07-17-24 FULL SHOW - Day 2 in the Books at the RNC and Lauren Boebert today

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to get to it in a minute. But oh my gosh, you guys
are not ready for today's show.You are not ready for today's show.

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Let me do our quick blog todayagain. My blog is not a normal
blog. But there's a lot ofgood reasons to go to the blog,
and you can find it by goingto mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot
com. Look for the headline thatsays seven to seventeen twenty four blog and
it looks like a time seven seventeenbecause I just saw that I'd hit the
wrong thing. Day two in thebooks at the RNC and Lauren Bobert today.

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Click on that and here are theheadlines you will find within. I
think it was in office half ofAmerican Alaships and ciments of say that's got
a press plant today on the blogwhat a night at the r NC,
And I then embedded a bunch ofvideos from some of the best speeches last
night, including its beach from Madalinebram her Son was murdered and Alvin Braggs

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Die's office set his murderers free.And Funder is a California mom whose teenage
son went to a party, tooka pill, and died of a fentanyl
overdose. Marco Rubio did a fantasticjob memorializing Corey Campetore, the man killed
at the Trump rally, and LauraTrump delivered a really heartwarming speech about her

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father in law, not about politics, but about the man. Sarah Sarah
Huckabee Sanders. You gotta watch thatone. The vik Ramaswami gave a barn
murder of a speech. Florida RonDeSantis gave one of the best speeches I
think of his career, and NikkiHaley gave a speech. Didn't love it
more on that leader the most dangerousspeech of this convention. The Democrat money

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class is plotting against Joe stopped pretendingMaiden is any kind of moderate. Those
are the headlines on the blog nanny'sblogdot com. And just to give you
guys a little taste of what iscoming up today, We've got Ryan Walters.
He is the Oklahoma state superintendent,former Oklahoma Education secretary. He is

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all about school choice, but we'regoing to talk to him about Oklahoma's decision
to post the Ten Commandments in schoolsand teach the Bible. Then, well,
before that, I've got a surpriseguest. I'm going to come back
to We've got Lauren Bobert in person, and I know this is an interview
that a lot of you are goingto want to hear, and I already
give her a lot of credit toagree to come on the show at all.

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I spoke to her comms person yesterdayand I said, you know,
I did not support Lauren in theprimary. I am supporting her in the
general. And he said, thankyou for that. And she's going to
come on the show at one o'clock. You're not going to want to miss
that. We've got a guy namedChuck Devor. He's the vice president of
National Initiatives. He's talking about foreignaffairs, specifically China and how Biden's mental

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decline actually jeopardizes us around the world. And then we're going to talk to
a delegate, Heidigenall and her dadare going to stop by. He has
had a lifelong dream to be adelegate at the RNC. We're going to
talk about that process. I mean, how do you even do this?
What does it look like, whatdoes it cost? So we're gonna do
that. But we have an interviewwith Marjorie Taylor Green. Do we have

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time or do we need to hitRob Rob. We're gonna check in with
you first, and now we're gonnago to Marjorie. Yes, yes,
I was watching you do it.I think it's gonna be great. I
can't wait for the audience to hearit. But the guests are getting bigger
politics lines, maybe a little bitof celeber. We're still winning on leagu
Green one again came. He camethrough yesterday. But the interesting thing that
we were hearing at the economic breakfastwe were at this morning. You know,

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the only thing about the unity thingthat I'm wondering a little bit now
is how conserve You know, TechCruz is one of these senators who is
a budget hawk, and he thismorning said not everyone in my party is
a budget hawk. We need toget better at about So is that the
only break right now is that canthey get more on board with that where

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they want to go with it?Of course, Donald Trump does like to
spend if he were to win.So I'm just interested how that plays out
because it was such a talking pointthis morning. Well it is a talking
point, and there's a lot goingon happening right now behind the scenes with
those schisms. But let's do this. Let's go ahead. And we had
a chance to sit down with MarjorieTaylor Green an interview. I was not

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expecting an interview that I got totell you, guys, I was pleasantly
surprised after listening to it. Solet's go ahead and roll with Marjorie Taylor
Green. Joining me now is awoman who made her name as being someone
who is unafraid to say exactly whatshe thinks to whoever she is speaking to.
Marjorie Taylor Green, the congresswoman fromGeorgia, Welcome to the show.

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First of all, thank you forhaving me. So. You know,
you have a reputation of being bombbastic, of saying what exactly what's on
your mind. You spoke on thefirst night of the convention, and I
said to my audience the next day, I said, she was reserved.
I don't want to say reserved,but it did you get a message from
the campaign and say, look,this is what we're talking about. Because

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there's been such a unifying theme thisweek. I think my message was very
reflective of exactly how most Americans feel, especially Republican voters the base at large.
I don't I don't know what perhapswas bombastic about that. Oh,
there was something about Massa in yourspeech the other night. No, not
at all. That was my point. Oh no, that was my point.

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I think the whole convention has beenvery unifying, don't you think?
I think? I think the conventionhas been great. The energy level is
incredible. My message was on pointwith all the issues I'm constantly talking about.
I think the media frames me,the Democrats framed me, and take
clips of what I say and createit to be more of a character that's

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not me. Uh, the personyou saw me on the stage the other
eye is exactly who I am,and that was the message I wanted to
give. Does it give you pauseknowing that whatever you do is going to
be put under a microscope and therefore, do you ever think to yourself,
Oh, this is not going tocome out right, or they're going to
take this in do so? Doesit ever make you just like second guests

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any at any time? Well,I think given the fact that you and
I both are not perfect people,all of us are able to make errors.
What gives me pause is making surethat I always represent the people that
elected me and overwhelmingly re elected meand overwhelmingly supportment support me from Georgia's fourteenth
district. I want to make surethat I say that person that they elected

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in the first place. That's whatgives me pause at times, And their
reality is my district and many voters, Republican voters especially, have been upset
and not happy with the Republican Party. And that's why we're changing it to
be America First, and we're supportingPresident Trump. So I'm guessing you like
the selection of JD. Van's loveit. I was the first member of

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Congress to endorse Shade Events when heran for Senate, one of the biggest
voices pushing for President Trump to endorsehim in that Senate race, and I'm
thrilled to see him selected as Vicepresident. You currently sit in a House
of Representatives with a razor thin majority. What does that mean for any efforts
to push forward legislation we saw it. I'm going to use HR two as

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an example, the Border or Securitybill, because it was an outstanding border
security bill that went over the Hallto the Senate and died on the floor
because it didn't make it to thefloor, the actual floor, because Chuck
Schumer was never going to take itup. How frustrating is that to be
able to say we did this,and now we have Joe Biden saying,
well, we pad we negotiated aborder bill that and they never mentioned HR

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two. Gosh, what a terriblelight of the American people, Chuck Schumer
and the Democrats. That's been unreal. I serve on the Homeland Security Committee,
and HR two, the legislator asa whole, is exactly what America
needs to secure our borders. It'sextremely frustrating to watch it die in the
Senate. But also we may havea razorsend majority in the House, but

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we still hold the power, andwe hold the power of the checkbook,
and so every single time that wefund the government, we have an opportunity
to push critical legislation off, youknow, across the line and put pressure
on the Senate to pass it.What is also frustrating to me is watch
those opportunities lost. Like when SpeakerJohnson passed the two part Omnibus back in

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May, that was extremely infuriating becauseit gave Joe Biden his entire agenda.
Chuck Schumer didn't change a comma,he didn't change a letter, he didn't
change one word, he didn't changeanything. He ran that across the line.
So it's sad because it's it's Ithink for people at home watching they're

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suffering every day from the illegal invasionthat the Biden missed just has created and
continues going, and it's frustrating thatthey don't see Republicans fight harder even to
just get pieces of HR two acrossthe line and those funding opportunities. I've
just heard Senator Ted Cruz speaking ata different event before we came in here,

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and he made the point that it'svery frustrating that even Republicans vote against
some of this stuff or they can'tget more fiscal responsibility. What do you
think needs to happen in the Houseof Representatives to get people who are serious
about checking spending and serious about ifthey're going to have to compromise, which
I don't think compromise is a terribleword all the time. But how do

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you compromise without giving everything? Likeyou just said, right, Well,
I think the traditional thinking in Washingtonthat the status quo has to change because
the status quo has gotten us towhere we're thirty five trillion dollars in debt
and we're in utter failure right now, and that requires changes the way things
are done. What frustrates me andothers like me and com is I get

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told this, Well, Marjorie,that's just not the way we do things.
Yeah, And I'm like, well, guys, the way you're doing
things is failing. The way you'redoing things has led us to this point
where the American people hate Congress.We have a thirteen percent approval rating.
So what needs to change is themindset and the way that we do do
things. Yeah, is it scaryto shut down the government? Does that

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sound threatening? Yes? It does. But guess what, the American people
are probably on the verge of atax revolt if we don't change the way
we're doing things. You know,you just made me think of somebody,
because if you look at polling dataon issues like immigration, the American people
overwhelmingly want to fix the problem.They want to stop illegal immigration. They
want to reform the actual immigration systemto make it easier to get the workers

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we need and allow people to comeand work and be a part of the
American dream. But does any ofthat ever get play in Congress? Do
people say, look, the Americanpeople say seventy three percent want us to
close the border. Those conversations evercome up? I say them all the
time in every four speech. Ican remember the American people, you know,
I constantly say they pay our paycheck. I say they pay for the

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light bill, they pay for thisbuilding, they pay for this committee hearing,
they pay for everything. Yes,I constantly bring them up, but
somehow it's back to the status quoand it's a system that is so broken.
And I really believe that at thispoint that people are perhaps more powerful
than maybe my singular voices, becauseI do know what pushes my colleagues is

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when people wipe up their phone lines, people make appointments and go get in
front of their legislator, People sendthose emails, people show up. That's
where people have the power. AndI realize they don't and they're busy and
they don't know how to do it. I don't blame people, they don't
know how. It's pretty sad whenI'm only seeing lobbyists walking around having appointments

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with members of Congress and senators,but I don't see the people. And
can you imagine. I mean,I think it would be overwhelming and great
to see ordinary citizens organized groups andcome up and do their own citizen lobbying.
Citizen lobbying. I think it's awonderful thing for them to get in
front of their members and senators andsay, hey, I donated to you.

