07-15-24 FULL SHOW - We are Off to the RNC

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Live from Milwaukee for the Republican NationalConvention. It's Mandy Connell and presented by
Rocky Mountain Boys. I'm knee wetthem and there many connakee sad thing.

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, livefrom the Republican National Convention in the land
of the friendly people, Milliewaukee andArod and I made it are a mediator.
Somebody just said how they are Igoing to play the air hoorn?
And yet he finds a way,because that's what a rod doesn way.
Yes, So we were up wellbefore the crack of dawn and made it

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through the Denver Airport and made ithere to Milwaukee where it is hot and
humid and steamy outside. But weare in the beautiful Panther Center, which
is the home of the media row, and we were about two blocks away
from the five Serf Center, whichis where all of the delegates are right
now for their first session of theday. And if you've been living under

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a rock or you never paid attentionto politics before, the convention goes on
over multiple days and the sessions takeplace from noon to five and then six
to ten, so they are fivehour or four hour sessions. And the
delegates here from a lot of differentspeakers, and it's just kind of a
big Rara celebration of Republican ideals,and everybody is rowdy and fired up,

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and everybody's wearing red and it justlooks fantastic. I did do a blog
today, but because we flew outthis morning, the blog's not that big.
But nonetheless I still want you togo read it. Probably the blog
tomorrow will be more of a recapof what we did today and what is
coming up tonight. So if youwant to just kind of follow along and
do it that way, that isthe easiest way to make that happen.

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But now it's time. Wait aminute, that's the wrong thing. That's
the wrong thank you. Jer okay, yeah, I know. Go back
in time there first, thank you. It's not time now. To find
the blog, go to mandy'sblog dotcom. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look
for the headline that says seven fifteentwenty four blog we are off to the
RNC. Click on that and hereare the headlines you will find within anything

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Listening Office halpen Ericon all with shipsand clipmas. That's a press plach today
on the blog this week just gota whole lot more interesting. A rod
and are flying this morning, sothe blog is thin. Here's a full
list of who is speaking at theRNC. Security is extra tight at the
RNC. The Secret Service has alot of explaining to do. Trump's documents

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case is dismissed. Guests today includeRob Dawson, Graham Dunn on the Secret
Service failures this weekend, Mary MargaretOlahan and Dan O'Donnell and Josh Finley,
Richard Simmons, Doctor Ruth and ShannonDoherty all die. And those are the
headlines on the blog at Mandy's blogdot com. Won't take you long to

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get through that blog, but there'sa few big stories obviously over the weekend.
An assassination attempt on President Donald Trump'slife at a rally in Pennsylvania.
And I'm sure that most of youdid as we did when you heard about
it. You flipped on the TVand you've probably seen the video over and
over and over again of President Trumpturning his head at exactly the right moment

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so a bullet went through his earand not his brain. Now, the
most remarkable part of this story isthat as the Secret Service came in to
protect the president and took him tothe ground, as they should. He
then got back up and raised afist into the air and told his followers,

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the rally attenders that were there atthe rally, to fight. And
the image of Donald Trump with hisfist race and blood on his face has
to be, I would think,one of the most iconic images of the
twenty first century. And I realizedthat we're not supposed to immediately make things
political, but as this is thefirst day of the Republican National Convention,

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I will be perfectly honest. OnceI knew that he was okay, meaning
that he had already left the facility, and it was I think maybe an
hour too, maybe an hour anda half later, before the Secret Service
announced he was okay, he wasgood, and then he announced a statement
on truth social At that point,once I knew the President was okay,

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I thought, you know what,that's it. It's over. He's going
to He's going to win, becausehow can he not. He's now you
know, I'm not crazy about avictim centered, you know, narrative,
but the ultimate, the ultimate victimhoodis to be shot at a co rally.

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And I think that this is goingto bring a lot of people to
the polls that otherwise might not haveshown up. Maybe they're disillusion maybe they're
not happy with either of these choices. But there's a lot of people that
I have seen on social media,people that are not necessarily political, people
who are coming out of the woodworksto say, you know what, I
wasn't enthusiastic about voting, and nowI'm all in, I'm ready. I

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can't wait. We cannot allow thisto go unschecked. So we're going to
be talking about that. We're obviouslygoing to be talking. If you heard
the news a moment ago, alittle more information is coming out about the
shooter. But I'm going to tellyou, guys, something hinky is there
because this kid twenty years old,has no social media footprint whatsoever. Ever,

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there's nothing. Isn't that weird fora twenty year old to get a
rod You're way closer to twenty thanI am. Isn't that odd? Don't
be a little bit strange. Imean, that's no presence at all.
He had a Discord channel and thatwas it in Discord said he hasn't even
he hasn't even put any on Discord. He was just he was all on
a Discord channel and that was theonly sign that this kid has a footprint.

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I wonder if I don't think there'sany evidence that it ever existed,
you know, I mean, Idon't know. We're gonna have to,
Like I said, we've got towait, Ross and I did a show
on it on Saturday. You haveto wait and find out the details as
they unfold. I want to takea second. We actually have a roving
reporter on the street right now,our own Rob Dawson is here at the

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convention with us. Rob. Whereare you right now and what are you
doing? Hey, Mandy, Iam outside Radio Row outside of the UW
Milwaukee arena where you are right now? Yes, at what we were laughing
about and what you What might bethe attraction for you is a state fair
or county fair like atmosphere out herewith probably i'd say fifty to seventy boots

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maybe, Yeah, you know,goodies and drinks and food and all that.
Well, are you going to bringme a Wisconsin meatstick when you come
back in? Because I saw those. I find them they look delicious.
Yes. So are you seeing peoplemill about? Because the first session started
at noon at the five Serf Center. Which is how far away is the

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five Serf Center from us right now? Around I would say probably a quarter
to a half mile. Turn aroundthe corner, I should be able to
see it. There are a fewpeople milling around, but a lot of
stuff, and not all these boothsopen yet. I just maybe, and
this is our first convention. Ithink from what we've been hearing, things
are just a little slow to getgoing, and I'm wondering if it's just

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the frustration of trying to get intotown, like maybe, And also,
let's be real, normally on aMonday of the convention, the president does
not speak. It's kind of Idon't want to say backbenchers, but kind
of backbenchers, you know, thepeople that are trying to make their bones
in the party. They may beable to speak on Monday night. There's

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a theme for every day of theconvention, so some of it is very
policy specific. And yeah, maybethere are people struggling to get through security.
Do you know anything about the securitylines right now? We heard a
minute ago that security lines were likeninety minutes to get into this roon And
I want to turn the corner yetI'm not seeing the wind and people there.

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I wanted to just talk to youa little bit though, about one
person who I met well as I'mwalking to see if I could get to
the closer the security line. Sheis part of the Republican Jewish CULTGE.
She's from Atlanta, and she hassaid that being a Republican and Jewish is
an anomaly, but becoming not somuch after October seventh. She had a

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cowboy hat made out of glass orglass sheep or something, and yeah,
I don't know, I don't know, but it looked pretty thin though.
And then she's got trumppins and deckedout. So we had a good conversation
just now outside of she's trying tomake her way around the area. But

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yeah, but that's where it isright now. I'm going to see if
I can walk around the corner herereal quick and see if I could see
any sort of line. I'm guessingmost people came in in time to get
to the first session, which ishappening now. Yeah, the first session
has already started, and they justshowed we've got the video on here at

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Panther Arena of the Ffiser Center,and they just showed and it's completely full,
so it looks like a vast majorityof the delegates already in there.
We're going to head over there afterthe show and hopefully have some great audio
from people people that we you know, I talk to everybody that I walk
past and I say hello, andI talk to people. People are excited,

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they're fired up, they're ready togo have a great convention, and
they are ready to go. Okay, okay, all right, and we
have the Trump trolley. I'm actuallylooking at a Trump trolley right now.
Oh good. It is one ofthe few vehicles that has been allowed into
the zone right here. I'm tryingto see if anybody's on it. I
don't think anybody's on it right now. Well, yeah, no, no

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one's on the Trump train. Thatthat happens a little bit later. Hey,
Rob, I appreciate it. We'retouched back with you throughout the day.
We've got another guest coming up rightnow. His name is Graham Dunn.
He is a He served as aUS Marine before his twenty seven year
police career. He served as aSWAT officer and sniper for eight years.
He's also a full time academy instructorfor eight years. He is highly decorated,

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including the Police Medal of Honor,the Distinguished Service Cross, and multiple
life saving awards. Graham, done, Welcome to the show today. I
appreciate you making time for us today. Happy. Well, it's happy for
you know, Donald Trump, becausehe's alive. I mean, the reality
is is that he was very closeto being unalived on Saturday. And with

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your experience, Graham, I'm aI'm a lay person, right like,
I don't I'm not an expert,but even I said, how in the
hell did someone get to an elevatedposition that had a clear shot of the
state and no one caught it?It seems like there were some massive failures
here. What are your thoughts?Yeah, so I run executive Protection details

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every month, and we work witha lot of former Secret Service guide and
we use a lot of Secret Serviceprotocols when we do our advances and our
economiments strips, and I will tellyou that they're incredibly in depth. I
mean, really, the Secret Serviceseeds the gold standard for executive protection and
there's no way to stay it that. Really, it's not like you're in
Manhattan where you've got windows everywhere.I mean, it's an open area with

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one or two shooting positions. SoI'd love thee of a connoistance report because
I'm incredible. But additionally, howdid that How was that left out?
I mean, that's a question thatwe all have, right and you know,
I'm hearing that that was local lawenforcements responsibility, but I have to
say, I really don't care.It's just long to day it was some
sort of color. Well, itseems to me that ultimately the responsibility,

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the ultimate responsibility for the entire eventfalls on the Secret Service, and if
they outsource part of that, it'sstill their responsibility to make sure it's being
taken care of properly correct And Ithink it shows a lot of where they're
versus right now. They're thinking moreabout, you know, diversity and hiring

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than they are of their tactics.That that is one of the criticisms that
has been levied right now, thatwe've been focused too much on diversity and
equity and all that crap and notenough on doing the job. So I
want to ask you some very specificquestions about how you prepare a site.
And one of the things my husband, my husband's former military as well,

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and we were talking about this onsaturarlier, like these outdoor rallies have to
be an unmitigated nightmare, right,just logistically to set up the security perimeter
for that. So walk me throughwhat preparation for an event kind of looks
like to give me an idea ofwhat goes into this before we start slinging
arrows at the at the Secret Services, right, and then you know,

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for the record, I mean theSecret Service, Like I said, they
are the gold standards and executive protectionand the guys who are on the ground
has first. The protection team didan incredible job in their heroic in their
action, So no critics, Mom, damn, it's more just where you
dropped the ball into the comics.We fly in several days earlier, and

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there is specific forms that you haveto follow, and it's videos, it's
photographed, You have contacts you haveto make. It is a huge endeavor
that takes an entire team of people. It's not like one guy walks around
and goes you know, I kindof like the way it looks, right,
there's a whole format that you've hadto follow in a lot of boxes
that need to be shocked. Sothere's no doubt my mind that that position

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was noticed, how it was notcovered? That's my question. Well,
and secondarily I want to ask aboutthe actual series of events because now we
have a lot of video that showboth the shooter crawling over the roof getting
to where he a position, andthen there's video of a sniper who appears
to be engaging him looking through ascope but obviously didn't pull the trigger ahead

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of time. What is the processif there is a threat detected. If
let's just say that the some circuitssecret service official was alerted that there's a
guy on the roof, the snipergets him in his sights, who makes
that decision to pull the trigger?Where does that command come from? Well,
ultimately, the sniper can make thedecision if they have to the last
moment, or it might be somethingthat's orders. It could go either way.

