07-01-24 FULL SHOW - A Whole Bunch of New Laws Start Today, and GAG Checks In

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com. Now throughout the show today, feel free to text us on the
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to wait in that way. Wegot a lot of big, big stuff
to talk about today, and notthe least of which is the Supreme Court's
ruling yet or this morning, thata president enjoys some immunity. It depends

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on whether or not that president isacting in an official or unofficial capacity.
This is a This is really theperfect outcome for Donald Trump, is that
the Supreme Court decided that presidents enjoycomplete immunity. But that would have been
insane. I mean, if apresident orders the murder of a political rival,

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then yeah, we can't allow thatto go unchecked. But what the
Supreme Court tried to do with thisruling, and I agree I heard Ross
talking about it earlier, and Iam very much in agreeance with Ross that
the Supreme Court did the best thingthat it could do, which is to
try and protect the presidency going forward. And if you take Donald Trump out

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of this question, because he issuch a polarizing figure, if you just
take him out of the question aboutwhether or not presidents should expect and receive
immunity for the actions of their intheir official capacity, then it gets really
easy to make that argument. Andthat argument is and I'm going to use
an example that I thought of onthe way here. Let's just say that

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an illegal immigrant flows across the southernborder and murders someone. Let's just say
this happens if Biden is out ofoffice. Let's just say it doesn't even
matter who's in office after him.But let's just say Biden's out of office,
and whoever's in office then decides thatthey are going to punish Biden for
allowing so many illegal immigrants to flowover the southern border, and they decide

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to charge him with some kind ofcrime related to not executing his duties,
treason, whatever you want to callit. That would be an endless cycle,
an endless cycle, and no presidentwould ever be able to act without
expecting some kind of repercussion from apolitical foe. So in doing what they
did, the Supreme Court said,look, and this is of course a

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gross oversimplification because I specialize in those. The Supreme Court said, look,
during the official duties of the president, the president must be able to rely
on immunity from prosecution while while takingcare of his official business. And I'm

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just going to say his, eventhough it could be his or her because
it's two words. But someday therewill be a female president. I hope
I'm alive for it. I'm startingto lose faith. But in any case,
a president has to be able toact and make decisions based on the
best information at that time without havingto worry about, well, is someone
else can to figure out a wayin the future to make this a crime.

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You can't rule that way. Youcan't. You can't be president that
way and make the kind of decisionsthat the president has to make on a
daily basis and have that worry inthe back of your mind. This is
one of the reasons that we haveso many issues. I think in the
medical community. One of the reasonsmedical care is so expensive is that a

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vast majority of doctors, out ofnecessity, practice defensive medicine, meaning they
can't just order someone to have atest or order something. They have to
be able to defend it in acourt of law, and so it usually
ends up with a bunch of unnecessarytests that prove that the doctor was doing
everything on the up and up incase they get sued later. We cannot

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have a presidenting this way. Itis unwieldy. Now, what the Supreme
Court did not do, and Ithink this was a very wise move.
They did not delineate what was officialand what is unofficial. That is what
they kicked back to the lower court. So now Jack Smith and his people
are going to have to make theargument that everything that Trump did was an

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unofficial part of his job, whereasTrump is going to make the argument that
ensuring election integrity is a part ofhis job. Right that that should be
kind of a big deal to thepresident. That being said, I think
that this is the best possible outcomefor Donald Trump in this way, a

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full immunity, a grand of Fueldimmunity, would be the best possible outcome
for him. But it would bebad for the United States of America to
tell anyone going into the White Houseyou can do whatever you want and there
are never any repercussion. That's adangerous position to have. So now they're
going to have the ability to arguewhat he was doing was under his official
capacity, and the lower courts aregoing to have to sort out without taking

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his motive into account. And thisis the kicker. This is the kicker.
This is the one that I thinkis the deathnell for this standard,
and that is you cannot take someone'smotive into account when they are exercising their
official duties. You can't do that. What were they acting in official capacity?

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Yes or no? If the answeris yes, then they have immunity
for what happened at that point.So what the Supreme Court did and we
already have I don't know if it'sa SoundBite or a comment from Diana to
get this is so dangerous. No, it's not dangerous. Now the lower
court can decide whether or not thepresident was acting officially or unofficially, and
then they can decide what to dowith this case. The Supreme Court should

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not be sort of laying out allof the details. What happens in these
decisions is that a decision is made, and then lower courts will put the
bones on the or those are thebones of the decision, right, And
then the lower courts will put themeet on the bones of the decision.
They will work within the frameworks sentby the Supreme Court, but those decisions

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will be sort of, you know, create the structure under which this decision
is seen. So it was aIt's obviously very consequential because it is essentially
stopped any further prosecution of Donald Trumpbefore the election. So and if he
wins, he can simply fire thepeople in the DOJ who made this thing

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happen and say we're going to makethat go away. And I'm not gonna
lie. I would do that ifI thought I was being politically persecuted,
and if I thought that the onlyreason I was being prosecuted is because my
political opponent was in charge of theDepartment of Justice, there's no doubt in
my mind, I would get ridof that right away. And over the
weekend, I came up with atheory, you guys, I came up

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with a theory. The theory isthat the reason that the Democrats put forth
a clearly adduled Joe Biden was tocreate the kind of firestorm that we are
now seeing around whether or not JoeBiden should continue. And I think that

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the Democrats looked at the lay ofthe land, and I think this all
this decision making started in earnest atthe G seven disaster. Because now Wall
Street Journal has a story out todayabout what really happened at the G seven
and about how world leaders were worriedabout Joe Biden. We're going to get
into this a little bit later inthe show. But the Democrats have decided

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that Joe Biden is going to bethe sacrificial lamb, right, He's going
to be the sacrificial lamb. He'sgoing to lose this election. But they've
already demonstrated from twenty sixteen to twentytwenty exactly their strategy to torpedo a second
Donald Trump administration. They are goingto accuse him of everything, even if
it's based on total garbage, justlike they did in twenty sixteen. And

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they are gonna keep accusing and keepaccusing, and keep accusing and basically steiny
any sort of political agenda and anysort of political process, and then they're
going to get a decent Democrat torun in twenty twenty four, and they're
going to take back the White Houseand all will be well in the world
again. That is what I thinkis at play right now, which is
why I have a story from theWall Street Journal and we're gonna, like

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I said, we're gonna get intoit a little bit later, but it
is not flattering about the President ofthe United States. We had a story
come out last week that aids tothe president have said, and this is
supposed to reassure us. Allegedly,aids have come out and said, Oh,
the president is amazing. From tenam to four pm, A Rod

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just burst out laughing. Did younot see that last week? A Rod?
Oh yeah. They literally said thathe's he's sharp, he's with it,
he's all together there from ten amto four p m. And nothing
helps, Nothing else happens in theworld out of time. So six pm,
you're screwed. If anything else,God forbid, we get attacked at
nine thirty pm because no one's noone's how many hours? Six? Okay,

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so eighteen hours? Who's running thecountry? Well, and this leads
me to my second question, Andthis is what I've decided. I am
going to just ask people who say, oh, I'm voting for Biden,
and I'm gonna saying, oh,who are you really voting for? Because
do you really think if you're votingfor Joe Biden, he's running the country.
He might be running it from tenam to four pm, But what

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about the other eighteen hours of theday, who are you really voting for?
If you're voting for Joe Biden,who is running the country. Now,
these are all valid questions, Andnow that the media has decided they're
going to stop covering for him,and this is what's so absurd that all

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of these left wing commentators. Idipped into MSNBC once this weekend just to
see if they were still gnashing theirteeth, and oh boy, are they
still gnashing their teeth? And Isaw one of their people actually say,
well, this was just such ashock, and I was like, really,
really, it's a shock to youbecause the rest of the world has

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been watching this happen in real time, like a slow motion train rack.
But now all of these pundits arelike, this is just shocking. I
can't believe it. And what they'retrying to do is they're trying to make
you believe that this is all new. Oh my gosh, this just happened.
It just happened. We had noidea, which is an abject lie,

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abject lie. So now you havethe Supreme Court completely taking one set
of things. Actually, the SupremeCourt in the last week took two big,
big, big chunks out of oneof Jack Smith's cases against Donald Trump,
and that is the case that wherethey were using a obstruction of preceding

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law to put people in jail forJanuary sixth. The Supreme Court said,
sorry, can't do that. You'reinterpreting that law wrong. It doesn't mean
that. And those were some ofthe charges levied at Donald Trump by Jack
Smith. And now he can't evenget it to trial before the election.
So their whole strategy of making surethat he just was spending time defending himself

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rather than being able to campaign hasnot worked. And I'm glad the American
people are going to have the abilityto decide this race. And this race,
and I say this every election cycle, but I think this cycle,
I actually mean it. Has thereever been two candidates that people hate more

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than these two now not the samepeople, although some people hate them both.
This is truly an ointment or suppositorieselection situation. Who is running the
country now, asks this Texter.Well, right now, it's two nineteen
in Washington, so Joe is runningthe country. Weren't you listening? Of
course, of course lots of Texterssaying some variation of this. The media

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was complicit. They absolutely knew.And not only that, you guys,
not only did the media know,you know who else knows Joe Biden's family.
Now, Aron, if your dadgot up in front of fifty million
people and had a performance like hehad the other night, at the debate,
would you encourage him to stay inthis race? Well, you know,

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if you answered all the questions anddo all the facts, okay,
doctor Jill. No, you're notsaying it right. This is how doctor
Jill. Joe, you did sogreat, you answered oh the questions,
you were so good, and Trumpdo she okay? So apparently this weekend.

