05-31-24 FULL SHOW - Trump Found Guilty on All Charges

Episode Transcript

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Welcome, welcome, welcome. Guesswhat today's topic is going to be.
We're going to take some phone calls, We're going to take text messages,
and let's just say the audience isdivided on the Donald Trump verdict. And
then, because it's Friday, andafter all that Trump talk, we need
to drink the wine. Yogi popsin to talk about summer beverages. Don't
miss any of it. Friday editionof the show. All together now and

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and there you have it, myfriends. I am your host for the
next three hours. Mandy Connell,joined, of course by my right hand
man, and he's a rod.I also call him Anthony, because you
know I'm dignified like that. Andwe will take you right through the three
pm hour today and yesterday. Rightat the end of the show, we

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get the verdict for President Donald Trump. He has found by a jury of
people in New York who have decidedthat he broke the law when he classified
a reimbursement for payments made to aporn star that he had sex with and
he didn't want her to talk aboutit as legal expenses. Now, I

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haven't been talking about this because,as I said, I'll let the trial
happen. We'll have the verdict andthen we can have a discussion about it,
because then we know what is goingto happen. I have been following
the trial and I pretty much assumedthis would be the case. And here's
why. This jury was plucked froman electorate that voted overwhelmingly for Joe Biden.

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This is a hardcore Democratic electorate inthat district. It was brought by
a district attorney who ran on aplatform of getting Donald Trump, and it
was shopped in a courtroom where thejudge has a who is a very high
placed Democratic operative. I'm sure shetook him out to dinner last night.

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Throughout the trial, things have happenedin the trial that had been borderline absurd
when you think about it, fromthe way that the judge successfully shut down
witnesses for the defense while allowing theprosecution wide latitude to bring in pretty much
whatever they wanted to bring in,as evidenced by the details of the sexual
encounter that Stormy Daniels laid out,even though those details had nothing to do

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with the actual accusation that she receivedmoney from Donald Trump, it would have
been quite enough to say. Soyou say that you had sex with Donald
Trump? Is that correct? Yesor no? But they went well beyond
that, well beyond that, becausethe purpose of this trial was never to
write an injustice and I shouldn't haveto put this caveat out. And if

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you listened to the show on aregular basis, you know I am not
a fan of Donald J. Trump. I just I find him objectionable as
a human being. I don't carefor him. That being said, I
went yesterday from being a Trump voterto being a hecky I'm gonna vote for
Trump. I'm going to vote forTrump for a myriad of reasons, not

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the least of which is we areliving through a time in the United States
of America where a major political partycan decide that they are going to throw
every book they can find at apolitical opponent in order to keep him out
of office. And I'm not theonly one. Polling data shows a majority
of Americans feel like Trump is facingthese charges because the Democrats are scared that

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he is going to win reelection intwenty twenty four. That is why he's
facing these charges. A majority ofAmericans, so it's not just some you
know, ragtag group of conspiracy theoristshere in the first time in American history
that I'm aware of. Maybe ithappened back back in the day, you
know, back way back in theday where where criminal charges were used to

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taint a political oppon it, butcertainly the first time in the modern era.
If you go back to the lasttime that a president could have faced
charges, that would be Richard Nixon, and instead of letting that happen,
Gerald Ford pardoned him immediately because heknew the damage that that would have done
to the American people, to theAmerican psyche, to the American image around

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the world. Well, our currentpresident has no such concerns. So all
of these things that have been thrownat Donald Trump, and there have been
a lot, a lot, theyfinally got him. They finally got him.

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Well what did they actually get?I actually truly believe, in my
heart of hearts that this is goingto be looked back on at some point
in the future as the greatest politicalblunder of all time. Because yesterday after
the verdict was read, both theGOP site and the Trump site crashed because
more people were trying to donate tothe Trump campaign. I've got and I

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don't know if Ross talked about thestory of Sean Maguire, a venture capitalist
who this guy is like, he'slike ridiculous smart. He's got a PhD
in quantum physics. He has builtfour companies, two of which he sold
for hundreds of millions of dollars.Now he owns another company, but he's

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also a venture capitalist. He isembedded in Silicon Valley, and yesterday he
announced that he was donating three hundredthousand dollars to the Trump campaign and laid
out in very clear fashion. Soit's so clear, I'm going to share
it with you, even though it'slong as hell. Why he went from
being a Hillary Clinton voter, aBiden voter to now being a Trump voter
and a Trump supporter. And he'surging everyone in Silicon Valley to follow his

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lead because people are now realizing thatthis truly is an abuse of the justice
system to serve political ends. AndI saw very I mean, kind of
sad but funny at the same timetweet from an African American guy follow on

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Twitter this morning and he said,finally white people are waking up to the
injustice of the justice system. AndI don't know if it's ever been used
politically against black people. We doknow that they have. You know,
we have historic instances of black peoplebeing treated differently by the justice system.

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But for me, I don't knowof another situation where politics was the sole
driver for a conviction. And that'swhat this is. First of all,
you know, Donald Trump was convictedof a crime that I don't believe has
ever been charged in this specific way. The reason that statute exists, the

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you know, don't lie on businessdocuments exist. It exists because it's usually
connected to the cover up or theit's connected to another crime. You lied
on your business records so you couldcheat on your taxes, You lied on
your business records so you could defraudsomeone else. You lied on your business
records to commit this other crime,and there was no underlying crime. Because

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as ikey as it is to payoff a porn star because you don't want
her to talk about your sex life, it's not illegal. And the notion
that somehow Donald Trump is alone inthese sorts of activities, you have to
be completely ignorant of the fact thatwe already know Hillary Clinton did the exact

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same thing with her election documents.She categorized the payment for the Steele dossier
as a legal expense, except itwasn't. It was a campaign expense,
it was opposition research expense. Shepaid a fine and went on her Mary
way. And this is part ofthe real irritation of this. And I'm

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not going to do a bunch ofwhat aboutism, although, holy cow,
if there was ever a time forwhat about asm, it's this, but
the two tiered nature of our currentjustice system where you can do anything if
you are a Democrat, unless you'reBob Menendez and they actually find gold bars
in your house. You can prettymuch do anything as a Democrat and get
away with it. But if youare on the wrong side of a political

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issue, you better look over yourshoulder. You better get ready because it's
coming and they're coming for you.I will tell you that I think that
out of all the charges Trump wasfacing, this case was the flimsiest.
And I love these people on Twitter. They're like, he was convicted by

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a jerry of his peers, andit's totally fair, and it's not.
A jury also acquitted oj Simpson.So the jury doesn't always get it right,
which is why prosecutors look for theright jury for the right venue to
file an appeal. They look forwhat they consider to be friendly courts.

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This is not at all revolutionary whatI'm saying. We all know. We
all know that they shop and finda friendly venue so they can make their
case. Right. So this wasthe friendliest venue that you could possibly imagine
for a prosecution of Donald Trump.So you are somebody just said it's illegal

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to use businesses money for the purposeshe did. No, it's really not.
It's really not. And he wasn'tcharged with breaking a law about using
money that he should. If heowns the business, you can use whatever
you want if you want to.If you own a business and you want
to go out and buy a condofor your family to stay in, and
you use your business's funds to payfor it, and you own that business,

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you've done nothing wrong. There's nothingillegal about that. There's no laws
about how you can spend your moneyfor business. I mean, I guess
there is. You can't b andstuff like that, but not like this.
Of course he can. He ownsthe business. If it's not publicly
traded, you can spend the moneyon whatever you want. It's your business,

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it's your money. Your business canbuy whatever you want to do with
it, and he could make theargument that, yes, this was a
business expense because it would have damagedhis reputation in business. So yeah,
it could be a business expense.Somebody just you know what. In just
a few minutes after the bottom ofthe hour, I'm going to open up
the phone lines because i'd like totalk to people about this today. I'd

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like to hear your thoughts on it, as long as you can keep them
clean, because what I'm seeing todayis this. I'm seeing a lot of
people and Twitter is not real life, so I recognize that, but it's
the easiest shorthand way to kind oftake the pulse, especially a big story.
And I'm not saying that I thinkthat Twitter is you know, the
north Star here. I'm just sayingon Twitter today, I'm seeing so many

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people that say, you know what, I wasn't even gonna vote, but
now I'm voting for Trump because thisis crazy. Oh my god, I
totally forgot about the blog. Let'sdo that. Let's do the blog.
I got a lot of stuff obviouslyabout Trump here, So go ahead and
uh find the blog at mandy'sblog dotcom. That's mandy'sblog dot com no apostrophe.

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Look for the headline that says fivethirty one twenty four blog Trump found
guilty on all charges. Click onthat and here are the headlines you will
find within. I didn't go withoffice half of American all with ships and
quipment. That that's going to pressplant today on the blog thirty four felon
accounts thirty four guilty verdicts. Trumpeconomic advisor Steve Moore pops in at twelve

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fifteen. Oh, I totally forgotto tell you to call him. Ummm,
let's talk to him in just asecond. Donors are already lining up
to give Trump money. Civil waris already trending on Twitter scrolling so who
gets indicted next? Biden should pardonTrump. Dave Williams finds a way to
grift on the verdict. Watch Trump'sstatement after the verdict. We all need

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a drink today. Denver counselman Flynnis asking the right questions. Two of
the best bars in America are inDenver. Things to do this weekend?
UH Democrats want you to vote forRon Hanks. Another reminder that our new
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the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblogdot com. I just sent you Steve's
number, Colin. Oh, great, fantastic. Let me talk to Steve
Moore right now. Steve Moore is, of course one of Trump's economic advisors.
I was just laying out how Ifelt about this, Steve, and
I want to hear what you think. Yeah, go ahead. Well,

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I was like, you look,here's my attitude about this. You know,
we're going to have a jury verdicton November fifth, right, the
American people are going to vote onwho they want to be the next president,
and so you know the voters arethe ulti majority here, and so
I think this was this case.I have never been brought to any pure

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minded person, you know, whetheryou like Trump or not Trump, and
I know you've got people of alldifferent political perspectives in your audience. You
know, this was kind of afarce and it's shameful that we now have
a justice system. It's hard totrust that, you know. In other
words, let me put it likethis, Mandy, do you think that
if this case were heard in Nebraska, Iowa, or Montana or Utah or

