
kind of Republican he is. Heis Native American and Mexican of those descents.
He's a gay man. He doesn'tfit into the nice, little,
you know box that the left winghas created for Republicans to live in.
So the fact that he's out theretalking to people and trying to say,
look, here's why the policies thatI'm talking about would be right for your

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community is very important. And yousee what happens when Donald Trump shows up
in the South Bronx and the crowdwas still majority white, but there was
a lot of lot more minority facesin the crowd than there has been at
other Trump rallies. So it's almostlike, if you build it, they

(01:05:11):
will come right. I mean,if you if you there's got to be
at least a certain level of curiosityin people when you say, look,
the former president of the United Statesis coming to talk to us, and
that's the best way to get theirattention to say and here's what I would
like to do for you, andnot do for you. But but you
know, if we embraced a policyof smaller government, smaller government spending,

(01:05:32):
that would have a real impact oninflation, a significant impact impact on inflation
right away when you look at thespending government spending as a percentage of GDP
from World War Two. At theend of World War Two, there was
pushback as people wanted to rein inthe rate of government spending. There were

(01:05:56):
noted and esteemed economists who came outand said, if we cut spending,
we're going to destroy the economy.But they did it anyway because it was
the right thing to do, andthe economy boomed after World War Two in
a way that brought us the largestgeneration, the Baby Boomers that were all
born during that period. Well theywere born a little bit before, but
that period of prosperity was significant.It ran for a long time. So

(01:06:23):
I'd love it if we took moreopportunities to talk to two, three,
five, ten, fifty, youknow, one hundred people who have never
heard why these policies would be betterfor them, and try and make the
case instead of just seating so muchterritory to the Democrats, and this is
a long game thing. This isnot a short game thing. But something's

(01:06:44):
got to give because the Democratic Partydoesn't care. They don't seem to anyway,
based on their policies. We'll beright back with the two minute drill
right after this. The VA hasapproved twenty thousand claims for Colorado veterans exposed
to toxic chemicals doing the war.This is from the mansion in healthcare from
the Federal Packed Act, which wassigned into law two years ago. Specifically,

(01:07:06):
it's called the Promise to Address ComprehensiveToxics Act, and it was designed
to address the impacts of burn pitsand the soldiers that oversaw the burn pits
in Iraq in Afghanistan where they wereburning chemicals and tires and I don't even
know and standing there sucking in thefumes. Now, the reason I bring
this up is a we have aton of veterans in our listening audience and

(01:07:28):
in Colorado. But I also wantto make a note that if not for
John Stewart, this probably wouldn't havegotten done. And the military is famous
for doing stuff to soldiers and thendenying that they did that stuff to soldiers.
Asian Orange is a great example.So I'm just pleased that veterans are

(01:07:48):
able to get some kind of carewithin their lifetimes instead of the VA just
waiting until they die. Anyway,that's all that story is. If you
are headed out to the airport,word and you're flying out of the new
concourse A area, get ready.Finally their businesses, their their concessions are
finally opening up. Pete's Coffee,Elways, tap Room and Grill, and

(01:08:12):
Taco's Tequila's Whiskey for They debuted onThursday in the Concord A West expansion.
The new Concord areas are really reallynice. But if you're going to the
airport this weekend, holy cow,you better leave early. It too.
If you're headed out on the waterthis holiday season, be prepared to have
Colorado Parks and Wildlife at those atthose boat ramps to check your watercraft because

(01:08:36):
they're inspecting them all for invasive thingslike muscles and other stuff, and so
be ready and it might take alittle while, so be patient because they
want to make sure nothing creepy andweird gets in our water supply. And
I'm okay with that too. Thisnext study is alternately super cool and super

(01:08:57):
creepy at the same time. Hearme out. So we have in the
United States a variety of AI platforms, right, we have chat GPT,
We have all these different things,and we're beginning to learn right away that
they can definitely be made to saythings with a certain bent politically based on
where they're getting their data from.Well, China sure doesn't want to have

(01:09:18):
chat GPT or any other free internetso they built their own AI. It
is called chat GPT after their leader, Jijinping. Okay, very clever chat
GPT. Here's what gets super creepyabout it. Though they have inputed a

(01:09:39):
bunch of information into the chatbot,and all of the information that they have
put in it's only been fed literatureprovided by the Cyberspace Administration of China.
The Cyberspace Administration of China or CAChas ensured that all chat bots embody course

