06-13-24 FULL SHOW - Krista Kafer Fills in for Mandy

Episode Transcript

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Christ the Kayfer. Yeah, I'mactually makes some computer problems. So I'm
feeling just a tad irritable. Iyou know, what is it with because
this is just a small thing,and then I definitely will go something,
Well, it really grinds your gearstoday, Well, it really grinds my
gears. As passwords, you can'tremember them, you make them super long,

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and then you're off by one digit. They block you out and you
have to change it, and they'relike, no, please do not use
the last you know ten passwords you'veused before. That's too simple. You
didn't include this and this, AndI can just feel my blood boiling.
So is it but not remembering ofpasswords or the needing to change blocked trying
to get into my my my emailbecause the computer is under the impression on

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our work computer. Yeah, okay, I was going to say, if
it was your personal stuff, Ihave a question and a likely solution.
Okay, Android or Apple, it'sa well, I was just trying to
go on the computer. Okay,I'm fine on my phone, which is
an Android. I've always been anAndroid user. It's okay, you want
to read the inferior of the two. It's true. I think it's called
being cheap. This is that istrue. This is Christy Kay for I'm

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sitting in for Mandy Connell and uh, you know a little bit about me.
I'm a Denver Post columnist. AlsoI have a substack. You don't
know what that is. Just puta subsack dot com type in my name
Christy Kay for two k's and you'llpull up. You'll put my Denver Post
column. I publish it usually onThursday or Friday, after it runs in
the Denver Post. You want topay a little bit tst me a little
sugar, you know, but alittle a little graves and a little gravy.

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This way you can have a membership. And I do some other kinds
of writing as well. So alsoI'm on Colorado Inside Out sometimes that airs
on Friday nights at eight o'clock.You want to watch a short and sweet
little review of the week, primarilyColorado stuff, which is kind of nice
and nobody talks over each other.Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's nice

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in that way. It is.It's just a nice little show. This
channel to twelve. They could alsopick it up on Spotify and I think
probably YouTube. If you're out ofthe Denver area. Speaking of out of
the Denver area, gonna give alittle shout out if you haven't been to
Florence, Colorado. That is acute, cute town. Two things you

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want to check out there, DesertHot Springs, which is where I was
yesterday. I can go there forlike this long, leisurely soak in this
beautiful hot spring. And beforehand wewent to one of the best Japanese restaurants
I've ever been. Who'd have thoughtyou could get you could get really top
notch sushi in Florence, Colorado,but it's true. Yeah, it's called

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Eto Japanese Steakhouse and Sushi and Thairestaurant. The menu is so long you
have to order an appetizer just toget through it. And I was very
impressed that my friend had the sushi. I had like a ramen dish and
it was it was really heavenly.It was really really top notch food.
And right there in Henderson, Colorado, cute little three thousand people, just

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outside of Canyon City, which isa little bit bigger, but yeah,
it was actually the first place todiscover oil west of the Mississippi, which
is kind of neat and the town. The reason that it if you look
at the buildings, if you lookat buildings and is just like I'm diving
into Colorado history. And some peopleare like, oh, I don't care.

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But a lot of things went downhillright after I think it was eighteen
ninety two, and that's because wewere we had a lot of silver coming
out of this state. The federalgovernment said no, we're not going to
do this. This silver exchange thingthat they were doing was currency. The
minute that went over, Denver becamea ghost town. Places like silver Plumes,

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Silverton, all the big silver producersreally had a tough time, and
Florence was spared some of that becauseLawrence was not a silver town. It
was an oil town. It wasan oil town before a lot of other
folks or oil towns. So uh, yeah, I'm not gonna go too
heavy on history. Yeah. Ilove it when somebody sends me an insult

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and and then miss uh misspells myname. Yeah, don't let the doors
shut on the uh the way outuh their pal And do you know,
no matter how nasty you want tobe, no matter how many you know,
how many things you want to callme, uh, you gotta just,
you know, just spell my nameright. That's all I ask.

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It would help if you would spelllike to swear words correctly too, nothing
like you're a looser as opposed toyou're a loser right L y O you
R l O S S E RI kid you not? Uh I have
gotten text like that before. Idon't know. I think there only ought
to be an IQ test in orderto either use the text line or to

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use Twitter just saying let's see herevisiting the prisons. No, I wasn't
down there visiting the prisons. AlthoughI have to admit our prison system does
produce a lot of really cool stuff. My dad used to collect some of
the really neat saddles, bridles andother things that came out. They came
out early out of our prison system. But they trained horses, they trained

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dogs, They do agricultural stuff,produce grapes for wine. Just they do
a lot of really cool stuff withour prison systems so that people can exit
that system with some meaningful skills andto have some work that they have done,
because work is part of human dignity. Anyway, I haven't even gotten
to our topics yet. So here'sour topics. Do T shirts make you

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feel unsafe? Dun dun, duhat Leah Thomas like Cia, it's actually
Leah Leah Thomas. That's that guythat won all those swimming awards while competing
against women. He loses his case. He's not going to be able to
be in the Olympics to compete againstwomen. There. Dive into that a

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little bit in a second. Also, veal versus venison. I gotta admit
veal is better. And I'm notthe only one that thinks that there has
been yet another wolf attack on cattlesince their reintroduction back in December, and
I you know, I think they'vediscovered there wasn't a lot of predation in
the early months. I don't knowif they were going going for the venison

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the first couple of months, butcome April, they have discovered that veal
is better than venison. And Ilike venison. I will be the first
to admit I do like venison,but veal is better. It's a little
it's a little more tender. AndI know what you're thinking, You're like,
she's so cold hearted. She eatsfel. I don't eat veel very

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often, but I will say this. If you drink milk, you are
part of the whole veal thing.And it's kind of a said. You
know, you may want to stopdrinking milk, or you can stop judging
people who eat veal one or theother. Because on dairy farms, what
do you think they do with themale calves. It's not like you need
a lot of bulls. You don'tneed a lot of bulls. You need

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a lot of calves. So femalecalve, you know, calves are put
back into the herd, and malecalves you gotta do something with them and
they end up becoming feel it iswhat it is. If you don't like
it, stop drinking milk, oryou know, get rid of cream,
go to that. You know,it is the most The biggest abomination is
that dairy free creamer. I can'tit only is a taste wretched, but

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it is an abomination. It's likefat free fat. Yeah, it's no
buyoh but yeah, I think ifyou if you really have a problem with
it, there are milk substitutes.You know, when they milk those little
tiny almonds for almonds milk. I'mkidding. So yeah, veal versus venison.
I've made my choice. I thinkfeels a little bit better, and

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so the wolves and they made thatchoice yet again. This week, Rubik's
Cube turns fifty. I have yetto figure one of those things out Have
you ever figured one of those thingsout here? Yeah? I don't get
it. I can do those puzzleswhere you have the jumble of metal things
and you have to unlink them like, I'm good with that. Now the
robots can do it, so it'sfine. Yeah. I mean, I
guess if I have my own personalrobot, I could just hand in the

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Rubik's Cube. Have you ever seenit where somebody that they have these like
contests where somebody will they get liketen seconds to look over the mixed up
cube and then they time them forhow fast they can solve it, and
then people will do it in likefifteen seconds. So it's a rare skill.
Yes, it's not a skill Ihave. But Rubik's Cube turns fifty.
So if you weren't feeling particularly oldand you had an original Ruby's Cube,

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I'm I'm guessing you might be feelinga little old. Now I'm feeling
a little old. Hickelooper says theresults of legalized marijuana have been just super.
We'll go into whether or not they'vebeen super or not so super.
Also, how much do you thinkDenver has made in bag fees? If
you're thinking in the thousands, youwant to go a little higher. It's

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a little higher. It's not inthe billions, it's not in the trillions.
If that gives you a sense ofwhere that's out. How much money
has Denver made in plastic bag fees. It's been a little bit of a
windfall. Let's put it that way. North Carolina, not North Carolina,
North Dakota has decided their legislature islike, you know what, there is
a point in which somebody is tooold to be running for Congress. So

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they actually put an age limit,not not a floor, but a ceiling.
If you are eighty one, itcan't run age discrimination. I don't
know. I don't know. I'veknown some really hip happen in super super
sharp eighty year olds a friend,local guy who's a lawyer and his wife

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who are just the sharpest people,super super sharp. But I also know
some eighty year old already something yearolds. But I don't know, I
don't know them personally, but theymight be running for president. And they
might just be a little too pasttheir prime. What can I say?
So let's get, you know,hit something a little bit substantive and quite

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going off on these side trails.But I uh, how sensitive are you?
How how scared are you of apparel? And I asked this because we
have a new court decision in theMiddlebrough student Liam Morrison, He's the kid

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that wrote he read a he wrote, he wrote, he wore like it's
not even Friday. My tongue tied. This kid wore a shirt to his
junior Highe said there are only twogenders, which I would argue is a
scientific fact. I realize there arepeople out there that believe that there are

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lots of genders, lots of sexes. You could be male, females,
someone somewhere in between. You couldcheck the other box. Maybe you're a
man and you want to become awoman, or your woman that can become
a man. I reject all ofthat. I don't actually even use the
term trans because I don't think thata man can become a woman or a
woman can become a man. AndI've met people who men who live as

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women and women who live as men, And I don't treat them any different.
They still get the best of whatI have to offer that day.
But I don't believe that they aremen if they are women, or vice
versa. So this kid comes inand he's wearing the shirt, and the
shirt says you either take it offor you have to go home. I
think he ended up going home.He ends up coming back with a shirt

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some days later that says there arecensored genders, which I thought, that's
kind of cheeky. I love it. I absolutely love it. I love
it when people push back against stupidrules. Well, the reason that the
school did this is that they believethat the shirt might make some students feel
unsafe. I thought, shirt justmakes me just feel unsafe. And I

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will say this, you know,in the middle of a dark alley,
some starts up at chainsaw, Imight feel a little unsafe, Like I
might. I'm in bed at nightand I hear footsteps walking towards my bedroom
door. Mike, I could feela little unsafe. I can feel a

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little unsafe. Let's see, I'myou know, out of the country,
and two thieves pick me up ina cab, take me to a remote
space, threaten me, and makeme take money off my credit card and
give to them. That sounds personal. That did happen to me, and
yes it was. It was terrifying. Oh there's a little chainsaw there.
So I'm not saying that there aren'tthings in life that that could make you

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feel a little unsafe. You know, maybe you're driving your jeep in the
mountains and you're you're right up againstthat cliff dropped, I could feel a
little unsafe. So there are timesin life where you feel a little unsafe.
But I have never and this goesway back to when I was a
kid felt unsafe because of a Tshirt that someone was Somebody could be wearing

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a T shirt that says I hateChrista Kaefer, and for all I know,
somebody is wearing that shirt, andthat shirt would not make me feel
safe unsafe at all. Now,if that person said I intend to kill
Christa Kaefer tonight at seven o'clock,maybe I would feel just a tad unsafe
about that shirt. That strikes mea little bit as an actionable death thread.