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Florida, do you think there's anyway in hell that he would have been
convicted. That's funny that you justsaid that. I said that to someone
last night. I was like,this was a venue chosen to be so
pro prosecution that it's not even funny. And it was successful. And that's
yeah, because you know, justiceshould be blind, it shouldn't matter,
you know, what your political perspectiveis. But once the you know,

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venue was chosen that this was kindof preered in so I feel fad about
it. I think it's a bigblack guy for the city of New York
who wants to do business in thatplace anymore? And so but I'll tell
you as a Trump guy. Andby the way, they you know this,
the Democrats are happy because now theyyou know, every time they talk
about Trump built. But I'll tellyou, you know, they've riors in

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the last sixteen hours. It's amazing. I Mean, people are so angry
out there at what they do asa miscarriage from justice, and so that's
that's the way I see it.I think this is a really interesting and
dangerous precedent to set. Steve andyou know, Trump in twenty sixteen chanted

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lock her up at a lot ofhis rallies talk about Hillary Clinton, but
then as soon as he was elected, he just said, you know what,
beautiful Hillary, We're not going toShe's fine, We're not going to
do You think that changes now,because there's a big part of me that
feels like the only way to stopthis in its tracks is to go tit
for tat right away and say,if you're going to play this game,

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we're going to play this game,because otherwise this is the new this is
the new blueprint. No. Ilook, I don't believe in tit for
tat in this kind of situation.I Mean, the fact is that what
we should be talking about today isyou know the issues. I mean,
this country is in real trouble,right yeah, and you and I've talked
about this the last you know,a couple of years. I mean,

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we're going in the wrong direction.We've got, you know, a border
that's out of control, We've gotin place that's out of control. Gas
prices are out of control. We'vegot you know, so many problems in
this country, crime, out ofcontrol, et cetera. Why can't we
deal with a big boy discussion ofhow we're going to fix this country rather
than you know, I mean,look, he had a relationship with a
hooker, yeah, years ago,and that's what we're talking about. I

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mean, it's sort of silly,actually, and we should really have a
very sophisticated discussion about, Okay,what are we going about our out of
control debt, how are we goingto you know, get the economy moving
again, how are we going toget control of border? And I want
to hear the candidates, so Iwant to hear what they have to say.
But this is this is like anational inquiry debate. It is.

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But unfortunately, this is where weare, Steve, I mean, this
is I think the bigger implications hereare so bad, not just for this
presidential election, but for our standingin the world. We've now become essentially
like a Central American tinpot dictatorship,where you know, there's no reliability here
I said that the other last nighton Potts exactly that that you know,

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this is like the Banana Republic,you know, where you get a ruler
comes in and he like tries toget rid of all, you know,
put in prison all his political enemies. And now that's almost literally what they're
doing. And so I read somethingin the in the Wall Street Journal this
morning. It's just a little levity, but I mean it's it's true that
they were saying if Trump they saying, well, it's very unlikely that Trump

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will be president. But if youwere a present, if he does go
to the prison, that the SecretService goes to prison with him, that
is insane. I mean, thatis insane. So that's how crazy this
is. Uh. And you know, look, you're so right to compare

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this, you don't. I workedfor Trump. I was one of his
senior economists many times. And someof the people I work with, like
Peter Navarro, and I'm you know, Peter and I used to not always
agree on things. But you know, Peter is in jail right now.
You're in jail for being a Trumpto come and come on. So I

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have these I swear to god,I have these nightmares sometimes I'll wake up
in the middle of night. It'scalled sweat, and I'm thinking, oh
my god, you know, there'sgonna be a you know, knocking on
the door and I open the doorand there's gonna be three you know,
FBI agents there with machine guns andtaking me away and my crimes. I
work for Trump And so we reallyhave weaponized the Justice Department in a way

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that's really really scary for the country. And justice should be blind. And
in this case, it wasn't SteveMoore a pleasure to talk to you,
my friend. I got to takea break, but we'll talk again,
obviously as you continue to work withthe Trump campaign throughout the rest of this
and you know, go ahead andSteve about that matters, you know what
I mean? Yeah, like,what are we going to do at our

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data and are out of control borderand our inflation, because those are the
things that really matter, I know. That's what what everybody's talked about today
is this country is in trouble.That's what I'm here to tell you.
It's in big trouble. Yeah,all right, I'll talk to you to
my friend bye, Andy, seeit. We'll be right back. Some
of the text messages that I've gotare super interesting and I want to share

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some of them. They're all definitelynot pro Trump, that's for sure.
This one, let's see here.I want to make sure this one says.
I don't think anybody's going to lookback in the future and say there
was a miscarriage of justice. Ithink what they're going to look back and
say is, after sixty years ofbeing an absolute criminal, karma really finally

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caught up with him. But let'sface that he learned from the best his
father and Roy Khane. He's adespicable human being who shouldn't represent the United
States of America any longer. Nomatter what you think about his policies.
As a person, Oh crap,the text line, just update it.
As a person, he betrayed hiscountry, his family, his business partners,
his wives, and god knows whoelse. Now, as far as

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betraying his country, I don't seethat one. Business partners, yes,
wives, Yes, you have apoint there. But I want to ask
this person question. And I'm beinggenuine about this. A lot of people
are saying, Manda can't believe youdon't trust just a system. It was
a jeury of his peers. There'sno way that could be wrong. So
for all of you people that aresaying the justice system is infallible and therefore

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we must believe what the justice systemsays if and when, and I do
believe it will be thrown out onappeal, do you walk that back or
do you then say that the justicesystem is rigged. I'm just I'm trying
to find out where the line is, you know, I'm trying to find
out where your line is, becausethis is what we've got now. Right

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now, we have people who lookat this and say, this is a
prosecution that the Feds passed on.This is a prosecution that everybody passed on.
That Alvin Bragg, by God,by golly, he was going to
find a place to do it ina jury that he was relatively certain was
going to be amenable, and hewas going to run these up the flagpole
and see what happened. And hewas successful. But you can't look at

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that in a vacuum. I havea really, really, really interesting column
on the blog today and it's bya guy named Josh Hammer. Josh Hammer
is a lawyer. He's clerked atthe Fifth Circuit. He's published pieces on
a legal scholarship on constitutional issues,and he wrote a really good calumn and

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I just want to share part ofit. First, the Democrats long march
to get the nefarious Orange Man byany means necessary, beginning with the twenty
sixteen election cycle, has finally worked. There was a Russia collusion hoax,
birth by the failed Hillary Clinton campaignand laundered through Fusion GPS and the Tony

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law firm Perkins Cooy LLP. Therewas the illegitimate spying on Trump campaign hands
like Carter Page. There were theDemocrats street hooligans from the Women's March of
twenty seventeen through the Antifa Black LivesMatter riots of twenty twenty. There was
the constant deep state undermining of thepresidential agenda. There were the two bogus
impeachments for an entirely inconsequential phone callwith the Ukrainian president and for the January

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sixth, twenty twenty one US CapitalJamboree that transpired mere days before Trump was
set to leave town anyway. Morerecently, there was the August twenty twenty
two pre dawn FBI raid at marA Lago, and all the multi state
law fair that has followed, andnow here we are. Second, American
patriots of all political stripes must cometo terms with the current fallen state of

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the nation. The prosecution and incarcerationof political opponents on trumped up, no
pun intended charges is third world tinpot, dictatorship, banana republic type stuff,
pure and simple. Americans sometimes readabout foreign nations whose partisans succumb to their
basest instincts in terms of attempting tojail political opponents. Indeed, it almost

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has the width of a medieval settinga king deposes his arch rival and then
condemns the vanquished foe to rot inthe Tower of London. The idea that
jailing one's top political ribe, andin an election year no less, could
ever happen in the Land with theFree and the Home of the Brave,
would have struck many of us inthe not so distant past as ludicrous,

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too ludicrous an idea to even contemplate. But as Senator Josh Holly, no
legal slouch himself, tweeted after theverdict, if you thought it couldn't happen
in America, you were wrong.Third, it has never been more incumbent
upon the right to finally wake upand realize what is going on now in

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this once great nation. Many conservativesand Republicans like to wax nostalgic about blindfolded
lady justice, about neutral enforcement ofthe law, about general norms of liberal
neutrality. Will those on the right, Will those on the right finally wake
up and realize exactly where our attemptto seize an unsustainable, faux moral high

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ground as gotten us. The imperativeof this late hour of the American Republic,
in order to even attempt to rebalanceour wildly off balance pendulum, is
to respond to the left as ithas acted towards us, by wielding political
and prosecutorial power to reward friends andpunish enemies, to reward our side's forces

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of civilizational sanity and punish their side'sforces of civilizational arson within the broad confines
of the rule of law. Ifwe want to get back to neutrality at
this perilous point, it's going tofirst take bloodying up some noses. That
is unfortunate for those Americans who actuallydo value and cherish neutral enforcement of the

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rule of law. But yet againhere we are, and I want to
ask this question because I got totell you I agree with this guy.
I thought about that last night.We've talked about it about other things on
the show until the Republican Party standsup and says, Okay, if this
is what the rules are now,we're coming after you. We're coming after
Joe Biden for accepting money from China. We're coming after Hunter Biden for representing

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China and Ukraine and other oligarchs withoutregistering as a foreign agent. We're coming
after every family member who does anythingwrong using the name of some elected official
to get ahead. We're coming aftereverybody. We're coming after Nancy Pelosi,
who's been using her position to insideher trade for the past thirty years.
We're coming after everybody. It wouldn'ttake long before the impression would be made

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and we could get back to somesemblance of reality. But in the meantime,
imagine, imagine the ability to takeout some trash. Imagine the ability
to thin the herd of corrupt politicianswho have used the system for years to
enrich themselves while screwing everybody else overAt the same time, I'm ready,

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I'm ready to upend the entire systemat this point, I'm ready to get
all of those people out. I'mready to charge everybody. But I think
that's the only way that we getthis situation to stop. This person said,
suck it up, snowflake, youguy, I screwed around, tried
to hide it using illegal means,and got found out. I cannot imagine

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the pearl clutching if a Democrat wason the stand. If you, guys,
if a Democrat was on the stand, you have to say the same
thing. I mean, I wouldhave to say the same thing. Let
me put it this way. Ihaven't talked at all about the fact that
Senator Bob Menendez is on trial rightnow. You know why, because I
don't care. He's not my senator. Doesn't matter to me in the grand

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scheme of things. I don't care. I do believe he's going to be
convicted. But if there was noreal evidence and he was being charged with
this kind of fantasy crime, thenthere would be a different story. I
would be forced to defend Bob Menendezas I am now being forced to defend
Donald Trump. And that's the thing. All of these people who are like
this guy's horrible. He deserves whathe gets. They're so looking at the

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trees, they're missing the forest andat some point in the near future,
when it happens to someone that theydo support, or that happens to someone
they do like, they're going tostand around wondering how we got here,
and I'm going to be able tosay, well, if you've been a
little more upset about when it happenedthe first time, we maybe wouldn't have
been here now. So all ofthe gloating, all of the happiness.