(01:10:00):
socialist values and cannot contain any contentthis subverts state power. GPT chat bot
is actually based on the writings andthe literature around the current president because they
want it to make sure that whenyou interact with it, it is going
to give you the socialist line.Now, the government model has been trained

(01:10:24):
on a data set that draws heavilyfrom government regulations as well as policy and
state media reports. And it's justgoing to imagine this, you know,
in nineteen eighty four, which wereBy the way, the book club is
Thursday. Next Thursday is the bookclub for nineteen eighty four, so read
it over the weekend. They haveTV screens where dear Leader is on the
TV screens. That's exactly what thisis going to be. And people would

(01:10:46):
be like, dear Leader, Idon't know the rules around what I should
do in this situation, and theywill just regurgitate the talking points from the
government. Super super creepy, supercreepy. And it really is nineteen eighty
four, which we will talk aboutnext Thursday at two. Drill it too.

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Good news if you're worried about destroyingthe planet because of global warming.
NASA has discovered an earth like planetjust forty light years away. It could
be a promising host for human life. The exo planet, called Glease twelve
B We're gonna have to do somethingabout that name, is slightly smaller than
our planet and has an estimated surfacetemperature of one hundred and seven degrees fahrenheit

(01:11:33):
Glease twelve b's it's just inward ofthe habitable zone, the distance from a
star at which liquid water could existon orbiting planet surfaces and astronomers are now
planning to analyze Glease twelve B justin case we need to make our escape
it too. And finally, inthe least surprising Formers Sports Star Bankruptcy x

(01:11:58):
NFL Star, and Tonio Brown hasfiled for bankruptcy Cooper, how surprised are
you that Antonio Brown, who hasreally imploded his own career multiple times to
be given more chances than he deserved, only to implode those as well,
is now broke, as he says, and has to declare bankruptcy to get
out from under his debt. Evidentlybusiness is not booming no pour today.

(01:12:26):
Yeah, I mean, you knewit was going to happen. I could
have told you this was going tohappen two years ago. I just didn't
know the date. Now we knowthe date it's happening. Does he have
a bunch of kids? That's thething that gives me. Okay, let
me see here. And I hatethinking this as like, oh, is
he one of those athletes with allthe kids. It's such a stereotype,
but it's accurate. Let's see here, children, He's the further father of

(01:12:53):
only five children. So yeah,five kids that are all basically named something
like him. Anyway, so youknow he's broke. So if he owes
you money, you may want tocall his creditors and go ahead and get
on the list. Anyway, That, my friends, is your two minute
drill. Anyway. I have somegood videos on the blog today, very

(01:13:15):
good videos, including one that Idon't want to read too much into this.
I would play it, but it'slong and it's not you. It's
better for you to watch it.There's a show you might have heard of
on Comedy Central called The Daily Show, not exactly known for its cutting edge
comedy where democrats are the butt ofthe joke. But they did a video

(01:13:36):
on Kamala Harris's word salads and it'sreally funny. And when I read it,
I was like, oh, ohmy gosh, somebody at The Daily
Show is going to get fired.But I'm wondering if this is the beginning
of the end for the Biden Harrisadministration with the progressive left. But you

(01:13:56):
should watch it. It's very veryfunny, very funny. And then there's
a really good interview with Jarry Seinfeldwhere he talks about stuicism, working out
and coffee, and I realized I'vebecome Jerry Seinfeld without even knowing it.
We'll do more, and I've gota bunch of stuff other on the blog
that we need to talk about whenwe get back. We're going to do
that next, so hang in there. I want to talk about Memorial Day

(01:14:18):
just for a moment. I wanteveryone to have a wonderful weekend. I
want you to have a relaxing weekend. Maybe you have plans with friends,
maybe you're going to do some gardening, whatever it is you're planning. But
I would ask, and I askedthis from the bottom of my heart,
that on Monday, you just takea few minutes out of the day to
do some reflecting. You know,if you're a prayerful type, you can

(01:14:40):
pray about it, you can meditateabout it, you can send your good
thoughts into the ether or whatever youwant to do. But take a moment
to remember why we have the dayoff, and that is because brave men
and women became part of a fightingforce that were designed to protect this nation
and the freedoms that we enjoy.And it is not the time to thank
a veteran, although I hope theydon't get upset with you. But Memorial

(01:15:03):
Day is about honoring people who diedin service, not necessarily in combat,
although there are a lot of combatdead who we commemorate on Memorial Day and
just say a little prayer and aprayer of gratitude and thanks that they did
it and that we still even withall of the chaos that is happening in