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This weekend, the Biden family gatheredat Camp David. Now, if
they were a normal family who weren'tactively grifting off of him being president,
they would have said, you knowwhat, Dad, Grandpa, sweetheart,
it's time to step down for thegood of the country. But not the
Biden family. Doctor Jill loves beingfirst Lady Hunter. Biden probably doesn't have

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a real job unless he can drophis dad's name. His brother James has
been grifting off the family business fora long time. So of course they're
like, Joe, you still gotit. We'll just make sure the next
debates during brunch. I'm telling you, brunch debate is gonna be pitched camp
that. Jill's like really mean behindthe scenes, like after the debate,
going into that next event where thatnext day he was really good. She's

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like Joe Honey, if you everperformed that badly, John, you're never
getting putting. I don't embarrass me. Joe. I'm not going to say
it is happening, but I'm notgoing to say it's not happening. Okay,
just throwing that out there. Youwill be punished, Yes, it
will be no more chocolate chip icecream. You will not get your nap

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for a week. Then you're gonnabe even worse. Cannot do it.
I'm on to you, Joe,I'm watching you, Mandy this Texters said.
The Democrats may be upset with today'sruling on immunity, but it also
prevents a Trump administration from going afterJoey Biden for crimes committed like going after
political opponents. Now, the realissue with Joe Biden, if there was

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really a significant issue that needed tobe looked at, that still could be
looked at, and that is hisdealings with his son and ten percent for
the big guy. And there's nosmoking gun there or the January sixth committee
would have found it, not theone that was. No. Let me
take that back, James Comer's committeewould have found it. I still think

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it happened, by the way,I one hundred percent think it happened.
You don't operate like this family operates, setting up Shell Corporation and Shell Corporation
and shell Corporation to bounce money between. If you don't know that, you're
not doing something shady as hell.And that's how they structure their entire business,
Shell Corporation, shell Corporation, shellCorporation, shoveling money from one to

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the other. And now the factthat they are still telling this man who
is clearly beyond you know scope,he is going to need to stay in
the race. They don't want togive up the power, and they care
about that more than they care aboutJoe Biden. That's the reality. Anyway,

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We're gonna do a quick time out, you know what I'm gonna do
On the other side of this break, I'm gonna share some of the Wall
Street Journal article that is the firstbig expose. I fully expect more and
more and more and more of thisto continue to come out as the media
and the Democratic machine are trying toget Joe Biden to step down. I
don't think he will. We'll talkabout that next. I want to share

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a Wall Street Journal article with youthat came out a couple of days ago.
So it came out on Saturday,and the headline in this Wall Street
Journal article the world saw Biden deteriorating. Democrats ignored the warnings. European officials
express worries about Biden's focus and staminabefore Thursday's debate. I'm just going to

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share some of this with you.The loudest public alarm about Joe Biden's mental
acuity came in February with the releaseof Special Counsel Robert Hurr's Report, a
document he produced after spending five hoursinterviewing the President that revealed Biden displayed significant
memory problems. Democrats worried, thenmost of them followed the President's league and

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dismissed it as partisan hackery. Biden'sclosest advisors defiantly beat back suggestions that the
eighty one year old president showed signsof decline. Into Thursday Night's presidential debate,
the concerns began gushing into the open, yet they had already become increasingly
apparent in Washington's corridors of power andacross the world for months. In interviews,

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top officials abroad and Democrats said theyhave witnessed other moments when Biden's behavior
concerned them. Some were quickly relievedwhen Biden appeared to regain his footing.
Others were left shaken by the experiences. European officials had already been expressing worries
in private about Biden's focus and staminabefore Thursday's debate, with some senior diplomats

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saying they had tracked a noticeable deteriorationin the president's faculties in meetings since last
summer. There were real doubts abouthow Biden could successfully manage a second term,
but one senior European diplomat said USadministration officials in private discussions denied there
was any problem. The White Housedisputed the characterization that Biden has stumbled on

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the world stage. National Security Councilspokeswoman Adrian Watson said foreign leaders see Joe
Biden up close and personal. Theyknow who they are dealing with, how
effective he has been, and howimportant his leadership is on the world stage.
Diplomats described Biden's performance at the Groupof Seven summit in Italy in mid

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June as mixed, with Biden appearingphysically frailer than in past but alert in
many of the most important discussions.Biden missed the summit's dinner party in a
medieval castle, an off camera andless scripted part of the summit in which
leaders often exchange views more candidly.He was the only G seven leader not
to attend the meal. The WhiteHouse told reporters in advance he wouldn't be

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there because it would be a quotejam packed two days of meetings, Biden
instead held an event with Ukrainian PresidentVoldemort Zelenski and had a news conference the
next day. Biden followed through onhis lands to forego a Swiss peace summit
on Ukraine to attend a California fundraiserinstead, frustrating Ukrainian officials who had organized

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the conference in Switzerland directly after theG seven and the hope that Biden would
come from Italy. Top White Houseofficials disputed any portrait of a president slipping.
During his European trip, which includedtwelve hour days truck full of meetings,
he didn't miss a beat, saidDahlip Singh, the Deputy National Security
Advisor for International Economics, who participatedin meetings with Biden. Singh said that

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there's been no change to the forcefuland substantive rigor that Biden brings to meetings
with foreign leaders except yeah. Officialssaid that Biden's performance and focus can vary
significantly between meetings and even within ameeting. Two senior European officials cited an
EU US summit in October in Washington, at which Biden struggled to follow the

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discussions. Both said he stumbled overhis talking points at several moments, requiring
Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln to interveneand point out the lines he should use.
I saw none of that, saidMark Geddenstein, US Ambassador to the
European Union, who attended the meeting. He said Blinken intervened just to help

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Biden find a tab for a documentin a large notebook. He also said
that during the meeting, Biden wasdiscussing the release of hostages held by Hamas,
which drew his attention. For partof the meeting, he was whispering
to them getting signs, said,referring to AIDS, and he got an
answer and was pleased with the results. Then he turned around and announced that
hostages were released. That was themain thing that happened. Now here's the

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problem, and I'm jumping ahead worriesin Europe. The reading in Europe is
that this has been an unmitigated disaster, said Natalie Tocci, director of the
Institute of International Affairs in Rome anda former advisor to the EU Foreign Affairs
chiefs, referring to attempts to reassurevoters about his age. European officials and

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prominent commentators, she added, havebeen talking about it. It's something that
has been known always that his ageis his main achilles heel. In the
hours after Thursday's debate, Polish PrimeMinister Donald Tusk told reporters that the Democrats
have a problem. He said,I was afraid of this. It was
to be expected that in a directconfrontation in a debate, it would not

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be easy for the president. He'sknown Biden for years. By the way,
As what he thought of proposals toreplace Biden with another candidate, he
said, they definitely have a problem. The reactions have been unambiguous, and
then it goes on to talk aboutvarious ways that he flubbed things during meetings

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at the G seven that then theyhad to go back and clarify. And
what's interesting is that people on theleft who only consume left wing media who
don't consume anything outside that bubble aregenuinely shocked by how the president performed,
and they really believe that it wasjust because he has a cold. And

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I think to myself, it takesa special kind of delusion to be unable
to see who the candidate that youare behind actually is. And the other
thing, you know, what,can I say one more thing about the
debate and then we're going to moveon to other stuff in the next segment,
because we've got a bunch of stuffon the blog. It is getting

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super frustrating listening to Democrats talking abouthow Donald Trump lied and Joe Biden is
just this paragon of truth and virtue, ignoring the fact that he was bounced
out of a prior presidential campaign becausehe plagiarized, ignoring the fact that he
makes up stuff about his past ona regular basis, They ignore the fact

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that at at the least he's afabuloust At least, I mean, he's
who is the guy, George What'sthe guy who just got bounced out of
office in New York for lying abouteverything? George Santos. He's like the
Democratic version of George Santos. Butwhen he used to spin all of his
lives all the time, nobody paidattention because he was just Joe Biden from
Delaware, a state that doesn't matter. But now he walks around making stuff

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up, and the Democrats are like, look at what a principled many is
up against that liar. Oh yeah, yay, fire one more of those
things. I'm gonna be like,you know what, I'm gonna call Cornpop
and tell him come kick your ass. That's what's gonna happen. Jack.
Anyway, I'd urge you if youhave a Wall Street Journal account, you

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can read the entire article, whichis about another half of what I read.
But you know what's dropped out ofthe news cycle. Do you know
what has completely been eliminated from thepublic lexicon since the debate? The term
cheap fakes. Remember when all ofus we're seeing Biden falling apart at the

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seams and appearing to be ancient,we were told that was just cheap fakes,
taken out of context. We didn'tknow what our own eyes were showing
us. Nope, we're just suckersbeing sucked in by cheap fakes. Have
you heard the word one single timesince the debate, one single time now

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because now they can't deny it.What they're calling cheap fakes is the reality
of a president in decline. Myentire life has been a lie. If
this is accurate. The doorstop video, Now, you know how when you
open a door in your house youhave the little and I've always I know
this is going to be hard tofollow, along with the little twenty thing

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behind the door that keeps your doorhandle from smashing into your drywall. Apparently
on TikTok they're saying that that isto be used as a door stop because
you're supposed to put it down andpull the door back, and it's supposed
to hold the door in place.This seems like you should be more common

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knowledge if that's actually how they areintended to work. Don't you think have
you ever seen this before in yourlife? A rod? No, and
I need to try it a sap. Do we have any doors with door
stops? No? We do notit. I wonder if anybody of your
listening audience has ever done this.Someone needs It's like magic. Is it
useful? Well, it's useful forpets like puppies love to play with the

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twangy thingy kids love to play withthe queue. When she was really little,
would sit there and just bwing,wing, wing wing for hours.
And who am I to stop atoddler who's occupied herself with something completely hard
and harmless, right, I mean, you know, knock yourself out there,
kiddo, knock yourself out. Butthis is one of those things where
I feel like maybe somebody did it. I just feel like there's downside we're
missing on the doorstop situation just doesn'tseem like it should be that easy.

