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friends, Welcome, welcome, Welcometo the first hour of The Mandy Connell
Show. That's herny theme song.I'm so excited. I love it,
so exciting and catchy. I hopeyou're all singing it for the rest of
the day. We I am hereMandy Connell for the next three hours with
my right hand man. I callhim Anthony Rodriguez. You can call him
a rod Wait a minute, yougot was that? A? Two for

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Thursday? Three for Thursday? Thereyou go, that's a little bit.
Three, four for Thursday. Wecan't stop now, five for Thursday?
Is that all of them? Wehave? Eight? Eight? That's it.

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It's you, I know, JK. Anyway, Tonight is the big
night. I'm very excited. Iwill be back here after the show at
six o'clock tonight because Ross and meand Benjamin Albright are going to be doing
a little debate pregame. Now,I know what you're thinking, isn't Ben
the obnoxious sports guy. Just wait, he has obnoxious political opinions as well.

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JK. I love Ben, Andwe're going to come in here and
sit around and do a kind ofa pregame. Uh today on this show,
we are going to be doing adebate bingo card that I will then
use the bingo card generator and putup on our website so you can play
along at home. So we'll dothat in a little bit, and then
we are going to have the debatelive uncut here on KOA. Just the

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regular debate, the CNN presidential debate. I need to get that in.
They're very sensitive about that. SoCNN presidential debate. Hey ay, Rod,
where's the debate appearing on TV?You know it's some channel with three
letters? Oh, CNN, theCNN presidential debate making Yes, yes,
cable News network. Yes it willhere on CNN. But you're going to

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have more fun if you join usover on Facebook at the KOA Facebook page
for another KOA cast. They willbe popcorn, There will be drinking.
There will be drinking and popcorn,and so you don't want to miss that.
As Ben, me and Ross breakdown, tear apart, make fun of
et cetera. The debate as it'sgoing on, and then after the debate

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is over, we are going todo a reaction show like they do with
the Rockies, what they do withActually they don't do it with the Rockies.
They do it with the Broncos.And we want to hear your reactions
right after the debate. So ifyou do decide to watch it on TV,
tune back in. You can reactright then and tell us how you
think everybody did. It's gonna bea big night. And I know a
lot of people are like, Idon't care about the debates. I get

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it, but this one has thepotential. There's a little bit of pt
Barnum feeling about this one, likemaybe they should just slap up a big
red ten around it and call ita day. Cause both of these men
have a lot to lose. AndI'm not just talking about the presidency.
Now. I watched the video.Did I put that on the blog today?
I think I did? You sentthat to me as well? A

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Rod CNN put out a handy video. Well, let me do the blog
and then we'll do the video atthe bottom of the blog. Just for
realize I hadn't done the blog yet. Just go to mandy'sblog dot com.
That's mandy'sblog dot com, and it'sgoing to take you to the Kowa page
with my face on it. Thenlook for the latest posts and look for
the headline that says six twenty seven, twenty four blog Tonight's the big debate

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night. Click on that and hereare the headlines you will find within anyone's
missing office half of American, allthe ships and clipments, and say that's
going to press plant on the blood. Tonight's the night. We've got a
bingo card for tonight's debate. Ifyou missed Yachtley Crew last night, young
people didn't vote in the primary.Jeff Craik beats the breaks off. Dave

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Williams, It's time to fight forthe soul of the Colorado GOP. This
as a petition demands Dave Williams stepsdown when school goes after chronic absenteeism.
Taita found a new race Drift Aurorahas finalized a two two five camping van.
If you've dreamed of being the Nuggetsmascot, fireworks have already sparked two
fires this week. One part ofthe sixteenth Street mall is open. Fort

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Collins is a hotbed of alien activity. Now we've got to worry about deng
gave fever. Tucker Carlson brought thewood to a reporter. That's probably why
people don't trust the media. Kidscan become addicted to ultra processed foods.
The Paris Games are built on cardboard. Is it time to ban twenty one
year olds from restaurants? Taco Bellhas entered the fast food value meal war.

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James Clapper is the deep state.You're doing microwave popcorn wrong. There
is a fatonous spectrum forgot to feedyour cat? An illegal and illegal wait,
an illegal alien trans woman charged atofficers finding racism in a friendly greeting.
How will tonight's debate work? Andthis is the kind of commercial will

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land with voters? And of courseit was accidentally. Those are the headlines
on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. You know the band is on top
of it for Thursday. Normally bythis point in the week they're all,
you know, hungover. Hey guys, by piped down. I was giving
you a compliment that stop get instrumentsdown. Kids so disrespectful they hit the

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airhorn button on the way out.That's how they roll. That's the band.
That's why. Seriously, seriously,come on, come on, I
wouldn't miss the debate tonight. Won'twatch it, won't miss it. That's
funny, Texter, very funny,very funny, this person. A lot

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of you are already weighing in becauseif you just missed the end of Ross's
shows on with him for an hour, we were doing a Ross over.
So we're calling it a couple ofweeks. He's going to come on this
show and ruin the first hour ofmy show. I like being on the
radio with Ross. I have fun. We asked listeners. We ask people
to say, Okay, what doyou want to see in tonight's debate or
what do you think will happen?Right? And let me explain the format

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if you're just joining us, CNNhas released the format. You can go
watch the video at the very bottomof the blog where CNN in depth explains
how it's going to work. Andthe way it's going to work is very
simple. When one is talking,they will have a green light and their
microphone will be on. When theother is not talking, they will not
have a green light, their microphonewill be off and they actually demonstrated,

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CNN demonstrated what it will look like. You'll be able to see both candidates
in a screen. I'm guessing they'regonna put him side by side, but
they won't be able to be heard, and this could be very frustrating for
mister Trump, but it could alsogive them an opportunity to take kind of

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potshots at Biden that only Biden canhear, which could then get under Biden's
skin. And you just you don'tknow where either of these guys are gonna
end up doing. So yeah,yeah, yeah, Mandy. Fox News
is also airing the CNN debate asa Sincas simulcast, but it is still

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the CNN presidential debate. All ofthe other networks, I'm guessing will air
it, but it will be theCNN presidential debate. I'm still curious as
to why the Trump campaign so readilyagreed to a CNN presidential debate. I'm
curious about the thinking behind that.This is one of those times where I

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would have loved to have been afly on the wall as they discussed whether
or not to accept this debate onCNN. Because the moderators on CNN hate
Donald Trump, but they don't openlyadmit it, you know. And that's
the problem, isn't it. Ifthey just openly admitted their bias and said,
look, you know what, asMike Rosen always used to say,
if they just told us where theystood before they told us where, way

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to have that back. If theytold us where they sat before they told
us where they stood, you know, that would work. But they don't.
And that's the difference between me anda journalist. I will tell you
exactly how I feel about everything,whether you want to know or not.
And you know I'm not a Trumpfan, but at this point you better
know that I believe that four moreyears of a Biden presidency would be an
abject disaster for this country. SoI we're asking people what they'd like to

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see in this debate five six,six nine oh. Somebody sent in earlier.
They said they want to see aBiden Trump pickleball match. Can you
imagine anything more boring than watching thesetwo guys try to play pickleball? And
pickleball, though an active sport,is not the most challenging active sport out
there in terms of you know,this person, I want to see an
agility course, maybe we should puthim in in one of those courses like

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the wipeout course. Do you everwatch wipeout on TV? A ern,
Maybe we should put on a wipeoutagility course, you know where they well
one of them would at least breaka hip. So this texter said,
uh, Trump accepted the CNN debate, so they can whine that it's unfair.
It's Trump's favorite thing to do.I actually kind of thought the same

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thing. Have you already repeated yourglorious idea that's actually really brilliant that you
mentioned on the end of rossa show, how when Trump's mic is off,
Oh yeah, now he'll be lipred. So we can't say anything super
outlandish because someone will see the badlip reading on this one. That would
be glorious. But when his micis off, slip in some shots that
only Biden can hear. As yousaid, now after the fact, if

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something else landish has said, jokeand say well I said that because I
was reacting because he said that,Well, it would already be too late.
Yeah, you know, no matterwhat damage done exactly, So get
in some stuff that Joe reacts reallypoorly to and then has to make up
for after the back, everyone goeslike, oh, what did Joe just
say? Yeah, Donald couldn't havesaid anything that bad. And then later,

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obviously we find out what he said, but it be too late,
Like you said, that's a grilly. That's a brilliant idea. Because those
mics, yep, are dead silent. You cannot hear the other person,
barely hear. You can barely hearlike that someone is talking. So it's
not enough that you can make outthe words. It's just enough to know
that someone is talking. So whatdo you say to him? Ay?

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Rod, do you say something like, yeah, how much admiral did they
give you today? This is me? It's like, oh yeah, what
about your granddaughter that you ignored foryears? What about that one? I
mean, if you're gonna do it, do it big, like swing big.
You know what's the old saying.If you're going to start a fight,
throw the first punch, make ita good one. We need a
temper meter for both and see whoreaches temper Oh like that, so we

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keep track, We keep track.Every time they lose their temper, we
mark one and see who can getto like ten. First temper meter for
both. Now, but what whatqualifies now here. Okay, so your
voice everyone everyone collectively to says thatcounts as a as a point on the
meter. But here's the thing.You know, sometimes when you get that
reaction from somebody, and Joe Bidendoes this a lot when he starts to

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get irritated, he does no,he does that laugh first. Is that?
Yeah? Jack? You know hedoes the like, oh you're so
stupid, I have to laugh.So does that count on the temper meter
as like a one? No?I could No. It's always a precursor
to a blow up though, that'swhat. But we have to get the
blow up. Okay, I thinkI think Biden's way more likely to to

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top the temper meter. All right, crazy, no, no. Mandy
Trump answered that question on Hannity.Trump said he did not want to be
seen as turning down a debate withhis rival. He did not want Biden
to say he tried to debate Trump, but he turned it down. And
I think that Trump has been fightingwith the press for so long now that
it's normal for him. It's justnormal. And CNN has a lot to

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lose. I mean, don't getme wrong, nobody watches CNN anymore anyway.
But Jake Caper and Dana Bash havea lot of pressure on their own
perceived journalistic integrity because if they interferewith this debate, and by interfere,
I mean correcting a statement made byDonald Trump or Joe Biden in appearing in

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any way, shape or form toassist Joe Biden tonight, then they fall
into the Candy Crowley level of debatemoderators, and she was the worst ever
in the history of debate moderators.So there's a lot of professional pressure on
them. We'll see what the questionsare. We shall see Trump should walk

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in, punch Brandon in the mouth, and walk off for all the crap
he's had to deal with because ofhim. That's not going to win a
lot of votes because usually, inthe interest of society and civility, we
don't walk around punching around punching outelderly people. Just as a general rule,
I feel like that's something that weas a society should agree upon.

