08-01-24 FULL SHOW - Have You Fire Hardened Your House Yet? Plus, Is Kamala Black?

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do with Ross every day, but we were talking about
Donald Trump's performance yesterday at the National Association of Black Journalists,
and oh do I have things to say? So many
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Flash today on the blog can you make your homes
safer from wildfires? Why the deuce are idiots shooting off fireworks?
Trump set people off again yesterday? Scrollings, scrollings, scrollings, scrolling, ogs, scrolling, scrolling.
Bobert's opponent is drowning in money more Colorado gop wrangling.

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Tina Peter said she did no wrong. Colorado gets an
F for affordability. The Biden adman cuts a deal with
the nine to eleven terrorists. Biden said some stuff, but
does anyone care? Local law enforcement pushes back at the
Secret Service. Maduro is crushing descent in Venezuela. You don't
hate the media enough. The Heritage Foundation should have never

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gone political. Scary new scams to know about you, say
us A. Katie Ledecki could be the woman's swimming goat
soon who is playing this summer at the Ford Amphitheater.
Younger men are dating older women. After years of sky
high prices, food companies are on notice. Ryan Reynolds is
a smart dude. The multiple alarm trick is really bad

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for you. Those are the headlines on the blog at
mandy'sblog dot com and you really should check it out.
And got some good videos on there today. The most
interesting video to me is I don't even know who
this woman is. It's on Cody Sanchez's TikTok. I don't
know who Cody Sanchez is, but this woman talking about
the fact that actor Ryan Reynolds is a billionaire. But

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he didn't become a billionaire from his movies. He became
a billionaire doing exactly what we do here on the
radio with advertising. And I'll explain very shortly, and that
is like when I do a spot, if there's a
news story that we just talked about that immediately connects
you to the advertiser and what they're selling. I always
try to include it, you know, I always try to

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tie my advertisers in. First of all, if it's good advice,
it's good advice. Second of all, I want my advertisers
to succeed, because when they succeed, I succeed and everyone's happy.
So Bryan Reynolds started a marketing agency that just does
that fascinating. So that's a short video because it's TikTok
and everybody knows. Apparently on TikTok you can't go more
than forty seconds because the audience's attention span is less

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than that. Now, I've always thought I had a short
attention span, but some of the studies lately on attention
spans are terrifying.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
But I digress.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
We have a couple coming on today, Tony and Don Moore.
They started an organization just a neighborhood volunteer situation helping
people harden their houses against wildfire. And I've heard it
called the Firewise program. I live in a firewise community,
and it's basically like enough people in your community have
taken the steps to do the best you can to

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ensure that if a fire comes to our neighborhood, it's
not going to spread as quickly as it can. Right.
There's things that you can do, and so they're going
to join us. We're going to talk about some of
those tips. It's not too late to do some of
this stuff around your property, and in many many cases,
I actually think this is going to become one of
these things that you're going to have to prove to

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your insurance company if they're.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Going to keep writing you. And I know that, well,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Okay, let me walk that back, because I have not
dealt with this particular situation. But I do know that
my insurance company gives us discounts for things that have
to do with protecting our house from wildfire. You know,
space around the house. You have to have no tree.
We don't qualify because I have a tree right by
my house and I really like it. So we'll just
roll the dice on that. But you can do these

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things to get a lower insurance premium. But I believe
that as insurance companies begin to flee the state, and
they are I have a story today on the blog
that we are now tied for fifth place in the
United States with Montana for being the most expensive place
to live. Yay us woo. A lot of that has

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to do with our homeowners insurance rates. We're number two
in the country for haill claims. We're number one for
wildfire damage. I think, I don't We're very high up
there for wildfire damage. I don't remember right now. But
I'll look it up later. And you know, now Colorado
has done what Florida did, which has been it's going
to be a disaster for the state of Florida, just

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like it's going to be a disaster for the state
of Colorado. And they have become an insurer last resort.
And what that does is they will charge artificially low prices.
There will be a catastrophic loss, and the taxpayers will
then pay the money to pay for the rebuilding of
these homes. The homes we all can't afford in the mountains,

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We're going to be paying to rebuild them. That's how
this is going to work. Now, I understand that we
have to have property insurance. We must have this product,
especially if you carry a mortgage. It's required, you can't
go without it. But I think that there has to
be ways to incentivize insurance companies to want to come here.
Even with the high claim rate. There has to be

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a way to work with insurance companies to figure out
how we can get you know, something done in the
state of Colorado in terms of helme owners insurance. And
I just want to say this, you know, it is
very tempting. After every hailstorm to call your insurance company
and get a new roof. But people are now losing
their coverage. They are not getting they're getting much more

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expensive coverage. So that quote free roof that they got
because they had some minor heil damage, you know. I
there's a point of your ROI your return on investment
that people have gotten so used to, and I'm just
gonna say abusing the insurance system. I have a neighbor

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who has had three roofs in the last five years.
And y'all, we've had some hale, we've had some hail
damage even but not that nothing. And he doesn't live in.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
My direct area.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
So maybe they had way harder hal that I didn't
know about in his part of the neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
I don't know. Maybe one of them was a repair
from a bad job.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I don't know, but I'm just speculating because it was
enough that I went, huh, that's the third roof in
a very short period of time, because I notice things
because I am the Missus Kravitz of my neighborhood, and
I walk around the whole thing anyway, So we're gonna
talk about fire rising your house giving you some great
ideas about that, and then of course throughout the show
again we're gonna have the latest updates from these fires.

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I'm just gonna say it. I'm starting to see this
on x and other social media platforms. Is anybody else
just raise your hand? I mean, you know, if you're
sitting at your desk, just you do the half rays
like the I don't want to really be called on,
but I just want you to know I'm participating. Hand
you know what I'm talking about. How many people are
starting to think somebody's setting these fires cause I mean,
you guys, in how many days we have and don't

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get me wrong, conditions are ripe. They are ripe for fire.
They are perfect for fire. If they're ever perfect conditions, well,
if there was one hundred mile an hour wins like
there was during the Marciall fire, that was perfect conditions
for wildfire. These are really good conditions for a wildfire.
It just seems suspect to me. And if that's the case,
I ugh. I'm not a fan of the death penalty

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for a lot of reasons. I do believe that there
are crimes that should be punishable by death, but there's
enough holes in the system that it gives me pause.
But for a person who sets a fire on purpose
that takes the human life, We've already had one death
that we know of and.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Destroys millions and millions and millions.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Of dollars of property, which has a cascading effect of
continuing to destroy integrate our property insurance market. I'm that
would be one. I'd be like if I if we
have you on camera doing and I would consider it
because this is a crime that has just such far
reaching consequences for so many people. And I have a

(09:16):
story today and I just want to say this. Y'all
know how I feel about fireworks.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Not a fan. I just think they're stupid.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I just do. If I want to see something blow up,
I'll go to a sporting clays range and shoot clay
pigeons and blow them up. That's satisfying, And it has
a loud noise, same right, And now we know that.
I guess yesterday at six twenty seven, somebody just complete

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brain dead morons went out to the Rapahoe County Fairgrounds
and started shooting off fireworks. And guess what happened. Oh
if you guessed they started a fire, you win. And
I mean this stuff infuriates me because again, what you
set something on fire and then you just go And

(10:08):
they did leave, by the way, they left before anything
was there.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
They did put the fire out.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
South the South Metro Fire Rescue put the fire, got
it under control before seven. They were you know, took
care of the hotspots. But that's that kind of stuff.
It absolutely infuriates me. I don't understand the whole pyro thing.
I've never understood it. Fire for me, is my friend, right,
but it's also one of those friends that you don't
want to tick off because you know that they will

(10:33):
take you down. That's how I feel about fire. I
love fire when I'm cooking or it's in the fireplace,
but other than that, not super close, not super big
fan there. I hope that they find these people and
arrest them and charge them with arson because until people
start going to jail for this for long periods of time.
And I'm not talking about if someone is actually setting

(10:55):
these fires. I'm talking about dumbasses who go out and
shoot fireworks off in this kind of weather, in this
kind of situation, when, by the way, there are multiple
fires already burning across the landscape. Mandy this text said
By the way, you can always text us at our
Common Spirit Health text line five six six nine. Oh, Mandy,

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I love watching fireworks on the fourth of July. I
feel like hating fireworks is almost Unamerican. No, being an
American would be trying to ban fireworks. I'm allowed to
be a contrarian. I don't have to like everything that
everybody else likes, just like everybody else doesn't have to
like everything that I like.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
And that's the beauty of America. We can all like
our own stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I'm not trying to ban them. I just think they're stupid.
And if you're out there shooting them off right now,
I think you're stupid. Not you, Texter, I mean the
bigger you, the dumb you of society. So there you go, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Seems like someone is starting these Also, I would not
be surprised if the death was a murder covered up
by fire. Someone has seen too many episodes of ncis No.
I'm just kidding that could totally happen. Likely not, but
it could. I'm not saying no, I'm just saying maybe not. Mandy.
I don't think they are intentionally set, but idiots will

(12:13):
be idiots and right now in the front range, things
are so dry a fart on a rock might set
something ablaze. The gross reservoir fire was called by something
someone doing something stupid. Yeah, I saw that. They said
it was an accident, but I didn't hear what the
accident was. Does anybody know what the act? It was
an accident?

Speaker 6 (12:28):
Little?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Now, here's the thing. If you're working on if you're
working on a car in your yard and something sparks,
everything is so dry right now that it is possible
that you could start a fire with that that quickly, right,
So it could genuinely be an accident. That wasn't someone
playing with fire, dealing with fire. I don't know, but
it could be them being dumbasses as well. Mandy, our

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new insurance agent, told us that some companies are jacking
up rates because they're pulling out of Colorado.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Well, the new insurer of last resort will be up
and running, I believe next year here in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
I read that today.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I get the frustration with the fires, but you're giving
off some slight Karen vibes today. I don't care. I
don't careen hah, say what I did there? No, The
reality is this, I'm I don't have. I have irrational
fears about a few things, and I think everyone has
irrational fears. I have an irrational fear about running out
of toilet paper if you go in my garage right now.