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But generally speaking, when people wearT shirts, I don't feel unsafe.
And here's the thing. By law, under the First Amendment, if
you allow kids to wear various Tshirts because some schools have uniforms and you
can't wear T shirts that say things. But if you allow it, you

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have to allow a lot of differentthings. Huh, this is gotten to
get to your text. Let mejust text it something kind of funny and
I but I've never felt an unsafeabout a T shirt. And if you
allow kids to wear shirts, youhave to show wide discretion, a wide
allowance actually, and allow kids towear all kinds of shirts. You can't

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just be like, oh, youhave a cross on your shirt and you
have a atheist's rock on your shirt. The cross shirt has to go.
Like if you allow shirts that havereligious slogans, you got to allow both.
Right, I don't see if there'sanything wrong with there are two genders.
If you wanted to wear a shirtthat said there are three genders,

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I think that would be okay too, or five genders or twenty five genders
or fifty seven genders, whatever youbelieve. That shirt isn't of itself a
scary thing. So it's absurd thatthe school had to say about it.
Absolutely absurd, And so I'm sorrythat the kid didn't get to wear it.
And I'm also sorry that there's nowbeen a federal appeals court that has

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said the school did right. Idon't think the school did right. I
don't think that that shirt was disruptiveany more than I would think that somebody
wearing a T shirt that said thereare many genders. That's not disruptive either.
And this particular school does a wholelot of rainbow flag stuff, and
nobody was like, you know,maybe some of the religious religious students at

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this school might feel a little unsafe. Nobody said that we're fine with the
rainbow flags. But a kid thatpushes back just the tiny bit, now
we're all feeling a little unsafe.So I hope I hope they continue this
case. I hope it goes upto the Supreme Court, which tends to
be pretty darn, pretty darn FirstAmendment focused. So this person says,
aren't you the columnist for the Postbecause John Caldera got fired for saying there

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are only two genders? No,because I have actually written on now three
occasions saying that there are only twogenders. Here's what really happened. John
and I were both columnists at theDenver Post at the same time. I
had written a column six months beforethat said they were only two genders,
But it was it was a columnthat said it nicely so that people have

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sometimes gender confusion. There's a lotof pain around that, and that even
though we as a society can't compromisewomen's sports or women's safe spaces, we
should still show empathy for those thathave confusion, even though we have to
allow girls and women to compete withother biological women without men there. And

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I wrote that column, and thensome six months later, John writes a
similar column, only he's done.I should we say a little less delicate
about it. When taken to taskfor being a little less delicate and being
asked to, you know, justsoften the column a little bit, he
said, no, it was exceptionallyrude to the editor. Said a word

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that I can't say over the air, although it's kind of the equivalent of
cat, if you know what Imean. He called her that, and
she's like, I'm done. I'mdone with your Antisia then went on radio
and said he was fired for sayingtwo genders there were only two genders,
when I had said the same thingsix months before, and not only had

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I said the same thing, sixmonths before the big trans lobbyist went after
me and tried to get a retraction. And guess who stood up for me.
My editor, Megan Schrader stood upfor me and stands up for me
all the time. When the leftcomes at me and the right sometimes and
says you need to pull that column, she says no. So I'm happy

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to correct the record on behalf ofJohn Caldera. That isn't to say he
isn't a friend of mine. He'sa really fun guy. Well that it's
a very funny text coming in.This is Christy Kafer. We'll catch your
text on the back side of thisbreak. This is Christa Kayfer sitting in
for awesome Mandy Connell, and you'relistening to eight fifty KOA. And I
read this article about how they madethis young man take off a shirt that

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said there are two genders. Itwas because they just they felt that someone
would feel safe. And I thoughtand went in my head, was no,
not to t shit, No,not a shrubbery. And then I
was forced to watch a little MontyPython. And if you're you know,
if you're a money python, youknow, these things just come into your

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head and they never leave. Theynever leave. So a couple of interesting
texts coming in on this subject andothers. Right, people feel my frustration
with passwords. I did end upgetting into my account and I didn't even
actually use the f worts. SoI'm kind of proud of myself. I
can confirm I'm kind of proud ofmyself. I'm really working on that because

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of their I got in what wasa secret we all we were all pretty
invested. Now, Yeah, Ihad to go through. I started a
new Google profile in order to accessmy hotal what you had to start a
whole new account. Yeah, becauseevery time I would try to go in
through Mandy's they wanted her thing technology. And I'm feeling a little better and
hopefully I didn't miss hers up toomuch because she'll find out when she gets

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better. She broke everything, andI know blame now. So it's fine.
It's all broken now. Osberton says, it's hard to believe the Denver
Post is still around. Surely theycan't pay you. Actually, you know
they're doing okay, They're doing okay, Last man standing, Last paper standing.
There are some quality online news sources. I think the Sun does a
good job. Denver Gazette does agood job. There's some other places out

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there producing some good news. Youwant to get a good aggregator and some
extra stuff. Got a Complete Colorado. They've got page two. Some original
journalism there, but otherwise they're anaggregator. They pull in different things of
interest from different places. It's aquality site. Otherwise a lot of good
news. There's also coloradopolitics dot com, a lot of good places. But

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the only place you can still geta physical paper is the Denver Post.
So proud to be a part ofthem, even though they are to the
left of me. Very strange tobe a conservative colonists at a love leaning
paper. But it's just it's agood paper, good people. And yeah,
honestly, I would pridge into thechoir. It's fine, but I'd

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rather be out there trying to persuadepeople who don't necessarily have my views.
I think it's more interesting. Let'ssee Heinz fifty seven, Bask and Robin's
thirty one Flavors Per says, theylove my voice. They yeah, it'll
be there's all kinds, there's allthese different options people. But when it

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comes to genders and sex, Ithink gender and sex are the same thing.
Not everybody agrees, and people agreethat. You know, some people
will say, well, you've gotmale and female, but then you could
choose your own gender. Mmm,I'm going to go with there the same
thing. And science tells us thatthere are only two sexes really when it
comes to well, when it comesto mammals and birds, you get one,

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you get it at conception, andyou carry it through to death.
There are some exceptions there. There'sa small group of people out there that
when they were in utero things didn'tdevelop, called androgen insensitivity disorder, and
and you know they're they're born.They may be born with a male chromosomes,
but but look and feel female,and it is what it is.

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These things happen. But for thevast majority of people out there, people
just like every other mammal, tosexes male or female. Now, I
say, now, it's not likeevery living creature. Right, If you
are a fish, if you area clownfish, and I know there's a
lot of clownfish out there listening.If you're a clownfish, there is a
possibility that during your lifetime you maychange sexes. So it does happen in

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the animal world. But not amongmammals, not among birds. It's it's
kind of a it's kind of afish thing, to be honest, I
think it possibly some other fish,other lower life forms can can pull that
off. And yeah, it iswhat it is. But we're talking mammals,
we're talking to sexes. Doesn't meanwe have to be mean about it,
doesn't mean we have to be nastyabout it. Doesn't mean that we

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can't have some empathy for people whodon't feel connected to their own body.
I remember when I was young,I hated the look of my own face.
I'm struggling with that, and I'mreally glad my parents didn't say so
you think you're ugly, you're fourteenyears old. Let's you know, let's
get a doctor. Let's see whatwe can do. New nose job,

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we can do some other stuff.Let's just change up your face. That'll
make you feel better. I canguarantee that the underlying issues would have remained.
So I do agree with these proposalsthat would prevent people from giving gender
blocking medicines that have bad side effects, or doing any kind of surgery too.
You get to eighteen, you're eighteen, you're an adult. You decide

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you want to live as the oppositesex. That's fine. It doesn't It
still doesn't change my rights. Itdoesn't mean that I get it. I'm
going to be nasty. You wantto look like a woman, act like
a woman, a woman, youwant to look at act like a man,
that's fine. I still get togo to the bathroom or the locker
room with other biological women. Istill get to compete with other biological women,

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and I think it's all gonna workout. I will say this,
Leah Thomas, this is that guythat played on a women's team and he's
a I hate to say, he'san intact male. So he's not only
a male. He's still got hisown equipment. I'm not talking about swimming
equipment here. And he beats allthese women. You see these pictures.