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So if you can watch that andthen text us on the KOA Common Spirit
health text line, I've determined thatTikTok is really most valuable telling you things
like that that you would have neverknown before. So I just that's really
all it's good for. You knowthat in cute dog videos. I guess

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maybe got a lot of people weighingin on the text line about Biden in
the situation there, Mandy, I'mreally concerned that we're losing perspective here.
I don't want Biden to lose becausehe's too old or confused. I want
him to lose based on policy,and I think that's what we really need
to acknowledge, keep hammering that Trump'spolicies are ready for the country. And

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if you heard, we had someof Trump's rally on Friday and he said,
Joe Biden is not incompetent because he'sold. Joe Biden is just in
compet it. That's essentially what hesaid. That's what you're saying is people
want him to remain on the ballotand let voters decide. I mean,
I'm okay with you before I'm okaywith that. We all know. We

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all know Biden's debate was just acheap fake, except no one's calling it
a cheap fake because that those wordshave now fallen out of favor completely.
Biden said in the debate that inflationwas at nine percent when he came into
office. That's a flat out lie. But see when Biden lies, it's
just, oh, it's just Joe. It's just Joe. It's just no
need to fact check me. He'sjust an elderly man with a bad memory.

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So you know it's fine, Yes, yes it is. Mandy Biden
plagiarized, lied about his law schoolstanding, lied saying at three degrees and
others. What bothers me the mostis the Biden team now blames his staff
for the deplorable bit debate performance.My god, you would think the president
of the US would be smart enoughto know how to prepare himself. I

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agree that any sort of blame shiftingis ridiculous and really absurd, because Joe
Biden is President of the United Statesof America. He should have been able
to do that debate without five daysof being holed up at Camp David to
prepare, and aids can only doso much for a man who doesn't function

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well after four pm. Mandy,I don't think it's true. I've seen
versions of the doorstop that are rigid. Was no spring, that's a good
point. Recently, I would saythat's it. Didn't see it on TikTok,
but a girlfriend learned me this afew years ago. So I guess
if you have the spring based doorstopper, which the video has the spring based

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door stopper, you could do it. But if you have one of the
straight normal ones, you can't bendit down. You could pull it out
of the wall and then it's useless. CNN cheap, fake non network,
y'all. CNN is in a tailspinright now with this. They really don't
know what to do. Over theweekend. By the way, the New
York Times published in editorials saying it'stime to step down. The Atlantic published

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some stuff saying it's time to stepdown. The Economists published stuff saying it's
time to step down. So they'reall in a panic because their guy is
falling apart. The guy they've beencovering for for all these years is now
undeniably not able to do this job. And they're all panicking because they want
somebody that they can support and protectthroughout the election, because God forbid,

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they should have to cover it fairly, right, I mean, come on,
this person says doesn't work. Ourstoppers are too short. So what
you're saying, Texter is that sizedoes matter. When we get back my
friend Rich Guggenheim from Kays against Groomer'scoming up next, The Mandy Connell Show
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Connell Man nine stem the nicety AndyTorontal keeping sad thing. Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to the second hour of theshow. I'm your host, Mandy

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Connell, and of course I'm joinedby Anthony Rodriguez on the other side of
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I have help, I have help, and she's fantastic. I'll have to
introduce you sometime to her. Bringher on. Her name is Gina,

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and she and her wife have someteenage daughters that are involved in sports,
and so this is an near anddear issue to her. I would guess
let's start with an update of whereyou are with the ballot initiative signature gathering
process, because on the blog todayI have an article linked that has I
mean, there's like twenty ballot initiativesright now. Seven of them are not

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going to be done because John Calderahas come out and said we're not spending
money on this. We'll talk aboutthat later in the show. But you've
got two ballot initiatives that you're workingon, one to protect women's sports and
one that would do something that shouldn'tneed to be done by you know,
legal edicts, but that is itwould force schools to inform parents when their
child expresses gender discomfort or dysphoria orwants to use different pronouns. Just bring

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the parents in the loop, right, And part of that is in Colorado,
a child that's over the age oftwelve can receive wrap around services,
including medical services, to affirm theirgender identity in school, and the school
does not have to inform the parents, so the parents don't have to give
consent for their child transition at school. Absolutely insanity. I mean, I

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just I can't even believe that we'reeven having that conversation. I can't either,
but it's Colorado. Yeah, becauseI'm guessing that they if the child
ends up with a suicide attempt orwhatever after that, then the school has
no responsibility for that. I'm justprobably. You know that suicide rates increase
twelve twelvefold after child transitions. Sowhen they're telling you, oh, we

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got to transition this child because wouldyou rather have a trans child or a
dead child, they are absolutely gaslightingyou. The science and the facts do
not back up well. The castreview out of the UK has been really
illuminating and it has been fascinating towatch the people in the trans movement do
everything they can to discredit the authorof the Cast Review as a longtime pediatrician

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who actually did gender affirming care atone point. They have tried to deny
all of the realities that are inthat report without actually giving good science.
On the other side, they can'trebut the actual findings of the Cast Review,
which is that a vast majority ofchildren that experienced gender dye for you,
if they are just left alone anda half percent, yeah, they

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eventually come to terms with their owngender, which is which is the ideal
way, because the other way,the transitioning makes you a lifelong medical patient.
It does well. And that thatright there, I think is why
we're seeing the tide shift in Europebecause they have the nationalized medical model right
and here in the United States,where it's privatized, it's a piece striker

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strikers Rose Foundation, and we cantalk about Rose in just a second.
These medical organizations, the big pharmaindustry, they're the ones that are profiting
off of and they are profiting handily. I mean, like, yes,
you know that I read something manylike three or four years ago that a
trans teenager represents like a million anda half dollars in the lifetime. Yes,

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yeah, yeah, And it's reallyunfortunate because this is one of the
big reasons that I have for this, and this is to me, it
is literally, we're not just prayingon children, We're not just mutilating children.
We're not just sterilizing children and robbingthem of their innocence and destroying their
future. But it is homophobic becausethese are and they're also if we really

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stop to think about it, they'repreying upon vulnerable parents because a parent see
as a child having emotional distress,they're going to do anything they can to
protect their tub. So it's extremelypredatory both against children and against parents.
And I don't understand how we don'tare not waking up to the fact that

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this is what's happening right here inColorado, and we are the tip of
the spear here in Colorado. Well, I will say this. I read
a fascinating article some time ago thatsaid part of the issue with walking ourselves
back from this ledge right with sayingOkay, we've gone too far, we've
made some bad choices, and we'veheard some kids because of it, is
that you now have the parents ofkids who have transitioned, who are the

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biggest advocates because they cannot admit theywere wrong, because admitting they were wrong
meant that they actively participated at harmto their child, and no parents wants
to admit in any way shape,especially a parent that was acting on the
best advice of the medical community atthe time, You know what I mean.
And that's the problem is is themedical community is actively pushing it.
They've written the textbooks in such away that it's not just medical, but

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it's psychological and psychiatric care right pushingthis agenda. And it's not going to
be I think until later on whenwe see those children who were sent to
the chop shop actually sue the medicalpractitioners. And that's happening right now,
and we're seeing more and more ofthat, people that say they were rushed
to transition, they didn't have propertherapy, they should have been given other

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kinds of therapy for the depression ortheir autism a diagnosis, and it's just
it's we're going to look back onthis time with deep shame for what we
did to children. I agree.I agree. Let's talk about where your
initiatives are right now. You're inthe extremely cumbersome petition gathering, the signature

(37:58):
gathering phase. How is that going? It's I think it's going well.
I was just out at that worshipthing they had at the Capitol this weekend.
I got one hundred and two signaturesby myself and we had about eight
other people there gathering signatures also.And you know, I love that we
actually have one member of the socalled media height Beetle you mentioned names.

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Thank you, Sean for all ofmy free advertising you do. So they
did it a story on it,and I you know what, I will
just tell you it is going sowell that a special issues committee has been
organized in Colorado called Protect LGBTQ plusColorado's and I believe it was thirty thousand
dollars has come from the Rose Foundation. So going back to Rose Medical,

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thirty thousand dollars I believe has comefrom out Boulder County. And by the
way, I invited the gentleman fromout Boulder County on the show. He
reached out the last time that youwere on and said, look, rich
name checked us. Oh, we'dlove to have you on. We went
back and forth, you know,gave a couple times and then we went
and then he just stopped responding,oh, well, but I've said I

(39:07):
welcome you on the show to talkabout your feelings about these initiatives. I
welcome you on the show to presentthe other side of the issue. And
I have not heard back. Soif he reaches out again again, I
would love to have him on theshow. Every size of the story,
right, every coin has two sides, right. But ironically, I believe
it was close to sixty thousand dollarsor seventy five thousand dollars is come from

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this organization called Equality Federation Institute,and they are out of Portland, Oregon.
Right. So the fact that thisspecial initiative or a special special group
has been formed to try and defeatthese initiatives and they're bringing in out of
state money is telling you that theythink that we are a serious threat.
And some you know, again,the Colorado PTA has also come out in

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opposition to these initiatives. What yeah, Well, I mean the Colorado PTA.
They have these agendas that they wantto and doctor Neet your children in
school, and if that goes AGAINSTIAGENTA, of course they're going to come
out against it. I don't Idon't understand. I don't understand what is
to be gained here, Rich,I don't understand what is to be gained

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by the PTA wanting to get betweena child and a parent. Is it
so they feel good about themselves becausethey really believe that they're saving young lives,
even though the science goes back thatup. I really think that this
is about outing a child, andthey don't think that it's a school's place
to out a child. So that'swhat they're saying. But the reality is

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is it's about keeping secrets from parents, right, And it's not the school's
job. It is not the state'sjob to raise a child. It is
a parent's job to raise a child. And when a child is going through
any kind of emotion or a psychologicaldistress, and let's be honest, adolescents
in puberty is traumatic for everybody,it is a parent's responsibility to take on

(40:57):
that role and loving, nurturing,guiding and mentoring that their child. It
is abhorrent to me that a schooland the state and the government would say,
no, we're going to keep thisfrom the parent and prevent the parent
from doing what the parents instinctively knowto do. Right. Somebody sent me
a very funny email some time agoand I wish I could remember who said

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it, but he essentially said,you know what if what if a student
went to a teacher and said,I've decided to become a Christian and my
parents aren't Christian. You know,it would be outrageous for a student to
do that. But at what point, at what point do you tell the
parents? If a child comes toyou and says, I'm addicted to heroin,

(41:40):
do you tell the parents? Then? Well, here's that's a great
question. May real is a greatquestion because the other thing that I'm wondering
is if the schools are keeping secretsfrom parents on an issue something like this,
what other things are the keeping fromparents? Do the parents know what
is in the curriculum? Yep,oh no, no, that's one of
the issues we've already found. Yeah, we've already fold that. I think

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it's a very it's a dangerous thingthat we are living in a system where
the government is keeping secrets and wherewe know And we can talk about secrets
a little bit more later on,but I really think that this is harmful
to children, and I think thatwhen you really get down to the crux
of this, this is about destroyingthe family unit. And I'm glad you

(42:23):
said that, because that's where Iwas going next, because ultimately I have
lived through friends of mine coming outto their parents, and it was a
terrible experience back in the eighties.Right, So this is back in the
late eighties, early nineties. Butsince then I have worked with younger coworkers
who are openly gay, and Ialways ask them, how did you come

(42:44):
out to your parents? I'm justcurious. I would love to know what
that was like to a person.They said some variation of they were incredibly
supportive, or they were a littleupset and not sure what to do,
but we talked through it and weworked it out, and now they are
supports or I decided not to tellthem for a variety of reasons. And
these are adults now, so whoam I going to get in their business?