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Mandy I suspect the Trump team acceptedthe first and only debate proposal to avoid
giving Biden's team any excuse to refuseto debate. That is also a great
theory as well. That's a reallyone. Mandy Chris Pomo sent on Ross's
show yesterday that the debate moderators aren'tbiased at all and this debate will be

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totally fair and balanced. To hiscredit, Ross didn't laugh in his face.
Why did Ross not burst out laughingwith that? I mean, don't
get me wrong, I don't thinkJake Tapper is the worst ever, I
really don't. I think he's donesome good work. I think he still
continues to do some work at CNNthat is good and solid. But he
hates Donald Trump, so does DanaBash. And like I said, if

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they would just admit that they don'tlike the guy but have more respect for
him. But they're supposed to actlike and we're supposed to believe that journalists
are somehow these vulcans, that whenthey go to Jay School in the first
place, they actually have all oftheir bias just sucked out of their body
in the anti bias machine that Jayschools are supposed to have. That's absurd.

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There's human beings. Of course they'regonna have bias. We all have
bias anyway. Joe says this questionfor the president, how can you be
president when you cannot stand trial forclassified items. That's a really good question.
Oh to the text, who saidgrandpa fight would be pretty funny,
though, no, it would not. As someone who has actually witnessed a

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grandpa fight in my life, nothingis more terrifying than two old men who
decide to slug it out because youare relatively certain that you are about to
watch someone die. And it's noteven gonna be like a dramatic death.
It's gonna be a somebody falls andhurts themselves in such a way that they
end up dying. Grampa fights arenot funny at all. Mandy Tapper won't

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check big fat liar Trump because itwould take up the entire time. But
here's the thing, you guys.If Trump tells a million lies, then
it's Joe Biden who should be respondingto them. If Biden tells a million
lies, because please, don't evenact like you don't know how much Joe
Biden just makes up up about himselfand other people whatever's convenient. Right,

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It's not the moderator's jobs to factcheck anyone. That's not what they're there
to do. That is the theirdebate opponent's job. Now, what Jake
Tapper's job is is to also allowpeople on this debate tonight a minute to
respond. I we should probably countthis wait a minute, I'm writing stuff
down account tonight. How many responsesare they allowed? Again? Is that

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an even number? Because if someoneanswers a question, they're then have the
option of giving the other person aminute to respond. So we'll see,
we shall see, Mandy, itmay not be great debate decorum. While
his mic is on, Trump shouldcomment about Biden's eyes being bigger than saucers,
because I'm sure they will be withall the drugs he will get beforehand.

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It will make Joe uneasy and viewerswill be distracted while he's talking,
trying to see if it's really trueand make the obvious conclusion about it.
These are all so devious and sointeresting, and they will not happen.
They will not happen, Mandy.I would bring up the story that was
posted last night, the guy inAtlanta that followed the box truck until the

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cops came loaded with children for humantrafficking. Wonder if they came in from
the border. I do think DonaldTrump has to be has to hit Biden
on the border. Oh, here'sone, Mandy questioned for Biden, what
day is it? Who's president?That's just mean, funny but mean.
On the temper meter one point.Every time you see their lips when there's

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Mike is off, Oh that's good, temper meter lips move Mike off.
Okay, both candidates and parties willclaim slam dun victories tonight, of course
they will. But see, here'sthe thing, people, with the rise
of the internet, you can seemost of it for yourself. Even if
you don't watch the debate tonight,you're gonna see all kinds of clips on

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it spun in a certain way.And I'll tell you if you need to
go If if you don't tomorrow onthe show, you have my solemn vow
that if this debate is not worthwatching, I will tell you you do
not have to go back and watchit because it wasn't worth watching. But
if I tell you you need towatch the debate because it was that kind
of debate, then please, forthe love of everything, just watch the

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debate. We are going to haveNick Troyano tomorrow on from the Rank Choice
Voting Project, and he's coming onto talk about primary turnout and primary turnout
in Colorado was terrible, absolutely terrible. And there's a story at the Rocky
Mountain Voice today that breaks down thenumbers, and the only people that voted

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were people over the age of fortyfive. I don't mean only, but
seventy nine percent of all ballots statewidewere cast by people over the age of
forty five, and a vast majorityof those a vast majority of those were
cast by people over the age offifty five. Now, I'm not upset

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that all of those older people voted. They were doing what they should do,
which is their civic duty. Butmy goodness, my goodness, the
least that you can do, especiallyif you're not fully decided on your candidate.
Although I know it's hard to evenfathom that somebody could look at these
two candidates and the differences that theybring to the table and everything that's wrong

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with both of them and come tothe conclusion that either will do. But
we've got to pick up our endof the responsibility when it come do our
civic duty, and that is beingan informed voter. So inform yourself,
just tune in with us tonight.It's gonna be a blast. Follow us
on the Kawai Facebook page. It'sgonna be awesome. We're gonna have a

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good time. There's gonna be cocktails, there's gonna be bingo, there's gonna
be arguing, and there's gonna bepopcorn, lots and lots and lots of
popcorn. I wouldn't be surprised ifBiden just claims the fifth on every question.
That of course from Dan Mandy.I just saw a bumper sticker with

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the words what crime family are youvoting for? Kind of sums it up
at this point. It will bean interesting one to say the very least.
Yes, indeedy we live what isthe old curse? May you live
in interesting times? That certainly describeswhere we are right now. You know,
it's our responsibility to be informed citizens, and I'm very very pleased that

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these citizens of the fifth Retional Districtinformed themselves before voting and gave their vote
to one mister Jeff Crank, whonow joins me to talk about his victory.
Jeff, first off, congratulations,Mandy, thank you, I appreciate
it. It's it was certainly awonderful night for us on Tuesday and for
all the volunteers and supporters that wehad. But I got to thank you

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too. I mean you you supportedme and endorsed me early on, and
that was very, very helpful tohave. Well, I'm glad that my
endorsement didn't kill your candidacy, becausethat's usually what happens. So I'm happy.
Yeah, but I didn't actually,I didn't actually endorse you. I
just said if I was there,I would vote for Jeff Crank. But
that's maybe maybe the endorsement is whenI when I'm giving out. So so,

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Jeff, you, I feel likethe last few times we've been on,
we've spent a lot of time respondingto nonsensical attacks that were levied by
your opponent and by default, theColorado GOP want to ask you one party
based question and then we can talkabout the bigger picture for CD five.
But you know, you were atthe epicenter, if you will, of

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the division in the Republican Party,not because of anything you did, except
you decided to run against Dave Williams. How do you reach out to the
people who did support Dave Williams,who who maybe bought into some of the
attack ads, How do you bringthose people in and get them to vote

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for you in the fall? Well, First of all, you unify the
party, and we're doing that already. I've spent most of yesterday and today
reaching out to other candidates who whoran and lost or ran and won,
and to those who lost, Ireach out to them and said, look,
I ran in two thousand and sixand I lost, and I know

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how it feels. And I gotto tell you, I always appreciated the
people who did reach out to meafter my losses, and you know,
just talk to me about the importanceof coming on board. And actually,
we're having a unity rally in OpasoCounty today at five point thirty that we've
helped organize, and I have personallycalled all of the candidates or emailed a

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few of them and invited them tocome. And I'm really pleased actually with
the number of people who are coming, some of whom maybe didn't support me
in the primary. But so that'sthe first thing. But the second thing
is, look, I just leadthrough what I say. I'm a stand
up person. I don't I'm kindof no nonsense. I tell you where

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I am. I told folks Isupported Donald Trump. I do support him.
I'm going I'm going to do everythingI can to help get him elected.
I mean, just being myself.People will soon enough realize that any
of the nonsense about oh this Kisorhino or this or that, they're going
to realize that that was just hyperbole. Well, I want to ask you,

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have you heard from a Texter justsaid, has has Williams conceded the
race to you? And have youspoken to him directly? I have not
spoken to him directly. He didissue a statement on election night that that
basically said, you know, itwasn't about him, it was about the

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other themes. But no, Ihaven't heard from him. But look,
we're going to move on. Imean, it's up to each of us
individually. And I don't As myparents always taught me, I don't worry
about what other people do. Ihave to be concerned about what I do.
I've reached out Lauren Bobert and ILauren endorsed my opponent in the race.
Lauren Bobert and I spoke yesterday.I had a great conversation. We're

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going to move forward in our relationshipbecause we're going to be serving together in
Congress. It looks like and youknow, I've reached out to Gave Evans
in the eighth district, and heand I spoke, and Jeff heard down
in the third. I'm moving forwardand helping to build a United Republican and
if people want to join us,they can. If they don't, you

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know, I don't have much usefor those kind of diversions, Jeff,
I agree so wholeheartedly. And I'vehad conversations with our mutual friend Kelly Maher
about this very thing. And Ifeel like this election cycle and the resounding
victory that you had, especially againstDave Williams, who's been very divisive for

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the Republican Party, it feels like, and I don't want to be too
optimistic here, but it feels alittle like morning in Colorado a little bit
where there's reason for optimism for theparty. Right. Is that how you
feel? Now? I do?I really do. And I got to
tell you, you know, Mandy, I was, as I said,
I was reaching out to Canadates whodidn't support me in the primary. But

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they've been very open congratulated me.I congratulated them. Many of them are
coming to the Unity rally this afternoon. We're going to move forward. And
I mean, that's how you dothis, just if you want to stop
people bickering and fighting amongst Republicans.The best way to do it is to
stop fighting amongst Republicans. And ifsomebody wants to take a shot at you,

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you know, when I lost intwo thousand and six, I always
thought to myself, Man, it'shard. Sometimes it's hard to be gracious,
right, How gracious is it tobe when you win? It shouldn't
be hard at all. Yeah,stop, you know, put the shovel
down, stop digging, and justbe gracious to people. And you know,
if we do that enough, we'llput all of this stuff behind us.