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He's like two feet taller than theother women on his team. So he's
the one that's getting all the awards. Well, finally, some people stood
up on behalf of women, andthis would be the aquatics. There's an
aquatic sports union that has said,you know, you can't, you can't

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participate with women on the Olympics.Leah, you can't do it, and
They did a very nice thing.They created an open category for people like
him and others who would like tocompete with the opposite sex for whatever reason.
They can still compete, but theyare not allowed to out compete other

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women, real women. That isso I you know, cheers, cheers
to the aquatic sports, cheers tothem from making the right choice. And
I hope this Middleborough student Liam Morrison, who s he's hitted for high school.
I just hope when it gets there, if he wants to wear that

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T shirt, you'll have that chanceif they allow T shirts. And this
is not an inherently offensive T shirt. It's not like he's wearing a T
shirt with you know, something violenton it, or something sexual or a
swear word. This is a statementof biology. You can disagree with it.
I would say to those if theywere students who felt unsafe, I

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would say, go have a shirtprinted up. It's not that hard and
have it printed up, saying thereare multiple tenders and wear that to school.
It's fine. But the idea thatwe would infantilize these kids and say,
well, just they feel unsafe chainsawsin the dark alley, that's unsafe.
Suirt you disagree with It's not unsafe. It's not unsafe at all.

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And I see that there are peopleout there that rather than have a debate,
a civilized debate, to say,you don't here's the science around sex
in terms of there being only twosexes. Let's talk about what that looks
like in public policy. How dowe actually help people who have some gender

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confusion? Can we get them thecounseling they need. How do we not
do any intervention that we that theywould later deeply regret, you know,
because those puberty blockers do have prettybad side effects, and we know that
most kids will grow out of itat the time they're young adults. They

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don't need to be stuck with whatthose drugs did to them when they change
their mind. And I also thinkthat, you know, how do we
help individuals who don't belong they don'tfeel they belong to still be able to
participate. In the case of LeahThomas, I am glad for him that

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there is an open category for swimmingthat men and women and other people who
believe they're part of other genders canstill they can still participate, still swim,
still do stuff, but they don'thave to outcompete biological women. I
think it's only fair getting some interestingtexts coming in will hit those on the

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back side of this break. Thisis Christa Kaefer. We're sitting in where
now I'm going to call myself theyI am sitting for Mandy Connell and you're
listening to a fifty koa. WhatI'm saying is when they look at kids
who have gender confusion, it's justa very small subset of kids, and
they track those kids. What theyfind out is that by the time they're

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adults, most of them have acceptedtheir bodies and are no longer confused and
realized that they are male or arefemale and are fine with it. A
subset of those people will continue toshow that gender confusion, and some of
them may want to live as theopposite sex. You can there are remember

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where I found that study. Anyway, there's a study out there that shows
that you could take my word forit, or I guess you can.
You cannot because I could say,let's see Ralph and black Fores says Leah
is a fraud who stole titles fromRiley Gaines. He's a vile sec of
excrement. That's not nice. Buthe says, I'm surprised the Olympic people
showed some sense. He really did. He denied Riley Gaines and others the

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titles that they should have had.He is a male. He has the
advantages of being male, and mendo have an advantage when it comes to
musculature, bone structure. It's notyou know, sex is not simply a
question of your plumbing. Sex issomething that actually affects all parts of the
body. Testosterone, we both haveit, males and females. Men have

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a lot more testosterone, and thatdefinitely affects how we grow, what happens
during puberty, what happens throughout life. It is what it is. And
I know we live in a worldwhere we can ah, you can be
anything you want. Maybe you canlook like what you want, but you
can't actually be that. Give youan example. I'm not ashamed to say

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that I use a little botox outfor about ten years, and part of
it is because I do television andI don't let the wrinkles on my forehead.
It's just not my thing. Ilike to look younger than I am,
but I cannot make myself younger thanI am, so I may want
to look ten years younger. Itwould be lying if I walked up to
someone and said I was ten yearsyounger. I would be lying if I

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went on I don't know, matchdot com or some age related dating site
and lied and said I was younger. You don't get to do that.
You are who you are now.You can choose to modify that if you
want. Men want to live aswomen or women want to live as men,
that's fine. But I don't haveto give up my rights so that

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they feel accepted and accepted in theirchoices. I can be nice, and
I should be nice, because Ifeel like everyone deserves civility. But in
the end, I don't want tobe in a locker room turn around to
be like WHOA, yeah, likegoing on there. I don't want that.
I don't need that, and Iespecially I don't think that young girls
need that in a junior high orhigh school locker room. And I don't

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think that they need to be competingwith boys. In fact, it can
be dangerous, particularly in a contactsport where a man or a boy is
playing boys playing against girls or menor playing against again and stuff against women,
men playing against women, and there'scontact women can get hurt. Men

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simply are stronger. Not in everycase. You can meet a really wimpy
soft man and a very strong woman, but pound for pound, men are
typically stronger. So let's just recognizethat. It's the fact I was reading
this reading the article about Leah Thomasand is cracking me up because the journalist
kept referring to him as her andshe, and I'm like, you know,

(30:29):
we know he's an intact male,and you're saying she and her.
Okay, you know you've hit thatpoint in getting old where you're like,
Okay, reality has made some changes. Ess Actually, reality has stayed the
same. Society has made some changes, and I'm getting off the changes train
right here. I'm gonna go aheadand go with basic biology. You guys,

(30:52):
carry on, keep on down theroad. And yeah, I guess
this person's demanding that I look upthe study for them. I believe I
pulled it out of the Wall StreetJournal, if that helps. But I'm
gonna go ahead and let you dothe searching because I'm a little busier.
I'm at work. But yeah,try gender studies Wall Street Journal. Use

(31:14):
your Google pop it up that way. You're the one that's got the computer
in front of you. I'm notdoing your work. Oh, we're coming
up at the end of this endof this hour. We get back.
Let's let's move on. Let's moveon to We've got Hickenlooper, John hick
and Looper saying that that Colorado's experimentwith cannabis has been overwhelmingly positive. Now

(31:41):
do I think it was the endof the world? No, overwhelmingly positive?
Not so much. We'll unpack thatwhen we get back. This is
Christa Kaeferm sitting in a Mandy Connell. You're listening to eight fifty KOA.
I'm normally a quiet influencer. Yeah, I've done for postcommists. No,
I do not have a fashion YouTubechannel. Weh not that fashionable. I'm

(32:06):
okay. I do have a differentpost column. You can catch that column
for free, like maybe five daysafter I publish in the post. You
could catch it my substack. Justgo to substack dot com. Punch in
Christa Kaefer You could become a freesubscriber, but you know, a little
sugar in my way, totally likeit if you became a paid subscriber,
and then you can get some otherstuff as well. Yeah, not fashion

(32:29):
tips. But you know some youknow, like some bigger essays. I
know, if you're nerdy like me, you like to read stuff like that.
What can I say? Also,I can follow me yet at Christa
Kaefer and I haven't you know,I lost all my trolls, Like I
used to have people like say nastythings to me, but I never responded
to them, so they went away. So you know, I'm looking for,

(32:50):
you know, maybe some new peopleon Twitter, but prefer the nice
kind. So I get called nastythings by the left and the right.
I think that sort of distinguishes me. A lot of people on air only
get hate from one direction. Iget it from both. And what I
did when the one day I waslike, this is all pretty interest.

(33:10):
I've been called a fascist by bothsides. I've been called all these different
things. And my other thing withthe whole fascism thing is the people who
use it generally don't know it's historicalbackground. So I'm like, no,
just call me Il Ducci. They'relike what I'm like, you do realize
that fascism originates with Mussolini in thenineteen twenties in Italy. It's not just

(33:32):
a thing you call people. Youdon't like you can go with a hole
for that. But if you're goingto use the word fascist, just be
like a tiny bit of wear thatit has a historical context. Maybe La
Ducca. I don't know, butI had a bunch of the things that
people call me because I think it'sfunny. And I hadn't put on a

(33:52):
shirt. Now it's a shirt Ionly wear around the house, kind of
like a gym shirt or you know, maybe it's a gardening shirt. But
yeah, I had a bunch ofthe I think if people call me,
I put him on a shirt.So, yeah, you gotta have fun.
You gotta have a little fun becauseI have never tweeted something nasty to
someone. It's kind of it's kindof a mystery, like why would you

(34:13):
do that? But anyway, we'reall having a lot of fun and talking.
Last time, a little bit aboutLeah Thomas. He's a man that
was competing as a woman in collegeand out competed some women naturally because he
has a much stronger body. Andthis person texted, and I'm not going
to belabor this. If you wantto catch the podcast, you can listen

(34:35):
to it. But this person said, please verify if you can. I
heard that Leah was recently ruled noteligible do the fact that he transitioned after
puberty, and that is correct.So the Aquatics Association that has said,
hey, if you want to competeagainst women in World Championships or the Olympics,
you can't do that. There isone caveat to that. And they

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also created in an open category,which I think is nice. You know,
there are people out there that forwhatever reason, want to compete as
the opposite sex something they feel morecomfortable doing, and that's fine, but
they don't have to outcompete women.They can compete in this open category,
which I think is gracious. It'sthe way to go. But you can't

(35:20):
have women losing to men. That'snot fair. Reason that we have women's
sports is that we get that inmany areas, men are stronger. It
is what it is. Stronger bones, stronger, musculature, just stronger.
And there are things that you cancompete in that don't need to be divided
by sex. So in high schoolI lettered in speech and debate. Got

(35:45):
a little you know, see forColumbine and it's got a little thing on
there speech and debate. I alsowant a bunch of trophies in chess in
both cases, I know how fullon nerdy is that, but I got
the awards. I won those awards. I also I also did a little
bit in bowling in junior high.Yeah, still have those things for my

(36:07):
bowling shirt. But in both casesI competed against males. And why is
that? Because in speech and debateyou can compete on equal footing males and
females. Same goes for chess.It's fine. I was the only girl
on the team of nerds. Ifwe were all nerds, I was the
only girl nerd and I got acouple of you know rewards awards for that.