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But you know, my thoughts isthat they returned fire so quickly that
they were already watching him right theywere trying to figure out if he was
a good guy with a gun orif somebody wasn't supposed to be there.
Because there's so many people involved inthis, people does lacks of communication,
there's a lot of confusion, soit's possible to hold on a second,
Is that a cop on the roof? Yeah, you know, in immediately

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fire and then when he required theyreturned fire. Something though. It's kind
of baffled me about the Secret Serviceswhen they do their set up the time
side on roofs, they actually setup on the roof where everybody always So
every sniper school I ever went toroofs that could be avoided at all compete
because of your outing, right,that's the point how they could to shoot

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it down. So they put themout there for everybody to see. And
I have to think that the youcould serve the snipers no better themselves.
I think that that's something the borderfrom above them. Maybe it's you know,
for image appearance. I'm not surewhat the sinking behind that is,
but it's an incredibly bad position.It's still sitting out there in the open

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hand right right. If you havesomebody whoknew their business, the hurts people
i'd take out is them. Butyeah, I mean that that seems to
make sense. I mean, it'samazing to me that there was not a
large enough perimeter around this event.It seems to prevent this guy from being
able to bring a long gun inlike that's support to confuse me. And

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now great root the r see thisweek and security here is so tight it
is unbelievable. It is you know, multiple checkpoints. It is the perimeter
is so far away from the actualvenues that for a bad actor to get
this close would be remarkable. Itwould be unbelievable if they could do that.

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So when they set up these perimeters, how far do you decide to
go out? What makes it intothe zone and what does it Yeah,
and that's a hard one to answerbecause it's going to be different depending on
the you know, the situation.But I mean, like I mentioned before,
Okay, it's one hundred and thirtyyards away, but it's not a
lot of structures there, right,So it's easy to say, well,
we've only got two areas we've gotto cover, right, We've got to

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cover that building there and that buildingthere. Again, it's not like downtown
Milwaukee where you've got building out thebuilding of glass. Yeah, you can't.
You just cannot cover everything, right, So it's actually a pretty simple
location of doing a fan size andto set up on that makes it even
more of a problem when you're goingto dissect what went wrong. Right,

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right, So what are your thoughtson who needs to bear the ultimate responsibility
for this? Well, obviously itcomes from the top. Whoever you know
approves the reconnaissance. If unless thereconnaissance was good and they just didn't act
upon it, whoever approved the plansof where people are going to set up,
that's a problem, you know.But also the training. They need

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to hide their snipers for starters,and I would bet, like I said
before, the snipers probably no betterthemselves. They probably don't like sitting out
like that. And additionally, Isaw some other kind of weird stuff when
when they're pushing him into the motorcadeto get him out of there. I
saw one agent who couldn't find herholster. That shows the lack of training.
I saw another agent muzzling the crowd, in other words, pointing her

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gun towards the crowd, violating safetyrules. And you know those safe rules.
Yeah, you can say, oh, those are just range rules.
No they're not. They're the sameand real and I've been there, I
can tell you they're the same.In real life. You do not muzzle
each other into some people. There'sno need for that. She should have
been pointing towards the ground. She'spointing towards the back of six what appeared

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to be like schwat gangs who werein front of her. I watched,
and it wasn't for a moment,it was for like a long time.
It was for a good amount oftime. So you know, those are
training issues, and that just makesme think that their training is not where
it should be, that they're notputting the emphasis on FIREMS training that they
should. Oh absolutely, I mean, I'm a casual shooter and even I
know everything you just said, butthere's been a lot of criticisms, specifically

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of those three women that were sortof there at that exactly where you're talking
about when they're getting the president intothe truck. But is that kind of
what you were referring to, Like, maybe these women are not the most
qualified, but in an effort todiversify the Secret Service, they have allowed
people to continue in the Secret Servicethat maybe don't have the shops right one

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hundred percent. And I mean,honestly, you can actually kind of look
at them and see that the physicalstandards are not what they used to be,
that those are being drops them andyou know, again, what they
did with their weapons, trying toholster up and they can't find the ulster
and muzzling other innocent people is adirect reflection on the train they're receiving in

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the academy and ongoing in service.Chraine, Graham done. I really appreciate
your time today. Thank you foryour service to this country and your continued
service and what you do. Greatinsight, and hopefully we will talk to
you again in the future. ThanksMannie, I appreciate it. All right,
that's Graham done. We will beback in just a few minutes from

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also want to remind you I forgotto do this when we were talking with
Graham Dunn. He has a bookout called The Jagged Blue Line. I
linked to it on the blog today, and if you want to check out
more of him and everything he's done. You can do that there. So
now joining me now is a completelydifferent kind of guest. Paul Winfrey.
He is the president and CEO ofthe Economic Policy Innovation Center. I promise

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I can read Paul. He wasthe Deputy Assistant to President Trump for Domestic
Policy, the Deputy Director of theDomestic Policy Council, and Director of Budget
Policy, all at the White House, and he is the man we have
to thank, at least in part, for the creation and construction of the
twenty seventeen Trump tax cuts. PaulWinfrey, Welcome to the show. Thanks

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for having me, appreciate it.No relation to Oprah, No, I'm
just going a man I Oprah Ragley. That'd be incredible, Oprah sister,
let me help you with your finance. So you had the we were kind
of chatting about this before you came. Come on. You had the opportunity
to work in the White House andwere just as a as a human being,
as a guy. What's that like, because I think that that has

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to be overwhelming. Oh, it'san incredible experience. I mean you just
walk into the building and have thissense of service for the American people overwhelm
you. And it's a great honorof my life and i highlight of my
professional career. So you were partof the team at that is said,
look, we got to cut taxes. How does that process work? What

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are you guys analyzing before you comeup with a tax cut package? Tell
me about that entire process. Sure, So, I mean the Tax Cuts
and Jobs Act, which was enactedat the very end of Trump's first year,
was really a program that Congress hadworked on for the better part of
a decade quite frankly, you know, and had gotten all of the outside

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groups engaged. And so by thetime we got to the summer of twenty
seventeen and there was this mandate toreform the tax code and reduce the tax
burdener on the American people, itwas it was more or less a done
deal. We just needed to figureout what what the what the specifics ultimately
looked like, and then and thenand then you know, lining up the
votes to ultimately get the bill throughCongress. When you're deciding those levels,

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when you're talking about we're going toroll this rate back five percent, four
percent, whatever, We're going totake the capital gains tax back down,
how do you even come up withthose numbers, And when you're coming up
with those numbers, are you alternatelythinking of how much revenue were immediately kind
of cutting versus what kind of economicgrowth you're looking at. Because of this,
I mean, that seems like avery complicated equation. I mean,

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economic growth was central to putting theTax Cuts and Jobs Act together right at
the same time, before the billactually started moving, the members needed to
come together, including with President Trump, and figure out what deficit impact they
would be willing to accept, right, and they were willing to swallow a
one point five trillion dollar revenue lossand in order to get in order to

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get tax reform done. Now,most of that revenue loss is actually on
the individual side, so that's anindividual tax cut. The business components,
and the corporate components and the internationalcomponents. Almost all of those changes that
they paid for themselves because real reformwas involved. So in other words,
even though they were reducing the corporatetax rate, they were also you know,

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getting rid of special tax break provisionsfor these different companies and things like
that that really make the tax codeinefficient. Well, and that's part of
my issue with the tax code isit is so dense and so hard to
understand. A normal layperson doesn't havea clue what's in the tax code?
Were you would you ever be infavor of really simplifying the tax code and
doing someone a fair tax or aflat tax or one of the other streamline

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sort of consumption taxes that are outthere. Yeah. So one of Trump's
ideas that he really pushed Congress onthat that they weren't able to deliver on,
was getting the tax code so simplifiedthat the vast majority of people could
file with a postcard side, youknow, tax retterm. And unfortunately,
like I said, we weren't ableto get there. But I mean,

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I like, you know, Ithink that that is what real tax reform
ultimately looks like. And uh andand and you're going into next year with
the expiration of some of the taxcomponents on the individual side and small business
side, they're going to have Congressis going to have another opportunity, Hopefully
President Trump's going to have another opportunity, another bite at the apple. Uh
to uh to to revisit the notmistakes that were made in twenty seventeen,

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but to build on twenty seventeen.Uh and and implement something that looks even
more fundamentally like tax reform. It'sis it frustrating for you to see people
demagogue the tax cuts as the taxcuts for the rich? I mean,
we look, look, people acrossthe income spectrum got a reduction in their
in their in their uh and thetaxes that they paid uh. And you

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know, and even if you lookat you know, each sort of income
band and who's you know, payingwhat and all this, it's the rich
that are still paying more than thananybody else, right, And it's the
middle class, in the lower incomepeople who are actually going to be penalized
the most next year if the twentyseventeen tax cuts are allowed to expire.