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The only way to stop this kindof lawfare from happening again is to absolutely
shut it down by doing it tothe other side. And quite frankly,
I don't think I'm interested in anycandidates right now who are not interested in
a little bit of that. I'mready for a little tit for tach And
I know Steve Moore just said Idon't do tit for tech. I do

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because sometimes it's the only way tostop a bully right turn around and punch
them in the face. And that'swhat we're dealing with here. I'll be
right back. Who back to thejurors, Mandy, Are you blaming them
too? It's truly disgusting what youand people like you want. You are
backing a criminal, self confessed wannabe dictator. History will remember you and

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people like you useful idiots. Okay, the wanna be dictator, the confessed
wanna be dictator, immediately disqualifies youas being an informed person because the comments
that he made about being a dictatoron day one, we immediately followed by
him saying and then after that,I'm going to do that. He doesn't
want to be a dictator, andhe didn't say that, so that's just
stupid. But let's talk about thejury for a second. How long before

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they show up on MSNBC. Howmany of them are going to write a
book? How many of them?Bringing a wealthy Trump pulled eight percent in
that district. Eight percent. Soto those who say, do you really
think they have an all democratic jury, yes, that's entirely possible, even
with the defense having challenges. Theyhave a limited number of challenges, right,

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They don't have an unlimited They can'texclude everybody, so they have to
choose the best Democrats they can choose. Now, I don't know if the
jury was all democrats. I'm surewe're going to find out more than we
want to know about this jury verysoon. But the notion that you're thinking,
well, this was probably a balancedjury, or even there was probably
a for Republican. No. That'swhy this was heard in this district.

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That's exactly why I mean, comeon, come on anyway, for those
of you saying I'm glad to seeyour eyes finally opening, welcome back on
the Trump train. Man each chewchew. I am on the Trump train
in protest of what is going onhere. I'm not gonna be don't look
for me to be up there withthe engineers hat on. And it's less

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about Donald Trump than what the Democratshave done to bastardize the system. And
that, my friends, is whyI think this is actually going to help
Donald Trump win. I think thatthis is going to backfire spectacularly because already
Donald Trump is calling himself a politicalprisoner. And today I thought his comments

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that were playing during Ross's show,and Ross stumped out of it because it
was him kind of Trump going overa litany of grievances. But you notice
he says, I'm still in agag order. He's not now. His
lawyers may have told him to shutup about the judge and his daughter until
after the sentencing, but he said, I sure hope you look up about
this corrupt judge and his corrupt daughter. Well, what's gonna what's that gonna

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do? That's gonna a bunch ofpeople are gonna be like tech tech tick
tic tek on their keyboards. Tellme about this judge and his daughter.
What's up with the judge's daughter.As more and more things start to come
out, people don't like to bepushed around, and they don't like to
feel like someone is cheating, whichis kind of hilarious because this whole thing
started because of cheating. But nonetheless, attacking jurors is the lowest form of

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politics and journalism. No, areyou kidding me? That's just a dumb
thing to say. There's way lowerthings than that. Digging through somebody's divorce
files. That's lower than that findin about somebody's DUI arrest and ex you
know, putting that at that,and come on, give me a break.
Questioning the jury, questioning their politicalbackground, questioning their potential biases,

(31:02):
I think is fair in this situation, could be fair in every situation.
Is it fair to question a jurythat puts a black man in prison for
decades for a crime he didn't commit. Is it fair to question there their
viewpoints. Why they might have beenso quick to assume a black man was
put in prison, you know,was guilty of something without good evidence.
That's happened many, many times,do we Is it not fair to question

(31:26):
their motives? I'm just curious everythingin our system, because our system should
be a relatively free system is fallible. It's not always fallible, and you
don't want it to be fallible.When you're on trial. You want to
make sure that you're getting the bestshot. But why do you think that
they have things like jury consultants.Why do you think they spend so much

(31:48):
money on jury research. Why doyou think they do that because they know
the system is fallible and they're justtrying to mitigate the risk. When we
get back of opening up the phonelines, i'd like to hear from you
guys and gals with this specific question. Does this make you more likely,
less likely, or the same tovote for Trump? We'll do that next.

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I'd love to hear from you guysvia the phone. Remember the olden
days when we used to talk tolisteners. Yeah, let's do that fine.
Three O three seven one three eightyfive eighty five. The question is
simple, does this make you moreor less likely to vote for Trump.
And I think that there were alot of people who had moved away from

(32:30):
Trump for a variety of reasons.They weren't happy uh with his uh his
commentary ongoing, or they weren't happywith January sixth, And I'm wondering how
many of you have come back inthe fold now I've already said, much
to my chagrin, if he's thenominee, I'm voting for Trump because I
just think the Biden administration is terrible, just god awful. And I want

(32:54):
to share this text message with youhere here. From facts and furious illegal
operation to AG's Eric Holder's contempt charge, from Hillary Clinton's private server scandal,
to the Clinton Foundation's corruption, fromthe Clinton campaign Steele dossier, to the
illegal wiretaps of Trump Tower, tothe FBI love birds that evaded prosecution,

(33:16):
and countless other illegal corruption scandals,it's way past time to fight fire with
fire. And as a conservative whoopposes Trump, I'm still ticked off that
he failed to keep his campaign promiseof lock her up when he failed to
appoint an AG that would pursue chargesagainst her. But it's way pastime for
Democrats that commit illegal acts to geta taste of their own medicine. Then

(33:39):
he finishes with I still won't votefor Trump, but I hope he wins
his appeal in the New York case. So this is I'm curious, Texter,
who are you going to vote for? And I'm not judging. I'm
just curious where people like this.And there's multiple of those people on the

(34:00):
tech line right now. Ah,you know this is wrong, but I'm
still not voting for Trump. Well, who are you going to vote for?
You cannot possibly vote for Joe Biden. So I'm wondering if you're gonna
go RFK Junior, who's going toget your vote? I'm just curious in
this Mark in Golden Mark, thankyou for calling. What's on your mind?
Un Hi? Mandy? You know, Mandy, I haven't voted for

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anybody that little blank that's below allthe names. I always put my own
name in there, like William Wallace. I put in like one year I
voted, I put in a tencommandment, you know. So I mean,
Mandy, what I'm frustrated is thatlook at who I get the vote
from you. That's what really frustratesme. And I'm tired of the same
old deal. They go there,they do nothing, and they all conform

(34:45):
to each other and nothing is absolutelydone. So I don't get to vote
for anybody again. And then asfar as Trump, when I heard that
last night, I'm like, youknow, if I was a real criminal
and I did all these things,you know you always hear it on the
news. Well, we're gonna dropthis, Chards, He's going to complete
guilty to that charge. These chargesare going to get dropped. But what
make me angry is that every singlecharge they're charging him with, and you

(35:08):
know he's done something wrong, hebroke the law. I want him charged,
but they did charging him for everysingle one. That blows my mind.
That's a red flag for me becauseI love my country so much.
So, Mark, what are yougonna who are you gonna write in this
time? I don't know. Igot maybe the guy that the gladiator guy,

(35:28):
the Spaniard whatever his name is,Don Quixoti, maybe him, I
don't know. You guys's funny,feel free to write me in. That
would be exciting if I got votesin the presidential election. Now, Mark,
I appreciate your frustration, and Ithink that there's a lot of people
out there because I see it allthe time. They're like, this is
the best we've got. These twocandidates are the best in America. That's

(35:52):
what we're supposed to believe. Soyou're definitely not alone in those feelings.
And I appreciate your call Mark verymuch. It's but here we are,
Ben in the springs, which gotfor me, Ben real quick. It's
an honor to talk to you,Mandy. I listen to you every morning,
and you're awesome. Well, thankyou, you kick ass, thank

(36:12):
you. I am a Trump supporter. I'm not a big political guy,
but I just can't believe what isgoing on to him. I'm not saying
he's innocent or the greatest guy inthe world, but to peg him with
that many felonies all at once seemsa very assinin anything to do. And
I'll get off the phone. I'lllet you comment. I appreciate that very
much. But it's this is whatmakes it. This is what makes it

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so ridiculous, is because it's patentlyobvious that they don't charge other people in
the same way they don't charge especiallydemocrats. Hillary Clinton kept state business,
including top secret documentation in a serverin her kitchen closet, and when asked
to turn that server over, theyscrubbed it. They scrubbed the drives with

(37:01):
a DoD level scrubber to make surethat nothing was left on those hard drives
before they turned him over to theFBI. And then the FBI under James
Coomy comes out and says, youknow, I mean, no reasonable prosecutor
would prosecute this blatant violation of thelaw. And then when Joe Biden gets

(37:22):
caught doing the exact same thing withclassified documents that Donald Trump did, which
is take them out of office andhide them in a well, it wasn't
the exact same thing. He hitis in a garage and various other places.
We were told by the prosecutor thathe did break the law, but
he's just an old, confused grandfather, so we're not going to file charges.
And the American people we all rememberthis, you guys. The internet

(37:43):
is forever, So that last callerkind of speaks for a lot of people
when they say, look, youknow this is it's just ridiculous. What
is happening right now. I'm tellingyou I think this is going to help
him win. Jane, you areon Kowa. Welcome to the show.
Yes, I am going to votefor Donald Trump. And what I'd like

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to ask your viewers when the judgegave the jurors instructions, they gave them
three choices of charges, and theyand the judge told them they could pick
one of the three and they didn'tall have to agree on the same charge.