(36:29):
So I'm not saying that there aren'tplaces where men and women can compete.
Uh, and there are women thatdo break into male dominant areas.
I'm thinking of Danica the driver,the you know car driver, that occasionally
there's a woman who can hit agolf ball hard enough that she can compete

(36:49):
with men and golfing. It doeshappen, but it's pretty rare. And
for that, we have separate sportsfor women and men. It's only fair
if we allow women, We allowwomen to compete with men in men's sports.
You know, I don't know thatthat makes as much of a difference,
although I can think of one optionwhere it is on the other side

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of men compete against women, womendon't win, women lose, and you
have any racing of women's sports,any racing of women from sports, and
yeah, it's just not fair.Now, I will say that I have
a little bit of trouble with women, young women, high school women competing

(37:29):
against boys in wrestling. Some ofthese women do very well, But I
think in that here there's a flipside. It isn't that men or boys
are out competing because they're stronger.In this case, we have women competing
in a highly physical contact sport that'sgoing to make some men feel very some
young men boys feel very very uncomfortableand compromise their ability to play that sport.

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If you're worried that, I don'tknow, how do I want to
put this. Uh, the therocket countdown might start sometime during the wrestling
match. You might not come,you might not you, maybe your your

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thoughts may be elsewhere while you're wrestling, and it may compromise your ability to
pin the woman. To pin thisyoung woman down. I'm not saying it
happens every time. I think peoplecan really get into that competition mode where
they're not thinking about other things.But it's possible. It's possible that a
man, a young man, couldfeel uncomfortable pinning a young woman and worried

(38:39):
about things not going the way hehad planned, and that's going to compromise
his ability to win. So Ithink it can go the other way,
not often, and uh yeah,So I'm glad that the this Aquatic Sports
Association has said, Hey, ifyou're a man and you want to compete
as a woman, you can doso in the open category. That's fine.

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I think that is a fair solution, and I'm hoping here in Colorado,
we've got a couple of ballot measuremeasures that are coming up, one
of them really great idea that woulddo basically the same thing in this state.
If you're a boy, you competewith boys. If you're a girl,
you compete with girls. If you'rea boy, you compete with boys.
If you're a girl, you justcompete with girls. And then you

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could have an open category, oryou can open the male categories to allow
women and boys that want to bewomen. And I think it all works
out for for everybody. So ohthis is sweet. Uh, somebody says,
h where is here? Paula Reidis now on a school board.
She was my speech in debate debatecoach. She is a wonderful human being.

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She is on the board of thejeff Co school Board and just just
to the left of me. Yeah, I know he was the il duce
what somebody's like, But you know, Benedito MUSLINI was il dch, not
la ducha. I made. Iwas saying, when p people call me
il duce because I'm a woman,they might want to say la ducca.

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Just saying, really, I don'tknow, just having somebody not with a
lot of experience in the Italian language, I'm just saying, if you're going
to call me a fascist, maybego with la ducca. I'm just saying,
show like a tiny bit of understandingof the history behind the word fascism
before you go around calling everybody afascist. But yes, the man himself

(40:25):
was ill duce because it's that's themale conjugation of that particular word. So
yeah, I don't know if PaulaReid is tuning in. No, she
was an excellent speech and debate coach. I had three teachers that were fantastic
at Columbine High School, and Imet my friend Marty Lenz, who's here
in the morning, would concur.I don't know if he had any of

(40:49):
these people, but Paula Reid waswonderful, she had speech in debate.
Susan Peters was wonderful, she wasmy she was on newspaper, and Paula
Reid switching debate. And then CarolSamson was my ap English teacher. And
I have some contact or have hadsome contact with two of them, and
I regularly see Carol Samson, whois truly, truly the best and has

(41:13):
been an inspiration to me early myentire life. So yeah, anyway,
moving on, we're gonna pop outof this particular particular subject and head in
a slightly different direction before we gettired of it, get a long show.
Let's go with Hickenlooper. And Idon't have that much problem with with

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John Hickenlooper. I think he's anice man. I think he was a
good mayor and a good governor.I didn't vote for him. I am
a Republican. I voted for hisopponents, and I would prefer that his
opponents in particular Corey Gardner. Iwish Corey Gardner was still my representative in
the US Congress, but or sorry, in the US Senate. I guess

(42:00):
it's still Congress in the US Senate. I don't think he's a bad guy,
all things being equal, though Iwould much, much much prefer a
Republican because Franklin Republican ideas are bettergenerally speaking, not always, but most
often my opinion. And he saidrecently that cannabis, the you know,

(42:24):
legalized cannabis here in the state,and the state was one of the first
states to legalize it, that theresults have been quote unquote overwhelmingly positive.
Now, I don't think it's beena train wreck. I don't think it's
been the end of the world.I don't think it's been the worst thing
ever. I kind of agree thatit should not be a Schedule one drug

(42:44):
along with heroin, cocaine, andothers. I think some of the positive
things that have come out of thelegalization of marijuana have been renewed medical studies
into the compounds of CBD, whichis the non high component, and even
teach see and how that might beuseful for certain medical conditions. Seizures and

(43:05):
others. We know that even thoughopium right mostly just use it used often
for bad things, but morphine isalso used for good things. Morphine is
good. It's a good pain reliever. I mean, it is what it
is. Same goes with you know, I think about oxy. I've had
five orthopedic surgeries in my life,a couple of them involving a bone saw,

(43:28):
and I couldn't have gotten through thatwithout oxy. So I know everybody's
like down on oxy. If youuse it appropriately right after surgery, it's
a good thing. You just can'tkeep using it, and you certainly shouldn't
do it recreationally. You get addicted. Then if you can't get anymore,
then you end up doing street drugs. It's a really bad thing. But

(43:49):
if you use it appropriately, Imean, if you're using a bone saw
on me, I'm not doing Thailandall bone saw. I want oxy.
It is what it is, andit's helped a lot of people with pain.
But like other things, that canbe abused. So these these plants,
these very powerful plants, in thecase of poppies, opium poppies,

(44:12):
or in the case of I don'tknow, socks, they actually come from
opiumers come from something else. Ishould look that up. But cannabis could
have medical applications, and I thinkthat's fair. Where I see this as
being problematic, and why vehemently disagreewith Senator Hickenlooper is it has not been

(44:35):
overwhelmingly positive. It has a negative, very negative side. And if you
have a chance to read the DenverGazette, high quality news site, they've
got a really good editorial on this, taking him to task for the words
overwhelmingly positive. A couple of factsthat pop up in that editorial are the
fact that crime has been up sincelegalization, up twenty one point six percent.

(45:02):
Let's see, and that's as comparedtwenty one Sorry, twenty one is
not up twenty one percent, it'stwenty percent. Twenty one percent, Yeah,
it's sorry, I'm tripping over myself. Twenty one percent higher when compared
to eight surrounding states. So ifwe're looking at Oklahoma, we're looking at
New Mexico, we're looking at someof these other places, some of them

(45:25):
have embraced marijuana, but over thatstretch of time, we being the first,
we have seen crime escalate more.Here causation maybe just correlation, but
it's kind of a funny coincidence.Traffic fatality is up fifty seven percent,
as it caused it, I don'tknow, but there's certainly probably a correlation

(45:47):
there. Suicide up twenty three percent. Suicide among young people is doubled.
Do I see a Do I seea correlation there? I do? Is
there possibly a causation that this isactually causing these tragedies? The available,

(46:07):
the ready available availability of a drugat very high potency rates maybe causing this
When I was young, And I'vesaid this before in the air, I
don't have a problem saying it again. I did Inhale. Unlike Bill Clinton
and the stuff we smoked back innineteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty nine,

(46:29):
nineteen ninety before, I kind ofwas done that ditchweed had very little THC
in it. It was what itwas. You know, you got high,
you gotten the refrigerator and ate everythingin there. You watched Pink Floyd's
of the Wall, wrote some badpoetry, and there you go. That

(46:50):
was that. And I do knowpeople who kind of got hooked on it
and now have other problems, Butit wasn't the high potency stuff that we
have now can really really a teenager'smind. And my big thing is that
if you wanted to get high,you could. Everybody I knew back in
the early or late eighties, earlynineties, everybody was like one step away

(47:10):
from a dealer or two steps away. You've heard of seven is it the
seven steps at Kevin Bacon. Itwas like that with dealers. Everyone knew
someone or they knew someone who knewsomeone who could get the stuff for you.
So it wasn't like there was thislike you couldn't get it, and
it wasn't like cops were out likearresting everyone for having like a tiny bit
of marijuana. I remember a cabdriver handed me a joint once. I

(47:35):
mean, it's there was no problemwith availability. Now that it's become this
big business, big commercial business,where there is a motivation to sell,
to get people to take the stuff, to take more of it, I
think it's problematic. And I certainlydisagree with Hickenlooper John Hickenlooper who said the
results have been overwhelmingly positive. Ithas not been overwhelming positive. It's been

(48:00):
mixed. You know, it's broughtin some revenue to communities. Okay,
fine, but who's putting together thatwho's producing that revenue. It's kind of
like lotto and lottery. Do youthink people who are super successful and they've
got money and they've got a career, do you think they're out there buying

(48:20):
lotto tickets and lottery tickets? Sure, they might want to buy some for
family members for Christmas. My sisteralways buys a couple for each of us
as a fun thing. But doyou think they are desperately set just spending
that last dollar. No, thepeople who are buying that stuff are people
who can barely afford it. Youknow, same goes for gambling. I

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mean, yeah, people might havefun gambling here and there. I don't
mind a hand a Texas holding onoccasion, But the people who are sitting
there desperately in front of the slotmachine, it's uh, it's not millionaires
and billionaires. And I think thesame thing goes for the revenue that we've
generated from mayor Wanna. It's notthe occasional user. It's not the rich

(49:04):
ski guy that breezes in here andwants to have a particularly fun weekend on
the slopes with a couple of edibles. It's a lot of sort of desperate
and sad people who were smoking beforeand are now smoking a lot more.
Again, I don't think the worldis ending. I don't think that it's
cataclysmic. I do think that therehave been I think there's been collateral damage.

