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Joining me in the studio right now. She is a current county commissioner for
Douglas County, my home county,and she is now running for HD forty
three to hopefully replace Bob Marshall,or as we like to call in Biden
Bob, because Bob is kind ofa lunatic. But that's like a whole
that's just me. You don't haveto say anything about that. But first
she's got to get through a primary. And I had Laura on today and
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I said this just a minute ago. I don't normally talk about state House
and State Senate races because there's somany, but the kind of vitriol and
nonsense that is being levied against youright now via mailers from anonymous super packs
that are here concerned for Colorado isso absurd and irritating. And it's been
going on as a drip campaign forlike eighteen months now, eighteen months two
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years, since December of twenty two. Yeah, so I just don't want
it to work. I want tomake sure that people understand who you are,
what you're running for, why you'rerunning for this seat, what you've
accomplished so far. We're going tokeep it positive We're going to keep it
up, but we are going topush back against the stupidity and crap that
has been sent out in the mailin Douglas County. So that's why you're
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here, Laura. I just wantedto let you know that I appreciate that,
Mandy, because we have a verypositive message. Let's start with the
end of the in mind, weneed to have more Republicans under the Gold
Dome, yes, and we needreasonable people who understand how government works.
I have been in government for years. I was with the state Patrol for
twenty six years. I was thecounty coroner for four years. I am
finishing my eighth year as a countycommissioner. I understand how government works,
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and in order to make laws forthe government, it helps to know how
government works. And so I amwell prepared on day one to hit the
ground running and make life better forour citizens. Now, Laura, you
have been involved in there's been somecontroversies back when you have had accusations levied
against you when you're a coroner,and I hear those pop every once.
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Well, but it's my understanding thatyou've been cleared of everything you've been accused
of. I have been clear ofeverything I've been accused of and going back
to my corner days. The SHAREFFsued me as the coroner, and the
next day the judge threw the lawsuitout because I was following the law.
I will always follow the law anddo what is right. I will not
be pushed around and bullied by anybody. So let's talk about why you're running
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for the state House. Now I'mhere. You are term limited out of
the county commission. What kind ofimpact do you hope to have, just
aside from just being an R right, just being a Republican? What are
the issues that you want to seetackled and maybe way in on at the
Capitol. What was your number oneissue for the state right now? So,
Mandy, I've been listening to myresidents for eight years as a county
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commissioner, as well as knocking ondwarfs for months, and it's not what
I want, It's what the citizenswant. And what I hear over and
over is they can't afford to livehere anymore. Property taxes are out of
control, affordability as a problem.So those are two things right there.
The third is public safety. Iwas with the state patrol for twenty six
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I understand things how to keep ourcountry safe, how to keep our counties
safe, how to keep our statessafe. But as a county commissioner,
we just put twenty million more dollarsinto the Sheriff's department. We hired seventy
five more employees in the Sheriff's department. We have thirty nine SROs keeping our
kids safe in schools. And thoseare things that have happened over the last
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eight years since I have been acommissioner. That is one area, and
I want to go to property taxesfirst, because that was one of the
first things that you brought up withapportability. That was one area where you
and your fellow commissioners did a wonderfulthing and actually tried to reduce the property
taxes of the citizens of Douglas County, only to have it shot down by
the Democrats. Yes, there weretwo things we did. One thing that
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the county tried to do was reducethe value of everyone's property by four percent,
absolutely what the law said. Thatthe Democrat controlled Board of Equalizations said
nope and threw it out. Wehave sued the state Board of Equalization because
our citizens need tax relief, andwe were absolutely following the law. It's
frustrating when we've been unable and therewas the property tax relief bill that was
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eventually passed. Is not perfect,but it was better than it could have
been. And I think that's thebest way to say it. The more
I learn about it, the moreI'm like, Okay, in the current
situation where Democrats are completely outnumbered Republicans, it's better than we really should have
hoped for. What kind of memberof the House would you be to advocate
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for those positions across the aisle?Because Republicans can't do anything unilaterally, they
just can't. It's all about buildingrelationships and coalitions. And we saw Senator
Kirkmeyer and State Representative Lisa Frazell reallywork with the Democrats. Barb was a
county commissioner that I worked with asa county commissioner when she was in Weld
County. There are several county commissionersthere and more coming. We already have
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relationships built. So we are goingto build a those relationships and we are
going to work with the Democrats.And we can't stop those horrible bills,
but we can get some of thenastiness out of it by working together with
the knowledge we have with how governmentworks. And that's what I bring and
other commissioners bring to the table.I was going to ask you how that
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sets you up to hit the groundrunning if you get elected. You just
mentioned relationships knowing how government works.What how does you know? How does
that is that an advantage? Wouldyou propose bills the first year, and
if so, any idea on whattopics you might cover. I absolutely will
introduce bills and everybody, each legislatorstarts with five. And there are things
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that I have had citizens come tome about, like property tax. I
can work with Lisa and Barr becauseI understand how these property taxes are built.