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I'm just saying, we're ready for the next pandemic, the
next two pandemics. Irrational fear of that. And then I
have an irrational fear of some kind of natural disaster
destroying my home. And I say irrational because statistically the
chances of that happening are so small. In Florida, it
was hurricanes, you know, even though there's a lot of hurricanes,

(13:46):
the chances of having your home completely destroyed in a
hurricane are still pretty small in the grand scheme of things.
And my chances of my house burning down hopefully are
pretty small. But yet, living in Colorado, this is the
thing that's dresses me out the most. Fire season gives
me anxiety so much so that I'm thinking of buying
a house in another state just to go there during

(14:08):
fire season. I'll still do the show, but it it
just stresses me out.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Uh the Boulder fires yesterday, Lake Shore was an accident
fixing fences that's what I'm talking about. You're fixing fences.
Something happened. I don't know, I have no idea. Have
an Arson investigator on At one time it was considered
a sex crime, like their sexual gratification for Arson. Wow,
that's I was not aware of that. That is a

(14:40):
little bit creepy. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Cody Sanchez is amazing.
She should be a guest. Okay, then what's her deal? Texter,
I'm going back to the bottom. My neighbor's tree. My
neighbor's tree I have none is too close to my house.
Scares the heck out of me. But what can I

(15:01):
do if it is on your property? If that tree
is on your property in any way, shape or form,
you can request that the neighbor trim it back because
it is their responsibility. And if they don't trim it back,
you could say, very nicely, if you don't take care
of this, I'm going to have it trimmed back and
my guy's going to do more of a hatchet job. Uh. Yeah,
you can do that. I mean, if you like your neighbor,

(15:22):
I don't know how you feel about your neighbor. So, Mandy,
now you're trying to say the fires are a conspiracy.
Do you have your tinfoil hat on today? No, A
conspiracy is something that probably couldn't happen. But we've seen
too many human cause fires already. It just was weird
the way that they've sprung up in the same general vicinity, right,
not in the exact same area, but all And maybe

(15:43):
it's just because there's more to burn there. I don't know,
but I know I'm not the only one that's saying
this at all, Mandy. Climate activists are constantly starting fires.
You know, I've got to get a climate scientist on
the show to ask this question. You would think that
in the cycle of life. We already know that in
the past, when supervolcanoes have erupted, they have coated the

(16:03):
Earth's atmosphere with a layer of ash that actually affected
the climate for like ten years, right or even longer.
So if we are constantly if everything is on fire,
they have a fire that is like four hundred thousand acres,
It's like six hundred and twenty square miles of California
is on fire. Africa burns every year, huge parts of
the planes burn every year. It's part of the life

(16:26):
cycle of the savannah. And it has to happen or
other the West, things don't grow right. And now we
have everything in Colorado, so we're all these particulates are
going into the atmosphere. Could this just be part of
the life cycle of the Earth? And the Earth is saying, look,
we're getting a little too warm. Now's the time we're
gonna set everything on fire. We've got, you know, let's

(16:47):
throw off a few volcanoes and cool things down. And
I realize I'm anthromorphizing the Earth, But why not.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
I mean, we've done.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
It for years, Mother Earth, Come on, you know what
I'm talking about. I just think that would be an
interesting question. We need to institute restitution, says this texter.
You know what, somebody started a fire by oh the
big fire in California that was started by a guy
who set a car on fire and pushed it off
into a heavily wooded canyon. And that's how that fire started.

(17:17):
They already know who did it, They already got the guy.
I think these kids or whoever it is shooting off
fireworks should have to stand there while we set their
car on fire with fireworks and just let it burn.
That for me is restitution. Oh, you set a fire accidentally.
Oh yeah, okay, we did too, It just happened to
be in your car. We are going to take a
quick time out. And when we get back, oh boy,
we got to dip our toe into Trump's appearance yesterday

(17:39):
at the National Association.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
A Black Journalist. Oh boy, we'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
All right.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
We are back, and we're working our way through a
one o'clock interview.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
We're talking a lot about fires and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
And I've got a couple coming on and they have
created a fire mitigation posse and they've just done such
a great job aggregating all of fire hardening and firewise
stuff onto one website. So we're gonna talk to Tony
and her husband just right at the top of the hour.
But in the meantime, I just got a text message
that I want to share with you. When I said, okay,
I've got to talk about this Trump meeting, and you

(18:15):
guys are lighting up the text line so fast. I
can't keep up. Mandy, do we really have to.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Talk about Trump?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I just feel like this has already been beat up
by like, just wait, beat up by everyone, Ross, Michael Brown,
buck Sexton, and Clay Travis well, the reality is is
that there are people that listen to this show that
don't listen to any of those other programs. I hope
I'm going to bring something unique to the conversation, but
I think that everyone talking about this is what has
to happen. If Trump is going to pull it together

(18:43):
and rein in his worst instincts, the changed man of
the convention is gone. And on the one hand, I
made a point of this on the blog today. On
the one hand, I pointed out that by asking about
Kamala's switch from being Indian to being black did happen
fairly recently? And I've got receipts on the blog today

(19:06):
that you can see clearly the AP put out Attorney
General Kamala Harris wins the open Senate seat to replace
retiring Democrats Senator Barbara Boxer in a race that featured
two Democrats in California. She is the first Indian American senator,

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so in this she's Indian American. But then then they
have more I have more receipts on the blog today,
and I'm just saying, you know what, Trump is right,
but does it matter? Does it matter in the grand
scheme of things? Because all of the stuff that I
have on the blog today, have you heard it anywhere else?
Have you seen a bunch of well you know what

(19:49):
I mean, I can do this right now and let
me just play this.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
This is actually Kamala Harris herself. This is Kamala Harris.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Could become the first Indian senator in US history, which
would be quite an acomplishment.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Knockwood, Knockwood, Indian senator.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
So and don't get me wrong, I know where that's Jamaican,
but she's leaned into this Indian thing, maybe because it
helped her strategically. But again, I have more receipts on
the blog, but doesn't matter because the only thing you're
hearing is President Trump pushing back against the woman who

(20:28):
I believe set out to make the story about her.
There's two different kinds. Well, there's more, way more than
that approach to interviewing people. But if you go into
it swinging, and by swinging, I mean you come out
no good mornings, no hello, no thank you for being here,
just swinging with the nastiest question you can get. You
are you are making it about yourself. You're not making

(20:55):
it about the interviewee. Now, in my career. I've always
thought this, this is my strategy with interviews. I want
to ask the questions that pop into my head, because
as I'm listening to who I'm interviewing, inevitably things pop
into my head. I hope I'm asking the questions that
you guys want asked. But more importantly, I want to
let the person explain their point of view so you
can make a decision as the viewer about whether or

(21:16):
not you like them. The story should never be about me.
There's been two times in my career, two separate interviews
where I was part of the story. And the first
was when I interviewed Reverend Fred Phelps, the hateful now
dead leader of the Westboro Baptist Church, this awful, awful man,
and he was bringing a protest down to Fort Myers
and I had a show, and I was like, you

(21:37):
know what, he was going to come and protest at
some guy's funeral with their God Hates bag signs and
all this stuff. So we scheduled an interview with him,
and I started the interview by saying, Reverend, thank you
for coming on today, just to let you know. I
to find what you do what you do to these
at funerals to be repugnant. I wanted you to know
that before this interview, so you know my viewpoint said,

(22:00):
where in the Bible does it say God hates fags?
That was my first question, and he got super mad,
and the whole interview lasted twenty nine seconds and it
was absolutely hilarious. And I wish I had a copy
of it to play for you, but I do not.
And we are in a situation now where we have

(22:21):
reporters who are trying to make their bones by Cohen
full Bore at Donald Trump. And I got a text
message from a friend of mine. As a matter of fact,
I'm going to read it because I think it's an
interesting perspective. This friend is on the left for sure,
And this friend said, sent me the New York Times
article on this interview, which by the way, doesn't point
out that he was right. It's just talking about how

(22:43):
he came back at this reporter. And my friend said,
so he's got some points for the balls to get
in front of this particular crowd, but overall it did
not go well for him. Also, I heard they started
late because his team was trying to convince them not
to fact during the talk and not as he says
publicly that their equipment was malfunctioning. Now, if you watch

(23:05):
the interview and the interviews on the blog today, you
can watch the whole thing for yourself.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
It's a little over half an hour.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
There's constant references to the audio issues during the session
Trump's and I can't hear you, Harris Faulkner said, I'm
having trouble hearing too, So there were significant audio issues.
So I'm going to lean into the Trump camps kind
of reasoning for that. That being said, what does it
matter because he just feeds up these sound bites, and

(23:34):
the sound bites don't get context because we know context
only only counts if you are on the left. If
you're on the right, context is not it has no
value whatsoever. But if you're on the left, context is
super important. So he keeps giving them more ammunition. And
somebody said, maybe black people would care about this stuff,

(23:54):
but they're not gonna see it. And that's my point.
If you don't follow right leaning X, we don't know,
subscribe to right leaning writers, or visit right leaning sites,
you don't hear about any of this. Zero. Now, what's
happening in the left leaning media right now scares the
crap out of me, because the left leaning media for

(24:14):
a long time kept telling us we're not biased, we're
not biased, we're not biased, and by gosh, by golly,
it's all in your head. They have absolutely dropped the
charade about bias.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
They have ended it.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
They're going back in amending news stories now that they
wrote in twenty nineteen about the woman who is now
running for president. It's inconvenient for her to be reminded
that she was put in charge of the border by
Joe Biden.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
It's inconvenient.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
So they're literally rewriting their news stories right now. Do
you really think they're going to give you context or
mention the fact that, yeah, you know, he was right,
she did identify as an Indian American for a long time.
More importantly, who cares? This is like the dumbest talking
point ever, and whoever's advising him on this is an idiot.