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I voted for you, I volunteered. I'm not doors for you.
You know, put my own sweatand time into getting you up here.
I don't want you to vote thisway. This is what I want you
to do. I think that's somethingthat would be great. One last question
before I have to let you goin that is you mentioned at the very
beginning of this interview that you areportrayed in such a way in the media
as to kind of spend a narrative. What would you want people to know

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about the real Marjorie Taylor Green.What do you wish could get out there
that doesn't well. I think thatpeople need to understand that politics is a
business, and there's media companies,consultants, campaigns, democrats that make a
lot of money by vilifying my characterand creating this scary MTG person. You

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know, I'm a regular person,have a family, I've got children,
I've got you know, my mommy brother. I'm not the person that
you might see in a thirty secondor one minute add on television. There's
a lot more to me, andI'm grateful that a lot of Americans actually
do know that. I appreciate yourtime today. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green,
thank you for stopping by. Enjoythe rest of the convention. Thank you

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too. All right, that wasMarjorie Taylor Green. And I'm more than
surprised by that, and a littleI don't know. I think it's really
difficult to have a conversation with someonewho's been so controversial in the past.
But just like some other people,like our president, our President Trump seems

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to have maybe begun to learn asthe years have gone on. I do
think she has tempered her most baseinstincts to just be a flamethrower. But
she certainly came off as a verynormal person. And she was very pleasant,
very very pleasant, and very nice. And I'm a little surprised by

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that. Now, just in caseyou're wondering, there is an interview coming
with my pillow guy, A Roddid it anyway? I said no?
And then A Rod did it anyway? It was? It was a soft
no, and you trust my judgmentand I knew it'd be great. It
was. It was my pillow softno? Is that what that was?
On a thread count of zero toone hundred, it was your soft no?

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Was a softy four point fo Yeah, yeah, a soft I responded
with a hard thread count of onehundred. Do this. So it was
a great conversation. I'm play thattomorrow, I think. Yes. So
we this morning just to give youguys a little window into the world of
what we're doing here. This morningwe went over to an economic forur that

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was put on by the Committee forthe Committee for American Prosperity, that's Steve
Moore's joint and got to hear fromDoug Burgham, Governor Doug Burgham of North
Dakota. And I think, andI don't know if did you listen to
his commedy. You were setting upaudio and stuff, so you don't really
listen. He is and my guess, my guess is after hearing it this

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morning, is that he is goingto be the Secretary of Commerce or the
Secretary of Energy. Ross has talkedabout this on a show, But this
morning we ran into the gnarliest politicalhandlers that we have run into, where
basically we were just like shoved asideand yell, some of these are women.
Some of these women, like theyshould put those women in a secret

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service, you know what I'm saying, Like those women should the president because
they are just brutal about shoving peoplealong like now, and they literally shield
whoever it is. Let me patour own backs. We're all pretty darn
good at our jobs. You're gettingpeople that need to come on the show.
This didn't it didn't matter. Wewere getting stone walled, we got
blocked. And for Governor Bergen,there was a shred of hope. Yeah,

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and then the hope just went away, like to pull back the cart.
And essentially at the very least,at least what's called a walking talk,
right for those that don't know,like three questions, yes, two
three questions. You're walking, you'regoing where they're going? Okay? The
best scenario, yeah, they saidthey they said, aside and they do
a one but one with one oneon one with you. You don't get
that, you say, okaybut acouple of questions, okay, not that.

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How about just one question? Okay? If not that, I have
a walking talk where you're going oneafter another after another. No, no,
no, not happening. You can'tdo it. No, no,
no, and AND's and your strategya rod. If there's a scrum,
you you can fair game answer questions. If you're the only one the word
scrum people that are not in mediadon't know reporters. Yeah, you see

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people walk in and essentially a groupof reporters walk up forrest yes, yes,
yes, yeah. And so ifyou've already gone through their people and
they said no, you don't wantto be the person initiating the media scrump
because then you're gonna get blacklisted becausethey've already told you no, And then
you don't want to push the limits. So I was telling Rob Okay,
after we've been told no, ifothers that haven't gone through the right channels

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initiate, said scrum, we're gonnaget them. We're going to jump jump
in. But then unfortunately there werenot many other media, so when we're
getting stone walled, we're getting stonewalled. It was it was a nice reporter
though. We got a very niceItalian reporter, and then I met a
gentleman from Japan and he was like, oh, are you waiting to talk
to Ted Cruz. We were tryingto wait and talk to Ted Cruz,
but he was late and his peopleshoes right past us. And I looked

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at the Japanese guy, I go, if you mess up this interview,
I will kill you, Like ifWe're sitting here waiting and he started laughing
and I was like, I'm notshe's kidding. I was like, yeah,
I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding, but I am kidding. We're
going to take a quick time outwhen we get back. We don't have
anybody in this segment. Do wehave? We have Ryan Walters in War

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thirty, so we got Ryan Waltercoming on. We're going to talk about
Oklahoma's decision to have the Ten Commandmentsin the classroom and to teach the Bible,
so that is coming up next.Keep it right here on KOA Cocky.
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had a text message from someone thatasked about Dan Bongino, and you know,
because we said, oh, he'sgonna This is the most challenging fluid

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environment Q book guests, especially highprofile guests, because as people are walking
through the arena or the media center, like all of these other media people
just basically grab them and then everythingis sort of out of wax. So
we're going to have our guests comingup in just a few minutes to talk
about the decision to make to putthe Ten Commandments into classrooms in Oklahoma and

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what that means and exactly what that'sgoing to look like. It's something that
I'm not entirely in agreement on,and we're going to talk to him right
now. As a matter of fact, Ryan Walters is joining me this moment.
He's Oklahoma State Superintendent, former OklahomaEducation Secretary, and former teacher.
Ryan. Welcome to the show.First of all, thank you for having

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me. I just said, thisis like such a fluid situation here.
It's getting from point A to pointB as you guys are doing this.
Tell me about the decision to putthe Ten Commandments into classrooms to teach the
Bible? Is what is going onin Oklahoma? You know what we've seen
is over the last few decades,the Teachers' Union, the radical left have
had an assault on the Bible andChristianity in schools. We started to seeing

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it in the nineteen sixties with SupremeCourt rulings, and you look at a
history class and we started doing this, we're rewriting our history standards. Start
looking and go, okay, whyin the world are we not referencing the
Bible when we're talking about why thepilgrims came to America. If you take
religion or that, it doesn't makesense. If you look at what Thomas
Jefferson said about our rights coming fromour creator, where do you get that
from the people in America? Howwhat would their reaction been to that?

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What were their beliefs? They're aroundphrases like that. So historically we have
really missed the mark by allowing extremists, radical left wing extremists to push the
Bible in its historical context out ofour school. So we're bringing it back.
So are you teaching the now?When I was in high school,
I wanted to high school back inthe late eighties and the eighteen hundreds of
nineteens. I'm just kidding, butwe actually had a class in my public

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school called the Old Testament as ahistorical document. And because it is,
it's the tradition of the Jewish people, it's the history of the Jewish people.
But it was I hate to usethis word, but it's only word
I can think of. They didnot teach the mystical aspect of that Old
Testament. It was really Abraham David. You know, here's what the movement

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of the Israeli people are, theJewish people, and it was very structured
that way. Are you actually teachingthe mystical or are you teaching about the
foundational nature of the Bible to ourrepublic? No great question, and I
appreciate the question. We are teachingit in its historical context. So we
are not telling kids they've got tobe of a certain faith. We're not
coming in to evangelize to kids byany means. What we're saying is,

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listen, in American history, whenindividuals reference the Bible, We're going to
make sure that that's included in ourhistory when you look at certain events.
I'm let me give you one reallyspecific example. We require kids to read
and understand a letter from a Birminghamjail by Martin Luther King Junior. And
you know, his argument in thereis very clear. You know, I'm
arrested right now and I'm in prison, and people are asking why would I

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do this, why would I breakthe law? And I remember the Reverend
Martin Luther King Junior says, look, I look to the Bible for inspiration.
I look at the Apostle Paul whowas imprisoned and said, look,
I'm doing this because I believe thatthis is the right thing to do in
the eyes of God. Well,we've got to teach that. Well,
we have a kids are not understandthe motivations for Martin Luther King Junior and
the civil rights movement, the founderswithout its historical context. So we are

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not pushing faith on kids. Weare not telling them that one faith is
over another. What we're saying isin its historical context. We're going to
make sure that the Bible is backincluded in the classroom so that kids understand
American history. Did you have pushbackfrom people of other faiths in Oklahoma who
said, wait a minute, ifyou're going to teach Christianity, then you
need to teach Islam and you needto teach sith and or Yeah. I

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mean, did you get that kindof pushback and how do you respond to
that? Yeah, we did alittle bit, you know, But we
also had folks from the Jewish communitywho were on some of our panels that
were like, look, it's historical, and just to be clear, we're
not saying it exclusively. Look,we have a world history class where other
religions are talked about and cited andcovered. But you know, in American
history, you know, the leftcan be offended, they can not agree,
but they can't rewrite our history withthe Bible was the most referenced text

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in the seventeenth and eighteenth century.The Bible is the most purchased and read
book in American history. Okay,that's just historical facts, and so we
are going to go where history takesus. We're going to study facts,
and so in American history, obviouslythere's gonna be a lot more references to
the Bible than other face. Butin a world history class, absolutely,
we have that in the curriculum thatsays, listen to understand groups of people.

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Obviously, religion and a lot ofplaces in the world played a major
role in our kids need to havethat understanding from a historical context, not
pushing one of those face. Isn'tthat a fine line though? Isn't that
I mean, isn't that are youputting teachers in a precarious situation where a
person who may have a strong faithmaybe comes on a little too strong or

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across as a line. I meanI would worry about that. Look,
I appreciate that question because I thinkit's part of what we have to be
able to discuss. We can't notinclude parts of our history because some people
might be offended, and teachers aregoing to have to teach the academic Look,
there's things. I was a historyteacher, by the way, it's
not history for ten years. Ifthere's things in history that are hard to

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teach. I mean, you know, we went in depth into the Holocaust.
We walk through it, we walkthrough the explanation of why the soldiers
did what they did and what Imean, it's hard. I mean you're
sitting there going, boys, thisis gonna be a gloomy day in class.
Guys. You know we're but we'regoing to read it because you need
to understand it. So, look, you've got to be able to cover
in an academic setting, our history, regardless of whether you agree with certain

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moments, no matter if you're ofa different faith or not. And you
know, the way I look atit is our kids are being robbed of
an understanding of their country. Becausethe left has played this, you know,
we're offended, So let's cancel culture. Everything out you read quotes from
even folks like John Adams is thelook the Constitution was made by for a
moral, faithful people. Now again, I'm not saying that everybody has to

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believe that to be the case,but you need to believe that John Adams
believed that to be the case.And when you look at the founder,
so many of their quotes. Youlook at almost every presidential speech we've ever
had in our history, they citethe Bible. They cite Bible versus.
We can't remove that because in removingthat, you're actually indoctrinating kids to believe
that people are just secular actors inour history didn't have faith or faith didn't

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play a role in it. AndI think, look, we've got to
be professional and academic in the senseof go to primary sources, read what
they said, and let kids drawtheir own conclusions. Look, this guy
says this is why he did thethings he did. You can draw your
own conclusion on that. But youknow, you need to understand that these
are what people throughout history, whatthey said impacted them and impacted their decision

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making. So that makes sense tome. I know that there's some who
were going to disagree with but whatabout posting the Ten Commandments? Because what
was the thinking behind that? Yeah, so you know you have Moses there
and the Congressional You know, ifyou go to DC and you have all
the lawmakers there, they have Mosesright in the front. You see this

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in our history of this is wherethe basics of law came in in society.
Again, until the nineteen sixties,you would have seen this very prevalently
placed in school buildings. So inits historical context, there's no reason why
legally we shouldn't do it Number one, Number two, why would we do
it. We would do it tomake sure the kids understand this is the
basics from when we're telling you todo certain things in class models, certain

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behaviors. It comes from the traditionsof the Ten Commandments. This is where
it all stems from. We haveto have order in schools, we have
to have an understanding of that.It's in that historical context. I think
it's very appropriate. But why Idon't disagree with it being the foundation of
modern law because it is. Butdo you have to post it? Can
you not just teach that the TenCommandments is kind of the og legal framework.

