08-09-24 FULL SHOW - The Trial of The Century Update, Plus Dealing with Trauma

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandyconnell on KOLA.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 4 (00:15):
Got Beady Ken, then Nicey Pray by Connald Keith sad Day.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome, well, welcome to a Friday edition of the show altogether.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Now, yes, there is.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
As air worn.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
All of them on a Friday, because that's how we
do it here on The Mandy Connell Show.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
And boy do we have a big show plan. Let
me get right to the blog.

Speaker 6 (00:51):
Because we got.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Stuff, We got things, We got stuff and things because
coming up at twelve fifteen, we had a chance yesterday
after the show to catch up with Justin Stronaut.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
What a nice young like just a nice young man.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
And we had Ross and I.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
A few minutes with him, and I asked sports questions
and Ross asked interesting questions. So there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
We're gonna play that at twelve fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
And at twelve fifteen, someone who is going to be
listening to that interview very carefully is going to win
the opportunity to win Broncos season tickets by getting entered
for that drawing.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
And they're gonna do it after we talk about the Olympics.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
Don dun duh.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I had my Olympic shirt I got on at the
Olympic Training Center Team USA today because Sunday is the
closing games and I'm devastated. My life is just going
to be an empty shell.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
And two years from now you'll be all right.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I know, but I like the.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Summer Games better than the Winter Games by a lot.
I've realized this the Summer Games. I love the Summer
Games now right.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
After the Winter Games are over, ask me the same
question and we'll see. Because it also could be it's
just the proximity.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Okay, let's go to the.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Blog the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's
mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Look in the latest post section for a headline that
says eight nine twenty four blog the Trial of the
Century update plus dealing with Trauma. Click on that and
here are the headlines you will find within anything.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
Withs in Office, half of American All with ships and
clipments of SATs Gona Press plant.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Today on the blog, Jimmy Singenberger has been watching the
Tana Peters trial. We shotted with Justin Sternaud yesterday. Don't
take your trauma online. I've got a whole new slew
of Mandy Connell songs. El Elon Musk just got an
anti conservative ad service. Shut down three cops who deserve
to be fired. Where will the married cherry creakers go

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to hook up?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Now?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Trump VI Kamala is happening. September tenth. Trump had a
press conference yesterday. COVID isn't as deadly anymore. Don't take
these shroom products.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
TJ.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Miller takes on the Colorado Mini Harmonica posse Denver is
looking for a sixteenth Street mall tenants. How Colorado dems
are stealing our table refunds. It's not cpw's fault. We
have wolves now.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Credit card debt is rising, a horrible account of bottom surgery.
The singularity is right around the corner. The Paris Olympic
medals are not holding up. Bitter X teammates or real
trouble in the locker room. Exposure to vpas in plastic
could cause autism. Tgif airbody climate change on trial sales

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of pink fishing poles to explode.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
Kamala reminds us all.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
To stay woke.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
No, Steve Martin won't play tim Walls, even though Tim
Walls is their daddy now, which is weird because Walls
defined pedophilia as a sexual orientation. One thing he does
love is anti semites, baby names that have gone too far.
The family of an explorer who died on the Titans
of Merciful is suing culture, shock of people who moved away.
And that video of our interview with Justin's Sernaud yesterday.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Those are the headlines in OMG.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
There's a lot of them. I'm dizzy, I'm out of breath.
I had to go too far. You're a breath the band, I.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Know, I know, it'll be fine. He's probably just passed out,
you knoweah exactly, Yeah, slightly, it's fine. I mean we
we overworked the band, but we only overworked them.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
A little bit. Needs to see path exactly, Yep, yep. Correct.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
So on the show today in about five minutes, we're
going to play that interview at Justin'strenaud from camp yesterday.
That was a hoot and holler yesterday, a rod, I've
discovered something.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Being a being a co.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Host is easy. You know, you shows one person you
don't work exactly. That's exactly what I was getting at yes,
I just plopped down. Ross says, oh here, let's talk
about this, and then I just blah blah, and then
it's boom, I'm out.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
That crazy in depth math science nonsense nerdiness was for
like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
That honestly made my made my brain hurt. It made
my brain hurt. And then all last night I was
thinking about a question now that I have things like, well,
how do you make a cubit?

Speaker 6 (05:04):
We didn't even get into that. You were the Zach
galafanak as mean, with all the numbers of the from
the Hangover. Yes, that is it.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
That is where I was yesterday, and it stuck with
me all day and made me feel a little bit
dumber for it too.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
So we're gonna play that at twelve fifteen.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
And remember, at some point you're gonna hear us talk
about the Olympics caller number four at three oh.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Three seven one, three eighty five eighty five. At that
point he's gonna be registered to win a pair of
Broncos season tickets, and you're gonna have another chance to
win those in KOI Sports.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
So that is happening now now.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Jimmy Singenberger, he writes for the Denver Gazette. He fills
in on radio stations and he is an all round
nice guy. I have tasked him and asked him, uh,
he did not ask for compensation, and I think maybe
I need to help him work on his negotiating skills
because I said, Jimmy, can you watch the trial for
me and then we'll we'll report on it on Friday,
and you like, He's like, yeah, okay, fine.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well now I think maybe I got the short end.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Of the stick because this thing is like a lifetime
movie episode. It's crazy, it's absolutely nuts. And we did
find out Tina Peters did say something that was absolutely
true to her co conspirator, who then testified against her
in court. She said, I'm blanked. Yes, Tina, you are

(06:18):
absolutely blanked completely. So we're going to talk to Jimmy
at two thirty, and then I'm very interested to talk
to doctor Gregory Chance. He has written a book called
Triumph Over Trauma, and he is going to come on
to any We're going to talk about the seven signs
of unaddressed trauma.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
And it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Because when you think of trauma, and I cannot tell
you how many conversations I have had with combat veterans
that go something like this. You know, in the I
don't just walk home and talk to combat veterans about
their feelings, by the way, but in the context of
some of the organizations I have worked with in the past,
you have those conversations about trauma and about you know,
the stress and post traumatic stress that comes with that.

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And inevitably, these these men and some women who have
been through the worst things that you can possibly imagine
and live to tell the tale, and they've come back,
and yet they will always deflect to.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Some other soldier who went through worse.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
And that's very.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Gallant if you will, but it's not helpful to anyone
to deflect your own trauma because you perceive it to
be less than what someone else went through. So before
you think to yourself, oh my gosh, Mandy, I don't
have any trauma, I'm not going to leave. Everybody has
varying things that have happened in their lives that they're
not happy about, that have created stress and anxiety. Most

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of those times have probably shown to be periods of
growth afterwards if you take advantage of them. But we
all have some kind of trauma. So we're going to
talk to doctor Chance about that, and then a little
bit later in the show. So after tye are Mandy
Connell's show composer and conductor and constructor, along with a

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little ai of the Mandy Connell song you've heard at
the beginning.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Of the show.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
That is the most insidious earworm I have ever heard
in my life. I'm not sorry. So my friend Ross
he made up, not Ross Kaminski, a different Ross. He then,
using those same platforms, made up different kinds of Mandy
Connell songs.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
And they are ridiculous. I was laughing at my desk
so hard. I was crying. I just they're ridiculous. They're
all different genres.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
So you have to hear them.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
I cannot be the only person to hear them. A
Rod hasn't even heard of them yet. There's no cursing,
there's no cursing. You know, Ross coming from radio, so
not that Ross.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Different Ross.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
So let's do this.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Let's play this interview that we had with Insidelinebacker Justin
Sternaud yesterday. What a lovely young man and not too
shabby to look at, if I do say so myself.
If you want to see the video of this, you
can go to the blog today at Mandy's blog dot
com and scroll all the way down to the bottom.
But here is our interview with Justin Sternaud from yesterday.
We are here with Justin Sternaud.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
He is back.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
We're happy to have you.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
In March, looked like we were gonna lose you to
the Panthers. What was the kind of deciding factor that
brought you back to the Broncos.

Speaker 8 (09:05):
Yeah, just wanting to win at the place that I
started at, Sean and the coaching staff is building something
special here and just wanting to be part of it.
Wanting to help this team win. Enjoyed last year, but
wanted to get to the playoffs. Wanted to continue to
take this organization to higher heights and that's our goals
this year.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Does this training can't feel different than last year?

Speaker 6 (09:25):
And if so, how Yeah?

Speaker 8 (09:27):
I would say from a player to player standpoint, I
think people are executing at a higher level this year,
playing harder, faster, second year in the system for a
lot of guys. But as far as the grind and
the intensity and all that, it's it's another Sean Payton
training camp.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
A grind.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
How are you feeling physically? Yeah, I'm feeling good.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
I had a growing tweak about a week ago, but
the training staff did a great job helped me recover,
and I'm almost back to about one hundred percent now.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
You played ball at Wake for us? Was that part
of one of the reasons you were looking at Carolina?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
It is a beautiful place, but not as good as
this one.

Speaker 8 (10:02):
No, so it did have a little bit of an
effect on it. Obviously, family and friends were excited when
they initially heard that because it's close to Wake and
a lot closer to home. But no, I didn't have
a legitimate effect I would say on the decision.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Did I see your tarp and springs guy? Yes, yes,
ma'am you did any sponge diving down there?

Speaker 8 (10:23):
I no sponge diving, but the family we get out
on the water sometimes.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Can you feel a difference in this training camp about
you know, the defense didn't have a great year last year,
not the what Broncos fans have come to expect. What
message would you have for Broncos fans about the way
this defense is coming together?

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Yeah, we're taking an approach this year to play extremely
high level, hard on every down. Our defensive line is
really being taught to get off the ball, not just
you know what I mean, not just have a specific gap,
but really get off the ball, recavoc and let the
other guys kind of flow. And I think that's going
to pay dividends for us this year.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
A little of a get to know question watching the
Olympics right now, what's your favorite thing to watch?

Speaker 6 (11:03):
And which Olympic sport would you like to compete in?

Speaker 8 (11:07):
Okay, so his favorite to watch would be the one
hundred and two hundred meters. We were just in there
watching Noah Lyles actually got third in the two hundred. Yeah,
so we just watched it before coming out here.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And then favorite to compete in.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
I'm gonna say it'd be nice to be on the
USA basketball team with Lebron. And hey, they're playing Yokich
today later today, so that'd be exciting for me.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
It's discus.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
I didn't know that was a thing earlier, but I
feel like for some reason I could have excelled in that.
Do you have an irrational feel that you could just
excel in something randomly?

Speaker 8 (11:39):
I come here in the mornings and I see sports
I didn't even know existed half today, So it's awesome.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Yeah, we will have Olympic breakdancing starting tonight.

Speaker 8 (11:48):
So I don't think I'm the most talent of breakdancer,
but I'll give it a try.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
As a member of Gen X, I told Ross earlier
that is the sport we actually invented. My generation invented breakdancing,
So I'm excited about that. What is the thing that
you were looking the most.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Forward to this season?

Speaker 8 (12:04):
Yeah, bringing the winning culture and winning back to Denver.
Since I've been here, we haven't been able to make
the playoffs, but our goals each and every year is
to bring this team to where it was when when
I remember when I was in college when Vaughn and
the guys were winning the Super Bowl against the Panthers.
So that's our goals the super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (12:24):
From your side of the ball, I'm wondering how you're
looking at the quarterback competition right now.

