08-15-24 FULL SHOW - A Deep Dive Into Aurora Water, and Affordable Arts Festival

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
To a Thursday edition of the show. I'm your host
for the next three hours, Mandycondle, joined of course by
my right hand man, Anthony Rodriguez. You can call him
a rod and we will take you right up until
three o'clock to day when KOA Sports will take over.
In the meantime, though, I have a ginormous blog today
and so much to talk about, so so much to

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talk about. Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com.
That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says
eight fifteen to twenty four blog a deep dive into
Aurora Water and Affordable Arts Festival. Click on that and
here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
I think it was some in office half of American
all with ships and clipments and seen that's going to
press plat.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Today on the blog.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Who knew there was so much drama with Aurora Water?
The DNC is next week. The Affordable Arts Festival is
almost here. One hundred and fifty five million gets us
more homeless people. The governor doesn't want us to vote
on property taxes. The RTD chief doesn't seem to work much.
Springs voters will decide about recreational weed stores. Tina Peters

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is going to appeal Landmark Theaters is being auctioned off.
Leave your Neighbors campaign signs alone. The shooting at the
sixteenth Street Mall was caught on film. What do people
at Kamala's rally really think of her accomplishments. It's time
for cell phones to be locked out of school time.
We age faster at mid forty and early sixties than

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at other times. Fake followers and reviews are now ill legal.
Want to save off dementia? Get a purpose? The TSA
is giving bombs to homeless people. Ross and I in
our throwback clothes. A cyber squatter strikes it rich with
Harris Walls dot com. Things that make us feel old.
The era of the free ride is over.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Who will slip?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Smith slapped helped an unexpected person. A husband tried to
get proper notice to his wife. Kamala Harris was for
grabbing tips before she stole Trump's plan. If you love
fake movie theater butter, those are the headlines on the
blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And I almost did not
include the last video because I am fundamentally opposed to

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the butter flavor topping that you get at a movie theater.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
That is not butter. You mean butter. No, it's butter.
It's butter with air quotes around it. Butter. It's not butter.
It's movie theater butter. It's movie theater butter product. You
better believe it's butter. Mevie theater butter topping. Also, this idea,
what is it you've never seen that? I have seen
this before.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
I mean I have not.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I have to you've not seen the straw hold it
off and get the butter through.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
The whole thing been around the beginning of the internet,
this has been around for a very long time. But
I'm an anti movie theater.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
Let's see what someone attached to their screens much more
than you. I've never seen this, and this is genius.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
It's just buttery topping. It's no, it's not It's not
like spread butter on toast.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Butter but it's not even remotely butter, Like, what what
the heck is it? But it's not, it is not
at all, not at all. But no, because it's not.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
It's not good.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
You have a proposition sixty five warning, which means that
that it that it could give you cancer, birth defects
or something.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Lot of things can nowadays. Yeah, I'm just trying.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Oh wait a minute, here's something from the Winco Benchmark
Buttery popcorn topping website, perfect for adding flavor in a
roma to popcorn. It's an economical alternative to butter or
other oils that will not sacrifice flavor.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
So what is it?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Butter?

Speaker 8 (04:07):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
It looks like butter, but it's not butter and smell.
They don't even put the ingredients on here. Liquid butter,
no liquid goldie goodness. No, it's just gross, fatty fat,
fat fat. This person said, I can't believe it's not butter.
I can, can you just can we not have nice things?
It's not, it's gross. You don't like movie feed or

(04:31):
popcorn butter? No, I don't butter topping ingreedy ingredients. It's
only twelve ten and you chose violence today. Okay, Here's what.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
It is, synthetic butter, flavoring flavacall hydrogenated soybean oil, beta
carotene and other additives. Yum, how's your big scraw full
of hydradated soybean oil, beta carotene and flavor.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Call Terrance was bliss, Thanks for nothing.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah, I have it often, but every now and then,
this genius idea to put it through the straw and
then raise up the straw as you go keeps it
so the top layer is not the only place that
has the.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
You know, the buttery topping. I will give the idea credit.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I absolutely will. I will give them than the spray bottle. Yeah, well,
the spray bottle.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
I actually used to take a spray bottle of spray
butter into the real butter.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
You would bring the chemicals, but I don't.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
To be because because I've learned so much over the years.
You missed the story yesterday because you didn't do the
one hour show.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
There was a story yesterday.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
They have this new rash of.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Young people that are getting cancer. They're getting colon cancer,
they're getting all of these cancers. And this doctor said, look,
all of my patients under fifty have one thing in common.
They eat a ultra processed food diet, and all that
stuff is ultra processed food.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Hey, I am right there with you again. That on
a regular basis, But every now and then, every now
and then says butter, which I'm gonna keep calling butter
at the movie theater Buttery topping now and then is
nice to have, yeah, all the time, once in.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
A blue moon, this text are just texted, Ay a rod,
I dare you to find and read the ingredients of
movie theater popcorn butter.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
All I already did that, already did that hard pass.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Okay, ignorance is blessed. Okay, I don't have that offense.
So every now and then leave me alone.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
You know what, every now and then I like Joe food,
so I can't knock that.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Thank you. You got to make eighty percent of your
diet real food ninety real food ninety. That's a big
reach for a lot of people. Oh you know what
if you eat a lot.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Of stuff that comes out of boxes ultra process.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
To reach for good health and the arm extension that
can help you with that s O t A Weight
loss dot com.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Army Butter is good me eat any butter. But that's
not it's buttery topping. It's like vilvida. Cheese is not cheese.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
It is a cheese food, So they cannot believe it's
not butter brand What is that?

Speaker 5 (07:02):
That is margarine? That's a canful of chemicals.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Do not eat that side. I don't don't. Margarine is
not a food. You probably remember better than I. What's
the butter substitute we had on soda? What was that called?
Do you remember?

Speaker 5 (07:15):
But it might have been butter, but it was a
really healthy, the grass fed butter like carry gold butter. Yes,
that's why I use that every day.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Correct, same so, and.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
It's delicious and it's not buttery topping, it's real butter. Anyway,
Mandy don't like movie theater popcorn because she likes her
smelling like feet. That is accurate. No, I love movie
theater popcorn. Let's be let me back that train up
to the station. I love movie theater popcorn, but not
with the buttery topping on.

Speaker 8 (07:41):
So what do you do?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
You bring your own? No, I don't belave a call
on it.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh I know.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
A call in it.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
You just eat the plane the plan popcorn. Sometimes I
put some more salt in it. Well, you're insane. I
love popcorn, I'm a purist, but without anything on it,
it's planned. It's not even worth having.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, it movies that a popcorn tastes good without the
buttery topic.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
It does. Yes, it does with nothing on it. Yes,
it's nothing.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
They handed to you with salt already.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
On there, says who. I don't think so, Yes they do.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
When they make the movie theater popcorn. You know the
big buckets that they pour. First, they pour a packet
of oil, because it's all pre measured. Then they pour
a packet of what's called flava call. Flava call is
a buttery flavor. It's the stuff that gives the popcorn
the yellow tinge. That's flava call, and it's got salt,
a crap ton of salt in it. Then they pour
the kernels in and then bada bing botta boom, the

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popcorn is made and you get that big old scoop
and it's been rolling around in the flava call until
it gets pushed out.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I've seen them do that process.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
You're probably right, but it doesn't taste like it, Okay, yes,
sometimes that's fair.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
It tastes like you could have used more. Yeah, why
are you skimping on the goodies?

Speaker 5 (08:52):
I'm just saying this person says it gonna die anyway,
eat on. You know what, There's a lot of truth
in that. But I want to live on healthily, feel good, be.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Good, look good, no blattery topping.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Anyway, Moving on today on the show, we actually have
serious topics that are coming up. I'm very excited the
Denver Gazette David mcgoya is coming in. He's written just
a really really good series on this kind of kind
of crazy story that Aurora Water has been going through,
and I'm interested. I have so many questions for David

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about this story, and it has to do with water
development and water rights to an old gold mine in
Park County, and David has done a great job. First
of all, if you do not understand how water rights
work in Colorado, maybe you're new here. Because when I
moved here, I've always lived in places with a crap

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ton of water, like rain every day. We don't have
to worry about, you know, water shortages and things of
that nature. So when I got out to Colorado, I
was like, what is the deal with water? And I
found out we could have a rain barrel, and I
was like, what, water rights are very important because we
are a high desert climate and we need water for
all of us to live, so it is a huge issue,

(10:08):
and Aurora tried to secure another source of water. But
it seems to me like the developer here, well, you know,
he's gotten some pretty good deals, large chunks of money
from Aurora to keep him afloat. The story is kind
of crazy. See what I did there, keep him float?

(10:28):
I did that one on purpose because I'm talking about water,
just to give me There you go. So David's coming
in at one.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
We're going to talk to him.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Rob Dawson is going to pop in at two because
next week Rob A, Rod, and I will be at
the DNC, and I want to I've really been thinking
about this because I am going into the DNC with
this attitude. I am going as your reporter. I am
going to bring you the DNC like we brought you
the RNC. I'm not going there to argue my policy positions.