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Hey, look, you know there'sa reason why we wanted to make
sure that we were teaching the Biblein our academic setting because to your point,
I want them to understand the relevance, right, not just post something,
but understand it. And so Ido think that that's part of it.
If you're going to do something withthe Ten Commandments, and we've told
all the states this, we're thefirst state to put the Bible back into
the curriculum the way that we have. And look, if you're going to

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post the Ten Commandments, well,if you don't give kids the context or
what that means, I don't knowthat the point is going to get through
to them that listen, there's gotto be order here. You know why
there's going to be order here becausethis is basically the way societies that set
themselves up. And you know howit is. Frankly, it's a big
issue we have in schools across thecountry is we're losing control of the classrooms.
There's a lot of discipline problems,there's a lot of disorder in our
schools. And getting back to asense and an understanding that no, no,

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no, we all have rules thatwe have to abide by. Societies
have always functioned this way. Ithink that's a good conversation to have with
kids. So let me ask youone last thing, and that is,
how does a teachers union feel allabout this? Look? They hate it.
I mean, look they hate it. But I mean, I'll be
honest with you. In our state, the teachers union has fought us on
every good reform we've ever done.I've seen this nationwide. The teachers unions
have attacked parents' rights, they've attackedschool choice, They've attacked our commitment to

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getting back to the basics and education. They push things like radical gender ideology
on our kids, critical race theory. We want to get back to the
basics. We want to focus onhistory, focused on academic learning. And
they're against all these things, andthere against our merit pay measures. We
pay some teachers up to one hundredthousand dollars in Oklahoma do a great job.
The union hates it. So listen, Frankly, their track record has
been so bad that them being againstit, frankly, just goes back to

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me affirming that it's probably the rightthing to do because they've been so off
base. Walter, thank you somuch for your time today. He is
the superintendent of education in Oklahoma.I appreciate you making time to explain all
this to it. I appreciate youvery much. We'll be right back.
Interesting conversation about the Ten Commandments inschool, and I actually I think he
had a great point about the Biblebeing part of our history. And as

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he said to me right before heleft, he said, I'm glad you
made that point, because we're notteaching that the Bible is the word of
God. What we're teaching is thatour founding fathers believe that the Bible was
the word of God. A lotof you weighing in on the common Spirit
health text line. You can continueto do that. We brought that with
us to Milwaukee, and someone justsaid this, Mandy, I always hear
the expression God given rights. Wherecan those be found? I'm pretty sure

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not in any Bible I have heardof. You may not realize this,
but they are part of the Declarationof Independence. And this kind of drives
home the point that he was making, and that is the Bible was a
foundational document for our republic. Itwas incredibly important to them men who created
this nation. And if you don'tbelieve me, just look at the Declaration

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as Independence. In it the phraseendowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
It is widely expected that that meansthat these rights are given to humans
by God and they can't be takenaway by man. So that's where the
phrase God given rights comes from.And it kind of does make the point
that he was making that the Bibleis an integral part of our history and

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they want to make sure that kidsin Oklahoma understand that. Now where I
break with him is the posting ofthe Ten Commandments. For me that even
if they are the historical foundation ofall law coming forward, and I do
believe they are, I'm not comfortablewith that because of their blatantly religious nature.
But let's be real, you guys. I want to be real about

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this. Why don't you think aboutyour high school classrooms? Right? I
realize it's been a long time formost of us, but did you ever
spend time looking around the top ofthe classroom wall where all of the you
know, random stuff was hung.No, you didn't. It becomes a
part of the background and no onepays attention to it. So to think
that somehow, and I'm not talkingabout the people, like, if you're

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against it, you should just simmerdown. What I'm saying is I think
it's a misguided waste of resources toput the Ten Commandments in every classroom.
It's not going to have the impactthat you think it's going to have,
is my point. Right. Soit's one of those things where I think
that's a fool Errand I don't Idisagree with it, But as far as

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mentioning the Bible as part of ourhistory, I think it would be foolish
to act like, you know,these these ideas that our rights are endowed
by their creator, or we areendowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights
spring out of whole cloth, andthat the creator is what you know,
I mean it is. I justtold him the hardest class I ever had

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in high school, I mean ever, was a class. That class that
taught the Old test As the historyof the Jewish people. First of all,
he was one of the best teachersI ever had, mister Montgomery,
but the class was incredibly challenging becausehe wanted to make sure that it had
an extremely high level of rigor,so it withstood any challenges that may come.

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Now, I grew up in arural area. Everybody went to church
on Sunday. It was not aproblem at that point. But it was
very useful because if you don't knowthe Old Testament, if you've never read
the Old Testament, and you don'thave to be a Christian to read the
Bible, and I would strongly recommendthat you pick it up right. It's
a fascinating story anyway. There's lotsof very interesting things that happen in the

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Bible, and the Old Testament isa fascinating history of the Jewish people.
So if you haven't read it,you really should, because our founding fathers
absolutely did read it and used itas a part of the creation of our
country. So I know, I'msplit on this. I guess I think
he did a great job explaining whythey're doing it. But at the same

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time, you know, maybe theTen Commandments is just is a little too
much of a grab for my taste. We'll be back after the news,
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(33:21):
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(33:42):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to thesecond hour of the show. I
am your host, Mandy Connall,live from the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee,
Wisconsin. The weather here a rodfinally today. Glorious beautiful weather of
course if we're inside, but itis not steam hot outside. It's not
like a five billion percent humidity itis. You know why, because tonight

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JD Vance is gonna make his acceptancespeech, and they wanted to be nice
for today and tomorrow for jd Vancein the president. So the heat was
on the first couple of days andnow it's cool down. Jade Vance's bring
the heat right back, because Viveikalso brought the heat last time and the
day that was a little cooler.We have a massive thunderstorms on Monday,
which is basically the universe and MotherNature saying, wow, what an explosive

(34:28):
walk in from the former president DonaldTrump. Uh, the other weather's cooperating.
We've we've gotten the full gambit ofweather. We really have. It's
been lovely and we are we're makingit very nice. Is Rob robbed dustin
with us right now, joined usin a couple minutes. Okay, so
Rob is gonna be with this.He's out and about right now, checking
and I don't know exactly where heis. But there's so much activity here.

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And if you missed any of lastnight's convention, I on the blog
today at mandy'sblog dot com put myfavorite speeches, and not all of the
speeches are up there, most ofthem are, but I put my favorite
speeches and Nikki Hayley's speech, whichI did not love. It was a
necessary speech. She had to doit. But is she was up there

(35:12):
given that speech, it almost feltlike she was like, I have to
take my medicine and I'm gonna takeit and I'm gonna do a perfectly fine
job. But it's just gonna beperfectly fine. I'm starting to lean in
the more I thought about that speechto the fact that I think it's more
about her being up there and givinga speech period in the sense of unity,
because I think even if I werein the mind of the former President
Donald Trump. I would think thatspeech was definitely a bit of leaning into

(35:37):
saying yes, it's unity, butalso then then dialing it back and saying,
well, you know, we don'tagree the best the better of the
two evils. You know. Thewords she would say would essentially be like,
well, you know, you haveto go with Donald Trump, Like
we don't want it, but youhave to. So don't you think she

(35:59):
was talking about her supporters and hersupporters, yeah, said she's early in
the speech. He's like, forthose supporters of myself, this is for
you tonight, right, she hadsaid that in this speech, so yes,
yeah, And so she took hermedicine last night. Because if you
want to have a political career goingforward, you've got to play the game.
And this is a game. Youcompete really hard against someone and then
after the primary you then go okay, maybe not the next day, but

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then you go, okay, thisis our candidate, this is who we're
supporting, and we have to getthem over the finish line or otherwise politically
you're kind of dead, you reallyare. It's what everyone expected that speech.
It definitely was a polar opposite sideof the spectrum than what you got
from Rond de Santas. Ron deSantas did a great job last night.
He's not a super great speech giverbecause he is kind of wooden. I

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mean, he just is. He'sa nerd. Okay, he's a nerd.
He comes off like a nerd.I like that about him. But
he's not a great speech giver.But last night he gave a barnburner of
a speech that if he had maybedone that more when he was running,
we'd be having a different conversation.Time I hear Ron Santos talking continues to
further my thought that he lacks quitea bit of social awareness. He really

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got three lines in while the applausewas still roaring, and people like,
oh we started, we gotta stoptalking. But Brownie points for the Weekend
at Bernie's Reference. He made aWeekend at Bernie's Reference about the Biden administration,
and the crowd roared. They lovedit. They absolutely ate it up.
It was a great speech. Butyou know when I saw, because

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we get a sheet of of who'sgoing to speak at night, and it's
been that we already have it fortonight, right, it already came round
now. But I want to saythis about that, and they have like,
you know, all these politicians,and then they have so and so
every day American, and I waslike, okay, every day American,
what are you going to bring tothe table? Last night? The everyday

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Americans they were the most powerful speechesof the evening. They had moms whose
children had been killed by fentanel thatwere mom who's children, whose son was
murdered after his long career in themilitary, he survived war zones, only
to be killed in New York City, and then to have Alvin Bradd release
her son's murderer with time served ina pathetic sentence. I mean they were

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gut wrenching, absolutely gut wrenching.And I think last night we saw some
of the future of the party currentparty too. Marco Rubio spoke, he
did a great job. But SarahHuckabee Sanders, who first of all,
looks fantastic. Now she looks great. Somebody told me she had had thyroid
cancer, and I don't know ifthat was what led to the weight loss.

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I don't know, she looks absolutelyfantastic. Maybe she was on the
soda weight loss plans. Yeah,so weight loss. That being said,
He really cemented her place as aleader in the party. I think Marca
Rubio cemented his place as a leaderin the party, and the they Kramaswami
he lit it up last and arob and I can see the telepropter.

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He went off script, and hewent offscript a lot, because you can
see the telepropter stops right when somebodygoes off script, it stops on the
next line. And he was offscriptquite a bit. Say what you will
about his expertise, his background,how he's young. That is one of
the best public speakers I've seen inperson or not in person. Fantastic.