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And I do I'm pretty darned optimisticabout where it is. I'm anxious
to go to CD eight and helpGave Evans get elected and take that seatback
from the Democrats. And I'm darnanxious to go help Jeff Herd. It's
CD three as well. Well.Both of those guys are going to need
your help. They are facing afar more competitive race, not to poo
poo the work that you have todo to win all the voters that you

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need in CD five, which is, you know, traditionally a very Republican
district, but redistricting and honestly,the composition of Colorado Springs has changed a
little bit, so you still haveyour work to do there, but it
is going to be nice to moveforward. Hopefully we can bring everybody who
feels a little rubbed the wrong wayby this primary along, because, as

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I've said, I did not supportLauren Bobert Bobert in the sixth or in
the fourth. I was very disappointedthat debth Flora didn't you get across the
finish line. But that being said, I'm supporting Lauren Bobert in the fourth
and I think that every Republican needsto just say, look, maybe we
didn't all get our way, butif we're going to write things and keep
things in the majority of the Houseof Representatives, all of this stuff needs

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to be put aside and we allneed to work together well. And look,
I mean Lauren Bobert's opponent as aDemocrat, will vote for Hakun Jeffries
for speaker. Yeah, that's whatyou want, and vote for Lauren Bobert's
opponent. If you don't want that, you vote for Lauren Bobert. I
mean, this is this is simple, man that I agree. Jeff Crank

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is my guest. He is nowthe Republican nominee for the fifth Congressional District.
Jeff, We'll be talking to youagain many times before November. But
I guess you are going to probablytake a couple of breads and then hit
the road in the fifth again tocontinue winning votes. You got it.
I got to go catch some fishin Alaska for a few days. We
have done with that. That's right, that'll be yeah. I'll have a

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lot of fun up there for acouple of days, and I'm right back
hitting it hard. Let me justsay this about fishing in Alaska. You
know, it's very tempting to paythe money to have your fish cleaned and
shipped it. You will pay likefifty bucks a pound to do that.
Just remember that. Okay. It'scheaper at the grocery store, even if
you shop at Whole Foods, thanit is to have your fish packed and

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shipped home. Don't ask me howI know. Okay, I just just
let that. Just there you go, Jeff, I appreciate it. Have
fun in Alaska. Thank you,Mandy. All right, we'll be right
back. I want to respond toa text message about Lauren Bobert because I
just said again and even though shewas not my first choice. I am
supporting her in this election. Andthis person said Mandy so Bobert would have

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lost to herd in CD three,So CD four picked up CD three trash.
She has done nothing in four yearsand the CD three voters know that.
But CD four voters got hoodwinked.How can people excuse her behavior?
I am embarrassed to call her myrepresentative. I will take the person versus
the party now, I understand thosesentiments. However, however, and this

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is a huge however, the majorityfor that Republicans is so narrow in the
House right now, so narrow wecannot afford to lose any seats. There
is a chance that Jeff Heard losesto Adam Frisch in the third congressional district
because Adam Frish has been fundraising offof running against Lauren Bobert for some time

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now, So he's got a couplemillion in the bank that he fundraised off
of running against Lauren bober which's clearlynot so he has a huge fundraising advantage
over Jeff Heard in a district thatdemographically was changed by redistricting. So that's
going to be a fight. Andthen Trish CALVALRESI, and I'm gonna have

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Trisha on the show because she isa Democrat who I disagree with I think
maybe every policy position she espouses,but she's very smart. She clearly can
espouse her principles, and I respectsomeone who can clearly espouse their principles.
And I think she's going to giveLauren a run for her money in the
fourth. Now, the fourth iseven more overwhelmingly conservative and Republican than the

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third, but I think Trish couldgive Lauren a run for her money because
I fully expect her campaign to beinundated with outside money from people all over
the country who want Lauren bober gone. So both of these races are very
interesting. So though I I feelwhat you feel, I get it.
Text her, I understand it.I you know, I'm hoping, I'm

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hoping. I went back and listenedto her interview with Roskaminsky and it was
very good. And I think thatshe has been, uh somewhat chastened by
all of the negative press that shehas been dealing with. And I was
thinking about this the other day,like, if I could give Lauren Bobert
one piece of advice, it wouldnot be political it would be personal,

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and that is find a nice boringman to have a relationship with, someone
to help soften your rougher edges,someone that is not going to help create
drama, someone that is going tohelp, like temper your behavior a little
bit, a nice boring man inyour life, because she's clearly happier when

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she is partnered up with someone.She was with her ex husband for a
very long time since they were essentiallykids, and then she, you know,
had that unfortunate experience in the theaterwith a bar owner. You don't
need a date a bar owner.Ladies, let me just say this,
there are two kinds, three kindsof men you don't need to date.
Number one a rock star. Donot date a rock star. Number two

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a professional athlete. Do not datea professional athlete unless you're Taylor Swift.
Number three a bar owner unless thatis your lifestyle, unless you are the
I'm gonna go out every single nightof my life till I die person.
Those are three types of men youjust do not want to date for a
variety of reasons. I think it'sfairly obvious, and I'm sure, by
the way, in all of thosegroups, there are wonderful, responsible,

(31:33):
caring, responsive men who will fallinto those categories. But this is just
a general rule for a really goodreason, really good reason. When we
get back, Benjamin Albright is goingto join us to talk about tonight's debate,
looking forward to it. We're goingto do a pregame show starting here
at six with me Ross and BenjaminAlbright. His politics are decidedly different than
Ross and Eyes. We'll get akind of we'll put his finger in the

(31:56):
wind, as they say, andget an idea of what we're going to
look forward to tonight. We're goingto have the debate playing on KOA.
We're going to be doing a KOAcast on our Facebook page. You can
join us over there. And thenafter the debate, we're going to do
a reaction show. Super excited aboutall this. Ben's coming up next,
Keep it right here. The MandyConnell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
Accident and Injury Lawyers. No,it's Mandy Connell on KOA nine. This

(32:28):
sort of fetains of Wayne right,it's perky and upbeat. Yeah, you
fetains of waye Yes. I knoweverybody remembers them for Station's mom, but
there are other stuff soundly good.Yeah, it's super good. Anyway,
that's been all right. I'm MandyConnall. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to
the second hour of the show.And tonight at six pm we are going
to do this is where we gotto do the tonight on a very special

(32:51):
rule. Where's the trailer guy whenyou need him? No, Tonight at
six o'clock, we are doing adebate, a debate pregame. Yeah,
we're doing a pregame show. We'regonna you know, talk about we're gonna
use a lot of sports cliches likethey're going to leave it all on the
field. Absolutely gonna give it ahundred Yeah, all tonight guy exactly.
And Ben Albright is going to bea part of this. Now. Ross
and I philosophically are very close.There's a few areas where he and I

(33:15):
differ. But how would you selfdescribe yourself politically? How do yourself identify?
I identify as a centrist with libertarianunderpinnings, but I tend to be
I'm kind of all over that.There's some things I agree with the liberals
on, There's some things I agreewith the conservatives on. There's somethings I
agree with the libertarians on I thinkanything that your roads freedom is generally a

(33:36):
bad call, all right, Sothat's you know that, That's kind of
where I come down. I'm notideologically anything. I don't like dogmatic.
I'm not dogmatic in anything like that. I try to view each individual issue
as you know, does this issue, what's what's the best thing for the
most amount of people in this particularissue? And somebody asked me what my
political philosophy is, and really itcomes down to one simple question. When

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I'm working about or thinking about anissue, does this make us less free
or more free? Like that's mystarting position, Like is this going to
create an undew burden on citizens whootherwise shouldn't have that? And so I
think that maybe you're a little closerto me than I realized you were.
I thought you were at some pointI had the impression that you were like

(34:20):
a wack of do to liberal.But I don't think you've ever really been
a whack a do to liberal.No, And people have called me all
kinds of things. I've worked forboth parties. Is an independent contractor.
I worked for the Wesley Clark campaignand I've worked for the My Cockabee campaign,
both in data and analytics. I'vevoted for both parties. I don't
tend to endorse too many candidates,but you just had a candid on that

(34:40):
I endorse in crying and so youknow, I've done both. I voted
independent in twenty sixteen, I votedfor president, voted Democrat in the last
election for president. I'll probably doit again this one. But that's not
an indictment of conservativism at all.It's that particular persons, right. But

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I think that if you don't seeyourself and I totally get that, you
don't see yourself as a party idealog because I don't really see myself as
a party idea log. But Ifeel like at this point in Colorado,
especially with the current makeup of theColorado Republican Party, you got two choices.
You can either step out of theparty, which I tried to do

(35:21):
in a fit of peak, oryou can say, you know what,
let's just let's see if we canfix this, because in Colorado especially,
we need balance. We need I'mnot saying we need to have a fully
Republican House and Senate and governorship.What I'm saying is we've got to put
the brakes on some of the worstideas, and that's on the right and
the left. I think, yeah, I think we need people of integrity

(35:44):
to be in there that you know. I mean, I can't say incorruptible,
because everybody's succepted on some level,and there are compromises you have to
make in politics to get things done. But people of integrity who view how
do we get things done? Weall, all of us want to improve
American Well, this is not usagainst that, and there's this dialogue that
we've created where it's this red team, blue team, us against it.

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We're all Americans. We all wantthe best for America. We just disagree
fundamentally on how to get there.Yeah. So I think if we can
start creating constructive dialogues, and Iwant people in there who can have constructive
dialogue and do that. Let merun this by you because this is something
I've been like pondering around in myhead for a little while. It's interesting
because when I was a kid,so I was a child of the eighties,
and you're little behind me, notyou're like ten years behind me.

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Yeah, so you're I grew upduring the Reagan administration. When you're a
little kid, you don't really payattention. But even back then I was
aware of. You would have anissue, whatever the issue might be,
and then you have a lot ofconversations on the evening news that we had
to watch, where they would alltalk about it, and then they would
all make a big announcement they'd cometo a compromise and they had worked out
the situation, and everybody's like,oh, oh, that's so good,
that's so good, you worked itout. Everybody compromise. Now, compromise

(36:52):
is a dirty word, right,and I think the only people that are
to blame for that is the politicianswho demogogue each other. So when you
do compromise and maybe get something done, everybody on either side feels like they
got cheated somehow because the other teamgot anything. But isn't that the signe
of a hallmark compromise that everybody feltthey lost, you know? I mean,

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that's not okay in politics anymore.And we are now there is some
game we're like, any win foryou is a loss for me, instead
of how do we make this workso everybody gets as much as they can
hope to get while still solving theproblem right. And you know what if
I were a policy you know,the first thing I would do is,
if I were president, I wouldfind the person who most disagrees with me.
I'd go to the center, findthe person that most disagreed with me

(37:36):
on everything, and find one issue, one issue that I know we agree
on, and go work with onit immediately. Let's get stuffed done.
See that's very Dave of you.Like, have you ever seen the movie
Dave? Okay, So one ofthe things like Dave is, first of
all, it's a great movie.I just watched it maybe six months ago,
and it stands up and it's fantastic. So in it, the actual
president who has a complete ahole,has a massive stroke and they find a

(37:59):
guy who looks like him and theybasically replace him with replacement Dave because they
think they can just pull the strings. But it turns out replacement Dave is
actually one who wants to compromise andsolve problems and all of these things.
But I don't think that especially thepoliticians who have been in office in DC
for so long. I'm not talkingabout anybody who's been there less than five
or six years. The old guard. This is the game that they set

(38:22):
up. These are the rules thatthey wrote, and by god, by
golly, they're going to live bythem. And they don't give a crap
what you do. They're they're soentrenched in this, in these positions.
I don't know how to fix that, that is the question. And there
is such a jaded, nihilistic,sensive defeat that a lot of the younger
generations which is staying out of politics, feels because of this wall that was

(38:45):
created by them. And so thepeople that we get now that are running
for these offices a lot of timesare not the most qualified or even qualified
to run for them. They're peoplethat are power hungry and narcissistic whatever,
and they're they're leaning into, hey, I can get this and turn it
into a book deal after, youknow, after sitting there building a brand.
Yeah, that's exactly. That's thenew There's a new wave of politicians

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that, to me, are buildinga brand. And I don't don't like
that. That is. I wantpeople who are called to serve. I
want people who feel like they canmake a positive difference. But even those
people, you know, I've beenin this business for a really long time
and I've seen many, many,many people that I supported at you know,
every level, whether it's state,local, or at the federal level.
And going to d C changes peoplefaster than any other, very much

(39:30):
like life move that they can make. I watched it happen real time,
in real time. With all withall due respect to former Governor Mike Huckabee,
he was a phenomenal governor in Arkansas. He was an absolutely phenomenal governor,
and I personally don't like the personthat he's become. I don't like
some of the things that he says. Now. I still agree with him
on some things, but there areother things. I'm like, Man,
you've gone along, you've changed fromwho you were. Yeah, But being

(39:52):
a governor does not often always translateto being in d C. Because being
a governor, you are the thebig cheese, right, You're the one,
You're the guy, You're the buckstops here. And it's much more
challenging, I think in DC becauseof the amount of horse trading that still
goes on on a daily basis.Well, yeah, it is constantly going

(40:13):
on. There, constantly deals beingstruck, there's constantly conversations that are happening,
and I think it's more challenging whenyou've been the executive to go make
that jump unless you are president,right, And if you're president, all's
well, right because you are thetop figure head and all that. Yeah,
no, I agree with that,and and that's again I'm not trying
to disparage, you know, formergovernment hockeymy I just he's changed significant.