We have a problem with I knowpeople make fun of this, but
a quality of life issue is whereboats and motor homes and cars are allowed
to just sit all over county streets. There used to be a lot that
prohibited that. Let's see what wecan do so that quality of life comes
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back, So you can't have abandonedcars and boats parked all over your street.
Sounds silly, but it's a qualityof life issue. I've already talked
about the property tax We cannot keeppushing more regulations on people because that's what
increases the affordability problem. That's ahuge issue. And that's an issue that
once again when it comes to constructiondefects legislation. This legislative body could not
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fix it. They chose not to, and that goes a long way towards
the affordability, not just in DouglasCounty, which actually has for the matter
where I believe we have the highestmedia and home value, do we?
I mean pretty close some of thehighest, Yeah, and so we get
hit with property taxes more, whichit's great to say, Oh, you
own this very expensive property unless you'reon a fixed income and property taxes are
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killing you. So when you aretalking about property taxes and you understand what
would you like to see happen,there's a ballot. This is going to
be on the ballot. Do youfeel like the property tax fix went far
enough or do you even think theDemocrats would give anything else? We don't
know what's going to happen un tillwe get there. I have got great
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relationships with commissioners that are Democrat.There's a statewide organization of county commissioners called
CCI I have been the elected secretaryof that group for three years, and
I'm elected by a caucus that iscontrolled by the Democrats. It's because they
know I will talk with them,we will work together, and it's about
finding common ground and finding solutions,and that's what I can do. So
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listening to this to a person whomay not know you at all, may
be listening to say, well,gosh, she's just a Democrat, you
know, in Republican clothing. Whathow do they judge you on your conservative
bona fides. I have been publishinga newsletter for three years and if anybody
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wants that, they can go tomy website Laura Thomas dot org and get
it. In that newsletter, Italk every week how we I've had two
to one votes because I am afiscal hawk. Your money belongs in your
pocket. The county should not begiving Lockheed Martin a half million dollars.
We should not be talking about startingcounting programs by the county. We need
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to only do what is the roleof county government and fund only those things.
And that is something I will bringwith me to the state Capitol.
We cannot keep spending money. Well, I mean there's gobs and gobs of
money coming in right now. Ijust had a story today from the Common
Sense Institute about how much the propertytaxes juiced local governments, and during your
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time as commissioner, what has happenedto the size of Douglas County government.
As a county commissioner, I havevoted six times to reduce the property taxes,
and this year we voted to reducethe property taxes almost four mills,
which reduced our revenue by thirty eightmillion dollars. Douglas County property owners are
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going and get a check in Julyor their portion of the rebate. It
could be around two hundred dollars,and I will continue to fight to keep
money in your pocket. There werea lot, a lot, a lot
a lot of gun bills that werepassed in this last legislative session and one
that failed, and that one wouldhave increased penalties on criminals who steal guns.
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So lots of new rules for lawabiding gun owners. No more new
rules for criminals who are stealing guns. How would you approach this as part
of a public safety issue. Ican't believe that there is a bigger penalty
if you are a law abiding gunowner and you have a gun in your
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car and it is not locked up, then if someone steals a gun,
we have got to flip this aroundso the laws are put on the criminals
and the law abiding citizens have theright to exercise their rights and freedoms.
I couldn't agree more with that.I mean, that's like preaching acquire right
there. Would you be in favorof going after construction defects? For me,
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these are the big issues we have. Construction defects. Liability that is
completely stymied entry level housing construction inthe form of condo construction. How do
you approach that and is that somethingyou've dealt with as a county commissioner.
