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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She has a wonderful program and books that can help
you begin your fitness and health journey. And I want
to say it like that because I was with you
when someone at Chuck's sixtieth birthday party walked up and
said it was your book that put me on the
path to better health.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You were the reason.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And I can't tell you what a feeling that is.
Quite honestly, you know, you put something out there and
you don't know if anybody listens, reads, cares, is like whatever, Lady,
who cares what you have to say? So, yeah, when
somebody personally comes up to me and says that it is, yeah,
it's very humbly.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Honestly, it's very great.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's got to be very gratifying to say I have
someone say I took control of my health because of you.
And I always recommend to people who are sort of struggling.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
To take that first step.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Is Michelle's book is fantastic, and Michelle's been instrumental in
my journey, my fitness journey to better health.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And so what are we talking about today? Michelle?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I always used fall to like reset. You know, kids
are back in school, and even if you don't have kids,
you're still The pace of life changes when kids are
in school, traffic changes, everything kind of changes, and so
why not take advantage of this to sort of get
back on track.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, everything does change. It's also National Wellness Month, so
it just seemed like I should come on and talk
about wellness. But yeah, even just people's pace of life
in general. With you and I were talking about like
the constant pace of travel that I've had this summer,
and guests and all the things. And it's really hard
when you're out of your structure to maintain the habits
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that keep you feeling good. And when you recognize that
that's going to come to at least a slow down
or rights, they're going to start to shift and maybe
now I'm going to gear up for a really busy work,
you know, section of the year. It is a mindset shift.
It's just a nice reset reset to take a pause,
reflect on all the great things, maybe give a little
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bit of grace for a little too much eating out,
not enough working out, but doing it because as you're
getting joy and fulfilled in all the other ways, also
recognizing that at some point I got to put the
brakes on that and right back to doing the things
that make me feel good and make me function.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, you're gonna love this.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The irony of what I'm about to tell you will
not be lost on you.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I have a friend. She lives in another city.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
She's been sort of struggling trying to get started with
her weight, and you know what I've been coaching her
on is doing away with all or nothing thinking. There
are things that we've talked about with Michelle in the
past that are really if you just let them into
your brain and you let them into your life, they're
the easiest ways to start. And I want to start
with that because we are seven months away from New
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Year's where we all set intentions and resolutions and everything else,
and maybe last year you can't even remember what your
intentions were at this point.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
But what a great way.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
To sort of reassess where you are by saying, look,
I'm going to change one single thing, one single thing
for me. Ditching all or nothing thinking has been critical.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
For me personally, because before it would be like, oh.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm eating healthy, I'm eating healthy, I'm eating healthy. Oh
I had this, Well, it's all out the window. Now
I should just throw it all to the wind, and
that It's an easy way to sort of throw yourself
back two steps when you've made one step forward in
your view, though, because this is what you do all.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Day, every day.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You'veritten a grea book about it, things like that, What
do you think if you could say two people make
this one mindset shift to get yourself started.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
What is that? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I would say it's the all or nothing that was
in my own journey as well. And that's because all
or nothing mode is our default, right, It's a human default,
and yet it almost never gets anybody where they want
to go for the long run, right. And it wasn't
until I ditched the all or nothing mindset that I
actually made significant progress.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
In my own journey.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
And yet I always say the mind is the hardest
thing to change. But unless and until you change it,
nothing else changes. There's always a reason that it's too hard.