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I've met people whose kids have killedthemselves. It's serious. It is
serious. So sorry, Hick,it has not been overwhelmingly positive. I
am seeing, I'm seeing, youknow, And for a while there it's
gotten a little bit better. Fora while, I couldn't even you know,
I rental house two doors down,smoking that stuff, having it to

(49:49):
smell it, going to you know, go to Red Rocks, just go
for a nice concert. You comehome, your eyes are beat red.
Used to be that. Yeah,you could smell it here and there.
But everybody who's keeping it on thedown low, you know, like they
put the doobie in a little youput it in a little cup in your
hands, like I've done it,Okay, I have, But thirty years
ago, that's how you did it. You kept it on the down low.
You didn't fire up a giant bluntand blow it in your in your

(50:12):
neighbor's face. Now you can't breathethere, and you know, the cigarette
smoker that pulls out a cigarette andI don't smoke, but that person's going
to get dirty looks. And thesame guy that pulls out a giant a
giant joint that stinks, and thatsmoke just hovers and lingers. That person
they're not even in the smoking section. Like there's some of the rudest people

(50:37):
I've ever met. That's not everypot smoker, but in general, I'm
sorry, Senator Hickenlooper. I amso sorry that I'm sorry that you're wrong.
The results have been mixed, andI think the jury is still a
little bit out. I don't wedon't know what the long term impacts are.
We do you know this stuff isbad for your lungs. You know

(51:00):
that this stuff is bad for yourbrains if you're young. I don't think
it's been a success. I thinkit best it's been a draw. And
yeah, I'll just say it whenwe get back. Let's I can hit
a couple of your comments on this. This person is like, you're not
talking about alcohol. I'm not foralcoholism either. I'm thinking that getting high

(51:21):
or getting drunk generally generally bad.I'm pretty comfortable saying that this is christa
Kaefer and sitting in for Mandy Connell. You're listening to eight fifty koa.
Mandy's terrific. And I know backwhen I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh,
I would always be like, man, not a sub. So anyway,
thanks for hanging with the sub.So I've got some thoughts. I've

(51:43):
been winging complaining about I don't knowthe whole legalized marijuana thing. And again,
I don't think it's the end ofthe world. I think it does
have some medical applications, but ithas it has damaged some lives, and
I think we have to be honestabout that. So no, Senator Hickenlooper,
I don't think that it's has beena raging success or, as he

(52:07):
said, overwhelmingly positive. I thinkthere's been collateral damage. And anyway,
you've got some thoughts five six sixN. I know somebody says Chris smokers
are inconsiderate by nature. I don'tknow if that's true. I think addiction
makes people inconsiderate. So I havea number of friends, really fantastic people

(52:30):
by nature who struggle with alcoholism,and when they are drunk, they're inconsiderate.
It is what it is, andI hope and pray that they will
find recovery because they're not inconsiderate bynature. They are definitely inconsiderate when wasted.

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And I think that's true of marijuana. I actually even think it was
true back. I used to smokeigarettesup until like I quit about twenty seven
years ago, and I remember smokinginside. We was just smoking grocery stores,
airplanes, elevators. Good grief.It must have been miserable to be
a non smoker, and it neverreally thought about how inconsiderate that was,

(53:15):
because that's the nature of addiction.So I don't even know that these people
who are smoking pot and making redRocks unbearable during a concert, I don't
know that they even know how inconsideratethey're being. I wish we had better
enforcement. I wish somebody would comearound and say, you know what,

(53:36):
because you're smoking pot, you willbe thrown out because it is illegal to
smoke it in public. So that'swhat you bring your edibles or smoke it
in your car, but do notsmoke it and ruin the experience for other
people. It's just wrong. ButI think that's the addiction talking to be
perfectly honest addiction makes people inconsiderate.Let's see this person says. I also

(54:00):
mentioned that I think slot machines andthe lotto and lottery that these are really
just taxes on the poor. AndI think the same of marijuana. Yeah,
I know, I number of friendsthat you know on occasion will have
some. But the person that yousee in the line early in the morning,
that person is not a person whodoes it on occasion. That's a

(54:22):
person who does a fair amount andand and needs that substance to get through
the day. And look look atthose people next time. Are they wearing
three piece suits? Are they orare they looking like maybe they're not in
the best place of their life.And I think that is the collateral damage

(54:45):
of legalized marijuana. Isn't that thosepeople couldn't get it before. They've just
made it so much easier to getit and to do it. And as
an ex cigarette smoker, I canguarantee that when I was trying to quit,
because it was it's brutal to quitsome o king it was for me
anyway, it took me three times. If somebody was like, hey,
uh, you know when I justhappened to have a pack of Benson and

(55:07):
Hedges light one hundreds menthol. Itjust happened to have fresh pack. I
packed it for you. I happenedto have a fresh lighter. I got
a right here. Notice you werehaving kind of a bad day to day,
and uh, you know, II'd like, I'd like, I'd
like to give this to you.I would have gone right back. Part
of the reason I was able tonot to finally quits, it wasn't around

(55:29):
people who smoked that made my accessa little bit harder. It gave me
the wheel power to move on.But since don't go to a concert,
then no, I think people needto be asked to leave the concert.
Uh, they're ruining it for otherpeople. And it's different. It used
to be you kept it on thedown low, you had a teeny tiny

(55:50):
joint, you did it really fast. You weren't blowing some big thing in
the face of the person next toyou. Have a little at the very
least, go to the smoking section. The cigarette smokers are all huddled up,
huddle out there by their car havinga cigarette, and you can't do
the same with your marijuana cigarette.Please, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Another person says that they see acorrelation with homelessness, and how do
you not see I get kin.I don't know if it's causation, and
there's a difference between causation and correlation, but I don't recall this kind these
kinds of tense cities prior to marijuanalegalization, they were there. You'd occasionally

(56:32):
you see a person who was vagrantor a person you know, asleep in
the in the park. And alcoholis obviously an issue with some of these
folks, but you know, particularlywith the links between marijuana and psychosis in
young people, it's an issue.Your big drivers, though, are are
meth amphetamine and fentanyl. People whoget into that cycle that will rot your

(56:59):
brain. If you ever see anybodyout there was like I saw a guy
with no feet and then I learnedabout this drug trank. It is an
animal something that veterinarians use to tranquilizeanimals for surgery, and somehow it's found
its way onto the market. Theproblem is is it rots you from the
inside out. I'm not saying everyvagrant that you see begging for money with

(57:22):
no limbs is there because of trank, but it's it's definitely an issue because
it will it rots your extremities.You end up with like losing arms and
legs, and when they cut offyour arms and legs, the bones are
black. It is a nasty substance, but meth amphetamine, fentanyl trank.

(57:45):
You see a guy out there withno pants on, screaming at someone who's
not there. His issue isn't thathe can't get affordable rent. So I
don't use the term homeless very often. There are people who fall on hard
times and don't have a place usedto live. That is true, But
the people who are sitting in thetent Isaac kite rent is the least of

(58:07):
their issues. The fact that alot of folks that got free housing through
Mayor Johnston's housing initiative, out oflike five hundred people, only one asked
for alcohol and drug substance abuse counseling. Only one. Only one. Now
you could say, well, maybethe other four hundred and ninety nine don't

(58:28):
have a problem with drugs and alcohol. They were completely sober, hard working,
had a job, just couldn't affordrent and had to live in a
tent on the street. I guessthat's possible, but my spidey sense says
says no, not probable. ThoseA lot of those folks need help with

(58:50):
drugs and alcohol. And I've gottwo friends, both who both of whom
went to the Denver Rescue Missions programs. Both one was on the street,
was about to end up on thestreet, and those programs, just as
with the Step program, if youneed temporary you know, temporary night to
stay somewhere without freezing to death,you know, there are places, including

(59:14):
the Denver Rescue Mission they'll take youin for a night. But if you
want to be part of their programtowards towards getting your own place, your
own apartment, you've got to gothrough their program. And part of that
program is sobriety. It's right upfront. It's all about getting sober.
And I have a I know I'vedrifted a little bit, but I have

(59:36):
a a prediction. And I don'twant this prediction to be true. But
it's a prediction because of the Housingfirst model, which has been used in
one city in Texas and it's beenokay, So I'm not saying it can't
work. My issue with the HousingFirst which is what Mike Johnson has implemented,
is they get you into housing firstand they offer support services and they

(01:00:01):
go from there. The work firstor sobriety first type of emphasis that you
see in other places, including whatthey are working on in Aurora, is
that you adjust those issues, thenot working and the not staying sober,
as a condition of getting subsidized housing. I feel like if you don't address
those and don't require those to beaddressed, that those people who have the

(01:00:24):
free housing will end up back onthe street or they will end up subsidized
for the rest of their life becausein order to work full time. And
there are exceptions. This person heresays, I smoke weed all day,
every day, and I make threehundred thousand dollars a year building houses.
So yeah, obviously there are peoplewho are able to fund highly functioning both.