Speaker 8 (12:30):
Yeah, it's a great competition. All three guys are coming
out here and competing every day. Each guy has a
different skill set. I feel like that they bring to
the table, and I'm excited to see how it plays out.
I think all three guys are getting better by the
day and looking forward to seeing who rises to the top.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Justin, Sirnap, thanks so much for your time today. Man.
All right, we have a winner.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
As well for our Broncos tickets. But what a delightful
young man, Floyd. Congratulations Floyd. He has been registered to
win Broncos tickets. I got a question on the text
line I don't know the answer to, but I think
it's a good question, a Rod, So maybe we can
find this out.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
And it is Mandy A Rod. Oh, hey, a Rod.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
I qualified last week for the Bronco ticket giveaway, but
I don't know if I can qualify again and improve
my chances or is it one and done?

Speaker 6 (13:15):
Can we find that out? I lost?

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Okay, we will have an answer for you immediately. And
yes I knew Ross already played this interview. I know
it's remarkable, you guys, but not everybody that listens to
Ross's show listens to my show, and not everybody who
listened to my show listens to Ross's show. Although I
honestly I don't know why you wouldn't right the first
most people. It's like a timing issue, right, It's not

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a big deal. All right, So I just forgot I
got this text message earlier, said Mandy. You missed the
last headline on the blog, and I did, I forgot.
I added this because Dragon let me know. Today is
the anniversary of the bombing of Nagasaki. And I am
this is going to sound really weird, but as part
of the Mandy Connell Adventure, we're going to South Korea.

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Then we're going to Japan and one of our stops
is Nagasaki and we're going to Hiroshima. Now we're doing
that in June fifth of next year, and there's still
space available if.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
You want to go.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
But before that, my nephew is getting married in Albuquerque,
New Mexico. So we are going to go to Albuquerque
and we're going to go to the Nuclear Power Museum
in Albuquerque that has the whole history of the nuclear bombs.
And then in June we're going to go over to
Japan and visit the Peace Memorial and see the other
side of that story. And I am ridiculously excited to

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see the different angles of history. And you know, obviously
we know what happened in Nagasaki in Hiroshima. We're going
to both those places and I just thought that's.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Going to be something really neat. So yes, today is
the anniversary of the bombing of Nagasaki, and I have
information about that. Obviously, so many people died, so many
people die, and it also brought the Western front of
the war to a halt.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
And I'm one of those people that believes and I'm
not going to pretend to be some kind of historical scholar.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm not going to pretend that.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
But I've read probably my fair share as a history
interested person.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Of the Japanese Empire.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
And the people that were in that empire were very,
very honorable and very very proud, and it is thought
in many circles that they would have never stopped fighting,
that hundreds of thousands of more people would have died
because they would have never given up. They had to
be brought to absolute submission. And that's what those bombs

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are about. So yeah, it's just super interesting. If you
want to go on the trip with this, just a
call cruise intur at one eight hundred and three eight
three thirty one thirty one.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I'm super excited. I've never been to Japan.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Really, I only had one experience flying into Japan as
a flight attendant, and it was not a good one.
When the guy in front of me pulled a live
eel out of a tank and nailed its head to
one end of the board and it's tail to the
other end and started slicing pieces off.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
I was like, oh, not ready for this.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
No, I'm much older and now I'll eat anything as
long as it's not squirming. No, I'm just kidding. I
want to eat bugs, not doing that. I'm not falling
for that.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Just back up, Illuminati, I'm not eating bugs, Aerody, Where
are you on eating bugs?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Now?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I know Arod's palate is that of a like a
nine year old boy.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
You are absolutely incorrect. It is not would you eat bugs?
I mean depends if they don't want.

Speaker 10 (16:29):
You.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
There is a zero percent chance you're gonna eat bugs?

Speaker 6 (16:32):
How much?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Zero?

Speaker 7 (16:33):
How much is someone paying five dollars? Okay, then if
it's not probably not.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, I'm just throwing that. A palate is not nine
years old because I want to eat bugs.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
Nor your palette is that of a Simon literally would
pretty much eat almost anything that is within reason.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Were talking about.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
You're talking about, Why is that wone have this preconceived
notion I wouldn't eat anything?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Do I need to call your mom?

Speaker 6 (16:57):
Play out? Okay?

Speaker 7 (16:59):
And my wife about okay, just saying, and you can't
ask my mom because when I was a child, I
was a child. Oh okay, I was a nine year
old boy at one point in time. I don't want
to eat those gross things. I'm not eating bugs. I
don't care how good they are for you.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
I don't eat fruit. I don't want to hear it
from you.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
I know, but I have a really good reason. I
have a really good reason why. It has a texture
issue for me. It's the same reason I don't.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
Literally, you can never criticize anyone for not eating things
you don't like anything.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
That was a fair point. Any I am going to
give you that, poet and we will move on food group.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I can see the point.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Yeah, you have won this argument. Still have the palette
of a toddler. I have the palette of a weirdo.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
How about that?

Speaker 6 (17:41):
If I'm a pal of a toddler, you're even younger
than that. No children, children like fruit.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's the thing, Mandy, you have to watch Showgun on Hulu.
I just cave up and got Hulu. Like I literally
just was like, fine, I'm paying for another eating service.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
We're on shameless right now?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Have you ever watched Shame now No, but I'm gonna
get to that. It's in my queue, very raunchy.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Oh really just made it up number number one, Come
it up next.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
We'll be right back five six, six, nine, oh, being
the text line. So Mandy, I hope this turns into
another ask me anything Friday. You've said in the past
that pizza kills your stomach after you reached a certain age.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I hit forty in January.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Carbs.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Uh wait, what are the alternative sauces and what not
that you mentioned. I've been feeling like I've been stabbed
after eating pizza two nights ago. I'm upright and working,
but this has.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Sucked here for me.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
I cannot have tomato sauce on my pizza because the
acid in the tomatoes mixed with the dough. You can
get pizzas like you can do a white pizza that
has olive oil and garlic and then just cheese because
it is white. The pizza itself is actually white.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
You had cauliflower crust. I have some coulifil I like,
some of.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Them are horrible.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Like you, you honestly, you take a bite and you
just want it off your tongue, like that it's so bad,
But then some they're working on it it's much better.
So there is some good cauliflower pizza out there, But
if you don't like cauliflower, you're not gonna like this pizza.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I do too, You're gonna like it.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Some of them much better than you really have to
do trial and error to see which one you like
the best. And some of them have a tiny bit
of cauliflower, and then they're mostly flower.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
So you're like, what am I doing here? What's the
point cauliflower?

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Thank you?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
But yeah, I just stay away from tomato sauce because
it seems that the acid is what gives me.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
A huge problem.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
So basically, what you can make the pizza, well.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
A traditional pizza, yeah, but you can do alfredo sauce
on there.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
You can do no sauce.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I do no sauce, A lot no sauce pizza, no
sauce pizza, a little olive oil, a little crushed bart
person who eats a white pizza which is not even
like you can dupe a little blobs of ricotta on.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
It, and super good spinach, very tasty pizza.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
It is pizza. It's on a pizza claus pizza.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
You can get a white pizza in Italy, so therefore
I call it pizza. It is pizza, you do, okay.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Not asking, I'm not trying to ban anybody else's pizza,
just letting you know. But it's usually the tomatoes is
what gets me.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Next time you talk to one of our state or
city politicians, please ask them to put a number on
affordable housing. What dollar amount is affordable? It's a term
that is thrown around all the time. But give me
a number, not this nebulous, vague term. I will tell
you what the answer will be. Already the answer will be.
It is always going to be a percentage of the
poverty rate. That's where the devil in the details come.

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Is it going to be one hundred percent of the
poverty rate? Two hundred percent of the poverty rate? What's
that number going to be? And that is a valid question.
Raw Brand sauce doesn't do that, you are correct, Texter.
Raw Brand sauce does not give me the horrible massive heartburn.
That's what I use when I make pizzas at home.
You have you ever made pizza crust at home? Arod,

(21:01):
This is one of those things like do you have
a do you or Jocelyn have a kitchen aid mixer?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Do you have a big, you know, stand mixer?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Also, okay, I'm sure it would be easier with like
a regular you know mixer, just hand kneading, But when
you have a stand mixer, it is the easiest thing
in the world to make pizza crust.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
And it's good, really really good. And then you just
stop getting pizza from places because you know me, anyway.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
You don't really do pizza anyway.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Right now, Blackjack Pizza has the best cauliflower crust. My
husband hates everything and he eats it, so there you go.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Also probably the best fast food pizza.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I don't know if I've ever had Black Chat. I
think it's the best. I'm kind of because pizza does
bad things to me.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I'm super snobby about the kind of pizza I eat
because if it's gonna hurt me, I want it to
be worth it.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
Black Jack, I would say, is worth it.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Like of all the fast food pizza chains, I don't
really people don't really call it fast food pizza, but
I'm going to because you know what I'm talking about,
Jack Pizza Hut Domos.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah, it's probably the best of those, Okay, and it's
pretty tasty.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
That's not too much going on, like there's some of
the other chains. I just mentioned that it's just an overload.
Even if you only get one or two tobbings that overload,
like you're trying to eat and half if it falls off.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Yeah's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
I don't think that's almost like being Validictorny of summer
school though, when you're talking about that, you know, let's
manage expectations in that best fast food pizza.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Not the biggest compliment, no, no, no, but you know
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
But sometimes you just sometimes consistency. You just want to
know what you're getting is worth it.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Thin crust pizza and no sauce tastes like.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
A cracker with the goodies on it. That is a
great idea, text her, Now we're cooking with gas.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
Now we're doing it.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
The possibility of eating bugs goes up with cooked with bacon,
says this texter.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Ooh, I didn't hear anything on your.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Blogheadlines about Smokey Bear's eightieth birthday today.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Did you know they used Bambi before him? Well, Bambi
was an orphan of the forest.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Probably very sympathetic and thank you Texter for getting it
right there. Not Smoky the Bear. Smoky Bear. Anyway, Papa
John's tastes better than Blackjack.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
No, but I know I am.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
I am not a Papa John's fan. I don't like
the man Papa John. I don't like his pizza, and
I am not going to eat there. No, he was
known as a bit of a party hound in Louisville.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Let me just say that.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
He was known about town. And oh, speaking of about.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Town, ay Rod, we have a critical situation. Critical now
where are married people who live in Cherry Creek and
to go to hook up?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Because elways in Cherry Creek is closing.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah. Now, I've been in.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Colorado for eleven years, and when I first got here,
I met a bunch of people and I would always
ask them, like tell me things about the city or
the area. Tell me something about Cherry Creek that everybody
here knows that I should know, like give me the
little inside scoop. And every time I asked about Cherry Creek,
they would always say, well, that's for the mayor. Eight
people in Cherry Creek go to hook up at the
bar of always, and I'm like, what, So.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Apparently it was the thing.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
And people in Cherry Creek sometimes refer to themselves as creakers.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Did you know this? I did not. I'm still I'm
still calling.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Foul on that one.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I need some kind of confirmation from a creaker who's
actually called or heard the people who live in Cherry
Creek creakers.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Or refer to themselves as a creaker.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
It sounds like I mean, sounds like you're druggy.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
It does a little bit. Yeah, a creaker, tweaker. It's
very very close, extremely close, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
I'm the type.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
No such thing as bad pizza, just pizza and better pizza.
And it should be Smoky the Bear. Call me old fashioned,
well I'll call you wrong and old fashioned.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
It's Smoky Bear.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's Smoky Bear.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
No, Smoky the Bear, Smokey Bear, it's it's the Facebook.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Smoky No, there's really officially not He's Smoky Beard.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yes, your entire life is a lie right now, Smoky Bear.
I think a few years ago they came out and said, look,
we don't care what you call him, as long as
you teach your kids about Smoky Bear.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
And only you can prevent for us only. We've all
been indoctrinated. Maybe this is why I hate fire so much.
Maybe maybe this is why I think Arson should be
punished onble by death because Smokey Bear brainwashed me as
a child.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
It doesn't make any sense, though, because isn't his name Smoky.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Exactly the bear? But his last name is Bear.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Bear, mister bear if you're he doesn't stand on formalities right,
so he would never want you to call him mister
bear because he's your pal, he's your buddy, He's Smoky Bear.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Smoky name.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yes, I mean everybody knows all Bear's last name are.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Well, that's how you used to be named, used to
be named like Bob the Sure or or Mark the Cobbler.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Was just walked into what we have now. Bob Builder,
Bob the Builder.