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Right, I'm not going to getin there in that business. But
the notion that somehow every parent hasto be suspect when in my mind,
from the outside looking in, oneof the things that the gay community has
been fighting for for decades is acceptance, right, and I think we've achieved
that. And I would just saythis if the reason they do this is

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to protect the children, and theydon't. That's why the schools are keeping
secrets from the parents, is becausethey don't want their child being They don't
want a child, their student beingabused by a parent who maybe sure come
that way, if their child cameout as transgender, then it is your
job, as a mandated reporter toreport that to the state. It's that's
not your job to keep secrets fromparents. I agree. What kind of
response do you get as your collectingsignatures and how many do you have so

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far? Do you know? Ihave no idea, to be honest with
you. We have petitions out allover the state and we are starting to
get them back, so that's atAnd then of course you know, we
have the Secretary of State that wehave to go through the caring process with
and who knows when do you haveto turn in all your signatures. We
are collecting those and turning them inAugust fifth. Okay, see, I've
been another month, yep. Sowe're hoping to have all the petitions back.

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The last day of July is ourdrop top dead date, so we
can collect them all because the otherthing, you know, with two petitions
I to finish is I have toseparate all of those out and then so
I'll tell you it's going well.The response that I get, I will
say this emphatically. As I havetraveled to date, I have been to
sixty of Colorado, sixty four counties, and I have talked to all kinds

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of groups, all kinds of religiousgroups, political groups, a political groups,
civic groups, Democrats, Libertarians,Republicans, unaffiliated. This is not
a left versus right issue. Thisis a right versus wrong issue. And
I have had Democrats in Steamboat Springsand Boulder signing my petition saying this is

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common sense, yep. And Iwill tell you the other thing when the
when the the LGB, I callthem the ALPHABETI spaghetti group, when they
want to come at you and say, oh, this is discrimination, this
is transphobia. This is not aboutthat, right. This is about listen,
I'm going to use their buzzwords becausethey love them. This is about

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ensuring equality for women and the womenin sports. This, this initiative,
which for me is just a nobrainer, would prevent any male, any
any natal male, anyone born male, from participating in sports that are intended
for middle school or secondary school.For males, so girls sports only.

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And it only goes from middle schoolto high school because in elementary school everything
is pretty much codsy. It's underthe title twenty two, right, which
is the statute, the title ofstatutes that govern K through twelve. And
I specifically had that conversation with thiswith the title word the other valid initiative
one forty two makes it so thatwe're again they want to say, oh,

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it's transphobic. Well, actually,I'm going to come from the perspective
of a gay man here that byyou chopping off the body parts of a
young gay boy, that is themost homophobic thing that you can do.
And you're going to chop off thebreasts and mutilate the genitals of a young
lesbian girl. There's nothing more misogynistor nothing more homophobic than mutilating young gay

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and lesbian boys and girls. Becausethe reality is is that most kids who
experience gender dysphoria severe level of genderdysporia are actually gay. That's what research
has found us like eighty percent endup being gay. And that's why,
if you you know, going backto what we said a minute ago,
ninety seven and a half percent ofthose children who are allowed to just go
through the phase of life without anykind of intervention wind up reconciling with their

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natal sex and they just are like, oh, I'm gay, I'm lesbian.
Like I. I am honestly verythankful that I never had to grow
up in this day and age becauseI was the young boy who I like
to clean, I like to cook, I like to have femin intendancy,
have feminine tendencies, although I stillpop the barbiehead doll on like, wow,
my sister's Barbie dolls. But youknow what, later on in life,

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I outgree that I can change astarter on a car just like any
other straight man. Yeah, maybenot a new car. Well, nobody
can change the starter on a newcar. They've made it too complicated.
So rich, where can people?Everybody alway says where can I sign the
petition? Is there a place,a Facebook page or anything that has We're
going to be out here signing petitionsor should they just have to scope out

(47:38):
the grocery store where they're where they'reshopping. We are going to be at
the Rockies game tonight. Oh wow, so don't listen to it. On
eight point fifty go to the Rockiesgame and signer petition. The other places
they can go to is sorry youRed. You can go to Protect Kids
Colorado dot org and you can findout where we're at. We are on

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Facebook, we are on all ofthe socials, and of course we're like
I said, we're all over thestate. So if you want to find
out where and when we're going tobe in your corner of the state and
in your town, you can dothat by going to the Protect Kids Colorado
dot org website. And to beclear, they are not you are not
paying petition gathers. They have nomoney. We are volunteers. Yeah,
it's all volunteers. So if thisgets on the ballot, it is going

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to be through the herculean efforts ofall of the volunteers. So if you
see these, what are the numbersof the initiatives, one forty two and
one sixty. Also, we,like I said, we just way between
the caller OPTA and the Special Initiativescoalition that has been formed that have already
raised half a million dollars. Ifthere are anybody out there who has money
and they're like what should I dowith this money? Please go to Protect

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Kids Colorado and donate it because gettingit onto the ballot is only the first
step, right then you have tocampaign for it. Then we have to
campaign for it, and we're alreadyhalf a million dollars behind the eight ball
right well, behind the opposition,is what you're saying. Somebody just said,
what is the source of the ninetyseven percent? That is the cast
review, which was a study onoutcomes and the science behind transitioning kids,

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and a pediatrician, I don't knowher first name, doctor Cass. She
did this very complete study that iseasy to read. It is easy to
read, and it just demonstrated thatthe quote science that is being touted by
the trans mafia is not based onscience. A lot of it is based
on proclamations by activists and it's notaccurate. And the peer review that is

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going through, the science is goingthrough that supports gender firming care is actually
circular, meaning that yeah, ithas all this little close knit community of
scientists and medical professionals that are justbasically all on the same board. The
people can also go to Radar DocGaye against groomers dot com and we have

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all of these things on there aboutgender affirming care and it is all peer
reviewed. Also all the stuff thatwe cite. We have all of the
journal articles at the bottom. Youcan go through and read it. You
can get just we we bring itdown into like the layman's terms. But
if you are one of those brainiacpeoples like me who loves to read journal
articles, you can click on thelinks to all of those. Dois down

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at the bottom of all of ourjournal articles and we go everything from the
social transitioning all the way through tothe wrong sex hormones to the puberty blockers
and all of the harms that weknow this is causing, not just children,
but it also does it to adults. If somebody just ask you should
go to the Greeley Stampede, Ohyou're going to be there. Oh you're

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gonna be there. Fantastic. Oneof we have a number of our organization,
Gays against Groomers, and she'll beout there also. So we are
literally all over the state. Sorryto tell everybody that Gays against Groomers is
all over the states. So well, let's do a really, we've got
like two minutes left, so let'stalk about parasol patrol for just a minute.
You I want to be clear aboutwhat you personally have given up because

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of your stances because a lot ofpeople in the gay community now hate you.
Oh, I receive far more hatefrom the gay community. The ALPHABETI
spaghetti than I do. Quardy mafiaCordy mafia is what somebody just called it
here, Yeah, because it's justall a bunch of me and they have
its parasol patrol was also behind gettingme banned from trade the Gay bar in
Denver as well as they tried toblock me from getting in from Denver Pride

(51:23):
this weekend. They like to tellpeople that they are a non violent,
peaceful group, and I called themout on it. They stalk, they
harass, they bully, they intimidate, and if necessary, they use physical
violence. And they they're you know, in their Jills Jill Biden moment.
We're like, oh, he's alawyer, and I'm like, well,

(51:44):
actually, I have the police reportsto back it up. And I posted
two videos. One of them wasthem this weekend and Manitou Springs assaulting a
woman and a man at Pride andManitoo Springs physically assaulting them, and then
another one is from Pro Life rallyat the Capitol where Eli was on the
leader of Parasol Patrol was remember wordsare violence, yes, so verbally assaulting

(52:08):
a member of the law enforcement.Can we just talk about that cop and
how like I mean honestly, becausehe's getting you know, yelled at,
and he's like, hey, backup, buddy, yes, and then
he physically assaults another member of thecommunity. I believe it was a woman,
and he's like, you know,he's yelling at her, he's cursing
at her, he's trying to intimidateand bully and push. Angryman. He's

(52:32):
an angry butchman. So we haveand I have videos of Parasol Patrol in
Brooklyn attacking a journalist, physically attackinga journalist at a drag Queen story time
in Brooklyn. We have video ofthem attacking somebody in Missouri, and I
have at least three other videos ofthem assaulting people right here in Colorado.
So if Eli was on wants tocall me a liar, I got the
receipts and I'll put that up onmy social media. You can find it

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on fifty two to eighty based Homoon Tech. It's actually been retweeted by
Sebastian Gorka. Nice nice Rich lotsof people saying please do send them up
north. I've been looking all overThornton to sign and I'm only finding the
other petition. So oh well,I'll tell you what. If you guys

(53:14):
meet them up in Thorton, goahead and send us a message up on
our protect Kids Colorado dot org websiteand I will make sure that we get
them out to you because I knowwe're up there, all right, Protect
Kids Colorado dot org. I'm gonnaput it on the blog and I didn't
put it on on Rich Google himA joy to see you as always,
my friend. Thanks Manny, allright, we'll be back. A president

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does have immunity as long as theyare working in an official capacity, and
the majority opinion went on to saythat when considering whether or not something is
within the official capacity or not,one cannot question the motives of the president
acting in that capacity. This isgreat news for Donald Trump. I happen
to think it was the best wayto thread this needle because it's not just

(54:00):
about Donald Trump. It is aboutfuture presidents as well. Although I just
got this email from a friend Bill, and he said, listening to the
first hour, and while I'm excitedabout the latest Scotis ruling on presidential immunity.
I wonder how this ruling would haveaffected Watergate. Nixon was the president
at the time, and he wasalso the head of the RNC, So
wasn't he working in official capacity?Maybe I'm too old, but I've not

(54:23):
heard anyone comment on the Watergate debacleand how it would have been handled.
So I think that because Watergate,the entire situation hinged on the Nixon campaign
running for reelection, trying to spyon their political opponents, I don't see
how that falls within the official capacityof the president of the United States.