(01:00:51):
I have some friends that are highlyfunctioning alcoholics. You wouldn't know it
because I don't drink during the day. They're fine. I had to admit
as a occasional I sometimes I'm anadjunct professor. I always know which of
my students is high and the redeyes. Aren't it just it? It's
uh, there's other there's other otherlittle tip offs that this person is not

(01:01:15):
doing school one hundred percent sober wellit's got a couple other interesting texts coming
in. We'll go ahead and hitthose when we get back or take a
break. This is christ Kafer.I'm sitting in for Mandon connell a Rod
is doing the magic and you're listeningto eight fifty koa. This person's like,
what are you going to apologize tous? We're trying to keep us

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from voting for Trump. I'm sorryyou're feeling what is it? What is
it feeling a little, a littlefragile, feel a little unsafe. I'll
never apologize for that. I woulddo it again in a heartbeat. And
no, I wasn't trying to keepyou for voting for Trump. I said
he was ineligible based on his hisfomenting of insurrection under the Constitution. I

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could invite you just actually read someof the briefs. But yeah, I'm
ain't gonna apologize. So there yougo. We're talking a little bit about
marijuana, and just like that,there's been some collateral damage to our enjoyment
of life here again, you're gonnado it on the down low. You're

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smoking in your house, you're eatingedibles in your house. I don't care.
I have one friend that is inan extraordinary amount of pain all the
time. It's called neuropathy. It'slike her life, he's like her body's
on fire. And one thing thatshe does to just help kind of pull
away from it a little bit isshe does edibles. I don't have a
problem with that. I don't havea problem with that. What I have

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a problem with is that when somebodylike Governor Hickenlooper says that it is a
resounding success, that it is notcounting the collateral damage of kids doing the
hardcore stuff and developing psychosis or killingthemselves. It's not the people who are

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kind of struggling with life and endup getting addicted and it prevents them from
really moving ahead in their life.There is collateral damage and the ability to
go to a place like Red Rocksto enjoy a concert and not in choosing
not to go because I don't wantto come home wreaking like pot. I
think that's collateral damage, and Ithink we have to I think we have

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to level with that and maybe wecan find ways to mitigate it. I
don't know. Let's see. Princesays that I work in healthcare and occasionally
support the unhoused. Most if notall will tell you I'm not homeless,
I'm home free. Being unhoused worksfor their lifestyle, and that is true.
So you think about Mayor Mike Kaufmanwent undercover, you know, just

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kind of dressed like a homeless guyand went downtown, lived in the encampments,
talked to the people. And alot of those guys don't want help.
They don't want to get sober,they don't want to get help.
People show up every day and givethem free food. And what sends me
is that they're going to get tothe end of their life and look back
and what did they have to lookback on? And there were people who

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enabled that bad decision making. Soanytime you just give money to some guy
who's panhandling, you are enabling himto stay in that situation longer, because
if he wasn't making money that way, he would go to places like step
Denver or the other organizations that areout there and you know, and get

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some help, get sober, gethelp. So yeah, so don't do
it. Let's see this person,says Christa. Would Lauren Bobert leave the
venue if asked to ask to exitbecause of vaping? I don't believe if
she was between the vaping and thegroping the uh should we call it all

(01:05:01):
hands on deck moment at the playhouseat Beetlejuice. Eventually she was asked to
leave between the Yeah, I alsothink talking really loud, there was a
couple of things she and her boyfriendof the time were doing and when it
has to leave, they were like, do you know who I am?
You know, pulled out the entitlementcard. I think it's probably come back

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to haunt her. It was notexactly a good decision making. But I
don't I don't have a problem.If you want to vape, you want
to smoke cigarettes, you want tosmoke pot, just it. Don't do
it at the theater, don't doit at Red Rocks. And for your
sake, if you're doing a lotof alcohol and a lot of drugs,
you're not living your best life.I know maybe I'm sounding a little judgmental

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there, but I an unexamined lifereally isn't a full life. And I
say this is something I know somevery very wonderful people who struggle with addiction
and and and yeah, they juststruggle. And I don't think it's a
good thing. And a lot ofpeople are able to have a glass of

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wine with dinner and don't end up, you know, becoming alcoholics. There
are people out there that have theoccasional edible and are not full on high
all the time. But some peoplehave gotten dragged down, drowned, just
drug into that whole of addiction.And I think we cannot say this has

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been a resounding success when there's alsobeen so much pain. This is Christy
Kye. When we get back,let's go a little lighter. You would
not believe how old Rubik's Cube is. It's gonna make you feel a little
old too. This is Christy Kayferand I'm sitting in for Mandy Connell.
You're listening to a fifty koa.This is Christy Kayfer and I'm sitting in

(01:06:48):
for Mandy Connell. All green andpurple. I have some other favorite colors,
some other true colors, but that'sfor another show. And yeah,
if you've not heard this voice before, kind a doubtful. I do sub
fair amount. But you can alsocheck me out at the Denver Post,

(01:07:08):
where I'm a columnist. I'm alsoon Colorado Inside Out and hey, you
can also check me out on Twitterat Krista Kaefer or on my sub stack
and anyway, I said I wasgonna yeah, I'm not going to talk
about smoking pot anymore. Somebody's like, can you move on? I'm like,
yeah, I'm moving on. I'mmoving on. And something a little

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light you would not believe it turnedfifty years old. Rubik's Cube. Yeah,
Rubik's cube. You know who inthe eighties did not have a Rubik's
Cube, which is, you know, pretty awesome. I never figured one
out, and I did figure Ihad to take them apart and put them
back together. Solved. I dothink that's cheating. I guess that would

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be my true colors, is thecolors of the Rubik's Cube rearranged in the
proper order, but without going throughwith all those twists and turns. I'm
actually pretty good at those ones whereyou think you've got like metal things and
you get to like figure out howthey get them apart from each other.
Like that's the kind of puzzle I'mpretty good at. And uh yeah,

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a little bit, a little bit, uh, a little bit hard not
to feel old when you realize thatRib's Cube is durning fifty. Speaking of
old, North Dakota has decided thatyou have to be uh, you know,
under eighty one years old to runfor Congress. I guess they're thinking
that there's too many people out therethat are a little too old to be

(01:08:39):
running. And you know what,you do, there is a point where
you don't have as much energy ormental acuity. That point happens differently for
different people. I know people whohave sort of you're sort of done at
fifty, and I've got a couple. I've got some friends that are in
their early eighties that are sharp astax. A little shout out to Karen

(01:08:59):
and say oh to good friends ofmine. He is still a prominent lawyer.
She's still this amazing human being andsharp, sharp, fun, plenty
of energy. So I'm not sayingthat there are people who are still doing
really cool things up into their nineties, even one hundreds of writing books,

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doing cool stuff, but there isthere can be a drop off in energy
and mental acuity. And I hateto point it out, but President Biden
is kind of a showcase of that. He's lost a bit. He seems
a little a little tired, alittle a little done, like like he

(01:09:41):
needs to retire, and you knowwhat, maybe maybe next I'm not just
pointing fingers at him. Maybe youknow, I'm sure that when I'm in
my early eighties, I will bein a similar position where I'm not saying
I you know, I don't knowthat I'd be running for president just saying
and just saying New Yorker or NewYorker's, new North Dakota's, they're just

(01:10:03):
saying they don't want any more ofthat. At for Congress, And you
know, I didn't Strom Thank Stromsermon? Is it South Carolina? I
think he ran until he died.I remember him leering at me. I
was a twenty seven year old congressionalaid and the guy was sort of legendary

(01:10:28):
for his appreciation of the young femaleform. I believe he had married a
former beauty queen who was like,I don't know, forty years younger than
him. I. Yeah, moneyand power can make you look good in
the eyes of some women, andhe he used that to his advantage,

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I guess. But I do rememberhim giving me a look down, like
you know, at top to bottom, a head to toe's look, and
I was like, eh, it'slike my great grandfather. You know,
I don't I don't want, Idon't want that. Also, these are
kind of short like topics. Iget it, if you have your thoughts,
any thoughts on these shortened lights.I'm at eight? Is it?
Five? Six? Six? NI oh, So, how much money

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do you think Denver has made overthe last couple of years on plastic bag
fees? If you're thinking in thethousands, you are off by magnitudes six
million dollars off of those bag fees. And I get the point of that.
But my issue with not only isit I was one of those people

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that use the reasonable, you know, thicker bags, and would occasionally get
the plastic bags because I use themfor other stuff. I always reuse them,
and the ones that didn't reuse arerecycled. Some very resentful that our
General Assembly has decided that I nolonger have that choice. I don't get
to have those plastic bags. Ihave to if I want to use them

(01:11:58):
for dog stuff or I want touse them for this that I don't have
to like order them just kind ofdefeats the purpose, doesn't it. Also
when I go into the produce section, there are lots of plastic bags.
There, lots of plastic all lotsand lots of plastic all around the supermarket.
I guess that's good plastic, andthen this over here is bad plastic.

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I just I resent it. AndI was one of those people that
recycled and reused it. It's veryirritating that the legislatures like no, no,
no, you got to use therecycle or the regular, the reasonable
kind. I was already reusing them. And here's the interesting thing. If
people buy those reusable bags and thendon't reuse them, you have to reuse

(01:12:40):
them about eighty times something like thatbefore it's sort of worth it if you
buy them and don't use them.And I did it in estate sale for
a friend. I do that sometimesin which there were a heck of a
lot of unused reusable plastic bags,really nice ones, because she just like

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to buy them. And some ofthose are going to end up in a
dumpster, not used or not usedmuch. It's actually worse for the environment.
And then you've got now there's thismandate, we well, we can't
have any plastic bags, we haveto have these paper bags. Guess what
has a higher carbon footprint, plasticbags or those paper bags. It's actually
paper bags. And the reason whyis they're heavier for transport. You gotta

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you know, you gotta buy mefrom I'm guessing wood pulp. You gotta
transort, you know, and allthe wood pulp comes from probably, Uh,
I'm guessing the Northeast. There's alot there with with chemicals transportation.
It's not like they fall out ofthe sky from the big green tree.
Yeah. Turns out plastic bags mightactually be better. Thanks General Assembly.

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This is Krista Kayfer and I'm sittingin for Mandy Connell and uh, we're
back. We'll be back in afew minutes. Listening to ko A,
I don't know if you've been tocassabandioet and you think about it's even better
if you say it as Cassabanita,like say it in the most wrong way
possible. But it is beautiful.The South Park guys did a beautiful job.
It is. It is the restaurantof my youth, minus fifty years

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of dust and grease. It looksfantastic. Everything's like repainted. And here's
the weird twist. I mean,it's more expensive than it used to be.
Used to be like dirt cheap,but you got what you paid for,
Like everything was broken and now itjust looks great. When you're in
one of the lower levels. Itdoesn't smell all like musty and weird,

(01:14:38):
like you know, the one withthe lanterns and the stalagtites. Like.
It smells better, it looks better. The entertainments are better. The food
is so much better it is uh, and the drinks are good. Like
the whole experience is really good.Yeah, it's expensive, and you have
kids, you're going to be outa hundred bucks of which kind of sucks.