Speaker 10 (26:03):
Bob.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
But Bob's is Bob the Builder's name, last name Builder.
That's where we have to find out to be I
don't think so. I mean, if your name is Bob Builder,
I think your career path is cast in stone. Honestly,
the rest of us in Denver call Creaker's potentious, a
pretentious aholes.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well that's not nice, not at all.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Bob according to the Wikipedia page, doesn't seem to have
a last name, so we don't know it is Bob
the Builder, Well.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
He's the builder. But if his last name is Builder,
then he'd be Bob Builder and Bob the Builder. Well,
that would be unfortunate. That's a mean thing.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
I have a story on the blog today about unfortunate
baby names, and I have to believe some of them
are a lie.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You should check it out. On the break, can we
break it?

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (26:50):
Well, man, you're supposed you're supposed to hit the break
right then?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh wait, sorry, do it again?

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Maybe the condle? Can we break?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Apparently only high school students in Littleton called it creakers. Shocker, Yeah,
high school students. Several people said, when I went to
high school in Littleton, we called them creakers.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
So that may be a derogatory thing to, you know,
the other team kind of thing. Lots of you arguing
with me that everybody that it's the Bear. I'm telling
you it's Smoky Bear, Mandy native here. People that live
in Cherry Creek do not call themselves creakers. That's what
we call retired people that live here. That's creakers with

(27:29):
an a C R E, a K E r s.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
And to those of you pointing out that it is
Bob the Builder, we know this.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
We know.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
We're just trying to find out if his last name
is Builder, in which case he'd be Bob Builder, the Builder.
So I appreciate you all trying to bring us up
to speed, a lot.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Of you pointing out this similar vein.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
I think the Smoky the Bear may have come from
the jingle Smoky the Bear. It started off Smoky the Bear,
Smoky the bear growling and a sniffing the air. He
can smell fire before it starts to flame. That's why
they call him Smokey. That's how he got his name. Now,
y'all right there, this text message is the power of
advertising and the power of repetition right here in one

(28:15):
text message. Because I cannot remember my daughter's cell phone number,
but I can remember commercial jingles from the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Maybe I need to make.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Her cell phone number into a commercial jingle. This person
remembered that from childhood, because that has.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Not aired in maybe forty years at the most, probably
fifty years.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Amazing, absolutely amazing. Anyway, didn't mean to go on a
tangent about what I do for a living, which is advertising. Anyway,
I want to just gloss over gloss through this story
because one of the things that I think is is
better about law enforcement, although I guarantee it probably makes

(29:04):
it more challenging for the people actually in law enforcement,
is the sharp attention paid to any sort of early
signs that there could be issues in the future. And
three new graduates of the police training were fired in

(29:25):
late July, and they were fired because an investigation family
had sent disparaging messages in a group chat that joked
about going to immigrant shelters for quote target practice. Now,
there's so much stunningly bad judgment shown in this that it's.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Not even funny.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
But I have to give the department kudos. Someone ratted
these guys out. These guys and girl, I should say,
the agency learned in April of disturbing messages shared in
a group chat with officers who went through the training
academy together, and the officers were terminated because they were
still in the probationary period. So it is it's good

(30:10):
that they're aggressively going after stuff like this. And you say, look,
people are blowing off scene.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I get gallows humor. I understand it.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
I understand why people who deal with violence and death
all day, every day use gallows humor to keep themselves sane.
But these three had barely gotten out of the stupid
police academy, and these three thought it was okay in
a group chat where there is evidence. I'm assuming they

(30:37):
learned about things like evidence when they were in the
police academy. They're not smart enough to be police officers.
So yeah, I think it's good you send a message.
We're not going to tolerate any of this. We're not
going to tolerate indiscriminate, you know, threatening comments, even if
they're joking, it's not okay.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
I'll take a a lot of ribbing. I can usually
give as good.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
As I get when it comes to, you know, making
fun of and being made fun of. But I don't
ever tell someone I wish they were dead, because I don't.
I don't care how much I dislike you, I don't
want I don't wish you dead. I don't ever use
that language, and I don't ever tolerate it being used
against me.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
So that's why a guy got blocked.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
The other day because he was doing that. So he's
now gone, and I'm fine with that by yeah later,
but this made me I think this is a good thing.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Excuse me, Wow, just choked on air.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
No, the other officers that were in the group chat
are now going through more diversity, equity and inclusion training.
But how about this, Do they have a how just
don't be in a hole training? Because that's obviously what
these people need. I could teach that class a rod.
I teach it every day in the.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Radio for free.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
Right here.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
We will be right back when we get back.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Everybody has varying things that have happened in their lives
that could count as trauma, and we're going to talk
to doctor Gregory Chance about trauma in a healthy way
to make it work for you instead of against you.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Coming up next, The.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
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Speaker 3 (32:41):
Welcome, We welcome to the second hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
And I am pleased to have an expert renounced psychologist,
Gregory Chance.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Doctor Gregory Chance, he's.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Got to book out triumph over Trauma and he says, Look,
the number one calls he's getting now are not about anxiety, depression,
or addictions. It's all about trauma. And he even has
a trauma quiz to take. So we're going to find
out all about that today, Doctor Chance.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Good to be with you.

Speaker 9 (33:09):
Such an important topic today.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Well, you know, it's interesting you say people are not
calling about anxiety, depression or addictions. It's always been my
kind of understanding or supposition that a lot of times
it is trauma that is at the root of anxiety,
depression or addictions.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
So is it just that people are.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Getting more aware that there's something underlying all these other things?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Is that what's happening?

Speaker 9 (33:33):
Well, trauma is an interesting word because what's traumatic to
one person may not need to be the next. But
people are calling in and they're saying, I've been traumatized
or I've had enough trauma. There's so much trauma in
the world right now. And yes, we're we're at a
breaking point. We have a mental health crisis in our country.
I would say probably closer to an epidemic mental health issues.

(33:57):
The number one diagnosis in our country right now actually
is anxiety disorder. Now anxiety disorder can come from a
lot of different issues, but anxiety and depressions still are
at the top. But people are describing they're at a
saturation point, and they're saying, I've had enough trauma.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
And I'm going to ask this question delicately because I
know I'm talking to a very important psychologist. Are we
catastrophizing too much to make it into trauma or you know,
I just know that for some things that I have
heard others talk about, trauma wise, it's laughable compared to
someone else. Or is it just as significant to them

(34:39):
even though it seems insignificant to me.

Speaker 9 (34:44):
It's a good question, and I do believe that trauma
what could be traumatic for one is different for the other.
But everybody has shared since post COVID mental health issues
and the need is greater than our ability to deliver
help right now. And so we look at people who
have suffered from long standing depression that's gotten worse. If

(35:05):
you struggled with social anxiety pre COVID, now you have
multiple anxieties, panic attacks are up. So people are reaching
I set a saturation point, an emotional saturation point, So
we're like beyond burnout. We're beyond stressed. Our bodies are
crying out. Sleep disorders are at an all time high,

(35:27):
and so people are, in one word, suffering. Now we
are doing things that add to our trauma. You mentioned addictions, Well,
we know that addiction and alcohol consumption, and drugs and
misuse of prescription drugs, cannabis. All this is that again
at an all time high, and it's hurting us, not

(35:49):
helping us.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
That's an interesting point. I mean, it's a very interesting point.
We seem to be doing the opposite of what we
need to do. Is that because people don't recognize when
they have trauma and if not, how can you figure
that out?

Speaker 9 (36:03):
Yes, And I think, well, that's why I take my
free little confidential quiz here in a minute, because that's
important to look at. Go okay, where do I score
on this trauma continuum. But here's the thing. People are tired,
They're weary emotionally, and so they're looking I call it
mood modulate. They want to feel different. Well, I can

(36:25):
use alcohol and I feel different for a little while,
but then I overuse it and then I feel worse.
And alcohol is a central nervous system depressant, and so
some of the things I'm using to cope actually end
up making things worse. And you said something that was
so important at the beginning. You said about the root cause.

(36:47):
We've got to get to the root cause of the trauma.
If it's abuse that's never been dealt with, if I'm
in an abusive relationship, whether it be emotional abuse or
sexual abuse, but trauma could have been from a significant
loss early on. And I'm going to add I think
social media for our youth can be traumatic. There's a

(37:09):
lot of cyberbully behavior going.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
On when you talk about, you know, different traumatic experiences.
And I was saying earlier, you know, I mentioned this
on my show before. I've talked to many veterans, and
when you talk to them about the horrible things that
they've gone through, often they will deflect and say.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Oh, but my buddy over here had it so much worse.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Do you think that's common, is that people think of
the traumatic things that have happened to them in their
lives and they downplay them because they know someone who's
had it worse.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
Well, we downplay it or we deny the significance, and
we begin to really deflect that, oh no, this had
a significant effect on me. It's affected my self esteem,
my self concept. If I'm in a toxic relationship that's
got a lot of trauma in it, it's affected my trust,

(38:01):
It's affecting how I see my future. I may even
take on a victim role. I may take on well,
I kind of deserve this, and you allow yourself to
be mistreated, So all that fits into trauma. And then
right now, here's a big issue. People don't know what
to believe. They don't know what's true. I listened to

(38:23):
the New I don't know what's true, but I'm tired
of being traumatized.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Are people being traumatized by current events?

Speaker 9 (38:35):
Well, I think we can oversaturate ourselves in it. I think,
I hate to use the word trigger is kind of overused,
but we can be so triggered by things that are
going on because it reconnects with something that happened to
us before. You know, mistrust is at an all time low.
People don't trust others and so when you add mistrust,

(38:58):
you don't have close relationships. And you know, I'm looking
at loneliness right now. Yeah, loneliness, you think, no, we
have more ways to be connected to social media, but
we are seeing so many people who are suffering in silence,
and in one word, they are so lonely and they're alone.