(38:24):
Yeah, that's what the judge's instructionswere. So I'd like to ask
the viewers if they were caught speedingand they went to court, how would
they like the judge to tell thejurors, Okay, we've got three charges
here. You can pick from speeding, you can pick from any of the

(38:45):
three above. I mean, isthat fair? I know the judges instructions
we were. I mean, I'mnot a lawyer and I don't spend any
time in the courtroom, but evenI was like, wait a minute,
that sounds like essentially he's like,hey, guys, we don't need you
to agree on anything. If youagree enough, we'll just say you agreed
on everything. It was weird.I mean I kind of feel like this

(39:07):
judge maybe he's incompetent, that maybehe's setting it up. So there's a
viable appeal on enough stuff that hedid. I don't know. The whole
thing was just really weird. Andto let the jury or jurors pick one
of the three and they didn't haveto agree. I mean, I would

(39:28):
hate to go to court and havethe judge tell people we'll pick any of
the three above, just pick oneand y'all don't have to agree. I
appreciate it. Jane, thank youso much for the call. Let me
get Mary and Genesee. Oh mygosh, this is the first time I
think in my career I have fourwomen on the phone lines right now.
Hey, Mary, what's on yourmind? Well, I have a friend

(39:51):
who called me yesterday and said Trumphas now won. You know, he's
being made a marger by these that'snot you the curse word democrat. Yes,
and the whole thing is such afarce. And he and he's really
good and he did get like somethinga thirty eight million dollar donation within an

(40:12):
hour the site went down. Yeah, and my friend and I'm starting to
really agree, says you know thatthis this now guarantee Trump getting elected.
We can only pray. Well,you know what, Mary, I was
talking to a friend of mine andshe's actually on the left, and she

(40:34):
said, this conviction is going tobe on the right. What the Dobbs
decision overturning abortion rights did for theleft. It's going to energize people,
it's going to get them fired up, it's going to have them come out.
And she is not She doesn't likeJoe Biden, she doesn't like Donald
Trump because she has took way tothe left of me. But she said,
I am almost certain that Donald Trumpis going to win again. And

(40:57):
that was coming from a staunch Democrat. Wow. Yeah, No. And
then somebody I heard on the radiothis morning when I was driving one of
the talk show hopes, and hegave a bunch of money. Unfortunately,
we don't have that kind of money. That he gave everything he positively could
he donated to Trump this morning.Well, I just pulled up the numbers.

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In the hours after the conviction wasannounced, the Trump campaign raised thirty
five million dollars. Wow, thatwas a lot of money in a few
hours. So, Mary, Iappreciate the phone call very very much.
The number three oh three seven one, three eighty five eighty five. Sheila,
you are on KOA. What's onyour mind? Hey, Mandy,

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it's so. I just am soappalled with the decision that it's just unbelievable.
And I think it's funny that yesterdayyou did the nineteen eighty fourth thing.
I get so, I will tellyou that I thought that same thing.
I was like, Man, thatdiscussion of nineteen eighty four was especially

(42:05):
timely because now we're seeing this kindof soft totalitarianism in action, and soft
totalitarianism inevitably becomes hard totalitarianism. Right. So, and I think the argument
that Trump is already making that ifthey can do this to him, they
can do it to anybody, isgoing to be a very compelling argument for
a lot of people. Oh yeah, and let's see what happens to the

(42:29):
Biden. We'll see what happens ina hunter, because he is going to
trial after the DOJ tried to givehim a sweetheart deal that the judge rejected.
He's now going to have to facethe same justice system. We'll see
if the President sings a different songof his son gets convicted. Yeah,
all right, Chila, I appreciatethe call. No, thank you,

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Peggy, you are on KOA.What's on your mind? Hie Nandy?
I'm with you. In the samecamp. I'm not a fan of the
man Donald Trump, but i Iwhat has sound to me is this love
of Biden and this hate of Trump. I mean, that's the fascinating that
people who hate Trump hate them witha visceral And yet so I am worried

(43:13):
when people say, oh, we'regoing to have a landslide, because I'm
kind of waiting for the next youto drop on what the Democrats are going
to try and pull to pull itoff. And the other thing people have
to understand is the government when theygo after somebody, they have an unlimited
pocket book. Yep. Now hehas money, but if you think about
it as a normal person, ifyou do something and you get on the

(43:35):
government's radar, they will come afteryou and they can write blank check after
blank check, so the whole system, and this shows that they can do
it with a man who has money. It's like, imagine people if you
were a lesser person like some ofthe people who caught up in a January
sixth situation exactly, you know,And that's what that is why we would

(43:57):
vote for Trump. We've never donatedto Trump. We did yesterday. Mandy,
Uh yeah, Well, Peggy,oh, you've never donated, and
you donated yesterday, Peggy. Youjust brought up something the January sixth defendants.
You know, we all know theguy with the helmet and the horns,
and we know the guy who satat Nancy Pelosi's desk. But what
people may not realize is that theyare still years later going after people,

(44:20):
elderly women who you know, walkedinto the Capitol building and then walked out,
and they're going after property. Yeah, but they're also going after pro
life protesters. They're trying to puthim in jail for eleven years for sitting
outside an abortion clinic and praying rightthat. This is part of the overall
strategy that they're doing it with Trumppeople. And I don't know if you
heard Steve Moore earlier. He's oneof Trump's economic advisors. So he said,

(44:45):
you know, here I am.I'm sitting here wondering are they going
to come knock on my door inthe middle of the night because I worked
for the Trump team. And thisis what they're trying to do. They're
trying to make it so you can'teven express your opinion without fear of prosecution.
And people should be aware of that. If you're a business person,
if you're I mean, we've alreadyseen the Democrats do that with businesses.

(45:05):
If you know, you look atthe cake maker and it's it's that.
To me is what is one ofthe most frightening pieces of where we are
right now is how they've taken it. And if you think they can do
it, Trump just to mets whatthey can do to an ordinary person.
And that is exactly the message thathe's going to be carrying. Peggy.
I hope so, and then Ihope he doesn't do something stupid. Amen,

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that second part. I'm right therewith you, just like you're just
like to pull it together. Trump, you can do this. You can
do it, all right, Peggy. I appreciate the phone call so much.
Yeah, I hate you too.Eileen. You're on KOA. What's
on your mind? Hi? Man, this is Eileen calling from Thornton.
Hello, Eileen, I want toI want to start by asking you a
question, if I may sure,what do you think is the most powerful

(45:52):
branch of the government. In theory, they should all be balanced properly.
Hah. Well, it's that's yourquestion, because it's the fourth branch of
government that's the most powerful, thebureaucracy, the permanent government, the bureaucracy
of the bureaucracy, and the administrativestate. I was a career naval officer.

(46:15):
I worked in both sides of businesswith the government in contracting after I
retired. I've met these people upclose and personal, the arrogant administrative state.
They are almost all appointed people andimpossible to fire, impossible to fire,

(46:39):
and they are mostly a lot oflegacy people from legacy schools and institutions
and so forth. So to makemy point, I am going to vote
for mister Trump. Were you aTrump supporter before this verdict? I realized,

(47:02):
working in and around the government,that the Republic was not just in
trouble. It is pretty much gone, Mandy, It's gone. I unfortunately
feel the same way. And Idon't like to be sad and salty and
bad and looking bleak upon our future. But man, we're doing some dumb

(47:22):
stuff right now. The fight rightnow is to restore the constitution and restore
the Republic. And this is whythe permanent government fears mister Trump so much,
and painting in such a vulgar manner. I agree, that's where I'm

(47:44):
going with it. Well, Itotally agree, and I'd love to see
significant civil service reform, right,like you think the system has to be
reformed because you have to be ableto fire someone who is actively working to
subvert the will of the administration.Right. It could be a democratic administration,
it could be a Republican administration,but we all know the government workers

(48:07):
are overwhelmingly Democrat, and so youhave to be able to fire people that
you know are subverting your efforts toget whatever policy positions you're trying to put
in place. Well, you know, I had a lot of silvilian gs
and WS level employees and sees peopleyou know, senior and executive staff folks

(48:32):
in the civil service system that workedfor me. And I will tell you
ninety percent of them hardworking, greatAmericans. They do their job, you
know, in the politics. Ihave tasted the politics, and it's you
know, there is a small percentagethat are activists within the bureaucracy. They

(48:52):
can do so much damage, andthat's the problem. Those people should be
able to be fired, you knowwhat I mean, It only takes a
few We see that in the FBI. I think the FBI is overwhelmingly inhabited
by really good law enforcement officers whogot into it because they have a servants
heart and they want to fight crimein the United States of America. But

(49:13):
that corrupt ten percent that you're talkingabout, they have an outsized influence in
the FBI. They're the ones thatlied on the Pisa warrants. They're the
ones that have never been held accountablefor lying on the Pisa warrants. So
we've got to fix the system sothey can be fired. Yeah, all
right, Eleane, thanks for thecall. I appreciate it. Let's see

(49:34):
here. Cynthia, you are onKOA. What you got, Hi,
Mandy, I was calling to answeryour question. I was planning on voting
for Trump before the child since I'mnot overly happy with the current administration.
Since the verdict, I'm still planningon voting for Trump. Excellent, excellent.
So this didn't make you, Imean, what did anything change injuries

(50:00):
you were? You were locked inalready and now you're going to be locked
in still. I was pretty lockedin already and I'm just locked in still.
Okay, perfect. I appreciate that. Cynthia. Let me get one
more before the break. Bob youare on KOA. What you got,
Bob? Yeah? I was justgoing to add that I think the whole
thing's kind of a distraction in away, because yes, it's an important

(50:22):
issue of you know, whether heyou know, gets, you know,
find found guilty or whatever. ButI'm kind of with you in the camp
of the national debt being a realissue, because when you know, in
a decade or two, when we'rebroke, no one's gonna care about any
of this. Oh my god,no, no, we're broke now.

(50:43):
I just saw a column on UnleashingProsperity Steve Moore's daily newsletter. We are
our debt service in this country.The amount of money that we pay every
year just in interest on the debthas grown exponentially. Our budget is now
seven point one trillion dollars, almosttwo trillion of which is deficit spending.