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Let me ask you this before wehave to go, and that is about
deficits, because we're we're over atrillion dollars every year running deficits. And
it seems to me that modern monetarypolicy has taken over DC, even though
it's a fool's errand in my nerdyestimation, are we going to see any
seriousness about the deficit? Are wegoing to see any efforts to rein in

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spending under a new Trump administration?I think we will have to see folks
getting serious about the deficit, right, I mean, the government has grown
dramatically over the last four years,and you know, I mean it's just
a matter of math, right,And so yes, I do think that
the next and we're seeing it frommembers of Congressman they're already starting to work

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on plans to put into what theycall budget reconciliation that would reduce the deficit
and a bill that they hopefully willbe sent to President Trump's desk early early
next year. So I think,you know, it's it's unavoidable. You
know, interest rates are higher thanthey've been in you know, the generation,
and so it's it's just a matterof time. All right. Paul
Winfrey, thank you so much foryour time today, And hopefully you can

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have the presidency here about that spendingissue, and then we'll be best friends,
you and I. We'll get youget that spending under control. That'd
be fantastic. All right. That'sPaul Winfrey. Okay, coming up next,
we are going to talk a littlebit about the stuff that happened this
weekend, because obviously an assassination toTrump attempt was huge, but that's not
all that happened over the weekend.Something else happened today that I want to

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touch on next, and that isa federal judge has dismissed the documents case
against Donald Trump. And I'm notspeaking for Ross and I don't know if
you talked about this on a show, but Ross and I both were like,
out of everything that has been thrownat Donald Trump, this one felt
like the one that might be significant. I'll explain why it got dumped right

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after this. You're listening to mefrom the RNC in Milwaukee, thanks to
our friends at Rockymountain Voice dot com. We'll be right back. We have
a lot of guests plan today,but I want to get in some of
the news over the weekend that wasreally significant, and that is, first
of all, of Donald Trump wasshot, He is okay and provided us

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with probably one of the most iconicphotographs in the history of iconic photographs as
he stood in roses fists in defianceafter being shot. And since then,
a big story of the day isthat the federal judge that was overseeing the
document's case in Florida, Jack Smith, of course the special prosecutor, has
now decided to dismiss that case.And this is a huge blow to well

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to Jack Smith, to the SpecialProsecutor's office and more importantly, to law
fair. I truly am one ofthose people that believes that these cases against
Donald Trump are not necessarily about badbehavior. They are about helping out a
weak Republican president who is excuse me, a weak Democratic president who is running
for reelection. And the easiest wayto do that is to cast your opponent

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as some kind of criminal. Now, you guys know how I feel about
Trump. You know I'm not atrumpy Trumpet. But that being said,
beat him on policy, even beathim on personality, But to use the
Department of Justice the way that ithas been used is appalling to me.
And now US District Judge Eileen Cannonagreed in a ninety three page order she

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has granted Trump's bid to dismiss theindictment based on the unlawful funding and appointment
of Special Counsel Jack Smith, whobrought the charges against the president. You
may remember Jack Smith was appointed bythe White House. That's not how it
works, and the ruling, shesaid, the bottom line is this.
The appointments clause is a critical constitutionalrestriction stemming from the separation of powers,

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and it gives to Congress a consideredrole in determining the propriety of vesting appointment
power for inferior offices. The SpecialCouncil's position effectively usurps that important legislative authority,
transferring it to the head of adepartment, and in the process threatening
the structural liberty inherent in the separationof powers. Now Jack Smith's office has,

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as far as I know, notcommented, but this has got to
be a huge relief for the President, who has come out and said he
is going to name his vice presidenttonight. Now, there's a lot of
scuttle butt happening right now on themedia floor, and I've heard all kinds
of things from it's going to beNicki Haley too, it's going to be

(29:45):
Jadey Vance as everybody wildly speculates aboutwhat the President is going to do tonight.
But we will know tonight because notonly is he going to speak tonight,
which is I don't know if it'scompletely unprecedented in the grand scheme of
political state, but it is certainlyunprecedented in the modern era. The conventions
usually unfold in such a way thatyou know, it's kind of a build

(30:07):
up, build up, build upand then Thursday night the candidate comes in
and gets the nomination and makes abig speech, and then that's kind of
the icing all the cake in announcingthat he's going to speak today. Of
course, I think one of thereasons he's speaking today is he wants to
show all of these delegates that heis. Okay, Now, what is
he going to talk about? Russsaid earlier that he had read that Trump

(30:30):
said he trashed a perfectly good speechor an amazing speech to do an even
better one focusing on unity for theAmerican people. And if that's what he
does, I think it's a masterstroke. Because we've watched over the past few
days, and if you did whatI did and a road I didn't even
ask a rod this, but here'swhat I did. On Saturday, after
we found out the president had shot. We're sitting there watching television, and

(30:52):
I'm flipping from news station to newsstation to news station. So I'm flipping
around and a couple of things thatI found to be extremely appalling, one
of which was the way that thetalking heads on various networks were castigating Trump
for saying fight right after he'd beenshot. And I thought to myself.

(31:18):
Wait a minute, he's just beenshot, and you want him to take
that moment to say stand up andsay, hey, everybody, we need
to tamp down the rhetoric. Weneed to bring it under control now.
Joe Biden made comments yesterday, andI don't know if you heard this,
but we don't settle our differences atthe ballot box. We settle them at
the battle box. That is whatthe President said. I was going to

(31:41):
try and play it for you today, but it's so garbled and hard to
understand that it is. It's notworth trying to air that. I do
want to say a big fat blackeye to anyone at the Denver Post who
thought a headline in yesterday's paper thatsays gunman dies in attack was the way
to go. Are you people insaneover at the Denver Post? Have you

(32:06):
lost your ever loving minds? Imean, my goodness, Well, you
know what a man died. Yeah, he was trying to kill the president.
But he's one of us. Isthat what you said in the newsroom?
Because it's exactly how it looks inreal life. It's not a good
look. And yet here we areDenver Post. Well done for making it
across the Internet as one of theworst headlines about an assassination attempt that has

(32:29):
ever been created. And if youhaven't seen some of the well, let's
just say, less than flattering coverageand some of the sarcasm that's out there,
you really should seek it out,especially the way CNN covered previous attacks.
Abe Lincoln falls asleep at the play. I mean, they're just ridiculous

(32:51):
and over the top. But theDenver Post deserves condemnation for this, and
I hope that someone listening to thePost listens to this show and you can
go back and tell your editor thatI said, you guys suck for that
headline. Absolutely, we're going totake a very quick time out. When
we got back. We have whodo we have a runs? Oh,
we have Mary Margaret Olhan. Sheis with the Daily Signal. She's just

(33:14):
written a book about d transitioners,and we're going to talk to her next.
Obviously, Heritage has a lot ofstuff going on here at the convention.
Daily Signals part of the Heritage Foundation, so we'll talk to her next.
It's going to be a lot offun stuff in the next two hours.
From the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. Thanks to our friends from Rocky
Mountain Voice dot com and tell themwhen you We'll be right back. The

(33:39):
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by Rocky Mountain Boys on KAO one. We met them a nice free keeping,

(34:08):
sad thing. Welcome, Welcome,Welcome to the second hour of the
show. I just told our nextguest, Mary Margaret Olhanda. I'm like,
ooh, you get to hear mynew theme song. The listener made
it for me. Uh. MaryMargaret is a senior reporter covering culture and
politics for The Daily Signal. Sheis the proud eldest daughter of an Irish
Catholic family of eleven children, andshe's not that old. So that must

(34:31):
have been something your family must havebeen the one that everybody talked about.
Oh my gosh, Yes, it'sso much fun. I'm number two and
my youngest brother is twelve, soit is so much fun. Still.
We have a friend that has ninekids and when you see them coming,
they're like, you know, it'sbut what a joyful family they have.
What's your family like? That's sojoyful, so happy? You know,

(34:53):
holidays are the best. Even cleaningthe kitchen is a good time. Well,
you can complete my kitchen with yoursip any time you want. You've
recently written a book called d transTwo True Stories of Escaping Gender ideology cult.
Why did you choose that subject?Why is this something that you are
paying attention to me? Well,you know, I'm a reporter. I

(35:14):
cover culture issues and have for awhile now, and you know, my
interests are mainly in the life andfamily area, on particularly kids and the
protection of kids' innocence. And sowhen I started getting kind of aware of
how kids are being targeted by thesegender activists and surgeons and therapists and counselors,
it really bothered me. And so, you know, it came on

(35:35):
my radar that there were a lotof young people that were attempting these procedures,
and the mainstream media was saying,no, that's not happening, and
that really irked me because I knewit wasn't true. And the more I
dug into it and the more researchI did, the more I realized this
is a lie and it's being perpetratedby our media, and more and more
kids are succumbing to this from contenton social media. And so I listened

(35:57):
into a bunch of different live checksfrom detransitioners, young people who tried to
transition and then realize that's impossible.And when I got the opportunity to write
a book, I said, thisis a perfect place to do it,
because I want to tell their storiesfrom start to finish. I want to
include a lot of these vulnerable,intimated details that you can't really include in
a news hit, you know,or in a quick story. And so

(36:19):
we really dug in and it's reported. It's not commentary, it's really their
stories, you know, their thoughts, their feelings, and I just am
putting it out there for the worldto see. Did you feel or refined
any common threads that these kids wentthrough? Was where's there kind of a
narrative that started to emerge? Oh? For sure, I would say that,

(36:43):
you know, I should hedge andsay that everyone's story is unique,
right, and especially unique in theirown suffering. But I will say that
a lot of these young people camefrom a family where you know, one
parent was struggling or both parents werestruggling, you know, whether it's alcoholism,
or they're going through a divorce,or some other is emotionally absent,
things like that. And then Iwill also say that a lot of these

(37:05):
kids are on the spectrum, onthe autism spectrum, and they're not diagnosed,
so they don't know that like certainyou know, certain emotions or issues
they might be having, might havea clinical reason to explain them. And
instead they just feel like there's somethingwrong with them and they don't understand why.
And unfortunately, we know the genderactivists look for kids with autism who
tell them, oh, because youhave autism, you're more likely to be

(37:28):
transgender, which is a very horrible, horrible thing to target a child in
this way based on, you know, such a thing happening in their lives.
But that is in fact what happens. And so, you know,
a lot of these kids are lonely, they're feeling awkward at school, they
don't know what to do, andwhen they encounter this gender content, they
think this is the answer, right, And because these activists are telling them,

(37:51):
oh, you feel weird, youdon't feel like you're a woman,
or you don't like going through puberty, it's because you're actually not a woman,
You're you're a man. We haveseen that huge tick in teen girls
that have decided they are now boys. And I just found out within like
maybe the last week that the lastthat females are diagnosed at a far lower

(38:14):
rate than boys because they present differently. They have women or girls on the
spectrum, they have a whole differentrange of symptoms. Right, So does
that kind of compound is like maybewe're missing this over here, or do
these people already have diagnoses and thisjust kind of makes it easier for them
to be victimized. You know,a lot of these kids don't have diagnoses,
and the problem is that they dohave serious mental health issues, Like

(38:37):
across the board, everybody I talkedto had serious mental health issues. But
when they go for help to acounselor or a therapist, their actual issues
are ignored and they're told, oh, you're transgender, that's why you have
all these problems. Or if theysay I think I'm a guy, the
therapist says, Yep, you're aguy, that's why you're struggling. And
so they go into this with depression, with anxiety within and yet then they

(39:01):
undergo these procedures and at the endthey still have such a severe problem from
their mental health issues that were neveraddressed. Yeah. One of the things
that's happening right now at this verymoment, the CAST review came out.
That was a lengthy review by apediatrician in the UK that essentially she examined

