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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Welcome, Welcome, welco you a Monday edition of the show.
I'm your host for the next three hours. Mandy Connall. Join,
of course, by just Jeff as a rod continues to
recover from his NonStop work for KOA Radio. And we'll
have Jeff for a couple hours, then we're gonna tag
them out for Couver. Now, Jeff, I just have this
question for you very quickly, because I just want you
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to know. This past weekend, we celebrated my husband's sixtieth birthday.
We had a ton of family in town. We had
a family reunion, so I was in my kitchen most
of the time watching the Olympics, so I got to
watch a lot of track and field. I want to
know if you and Couver are going to do the
handoff like they do in the Olympics, and if so,
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can we videotape that because I think it's important to
see exactly how our our you know, backstage area works
like a finely tuned machine.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We will.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
We're gonna do a headphone hand off.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh nice, I like it.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
We'll do the headphone, Yes, we'll hand it off.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yep, yes, that would be fantastic. Excellent, excellent. Okay, we
do have a like today's blog. Just let me give
you a little window into the world this morning. So
today's blog. I started looking at the news, and I've
mentioned this before. I get up in the morning, I
start looking at headlines and if a story has an
interesting headline, then I click it, open the tab.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
In my browser.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
And then so I'll have like fifty tabs open in
my browser. And then I go back and I read
the stories and I start cutting down what doesn't make
the cut. Right, So today, like everything made the cut.
None of it is earth shadowing. Some of it's a
earth shadowing and overwhelming, but a lot of it is
just super interesting stuff that seemed to happen over the weekend.
So we've got a lot on our plate. We got
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a lot to talk about. So let's jump to the
blog that is ginormous today. So I hope the band
is ready. It is Monday, so they got some rest
this weekend when they weren't drunk, so find the blog
by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com.
Look for the headline that says eight five twenty four
blog It's ay this and that and Secret Surface failures
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kind of day. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Arens in office, South American All with ships and Cliffas
and san that's going to press.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Flats today On the blog, Bka joins us from Canton
this afternoon. Good news on the firefront. The Secret Service
admits its failures. The world is worried about a US recession.
The Justice Department is meddling in the election again, and
the DOJ is now suing TikTok. Neil Gorsich writes about
the crippling regulatory state. What we should learn from Venezuelan protests.
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Free speech wins again in Colorado. If you love true
crime stories, the largest iceberg is just spinning its wheels.
So Fort Collins has a gang problem. Everyone needs a haircut,
they regret. Kamala Harris is staunchly anti death penalty is
World War Three. Around the corner, Scrolling CNN faces a
billion dollar judgment for defaming a man saving afghanis someone
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check on ben affleck If jd Vance is weird, so
is a lot of America advertising just went next level?
What to do in Denver today? What to know about
the new Ford Amphitheater, me watching the Olympics. Those are
the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. So
much stuff, so so much stuff on the blog today.
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Now I think I'm going to talk to b K
at twelve thirty and based is he back in town already?
Is he back Jeff from Canton?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Actually I don't either, obviously by my headline, but he
says he is.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I think he's going to come on at twelve thirty,
and I think he's at training camp already, So we'll
find out where BK is. But this past weekend he
got to go to Campton while Randy Gratischar was inducted
into the Football Hall of Fame, which is just an
incredible honor. So we're going to get the latest from that.
Talk to BK about that in just a few minutes,
and then at one o'clock, great, great, great column in
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hotair dot com. I pay for probably about I don't know,
maybe fifteen subscriptions and they're either substack or their various
websites that I use a lot. Hot Air is one
of them, and I love hot air because you can
go to their story and you can see all of
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the links to click through and see all this other information.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But they do a great job.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And David Stram has been on the show with us before,
and so David is going to join us and talk
about his column on the Friday afternoon press conference from
the Secret Service.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, Friday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Now we've talked about this before on the show, but
if you're new, you may not know this. When a
governmental organization does not want you to pay attention to
whatever it is they're doing, they have a press conference
on Friday afternoon. Or if they've got a report that
says something they don't want you to pay attention to,
they release the report the friday before a holiday. Okay,
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so that's the standard. So when the Secret Service calls
a press conference for Friday afternoon, you know it is
going to be a barn burner. You know it is
going to be a barn burner. So they had a
Friday afternoon press conference. David Strom has it covered really
well in a story on hot air dot com. We're
going to talk to him about it at one o'clock.
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But as one who generally gives the the benefit of
the doubt unless it is something wildly egregious and obvious,
I try to give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt.
I try to give the Secret Service benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
It is getting.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Harder and harder and harder to give the Secret Service
benefit of the doubt and more likely that there were
massive and purposeful failures that allowed Donald Trump to get shot.
Now do I think they conspired with the shooter to
come to this rally and shoot Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, I do not.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I'm not saying that. Okay, that's not what I'm implying.
But was the security Lucy goosey enough that this was
easily done? Yes, yes I do, And I think the
Secret Service, I believe everyone at the at the top
that had anything to do with recent decision making needs
to go, just needs to go. And we're going to
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talk to David about that at one o'clock. So we
got may have BK at twelve thirty, may have him.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
A little bit later. I will coordinate with him.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
On the break. Actually, Jeff, if you can coordinate with him.
I'll tell him, I'll send him, I'll email him the
zoom link here in a second. Just figure out when
he's going to be on. We're going to talk to
him as well. Now I have all this stuff on
the blog today, but I want to get to this
text message. Mandy jd Vance is weird as hell as
a staunch Republican.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So is Trump.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Honestly, they're both weird as hell. Okay, great, I'd like
to define weird as hell then, because he's a married
father of three children. His wife seems lovely and normal,
and I don't know why I can't get that to stop.
We're just going to see if we can get that
to turn off, and then we'll see if I can. Yep,
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there we go. His wife seems lovely and they have
you know, they live in a house. They do like
guy stuff, and they have guy things that come their way.
I mean, I'm I just want to know how we're
redefining weird. And I ask this because I've long known,
and if you pay attention to politics long enough, one
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of the things that the Democratic Party overall is masterful
at doing, and I means or full at doing, is
to accuse someone else of what it is they are
doing because they It kind of makes you go, well,
if you're the person being accused, you then cannot be offensive.
You have to be defensive. And if the Democrats are
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accusing someone else of it, it's almost the old you know,
when you smell a toute and someone says he who
smelt it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Dealt it.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's kind of like that, right, except they deflect, they
and they point the finger away from them, so we're
not supposed to notice that they're actually the weird party.
And that is what's going on with JD Vance. So
I'd love to know how do we define weird? And
I'll just start the show here because I think it's
a very interesting conversation to have. What makes someone weird?
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And of course it all depends on your perspective. When
I first moved to Louisville, Kentucky, it was my first
experience around large groups of Mennonite and Amish people. Okay,
they have a big Mennonite and a big Amish community,
now up.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
To that point.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Everyone a while, I'd see a family that obviously it
was either Mennonite or Amish and they're wearing the long dresses,
and they kind of looked like they just walked out
of little house on the prairie, and I just thought,
that's really weird. But then when I moved into an
area with a lot of Mennonite people and a lot
of Amish people, and I had interactions with them on
a regular basis. I bought my eggs from a Mennonite
family and bought a lot of stuff from this family
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that grew a lot of stuff in our little farmer's
market in my neighborhood. And I found out that they
were absolutely lovely. They were devoted to their faith and
their faith, though not a faith I would choose, because
I don't look good with really long, uncut hair, but
not a faith I would choose. But they were just
super nice people who chose to live in a slightly
different manner than I lived in. So then I had
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to say, Okay, that's not weird, it's just different. So
how do we define weird? I mean, if you want
me to fully argue this that the Democrats are the
weird ones, I can point out so many examples, so
so many examples the left. It's weird to me that
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people who live in the United States of America would
be chanting for into fought a worldwide That's weird to me.
It's weird to me that people want to perform permanent
surgeries and permanent hormonal treatments on children before they are
old enough to consent. But that's a thing that's happening
in the Democratic Party. It's weird to me that someone
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would affirm that women who are about to give birth
should have the right to abort and kill that baby
rather than just delivering the baby and giving it up
for adoption.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's weird to me.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's weird to me that you want to destroy the
nuclear family because you think you have some other better plan,
even though study after study has shown that the nuclear
family gives children the best chance at a successful future.
That's weird to me. So what is weird about JD.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Vance. He's a former marine, he grew up.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
In poverty, and yet he managed to go to both
Harvard and Yale. Somehow he is now a US Senator
from the state of Ohio. Growing up with a drug
addicted mom who, by the way, just got sober ten
years ago, just got sober, and yet he is an
American success story, and everybody's running around on the left
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saying he's weird.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
What is this? I'm genuinely confused.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Is he weird because you don't agree with him on
policy positions? What makes him weird? Or are you just
watching all the news media coverage, the same news media
coverage that is telling you that Kamala Harris is the
second coming of Christ, even though in the twenty twenty
presidential primary she did not win one single delegate, not one.
She was so unpopular, she did not win one single delegate.
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Think about that for a second. So this whole jd
vanceys weird? Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
What's weird about him?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
The cat lady comment? I totally understand what he was saying.
I went over this last week now as senator. Or
does he have a piece of legislation that would give
people with children more votes than people without? Did he
put that forth when he was a US senator?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Could he have been engaging in a rhetorical kind of conversation,
you know, one of those Batman versus Superman conversations. It
don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. They're
just a thought experiment for us.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Could that be it?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I'm genuinely I really would like to know. Mandy's saying
nuclear family is weird, except it means a family that
is all together a father, a mother, and children. That's
a nuclear family, not nuclear like they're green. Mandy keep
maga weird because apparently a mom and a dad with
kids in a house that pays taxes and contributes to
society and love America is weird. That's from Jared, who's
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gay but still believes everyone every child deserves a mother
and a father. That's what his tech says. I wasn't
just editorializing on Jared's comment. Mandy, how dare you suggest
that only women can give birth and have a weirdo?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Own it?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I own it. If that makes me weird, then I'm weird.
It's weird. Kamala laughing like an evil witch. Mandy, you're weird.
You are. If this is the standard of weird, then
yes I am. Mandy.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Being normal is overrated. True, he's weird because he's a Republican.
That's the left's argument. That actually is probably pretty accurate.