(51:05):
We're we're not just careening off acliff. We're halfway. We're in a
bus and the front half of thebus is already off the cliff and the
back half is barely hanging on.And people do not realize what's about to
happen. And we have to havesomebody that is going to fix it.
And I don't think Trump was seriousabout that. At all in his first
term. That for me was ahuge disappointment. But I do think he

(51:27):
surrounded himself with economic advisors like SteveMoore who are very avid about doing something
about government spending. So we shallsee and hopefully they do do something.
Yeah, we'll see, we shallsee. I appreciate the phone call very
much, Bob. We're gonna takea very quick time out and when we
get back, I've got a coupleof things I want to share with you,
but I want to read and it'slong, so settle in. I

(51:52):
don't normally read long stuff, butdang, this is so good and I
don't think I can do it justice, So I just want to go to
So a guy named Sean McGuire.I had never heard of Sean McGuire before
today. Yesterday. Actually it isthe first time I heard of him.
And twenty one hours ago, sobefore the verdict came down, Sean McGuire

(52:13):
put out a long X message tweet, a long tweet that's titled I just
donated three hundred K to Trump.Now. Sean McGuire, I found out
after I looked him up, isa super smart He's he's got a doctorate
in quantum physics. He started fourcompanies, two of which he sold for
hundreds of millions of dollars. Andnow he's a venture capitalist and he is

(52:37):
very well connected in Silicon Valley.And this could be a shift. In
the next segment, I want totalk about what this verdict could shift,
who could be moved by this verdict? Right, that's where we're going to
talk about after this. Of course, you knew that GOP chair of Colorado

(52:59):
David william would figure out a wayto griff for himself off of this,
and indeed he did. Oh yes, he did. Let me find out
where this is from. I didn'topen it up, hang on it second
from an article from Time magazine.To the Trump campaign's chagrin, however,
some Republicans appear to be rallying aroundTrump's conviction to solicit donations just for themselves.

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Colorado congressional candidate Dave Williams, Politicoreported, sent out a message lambasting
Trump's conviction with a button that readsstand with Trump and Dave, but clicking
on the button directs to Williams solefundraising page, not even the GOP website.
Although he also sent out a similarmessage from the Colorado GOP email address,

(53:49):
and it essentially did the same thing. Stand with the Colorado GOP and
Trump, but then it just takesyou to the Colorado GOP. Do not
donate to the Colorado GOP. Donateto the candidates that you feel good about,
donate directly to them. Do notPASSCO, do not. I have

(54:13):
a question for those of you,and this was trending earlier on Twitter,
and I just the people that arerunning around saying civil war is the answer.
I mean, seriously, y'all,are you Are you a dumbass if
you're saying that like that, civilwar is the absolute last resort, as

(54:36):
in every other thing has been attemptedand failed, and saving a presidential candidate
via civil war is a bit overthe top in my opinion, regardless of
how much you like him. Thelast civil war we had in the United
States, where eight hundred thousand Americansdied, we thought to free slaves.

(55:01):
We fought because people were enslaved inthis country. That's a good reason for
a civil war. Because a presidentgot unjustly convicted, that's not reason for
a civil war. And it's alwayspeople that are like you know, they
think they'd be really good at itbecause they play call of duty all the
time. But they really haven't beenoutside in a long time either, And

(55:25):
if you had them try to runa mile, they would not be able
to make it. It's always thatgroup. It's the guys who go into
Starbucks wearing a rifle on their backjust to be provocative. It's that guy
that's the furthest thing from what weneed right now. People that glorify things

(55:45):
like the notion of civil war.I don't want to live in a country
that's ripped apart by civil war whereAmericans are war with their neighbors, because
this wouldn't be the North. Inthe South, think about how divided your
neighborhood is. My neighborhood is prettyconservative. But there are ther you know,
Biden signs here and there. AlthoughI will say this, in twenty
twenty there was the random Biden sign. Have not seen any Biden signs this

(56:07):
time, so I don't know what'sgoing on there. Maybe it's too early,
we'll have to see, But couldyou imagine fighting to the death with
your neighbor I don't want to livein that world. I still have faith,
I still I know I'm sitting heretalking about how everything's wrong right,
but I really do want to havefaith that we can write the ship.
Talking to one of our earlier callersabout doing away with a sort of entrenched

(56:30):
bureaucracy that exists. That's a bigpart of it. So let me jump
into this. I want to getthis post by Sean Maguire. He's a
venture capitalist, he's incredibly rich,he's got a PhD in quantum physics.
And I'm going to read to youthis Twitter post. I might have time
to get it in. I mightnot. I might have to make it
a two parter because I might notread it all because it's really long.

(56:52):
But I haven't linked on the blogtoday at mandy'sblog dot com. He starts
with I just donated three hundred kto Trump. I'm prepared to lose friends.
Here's why. Back in twenty sixteen, I had drunk the media kool
aid and was scared out of mymind about Trump. As such, I
donated to Hillary Clinton's campaign and votedfor her. By twenty twenty, I
was disillusioned and didn't vote. Ididn't like either option. Now, in

(57:15):
twenty twenty four, I believe thisis one of the most important elections of
my lifetime, and I'm supporting Trump. I know that I'll lose friends for
this. Some will refuse to dobusiness with me. The media will probably
demonize me, as they have somany others before me. But despite this,
I still believe it's the right thingto do. I refuse to live
in a society where people are afraidto speak the twenty sixteen election. I'm

(57:39):
going to start off with something provocative, but I think it leads to a
different take on the most controversial Trumpissue, which obviously is January sixth,
So here goes nothing. I believethe twenty sixteen election was manipulated to hurt
Hillary Clinton and to help Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton herself believes this. She
has denied the sixteen election results dozensof times and still does to this day.

(58:04):
Plot twist. I agree with her. Look into Goose Offer two point
zero, which was the quote hackergroup that strategically leaked her email through WikiLeaks
in a drip campaign at just theright moments. Turns out it was the
Russian gru And remember all those fakenews and bought farms. These incidents are
the tip of the spear. Someof the publicly known incidents there was an

(58:25):
extreme manipulation happening during the twenty sixteenelection. Before proceeding, please watch at
least thirty seconds of this video.It's twenty four straight minutes of Democrats denying
election results. Russia and others interferingwith the twenty sixteen election was nothing new.
This happens in every election everywhere inthe world, obviously, But for

(58:46):
me, as someone who used towork in national security, Russia's implicit support
for Trump made me deathly afraid ofhim getting elected as president. I was
wrong and Russian miscalculated. President Trumpturned out to be a master of foreign
policy, and particularly strong towards Russia. If you've never seen it before,
please watch this two minute clip fromTrump at a NATO breakfast five years ago.

(59:09):
If you're too lazy, Trump toldGermany that they're a owned by Russia
via their energy dependence, b financingRussia's war machine by buying their energy,
C not investing in their own defense, investing one percent of GDP, which
was below the two percent NATO commitment. Meanwhile, the US was investing four

(59:29):
point two percent of GDP, andyet the world said He's owned by Russia.
For another Trump foreign policy wins heA signed the Abraham Accords, b
successfully put around in the penalty box, which the Biden administration immediately unwound,
and c He helped India see thedangers of having their comms networks controlled by
China, resulting in Huey and TikTokbands. There my radicalization towards the center.

(59:55):
August sixteenth, twenty twenty one wasthe day I knew I could never
support Joe Biden or any of thesenior officials in his administration. This was
the day that Afghans fell to theirdeaths from USC seventeen airplanes at the Kabble
International Airport and back in twenty twelve, I deployed to Afghanistan working for Dharpa.
I used to fly out of Kiaat least weekly, sometimes taking a

(01:00:17):
black Hawk to Bagram, sometimes jumpinga seat one thirty down to Kandahar.
I'm not going to go into allthe details here, but this was personal
for me, as it was foreveryone that served in Afghanistan. Most have
the wrong impression of what happened there. Afghanistan wasn't Iraq and real progress had
been made. It took roughly fifteenyears to stabilize most of Afghanistan, that

(01:00:38):
the ISAF coalition had gotten it tothe place that little girls were going to
school in Kabble sometimes walked there bytheir mothers, who weren't even wearing burkers
anymore. All of this was unimaginablea decade prior. And then there's the
strategic aspect. The US's most strategicbase in Afghanistan was Bagram Airfield. Unless

(01:00:59):
you've been, there's poossible to imaginehow strategic this base is and how easy
it is to defend. Nestled ina remote valley at the foothills of the
Himalayas, within a couple hour flightof China and Iran and a few minute
flight to Pakistan, I believe thisairfield could have been held for fifty plus
years with fifty thousand men, asimilar scale to the US permanent forces stationed

(01:01:20):
at Ramstein Air Force Base in Germanyor the US bases in Okinawa, Japan.
We gave up one of the moststrategic air bases in the world,
and arguably stability in Kabul for politicalgain to be able to say that President
Biden ended the war in Afghanistan,and we did it in the most incompetent
manner, possibly literally with people fallingfrom our airplanes. Everyone I've spoken with

(01:01:45):
that served in Afghanistan knows this.And now I'm going to read you the
topics that he covers in the restof this. He covers global instability,
he covers Israel, he covers thedouble standards of all of the litigation that's
occurred. He covers law fare,he covers where do he talks about,
where he disagrees with Republicans. Hetalks about domestic policies. The twenty twenty

(01:02:07):
election in January sixth. It goeson and on and on and on,
But then I want to get tothe summary. In twenty sixteen, there
were two primary reasons I voted forHillary and was deftly afraid of Trump,
says Sean maguire. Number One,Russia helped him in the election by hurting

(01:02:27):
Hillary. This made me susceptible tothe media narrative that he's owned by Russia
and will be a foreign policy disaster. Number Two, candidly, the clip
where he said I grabbed them bytheir bleep deeply bothered me. These two
things built a pattern in my mindthat Trump was out of control. But
now with the benefit of hindsight revisitingthese two points. Number One, to
my shock, I believe Trump wasone of the best foreign policy presidents in

(01:02:51):
decades and during the most complex periodin almost a century. Number two,
that clip still sits in the backof my mind. But I person consider
the double standards in lawfare against Trumpto be ten times worse and ten times
more dangerous for our democracy. Andthen he goes on from there. It
is fantastic. I put a linkto it on the blog. You need

(01:03:12):
to read the whole thing, andif you need to argue with people about
this, this is where you findgreat ammunition to do that. This person
on the text line pointed out Trumptried to dismantle and threatened NATO all the
time, one of the best alliancesin history of the world. He was
rotten it foreign policy except maybe theAbraham Accords. Otherwise he was a train
wreck sucking up to brutal dictators.Let's really talk about what Trump did with

(01:03:35):
NATO. Trump went to NATO andsaid, it is time you people started
living up to the two percent ofGDP required spending for defense, because guess
what, none of the other nationsin NATO had done that none. They
absolutely looked at the United States andour military as their military and their defense.