(39:21):
all of the science and came outand said, we're not using good science
here, right, there's no goodscience to support a medical transition or a
child, or even a social transitionof a child. Yeah, have you
started to notice I've now seen inmajor news media outlets where they are now
saying, yeah, we why arewe doing this? And so do you

(39:44):
think the tide may be turning alittle bit? I believe the type the
tide is absolutely turning on this issue, in large part due to the detransitioners
who've been brave enough to speak outbecause when they were undergoing these things,
they didn't have anyone saying, right, you're gonna regret this. So I
think there's story are huge. Butalso, you know, some of them
have sued that scares these doctors alot. I know good and it also

(40:07):
I think helps people understand that thisis real. You know there's no lawsuits,
it's just kind of anecdotal, butonce the lawsuits show up, then
that's scary for these medical practitioners.But also, I think mainstream media has
been absolutely complicit in pushing this genderideology. And I'm not just saying that
they use the style guides of leftistgroups. They use the euphemisms gender farming

(40:28):
carries euphemism, right, and theydon't explain what it means, and they
want the American public to think ofit as something nice and caring, or
they'll say anti trans laws when they'retalking about a law banning transfergeries for kids
who are minors. So there's anactive attempt here to confuse the American public
about this and to impact the wayour culture looks at innocence and sexuality and

(40:51):
gender. And so when the mainstreammedia outlets do accurately report on this,
it's not because they're seeing the lightestbecause they're being forced to or of the
exposed as frauds. And so,you know, I've seen the New York
Times and the Washington Polls both recentlydo some legitimate reporting on this topic,
and I'm happy, but I thinkthat it's long overdue and even in these

(41:13):
stories, they'll say things like mostpeople don't regret their gender transitions, or
less than one percent of people don'tregret their gender transition, citing manipulated and
false data on this. So youknow, I have probably I have so
little respect for the mainstream media thatwhen they actually report what they're supposed to,
it's usually months behind, and theydo it as badly as possible.

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Well, the only reason I bringthat up is because I have friends who
are farm they're they're liberals. Yeah, and even they are saying, wait
a minute, we might need topump the brakes on this right, So
that group of people is now movingin a different direction, which is which
is very exciting. My guest isMary Margaret Olahan. She's a senior reporter
covering culture and politics. Her newbook, d trans True Stories and Escaping

(41:59):
the Gender Ideology Cult is out now. I put a link to it on
the blog. Mary Margaret, Thankyou so much. Thanks. I appreciate
that. Of course we have bignews. As a matter of fact,
I want to get to this reallyquickly. Trump has announced on you pull
that up for me a run.You just took that away, Ayern showed
me something and then he took itaway. But I want to read what

(42:21):
Trump just posted on truth Social andhe said, after lengthy deliberation and thought,
and considering the tremendous talents of manyothers, I have decided that the
person best suited to assume the positionof Vice President of the United States is
Senator JD. Vance of the greatState of Ohio. JD honorably served our
country in the Marine Corps. Graduatedfrom Ohio State in two years Summa cum

(42:44):
laud and is a Yale Law Schoolgraduate, where he was editor of the
Yale Law Journal and president of theYale Law Veterans Association. JD's book Hillbilly
Elegy became a major bestseller and movieas a champion the hard working men and
women of our country. JD hashad a very successful business career in technology
and finance, and now during thecampaign, will be strongly focused on the

(43:07):
people. He fought so brilliantly forthe American workers and the farmers in Pennsylvania,
Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, and far beyond. So JD.
Vance is a choice, and Ithink if you want to know why
you read that last line, hewill be strongly focused on the people.
He fought so brilliantly for the Americanworkers and farmers in Pennsylvania, Michigan,

(43:30):
Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, andfar beyond. He is going to be
the Midwest outreach guy. And I'dlove to know what you guys think.
We have our common spirit health textline up. It's really unwieldy for me
to text back to you guys today. I'm using a tablet. I'm not
using a laptop just because of thesetup here, so I can't respond one

(43:51):
on one, but I am goingto read some text messages. How do
you feel about JD. Vance beingthe vice president? Now? I know
Ross is not a fan of Jdvance, But I became a fan of JD.
Advance when I read hildii Elogy andit is an outstanding book. I
mean just really, really an engaging, outstanding book and I highly recommend it.

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And in it he tells the storyof his childhood. His mother was
a heroin addict. He was raisedprimarily by his grandmother. But he captures
in that book, he captures thesort of sort of spiritual economic drift that
occurs in these communities that have theirmeans of making a living stripped away,

(44:37):
specifically in cold country in Appalachia.He talks about the migration of people from
the Appalachian Mountains into Ohio to takeindustrial jobs at tire factories and things like
that those jobs are now gone,and he captures the kind of distress that
an entire region of the country.It resonates so strongly. As a matter

(45:00):
of fact, I hope Chuck's notmad that I'm telling this story. But
as I was reading it and jdVance was talking about the psychology of people
in that region, and even folkswho don't have a lot are extremely proud,
and even if they're on welfare,they don't want to feel like they're
on the dole. I mean,there's a lot of pride there. And

(45:22):
I kept punching Chuck and I waslike, these are your people, because
Chuck is from southeast Ohio and it'svery similar to where jd Vance is from.
So I'd love to hear what youguys think. I am going to
five six six nine zero is theis the text line? You know,

(45:42):
I don't hate it, I don'tlove it. Obviously, there's a strategic
component there that Trump thought was important, and for the person who said Mandy,
I see on X that Sydney Sweeneyis the surprise VP nominee, a
sure winner. Stay tuned, well, she could be two vice presidents with
the things that people pay attention toat you know. Never mind, I

(46:04):
shouldn't, I shouldn't pick on SidneySweeney. I actually think she's cute as
a button anyway. Jade Vance isalso thirty nine years old versus the three
old codgers running that from the wineYogi and my friend Mitzi, who lives
in Louisville, said Vance a goodpick. But I was hoping for Youngkin.
Well Youngkin was I don't think hewas ever Seriously, I don't know.

(46:28):
We're never gonna know the stuff,this person said. I'm so happy
jd. Vance will be VP.His book made the difference for me now.
Like I said, I love thebook. I've been a fan since
I read the book. Not afan of this pick, says this person.
I think there were better qualified individuals, so that's my feeling. But
I'm sure he'll make a good vicepresident. He's young and ambitious, so

(46:49):
hopefully he does very well. Mandy, Great Choice. Ross is a New
York City liberal posing as a libertarian. I can assure you that that is
not Ross Kaminski. He might begood, says this Texter, but we
should be more concerned with what isgoing to happen before the election. The
Democratic Party is desperate at the moment. You know. It's funny. Aroon
and I were talking about that todayas we were flying out here to Milwaukee.

(47:13):
And after Saturday, I just don'tthink the Democrats think they have a
chance because what happened on Saturday activateda lot of people that otherwise would maybe
have sat this out. They weren'tengaged, they weren't paying attention, but
just the the horrific nature of whathappens Saturday and where we are in our

(47:38):
country in terms of vitriol and thingsof that nature. I don't know that
the Democrats think there's anybody that canbeat Trump now. So why not leave
the old man in place and lethim get beat and then focus on all
the down ticket races and see whatyou can do to save that and just
come back in twenty twenty eight andtry again, because it's going to be

(48:00):
really, really challenging, really challengingto beat Donald Trump. After Saturday.
My god, I can't listen toyou anymore. I used to listen to
your show because I like to hearall sides of an argument. Now it's
just listening to a sick ephent forthe MAGA Party. We are at the
literal Republican National Convention, so Idon't know who you think we're going to

(48:22):
be interviewing at the Republican National Convention, but good news, we're going to
be doing this again from the DemocraticNational Convention, so you're going to be
able to hear people from all sides. At the Democratic National convey you just
have to wait a month to hearthis. But today we are at the
Republican National Convention, so yes,we're going to have more of those people

(48:44):
coming up. This sext or,Mandy Vance has the eyes of a devil,
possibly more trumpy than Trump. Iknow he doesn't have the crazy eyes.
To me, pull him a pictureof Dadie Vance so we can check
and see if he has crazy eyes, because I don't think he does.
You might disagree with him, hecertainly does have the ability to very clearly

(49:04):
convey he doesn't have crazy eyes.No, he doesn't. He does not
have crazy eyes. AFC has crazyeyes. You know. I can think
of males they're not in office anymore. But I can totally think of males
that are have the crazy eyes aswell. I don't think Jade Vance has
crazy eyes, Mandy. Maybe it'sinsurance for Trump. Something happens to Trump.
Trump. No, they're not crazyeyes though. No, he's got

(49:29):
nice blue eyes. Anyway, Mandy, at least uh way. Oh geez,
here we go. Hang on onesecond, I gotta go down here
because people are texting in really fast, Mandy. At least of Trump.
Whence the Republicans can run a strongersenatorial candidate when his seat comes up for
election. As Ross pointed out,he underperformed compared to the governor. That's

(49:50):
a good point, Mandy. It'snot bad, not great, meh.
Visiting Ireland today, it had toget my Mandy fixed. Lots of conversations
with the Urine people, European peopleabout Trump half four and half against.
I'd love to know, my littleIrish traveler, what do they think about
what happens Saturday? Does that changeanything for them? I'm just curious,

(50:10):
Mandy. Won't be listening. I'mtalking about your bs. I'm not talking
about today, I'm talking about ingeneral. We're an election cycle. You
guys, And it's funny that yousaid you were already gonna turn away,
but then you're still here to hearme respond to that. We're in an
election cycle right now, and I'mnot going to pretend like I'm some unbiased
reporter. I think Joe Biden's policieshave been an abject disaster for the United

(50:34):
States of America. I didn't votefor Trump in the primary, but he
is the candidate, and in mymind, we cannot afford four more years
at the policies of Joe Biden.Not that Joe Biden's going to be around
for four more years. I mean, honestly, if you are a Democrat
voting for Joe Biden, who areyou voting for? Because the man is
not going to be here for fourmore years, certainly not any capacity to

(50:57):
run the country. So I saw, I saw. Somebody sent this to
me and I should have taken apicture of it, but it said,
I sure hope the nuclear codes andare the nuclear button? And the I
fell down and I can't get upbutton or not on the same piece of
equipment, and I was like,yeah, okay, we don't need to
be doing that. This person's hada safe and rational choice, not a

(51:19):
surprise. Mandy Vance is a millennialwith a beard. Kyle Clark is jealous.
We shall see, we shall seetime out. Doesn't he wear an
eye patch some of the time.I'm serious, although maybe I am confusing
with someone else I've seen on FoxNews. That is Dan Crawford from Texas
who was wounded in service and lostan eye. So that is Dan Crawford

(51:44):
in Texas, not at all jdVance. He does not wear an eye
patch unless he's dressed up as apirate. Mandy Aoc has Marty Feldman eyes
a little bit, but she doesn'thave a wandering eye like Marty Feldman had.
Mandy. If that's their plan,it really defeats their argument about this
election being about saving democracy. IfTrump were that bad, then why would
they be okay with just giving up? Because I don't think they can win.