(25:02):
Kamala Harris's record, she has a record for when she
ran for president that put her squarely at the far
left fringe of her party.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
That's what you run on.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
The problem is is that even as you bring up
these issues about her embracing the Green New Deal, want
guaranteed jobs for everyone, Her saying that fracking should be banned,
her saying that I should be rethought, her saying that
crossing the border shouldn't be a crime. I mean, all
of this ammunition, and he's talking about will she used
to identify as Indian.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
You guys, the word is not going to get out.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
And if this continues, the American voters out there who
don't listen to talk radio, and who don't watch television,
and who don't pay attention until they get their ballot
a week before and dial in and start looking at
YouTube and TikTok videos, those people are never going.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
To hear this.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
They're never going to hear it. So the discipline that
we saw between the the debate and the convention is over.
And if we don't get some discipline back to keep
the conversation. He did do this, by the way, in
the interview, Trump did talk about the fact that black
Americans are being hurt by the Biden economy. He talked

(26:17):
about that stuff. But did any of that stuff get
sound bited. Of course not, because that's the message that works. Now,
if he only gives them the message that works, what
choice do they have the problem is is that even
as he's delivering the message that works, he has to
go on this sinewiner.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
That is absolutely absurd. I mean just absurd.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
It just doesn't make any sense. This person said, where
can I see news stories that have been rewritten? Axios
went back and amended their Borderzar story from twenty nineteen.
They did it as they did, put an editor's note
at the bottom, but they amended their story. You can
look today on the blog about Reuters, not about the election,
not about comment But I have a story on the

(27:01):
blog today. You know what, I'll do it right after
I get back from this break. Keep it right here
on KOA. All right, kids, I'm gonna get to this
Reuter story in just a second, but I want to
answer two text messages because they're both really good questions.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
One of them.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
One of them says, I think you're assigning way too
much importance to this one off interview given to a
very liberal group of journalists. Here's the problem. I've never
seen the media just stop pretending that they weren't in
the bag for a candidate. They went from having a
wildly unpopular vice president to getting a roll out at

(27:34):
the hands of the media that honestly made I like,
if Kamala isn't the second coming of Jesus.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
I don't know who is, and that is not going
to change.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
So this one interview, if it becomes indicative of him
continuing to use these talking points that are just stupid.
They're just dumb. They're petty and small and typical Trump.
You want to know why I don't love the guy.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
This is it.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
But he's going to lose. Do you guys understand that
he could lose this election? So yeah, this is a
one off interview given to a hostile group, which is
the second point this texter said, So Trump is supposed
to do a Romney, bow his head, say I'm sorry
and leave. No, I don't really even have an issue
with him being combative. Back to the interviewer who was

(28:25):
combative with him. If you listen to the rest of
the interview, when he's given a question from either Aris
Faulkner or the other lady whose name I don't know,
he was not combative. He answered the questions. You cannot
continue to cow tell in front of these media types.
Let them know that you know you are going to
embarrass them. But embarrass them, embarrass them, not yourself. So yeah,

(28:50):
it's a rock and a hard place. I actually asked
my liberal friend, how, okay, how should Trump handle a
hostile crowd and they didn't have an answer. But I'm
like this, he talks to people that no Republicans have
talked to, and he's going to have to do it.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
You know, he's gonna have to do it if he's
going to continue or.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Make in roads in those communities that have been traditionally
ignored or really just conceded to Democrats. That's the problem.
They've been conceded. That's the problem. Let me give you
this story out of Reuters. When I say you don't
hate the media enough, this is exactly what I mean.
Reuters put out a story about the death of the
Hamas leader. Now he was a political he was the

(29:32):
wing of Hamas's quote political arm, but there is no difference.
There is no difference. Hamas and their form of Islam
controls every aspect of your life if you live in
the West Bank. Reuters put this headline up tough talk,
and Hannaye was seen as the more moderate face of Hamas.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
That was how they that was how they described a.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Man whose organization is a full on terrorist organization, the
more moderate face. They tried this too, and I fell
for it a long time ago when they were talking
about President Ahmadina jacket uh, they said, oh, he's the
moderate guys. No, no, they changed the headline, by the way,

(30:18):
who was Ismail Haniye? And why is his assassination a
blow to Hamas? Why?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Why? Why?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
That's Reuters. So there's, you know, no surprise that this
is happening if you've been paying attention for the past
twenty five years. But the blatancy of it is why
I find it concerning. The knowledge that a lot in
the left leaning media have that they will never be

(30:50):
held to account for what they're doing is frightening to me.
And they don't believe they're everything. They don't see any
issue with what they're doing. When they look at declining
readership for newspapers and how many newspapers are going under
and how many newsrooms have been decimated over the last
ten years, they don't ever do any introspection about maybe

(31:12):
it could be us because they like the power and
they like the access, and that's what they have now.
I mean, not with Joe Biden, because he's been gone
for forever. We're going to move away from this topic
in the next hour because we're going to talk to
a couple who has created a volunteer organization that helps
people firewise their property in their homes, and we've got
some great tips for how you can make your home

(31:34):
more resistant to fire if you find yourself in that situation.
We're going to do that next Keep it on KOA. Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to the second hour of the show. If you
guys listened to the show, you know that I am
constantly talking about fire danger and how to make sure
that your house is covered and that you've videotaped all
your stuff inside your house. But I got a great
email yesterday from a couple, Don and Tony Moore who

(31:57):
have created an all volunteer organization in their neighborhood to
help their neighbors and others learn how to mitigate fire risk,
and they're joining me on the phone now. Don, first
of all, welcome to the show. Both you and and Tony, well, thank.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
You very much. Man. You every day your show gets
better and better. Today is going to be the top
fill ever.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Is that because you're on it? Is that what's happening.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
You've got I've got the best guest stars today?

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Is that the absolutely man?

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Thank you for having us on today.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, I love what you guys are doing and I
want to find out. Tell me my audience what no
flow co fire mitigation posse is?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
All right, so no flow code just so we can
get through that. That's North Flora, Saint Colorado. However, that's
where we started out. We are footprints is going growing
much bigger than that. Our mission statement is basically to
assist private property owners within the wildland urban interface with
fire mitigation, fire awareness, and forced health. We want to

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make sure we implement the tenants and goal of the
National Wildland Fire Cohesive Strategy, and then we want to
make our community safer from danger, improve property appearance, and
have a little fun while we're doing it.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
So let's talk about let's do the financial benefits of
fire mitigation first, because on Tony sent me a bunch
of websites And what kind of insurance impact does it
have If you do a property assessment and you come
back and say, okay, this is this, They've done everything
they can do.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Does that have an impact on your homeowners insurance?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Short answers probably know. And the reason I'm stating that
is because you know, the insurance companies they're actuarials sit
in Hartford, Connecticut or Keyakuk, Iowa, and they look at
fire maps and Teller County is one of the highest
rated wildfire risk maps in the state. So of course
our insurance is going to be higher. What we're trying

(33:52):
to do, though, is connect various properties so we can
call them pods, so we can reduce the fuel load
within a neighborhood instead of just one single property.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
So we'll get a stuff. We'll go ahead, Tony.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
I just wanted to say currently, one of the reasons
that Colorado's are having such a hard time with their
insurance has to do with what's happened in the past
as well as the probability of something negative happening in
the future. Two big things have happened. The Marshall Fire
of twenty twenty one burned down eleven hundred beautiful, big,

(34:28):
nearly million dollar homes. Some of them were over a
million dollar homes in the Boulder area. That's a huge
hit for all of those insurers. Another thing is the
Helstrup storms we continue to get in Colorado. So many
roofs have needed replacing, and all of that comes back

(34:48):
on the residence of Colorado to pay for those losses
that the insurance companies are experiencing, and why a lot
of insurance companies are pulling out of the Colorado.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
That is something that we're all going to be dealing with,
and we talked about that a little bit earlier in
the show. Is that this is not something that happens
in a vacuum. When these fires happened, maybe it didn't
burn your house down, but you were going to feel
the effects of that as more insurance companies leave, as
it gets more expensive to get homeowners insurance and harder
to get homeowners insurance for some of these mountain properties.

(35:21):
Let me talk about some of the stuff that you
guys do, Like let's talk about ways to actually, you know,
harden someone's home against fire, Like what are some of
the basics where do you start?

Speaker 8 (35:33):
Well, we get our information from the National Fire Prevention
Agency and they did some forensic work in twenty twenty
one after the Marshall fire, and that's where a lot
of this knowledge comes from. Don can tell you some
specifics so.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
That home agnition zone which I'm sure we've all heard about.
If not, I know there's websites out there we go look.
Zone one is that zero to five feet from the structure,
and it's critical there that people think, oh my god,
look at the size of that flame that's coming. That's
really not the issue which the studies have shown for
your home. It's all of the embers, those fire brands

(36:10):
that at your house twenty to thirty minutes before that
flame front gets there, and if you've evacuated your house,
they're going to sit on those Pauly erithink patio cushions
which are going to catch fire with their right They're
going to catch the firewood that you have stored under
your wooden deck. They're going to catch the debris and
your gutters, and then catch your face aboard and soffits

(36:31):
on fire. So within that zone one, there's a lot
that can be done well in advance before we even
talk about a wildfire season.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I was just talking to one of my favorite clients,
Jimmy Keyes at Gutter Helmet, and we were talking about
a whole bunch of different things, and we talked about
fire risk and he's like, oh my gosh, that's one
of the biggest things here in Colorado because clawed gutters.
When you have those gutter systems that just kept my
I had an old one that just caught pine needles.
Those are basically like little wicks in your gutters, right,

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They're just waiting for an ember to drop in there.
And I've never really thought about it before. I mean,
I love guttter helmet, but that's not why I bought it.
But you don't necessarily think about those things that you
just listed off, couch cushions, you know, things of that nature. Okay,
so we've done the first zone one of that. What
happens out and I'm assuming they want no trees in that.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Area, right, Well they California's pass a law that says
no vegetation in zone one.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Okay, wow, so not even like any shrubbery or anything.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Correct. What science is showing though, Hey, if you have vegetation,
let's just say you have that tree you planted with
your grandfather fifty years ago, and that's a family heirloom tree,
right right. Let's make it part of the house then
and go five feet from the tree and not have
other things.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
So it's not a heart, yeah, not a hard and
fast fougle when you move into zone two, which is
the six feet to thirty feet. What they're saying there is, okay,
you can have a little more vegetation. But science are
showing not in various fires. What they've showed is ninety
percent of structures can be saved if you have discontinuous

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fuel within the sixty feet of your structure. Okay, so
if we have a surface fire, and we know that
surface fires are a little bit easier to maintain, I
use the term easy relatively versus a crowning fire. But
if there's a fuel break within that first sixty feet
of your home that can just drop the fuel down,
you're much better off. And therefore you just got to

(38:32):
worry about some embers so that next thirty feet you
can have some vegetation.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
One of the things we've been doing with our neighbors
out here in Florescent is when we clean up their properties,
we make them a nice curvy line that like a
little walking path around their two acre property or three
acre property. That what that actually is is a fuel break,
so that a ground fire stops when it gets to

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that little walking path.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
That makes a lot of sense. This question is a
good one.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
From the text line, Mandy, ask them if they recommend
hoa fences not be made of wood. Black forest fire
a few years ago had fire spread by fences to homes.
Is there a recommendation about fencing.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Here's what they say about that. We can go back
to the if you get a chance to look at
the aerial view of the boulder at Marshall fire right
that fire went right down that wood fence to the
next house. What they're saying is just put a metal
brake or a metal gate between the wood fence and
your house, or put some flashing on the side of
your house, because that will break that fire.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
Or even when you before you leave your house to
be evacuated, open the gate.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
For sure.