(01:15:24):
our country and all the lunacy thatgoes on, I would still rather be
here than anywhere else in the world. And it's because I know that there
are brave people who stepped up todefend it. It's that important. Anything
worth having is worth fighting for.And Memorial Day is about honoring those who
paid, you know, the ultimateprice. So do that while you're enjoying

(01:15:45):
yourself on Monday, and think aboutpeople that have did not come back.
I have a weird question, couver. So I said something last night,
and after it, you know Isaid it, I heard the words and
I thought, oh, that's areally weird sentence. I wouldn't have said
twenty years ago, thirty years ago, I guess and I was talking about

(01:16:05):
something and I said, just putit in my phone. Like when I
was a kid, if you'd saidput it in your phone, that would
have been a nonsensical thing to say. But now when I say, oh,
your number, put it in myphone, it makes perfect sense.
You're like, oh, oh yeah, here, let me type my number
in. And it got me tothinking, what other things do we say?
There would have been a thing likethirty years ago. You know,

(01:16:28):
we still say things that harken backto things that don't exist. In radio.
When you want somebody to turn somethingup, you say pot it up
because of the old turnobs that weused to have that were there to modulate
the volume. And you know allof those little hang up the phone.
We don't hang up a phone anymorenow we're you know, cell phone things.
And I just bound out couver.Do you know what young people do?

(01:16:51):
What handjester do you do when yousay I'm on the phone, like
you're trying to let somebody ten feetaway know you're on the phone. What
hand gester do you use? Right? You put your thumb up, you're
pinky down like a handset The kidstoday. You know what they do.
They just put their hand by theirhead like flat, like that's their cell
phone. And that confuses me.I'm not gonna lie. I'm like,

(01:17:12):
what are you doing? Cause yourhand up. They're like, you're just
gonna lay on it. I hadnever seen that before. That made me
feel old just for a second.But I was wondering if anybody else had
made note of those things, youknow, anyone. Everyone always says,
search it up. Oh, that'sa good one too. Five six six
nine oh, is the text message, Mandy. I know it's not the

(01:17:34):
hell we're still talking about breakfast foods. You missed our whole conversation about breakfast
carbs, Mandy. I know it'snot the healthiest, but I use French
bread for French toast, fried inbacon fat. I cook my pancakes and
bacon fat too, so crispy andtasty. I'm a gee person. Clarified
butter. You get all the flavorof butter, but you don't have to

(01:17:54):
worry about it. We have ourwinner. Do we have our winner?
Yep, We've got our winner,so you can still texting. Nineteen sixty
two is the answer. That wasthe year that these statues. The guardians
of the traffic took over. Thirtytwo is what I said. No,
thirty two is what I wrote.Never mind, it's nineteen thirty two.

(01:18:14):
Just ignore the lady on the radio. She's having trouble today. I'm ready.
I've got short timers. I'm readyto be done with the rest of
the stuff and the things and thewhatnot. When we get back. I
have a fun column. I amenjoying the heck out of all of the
columns that are being written to makesure that everybody knows that when your gas
prices spike, if not on Junefirst, then shortly thereafter when we have

(01:18:40):
to take California reformulated gas, youare going to know who to blame.
I'll remind you again right after this, let's talk free of charge with KOA
on iHeartRadio and the iHeartRadio app.Now, I want to do this really
quickly before we jump into reminding ourselveswhy gas is going to be more expensive

(01:19:02):
and why that is Jared Pulis's fault, which I will never get tired of
doing. But you may have heardthe story today that former social worker and
former girlfriend of the former chief ofthe Aurora Police Department has now been sentenced
to four years in prison for callingin a fake child abuse claim that led

(01:19:23):
to an investigation of an Aurora Citycouncilwoman, Danielle Jerinsky. And I thought,
you know what, I wonder howDanielle feels about this. So I
reached out and Danielle, welcome backto the show. Thanks for having me.
Mandy, this has got to beI mean, do you feel in
any way like this is any kindof closure. I mean that you know

(01:19:44):
that she is going to pay.I think a good price for what she
did to you. I do.I do. I feel very good about
today's outcome. I mean, let'sbe honest, these charges were probation eligible
and she has so for her toget four years in prison, the maximum
was six. The judgment with fouryears in prison, I am very happy