(52:07):
I don't think there's anybody that canput up against him to win.
Now. What happened on Saturday wasa game changer in a fundamental way that
we have never seen before, andthey know it. So why waste another
candidate by trying to replace him whenthere's really not anybody else that is going
to win. Why do that?Why waste the political capital? Why don't

(52:30):
anger all of the people in yourparty who voted for this guy, who
want him to be the candidate.Why would you do that? That doesn't
make any sense. Sometimes you gotto take the l and I promise you
the strategy in my mind goes likethis. The Democratic Party says, Okay,
we're not going to win. Whatdo we do to mitigate the down
ticket losses? That's thing number one. Oh, Dan Crenshaw, thank you,

(52:51):
win Yogi Dan Crenshaw, not Crawford, and and all the Texters,
thank you. I'm not as badas Biden, but I'm getting close.
Thanks Texter. Thanks a lot.Anyway, I think the Democrats are already
planning what they're going to accuse DonaldTrump of. What they're gonna throw at
him, what kind of accusations,what kind of impeachment charges they can gin

(53:12):
up on this one, And they'rejust planning to basically kneecap his administration and
they won't have to worry about it. They did it successfully in twenty sixteen.
You know how much time was wastedin twenty sixteen talking about fake stuff
that we all knew was a liethat the FBI knew was a lie when
they investigated it, and yet theydid a fantastic job of preventing other really

(53:34):
great policy positions from being passed,the wall being built. Think about all
the stuff that got left on thetable because DC was just awash with people
accusing Donald Trump of everything. Ithink that's the strategy. I think we're
going to see it unfold when weget back. Who do we have when
we get back a run? We'vegot so many guests today right now,
let me see here. Oh,we got Royal Oaks coming up. We're

(53:57):
going to talk with Royal about theshooting on Saturday, so we'll have more
information about that right after this.Super excited to be here. Thanks to
our friends at Rockymountain Voice dot comfor sponsoring our trip. If you don't
visit Rockymountain Voice dot com daily,you are missing on great right leaning content,
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(54:21):
to do a one stop shop andsee the news for the day, you
can just go there. Joining menow, Royal Oaks. ABC News legal
analyst is on to talk about thenow dismissed Trump classified documents case. Royle
I'm guessing that Judge Aileen Cannon didnot say that Trump would come across like
an old man with a bad memory. But this is another case that we'll

(54:45):
see the light of day about classifieddocuments. Tell me about how all this
unwinds. Yeah, this judge definitelydid not get into the whole cognitive ability
issue. This is Aileen Cannon,the federal judge appointed by Donald Trump a
few years ago who's handling the Floridacriminal case against Trump. She has dismissed
the matter today a ninety three pagedecision. She based her dismissal on the

(55:08):
fact that when Joe Biden's Attorney GeneralMerrick Island, appointed Jack Smith as special
counsel, that appointment broke federal lawin two ways. First, a special
council, according to this judge,may only be appointed by the president,
and then the Congress has to confirmand approve the appointment. Here, again

(55:30):
no presidential appointment, it was theattorney general and no Senate approval. The
second argument by this judge was thata special council's budget can't be a black
check. Funds have to be approvedby Congress, and here Congress hasn't approved
a dime. The Attorney General hasgreen lit twenty five million dollars in checks
for Jack Smith, and the noapproval by Congress. So those are the

(55:52):
grounds for this blockbuster decision. Letme ask you this royal. The legal
scholarship of alien Cannon has been reallyinteresting to watch. What is the take
on her legal scholarship on this particularruling, because from the left, reflexibly

(56:12):
it is, of course she lethim off, he appointed her. But
what are legal scholars saying, Well, there was one decision she made some
months ago that came under a lotof criticism from both sides of the aisle.
It was the question of what arewe going to do about these hundreds
of documents that Donald Trump allegedly tookfrom the White House tomorrow lago, and
Trump said, hey, we needan independent monitor, some retired judge is

(56:37):
beyond approach to sit through all thisstuff and figure out what's privileged and what's
top secret and what isn't. Well, that argument wasn't very strong legally,
and even though alien Cannon said,yeah, I'm going for it, it
was immediately struck down by the EleventhCircuit Court of Appeals and the Eleventh Circuit
consists of twelve judges, seven ofwhom were apported by Republican appoint precedents.

(57:00):
I have a home more appointed byDemocrat president, So it was a little
surprising that they so quickly and vehementlyrejected her position. Since then, a
lot of people have said, well, that shows she doesn't have much experience
in criminal law. She hasn't beenon the federal bench for law. She
was appointed by Trump, so we'rejust going to assume she makes nothing but
pro Trump decisions. So a lotof people, including two of her colleagues,

(57:22):
said to her, hey, whydon't you step aside? She refused,
and now she's getting the final wordat least at the trial court level.
Here. Of course, politically,a lot of people point out that
very many Democrat appointed judges have beenhandling other Donald Trump cases, and people
on the left don't seem to havea problem with that. So really you
have to evaluate case by case whetherthey're doing a good job or not,

(57:43):
as opposed to just looking to seewho appointed them. Is there any kind
of feedback right now on this particularruling in terms of its legal scholarship.
Yeah, So the idea that youhave to jump through those hoops. I
described a couple of minutes ago toa point, a special council the Senate
has to confirm that the president hasto appoint. There's no blank check.

(58:06):
Those rules relied on this by thisjudge really haven't been enforced that way in
a bunch of other cases. Forexample, Robert Muller, remember he was
the Special council on that Russia collusiondeal during Trump's term. Before that,
back in the day, there wasthe Iran Contra controversy and scandal involving Ronald
Reagan. Lawrence Walsh was appointed.All these previous appointees were done in the

(58:28):
way that Jack Smith was appointed,and so many people will say, well,
you know, you're just ignoring theSupreme Court president. This judge said,
I think you're misreading the key SupremeCourt President. But eventually the US
Supreme Court will get the final word. So that is what we're waiting for
now. We're waiting for an appealby the prosecutor. Have we gotten that
indication yet? Yeah. Absolutely,they're going to go to the Eleventh Circuit.

(58:51):
They're also going to say, hey, we want you to jump Judge
Ayleen Cannon because we think she's biasedand incompetent. Whoever loses that the Eleventh
Circuit will then go to the SupremeCourt. The significance for Trump at this
point, of course, is thatmission accomplished. This is another delay.
The ultimate decision on the Florida cationnow will not be rendered until way beyond
November's election. And that's what wewanted to know. Royal Oaks. I

(59:15):
appreciate your insight today, ABC NewsLegal analyst. Thanks for joining us today
to go over this. You betall right, that is Royle. We're
going to take a quick time outwhen we get back. Nick Anderson has
been on the show before. Heis an Aussie who is now an American
and a super super guy to bootNick Adams. I'm sorry, Nick Adams,

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and he's a super guy to bootand we're going to talk to him
next. So keep it right hereon KOA live from the Republican National Convention
in Milwaukee. It's hotter than anever mind, I can't say that.
I am in a mixed company.It's hot, but inside it's nice and
cool, and I am joined bya fan favorite. Nick. I don't
know if I ever told you this. When you're on my show, I

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get all these text messages on textinglike, he just sounds so smart.
Anybody with an accent you already getlike you're you're already up here and an
Australian accents super cool. Well,Mandy, can't thank you for having me
on. I'm glad that your listenershave got such impeccable and unimpeachable taste.
If only it was the visual medium, then there might even be bigger fans.

(01:00:21):
And the heat you're talking about isnot only outside, it's now inside.
But you know, look it's it'shotter than Hayda's. If I can
finish your well, I was goingto say something else, I know,
I know, Well, I'm justtrying to clean it up for you.
I was gonna go hooker in church. I'm like a hooker in church right
now. That's Mandy Connell. Iknow, I thought I just go there.

(01:00:43):
No, look, it is hot. But I tell you what,
in all seriousness, the passion andthe fire is in here right now for
the president. I want to askyou this because you're an official surrogate for
the Trump campaign, and a lotof my listeners don't know. There are
people who are actually kind of assto be the guy who comes out and
Trump can't be other radio with me, so you come out and talk about

(01:01:05):
his policy positions. How did thatcome about? Look, I've been very
blessed to live the American dream andbe able to have a relationship with the
President. It began. I supportedhim from the sixteenth of June twenty fifteen,
Manty when he came down the escalator. And it was a difficult choice,
not so much in not wanting tosupport him, but I knew Governor

(01:01:29):
Perry personally, Doctor Ben Carson blurbdmy first book, Governor Huckabee. I
was a regular on his radio showat the time, so I had a
connection to at least five or sixof the seventeen candidates. But something just
told me instinctually that no matter howgood a political candidate was, the United

(01:01:52):
States had reached the point where itreally needed a sledgehammer. It needed somebody
that transcended politics. Immediately identified thatin President Trump, and so I began
supporting him. He saw me ontelevision, he would repost my opinion pieces
that I was writing. That's kindof how the how the love affair between

(01:02:14):
me and him, and that's howit's been described in the Washington Post and
elsewhere began on the third of Marchtwenty seventeen, not even five weeks into
his presidency, he saw me onFox and Friends. He went on Twitter,
he declared my book Green Card Warriorand must read, and said that
I was a great American. Atthe time, it was the first time
in the history of the country thata sitting president had ever endorsed a book,

(01:02:39):
and of course it was the firstof many first with this president.
He did the same thing six monthslater on the twenty fifth of August.
And then when my book Trump andChurchill Defended as of Western Civilization was released
in twenty twenty, I think oneof the times we spoke great work.
By the way, I'm not goingto lie, I was like, okay,

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now, I mean I opened thatbook and I was like, okay,
give it your best shot. You'renow comparing a man who guided civilization
through World War Two with Donald Trump, and I wasn't buy what you were
selling. But it's a great book, and you did a really good job
making that case. Well, thankyou. I appreciate new Gingrich wrote the
forward and the short story is Mandythat President Trump absolutely fell in love with

(01:03:23):
that book. Why that it wason a resolute desk. You took it
up with him seam to the residence, and so that is really where the
relationship began. We had a call, and then I was appointed to the
border of the Wilson Center, whichis part of the Smithsonian Institution. It's
a six year appointment. And then, to be honest with you, our

(01:03:45):
relationship blossomed even more once he wasout of Washington, and he just wrote
the forward to my most recent book, which is Alpha Kings, the roadmap
for every young man to unlock theirfull potential. So I've been very blessed.
The President asked me to be asurrogate in February of last year,