Texter Mandy. Serial killers have been known to have a
normal family life, lovely wife, church membership, et cetera. It's
not what's on the surface, that makes one not weird.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Now, with all due.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Respect, Texter, do we live in a world full of
serial killers who grew up in perfectly normal nuclear homes. No,
we don't. They're what's called the outlier, and outliers are
called outliers because they're not normal. They are weird, Mandy.
Many believe that evangelicals like me are not only weird
but dangerous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mandy. Jd Vance is just
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an odd duck. Every time I've seen him talk has
been odd. He is way more far right than I am.
He is weird. Now, let me ask you, Texter, where
have you seen him talk? Have you seen full interviews
with jd Vance? Because in the last week and a
half I have gone back and I've looked at the
full interviews that are being exerted on X And when
you look at the full interview, if you're not agreeing
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with most of what he's saying, then yeah, you probably
do think he's weird.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But he's not.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
He articulates what it's like to grow up in a
community that when he was growing up in Middletown, oh To, Ohio,
it was devastated by the closing of a steel mill.
The entire town was devastated. Their poverty levels were through
the roof. Well guess what, they've managed to pull themselves
out of a ditch. Middletown, Ohio is doing pretty darn
good now. They've reinvented themselves. But he talks about it
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because it's important because Middletown is just one city that
had to reinvent itself. How many other cities are collapsing
and die that have to reinvent themselves. So, uh, yeah,
you are cool and the Left is weird.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
But I don't call the left weird. I just call
them wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I call them different. It's like I tell my daughter,
there are lots of people in this world that are
very different than me. Doesn't make me better than them
or them better than me. It means that we are different,
and that's okay. Imagine how dull the world would be
if we were all the same, if we lived in
Lego Land where everything was awesome. I mean, come on,
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it's weird to think the Left acted like they didn't
know Joe was braindead. More on that later, because when
is the mainstream media going to start asking Kamala Harris, Hey,
why did you say anything about the fact that your
boss completely has no clue what's going on. Completely. JD
does wear eyeliner. Yeah, oh, here's one. You don't understand.
The beard. The beard. It's Unamerican. That's the dumbest thing
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I've ever heard in my entire life. And I'm guessing
just my producer right now, who is currently rocking a beard, probably.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Feels the same way. Do you feel un American with
your beard?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Jeff?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I feel very American with my beard.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
There you go, There you go, Mandy, I was raised
by two moms. People like you shouting nuclear family or
the reason I was bullied do better? You know what, guys,
I when I say nuclear family, let me just let
me just give you the definition. Let me just give
you the definition of the words nuclear family. Definition so
we can all get on the same page. And let
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me just say this. I am sorry you were bullied.
Let me just say that first of all. But guess what,
if you were raised by two normal parents, there's still
a chance you would have been bullied because guess what,
I was raised by two parents and I was bullied.
The notion that somehow, I talk show host cannot use
widely accepted terms because it's gonna hurt your feelings. I'm
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done with that, and I apologize if that hurts your feelings,
but I'm not gonna change it. Nuclear family, also known
as an elementary family, atomic family, a serial, packet family,
or conjugal family, a family group consisting of parents and
their children, typically.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Living in one home.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It is.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
It's been around since the early twentieth century, which is
why it doesn't necessarily mean gay families, because gay families
weren't a thing back then. Now do I have an
issue with gay family.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I don't care. But nuclear family is an accepted term,
and that's what I'm talking about here, So sorry about that.
You have no idea how many text messages and messages
I get where I hit somebody's nerve that day, and
they're gonna chastise me for using an accepted term, and frankly,
I don't care anymore. So if it hurt your feelings,
tough anyway. I'm glad you had a happy childhood with
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your two moms. I'm happy about that. My wife wears
a T shirt says this texture that reads I tried
being normal once worse two minutes of my life. Yeah,
Jad wants to ingratiate himself with the Hillbillies. The Hillbillies
he called lazy and stupid in his book. Did you
read the book? Texture?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Because I did. I did read the book, and I have.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
To tell you, growing up in a community with a
lot of people just like that, I found him to
be highly accurate in his description of the people who
live in Appalachia, very very much. And there's a reason
that some of those people live in poverty for their
entire lives. It's because they make bad choices and dumb decisions.
It's because they buy cigarettes every day instead of saving money.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I mean, come on, Mandy, how many of our American
presidents or vps had beards or facial hair at least half.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
If there was a.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Time in our country where if you didn't have facial hair,
you were not considered to be a manly man, you
were not considered Now we have guys with beards and
man bunds.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Figure that out.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
It's like, Oh, I'm teasing you, man one guys, because
I know you get you get all salty about that. Anyway,
What's weird is Trump is going to blow this election.
More on that later too. Because you might be right, Texter.
He went into Georgia for a rally. In Georgia, where
Governor Brian Kemp is extremely popular. He won reelection in
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a landslide, and trump'sman part of the rally attacking Brian Camp.
It's like, Oh, he's desperately trying to lose this election.
That's how I feel sometimes. Mandy, you said you read
Jad's book. Is it a good read? He'll Billy Elegy
is fantastic. And I've said this long before he was
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the vice president. It is the best psychological profile of
the mentality of people who live and come from grinding poverty,
multi generational poverty. And in my part of Florida, we
have lots of families like that, lots of families like that,
families that don't want their kids to go to college
because they'll get too big for their breches. And I've
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actually heard an adult say that to someone. When a
friend of mine got a master's degree, her mother in
law shunned her because he was too educated for the
family and thought she was quote better than everybody else.
I can assure you nothing about that was true. I
just finished his book, and he loved his family roots
and protected the family Code.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yes he did. It's a great book. Check it out.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
You know what, maybe we'll make that our book club
because I could totally read it again. It was a
very good read and not a hard read. It was
a fast read. We'll be right back to talk more
about that. Are we going to at BKA.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
He is coming up next.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Okay, BK coming up next from training camp about being
in Canton. That's all coming up right after this. All right,
we are back and Brandon Christol is at Bronco's training camp,
and I wish you guys could see him on Zoom
right now as he frantically tries to find a microphone
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that works so he can talk to me on Zoom.
This past weekend, he got to go and watch Bronco
great Randy Gratishar be inducted into the NFL Football It's
not the NFL football, just a football Hall of Fame,
and a what a wonderful honor for Randy Gratishar first
of all, and the Denver Becausette has a really interesting,
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very interesting article about the fact that Randy Gratishar getting
into the Hall of Fame. Many think Super Bowl winning
coach Mike Shanahan will be the next Bronco.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
To be enshrined.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
So as soon as BKA gets his U no, still
not working, by still not working, just hang up a
call in BK.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Stop.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, just stop messing around. Just call in so BK.
I'll give us a call in a second. But you know,
this is uh the honor that every every single football
player in the NFL would like at some point.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
They all want to be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
And Gary Zimmerman said at the induction, everybody's thinking that
Mike Shanna has a good shot. But it's amazing how
many Broncos from that era have gotten in gratishar and
former defensive tackle Steve McMichael got from Chicago, got the
eighty percent of the vote by the fifty person committee.
And I think this was his last year. He was
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thirty five years in the making and he is finally in.
Do we have BK out by phone? All right, let's
bring Brandon chrisal up from training camp? Okabka.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I don't know what the problem was, but here we are.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I don't either. I was slapping out cords. I'm site
on courts from Shannon. There's still finishing up press conferences.
It should have been done by now. So I had
the cord that I normally use is over there plugged
into a recorder as Julian McLoughlin the young running backs talking.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But this works.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
You can hear me and I can hear you.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
There you go. So how was it?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Is this the first time you've ever gotten to go
to the Hall of Fame induction ceremony?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
No, thankfully I was able to go when Champ Bailey
and mister Bowling got in, and that was so much fun.
The Broncos played in the Hall of Fame Game, which
actually was cool, but it made the season extra long
and I think maybe took it sole on the team,
but still make for a fun few days. And then
Steve Atwater invited me and my wife to go when
he was inducted in twenty twenty one. But because he
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was class at twenty twenty with COVID, they did the
double weekend ceremony, so he had Peyton Manning and John
Lynch going in that weekend as well, and so it
was like a you know, it was basically two days
of speeches and three days at parties. So both of
those were really really fun experiences.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
This.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I wasn't sure if I was going to get the
cover or not. And then our higher ups said, hey,
we've got the budget. We're sending you out there. It's
going to be great.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
And it was, and.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Thankfully I got to go. You know, KOA was one
of only two outlets that were there. The Gazette also
sent one reporter. But I got to walk in the
parade with Randy and Tom Jackson, who had never been
in a parade they do Saturday morning. It was really cool,
especially so Randy's from Champion, Ohio, forty miles away. They
had the Champion in high school marching band march in
front of Randy's vehicle, which I would be a cool
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red corvette. I know, I couldn't find him an orange
of blue one, but rest in Ohio state, I guess.
And so he had a million Ohio state bands up
and down.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The parade route.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
And my favorite part was every time Randy saw anyone
wearing not a Broncos shirt, He's like a Cowboys brown
He's like, oh, wrong jersey, wrong, wrong shirt, and he
says yelling, go Broncos, go Buck Guye. So that was
like a fun way to start Saturday morning. Then you
had end of days kind of rain on Saturday that
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delayed the enshrinement and they had to stop letting people in.
And like after the ceremony when I got home and
was watching the news in my hotel, and like Canton
set a record for rainfall, like it's not even five
o'clock yet, like a record for the day. The rains anymore,
they're gonna shatter it. But it was just a great weekend.
It was so great to see the members of the
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Orange Crush that made it back as well as former Broncos.
You know, Terrell Davis was there on Friday, and DeMarcus
ware who got in last year, and Peyton Manning made
it back Saturday as well, and Gary Zimmerman and Steve Attwater.