(40:37):
I watched it happen in real timewith referring to your Washington changes people.
It does, and it's it's reallyI think that that Washington, DC is
by far the most corruptible or corruptingcity in the world as far as I
can tell, because when people goup there, man, they start to
breathe that rarefied air, they startto wear that congressional pin on their jacket,
and people open doors for them andoffer them a great table at a

(40:58):
restaurant and many get they like that, then don't like it a lot.
So what are you expecting from tonight'sdebate? Well, I don't know.
If what I'm expecting, I'm hopingto see because this is a very this
is a unique debate. This isthis is interesting because energy for both these
candidates is at a historic low.And so what you see is they do

(41:20):
have their fervent bases and whatever else, but that the wide swath of Americas
is very I'm holding my nose andvoting for one of these guys, right
And so I think what this debateneeds to do is have somebody convince one
of the two has to convince thelargest swath of the American public that holding
your nose for me is less badthan holding your nose for the other guy.
And I think these two both needto hammer home, specifically economics,
talking about even though the economic underpinningsin America are very good. Right now,

(41:44):
we're up on Wall Street that youknow, the Dow, all this
kind of stuff, it's good.Inflation is still at a high and prices
at the register are still high,and that matters. Your pities are good
if you know Joe Mama is goingto the to the store and has to
pay, you know, one hundreddollars for a cucumber, which is a
real but you get the point andwhat the causes are behind that, because
I don't think we're doing a verygood job delineating that the number one cause

(42:04):
behind inflation isn't who's president, it'senergy costs. Energy costs make up three
percent of inflam is though, becauseand this is an area where Biden and
Trump are almost interchangeable, because governmentspending being out of control is a massive
driver of inflation. Yeah, andso we've got to fix that. And
neither of these guys have a goodtrack record. They do. And that's
the other thing economically, like,what is your economics package to do that?
Because Trump, who a lot ofpeople view as the economics guy,

(42:27):
is the economics are protectionism and tariffs, which are inherently inflationary policy. So
you know, we need I needthem to delineate better how you're going to
solve this because what you've put outso far is not that well. I'm
hopeful and we'll see hopeful, we'llsee if it actually matters. Steve Moore,
who I talk to a lot onthe show Economist, and he's on
Trump's economic advisory team, and Iask him every time I talk to him,

(42:51):
I'm like, Steve, tell me, is the president actually going to
listen on government spending? And he'slike, look, we're hammering at home
every opportunity we get. So we'llsee what happens. But it's going to
be fascinating to see them try todifferentiate themselves, because what I hear from
the Biden campaign is we're gonna investin America, which means more spending,
right when I think there's a realweakness there when you look at how some

(43:12):
of the things that they have aggressivelywanted to spend money on it that simply
have not happened well, and someof them are good. There are things
there are inherent investments in America andgovernment spending that are believed or not good.
Infrastructure spending is a good thing.It provides a boost to the economy,
it boosts our infrastructure. Obviously he'sactually spent on infrastructure, but that's
not then what do we get right, So we're on the same page as
far as that kind of stuff goes. I think that the other part of

(43:35):
this is messaging. The Democrats arehorrific at messaging. By the Biden administration
has accomplished a few good things,you wouldn't hear anything about it because they're
terrible on the messaging. Now onthe Trump side of the House, they've
they've fallen victim to one of theworst things they have it sandbagged Biden for
this this debate. They've basically beentelling you how terrible he's going to be,
that you should have been set inthe change on the podium that he's

(43:57):
won. It's and I'm saying,I'm like, dude, have you noted
if you guys not ever paid attentionto sandbagging? Bill Clinton was one of
the greatest ever where he labeled himselfto come back. Kid didn't come back
from anything. Well. The bestpart about that is like in the last
two days, Trump's like, wait, now he's a very formidable demand tell
you just right the message. Yeah, realized that Biden the bar was lying
on the ground, right, Yeah, he doesn't even have lift his foot

(44:19):
up, trip over it. It'llbe fine. But you're right about that.
I mean, you see it insports all the time where the coach
they ask about the opponent could bethe worst football team in the history of
football teams. They'll be like,well, you know their defense is coming
on and we've got to really payattention to that. One of the greatest
little friends. Every team they wereplaying was the greatest. They're playing Citadel
and it's the greatest team. Itis the sandbag your opponent, So that
you set yourself up for that.I think the two main things I want

(44:42):
to see tonight is a cogent andon point Joe Biden that shows that he
is able to lead a country,that the faculties are there. And on
the other side, Donald Trump,clip your answers, you can put the
singers in. Stop with the weirdrambling stuff because people transcribe that and then
they're like, well, wait aminute, you're talking about this guy not
being coaching. Yeah, clip youranswers. Be concise. That's all you
need to do. Well, neitherof them can afford to get angry.

(45:04):
That we already know that because neitherof them do angry very well. So
it's going to be very interesting tosee how this debate format comes across,
because this debate format could actually suckthe air out of the room a little
bit because it's so controlled. Whydid the Republicans agree to no audience.
Well, we talked about well,I don't know if that was they did
not want to. Multiple Texters saidthat Trump addressed this on Hannity and they

(45:30):
did not want to say no toany sort of any sort of no because
they knew the Biden administration would beused out of Yeah, we want to
debat them so they basically were like, bring it wherever you want to meet,
you want to meet by the tetherball court, let's do it.
They were just always to muting themikes. I don't like the idea of
not having a live audience because itdoes change the apps. Well here,
the muting of the mikes we weretalking about this earlier with Ross is super

(45:52):
interesting to me because of the potentialfor Trump to get under Biden's skin or
Biden to get under trumps skin withthose to the breath comments. We won't
be able to hear right, right, but yeah, across the stage that
has potential. And one of ourtexters earlier today said that he wants Trump
to just like write down on hisnotepad like I'm stupid. I think that's

(46:19):
what a lot of people are tuningin for, sort of the car crash,
thet barn and part of it likewhat's gonna go wrong? How is
this going to just fly off therails? And so I mean I I
was the championship debater in high school. This is a different choyay, no
way you know this is different.Obviously there's no informal formal logic rules and
things like that here so we won'thave those kinds of things. But I

(46:40):
enjoy this kind of stuff. Ido joy. One of my favorite debates
of all time, and if youget to go back and watch it was
Romney versus Obama. Obama is veryeloquent, and people said he won that
debate, but if you go watchit now, Romney was right about everything,
literally everything, and so it's funnyto look at those in hindsight.
The Obama president, see was alwaysstyle over substance, ultim agree with.

(47:04):
So that debate was lost because themoderators decided that Mitt Romney was wrong and
corrected him, even though he wasactually right about all of the points that
he made. So all right,guys, so tonight, here's what we're
doing. Then we're doing six toseven pregame, and I would love people
in my listening audience. I needyour need a favorite folks. We need
to create our first CNN presidential debateBingo card, so we can all have

(47:27):
a Bingo card. And what Iwas thinking is I will get a bunch
of things that should be on theBingo card, and then I will create
three Bingo cards and I'll just puthim down and you will all take one
without looking at it, right,So then we'll play bingo during the debate
and see who who comes in first. So degenerate that I am. You
could bet on some of these thingsat sports books. Oh yeah, so
I already has that's on Trump witchhunt. Oh yeah, and I am.

(47:55):
Come on, man, come on, man, jack one of those.
I've got to got a little littlebet on to have a little fun.
Hey, I'm writing those both downright now. We got which time
we got? Come on, man, So add those to the They're there,
they're there. I'm gonna guess convictedFelon makes an appearance. Oh interesting.
See. I think they'll avoid that. I think they'll I think they'll

(48:15):
use subtext on that one rather.I think he brings it right at him.
I think he brings it right athim because they have to figure out.
Yeah, but they have to figureout if that's a good attack line.
They have to And this is allabout messaging going forward, right.
I just think, like, ifI'm advising on this, I'm saying you
keep your hands clean. You neversay that to the candidate, but your
operatives say it. We say itin the spin room afterwards. I think

(48:37):
that Joe Biden does not like theperception that, even though they're almost the
same age that people still perceive Trumpto be much more virile and vigor right.
So Biden doesn't like that. SoI think there's part of him that
is going to want to come outand try and show his toughness. And
I don't know if he's gonna beable to resist the convicted fella thing.

(48:58):
Well, I don't know. II would advise against that. We'll see
how. We'll see how that goes. Okay, people are already taking you
to task on that fine for sayingthat Biden accomplished some good things. And
I'll say this, like to anybodylistening right now, if you can't name
two things that that your opponent hasdone, you're biased. I can name
thing good things that Trump did,even though I personally don't like him.

(49:19):
I don't like his style. Idon't like the way that he does things.
Uh. He the He was greaton marijuana. He was great with
the releasing of the with the felons, the overhaul of the justice thing,
he was great with He created thatyou can, uh, if you decide
that you need certain medication, thatyou want to do certain things. He
helped pay try right the right totry. Yeah, so there was there
were a lot of things I thinkthat he did to to foster liberty in

(49:43):
some of those things. And Iagain, I have absolutely no problem with
saying positive things that my opponent does. I think that. I think that's
a good thing. I think weshould all be able to do that.
In fact, I challenge everybody tonight, find two things you liked that whomever
you don't support said in that debate. Find two things for that, and
kid, keep yourself grounded with that. Okay, uh so we want your
bingo cards. Suggestions what is goingto happen to tonight's debate that should be

(50:05):
on the Bingo cards. You cantext those to five six six. And
I know I was thinking about doingthis tomorrow. I'm kind of new,
I'm kind of thinking about this.What about a rod tomorrow because we'll probably
maybe have another pair of tickets form KOTB right tomorrow night. So why
don't we have a limerick contest?If you watch the debate tonight, write
yourself a limerick. It's super easy. There was a man from that.