(11:01):
In a perfect world, I will interview Democrats who don't
know me, and they will have no idea of my
political affiliation.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
That is what I'm shooting for. As part of that
very line of thinking.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
So far, we've told everyone, We have reached out to
all of the representatives and said, well, how's that going.
John Hickenloopers, Michael Bennett both coming on next week. Confirmed
and additional representatives are currently being efforted to get on
as well.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And we tell you people to be clear.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Some of our Democratic representatives are not going to be
at the DMCA, so we're not necessarily going.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
To talk to that totally find you there. Kraveo is
one who will not be in attendance. We've chatted with
some others that may or may not, but we've reached
out and really good lines of communication with.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Most of their teams.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
They either have been confirmed like Senator Hickenlooper and Center Bennett,
or in the process of being confirmed to come on
our show.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
So we're covering all our bases here. We are doing
our best, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
And I'm hoping it's like it is at the RNC,
where people are literally walking around saying, this person wants
to talk about this policy position, this person wants and
you know, we took the ones that we thought were interesting. Yeah,
so I'm hoping some of that's going to go. But well,
when we're talking to Rob I'd like to in the
two o'clock hour kind of get a feel from you
guys about questions that I could prepare that would be respectful,

(12:19):
but you would like to have answered respectful is the
key here, right, You've got like if you say, Mandy,
I want to know why they're ruining the country, that
is not a respectful question. So if you have a
specific question, I'm gonna write them down. I'm going to
put him in my little my little notebook that I'm
going to take with me next week, and.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
I am going to refer to them to when I
talk to people.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
And honestly, I anticipate very informative and in a good way,
challenging interviews where both sides, you and others challenge one
another on different topics.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
It's gonna be fun. I'm really really excited. I'm looking
forward to it. I sent the picture to yesterday. How
about the heavy hitters of speakers at the DMCA A.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Well, can we you know what, let's talk about this
for a second before let people know we also have
Jim Deludis today at two thirty.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
The Affordable Art.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Show is right around the corner, and I already perused
the Affordable art show website, and there is some spectacular art.
I don't have any room left in my house to
hang stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I really don't.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
It's all my walls are taken.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
And there's a couple of paintings that I will be
going to the Affordable Arts Festival to try and get.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I don't know where I'm gonna put it, but I got.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
My I on PU already, and I'm not telling you
which too.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
It's not going to be a thing.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yeah, let's move backwards in this order of speakers that
I sent to you and Rob DAWs NAEs today, we're
going to move backwards for a reason. Wednesday Bill Clinton, yep,
well we speaking to DNZ.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Oh, just a guy named Barack Obama for president the
night say well Monday, Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
No you've got this. No, no, I got it.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
I got it right. No, no, no, because the first
night is Monday.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
No I no, no, no, I know Wednesday Tuesday, Hillary
is also Monday, so Wednesday two on Monday. Wednesday is
Bill Tuesday Obama, Monday, Hillary Clinton and also Monday. Oh
I don't know, just President United States Joe Biden on Monday.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Do you have I mean that is a gross slap
in the face to the current president of the United
States of America because traditionally the president would speak on
the last night of the convention, perhaps to even you know,
introduce and kind of give the blessing the passing of
the torch to the candidate. And that the fact they're
putting him on Monday, and it's probably look at four

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point thirty.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh, what if it's after five? Ooh, it's gonna be.
It's probably gonna be.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Okay, here's my my solid solemn valve for you people.
I will be somewhere on the out route for that.
I'm going to catch him going in or out of
the building. I'm not going to talk to him. They
won't near him, but I will give you a full
report on how he appears. Unless can they drive into
the United Center. I bet they can. I bet they
can underneath dang it is that not.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
A lock into this thing from the get go message,
because they're not missing a beat. They are going b
line towards pay attention all four days of this thing
starting Monday, with the current President of the United States,
Joe Biden. That's what this is to me, Because we
saw the speaker lineups each and every day, and we
would sit there and go, Okay, that's a can't miss. Okay,
we want to definitely be there for that. This is

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right from the jump. Everyone start paying attention. All four
days are starting with Biden.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
That's what this is. And these are headline I mean,
there's a big hit or I think you're I think you.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Are putting an optimistic spin on this. I don't think
he's going to be around for the rest of the convention.
I think they're putting him on stage to get him
out of the way because they don't want anyone to
think about Joe Biden when they think about Kamala Harris
that politically, that's what's happened.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
It gets eyeball.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
This is very optimistic. I think it's gonna have eyeballs anyway.
I think I think that this d NC is going
to be very very watched, not just by Democrats, but
by you know, independence people in the middle of the road,
people whose votes through up for grab and they watched
the RNC to a certain extent, But ultimately it's still.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Going to be political.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
You know.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Well, let me ask you this then real quick, because
after the assassination attempt, the following What was the RNC
The messaging was clearly that they said was going to
be unity. If you had to put one or two
words on what their overall overarching theme will be the
DNC next week, what would that be? Unity was for
the RNC after the assassination attempt. What is their main
message across all the speakers for the DNZ.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Hmm, I'd like to think on that and come back
to that in a bit.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Question.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
This is a very good question.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
The question I would like you to ask of the
DNC is what is your plan to eliminate the federal
debt and get the spending under control? Now, that would
require a specific guest, So we'll see if we can
get some economic.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Guests heavy on e Conya right now, both sides, Well,
it's fair.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
I Kamala Harris, I guess today is going to give
a speech where she is going to unveil her economic
plan and the only thing they put out ahead of
time is something so dumb and clearly illegal that I
don't know how she thinks this is going to work.

(17:07):
She said she was going to create a federal law
banning price gouging by corporations to go after corporations who
enjoyed insane profits in the last two or three quarters.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
And here's the problem with that.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
If you are going to put a cap on how
much someone can earn, then you have to put a
cap on how much someone can lose. It will ever happen,
by the way, because businesses stand to lose all the time.
Every day they go in, business could go south and
they could be out of business. And at that point
everything they put up, all of the collateral that they
put forward, maybe they tied it to their house to

(17:42):
you back the loan, all of that stuff just goes away.
Capitalism is a game of risk, and capitalism is a
game of market responses. I saw an article yesterday.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
You know what, Let me do this.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Let me take a time out, and then we will
come back and I will go into this a little
bit because I thought about this yesterday. I saw a
story yesterday. I'll share it. I'll share it with you
after week. I don't want to get into it. And then,
you know, get stuck here. But we'll check on the news,
traffic and weather. When we get back, I'll tell you
what I was going to tell you. Just stick around

(18:14):
for more that we had all pulled back our spending completely,
we'd be in a full recession, and we're not because
consumer spending makes up a vast majority of GDP. When
you get right down to it, consumer spending is part
of GDP. So consumers are no longer buying brand name items.
They're shopping on price, they're buying cheaper options, they're buying

(18:39):
fewer of the same things, and corporations.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Are starting to take note. Now.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Common Layers is proposing a law against price gouging, and
there are similar laws, like in Florida, they have an
anti price gouging law after hurricanes because what happens is
the gas stations, the ones that remain open, they will
jack their prices up considerably after a big storm.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
But there's a reason for it.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
And this is why I don't think anyone's ever been
convicted of breaking the anti gouging law. Is because they
can demonstrate that there's no certainty that they are going
to be able to replace that fuel along normal supply chains,
and they can demonstrate that emergency shipments of fuel are
going to cost them far more. Now, are they taking profits, Yes,

(19:28):
of course they are, and in situations like the one
we're in now.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
The market works.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
This is why I get so frustrated with government saying
we're going to fix the economy. The only thing the
government can do to fix the economy is not screw
it up in the first place. Stop printing money like
you you know you need another third of the money
supply in in circulation. Stop devaluing the currency. That's how

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government controls how the economy goes.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
They don't make anything, they don't sell anything. And if
you let the market work, it doesn't work instantly. And
I heard Ross say this about a different topic, of
a different aspect of capitalism, but he said, yeah, there's
gonna be losers. Unfortunately there is. There's gonna be people
who have to suffer through high prices before the market
collectively decides no more. I had to buy sodas. We

(20:22):
don't really buy soda at our house. I had to
buy sodas because a bunch of family was coming over
for a barbecue, and et cetera, et cetera, y'all A
twelve pack of PEPSI was nine to ninety nine. When
did that happen? And as I was buying it, I
was like, never again, PEPSI, Never again? I guess I
miss that jack up in price there. But now people

(20:45):
are voting with their feet, and now corporations are starting
to take notice and they are working to bring prices
back down, especially fast food. You know, fast food their
sweet spot are working people who are probably middle class
and below.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I mean, how many times are you in the you know, behind.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Like a Maserati, a Porsche and another really expensive car
in the drive through it's normally like a minivan, pickup truck,
you know, normies, normal people, and they have priced themselves
out of being a regular stop. Now maybe you still
get you know, breakfast at McDonald's once a week, but
you're not getting it twice a week. You're not getting
it three times a week, and they're paying attention. So

(21:26):
whenever your government's saying we're going to pass the law
to fix this, I can guarantee you.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
That it is not going to fix the problem. It
is only going to make it worse.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Every time government steps in and says we're going to
tell an industry how to run their business because we
know better than they do, it ends up with exactly
where we are with Obamacare right now. How many of
you listening in this audience people who do not get
subsidies from the government to pay for their health care.
Because if you are on some Obamacare plan and you
have a subsidy, and let's be real, that subsidy is

(22:01):
other taxpayers money that is paying your premium.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
So I'm not talking to you.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I'm not mad at you, because you know, do what
you gotta do. I'm just saying that's what it is
you aside, how many in this listening audience that pays
out of pocket.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
How many of you, unless you've changed jobs, are paying
less for your health care?

Speaker 5 (22:22):
How many of you don't you know, don't have a
massive deductible and a massive premium. How many of you
lives are better when it comes to health insurance because
of Obamacare. Only the people I would guess who are
being subsidized by.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
The government, those are the only people that have it better.
The rest of us have it far, far worse. That's
what the government does.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
The government comes in not knowing deadly squat about what
they're about to regulate. I will never forget. And I
wasn't even living here. When Representative Diana de get went
on television talking about a magazine van, a high capacity
magazine van, and she said, and I'm not verbatim, but
she said this. She said, they said, well, you know,

(23:09):
people will just get the magazine. They'll just keep the
magazines they have now. And she said, yes, but after
they're used, they can't be used again.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
And I was like what.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
She had no clue what she was working really hard
to restrict, no idea how any of it worked. It's
a perfect and stunning example of what we have when
Congress decides they're going to tell a business how they
should do business, and that's what this is.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
So another disaster.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Mandy, Pepsi twelve PACs are nine dollars, but also two
for one at the store, so twice the diabetes for
half the price. Thank you for saying it, Mandy, Obamacare
is awful. This Texter says, I love how the government
demonizes oil companies yet alex billions in taxes for doing nothing.