Of course, I think Shannon Sharp and John Away may
have been at a funeral and so that's why they
weren't there. But it was just it was awesome to
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see so many Broncos fans, a Ohio State fans there
to support Randy who's you know, like you said, it's
been thirty five years in waiting, and that's way too
long because he was too good of a player and
too good of a defense. But at least he's finally
in where he belongs.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
You know, when you get to go this and you
get to be around your round sports figures all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Bkay.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
So is there a difference in the field when you
are at the Hall of Fame induction than it is
when you're like at a super Bowl party before the
Super Bowl with a bunch of athletes. Does it have
a different air?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
It really does. And so I've been lucky enough doing
what we do to really become friends with a handful
of Hall of Famers. They don't even have ties to Denver,
but you meet him along the way and just kind
of click. And so guys like Andre Reid and John
Randall and Willie Rowe who I've just struck up friendships
with getting to see those guys and they do this
really cool event now on Friday nights where all the
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Hall of Famers at their Hall of Fame hotel, they
have just a party after the Gold Jacket dinner. So
it's their families and friends and the new class springs,
you know, their inner circle, and so they just get
it forces them to kind of be in the same
room beyond the Hall of Famers get to do a
luncheon on Friday, just Hall of Famers only in the
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President of the Hall of Fame and nobody else, which
is its own cool thing. But then to just be
in that room around all that greatness as somebody who
loves football as much as I do, you know, my
reverence for that place every time I go there. It's
really special. And because of just how my travel schedule
broke down, I was able to just kind of walk
around the museum yesterday and not focus on taking pictures
or video and just enjoy it. To the exhibits, and
(26:32):
I sat in two different you know, like a cool
hologram thing with Joe Namanth that he hosts and Warren
Moons in it. And then I see Warren Moon outside
and I'm like, how does nobody see the Warren Moons here?
Like two hundred people there and I was talking to Warren.
Nobody came up to asking for an autograh. I think
they didn't realize it was him because they wasn't wearing
a gold jacket. But it's just it's a really cool
place to go. And if you're a football fan, I
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mean all those museums, I mean Cooperstown, which isn't far
from where my wife grew up, and a Rod was
just there, and I wish I could have gone Todd
Helton's enshrinement because I got to cover him for so
long and he's such a good dude. But Cooper sounds amazing.
The Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield, end of the
Hockey Hall of Fame in toronto's great. But if you
like football and they're doing all this extra stuffy're building
a hotel with a water park in the Hall of
Fame village, it's worth going. And so when Mike Shanahan
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gets in, Or's certainly Von Miller, and hopefully some more
Broncos along the way, guys like Dennis Smith, Rod Smith,
other guys from the Orange Crush like Louis Wright or
Billy Thompson or Tom Jackson. Hopefully when they get in,
Broncos fans, if you haven't gone, make a point of
trying to get there for Hall of Fame weekend.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I want to ask you one more question before I
let you go. This is a quick one because we're
almost out of time. Gratishar's Hall of Fame speech says
his Texter was largely a testimony on his strong faith
in God, it was refreshing to see an organization let
him express himself like that and hear the numerous applause
rounds from the audience.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Did you get that as well?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah, I certainly know how much his church means to
him and how much his faith means to him. Didn't
really know the origins of it. But with two time
Hall of Fame or Archie Griffin sitting there, you find
out that our she invited them to do an FC
eight thing back when they were in Ohio State, and
that just became kind of his identity and how much
it means to him. So I think you just want
the speech is to be genuine. So whether it's guys
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talking about their rough upbringing or a great upbringer or whatever, right, however,
they got the football that they're true to themselves. And
so Champ Bailey gave a speech about social justice and
I thought that that was really moving. And so certainly
for folks who have faith at the forefront of how
they live their life, regardless of you know, the actual religion,
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I think you can appreciate when it's obvious how much
their faith means to them. You know, I don't think
he's trying to beat anybody over the head with hey,
you need to live your life, right, I do just
this is how I live my life. And so I
appreciated that genuine, you know, that genuine touch that he
put on his speech, beyond obviously thanking the people that
meant so much to him.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
All Right, that's b Kay from training camp. It's good
to hear from you, and my friend, I'll talk to
you again soon.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Okay, sounds good man, you say, all right, thank.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You, b Kay.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
We'll be right back. All right, we are back.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
A lot of you on the text line. Still weighing
in on the JD. Vance is weird thing. I started
the show if you missed it, talking about that, and
it is Its interesting because now I just pulled up
a column Jady Vance from The Daily Beast, which is
not exactly a right wing website, about a podcast that
(29:26):
I guess aired on his forty JD. Vance's fortieth birthday.
Last Friday was his fortieth birthday, and in it it's
like doing a damage control podcast. Vance said he was
talking about being vetted by the Secret Service to be
vice president, and Vance said a lawyer showed up at
the house to talk to him and his wife Usha
while the kids were asleep upstairs, and he says, the
(29:48):
guy goes, do you have any secret family?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Jadie Vance is like, what are you serious? Do I
have a secret family? Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
The agent, according to Vance, said well, sometimes people we'll
have another spouse and they'll have other kids in a
place like Alaska. And Jade Vance is like, dude, I've
never even been to Alaska. So this article, He's like, Look,
I'm married, I have kids. I like to watch football,
you know. I mean a lot of people are hung
up on two separate comments by JD.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Vance.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And by the way, I got a text from someone
who says, because you support Advance, I'm never listening to
you again. Okay, fine, I just here's the thing. If
I thought Jade Vance was a scumbag, I would tell you.
And if you've listened to the show for any length
of time, I've called Donald Trump's scumbag on more than
one occasion because of his scumbag behavior. But expressing the
views that he has expressed, the childless cat lady thing,
(30:41):
I understand why he expressed him And until you can
show me a piece of legislation that says people with
kids get more votes than people without. Then it's just
a rhetorical conversation. He has had bad things to say
about no fault divorce because he understands, as I do
as a child of divorce, that it has a deep
and lasting negative impact on the kids. Like we all
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have to say, kids are resilient. It doesn't matter. As
the child of divorce, I can tell you at forty
I still felt the repercussions of that. Okay, So I
understand where he's coming from. I absolutely get it. And
it's not like he's tried to get any any of
these things in the law. So calm down, Calm down.
I'd much rather you be upset about the fact that
(31:25):
Kamala Harris wants to make it not a crime to
walk across the southern border while giving medicare to all
the illegal immigrants that are coming across the border. I'd
much rather have that conversation. To me, that's weird. To
believe that there is no national sovereignty for the United
States of America is strange. That's weird. Not ever wanting
(31:46):
the death penalty in any cases. You know, I am
anti death penalty for the most part, but when there's
no doubt somebody did something that I'm like, Okay, we
can make that happen. We totally make that happen. And
she's the exact opposie. She's like, never, death penalty, never, never, never.
And I'm wondering if that stance is not part of
the reason that they just cut a deal with the
(32:07):
nine to eleven terrorists. I think there's two things at
work in that deal that took the death penalty off
the table. And does anybody else think they're probably gonna
come to Florence, Colorado to the supermacs. I gotta tell you,
my options were living in a cell twenty three hours
a day for the rest of my life, having one
hour to walk around in another room that had sunlight
(32:28):
but no windows. I don't know if I wouldn't be like,
you know what, just take me out. I'm good, I'm okay,
you know I'm all right. That being said, the whole
jd Vance is weird thing. I think is going to
backfire if, and this is a big if, the Trump
campaign starts making ads about who Jdvance actually is. A
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couple of things have happened in a couple of weeks
since Kamala Harris became the presidential nominee by decree, while
they threw out all the votes of Democratic voters that
had already cast their ballots in a primary election. The
media is trying to make us not talk about that.
Let's not talk about the fact that it's the height
of irony that the Democratic Party says they are going
(33:13):
to save democracy by crapping all over the democratic process.
I mean, it's very Orwellian the way they went about that.
They don't want us to talk about that. They don't
want us to talk about the fact that Kamala Harris
obviously knew that Joe Biden was addled and has known
for a very long time that he was addled. And
(33:34):
if she didn't know, then that means she's not at
all engaged in the day to day operations of the
White House, which means she's not ready to lead. They
don't want us talking about that. They don't want to
talk about any of that stuff. They don't want us
talking about the job numbers that just came out in
the United States that just sent the n K index crashing.
In Japan, the entire world is worried about a recession
(33:57):
in the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's markets for the last today. It's all over the world.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Markets are a mess right now because the US looks
like it's on the verge of recession, and they don't
want us to talk about that. So instead we're going
to talk about Jade Vance talking about cat ladies running
the world and the fact that he thinks that people
with children have more dog in the fight than people
without and I mean the fight for the future. I
(34:23):
actually think he has a good point. We talked about
that last week, so I'm not going to beat that
ned horse. This is why jd Vance is weird, because
they don't want to talk about the actual record of
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and the economy they have
left us. That's what they don't want to talk about.
Mandy says this Texter. I find it funny how everyone
is upset about Vance, but no one is saying anything
(34:45):
about the combo. She wants open borders, she wants taxpayers,
taxpayers to pay for sex change operations and drugs for
people in prison, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Exactly right, that's what I just said, Mandy.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
My kids are children of they were twenty eight, but still.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
How that affects adult children. I don't know, but I
do know that it deeply affected me and my brother
and my sister when my parents divorced in ways that
I did not actually recognize until much, much, much, much
much later. You see the effect in your relationships as adults, right,
(35:24):
And it's not good. It's not good, Mandy. We've been
in recession since last year. Biden has been hiding it
with the Feds. It's getting harder. It's getting harder.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Oh this Texter. Oh no, rich people losing money? So sad?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Do you think a recession only hurts people at the top.
A recession hurts everyone, not just people at the top.
The NK did not crash because of US job numbers.
The US job numbers came out on Friday. They were
much much, much softer than they were expected to be,
and as a result, the NK, along with other markets
(35:59):
around the world, are looking at the US and waiting
for recession. You can go to the blog and see
a story about that. You can check it out for yourself, Mandy,
my kids, Oh wait, Mandy. The fact that you have
to spend your time defending these weirdos explains it all.
We're an hour into your show. Oh crap, just updated,
hang on, We're an hour into your show and you
(36:19):
have done nothing but try and defend these scumbags.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Lol.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I don't think JD. Vance's a scumbag. I really don't
at all. Trump has done some real scumbaggy things, and
I've called him on them all in this program over
and over again. So there you go. And you guys,
Trump is actively throwing this election away by his terrible
VP pick. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. No
(36:43):
one has ever said, well, you know what, I like
that candidate. I like their policies, but ow gad that
VP pick. I just can't. No one does that. We'll
be right back.
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show,
and I am thrilled to have back on the show
with us. One of the great minds between hot behind
hot air dot com, David Strom. He writes there every day,
multiple times a day because apparently they don't get union
breaks at hot air dot com. So David, welcome back
to welcome back to this.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
You do not you do not want to know how
little I get paid to write about I figured it
out once. It's about four to five thousand words a day.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
Yeah, it's just an astronomical amount of writing I do.