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But it's kind of like the differencebetween Elitch's and Lakeside. And Lakeside
the Eloch just moved to Denver andnow they're moving somewhere else. Used to
be up in north More like NorthwestDenver, and growing up, you know,
you could go to both. ElichIs the old location anyway, had
gardens, it was pretty, itwas kind of you know, it was

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lovely. Then they moved to wherethen they became just this kind of standard
amusement park downtown. Now they're movingsomewhere else with the water park and it'd
probably expand again. Lakeside was likethe it was that kind of like Casabanita.
There was like a former glory toit, a faded glory to it,

(01:15:41):
where everything is kind of broken andrun down, but still like you
could see it was once really beautiful, a lot of really cool mid century
signs, but everything's like a littlebit suspect, like you're not quite sure
what you could die like. It'salways an option when you're when you're at
Lakeside, when you're on the Chipmunk, the wild Chipmunk and it takes that

(01:16:01):
crazy ninety degree turn, there's alwaysa sense that he could just keep going
and you could just keep flying,you could just keep on going, and
and that would be the last ride, like your last ride into sun the
sunset would literally be your last rideinto the sunset. But there is a
kind of faded glory there along withcomplete fear of death. But it's still

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really cheap, super cheap to getin, but it looks really sketch.
And that's kind of how how KasaBenita was up until the South Park guys
by about it. But there werefive of these, these locations around the
country, started by a guy wholoved Mexico, loved food. He was
a restaurant tour opened five locations.There's one leaf. This is the one

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and for those of you who area little bit younger, you don't remember
that. In the seventies, themerestaurants were really the thing. So you
had White Fence Farm, right,so you had this kind of campy old
time you know. They they hadthese side dishes that you could only get
at your grandma's house or or theWhite Fence Farm and the chicken. But

(01:17:15):
it was kind of like, youknow, being on a farm, being
on your aunt's farm. Right.You had Casabanita. You had the organ
Grinder, which showed old black andwhite movies and they had this organ playing
and the monkey. There were anumber of these theme restaurants all around,
and they were also awesome places,like you know, Celebrity Sports Center.
Almost all of that is gone.I don't know why. Maybe it's chain

(01:17:40):
restaurants have taken over. Maybe it'sbecause people don't want that kind of entertainment.
We have a following birth rate inthis country, so smaller families,
less of a desire for family entertainment, and so you know, it's it's
sad. But all of those Casabanitas, except for the one closed down.
Anyway, I will get back tomy other subject when we get back from

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this break, which is what isup with the plastic bag fee and some
other stuff and your comments about Casabanita. Yeah, Christa Kafer, I'm sitting
in for Mandy Connell. You're listeningto a fifty kowa Folks, are you
know having some memories of places likeCasa Benita that may have may have gone

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under if it had to been theintervention of the South Park guys. And
one of them was the Yum YumTree, which I never visited, but
it was It's kind of like aprecursor to a food court, but they
had better food. And I rememberfriends went to the Yum Yum Tree and
I didn't get to go, AndI feel like I still feel like a
little wounded by that. That possibly, whatever else has gone wrong in my

(01:18:47):
life, I think I could pinpointit. I think I can pinpoint where
things went wrong, me baking mymom to go to the Yum Yum Tree
and being told no. Also,yeah, Celebrity Sports Center was a kick.
Uh yeah, it was the lunchthat was the place. That place
was awesome. Old spaghetti factory,Yeah, yeah, it was. That

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was a great place. There stillis kind of like a smaller version of
it in Westminster, or I guessyou can get the food, but you
can't get the atmosphere. It wasthe atmosphere. It was in this really
cool old building and they had thisold fashioned vibe going with like Victorian stuff
and there was like an old trolleyin there. And the food was decent,
but it was it was the atmosphere. It was like the way you

(01:19:32):
could get away. And I don'tknow if it's because people use their cell
phones to kind of get away orthat people can actually travel more easily,
so it's not like you have togo you know, you don't have to
go to Epcot Center, which islike the closest I'd ever get to Europe.
When I was a kid and wewere lucky, We've got to go
there, right, that was it. I think it was twenty years old.

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I got to go to Epcot Center. That was you know, that
was the closest to travel on theworld that the average family got if you
were lucky. Nowadays, people havemore money, theyn go more places,
and so they do. It's likemy I was thinking about my niece was
like, you know, why dothey have to have those stuffed animals at

(01:20:15):
the Denver Museum of Nature and ScienceAnd they've been in there a long time,
and I said to her, well, there was a time when there
were like two ways you could seea polar bear, or two ways you
could see a tiger. You couldsee it on the Animal Show, the
Mutual of Omaha, Animal Show ontelevision on one of the three networks,
or you go to the Denver Museumof Nature and Science and see a live

(01:20:38):
version of that animal. You didn'tget to like, you know, punch
in polar bear video and pull itup on your phone. And people didn't
have the kind of disposable income tobe like, yeah, yeah, when
I was in India, I gotto see a tiger. Like you had
two shots. You could see iton the Mutual of Omaha and Nature Show,
you could see it at the DenverMuseum of nat Trend Science. And

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that was the value, and Ithink there is still value. They're beautiful
works of art and anybody who thinksthat taxidermy is easy, it is not.
It's kind of a it's an artform. That is, it's a
kind of a rare art form.Not a lot of people know how to
do it, and to make thatanimal look real and making the form underneath

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it and then being able to putthe pelt over that the things to make
it look real, and then toput it into an environment that artistically through
fake vegetation and the paintings that areon the wall, those are true works
of art. And one time thatwas the only way you could really see

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those animals. So getting a coupleother places, coming in the ninety fourth
aero Squadron at Stapleton Airport because thatwas a cool place. I never go
there. Gillespies down in Colorado,sup was a great place. There is
still a really cool airplane restaurant.I actually did go to ninety four aerosquad

(01:22:06):
Squadron at Stapleton Airport. I justremember that I was sixteen years old and
I went there with a guy.He was eighteen I think, no,
he was seventeen. And here's thefunny thing. We each ordered drinks,
because back then I would sometimes orderdrinks at fancy restaurants to see if i'd
get served. Because I didn't makethe cutoff for the eighteen three two beer

(01:22:30):
eighteen thing. I some my generalyou have the my friends this debry year
older did so. I wasn't ableto legally get alcohol until I was twenty
one, but if I was outin a fancy restaurant and I thought I
kind of looked the part, Iwould order a beer just to see if
I would get served. Yeah,that's that's my true colors. See if

(01:22:54):
I can break a roll, andI'll do it. And I remember getting
served. I didn't get carted thatthe guy went with did, and uh,
yeah, he didn't get his beer, but I got mine. If
you want to go, there's theJefferson County No sorry, a Rapahoe County
Airport has a wonderful restaurant attached toit that I don't remember the name of

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it. But the food is goodand you get to watch the planes take
off there. I'll give I gottagiving them a recommendation without knowing the name.
But it's a great, great place. And speaking of great places,
I was down in Florence, Colorado. I went to the Desert Reef.
It's a like a hot what doyou call them? Those hot springs.

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It's a fantastic place. And thenI went to We went to this really
cool Japanese restaurant called Eto's Japanese andThai. The menu was so big you
had to like order an appetizer.We ordered an appetizer some at Amammy,
just so we could go through themenu because it was big and the service
was great. And no, I'mnot getting anything for making these recommended.

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I'm just saying, if you wantto, you want to do some kind
of fun, take a day.Go to Florence, Colorado. It's a
two hour drive from Denver. It'scloser if you live in places like Canyon
City or Colorado Springs and go tothe antique shops. Head head on over
to the uh the Eto's, andget yourself a really nice and get sushi.

(01:24:21):
Yeah, in Florence, Colorado getssushi. I had like a ramen
dish. It was just spectacular,great service. And then head on over
to Desert Reef and just take yourselfa nice soak. Now, beware certain
evenings. It's kind of a clothingoptional places, that kind of thing you
find if you're a little delicate.Not everybody does it. Some people do.

(01:24:43):
You're just a tiny bit delicate.Nobody flaunts it. It's not weird.
It's a very like zen place.But if if you're just a little
sensitive, don't go there. Don'tgo there on those nights. Go on
like family night. But let's seegot some other a baby does restaurant.
Yeah, awesome. Oh this personknows what's called the Rappaho County Centennial Airport

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restaurants called Perfect Landing. But oh, this is sad. The kitchen burned
town last week and they are notthey're not open. Oh man, I
hope they get that fixed. That'ssad. That's really really sad. Yeah,
I just hope they get that fixedto. That's a nice, nice
restaurant. So, uh yeah,sometimes you just got I mean, maybe

(01:25:29):
there's a way to support them,why they get this thing fixed up.
I know a restaurant that I reallylike in uh it's up on Kipling called
African Grill. They got broken into, which sucks because they're it's a great
it's a great restaurant if you likeAfrican food. And a lot of people
came together and supported them over that. So maybe there's a way to support

(01:25:51):
the Perfect Landing because it's a greatplace, a country dinner playhouse, best
ever. Holy cow, I lovethat. I love that place and it
closed. You know, I don'tAnd it's not like I mean I don't.
It's not that I don't want togo to the Denver Center of Performing
arts they do on occasion, andI see see plays or musicals, but

(01:26:12):
the playhouse Country Dinner players, yougot a great meal, you had a
great musical. It was theater inthe rounds, so you're looking down on
it, and then you know,you get drinks, and it was just
such a great place. I justwant to bring some of these places back
now where the South Park guys theyhelped us out with Casabonita. Come on,