(24:03):
They make more per gallon than the gas stations do
with no risk. Correct, Absolutely correct. Mandy Poulus is quoted
is saying, well, and I'm gonna get into that right now.
I'm gonna get into it at a later date. I
got some stuff to absorb yep. Kroger trips for the
price is better than lays that from Jimbo. Mandy, can

(24:24):
we get an anti tax gouging law? We have it
in Colorado. It's called tabor, Only the Democrats figured out
a way to just spend all of our tax refunds
by giving them to other people. Wait until people start
getting their table refunds and they're like two hundred bucks
and they're gonna be like, what, how am I paying
this much in taxes and only getting two hundred bucks back? Well,

(24:44):
because the Democrats gave it to everybody else. Sorry, beat
your luck, Mandy. I'm gonna get into the whole advanced
Colorado the property tax stuff. I am reading as much
as I can right now. I'm trying to get Christy
Burton Brown on the show a sap to discuss. She
will be on the show tomorrow at twelve thirty. Just

(25:05):
confirm that via email. So we're going to get into
all that stuff tomorrow. But what it comes down to,
and I have this on the blog today, the governor
is scared to death that we are going to vote
down our property taxes, and so there will be another
special session coming up where we are supposed to allow
the legislators who have let us down multiple times on
this issue. We're supposed to trust them to come up

(25:28):
with a compromise that's going to be somewhere between the
ballot issues and the current law as it was passed
in this last legislative session. Now, we talked to We
talked to Represented Brandy Bradley about that.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Didn't we a rod the bill?

Speaker 5 (25:42):
I think we did, And after she explained it, I
was like, this is very unsatisfying. That's what I said
to her. It was unsatisfying. Well, the two ballot measures
are very satisfying to me as a taxpayer. But there
is some legitimate concern that the way one of them
is written, it could create havoc for funding mechanisms for
rural school district or rural districts overall. So, I mean,

(26:04):
there are some concerns, but I think people would vote
for it enthusiastically. So they have to nip it in
the bud, cut it off at the pass, and they're
gonna have another special session. But we'll be able to
hear more about that tomorrow at twelve thirty with Christy
Burton Brown from Advanced Colorado. To stick around for that
when we get back I have. I don't want to
do that yet.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Can we talk about the RTD chief A Ron.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
How many days do you think you've scanned in your
card in this building, say in the last four weeks? No,
last four weeks is a bad example. No, four weeks
because you were traveling on the weekend. How many times
do you think you've scanned in and out just outside?
How many days you've been in and out of the building?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Uh, probably all of them, so twenty.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, the RTG chief not so much. I'll explain after this.
I want to remind people that on our Instagram page
at Koa, Colorado, we are currently taking entries for four
ticket to the Todd Helton Night Saturday night at the
Rockies game. And I think the weather is supposed to
be spectacular and Todd Helton will be there.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
It's going to be exciting. So we have a four
pack of tickets.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Just go find the end.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
What is the photo of visit of Todd Hilton. You
see Todd Helton wave into the crowd and the parative.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Legends there you go, there you go, So go find
that and then follow the directions in the caption. I
cannot stress this enough. A Rod does a great job
of giving you directions. All you have to do is
follow them. If you do not follow them to the letter,
your entry does not count. Okay, there you go. Now,
this story is kind of interesting. I had it on

(27:39):
the blog, but I didn't talk about it because there
wasn't anything to talk about. The RTD police chief. His
name is Joel Fitzgerald sor So. He was put on
leave over a month ago, and RTD is not necessarily
explain why. But CBS News Colorado says they've gotten they've

(28:02):
obtained internal memos, and he's being investigated for alleged policy violations. Now,
my guess is that CBS is talking to someone who
works in RTD's police department because they suggested just I mean,
I'm guessing that they was just suggested, Hey hoole, Chief

(28:24):
Fitzgerald's security card swipes. As for that, through Freedom of
Information Act requests those records. According to CBS for show,
Fitzgerald swiped his badge an average of only nine days
a month over his two years leading the department. Now, y'all,
there are jobs that you can do fully remote. There

(28:46):
are jobs that you don't have to see each other
in person. For weeks months at a time, and I
don't think it makes that much difference. If you work
in the tech industry, this may be what you're used to,
but it is my understanding. And if you in law enforcement,
you can always text me on the Common Spirit Health
text line five six six nine oh and let me know.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
If I'm wrong.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
But good leadership needs to be seen. Good leadership needs
to be mixing and mingling among all of the rank
and file. They need to be a presence and they
need to be Well, what's the in the office. How
about let's start with that. Now, I have a lot
of time off. I have generous time off, but nine

(29:29):
days a month, that's not even two full weeks. And
one must wonder if this has something to do with
the fact that Chief Fitzgerald is currently being investigated. Now,
in case you didn't know, Chief Fitzgerald is one of
the highest paid police chiefs in this state. He oversees

(29:51):
a massive department that is only getting bigger because they're
actually trying to hire more officers because no one wants
to ride RTD because bad things keep happening. And yet
he's in the office an average of nine days a month,
and by the way his first month. He was in
there eighteen days, so I'm sure that skewed the skewed
the average upwards. This just sounds terrible, absolutely terrible, And this.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Is the kind of stuff now.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
I understand that personal issues have to be handled, and
this is one of the reasons I didn't talk about
this before. When they announced that he was under investigation,
I had been put on leave. I was like, well,
I'm not gonna there's nothing to say. I have no
idea what he's being investigated for. And I understand that
personal issues are personal right and that they need to
be treated with the highest sort of level of concern

(30:41):
because perhaps an investigation is done and nothing is found out.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
But I find it weird in these situations.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
When the person being investigated has made no statements whatsoever, none,
Because if it were me, I would put out a
statement at least to the effect I am going to
be exonerated of these charges and I can't wait to
tell you more.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
About it then.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
But what's happening right now is ridiculous and it's not
accurate at all, you know, unless it was accurate, And
then I wouldn't do that because that would be lies
upon wise yep, yep. Traffic.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Looks like there's another accident on.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Northbound Parker Road right before the Arapaho exit. A motorcycle
and car were involved. Looks like it just happened. Police
and fire on site. If you travel that intersection, you
know it sucks anyway, So avoid that whole scene right
there anyway. So we'll find out what happens when we do.

(31:45):
When it does come out. If it does come out,
we'll let you know. But my thinking is on personal
incidents on investigations. If you work for the taxpayer, part
of the downside of working for the tax payer is
that sometimes your personal business is going to get exposed.
And I think that the taxpayers deserve to know why
the highest police chief in the state is currently not

(32:08):
working and why he's being investigated.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
I get it. Oh, somebody's just sent me a story
about that. I'll look at that because when we get back.
David Mgoya from the Denver Gazette joins me to talk
about his series on Aurora Water. It is fascinating. It's
like a soap opera. Wait till you hear it, We're
gonna do that next.

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there we go now joining me in the studio. I'm
thrilled to have back after a long hiatus. His fault,

(33:37):
not mine. No, I'm kidding David Miyoga from the David mcgoya.
I did that the other day to David on the air.
My secret secret power is destroying people's names.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's magical. Really, it's magical.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
David mcgoia from the Denver Gazette, longtime journalist here in Colorado,
and he is a really fascinating piece or a series
of pieces, i should say, about Aurora water. And we
were talking off the air here about the fact that
if you come from somewhere else, if you come from
east to the Mississippi, you have no concept of water

(34:13):
rights or how vicious the fighting over water rights can be.
And then you move to Colorado and you're like, can
I get a rain barrel? And they're like, no, okay,
you can't now, But when I moved here, you couldn't
and you have to find out about water rights.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
First of all, welcome back to the show, David. Thanks,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
So where did this come from? Where did this series
uncovering the tangled web of Aurora water in a gold
mine in Park County? Where did this come from?

Speaker 8 (34:37):
A lot of what we do in our business is
perusing the public record, trying to see what work you
tying to come up with an idea. Yeah, we do
that all the time, and just taking a look at
what was happening in Aurora. I saw her on one
of their council meeting agendas, a contract that was coming up.
And what made it interesting It was essentially talking about
an X ray machine at a gold mine, and just

(34:59):
as you dug into it a little bit, SA, what
in the world is this thing?

Speaker 4 (35:02):
So I got fascinated, started doing the digging.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
In and backstory and whatnot, and eventually, over many months,
many interviews with a lot of people, many documents, The
last count was about eighteen thousand pages of documents, we
came up with this tale that essentially walked everybody through
a deal that started in twenty eighteen with a lot
of fanfare, a lot of publicity, and stayed quiet ever

(35:26):
since and had changed quite a lot of different ways
and times. And decided to just tell that story. Where
are we today with this big water thing that they
announced with a gold mine back in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
So the gold mining question is in Park County and
it has been London Mine is the name of the mine,
and it's been defunct.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
For how many years now?

Speaker 8 (35:48):
I think it closed in ninety one. As I recollect it,
they closed a lack of mining. Yeah, it's been closed
a while.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
It is also one of the biggest sources of pollution
into that part of the Platte River.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
Correct it had been, It's not quite what it was,
but but yeah, many many years because the operation of
mining basically creates what's eventually called acid drainage. It's when
all the oxygen mixes in with these minerals and creates
a lot of cadmium, leads, ankle, all these different things
and hits the water stream.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
So it's it's pretty toxic stuff. It's not very nice
now in.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
An effort to shore up their water supplies. And this
is a common theme, and this is why I wanted
to bring you on to talk about this because this
is about Aurora. But this can happen with any municipality
looking to shore up their water supply. Sure, I mean
it could have any of them. So the story starts
when Aurora teams up with a water Wait, should we
start with water rights first?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Because this is very good convoy enough for that, I know,
and I don't want to have people like falling asleep
behind a wheel.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
But David also did a really good primmer kind of
article that explains the way water rights work in Colorado,
and that is a really important part of this story
because there's two kinds of water, absolute and conditional. Can
you give me like a sketch of those definitions.

Speaker 8 (37:02):
Well, it took me a long time to understand it.
Absolute water is pretty simple. This is water that absolutely
comes out and has a beneficial use.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Okay, that's the key phrase. Beneficial use for.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
A residents, businesses, something like that.

Speaker 8 (37:16):
All water in Coddlorado has to be put to a
beneficial use. If it isn't, then it has to go
back into the system and it maoks its way through.
Conditional water is a water right that exists but has
not yet been put to a beneficial use for a
period of time enough to go into court water Court
as a special court in Colorado to have it declared absolute.

(37:37):
Absolute doesn't mean it's always showing up, but it's an
absolute right.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
We don't lose that.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Absolute water rights are worth a fortune. Conditional water rights
not so much.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
That's right. Okay, So that's a big part of this story.
I needed to get that part out. And then the
other key thing is the tributary and non tributary water.
Tributary water, in.