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I will be shocked, absolutely shockedif he does not have a significant role
in the Trump administration. Now we'reat the point now where you're looking at
these people speaking like we went tothis economic forum this morning, Governor Doug
Bergham, whose people are super mean. I just want to say that I
don't like them at all. Heis he is so knowledgeable. He was

(39:44):
talking about the energy revolution, fracking, he was talking about AI and how
in the United States we're using AIto make songs and China is using AI
to take their military to the nextlevel. So he is so knowledgeable about
business matters, about energy matter.I feel like he's kind of auditioning for
Secretary of Energy Secretary of Commerce.But I don't know where Vivek would go

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because I feel like Secretary of Commercewould be good for him, but it
could also be good for Doug Burgham. Yeah. Well, in your exclusive
one on one interview on the streetwith him, he did obviously open up
the opportunity he would be. Hewould entertain it seems highly entertained the possibility
of filling JD Vance's seat. ButI will say I asked you this question,
and I agree with you the unfortunatetruth that he's overqualified man. Would

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he be the best pressed secretary I'veever seed it? That would be a
huge setback. I wouldn't do badfor him. I would I know he
would be amazing, but I wouldlike to see in his chair of the
GOP though. Laura Trump last night, Laura Trump did a really great speech
last night. She was the cothe keynote speaker. I have underestimated her.

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I'm gonna be perfectly honest. Lastnight, she made the case not
for Donald Trump, the leader orthe politician. She made the case for
Donald Trump the man, and shehumanized him and talked about her family's experience
of watching him get shot, youknow, on live TV. They were
all watching and having to turn itoff before her young children saw their grandfather

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on the ground. I mean,it's just it was a great speech,
really really good. These are allon the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
Let's check in with Rob Dawson.Rob, where are you right now?
Okay, I am on the otherside of the arena. I'm actually heading
touristafiser for him. But guess whoI saw and got a chat with who?

(41:29):
A former Senator Cory Gardner. Noway tell you you said him?
All right? I did. Nowhe's got to go to a meeting.
So I was able to get fouror five minutes with him on video and
audio. But he misses you,and he says everyone says hello. He
says he has the eyeheart ready labas well. Okay, So he's very
familiar with what's going on, buthe's he's not a delegate, right,

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he's here, and he of coursewants to see Colora a little redder than
it is right now. He's like, look, you know, it's shown
that Colradu is not as rat ofa place that used to be to live
as they and he believes that asmany of the people we've been talking to

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that American are finding the publican valuesand that's what's going to help them in
twenty twenty four. And that's whythe messaging has been so clear for this
convention about trying to bring Kiple aguest. Rob. I appreciate that,
and hopefully we'll be able to catchup with Corey Gardner at some point.
We now have someone joining us thatI am very happy to have. Chuck

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de Vorr is sitting down with usright now. And Chuck, I don't
know what the vice president of NationalInitiatives does or who you actually work for,
So let's start there with what youdo and who you work for.
Well, I work for the TexasPublic Policy Foundation, which is America's largest

(42:57):
right of center think tank. Atthe state level. We had about one
hundred and ten employees and full timeequivalent contractors, mostly in Texas, but
really all over the country. Andso what I do are the things that
are mostly focused outside of Texas.You know, Texas is just about a
nation state. We were in ourown country for almost ten years, and

(43:19):
so we think big about these things, and we have responsibility to the rest
of the nation. And so someof the things I work on as We
have an energy initiative led by MarkMills. We have an election protection project
led by Joshua Finley. We havea public interest law firm that sues the
federal government, which is pretty coolwhen you think about it. Yeah,

(43:40):
for forced constitutional compliance. Right.We have a criminal justice reform effort led
by the former Utah US Attorney BrettTolman. You see him on Fox a
lot recently talking about some of theseunfair prosecutions of former President Trump, and
that effort is a design to improvepublic safety cost effectively. You know,

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what are the things that we shouldbe doing to reduce crime. Let's not
do this stupid stuff. That's itkind of in a nutshell. So those
are some of the things I havethe opportunity to help coordinate, including even
a new effort looking at the corruptionin Mexico and how tightly knit the Mexican
government and the criminal cartels are andwhat that means for us from a policy

(44:27):
standpoint, and how really Mexico isn'tat all a partner or a friend in
the way that we used to thinkof Mexico. Mexico is now a criminal
enterprise for all intents and purposes.I don't doubt that at all, And
that's absolutely insane. But you justmentioned the case against Donald Trump. He
has found guilty thirty four convictions.At the same time, last night on

(44:50):
the stage here at the RNC,they had a woman whose son was murdered
in New York City and the sameDA, Alvin Bragg, let her murderers,
murderers go for So obviously there aresome significant issues with his priorities,
meaning Alvin Bragg, But what dothese convictions really mean? What are we
really looking at here? Well,what you're really looking at is the weaponization

(45:14):
of the judicial system, of thelaw enforcement system for partisan purposes. So
in the case of the Break prosecution, the thing to me that was the
tell was the number three person inthe Biden Justice Department left to the leave
of absence from one of the mostpowerful positions in law enforcement in America to

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go work for a local DA whopromised when he ran for office that if
elected, he would go after Trump. And if you look at this as
like, pardon me, really,well, you know, if he was
saying I'm going after al capone.We would all be like, good job,
you know, that would be great. But here he comes up with
charges that were passed on by multipleother prosecutors. And I saw a very

(46:00):
funny tweet. I thought it wasfunny where someone said Trump has living a
gangs to life, He's got thirtyfour felonies and now he's been shot.
And I thought, oh, well, that's ironic and kind of sad,
but funny. But what is thenext step for this. I know that
they are going to appeal these rulings. Do we get it to a court
that is more or less biased?I guess is the word I'm looking for?

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Well, to me, one ofthe most interesting questions is that Alvin
Bragg and his prosecution had to usea fair bit of evidence that in the
recent federal court over the classified documentscase cannot be used because that evidence is
a privileged information. That evidence issomething that has executive privilege attached to it,

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and so a lot of that evidencewas a key part of the prosecution's
evidence in this case, and thatmeans that all of that evidence needs to
be thrown out. That the guiltythose guilty verdicts could not be risk by
that evidence. So it seems tome if the judicial system was to do
the right thing, they would justthroughout the case right now rather than wait

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for any sort of appeal. Thatthis should be done by Judge Marshaw on
at the at the level at whichit was executed. Right, So,
Judge Marshawn did not exactly show awillingness to adhere closely to the law,
allowed a lot of stuff in thatperson that should not have been someone This

(47:28):
gives them an out because it's veryclearly a cut and dried legal issue that
you can't use that this this bodyof evidence that was used that was key
to the case is now invalid.It's it's it was illegal to present in
the first place. Now, ofcourse that goes we're not even talking about
the fact that the things that thePresident Trouble was accused of weren't even state

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crimes, right Yeah, So yeah, the whole thing was a contrivance from
from the start. And and frankly, I think was the weakest case out
of the out of the different cases. Uh and so I I think at
this point, you know, you'relooking at the Trump juggernaut that we'll be
operating between now an election day thatI think is going to be very hard

(48:14):
to stop. I think the lawfair failed. I think that this attempt
by by New York State will beinvalidated. Uh. And of course this
amazing miracle of the president escaping witha just a light wound from a would
be assassin. And I think thatwe're going to see pretty substantial shifts in

(48:37):
public opinion of pulling here in thenext a couple of weeks. I didn't
even mean to take you down thatrabbit hole. I brought you here to
talk about something different. But sinceyou were right, you have a column
that is that is fairly harsh inits assessment. Me, me, yeah,

(48:58):
a harsh column. The headline isBiden's mental decline jeopardizes national security.
Democrats have one card left to play. Yeah, I don't think you're wrong,
By the way, talk about thatcolumn for just a minute. Yeah.
So my in laws, my wifeand I took in her parents,
who were both suffering from dementia inNovember twenty ten, which was the year

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I turned out of office in California, and my father in law lived until
just last October, so we hadthirteen years with him. As he was
declining. And there is so muchabout the president's mannerisms and the way he
acts that is intimately familiar to meas someone who helped care for two older

(49:45):
people, both of whom were sufferingfrom dementia. And so when you see
this and you think, my goodness, if Joe Biden was just a regular
American of trying to live on hisown, first of all, they would
have gotten him into assisted living,or taken him into the house, or
done something to get him some help. Right because he can't take his pills

(50:07):
on time, He's not going tobe able to drive anywhere, he can't
take care of himself. And thenyou think, my goodness, this guy
has the button to our nuclear arsenal. This guy is the leader of the
free world, and very clearly heis increasingly incapacitated from a mental standpoint,

(50:29):
and yet he has a very tightknit group of people around him, led
by I think the first lady whovery much wants to cling to power.
You know, she's a doctor.Oh, I've heard that. Yeah,
I've heard that. Yeah. Ithink though, if there is a mid
flight emergency and someone said, isthere a doctor president, I don't think
she's going to be raising her handthough she would and then go, I

(50:53):
can't help you, help you.I don't know what I can help you
with, but I can't help.So that's where that's coming from. And
so when I looked at that,and this is all, of course prior
to the failed assassination attempt. Youknow, every day that goes by where
there is not a movement to eitherinvoke the twenty fifth Amendment or to have
a serious effort at Democratic convention tofind someone other than Joe Biden to put

(51:17):
on the ticket, every day thatgoes by is going to make it more
and more difficult ay to remove JoeBiden short of debilitating radical catastrophe, which
obviously we don't wish on the presidentfor his family, but it makes it
more difficult to remove him, andit makes it more and more likely that
there's going to be a Trump victory, because every day that goes by is

(51:38):
one more day of chaos and onemore day of difficulty and hitting the reset
buttons. But several months ago Iwas thinking that any clear headed Democrat would
see that this was an inevitability andthat they needed to find somebody who was
more electable, more charming, morecapable, of making an argument with it,

(52:00):
and so I had been predicting GavinNewsom, who I knew a little
bit about from having been in thestate legislature in California for six years.
But it's looking like that windows startingto close. We've been lots of people
have been talking about that on mediarow and throughout the convention, and apparently
the Democrats are actually considering doing therole count roll call via zoom so they

(52:23):
can end all doubt, right.I honestly think Chuck that they've sort of
realized that this is a fool's errandso they're going to let the old man
right out through November and then they'regoing to figure out how to mitigate a
Trump second Trump presidency. That iswhat I think is happening behind the scenes,
right So you're going to see alot of money being shifted to vulnerable

(52:43):
Senate races, House races and doeverything they can. The problem is,
if there's a wave election like Ithink we may be seen, not only
is the Senate likely to be mycalculation is fifty six to forty four Republican
a Democrat, which would be notquite but nearly you know, filibuster proof,
but in the House, where theDemocrats have a certain advantage with Gary

(53:05):
Mandarin. You know the problem withthat is when you squeeze out as many
districts as you can in a waveelection, you lose a lot more than
if you were more conservative and youhave more incumbent protection seats, right,
and so you may see the Republicanspicking up twenty five, you know,
fifteen to twenty five seats in theHouse if in fact you have a wave

(53:27):
election because of the Democrats going downwith the ship with Joe Biden check devor
is my guest from the Texas PublicPolicy Institute? Is that right Foundation?
Foundation? Days? Right? Ireally appreciate your time today. We had
to take a break. Is veryinteresting conversation and thanks for making time for
it. My pleasure. All right, we'll be back right after this.
Coming up a little bit later inthe show, we're going to talk to