(50:25):
No, we don't do that one. You know, most people don't know
how the rest of that goes.You don't want me to say your say
on the radio, I'll Facebook.I was probably like thirty before I knew
what the rest of it was becauseI don't run and roll those kind of
circles. But heel, I'm standingproperly, I know, I know.

(50:46):
Yeah, anyway, so I'm thinkingabout but I love limericks, so I
might do a limerick contest to onetickets. We don't know. I just
want people to watch the debate tonight, and it's because I want Here's the
thing. It's very frustrating to mewhen people will like tune in to this
show or Ross's show or whatever aweek before the election and basically send an

(51:07):
email saying, well who do Ivote for? That's here that do a
little due diligence, Like I couldabsolutely tell you to vote for, and
I'd love for you to vote forthe people that I recommend. But is
that really a thriving civic society?Is that really us doing our role?
It always kills me when people talkabout their rights, but they never talk
about their responsibilities and being an informedvoters one of them. So there you

(51:30):
go. Hey, Rod checked thetext line. We got a text you
might need to look at their Mandy, I thought you became an independent.
You sure sound like a Republican.Maybe you're an IO independent in name only,
no fun fact. This is fine. So after Dave Williams was elected
the chairman of the GOP, Iwent to my computer and then a bit
a peak. I tried to changemy party affiliation. Thought I did,

(51:52):
and did not until I got myprimary ballot and it was just the Republican
and I was like, so Iwent back in check. So I didn't
toggle something, I didn't hit submit. I don't know what I did.
Oh, I love that you hadcrank on again. I don't know a
great guy. I mean, he'sa really great guy. Smart and that's
it. He has integrity. SoI'm happy that he came out of that

(52:12):
in the fifth. I think he'sgoing to end up going to Congress,
barring any you know, insane Octobersurprise, and that will be good for
the fifth Congressional district because he livesthere and loves it and knows what they
need down there. Ye. So, and that's really all you want.
So nobody wins. It's stupid.Yeah, hopefully something constructive positive. I'll
hear the highlights. I'm sure youwill hear the highlights low lights too.

(52:34):
Then, Albright, I'll see atsix o'clock tonight, nobody were in pants,
right, no pants? Use Ihave pants on right now? You
have? But there. I wentto the yacht rock concert, so it's
kind of like a little bit yachtrock today. Yeah, I wanted to
carry it over, carry the vibe. Normally when people say you know,
normally they specifically tell me I haveto wear pants. So this is a
departure. Yeah, no, withno pants, this is no pants night.
It's going to be popcorn. It'sgoing to be a lot of fun.

(52:55):
So we'll do that a little bitlater. That is been Albright will
be right back right now. I'vegotten some and we've got witch hunt,
witch hunt coming from Trump and comeon man, those were both ben all
right suggestions. I got one forthe listeners, Okay, Ross, like
last time, shows his feet,because we got to involve you guys in

(53:16):
a Bingo card for the listeners,shows his that's such a lot. That
might be like the center, unlessRoss doesn't have that on his Bingo card
or something smells like feet like thepopcorn, your brain will happen that will
absolutely, I have to be inthere with you, can you not?
It doesn't smell that bad. Chuck. No, called you out on a

(53:37):
potential fart. Chuck thought, I, but it's not really doesn't smell like
a fart. It's more like atoot. What What the hell is the
difference between a fart car they're likefluff insane. You can have like the
kind of cute that you know it'sthere, but it's not going to knock

(53:57):
anybody out right, You're not gonnayou just are right, yeah, Like
you're like it was no one havelike the edgy, like the farts that
come out like with daggers that arethat are out there to attack your nostrils
and then and they'll make your gagreflex. Kicken, that's a fart.
The other is a toot. Itsmells more like a toot than a fart.
They are the same thing. No, they're the same thing, yes,

(54:20):
but they're varying degrees of the samething. What you're saying is that
smell didn't necessarily break wind a kindof bent wind. Correct, Okay,
correct, We're like, okay,someone had popcorn, you know, or
like like that. And then you'relike someone had egg salad or Brussels sprouts
or broccoli. Totally different thing goingon over there. Fart is a fart,

(54:43):
Yeah, but they're all farts.I don't disagree with that. Okay,
Well, if you had the gallto call you out on a potential
fart, I don't want anything.Use know what it was. And then
once I said, oh, it'sthe nutritional yeast on the pop question again,
if it has the potential to smelllike that, I don't want to
smell. To be in there withyou guys tonight. Gross, we're gonna

(55:04):
be in there together for like twohours. Man. Yeah, no gas
smelling odors. Text us you arebingo card suggestions at five six, six,
nine. Oh if you could putbingo card at the beginning. So,
I don't know, you're just randomlysending stuff that would be great.
Should Mandy bring in the fart smellingpopcorn? Yes? Or no? Trump
needs to make a campaign promise tofight elder abuse, says this text,

(55:27):
then stare at Joe Biden. Oh, oh, Biden whispering for effect.
He did that last time, Bidenwhisper, whisper, I closed for five
seconds or more for you closed fiveseconds or more so we start counting every
time because he's got to get sleepyfive seconds. I heard you guys earlier.
Do you think he does drink likesome energy drink or like injected with

(55:51):
something. I don't think he's gonnabe inchected with something. I do think
Ross is right, like you don'twant to throw a wild card in there,
but remember the angry State of theUnion address where his lips kept quivering
the entire time. That to meis indicative of too much caffeine something going
on. So yeah, Ben Albrightsaid, to try to find something positive
from both candidates. I have apositive idea for Joe and his team in

(56:13):
the sleeve smelling salts. Just putyour hand up if you need every now
and they need a little Oh oh, that's actually a good salts in sleeve
man. I'm just saying you wantit in time to helps to accidentally scratch
his nose, because he does thatand he accidentally gases himself with a smelling
stone, saying you see that handgo near and his eyes go, oh,
we know what happened. Why isthe word cannibal making its way into

(56:36):
here? What is that? Isthat a reference to Haiti, Why is
Cannibal in there? Cannibal Cannibal.Yeah, it says Cannibal. Cannibal an
actor that was in the social networkthat Cannibal nor Northern Colorado. Dan just
asked, you mean a what crawledup you and died kind of? That
is what I'm talking about. That'snot that, that's that's the edgy,
angry gas cannible text Army Hammer.I don't think we'll be making an appearance

(57:01):
to me, No, no,no, Mandy will Ross wash his legs
tonight before your show? I wouldsay absolutely not. The man is a
heathen, never does so anyway.No puke that worse than the popcorn anyway,
it won't matter nutritional yet smells likeparmesan cheese. That's what the stink.
It's exactly. It's the It's thenon dairy version of sprinklely cheese,

(57:24):
and it's delicious and good for you. Bingo card Trump calls him sleepy Joe.
That's going on there, sleepy Joe, Bingo Biden, my god,
my god, come on, well, it's gonna be my god man,
which is my god right there?Over? Undersetting on how long it takes

(57:47):
him to call him a convicted fellon. I'm gonna say no. Ben says
no, He's gonna try and keephis hands clean. I don't see that
happen. I'm gonna go like thissecond half hour because I think we're gonna
get a break at thirty and abreak at one hour two minute breaks.
So I'm thinking second segment at anypoint before the debate, coming back from

(58:10):
commercial or after the debate, shakehands now. I think at the beginning
they do. Oh, Biden's unclewas eating by cannibals. I forgot about
that. Yeah, not really,he lied about that. Yeah, huh
yeah, cannibal's is going on thecar. It was the content. Okay,
So his great uncle, the storythat he told, and I might

(58:32):
not have this exactly right, butit's in this ballpark and it's all made
up, so it doesn't matter ifI'm right or not. But apparently that
his uncle in World War two wasshot down over the over New Guinea,
Papua New Guinea, and they neverfound him, and then they just they
found a pile of bones later becausethere was cannibals in that area. He
really ticked off the government of PapuaNew Guinea when he said it, and

(58:57):
it was completely a lie, justd out of whole cloth. Joe,
you can call me hand about thecannibal because I'm devouring you in this debate.
Tonights, no contest. Bingo,mallarkey, mallarkey. We'll see if
Malarkey makes it. Yeah, we'llsee if that makes it. Um bingo

(59:19):
card pause, pause, like justpause for a second, like Joe just
stops. We've seen it twice.Now do we get and this could be
like the golden ticket item because ifthis happens, everything's downhill. Do we
get the third? I think it'sthe third because it's been two big times,
the big giant freeze that we've beenseeing from Joe. I have the

(59:39):
the Biden blanks. I mean,like the really bad you've seen twice.
Now. I don't. I don'tthink so. I don't think we see
that. I don't. I thinkhe's going to be sufficiently caffeinated up.
But we're not going to see that. But you never know, Bingo Card.
Biden instructs the non existence audience toplease clap. That would be really

(01:00:00):
funny. That'd be very funny.I need more for Trump. Mandy Trump
should say say her name and getit right this time. Oh wow,
talking about Lake and Riley. That'sa good that's a zach right, And
this could be for Trump. Havewe in any capacity seen any senior moments
from Trump that could be on thebaby he has forgotten? He mixed up

(01:00:22):
Nancy Pelosi and Nikki Hayley, sohe mixed up those names. I'm trying
to think I saw another one fairlyrecently, but nothing. Nothing earth shadowy
like things that if you talk fora living, you know, could happen
fairly easily. So yeah, Idon't know. Trump mentioning the wall.

(01:00:45):
Oh yeah, how about this Bidenblaming Trump for immigration? That's gonna happen
for sure. That could go inthe middle square. Ok. Do we
need multiple laptop references like from themoderators and Trump Hunter's last one I think

(01:01:07):
is a lock. We gotta geta few Hunter's laptop. I think Trump
accuses Biden of being bought by China. China, mm hmm. This is
less less so for the Bingo car. But in what capacity do do essentially

(01:01:31):
the two wars going on be broughtup? And who brings up like the
moderators get them going on that conversationor one of them wants to focus on
it to undermine the other. Somebody'sasking, that's a good question. I
don't know the answer to someone's asking. What's the over under on how many
times microphones are shut off while someoneis still talking? So we get over

(01:01:53):
under here, Mike's cut over under. I'm gonna set it at three and
a half each. Ooh no,I'm gonna set it at six for each.
Yeah, we're total. Let's gototal. It's easier. Okay,
well then i'm gonna go. I'mgonna go. I'm gonna go ten,
ten. Bring it down just alittle bit, like as in the they're
not done because they get the warninglights for do you have the video on

(01:02:15):
the blog today or the CNA youhad this on the blog at Mandy's blog
today, you can find a videoof how the debate is actually gonna look
at how it's gonna work, soyou will see that when their time is
up, their microphones are going tobe cut off. They have big flashy
lights leading into it, like theyliterally have on the cameras, big warning
like yellow lights, flashing reds andthen solid reds when the mics are going

(01:02:36):
off. So there's no excuse forthem not to know when the mic is
going off. I still think they'llboth be cut off numerous times. And
well, we're gonna take a quickbreak. I'm gonna write down more bingo
card stuff because you guys are textingthem in to the Common Spirit Health text
line at five six six nine zeroback after this. I've got a lot
of people, and it is DianaRoss tonight, you guys. I don't
know why I said Donna Summer.I yacht rocked out too hard last night.