On the other hand, it's exactly how I think. I
just I'm someone who you know, thinks in you know,
short bursts, you know, yeah, short bursts, and I'm thinking
(38:16):
a lot about a lot of different things. And so
you know, if someone said go write a book, and
you know, book is one hundred and fifty thousand words,
that be what in all three weeks of yeah, point.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Exactly, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
I could not do it because it requires a different
kind of thinking.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, attention span, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Well, today I open up hot air dot Com as
I do every day as a faithful subscriber to the
network there, and I saw a story and honestly, I just.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Told David this before the show, before we came on
the air.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
This is the most disheartening series of stories and information
as we as we start to find out more and
more about this secret Secret Service failures at the Butler
Pennsylvania Rally and Friday in the ultimate look over here,
they had a press conference Friday afternoon during the summer,
there's nothing going on on the weekends, and they basically
(39:15):
admitted all of these horrible things. David, and why don't
we give you the quick list of some of the
as you call them, inexplicable things that were revealed by
Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
What were some of the things that came out on Friday.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Well, and let's give you a little bit of background.
You know, Ali Handro Majorca has hired Ronald row for
the director's position when Cheetle resigned. Right, Well, Ronald Rowe
was the guy who was in charge of the protective
details as the assistant director. So, you know, a guy
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who ought to be investigated on all sorts of things
like why were there not more resources, Why we're their drones?
Why is this the first time that there were counter
snipers at a Trump event? Why where there's so many
denials of resources. This guy who ought to be investigated
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is the investigator. He's in charge of the investigation now
before Congress, he actually said that the problem was a
failure of imagination, that the Sacred Service didn't ever imagine
that someone would actually want to take a shot at
one of their protectees.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Oh my, he said, Oh my god. So just let
me have a moment.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
The only job they have is to have imagination about
how their protectees can be hurt. That's their literal, only
freaking job. And you're telling me we just it never
occurred to us that we'd actually have to do our
job to protect our protectees.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Go ahead, David, yes, consider over here to breathe for
a minute.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
There are so many failures here. First of all, the
Secret Service and the local police, which are the Butler Police,
and then the State Police, who we actually have their recordings,
right The Secret Service says they didn't record anything from
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that day, So you're telling me the local police we're
paid more attention to what was going on than the
Secret Service. One of the things we learned from le
Row is that nobody at the Secret Service has interviewed
anyone from Butler or the State Police. So it has
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been more than three weeks and they have not interviewed
them yet. He said, well, we're going to get around
to that once we're done with all the interviews of
the Secret Service people.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
It's like, ah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
These are the people are we waterboarding people?
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Like how long does it take to bring in every
agent that was at the rally for a three hour interview.
That's like a week tops, it's a week.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
Well, and these are the people who saw him, photographed him.
They're the people who swarmed the building minutes before, you know,
with guns drawn. All right, they knew he was there,
they knew he had a gun at least thirty seconds before.
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There's some indication they knew he had a gun two
or three minutes before. There are no radio communications between
the locals and the Secret Service, although there was a
radio there, but Rose said that nobody was monitoring it.
And you know, he just goes down this whole list
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and he says, well, we've got to rethink how we
do these things. And by the way, the Secret Service
is in a building a third of a kilometer away
from where the headquarters for the local police are. And
so the problem we have here is for those of
us who are cynical but still have a hard time
(43:23):
believing that anyone on our government would actually plan and
execute something like this is how do you come up
with an alternative explanation for what is an inexplicable series
of events?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Well, at a bare minimum, okay, let's just say, let's
just say, David that you and I we have no
idea what we're talking about. We don't know how these
things work. And from the outside looking in, it was
just a series of just one mistake after another in
a vacuum. None of these mistakes are that critical, but
they all just happen to happen in this one rally
when one guy with a gun and was going to
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show up in this one time. Okay, at a minimum,
everybody that had anything to do with this has to
be fired, right, that is thing number one, just fired
for incompetence, Like just straight up, you're like, okay, you're fired.
But yet Ronald Rowe gets promoted. So we have a guy,
as you just said, he gets promoted because of his incompetence,
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because Cheto had to be forced out because she was terrible.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
He refused.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
I watched a lot of the testimony of Ronald Row
in front of Congress, and he talked about a guy
that simply refused to put himself at the top of
the food chain when decisions were being made or Kimberly Cheetle,
he would not admit, yeah, there was a group decision.
I'm like, wait a minute, don't you make more money
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than the other people? Like, if your salary is higher
than the other people, then you are in charge and
you have to take responsibility. When I watched that, I
was like, this dude is not going to take responsibility
for anything. And this leads me to a bigger question,
and that is this goes along with what we have
seen in the FBI. Christopher Ray is still head of
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the FBI. Christopher Ray sat in front of Congress and
questioned openly whether or not Donald Trump had been shot,
even though then the FBI had to come out a
couple days later and said we always knew he was shot.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
You know, it's not a question. It was Congress.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Yeah, So Christopher Ray does this. So we have all
of these people, these kind of people circling around and
and and this is the deep state that Donald Trump
talks about. But is there any hope of it ever
going away?
Speaker 7 (45:35):
Well, I mean, you know, one of my major critiques
of Trump after he left office, you know, I said
that Donald Trump had three amazing years, far better than
I ever expected. And then he was defeated by the
deep state in year four over COVID y, which you know,
(45:59):
to to give him credit, and I gave him a
lot of credit. He was utterly ill equipped to deal with.
You know, Donald Trump is amazing at negotiating with people,
at seeing through people. But here he was faced with
(46:19):
something where he had absolutely no experience. He had people
who he thought he had every reason to trust. I mean,
who didn't trust doctors back then. Yeah, I do think
he learned.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
You see, my little kiddie, I.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Do see the cat has appeared in the zoom chat. Yeah,
cat has entered the chat.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (46:41):
Yes, In any case, I think this time around he understands.
And today Elon Musk offered to help set up and
shair a government efficiency.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I saw that. I saw that.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
That's a really interesting proposition because unless you really reform
the civil service system, there are too many protections.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
And I understand, let's be okay, let's just break it down.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
The Civil Service Code exists so we can have a
bureaucracy that is not necessarily subject to the slings and
eras of political wins, right, which is necessary, or it
would be chaos and DC. But the protections have gone
well beyond what is reasonable. And it is damn near
impossible to fire someone for egregious behavior like stabbing an
(47:33):
administration in the back while they're trying to do something.
And I do believe that that happened during the Trump
administration to your point.
Speaker 7 (47:39):
No, in fact, yeah, the New York Times was crowing
about this. Yeah, we're doing editorials for you know, I'm
part of the resistance within the Trump administration exactly, you know,
which is if not an insurrection, it's insurrection. Ee. When
you've got this sort of conspiracy of government officials and
(48:01):
they're bragging about being conspirators against the elected president, you know.
I mean, you know, with regard to the you know
how a political or not the government employees are. All
you need to know is that Washington, DC is ninety
(48:21):
eight percent Democrat. Yeah, you know, And so we have
to look at government as another interest group because that's
what it is, you know, And it's an interest group
that controls six trillion dollars exactly and regulates the rest
of the economy. There's no organization on earth that is
(48:45):
more powerful than the bureaucrats. So in the federal government.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
I do want to dip my toe with this story
that I didn't see until you pointed it out. Former
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheadle and others in top agency
leadership positions wanted to destroy the cocaine discovered in the
White House last summer, but the Secret Service Forensic Services
Division and the Uniform Division stood firm and rejected the
push to dispose of the evidence. I mean, what the deuce,
(49:13):
what the hell like what there's evidence in boxes from
twenty five years ago and they want to destroy the cocaine.
Makes this makes me wonder did we ever? Was there
even a cursory investigation?
Speaker 7 (49:26):
And I'm sure there wasn't because the agent who was
in charge of the investigation wanted to do forensic work
and they took him off the case. He just wanted
to do basic friends.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
Fingerprints, things like that, looking for fingerprints, and so they
never even fingerprinted the bag.
Speaker 7 (49:48):
No, at least as far as I can tell. I mean,
you know, the story is not that explicit. It just
said basic forensic work, which you could interpret to be that.
You know, I can't say definitively they didn't do that.
But I think I can say definitively they didn't want
to know who it was. And you know, uh, now
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that doesn't mean all of us immediately think Hunter Biden.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
I mean, it's not a crazy guess, you know what
I mean, if past behavior is any future future indicator
of future performance, not a wild accusation to say that
it was Hunter Biden.
Speaker 7 (50:28):
No, but it could have been anyone at the top level.
I mean, the people who went through that door were
top level people, and none of them would they want
to discover sure they were. Yeah, so uh, you know,
and I want to be careful. I certainly don't want
to throw an accusation there. I think I think one thing,
you know, looking at all of this, that we can
(50:50):
say definitively is there's been a cover up. There's been
perjury before Congress and provably. So for instance, Christopher Ray saying, well,
we aren't sure whether there was a bullet that hit
trop It's like, yeah, you were sure on day one.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Yeah, And that's what the FBI subsequently came out and said,
So what.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
The hell what was that?
Speaker 7 (51:13):
There was never any doubt and you cannot tell me
that Christopher Ray did not know that. I mean, you know,
the head of the FBI didn't know this little tiny
little detail.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
Yeah, you know about an assassination attempt. I'm sure it
was no problem.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Let me get one more thing before we go, because
I want people to go to your hot air dot
com and read your stories about this. And now we
also know that the Secret Service whistleblower who was working
for the agency told a reporter on Thursday that the
agency management asked for his cell phone a few months
after j six when the Department of Homeland Security inspector
was going on and they scrubbed The Secret Service scrubbed
(51:52):
the phones.
Speaker 7 (51:53):
So oh absolutely, I mean, and that case was relatively bibbler.
There was a this was a pipe bomb case on
January sixth, and they let Kamala Harris, who is a
VP elect, get within twenty feet of a pipe bomb.
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And if you look at the responses, I mean, it's
an IG report, so it goes on forever. But if
you look at the Secret Service responses at the end,
they actually say, well, we didn't do a hot wash
on this because it was not an agency failure, which
is another way of saying we'll only look into it
(52:36):
if somebody dies, you know, it's just unbelievable. You could
go to the Inspector General report. In fact, I included it.
I've written two articles today on the Secret Service, and
on the second one I include a screenshot from the
IG report where the IG is talking about how the
cover up in the Secret Service of Or says it
(53:01):
wasn't a cover up, it was a software update. It's like,
how many times have you updated your phone and lost everything?