(39:20):
So we're not feeling those important relationship connections that.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
We all need. So I want to ask you this.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
You have this trauma quiz online and I clicked over
to look at it before you came on the show,
and I was kind of expecting, tell me, tell me
about this horrible thing that happened to you.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
But it's the exact opposite. It's it's how you feel
right now. How did you build the trauma test?

Speaker 9 (39:44):
Well, this is actually by and this happens to be
and it's so fun that we're talking now. This is
our fortieth year anniversary. So I'm from the center, a
place of hope and through the years that this has
been thousands of folks that we've worked with, and we
see patterns, and that's what we're looking for. I see
patterns of trauma in my life that have not been
attended to. I may have a lot of hidden resentments

(40:07):
and bitterness. I may have a secret addiction or a
food addiction. I look for ways of coping with all
this hurt and pain in my life, and that's why
I think We've got to get to the root of it.
So how am I being affected right now? For some
they've carried these hurts, and I'm going to say, mistreatment
or trauma. You've carried it for a long time. And

(40:29):
trauma could be unintentional. It could have been a significant
loss early on in life, multiple losses of relationships, things
that were traumatic when you were younger, that still bring
you a source of hurt and pain, you know, twenty
or forty years later.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
My guess is doctor Gregory Chance, now doctor Jance, if
someone goes to your trauma test, they take the trauma
test and they find out, Wow, this has been affecting
me negatively, and I maybe I didn't realize these things
were connected.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
What is the next step?

Speaker 9 (41:02):
Well, the next episode, I am going to automatically send
you a number of resources. Over the next couple of days,
We're gonna send you some resources and let you begin
to dig just a little bit deeper. Sometimes we just
need to have more information. Sometimes it's okay, I really
need to address this. And I'm going to say, if

(41:23):
you've been suffering, it's three months, it's six months, and
things are not getting better. Be honest with yourself. Look
in the mirror and have a little little checkup from
the net cup and go, Okay, I need to do
something because if I stay in this downward spiral, where's
it taking me? And here's the thing that we see
people generally regret waiting so long to get help. I'm

(41:48):
afraid to get help. I don't know what's really available,
and so we want to resource you and kind of
put you in a place where you can make a
good decision about what you need.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Doctor Gregor.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I appreciate your time today very much, and I put
a link on the blog to his website so you
can go and take the trauma test for yourself and
see if maybe it's time to get some help for
whatever is ailing you. Doctor Chance, thank you so much
for your time today.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
So good to be with you.

Speaker 9 (42:18):
Thank you for having me all right.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Thank you, Sue.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I meant what I said.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
I do think that, especially for teenagers right now, we
have swung the pendulum too far when it comes to
mental health stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
And this isn't please don't construe this.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
As we need to walk back the things that we've
done mental health wise. But teenagers who are you know,
very impressionable they spend half their day self diagnosing their
own perceived mental illnesses online.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I'm not exaggerating.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Every one of my daughter's friends has some sort of
self diagnosis for something. And it's like, look, sometimes being
stressed is an anxiety.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Sometimes it's just nerves.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Sometimes you're just nervous about something, And being nervous is
your brain being hardwired biologically from back when we were
walking into a cave to see if we could use
it as shelter and there could be a bear in
there that was going to disembowel us and eat us,
you felt nervous, you felt anxious because it was designed
to keep you alive. Well, we still are hardwired that way.

(43:24):
Our brain is still trying to protect us all the time.
Only now the slightest little thing that is in no
way going to be a bear that's going to disembowel
us and eat us throws people completely off because we
are wired to react that way to protect ourselves. But
we've gotten to the point where now everything, oh you
have this, you talk too much at a party while

(43:46):
you're obviously a narcissistic personality. It's like, no, we all
have a little streak of narcissism in us at some point.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
But it's almost like we've gone too far. So how
do you strike the balance? I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Uh, Mandy can society, temper our, use of the words
trauma and suffering, rhetorical questions, suck it up, society. You
could have been a member of the Donner Party or
in ginghis Khan's Way.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
See this is.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
This is how I go through life, little window in
the into the world of Mandy's brain.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Whenever something bad happens to me, the first thing I
do is do exactly what that text messager did.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Welp.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
I could have been living in the age of cholera,
or maybe during the Bubonic plague, or maybe just during
the Civil War when everything just sucked. You know, especially
as a woman, I could have lived in a lot
of different times. I could live in a different country
right now. The next time something happens to you that
you're feeling irritated about, you have to pay a big
car repair, you have to you know, replace a broken

(44:50):
window or one of those little one of those little
things that we have to deal with in a.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
In advanced society.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Just think to yourself, I could be living in a
Bangladeshi slum right now there, but for the grace of.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
God go I right.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
So, gratitude is is a habit that once you adopt
it will change your life straight up.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
It will make your life so much easier.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
That and tapping into that stoic knowledge that worrying about
things that you cannot control is the biggest waste of time,
energy and brain power in the history of the world.
I mean, if you can mitigate what you can mitigate,
then mitigate. But if you can't control things, don't worry
about it.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Because you worry about it doesn't change anything. So if
you can adopt those two things into your life, being
grateful for what you have, where you are and where
you live, and y'all, I started my gratitude practice when
I did not have anything. I started it back when
there was months where I was like, I do not
know how I'm going to pay my rent.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
But then you think, like.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
I'm struggling in a first world economy, I have, you know,
the means to pick up two more shifts waiting and
I can make my rent when there's people all over
the world that are living in unbearable heat in housing
that doesn't have any sort of climate control, uncertain of
whether or not they're going to be able to eat tomorrow,
and I'm worried about paying my rent for the apartment

(46:15):
that I should not have said at least for because
it was too expensive, but I did. Anyway, you know,
you have to get perspective and you need to be
able to check yourself on that. And I'm pretty dang
good at that. I'm relentlessly optimistic. And that's that's part
of the reason.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Why Mandy Perspective and gratitude is a great drug. More
prescriptions needed, Yes, indeedy this text are said not to
get too religious, but feeling like God is distant surely
can't be helping many with trauma. I agree.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Kids are focused on all this nonsense, indoctrinated bs because
they are not outside playing.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
That is one hundred percent true. We have a generation of.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Girls that are eleven, twelve, thirteen years old who are
obsessed with their skincare routine. Do you know what my
skincare routine was when I was twelve years old. I
washed it with coast soap in the shower and that
was it. That was my skincare routine. But they see

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all this crap on social media and now these young
girls are putting all this stuff on their faces not knowing.
And by the way, they're getting filler and botox at eighteen.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
WTF, moms, what do we do into our girls? What
are we doing?

Speaker 5 (47:39):
And by the way, I'm not anti plastic surgery at all.
I'm not anti botox. I'm not anti any of that.
If it makes you feel good, knock yourself out. I
don't do it, bandy. We're just trying to affirm the
way that they feel about them. But we don't know
how it's gonna age piller. Hears the dirty little secret
about filler. Filler actually builds on old layers of filler,
and biller does.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
Not all dissolve in your face, their body, their joys.
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
But they don't know.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
That's the thing.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
We don't know what fifty years of filler in your
face looks like.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
But we're going to find out, and I bet it's
not going to be pretty. I saw that the other
day and I was like.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
What are we doing to our children? What is happening
right now? Skincare routine for seven year olds? What how
about wipe the peanut, butter and jelly off your face
and go to bed.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (48:30):
That would be nice.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
The best thing that could happen but never will, is
to make it so people can't google or search their
medical issues and take prescription medication drug commercials off TV.
These two things make everyone think they're dying and just
create more exact anxiety.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
That from Eric. Now, Eric, for your standard person on
the internet going to web md and stuff like that,
you may be right.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
But for those of us who are internet doctors, we
generally are quite good at finding the correct stuf. That
is to affirm the fact that we do not have,
you know, head cancer or whatever. I am right about
what's wrong with me about ninety percent of the time
when I go to the doctor at least. But of course,
you know, people who don't understand such things should probably

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say off those sites. Anyway, there's nothing bad about a
good skincare routine.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Just don't buy all that bad crap. Here's the thing.
A skincare routine when you're seven years old should be
washed your.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Face with soap and go to bed. That's a skincare routine.
We're's sunscreen when you go outside. That's really as far as.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
It needs to go. Those two things need to happen.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
These girls have a multi step process. They're using more
products than I am. It's insane, absolutely insane.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Mandy, we could have lived in a time when a
little nick on the finger it could turn into gangerine
and the loss of a limb or our life.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Correct, Steve, Correct, that is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Now, when we get back, Let's do the Mandy Connell
songs when we get.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Back a rod because they're so ridiculous and so great.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
So after we have our the Mandy Connall theme song,
which is part of the open of the show now
and I love it so much, so so much. My
friend Ross he made a bunch of Mandy Connell's songs
and they are ridiculous. He did all different genres of music,
and we're gonna play them for you. They're all like

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thirty seconds.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
They're not long.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
I don''t make you toy. They're just so funny. I
could not this.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Two things funny things happened in the past few days
that are funny. One of them at my expense. One
of them is just funny. But it has to do
with me, So it may seem like I'm all like, look.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
At me, look at me.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
But yesterday a Rod sends me a link to the
video of our interview with Justin Stronaut, And when you
get a link to the video, you just get the
screen grab that YouTube created or a Rod created.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
He's trying to.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
Have plausible deniability, but it is, yeah, the most absurd
screen grab in the history of screencraps.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
So reality here, that is the first frame of a video. Okay, okay,
so I have to choose the.

Speaker 7 (51:09):
Moment that you start talking that I want to be
the first frame of the video, so it's not the
couple seconds of day.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Do you know that you can actually choose a different
screen rop?

Speaker 6 (51:18):
Not on Twitter?

Speaker 7 (51:19):
No, not on Twitter, okay, because the screen grab you
got was me sending in the link that auto populates
a thumbnail, and that thumbnail is the first frame.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Of the video. Always on Twitter.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Now you will be happy to know, Mandy the Connell,
that on Instagram you are able to choose a thumbnail,
and I gave you.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
A better one on the IG. I appreciate that you
can't do that on Twitter because the screen grab on
Twitter is not very flattering, you.

Speaker 7 (51:43):
Call it, which I've been that I then exaggerated. I
have now made my contact card. Other people have grabbed
it as well. My mom went out of her way though,
to go grab a nice frame from person. Okay, so
it's not all bad.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
But what did we learn? Don't call attention to it?

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Can I?

Speaker 6 (52:01):
How could I not?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Though it's hilarious, This is how I operate. I'm like, Okay,
is it embarrassing for me?

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
But is it really funny?

Speaker 7 (52:08):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (52:09):
I wish everyone shared that same approach.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
No, because it's just a dumb, dumb picture and it's
funny as hell, and I would be remiss if I
did not allow others.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
To enjoy that as well. Oh no, no, he really
did make it my contact photo. I did.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
I can't wait for the DNC all week when you call?

Speaker 5 (52:30):
No, did you see our setup at the DNC? Did
you look at the pictures?