(01:03:00):
I didn't even drink last night,but I still only got six hours
of sleep, so I'm a littlepunchy. And yes to the person who
said, did you go to thehigat Zeba Cancun, Yes, I did
you, asked Philly Ocean. Hedidn't know. Did they have an opener
last night? They did? Aband called No Rain raised something like that.

(01:03:20):
They were perfectly fine, good,nothing wrong with them, enjoyed their
music. They need a drummer.I'm just saying it's like three guys with
guitars and not even a bass,just throwing there. Uh oh oh should
I should I read the ten typesof farts that have now been sent to
our text line? Uh? UhI yes, I got a look at

(01:03:43):
these bingah. Wow. No Ican't read those, but thank you for
participating. There you go, Bidensays, true story. Now I've added
some to the lists that came inwhile we were on the break. Okay,
so I want you to know this. Here we go. Here's where
we have so far for our Bengocards, which hunt to come on man

(01:04:03):
convicted felon Biden blank stare Vacuum linesaround the podium. I forgot to tell
you that one so a cleaner calledand said, put a Bingo square,
that there will be vacuum lines onthe carpet around the podium. And I
thought that I'm down, mark medown. It's a weird side bet,
but it's going on there. Mygod, Ross shows his feet. Biden

(01:04:23):
whispers, closed eyes for five secondsor more. Sleepy, Joe, my
god is on there twice. Youknow he doesn't say that often. Donald
Trump fake news, Oh, fakenews? You're right, Yeah, let
me add that on here. Cannibal'smalarkey the wall, Biden blaming Trump for
immigration hunter's laptop China. He's gonnacall him China. Joe, Yes,

(01:04:45):
incomprehensible mumbling, is on there aswell they do one armed push ups.
That would be cool if they justdropped down and just gave one arm push
ups. There you go, rambleended with a anyway huge huge may make
it. Trump drops an original nickname. Tonight best worst ever seen. This

(01:05:10):
is the best economy, the worsteconomy we've ever seen, Afghanistan, true
story and fake news. I feellike we're well on our way. Oh
Trump does the like get close tothe mic to say, like the final
word of a phrase you know I'mtalking about He's done it all. Yeah,
it's all close, and does thisreally close? And then something Trump
close talk. I've also gotten nota joke Biden noises, not a joke,

(01:05:33):
not a joke, Trump close talks. I have enough to make several
Bingo cards Mandy Bingo. Does Bidenwalk away from the podium, No,
he's pretty, I mean he understandshow they work. Yeah, it is.
My mom always says that the grocerycard is a poor is a vain

(01:05:54):
woman's walker. I think that Bidenneeds to hang on to that lectern as
they say, broll be back whenwe get back. We got the two
minute drill. We haven't done anythingon the blog today and there's some really
good stuff on the blog, solisten up. It's all coming up next.
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored byBelle and Pollock Accident and Injury Lawyers.
No, it's Mandy Connell, MandyTon on KLAM ninety FM, god

(01:06:24):
wat and they's the freight Bendy Connalkeeping sad thing the two minute drill at
two Hey, we're go go toominute mornings rep it fire stories of the
day that we don't have more timefor play tel let's call. This will

(01:06:45):
take longer than two minutes. Areout. Here's Mandy Connell. All right,
my friends, guess who's back.If you guess Tata Anderson, you
guessed right. He's found a newpolitical grift, this one surrounding the of
a man named Killing Lewis at thehands of Arapaho police officers. It went

(01:07:05):
like this, mister Lewis was beingcharged and was being sought in connection with
firing a gun at and shooting asixty three year old man multiple times.
Well, they finally figured out wherehe was, the SWAT team went in
to arrest him. When they wentin, they told him to get on
the ground. He did not.He reached into his pocket and turned around

(01:07:27):
with a cell phone when he wasshot once and subsequently died. Tata Anderson
showed up at the Aurora City Councilto yell things like say his name,
killing Lewis, justice for killing Lewis, and frankly, I'm tired of criminals
being elevated in any way, shapeor form because they happened to be killed
in an interaction with police. Ifyou watch the body camp footage which I

(01:07:50):
have, you don't know what thatguy's turning around with. And if he
had just complied, this would nothave happened, full stop period. Moving
on to drill it too. Ifyou're looking for a new gig, how
about being Rocky, the mascot ofthe Denver Nuggets. Now, Rocky has
been in the news for many yearsas allegedly being paid up to six hundred

(01:08:14):
thousand dollars a year, the highestpaid mascot in the NBA. Well,
if you want to be Rocky,don't be thinking you're gonna be making the
big bucks. This starts between seventythousand and one hundred and thirty thousand per
year. But you better be athletic, you better know how to tumble,
and you better be able to dunka basketball after jumping on a trampoline.
Rocky is probably one of the mostactive mascots in the NBA, but now

(01:08:36):
Kronky is hiring for that position.So if you've ever dreamed of being the
guy sweating his ass off in thesuit, now's your chance to drill it
too. Can we just talk forjust one second about fireworks, because officials
in Douglas County are urging people tonot use illegal fireworks this Fourth of July.

(01:08:58):
They've already had to put out two, not one, but two separate
vegetation fires that started in open spacesaround Douglas County. It is going to
be dry this weekend and windy thisweekend, as it is pretty much every
Fourth of July. So if youdo have to do fireworks, make sure
you have a way to put thosefireworks out if they start to catch other
things on fire. And know this, if you let a firework that sets

(01:09:21):
my house on fire, I'm goingto sue you and own everything in your
life for the rest of it.Just letting you know up front. Drill
it too, so this is interesting. Finally, the first block of the
sixteenth Street Mall renovation is open betweenLarimer and Lawrence Streets. This project has
been going on forever and putting lotsof businesses out of business, so you

(01:09:44):
can go down and check out thedifferences. But know this, you will
still see a lot of fencing becausethis project is going to go on for
forever. I mean, it's supposedto be done in the fall. I'll
believe it when I see it.Drill it too. Need a new thing
to panic about, Well, nowyou can panic about Dan gay fever.
Den gay fever is a mosquito bornillness. It has been surging worldwide as

(01:10:09):
the earth gets warmer and mosquitoes movefurther than they have before, We're gonna
have to deal with a lot ofmosquito born illnesses now. It's on the
rise in the United States, butthere's still not very many cases in the
Lower fifty or the fifty States together. Now you should be aware though,
that along with Dan gay fever,you also should be concerned about West Nile

(01:10:32):
virus. West Nile virus almost tookout a very good friend of mine last
year, So be aware and maybemake mosquito repellent a regular part of your
outdoor activities. To drill it too. Uh, the media is not trusted
at all in the United States,and the Washington Post has a long story
on it. This says, theWashington Post is grappling with declining readership,

(01:10:55):
canceled subscriptions, and they cannot figureout why about this. It is because
you have become an arm for theDemocratic Party and people are tired of it.
They don't want to consume your newsbecause you will not admit that you
have a bias. And maybe startwith that and then maybe people will come
back. Now they want to blameTrump for the fact that seven and ten

(01:11:16):
indicated that they do not have muchtrust in the media or they had no
trust at all. As one whoreally believes that we need to have vibrant
journalism happening, I sure hope theycan get it together before nothing is left
and they are raining over an ashheap. Drill it too. And finally,
news that highly processed ultra processed foodthink jump food has the ability to

(01:11:43):
become addictive for some people. Sometwelve percent of seventy three million children in
adolescents in the US today struggle witha food addiction because this food is designed
to hit your dopamine centers. It'sdesigned to have so much fat and sugar
that your body begins to crave it. And when you have kids who grow
up on ultra process food, theycrave it all the time, to the

(01:12:05):
point that some kids will stop hangingout with their friends, they will sneak
junk food, and obviously this isa very bad thing for your health.
So if you're one of those people, it's a lot of ultra processed foods,
pay attention to this. You needto stop before it kills you.
Like every addiction, pretty much.Well, that, my friends, has

(01:12:26):
been the two minute drill, bythe way, just as a little side
note, now, we told youguys a while ago that we could not
put the two minute drill or ofthe day or the intro to the show
on the podcast because of licensing agreementsthat are only good for over the air
use and not good for the webuse. We have now solved that problem.

(01:12:48):
Well as of today, will theyall be on the album just the
last part? Hey, yay.So you might notice some slight It has
to do with music licensing, andit's just it's it's a business thing and
it's prohibitively expensive to license on theweb versus what we already pay to license
things for over the air use.So there you go. We have solved

(01:13:10):
that problem. Oh while that is, I asked our Okay, here's a
little inside baseball right a little behindthat. We're pulling back the curtain,
I asked our production director, AJ, because our production director has an entire
library of music that is called licensedmusic, and it's generic music made by
musicians and they sell it and thenwe buy it, and it's just generic

(01:13:30):
music like this, for instance,that is generic licensed music. But we
can play this anywhere because we ownthe license. I said, AJ,
do you have anything that sounds remotelylike Jeopardy that's licensed that we can use?
And this is what he sends me, and my gosh, do it
again. Oh my gosh. Thatis dancing right on the edge, isn't

(01:13:51):
it. I like it. Sobasically, we're going to have the designer
imposter versions of that song. Ifyou the theme to Jeopardy, you're gonna
love designer impostors version. Hey doyou get that reference? I just made
the designer impostor's reference, not atall. Dang it, that's an eighties
reference and it's so good back inthe eighties, designer impostors came out with

(01:14:15):
all these ripped off fragrances, sothey're like, if you love Calvin Klein,
you're gonna love designer impostors. Allthe smell with half the price,
only they were not even close.If you were wearing a designer impostor.
Everybody was like, oh, somebodycan't afford the real stuff, throwing them
out there. We were petty andsmall back then, but now you can.
Oh, here's a question you canmul over while we're taking a break,

(01:14:39):
Mandy, speaking of farts, doyou think the Nuggets mascot lets one
go when he's in the rocky suitUnless there's air vuns, there's no escaping.
That depends on what he had fordinner the night before. In my
view, it is an African Americanwoman and in it she makes the bold
and daring claim or explanation. Rather, I should say, she's explaining why

(01:15:03):
she personally doesn't use the racist termgood morning. And then she goes on
to fabricate a complete, completely ridiculouslike series of events why she doesn't use
this. And she says back inslavery times, because apparently no one said

(01:15:23):
good morning until that good morning wasactually an insult, because the masters would
beat and hang and murder and rapetheir slaves and then throw them into a
dark closet or a dark, darkshed overnight and allow them to just suffer
all night and then open the doorand say, did you have a good
morning? Meaning mourning period? Andthe only reason I put this on the