(01:04:08):
and I immediately said yes because Itruly do believe that he is a Churchilean
type figure. I do believe thathe is one of the great. This
is a one in a century typeguy. He meant. This is not
just the irregular garden variety candidate.This is a man that has clearly a

(01:04:30):
hedge of protection around him, asense of destiny, a sense of calling
strength and resilience and defiance on alevel that I don't think we've ever seen
before. Well, we certainly sawit on Saturday, and we talked earlier
about the photograph. That is Ithink, probably as of right now,
the most iconic image of the twentyfirst century. I want to ask you,

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do you have any reservations or doyou give any credence to the criticisms
that people have of him being alittle too rough and tumble of him,
you know, being braggadocious about thingsthat don't really matter, and sort of
the more bombastic parts of his personalitythat are highly criticized by people who don't

(01:05:13):
like the men and also don't likehis policies. If it wasn't for chur
Chilean type leadership, I would bespeaking Japanese and eating sushi now and ultimately
at the end of the day,if people can't see. And by the
way, those very kind of criticismsthat are often made about President Trump that

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you outline, being braggadocious, beingruff, being all of that kind of
stuff, exactly the same things weresaid about Churchill. That's why I wrote
the book. Was not a popularman much of his practical career the establishment.
He had all the same enemies.If I if I gave you a
newspaper article written in nineteen forty onein the British Press, and I took

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out or I sharpied the names,and I said, Mandy, who is
this article about? You would probablysay Donald Trump. I mean, it
is so identical the criticisms, theunrest that people had about him being the
leader. The threat to democracy isa dictator doesn't listen to anyone. He

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only listens to himself, all thatkind of stuff. So look, I
mean, I believe that all thetruly greatest people in our history, Mandy
are imperfect. Great, that's justthe way we were act. We're all
perfect. But listen, God hada very special day when I was born

(01:06:45):
the fifth of September nineteen eighty four. But no, look, you know,
I think that he is someone thatis truly very special, President Trump.
And Saturday, I think probably madethat even more clear for people across
not only the country, but theworld. Someone sent me a friend of

(01:07:06):
mine in Australia sent me a bannerthat had been put up on the side
of a high major highway in Australia, and it said Trump is taking bullets
for us, for all of us. Wake up Australia. Wow, right,
I mean, do you think that'sit? I just heard someone to
make this statement a little while agothat I thought it was kind of an
interesting take that Trump brings people tothe political sphere that were not necessarily political

(01:07:31):
people, and they almost have apaternal view of him, like he is
kind of the paternal like leader thatthey've been looking for to guide them through
this morass that is politics. ManyMandy, I'm going to let you in
on a little bit of secret.I would only do this on the Mandy
Collin shop. My brand is obviouslyAlpha male, tough guy, and Alpha

(01:07:59):
Male's tough. I was dont cry, but I had something in my eyes.
Well that's on Saturday there, somethinggot in there. I mean,
I don't know what the shop though. Necker waiting to find out what's going
on. He's down on the groundfor a minute and a half or so,
and then all of a sudden hecomes up and puts that fist up
and it was like you're almost itwas like a visceral physical reaction. It

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was. It was, And that'sand I just want to say to you
that I felt I lost my fatherthree years ago, and Donald Trump to
me is a fatherlike figure. Imean, I really seen that way and
in that moment, I kind ofsaw my dad up there because again just
a similar man to Donald Trump inmany ways, and and it was just

(01:08:44):
it was I was sobbing. Iwas so horrified that. And but what
really got me, man, he'snot so much the shooting, And in
that first moment there, I didn'teven really know that it was a shooting.
But what got me was, likeyou say, his reaction when he
stood and he had discussed I meanaskew. You know, you usually used
to this immaculate, definitely immaculately dressedperson, and I just thought, wow,

(01:09:10):
this is it hurt me seeing aman of that size on the ground
get me back up, pumping thatfist. It really moved me. Well,
Nick Adams is my guest. Yougot a new book coming out.
Are you just sarrogetting now or whatare you doing? I'm just sarrogetting now,
Mandy Connell. But people can followme on Twitter at Nick Adams in

(01:09:30):
USA, Facebook at Nick Adams inAmerica. You can go to my website
Nick ADAMSUSA dot com. We're doinga best to get the president elected,
all right. That is Nick Adamsa fan favorite. You come back anytime
you got another book there, Nick. We will be back after this.
We are broadcasting live from the RepublicanNational Convention in Milwaukee. Thanks for our

(01:09:53):
friends at Rockymountain Voice dot com.The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle
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It's Mandy Connell. It's presented byRocky Mountain Boys. I'm KOA ninety

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four ONEm bek Ansy's three. Mandyconnallkee you sad thing, Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to the third hour of theshow, and I am thrilled to
be seated next to a fellow talkshow host. He is Dan O'Donnell on
WISN here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.You guys have a great talk radio market

(01:10:39):
here. Well, thank you.I do appreciate it. None of us,
however, here in Milwaukee have alistener made theme song. However,
that is a bump, as thekids says, isn't that awesome? I
love you should hear the whole thing. It's amazing, But we don't want
to need to talk about me anymore. I wanted to bring you on because
a lot of people who've never beenhere, so you don't really have a
sense of how disruptive the RNC is. For Milwaukee, Boy howdy, it

(01:11:03):
is hard to get anywhere from pointA to point B right now. Essentially
the downtown is a ghost town everybodyhas known for years now and certainly in
the last couple of months. Ifyou don't need to be in downtown Milwaukee,
which is really obviously the business andcommercial hub of the entire region,
just go. Basically, it's impossibleto get off of the freeway. Pretty

(01:11:29):
much every freeway exit heading into Milwaukeeis closed, so you actually have to
get off a little bit north orwest of the city and then kind of
drive in. So just imagine theentire city of Denver, and geographically Milwaukee
is I think roughly the same size. You have a much bigger population,
obviously, but we are a veryspread out city. The entire downtown area

(01:11:50):
is much smaller than Denver. Butjust imagine it completely shut down. And
that's what you've got here. Iwanted to ask, how do Wisconsin I
feel about this? Because you guys, are you still a you know?
Are you purple or are you red? Are you blue? Where are you
now? Oh? My goodness,Wisconsin is probably the ultimate purple state.

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In fact, out of all ofthe swing states, the ones that are
likeliest to determine the presidential race thisNovember, I would argue that Wisconsin is
the closest we typically float back andforth. In fact, in twenty sixteen,
Donald Trump won Wisconsin by roughly thirtythousand votes. In twenty twenty,
he lost Wisconsin by roughly twenty thousandvotes. Okay, We're a state of

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five point seven five point eight millionpeople, so I've got several million votes
in twenty thousand to thirty thousand votestypically separates the two candidates. Not only
that, going all the way backto two thousand and four, the two
thousand and four presidential election decided againby less than a percentage point. George
W. Bush very narrowly lost toJohn Carey. So this is a state

(01:12:59):
that's right down the middle. Andas you can imagine, people in Milwaukee
is a pretty democratic city. Isright about ninety ninety five percent Democrat.
I mean, it's a typical bluecity. If you hate Donald Trump,
if you hate Republicans, you're reallyticked off. If you love Republicans,
if you're anywhere in the suburbs ofMilwaukee, which is like one of the
most conservative areas of the state.You love it. You love the fact

(01:13:20):
that the RNC is here. Youprobably aren't going to go down to Milwaukee
for much. The brewers are onthe All Star breaks, so there's not
a whole lot of reason to comeback. Nothing going on right now.
And Milwaukee actually in the summertime.We just finished last weekend. We bill
it as the world's largest music festival. It's it used to be eleven straight
days of just NonStop music. Nowit's three straight weekends and it's just a

(01:13:43):
huge party. In a couple ofweeks, we have the Harley Davidson Festival.
You guys have to make the mostof summer because your winters it is
imagine, imagine it's like Colorado,but without the beautiful snow and skiing at
winters. It's like a totally flatColorado. Know with all of this,
we got like two feet of snowin a day January, I mean,

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so yeah, We've got the HarleyFest with Red Hot Chili Peppers coming to
town. We have got where thecity of Festivals, your city festival city
were known as, because we reallydo have a festival culture. Where downtown
is bustling, and now it's justcompletely shut down. I mean it's a
ghost town outside that security point,so hard to get just figure out which

(01:14:27):
way to go. It's a lotgoing on. I want to ask you
about the now announced pick that DonaldTrump has said JD. Vances his vice
president, and then if you readthe announcement that he said out on True
Social he specifically starts to reference Midwesternstates at the bottom he's going to be
out talking. Does that make adifference in Wisconsin because JD. Vance is

(01:14:47):
an Ohio guy, which I realizenot Wisconsin, but Midwestern guy. Does
that make a difference. I thinkit does to some extent. I'm not
one that believes in the geographical drawa running mate, if that makes any
sense. I think Vance is muchstronger on the ticket because he can so
forcefully yet articulately make the case forDonald Trump and make the case for populist

(01:15:12):
conservative MAGA values and the MAGA ticket. This also solidifies this as there was
some thought that there was going tobe balance on the ticket. Marco Rubio,
even though he's very conservative, issort of seen as being more from
that establishment wing of the party thatthat might be the pick to balance it
out. I think Trump is reallyleaning into the idea that this is the

(01:15:35):
Maga populist party. Now. Ihave a theory that I just formulated a
little while ago, and that isTrump's only got four more years, right,
he knows he's not going to berunning for reelection. I think that
he chose jd Vance at least inpart because he perceives that if jd Vance
goes on to become president, hewill continue the mantle of Trump politics.