Speaker 6 (52:34):
Holy cat?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Well, I'm guessing all the big shows aren't coming then. Yeah,
because we're up on the stage this time, buddy, Yep.
You guys won't ever see what we're doing. I mean
you will if you follow us on social media, because
we'll do a video about it. Hell yeah, Mandy, we
could have lived in a time when we were still
part of the food chain exactly.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
My point, if you don't think on a regular basis
is that thing gonna eat me, you're living pretty good
and we need to appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
People.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
You know what I always focus on when I'm having
a little moment of like a little pity party. Something's
not going right. I gotta pay a bill. I didn't
expect something like that. I walk over and I turn
on the water at my sink, and I think to myself,
there's like a billion people living on the earth right
now that cannot do that.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
I am not one of them. I have plenty to
be thankful for when we get back.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Dumb Mandy connall songs that are awesome because they're absolutely absurd.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
That's coming up next.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
So we got the Mandy Connell theme song, which I love, love, love,
biggest ear where I'm ever and one of my radio
friends Ross heard it and said, I like that, but
I think I can do better Mandy connall theme songs. Now,
these aren't all long, these are not all fully thought out,
but he didn't for different genres. Did you have a
chance to preview them? Anthony at a perfect Okay, So

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let me pull up this email so I know what
we're doing, all right, So why don't we start with
Welcome to Mandy's Show.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
You got that one? That's the one, got it?

Speaker 5 (54:00):
They're okay, this is Welcome to Mandy Show, a theme
song created by my friend Ross and A.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
I go ahead, now, Bobby, can't you see us walking
through the park?

Speaker 6 (54:13):
I cast old house.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yes, that is it.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
To maget, he goes.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Like a big smile, welcome.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
There's also breaking through the door, all right, erorn and
that's they're only like thirty seconds. Yeah, that's not that
kind of like eighties sitcom family sitcom vibe to it
that I like.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
That's different. See there's cut off after that.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Nice yeah, and then the next one is just the
Mandy Show. I don't know which one this is, so
just play the next one.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Let's see it's in the BASSA bye, this is boy
band version, and then.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
Feel that.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
Man shou exactly. We have a number. So yeah, there's
a spin.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
And a kind of you know, headshape right there.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Let's go link to the camera. Just yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
Now, to be clear, none of these are going to
replace the Mandy Connell song, which I love, the Mandy
condl jingle please without yeah, well, I think one of
them is just a re.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Record of the other.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
We'll find out.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
Find out. Here we go, let's go when you're look.
This is the best ever.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I last it so hard.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
Walls in this opening.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Every morning my job, there's somebody playing the job today.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
You know.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
You love your dad.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
And then somebody walks in with a chicken under their arm.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Okay, way that Kelly Moman with some goat.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Yeah, I mean, come on, that one made me start
crying laughing so hard because it's so ridiculous, amazing.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Play the other jingle and see if that one's different.
I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Oh yes, this is actually my favorite one. Gone also
that go it's pretty simple, kid, I.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Just want.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Anything with this for trumpets is what you want.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Every day?

Speaker 5 (56:44):
On the way, it's the one, Yes, that one that's
my favorite, the version. Okay, now we have like a
we have like a more a slow tam Field one.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I like this one as well.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Go ahead, here we go, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Right now, stept for you didn't love that makes the US,
but education and love break.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
It down O life on the radio. Yeah, well that's
me Mandy's gonna beef me song. Of it down with
the real roll peace yeplean.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Every word of peas.

Speaker 7 (57:22):
It's the magic show.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Thank you to the street.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
That's something we have.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
You know, a comedian who's got an urban style, we
can play this and make him think I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
That's something.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
Yeah, that is something, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
And then this one hit mix, this is your contemporary
hit radio.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
Do it a rod, play it? You know, we think
that's the prop and the top of the many consul
the one you peaks the do it's Gonnay boys fell
a little bit. Yeah, I know you can see it.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
These are hilarious to me.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
I love that. It's not to get from them to
the South Chinese. Don't miss it's the ultimate give a
bat whig and.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Yeah yeah, first Prince meets Beastie Boys and I'm okay
with it.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
I love the sky One. That's my favorite.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Sco one was my favorite as well. Even though they're
the least amount of words in.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
The Sky one, most of it is, uh, you know,
a trumpbone solo or trumpet solo.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
I mean, you know, but hey, I man, it is amazing.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
It's absolutely incredible what can be done on the Internet.
I just find that fascinating, and I'm wondering because you know,
I've decided I'm gonna write a musical. I'm writing two
musicals now, a Rod. I've decided I'm gonna take them
both to Broadway. One about the TEENA Peters trial, because,
oh my goodness, this entire story is like if the

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Keystone Cops tried to prove an election was stolen. And
when you hear Jimmy Sangenberger has been writing about it
in the Denver Gazette, and I talked Tom earlier. He's like, Mandy,
it's even more a batpoop crazy already today. And then
I'll do a separate musical about the Colorado gop. But
I'm gonna do it in the style of like a

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Shakespearean tragedy.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
I haven't decided who the.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Protagonist is yet, but if I could use AI to
write the music, I mean, how do you do that?
I have to find out because that stuff is really,
really funny and wildly entertaining. Mandy Scanell for the win,
Get it a Rod Scanell, get it Connell Scott.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Anyway, I told you they were hilarious. Everybody's like love
all these I laughed so hard at my desk the
other day.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
I just I have to share these.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Mandy, can you give us the words to your current
song intro?

Speaker 6 (59:44):
I know you've done it once, but I missed it.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Let's see here, well that can I'll do.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
It on when we get back from the next break,
because I have to look up ties email and find
out because you know to find it because Ty did.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
The Mandy Connell song for you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
You and luckily, because I'm a good googler and vampire
at the same time, I found the email.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
So here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
The part that plays.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
There's a whole longer version of the Mandy Connell song,
but the part you hear is Mandy Connell ruling the day, ruling,
not ruining, ruling the day with words that ignite. She's
our guiding way through the static and the noise. She
cuts through the fray. Mandy Connell keeping ignorance at bay
So and I just want to let you guys know,

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every talk show host that I've talked to about this
thinks this is the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
They're all so jealous.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
I told him to take the song and play it
for their listeners as a taunt and see if you
can get one of your creative listeners to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Make you a song.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
For the longest time. We told Dave Frasier that weather
Wednesday was the coolest open.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
He raised the bar.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
We stepped over it with Tie's help and Ajur, production
director who makes all that stuff for us, because he's amazing. Yeah,
it's very difficult to understand the words to all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
It is.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
I I a couple of them.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
I had to listen to a couple of times, but
it was just they were so silly. Mandy, you and
a rodd to play the sco scothing loudly in press
row at the DNC and see who comes to your table.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
That's a good strategy. That's a really good strategy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Well, you guys, what's funny is we just got our
where we're gonna be. We're actually gonna be in the
United Center somewhere. Now it'll probably be it'll be on
the floor on the outskirts, on all those rooms that
exist on the outskirts of the floor of arenas.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
But everything is going to be in one space, which
is going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Super nice for us because at the r n C
we were I don't know, maybe at quarter of a
mile apart wouldn't you say about a quarter of a mile?

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
Yes, and that might not sound like a lot, but
when you are by the way, that would tell you
I counted the steps. Yeah, No, four days, twenty two miles.
Holy la, forty five thousand steps.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
That makes me feel pretty good right now because I
was with you for most of those.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
So the quarter mile, you know, that adds up a
little Bitport.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
That have posse's and entourages and you're trying to get
them from one place to the other.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Is not It's challenging those two.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
Think about now, all the walking in and out of
the zone everywhere in the zone. Oh my god, the zone.
The zone.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I'm interested to see how they pull the zone off
in Chicago.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
If I thought we had heard that there would be
two zones.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
One of them is far away, no one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
They have a bunch of stuff happening, like fun stuff
happening in the McCormick Place. For people who know Chicago
the McCormick Place area, there's a bunch of events and
things going on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
And I'm just going to give the Democrats credit right now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Their website for the DNC does such a great job
of listing local restaurants, what kind of.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
Food you know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Of course they're like LGBTQ friendly, vegan whatever. But they
have a whole listing on their website of local businesses,
and I think the RNC did not necessarily they did
a terrible job with that aspect. But then the zone
exploded and got bigger after Trump got shot.

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
Most of the places you couldn't go to. Yeah, like
literally could not get into most of the businesses anywhere around.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Anywhere around there. So they kind of did the locals
in Milwaukee dirty. I know they didn't mean to, but
they did already. The DNC has done a better job
of providing that kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
The R and Z.

Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
A lot of that expansion, I assume was last minute
after the assassination attempt, like they had you. Probably they
did my several blocks, so a lot of things they
could not plan ahead to get us in the right
spot of time.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
To those of you who said it really does sound
like ruins the day rules rules the day. It's wrong
with you people, Get the biscuits out of your ears, Ayron,
have you ever done the tour of the Olympic Training Center?

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
Ever done that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
No, it's so good, it's not expensive as far as
cool things to take people who've never been here before,
that is right at the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Top of my list. That being said right now making
the rounds on the Twitter, here we go is I mean,
this cannot be real. It cannot be a real breakdancing competitor,
because breakdancing is an Olympic.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
Sport, breaking and I'm here for it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Okay, first of all, it's the gen X original sport.
We Generation X we made this sport. How many other
sports in the Olympics right now that your generation made,
well probably a few of your old But anyway, my.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
Barber is a breakdancer and hoping to compete in twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
Well, I don't know what country this is or let
me see here Australia versus France. But I'm not even
kidding when I say that this breakdancer is literally just
rolling around on the floor. I got his head, no,
not even on his head, just rolling around on the floor, Anthony,

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And I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
This is not the way to kick off the new sport,
not the.

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
Way to dazzle people.

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
Well, because I don't know for sure, but I was
talking to Barber about breaking because, like I said, he
wants to compete in twenty eight is like on a
trial basis, like not confirmed to be in the next Olympics,
Like it may not be so it kind of has
to go well and received.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
Well yeah, sure about that. But if that's the case,
that's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
And it's the I mean, it's almost like this is
somebody doing a joke.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
That's how bad it looks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Oh yeah, you see what I'm talking I just retweeted
it on my Twitter page. Oh at Mandy Connell. Oh no, yeah,
you see what I'm You see what I'm saying now?

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
Oh no, yeah, oh good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
That looks like somebody his friends dared him to go
break dance.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
Oh that's like, I say, a.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Rod, you know, would be really funny if you went
to the Breakdancing Olympics as a breakdancer, even though you
don't know how.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
To break dance, and then.

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
On the world stage, we're gonna throw you out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
There and you can just pretend that you know how
to break dance. It's bad, doesn't it look like somebody's
making a joke. Oh my god, that can't be real.
I mean, it can't be real.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
It just cannot. It cannot be real because a rod, do.

Speaker 6 (01:06:02):
You know what this means.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
If it is real, you and I, You and I,
we can be the Olympics.