(01:15:44):
blog is because it is a perfectdemonstration of what you are capable of when
you decide that everything in the worldis racist, and there you must create
a backstory for that racism. Theproblem for her is that, of course
the phrase good morning goes back wellbefore slavery times, and outside of her

(01:16:09):
little fabricated notion that this went on, I don't see any actual evidence for
this particular position. And it's thislady. I just want to sit down
with her, maybe have a cupof coffee or whatever her thing is,
maybe tea. I don't know.I don't know what's not racist in her
world. I have no idea,but just have a conversation and say,
you know, everything was not great, and we did a terrible job by

(01:16:31):
the African people that we've brought tothe United States of America. But do
we need to make everything that wedo right now racist. Do we need
to try and create some way orsome reason to chin up hatred with everything
in the United States of America.I don't think we do. I'm just
gonna call it like that. Butyeah, you can find racism anywhere,

(01:16:56):
absolutely anywhere. Do not forget.Tonight at six o'clock we meet Ross Kaminski
and Benjamin Albright. It was juston me with a little bit, a
little go a little bit ago,talking politics. We are going to do
a pregame show for the debate tonightat seven o'clock. You're going to be
able to listen to the debate inits entirety right here on KOA. And

(01:17:17):
we are going to have the KOACast going on our Facebook page. A
Rod says, you do not needto be a Facebook member in order to
watch our KOA cast. All youhave to do is go do Facebook dot
com forward slash KOA Colorado and that'sgoing to take you to our Facebook page
and we will be kind of doingour little mystery Science Theater three thousand in

(01:17:39):
the background, making fun, makingsnarky comments, talking about infuriating things that
are said that are easily demonstrably false. We'll be fact checking in real real
time, and it's going to beboth a hoot and a holler. Minny
and Ross and Ben on ko Ay, come on Mische that would be awesome.
Yeah. I like the fact yougave me first billing, Mandy and

(01:18:00):
Ross and Ben. Yeah, you'reproducing. Okay, Hey, let's do
it. See if AJ can makethat happen before tonight. I'm very excited.
And then after the debate, ifyou decide to watch the debate on
TV and you don't want to watchus on Facebook, that's fine. But
after the debate, tune back inbecause we're going to be taking your reactions
to the debate live, either bytext message or by phone. We're going

(01:18:23):
to take phone calls, and Iwant to hear that instant reaction before any
of the pundits get into your head, right because by tomorrow morning, by
the time the show starts tomorrow,we are going to have a whole bunch
of pundit class out there that aregoing to tell you what they think.
And I want to get your thoughtsbefore that's polluted. So tonight starts at
six, then we got the debate, and that goes seven to eight thirty

(01:18:45):
and then eight thirty we are goingto be going live with your reactions right
here on KOA. So it's goingto be a lot of fun. I'm
very much looking forward to it.There's going to be popcorn where relatively certain
Ross is not going to wash hislegs, although I have declared this no
pants night, so we'll be ableto see if Ross has just like dirty
stains down his legs. I'll havea full report on that when we get

(01:19:05):
back. I don't want to callher a king killer, but I will
say that Kelly Maher did something inthis last election cycle that a lot of
Republicans in this state are too chickento do. She saw a problem,
she knew it had to be addressed, and boy did she ever address it.
We're going to talk to her aboutthat and is a Republican party worth

(01:19:27):
fighting for? I'm going to dothat next. She's a chief wack a
doodle slayers. I would have businesscards printed to say chief wack of doodle
slayer is what I'm gonna do.Because Kelly Maher a long time politico.
How I tried to get out andraise goats and they pulled her back in
I couldn't help it. I couldn'thelp it. But remember when I came
on the show the first time andI was like, I'm backman, I'm

(01:19:49):
politics is the Hotel California, right. She was radio. It's very similar,
Like people will try and leave radioand they're gone for like a year,
and they're like, I could doit. I know, it's really
problematic. And then Dave Williams decidedto run for Congress and decided to cannibalize
the party and decided to just tryto burn everything. Well, I mean,

(01:20:11):
look, he did burn many thingsto the ground. Unfortunately, as
part of that, he also burnedhis congressional aspirations to the ground. So
thank you Dave Williams for being sobad at this that you lost two to
one. Let me ask you thisquestion, and this is a loaded question
based on those people have said tome and things that I believe. You

(01:20:32):
started a super pack and a fiveto one four C called restoring sanity,
restoring standards. I keep calling itsanity. I wanted, I know.
Yeah, So restoring standards specifically togo after people on the political fringes,
and this is Republicans and Democrats andhave been very clear although I have to

(01:20:55):
say I want to say a bigthank you and a big round of applause
to Democratic and independent voters who votedin the Democratic primary who unseated Tim Hernandez
and Elizabeth Epps and talking about takingout the trash, that was exactly thank
you. Tuesday was a very badnight for anti semites and homophobes. Yes,
and you know what, Yeah,that's great in my book. And

(01:21:17):
I want to be careful though,because people keep talking about like, oh,
it was such a great night formoderates and we took out like the
super progressives and the super conservatives,Like it's not progressive to be anti semitic,
right, and it is not conservativeto basically steal money from the Colorado
Republican Party for your own congressional aspirations, right, Like, neither of those

(01:21:40):
things are in fact indicative of eitherprogressivism or conservatism. And what this was
about to me was like a nightwhere it was the good faith, bad
faith, good people, bad people, and good people largely won. I
mean, Jeff Crank is very conservative. I've known him for twenty years,

(01:22:01):
hugely conservative guy. He's a huntingbuddy of mine, right, like Christian
conservative, consistent free Market supported DonaldTrump twice, supports Donald Trump now despite
the fact that he endorsed his opponentwho then failed. Yes, Jeff was
on the show earlier today, andif you missed that interview, I'd urge

(01:22:21):
you to go back and listen toit, because there was a lot of
happy Warrior in the conversation that Ihave with Jeff. And that leads me
to my next question, which isthe Colorado Republican Party is in a just
disaster mode right now. We havea petition signed by enough members of the
Central Committee to ask for a recallelection against Dave Williams's chairperson. It's my

(01:22:45):
understanding that the bylaws say that thatmeeting has to happen in thirty days,
but Hope Shefflman is already indicated theywould just add it to an already scheduled
meeting in August. Yeah. Andso weird, by the way, that
after that shellacking Tuesday night, shesent out a call at seven fifteen am
on Wednesday morning just being like,oh, hey, we have a meeting.

(01:23:05):
Oh hey, by the way,no additional things. Well, here's
some here's some by laws changes,and no additional things will be added.
The answer to that is No,that's not how it works, right.
They need to follow their own bylawsperiod. The by laws have just been
an impediment to the Williams administration inthe GOP, and hey, bylaws that

(01:23:26):
he doesn't like, he just ignores, right, I mean, ultimately,
what needs to happen moving forward isand this is this is just my opinion,
right, everybody's got their own opinions. Is Jeff Crank, Jeff Hurd,
Lauren Bobert, Gabe Evans like thosefour need to chat and talk about
who they think they would be comfortablewith in the chairman in the leadership position,

(01:23:53):
because let's remind people, the roleof the Colorado GOP chairman is to
raise money and get Republicans elected.That's essentially, that's that. And then
I also think that the uh Paulandineand Rose Puglici may be part of that
conversation. And there's the leadership ofthe legislature right now exactly, and and

(01:24:14):
so it's time for and those andthat, by the way, is a
group of people who are are alot they they represent a lot of different
parts of the Republican Party, youknow, and the and I think that
the if they can come together andsay here's a person which we can get
behind, here's a person who canlead us moving forward. I think it's

(01:24:35):
somebody that needs to understand the properrole of the party, which is the
statutory nomination of candidates and not embarrassingus on media. Somebody who can get
good faith back from the donors whosemoney has essentially just been wasted and or

(01:24:55):
I would argue, stolen for hisown political aspirations. And that needs to
happen almost immediately. And by theway, in my mind, everyone who
was complicit or apologetic for what washappening and watched what was happening need to
also go. So I don't disagreewith anything you just said. But but

(01:25:16):
and I'm going to play I'm goingto play a little post civil war or
gaming here, right. So we'vebeen talking a lot about the fact that
David Williams has run a lot ofpeople out of the party correct like and
by design, right if he ranup against him, and we saw the
way he's responded to some of thelegitimate attacks on him by essentially saying,

(01:25:38):
oh, oh you like pride,oh you like gay people. I mean,
it's been really juvenile and just pretendingit's not happening, Like, don't
forget Marshall. Zellinger showed up atthe Capitol Club and said, Hey,
what about the fact that the stateParty is spending money on your race?
And he was like, that's nothappening. And then that's a no.
And then the next day the StateParty puts out the f he see things

(01:26:00):
saying that they spent nineteen thousand dollars. By the way, the limit is
twenty And I will tell you,as somebody who has been in politics for
a really long time, five mailersfor yourself a little bit more than twenty
k. Yeah, one round ofmailers can be that much more than twenty
k what I put. I didone round restoring Sandrads did one round of

(01:26:20):
mail and it was thirty five thirtysix. So you think it's fudging the
numbers? Oh, I cannot waitto get a forensic accountant in there to
see exactly what's I think we add? Do you? How do you?
And this is the thing I wantto know. Yeah, because there are
there are good people who have been, in my mind, swept into the

(01:26:45):
Trump culture personality at a level thatmade them blindly support Dave Williams because he
said let's go Brandon and presented himselfas this trumpy guy. And we need
those people. We need them tocome back into the fold one hundred percent.
We need people who are moderate tostep up in the party and say
we want to make sure our voicesare being heard too. Yeah. Well,
And that's the thing, Mandy,is that I I think that there

(01:27:09):
are a lot of trumpy people ofgood faith. I think there are tons
of them, and I think thatwe need to not just embrace them,
but we need to have uh welike that's that's who needs to be turned
out if you're a Republican, yeah, right. And for me with restoring
standards, what I'm interested in rightnow is elevating all of politics, right,

(01:27:29):
I'm interested in like, like therehas been not to get too nerdy,
but I'm going to get nerdy fora second. Like you know game
theory, right, Yeah, you'veheard of the prisoner's dilemma, right,
right, which is and I thinkactually many of the forces behind the prisoner's
dilemma can be extrapolated into the variousparties strategies to depress the other party in

(01:27:54):
order to prisoner's dilemma so people thatdon't undertand what it is, we can
bring them along. Okay, Sothe one of the most if you study
game theory, one of the mostbasic games is called the prisoner's dilemma,
which is you and your friend arearrested. Right, you and I get
arrested. Actually, yes, thisis this is something that's going to happen

(01:28:15):
in the future. So we aregaming this out in this moment. Right.
So let's say that the cops comeinto you. If you rap me
out and I don't get ratted out, you get off and I get all
of the jail time. Right.If they come into me and I rat
you out but you don't wrap meout, you get all the jail time.