(01:20:10):
with that, and I know I'malready getting messages and called. People are
unhappy, They're upset. I thinkshe should have gotten more. And what
I want to say to everybody isI'm okay with it. And I am
at peace with this because this givesme enough time to get through the upcoming
trial for the fake medical records,which I think maybe people are forgetting about

(01:20:30):
and she's facing a serious time onthose charges. So I am at peace
with the four year prison sentence todayand I look forward to moving forward.
Well, and what Danielle is talkingabout in September, Robin Nessetta will face
another trial because in order to thisis this is so insane, like this

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is like lifetime movie level insane totry and get out of appearing in court
for the charges against her about thefalse claim against Daniel Drinsky. She lied
to the court and she submitted fakedocuments that said she had a brain tumor,
I mean, and did it insuch an incompetent way that it's almost

(01:21:13):
stunning that anyone thought she was goingto get away with this. So she
now has to face charges for that. What what kind of time would she
be looking at for that? Becausethere's no doubt what she did there.
This is in my mind a slamdunk, right, And that's why I'm
really curious to see if she takesa plea, you know how this goes.
But the new eight charges, Ibelieve six of them are felonies.

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Three of those hold up to twelveyears, and so if the judge a
sentence is heavy on those if heruns them, you know, consecutive instead
of concurrent to the four years thatshe's been given today. I mean,
she could be spending a long timein prison. You know, I saw

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some comments from you earlier today thatyou said, look, you know,
she's shown no remorse. She madeus go through this trial. Do you
do you feel like that now shedid make a statement at her sentencing,
do you feel like that was justher covering her rear end? Or do
you really believe that she has noremorse for what she's done even though she's
been found guilty. Now, thiswoe has no remorse, and Mandy,

(01:22:25):
she has no soul, period,She has no remorse. Has she ever
apologized to you in any way,shape or form other than in court right
before sentencing? No? Never.And I don't know what was shown.
I haven't seen all of the newscoverage of the ship, but it was
pointed out many times how actually aggressiveshe had been with me in courts.

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When I was on the stand cryinggiving my testimony, she was winking at
me and blowing kisses at me.Oh my god, she's crazy, She's
crazy. The la time I showedup to court, I was standing a
foot away from the DA he andI were talking. There was plenty of
room behind him, plenty of roombehind me for her to go around.

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She walked in between the two ofus and stood nose to nose at me
and steared me down. So sothis one has no remorse, no remorse.
She has tried to intimidate me andharass me through this entire process and
then shows up today saying she's sorry. No, no, you're not.

(01:23:30):
Wow, that is just I'm tellingyou, Daniel, let's get together.
We're going to write a script.We're gonna sell it to lifetime because I
feel this there's like enough craziness inthis story. The good news is is
that you had already been exonerated.And the good news is I hope,
I hope that your child is notyou know, does not carry any sort

(01:23:51):
of emotional scars from this entire experience, which I know for you that's not
possible. But I do hope yourchild was young enough that you know you
all can move on and put thisbehind you, knowing that she is going
to pay a penalty for just beingcrazy. Yes, And I think today
is a big step towards that formy family and I because this not only

(01:24:14):
not only did I go through this, but my parents went through this.
Yeah, and you know I selfsurrendered my son to them. I mean,
it is a huge step for allof us to move forward and heal
now. I know that you've beenvery active in trying to draw light to
the fact that the child protective Servicessystem, at least we know for a

(01:24:38):
fact under Robin Mesita was abused bythe people that are supposed to be protecting
children. Have you been able todig up or uncover any more information or
have you been able to work withthem in order to ensure that this doesn't
happen to anyone else? No,not at all. In fact, their
stance is this is just a oneoff. You know, this has never

(01:24:58):
happened, It'll never happen. Andagain there's nothing to see here. Everything's
great in our system. The bottomline is this is a system that is
weaponized. It is a weaponized systemthat anybody, anybody with you being in
the public light, maybe you yourself, anybody you know, you say or
do something that somebody doesn't like,they can call in anonymously and report that

(01:25:23):
they saw you doing whatever to yourchildren, and it launches not just an
investigation and extremely invasive investigation that goeson for weeks and weeks and weeks looming
over you. This is a systemthat is designed to make people feel crazy.