Speaker 8 (37:56):
The most basic explanation, is the stuff that's on the surface,
rivers and whatnot. Now it can come out from underground
and make its way into the river, but as soon
as it hits that river, it's tributary.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
Non tributary water is essentially like an aquifer. It's a
big pool, a big puddle underground and doesn't find its
way into any of those tributary sources without help. That's right,
and that's non tributary okay. The without help part is
a pumping. There's an actual way to get into the ground,
pump the water and whatnot. This is a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
It is really unique with the London mind because this aquifer,
this really strange geologic anomaly that they created.

Speaker 8 (38:37):
Or that God created many many eons ago, captures all
this water inside London Mountain underneath it, and it doesn't
go anywhere. There's a geologic fault that stops it from
getting out and becoming tributary water. So the idea at
one point is that it actually went to the Arkansas
river system. And now, you know, the science has changed

(38:57):
enough that if they challenged it in court, they might
say eventually, well, you know what it actually is tributary,
here's where it comes out. So, because this aquifer is
like a giant pool under the mountain.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
And captures the water. The water Court said.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Long ago, this is now non tributary water, so anybody
who owns the land on top of it has the
right to pop a hole through and get to that water. However,
the courts also realize you start doing that and you're
going to deplete that water really quickly, so they made
sure that there was a requirement to get to that water.

(39:38):
You had to do it only through bonafide mining activity.
You actually had to be looking for gold, lead, silver, whatever,
and happen to hit that water and that water comes out,
and now you can work on this conditional non conditional
water and at.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
This is like a nightmare soon. This is government bureaucracy
at its best. It's actually a pretty.

Speaker 8 (39:59):
Brilliant decision from the courts because it really ensured that
that body of water underneath wouldn't be wasted quite so easily. Okay,
and in that process, now that's there was a number
a bunch of water. Water is measured not by gallons
when it comes to water rights, but by acre feet,

(40:20):
and that's essentially one acre of land one foot.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Deep of water.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
That works out to roughly three hundred and some odd
twenty six thousand gallons of water. At some point in time,
all the water courts and the people who own that
mine and pulled the water out got absolute water rights
roughly of about one thousand acre feet or so.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
And then there's another three hundred acre.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
Feet three seventy on top of that, a total of
fourteen eleven fifteen eleven that can come out of that mountain.
That three seventy is still conditional. Nobody's ever gone to
court and said, let's make it absolute.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
But the rest is absolute. But that's what's coming out now.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
If you go up there today, you look at the
water charts, Roughly it's about fourteen hundred and fifteen hundred
acre feet a year.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
Of water is coming out.

Speaker 8 (41:08):
But the body of that aquifer is another five thousand
or so ecre feet that if it ever comes out,
you can have a home roughly give water for a
year to about thirteen thousand, four hundred homes in Aurora.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
So why isn't it coming out, and why isn't that
water being used? And the water hadn't been developed yet.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
In order to get the water out, you have to
figure out a way to get to it by using
bona fide mining activity, and all the water rights limit
how much water until you do that activity to get
to it.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Once you develop it and.

Speaker 8 (41:40):
It starts coming out, there's a period of time that
they look at to see it coming out, and then
you can prove the water is being put to a
beneficial use, which now it would be Aurora Water owns
all the water rights under the London Mine. Anything that
comes out belongs to Aurora.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
So once it's.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Developed, there already putting it to a beneficial use to
the customers, right, and then they can get to get
it declared absolute.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Getting at it, however, is tricky, and that's where the
issue is.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
So they signed up with this water developer and he
was he going to engage in actual mind activities.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
The plan is they used to do that? Sure?

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Sure, oh wait the plan. You don't seem convinced like that.
There was a little breezy on your Sure, sure, that
was a little little cavalier for me. So what's actually happening, Well,
at the.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
Moment, nothing, nothing more much more than the fourteen or
fifteen hundred and eleven acre feet of water is coming
out of.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
There with any measure of regularity.

Speaker 8 (42:36):
No new water has been developed Okay, Aurora has prepaid
for another six hundred or so acre feet uh when
it gets developed, but that there's no timeline on that.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
That could take the long time. There's no date. I'm sorry,
there was no date in the contract, like you're going
to do. There's no water until now? Well, yes there is,
and there's not. There's no date that says we want
the water by now.

Speaker 8 (42:59):
It's says essentially, here's all this money we're prepaying you,
in this case four point two million dollars, and you
have until October of twenty twenty six to develop water.
If you get this much water, great, If you don't
give us the money back at four percent interest only,
which is simple interest, sir. So that's sort of they

(43:20):
don't want to call it a loan, but there is
a collateral, there is a promissory note, there's repayment terms,
and there's an interest rate.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
So by definition, that's a loon.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Quick question, what happens if this water developer goes belly up?

Speaker 8 (43:36):
Well, that's a great question because if the water developer
and the owner of the mine ends up going out
of business, Aurora would have the ability under contract to
take ownership of everything. The concern on Aurora's part is
they believe that there's a liability that crosses over to

(43:58):
them as the owner of the mine for any of
the issues that are in.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
The water, the pollution, the environmental damage.

Speaker 8 (44:05):
That doesn't really kick in unless they tried to develop
more than the fifteen hundred and eleven acre feet, So
there's no guarantee they'll own five thousand acre feet of rights.
But if you're not doing any work to get to it,
you're not liable for any of that contamination.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
That's what the EPA says.

Speaker 8 (44:22):
But if they decide that we're going after all that water,
then there's a liability issue.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
So essentially the guy can't go out of business.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
But at one point didn't he essentially wasn't he awarded
a no bid contract for something completely different when he
needed a cash infusion, Yes, to pay off a hard
money loan.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
Yes, there was a five point two million dollar deal.
He was he was in the middle of a hard
money lender collection that he used his water.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
How do you call it? The amount of water that
he was looking to profit on by sale as the
collateral for.

Speaker 8 (44:56):
That loan, and he got about a one point five
million dollars eighteen percent interest. It's ballooned up over the
time now to about five million, and he was in
a jam. They were collecting and he didn't pay him.
He was going belly up, and he made that clear
to several officials. When that came down, he went to
Aurora and essentially he said, I need help.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
And they figured out that there's all this giant rock.

Speaker 8 (45:19):
That's what was called riprap rock, which say that five
times fast, and that's the rock if you've driven by
any reservoir that aligns the sides of the reservoir, these
enormous boulders.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Yeah. Well, a number of years.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
Ago, when you're standing at the gold mine and looking across,
there's a mountain there called Pennsylvania Mountain. There was a
geologic change and half of that mountain, or a portion
of it came crashing down. It separated, and there was
a big landslide. That landslide created these enormous.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Pieces of riprap rock that can be used for that purpose.
So they went to Aurora, and Aurora says, WHOA, we
can't loan you any money.

Speaker 8 (45:53):
WHOA, we can't this. We need an arm's length. Tell
you what we'll buy all that rock, and they bought
about how many millions of pounds of that rock in
part to do maintenance. And I'm not sure where maintenance
comes from for large boulders, but okay, at their Spinny
reservoir which is up there in the mountains, and then
possibly to be used at the new one they're looking

(46:15):
to be building in a number of years called wild
Horse Reservoir. So that's the idea. We'll buy all your
rock that's in the way. Here, here's five million dollars.
Oh and by the way, we're not going to wait
for you to actually deliver it. We're going to prepay it.
Here's all the money. And by the way, council, he's
in a jam. Let's rush this through. Let's make it happen.
So they essentially helped the guy out, and he had

(46:35):
a really good quote. He said, I have rock, meaning
Aurora and.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
He I have rock. They need rock. They have money.
I need their money.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
So I mean it just it doesn't sound like anything
illegal has gone on. It just seems like this particular
developer has has figured out a way to complete, you know,
to keep dipping his toe into the Aurora taxpayer funds.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I'm not quite sure.

Speaker 8 (47:06):
If that was the way it gets set out at
the beginning, right, it certainly turned out that looks that way.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
I think it's more Aurora finds itself.

Speaker 8 (47:15):
And again, this is off the cuff here in a
position that it can't afford to have this developer go
bankrupt because then they're in a jam and everything really
says that they need to keep him in business in
order to continue to proceed trying to get this water.
Otherwise they'll have to get somebody else to take on

(47:36):
all that liability, and I'm not sure that that'll happen
easily this And.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
I'm trying to think of a way to say this
without casting aspersions. This seems like if you were knowledgeable
enough about the issues around liability when it comes to
ownership of the mine and all of these different things,
then you could conceivably set up a scheme where you
went into business with something with incredibly deep pockets and
no sense of the cost fallacy, right, And that would

(48:04):
be a municipality. I know that there's been other water developers,
and I'm putting that in air quotes for the I'm
moving over to a different water developer here who, by
land say we're going to develop it, get money from
the county, and then eventually get the environmentalists involved. They
show up to protest and they say, oh, we're not
going to do this project. We just take over the
land for twice what we paid for it. It's like

(48:26):
a little bit of a racket, you know, because water
is so important.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Water is so complicated.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
Yeah, and I think Aurora because it has a pretty
much an insatiable need for water.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah, and it's one of the.

Speaker 8 (48:39):
Largest municipalities to acquire water next to Denver in the
Front Range. Any water sail out there is a tough get.
They're all fighting for the same water, right. This was
a cache of water that was really different, and it's
a replenishable cash and it's a cache of water that
can be used over and over and over again until depletion.

(49:03):
It's a good get. I mean theoretically it's a good get.
But that whole thing about bonafide mining activity. Even if
you come in with a company, any company that is
a gold mining outfit, for instance, it's not an easy
do to start drilling holes. There's a whole process that's
very very expensive, very time consuming, and then you find

(49:27):
yourself against like you said, environmentalists and a number of
different people that are objecting to the process, and good
luck trying to beat that down in a short period.
So Aurora likes to see this as a long term solution.
But here we are already eight years later and no
new water has been developed, and all that conditional water

(49:48):
has never been made absolute.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
What about the toxic stuff in the water? What about
the pollution in the water? Are they addressing that they're
working on it?