Speaker 8 (39:42):
A line of wood directly from your house to the
neighbor is a great way for you to catch your
house on fire.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
So let's move now, what is beyond zone two? Do
we have zone three?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I mean, because I don't know if my house is
big enough to have a zone three, if my yard
is big enough to have a zone three.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
So zone three is that thirty to one hundred feet
So a lot of the houses out here in rural
where we are Teller County have acreage right, and so
within that next one hundred feet, what they're saying is, hey,
let's send the trees. Let's make sure the drip line
or the branches between your trees are fifteen to eighteen
feet apart, so when a fire does climb a tree,

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you have less likelihood of it becoming a crowning fire.
And then we because what we've done, we've added zones four,
which is to your property line. And many of the
experiments that have done, including the Northwest Territories crown fire experiment,
within one hundred to two hundred feet of this large
firefront flame, it's not going to catch your house on fire.

(40:44):
Even if it's made of wood. It will chart and
there might be some point, but that is moving so
fast it will not stay on your structure long enough.
So if you've cleared out to two hundred feet, we
don't mean clear cutting, we mean healthy forest fuels to
your house, you you're going to be concerned about the wildfire.

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And many one of the questions we asked our residents
when we go to talk to them, what's your concern
save your house, save your forest, or both because both
of them or all three of them have different prescriptions.
You can save your house and be surrounded by char
The question is do you want to see.

Speaker 9 (41:23):
Me?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (41:23):
So a dear friend of ours their house burned and
the Hayman fire the fire. Excuse me by back that
up there. It burned up to their house and the
Hayman fire. Their house was saved by the firefighters. She
was real excited and happy about that for a while,
but after three years of driving through the charge and

(41:44):
happened to smell all that burn she just couldn't take it.
So she finally had to sell her house at a
tremendous loss due to the fire around her. So, you know,
saving your forest is kind of a big deal. If
what the reason you live in Colorado is the trees
and the beauty.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Do you guys have any connections or lists for products?
Because someone's asking about Rhinoshield, the heavy duty paint coating
for homes. Do you have lists available anywhere that kind
of gives you best practices, Like if you have to
get a new roof, should you put a concrete tile
roof on? If you have to repaint, is there a
better is there better things to do? Now? Is that available?

(42:24):
Anywhere as people start to make updates to their homes.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Correct it's on our website. I would say that composite shingles,
of all the tests they've done, a rated composite shingles
are perfectly fine in a wildfire. No need to go
all the way to met unless you want to. Some
of the things that I would recommend if people are
doing some remodeling is making sure that they move to
sorry tempered glass as opposed to plate glass, because glass

(42:50):
can heat on the facing glass, but the glass that's
still in the sash will not heat, and therefore that
plate glass will fract. Sure, those shards are big shards,
they'll drop, and now you have a giant hole in
your window for embers to fly in. Right, And then
I would say rhinoshield and there's five or cement board.

(43:14):
All those things can certainly.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Help, okay.

Speaker 8 (43:19):
On that window, especially if you can't afford to replace
all your windows, because tempered glass can be really expensive.
Most of the time our fires come from the west
because that's the prevailing wind. At least maybe replace the
west facing windows with the tempered glass.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Okay, So if we've got people listening right now, maybe
they are concerned. They haven't done anything, and this weekend
they're going to go out and do some stuff. So
we're going to start in that five feet zone. Do
they need to clear out all the vegetation. I mean,
that's the thing I'm because there's a lot of decorative
stuff around houses here in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Again, what we've seen, what we've learned and education is
mulch commences burning in about fifteen seconds when an ember
lands on it. Wood burning mulch, scrape it away right.
Put in rock. Make sure your foundation is clear. And

(44:17):
another thing, if you think you have a stucco house
and you're safe, reach under that very bottom by your
foundation and see if you have an undercap or a
cap on the bottom of that stuccle because right behind
the stucco as wood. A lot of stucco homes have
burned from the inside out because they don't have that
protection on the bottom.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Wow. I actually just got this text message, Hey Mandy,
I work at the Marshall fire area with Exfinity doing
all the infrastructure there for Xfinity services. One thing I
did learn, as many of those homes did not burn down,
but they imploded from within from the intense heat.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Yep, radiant heat. Well, preheat that house and then something
happens they can go in a hurry.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Well, how can people become a part of the no
flow co fire mitigation posse or maybe start one in
their neighborhood. Do you guys have a plan for that?
A blueprint? How could people can do that?

Speaker 4 (45:15):
So that is our plan when we met with the
governor Governor Polis, we wanted to have no flow cost
factors throughout the state and then have them competing with
each other for the I would call it the Governor's
Trophy for fire mitigation. So we've already, I guess, invented
the wheel, so to speak. We've created a community, and

(45:38):
I think I need to make sure I state this.
We're made up of truly rocket scientists and arborists and
retired school teachers and retired builders. We're pro choice, pro life,
we're liberal, we're conservative, were Baptist or Catholic for atheists.
We've truly created a community for a common cause because

(45:58):
we reside in this state. So I would have them
reach out to us through our noflow Co website. We're
doing a few presentations around the state later in the fall.
Come join us and stay tuned.

Speaker 8 (46:12):
We're happy to hold anyone's hand and walk them through
the procedure to kind of get something going in the neighborhood.
We started with just Don and I and the very
first time we reached out to the neighborhood, it was
five people, and it's grown constantly since then. We're just
under six hundred people in the organization now here in
Taller County.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
That's amazing. How did you guys decide to do this?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I mean, it's one thing to say we're going to
take care of our own property, but when did you
look at each other and say we need to create
an organization of volunteers to take this all over the state.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
When did that happen?

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Well? I always say this. I am a product of
my mother and father, and they said, you'll never be bored,
go do something. So I got a lot of nervous enters,
got a lot of nervous energy for that. And then
we would attend meetings and we came up with the
axiom where meetings where minutes are kept and hours are lost.
A lot of people sat around and talked about fire mitigation,

(47:06):
but no one was picking up sticks. So then we
started just with helping the elderly or the infirm, those
that wanted to stay in their home but couldn't do
the work. People would come on our property and say,
why does your property look like a park. We'd like that,
So we kind of saw the need for it, so
we just thought we'd start in our neighborhood and it
just took off from there.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Oh that's fantastic, Tony and Don Moore, I really appreciate
your time. Today, I put a link to the NOFLOWC
dot org website and it is exactly like it sounds.
Stands for North Florence Colorado dot org, so no flow
code dot org.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
And I put a link on the blog today.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Great information on this, I mean, even what kind of
trees to plant in your property if you want to
add some trees like the ones that are most fire resistant,
the ones that give you the biggest problems, that kind
of thing. Great information. You guys are doing a great job,
and I hope that I bet you that you have
absolutely gotten some new supporters from this interview. Somebody just asked,

(48:05):
how can contractors get involved?

Speaker 4 (48:09):
That's a great question. We'd love them to come and
just put their advertising sign on one of our project
days right and come out and continue to educate us.
That's what we're all about, to educating the public. And
if a contractor knows something about the building of a
home that can help the client at their home. Hearting
and Zone one.

Speaker 8 (48:29):
Absolutely and maybe I was with a class in Castle
Rock a couple of years ago called the ACEIF Assessing
Structure Agnission Potential Class and learned so much it blew
my mind so much. It's where a lot of our
information comes from. Because I feel like that class is
so important. I've been working with the Colorado Forestry people

(48:53):
along with the Fire Adapted Colorado people, and on October
tenth and eleven, a class that's specially designed for contractors,
fire professionals, for policymakers, landscapers will be held at the
Divide fire station here in our area. If they reach

(49:14):
out to us on our contact information is at Noflowcode
dot org. I'll be happy to get them. The information
class usually costs several hundred dollars a day. Because of
all of us pulling together, it's going to be absolutely
free in Divide this year.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Oh that's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Here's a fun fact, guys, I actually honeymoon in Divide, Colorado.
We rented a house on VRBO that is now it's
no longer a short term rental. Now someone lives there
and it was wonderful. We came in February. There was
like four feet of snow on the ground. It was
amazing and we had the best time. And we just
started from there and went all over Colorado on our honeymoon.

(49:52):
But that's where we stayed. And I tell people that
they're like, where did you stay in Divide?

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
It was a lovely short term rental. So I have
very memories of Divide, Colorado.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
All right, So I need you, Chuck and the family
to come back. I know Chuck just celebrated his birthday.
So did you come to Floris and we'll put you up.
Come to one of our projects, do a live broadcast,
and we can do all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
I would love to come down there for one of
your projects. I don't know about the live broadcast. Logistically,
the forest is not the best place to broadcast. That
being said, I'd love to come down and see how
you guys do what you do. So let me know
and get let's get you back on before October Tony
to remind people about this event for contractors, because I
think that's really great, especially that they can do it

(50:34):
for free. Guys, thank you so much. You've given us
great information. Your website's fantastic. Thank you for all that
you're doing on this volunteer basis, and I hope lots
of people join you in this absolutely.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
All right, thanks Don and Tony Moore. There with no
flowco dot org. There's tons of information there. So in
front of my house, I have a juniper. It's ugly,
it's old, it's overgrown. I hate it. You know what
I might do, like not this weekend, because I got

(51:08):
a bunch of family coming to town this weekend. I
am going to enjoy ripping that juniper out in the
name of fire safety. I have this weird thing about
getting rid of plants. It's the same as getting rid
of cookbooks, Like I can't it's so hard, so hard.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
So it's the same with plants. So yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yes. Somebody just said, OMG, Highland Lakes. I don't know
what that is, so I don't know.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
I do not know.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
This person said Mandy, I work in Black Forest Monument area,
don't live there, and Unfortunately, it's a forest fire waiting
to happen. People refuse to cut down trees because they
love the trees, which of course is understandable, but it's
the same problem with our national forest. Decades of no
management is a problem and is causing more devastating fires.
I actually think that the the problem is that we

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have over controlled forest fires, or we haven't done enough
controlled burning, so we just have so much kindling there,
we have so much fuel for these fires, and now
we kind of have to deal with the repercussions of
our own choices. Now. I think there's a bigger implication
inclination to let these fires not burn out, but burn

(52:24):
as much fuel as they can before they contain them
while trying to keep them away from structures. It's just
it's crazy, this person said Mandy. It's refreshing to hear
people speak about self regulation instead of state mandated force compliance.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
I fully expect state mandated.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Force compliance to become be coming down the pike very
very soon, and I'll explain why I feel this way
when we get back. Keep it right here on KOA,
all right, right now, as in happening this minute, the
prisoner exchange that is going to release Wall Street Journal
reporter Evan Gerskovich from Russia. Custody is happening right now,

(53:03):
and sixteen Russian prisoners are part of this swap. I
wish there was an easy way. Hello Mark, Oh, hang on,
that's me. That's me a rod That was my computer.
Sorry about that. I'm like, why am I youaring? Bride?