(01:04:00):
They're like, hey, we gotArticle five. If somebody comes after
us, the United States is gonnacome and protect us. Going after NATO
to get them to live up totheir contractual obligations. I was all for
that. Are you kidding me?And guess what? Guess what, here's
the crazy part. Guess who's livingup to their NATO obligations. Now,
not every country is living up totheir spending, but more than we're When

(01:04:25):
Trump took off this, why inthe world would you want us, with
our thirty seven trillion dollars debt whateverit is now, to be responsible for
an overwhelming share of military spending inNATO? Why would you want that?
I don't get that. Why shouldn'tNATO, which by the way, is

(01:04:48):
facing far more immediate threats than weare? Right? Do we really think
Canada is gonna roll over the northernborder? No Mexico. I mean,
you could argue that Mexico is rollingover the southern border via the cartels,
but we're not asking NATO to haveour back. So yeah, I'm all
for that. I thought that wasbrilliant absolutely brilliant on Trump's behalf. Trump

(01:05:13):
was great at foreign policy because hewas so unpredictable. And yes, he
talked to that little weasel from NorthKorea, but when he realized it wasn't
going anywhere, he stopped talking tohim, Unlike Joe Biden, who I
don't know. I was about tosay something wildly inappropriate. I have to
rain myself back in or I'm gonnacurse on the radio. Joe Biden has

(01:05:38):
given the country where people run aroundchanting death to America one hundred and fifty
billion dollars that they then funneled toplaces like Hamas and Hezbola to attack our
greatest ally in Israel. So saveit on your idiotic Trump sucked on foreign

(01:06:00):
policy you are. That's the dumbesttake I've heard all day, and I've
heard some dumb ones today. Giveme a break, good Lord, just
to review because I realized that y'allweren't listening at the beginning of the show.
Somebody just asked this question. Withthe Trump sentencing, do you think
the judge will wit with the maxor even beyond rational punishment like ten years

(01:06:21):
jail time? Be a clear reflectionof his bias, and if so,
would there be repercussions for his decision? Just curious doubt it happens. I
do not think that Donald Trump isgoing to get jail time. He is
a first time offender, and firsttime offenders generally don't get jail time for

(01:06:43):
this kind of situation. Not tomention, the logistics of putting a former
president in prison would be an absolutenightmare, just a crazy, crazy nightmare.
So oh yeah, yeah, Mandy, I can't find your blog.
By the way, I love yourshow, the blog is they've made it

(01:07:05):
a little more complicated to get tothe blog. Okay, So I'm gonna
walk you through it one more time. And by the way, I don't
they don't ask me before they makechanges to the website, so I you
know, I do the best Ican. Go to mandy'sblog dot com.
That is going to take you tomy page on k away. When you
get there, you're going to seesomething that says latest posts. That's full

(01:07:25):
headline latest post, and it hasa series of boxes underneath it with pictures.
If it has a picture of me, that is a podcast. If
it says the date and then blog, that is the blog. Click on
that You may have to scroll tothe right using a little scroller bar underneath
the latest posts, but once youscroll over, you can then see today's

(01:07:46):
blog. Just click on that photo. It's going to take you to the
blog and the Sean McGuire piece.When you scroll down, there is a
little there's a there's actually a tweetfrom X that says Sean McGuire. Click
on that and it will open itfor you. Okay, there's if you
have an underlined or a highlighted party, a bolded part in a story,
that is a hyperlink, you canclick on that as well. Somebody said,

(01:08:11):
why are none of the liberal texturescalling in? That's a good question.
I'll take those calls next liberal texturesonly in the next segment three O
three seven one, three eighty fiveeighty five. We'll do that next.
We all can agree we need adrink, so we're gonna have the wine
Yogi coming up. A Rod's alreadygot his nose and a glass of wine.
And I do mean his nose.We'll get more on that later.

(01:08:33):
Pinky's up. Everyone. We're gonnabe talking about drinks for summer, because
we're coming into summer rapidly. Andoh, it's here. Uh. I
guess I have this text message becauseno one called three O three seven one
three eighty five eighty five when Iasked for liberal textures, only this texture
said, I guess I could beconsidered one of your liberal textures. I'd

(01:08:54):
call in, but I'm at workand work in a loud environment, so
we probably wouldn't hear each other.But I would like to say that I
will not be voting for Biden.I can't stand Trump, but I think
he was definitely targeted in this case. I'm really concerned about the future of
the country. I will be changingmy voting status to independent because the current
left is sickening in so many ways. Holy goah, I did not expect

(01:09:17):
that to go that way because Ididn't read it before. I just did
that, Mandy. I still can'tfigure out how to navigate the blog page
on my phone trying to find thelink to Sean's statement. Y'all, I'm
just gonna say this, and I'mprobably gonna get in trouble. I hate
what I hurt media has done tothe blog page, but they do not

(01:09:39):
ask me, and and I'm gonnabe perfectly frank. I don't act on
my page like every other host iniHeart Media's you know, corral acts on
THEIRS. A vast majority of peoplethat use this same platform are music people,
so they put podcasts and videos andstuff like that. I'm the only

(01:10:00):
one who actually writes, I'm prettysure in the whole company. So they
don't taken and Ross Rosskaminski, ofcourse, thank you for correcting me on
that. So they don't really takewhat I do into consideration. And it's
super frustrating, and I'm so sorry, so so so sorry. I wish
I had a better answer for you, and I can't pull up my phone
right now to walk you through this. Now, who is this gonna who

(01:10:25):
could be turned by this guilty chargewith Trump? I wanted to talk about
this earlier. We just had anexample. We have a liberal who said,
look, I don't like Trump,but I can't be a Democrat anymore
because the left has gone so insane. If you heard Ross's show earlier,
he was talking to Nelly Bowles,who I talked to last week. She

(01:10:49):
a rock solid progressive reporter at theNew York Times. Also became disillusioned with
what was going on at the NewYork Times and really about about everything,
And I'm wondering, like the peoplein this country that have a sense of
grievance already, And that sounds likean insult, but there's a lot of

(01:11:10):
people carrying around a chip on theirshoulder for a variety of reasons. People
feel like they're treated unfairly on aregular basis. They feel like the system
is stacked against them. They feellike they can't get ahead, they feel
like government doesn't work for them,they feel like their vote doesn't matter,
they feel like they are up againstthe world. Trump talking about his message

(01:11:31):
of being a political prisoner and howhe's being persecuted, it's going to resonate.
Is it going to resonate with AfricanAmericans who believe that the justice system
is unfair? Is it going toresonate with them? So I saw a
tweet this morning from a black guythat said, you ain't black if you
don't vote for the guy with thirtyfour felonies, and I thought that was
quite the funny take on the commentthat Joe Biden made many years ago where

(01:11:56):
he said you ain't black unless youvote for me, which is comical because
he's literally the pastiest white guy inthe history of pasty white guys. That's
like me saying you ain't black unlessyou listen to this show. When I
know I am as like suburban whiteyas suburban whitey gets. Okay, I
mean I drive a mom car.I do you know I'm wearing slip on
shoes right now that are that arenot like formal, They're just they're just

(01:12:20):
slip on. I'm just as whiteas white can be. So I'm wondering
who who moves on this. Wedo know that Trump took in thirty five
million dollars yesterday one day haul.I don't think there's maybe there has been
a bigger haul. I don't know, Oh Aron, I forgot to do
this earlier. A Rod and Ihave a sponsor and we are going to

(01:12:43):
the DNC, the Democratic National Convention. I need a sponsor to go to
the RNC, which now just gota lot more interesting, okay. I
mean the DNC is already going tobe in a dumpster fire because all the
pro Hamas protesters are going to showup there. BLM's going to show up,
Antifa's going to show up. It'sgoing to be wild. But the
Republican Convention is in Milwaukee a rod. What are we going to do for

(01:13:06):
a sponsor if they come on boardand sponsor our trip to the rn C.
First of all, you get abunch of commercials, yes, like
real commercials on KOA to advertise yourbusiness. So that's the first thing,
yes, But what is this goingto look like for a sponsor. Well,
while it would be smarter to savetime and tell you what we wouldn't
do, I will tell you thatwe will do that's good, which is
a little bit of everything. Soyou are going to be basically partnered with

(01:13:28):
every little bit of our covers.Like man, you mentioned our on air
commercials, everything on the air elementshere, all kinds of different awesome live
commercials, all the great stuff hereon here. But on social media that
means Facebook x formerly known as Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, all the above.
We will be basically taking your companyand taking you along for the ride
of success with all of our awesomeengagement. Your logo will be smacked everywhere,

(01:13:48):
everywhere, everywhere. We will bechatting about your company throughout the entirety
of the week, and you'll begetting thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands
of what we're going to be doingat the actual conventions is they have what's
called a radio row where they havea bunch of radio stations set up and
they basically bring politicians. They startthem at one end of the row and
they just bring them down they talkto everybody. But while we're not doing

(01:14:10):
the show, A Rod and Iare going to be doing interviews. We're
gonna be doing videos. We're gonnabe arod just stood ups. It's gonna
be good. What Mandy on theStreet, Oh, yes, street interviews
Sam, Mandy on the Street.Well, we need a sponsor. God,
that's good. Yeah, we needone right now. That's why you
paid the little bucks. Need oneright now? Three o three seven.
Excuse me. I want you toemail me, and I'm dead serious.