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Now, as head of the RNC, you could make an argument, but
this is not what the Supreme Courtjust ruled. The Supreme Court didn't rule
on whether or not you were operatingthe official capacity of the RNZ, right,
it was just in your president duties. And this is why the Supreme
Court kicked it back down to thelower courts, because the Supreme Court did

(55:06):
not delineate between what is official dutiesand unofficial duties, essentially saying to the
lower courts, you guys are goingto have to do this out and you're
going to have to allow the plaintiffsand the defendants to make the argument that
yes it was or no it wasn't. And future courts will probably put the
meat on the bones of this decision. But this decision is really important for

(55:29):
future presidents. Take Donald Trump outof it, and this is a very
important decision in terms of what apresident can be held accountable for. And
a lot of people on the leftare taking to Twitter and saying things like
the President Joe Biden could just sendout seal Team six to take out everybody.
Really, do we really think thatthat's where we are? We really

(55:49):
believe that, because it would behard to argue that in an official capacity,
taking out your political opponent using sealteams is somehow an official duty of
president of the United States of America. Now, if you want to make
the argument that the president of theUnited States has a duty to ensure that

(56:10):
elections are held fairly and freely,then yeah, you could make that argument
on behalf of Trump, and alower court will decide or not whether or
not that he made the case wellenough. But it's one of those things
that you don't want to have.You cannot look at it only through the
prism of Donald Trump, you can'tdo that because a Supreme Court decision has

(56:35):
a long lasting impact, and thisis going to apply to future presidents as
well and protect future presidents from beingcharged with a politically motivated crime, or
at least a charge. I guessI should say. So, there you
go on that. Now. Wehave a lot of other stuff on the
blog today that I do want toget to, including can we have a

(56:58):
moment, just a moment? Lastnight, did you watch the USA women's
gymnastics trials? And I did not? Are women's Olympic team pretty good?
Oh my god? First of all, if you're a gymnast in another country
and you watch that last night,you're like, we are screwed, because
this is probably the best team we'vehad in a long time. You have

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three returning Olympians in Sunny Lee whois the twenty twenty Olympic All Round champion,
Simone Biles, who is by farthe best gymnast to ever do gymnastics,
male or female. Any There's noargument. I think I could make
an argument this Simone Biles is oneof the greatest athletes of all time because
unlike other sports where you have aseason and then you get a little bit

(57:42):
of a time off. Gymnasts don'tdo that. Gymnasts are in the gym
every day of their lives. AndSimone Biles is unbelievable. She did a
tumbling pass last night, a rodthey measured at one point during her flips,
she was twelve feet in the air. That's high. That'sn't jumping off
the roof of a single story house. That's how high she was in her

(58:06):
tumbling past. She's incredible. You'vegot Jordan Childs, who's amazing, and
then you've got this young sixteen yearold girl out of New Jersey. They
are the team we all want tocheer for. But more importantly, when
you look at a picture of thisteam, there's one white girl, one
black girl, one Hispanic girl,one girl of Asian descent, and one

(58:29):
girl of mixed race. And nota single one of them is there because
of some fake diversity. Higher they'rethere because these young women and their parents
committed a long time ago to helpingthem be the best in the world.

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And they worked tirelessly every day,and they sacrificed every day, and they
got hurt and they came back andthey've done all the things that you have
to do to be an athlete atthe highest level. And when you look
at the makeup of this team,I don't see how you can look at
the United States of America and saywe have not made tremendous progress when it
comes to racial equality. And itdidn't come from quotas. It didn't come

(59:14):
from telling people that they had toput a black girl on the team or
they had to put a Hispanic girlon the team. These young women worked
their asses off and now they getto go to the Olympics. And I
am stoked about watching the Olympics thisyear. I am stoked. So if
you did not see and according tomy friend michelle' z owonner and I went

(59:36):
back to watch some of the videos, even the men's gymnastics team is really
really good, really really good,which men's gymnastics always lagged behind women's gymnastics.
But this team looks absolutely fantastic.Mandy, I would have to disagree,
although I do agree some own Bilesas probably one of the best gymnasts
in America has every year, hasever, has every ever put out,

(01:00:00):
But what but the greatest athlete ofall time? I think you're taking a
little extreme there. You're letting amotion cloud your judgment, just saying enjoying
your show. But here's the thing. What makes the greatest athlete in the
world, day Rod, What doyou think the requirements would be for the
greatest athlete in the world? Numberone, they would have to be number
one at their sport and dominantly so, right, and longevity and doing so

(01:00:20):
correct. Longevity would be the others. Yep, yeah, yeah, So
you've got You've got all these people, and then you have people that are
in incredible condition and remain so MichaelJordan was at the top of his game
until he wasn't at the very endright. Simone Biles is the oldest female
United States gymnast ever to compete inthe Olympic Games. And not only is
she competing, she blew the doorsoff everybody else at the Olympic Trials because

(01:00:46):
the stuff she does, the tricksshe does are so much harder than everybody
else that they're not even close.They're not even in the stratosphere. So
she's a twenty seven year old womangoing to the Olympics in a sport where
fourteen, fifteen and sixteen year oldsregularly compete there and she shows no signs

(01:01:07):
of slowing down. So I mean, what else makes the greatest athlete?
That would be my question. Whatis it physical conditioning? I would put
someone Bio's physical conditioning events against prettymuch anyone, anyone in the world.
She never stops training. She trainsall year long and has her entire life.

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She is the best in her sport. Ever, she is still competing
at the top level, well beyondwhen other people in her sport are no
longer competing. I mean, whatelse makes the greatest athlete in the world.
For me, it's a combination ofall those things. It has to
be. She didn't choke at thelast Olympics. She quit at the last
Olympics because she wasn't in a goodspace mentally, and in gymnastics, not

(01:01:51):
being in a good space mentally canmean you break your neck. Did I
like it? No? But shehad to do what's right for her.
But she's back with a vengeance thistime, and we did okay, by
the way, without her, wedid okay. There are a couple of
rare examples where this isn't the case, one being right here with the Denver
broncos Terrell Davis. But you haveto be epic. Like I said,

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over a long period of time.Yes, longngevity matters big time. It's
one of the key factors in thoseconversations outside of a few exceptions where like
you just basically like look at theoutlook like, oh, if they would
have played that would have Like TerrellDavis is what he's the most one of
the most notorious ones. But Imean you could make an argument like who
are the top athletes in the worldright now? We'll do some of those

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on the other side of this breakgreatest athlete of all times? What?
What? What parameters need to bethere? So? Uh what about Edwin
Moses four hundred meters hurdles revolutionized theevent. He won gold at the seventy
five and eighty four Olympics, winningone hundred and seven consecutive finals and one
hundred and twenty two consecutive races.I would put them, I'd put him

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in the right I put him inthe race. Pun intended segue from your
last interview with Groomers. Bruce Jennerwas the greatest athlete Olympic to the CAF
one. The keyword here is waswe all know what happened there? This
one just says Mandy, have youever seen football guys? By saying that,

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I think Simone Biles could be thegreatest athlete in the world right now.
It does not in any way,shape or form denigrate what football players
do. But the lifespan of afootball player is very short. That's thing
number one and thing number two.Those guys are in really good physical condition,
some of them better than others,but they're part of a team.

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I think it's hard to argue thatanyone who is part of a team and
does not carry the team, andno one in football carries the team.
I think in basketball you could makethe argument the basketball players can carry the
team more often, but it's likeyou know, currently, I just think
it's an interesting conversation to have becausepeople don't necessarily think of a female being

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labeled the greatest athlete of all time. Now, Serena Williams, you could
make the argument she's an incredible athleteas well, talk about someone who had
longevity at the top of her gamefor a very long time. But ultimately,
I'm just I'm just cure. Ohwell, oh, I can't say
that text message. It's about BruceChanner and the pole vault but I can't.

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I can't, I can't do that. I can't read that anyway.
What kind of things that I'd lovefor you to text me? Because now
I'm curious five six six, Iknow, what do you think that the
qualifications should be before we name someonethe greatest athlete in the world? And
should we make it currently or shouldwe do all time? Because Jim thorpees

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you could make the argument then,but I would also argue that that athletes
in the modern an era, we'lljust say from nineteen ninety to now.
Okay, so the last thirty fiveyears, the advances in nutrition and training
and muscle everything, they've just we'vehad so many advances that it would be

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hard to have an athlete that existsnow with all of that stuff compete against
an athlete who didn't have those advantages. So Mikayla Schiffrin, great athlete,
very very well, very good.There's a glaring similarity among all the Team
USA gymnasts that you miss. Theyare all short, even the men.