(53:50):
Heidigan alland her dad, who isone of the delegates. If you've ever
wondered how do you get to bea delegate, What does it cost,
you have to pay your own way, what's going on? What is your
actual role? We're going to findout from him as he is living his
lifelong dream to be a delegate tothe Republican National Convention. We are supposed
to have Lauren Bobernon. I'm notsure. As I said earlier in the
show, everything is very fluid rightnow. Everybody is being pulled in a

(54:14):
lot of different directions, So there'sa lot a rod is working his tailoff.
Let me just say that to getus the people that we need and
get them where they need to be. Now, I want to talk about
a few of the text messages.Sorry, I got a hiccups here because
I just ate a cheese stick.I want to talk about some of your
text messages on the Common Spirit healthtext line. This is an interesting one,

(54:35):
Mandy. I totally understand what youguys are saying about Biden, and
I even agree with it, Butwhy is it okay for you as a
woman to have someone with Donald Trump'scharacter running for office. Obviously, the
man is getting away with stuff thatyou and I as private citizens couldn't get
away with, and I, forthe life of me, can't understand why

(54:57):
women are abiding in supporting him inany way or fashion. You know,
I struggle with this to this daybecause I don't care for the character of
the man and I've talked about thisopenly. Trust me, I have the
hate mail from Trump supporters to proveit. But the reality is this,
I believe that for women and women'sissues are everyone's issues. The notion that

(55:22):
somehow women are reduced down to abortionand nothing more is incredibly insulting to me.
The economy is a women's issue,education is a women's issue, defense
is a woman's issue. All ofthese things are women's issues. I am
not a single issue voter, andfrankly, I find the character of Joe
Biden to be just as unlikable asDonald Trump, and talking about you know,

(55:46):
Trump gets away with all this stuffnormal people wouldn't get away with at
this stage in the game. He'sbeen the most investigated man in the world
by how many different people? Whatis he getting away with right now?
He was honest when he made thosedisgusting comments that you know, he walks
up to women and grabs them inthe genitals. He was honest because women

(56:08):
fall over for rich men. It'san unflattering portrait of women and an unflattering
thing for that man to say,and it really shows you what he thinks
of some women. But regardless,I don't see him getting away with a
bunch of stuff that other people don'tget away with. As a matter of
fact, you could argue that hejust got prosecuted in New York under a
law that has never been used thatway before ever in the history of the

(56:31):
law that he was charged under.It's never been used when there was no
victim. Right, So it's Iwish that they had. I wish she
had sterling character. I wish hehad the character of Mitt Romney. I
loved Mitt Romney. He was afamily man and he had great character.
But you know what happened. Theyannihilated him. Anyway. We were told

(56:53):
that Mitt Romney, who honestly isthe most white bread pasty person, nothing
remarkable, nothing toward, nothing insane. We were told he was a horrible
person because he put his car ina kennel on the top of his car,
and we weren't allowed to vote forhim because of that. There are
no perfect people, and I wishthat we had better people to choose from

(57:13):
in terms of overall character. Butwhen I look at where the country is
headed, and I look at thepolicies that are being pushed by Joe Biden
in his administration, we cannot dothis as a nation. We can't move
forward as a nation when you havea president who is hell bent on bringing
down the economy by raising taxes,a president who has now come out this

(57:36):
week and said, you know what, I think we're going to try and
pass some stuff to reign in theSupreme Court. Liberals have never wanted,
well not in the modern era,to reign in the Supreme Court, because
they had it sack well enough withtheir people that they kept getting the rulings
they wanted. Every time a partyis out of power. And yes,
the Republican Party has demanded changes tothe Supreme Court. We go down this

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rabbit hole, but we don't needto. The reality is, if you
think your policies are better, makethe case to the American people. But
instead you just heard Chuck DeVore talkingabout the fact that a member of the
Biden Department of Justice, okay,step backwards from a very prestigious and well
paying job at the DJ and wentback to work in the DA's office so

(58:21):
they could go after Trump. Ifthat doesn't sound politically motivated, I honestly
don't know what is. So whenyou look at all of the pieces on
the chessboard. Right, when youlook at everything that's happening. Do I
wish that Donald Trump wasn't a creepabout women? Yes? But do I
wish that Joe Biden wasn't walking aroundsniffing children's hair. Yes. These two
men are wildly imperfect, both ofthem, not just one, both of

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them. So if I'm looking attwo imperfect men who have done things that
I find creepy and gross, I'mgoing to have to look past that,
hold my nose and vote for somebodywho I believe their policies are going to
be better for the country, andright now that is Donald J. Trump.
Yeah, I'm going to go votefor Donald Trump and to wonder why
women support him, you have tolook beyond abortion to understand it. You

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have to look at mothers, likethe mothers who were on stage last night.
You have to look at Mary brainher Son, a military veteran comes
back from war to be stabbed onthe streets of New York City, only
to have left wing Democratic da AlvinBragg let her son's killers go. You

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have to look at the woman whostood on stage last night, whose teenage
boy who had never gotten into troublehe was a football player and honor student.
Great kid goes to a party,falls for some peer pressure, takes
a pill, and dies of afentanyl overdose. Those women have bigger issues
than abortion. They have bigger issuesthan Donald Trump being creepy about women.

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They have bigger issues because their childrenare dead and they don't know who to
hold responsible. And it's real.While they are holding someone responsible, they're
holding the mind administration are responsible.There are a lot of women here right
now, tons and tons of womenat this convention who are enthusiastically supporting Donald
Trump because they believe that he lovesthis country and they want someone in charge

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who doesn't want to stand up andtell us everything we've done wrong every single
minute of every single day, whichis what we get from the left.
So women are enthusiastically They're not evenlike having to look past his character flaws.
They are all in on Donald Trump. So the notion that somehow,
because I'm female, I'm supposed tohave the vapors and not want Donald Trump

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to be the president. I didthat in the primary and my candidate lost.
So now I have to look atmy two choices that I have ahead
of me, and I'm going tochoose the candidate that I think is going
to be the best for the country. Mandy says this text messenger, can
you update me on the twenty twentyfive article? Are pushing this article?

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It's not an article. It isa plan by the Heritage Foundation. The
Heritage Foundation, a right wing thinktank, has been putting out plans like
this since nineteen seventy six. Ithink maybe nineteen eighty might have been the
first one, but maybe nineteen seventysix. And they are just a list
of policy ideas that the Heritage Foundationthings need to be put in play so

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we can really have great economic opportunity. But they come from a very conservative
source. So what the Democrats aredoing right now, and I'm glad you
brought this up, we're trying toget someone from Heritage while we're here.
By the way, well tomorrow,coming up, tomorrow, coming up,
tomorrow, We're going to have someonefrom Heritage to talk about this. But
what Project twenty twenty five has becomeis this year's boogeyman. This is,

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oh my goodness. Remember in twentysixteen it was The Handmaid's Tale. They're
gonna put us all back in chains. They're gonna put us in the Handmaid's
Tale, and we're not going tohave any freedoms whatsoever. It's absolute bage
because they don't have a platform torun on. They don't have a candidate
that can clearly articulate a vision forthe country. So of course they are

(01:02:09):
gonna make something that is done bya think tank, not the president,
by the way, not President Trump. They are doing something that is designed
to scare people. We're looking atat the big screen right now that shows
us what's happening at five Star Forum. Mister Donald Trump himself. Yes,
Mike check right now. Everybody ableto do it to Mike check check my
check. So I guess maybe levelsare huge, levels are huge. I

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think Chris, is he gonna introducejd Vance tonight. We don't know.
I'm asking our our scheduling guru overhere, and we don't know, but
he is going to the stage todo a walk through at a mic check
and all of that. So I'mguessing maybe he's gonna introduce Jade Vance tonight.
We shall see and on the screen. So let me give you an

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idea. We have one of thosegiant, you know, arena screens.
Donald Trump's in the middle. There'sa Secret Service guy behind him, one
to his left, one to hisright that keeps moving in and out of
frame, and one directly in frontof him. Wherever he is, there
is a gaggle of Secret Service agents. Now I mean a gaggle. And
I mentioned this on Ross's show lastnight when he was walking in and just

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set the stage here. He walksin through a tunnel on the floor.
He has to walk about forty feetto the left, and then he walks
up some stairs to the left,and that is where he sits with the
family in the family box. Whenhe came out last night, the Secret
Service was completely covering up the righthand side between he and the delegates,

(01:03:36):
and at one point he's walking upand I guess the delegate reached out to
touch him because he's always glad handingpeople, and Donald Trump racked to the
left, took a big old stepto the left and went against the wall,
and the Secret Service people kind ofpushed the delegate back. It was
very telling how quickly Donald Trump movedhard away from that delegate. It was

(01:03:59):
kind of sad, but I thinkthis is the new normal. So maybe
I'm guessing Donald Trump is going tospeak tonight, introducing jd Vance, who
will be speaking tonight. We'll talkmore about that when we get back.
We are back from the Republican NationalConvention. I promise I'll pay more attention.
But we're talking to people on thebreak and things are exciting and they're
happening. In just a few minutes, we are going to talk to Heidi

(01:04:21):
Ganall and her dad, Harvey,who is living his dream to be a
delegate. We're going to find allabout being a delegate. But I want
to address some of the comments thatcame in on the text line after my
comments of the last segment explaining whyI am backing Donald Trump. Now,
what's interesting is someone said, Mandy, do you remember the disgust you shared

(01:04:44):
about January sixth? What a totalflip flopper. You are hard to trust
you about anything after your total reversal. I'd like to ask you, Texter,
and I mean this genuinely, whatam I supposed to do? Who
am I supposed to vote for?What am I supposed to get? Because
I would love it if January sixthdidn't happen. But as we've gotten further
away, it has gotten more obviousthat though I believe Donald Trump should have

(01:05:08):
done more after the rioting started,I'm not sure that he is absolutely responsible,
although I wish he had done more. I can't vote for Joe Biden.
I can't vote for a libertarian who'snever going to get elected. I
can't sit it out when I feellike the country is on the verge of
spiraling out of control. So whatwould you have me do, Texter?
Take my principles and sit home.I wish life was that easy. I

(01:05:30):
wish it was that simple, ButI don't have that option, nor do
any of you, you know,stake your claim. I know that Ross
has said he's going to vote thirdparty, and that's perfectly fine, and
I understand his reasons for it,and he will be able to be comforted
knowing he did not have to,you know, change his principles or compromise
them at all. But the realityis is that I feel like grown up

(01:05:51):
decisions have to be made, andeven though there are things that I don't
like about any of that stuff,I still think it is horrible what happened
on January sixth. The options thatI have in front of me are this,
I can let Joe Biden win anotherterm, even though there's no way
he's going to serve another term.So it would essentially be an administration of
a team of people. Remember wewere told by Karine Jean Pierre he has