(01:26:34):
South Park guys, you need toresurrect Country Dinner playoffs, because I
feel like my life is not complete. Speaking of total non secutor, although
I'm sort of flashing back to anearlier comment on the art of taxidermy,
which is really an art. Youtry to do it. I wouldn't try

(01:26:55):
to do it. It's it's anart, and I don't support I don't.
I don't think it should be anoutlaw, but I'm not a I'm
not a person who supports trophy huntingpersonally. I don't want to outlaw,
but I don't. I think it'sdumb. I think you should eat whatever
you whatever you shoot, But ifyou want to keep the head, I
think that's fine. It's a wayof preserving the memory and taxidermy is a

(01:27:16):
sort of beautiful art of preserving ananimal. I have a couple of English
mounts, which some people probably findmacab that's where you have this, just
the skull with the horns and nothingon it. Yeah, I know,
maybe it's weird. I think it'scool to me. It's like the beautiful
structure underneath what we all see.I don't know, see Heritage Square,

(01:27:42):
opera house. Another person puts thatin north Woods in on Santa Fe.
I remember north Woods in. Butas to the yeah, switching back and
forth, and I'm going to stopdoing it before somebody thinks I'm schizo or
maybe a little adhd. But thisperson says Krystal ironically, my family just
sold twelve taxidermy horses last week.They were spectacular. I can't imagine doing

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an entire horse. Horses are hardenough to draw, and I love horses.
I love to ride. I alwaysthrow this out there if you if
you have a horse you need itridden, you're in the Denver metro area
and you don't have time, I'llride it for you. All you have
to do is send me your nameand email and let me know that you're
looking for somebody who can ride Englishor Western, or if you just want

(01:28:27):
a companion to ride with, I'llride your other horse with you. But
it's been a couple of years sinceI've had a regular, regular horse in
my life. And I am I'mI'm desperate enough to say on the radio
because I need a little horse time. Yeah, okay, pitches over.
Let's see you've got a few more. I've been a few more minutes in
this segment. Older Dinner Theater,trail Dust, these were these are all

(01:28:53):
great places. I think I heardthat Bolder Dinner Theater is going to shut
down. If you if you havesome have a little insight on that,
let me know. And this personsays, this candlelight dinner theater for dinner
theater is good. I'm going tocheck that out because I love it.
I absolutely love it. And thisother person says that the Perfect Landing is

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going to reopen after repairs are complete. That, my friends, makes me
very very happy, because I lovethese places. I love these old places,
and I love i You know,I've been to countries where there is
no such thing as fast food orto go or to go coffee. If

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you're going to sit down and payfor something you sit down for a good
for a good bit of time andenjoy that coffee and enjoy those meals.
And I know, for me,if I want to spend the money to
eat to eat out, which Idon't often do, I eat at home
a lot. I like to cook, but I want to be somewhere where
I enjoy the ambiance I enjoy.Uh just it's fun, just entertainment,

(01:29:59):
entertainment perhaps, and I'm gonna enjoymy meal. Otherwise I'll just eat at
home. I don't need it togo anything unless it's a to go bag
from what I've already just eaten.And this person says, we used to
go to trail dust off of Itwenty five. They cut your tie off
and give you a free beer.We had our wedding rehearsal. This person
rides thirty years ago. I boughtthe entire wedding party cheap ties from a

(01:30:24):
thrift store. Unfortunately it burned downa few years ago. I think Bolder
Dinner Theater may have already shut down. I remember first cafeteria. What's that
golden is the one that's the goldenYou might remember it's the the all you
can eat buffet Golden Corral. Yeah. Once. So my sister and I

(01:30:47):
for a little while, we're intogoing to really disgusting places and then writing
hilarious reviews like we were famous reviewers. And the first place we did that
at was Golden Krowd where the foodit is uniformly awful, like all of
it, maybe the banana pudding exceptedit, but all of it tastes exactly
the same. Like they use thesame fry oil for everything, for the

(01:31:12):
desserts, for the entrees. Everythingit's like fried in that oil. And
I mean, just thinking about itmakes me want to diet, like maybe
not eat again for a while.And then everything is just this sort of
grossness uniform and it's all been inthere for a little a little long,
so it's a little past peak atthe wilted iceberg lettuce the stuff that tastes

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the same. And then like theone good thing, which is that banana
pudding dessert with it's got like manillavanilla wafers in it. I don't know
what you call it, but that'slike the only thing that I actually appreciated.
Golden Corral. You can eat alot. It's the only corral where
the only all you can eat buffetwhere everyone I've seen was skinny, which

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just if you go to an allyou can eat buffet and everyone there's thin,
it may not be a great buffet. Yeah, I'm just saying.
This person says, I, MissBriar would in yep, yep. Still
open. Of all these theme restaurantsis the buck Horn Exchange, which is

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downtown. It's tenth and O stage. I believe you know why I would
remember that when I don't remember whereI like parked my car, but I
do remember where to find the buckHorn. Uh. It is a neat
place and if you want to gosomewhere, if you want to eat with
deadheads. Literally the place has gottaxi dorm, taxidermy like on steroids,
everything stuffed, unique foods, alot of game foods, and you know

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you can have rattlesnake and different things. You want to man up and go
get yourself some Rocky Mountain oysters,a rod you can go there. Yeah.
You're not gonna have a ball neveragain. No never you did?
Oh yeah, because Mandy paid youto eat one? Did you have?
I did donate to the Food Bankof the Rockies on behalf, so we
did it. For a good cause. The only food item to date that

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I have described as cartilagey. Maybethey weren't made right. It should be
kind of soft and tender. Neveragain, no sack lunch for you,
No ever again. I see whatyou're trying to do. Never again.
Disgusting. I think I've exhausted allof my ball chokes. There you go

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the yeah, I think they're terrific, and you can get them there at
at the at the buckthorn. Whywould be called rocky mountain oysters? You
know? I think if they're cheap, they're called sweetbreads because they are sweet.
I'm actually going lamb docking just referringto the tail there, I suppose,

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or or the little sweetbreads too,with the front of mine up to
Wyoming. I love that kind ofstuff. Put me on a ranch or
a farm like happy as anything,and I'm going to have to help with
some handling of the young sheep,which can closed. Sometimes I think talking
the tail and another case is stuckand something else, and then I think

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we'll be frying those buppies up.Oh yeah, oh yeah, well okay,
so the buckhorn, the buckhorn thispersus the buckhorn closed. I hope
that's not true. Researching. Yeah, please look that up. Let's see
Dinner Theater. Yeah, Boulder DinnerTheater did close property to be redeveloped.
It doesn't say it's closed. Hecurrently closed. It never closes. It's

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like one of the very it's eitherthe very first or the one of the
first restaurants to have opened that isstill open in Denver. Believe. Yeah,
it's it's really old. This personsays, do you do you remember
the Broker restaurants where they served shrimpas an automatic appetizer? Yes? I

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did, I think yes, myhigh school boyfriend my junior year, took
me to the Broker. It hassince shut down. Yeah, I guess.
Oh, if there's an airplane restaurantin color of Springs where you eat
in an airplane, that's fantastic.Never been to Nickerson Farms, that sounds
interesting to me. Uh, RoyalFork, never been there. Fun.

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Yeah, it's a lot of fun. If you've got thoughts, five six
six nine, oh is our textline. Oh, this person does have
any This person has an answer fora rod, and that is why are
they Why are they called oysters?It's because before they are fried and cut
bullballs. That's what they look like. They look like oysters. Who does

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thought? I actually all you want? Thank you. I don't think you
got good ones. Some of thebest in the state. You have to
go up to Severance. Severance,Colorado. Yeah, I will laugh at
my own joke. But it's Severn'sColorado. It's near, it's a little
bit nearer Greeley. And I thinkit's this person. Just as I was
saying that somebody texts best Rocky Mountainoysters are bruces in Severance, best Cowboy

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bar Ever, I will second that, Oh you know what the best ones
are? None of them. Yougotta gotta be more open minded man.
Oh I am that a no,no, no, no, no,
I do admit to that. Likemen are a little more delicate about the
issue. So funny friend of minegot so uptight about it because I was
I was giving them a hard timethat way I've given you a hard time.
I don't know if I was questioninghis manliness or something. But he's

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like, well, you would youeat you know, would you eat a
cow, a cow utter or someyou know, female parts? And I
was like, yeah, you deepfry anything, I'll probably eat it.
You know I could be to thatparticular dish. Yeah, okay. This
person, this person works across thestreet from the buck Horn Exchange. It

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says it's definitely still open. Iam so relieved that doesn't have buffalo balls
at Bruce's any other part, Imean almost very let little leaner, like,
why anything else? But this personwho says, never complain in a
Russian restaurant, You'll be dragged outby your Bolsheviks. I'll give you this.

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How about this, it's pretty good. I would eat those over one.
There's only one part of the body. I would eat those before.
I'm guessing I gall oh eyes,you never had a fish eye? Hell
no, anyone. Kids were liketrying to you know, who was going
to eat the fish eye? Likeas a joke. I had a fish

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eye the other day. Wow,they're not that bad. Why a little
chewy eat anything else? I wasthinking about something else that you would not
eat before you ate Rocky mount andoysters. Well, I mean there's you
know the other thing. Yeah,I was, well, that's obvious.
Just to guess, just to guess, just to guess. Blue pans in

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Louisville. This person recommends that andoh and let's see Bud's Bar in Sedalia.
I got to give that one atry, because yeah, nothing beats
just a good bar with good foodand where you can just sit back.
I'm kind of I only drink acouple of beers a year more of a
wine person or person who you knowdrink an old fashion or something like that.

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When I have a chance to havejust a really really good beer after
a hike, I may have togive to check that out. So anyway,
thanks for bearing, Thanks for bearingwith the with the sub I know
I miss Mandy as well. Thankyou a Rod for all of your help.

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