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Gilmade anyway?

Speaker 7 (53:20):
So.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gerskovich, he was imprisoned in
Russia for over sixteen months, made a bold proposal before
his release in a prisoner swap on Thursday, asking whether
he could interview Russian President Vladimir Putin after being freed.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
That took stones the size of cantelopes.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Gerskovich made the request while filling out a mandated official
request for presidential clemency that was addressed to Putin before
his release. The last line submitted a proposal of his
own after his release.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Would Putin be willing to sit down for an interview?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
I'm not sure I would have gone there. I just
I don't know that that is something I would have done.
But good news. I'm sure that his family is incredibly
excited to have him home, along with the other folks
that were part of this. So that's a win for
the Biden administration. I mean, you got to give it
to him. It's finally It was sixteen months that it

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took to get him back, but he's finally back. I
guess that's something a big loss for the Biden administration.
The opposite of a big win is that they have
now reached a deal with nine to eleven terrorists. Now,
I saw this story this morning and the first thing

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that went through my mind is what year is it?
How in the world, how these people never never face
trial for what they did? And now the Biden administration
has cut a deal for Khaleque Shek Khaleid Sheik Mohammed,
who I believe is still in Gipmo. He's the alleged

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architect of the nine to eleven attacks. The deals of
the deal of this the details of the deal have
not been fully released, but the death penalty is off
the table, and I find that shocking. I find it
shocking that they haven't been tried yet. I find it
shocking that it is twenty twenty four. We're more than
halfway through twenty twenty four, and these people have just

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been sitting in Gimo waiting for trial. That's terrible, and
I'm sure it's because a bunch of eggheads decided that,
you know, the evidence was pretty tenuous and we're not sure.
If you can't prove it, then do you even know
you have the right guy. I mean, you've had twenty
some odd years to work on this. So a lot

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of Republican lawmakers are very very unhappy about this. So that's,
in my mind a Biden loss, although he'll be able
to say, just like you said about Afghanistan, we ended
the war in Afghanistan. Yeah, I just stop. When you
stop fighting, you essentially do end the war. But you
didn't say win the war, did you?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Not?

Speaker 3 (56:07):
At all? Now, we got a bunch of stuff on
the blog that is locally oriented, including this. Tina Peter's
trial started yesterday, and her defense seems to be I
was doing God's work. Maybe not God, but I was
doing I was trying to do the right thing. Now,
if Tina Peters were a Democrat like Hillary Clinton, she

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would not be held responsible because of her intent. Her
intent was never to you know, deceive, Her intent was
just to do the right thing. But it's not. She's not,
so she is going to be in big fat trouble.
Another story I want to bring really quickly. I got
a bunch of stories on the blog, and I'm determined
to get through as many of them as I can.

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This one is not surprising the least bit, especially if
you pay your homeowners insurance and things like that. CNBC
man the wrong link there. Let me find this Hang
on one second, No, I didn't. CNBC just did a
list of the ten most expensive states to live in

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and guess where we are. Yeah, we're tied for fifth.
Goes like this, the top ten or the bottom ten,
I guess for most expensive states. This is not a thing.
You want to be number one in number ten Utah.
I did not see that coming. Their cost of living
score is sixteen out of fifty points.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
They got a D plus. And you know what cracks
me up about this?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
They don't do a half gallon of milk anymore, or
a gallon of milk. Remember when it was a gallon
of milk. Now it's a half gallon of almond milk.
That's the standard. Even though I don't think, Hey, Rod,
see how many people drink milk versus how many people
drink almond milk? I'd love to know, because that's their thing.

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Uh Utah is tied with with Florida, they got twelve
out of fifty points, another D minus, and then they're
also tied with New York. New York got a D
minus in their cost of living score. A lot of
that has to do with homeowners insurance and housing costs.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
A lot of this has to do with that nine
Rhode Island.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Rhode Island. You would never suspect Rhode Island would have
the nerve to be on this list. No way. They
got a D minus on their cost of living score,
and they're tied with Washington State, who also got a
D minus twelve out of fifty, and tied with Colorado.
Colorado got an F on the cost of living scale

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ten out of fifty points.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
So you just want to know about preference? Yeah, the
entire country?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
What drinks more? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (58:49):
Well, according to a twenty twenty four Yeah who News
you go poll, fifty four percent of US adults prefer
almond milk, thirty two percent prefer whole milk, and twenty
two percent prefer two percent cow's milk.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Okay, then there you go. I love almond milk. I
only do almond milk.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
We have all kinds of dairy. We have a whole
swath of drinkable dairy like products. Right now, I have
my heavy cream for my coffee one tablespoon or actually
one teaspoon in each cup, and then I have regular
milk because Chuck likes it, and then we have almond milk,
and then we have some oat milk too.

Speaker 7 (59:21):
Which I can't tell you the last time I knowingly
drink anything other than almond milk.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Sometimes with like I just prefer now, like a brownie.
Almond milk doesn't have the same body in your mouth, right,
it doesn't have the same mouth feel. I don't realize
full fat dairy.

Speaker 7 (59:37):
I don't think I tell the difference too much anymore.
I think now it probably would be anything other than
almond would probably be too sweet for me, similar to
like anything other than diet ice cream.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Do you drink you do unsweetened almond milk, then yes, yes, Okay,
so if you do unsweet and alemon milk, then yeah,
would see that because I never think milk tastes sweet
at all.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
Yeah, milk is like pretty dang sweet now for me.
Just like I said, anything other than other than like
like ice cream. I said ice cream. Anything other than
diet ice cream is too much.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
We're also tied with Montana.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
By the way, I'll give you the leaders when we
get back, but again, this isn't the poll you want
to be on top of.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
I'll do that right after this on Kowa.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
All right, we're back, and I'm going to give you
the top three most expensive places to live. But then
I have to immediately go to the text line. I
had no idea. You guys had so many feelings about
almond milk. Okay, I had no clue. We're going to
get to that top three most expensive states to live
in Hawaii, of course, because everything has to be shipped
in except pineapple. And then we have Massachusetts, and then

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we have California. Every state except Montana, where the prices
have been driven up by Californians moving there, so they
have a huge housing affordability crisis. Every other state except
Florida on this list is run by Democrats. Florida is
obviously run by Republicans, but Florida the same issues we

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have here with home owners insurance and things of that nature.
It's not the affordable place it was when I grew
up there. Let's talk about almond milk for a second.
A Rod, I had no idea. The hate is strong
on the text line, not one single almond milk.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Supporter, ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
A dozen or so text messages. They're all of this milk.
Almond milk is not milk.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
It is nut juice. It is nut juice.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
There's a point like, you can't milk a almond, there's
no there's nothing to you know, squeeze there.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
So weird milk out. The tastes like milk to me.
So now, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
Think it tastes like milk. I think it tastes like
a milk like product.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
I think it tastes like milk.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
What do you think that, nest Quick or do you
think that you who tastes like chocolate milk?

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
No, it's chocolate water. You who is chocolate water. It
is the non dairy version of chocolate milk. It doesn't
taste remotely like chocolate milk. So no, I don't think
almond milk tastes like regular milk. But I still like it.
I use it in my protein shakes. It's very good.
This person makes this point, though, A Rod, this is
a good one for people who care. One cup of

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almond milk has one protein gram. Cow's milk has eight grams.
That's why I went back to cow's milk, as the
older one gets, the more protein you need. I'm not
an everyday meat or fish consumer, so it matters to me. Also,
research doesn't seem to indicate there's a statistically significant risk
to obtaining cancer from cow milk.

Speaker 7 (01:02:25):
Yeah, I don't go to I don't go to almond
milk for I mean, I don't not go to ali
milk for the protein issue.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I get protein.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Almond milk is for douche bubbles man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
But yeah, people love telling people what kind of milk
they drink, especially if it isn't dairy A lot of it.
It's not milk, it's nut juice, whole milk or goat milk. No,
we got two.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Almond milk is awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
I didn't know I would like it, but now I
love more calcium, no sugar, low calorie.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
There you go, there you go. But a lot of
you are very strong feelings about this.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
A lot of you are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I wouldn't drink almond milk ever, give me real milk
or give me death. That's a little bit stronger than
I would go almond milk, yawn a liberal badge like masks,
you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
One of the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Reasons I have almond milk is because if I do
too much dairy, then that's not my guts.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Don't prefer that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
They're like, you know, you're kinda past the wild and free.
I can have all the dairy I want stage of life, Mandy.
So I like the option. So coconut milk is the best,
says this texter. I do not like coconut milk. I
don't like coconuts. I don't like it's very very fatty,
good fat, but very very fatty, way more fatty than

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almond milk and high chloric. And it tastes like coconuts
to me. So that's a non starter. Not gonna do it, Mandy.
He wrote it tastes like milk, except he says he
can't drink drink milk because it's too sweet.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Paradox talking about you, a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Rod, Almond milk is ninety eight percent water, and that
is accurate, and water are good for you. Oat milk
is far.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Better than almond milk. Raw cow milk is great too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Oat milk. My issue with oat milk is it has
way more sugar in it. It has a lot of
sugar in it because oats have sugar in them, and
when you eat them as oatmeal, you are getting the
fiber to sort of mitigate that blast of sugar. But
oat milk just takes the sugar out and you have
sugary water. Now that is oat milk. The only reason

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I have oat milk is because my kids are coming
this weekend and that's what they using their coffee.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Show me a nipple on an almond this text, or ask.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
A rod, But why does it matter?