I'll wait until right well after the reunion you have,
after this vacation to Europe, after this big birthday party
that I'm going to, after this weekend wedding that I'm
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going to, after Labor Day or Labor Day, yeah, after Halloween,
after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, there's Christmas after that, and then here we are
New Year's and you're fatter than you were before and
you feel awful. Yeah, So when we're talking about that specifically,
and this is something that seems so simple, but to
your point about us being hardwired, I just read a
fascinating article. There wasn't even about any of the stuff
we're talking about, but it applies one hundred percent. And
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that is that when we feel anxious and stressed and
all or nothing thinking only leads to anxiety and stress
because you failed at something again and then you beat
yourself up and all that stuff. But when we feel
anxiety or stress, our default position that our brain goes
to is protect yourself. And the devil, you know, is
always better than the devil. You don't so reckyzing that
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that all of these things where you're sort of beating
yourself up for not living up to your diet every
single moment. Oh, I ate chips at work today. You
know what, you ate chips at work today. You're not
going to die from it if you tomorrow you get
up and you start over and say, you know what,
today's a new day. But that shift, it's like your
brain doesn't want you to make that shift because it's
protecting yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, And a lot of it has to go to
the perfectionist mentality, Right, I have to do all perfectly
or I won't see the result. And if I don't
see the result, then what's the point, right? And so
another big piece of the mindset shift that I think
is helpful is to let go of the outcome and
just recognize that everything that I do that is good
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for a human, to help a human be healthy, happy, nurtured,
and nourished, is good. Whether I see the outcome or not,
it's still good and it's probably going to benefit me
at some point. We often get very fixated on the outcome,
which is natural, right, I do too right? And yet
I know that if I only focus on an outcome
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and I don't see it when I think I should
see it, right, I don't see it because I'm doing
all the things. Well, there's a good chance you're not
doing all the things.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And that's what I was going to kind of interject here,
because that almost feels like in some ways for some
people that becomes an excuse mechanism. It becomes an excuse
to say, you know, oh, I'm not I haven't lost
ten pounds in a week and a half. So therefore
I'm doing everything right and I'm not getting the outcome,
so obviously it doesn't work right.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yes, I've actually had people say, well, it didn't work
for me. And when I elaborate or try to have
them elaborate on what that means, it means that they
didn't see the result they thought they should see, right,
And usually it's a number of things. It's maybe that
outcome that you were intending to strive for wasn't realistic,
or there are things that you actually also needed to
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do that you didn't know you needed to do, or
you just needed to keep on doing these things right
and you would actually see them. But we do have,
you know, such a I don't know, this instant gratification
mentality and this desire for the instant outcome with little
to no effort, which now we can have. I can't
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tell you how many people have come to me so
frustrated that they're doing it the right quote unquote right way,
and they have friends who are doing.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It the other way.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And that's the they We're talking about weight loss drugs,
and and those are still viewed by many people as cheating.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I think that they.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Are penny wise and pound foolish in the grand scheme
of things, I think long term people are going some
people are going to really regret that choice.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I you know, I hope not, but I won't be
surprised if they do. I think back to when Finn
fen gonna save everybody, right.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, they gave us all speed, That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'm never gonna have an obesity problem ever again because
of fen Fenn.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh no, actually, people are dying of heart attacks. I
probably should have checked that out before we did anything else.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, And so you know, it's the same like with
an anything else, if you are using something whatever that is.
I mean, I do supplements, I do probiotics, I do collagen.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I'm a big fan of peptides.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I'm a big fan of lots of things that help
your body function optimally that you can't get from just
food and nutrition. I'm sorry, food and exercise, but it's
not in lieu of proper nutrition and exercise. It is
to support proper nutrition and exercise and sleep and stress
management and all the things.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I was watching an interview with Peter Attia, a longevity expert,
and somebody else I don't remember who else. Was on
the thing and they were asking. The interviewer was asking
about supplements, and he said, look, I can sider and
talk about supplements all day long, but if you're not
exercising and eating good food, the supplements don't matter. So
we've got to make sure that people are doing those
basic things before we talk about what supplements are going to.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Help you reach your goals.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
If you're not doing the underlying stuff, nothing is No
supplement is going to.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Help you reach your goals, right, And I think that
is just again people's desire to have this one really easy,
quick fix. Just tell me what to do and I
will have all of the magical outcomes that I want.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, you know, Michelle has a program called the U
University and it is really really really good. And right now,
what are you doing? You got a special for our listeners.
What is happening there? Tell me about that?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So, since August it's National Wellness Month, I want to
celebrate that and help everybody be the healthiest, happiest versions
of themselves. And so it's all of the things that
I teach and talk. If you have me come into
your corporation do corporate wellness trainings. These are all the
topics that I teach and talk on. I created an
online version of that called U Revolution University, and it's
(09:39):
fifty percent off for your full tuition package, which I'm
just going to tell you is like the best deal
you will ever find.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
In the whole wide world.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
If you're looking for the right motivation, though, it's it
really is. I mean Michelle's I'd say it all the time,
and I'm not kidding. I hear Michelle's voice in my
head on a regular basis. It's going to be hard
now or it's going to be hard later. That's the
one that gets me up when I don't I feel
like working out and I'm feeling lazy, and I think
to myself, it's going to be hard now or it's
going to be hard later, And I always choose hard
now because hard later is going to be worse. PFF
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is your BFF. That is protein, fat and fiber is
your best friend forever. That's in my head all the time,
just little I call them michelle isms, and they're very inspiring.