Speaker 3 (53:09):
And never that has never happened.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
This is like when my sons used to use my
computer and they would scrub the search history. I'm like, kids,
we all know what's going on here. Don't scrub my
search history because I know what you're up to.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Same thing.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Oh, it's just a software Know everybody in America updates
their phone whenever that happens, and we never lose anything.
David Strawm is doing great work along with the rest
of the team at hot air dot com. I appreciate
you making time for me today and great work on this.
Although I will tell you I don't want to believe
any of this is true, and yet here we are.
Speaker 7 (53:39):
Yeah, I think at this point you just have to
say they have the burden of proof. If this happened
in any other country, if someone had said to you, oh,
in Estonia, Ukraine, Russia, you know, any country in the
world other than the Mexico and someone laid out these facts,
(54:04):
you would just assume that someone in the government arrange
for this. They have the burden of proof. I am
not accusing them of doing this, but it's up to
them now to explain how this happened. What is a
plausible explanation, because there is not exactly as of now.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
David, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (54:24):
We'll talk again soon, my friend all right, Sam, all right,
that's David Strong with hot air dot Com. Really, you guys,
what do we do here? And I'm being genuine, what
do we do with this as the American people? Because
here I am sitting in Denver, Colorado, I don't feel
like I have a lot of poll here. I don't
feel what I'd like to have happen is I would
(54:44):
like to have Congress actually have a bipartisan investigation. I
would like both sides of the aisle to say this
is not okay, because right now it's the Republicans that
are being targeted, But at any minute, the winds could shift,
and then it could be the Democrats. This is all
incredibly concerning and upsetting. When we get back, we've got
some good news on the firefront. We've got a whole
(55:07):
bunch of other stuff happening. And let's see, I'm trying
to find Oh, can we talk about true crime stories
when we get back. I'll explain after this. Keep it
right here on KOA. All right, here we go, my friends.
In this segment here, I'm going to talk not about politics,
because this is a much more important story. Jeff, do
(55:29):
you and your wife consume true crime kind of you know,
documentaries and movies and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (55:35):
Oh, yeah, we love it. That's all we watch.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
It is a genre that has exploded with the rise
of Netflix and some of the stuff they've done. And
I'm doing this story for two reasons. One just to
let you know that if you love true crime stories,
you're gonna maybe be getting less of them in the
near future. Here's why did you watch Baby Reindeer? Did
you watch that?
Speaker 5 (55:55):
I did? Yep?
Speaker 3 (55:56):
Okay, So Baby Reindeer is a perfect example.
Speaker 4 (55:58):
And if you've not watched Baby What makes that one
I think especially interesting is that the guy who was
the victim in this case is actually in the show
because he's an actor and a writer and a director.
So it has this like weird credibility that that you're, like, dude,
he's freaking in this.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
I mean, it's got to be a act. But this
guy was.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Stopped by this woman who was a fan of his.
He was doing stand up comedy at the time, and
she became a stalker to the point where it's completely
insane the stuff that went on. So they make this show,
Baby Reindeer. It's really good. It's a short series. It's like,
I don't even how many episodes is that, Like, I
want to say, four or six, I don't remember, somebody,
(56:43):
I don't remember how many it was. Now, so the
lady that was the stalker in this show is now
suing him because she says that she was described so
perfectly in the show, and if you've seen the show
and you see pictures of her, she was okay.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
So there's no doubt. I mean, it was like really
clear who this was.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
She's now suing because she says that he has slandered
her and now there's a lawsuit going on. But that
kind of stuff is going to happen more and more,
and now movie producers are having a hard time getting insurance.
Every film has what's called excuse me, I got the hiccups,
(57:23):
what's called errors and omissions insurance. It's very similar if
you're a professional. When I was a real estate are
insurance agent, I had errors and omissions insurance in case
I screwed up someone's insurance and then they sued me
and I could say it was just a mistake. Lots
of industries have errors and omissions insurance, but errors and
omissions insurance for movies has always been traditionally pretty affordable.
(57:44):
We're talking fifteen grand to cover up to five million dollars.
That's a very reasonable policy. Will those premiums have skyrocketed
as now these companies, these insurance companies, are having to
pay for attorneys and everything else. So this could actually
put a big damper on these kind of documentaries. So
here's what I need from you, guys. I need your
(58:05):
best true crime stories that you've watched as of late,
because I need to know some shows to watch before
we stop having these shows. Right, So, did you watch
Griselda Jeff, the docu drama starring Sophia Vigara.
Speaker 5 (58:17):
I didn't yet know.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
Oh, oh, that's a really good one.
Speaker 4 (58:19):
So Griselda is a drug lord from Columbia and Chuck
and I. In addition to watching the fictionalized accounts of
these horrible people, we also watched documentaries on these same people,
and the fictionalized version of Griselda, though wildly entertaining, totally
soft pedals the fact that this woman was evil and
(58:41):
murdered people herself on a regular basis. She killed her
first husband, she killed her second husband. I don't know
why anybody would keep marrying her. But yet she was
a horrible person. And Sophia Agara is super hot, so
they were like, well, she's not that bad, she's just misunderstood. No,
she was a horrible person. So I was trying to
think of what, which of these shows I need to see?
Speaker 3 (59:01):
So what have you seen lately? Jeff? Have you got
anything good for me? Did you watch the one on
the murder Case?
Speaker 5 (59:06):
I did?
Speaker 8 (59:06):
I've seen that one. Mostly we watched a lot of
Dateline when they're new.
Speaker 3 (59:11):
Oh yeah, but the.
Speaker 5 (59:13):
Good old Dateline twenty twenty stuff like that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
I like the fictionalized versions, and I'm trying to remember
the name of the one that I watched fairly recently
about the woman in Texas who murdered the wife of
a guy that she had had affair with. Jesse Emmons
is in it. He plays the guy that she has
an affair with, and I have to give it to him.
(59:36):
He's married to Jesse Plemmons. Sorry, wrong guy. Jesse Plemmons
is the guy who was on that. And I'm trying
to find the name of that right now, really quickly,
because he was very good in it. But that was
really good. And then I went back and I looked
up details about that crime and they only got some.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
Of it right.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
They didn't get all of it right. So Love and Death,
that's it with Elizabeth Olsen. Love and Death on HBO.
Watch that one. Super good, super super good. I need
you guys to text me true crime stuff that you
have not seen or you have seen. I just want
to know because I need more true crime stuff. Let's see,
(01:00:18):
let's do let's use the Google. So we've got Love
and Death. That's a good one. Best true crime movies, Okay,
here we go. Those are all old. I'm looking for
newer stuff. What I need to do is best True
Crime on Netflix and find out some good stuff. I
(01:00:39):
like true crime, and I wonder why, And I've thought
about this a lot, like what is it about true crime?
And some of these are horrible, Like I'll watch these
shows on serial Killers and they're just they're I don't
want to dehumanize someone else, but these people are not human.
They don't they don't they don't feel the same way
we feel. They don't have empathy, they don't have sympathy,
(01:01:00):
they don't have any of that stuff. So it's like,
do we watch it the same reason I watch Hoarders,
which is to feel better about my housekeeping, because why
else do you watch Hoarders?
Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
You know?
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I mean really, Hoarders is just a really scary show
in the grand scheme of things, because you'll see these
people that are like, oh, she was perfectly normal until
this happened, and then all of a sudden, she's living
under a pile of garbage and we can't see the floor,
and you think to yourself, oh my god, that could
be me. So whenever something happens, I always make sure
(01:01:32):
everything is nice and tidy. A lot of you are
saying American nightmare on Netflix, So what is American Nightmare
Now I have to I'm writing these down. By the way,
So American Nightmare. Oh, Mandy no Alec Baldwin insurance choke
eh eh, guess not Mandy. Worst roommate ever. Have you
(01:01:56):
ever heard of that one.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Jeff, I have.
Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yeah, good one.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
I also have watched American Nightmare. That's very good as well.
Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Yeah, because that's come up like four times on the Uh. Griselda,
she was the queen of the motorcycle drive by. She
was a horrible person. They think that Griselda actually killed
her first victim when she was ten years old. She
and two other teenagers kidnapped an eight year old boy
from a wealthy Colombian family to hold him hostage, and
then ended up killing him after they got the ransom.
(01:02:25):
Ten years old. They didn't put that in the movie
Griselda the Nun on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Haven't heard about that? The thing about Pam Oh. I
need you guys to tell me a little bit more
about what these are about. I'm writing them down, but
tell me what they're about, just briefly, just like a couple.
What is the logline and the TV guide?
Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
I mean like Griselda Colombian drug lord female takes over
the drug trade and motives along the way, something like that,
Like I need to know what that is. I hope
you're not using Google for search. They censor you. Well,
sometimes I do.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Today.
Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
I often go to multiple search engines DDG or Brave. Okay,
dirty Pop the boy band scam? Is that about that
guy in Orlando? I want to know, because I Okay,
Lou Pearlman was his name. Do you have you ever
heard of Luke Pearlman, Jeff, because that was like the
he was the guy who created all a lot of
(01:03:23):
nineties boy bands.
Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
I have, Yeah, that one's actually in the queue right
now for the White.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Oh really, dirty Pop? Is that about Lou Pearl Pearlman?
Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
I believe so.
Speaker 8 (01:03:31):
I believe it's about some of the grimy things that
went on behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Do you want to hear my Lou Pearlman story from
when I lived in Orlando, so everybody knew who he was, right,
And I am downtown in Orlando Friday night, Saturday night, whatever,
it was a night I was out with all my
friends and I'm standing in a street corner waiting for
the light to turn so I can walk across. And
there's a guy in front of me, a larger man,
and his pants are shoved completely up his crack, right,
(01:03:59):
you know what I'm saying, them out they're bunched up there,
and I don't mean a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I mean they're way up there. And I had been
drinking and.
Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
I decided I was going to reach down and you know,
give his pants a tug.
Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Help the dude out.
Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
And I go to reach down to grab his pants,
and my friend smacked my hand and I went hey,
and he turned around and it was Lou Pearlman. So
I almost pulled Lou Pearlman's pants out of his butt crack.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
My friend would not let me do that.
Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Have you ever done that? Like if someone's in front
of me in line? This happened to me once at
Disney were a little window in the world of Mandy.
Someone in front of me was wearing longer shorts, so
they weren't like butt shorts, they were longer shorts, and
they had a cuff at the bottom, and the cuff
was flipped down and it was making me insane. So
I waited until I thought I could do it. I
just reached down and flipped the cuff up, got away
with it. They didn't even know You're welcome. My friends
(01:04:54):
are like, what is wrong with you? I can't stand it,
can't stand it anyway, let's see American Nightmare coming up again.