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Nipple end of the almond?

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
You want to go down the list of all the
things we eat and where they come from.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Text, I know where my food comes from.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Well, a lot of people don't like to think about
those things. We can go down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
I know where my food comes from, and I perfectly
fine with it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
Well, a lot of people, I don't think want to
know where some of their stuff come from.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
So I'm just saying, don't go down that rabbit hole.
Don't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Mandy is Velvita cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
No, it is a processed cheese food product, and God
love velvita. See that's one of those things where I
know that velvita is a little block of chemicals, but
they are delicious block of chemicals.

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
Also, I've just been informed my cousins are almond farm
are farmers?

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Oh really? Well, there you go the family, Yeah, there
you go, there you go. Okay, the great almond milk
debate has been settled. Oh one more a rod hamas
loves almond milk.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Stop stop? What's wrong with you? Stop?

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
As a certified nutritionist?

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
No almond milk? What certified nutritionists? We have to get
to the bottom of this. For the person who said
raw hal milk is great too, I've mentioned on the show.
I've mentioned on the show about the time that I
did a raw milk story in Kentucky because I wanted
to make a joke about the quote white market, right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
I just wanted to do the joke. And all of these.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Raw milk people started coming out of the woodwork and
calling me, and it was crazy. For three hours we
talked about raw milk and they brought me some and
I was a little bit read. But it tastes like
ice cream, just the regular milk. It's so much better.
I just can't get the past the fact that I
might die drinking it. So you know, it's one of
those things. When we get back. Uh, we've got to

(01:06:14):
talk about Lauren Bobert's opponent is drowning in cash. That's
coming up next.

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Connell sad thing. The two minute drill at two.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Hey, we're gonna go with too minute warnings.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Rapid fire stories of the day that we don't have
more time for play. This will take longer than two minutes.
Here's Mandy Well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I'm not here to tell you I told you so,
but I told you so. Democratic congressional candidate Tricia Calvareesi
has raised more than seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
in the five weeks since winning the nomination to challenge
Republican US or A US Congresswoman Lauren Bobert in Colorado's
fourth congressional district. In the five week stretch from the

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June twenty fifth primary to July thirty first, the first
time candidate from Highland's ranch received thirty two thousand contributions
from twenty four thousand unique donors, for an average donation
of twenty three bucks. Ninety nine percent of our donations
were under a ninety nine percent were under two hundred dollars.
How does the money compare with Bobert's Calvareesi entered August

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with an estimated three hundred and eighty.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Thousand dollars cash on hand.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Bobert had just under five hundred and thirty thousand in
the bank on June thirtieth, that according to the Republican's
second quarter report.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
Now, I'm not going to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Sit here and say that you know this is Lauren
Bo's going to lose, because this district is still extremely
extremely Republican. But this is what I knew was going
to happen. They're not necessarily supporting Trisha, although I find
her very She's very nice. I chatted with her at
the Old Woman's thing, Very very nice woman. This is
all people who hate Lauren Bobert and want her out.
So this race could be more interesting than the last time.

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But I still think that Lauren Bobert wins it, just
because the way the district is drawn next door toll
it too more drama. I'm so sick of talking about
the Colorado Republican Party and the garbage around that. Now
we have El Paso County Republican Vice Chair Todd Watkins
and Jefferson County Republican Chair Nancy Palazzi filing a motion

(01:08:42):
Tuesday asking Judge Thomas Henderson to reconsider the temporary restraining
order he issued last Friday. In their motion, apparently they
pointed out many, many, many of the misrepresentations and inaccuracies
filed by Williams and the state GOP.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
We'll find out what goes on. I honestly, I just
I don't even know what to do with these people.
I just don't next story to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
I'm gonna drill it too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
After yesterday, I'm saddened to report that President Maduro of
Venezuela is crushing descent right now in Venezuela. He still
has security forces on his side, and he's asking people
to snitch on their neighbors who dispute the claim that
he won, even though it is a lie. More than
a thousand people have been arrested, sixteen have been killed

(01:09:33):
in those mass protests. And Maduro's not going anywhere without
a fight. Now. The interesting thing about that is, imagine,
just imagine if the Venezuelan people had guns.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
But they don't because back in twenty twelve, in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Order to curb crime, the Venezuelan people were disarmed, so
they don't have any weapons to fight with. They don't
have any way to fight back against a totalitarian regime
that is now lying about had an election to stay
in power. Just wanted to point those two things out.
You know, let's talk about some Olympics right now. You Hey,

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we just became the first country to win three thousand
medals in the modern Olympics. Yeah, the first country to
ever do so. We had two thousand, nine hundred and
seventy five when we started these games, and we won
our three thousandths after Team USA earned its twenty six medal,
and there are more medals to come, and one of

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those people that is going to be winning those medals
is the USA's Katie Ludeki. She won gold in the
fifteen hundred meter freestyle, claiming record tying twelfth Olympic medal
in women swimming. She is not done swimming though, so
by the end of this Olympics. She could be the
most decorated female swimmer in history, and I think that
is super super cool. Now, I don't have a story

(01:10:55):
about the boxing that happened. We're a dude or someone
who genetic gender test or not clear on what that is.
They failed a genetic gender test, was allowed to punch
a woman in the face. So now, wife, women, you
know punching women is an Olympic sport. The woman in
question was the Italian boxer. She quit after forty six
seconds and said she had never been punched that hard

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in her life.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
So that's your Olympic update.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Last story is too women, drill it too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
I mentioned the new eight thousand person outdoor venue called
Ford Amphitheater in Colorado Springs is set to open. They
have released their lineup, and if you are of my age,
you are gonna want to buy tickets to some of
these shows because they have our music. Dare I say,
there's a bunch of stuff that I'm already planning on
going to see. The venue looks like it's gonna beautiful.

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And to the guy who lives near it, who's already
very unhappy about the noise in the traffic, which I
totally get. I'm sorry, but I'm coming down there and
I'm gonna have a good time at the Ford Amphitheater.

Speaker 7 (01:11:54):
This is for you that has a kajillion dollar seats
you can buy, like lifetime seats or whatever it is
is that I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I don't know if that's part of it. It's an
outdoor venue. It's like I souped up bigger version of Fiddlers.
It looks like. So maybe there's where the people like
getting buy in to get the thing built. But the
fact that it's done in a year, that's pretty impressive. Mandy,
Why is no one talking about Blueprint Colorado and the
Democrat running against Bobert or when talking about Adam Frish?

(01:12:22):
Oh dang it, this just updated and in CD three.
You guys, how many times have I mentioned the damn
book The Blueprint. I've talked about it on the show
so many times. I've sent links to people to buy it.
So please don't come at me like that. I've talked
about that book so many times. It should be required
reading for everyone in the Republican Party. And I bet

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Dave Williams has never cracked it, just saying throwing that
out there. Hey, Rod, if you were not in love
and married to your beautiful wife, what is the oldest
age that you would date?

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
Cause you're thirty, So how old would you get?

Speaker 8 (01:13:00):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
Really not much older?

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
Thirty five?

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
Oh, I right around the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Age you wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
So why is there any particular reason?

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Just everything matches up better I think now and just
in life, just you know, goals, where you're at, you know,
kids obviously, Yeah, yeah, everything that's gotta yeah, you gotta
be right around the same age for me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Well, I have a story and we're gonna get into
it in the next segment. Apparently younger men are now
dating older women and vice versa. You know what's funny
is yeah, cougar alert for sure. And we all know
about like the stereotypical cougar, right, the woman on the
prow kind of new divorce at the time. Yeah, and
you guys, that's such a cliche. But as a fifty

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five year old woman who has seen women who got
married right out of college, they had their kids, their
kids were grown, when the kids left, they were like,
this marriage sucks, I'm leaving. They get divorced and they
are partying like they are twenty one years old, and
this is what I did that when I was twenty one,
So I know what I'm looking at. But yeah, it's
a little bit of a cliche. But is it as

(01:14:07):
judt Are we as judge about younger men dating older
women as we can be about men dating younger women,
even though that's far more normal in our society? Is
it weirder? Cause I gotta tell you, like, Okay, so
I'm fifty five and my son is thirty two.

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
I cannot imagine dating someone who is thirty two.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
What do you talk about?

Speaker 8 (01:14:29):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
What? What kind of discodony? You don't even share the
same pop culture. I don't want to have to explain
every Seinfeld reference, you know. That's for me. The hardest
part is not being a so to your point a rot,
I think you're right, the more you have in common,
the better off you are.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
But Chuck is five years ahead of me. He's five
years older than I am.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
So you know, I get some of his culture, he
gets some of mine, but we don't have significant overlap.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
In some significant ways, like music.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
We'll talk about this when we get back, all right,
you guys, we're talking about this story. I just find
super interesting about how now. A recent IPSOS poll found
that many American adults have engaged in age gap dating,
that is, they've previously dated someone with an age difference
of ten plus years. It also found that many such
relationships are perfectly socially acceptable, and in spite of what

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the aforementioned films suggest, age gap relationships occur between not
just boomers or gen X women and younger men. They
also occur between gen Z men and millennial women and
are more common than many might think. I want to
ask this question of our texters. You can text us
at five six six nine zero and you can text

(01:15:38):
us this question, are you in or have you been
in an age gap relationship?

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
If so, how big was the gap? And are you
still together?