So if you're looking for something to kind of help
you get over the hump, like get the motivation, motivation
is one of those things like people like I.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Know I need to do this. How do I get motivated?
How do they get motivated?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I wish I had that answer, mat Ye, I would
not you know, I wouldn't be here sitting with you
if I had the answer. Yes, motivation, you either have
it or you decide to create it. Right, what do
you want for your life? And you can sit here
a year from now and still be wondering how do
I get motivated? Or you can say, you know what,
here's one thing I can do differently today. I'm not
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drinking enough water, So let me start with that. Let
me start with making sure I'm drinking water every day.
I'm not getting out a quit movement in my day.
Let me focus on that. Let me make sure I'm
moving my body as much as I can, as hard
as I can, as often as I can. I'm not
eating PFF every two to four hours. Let me figure
out what is the why? All this craze about PFF
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is your BFF? What is that even about? Try it
and then come back and tell me what it's about.
I promise you know, these are just very simple things
that I think. Because they's sometimes so simple, people don't
appreciate that they can have a significant impact well.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And Michelle's Elner is my guest, and I put on
the blog today a link to U Revolution classes you
can get and the promo code to use if you
want to get fifty percent off. But I want to
ask you about the gymnastics thing, because you guys may
not know Michelle was a competitive gymnast for a long time,
and you have feelings about this. That's Jordan Chiles, Romanian
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and I feel bad. I don't know the Romanian gymnasts name,
but she she's just a Romanian gymnasts.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't feel bad.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Not since Satya Komanicici have we need to know the
name of a Romanian gymnast.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, gosh, it's awful. You know, judges have one job, yes,
and it's a pretty big job, and you know you
have to get it right. And when somebody files an
appeal and that is an acceptable part of the program,
and you make that decision, then we can't go back
days later. It's like watching Super Bowl film and saying,
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you know what, that ref got it wrong, right, So
we're going to go back and pretend all the other
things didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We're gonna give the Super.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Bowl ring to that other team, and that is what
they did because apparently there were some viral video of
the Romanian gymnast. She got dinged for stepping out of bounds,
but this video after the Olympics showed she did not,
and they went back and gave her.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
The point back.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So essentially they had they instituted instant well not so
instant replay with no rules changes of any sort, and
judges are making decisions that are stripping metals based on
things that they did not see properly at the event.
No inquiry was filed that I know. I mean, I
know they filed one about the Jordan child thing, but
this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well, and the really unfortunate part of all of this,
of course, is that it's coming down on the gymnasts, right,
I know, they're getting a lot of like, well, you
just need to give your metal back and you need
to be a good sport.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
It quit being a spoiled sport.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's the judges.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The judges are the ones who should be getting I
don't know, why, why can't we just give a bronze
medal to everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Let's just make it simple.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, you know, we screwed up here, let's just fix
it this way exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But they didn't do that. They did not do that
at all.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Uh, Michelle, it's a joy to see you as well,
and you guys should sign up for her coursework because
I'm telling you it.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It has been a.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Huge, huge part of my own personal mindset shift and
everything else has to start with the mindset shift.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
You can't force yourself into you. Actually you can. I've
done it a million times.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You can force yourself to do any diet in the world.
But if your mindset shift is not this is I'm
never gonna get this big again. I'm gonna change my habits,
I'm gonna eat better, I'm gonna do the right things,
then you're gonna get it all back.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I know this because I've done this like a
billion times.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And Nandy, I also always want to stress it's not
just about weight and weight loss.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
This is this is about your health.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So even if you are of a healthy weight, but
you have anxiety about whatever it is, again, that's a
huge mindset thing. Right. Even if you're a healthy weight,
guess what, You're still a human who would like to
be strong and fit. So exercise is probably still something
you need to do. So it isn't just about weight loss,
and you know, looking a certain way, it's about your health,
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your quality of life, if you want to be a
customer of big Pharma for the rest of your life,
or if you'd like to try to prevent some of
those things.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And let's be real, there's now more and more studies
out that show that being overweight in a constant state
of inflammation because of the standard American diet, which is
short I mean they shorten it to sad for a reason.
The standard American diet is giving us Alzheimer's, it's giving
us dementia, it's giving heart disease and strokes and heart attack.
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Don't be a part of that statistic. Be a part
of the statistic. Amounts back to sign up for the
U Revolution. I put the link on the blog today
fifty percent off. There's a promo code on the blog today.
Use that joy to see you, my friend,