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Unless the photing is photo is misleading. Don't inspire gymnastics streams of tall kids.
Funny story, I started taking gymnasticswhen I was four years old.
And I wasn't bad. I wasn'tgreat, but I wasn't bad. I
certainly was not headed for the Olympics. Let me just you know, throw
that caveat out there. That beingsaid about fifth grade, when I hit
five seven and fifth grade, mygynastics coach came to me. It was

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like, yeah, your career ispretty much over. Everything got super difficult
when I got really tall, andthen I just kept getting taller. But
I did end up teaching gymnastics.Gymnastics is a short person's sport, and
it's one of the reasons that Inever wanted to take Q to gymnastics,
because I knew she was going tobe tall, and I just didn't order
to be frustrated like I was.It's like, you know what, it's

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not fun when you can't do anythingand these little, tiny people are flinging
themselves around and doing all this amazingstuff. And that is exactly what happens,
completely exactly what happens. So Mandydoesn't Michael Phelps have the most Olympic
gold medals. You could absolutely arguethat Michael Phelps is the greatest athlete,
one hundred percent Michael Jordan. Also, you could argue that he was the

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greatest athlete because of his longevity.Jim Thorpe. Let's see here, Mandy,
I don't think you can call anyone person the goat. Every sport
is different and skill requirements are different, and they are only the greatest until
someone surpasses them. I mean,look at the increase of speed and track
and swimming. I don't think anybody'sgoing to take Michael Phelps's medals crown anytime

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soon. And I do not seea gymnast on the horizon that is remotely
as talented as Simone Biles. Shewon the Olympic Trials last night by like
six points because she does moves thatnobody else can do. It's amazing.
Kyle Busch, y'all, I'm barelywith NASCAR drivers or an athlete at all.

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But that goes back to the dayswhen they would, you know,
drink heavily and have a nice doughnutaround their waist. Now those guys are
fit, But no, Kyle Buschis not the greatest athlete. Most of
the work, most not all,is done by the car. Just saying
Mandy as a gymnast, Simone Bilesis unmatched. It's nearly impossible to say
anyone is the greatest athlete ever becausethere's no way to come up with a

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fair comparison between disciplines. You knowwhat, I think that's probably a fair
statement, but I would put gymnasticsup against any other sport just for the
mental toughness aspect. Mental toughness which, by the way, took someone bials
out in the last Olympics. Sothere's that. We're gonna come back.
Two minute drill and so much stuffon the blog, keep it right here.

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you? Here's Mandy Coddle. Hright, guys today in the two minute drill,
I've got a lot of stories thatyou really should pay attention to.
They're not all fluff today, butI want to make sure we get them

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on the show. One of them, from The Colorado Sun, is about
a move to expand the scope ofMedicaid. Now. I'm all for providing
an insurer of last resort for peoplewho are too poor to provide their own
healthcare coverage. I'm all for providinglong term care for people that are too

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poor to otherwise provide for themselves.But we've got to stop the mission creep
in Medicaid. Now there's a pushto cover rent and food for Medicaid recipients,
and that I'm all in favor ofhelping people get food and housing.
That being said, Medicaid should notbe the one to do this. Medicaid
reimbursements are very, very low already. It makes it very difficult to get

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a specialist if you need to seea specialist while you're on Medicaid, and
adding anything else to what Medicaid dollarscover means that there's less money to pay
those doctors, and I'd rather seethem pay doctors more the services rendered to
Medicaid patients. To make sure thatMedicaid patients have access to specialists if they
need them, then to expand thereach of the program into areas that are

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already covered by other welfare benefits.This is a perfect example of US needing
a one stop shop for welfare benefitswhere people can have an easy application process
to apply for multiple benefit programs atthe same time. Do not expand the
scope of Medicaid. Solve this problemin another way with an existing program to

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drill it too. So last Friday, we talked really briefly about Grant's Pass
versus Johnson, a Supreme Court rulingthat said cities can ticket and arrest people
sleeping outdoors even without an offer ofshelter. And you should have known Denver
was going to come out right awayand say we don't care. We're going
to continue doing things our way.Now. Aurora, which has taken a

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much sterner approach with the homeless community, has said this just a firm their
belief that they need to kind ofhave a little tough love approach to get
people to accept the offers of supportand help and addiction treatment then they are
currently doing so Aurora, this isjust gonna confirm what they're doing. Denver
not going to change a thing,will continue to see what happens with warehousing

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people and what happens next with allthat drill it too now a study.
Wait, let me do this first. Colorado Democrats are about to put their
own faces in a wood chipper thatthey do not be to put their their
faces into. Accept They're gonna haveto because there is a wing of the

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Democratic Party that is now exposed itselfas being staunchly anti Semitic. Now they
want to talk about the Palestinian people, but the reality is when you protest
outside the house of a Jewish memberof the Department or the Board of Regents
and you are only calling for aceasefire from Israel and not demanding the release
of hostages, well you are ananti semit That being said, there are

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a lot of Democrats who want theDemocratic Party to make a formal resolution.
Now, to be clear, aformal resolution passed by the Democratic Party of
Colorado will mean absolutely nothing to thestate of Israel. It will change nothing,
It will mean nothing except it isgoing to appease that wing of the

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Democratic Party that demands some kind ofaction. Now, how does the Democratic
Party do this without alienating a veryreliable part of their voter base, which
is Jewish voters. I don't knowhow, but they're going to do it
anyway, coming eight months into thewar, says CPR. The resolution would
have no practical impact on US foreignpolicy, but it is an attempt to

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break sharply divided views among Democrats.That split was evidence in some of Tuesday
Night's primaries, where Elizabeth Epps andTim Hernandez were both unseated. Seems to
me that that wing of the DemocraticParty isn't enough to even get some but
elected in a district where only afew thousand people voted. So why worry
about it. I'm going to bewatching this and I think this is a

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terrible, terrible mistake that they areabout to make. And well, I'm
going to enjoy watching it, because, frankly, that's what I'm here for,
watching the Democratic Party in Colorado makea mistake, after watching the Republican
Party in Colorado make so so manymistakes. Now, you may remember that

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the Rocky MOUNTAINVA, which is anAurora, we called it the Tajma VA
because it is a multi billion dollarfacility. Well, things are not going
well. An Inspector General report saysthat the leadership at the VA, which
has since been replaced, created aculture of fear that was so strong that
entire departments of people resigned, leavingveterans without access to cardiac surgery and other

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needed services. Now, according tothe VA, they have solved this problem.
But I have a question, andif you worn't for the you can
let me know via text or email. And that question is, what if
the new leadership continues to create thattoxic workplace, what reporting mechanism do you
have as an employee of the VAto ensure that things don't get so bad
again that the entire departments of peoplequit. I'd like to know that,

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because right now, if they don'tdo that, nothing else matters. Drill
it too. And finally, ifyou are headed to Rocky Mountain National Park,
be aware that the timed entry permitsystem is in effect between ten am
and excuse me, nine am andtwo pm. You must have a timed

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entry ticket. I put a linkon the blog so you can get that
timed entry ticket, or you getthere at eight thirty or you get there
at two thirty, whichever. Butthis is just an effort to make the
park more enjoyable by managing the numbersof people in Rocky Mountain Point In National
Park at any given time. Andfor people that have visited, who visit
a lot, who initially said wewere afraid of how this would work,

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they said, it's actually a lotmore pleasant now without so many people on
the trails. So when we getback, I want to talk about fentanyl
for a moment, because the CommonSense Institute did a new report where they
tried to come up with the financialcost of fentanyl overdoses. But we are

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losing three people in Colorado per dayto fentanyl. Maybe we should make it
illegal like they do. Maybe weshould make it illegal to carry sentinel in
sensitive places. Maybe maybe we shouldmake it so you have to have a
license and a training course before youuse fentanyl. Maybe maybe we should make

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it illegal if you have ventanyl andit gets stolen, you're the criminal at
that point. Maybe we should startapplying some of these gun laws to fentanyl.
And if you're saying to me,Mandy, those are all so stupid
they'll never work, you're starting toget the picture. By the Common Sense
Institute, Colorado in twenty twenty threehad a twelve hundred sentinel overdose deaths in

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Colorado, And it's incredibly fascinating tome to watch the Democratic Party and the
Colorado Legislature, which are almost oneand the same at this point, spend
a tremendous amount of time trying tofind new ways to make legal gun ownership

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more difficult while not doing two things. Number One, they're not making the
penalties on criminals who use guns morehearty. They're not punishing the people who
were actually using firearms in the waythat they were not necessarily intended, which
is to commit a crime. Theyhad the opportunity to increase penalties, but

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they didn't. They created new penaltiesfor someone whose gun is stolen the car,
So if you are victimized, youare now responsible for that victimization.
Now, I don't think you could. You should leave your firearm in a
car, period. I just thinkit's a dumb thing to do that.
Being said, who's going to reporttheir firearms stolen? Now? No one?

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Why would you? I wouldn't ifI did that. And the point
that I was trying to make beforethe break and somebody is taking issue with
me on the blog asking me what'swrong with me comparing Fentinel two guns.
I was doing it tongue in cheek, but I was doing it to make
a point. More people were killedin Colorado last night last year because of

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fentinel, they were killed because offirearms, murder suicide. I'd love to
take that out. I would loveto put the people who are committing suicide
with firearms aside, not because theydon't matter. They do matter very much.
But in Australia, after they dida huge buyback, the methods of
suicide changed, but the people stillkilled themselves. And the point I'm trying

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to make is you would think thatColorado would get tough, right, You
would think that we would increase thepenalties on people selling fentinyl. We would
make it so if you got caughtwith any amount of fentanyl that the potential
penalties are tremendous. And then ifwe catch addicts with fentanyl, there has

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to be a way to deal withthat. But if we catch somebody selling
fentanyl, giving fentanyl to kids,I think they should go to jail for
a very long time. There shouldbe enough teeth in our bills when it
comes to fentanyl that would dissuade someonefrom entering into the possession the profession of
fentinyl dealer. But yet the Coloradolegislation, they don't seem interested at all.