Speaker 8 (49:55):
But as the city has acknowledged, there's a hard metal problem.
There's a lot, a lot of zinc, it's a lot
of cadmium that keeps coming up, and the state keeps
citing them for exceeding the standards.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
That are in place since twenty twenty two.

Speaker 8 (50:08):
They had, they had lesser standards previous, right, and then
there was a change to the law exactly.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
The Gold King mind thing that sometime thereafter.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
Yeah, No, it's funny because this same developer, gold mining
guy that owns all of this is the same guy
that came in and helped clean up the Gold.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
King of doing this. Oh yeah, absolutely, he's bona fide
when it comes to all of that. I mean very much.
I don't mean to suggest these not and other things. Well,
it doesn't seem like a good business man.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
It's very complicated, and like I said, the whole point
of this story is giving folks an update, but more
importantly to show how Aurora has gotten itself essentially into
a jam. It's very difficult to find its way out
from under this, and.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
There's no great answers here for Aura unless magically someone
comes in with a mining company and says, we're going
to drill for copper exactly in the location that the
aquifer is, and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 8 (51:01):
I mean, they would have the right to come in
and try to purchase the mine and the ore rights
from the guy who owns it.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Now, he may turn around and say fine, but I
imagine that.

Speaker 8 (51:10):
There's a right to refusal on Aurora's part, seeing as
that would impact whatever water they're pulling out now.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Plusn't close the fact too Seasonally, Colorado was very.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
Affected by the seasons and rainwater of course, so when
there's not as much snow or snow melt, they're not
pulling as much water.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Out of that thing as they expected.

Speaker 8 (51:33):
So they've had a couple of years where they've gotten
perhaps one hundred acre feet, but certainly not in the
volume that everybody's been expecting.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
David mcgoya did a great series. There's two long articles.
Even if you don't read the other articles about Aurora,
please read the piece on Denver water rights. It will
clarify the most convoluted, complex thing I have ever seen
for the most necessary thing for us to live.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Be sure you have a big pot of coffee when
you try. Amen to that, David, I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
I'll go watch Chinatown, David, just sid I haven't seen
Chinatown in years.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
It still stands up.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
It's it comes off a wee bit campy in a way.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
That it is a film noir. I remember it's Fade
Dunaway and Michael Douglas, No, No, Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 9 (52:17):
So good.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
I totally forget.

Speaker 8 (52:19):
I didn't even remember that movie until once the editors
had started seeing Oh yeah the copy as I was writing.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
It's, oh my gosh, it's just like Chinatown is, Oh
my god, God was water. It's all about water.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
So go watch that, David macgoya, thank you, man. I'll
talk to against Sam.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Always happy to be here. We will be right back,
and I'm kind of grossed out? Right now, I rode,
Did you.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Notice something that looked like a booger smeared on the
door of the studio?

Speaker 7 (52:44):
No?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Am I the only one that saw it, because I'm
the one that wiped it off, and I did not
put it there. Wow, I didn't touch it with my hand. Oh,
in general, what am I going to leave it up there?

Speaker 5 (52:55):
That's disgusting. No, no one ever dies to radio, and
the person who put it up there is not going
to get it. It's like the people who back up
the dog poop and.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Leave it on the sidewalk. No, that's different.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
That's different.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
They left it.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Maybe it was something else.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
I don't know. I didn't look at it too closely
after I wiped MS gross.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Gross radio people are gross.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Well, you know, I have an update on our homeless situation, Anthony.
Guess how much we have spent on homelessness since Mayor
Michael Johnston took office?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
A lot?

Speaker 4 (53:34):
One hundred and fifty five million dollars, Thank you. That's
a lot of money. Yep.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
And guess how guess how many we had last year
we had in the point of time survey, which is
one night they walk around. They try to count as
many unsheltered homeless people and sheltered homeless people as they can.
Last year, the total number of homeless people was five
eight hundred and eighteen.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
You got that here, Rod, you're on the you're on
the floor here. What do you think it was this year?

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Five thousand, eight hundred and eighteen. We have spent one
hundred and fifty five million dollars. What do you think
that number was this year?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
More?

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Yes, it is. I'm just going to say more.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
It is sixty five hundred and thirty nine this year.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
That's a lot more.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Now, the city saw only one hundred and fifty fewer
unsheltered homeless people when compared to last year's count, which
is a big problem because we have twelve hundred people
living in homeless hotels and shelters and other means of
little micro communities. And this is kind of a problem. Yeah,

(54:43):
very much a problem, And I want to share some
of the council member comments. Chris Hines from District ten
said this, I'm working with the administration to reconcile the
mayor's administration's success in getting sixteen hundred people off the
streets and into shelter since the mayor was inaugurated with
a reduction in the point in time count of two

(55:05):
hundred that according to the unsheltered population.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
He said, where did the other fourteen hundred people go?

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Or did we get twelve hundred more people living on
our streets that weren't in Denver a year ago? And
then the Denver because that says this, There are at
least two potential answers to that question. First, more people
became homeless and ended up in the city streets. Second,
the city, given the array of services and its housing
first approach, attracted homeless people from other parts of the

(55:35):
state or from elsewhere in the country and ended up
in the annual count. Now, of course the mayor's office
said it was the first one. Oh, these people are coming,
but we've talked about this from the get go. You
get more of what you incentivize. And when you tell
people that they can come to Denver and get a

(55:56):
free place to stay with no sobriety requirements or work
we're requirement, it's really any other requirements.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
They're just going to give you.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
A place to stay and you can continue to do
drugs and you know, whatever it is you do to
stay alive as long as you don't cause too many problems,
because then they'll kick you out. Why wouldn't you if
you're living in some other part of the state where
things are not so comfy and cozy, why wouldn't you
come to Denver? And then, don't even get me started

(56:22):
on the fact that Mayor Johnston's office then immediately pivoted
and said, this is why we need to raise our
own taxes to pay for affordable housing. Do we have
the mayor's schedule to come on anytime soon?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Ay?

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Ronny, I have literally been efforting it recently. Okay, yep,
so maybe maybe there's a chance I have been in
open communication.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
We're working on it. Okay, good, but it's been a
bit of a struggle.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Well.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
This spokesperson for the office of the Mayor said that
more people continue to fall into homelessness due to the
high cost of living in evictions and the housing costs
and the stagnation of wages are a major cause for
the spike in evictions. Now, I'm just going to say this,
Our rental prices have pretty much flattened out over the
last two years.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
They're still high.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
I'm not going to downplay that it is ridiculous that
a one bedroom apartment costs nineteen hundred dollars on average
in Denver. I think that's absurd. But that being said,
those numbers have not continued to rise. So maybe people
just I don't know, got caught up. Now they want
to raise taxes on Denver rights even more, give Denver
one of the highest sales tax rates in the state.

(57:31):
Mountain towns, resort towns always have super high tax sales
tax levels because they want tourists to pay the freight
Florida is the same way you go down to the
Orlando area. So much stuff is shoved into that sales
tax because they know that tourists are going to come down,
spend money, and they're going to get their cut. Right. Well,
now Denver's going to be the highest tax rate on

(57:52):
the Front range and equal with some of the mountain towns.
And they say they're going to use this for affordable housing.
And I have a question, and I'm going to ask
the mayor this. I I have a chance next time,
and that is has the mayor's office brought in a
group of people, group of developers who specialize in building
homes to ask them why they're not building more affordable housing,
and what government could do to support them in building

(58:15):
more additional affordable housing.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
Why don't we.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Start with that.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Why don't we start with making it easier and more
cost effective for builders to build affordable housing units. Let's
figure out what the problems are, the problems that government
created almost all of them, and let's undo some of
them that can be Undone, let's make sure a permitting
process is happening in a reasonable time. Every time I

(58:42):
mentioned permitting, I get text messages and emails from developers
who are like, Mandy, you have no idea. If I'm
trying to do something with a hard money loan, I
cannot wait for permitting. It's like a chicken and egg situation.
Are you going to try and get the money before
you have the permitting or are going to try and
get the permitting before you have the money? So it's

(59:02):
the permitting process is terrible. I'd love to know if
they just talk to the people and found out.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
What we could do.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
How could we incentivize you to build more affordable housing? Mandy,
are the homeless?

Speaker 4 (59:15):
What do you get when you feed bears more bears?

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Weird?

Speaker 5 (59:19):
You guys have been talking about this for a year.
They really should listen to you. Free stuff.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Let's go to Denver. Yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
If this saves only one person, it's worth it. Oh
and by the way, they did not count the migrants
who are living in migrant shelters as being homeless. That's
a neat trick because as far as I know, if
you are a migrant living in a shelter, you do
not have a home by definition. But they did not

(59:46):
count those people, which is ridiculous. Ridiculous, Mandy. I also
saw an article that there were nine thousand evictions in
Colorado this year, So we evict people from homes to
put them in public funded housing. Yeah, Mandy, it was
that non leg washing Ross who swiped the boogie on
the door.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Ross would not do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Ross.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
He would And Ross may be a non leg washing savage,
but he would not wipe a booger on the door.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
His hygiene is always in question. It would not shock me.
He's just because the leg saying, Oh, it's not just
the legs thing.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
What else to I don't have enough time left in
this segment. No, No, his hygiene is atrocious.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Well, I'm gonna talk to his wife. That's where you
go for situations like that, her soul.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Yeah, Kylie Ross where you just wiped a ross boogy, Well,
I didn't with my hand. I wiped it with the
paper towel. You wiped it. Your hand was on the towel,
you wiped it. I washed my hands after, like scrub them.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Good well with the lavender soap we have in the
lady's room.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
That's a delightful.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
You cannot be burdened by what has been this, Texter said,
of course, we can't. What am I thinks at a
time when we get back, I've got a little more
of this story because I want to share some of
the stuff that is in the Denver Gazette article from
council member Stacy Gilmore. Let's just say this, she was
not happy with the money that's been spent and the
way things are turning out when it comes to homelessness.

(01:01:10):
He's not a heathen telling you right now he is
a heathen.

Speaker 10 (01:01:15):
He's not.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
He's a nice man from a nice family and nice kids.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Animal. He's not gross.

Speaker 10 (01:01:21):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
The most men are gross. So it's fine.