(01:25:44):
Yeah, looming thoughts of potentially losingtheir children. Well, Daniel,
I'm glad it's this part's over now. Are you gonna have to testify in
the next trial or are you justpaying attention to it? You know,
I'm not sure yet. And forme that this one is between her and
the court, you know what Imean, Like because she she falsified documentation

(01:26:05):
to the court, so I thinkshe's going to have to answer for that,
but we of course will be watchingwhat happens with her in the future.
I'm just I'm happy that this isover for you, you know,
I'm happy. I hope at leastthat this woman will never have the opportunity
to do something like this again.And I'm hoping that she's going to have
plenty of time to reflect and maybeget some help for her obvious mental disorders.

(01:26:28):
Yeah, I agree, Daniel Drinsky. I appreciate you taking time for
me today. Absolutely, Thanks somuch. Thank you, Daniel. We'll
talk to you again soon. Youknow that that story, this story.
We have two just batpoop crazy crimestories that have been around recently. This
one because when they when they caughther calling in the false report and they

(01:26:51):
cracked it back to her, sheimmediately just started making crap up and now
she's gonna have to face trial forSo this is where he's been bizarre.
The other one is about the dentistwho killed his wife. Allegedly. He
hasn't been found guilty yet, butoh my god, he had the poison
delivered to his office. He googledhow to kill someone with poison on his

(01:27:14):
work computer. It's like, you, guys, like this is the best
we can do as far as criminalitygoes in the front range. Just terrible,
terrible, absolutely terrible. Now here'sback to my favorite topic of the
day. John Caldara has written abarnburner of a column that I linked to
today. I'll just read a littletiny part of it, just a little

(01:27:35):
snippet, because I need you toknow this, because I need you to
tell everyone about this. When gasprices go up, and if everybody's like,
dang gas prices, just shut up, you'll be able to turn around
like smooth and cool and maybe youknow give him, maybe like a single
gun. You'll be like, thankYou're at Polis, and you'll be able
to tell them why it's shared Polus'sfault. This is from the column.

(01:27:56):
The Hayman fire in two thousand andtwo was one of the worst in call
Colorado's history. What's more appalling isit was started by one person whose responsibility
it was to make sure forest firesdon't happen in the first place. That's
what's going on today with the oneperson who should have prevented our gasoline prices
from spiking fifty cents to a dollarper gallon, but instead made it happen.

(01:28:20):
In that remarkably dry year of twothousand and two, there was a
burn van in the area in northwestof Colorado Springs. A park ranger with
US Forest Service, Terry Barton,a forestry technician, set a piece of
paper on fire in an area sheknew was prone to ignite. Why some
say it was so she could putout the fire and look like a hero.

(01:28:42):
In court, she claimed she wasburning a letter from her estranged husband.
This one person, wanting to looklike a hero, lit one piece
of paper and torched more than onehundred and thirty eight thousand acres across four
counties, killing six people and landingher a six year sentence in the federal
pen From the Declaration of Independence toa letter burned in the forest, the

(01:29:05):
power of one page is tremendous.The EPA tells us Colorado has an ozone
problem and we are out of compliancewith their standards. Therefore, gasoline and
the Denver Metro will need to bereformulated to their liking, adding between fifty
cents to a gallon a dollar pergallon as penance. Since society is drunk

(01:29:27):
on the word injustice, it's importantto note Coloraden's bury very little responsibility for
this problem, yet are being punished. The bad air quality comes from California
and often from China and blows intoour high altitude, knocking us out of
EPA compliance. So where are thesocial justice warriors on this one? Back
to the power of one piece ofpaper. Due to this injustice, the

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governor signs a letter to the EPArequesting a waiver from this impossible standard.
They always rubber stamp it and ourgas prices don't skyrocket. Acting as a
responsible park ranger, former John Hickenlooperdid just that saving us from inflaming fuel
prices. Then came the terry bartonof governors. Governor Jared Polis, as

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the new governor, sent out anotherpiece of paper to the EPA with sinding
his predecessor's request for a waiver.Polis didn't regret his decision on x.
He crowed, we helped get theEPA to downgrade Colorado because of ozone levels.
He told Colorado Public Radio, theEPA downgrade is good news. Now

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I've met him. Stop there,because that's really the important part. Jared
Polis in twenty nineteen declared it goodnews that he welcomed as the EPA downgraded
us, and that set us ona path to be downgraded again where we
now have to use reformulated gas.So just make sure you know. And
there's more to that column. Bythe way, you can go finish it.