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Because I don't know any I have one high school
friend that I did not stay close with after high school,
but we're friends on Facebook and she seems to be
do a much older man and they've been married for
a very long time. But outside of that, all of
the people that I know that have had big age

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gap relationships, none of them lasted. And I'm not saying
it doesn't happen, because it does obviously, but just personal
like the scorecard in my life is one in like fifteen,
you know, so I'm curious about that. A couple of
you weighing in. I am seventy one and told I

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look at the most at sixty. Last five years, only
thirties have asked me out. Wait a minute, dag nabit.
I hate it when this updates in the middle. Only
thirties have asked me out, always said no, not interested,
but also going to support their bad habits. So that's

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kind of I'm thirty six, my wife is forty seven,
and I absolutely love and adore her. The difference in
age doesn't affect us at all, and I think for
a long time, you don't feel the difference in age
until you start to get older. I think, because getting
older is no joke, you know, it is not for
the faint of heart or the week. And when you

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start to get older, I think maybe then you might
feel the impact. But at that point you've got decades invested,
so I'm guessing you would probably stick it out.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
I don't know, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
I'm thirty nine and my wife is fifty one, been
together since twenty three and thirty five, and we're solid
as ever. That's fantastic. That makes me happy. My wife
and I've been together for thirty seven years. I'm seventy
five and she's sixty one. Cradle robber, look at you.
I met her when she was twenty three and I
was thirty eight. We dated for twelve years until she

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became old enough for me to marry.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
Ha ha, that's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
I was twenty and hooked up with a lady fifty
five and can coun you scandalous texter. I'm fifty seven
and she is seventy. We've been together for over twenty years.
Instead of robbing the cradle, now they're robbing the Craftmatic
adjustable bad go See, you have to be a certain
age to get that joke. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

(01:18:10):
Somebody asked on the text line. It's already scrolled down yet,
Oh here it is. Man, if you weren't married to Chuck,
how old would you date somebody? Or how young would
you date somebody? Good question?

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
If anything happens to Chuck, I just think I'm off
the market. It just seems exhausting at this point in
my life. I's just like another thing that I would
have to manage. Dealt with Chuck. We have a great partnership,
but the whole like getting to know you and helping
you understand me and not hate me at the end
of that, I mean, that's just that seems like a lot.

(01:18:42):
But if I had to choose, I would probably try
to date someone my age or five years younger in
that span, because, like I said, getting old is not
for the faint of heart. But I would consider dating
someone who was in really great health and great shape
if they were a little bit older.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
I don't know, I never thought about it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
You.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
First of all, do you Does anybody ever really think
of themselves as like, yeah, I'm fifty five, What what
is that? I mean, who says that? Who is that?

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
That's not me?

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
I'm still young and hip and cool as long as
it's before nine o'clock in the night, you know. I
it's it's just a bizarre thing. So you don't really
I guess you don't really think about that. And I
think at some point you lose a sense of your
level of hotness in the world. Like when you're young,
you have pretty good grasp of where you are on
the hotness scale, but as you get older, you're like

(01:19:39):
am I am I still hot for my age and
is that a compliment? I you know, there's a lot
of sorting to go going through this and that welcome
to that window into the world of Mandy's head.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
You really didn't want to do that. I got a
lot of good texts on this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
We'll be right back with U Cradle Robbers right after
the news trafficking weather. All right, we are back, Okay.
I had no idea this topic would bring out the
best text messages of any topic in the history of topics,
but here we are. So a new study has shown
that younger men are now dating older women with some regularity.
And I asked the question because anecdotally, everyone I know

(01:20:15):
that's had a significant age difference, and I'm counting like
fifteen years or more. For me, that's more significant. They've
not lasted, right. I know one couple that's been married
for like forty years and he looks to be about
fifteen years older than she is. But all that being said,
my eyes have been opened because so many people on
the text line have been talking about their relationships. This

(01:20:37):
is my favorite and made me burst out laughing. It
just says I'm seventy one, My cutoff would be twenty two.
I know it could be fatal, but if she dies,
she dies. Oh man, that's a that's very funny. But
a lot of you are saying, Mandy. My dad was

(01:20:59):
twenty years old when his wife and my mom was born.
They were married when he was forty, and they were
married for thirty nine years before he died. See.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
I love that story.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
I love that. When I was in my thirties, I
used to go to Cherry Creek and cougar hunt like
it was going out of style. And I know that
you could find them there. I've seen them in the
wild in Cherry Creek. I mean it's wild there. As
a sixty two year old male, I would love to
hook up with a fifty five year old woman in Cancun.

(01:21:30):
There you go, sir, There you go. I got married
in seventy three. I was eighteen and he was thirty.
We were married for thirty seven years. We divorced in
two thousand and nine.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
My choice.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
It was like having a roommate, best friend, got back
with first love from the late sixties. Married now for
over thirteen years. Well good for you, Mandy. My husband
was ten years older. We were married for twenty five years.
He's gone now the young me would not do it again. Mandy,
I was a forty one year old male that dated

(01:22:00):
a twenty two year old female. At first, it was
just two people enjoying each other's company. We tried to date,
but eventually split. She was full of life and wanted
to live it. I was in a much different place
in life. We are still friends, you know. I think
that's the best kind of outcome, you know what I mean.
Like Chuck's second wife was Mary, or was much of
fifteen years younger than he was, and he says they

(01:22:23):
got married because they both during that marriage moved themselves
and their lives forward significantly, but it was never really
going to last forever. And they're still good friends. I mean,
you know, so it happens now we get some of these.
I started dating my twenty eight year old girlfriend when
I was twenty four. We've been married for thirty five years.

(01:22:43):
I feel like it was a big difference at first,
but now it's nothing. Mandy, my wife was ten years
older than me. We were together for twenty five plus years.
I am now widowed widower. I'm sorry this keeps updating.
Let me find it I'm now sixty three year old widower.
That's the biggest downside of that situation, getting divorced. You're

(01:23:04):
generally not still in love with the person you have lost.
I'm so sorry about that. That doesn't sound fun, but
thank you for sharing. Mandy. This isn't completely relevant to
your topic today other than to demonstrate perspective. I remember
many years ago when I was in high school when
we would talk about older women and have discussions like
she's twenty five but still pretty hot for her age.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Yeah, you know, at this point in my life, if
I'm hot for my age, I would love that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
That would be fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
I wouldn't even think about the fact that it's kind
of a backhanded, you know, slap. This show is getting
me all hot and bothered. What did I do?

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
My wife is eleven years older than me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Seem like a good idea at the time, but that
makes it sound like it's not a good idea now
I've taught my daughters.

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
It's a mathematical formula.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
It works. Any age divide by two and add seven.
That's the limit. Okay, wait a minute, So if I
divide my age so that is I'm fifty five. So
what is that twenty four and a half plus seven
thirty thirty one? No, I have children that age. No, no, no, no,

(01:24:17):
half your age plus seven?

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
Where did this come from?

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Who's making me do this? Rick Lewis claimed you can
date half your age plus seven. Of course Rick Lewis did.
He's a rock and roll guy. You know those guys
have no morals. I'm just kidding. Rick is super nice,
just super nice man. He is a rock guy, but
he's also a super nice man. That's crazy, Mandy. My

(01:24:43):
grandparents got married when Grandpa was forty and grandma was twenty.
This was nineteen twenty. They were married for fifty six
years before Grandpa passed. See. I love those stories. I
love those I have dated. I have dated men that
were Let's see, when I was nineteen, I went out

(01:25:04):
with a guy who was forty two, like four or
five times. Great guy, super nice guy, but I was like,
he took me to a work function and one of
the women's wives asked me what grade I was in. Yeah,
that's not awkward, but this was a long time ago too.
So and then I've dated a guy who was nine
years older than me. And then I married a guy

(01:25:25):
who was five years younger than me. That I married
a guyho was five years older than me, so obviously
I don't really have a type. Yeah, half of fifty
five is twenty seven point five. Thank you for that,
but still thirty four too close to my kid. I
don't want to get my kids together with my date
and have them be able to discuss relevant cultural pop

(01:25:45):
history from their era that I've never heard of.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
That would be my nightmare, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
To follow up, we're.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Thirty nine and fifty one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Since men tend to die sooner, we got to kick
the bucket about the same time.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
There you go for all of you are correcting my math.
This is why I don't do things that require math.
I mean, you think you think I can get another job.
I think you're overestimating my abilities. If there's math involved,
it's not happening. Can barely work a calculator, Mandy. My
wife Urla is sixty seven doing great. I'm sixty three

(01:26:17):
and fifty one years gives us each soulmates. I admire
people who are married that long. You know, if Chuck
and I, Chuck and I would have to live to
be ninety five, and yeah, ninety and ninety five to
make it to fifty years. You know, I'm a gamer.
If I don't kill him before then, it'll be fine.
It'll be fine. You guys can all come to the party.

(01:26:39):
It'll be fantastic. Fantastic. Yeah, a lot of you now
correcting my math. Appreciate you all. Appreciate you all. You
know you're getting old when you're dating a woman half
your age and it's legal. Yeah, Mandy, My sister is
seventy five, her husband is ninety three. They've been married
for forty five years and are completely and totally in love.

Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
Here's the rub.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
His health is failing and she's become his primary caregiver
for the rest of her life, and one of these
days will be by herself after forty five years.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
That's a shame. I know this is going to sound
probably weird to some.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Of you, but there are people who genuinely feel that
being there as a spouse declines and eventually dies and
nursing them through that process is an honor. Not necessarily,
it's a burden. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an idiot.
It's a tremendous burden. But there's still when you love

(01:27:37):
someone and you've been with him that long. There's a
there is a sense of dignity about that that can
carry you through a lot. Ma, Mandy, My mom's friend
was about forty five years old. I was eighteen.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
She was drunk, came on to me, and I accidentally
slept with her.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Was she laying there naked and you tripped and fell
and then got up and tripped and fell again. How
exactly does one accidentally have sex?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Oops?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
What what is that?

Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Sorry, it's not weird. How that fits right there? No, no, no, no, Mandy.
Emmanuel Macron is forty six, Brigitte Macron is seventy one. Yeah, yeah,
we were kids, says this one. A shotgun wedding. My
aunt was twenty when she married my uncle, who was

(01:28:29):
sixty an arranged marriage, great marriage, until he died at
one oh three. My then sixty three year old aunt
married her high school sweetheart until she died. Oh my gosh,
that's love. Well, you know, I have mixed feelings about
arranged marriages because obviously I'm a big fan of free
will and choice and things like that when it comes

(01:28:50):
to controlling your own destiny. But I've also read stories
about arranged marriages and how they can be very, very
successful and happy and loving.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
I mean, who knows you better than your family?

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Right attended at funeral last month, says this texter for
my wife's aunt. My wife's sixty five year old cousin
has a thirty three year old daughter. Her husband is
older than her father, and they have a two year old.
They appear to be very happy, and she openly acknowledges
her second husband will be closer to her age.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
The sad thing about that, and it's I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Don't want to say, like, having children when you know
the father is that much older is the sad thing,
because you've brought a child into this world and now
that gets to go on. But I always feel bad
for the kids in that sense. I mean, before Chuck
and I had Q, he was forty five, I was thirty,
he was forty four, and I was thirty nine, and
I thought to myself, like, what if she waits to

(01:29:46):
get married until she's thirty, We're going to be old.