Speaker 10 (01:01:24):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
I don't agree with that, and that is my own
personal experience maybe as well. Maybe I just have had
a good success. Even the guys that I ended up
not liking but I dated briefly, they were all civilized.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
Huh yeah yeah, not washing your hands after number one,
tell you civilized, because I've lost track of how long
my mental list is. The guys I don't shake hands
with at work. Sure, looking at you guys, Yeah, men,
you filthy, filthy guys.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
You Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
Let your listeners know not to travel west on I
seventy past I twenty five. We've been letting him know
throughout the news, but I will just remind them I
seventy is closed for a death investigation. You know, I
heard that story earlier today and I went down this
kind of melancholy rabbit hole. I'm gonna get Stacy Gilmour
in one second here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Think about this. Three people died in that auto accent today.
Three people got.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Up, got ready for work or school or whatever, got dressed,
got in the car like it was every other day,
and boom, accident happens, and you're dead. Do not take
any moment for granted on this big blue marble.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Any of them thought along those lines. I'm like thinking
as I'm driving. Uh, the check engine light's going on again.
I got some problems. I mean, just like seriously, it's
like it's it's unfortunate that takes those circumstances. Like just
put some perspective about don't complain, deal with some things,
manage yourself, be happy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
And like you said, take an instant at any point
in time.

Speaker 11 (01:02:49):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
I do want to share because the Mayor's office is
getting some pushback after the time in point in time
survey of homelessness in Denver show that we've actually increased
homelessness in Denver after spending one hundred and fifty five
million dollars, and Councilwoman Stacy Gilmore made some very interesting comments.

(01:03:10):
She said to you she was speaking specifically about the
Mayor's office then using these numbers to lobby for the
tax increase that will go to fund affordable housing in Denver.
She says, to use these figures to further campaign for
an incomplete, potential tax increase ballot initiative that lacks thorough
public input from constituents. Tells you everything you need to

(01:03:33):
know about the spend first, ask questions later mindset of
this administration. I would encourage the public to be skeptical
of anyone rushing to celebrate the fact that one two
hundred and seventy three people experiencing unsheltered homelessness and a
continued increase in homelessness as a success. While Gilmore things,

(01:03:54):
any money spent on helping people experiencing homelessness is worth
the investment, she said. People need to rem remember the
context of Johnston's spending. She says, and this is a quote,
it was a blank check ask made in a rush
months after the mayor was elected, with minimal public input
and a myopic understanding of how those rushed efforts would

(01:04:14):
affect the different parts of Denver in the long term. Yes,
there's been a decrease in the rate of unsheltered homelessness.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
We should celebrate that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
So it doesn't sound like the city Council is as
enamored as they once were.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
But that's what happens when.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
You give check after check after check and you don't
get the results that you were hoping for.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
You know, this is a very difficult problem.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
I want to just concede to that point right there.
I don't want to sit here and say I'm watching
aur Aurora's moving forward with their.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Homeless navigation campus.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Someone speculated on the text line, after Aurora enacted their
homeless policies, many just went to Denver. And why wouldn't
you if you don't really want help, if you don't
re really want to get better, why would you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Stay at Aurora where you're.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
Going to be hassled and the camping van is going
to be enforced when you could go to Denver and
just live your life unfettered, maybe get a free place
to say. I mean, I'm no dummy, but that is
pretty appealing right there, So we'll see what happens. I mean,
Denver has spent gobs and gobs and gobs of money

(01:05:25):
on homelessness and illegal immigrants, gobs and gobs. So it's
interesting that right now is really the time that people
are starting.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
To push back against that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
And then I think it's a good idea, Mandy, would
be nice to see.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Where all the dollars went.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Well, yeah, city council has been trying to get an accounting,
and it's been challenging, to say the very least. I
don't know if they've been given a full accounting yet.
But when we get back, we are getting ready to
head to the D and C next week. I'm going,
A Rod's going and Rob Dawson is going Three Musketeers
back at a convention, and we're gonna talk to Rob

(01:06:03):
get a little preview of what he's working on, because
whereas uh A, Rod and I were focused on this program,
Rob was a news gathering fool at the RNC. And
we're going to talk about what we're all expecting. And
somebody asked earlier, Hey, do you want restaurant recommendations around
the United Center? Yes, because we're staying pretty close to
the United Center. We're like a seven minute walk from

(01:06:23):
the United Center. But I understand the area is not
very well developed, so we're gonna have to wait and see.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
A Rod.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
The VRBO that we're in has like fifty beds. Fifty,
I mean every room has like two queens size beds
in it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Can we rent some mountain make thought about it? I
thought about it. That's a good idea. You'll have to
stand rooms with you guys. I'm all staying in a
room with those. Well, no, you're VRBO take care of them?

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
Well then I'm no, No, We'll we will VRBO bed
and Breakfast style.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
This thing and make some cold hard cat Do you
bring the breakfast burritos? You handle the breakfast part done,
We'll get that taken care of. We're gonna talk to
Rob docs Rob Dawson next.

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Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
The third hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
And guest who has popped into the studio with me
it is Rob Dawson.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Rob will be jetting off with.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
Us on Sunday, not with us separate similarly on Sunday
as we'll all be covering the d n C next week. Now, Rob,
I think I asked you this before, but you had
never been to a convention, right until we went to
the r n C.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Not before the RNC.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Now, okay, before the RNC, when I don't know what's
going to happen, my anxiety just rises, right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
So, before we went to the RNC.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
I was nervous, not because I thought anything was going
to be I just didn't know what to expect.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Right now that we've been I'm like oh I got this.

Speaker 12 (01:08:10):
Yeah, you do this because you know, when you go
to a mega event like this, first of all, we're
all going to be you know, working long or you know,
we're all together for many hours every day. You develop
a rhythm, right, I like the rhythm we developed by Tuesday.
We're here in Radio Row and then we had dinner,
and then we went to the arena and then we
did something fun and it was all kind of like

(01:08:32):
you crave for when you developed that rhythm.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Yes, so I'm looking forward. What are you looking forward
to in the DNC.

Speaker 12 (01:08:39):
I'm curious about the crowd reaction for Kamala Harris when
she takes the stage.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
The other thing, I think it's going to be a madhouse.
I think it's going to be just like it was
for Trump. I really, I mean you've got to think
this is the most hardcore of the party, faithful. Yeah,
just like the RNC was. So I think it is
going to be like it's going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Like a you know, a ten pole revival in there.

Speaker 12 (01:09:02):
Now, you've watched many a convention. I have not so many,
but you know you you love this stuff. If you
follow this.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
Stuff, when you I will say the r and C
was probably the best produced convention I remember. Okay, so
that doesn't mean there wasn't a better but it was entertaining,
and it moved fast, and there was real people mixed
in with politicians, and you know you were there. You
know those real people interviews, they they hit harder than
the politician interviews.

Speaker 12 (01:09:28):
I have a question about the crescendo of speakers, right,
you're supposed to ramp up, right, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Yeah, okay, So why why Bill Clinton Wednesday?

Speaker 7 (01:09:40):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Is he just such a like does down?

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
I would have put Bill Clinton on Tuesday, to be perfectly,
if I was going to do the order, this is
what I would have done. I would leave Joe Biden
on Monday, because you don't want these people thinking about
Joe Biden ever again, right, not one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
I mean, are you surprised that he's there? I think
it's big slap in the face.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
But politically, they've got to get him on the stage
and off the stage because we have to scrape off
the stink that is the Joe Biden administration that was
wildly unpopular when he was the candidate. Right, So they're
going to separate him from Kamala Harris as much as
you can because of that, and then I would leave
Hillary on Monday with him where she's going to be,
and then I would have put Bill Clinton on Tuesday,

(01:10:22):
and then I would have put Barack Obama on Wednesday.

Speaker 12 (01:10:24):
Does that say something that Obama like, did it take
a walk because it took a while for him new indoors?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Is that wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
I don't know the thinking behind that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
I do find it interesting that the Democratic Party is
elevating Bill Clinton's voice right because he's a gross sexual predator.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
He is an absolute horn dog.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
And has I don't know if he is now he's
old now, but when he was young, I mean, he
was everything that hashtag me too was allegedly against.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
And now they're featuring him on Wednesday.

Speaker 12 (01:10:54):
H Is there a strategy about thinking, oh, well he's
the censurist. Well, I goh, he's good at bringing people together,
so what's happen about?

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Obama has much more of that feel. I just think
I don't understand Bill Clinton on Wednesday. I don't get it.
I would have flipped those two and I'm not sure
why Barack Obama is. Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I just thought of something because I have to put
my political machinery hat on. Bill Clinton is not nearly

(01:11:24):
as popular now as Barack Obama is. So if you
are going to introduce a candidate who is not exactly
known for her likability, you don't want to put the
most beloved Democrat in recent memory right before her. Do
you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Like you may want to have separation.

Speaker 12 (01:11:41):
There is there anything about Clinton introducing Tim Walls or
there would be someone else introducing Tim Walls, like maybe
a regular person from Minnesota or someone from.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
The nation one.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
No, I don't know, and you know they're not giving
us that information usually until the day of We'll see
if they're better at that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
D NC.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
The RNC was terrible. The RNC was giving us list
at twelve thirty in the afternoon, just.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Like what Mandy real Quick I saw on the map.

Speaker 12 (01:12:03):
We're near CNN, right, and I informed you that David
Axelrod is one of my people that I think I
can imitate very well.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
Oh nice.

Speaker 12 (01:12:14):
You know, Democrats really want to love their candidate, and
the love is just pouring out for Kamala Harris right now.
And this is why Donald Trump is fundamentally unpopular outside
of his base.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
That is excellent books on the show today.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
You know what, I bet we can get David Axelrod
to talk to us next week.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
David, do you have a sense of humor about it
or would he? I would hope, so, I would hope.
So yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
I mean if you're saying not if you say I'm
David Axelrod and I eat babies for breakfast, that would
be offensive. But that's a very good impression, extremely good impression.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Wow wow, wow. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask
Rob the question I asked you earlier.

Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
So going into the r n C, the message was unity, okay,
asked the assassination attempt. If you had to put one
or two words on what you think the messaging or
theme is going to be for the Democrats of DNC,
what do you think it would be?