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They're they're not worried about it.It's fine, it's fine, it's
a okay. Eleven hundred people,three people a day, not a big
deal at all. So let's seehere. I'm trying to find the article
that I grabbed earlier today that Idid not link to like a moron.

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So the most common causes of deathin Colorado in twenty twenty three. Let's
just real quick. Do this cancer? We should legislate against cancer. I'm
just kidding. Of course, wecan't do that. Heart disease accidents,
chronic lower respiratory diseases, cardiovascular diseases, Alzheimer's disease, suicide, chronic liver

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disease, aroses, diabetes, othercauses of respiratory system, Parkinson's disease,
COVID nineteen, and it goes on. Well, this is not what I
was looking for trying to find thesestatistics because I pulled them up earlier.
But the reality is eleven hundred peopledying from ventanyl and we're not taking you're

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not viewing that as an emergency.How is that not an emergency? How
are we not aggressively going after thepeople that are letting this happen, that
are doing this to the people ofColorado. Why is that not our number
one issue right now? I'm genuinelyasking, By the way, I don't

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have some snarky answer, because it'sbeyond me why our legislature continues to find
new ways to punish people who owna firearm legally, but yet can't seem
to muster up any concern for thepeople that are flooding our communities with the
most toxic, poisonous, dangerous drugin the history of drugs. And that's

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met with Yawan and I appreciate,though, I appreciate the common sense institutes
trying to put a price tag onthis, and they use things like loss
productivity, costs associated with healthcare andsome other factors to come up with this
number. But isn't eleven hundred deadColors enough? Isn't that number shocking enough
that we should want to do somethingabout this? And I realize that it

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is a very complex problem. Irealized that there's a lot going on with
a porous southern border China flooding Mexicowith the ingredients to make fentanel, and
Mexican cartel is pretty much owning theUnited States when it comes to importing fentanyl.
I get all of that, butyou're telling me there's nothing we can
do in Colorado to make it so. Colorado is no longer the place where

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you want to sell these drugs,nothing at all anywhere. Just thought i'd
ask when we get back. Speakingof new gun laws, there are now
more places that you cannot carry afirearm. But there's a really cool alternative,
and I have one of the foundersof the Hero Non Lethal Company coming

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up next to talk about it,because I think it's awesome. And this
is something that if you have notwanted to carry a gun because the thought
of actually taking another life, regardlessI they're trying to kill you or not,
is it makes you uncomfortable. AndI know a lot of people like
this. This is the solution you'vebeen looking for. We'll talk about it
next. A whole bunch of newlaws go into effect, and gun control

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laws are among them. Eight newgun laws past year will prohibit Colorados from
carrying guns in so called sensitive spaces. This is school's, childcare facilities,
polling places, courthouses, and certaingovernment buildings. We already know that in
the city of Denver, you're notsupposed to carry in one of their parks,
regardless of how many whacked out,drug addled people are actually in the

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park with you. And so Iam pleased as punch to have with me
one of the founders of a newadvertiser that I have on the show.
But I'm not having him on becausehe's an advertiser. I'm having him on
because this is the perfect solution fora growing problem. And the growing problem

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is that gun owners are having theirrights restricted, and they're having the rights
restricted in such a way that couldactually impact your ability to protect yourself and
your family. And so people arelooking at alternatives and joining me now Dan
dan Awski, Dan and I Itried to add another Dan and Awski dan
Awski from Hero twenty twenty joining mein the studio. Dan, welcome to

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the show. Thank you, Bendy. It's a pleasure to be here today
and looking forward to it. Youguys, you're not You don't have a
background in firearms, you know,we don't. Neither myself nor my partner,
Dave Clements has a background in firearms, but we both have the same
types of situations that have happened inour lives that have caused us to have

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concern, and with that concern,then we started a whole new company.
So tell me about that situation.So basically it started out David and I
were college roommates together almost fifty yearsago, wow, And we met because
we were musicians. Dave was aguitar player, an elite singer, and

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I was a drummer. What wasthe name of your band? The name
was Destiny, There was, therewas, and we had a great time
when we were in college, andwe probably spent more time worried about the
band than we did about our educations. So you know, we got a
great education that way. But that'show David and I met, and we
kept in touch for years. Buta few years ago both of us had

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a very eye opening situation. SoDavid had a close friend female that was
shot and killed in her home withan intruder. Okay, And within a
month or so of that, Ihad a daughter who was in college at
one of the universities, and shewas out on a walking trail and she

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happened to be about four or fivehundred yards behind the girl that was attacked,
was tackled, was drug off intothe woods and the bushes and was
raped and killed. Oh my god, both of us had very true experiences
in our lives. And after thatwe said, you know, we need
to do something. So what wedid is we got together and we bought

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every single self defense device that wecould find on the market, and we
bought them from all over the world. And why did you go in that
direction right away? Because you know, there there are those individuals who feel
comfortable with guns, and there isa lot of individuals who don't feel comfortable
with guns, and they are probablythe most vulnerable because not only do they

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not feel comfortable with that, butthey probably don't feel comfortable with defending themselves
either. And so you know,in neither one of these two individuals,
both David's friend and my daughter,either one of them felt comfortable with guns,
it would never carry. And sowe decided we need to do something.
So after we evaluated all of thesedifferent products and at the time,
which was back in about five yearsago, we come to the conclusion that

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there was nothing out on the marketthat was really a good product that was
designed and developed specifically for women andfor those individuals who didn't want to carry
a gun. And so that's howhero got started. And I will say
this, I have seen many differentnon lethal things. You either have to

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be too close for comfort. Inmy if you have a taser or something
like that, which I carried foryears when I was younger, But then
a firearms instructor actually said to me, you have to be close enough to
use that, and they can easilytake that out of your hand if they
overpower you. And so the closequarters of some of these non lethal weapons

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even made me go, Okay,that's not going to work for me.
And then to the other extreme,you have essentially modified paintball guns that's too
big to carry in a way thatallows you to go about your business and
not feel like you've got this paintballgun on you. Right. The other

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thing associated with that the paintball industryis, as you may know, when
you go to a paintball tournament oryou go to do that, everybody's dressed
up in protective clothing, okay,and so paintball guns are tuned up for
people to be protected. Okay.Now, when you take that protection away
and you bring that into the generalpublic, then the paintball guns have to
be tuned down. You know,because of the legal requirements associated with there.

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So basically what happens if you isyou have a paintball gun. It
shoots a plastic projectile. That projectilemay or may not break. It doesn't
crush, it doesn't open up.It basically it breaks at the seam and
so you have a spit, ifyou will, of powder that comes out
of that tepper is what they callit. Guess is what it is.

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And so you know when when you'relooking at that. The paintball guns,
there are some really good products andI like, I like paintball. I've
had paintball guns when they don't Iwant It's my only paintball experience covered in
bruises and I was like, no, I don't want that ever again.
That was my first one too.Of my kids thought it was really great.

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I know, I'm out putting Dadand Bruce, Yeah, I'm good.
Yeah. But the Hero products,there's two products. There's the Hero
product and there's the aerow product.Both of them do have a tear gas
space. One of them is powderbase, one of them is liquid base.
And to your point about distance,most municipalities and you know, wherever

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you live, you have to checkwhat the regulations are, but most municipalities
will define what your personal space is. And so if someone is inside of
that personal space, then you havethe legal right to defend yourself. If
they're outside of that space, they'rejust yelling at your whatever, but they
haven't come into your space, thenyou know that the laws get a little
tricky there. And so you know, when we designed the aerow product and

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the Hero product, we designed themfor being right as you cross into your
person. So ten fifteen feet,what are we talking about? Ten to
fifteen feet is what's normally described.There are some states where they use the
twenty one foot rule. That's crazy, but that's what they use. And
so you know, so we wehad to develop products that will work within
twenty feet and work effectively, right, But they're not they're not as dangerous

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as we'll say, a paintball gunwith someone, because you know, when
you do shoot someone, whether it'swith a paintball gun or whether it's a
hero or whatever, you still runthe risk of if you injure them.
Right, what's the law going tosay? Right? You have to be
able to defend what you've done,why you've done it, same as if

(01:29:40):
you were defending yourself if you haduse lethal force. So how did you
make these different? Are these notthe because these these the hero and the
and the arrow. The arrow lookslike a remote control. That's what I
always think of it is, likeit looks like the Hero is more like
a traditional firearms shape, though itis not in any way shape or form.