(01:06:13):
a team of people. We don'tknow who they are, but they're running
the country. I'm assuming the teamof people times. Yeah, well after
four pm when he has to takea nap. So i feel like my
back's against the wall, but I'mgoing to take a stand. I'm going
to do what I think is rightout of a less than perfect situation.
And if you figure out a wayto save the country while not having to

(01:06:33):
weigh yourself down by voting for aguy you don't like, let me know
how that works out for you.Just give me an idea of how that's
going to play out for you.We're going to take a quick time out
when we get back. We're goingto find out what it's like to be
an actual delegate. What are youactually doing as a delegate? What do
you have to do to get here? We're going to find all that out.
Next from the Republican National Convention,brought to you by my friends at

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(01:07:45):
Welcome, Welcome to the third hourof the show. I am thrilled
to pieces to have two guests withme now. One who is responsible for
us being at the RNC, Heidiganal, the owner behind Rockymountain Voice dot com.
Thank you, thank you, thankyou for making this boss, Mandy.
Thank you for doing such a greatjob. It's been so fun to
listen to your coverage. Well,I got you here not just because I

(01:08:09):
wanted to thank you on the air, but because your dad, Harvey is
here as well. And Heidi saidto me when Guy said, oh my
gosh, you're going to be there, she goes Oh, this is my
dad's lifelong dream to be a delegateat the RNC. Harvey is in everything
you dreamed of and more. Well, the electricity, it's out of this
world, I mean, and thepeople I mean awesome, I mean,

(01:08:31):
and I'm just meeting the greatest peoplein the world's I just can't say it's
a dream come true. Well,let me ask you this, How do
you get to be a delegate?That's the first question. Well, it
started a long process. It wasabout eight years ago when she ran for
Seau Region and I decided to getinvolved and help her out and become a
precinct person. So I volunteered atthe precinct caucus and became a precin caucus

(01:08:58):
purpose person. And so I gotinvolved in the process, and I started
canvassing the neighborhoods and helping her outgetting elected and so forth. Mostly on
the golf course. Dado votes onthe golf course. I'm going to do
that right there, there we go. Yeah, I played. I play
golf about three times a week now. I always say leave me open.
I don't play with a particular group, right, and they always pair me

(01:09:18):
up with people. I met oiland gas people and all, and I
secured donations from like a golf course, hustler. The only was gambling on
your golf. You're like, solet's talk about my daughter and run the
SI. How the conversation has alwaysstarted out and by the time I was
done with him, We're all,I'm giving them my card and I'm saying,

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okay, here's where you want tosend them many that's hilarious. You
are very active in the party thoughoverall. Yes, I am. Like
I got involved and I've been stayingon and that it's been going for about
eight years. And I've gone upwith my other coachin precinct person with me.
Well, I mean we canvas allover the neighborhood almost like four hundred
and fifty homes and walk and talkto everybody and greeted them and passed out

(01:10:02):
literature. Yeah, I'm active.So how I want to ask you some
like basic nuts and bolts questions aboutbeing a delegate because you got chosen as
a delegate by the Colorado Party,right, how did that process work?
Well? It started off, ofcourse, I was just so the local
precinct elected me as a delegate forthe county, and so I went to
the county delegate delegation meeting, andat that point I got elected to the

(01:10:27):
state. To be accepted by thestate, the party had to review me
and I had to write a summaryto them of why I should go,
and I did, and I thinkthe fact that my daughter was a running
for governor helped a little bit.Yeah, what did you find out you
were going to get to be adelegate? How long ago? Oh?
Boy? Months ago? Yeah,right, you're going to have enough time

(01:10:49):
to plan. Actually, yeah,I was right around the State Assembly when
they found us. Okay, sodo you have to pay your own way?
Yes? Okay, so you gotto pay your own way and just
the party book, hotels and everything. Are you guys, is a collater
delegation all together? Yes, we'reWe're at one hotel all together. Super
fun. We all stay up tilllike two in the morning talking after we
get back, so we're all together. We ride a bus together over here,

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we sit together for the most part. The delegates are on the floor.
I'm an alternate, and then wehave guests that all sit together.
But it's just been a blast.I was going to ask you, Harvey,
what did you think what's going tohappen versus what you've actually experienced.
Has it lived up to your expectations? Oh, it's beyond. I mean
I'm sitting down there and at first, you know, you hear a lot

(01:11:36):
of the procedural stuff going on,i mean, voting for this, and
when it comes to your moment inthe highlight, everybody just goes like crazy,
banana crazy, and everybody's jocking totry to get into the camera views.
But it's kind of fun because wherewe're located is the entrance where they
bring the president in. I wasgoing to ask you about that because you
guys are right there. Were youable to see him well as he has

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entered the arene of weight any myfriend basically lieutenant government. Yeah, candidate
uh actually got a chance to shakehis hand last night. Well I noted
this earlier that last night when hecame in. Obviously we're watching the big
screen because he's down below. We'reup in the newsblade seats, and it
looked like at one point the someonereached for him and and he took a

(01:12:20):
hard step towards the wall, andthe Secret Service basically said, you know,
you got to back up to thedelegate that was Danny. He,
oh, shut up, that's hilarious. That makes that Danny apologizing and any
Kory shook his head, Oh that'sso, but he did he he he
stepped right over. Which is kindof a sad state of affairs. That

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seems to be the new reality,right, Yeah, it is. You
know, I have to say thesecurity has been amazing. When we get
on the bus there's always at leasttwo police officers of a yeah, oh
wow. I mean they're they're they'retaking this thing very seriously. Yeah,
we've we've talked about how tight securityhas been all over the place, how
wide the perimeter is now, Imean how big it is. Just getting

(01:13:04):
a ride share out of here atnight, we have to walk like a
mile just to get into an uberbecause nobody can come in here. But
it's been it's been a lot.What are you looking forward to? Do
you like jd Vance? Do youlike that pick? Do you like the
jd Vance? Well? I actuallyhe was my pick. The long I
like the He'll Billy elogy. Ithink great, he is the perfect guy,

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and I think he could be ournext president as well as and beyond
Trump. Well, I actually thinkthat's why Trump picked it because he sees
a younger guy that can kind ofcarry the mantel forward after Trump, because
he's going to be a one termpresident, well two terms, but you
know what I need, he issecond term and there will not be another
chance to run for reelection. Whatare you hoping to hear from JD Vance
tonight? Oh? I don't know. That's a good question, because,

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uh, you know, I'm justtried to see him up there and speaking
to us. Yeah. Number one, I think he just wants to be
a Trump's ring man right now andget his feet established before he stares to
make any great moves. He's agood debater. I watched some of his
debates. Yeah, I think he'sgonna he's gonna handle it. Come Ala
very well. Well, I dothink that we were watching earlier on the

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big screen. This is what's happeningat the Five Star Forum right now,
and they're doing all these mic checksand everything, and Trump came out and
did a mic check. So Ithink he's going to introduce Jadie Vance tonight,
which would be unusual, I think, but I think that'd be fantastic.
So we see he might speak tonight, and of course he's going to
speak tomorrow night, and I'm sureyou're looking forward to that. Yes,
Sam, I am. Well,Heidi. Let me ask you this because

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(01:15:00):
Nanny, It was pretty obvious thatthe liberal media and Colorado beat the snot
out of me INtime. Crazy,Yes they did, and I felt like
it wasn't fair to voters that wecouldn't get our message out, We couldn't
talk about policy, they directed everything, and that they were so coordinated the
headlines. If I did an interviewfor an hour and we talked about policy,
it would be completely different and everybodywould reverberate with it. And I

(01:15:21):
just thought, gosh, this iscrazy. How can we get our word
out to voters so they know thatwe have better solutions to the problems?
And so I met up with somefolks down in Texas that have Texas Scorecard,
which is a platform down there thatthey built over a decade and it
works great. They have over amillion people that get their news from Texas
Scorecard every day. So they mentoredme, talk to me about how my

(01:15:44):
work in Colorado, and we launchedit in January. It's a nonprofit,
so there's no paywalls, sponsors ads, no subscription fees. We wanted to
make it really easy for people toget their news. The newsletter comes out
a few times a week. It'scalled The Mountain Minute. It's a quick
five minute read. It's got afun place political part cartoon, and we
are unabashedly center right, Like wejust don't apologize for it, right,

(01:16:04):
and you shouldn't have to. Imean, here's the thing, if we
were all honest in the media,we would know that everybody has a lean
right, everybody is coming from adirection. It's just interesting that it's only
conservatives that will admit it. Yeah, I agree, Mania. It's been
really fun to build an army ofcitizen journalists too, Like we have more

(01:16:26):
and more people that are writing forus and going to a report on county
commissioner meetings, city council meetings allover Colorado, and we're trying to balance
commentary with actual news reporting. Wehave a great team, and we're building
up on social media. We've gotover one hundred thousand subscribers now that get
their newsletter every few times or everyfew days and get their news there.
And so I think we're starting tomake a dent and hopefully we'll have an

(01:16:47):
impact on the election. I hopeso too. Heidi Ganal and Harvey,
her dad a delegate today. Thankyou for sitting down with me and making
time, and thank you for sendingus here, because this has just been
the best experience of my life,just so good. I'm so grateful to
be a part of this, andI wouldn't be hear about you. Well,
we're grateful for you. That's whywe did it all right with the

(01:17:08):
utulogy Admiration Society, and we willbe right back after this. Joining me
now is a woman named Juliana,and in two thousand and two, when
she was seventeen years old, sheand your mother is that immigrated from Ukraine
to the United States. Juliana,Welcome to the show. Thank you,
thank you. There was a lotof talk last night about immigration, specifically

(01:17:29):
illegal immigration, but I did likethe fact that many of the speakers that
touched on illegal immigration also went onto talk about the value of legal immigrants
and what they bring to the tableand how important they are to the fabric
of the country. How did youcome here in the first place? So
we immigrated from Ukraine based on partialpolitical protection because when Ukraine have broken down

(01:17:53):
into little pieces, my grandparents,my paternal grandparents, left the country and
they have my graded to the UnitedStates, which allowed me later on to
come in and go through the processof residency and then citizenship. So what
your experience as a legal immigrant?Describe that process as best? Because you

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were still a minor, I'm guessingso your mom probably handled a lot of
the heavy lit come in. Yes, yeah, So what was that process?
Like? How many years did thattake? So depending on what you
do. But the way our processworked is that it took about three plus
years to get through the legal system, and you know, get through the
residency. So you first get invitedfor an interview to become a resident ellien.