Speaker 5 (01:29:49):
Now, I don't think that's that old.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
By the way, that scale has dramatically dropped over the
past few years. I had a boss who was a
handsome man. He was forty one and got engaged to
a nineteen year old. When sit next to her, he
looked so gray and wrinkled, I was completely grossed out.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
I called it child molester.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Rough and judgmental, I know, but it was entirely traumatizing
to look at. You know, those relationships are made for
a variety of reasons. Somebody earlier text in and said,
big age gap, you're either a nurse or a purse.
And I think there's probably a lot of truth to that.
I dated a forty one year old when I was
twenty one. She was my youth baseball coach's ex wife.

(01:30:29):
Holy crap, talk about a way to stick it to
the ex.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
That's weird, just weird.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
Wait a minute, Like I say, you're only as old
as the woman you feel, well, there might be some
truth to that, maybe, Mandy. When I turned forty, I
wanted to trade him my wife for two twenty year olds,
but I found out I'm not wired for two twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
That was funny, Mandy. A guy in my class of
eighty seven, seventeen years years old, got a thirty eight
year old pregnant and married her. How did that work?
Out because you've had a fifty thirty something years after that,
almost forty.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
I gotta know how did that work out?

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
Get on Facebook texture I'm going to need a full
update tomorrow for the show.

Speaker 5 (01:31:22):
I need to know how that works.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Wouldn't want anyone else caring for my spouse after forty
plus years. And that's what I'm talking about, because when
you love someone, you can do herculean things when it
comes to caregiving. I learned that when I learned how
to suction my dad's lungs. Did not see that coming
in our father daughter relationship, but in the last fourteen
months that's what he needed me to do, and so

(01:31:46):
I did it. And it was a great honor being
able to talk or help him during that time of life.
A little off topic, but how is the eighty eight
keys lady? You are talking about my friend Hazel Ramspothem.
She came to see me at the Regent Revolution appearance.
She is doing fantastic. She's still got books to sell.
If you need them, let me know. I'll email you,

(01:32:08):
or you can email me and I'll have Hazel connect
with you. She's just fantastic, same, just same, remarkable. That's
what Hazel's doing Mandy. I dated a girl fifteen years
younger than me. I had to explain to her that
Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings, And there
you have it. Let's just say I'm dating someone is

(01:32:28):
never gonna happen, to be clear, I want to be
clear about that. Let's just say the world has gone
upside down and I'm dating someone who's thirty years old
and he does something and needs attention, and instead of
giving attention, I said, it's oh, it's Musha, mushad Musha.
He's not gonna know who I'm talking about. And then
I would have to explain the joke and the joke

(01:32:49):
is not funny anymore until you actually see the show,
and then it's just the thing. I think pop culture
references are very important for me, but only mine. I
was talking.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
I was talking to the queue this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
We were working on a project together, and we were
talking about her dad responding to a song that she
had played him, one of her songs, you know, because
she's fifteen, so she's got her music. And she said,
I played this song for dad. He hated it. And
it's pop country is what it is. And Chuck is
not a pop country fan. And I said, well, you know,

(01:33:24):
dad's old, and she goes, is that when is that?
Why is that an excuse? Like, oh, dad's old? I said,
trust me, the music that you're listening to now, you're
gonna love forever. But when you're fifty five and you're
sixty sung, young whipper snapper like you is gonna make
fun of it, and it's gonna make you mad. This
is the cycle of life. This is what is happening.

(01:33:45):
So yeah, Mandy, most men want a perfect ten. I'll
settle for a couple of two's in a six pack. Yep, yep.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
You guys are killing me with the one liners. But
they're too good for me not to share. If they're
kids in the car, turn off a station for ten seconds,
just ten seconds, and then.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
I'll be back.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Are you ready? Here's the joke. We found out Grandpa's
addicted to viagra the other day. No one's taking it
harder than grandma. All right, thank you, try the buffet
and again, I'm gonna need that update on the seventeen
year old who got the thirty eight year old woman pregnant?

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Who?

Speaker 6 (01:34:28):
Who?

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
I Have you noticed though? We have this massive number
of white woman teachers who are hooking up with high
school students or even middle school boys. That is just disgusting.
It's disgusting when male teachers do it. It's even more
disgusting somehow when female teachers do it. So gross. And

(01:34:49):
I know we're supposed to think, oh, those boys didn't mind.
Those boys are not smart enough to make good decisions,
and if they're going to make a bad decision, it
should be at the behest of other young people, not
an old person anyway. Ryan Edwards joining us from Bronco's
training camp. Ryan, how was it today? Glorious?

Speaker 9 (01:35:07):
Yes, it's always glorious. It's a great time of year
and it's hot. But we certainly could be in worse
situations that we're seeing around our states.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
So we are.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
Grateful, grateful what you guys got.

Speaker 9 (01:35:18):
Coming up today, we're gonna write down some more of
what we've saw out a camp. There's an interesting little
rule tweak that happened that I guess I had missed,
but certainly is a big impact. And we're gonna ready
for the first preseason game tonight, the Hall of Fame games.

Speaker 6 (01:35:34):
That'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
What how is that even possible.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
What happened to summer?

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
What are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:35:38):
Ryan?

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
What are we doing now?

Speaker 9 (01:35:39):
I mean we're weeks away from pumpkin spice lote season,
so it's done.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
Oh I forgot it this summer.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
You know what I'm gonna do secret Santa this year,
just so I can secretly steal Ryan's name and get
him everything.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
Pumpkin spice like.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
A T shirt, you know, long sleeves like T shirt
for the winter, and it's like a scratch and sniff
pumpkin spice thing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
If they have that.

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
Don't threaten me the good time.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
I know, I know. But now it's time for the
most exciting segment on the radio of its kind in
the world of the day. All right, here we go.
Oh to the person who said Q needs younger parents,
I can assure you she does. On her behalf. I

(01:36:20):
just want to say, yes, she does. But here we
are just chugging along, trying to raise her the best
we can being oldies. Okay, what is our dad joke
of the day?

Speaker 7 (01:36:28):
Please a rod So apparently to start a zoo you
need at least two pandas a grizzly bear and three
polar bears.

Speaker 6 (01:36:35):
It is the bare minimum.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Of course.

Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
Nice. That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
I like that one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
All right, Today's word of the day. Please.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
It is a noun. You should know it. Mid drift.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Oh, the part of your body that shows in all
of the shirts that they sell in these stores, these overtimes.

Speaker 6 (01:36:51):
Yeah, you're right, middrift.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Yep, correct, yep. I've been racking my brain about this
trivia question all day. And I know I know this
is because I've seen it on diners, drivings, and ives.
Where in the United States can you find pie town?
It is a diner, and I know that I've seen
it on diners, drivings, and knives.

Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
Where is Pietown, Wisconsin? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
I think it's like an Arizona. For some reason, it
was a desert. It was a desert climate. The tiny
town is located off Route sixty six.

Speaker 6 (01:37:23):
In New Mexico, that Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Its name suggests it's famous for its pies and has
been home to multiple pie focus.

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
Which which town? Which?

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
It doesn't say? It just oh, it's a tiny town.
There's a care though too. I thought it was a
restaurant they were asking about. Oh, yeah, Pietown.

Speaker 6 (01:37:41):
I'm looking around pi that's a city town.

Speaker 9 (01:37:46):
I've been into a lot of places in New Mexico.
I have never been to Pietown.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Well, now we're gonna have to have a We're gonna
have to have a field trip. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
What's our jeopardy category?

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
Well, good luck, Mandy and Ryan, You're welcome. Category is
assorted fruit. Okay, I sorted fruit. Texture is not a
problem here. Proverbially, someone you really like is just said
to be this, especially if that's someone is from Georgia.

Speaker 6 (01:38:11):
Ryanby Oh, I think Ryan, Ryan? What is a peach
that is correct? To crush? Or the name of a
racket game?

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Many?

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
Squash?

Speaker 6 (01:38:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:38:23):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:38:24):
In nineteen thirty six it was Catholic twenty Mississippi nineteen
in this Bowl game in Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Manny, what is the Orange.

Speaker 6 (01:38:34):
Television's mister hound?

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Mister hound?

Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
Mm hmmm mm hmm. Okay, I'm gonna give it a
backup clue for both of you. I think Val Kilmer
and Tombstone.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Many. What is huckleberry?

Speaker 6 (01:38:54):
That is correct? Rockberry hound?

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:38:58):
To upset?

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
This item means to really Ryan carefully, Ryan, what's then
apple card?

Speaker 6 (01:39:02):
That is correct? But it doesn't matter too little?

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
Yeah, yeah, you really should, right, just saying you had
your chance, buddy, you had your shot. The table was
set for you. You didn't get it. Okay. So, uh, we
already talked about what you're doing on the show today.
Training camp blah blah blah. Let me ask you this
about training camp. You know, it's been really interesting. I've

(01:39:26):
been listening to you guys talk about it. It's interesting
to hear the perspective of Al and Dave from the
opposite sides of the ball, right, because they have strong
opinions about the opposite sides.

Speaker 6 (01:39:36):
Of the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
But as you, you're a neutral guy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
So what are you seeing?

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Are you encouraged by what you're seeing when it comes
to what's happening right now.

Speaker 6 (01:39:47):
I am encouraged.

Speaker 9 (01:39:48):
I'd say that what we're finally seeing is the offense
finding some footing, and and that that's important because it's
about that time. It's the same thing the last year,
right with Russell Wilson, it was about a week and week,
week and a half in practice. Is that we finally
saw the offense kind of figure some things out. The
defense dominated early on the defensive line is better. I
think that their position groups as far as on the

(01:40:10):
offensive side of the ball, are better than a lot
of people are expecting, and we think they have a
pretty good offensive line. It kind of comes down to
will Boonix be the guy right away or they have
to stay with Jared Sidham early on to figure things out.
But I think once they figure out the quarterback, I
think a lot of things are gonna fall into play.
So I'm cautiously optimistic about this season. But once again,
that's that's what's great about this time of year is

(01:40:31):
we all get to feel optimistic.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
So exactly hope springs ejournal during training camp, doesn't it Well,
they're gonna be breaking it all down. You can hear
the other thoughts of Alfred and Dave Logan coming up next.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Keep it right here on k Away