(01:30:01):
Nobody's going to look at it andsay, oh, you're holding a
gun. It doesn't look like that, but it does have more of the
traditional yeah, yeah, so yeah. So basically the hero which shoots the
ball, the tear gas projectile,it shoots at a speed of one hundred
and fifty one hundred and sixty feetper second, right, so it's moving

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all right. A paintball gun willshoot at about two hundred and fifty feet
per second when it's tuned down tobe used as self defense, and so
you know, the kinetic energy thathappens there is different. So what we
had to do because we wanted itto be slower a little bit, because
we wanted it to be less dangerous. You know, we call it non

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lethal, so that means if ithits somebody in the atoms apple, for
instance, we don't want it tobreak their atoms apple, right, Okay,
so we had to tune it downa little bit. But what we
use is we use a propriet proprietarysubstance for creating the ball, and it
crushes at a different rate than aplastic ball would, right. And so

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even though you have a slower projectile, you have actually a better explosion if
you will powder, because of thedesign of the ball itself. I find
it interesting that you guys put somuch attention into the non lethal part that
you want to make sure that someoneis not going to accidentally kill someone or

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if that, you know, itwould be so outside the realm of normal
usager possibility. And I because youdon't want people to go to jail for
taking out a bad guy accidentally whenthey were just trying to you know,
incapacitate themselves so they could run away, you know. And I don't this
this statement I'm about to make isan opinion, so I'll leave it at

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that. So I have some verygood friends that are very big gun enthusiasts.
They go to competitions, they havea lot of carry permits, they
go from the state to state,They do quite a bit of things in
that area. And what they've toldme is they said, Dan, if
you pull out a lethal weapon andyou shoot somebody, whether you have the

(01:32:12):
right to be doing that because you'rebeing attacked or whatever, you can pretty
well bet that it's going to costyou one hundred thousand dollars in legal fees
to defend yourself, defend yourself andthe entanglements that are there. That's one
of the reasons we didn't want Heroto be a lethal product. Well,
we see what the Denver Police Departmentwent through after the protest by using pepper

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balls and using things of that naturethat fired at a higher rate, and
hundreds of thousand dollars of dollars ofsettlements. And if you think a jury
won't award a criminal a settlement,you're not paying attention. You're absolutely right.
So when you have there are somecompetitors out there for non lethal stuff,

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What is different about the Hero twentytwenty, Like, what are the
things that you guys put in thereto distinguish them from other means of non
lethal protection? Okay, Well,like you said, when you look at
a HERO, which is the projectilelauncher, it looks kind of like a
gun, but it doesn't really looklike a gun, right, And that
was on purpose. So the trigger, for instance, on the Hero uses

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the two middle fingers. Now it'sdone that way because it then allows you
to lay the index finger along thebarrel of the gun and there's a place
there for your finger to lie.What that does if you take and you
point your index finger at anything that'swithin a room, you're right on it.
Right. And so what that doesis that helps an individual who's not

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comfortable with a gun, who hasn'tdone a lot of shooting at the range
or does it, you know,and they immediately they're able to pull the
launcher out, they're able to useit, they're able to be very accurate
with it. To be clear,the purpose of this and is if you're
in a situation where you're being confrontedby an attacker, you're going to shoot
them with one of these pepper ballit's gonna explode, it's gonna give you

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enough time to get away. That'sthe purpose here, right, That is
absolutely the purpose. So if youlook at something like a taser, a
taser will assemble somebody for about thirtyseconds and then they're back up again.
The pepper ball And I say pepperball, but it's really a tear gas

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ball. The tear gas ball willincapacitate somebody for about twenty minutes. Okay,
so in twenty minutes, that givesyou plenty of time to get away.
You know. One of my favoriteshows when I was a young younger
guy growing up was the if youremember Miogi song and Daniel song, Oh
yeah from Karate Kid. From KarateKid, wax on, wax off.

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That's right, And Daniel asked misterMiyagi, what's the best block? Miogi
looks at him, he says bestblock. No, be there, ah,
That is the whole purpose is togive yourself the opportunity to get out.
I got a couple of text messagesasking a similar question, Mandy,
I have a Hero twenty twenty.I think it's better because it doesn't look

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like a pistol so much. TheBurna, on the other hand, which
is one of your competitors, isshaped exactly like a semi automatic pistol,
with the only thing that makes itunique to a normal pistol is the orange
color. The big question is whetheraverage law enforcement officer will be able to
distinguish a firearm from a Hero twentytwenty if it is in my hand and

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not unload their rounds on me.Now, in theory, after you fired
this weapon, you are leaving thescene. And at that point, if
you encounter a police officer, dropwhatever you have in your hands. That
is the best. And sure,I don't care if it's your cell phone
in your hands. Drop whatever's inyour hands, and that should take care
of a lot of the problems.It should. And the other thing is

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that the Hero twenty twenty has redmarkings on it, and red markings is
the notification to a law enforcement officeror to a fire or enforcement so forth
that it is non lethal. Sojust like if you have a an airsoft

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gun, right, have a redplug in, right, that's to indicate
that it is non lethal. ButI will say those guns have been mistaken
for real guns. This would bea lot harder to mistake for a real
guns, especially the arrow product.There's no way that they're going to mistake
that unless they really can't see it. But again, what you're gonna do
is fire this in a situation andthen run the hell away, and when

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you run into a cop, youdrop whatever's in your hand. Anyway,
that should just be standard procedure.This is a good question. Is there
a way to train and practice withthese? Yes, So we sell trainer
cartridges, and so those trainer cartridgesbasically have the same setup, only instead
of shooting a tear gas ball,basically they shoot a ball filled with baby

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powder. Yeah, so boom.Yes, and I and here's the thing,
you guys. I've shot this thing. I own this thing. This
is literally the easiest thing to useI have ever had in my hand in
my life. It is almost idiotproof. I hate to say that,
because there's always an idiot out therethat's going to disprove me. But this
is, in my estimation, theperfect protection weapon for a college student.

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Because more colleges are saying you cannotbring a firearm to campus. You don't
have to have a concealed carry permitfor women who are reticent about owning a
firearm. This thing has no kickat all, I mean none. And
you could quote train yourself on howto use this in ten minutes. It
is that. It is that simple. It is. It is. And

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you know, we have had individualsthat are We've had females that are in
their eighties year old and they shootthis and they you know, they're very
nervous, and if you put agun in their hand, they would they
would not even touch it, right, But you put this in their hand
and they're shooting it, and they'refeeling comfortable with it, and they're saying,
I can do this. Well,somebody else said, what if somebody's

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trying to break into your house?Okay, so there you want to This
is what I would do if somebodywas breaking into my house, I would
probably shoot at the floor or somethingin front of them. So I got
a big cloud that covered the wholead. Right now, you will have
to clean your house, yeah,you know, and that can be done

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easily enough, but you do haveto consider concern yourself with that. But
you know, if you've got someonein your house, a little bit of
cleaning is a whole lot better thanhaving a problem. Somebody said, do
you aim at the face? Neveraim at the face. You always aim
at center mass. You want tohit them right in the middle of the
chest, whether you're shooting a firearmor the Hero twenty twenty. No,

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your aim is not good enough tohit somebody in the face. Just hit
them in the chest. That's right. And when we test our products.
We basically take our test dummies andwe pad them up so that it more
closely represents what a human might bein different body styles. One last question
before I make dan play of theday. Is there a safety on it?
Or is it always ready to fire? There is a safety on it,

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and so the safety basically activates aset of lights and a laser as
well. Now, those are yourfirst line of defense. If you have
somebody shining a very bright light.It's a six hundred lumen light, and
if you're shining your face and youreyes, you will naturally turn away.
That's your first opportunity to get outof there. And if somebody sees a
laser on them, they're naturally trainedto think, oh no, oh crap,

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that's right, that's right. That'syour second opportunity to get away.
Your third opportunity is then after youfire them. Okay, the shelf LI
for pepperballs, how long do theylast? We we warranty them for two
years. Okay, you know theydo last longer than that, but our
standard warranty is for two years.All right. If you want more information
or you want to go ahead andbuy one, go to hero Non lethal

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dot Com. That's Hero non Lethaldot Com. To get ten percent off,
use my promo code Mandy at checkout. And now, Dan, it's
what to give you one more thing, one more little gift for you.
Okay, okay, besides the tenpercent off. Because it's the fourth of
July. Normally we have two cartridgeswithin the kit that you buy, we're

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gonna give you four. All right, Yeah, it's a fourth of July
special. Now's the time, myfriends, now's the time. Hero non
Lethal dot Com is the website.And oh I'm an uber driver. If
I have to use it in thecar while I be incapacitated to yes,
could, yes, you very wellcould. An arrow would be better for

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you, Yeah, the little remotecontrol jammer. Anyway, look it all
up here on non Lethal dot Com. Because now it's time for the most
exciting segment all the radio on.It's guid of the day. All Right,
Dan has been briefed a little bit, So here we go, Dad,
joke of the day. All youhave to do is laugh for grown

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Dan. About one hundred years ago, a couple of brothers said that they
could fly. Yeah they were right. See what I mean? See what
I mean? Now you get itnow, you get it, okay,
The Michael Trivia question. The MichaelL. Prince Award is a literary award
given to a book each year.What kind of book does the Prince and

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it's p r I N t ZAward honor No clue, I'm gonna say
romance novels. I'm just gonna guess. I'm we are all wrong, young
adult literature. Each year, thePrince Award is awarded to a book written
for teens. For teens. Whatis our word of the day? Limerick?
First, I haven't struggled today.First, I know, I know,

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I talked to the game. Andnow I'm like, no, I'm
gonna have to work harder day.Tautology A U T O l O g
Y tutology. I know what thismeans. Tautology means when something is an
inherent conflict with snow. That's notit. It is Ptology is language.

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It has to do with language.Nope, No, oh do you know
less? Yeah? Do you anyguests? It's the it's the study of
African guerrillas. I like it.See Dan gets it, Dan gets it
right now. I like it.But no, needless repetition of an idea
oho. Needless repetition of an ideatitology. Needless repetition of an idea tautology.

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Okay, all right, let's go. What is our jeopardy category for
today? Now? Dan, youhave to say your name if you want
to answer the question, and thenI will call on you and you have
to answer in the form of aquestion. All right, and you don't
have to wait till the end.Anytime you know the answer, go ahead.
Trademarked sounds Okay, A lion roaringis a trademark of this movie studio

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Anny. What is MGM? Correct? This basketball team trademarked the song Sweet
Georgia Brown. Mandy, who arethe Harlem Globe tries? Is correct?
I'm Candy? Dan? TV networkhas trademarked the ticking sound of a stopwatch
Mandy? Who is CBS? Thatis correct? This DVR company has that

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really cute trademark sound with the televisionlogo that has a little smiley phased a
little boo boo. I'm making thatup because that's better than Dan, Dan,
what is Pride? No, it'salso an older one. I have
no idea TV O Oh well,I forgot about that? Is that still
a thing. I don't know.I don't know if or not. And
finally, this fast food chain trademarkeda bong that is E below middle C.

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What is that clue? I'm goingto give you a better many talk
about Dan. I told you,I warned you any and I just want
to you're a gamer because I've literallysaid, Dan, do you want to
play? And I'm gonna beat you? And Dan's like, I'm game,
Let's do it. Let's do it. Dannowski from Hero twenty twenty. Thanks
for coming in. We'll be backtomorrow. Keep it right here on KOA