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
No, we won't be, breaking won't last. We won't see
this in twenty eight. If this is no competition, we
get in twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Oh boy, Oh no.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
I wasn't even gonna talk about that. I got a
bunch of other stuff on the blog today, but that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
Someone said in the comments, whole routine need a WD forty.
It's so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
It's it's really, really, really bad.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
Someone said, did they ask if anyone in the audience
wanted to go, yeah, there you go?

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
This one says, now you see what happens when you
drug test breakdancers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
This is what's left.

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
Someone said, how did she qualify?

Speaker 9 (01:06:43):
Is it a she?

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
I can't tell.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I can't either. It doesn't matter if it's male or female.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
We need that squeaky shoe music to go with this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
Oh boy, Okay, I do want to talk about some
stuff that's not Oh now, if you have not watched
The Men's two hundred and you don't know what happened,
turn your radio off for like a minute.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
And a half. Spoiler alert, please call nine eight.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Seven sixty five blah blah blah. Okay, it's off.

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
So Noah Lyles has been the prohibitive favorite in these races.
He won one hundred meter, but he barely won thee
hundred meter and just a few days later he was
having trouble running well. He ran in that race and
came in third and then had to be taken off
the track in a wheelchair because.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
Dude has COVID.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
He won a bronze medal at the Olympics with COVID.
That's like next level. So when somebody says, dude, why
did you wear a gold I had COVID. Thank you
when I ran two hundred meters in thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Less than thirty seconds twenty something seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
Luckily Paris is about sea level cause problems in cod.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Kind of badass. So he's done in the Olympics and
and everything else. And some real stars have come out
of track and field in terms of the people that
they're talking to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
They have some really interesting athletes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
What I found fascinating is that last night after the
women's four by one hundred relay, Shakari Richardson was on
that team and they did not speak to her after
the race, not because.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
She wasn't standing there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
She does not give a good interview. It's painfully bad.
Like I kind of want to call her people and say,
can I coach her?

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Would you let me coach her on how to give
an interview because you've got a bright future in track
and field. I hope she is.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Back in another Olympics. She's very fast, but she's got
to learn how to speak. It's always sad when they
can't do that. Now, when we get back, we're going
to do a two minute drill and then at two thirty,
Jimmy Singenberger is coming in. Wait until you hear the
nonsense that is going on at the Tina Peters trial.
This is like next level insanity. We'll talk about that

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in the next hour, So stick around.

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Hey, we're gonna go too minute warnings.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Rapid fire stories of the day that we don't have
more time for. Triplet's call this so it'll take longer
than two minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
Are you up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Here's Mandy Coddle.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
All right, my friends, Downtown Denver is looking to fill
up all the vacant spaces on the sixteenth Street Mall
as the never ending remodel comes to a close. The
city is going to use the American Reinvestment whatever the
ARPA money that we were supposed to use to recover
from COVID to pay people to come down. There's a

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great program, YadA, YadA, YadA. They just want people to
come and open up businesses there. What remains to me
seen though, is do we have enough traffic downtown right
now to support new businesses. You're gonna find that out
very very soon, it too. Hey, ay Ron, I know
you use the Diamond Shrooms products all the time to
microdos of course throughout the day. Well you need to

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toss them out because they've been linked to lots and
lots of hospitalizations one hundred and thirteen illnesses, forty two
known hospitalizations.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
And two deaths.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
You heard me right, this is a product that is
a fake version of psilocybin. Now what shocks me is
that apparently you can buy these all over the place
in tobacco shops.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
What I mean, why do we have why do we
have laws?

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
Why do we have I'm confused about how this has
been In any case, if you own any products from
diamond shrooms, you probably want to toss them or maybe die.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
WA's up to you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
I mean, you do what's best for you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Drill it too.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
Good news.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
COVID has dropped dramatically in the cause of death category.
At its height, it was the number three cause of
death back in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
It is now down to the tenth leading cause of
death and has.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Fallen below product liver disease and cirrhosis, and likely to
fall below suicide because suicide numbers come in much later.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
It is right behind influenza and pneumonia.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
So now as COVID, can we just be done with
worrying about COVID because we don't really worry about the
flu that much or you know, or pneumonia.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Just I'm just asking for a friend, drill it too.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
ABC has said that Trump and Harris have agreed to
participate in a presidential debate on September tenth, now, right
after Joe Biden was deposed and Kamala Harris was installed
as the candidate I said, you know, Trump should use
this to leverage. But then in just a few short weeks, somehow,

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I'm who had a great convention and a survived to
the assassination attempt, has now managed to squander all of
the goodwill that was directed at him, with the assist
of the media.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
I said this yesterday when I did the show with Ross.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
In my lifetime, I have never remembered a time when
the media has dropped any pretense of impartiality and they
are all in for Donald Trump. They're gonna do everything
they can to make him look good. They're going to
ask nothing of the Harris Walls ticket, including why are
you talking to us? So this debate may be the
only chance we have to see Kamala Harris speak freely

(01:12:36):
because Aroon never.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Was just talking about this off the air. Why would
she not talking to the press.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Has her now leading in a lot of polls, so
it's hers to lose now, I guess I don't know,
but we're going to have a debate, of course, I
think I have not confirmed this, but I'm guessing we're
gonna do the KOA cast once again. Although I have
an idea. I'm gonna see if I can pull off.
We'll see if we can put it together.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Rill it too.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
I had this story on the blog and this honestly
is like a little bit of inside radio kind of stuff.
But there's an organization called the Global Alliance for Responsible Media.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
They go by GARM.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Large large companies pay GARM to tell them where not
to put their money. They don't want to be placed
next to controversial content, and GARM allegedly said, okay, here's
what you do. But the reality was GARM only targeted
conservative media.

Speaker 9 (01:13:28):
GARM.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
The goal of GARM was to demonetize conservative content, so
ultimately they wanted to put conservatives out of business. And
so GARM came after Twitter when Elon Musk bought Twitter,
and a couple of days ago, Elon Musk sued GARM.
He was like, you know what, they're interfering with my business.

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We're going after them. And now GARM has quickly disbanded.
It wasn't just the Elon Musk suit. It was also
letters from Congress asking for information about their roles in GARM,
whether they participated in any collective boycotts with GARM or
other advertisers that some lawmakers believe violate federal antitrust laws.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Just like that they crumbled.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
But I'm not so dumb as to think that this
is going to be the end of these kinds of things,
because it can all happen right under the table just
as much as it could happen above the table. Now,
one last story, oops, hang on, one last story. In
the two minute drill, average consumer credit card debt is
now six thousand, twenty nine dollars and defaults are rising.

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This is not good news for the overall economy, especially
the part about defaults.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
The average balance is.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Up almost five percent year over year, and credit card
delinquency rates are.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Also higher across the board.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Over the last year, roughly nine point one percent of
credit card balances transitioned into And I'm just going to
say this, if you have a lot of credit card debt,
do whatever you need to do to address it. Putting
your head in the sand and just saying I'll think
about it tomorrow. I'll think about it tomorrow is the
worst thing you can do with credit card debt. If
you need to get credit counseling, do that. Debt consolidation counseling,

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do that. If you have a home and you can
tap in your home's equity, call American Financing. Do not
get delinquent, because once you get delinquent, all of those
other options get a lot harder.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Address it. You can do this, I know because I've
done it successfully multiple times. That is your two minute drill,
ladies and jerps.

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
I'm excited. Should we you know, should we have a guest?
Should we have a studio audience for the Kowa cast?

Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
Should we do that?

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
I mean it would get hot in here.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
You know, oh like an audience in here? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
Then they can react to our cleverness. Or it would
be totally fun. That would be fun, and we have
a contact, we do it studio. See maybe I like
I like looking here because yeah, all the hookups in here,
the audio?

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
What what bar should we set up for people to
be able to come in here and watch the show?
I mean they have to bring us gifts?

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Right, literal bar?

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
No, no, no, we don't want to know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
We don't want to responsible for popcorn.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
But no, they should have to bring a gift, right,
like some kind of offering you know? Here you go, guys,
I mean I think it'd be super fun. It would
be really really fun.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
It's our max in there, man, I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
That would be pushing it. I have folding chairs, so
I could bring folding chairs and set them up right
over there.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
Okay some s ro oh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Yeah yeah, definitely yeah, I mean yeah, it could work.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
So you have to make sure everybody bathes. Everybody has
to have brush their teeth and bathed before they get here.
Although I am bringing the popcorn, the smells like farts
again because it's my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Why because it's delicious.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
I have to be in there.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
A little a little nutritional yeast on your popcorn tastes
like cheese.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
It's not just nor good. I don't care if it's good.
It smells good.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
I mean, you know what, I take it back because
I do call a flower ice everywhere and it doesn't
smell great.

Speaker 6 (01:17:13):
And yeah, I make people put up with it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
So Mandy, please don't use any of that AI created
so called music. I don't think your target audience is
twenty one year old's in a loud bar. Thank you
for helping the rest of us maintain sanity in this
upset world. Carol from Lovelin Carol, I'm going to continue
using the Mandy Connell theme song, even though people thought
that it said ruins the day, ruse the day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
No, No, I mean that could be that could be it.
I would love to do a video to the listenermo
a Rod, like a whole video.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
Wouldn't it be great?

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
We get everybody that's ever been associated, We get the
wine yog be coming.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
It with a bottle of wine and some glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
And then she does the fake sitcom and head back laughter.
She can do that. Michelle Zelner just be over there
doing pushups and then stands up with perfect posture.

Speaker 7 (01:18:05):
And we're like king say when it's someone that makes
like a special appearance, like is it not Sphy, it's
a special guest star?

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
Hey, look at Zave Blauer.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
That's for one episode only Dave comes in grumpy looking ah,
waving a newspaper at someone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Oh yeah, I mean that would be super fun.

Speaker 6 (01:18:24):
Oh gosh, we'll be right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Back, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
What has happened in this crazy teena Peter's trial? And
I said, stick around to thirty. Jimmy Singenberger's coming in here.
He has been watching the whole dang thing.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
Maybe I can.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
Oh, you know what, Jimmy is a musician, So my
musical about the teena Peter Saga. Maybe we can do
the entire score on the harmonica.

Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
I mean, he always has.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Them with him, I know exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
I gotta find out if he writes and composes harmonica music,
because that in and of itself. I mean, imagine submitting
a Broadway musical with only a harmonica and a kazoo.
I got my kazoo in my a bag. Never go
anywhere without my kazoo in my bag. You think I'm kidding,
I am not. Really, it's the only good to know.
I mean, you gotta play it now?