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Then you wade out about two tofive years, and then they send
you another invitation saying hey, wouldyou like to become a citizen, and
then you apply, and then yougo through the process of an interview and
a series of tests and so on, and then you get sworn in and
you receive your certificate of citizenship.But this is overall from day one to

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the last moment when you were swornin and receive that certificate. It could
go anywhere between three to ten yearseasily, and that is one of the
reasons that people are coming here illegallybecause the process as it stands now is
so cumbersome, it's so it's drawnout, it's expensive. Did you have
to hire an attorney? Did yourmom do that? We did quite a

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bit on our own. When itgot a little bit more complicated and with
some language barrier, obviously, wehad to reach out for somehowp Yes,
So describe for me the difference betweenbeing a seventeen year old in Ukraine versus
being an eighteen year old in theUnited States. Growing up very fast really,

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yes, absolutely, from being shelteredat home and you know, being
taken care of to where my momhas a language barrier, wouldn't be able
to go to work exactly right therein that instances the residential residency stuff that
needed to be taken care for inorder to be able to work and thorn
and so forth. Our status isat the point of arrival was a little

(01:20:06):
bit different. So I was alreadyeligible to get a job, and I
was a teacher's assistant at the daycare, so I started getting language under my
belt pretty quickly and communicate and workand so on and and so forth.
So it was I was a caregiven for a little while. I can't
imagine coming here as a seventeen yearold and I'm guessing you didn't speak English

(01:20:28):
at all a little bit. Ihad a tutor growing up, so I
did knew how to get around,but it wasn't affluent English. Was that
just I can't imagine how overwhelming thatmust have been. It was definitely a
crazy, crazy change. Let meask you. We don't have a whole
lot more time, and I wantto ask your thoughts about the war in
Ukraine now. And obviously you fledUkraine for a reason, right, what

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was that political persecution? We werenot under political persecution. It's the Grand
Pierre, my paternal grandparents, whohave somehow obtained that status. I do
not know much in because they didpass away after they came back to Ukraine,
so there was really not much ofa conversation knowing how Yana was during
that period of time. And Idon't have anyone really to ask an inquired.

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But that's how originally we were ableto apply for residents and come in
into the United States. So whatare your thoughts about the war in Ukraine?
I think the whole scene is insaneand crazy and extremely unnecessary. Really,
yes, what do you think shouldhappen? I think we should probably
we strove and not get involved,and I think we should cause the funding

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and see what happens, see whatEurope will do, see what other countries
are do. What's crazy not thatUkraine is at war with Russia. I
think the it's not just our involvementas the United States of America. I
think it's just the war itself aswell, is just outrageous. There shouldn't
be no reason anyone should be invadingeach other's school trees. We are civilized

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people. There should be a stopto it. How would did you live
in a part of Ukraine that wasbecause there are parts of Ukraine that are
ethnically Russian, right, where itis a vast majority of Russia. Did
you live in one of those communities. Yes, So the city is Harky
from Ukraine. Sometimes it's called thesecond capital, so it is. There's

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a lot of Russian speaking people.Don't take me wrong. We all know
Russian. We all know Ukrainian rightnow. The change had happened and a
lot of people refuse speaking Russian.So ninety percent of a time everyone communicated
in Ukrainian really just as a pointof pride and order during the war.
Do you think there's a possibility thatthey will negotiate a peace that gives Russia

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crimea I would hope not to seethat happening. I don't know what's going
on between the two countries. Iknow they've been in rivalry for years,
and we will probably not know thetruth anytime soon. I just think everyone
should mind their own business. Julianna, you and I minding your own business.

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That's the new theme for twenty twentyfour. Mind your business. Okay.
Thank you so much for sitting downwith us, and I appreciate you
making time and I'm happy that youare being able to take advantage of the
American dream. And I'm grateful tobe here. Thank you, Bendy.
All Right, we will be rightback and wrap it up another day of
broadcasting. We are we have rescheduled, Lauren Bobert. I am telling you

(01:23:35):
guys, this is so fluid.That's the word I keep using. Aron
has earned every one of the fourdollars that he is being paid for this
entire week because he is hustling tryingto keep everybody organized. But if you
could see and we're going to walkaround a little bit after the show is
over and kind of do some videothat'll be in our social channels to show

(01:23:57):
you exactly what we're talking about interms of where we are on media Row.
We're going to show you the zonesso you understand what we're talking about
and what that looks like. Socheck out our media channels day Roy.
I'll have that stuff up later today. Now Tonight, We've got some really
important speakers tonight, some that I'mlooking forward to more than others, a

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lot of members of Congress. Wealso have Rick Grnell, he's the former
acting Detective Director of National Intelligence.And we've got New Gingrich He's going to
speak tonight. Peter Navarro is goingto speak tonight. He is the former
director of US Office of Trade andManufacturing. We're going to hear from several
everyday Americans. Now, they don'ttell us what those everyday Americans are going

(01:24:41):
to be talking about, but Iwill tell you that through the last two
nights I have the everyday American speecheshave been the most compelling by far,
because they're real people telling real storiesof how Joe Biden's policies have specifically impacted
their lives, and it's very powerfulstory. So we've got a few everyday
Americans tonight, and then the bighitters come. Greg Abbott from Texas shows

(01:25:06):
up. We've got Governor Doug Bergham, who I really believe is going to
end up being a Cabinet secretary inthe Trump administration. Kelly and Conway is
speaking tonight. Let's see here everyday American Kimberly Guilfoyle speaking tonight. Maybe
I'm you know, what, doyou think we can get to Kimberly ahead

(01:25:27):
of time and be like, please, don't yell your speech like you did
the last time. Don't yell,you can just give your speech. It's
fine, absolutely fine. We alsohave tonight, of course, the big
big story is vice presidential nominee SenatorJD. Vance, Donald Trump Junior is
going to speak before him, asis his wife. His wife. It's

(01:25:48):
really funny to see people talking abouthow Jade Vance is a white supremacist because
his wife is of Indian descent andthey have children that are far more brown
than they are white. And it'sjust that criticism kind of cracks me up.
So putting his wife out there,she is an accomplished attorney in her
own right. So putting his wifeout there may put some of that to

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rest, but I doubt it becausedoes the truth really matter in political campaigns?
No, No, it really doesn't. And then of course we think,
I think that Trump is going tocome out and introduce Jade Vance,
you know what I mean, ormaybe he's going to come because he definitely
did a Mike check earlier. Wesaw him come out in the arena.
Maybe he was doing it for tomorrownight, but they've been the It's really

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kind of cool being able to seethis screen up here, a rod because
from our vantage point in Panther Arenawhere all the media people are, we
have a giant screen in the arena, like you know in the middle of
ball arena, and we get tosee what's going on in the five serf
forum, which is where the restof the delegate stuff goes on. So
all day when there's no delegate stuffgoing on, they're doing the run through,

(01:26:56):
so we get to see everybody comeout. They put him in front
of the microphone they show and wherethe teleprompters are, and Trump came out
earlier and was on the stage earlier. So that would indicate to me that
he is going to appear on stagetonight and say some words. Maybe he's
going to introduce Jade Vance. Idon't know, but last night he was
not scheduled on any schedule to appear, and of course he showed up just

(01:27:18):
in time to hear the speeches ofwhat I'm calling last night the speeches of
the vanquished, because three of hisprimary opponents, the vek Wamaswami, Ron
DeSantis, and Nikki Haley all spokelast night. And by the way,
if you haven't checked today's blog atmandy'sblog dot com, I admitted what I
thought were the best speeches from lastnight. Not all the speeches made the

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cut, but the ones that arethere are worth your time and I'm okay,
let me just walk this back.Most of the speeches there are worth
your time. I was incredibly Idon't know if I was incredibly disappointed,
but I was disappointed in Nikki Haleyspeech. But I'm trying to extend a
little grace because she had to getup there and swallow her pride and throw

(01:28:05):
her full throated support behind Donald Trump, who said really nasty things about her,
as did Ron DeSantis. Ron deSantis seemed far more enthusiastic about it,
but of course he's been out ofthe race for a very long time,
so it certainly doesn't have the samesting I'm guessing as Nikki Haley,
who stayed in for a very longtime trying to get traction that just ever

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came. So that was last night. Tonight is supposed to be on foreign
policy. I don't know exactly whois going to stay on that, but
I believe based on some of thenames, we're gonna hear about Israel,
we're gonna hear about some of theother things that have happened around the world.
As this night of the convention isdesigned to show everybody that Donald Trump

(01:28:50):
is better prepared and better able tohandle events around the world than Joe Biden
is, and I don't think hehas to explain that much to make that
case. I think one of thebiggest disappointments for me of the Biden administration
has been the haphazard and ridiculous foreignpolicy that has been pursued by the President.

(01:29:12):
And I don't know if it wasGates or if it was Brennan that
said Joe Biden has never been rightabout anything when it comes to foreign policy,
and boy, those are right.Those were definitely definitely right. You
can text us, by the way, at five sixty six nine zero if
you have questions. A lot ofyou were weighing in on our last guest

(01:29:32):
from Ukraine, and some of themsaid, what does your Ukrainian guests think
of Vance's opposition to funding Ukraine.She told me off the air, she
doesn't want to. She said,pull the funding, just pull the funding.
Why are we paying for a warin Ukraine and Russia? And I
thought that was really interesting, butshe said, let them sort it out,
Let Europe figure this out. Soit was a very interesting perspective and

(01:29:57):
it is not maybe what people wereexpecting. Interesting viewpoint from someone that is
from Ukraine. Says this Texter PresidentBiden and Hunter Biden's non political involvement had
sure buddies in the what had Muddy'sthe water? For me, whether our
money going there is good for Americaor America paying off a favor that was
given to the Biden family. Myissue with the Ukrainian funding is simply that

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we don't know where the money isgoing, and it's not being accounted for,
and there are too many stories outthere of Ukrainian oligarchs and generals buying
expensive homes in Italy and I'm nothappy about that at all. That being
said, it is kind of thefirst last line of defense in Europe.

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But again, if Europe was payingmore of their own freight, we would
not have to worry about this.So a lot of you weight in on
my comments earlier, and if youjust joined me, first of all,
you missed a banger of a show. And all the podcasts will be up
individually and you can listen to allthe interviews and do all that stuff.
But I I defended my choice tovote for Donald Trump and did so quite

(01:31:05):
passionately. And I got to tellyou the email or the text messages are
a lot of them are like this, Mandy, I'm with you, No
way I will ever vote for thatman. Never happen if he's on the
ticket. The Republicans are washed up. Well, I'm voting for Trump and
that's where we are. That iswhere we are. A lot of people
feel that way. It's I wantto know for you guys, I want

(01:31:29):
to know who is who is watchingthe RNC. Are you guys watching at
night? Amro look at the ratingsfor the RNC. Can we see if
the ratings are I'm curious how manypeople are actually consuming this content. I'm
guessing Monday night there was a lotof people tuning in to you just kind
of see what was going to happen. And I know that Thursday night a

(01:31:53):
ton of people are going to bewatching Donald Trump's speech on Thursday. So
I'm not sure how many people arewatching. But are you guys watching at
home? Are you just listening tome and letting me bring the best of
the debate to you. RNC Nightone ratings down five million viewers compared to
twenty sixteen, despite dramatic Trump appearance. Eighteen point one million viewers across twelve

(01:32:18):
broadcasters and cable networks. So that'snot a lot of people. It's send
even a lot of Republicans watching theconvention, which is a shame, you
know, is it because it's boring? I mean, well, wait a
minute, but RNC Night, Waita minute now, RNC Night ratings oh

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up from the twenty twenty convention.Yes, since so down five million from
twenty sixteen. But you and that'sfrom the Independent USA today says Night one
ratings C fifty the twenty twenty convention. Okay, okay, so eighteen point
one million viewers. What could makeit better? I think this is something
we're going to talk about a littlebit tomorrow. Tomorrow we got a bunch

(01:33:00):
of guests as well, and thenwe're gonna kind of do a wrap up
for the last hour a right,and now we're talking about this yesterday.
We're gonna find someplace quiet and we'regonna just do a wrap up of the
best speeches. Obviously getting ready forPresident Trump to give his acceptance speech on
Thursday night. But I want tomake sure that if you are not watching,

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which apparently a lot of people arenot watching, there are people that
have spoken during this convention that areworth hearing and they are worth paying attention
to, and I want to makesure that you guys can hear the best
of that. So the last hourof the show tomorrow is going to be
a lot of sound bites of someof the best speeches, things that I
thought were really incredible and that Iwant to share with you. Mandy.