(01:15:56):
Yeah, what do you think?Oh? Absolutely, I think that is
one hundred percent. Look bad isthirty nine years old? Okay. If
let's say Trump Advance win in November, he'll be one of the younger vice
presidents that we've had in recent memory, and in fact, I think the
youngest VP since Richard Nixon was Eisenhower'svice president. You're going back all the
way to nunteen fifty two, sohe is going to be If you would

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then be elected president, he wouldbe forty three forty four years old in
the election of twenty twenty eight.That would put him as one of the
youngest presidents in American history. Ithink Teddy Roosevelt at age forty three is
the youngest ever. So this isa guy who is being advanced. I
remember he's still a freshman senator.He's still in his first art. He

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was just elected less than two yearsago. So this is a guy who
has had just a remarkable assent inpolitics. But clearly I think is someone
that Trump sees himself in and asyou said, it keeps the party under
the influence of the Trump brand ofpopulist concern to something, Dan o'donald,
I appreciate you making time for me. You can listen to him on the

(01:17:02):
iHeart radio app in Crystal Clear DigitalAudio at WISN and Milwaukee. You and
I should do a cruise in tourtrip together. I would absolutely love to.
Dan is a cruise and tour guytoo, so I would love to
do one with you in the nearfuture. We'll have to make that happen.
Mandy. If your listeners have notyet done a cruise into our trip
with you, I can tell you. I just got back. I just

(01:17:24):
got back a couple of weeks agofrom Venice. We had a private ship.
This is how good these people are. I took ninety of my closest
friends from Venice down the Croatian coast, the Adriatic c we're doing, uh,
Normandy for getting me at anniversary ofD Day, London to Normandy to
Paris in a couple of weeks.I mean, you have got to go
with Maddy. I'm told Mandy,your husband was very nearly my guide two

(01:17:47):
years. Yes, he was verynearly when I died for Ireland until he
got coches. I gave him COVID. He'll never forgive me for that,
Dan o'donald. I so appreciate youstopping by all of course, anytime,
Mandy. All right, we gotto take quick break. We'll be right
back after this. Super exciting assoon as we get down over here at
the media row where we are.And if you've not seen the videos that

(01:18:09):
a Rod has been pumping out,can I just have a moment. And
I realized that this might seem silly, but if you guys could see how
quickly a Rod turns these videos around, it feels like voodoo to me,
like magic. It just says youwere incredibly an incredibly talented young man.
My work or it's a cool appon his phone that I don't know how

(01:18:31):
to work. I don't know,but He's putting out a lot of videos
there all over our social media,so be sure and check out our Instagram,
our Facebook, our Twitter at CHOIColorado and check it all out there.
A lot of you have been weighingin about the choice about JD Vance
on the Common Spirit Health text line, and yes, I can see the
text line, but typing back isreally hard because I'm using my tablet.

(01:18:54):
So let me answer some of thesequestions. One, you can text us
now at five to six six.I know a lot of people are asking,
and I don't know if it's thesame person or if it's different people
saying, Hey, when will yoube interviewing Colorado Chairman Dave Williams. I
want to make sure I hear thatinterview. There is a zero percent chance
that I am going to sit downand have a conversation with Dave Williams.

(01:19:16):
I have no interest. I don'twant to hear what he has to say.
I really don't. I've made upmy mind about him based on his
actions up until this point, andI have no need to amplify anything that
he says now. That being said, later on in the week, we
will be talking to some delegates thatare here because I want to know what
is the process to become a delegate. I don't know, do they pay

(01:19:39):
for their own way, what hasto happen there. But I will tell
you I've actually been kind of alittle bit pleasantly surprised at the diversity of
the crowd for Trump delegates. Youknow, the stereotype that everybody in the
Republican Party is a whitey, whiteman is not necessarily holding true. Yeah,

(01:19:59):
there's lot of white folks here,but there's also a lot of people
that have a different ethnicity, andit's it's kind of interesting to see that.
We're going to go over and talkto as many as we can over
at the Five Serve Center. Nowwe've gotten word. We keep getting like
little snippets of news and words thatyou know, Oh, the President's going
to speak soon. From what weunderstand, the President is going to be

(01:20:20):
speaking tonight. He is going tobe introducing his vice presidential candidate, which
is jd Vance. Someone just hitthe text line to say, can't wait
until the VP debate. Kamala willget shredded. This is going to be
really a fascinating, I hope,much much better debate than the debate that
happened between President Biden and President Trump. That one was an unmitigated disaster and

(01:20:45):
almost painful to watch and be apart of. But hopefully we'll see some
interesting fireworks unless, of course,commonly can't get past what was before,
and the passage of time will wearher day, so we need to have

(01:21:06):
time. That was a rod doingthe Biden nois for It was not bad,
not bad at all, I willtell you this. So we got
that going for us. And inthe meantime, coming up in the next
segment, we have a gentleman thatis with an organization called the National Election
Protection Project, and I am interestedto hear what he has to say because

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as we enter into this election cycle, I am becoming increasingly afraid that if
Donald Trump loses, because right nowI don't see a path to victory unless
something else crazy happens. And atthis point we should all be ready for
anything crazy to happen, because we'rein crazy town right now. We saw
that this past weekend. But ifDonald Trump loses, how are we supposed

(01:21:54):
to believe that? One really?The Trump's speech starts tonight at eight o
clock on KOA. It is seveno'clock our time. We are in Central
time eight o'clock and we will airit in its entirety tonight on KOWA.
So if you can't watch or youwant to listen, go ahead and do
that with us tonight at eight o'clock. We will be right back from the

(01:22:15):
Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. Broughtto you, of course, by our
friends at the Rockymountain Voice dot com. Rocky Mountain Voice dot com your destination
every day for right leaning content.Check it out, you will love it,
and we will be right back herbroadcasting live from Panther Arena. It
is one of the venues from theRepublican National Convention in Milwaukee, and we've

(01:22:40):
had a really busy day full ofshows. I would strongly recommend you go
check out the podcast for the interviewsthat you miss say will be up a
little bit later, and you reallyshould check out the social media that a
Rod is putting together. My nextguest is Josh Finley. He's the director
of National Election Protection Project from theTexas Texas Policy Institute Texas Public Policy from

(01:23:02):
based I just sold Josh. I'mlike, Josh, we're really tired right
now, so I'm sorry if Ireally do do a wonderful show, I
promise, but we'll sleepy right now. But that's okay. What are you
guys doing with election integrity? Whatis happening right now? Well, you
know, we're really focused on electionprocess, right. One thing we signed
twenty twenty is that the left willnot hesitate to weaponize election process to defeat

(01:23:26):
the other sides. Right, wesaw that with the last minute changes that
they did under the pretext of COVID, and they just implemented crazy changes to
the election process, you know,twenty four hour voting vans that would go
around and pick up ballots, dropboxes that were basically cardboard boxes, no
locks, anything like that. Andwe're committed this time around to make sure

(01:23:47):
that the right has an answer tothis that they can't weaponize the election process,
that if they make changes, theyhave to increase transparency and security so
that we can all have confidence thatour votes are being counted in the correct
way. You know, I thinka lot of people don't realize because you
know, you see memes flying aroundon social media, but a lot of
people don't realize that a lot ofthe stuff that we do here in the

(01:24:09):
United States of America, they don'tdo in other countries because they've done it
and it's ended up in corruption.Why is it that message more readily available
or why are we not talking aboutthe fact, like, look, nobody
else says it this way because theyknow that it's right for corruption, and
yet here we are, Well,we should be talking about it a lot
more. I mean, just acouple of weeks ago, I was speaking

(01:24:30):
to a group of members of theBrazilian Congress. We were talking about our
election integrity operations. And remember Brazilis not always the model of democracy.
They have their issues. But whenwe talked about our voter ID laws,
for example, they thought we werejust crazy. They require finger printing in
Brazil to be able to vote,and they thought the fact that in some

(01:24:53):
places we don't even have to showan ID to vote was just insane.
So we really do need to drawattention to the way that in in some
ways our laws are far behind othercountries. So in what way do you
ensure easy access for people to beable to cast a ballot? Because what
happens from the other side is theycome on and say, you're just trying
to keep black people from voting,as if black people don't have identification,

(01:25:15):
which in and of itself is insultingand racist. But how do you make
sure everyone can vote while also ensuringthe integrity of the process. Well,
so you're exactly right. This isall about accessibility, and we need to
check three things with every election,every time people vote. First of all,
we need to know who is voting. We need to know who the

(01:25:35):
people are. Second of all,we need to know that they are eligible
to vote. And then third weneed to know that their votes are counted
and processed in the proper way.And there are mechanisms out there to be
able to verify all of these things. To your point about in ID,
it's easy to get an ID foranything, right, I mean, there's
so many things in this country thatwe know you need an ID for.

(01:25:58):
Just about everybody has one, andeven if you're not driving, if you're
not doing whatever else, you canstill get an ID. And so it's
really just a matter of making surethat when people go to cast their ballot
the process is secure and transparent.Because I'm convinced that just about everybody has
what they need to vote right now, we're just not enforcing it and asking
for it when they show up atthe ballot box in Colorado. I don't

(01:26:20):
know if you're familiar with our electionrules. They send a ballot to everyone,
and if you're an independent, youget two ballots. You get a
Republican and a Democratic ballot. Anda friend of mine who owns or runs
a think tank in Colorado, sentone of his people around an apartment complexes
and they found gobs and gobs ofballots just laying because those people had moved,

(01:26:43):
you know, they didn't change herdress. And he said, in
a small local election, those wereenough ballots out there to swing a small
local election one way or the other. Maybe not the presidential vote, right,
but the small elections that are decidedby a handful of votes. It
would be so easy to just goand swing the election for you, and

(01:27:04):
the chances of you getting caught areso slim. That's the frustrating part.
So are you, guys, areadvocating for specific policies or what are you
doing to in this election ensure theintegrity of the system. So in this
election, we are advocating for specificpolicies. But one thing that we're really
doing in our target states is weare working with election administrators. One thing

(01:27:28):
that we've found is that the electionlaws in a state that the legislature passes
the kind of like the blueprint fora house. Those election administrators on the
ground at the county level are theones that build that house, and sometimes
they don't follow the blueprints exactly likethey're designed. So what we're really doing
is getting in on the ground withthese election administrators and making sure that they

(01:27:49):
are implementing the best process. So, for example, another mail in voting
state is Nevada, where we doa lot of work. It's a target
state and they have a highly transientpopulation with the casino workers in Vegas.
And what we worked with the countyofficials there on was a project where we
could send people a form that theycould fill out and say, you know,

(01:28:13):
this person is registered at my house. Did they no longer live there?
And I stify that. And theninstead of getting them removed from the
voter rolls, which you don't know, nobody the other side doesn't want,
but we have to always fights againstthat, we get them moved to an
active status so they don't get amail in ballot you don't have all of
these extra ballots, but they're alsonot removed from the ballot process, so

(01:28:34):
if they should vote to vote,they can still vote. That's exactly right,
which is important because people do move, they and they do have situations
like that. See that. Andthis is one of those things where John
and I just heard you say that. I'm thinking to myself, who could
possibly have a problem with that?That's right? But I'm guessing you guys
run up against some opposition all thetime, Yeah, all the time.
You know. The thing is theother side's not looking for common sense solutions,

(01:28:56):
right, and that's a problem.Well, the other side. I
don't want to cast as versions.We're trying to reunity today, our unity.
Right. How can people find outmore about what you're doing and get
more information, go to Texas policydot com, the Texas Public Policy Foundation,
or the Election Protection Project. Wealso have a podcast out on you
excellent yeah on YouTube that we havea lot of really interesting guests talking a

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lot about what the left is doingas far as campaign finance and now the
right needs to catch up. There'sa lot of things happening with the weaponization
of government right now, both throughBiden's executive order turning government agencies and to
get out the vote operations and anissue an initiative by the left to take
away the power from certifying elections fromlocal governments. I had not heard about