(01:28:40):
If neither of us rats each otherout, neither of us go to
jail. And if we both rateach other out, then we both go
to jail. Right. And soI look at the parties similarly, right,
Like, Democrats are looking at Republicansand they're like, let's help nominate
the worst can and they spent bigon Ron Hanks. They did. And

(01:29:04):
Republicans in the past have looked atfor instance, a Hernandez or an EPs
and thought we could not just wecould beat them, but like they are
so bad for the Democrat brand thatwe should help elevate them out of their
primary because, as we've talked aboutmany times on the show, both parties

(01:29:28):
get painted with the worst actors oftheir respective groups, right, and so
from a Republican perspective or from aDemocrat perspective, it's actually better to have
worse people on the other side.And my hope is that what we saw
in that congressional race with Ron Hanksand Jeff Hurd, that like we are
finally getting to a point where we'relooking at these incentives, and the incentive

(01:29:50):
that was sent to Democrats hopefully isstop trying to nominate the weakest candidate,
because sometimes you accidentally do and thenthey get into off or it blows back
on you and everybody finds out thatyou're trying to game the system, and
then Ron Hanks loses. Do youknow who else lost big in this last
election cycle? That I'm super happyabout Gun Owners of America and philosophically I

(01:30:14):
agree with what they are doing,but I don't like Dudley Brown. I
don't like him. I like TaylorRhodes, who is running Rocky Mountain gun
owners now. But Taylor said,We're not meddling in elections anymore, because
I'm not gonna send my listeners todonate money to them if they're going to
use it in the attack ads thatthey used it, they got their asses
kicked this time. I mean,I mean, and this is the thing

(01:30:36):
I am noticing more and more thatwhat we saw on Tuesday was people voters
saying, people of bad faith,Yeah, you are not allowed to do
this anymore. And I think thatis so good and I feel so great
about it because I think that that'ssomething from which we can build well and

(01:30:56):
that this is like this this electionin Colorado, it did feel and I
realized that in some of the especiallydemocratic primaries, it was it was you
have two progressives and then but onewas, you know, way harder to
the left. So you still havea progressive you know, representative or whatever.
And if you depending on where youlive, that's going to be your

(01:31:17):
lot in life, just like ifthere's a progressive living in Douglas County,
sorry about your luck, right,you know you. But across the board,
people did seem to go, youknow what, I want someone who
seems reasonable, reasonable like they're gonnago and they're gonna worry about solving problems
instead of dropping firebombs or building abrand or any of those things that are

(01:31:40):
unseerious and and sort of the wayour primary system incentivizes that kind of behavior
is one of the reasons that Iam looking at ranked choice voting and going
hmm, kind of interesting this primarymore than any that would have been a
really interesting situation because we had somany uncontested primaries. Yeah, isn't it.
What do you think about that?That we just we have so many

(01:32:01):
districts where either only one person stepsup to run or the other party just
decides not to run anyone. Ijust feel like that is a huge problem
that we're not talking about. Well, and you know, fundamentally there is
and this is this is the thingthat we we all keep talking about,
right is there's there's these organizations severalin Colorado that are looking at the rules

(01:32:24):
of the game, right and andwhether they're talking about how we do the
business of the nomination of candidates,how we do the business of voting,
how we do all of these differentthings and that and what I saw ultimately
was like a real big vacuum wherewe have to look at the rules of

(01:32:44):
the game, but we also haveto look at the players, right,
we have to start to put standardsaround what is good faith, what is
bad faith? What is a goodperson, what is a bad person?
And so I would argue that,for for instance, Chef Crank and and
Dave Williams, that was just clearand obvious, right, right, Like
that was an obvious Here's a dudeof bad faith in Dave Williams. He

(01:33:10):
is a self dealer, he istaking the resources of the party. And
here is Jeff Crank, happy warrior, wants to build understands why he's a
conservative and is just he's just agreat guy. And the juxtaposition couldn't have
been clearer. But for all ofColorado's regardless of your party, but especially

(01:33:33):
unaffiliated voters, we should now bein a situation where we are demanding both
parties get better. Right, Andso that's one of the criticisms. I'm
a Republican, and so when Italk to people about kind of what the
vision is of restoring standards, whatI want to do with it, they
say, oh, well, won'tthat make Democrats better? Yes, it

(01:33:56):
will. It will make Democrats better. It will also make Republicans is better.
And my case to Democrats right now, especially just like semi normy Democrats
who are super concerned about what's happeningon their side of the aisle, like
they are better served to have aRepublican party that is a viable, that
is good, that understands the underpinningsof our philosophy yep, and that is

(01:34:24):
gravitational towards people, because what wehave right now is just like widespread and
deep disgusted with the entire political spectrumand everyone associated with it. And that
is and that's why you know,both political parties, they're not exactly blazing
a trail bringing new people to theparties, so they're both losing party membership

(01:34:47):
to the independent or unaffiliated part ofthe thing. It has to be concerning,
Yes, it's deeply concerning. Andthat is why, by the way,
I think that that a vibrant anda viable Republican party is critical.
And that's that's why I'm looking atthat. I want I want a Republican
party that is successful. I alsowant a Democrat party that is successful because

(01:35:12):
if we continue to do this thingwhere we are winning to the detriment of
others, right, like like weare winning and by depressing the other side,
right, rather than looking for atotal annihilation victory, instead of the
victory where we get some of whatwe want, they get some of what
we want. And it's good forthe state. Yes, And you know,

(01:35:32):
it's funny because I now look backat the last twenty years I've had
in politics and then and then whyI got so disgusted with it, tried
to walk away and go hide withmy goats, and now why I'm bad
right, It's it's such an interestingplace to be because I loved politics for
so long, and I got tothe point that I got ashamed of telling
people what I did, Like Igot embarrassed. I would take my children

(01:35:55):
to school and the other moms wouldask me what I did, and I
was like, oh, you knows, maybe actually talking about goats at dinner
parties is so much more fun thantalking about politics. But I will say
so, I'm taking a fundraising masterclass. I'm a terrible fundraiser. I get
like, I get creeped out askingpeople for money, which is why I'm

(01:36:18):
trying. I'm in this right seasonof trying new things and trying to fill
in the gaps and things that Ihave shortcomings. And so I'm taking this
fundraising master class from my friend Angela. She's an amazing fundraiser. She fundraises
for the National Western Right. Likeshe's unbelievable. And somehow I snuck my
way into this class of like reallygood, top level Denver fundraisers and I

(01:36:40):
watched it and I'm like, Hi, my name is Kelly. I am
learning how to fundraise because I startedan organization to get crazy people out of
politics. And I watched all ofthese faces and they were like yeah,
yeah, and they we're gonna dothe day you're staying for of the day,
right, Okay, yeah, She'slike she'll be fine. The point

(01:37:01):
of it is is nobody wants tobe associated with the worst elements. Nobody
wants to say I'm a Democrat andpeople think of AOC, and nobody wants
to say I'm a Republican and peoplethink of MTG right. Right, So
getting the crazy out of politics isa great idea. And I put a
link to Kelly's super pac and herfive O one four if you want to
just check them out, figure outa way to support them, or at

(01:37:24):
least sign up for do you havea newsletter? You have anything, I'll
make one, okay, newsletter rightnow, but now it's nothing else.
Away, You're fine, it's good. All's fine, it's good. It's
fine. And now it's time forthe most exciting segment on the radio of
its kind of Oh, let metry that again. And now it's time
for the most exciting segment on theradio on It's kine me or you day.

(01:37:54):
All right. I wanted you todo it just to see how fast
you responded right away. You werelike you were like a rod on the
spot. Okay, one more time, very quickly. Tonight at six,
tune in here to hear me Roskinskiand Benjamin Albright do a pre game leading
up to the debate. Then wemove it over to koa's Facebook page for
the KOA cast is like Mystery ScienceTheater for Mystery Science Theater three thousand for

(01:38:15):
the debate. I'm tired because Iyacht rocked too hard last night. And
then we're gonna do a reaction showafter the debate is over. So it's
gonna be fun today, all right, What is our dad joke of the
day. I should have never glueda piranha to my boomerang. I know
it's gonna come back and bite me. Thank God. Today's word of the
day it is a adjective adjective fooddroyant what f o U d r Oh?

(01:38:45):
It was something actually brilliant, foodbased. I was excited for a
second food Dan. I'm gonna sayit's a it's something that keeps you from
smelling bad. Okay, got food? Uh, I'm gonna say, is
not food that floats? Yeah?Hello, that would be a good one.
I'm gonna say something that makes youmore colorful, as reasonable as anything

(01:39:14):
else and overwhelming and effect aka stunningor dazzling. Oh. Then, and
today's trivia bandy is Yes, Iam in geometry. What is a ray?
Isn't that what you draw on agraph? Yeah? So it isn't
that. It it's a yeah witha with the and it goes in one
direction and then it's got an arrowat then in a straight line that has

(01:39:34):
one end point and ends infinitively infinitiveinfinitely infinitely. All right, what's our
Jeopardy category? Well, for tonightthey took debate. All right, Kelly,
you have to yell out your nameif you want to answer the question,
and don't wait till the end,because it's the blood sport. Okay,
so I know it. Yell outyour name, okay, and then
answer the form of a question.Go right ahead. This league has sponsored

(01:39:57):
many political debates, including what isthe lead of women voters? That is
correct? I didn't give any detailsyet. League is eighteen fifty eight Abraham
Lincoln and Stephen Douglas Kelly Lincoln Douglasdebates what is what is the Lincoln?
Yeah? Okay, Well that isa series of debates over who should be
senator from this state? Manny,what is Illinois? That is correct?

(01:40:20):
That's the risk you take. Innineteen ninety three, Vice President Al Gore
and Ross Perrot appealed appeared on LarryKing to debate this trade packed Mandy,
what is NAFTA? That is correct? That's we're being a little bit older
than you. Comes in handy inthe late Potatoes. In the late nineteen
seventies, conservative columnist James Kilpatrick debatedliberal journalist SHAWNA. Alexander on this TV

(01:40:45):
show, Mandy, what's crossfire?Wrong? Well? No, no,
no, not right? Okay.The seventies, Oh, I know what
it is, yeah, late seventies, eight seventies. It is sixty minutes,
Senator, you're no. Jack Kennedywas equipped from this famous nineteen eighty
eight debate between these two Kelly,go ahead, Richard Nixon? Who is

(01:41:10):
Richard? Famous eighty eight debate betweenthese two men? It was uh Dan
Quail and and uh who was theLloyd Vincent? That was hard? Okay,
okay, guys, we're gonna beback tonight at six pm. I
sure hope you can tune in forit. It's gonna be a blast.

(01:41:32):
And then we'll be back tomorrow witha full wrap up show. So get
your limericks about the debate ready.We're gonna have a limerick contest tomorrow.
Why not. Oh my gosh,that's gonna get you an FCC five exactly.
We'll be back. Keep it righthere, kay wait, Sports coming up next

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