First forty eight is really good. But that's not callig
When First forty eight is about solving a crime, right,
they get to the murder, they talk to everybody, and
then they solve the crime. I'm talking about more of
the psychological deep dive about why the crime happened in
(01:05:16):
the first place.
Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
That's what I like.
Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Let's see here The Highwayman with Kevin Oh, I've seen that.
That's about Bonnie and Clyde Mandy. I've seen them all.
Best doc on Netflix is Don't f with Cats. Okay,
that's a good one, is it?
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
What's that about?
Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
That is a really weird one. It's it takes turns
that you wouldn't even expect. When you start watching it,
you're like, why am I? I don't expect this at all?
But it's crazy, It's really crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
But what is it about? Is it about cat murderers?
Speaker 8 (01:05:46):
Yeah, it's about a group of Internet sleuths who basically
track down this person who is doing these crimes. Basically,
it's but it's these internet salutes who It's a whole,
it's a whole, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
So Mandy kind of a tangent. But if like me,
you are a big Keith Morrison Dateline fan, you have
to see Bill Hayter's old SML impression of Morrison surely
on YouTube. Brought tears to my eyes laughing. It is very,
very funny.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I have seen that.
Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I like the British procedurals, British cop shows. I know
they're speaking English, but at times I have to turn
on subtitles. My latest was A Good Girl's Guide to
Murder on Netflix. That's a good one. I've started watching that,
but I haven't finished it. Mandy watching real court trials
like the murder trial and the one here in Colmorado
with Letitia Stouch she killed her step son. Those are
(01:06:37):
really interesting too. I just don't have that time to commit,
you know, I don't have the kind of time to
watch a trial because it's usually happening during my show.
Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Maybe when I retire.
Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Let's see, Mandy not necessarily a crime show, but I
started watching on the History Channel, Alcatraz, Escape, the Lost Evidence.
Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
The Piketon massacre or what is that about? You guys
got to tell me what these things are about. I
don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
I don't really want to watch them. That's a massacre anyway?
Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
All about Pam? Did we get that one already? What
is all about? All about Pam?
Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Yeah, is Renee Zellweger housewife wants more money? Frames a
neighbor who goes to jail and truth is discovered by
TV program.
Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
Wow, it was actually a big date line one.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
That one that was a date line one.
Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
They actually she was.
Speaker 8 (01:07:31):
Basically obsessed with she was on dateline and she couldn't
help herself and it was eventually interviewed by Keith Morrison
and she gets found out basically.
Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Oh, I have to watch that one. Okay, I'm gonna
be back in just a second because I'm late. But
we've got way more of these to do.
Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
We'll be right back. Crime movies, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Those are all old. I'm looking for newer stuff. What
I need to do is best true crime on Netflix
and find out some good stuff. I like true crime
and I wonder why. And I've thought about this a lot,
like what is it about true crime? And some of
these are horrible, Like I'll watch these shows on serial
killers and they're just they're I don't want to dehumanize
(01:08:20):
someone else, but these people are not human. They don't
they don't they don't feel the same way we feel.
They don't have empathy, they don't have sympathy, they don't
have any of that stuff. So it's it's like, do
we watch it the same reason I watch Hoarders, which
is to feel better about my housekeeping, because why else
do you watch Hoarders?
Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
You know?
Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I mean really, Hoarders is just a really scary show
in the grand scheme of things, because you'll see these people.
They're like, oh, she was perfectly normal until this happened,
and then all of a sudden, she's living under a
pile of garbage and we can't see the floor, and
you think to yourself, oh my god, that could be me.
So whenever something happens, I always make sure every thing
(01:09:00):
is nice and tidy. A lot of you are saying
American nightmare on Netflix?
Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
So what is American nightmare?
Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
I have to I'm writing these down by the way,
so American Nightmare. Oh, Mandy no Alec Baldwin insurance choke
eh eh, guess not Mandy worst roommate ever?
Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Have you ever heard of that one, Jeff, I have.
Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
That's a good one. That's a fah good one.
Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
I also have watched American Nightmare. That's very good as well.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Yeah, because that's come up like four times on the Uh. Griselda,
she was the queen of the motorcycle drive by. She
was a horrible person. They think that Griselda actually killed
her first victim when she was ten years old. She
and two other teenagers kidnapped an eight year old boy
from a wealthy Colombian family to hold him hostage, and
then ended up killing him after they got the ransom.
(01:09:53):
Ten years old. They didn't put that in the movie
Griselda the Nun on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
What is that? I haven't heard about that? The thing
about Pam.
Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
I need you guys to tell me a little bit
more about what these are about. I'm writing them down,
but tell me what they're about, just briefly, just like
a couple. What is the log line and the TV guide?
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 9 (01:10:13):
Like Griselda Colombian drug lord. Female takes over the drug
trade and motives it on the way something like that,
like I need to know what that is. I hope
you're not using Google for search. They censor you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
All. Sometimes I do today.
Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
I often go to multiple search engines DDG or Brave. Okay,
dirty Pop? The boy band scam? Is that about that
guy in Orlando? I want to know, because I Okay,
Lou Pearlman was his name. Do you have you ever
heard of Luke Pearlman, Jeff? Because that was like the
he was the guy who created all a lot of
(01:10:51):
nineties boy bands.
Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
I have, Yeah, that one's actually in the queue right
now for the white.
Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Oh really, dirty Pop? Is that about Lou Peerlman?
Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
I believe so.
Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
I believe it's about some of the the grimy things
that went on behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Do you want to hear my Lou Pearlman story from
when I lived in Orlando, so everybody knew who he was, right,
And I am downtown in Orlando Friday night, Saturday night,
whenever it was a night, I was out with all
my friends and I'm standing in a street corner waiting
for the light to turn. So I could rock across,
and there's a guy in front of me, a larger man,
and his pants are shoved completely up his crack, right,
(01:11:26):
you know what I'm talking about. They're bunched up there,
and I don't mean a little bit. I mean they're
way up there. And I had been drinking and I
decided I was going to reach down and, you know,
give his pants a tug, help the dude out. And
I go to reach down to grab his pants, and
my friend smacked my hand and I went hey, and
(01:11:48):
he turned around and it was Lou Pearlman. So I
almost pulled Lou Pearlman's pants out of his butt crack.
Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
My friend would not let me do that. Have you
ever done that?
Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Like if someone's in front of me in line? This
happened to me once at Disney were a little window
in the world of Mandy. Someone in front of me
was wearing longer shorts, so they weren't like butt shorts,
they were longer shorts, and they had a cuff at
the bottom, and the cuff was flipped down and it
was making me insane. So I waited until I thought
I could do it. I just reached down and flipped
the cuff up got away with it. They didn't even
know You're welcome. My friends are like, what is wrong
(01:12:22):
with you? I can't stand it. I can't stand it. Anyway,
let's see American Nightmare coming up again. First forty eight
is really good, but that's not call you when First
forty eight is about solving a crime, right, they get
to the murder, they talked to everybody, and then they
solved the crime. I'm talking about more of the psychological
deep dive about why the crime happened in the first place.
Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
That's what I like. Let's see here the Highwayman with Kevin.
Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
I've seen that. That's about Bonnie and Clyde Mandy, I've
seen them all. Best dock on Netflix is Don't f
with Cats?
Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Okay, that's good, is it? What's that about?
Speaker 8 (01:13:01):
That is a really weird one. It's it takes turns
that you wouldn't even expect. When you start watching it,
you're like, why am I? I don't expect this at all?
But it's crazy, It's really crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
But what is it about? Is it about cat murderers?
Speaker 8 (01:13:13):
Yeah, it's about a group of Internet salutes who basically
track down this person who is doing these crimes basically,
but it's but it's these internet salutes.
Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Who it's a whole it's a whole thing. It's a
whole thing.
Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
So Mandy kind of a tangent.
Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
But if like me, you are a big Keith Morrison
Dateline fan, you have to see Bill Hayter's old SML
impression of Morrison surely on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Brought tears to my eyes laughing. It is very, very funny.
I have seen that.
Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
I like the British procedurals, British cop shows. I know
they're speaking English, but at times I have to turn
on subtitles. My latest was A Good Girl's Guide to
Murder on Netflix. That's a good one. I've started watching that,
but I haven't. I haven't finished it. Mandy watching real
court trials like the murder trial and the one here
in Colorado with Letitia Stouch she killed her step son.
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Those are really interesting too.
Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
I just don't have that time to commit, you know,
I don't have the kind of time to watch a
trial because it's usually happening during my show.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Maybe when I retire.
Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Let's see, Mandy not necessarily a crime show, but I
started watching on the History channel Alcatraz escape the lost evidence.
There we go. The Piketon massacre? What is that about?
You guys got to tell me what these things are about.
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I don't really want to watch them. That's a massacre anyway.
All about Pam? Did we get that one already? What
is all all about Pam?
Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Yeah, is Renee Zellweger housewife wants more money frames a
neighbor who goes to jail and truth is discovered by
TV program.
Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Wow, it was actually a big date line one.
Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
That one.
Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
That was a dateline one.
Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
They actually she was.
Speaker 8 (01:14:58):
Basically obsessed with she was on dateline and she couldn't
help herself and it was eventually interviewed by Keith Morrison
and then she gets found out basically, Oh I have.
Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
To watch that one.
Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Okay, I'm going to be back in just a second
because I'm late, but we've got way more of these
to do.
Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Bad news at the markets today, since I only have
a minute. The markets have crashed today, one thousand down
on the Dow S and P down one and almost
one hundred and seventy four, Nasdaq down six hundred and
twenty four all on recession fears. Today, the markets all
around the world are roiling. It's not good news for
(01:15:36):
the Biden Harris administration, who have been running around telling
us that everything is fine and from CNBC. The call
came in the form of a sell off that saw
the Dow Jones lose more than twelve hundred points in
early trading Monday and briefly put the S and P
five hundred down nine percent.
Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Treasury yields tumbled.
Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Concerns over the state of the economy became Thursday.
Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Began Thursday when.
Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Disappointing data on manuforing and layoffs fueled concern Those were
exacerbated Friday when the Labor Department reported lower than expected
job creation numbers and rising unemployment rate in July that
triggered a reliable recession signal known as the Psalm rule. Soon,
traders began pricing in aggressive FED rate cuts after expecting
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the Central Bank to do little the rest of the year. Indeed,
policymakers were not far from the investors' minds as sentiment
grew that the FED is waiting too long to ease
short term benchmark barring rates, which currently sit at twenty
three year highs market pricing Monday implied a near certainty
that the FED would cut a half a percentage point
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at at September meeting and followed out with reductions in
November and December that would total one point twenty five
percentage points. Not a good day on the market. Just
don't look at your four one k. Nothing to see here, people,
and it will probably go down a little more before
the market correction is over. Let's not panic, Let's keep
our heads about us, and we will be right back
after the news trafficking weather.
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Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Lot of stories on the blog today that we haven't
gotten to you today, but I want to get some
of them. Do you ever see a headline and you
think to yourself, what I saw this today? And apparently
Fort Collins, which Fort Collins is a college town. I'm
not going to call it sleepy, but you know it's
Fort Collins for crime and E's Sake, breweries like cool restaurants,
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college students. So when I saw this headline, I was like,
what is happening? Fort Collins Police investigating gang feud related shootings.
Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
I don't spend a lot of time in Fort Collins.
Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
I've been there exactly twice since I've been in Colorado
because it is far for me.
Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
And but is this a thing?
Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Do we don have gangs in Fort Collins that we
don't know about that are basically standing in the street
shooting things up?
Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
And if so, what kind of gangs are there?
Speaker 6 (01:19:34):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
This is really interesting. I want to share this point.
Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
So the first gang incident happened on July thirtieth in
a neighborhood near the downtown business district. Officers reported that
fifteen to twenty hand gun rounds were shot in the area,
striking and damaging multiple buildings, vehicle, and property. There were
no injuries during the incident, but evidence has led to
two people facing attempted murder charge. One of them is
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being held on a five hundred thousand dollars cash bond,
the other one is still at large. Another shooting was
reported on Friday, August second in the same general area
with multiple rounds fired.
Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Now listen to this. Anyone with information is.
Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Asked to call for Collins Police detective justin whatever additional
charges are anticipated from this investigation, and the suspects were
intentionally not named to prevent any notoriety. The agency credited
the success of their investigation to the numerous individuals who
came forward with information and the location of different pieces
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of evidence. Now let me go back to this. We
don't want to give people notoriety, So you're not giving
us notoriety, but you're not really giving us any information.
Where are these gangs from? Are they gangs of old
women who are angry about stuff, who are beating people
about the head and neck with their purse? Are they
gangs from outside the country? Are they gangs from inside
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the country? Are they men? Are they women? Are they white?
Are they black? Or they Hispanic?
Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
This is like the.
Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Worst BOLO in the history of the world. BOLO of
course standing for be on the lookout. I feel like
this just there's way more questions here than there are answers.
But if you know anything about gangs and Fort Collins,
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Thank you, and to.
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The person who sent lots great great answer, but wrong,
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because as soon as you speak to the winner, I
will announce the correct answer, because I hate it when
we give a trivia question forget to give the answer,
and you guys never let me forget it. So as
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we will announce that answer. But if you have not
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it's already gone, already gone. So there you go. If
you know anything about the Fort Collins gang problem, you
can text me now.
Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
I have a bunch of stuff on the blog today
about what's happening in Israel. I mentioned last week that
Israel went into Iran went into Beirut and.
Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Killed high, highly important people.
Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
One was the head of the Iranian Republic Guard Aerospace Division.
He was the one that launched the attacks against Israel
and they murdered him in Beirut. And the political head
of Hamas was in Tehran attending the inauguration of the
new figurehead president there and they took him out in
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a guest house. They planted a bomb two months ago,
wait until they confirmed he was there and blew it up.
And now he is DRT as they say right in
you know in law enforcement, that's dead right there.
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
DRT.
Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Well, Ron is not taking this lying down, as you
can imagine. And now they have promised revenge. They are
going to attack Israel. Hezbolah has already fired rockets into Israel.
They have also fired rockets at American forces in Iraq
and Syria. We have bases in both Iraq and Syria.
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They have fired rockets into those compounds. Apparently we have
struck back by firing into Iran. This is not this
is not that good use this, this is not really
that good news. Though I do believe that we will
never have peace in the Middle East until we dismantle
the Iranian regime. And everyone not everyone, Okay, so let's
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line up.
Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Let's see here. Let me let me pull this up
right now.
Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Which Middle Eastern countries are Shia because the Shia are
generally allied with Iran. So you've got Iran, Iraq, Bahrain,
Azerbaijan and Yemen. Those are the Shia, and then the
Sunnis are Saudi Arabia. Hang on one second, let me
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make sure I get this right. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt.
Soon he's make up ninety percent or more of the
population in those three countries. So Israel, of course, not
either of those things, although many Muslims and Arabs live
in Israel, enjoying more freedoms than they enjoy in other
Muslim countries.
Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
But we've got these these, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
I'm sure Saudi Arabia, maybe Egypt, although I have no
confidence in Egypt's military.
Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
They just seem like idiots to me.
Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Jordan has been really upset about the Palestinian situation, but
I think they'd like to see heron taken down a peg.
Now what's interesting, and I have this on the blog today,
is that Times Square was taken over by pro Hamas protesters.
And before you tell me, no, Mandy, they're protesting for
the Palestinian people.
Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
No they are not.
Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
They are speaking about their murdyers, the people from Hamas
who were murdered by Israel. They are calling to bring
the Intafada worldwide. Now we all know if you know,
you should know that the end Offada was actually a
wave of violence perpetrated against the Israeli people back in
the seventies, where that was when all the suicide bombers
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would walk into a pizza place full of children and
families and blow themselves up.
Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
That's the Indefada.
Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
And so there are people in Times Square actively calling
for the destruction of America. I'm surprised they didn't chant
death to America because we are the great Satan along
with Israel right in Iran, and these people are obviously
supporting that regime. I would love it if there was
a way to just like scoop everybody up and before
they had a chance to do anything, put them on
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a charter flight, send them to Iran.
Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
You want to live in that go right ahead, here
you go. Let's make that happen. Sentence them to living
in Iran. That would be amazing. That'd be so cool,
Like best day ever. Anyway, Ralph says, we won't have
peace in the world until we eliminate Islam harsh. But
there's no coexisting with them now. You know, here's the thing, Ralph,
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and I get where you're coming from, because it seems
difficult to make that happen, But there are so many
practicing Muslims that are not trying to create a caliphate.
They really believe that they are practicing the religion of peace.
And just like the Christian religion has gone through the Reformation,
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has gone through various stages since the beginning of Christianity,
Islam just needs a reformation, and they did a reformation
that says, you know what, we should probably just get
along with people who don't, you know, practice our faith.
We should probably just leave them alone, and they leave
us alone and we all go about our merry way.
I would just say, so, is this intafada like what
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was going on in the UK over the weekend. I'm
not going to pretend I'm up to speed on that.
Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
I saw a news.
Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
Story about it today, but I had so much other
stuff I didn't really pay attention, not really pay attention
at all. We got to take a break. I'm bad
on my breaks today. I don't know why keep it
right here, I'll be right back. I'm making a blog
posting on all of the true crime stories that we
talked about earlier.
Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
If you missed that, you missed it.
Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Got a lot of stuff on the blog today that
we have not gotten to and I want to get
this really quickly. So in what should give you all
a warm and fuzzy feeling. The Department of Justice will
again in this election cycle, be notifying social media companies
of what they call misinformation. Now, why should it be
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remotely worried about this? Well, the Justice Department in the
last election cycle meddled in the election by saying things
like that Hunter Biden laptop that was Russian misinformation. Oh yeah,
the Department of Justice. I don't trust them and their misinformation.
I'm just going to tell you this. I'm gonna recommend
this one thing. If you want to follow politics on
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social media right now, the only place to do that
is on x Elon Musk has committed to free speech.
And now when somebody posts something outrageous, immediately someone posts
at community notes and everybody starts piling on with corrections.
Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
It is magical. It is so good.
Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
And all you have to do if you want to
have an X account, and you've not ever had an
X account, you don't know what to do. You find
people that you want to follow on both sides of
the aisle, and you'll know pretty quick if they're crazy
or not, and then unfollow people. I mean, you can
curate your timeline, but I think x is going to
be the only platform that when the Justice Department calls,
they're like, yeah, whatever, we don't care. Will allow people
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to make their own decisions. So I am not happy
at all about this. I think this is terrible. Deputy
Attorney General Lisa Monico told lawyers at a conference on
Friday that she said, we will provide companies with actionable
intelligence so they can make decisions regarding abuse on their platforms,
my adversaries conducting foreign malign influence operations, including targeting our elections.
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How about fifty one former intelligence offers officers who signed
a letter that was a lie?
Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
How about those people?
Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
Are you gonna inform those people as well? I'm I'm
just asking, just you know, just curious. And by the way,
for the text, who said, Hi, Mandy, miss your segment
with the words with Charles, may he rest in peace?
Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
I can't remember his last name? Was it Elster Ellington?
Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
It was Charles?
Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Wait a minute, Charles.
Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
Oh my gosh, I wish I hadn't read that. Now
I couldn't tell you Charles Elster is his name E L. S. T. E. R.
Charles Harrington Elster. Woof got that out, Charles Harrington Elster
and we all miss him every single month where we
don't have him anymore, Mandy, Given all that has gone.
Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
On in this story, I have to wait for the
other day.
Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
But Toko, the human colleague in Japan, has a friend
someone who'd dress up like an Alaskan malamute. I can
only imagine what their fantasies are, but I don't want
to know. And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen,
your furry story for the day will be right back.
Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Mandy.
Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
Not long ago, I posted the iconic photo of Trump
standing with his fist in the air, blood streaming down
his face, with the American flag in the background, just
after the assassination attempt. Well, just a couple of days ago,
I received a notice from Facebook stating my post just
the photo was determined to be false by independent fact checkers.
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What it went on to tell me about the consequences
of posting false information. I'm wondering if any of your
other listeners had a similar experience that from Andy. So
if you have posted that and you know what I'm
gonna do right now. You know, I'm gonna post it
on my Trump photo. Fist up. Let's see here, let's
(01:30:55):
see what we get. Oh no, no, no, Butler, see
if that brings me the post. Okay, I'm looking for
the post with the flag behind it, but all of
the pictures have they Oh here it is right here.
There we go, and know it's a CNN photo. Perfect,
even better, even better, so I can visit CNN and
(01:31:19):
let me grab this. You know, I'm gonna go put
it on my Facebook page now now that you said that,
and I'm going to put it on my Facebook page
and see if it gets flagged by Facebook. I know
that Facebook, and and honestly the Internet was trying to
make that go away, and we're unable to make it
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go away completely.
Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
I also know that the Microsoft bing was it? Bing
was it?
Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
And one of the ais refused to admit that the
president had been shot in any way, shape or form.
So let's you know, it's just a little bit of
the nineteen eighty four stuff we're living through right now.
So if anybody else has had that happen, let me know.
Five six six nine, Oh there you go. I was
supposed to get Aerosmith tickets for winning a contest on
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Mandy's show. Now that their tour is canceled, Can I
get something else?
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Are saying?
Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
Dream on send me an email Mandyconnell at iHeartMedia dot com.
Like to just send me an email Mandyconnell at iHeartMedia
dot com. I make no promises. I don't control that,
so yeah, I don't know. I don't know the rules
around that, but I'll see what I can do. So
lots of stuff on the blog today that I want
to get, but I have to talk about something.
Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
That's not important, but it's really funny. So today on.
Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
The store, on the blog, I have a story and
I'm not let me just read you the headline. Team
boys all seem to want a broccoli haircut?
Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
This were our friends at Fox thirty one. I'm just
gonna read you the story. It's that magical. You may
not have heard of the broccoli cut, but if you've
spent any time around teenagers lately, you've definitely seen it.
The haircut, so named for its closely shaved sides and
its curly abundance up top, is in high demand for
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gen Z. It goes by a few equally other ridiculous names,
including the bird's nest, the zoomer perm, and even alpaca
teen Jim brow hair. I kind of love love love
Alpaca teen Jim brow hair. This stylis says it's achieved
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by cutting the hair in short, uneven layers that resemble
the florets of a broccoli. The side can can be
completely buzz cut short or shaved very close to the
scalp like a fade. The look not to be confused
with the Edgar cut.
Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
I don't know what the Edgar cut is. I didn't
click through to see.
Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
That is easier to achieve for those with curly hair,
but those with straight hair can pull it off with
little help. Teen boys as young as thirteen are increasingly
seeking out perm to get the broccoli cut. Ay, yeah, yeah,
the broccoli cut.
Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
The Edgar is a bowl cut meets a Caesar cut,
and it's hugely popular among young Latinos, especially in California,
Texas and Florida.
Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Now why do I bring this up?
Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
So today I had to take my sophomore in high
school to her school for check in day, right, and
it's one of those where you justs go and she
gets her id and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
It's no big deal. But I, you know, I go
and every boy.
Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
At that school has this incredibly unfortunate haircut. And I
just want to say this to the moms and dads
out there who have these boys with his haircut. Hats
off to you, ladies and gentlemen for not fighting about this.
People who fight with their kids about hairstyles. I do
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not understand this, because hair will grow back. Until some
of these young men when they get to be twenty,
twenty five, thirty thirty five.
Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
It won't grow back. But just saying right now, hair
will grow back.
Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
And I really truly believe in my heart of hearts
that every person has to have a haircut they regret.
Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
I grew up in the eighties, so you know that
I have haircuts I regret. I rocked a mullet in
ninth grade. Oh yeah, it was like the coolest, trendiest
haircut of ninth grade.
Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
I went down Here's what it was.
Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
I lived in a very small town in northern Florida,
and then I went down to Fort Lauderdale to visit
my aunt, and she had a nail salon and her
hairstylist was this fabulous man named Jimmy, and he came
over and he cut my hair and he gave me
a mullet and it was the cutest thing you ever saw.
And I came back home and everybody was like, Oh
my gosh, your hair is so cool.
Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
It's so cool.
Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
And to the person who said, Mandy Brocolcut's equals Show Bob,
that's actually in the blog today because that's the first
thing I thought of, was that they all have side
Show Bob hair. Mandy, do you remember rattail haircuts? Yes,
yes I do. I do, Texter, I do remember that embarrassment.
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So I'm wondering, what is your haircut that you regret?
What is your hairstyle that you regret. I'm not paying
for a perm, says this person. I'm not sitting through
another perm. I got a perm one time from a
guy who used to cut hair with a python around
his neck, and I am not making that up. So
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he would be cutting your hair and the snake would
like lift its head up and kind of bring its
head kind of near you and do the tongue thing
like that thing you know what I'm talking about, like
right by your ear. It was miserable, but he was
supposed to be the best in town, so I went
to him because it was the eighties and we all
got perms. So we put these rods in my hair,
and if you never had a perm, the entire experience
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is miserable. They put these really really small plastic rollers
in your hair, and they put them in there so
tightly that your hair is all being pulled, and then
they coat your head in a chemical that smells like
you're pretty sure that you were over some kind of
burn pit after the you know, Iraq war, and it's disgusting,
and you have to sit there for like forty five minutes,
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and then they tell you, oh, you can't wash your
hair for twenty four to forty eight hours, so then
you have to live with a stink for twenty four
to forty eight hours. But you know, when they take
the rods out, your hair is still kind of wet.
So the guy takes the rods out and my hair
is so fried that it looks like it looks like
poodle fur on my head, and I just looked at
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him and I was like, I'm not paying you for this,
and he said, oh, you can come back in a
couple of days when it relaxes and pay me.
Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Then you'll love it. You'll love it. You'll love it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
So I cry all the way home, and I'm not
ashamed to admit it because it was that bad.
Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
It was so bad.
Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
And I got back to my apartment and I ran
in the apartment and I slammed the bedroom door, and
my roommate, who was also my best friend since fourth grade,
she comes to the door and she's like, manny, Mandy,
it can't be that bad. It's not that bad. I'm crying.
I'm like, my hair is ruined. She's like, no, oh,
and by the way, my hair is really long too.
So I'm crying and she's just opened the door. And
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I opened the door and she audibly gasped and went,
oh my god. And then we both cried. And then
I cut all my hair off, So there you go. Oh,
Jerry curls. That was a bold choice. Perms are hot
for hairstylists now. Broccoli cuts are all over Europe. Patrick
Mahomes started this, Oh, my goodness, I think you're right.
(01:38:42):
I think you're I think you are absolutely right, Mandy.
All the team boys these days make them look like Llamas.
I had a rattail in middle school and a wave
that was hair sprayed back so much that it did
not budge until I got it wet in the shower.
Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
I am now so very ball bald.
Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
Excuse me, mullet with a perm in the back on
my engagement photo in nineteen ninety one, Billy Ray Cyrus
called he wants his look back Texter Edgar. According to this,
Texter is used a lot in Pueblo, and unfortunately lots
of them were gang members in troubled youth.
Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
So it makes it scary for.
Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
Parents for those whose kids can be mistaken, but for
as gang members by law enforcement. Yeah, I would imagine.
So toss up between perm and the little Dutch boy.
Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Actually I had a boyfriend in my early twenties, so
that was thirty years ago, in like nineteen ninety two,
and he had super super curly, natural, naturally curly hair.
It was really actually very pretty hair. But he had
the broccoli cut. We just didn't know it was called
that Mandy. Facebook admitted the mistake regarding the Trump photo
from a New York Post headline. Facebook admits it wrongly
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censored iconic photo of bleeding Trump pumping his fist after
being shot. Uh, this was an error that from John
and Pueblo. You'll get your hair cut by a snake guy,
but you're scared of lizards. Technically I'm scared. I'm not
scared of lizards. I just don't like lizards, and I
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don't like iguanas. They're the ones bigger the lizard the
less I like them, just because one got caught in
my hair when it was permed. So yeah, and snakes
don't bother me. Really, my son had a snake for
a long time. Snake plit skin was this snake Mandy
my senior year in nineteen eighty two, I got a perm.
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My kids just love to dig out that picture. How
much AquaNet did you need in the eighties? How much
do you have because that's how we rolled?
Speaker 9 (01:40:45):
Or pretty?
Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
I'm I just I feel like I should apologize to
the world for the ozone layer hole because I know
I had something to do with that completely o MG.
My son wanted a perm and now I know, Yeah,
don't do it, mom, let him pay for it. Oh,
this person, the reverse mohawk was a horrible idea. Wait
a minute, reverse mohawk. Now, wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
I know what the faux hawk is.
Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
The faux hawk is just where you shave everything but
just a strip of you know, hair in the middle.
And actually, I have a story on the blog today.
Someone needs to check on Ben Affleck because Ben Affleck,
you know, he and his marriage is uh is on
the rocks and he and Jay Low are splitting up,
and pictures have been taken of him and he's wearing
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a black leather jacket and he's got a faux hawk,
and someone needs to have an intervention because that man
is over fifty and he looks like a walking mid
life crisis right now.
Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
And it's bad. It's really bad.
Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
Mandy, you may be too young, but I rocked to
Dorothy hamilcut not inspiring.
Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
I'd like you to know that.
Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
In nineteen seventy six, after the Olympics, my mom cut
both my sister and my hair in the Dorothy hamilcut.
It did have nice movement, but really nobody looked good
in that hair except Dorothy Hamil, and we all wore it.
We all wore it. Perm worked on the right side
of my head. Only the stylist told me it was
my fault due to a B twelve deficiency. That is
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the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Hi, Mandy,
I wanted my hair dyed blonde. Stylists turned me away
from the mirror and dyed it red.
Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
It was awful. I too have had red hair.
Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
I've had my hair every color, and I'm not even kidding,
I mean every normal color.
Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
And I dyed my hair red.
Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
And the guy with the broccoli hair was dating him,
and we were at dinner one night and I go
to the bathroom and come back and he is on
the floor laughing, and I was like, what now, I'm
twenty five years old at this point, not even I'm
like twenty three years old at this point. And he
said when I walked away, the waitress asked if his
mom wanted to refill on her drink.
Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
So I went back to get the red taken out.
Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
That was like a multi step process that fried my
hair for years. Got talked under a relaxed perm ended
up looking like Richard Simmons nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Thanks mom.
Speaker 9 (01:43:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
I hate to admit it. I rocked a ponytail for years.
I cringed when I see old picks. I'm a guy,
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
It's okay.
Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
This is what I'm talking about. All these young men
with a broccoli cut. They are now going to have
a hairstyle to be embarrassed about that they can show
to their kids and say, look see how dumb I was.
The dumb just came flying out at the top of
my head. Hey Mandy, I just did a little bit,
a little tidbit. But Kei for Sutherland, came out and
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said that he invented the mullet while filming the movie
Lost Boys. He even apologized for doing so. Lol, I'm
not gonna kid you guys. Some well, let's look good.
Some are kind of cute, but most of them don't.
And it's just not it's not it's not good bad.
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Here in nineteen eighties high school for US rat Tail