(01:14:31):
There is a price tag attached tothis. Well, like I said,
you get a whole bunch of stuff. If you have a business you've always
wanted to advertise, this is yourchance. Email me Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia
dot com. That's the easiest emailaddress, Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com
and we will hook you up.We've got to find a sponsor so we
can go. So please and ifyou can somehow pay for security for us

(01:14:54):
too, that'd be great because it'sgonna be a little nutty. Well,
I don't need security, I'm needed. I've done a Crab Magau class.
Okay, I've done one. I'vedone a Crab mcgaug class. I'm good.
I can protect us with the isreally stuff defends it's scary. Krab
Magau is scary. There's a lotof hitting in that and poking of eyes

(01:15:15):
and whatnot. So if you wantto do that, Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia
dot com, just send us anemail. We'll help help that out.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings bycalling your personal foreign policy uh comments stupid
text her, But there were stupidI mean, you've listened to the show,

(01:15:35):
you know, and I don't pullpunches. So if you send a
stupid text message, there's a chancethat I'm going to tell you it's a
stupid text message. But I didtell you why in my defense, why
anyway to the text roage of sentMandy the street Walker, Sir or madam,

(01:15:57):
you spelled my name incorrectly, andfor that I am offended. We'll
be right back to the WINOGI joiningus next if there's ever been a Friday
that we need a cocktail, itis today, because let me tell you,
today is the day I didn't bringany cocktails. Well, you brought
an absolutely delicious wine. I broughta great summer wine. Yeah. We
actually had another guest schedule today,but I was like, look, it's

(01:16:18):
the Trump verdict and we're going tobe doing that, so we'll reschedule you.
And he was very kind and he'llbe in. We'll get him rescheduled.
He's running for office. And Iwas like, should I reschedule?
No, I should not reschedule theWinogi because I need her today. I
need her, and you have delivered. We're talking today about the drinks of
summer. For me, Sparkling Roseis the beverage of summer. Oh yeah

(01:16:42):
for Shanida. Fizz from Carboy forme is like the perfect summer beverage.
But there are lots of options,and the win Yogi has written a fantastic
blog post. It's a little bitlower in the blog than it normally is
because I have all the Trump stuff, But if you look for the video
of Donald Trump reacting to the guiltyverdict, you'll find the Wineyogi's blog right
below that, because it's like summeris vacation, it is sitting by the

(01:17:10):
pool, it's having a late dinneroutside with friends. It's just more relaxed.
Right. It's hot, Yes,it's hot. So yeah, most
of the well I did so Ioffered mostly wines, but I did kind
of also offer some non alcoholic optionsas well, and some links to some
fabulous folks that are doing amazing thingswith mocktails in addition to making amazing wine.

(01:17:32):
But when a Rod reached out tome before their crews, they were
in Miami and we facetimed, hesaid, you hooked him up so hard,
he's so happy. But my bigemphasis to him is you want something
that's going to be lower and alcoholby volume. You also, especially if
you even are a red wine drinker, because those red wines tend to be

(01:17:53):
fuller bodied, yeah, ideavy heavy. Those may not necessarily be your traditional
NAPA cabs and things like that thatare really big and bold, tannic wines
that you would normally have by thefire, which a Rod was asking me,
what's really good by the fight,But so you want to kind of

(01:18:15):
start to explore those wines that arelighter in body, and there are a
lot of reds out there. Infact, I was just meeting with a
distributor earlier today picking out some winesto pair with fixing feast classes down at
the French kitchen, and I'm like, gosh, you know, especially in
the summertime, we want to gowith a lighter red for some of these
steak and beef. What are you? There are some people who are and
a lot of it has to dowith the perception of carbs, which I

(01:18:39):
get. There are a lot ofpeople in my life that are like red
wine for life. They do notwant to drink anything else other than red
wine. So what are the lighterreds that someone would look for if they
do want to offer a red wine? I would begin first in the Old
World, because in the Old meaningEurope, meaning Europe, you are looking
at winemakers that are especially if theyare following more traditional DOC requirements DOCG just

(01:19:05):
the standardization of that particular country,is it. Let me ask you a
question about Old World wines since we'rekind of having this conversation that we'll get
into the actual wines after the bottomof the hour. Break. Okay,
are they I mean they've they've beenmaking wine for so long, so it
seems like the quality the specs,if you will, of various varieties of

(01:19:25):
wine, they're tightly regulated in Europe. Is that correct? That is correct?
Okay, so they're more rigid inthere, sort of you have to
be in the silo in order tofit into this kind of wine. Yes,
And it is very regionally dependent.So what is the standard in Burgundy
and Champagna as compared to what thestandard is and say Tuscany or Sicily or

(01:19:45):
as you move over to Greece orthe Iberian peninsula of Spain and Portugal,
all of their standards are going tobe different. And so sometimes it may
be what types of varietals they're goingto go into this wine for it to
be classified a Bordeaux. It maybe the amount of time that it spends
uh in oak aging to be classifiedChiani classico, CANi superiority. So it's

(01:20:12):
all of these different it's all veryregionally specific. Uh. And so you
know, Spain and Portugal are ifyou're looking at summer wines. For me,
I like to go to hotter areas. So while their standard may not
be as pinkies out, you know, to as Burgundy. They are still

(01:20:32):
pretty much going to have some standardsthat they've established for winemakers for it to
be called a rio ha. Thosethose are big bold wines though, Are
rio oha temporneo? Those are theyhave a lot going on? Are you
real ha is timporneo? It's justfrom rio hah perfect. But so if
you can still get Spanish temporneo thatis not real hot and it really just

(01:20:54):
it depends though the the You canget some rio has that are balanced,
not just from the tannins, sothe times from the grapes themselves, from
that skin, how much time itspends in oak, for example, can
also then increase. It's all verycomplicated, it is. It's very very
complicated. That's why you FaceTime mefrom a liquor store in Miami, be

(01:21:15):
giving her face time. I addressedit, or hang on with zech.
But when we come back, we'lltalk about the actual what kind of lighter
reds we're actually talking about. We'lldo that right after this. We're talking
about summer beverages. I want todo two quick questions from the text line.
People can always text us at fivesix six and I oh, one
is strawberry wine. Is it good? My mother says it is, and

(01:21:36):
she claims that's what she got pregnanton with me. Oh very nice,
a little Boonz farm and so no. So, first of all, the
only wine wine itself is made fromvitaeponefra. You can have that's grape,
that's grapes, and specifically, likeeven if it's Native American grapes, Okay,
I'll give you a pass. It'sat least made from grapes. But

(01:21:57):
if it's fermented fruit, that's notin my world wine. So whether it's
made from lemons or strawberries or rubarbor whatever it is, that's just it's
fermented fruit juice and it's the sameprocess. But because of the amount of
sugar coming from those fruits, that'swhy they're sweet. So if you want
a sweet wine, by all means, go get some boons farms, strawberry

(01:22:21):
fields or whatever it's called. AndI'm sure you would love it. It's
not for my palate. The sugaris too much for me. This question
what happened to JCB sparkling Rose.Can't find it anywhere, and it's probably
if you are checking out your localliquor stores and wine shops. It may
be a distribution issue because a lotof these companies change distributors all the time,

(01:22:45):
and because we are so far fromthe coasts, and also because with
COVID we are still dealing with theramifizations of the supply chain and production.
This is why having a good winestore that you go to is important.
And the big thing is is youcan go ask them if yes, that's
what I'm saying, we're carrying itbefore go and talk to them. It
may just be that either they stoppedcarrying it because they couldn't sell it at

(01:23:09):
the price that they originally were sellingit at, or maybe you know,
it's just been rotated out of theirstock. But most wine stores will if
you love it, order it bythe case and then they will typically give
you a case discount. Yeah,so that's why you got to find a
good wine store in your area.So what are we talking about? We're
talking about rose, We're talking aboutwhat red wines. First, do you

(01:23:30):
recommend for those hardcore ride or diewith my red wine people that are never
going to come off that red wine? What do you recommend in summer that's
a little bit lighter? And Ihad mentioned I had met with a rep
this morning tasting some wines, andin fact I specifically asked her to bring
in god Nacha, which is theSpanish version of grenache. It's their approach,
it is, and the ones thatwe tasted were absolutely stunning. It

(01:23:51):
is a much lighter, more balancedwine in terms of tannin's in acidity,
So you are going to have alittle bit more acidity, but you're still
going to have that tannic structure thatyou like. And one of the nice
things that about those types of winesis they are very very food friendly and
because you can even put a littlechill on it when you're grilling, you
can sit there and guy, Ilike my wine. I mean, in

(01:24:14):
my mind, I want my redwine at the same temperature as the castle.
Yes, that it was supposed tobe, so like fifty five degrees
is where I'm happiest with that.I am the queen of my castle.
We were talking about, you know, there's a Seinfeld but that was my
favorite episode, by the way,But that if you imagine back in the
day, room temperature was going tobe much closer to those cellar temperatures of

(01:24:38):
fifty eight to roughly sixty two degrees, so ideally suited for red wine.
So if you're having something while you'regrilling ribbis or whatever, or you need
something just you know, take theheat off of a hot summer day.
Yeah, I love a good garnacha. Okay, let's talk about my favorite.
For me. Summer is all aboutrose. Yes, and I love
a sparkling rose, I love aflat rose. I love a rose beca

(01:25:00):
because they're so diverse and you canhave such a broad spectrum of roses.
What are roses specifically? What arethey made of? Obviously they're that pale,
pink or dark or pink wine,but what are they specifically? So
they are what red wine drinkers typicallydrink in the summertime in places that they
don't have air conditioning. I eatOld World and what it is is it

(01:25:21):
is grape grape must that has comeinto some contact. It has kissed the
skins. So during the crush process, if you are making a red wine,
say a red wine of grenache,sometimes they would capture the residual juice
that would flow off of these crushmachines. Because now that it's mechanical,

(01:25:43):
they can trap everything. They're notlosing it. But if you actually go
and look at these old crushes wherethey or if they footstomped, some of
that juice would actually kind of spillover, and they didn't capture it for
the red wine. But what smartwine makers would do is they would capture
that juice, ferment it, andthen they would throw it into the river
and have that when it was toohot to drink their red wine. And

(01:26:03):
so nowadays what you have are winemakersthat are catering to kind of that uh,
that palette that enjoys some aspects ofred wine without all of the tannic
structure that dries the mouth out.That they still want some more of that
acidity which makes you salivate. That'sideally suited for lighter food that we typically