(01:33:42):
I've never watched the RNC until thisyear. I'm really impressed so far.
There you go, Mandy. I'mwatching RNC on YouTube via CBN. It's
great. I'm watching. I've watchedboth nights and plan to watch the next
two. We are watching almost allof it based on two World Wars which
we bailed out Europe. Do youthink anything will change? Oh, here's

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one, Mandy. I'm a teamsterand I was really excited to see Sean
O'Brien at the RNC. Teamster,are are you? Is this? I
don't know if this is the sameteamster who texted me yesterday and said I'm
a teamster in Commerce City and weare Trump we are Trump Country. I'd
be curious to know where you are, Texter, and if you are a

(01:34:26):
different teamster, Mandy. Did yousee the article about Project twenty twenty five
posted by nine News. Why wouldI do that? I mean, why,
why don't I just put my facein a wood chipper and do that.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, I haven't. I
haven't looked at any local news fromDenver because obviously we've been pretty consumed with
what's happening here. Uh. Soyou're voting for the child molester. Huh,

(01:34:50):
the guy who wants to have sexwith his own daughter. No,
I think you're confused. I thinkyou meant the other guy who showered with
his daughter in an inappropriate way thatshe felt like writing about in her diary.
I normally wouldn't make that comment,but it seems appropriate in response to
the one that you sent me.Just throwing that out there, Mandy.

(01:35:13):
The convention is not a football game. That's why there's no viewership. You
know what's funny. I was talkingto my boss, Dave Tappery yesterday,
and we were just talking about youguys. Should I wish you could come
and sit with me while I'm becausewe're in the nosebleeds seats above everything in
the forum, and I'm sitting therewatching all of these people, and you

(01:35:33):
cannot believe the passion and excitement thatthey have. They're all waving placards,
they're doing the YMCA, they arehaving an absolute blast, and the enthusiasm
for Donald Trump is off the charts. And I said to my boss,
I said, you know, I'vebeen doing this job for a long time,

(01:35:53):
and I realize that I am cynicaland shaded because I have seen the
sausage be made and I know exactlyhow it plays out. But there's part
of me that wishes I could bethat enthusiastic about another human being. And
he said, this is this istheir team. It's just like sports.
You know, you get a bunchof Broncos fans together in a bar and

(01:36:14):
they're gonna have a blast. Thisis what this is. This is way
more important than sports. And Idon't mean to disparage sports in any way,
shape or form, because it's agreat way to, you know,
give ourselves something to focus on that'snot incredibly serious and life threatening. But
this feels like that. It feelslike the biggest fan event ever. And

(01:36:35):
I'm now, Ayron, let meask you this. Aren't you interested to
see the difference between the RNC andthe DNC, because we're gonna be at
the DNC in August in Chicago.But I can't wait to see how the
vibe is different, the people aredifferent, if if there's gonna be the
same kind of like kind of joyfulfeel I am, like I was saying

(01:37:00):
yesterday, a polar opposite convention becauseI think there is the writing on the
wall. I think they were readingthe tea leaves that things are not going
their way. It's trending in abad direction. And this is coming from
all sources, left, center andright, all saying this is not going
in the way that the Democrats wantto go. In terms of most of

(01:37:20):
the swing states as an example,I think there's going to be nervousness.
I think there's going to be desperation. I don't know in what form that's
going to change things, but Ithink for us on behind the scenes,
I think I anticipate a bit moreof a struggle to get certain individuals to
join the program on this on thesense of they know that they can't they

(01:37:42):
can't mess this up, they can'tsend but maybe there's But on the flip
side, the other thought of itis on the sense of more desperation.
If they have people there, thereare people that like of different guests that
like look into our show and saymaybe as a bit of desperation. Even
know that obviously we you know,you know lead right, you got to
talk to the other you gotta talkto the side. Yeah, desperation will

(01:38:03):
benefit us in terms of in termsof our program. But I feel like
I'm going to sense that nervousness.I'm gonna sense that desperation. That's gonna
be an interesting element. Do youthink to continue my sports analogy, do
you think it's gonna be like whena severely overmatched team has to go play
the other team that they know aregonna is gonna be the like? Is

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that the feeling it's like you stillhave to go play the game. You
can't just not play it because youknow you're gonna lose. Or do you
go into it thinking, this isour opportunity to turn it around, This
is our chance to save things,and this is our you know, we
just have to go in and goin with all we've got and we're gonna
be able to pull this out.Do you think hope? I think there's
a little hope springs eternal with thekind of party faithful that are gonna be

(01:38:49):
at the DNC just like this isall party faithful here, right. These
are people who eat, live andbreathe. The Republican Party a deeper analogy.
I think the oh, I thinkit's gonna be a bit of cover
zero. I think that they aregoing to literally go all everything's going to
be out of the holster. Everythinggoes against absolutely everything against the wall,

(01:39:10):
and see what sticks, because rightnow nothing's working. So I'm not I'm
not, I'm not. I'm notsure again what form that's going to come,
but I think you're going to seesome really bombastic, bold speeches,
specifically a lot of desperation because we'vealready the messaging already has been on their
side. This is kind of similarin one vein that we've seen for some

(01:39:30):
speeches or just really the Republicans messagingover the years of the sense that this
is this this massive election, everythingwe're gonna is going to change, like
this is the one we cannot lose. We've seen that from the Republicans.
But I think we're going to seean extreme mode from the Democrats that we've
never seen because they've already they've alreadyhad that messaging. I think it's going
to take up to up notts toeleven because they understand as of right now,

(01:39:54):
if a couple just one or twoof the swing states doesn't go Joe
Bidens way, because to get themall at this moment, oh yeah,
all of them have to go away. I think that desperation is going
to suggest that they are going todo absolutely everything possible, if they haven't
already started to make it so thisthis convention makes an impact viewership or whatever
it is. I well, Iactually think the DNC is going to be

(01:40:15):
really watched because of the chaos aroundthis. They're gonna people want to see
how the Democratic Party is going tocome together and for once, and Ross
made this comment to me yesterday andI have to agree with it wholeheartedly.
The Republican Party is terrible as aparty at staying disciplined and staying on message
and you know, making sure thatthey're not going rogue and creating problems from

(01:40:39):
their self. This this week inventionhas been very, very disciplined from every
level. I mean everywhere you go, everybody's on message, unity, positivity,
We have the answers, we havethe solutions. Are you better off
than you were four years ago.Why not dive into one more sports analogy.
You always hear about did someone oneplayer come out in another teams unit

(01:41:00):
like this looks like that other team. These two literally been polar opposites of
what I expected, because I expectedthe frantic, a bit more crazy,
a bit more unpredictable from this convention. Now that I've seen what this is,
the message of unity and message ofbeing together, all of them following
suit Marjorie Ceddergreen, who we talkedto, We've just hearing a little bit
of Lauren Bowbert as example. It'sbeen the polar opposite, and now I

(01:41:24):
expect it's the DNC. What Iexpected at the RNC this week and a
lot of it. Obviously, Iknow it came with a very un unfortunate
circumstances what happened on Saturday, Butafter Saturday, the events of what took
place, I mean, this hasbeen it brought the in terms of events
like that, because we talk about, like you know, nine to eleven

(01:41:45):
in different events that bring together thecountry and in an uncomfortable way, but
in a way you can't not mentionthat this what happened with the Republican's nominee
on the Republican side has brought togetherthe party in a really at first comfortable
but now they've all just said,this has really been an opportunity for us
to come together with that UNI thatthey clearly have. And it's been it's

(01:42:05):
been strange, but it's it's it'sbeen palpable. I mean, this has
been a complete one eighty from whatI expected. Absolutely, and the the
level of commitment that we've seen fromeveryone. There's been a few speeches that
it's like, oh, like honestly, Ted Cruise's speech last night was dark.

(01:42:26):
He was like, mister policy walk. He's been making the circles talking
all about a government spending, whichyou know I love. I'm not a
huge Ted Cruz fan, but thismorning listen to him talk about policy and
be so nerdy and spending and allof that stuff, I was like,
Ooh, I might have to giveTed Cruise another look. Rob Dawson,
Hey, hey, I was justposting a Corey Gardner video. Cory Gardner,

(01:42:48):
we ran into him, or youranted to him earlier today, and
hopefully we'll be able to run intohim again. What is your takeaway on
the the tone of the convention sofar? I think Corey Gardner put his
desk first time in twenty years thatthe Republican Party has had great footing heading
into a convention. It seems alot of people on the same page,

(01:43:11):
a lot of excitement, and Ithink the build up is they just want
to see Trump and we're one dayaway and JD. Vance we get to
meet him tonight. Yes, Andwhat Gardner told me real quick, he's
like b he thinks that JD.Vance has to let people in and he
thinks he'll do that to know whohe is. He's going to talk about
himself and he Gardner believes that Vancewill connect with a lot of Americas because

(01:43:34):
it comes from the forgotten part YEP. And because of his history. I
think he gives us a little miniHillbilly Elogi tonight. I think he introduces
himself, tells his life story,tells why that matters, and basically looks
into the camera and says, andthis is why I know how you feel.
This is why I'm the one whosays I know you're suffering and I
can fix it. It might bea very Bill Clinton moment, Man of

(01:43:58):
the People, A bit yeah,that whole moment. So it's gonna be
fantastic. We will be there.We will bring it all to you tomorrow
tomorrow. Arod and I actually areflying back tomorrow afternoon after the show because
a Rod will be working on Colorado'smorning news on Monday and Friday, so
we are gonna we're gonna see thespeech on the airplane. Well, so

(01:44:20):
then tonight we need to try tosee if we can get on the floor.
Are do you mark karaoke? No? No, no, I'm talking
about like the floor of the Strangerby Billy Jill, so you can sing
again. There was karaoke last night. We shall see if it's talking about
tonight, I'll stop it stop.We're gonna turn this. Yeah, we're
gonna we're gonna turn that. Yes, it definitely is. We're gonna turn

(01:44:42):
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