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that. Well, we need totalk about that. If you've got a
mintion, Yeah, let's do it. Where do they do it? So
down in Georgia battleground states that everybody'sconcerned about, the Democrat Party has sent
three letters to election administrators telling themthat they cannot ask questions about certifying the
election. Right. They're saying thatit is the term of art that they're

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using is that is a ministerial task. That you don't have the opportunity as
a Board of Elections member to askquestions about your election before you certify.
And that's a problem because then who'sasking questions. Issues arise, and in
fact an issue arose in Bibb Countyand the recent primary election there that's down
in Macon, Georgia, where peoplewere mailed the wrong ballots and this was

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written about in the news. Everybodykind of knew that they were mailed the
wrong ballots. A Board of Electionsmember just asked the simple question of how
many people were mailed the wrong ballots? It seems like a basic bas question.
Yeah, right from the left.Had a lawyer from a nonprofit group
down there to advise the county attorneyto tell this Board of Elections member,

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you don't get to ask this question. We just need to certify this election.
Are you kidding me no, ofhaving the board of elections? That's
exactly right, that's what we're fightingabout down there now. Luckily, we
just had a new Board of Electionsmember elected to the state board down there
as a conservative member, and theyare working on some rules to combat this

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initiative by the left to keep controllocal certification process. But this is a
big initiative that the left is workingon to I think federalized control of our
elections. That is something to payattention to. John Finley. I appreciate
you stopping by and giving us theinformation the Texas Policy Texas Public Policy Foundation,

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you thank you, thank you forbailing me out again on that one.
I'd love the work you're doing andI appreciate it so thank you so
much for making time for us today. Thank you. It's great. All
right, that's John Finley, andyou know, finding a way to give
you guys the whole vibe of what'sgoing on right now. It's almost overwhelming,

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and we're going to be here allweek. We have tons of guests
scheduled again, not quite as manyas we have today, but there's Oh
I forgot to say this earlier.So while we were sitting here talking to
another person, Rudy Giuliani walked in, So we walked in. He has
all this like, you know,homeland security protection, and I'm just going
to be honest. The man looksterrible. He looks absolutely terrible. He

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looks like he's one hundred years old, and obviously what he's been going through
for the past few years has hada really incredibly powerful impact on him.
So who have we seen today?We saw Mike Lindell, the pillow guy,
My pillow he's here. We sawRudy Giuliani. We've seen multiple senators,
but they're not senators that I knowwho they are. So I'm going

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to call them be, you know, like B list senators because I don't
recognize them right away, and hopefullywe're going to have more of those people.
We're gonna head over after we leavehere to go to the Five Serves
Center, which is the big facilitywhere all the delegates are now they I
think they have finished doing the rolecall, which normally happens later in the
week, but it just happened today, maybe because President Trump is speaking tonight.

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He is speaking at eight o'clock,and we are going to carry his
speech live at eight o'clock on KOWA. It's eight o'clock our time, and
we'll have a full update on everythingfrom tonight tomorrow on the show. Rob
Jawson sitting in right now though,oh by the way hour of the day
this week, Rob is we're justgoing to give an update of what we

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did today, who we talked to, because frankly, if I yelled or
Rob yelled in the world, theymight throw us out of here. So
we're just going to keep it niceand simple about that. So today,
what did you do today? Okay, So I was just at roll call
a little while ago. Yeah,I'm Colorado thirty seven day lokis of course,

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Yes, Dave Williams led the waywith the very conventional steets flashy.
Some of the other states got abigger applause. He did not right,
I mean to say that loud myapology. He mentioned, we're home to
rocking mountain skiing, and you know, all the things about our state that
are we're home to an idiot whowants Colorado GP. But I'm sorry,

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go ahead and interrupt your Yeah.So I figured out after session is over,
you want to go to the concourse. The Veck was there, got
him for about a minute and we'retrying to get that, and he said
he knows jd Vance thinks it's agreat pick for vice president. You've got
a figure of a Vek's going tohave some role in this. Yeah.
I would think so too, abouta seventy five person scrum in there.

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So hopefully I was close enough toget it. And then I talked to
someone from the great state of NewJersey who is not really a player in
Republican politics, but maybe maybe alittle bit more. He was wearing a
green Trump hat, a green Trumphat and a white suit and a gold
tie, and he was very colorful. So we have him on video as
well, and he has a fortyfive dash forty seven. That's the new

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hat bandy. Oh, yes,I've seen those. I have seen it
for five dash forty seven. Todayon the show, if you missed it,
right at the beginning, Graham donea fascinating conversation about the Secret Service
failures over this weekend. Then wespoke with Mary Margaret Oldhand. She has
written a book on de transitioners.Dan O'Donnell from WISN joined us. Nick

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Adams, the Australian who is nowan American and a substitute for Donald Trump,
sat down with us, and thenJosh Finley, the director of the
National Election and Protection Project. Asyou can see, there's a lot going
on here, a lot going onat the convention, and we will have
even more for you tomorrow. Nowtonight, Rob, we are going to

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be over there. Okay, we'regoing to go and as a matter of
fact, right to walk over withyou. Rod and I are so tired
right now that we're like, okay, how are we going to make this
work? But both of us cannotwait to be in that energy. I
even felt the energy when it washalf full. And again everything's out of
border, so I think Roll Callmay have taken a bigger role of years
ago. It was not. Itused to be on Thursday before the President's

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folks, right, So everything's outof order, but you still feel excitement.
You can see the balloons waiting tobe trapped, right you brought them.
Yeah, I'm trying to bring itright now, just right now.
O'donald said hello to me, areyou right now? Because Norris said hello,
where's do we get to go?Close? Yeah? So all the

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networks are have a spot on themezzanine level. Okay, So here's what
I'm going to do. A Rod'sgoing to shoot really good video, but
I'm gonna shoot crappy video on myphone. So you can follow me at
Mandy Connell on Twitter. You canfollow me at the Mandy Connell on Instagram
or at Mandy Connell for Facebook.And I hope you joined me there because
we're going to be bringing you allthis stuff for the rest of the Day's

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really cool, my rig like soand not only that he brought some people
are bulky with it. He's glassy. No, he's really like slow and
and he's bought cables and back upcables and everything else. Rob, what
do you think the president's tone isgoing to be tonight? What do you
think this speech tonight? Because thisis not supposed to happen. A president

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is not supposed to become Monday,because he's gonna come twice Yeah this week,
So what what's the deal. Willthe reception be off the charts or
is the off the charts Thursday?Or are we going to lose something on
Saturday to lose something on Thursday.Here's my prediction. Okay, we'll see
if I'm right or wrong. Ithink tonight he comes out and says that,

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he comes out, makes a commentor two or whatever about Saturday Saturday
about how he's doing. Then hefocuses on JD Vance because he's introducing JD
Vance tonight, so it tastes Yeah, he's trying to do the your deer.
He's giving. He's giving us.Oh yes, Rob brought me cheese

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kurds and thank you you saved mefor that because they were delicious and I
was starving. No, but Ijust lost my trade of honor whatever.
No, no, no, that'sokay, because it was funny. No
way. I think Thursday night,we're hearing rumors. I've heard multiple people
talk about this on the media floordown here that Trump has said I had
a great speech for Thursday. I'mthrowing it out the window. It's apparently

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he's going for unity and to bringa speech that is unifying and saying we
can't go online, unifying Republicans arethe country that we've talked about this last
week. Big ten. Yeah,is he going along the Big ten field?
Well, here's the thing. Imean. He can come out angry
and be angry because he freaking justgot shot. And I don't think anybody

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would be like, oh, heshouldn't be angry because he got shot.
But if he comes out with acompletely different tone, because you have to
believe that everyone in the United Statesis going to be listening tonight, it's
going to be listening on Thursday.So if he comes out with a conciliatory
we've got to do better. Wecan't continue like this as a country.
I think that that starts to makeinroads for people who either don't know the

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man very well or have a preconceivednote. Jd Vance is entering the real
Yes, that is yeah right upthere. Yeah yeah, J. He's
lost some weight. He looks good. So so remember he's also ahead at
this point in drecture. Does hefeel like he can where he was behind?

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He had to said no, Igot a hold on to everybody.
I can't get off the message.I can't I have to be angry.
I have to excite my base.Because he's ahead, Does that change something?
Maybe? I think because he gotshot that changes something because he doesn't
have to energize the base anymore.The basis there are fully getting into.
Yes, he's fully lit up andenergized in a way that I don't think

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that you could have possibly done witha speech. And it's you know,
terrible to say, Yeah, gettingshot might have been the best thing for
his campaign, but the reality is, thankfully he was not seriously injured.
That's the thing, number one.And secondarily, now he gets to come
up. But if he comes upand says, we can't do this anymore,
we have to fix this, that'sa whole new dude. You know,

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Yeah, do you have binoculars atall, because we're a little far
up. I do not, okay, But I mean they've got the screen,
we've got everything. It was justhard to see. Colorado was in
the back of the room for theroll call. Of course we were,
and it was hard to but wewere not the last. There was a
state behind us, right and Icouldn't tell who was. It might have
been New Hampshire, but then again, New Hampshire is you know, you

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know people right there. Oh,look, there's New Hampshire. But I
tried to read the sign behind.We were behind Idaho, and we were
in front of the state that wasa new state, like New Jersey,
New Hampshire, go to Mexico.Okay, so all of this is happening
tonight at eight o'clock. Don't forgetturn in tonight and watch the speech.
I do want to say this becausebecause there's been some criticism flying on the

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text line from people saying, gosh, Mandy, you used to be more
balanced. We are literally broadcast forthe Republican National Convention. Everybody gets a
week. Never fear, because weare also doing this from the Democratic National
Convention, where we're going to beable to talk to a whole bunch of
people on the left. We're goingto hear what policy positions they want to

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talk about. We're going to hearabout all of that stuff coming up in
a few weeks. So this weekis going to be unabashedly Republican. The
Democratic National Convention will be unabashedly democratic. And that's the way these things work.
Everybody gets a week, and everybodygets a bomb after their week usually,
right, yeah, oh yeah,for sure. And I'm wondering.
You know, I don't know thathis choice of jd Vance moves the needle

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for him in any significant way.We'll see how if it makes any difference
in the Midwestern States. I thinkhe shows jd Vance more because he really
likes him and he thinks that jdVance is going to be the person that
could potentially carry the Trump legacy inthe Trump politics carrying into the next administraty.
Remember this party is lives by theREGA for eight the George W.

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Bush before and can they envision somethingsimilar carrying the legacy is exactly why I
think Vance is the VP. Allright, We're going to turn things over
to KOA Sports. The guys havelots to talk about and we will be
back tomorrow. Follow us on socialmedia. A Rod is doing some amazing
work. It looks like we havea whole TV crew working with us and
it's just a Rod. So checkout our social media and we will be

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