Speaker 6 (01:19:10):
Well you know you really don't You know? You play
right into the Come on, you know you come? I
want to hear it? Do you always have it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Someone get Oh the DreamWorks people gave it to me.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
Let's hear it. That's the kazoo.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
So Jimmy and I can do an entire score for
our Broadway musical. I haven't written yet on the teen
of Peter Saga saga with just harmonica and kazoo, we've
got a hit to the friend of Wicked. No, he
has to make up the tune. That's the thing. I
can write the lyrics, no big whoop. After I write
the play no big whoop.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
I can totally do this.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
I mean, this is one of the We have so
many absurd stories in Colorado constantly, and it's almost.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
Like we're we're we're practically.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
Florida man, a Rod, We're very close, like Colorado person
is very close to Florida man. People get more passionate
about Bill breaking old Geezer records and smashing a twenty
four year old battie as the oh. These are all
text messages for the afternoon. Guys, who are we talking

(01:20:15):
about here? About Smokey Bear. We talked about Smoky Bear,
not Smoky the Bear earlier. Hi, Mandy, Tim, your travel
buddy here as a former forest service employee, you are correct,
it's Smokey Bear, not Smoky the Bear. Sorry, A Rod,
I was reading the text. Yeah, there you go, There

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you go. All right, So I have oh oh. I
want to just direct your attention to something on the blog.
I watched this this morning because we talk about transgender
issues and everything, but we don't ever talk about the
actual medical care part, other than the effect of puberty

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blockers and cross sex hormones on young children. But Candice
Owens did an interview with a trans woman named Brianna
Ivy and what is happening medically to some of these
people who go through a full transition with bottom surgery

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and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
It sounds like a war crime, what they're doing to
these people.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
And Brianna Ivory has never been the same ever, and
the surgery, I guess you could say it did not take.
And this is the most heartbreaking interview you are going
to hear. But when someone tells you that, you know,
calling a kid by the opposite gender is no big deal.
Studies have shown that if not affirmed in social ways,

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most kids grow out of being transgender. A vast majority,
like eighty percent grow out of being transgender. But kids
who are affirmed socially all often move on to medical transformations.
So there is a big deal if this is what
we're moving them to. Because the science of this kind
of surgery is obviously not where it needs to be,

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and these people are experiments. Every single surgery is a
doctor experimenting on their technique, trying to make it better,
trying to make it work. And some of these folks
are left in constant pain for the foreseeable future, if
not the rest of their lives. What's happening is it's
criminal and this interview is incredibly haunting. So yeah, we

(01:22:35):
are going to take a quick time out. Jimmy Seckenberger's
maybe be here when we get back oo tonight on PBS.
If you ever watched The Devil's Advocate with John Caldera,
he has Roger Pilke Junior on. Roger is a researcher
and scientist who has run a foul of climate scientists
by pointing out that sometimes their science doesn't match their rhetoric.

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It's a great interview. I'll watch this morning. It's on
the blog as well, and Betted already if you want
to watch it, we will be right back. Yes, those
are the gust tones of Jimmy Segenberger playing the harmonica,
which I might add he did not bring with him today,

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so luckily a rod had captured.

Speaker 11 (01:23:22):
This is your harmonica playing a rare moment where I
didn't bring my harps.

Speaker 6 (01:23:26):
You feel negad, don't you do?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
You feel naked right now?

Speaker 11 (01:23:30):
It's uncomfortable, not as uncomfortable as folks at Tina Peters trial.

Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
My goodness, and Jimmy, I just want to say.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
This, I am so grateful that you are watching this
whole thing.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
Just elbow, just just wall to wall, elbow to elbow.
You're watching the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Thing, so the rest of us don't have to.

Speaker 11 (01:23:46):
I've probably missed only about ten percent, if even probably
five percent of this.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
You know, when you started, were you expecting something boring
or were you expecting the insane dumpster fire.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
That is this week?

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
Somewhere in between.

Speaker 11 (01:24:02):
It has been really bonkers in ways that I never anticipated.
And it's gone on a lot longer than anyone really anticipated,
because there was an expectation that the prosecution would have
finished up by Wednesday, most likely, and then you just
have a couple more days for the defense to make
their case if they wanted to, which, astonishingly they actually

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are making a case, although I can't determine what the
case is at this point. And then you'd probably have
the jury deliberate on Monday and be done if that,
If even that, now we're probably looking at testimony into Monday,
maybe even Tuesday. Wow, because the defense and I write
about this in the Denver Gazette today, I believe to
that today. Thank you, the defense kept asking questions that

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were irrelevant, oftentimes trying to bring the conversation into election conspiracy.

Speaker 6 (01:24:50):
Territory or other areas where.

Speaker 11 (01:24:52):
The judge would sustain objections on relevance ground. And in fact,
last night and then reiterated today, the judge told, with
the jury out of the room, told the attorneys for
Tina Peters that they could be subject to sanctions like
contempt if.

Speaker 6 (01:25:08):
They keep bringing it up. Now that kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Yeah, had the judge decided before the trial to not
admit any of this because the defense that the defense
seemed to have been trying to launch is a defense
of we were on the side of God, right, we
were doing the right thing, literally, even though what they
alleged they were trying to prevent has never been proven
exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
So the ends justify the means.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Does it work if the means do not actually exist?

Speaker 11 (01:25:35):
That's precisely right, except they want to try and make
it seem like right, the ends actually exist, that they
achieved something, exposed something. But there were pre trial orders
from the judge saying you can't bring this stuff in,
and they have continually pushed the envelope, and the judge gave.

Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
Them a lot of latitude.

Speaker 11 (01:25:54):
In fact, on Monday he allowed forty minutes for one
of the attorneys, a guy named Dan Hartman, and all
the guys are attorneys for other election conspiracy theorists and
so forth around the country. And this guy, Dan Hartman,
spent almost forty minutes throwing everything he could up against
the wall to see what would stick when it comes
to election conspiracies and all kinds of things. The judge

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has given them tremendous, extraordinary latitude.

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
There was an hour and a half day.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Get it in front of the jury. Are they getting that?

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
And they're asking those questions outside because in all honesty,
if you get one person who believes that the election
was stolen, and you can get enough of these little
accusations in there, you could conceivably hang the jury.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Just from that alone.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
Well, I think that's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 11 (01:26:37):
So all the q and a's with the witnesses have
been in front of the jury, right, But there are
these times where the jury's out so that arguments can
be made about what kinds of things can be allowed,
whether or not witnesses should come in, and even just
a little bit ago, whether or not Tina Peters herself
might in fact testify, which we don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
But you said she was giving her conditions to the
judge about whether or not she would testify.

Speaker 6 (01:27:06):
Walk me through that process. So suddenly, wait before we
do that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
A lot of people do not follow this case. So
let's give the overarching case Monday to Friday. The prosecution
what are they prosecuting? And give us that in is
from Neil sketchy.

Speaker 11 (01:27:19):
Away as you can, prosecuting seven felonies and three misdemeanors
for an alleged election security breach. We know a lot
of these things are true. A guy named Gerald Wood
went in and did a background check, got a badge
to allow him access to a secure election room.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
Gave that badge back.

Speaker 11 (01:27:36):
It was then used, he says, without his knowledge, by
a guy named Conan Hayes, who's a cyber hacker, computer
hacker and a former surfer. In the nineteen ninety case,
he is, and he used the badge for gerald Wood,
literally impersonating gerald Wood.

Speaker 6 (01:27:52):
Staff thought that he was.

Speaker 11 (01:27:54):
In fact, gerald would and Secretary of State office employee
did dominion employee.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
Did so was that when Tina Peters had the cameras
turned off in the room. So not to think that
this somehow is just a chain of unfortunate coincidences. There's
evidence that has come out now that Tina Peters underlings
who have now flipped on her and testified against her,
were asked to have the security cameras turned off for
a conveniently coincidental same period of time that all this

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hacking took place.

Speaker 11 (01:28:23):
May twenty third, Conan Hayes goes in and makes a
copy and image of the hard drive as Gerald would.
That was a before image, so to speak, right, and
then he went back in after this process called the
trusted build, which is really a software update for the
election equipment, and made a second image so that they
could do a before and after comparison. And it was

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like for a week beforehand and then for a couple
months after the cameras were off in something that one
person testified an employee that it hadn't been done I
think in ten years, right.

Speaker 6 (01:28:54):
Ever shut off.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
I've never been asked to turn the hand in.

Speaker 11 (01:28:57):
One instance, and I begin my column today by talking
about this that either it was Tina Peters, might have
been her lawyer, but either way, Tina was on the
call instructing the two senior employees who flipped on her,
who were charged and flipped to get burner phones and
use burner phones for communications.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
This is like the worst episode of the Sopranos ever.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
Okay, this is like bumbling.

Speaker 5 (01:29:20):
Oh you got to say what Tina was upset about today?

Speaker 11 (01:29:23):
Well, but before that, let me just say, Hollywood couldn't
script this and Scooby Doo wouldn't even do an episode
of it for twenty minutes because they would figure out
right away that it wasn't Gerald would that something was
going on, take off the mask and say you're not Jerry,
You're Conan Hayes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:29:38):
But so Tina Peters, you know, normally when you are charged,
of course you have a Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination.

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
So that means you don't have to testify.

Speaker 11 (01:29:49):
Well, she talked about and I'm semi quoting here, I
want to be sure that cross examination is limited if
I can't tell the jury and this is a wacky
thing that Conan Hayes was a government informant. If this
is not allowed, I would directly affect my decision to testify.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
So she wants to testify that the hacker that Mike
Lindell's people. That's the other thing that's come out of
this trial is that Mike Lindell is the driving force
behind all of this.

Speaker 6 (01:30:15):
He's the one paying our bills.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
He is the one hiring these attorneys who are representing
other election deniers around the country.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
And why would Mike Lindell be doing that, Jimmy.

Speaker 11 (01:30:25):
Because in actually March, February and March of twenty twenty one,
he was sued by Dominion for one point three billion
dollars and lo and behold, if you make claims you
can't back up, you need to figure out a way
to back up those claims.

Speaker 6 (01:30:38):
And so literally, this is one revelation.

Speaker 11 (01:30:41):
It's a little side tour from Tina whether or not
she will testify, but literally, we now know that an
attorney named Kurt Olson is Mike Lindell's attorney. He also
was Carry Lake's attorney in Arizona, and he is the
guy who was the attorney that they communicated with in
some messages that they went back and forth with during
twenty twenty one. Tina Peters or associate Sharona Bishop, who's

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a major player and just testified as well. And what
we learned is that this guy, Kurt Olsen is the
one who connected Sharona Bishop with Conan Hayes, and then
Conan became the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
He shouldn't be working the case, he should be a
part of the case.

Speaker 11 (01:31:22):
Well, so he's not one of the attorneys that's in
there for Tana Nasal, but he was an attorney earlier.
And actually Sharona Bishop in her testimony she actually in
testimony for him. Because the defenses sow out in Looney Land,
they actually brought back the investigator who did the investigation,
very very bright guy for testimony today for their defense.

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And we learned that in the core course of all
this testimony that there was a there was a voicemail
that investigator Cannon had left for Sharona Bishop about her
possibly testifying, and she passed it on to her lawyers. Well,
when asked who are your lawyers, she said John Case

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who's one of Tina's lawyers arguing this case, and Kurt Olsen,
who is again Mike Lindell's lawyer who connected them with
Conan Hayes. And she passed the voicemail message about her
testifying from the prosecution on to those lawyers.

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
Yeah, that's crazy, I mean, this is just this is
absolutely nuts. Now, one of the things that I've heard
in the testimony this week is that at some point
Tina did tell the truth when she said to her
assistant Brenda, I'm blanked. That is the only truthful thing
that has come out of Tina's melth this entire time.

Speaker 11 (01:32:39):
She said that to both Belinda and Iisley, who was
the deputy clerk, and to Sandra Brown, who was the
back office manager for the elections, who were both charged
and then ended up flipping.