Speaker 12 (01:13:19):
I almost does it have to be in any to
to put in both any sore feelings about getting ready
of Biden.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
There's rumors that Biden is super salty, like still really mad,
and there's rumors that in his speech at the d
n C he's gonna snub Obama and Kamala Harris.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Which I just so he he's not going to get
up and fake.

Speaker 12 (01:13:41):
Oh everyone, let's just.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Grab I am more, I am more.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Well, Nikki Hayley, let's just say she's She was not
super convincing at the r n C of her love
before the candidate. I did not feel the love coming
from her speech. But that being said, I I don't see,
I don't know. I think that there's a lot of
people in the background talking to Joe Biden about what
kind of legacy he wants to have and does he
want to go to the DNC and burn it down

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even though his legacy shot.

Speaker 12 (01:14:08):
We all know that there's did you find the convention
for the Republicans uplifting or frightening in terms of, oh,
my goodness if we don't win the demo?

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
I tell people this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I've told so many people this since we got back.

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
It was a far more joyful experience than I than
I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
I thought it was going to be like that, like
angry politics. We've got to save the country, we've got
to get the original.

Speaker 12 (01:14:35):
The question is, can can the Democrats do angry politics
or do they have to be joyous too?

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
I think that because Kamala Harris right now is essentially
in my mind, running for student body president. Okay, all
we know about Kamala Harris is she's got she's got
posters in the hallway, and she is reading off of
scripts all over the country. So there's no upside into
going negative.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Stainbody presidents could probably talk to reporters. So I'm just saying,
you know, but.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
As long as she's going to run that kind of campaign,
I think they go. And if I was doing this
and I didn't want my candidate to be asked any
hard questions, which they don't, I would lean into the
whole vibe thing. Have you seen this. I'm going to
play this audio when we get back from this break here.
Someone went to a Kamala Harris rally and asked what
the rally attendees thought her biggest accomplishments as vice president were.

(01:15:25):
The answers are everything you think they'll be. But one
guy was just there for the vibe, and I think
that's what they lean into. I think they allow the
attack dogs for the first few days, but I think
she and Tim Walls they're going.

Speaker 12 (01:15:39):
To be above it all because the vibe was a
non existent correct.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
There was no vibe. It would have been a funeral
next week.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
If Joe Biden was still share the candidate, it it
would be a much different situation here, much different. I'm
looking forward to its coming. All right, thanks Rob Dawson.
We'll be right back and I'll play that audio. People
who went to a Kamala Harris rat were asked what
they liked about her accomplishments, and just wait, beef sandwich
while you're there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Is that one of the things they're known for. I
know you dish.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
Oh they're beef sandwich. Okay, so very finely sliced like
prime rib beef. You lost me what, Well, it doesn't
taste like prime rib. It just tastes like meat.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
So they get this big delicious hogy roll.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
That are just magical, little crunchy on the outside noice
and soft on the inside. They put on all the
all the beef and then they dip it into ausuo
for you and they put jardina.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
Like the meat liquid. It's like the meat liquid that
that you appealing sounding meat liquid.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
It's delicious. It's like a very thin gravy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
Think of it like that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
It's a very thin beef grade.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
You just talk with Rob Dawson about things we learn
and things how we can apply to the DNC. You
think we're gonna be able to escape anywhere to get
to the delicacies of Chicago dining because good luck. Based
on RNs the experience, it was great, but we never
got to really do a lot kind of stuff that
of the food trucks offered basically are.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Yeah, it will.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
There's a big difference between Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Chicago, Illinois,
just in terms of what's available.

Speaker 11 (01:17:06):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
Yeah, So I've already scoped out there are a couple
of restaurants really close to our where we're staying, which
is nice because we didn't have that last time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Okay, so we'll just have to say that. What so,
here's what we need.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
We need a Chicago dog, which I get without tomatoes,
which generally garners me a scowl from the people behind
the hot dog stand. But I don't care like tomatoes
and don't waste them. We need to get a Chicago
beef beef sandwich, and then we.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Need to get pizza found by accident karaoke bar, got it?

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
Are you working on that already? Are you on the
karriaoke accidentime? What are the chances now?

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
We got where to God.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
In Milwaukee, Wisconsin because a Rod chooses a restaurant blindly
online and says, look, the food looks fine, let's go there.
We go and they have karaoke in the same place.
You think that magic is going to strike twice?

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
Absolutely, come on, I might actually intently look just a
little got behind your vision now because that first time
was on accident.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Who you meant to be? It'll happen again.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
Let me play this audio from outside, well, kids that
I would like, Let me play this audio from outside
the Harris rally just the other day when they were
just asking some of Kamala Harris's accomplishments.

Speaker 13 (01:18:18):
Today, we're trying to find out from the attendees what
Kamala Harris's greatest accomplishment has been at VP.

Speaker 11 (01:18:28):
I mean, honestly, I'm not too into politics. I'm just
here for the vibe something.

Speaker 13 (01:18:33):
The first female vice president, So becoming just becoming the
VP is the best accomplishment.

Speaker 9 (01:18:39):
Absolutely being a good person.

Speaker 7 (01:18:42):
Yeah, I mean she's she's I don't know, he's really
good for women.

Speaker 9 (01:18:49):
Harris is there with the energy, she has a lot
of enthusiasm, so it's important to get behind her.

Speaker 13 (01:18:56):
What is Kamala's like top accomplishment.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
You think.

Speaker 13 (01:19:03):
I can say right now, her top her top like
contributions to policy or policy. As VP, I wasn't in
on the policy making decisions with President Biden, so I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Know her favorite policies.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
See, I wish they would tell us more about that,
because I honestly don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
Oh, I know she's done some good work.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
With immigration, even though they say opposite.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
What do they say, Well, well, what is it?

Speaker 10 (01:19:35):
She's she's the border start the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
Vacant that all these immigrants are coming over, you know,
across the border right now, which I don't think they are.
She doesn't think there's immigrants coming across the border. I'll
let her continue.

Speaker 13 (01:19:51):
We've been saying that Kamala's the borders are whatever that means, Uh,
is there an issue at the border as Kamala had
done anything about it or was her anything to do
about it?

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
And so they're just kind of making things up. So
I don't think there's an issue with the border at all.

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
Yeah, I feel I guess illegal immigrants are coming to America,
but that's what America is all about, is to come
to America and live that American dream, because America isn't
just for the whites, it's not just for the blacks,
it's not just for the Mexicans. Now, it's for everyone
around the world. We're supposed to be a country of
letting people come in and do what they'd like. I mean,

(01:20:28):
I understand that with they say the border crisis is
causing all these drug issues and it's causing crime. But
in my opinion, there's crime everywhere. You can go to
New York, you can go to Canada, you can go
anywhere across the world, and there's gonna be crime regardless.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Yeah, it's it's a total.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
It's a total.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
They're building it. We had a proportion, huh, No, for sure.
Would you say there's a problem at the border at all?

Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
So there is a problem about the border. I really
would wish for her to go visit the border while
she's here. I don't know what's on her schedule and whatnot,
but I mean, there's work to do, and I can't
I can't dismiss that. You know, there's problems, you know,
to fix. But my personal wish would be for her
to visit the border with the governor so they could

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see what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
That would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, Mandy, the
smell of Chicago down Main Street on our motorcycles is
darn close to New Orleans or as he said, Nolin's.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Harry Carey's restaurant.

Speaker 5 (01:21:25):
I was in Chicago a couple of months ago and
this was one of the places to go. But isn't
it the place to go because of locals or tourists.
We like to roll with the locals, and trust me,
when a Rod was singing karaoke, we were fully with
the locals that night, fully about our time in Chicago.
This is one I want to give to you. A
Rod find Chicago tavern style pizza. That's actually the very

(01:21:47):
thin crust Chicago pizza, which I also love.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
I love thin crust the most.

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
Oh, then you're gonna love Chicago style pizza, the thin
crust cart it is my That is my favorite kind
of pizza. Chuck and I are are opposite sides of
the Chicago pizza spectrum.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
He loves the deep dish. I love the thin crust
too much. Going on Casting Cross, not too much.

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
They also said, don't ask for ketchup on fries or
hot dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
He'll get yelled at. So there you go. There's something
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:22:16):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
Anyway, let me talk to someone I talk to every year,
because this event is one of my favorite things about
living in the Denver metro It is the Affordable Arts Festival.
And joining me now the man who is the driving
force behind it, Jim Delutus. Jim, this morning I perused
Affordable Arts Festival dot com and I have no room

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on my walls in my house for anything, but I
am coming to the festival again because there's some artists
that I have my eye on and if I can
get their work for one hundred and fifty bucks, I'm
doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
So, yeah, that's the thing that's happening. How are you, Jim.

Speaker 10 (01:22:54):
I'm good. I'm glad to be talking with you again.
And I just have one suggestion for your home. You
can actually rotate the art so you have new work
up on the walls all the time, so that that
problem solved solved for you.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
Well, it's remarkable how much of my artwork comes from
the Affordable Art Show. What is the Affordable Arts Festival
For people who are new to the show or new
to the arts festival, what can people expect?

Speaker 10 (01:23:19):
Well, let me just touch on one thing first, because
I did have an announcement to make. Just as of yesterday,
the new standings came out for the rankings of the
art shows in the country, and the Affordable Arts Festival
is number one.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
Oh well, Jim, that is amazing.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
That is absolutely incredible, And I would like to say,
you know, it's based on the charisma of the director
all those things, but it's more of a calculator thing because.