(01:26:24):
have your salads and your lighter fish, salmon, barbecue, barbecues and things
like that in the summertime. Sothey're really starting to cater to that.
Unfortunately, in the United States,and I was I'm guilty and a victim
of it as well. Barringer andSutter home back in the day that was
white n so a lot of peopleassociate because they actually added sugar into the

(01:26:46):
white zen, right, and it'snot a rose of zinfandel, and it
was to kind of cater to thattwenty something American American palette. And so
now I feel like I'm constantly deprogrammingFoo that the rod's coming along nicely,
that this rose is not sweet rosehas a more fruit forward profile and it

(01:27:10):
and it may not have the tannicstructure and finish that you're used to where
the mouth completely dries out with someof your bigger reds, but it still
has a lot of the components thatyou probably might enjoy in a typically read
whine. Now that the striations ofcolor the super super pale like where they
literally kiss the skins for a couplehours versus this spent twenty four hours on

(01:27:30):
the skins because you brought in talkabout the wine you brought in. And
there's a blog on there's a linkon the blog today just under the video
of Donald Trump reacting to his convictionyesterday. The next blog entry is the
wine US blog entry. And shewrites all of this stuff down so you
don't have to make notes and youdon't have to try. And remember,
she does a fantastic job of makingthis accessible to you guys. And also

(01:27:53):
she's got a bunch of information ontoday's blog about upcoming events. If you
want to go to a wine event, the car Boys Big Rose La La
La event is coming up in abouttwo week seven, that week from today.
Yeah, so that's a really funevent if you just want to kind
of go and dip your toe intoit. I think Carboy does rose beautifully.
Yeah, Tiazac makes a good one, I mean beautifully. They just

(01:28:15):
there. I love their rose.I'm I'm I'm a dedicated fan to Carboys
and this is all gonna be Coloradorose. So you're gonna get to meet
the actual wine makers themselves while they'repouring and talk to them about, you
know, how did they make thisparticular rose, or you know, just
like Carria, a bunch of stuff. I mean, that's the other option.
Just try a bunch of stuff,find that what you like, and
some amazing food too from their theirchef there at there. It's not the

(01:28:39):
little Tin location. It's the onethat's here closer to downtown Denver, Okay.
But the I brought brought in arose from Centennial Sellers out of Palisade.
It's a Bacco rose. So Baccois a French hybrid that if you're
familiar at all with the white winefrom France called Pickpool, it's the same
grape, but it's been hybridized witha nate American grape that makes it disease

(01:29:00):
resistant and cold hardy, which iskind of perfect for our restroom slow because
we're still recovering from the late excuseme, the early freeze that we had
in twenty twenty, which wiped outmost of our crop. So a lot
of these farmers and these vineyards wherethey're growing these grapes, we're still recovering
from that, so they are lookingto kind of move into more of these

(01:29:23):
cold hardy and disease resistant varietals.So you're starting to see a lot of
odd names like Shamberson, Petite Pearl, a lot of these. I just
had a white one that I mentionedin the blog from the Storm Cellar last
week at their winemaker dinner called Atasca, which is a white wine again hybridized.

(01:29:43):
Is that an Italian grape? No, it is. It was created
in Minnesota, and it is meant. It is meant for our kind of
climate where we have a shorter growperiod and because we have these wild fluctuations
of swing, you know, temperatureswhen it's a critical time, whether there's
full fruit on the vine that hasit's not ready to be harvest, or
if it's in that really critical stageof bloom where they're they're just starting to

(01:30:09):
but you're just starting to bud out. So butd break is a is a
really delicate time for grapes. Sobecause we can have those late frosts or
torrential downpours of you know, hail, things that can damage these these delicate
flowers. At first you got tokind of pick the varietals that are going

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to work for our v some toughass, great, that's right, and
they gotta we gotta work for it. Here. This wine is pretty.
It's darker than I would I wouldsay a like a more traditional colored rose
is. It's like a bright red. Yeah, it has kind of like
you know, it's like a littlebit of a ruby slipper kind of color.
And any rod, how does itsmell? It is so divine?

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And I say this in the mostcomplimentary way possible, is the only way
I could describe it properly. Itis an uppercut to the chin matched with
a beautiful, fruity smelling salt thatgoes dam and joy. It's like the
best smelling smelling And I'm over heredrinking and I'm like, oh, it
smells, well, that's great somethingbecause it tastes great, but it smells
like it's ruscious. It's a beautifulwine and if you are wanting to try

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that. I can't remember if they'regoing to be at Rose La La La.
I know they're going to be atthe Wine Walk up in Fort Collins
that Blanchart Family Wines is hosting August. No, the this is the one
in June June twenty third, okay, which is a Sunday, and it's
early. They're only having one timeperiod, so I think it's like eleven
to three. Tickets are still stillavailable for both events, but there I

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highly recommend you know, go checkthem out because Centennial sellers outside. If
you are a red wine drinker,definitely try their cap Frank because they got
a really nice cap Fronk too.Summer is made for bubbles, in my
opinion, so what are we lookingat Because people think, you know,
bubbles are a celebratory thing, you'reyou know, a toasting or whatever.
But for me, it's all aboutthe bubble in the summer. What do

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you recommend for people who love bubbles? So I still like to kind of
you know, champagne is going tobe your big celebratory theme. We are
coming. I'm a week from today, Yes, a week from today is
my nephew is getting married. Forthe happy couple, I'm giving them moscato
to ASTI because they like sweet stuff, but they have to toast with something.

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My sister in law and I willbe toasting with champagne. But because
that's not what goes with wedding cake. You definitely if you are having more
of a celebratory environment like a weddingor graduation, you're having it with cake.
You want to go with something sweeter, so am mescato to austi.
If you are just looking to enjoya little bit more brunch, I would

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actually avoid those traditional champagne styled sparklingwines because they are a little too yeasty
and bread like. So I wouldgo more with a prosecco because that blends
really, really nicely with your orangejuices and your cranberry to make a spritzer.
Sure, So if you're looking lookingfor something more along those lines,

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if you're doing some day drinking.Prosecco is a fantastic sparkling wine. If
you are more into red wines thathave a little bit of bubble, you
could certainly start looking at your rosees. Whether it's a pino noir that's been
then turned into a sparkling wine.There's some fantastic ones out there too that
are extremely reasonably priced, especially aboutLambrusco. For just a second, I

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was going to mention Lambrusco. Lambruscowas was the bubbly wine of the seventies,
right, everybody had like that bottleof Lambrusco. But I had one
in a restaurant. There was likeeighteen bucks a glass, and I was
like, you know what, throwcaution to the wind, bring me the
Lambrusco. It was flipping delicious.So Lambrusco is probably one of my favorite
sparkling reds. Oh my god,I think we have. I think that's

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what we had on our cruise,really, And it's funny because I brought
one in when a Rod decided he'snow officially a wine drinker. I brought
in a Lambrusco. I think that'swhen we had in the Italian Rush,
and he thought it was it wasTitanic. It was too bitter, and
I was like, this is Lambrusco. Yeah, it's growing. His palate

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is shifting because our little palettes grow. I would like to say the rose
of Bacco does not. It isnot sweet. It is just very,
very fruit forward. And he andI were actually discussing how can we get
him to start moving away from thesewines that are sweeter because the sweetness is
literally coming from residual sugar. AndI even mentioned to him we need to

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start finding those wines that are morefruit forward that some people will maybe describe
as that sweet. Right, It'snot that it's actually sweet, it's not
sugar. It's just a lot offruit. And I think this rose kind
of falls into that category. It'sa lot of strawberry and red fruit like
that. Let's talk about one lastthing because we got like two minutes left
before we do have the day.You're staying for the day, right,

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sure? I know Chrystal will alwayssay yes, because she's as competitive as
all. Let's talk about mocktails fora second, because mocktails are really having
a moment. There is younger peoplehave now given up alcohol for pot.
They have basically said, so they'relooking for something that makes them feel like
they're participating, but they aren't actuallydrinking. It's kind of having a moment.

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Well, and even at the winemakerdinner that I attended, So the
blog that I linked to is JamieGrows Drinks. Jamie Henderson is an amazing
Her palette is just absolutely sensational.But because she has non alcohol drinkers attending
these winemaker dinners, she spends asmuch time I think literally, you know,
building these mocktails to pair with eachof these courses. As thought that

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goes into the winemaking process itself.And so she uses a lot of just
not just herbs from her own garden, but all of these amazing edible flowers,
which I know grosses you out.But she is bringing in a lot
of the distillates that are not alcoholbased anymore because they are starting to develop
those things. And then you startadding in things like ASHWAGANDHA and CBD to

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kind of give you that mellow relaxationkind of this why some people enjoy having
a cocktail or, you know,after all of the news of the day,
a little glass of wine to relax. So you're starting to see a
lot of these mocktails out there availablejust at your local sprouts during Yeah,
king supers that you can get thatmay be infused with CBD or ashwagandha and

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all of these herbs that are naturallyrelaxing as well. And so I think
there is both the tasty cocktail mocktailand you get the the opposite of the
buzz, you get the kind ofrelaxation. Yeah, thank you for coming
in here and taking us through somethingthat was not Trump related. We will
be back on Monday, and atthat point we might have something else to

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talk about. I don't know,because this story will be around for a
while. This hour undrum. Ohhah hah, you're hilarious. That was
a good one. Anyway, allright, everybody, I want everybody to
go and have a great week weekend. If you're mad about the Trump verdict,
just take a few deep breaths.There's more to come. It'll all

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be okay. We can save thecountry. Does anybody believe what I'm saying
right now, because I'm not sureI do. But we'll figure it out
on Monday. What do we haveon Monday? By the way, I'm
only in for two days next week, not that I'm counting down or anything.
Norway's right around the corner, andNorway travelers, if you're listening right
now, you just got an emailfrom Cruise into our please pay attention to

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that. Monday, we have TimothyEgan. Oh yeah, he's got a
new book on the KKK that isreally good. I started reading it last
night. Debra Flora and Greg Lovezawesome. They're all coming up on Monday.
So in the meantime we got KOASports coming up next. They will
not be talking about the Trump verdict. They will be talking about sports things.
Right after this