Speaker 6 (01:32:53):
Basisly they did.

Speaker 5 (01:32:54):
The two women who flipped on Tina were they asked
if they regretted their role, as you know, were they
asked all about their role other than just testifying.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
I'm curious, do.

Speaker 6 (01:33:03):
I mean, do you think they feel stupid? Wouldn't you
hope they feel stupid? Yes, I mean absolutely.

Speaker 11 (01:33:08):
And in fact, there was one point where Sharona Bishop,
who seems to be sort of throughout this trial, you
learn more that she seems to be more the ringleader
than anybody else in terms of the direct steps of
what happened. Sharona in a phone call with both of
those women while they're at the office and all this
stuff is going down with the Secretary of State Investigation

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directs them to remove the election server that had been
copied in May. This is August of twenty twenty one
that this happened. And she literally said, she being Sandra
Brown to Blenda nicely, you don't want to do that,
or you'll catch a felony.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Right, And they knew, they knew what they were doing
was against the law.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
I mean, some of these things were all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
So if Tina's found guilty of all this, what does
she face.

Speaker 11 (01:33:57):
You know, I haven't seen the specifics because so many
It really depends on what the charges are, but there
is prison time that is definitely possible as a result
of these felony.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
One would think that the judge, having to listen to
all this claptrap of trying to bring in this defense
when he has explicitly said no, that's not going to
make him amenable to a lower sentence.

Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
He has gotten frustrated in a very measured way. I
have to say this about this judge.

Speaker 11 (01:34:24):
I don't like some of the things that he allowed,
in the sense that they are distractions, that they allowed,
some rabbit holes, they wasted time. But he did so
in fairness to the other side, because you know that
they're already saying from the start.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
This is rigged against him. Yes, that this is not
going to go her way.

Speaker 11 (01:34:41):
But he has been extraordinarily fair in giving all this
latitude to Tina Peters and to her defense team, beyond
anything that I would have anticipated. And you could tell
that he's gotten irritated in part because, like I'll give
you an example, yesterday, they bring Sharona Bishop up to
testify as defense witness at four thirty. It'll be forty

(01:35:02):
five minutes here on her. They end up having to
take a break during that time to be able to
discuss some possible evidence, and it was an hour and
a half later, I think about six o'clock that they
broke and still had to finish up direct testimony, let
alone cross examination.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
It's absurd, she wrote, a Bishop.

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
From what I can tell, is just a friend of
Tina Peters. How does she is she the machiavellian mind
behind this? How does she come into play? And why
hasn't she been charged? Yeah, that is actually a big question.
Although here's the thing.

Speaker 11 (01:35:28):
Before she testified yesterday, with the jury out of the room,
the judge gave her an advisement.

Speaker 6 (01:35:34):
There was a discussion about whether or not.

Speaker 11 (01:35:35):
She wanted to testify because the prosecution wanted to make
sure she was aware that she's still under federal investigation
as a suspect.

Speaker 6 (01:35:42):
I suspect that maybe they're looking.

Speaker 11 (01:35:45):
Out for what the FEDS may be doing next and
right now just focusing on Tina Peters and allow the
Feds maybe to do something regarding Sharona Bishop because it
could be something much bigger and they don't feel.

Speaker 6 (01:35:57):
The need to go forward in their case right now.

Speaker 11 (01:36:00):
But she decided to testify Sharonna Bishop, and I really
think and a lot of folks who've been watching this,
very savvy journalists and so forth, were saying, this is
not helping the defense. Very little helped at all. It
was really dragging them down in a lot of ways
having Sharonna Bishop testify.

Speaker 6 (01:36:18):
But her role, I don't know how she sort of
got the ball rolling.

Speaker 11 (01:36:23):
But she's the one who recruited Gerald Wood to be
able to use his badge. She's the one who brought
in Conan hayes On behalf of Mike Lindell to pretend
to be Gerald Wood. She's the one who is really
the folk frum connecting all of these different individuals and She's.

Speaker 6 (01:36:40):
The one, in fact, that got the hotel room for
Conan Hayes to stay. She spent the money on that.
And I just have to say this one thing that's
very important.

Speaker 11 (01:36:49):
I view what they've been asking about dominion elections, a
lot of these things that the judge has determined to
be irrelevant as a fishing expedition about dominion over Mike
Lindell's lawsuit. And I don't just view it that way.
Here is what the judge asked attorney Dan Hartman. It
was for the purposes of his defamation case. And he goes, absolutely,

(01:37:12):
I can assure you, following the trusted build that the
effect was the deletion of the records he needed to
defend his lawsuit. And then John Case is an attorney
who's representing others, so is Dan Hartman.

Speaker 6 (01:37:26):
They've been sharing a dominion in their one of their lawsuits.

Speaker 11 (01:37:31):
Accuses these lawyers of sharing information from Tina Peters case
for their case.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Of course, I.

Speaker 11 (01:37:37):
Mean, of course it's I I say this all underscores
the incestuous connections that expose this underlying strategy, because that's
the word to use.

Speaker 6 (01:37:47):
Wow, it's wild, holy cow.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
So we've to wait until next week to find Tina guilty.

Speaker 11 (01:37:54):
Probably is my guess, but you never know. I mean,
there are some things, so there are Jerry Wood. There
is this signal thread. There's been a big question from
this app signal that the prosecution and their investigator says,
we never saw this thread. But it purports to cast
doubt at least on whether or not Jerry Wood knew

(01:38:14):
that his badge was going to be used, because remember
he says, I had no idea and testified to that effect.
But this one thread that mysteriously is missing the fifteen
second audio message that Sharona Bishop had as context for
whatever it purports to cast out on that. Who knows
the investigator and the prosecution seemed to be dubious as

(01:38:36):
to the legitimacy. Yes, and I'll say that I've interviewed
Jerry Woods several times over the past two and a
half years or so two years, and I found his
explanations and his stories to consistently be extraordinarily credible, which
is why they no longer viewed him as a suspect
at the time of Tina Peter's indictment.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
Okay, so somebody just said, Manny, I'm so lost and
we understand because this is the most convoluted, like after
school special kind of incestuous.

Speaker 6 (01:39:05):
We're doing God's work. We have to ruin.

Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
Democracy to save democracy kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
And it's just it's the whole thing is steeped in absurdity.

Speaker 11 (01:39:14):
And I will say I literally to Listener's point and
my columns saying, if your head is spinning, you're not alone.
This case is a convoluted, tangled mess. But it begs
the question, Mandy, is Tina Peters really being defended here?

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
That is an excellent question.

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
But now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Its kind today. All right, Jimmy Singenberger has agreed to
be the next victim, I mean, player of the It's
gonna be great. That was a weird, evil laugh. But fine,
what is our dad joke of the day. Please.

Speaker 7 (01:39:54):
I had to go to the hospital today. Uh oh,
I told the doctor I've been bitten by a wolf.
The doctor asked me where. I said, No, just an
ordinary one. I'm gonna tell my grandpa that one.

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
That is a good one, very good one. All right.
What is our word of today?

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
Please?

Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
Is an adjective?

Speaker 7 (01:40:15):
Jimmy you try to guess what the word man, Yes, zephyreon,
z e p h y r, keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:40:24):
I A N E A n e A hyay. It's
gotta be something.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Gosh, it has to do.

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
With with flying or floating or you're in the ballpark. Goodness,
that's something that's like a shooting star, something.

Speaker 7 (01:40:43):
That's Jimmy best guess. Zephyrion. It is of the zephyr culture.

Speaker 6 (01:40:50):
It's like there is no getting in the spirit of
things good, full of or containing light breezes. Oh, okay,
today's trivia question.

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
The brothers Grimm were German soul scholars and linguists who
are best known today for their collection of folk and
fairy tales.

Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
What were the full names of the Grim brothers. Oh,
I'll take the first names.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
And I didn't know that either is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
One of them. No and no.

Speaker 6 (01:41:19):
Jacob Ludvig, Kyle Glim and Villiem.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Kyle Glynn very well said thank you their work. I
had your German in high school, in middle school.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
The work is considered birth of the modern study of
folklore and fairy tales.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
And if you've never read their original fairy.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
Tales, everyone dies. Okay, just let you know everyone dies,
heads are chopped off, wolf see people. It's very graphic
and violent, and you know it's also a fairy tale.
What Tina Peters defense story?

Speaker 6 (01:41:44):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Very well done, Bring back full circle?

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
What is our Jeopardy category for today? Jimmy?

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
You have to shout out your name, Jimmy, and then
you have to be recognized and then answering the form.

Speaker 6 (01:41:54):
Of a question.

Speaker 10 (01:41:55):
Just like Jeopardy, that category is a discouraging word. Discouraging
word first one, there's actually two words. Okay, someone who
dampens enthusiasm.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
What Jimmy, who's a negative nelly?

Speaker 10 (01:42:12):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
Oh, dang it, Jimmy fuddy duddy. No, but no, a
wet blanket.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
That's a wash. That's pretty good, though.

Speaker 7 (01:42:24):
Come to me and tell me this state of gloominess
comes from words meaning black bile.

Speaker 6 (01:42:31):
Baby?

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
What is that clue?

Speaker 7 (01:42:34):
I have no idea Read it again. Come to me
and tell me the state of gloominess. I'm just gonna
stop there. That's all makes sense.

Speaker 6 (01:42:40):
No, I need to know the rest.

Speaker 7 (01:42:41):
Come to me and tell me the state of gloominess
comes from words meaning black bile.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
And then it has the word baby on there. I
don't know why, makes no sense? Good luck? Umm, it's
obviously a song.

Speaker 11 (01:42:56):
Yes, I don't know the answer. Nothing's coming to mind
now where it starts with an M.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Manny, what is melancholy? I'll go back to zero on that.

Speaker 7 (01:43:07):
Yeah, no, your toothpaste hasn't hit the ground. But this
eleven letter word sure sounds like it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:15):
Dumb clues.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
This is so hard? What is that? I don't I'm
not getting the category.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
I have no idea of a Jimmy urging word, Jimmy platte.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
No, that's a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
What is crestfallen? I'm giving you only.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Half off because I like that normally.

Speaker 6 (01:43:32):
I am too not this one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
That's a hard category.

Speaker 7 (01:43:34):
If you're an outcast, you may be in this discouraged state.
That can also refer to a glance at the ground.
Never heard this word, so good luck.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
Manny, glance at the ground. You're in a discouraged state.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
I have no idea and we're running out of show.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
What is it, Jimmy, Jimmy, what is somber wrong? What
is downcast? Downcast? What's his scoreboard? Real quick?

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
It's minus one, it's zero to minus.

Speaker 6 (01:44:01):
Two built on the Latin for peer. This word means
to belittle or bring reproach upon.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
What is?

Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
I have no idea this one.

Speaker 6 (01:44:11):
You'll feel doupe. Okay, what is disparage there? Who wins?

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
That was me?

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
But it was a shame to win, and Jimmy had
more creative answer. Sobody gives the victory to you? Jimmy does?

Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
I never do that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
It was such a bad category and I performed so badly.
I can't.

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
It's just my reward for spending time watching this Baker's trial.
We gotta go okay.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
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