We certainly have worked with private activitybonds to work with developers so they can
build affordable housing, mostly for seniors. That's mostly what we have seen in
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Douglas County. We absolutely have totackle this construction defects because if a young
couple can't start off buying a condoand build that wealth and equity that will
allow them to then leapfrog into astarter home and then a larger home,
they are always going to be behindthe eight ball. And let me just
add I have been walking doors withan app that tells me who is at
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the door. And I am shockedat the number of adults mom and dad
that have two and three kids whoare twenty and thirty living at them still
And that breaks me hot my heartbecause how can those kids, those adults
then start their families and start theirkids when they're still living with mom and
dad. I tell people all thetime my middle son left because he just
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did not see a path forward herein terms of being able to buy a
house, which is foundational for somany people to build wealth. And he
just looked at the landscape and said, I don't see it happening here.
And one of the things that wehave enjoyed, and I know people are
touchy about this subject, but wehave a very vibrant youth culture here that
is important because that's what keeps thecity vibrant, keeps us moving forward.
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But if they can't establish roots andsettle down, they can't stay here.
And I think that problem, forme is one of those that we won't
know until it's too late how badthat problem really is. I agree with
you, and I will tell you, Mandy that I walk different neighborhoods.
And I walked some neighborhoods this weekand that were smaller houses, and I
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was really excited to see couples intheir late twenties and early thirties living in
their homes. I didn't ask ifthey were owners or they were anting,
but I saw that happening, andI'm thinking, this is so exciting that
perhaps there is a way for youngadults to find a home and start their
lives. I do want to asksomebody asked a question about if you're pro
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life, but I don't. I'mgoing to dismiss this question because it doesn't
matter in Colorado. It doesn't matterwith the makeup of the House of Representatives.
It doesn't matter that question. I'mjust going to stop asking it because
nothing is going I'm relatively certain thatwe are going to codify abortion rights into
the Constitution this fall, so we'regoing to skip that question. I do
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want to talk about immigration in thelast few minutes. In your role as
a member of the House of Representatives, what is your responsibility or your role
with immigration? It is a federalissue, so what would your role in
the House be there? As acounty commission in Douglas County. We are
suing the state right now over alaw passed in twenty nineteen and one passed
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in twenty twenty three that prevent locallaw enforcement from working with ice with federal
immigration. Those are things that thelegislature has done that prohibits law enforcement for
working with immigration. Those kinds ofbills need to be repealed because the state
has no business telling local government whomthey can and cannot speak with. Would
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it be fair to say that youfavored local control in most issues? Absolutely
in all issues. There have beenso many land use issues in the last
two years that are focused on takingaway that local control and putting it in
the hands of the state, andthat's absolutely where it does not belong.
And local control specifically the big billthat was just passed this last legislative session
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that has been a pet project ofGovernor Jared Polis. So is it realistic
to say that I actually think it'sgoing to get worse. I don't think
they're done. I think they're workingvery slowly, one bill at a time,
to completely strip away local control,especially as they try to force more
people into dense housing. So whatare the chances there that that gets stopped.
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I don't think any chance it getsrepealed. It needs to be slowed
down. And this is the powerof electing more county commissioners who understand and
have worked under local control because wecan work together and we can explain how
this works. There are a lotof legislators there who have never had a
job, have never worked in government. They think rent control is wonderful because
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they don't understand the other side ofit. So the more of us that
we can get together at the legislatureto work together and build coalitions. In
my mind, that is the solutionto slowing down the try to take away
local control. You got one anda half minutes, make your pitch.
Why should people vote for Laura Thomas. People need to vote for Laura Thomas
because I I've had your back fortwelve years and I will continue to have
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your back. I get emotional aboutthis because I grew up in this state.
I have family here. I havea grandchild, and I want her
to have the same opportunities that wehad, and we can't have it if
we keep growing government bigger and biggerand bigger. I have had your back
on property taxes, on immigration,on public safety, and I have a
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lifetime of public service to help meday one, make life better for you.
That is HD forty three, LauraThomas, I really appreciate you coming
in today. I appreciate you,and remember vote Laura Thomas for House District
forty three.