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I linked to it on the blog. It's on page two at Complete
Colorado dot com. But I'd ratheryou go to my website, mandy'sblog dot
com and go to it that way. It is Jared Poulis's fault. Just
repeat after me. It's fun tosay, by the way, super fun
to say. Now I also havethis on the blog because I thought it
was kind of funny. I'm notthe only one who is pretty sure that

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Jared Polis hates women. Now whenI do it, i'm being cheeky because
he won't come on the show.I mean, he may just hate me.
I mean, there's a variety ofreasons one could hate me. I'm
okay with it, frankly unbothered.But all that being said, he is
now catching fire from the left.Larina Garcia, a woman from the House
of Representatives, has put out atweet that says of the twenty two sponsors

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of the six bills Governor Jared Poulisvetoed, eighteen are women. So perhaps
women are writing some really bad bills. Do you ever consider that? But
I said this earlier when I wastalking with Ross, if you missed the
beginning of the show. I don'tnormally say this, but if you miss
the beginning of the show, it'sworth going to the podcast and just listening

(01:32:04):
to the beginning of the podcast.Because I was actually late for my own
show today because of traffic and therewas an accident on I twenty five Love
and so I started on my phonewith Ross. But Ross asked me if
I thought because there was more womenin the Colorado legislature that that's why we
have bad legislation, And I said, yeah, I think so any legislation

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based on emotion or feelings or anyof that stuff, and I think women
are far more likely. I mean, everybody should think that women are far
more likely to do something based onan emotional position. I mean, come
on, that's pretty obvious. Now. It doesn't mean that women can't be

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rational and logical obviously, or everybill that they put forth would be vetoed.
So but I think it's I thinkit's more likely the more women you
have, the more bad pieces oflegislation based on emotion you're gonna have to
deal with. So yeah, youknow, just keep that in mind.
That's on the blog as well today, and then I have not only want
to talk about that. I don'teven want to talk about that right now.

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This is really cool and a listenersend it to me, so I
want to get this in today.Have you ever wanted to ride the rails?
Couver of you ever like had ayou know, I just ever wanted
to jump a train and just ridethe rails and you know see where you
ended up I have liked to ridethe train in the past, so yeah,
I like to ride the rails.I mean, now out of Erie,

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you can go to Erie and youcan actually ride the rails on a
bike. So they have these carsthat sit on this Boulder Valley mine route
and you have these pedal cars andyou can peddle yourself and you go on
the railroad track. I think thissounds super cool. Wow, but you'd
have to do it with the rightpeople. You have to do it with

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people who will number one, notwhine because you're trapped, like you're the
four of you are trapped there thatyou can't and number two, people won't
quit. Have you ever been ona paddle boat with somebody and then they're
like, I'm tired, so you'reyou're still paddling. You're like, you're
peddling as fast as you can andyou're just going around in a circle because
they've stopped peddling in the paddle boat. I actually can't swim. So the

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answer to that is no, Really, where'd you grow up a small little
town in Kansas? That makes sense? Yeah, that makes it. I
mean swimming was probably not a partof many Kansas lives. We did have
a pool in the town. Inthe town, yeah, okay, yeah,
I tried out to be judging aboutpeople who can't swim, but I
was able to go to the Iwas fairly tall, so I was able
to go to the pool and juststand in the water, which is actually

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not help because you still can't swim. I grew up in Florida, and
if somebody grows up in Florida andthey say they can't swim, you judge
them because their parents have put themin a dangerous situation because there's water everywhere
and half the people have pools.I mean, you know, you got
to learn how to swim. Ifyou're gonna be in Florida but been in
Kansas, give you a pass.Where'd you grow up, ben Irmingham,

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Alabama? You know how to swim. I know how to swim. I
love to swim. Yes, Ilove to just be in the water because
I love to like be in thewater and hang out. But I don't
like, like my mom, maybedo the swim team for one one season.
Well, she maybe do the swimteam for like the first two weeks
of one season. And I camehome after two weeks and I was like,
I am not doing that. Shehere's what you like to swim.

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I'm like, not, over andover and over and over again. All
swim team is is laps. Well, yeah, I never had to do
swim team. I took some lessons, glad I know the form, but
I was limited to one sport ata time, so we never were worried
about working in This is a swimteam as well. Yeah, they're seeing
that's not not great to do onesport at a time. They recommend kids

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do a bunch of different sports tokeep all their various skills up. I
wish you guys could see me withmy various skills handdressed, which I'm sure
are really Koob and Ben got tosee it, and I thought, I
bet you immediately thought, well,she's obviously talking about skills right there.
Looks like you're talking about goalie skills. Yes, yes, that's it all
right, Ben Lassener's in here.It's time because