Speaker 10 (01:23:51):
It's the average sale for the artists, and our show
has the highest average sales.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Per artists and that's amazing because the highest highest price
at the Affordable Arts Festival is one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 10 (01:24:05):
Bucks, right and we're only out there for six hours,
not three days like most events. So anyway, we're really
happy with that, and you play a big part in
that because you've always been a great promoter for the show,
and the more people we have there, the better the
sales are. And of course our ranking shows that last
year we were number three, so basically for you, you'll
appreciate this. You know, we were bronze last year.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
Now we're gold, absolutely well deserved because this festival is
unlike others in that it has a high. I mean
it has a fixed high dollar price point, meaning the
highest that you're going to pay is one hundred and
fifty bucks. But the artists that come to this show
often sell work for thousands of dollars. I want to
be clear about this. This isn't like a bunch of

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grandma's you were getting out there to sell their watercolors
for one hundred and fifty bucks. These are artists that
are working artists. This is how they make their living.
And they gather up work that either I guess hasn't
sold or work they're willing to let go for a
lower price point, and they bring it to the Affordable
Arts Festival, and there's just opportunity after opportunity after opportunity
for art lovers.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
What kind of art you'll go ahead, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:25:11):
We have one hundred and sixty artists coming in from
twenty two states, so we have a tremendous amount of inventory,
and you know, and the best deal this year is
a fifty one hundred dollars original oil painting that's going
for one hundred and fifty And one of the reasons,
one of the other reasons that the artists are willing
to do this, but this. This is a fundraiser. This

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happens at Apple Hill Community College in Littleton, and we
have twelve dollars admission and proceeds from that go to
the school for helping scholarships. And over the years we've
we've raised them two hundred and ninety thousand dollars. And
so the artists know that they're the sum in the water.
That's why we that's why people come. That's why we

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have these crowds that are waiting for the gates to
open at nine o'clock and they come running in and
grabbing everything and so but that's it. So they know
that they're helping a good cause and and they're still
able to make money. A lot of times, you know,
people call artists all the time say, you know, this
is PBS. Please give us some art and we'll sell
it and make money and you will get anything for it.

(01:26:14):
But you know this, this is a chance for them
to kind of also help with the scholarships and at
the same time they can they can make money off
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Describe the different kinds of art that are in the show.

Speaker 10 (01:26:27):
Jim, Yeah, well everything you see at all the arts festivals,
you know, we have we have sculpture, We've got glasses,
we have jewelry, uh, you know, painting.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Wood.

Speaker 10 (01:26:39):
Every category is there, and there's and there's plenty of it.
I mean some some artists I know have two hundred
and three hundred pieces. That's just one artist that we
have one hundred and sixty artists that are bringing work.
So and it moves I mean, you know, we go
through a lot of it, and and and and the

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art and the people who have followed us. This is
our thirteenth year, and we have people that get in
line early because they know their favorite artists, and we
have a lot of those favorite artists always back. And
every year we have a lot of new artists too,
So even if you've been to the show before, there's
people that are in this year. I mean, you know,
we had we had we had to turn away two

(01:27:20):
hundred artists this year. We had three hundred cow cap
applications and we only have one hundred and sixty spots.
And so and now with the ranking of one, you know,
number one, we will have more more applications, which is
great for us because that really lets us pick the
best of the best. And we're not we're not settling
for anyone, because we have plenty of artists to pick from,

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and the art.

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
Is so incredibly varied that I can say with certainty
that no matter what your style is, if you're looking
for artworks, you're going to find something that scratches your itch.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
And what I'd love for you to do in the audience.

Speaker 5 (01:27:56):
If you haven't bought your ticket yet, I put a
link on the blog to buy your.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Ticket and do what I did this morning.

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
I literally went through and looked at every artist that
you have, and there's one artist that I love. And
I'm not mentioning this artist on the air because I
am honing in on that artist's booth as soon as
I walk in. And that is what I recommend you do.
And the great thing is is that everybody else who
does that, you are also going to be all walking

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to different.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
Booths when you get in. Now, let's talk about the actual.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
Day of JIM because I get lots of questions about this.
What time do people start lining up to come in
and what time do gates open?

Speaker 10 (01:28:34):
People start lining up? The hardcore ones are about five am,
but I'd say, you know, you're probably pretty good shape
if you get in line before seven. The gates open
at nine and it runs from nine to three. And
this is on the Sunday, August twenty fifth, and so yeah,
and you can while you're waiting in line. I always

(01:28:56):
there's a buddy system. You leave your leave your friend
in line, your spots. Yeah, it stake turns walking around
the fencing and peeking in and kind of going, oh,
I got to get to that boost and yeah, so
you can kind of said aga into something to do
for a couple of hours that you're standing there. But
and we'll also have some you know, gourmet coffee there.
We'll have some nice pastries for people, so you have

(01:29:17):
to buy them, but you know those will be available
while you're waiting in line and some music playing, so
it's not you know, you know, it's standing.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
It is a fun.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
It's a fun.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
Wait, let me just say that, because everybody's there for
the same thing, and you end up talking to people
in line with you about what artists they're looking at
and what artist you're looking at, and what.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
Are you going to do with the art that you're buying.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
It's just it's a fun experience to go to this festival.
If you want more information, if you want to buy
your twelve, your lousy twelve dollars ticket. You can do
so at Affordable Arts Festival dot com. I put a
link on my blog today directly over to the website
and you can scroll and look at the artists and
the different kinds of art that are going to be there,

(01:29:58):
and you can decide what you want to do. But
this there's some artists in this bunch, and you know,
I am specific about the artists that I stalk, Jim,
so you know this about me. There's some artists in
this bunch that are doing some really I just think
brilliant work. And so there's going to be some major
bargains to be had at this show, and I hope
it is another smashing success.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Thanks.

Speaker 10 (01:30:21):
And there's also a page on the website of best deals,
and there's about seventy samples of some of the best
fields from individual artists, so you can kind of see,
you know's what's going to be there.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
Excellent, you have everything, It is all there. I didn't
look at best deals earlier. Now I have to see
if what I'm looking at is on the best deals page.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Hang on, look, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
Scanning right now, Jim. While I'm talking to you to
see if I see it. Okay, I don't see it,
but that's okay.

Speaker 7 (01:30:48):
Oping is on there.

Speaker 10 (01:30:49):
Yeah, everything's on there as far as you know, parking,
et cetera. And you want to listen. There's also a
thing that happens at the eleven o'clock So two you
two hours after the gate open, a lot of the
artists will have deals that they have not brought out yet,
what and so the people, so people coming a little later,
you know'll have a chance of getting some deals, some

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of the best deals. And so at eleven o'clock we
do an air horn when we open the gate nine
o'clock and the gates open then before running at eleven o'clock,
you'll hear the airhorn again. That will let you know
that kind of like that, and you know, to get
to your favorite artist's booths and they will have a

(01:31:30):
little sign on this on their name, on their sign
for their booths, there'll be a sticker on there saying
I've got eleven o'clock deals. So while you're shopping between
nine and eleven, you kind of look at that and going, oh,
I got to get back to this booth at eleven
and see what they have.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
Okay, just to let you know, one of the things
I'm watching is in the Best Art Deals.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Dang it, Affordable Arts Festival dot Com.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
Jim Belutas, You're gonna see me there, bright and shiny.

Speaker 4 (01:31:55):
Okay, I'll be there, all right, my friend.

Speaker 10 (01:31:57):
I'll talk to you soon, all right, thankfully, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
Do you need artwork a.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
Rod because this place, I'm telling you, if you need
art for your house, this is where you go.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Ryan Edwards, do you need art for your house? You
need to go to the Affordable Arts Festival. Yeah, sounds
pretty cool. It is very cool. It is very very cool.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
And I have gotten so much art at this art
show that is in my house right now, and I
love it all because I feel like I got it
for a great price too, you know what I mean.
It's not just oh I love that painting. Oh oh,
I got a smoking good deal on it. At the
same time, as a matter of fact, one of the
artists that I bought from a few years ago has
become a friend of mine and he basically said, hey,

(01:32:37):
if you ever want to sell that painting that you
bought from me for one hundred bucks, like it's a
it's a twelve or fifteen hundred dollars painting.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Now to day.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
Yeah, that's amazing, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
So I'm telling you go and find something that makes
your heart, saying, what's coming up on Kawa Sports today?

Speaker 14 (01:32:50):
What do you got Ryan, Well, we're going to react
to the things we learned out here at practice as usual.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
Bes you got two days left to train camp and
we'll get into that. Justine Simmons found a.

Speaker 7 (01:33:00):
Home that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
I'm sad. He's such a nice man.

Speaker 14 (01:33:06):
Yeah, I mean, the tough thing is, yes, he is
a nice man. He's really good in the community. He
obviously cares a lot. I mean he's, you know, a
former third round pick for the team and he turned
himself into a really successful player.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
I mean, he was kind of waiting for the right situation.

Speaker 14 (01:33:20):
I don't know if if Atlanta was his top choice,
but you know, in the end, he's in a place
that is a team that has expectations and aspirations for
the playoffs, and he's never played in the playoffs the
entire time with the Broncos. He had the first year
he was here where they had a winning record and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
That was it.

Speaker 14 (01:33:38):
So I'm hoping if nothing else in the Broncos will
actually see the Falcons in week eleven, so we'll actually
get to welcome Justin back here. But yeah, I'm hopeful
for him that he gets a chance to play in
the playoffs, at least for him, me too.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
And it's a business, and you know, if you're going
to get the crap beating out on you in the field,
you may as well get paid. Well, yeah, at some point,
so let me answer a couple of text questions about
the art Afford of Arts Bestial Well, it is Sunday,
August twenty fifth, and somebody just said, what if I
can't get there early. I'm gonna be honest. Other than
the eleven o'clock deals, like, so much stuff is.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Gone if you don't get there early.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
So if you're planning on coming in the afternoon, there
is no afternoon, they'll they'll be you know, maybe there's
stuff left though that you could bargain on.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
I don't know, maybe, Ryan, quick.

Speaker 5 (01:34:22):
Question, Pumpkin spice is hit the shelves.

Speaker 8 (01:34:25):
I see it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Pumpkin spice cheerios out no cheerio. Oh yeah, they're actually
kind of good. They're just cinnamon, you know, spices on
cheerios there's nothing wrong with that, agreed. Cheerios are pretty
dang good. Just PSLC got it by themselves. Have you
had your first pumpkin spice latte? When does that come
to stores?

Speaker 7 (01:34:44):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
I've gotten mixed dates on that. I thought it was
gonna be in the like August twenty second or something
like that. Somebody'd send me something that was coming out
this week. I don't think that's the case. So I'm
gonna I'm gonna try to research here what we know.

Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
I've got it for you. I've got it for you
right here. When are are going to see the return?

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
We don't know. The Fall menu in previous.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
Years has launched August twenty fourth, August thirtieth, August twenty fourth,
August twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
Fifth, in two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
Right now, the Fall menu is expected to drop on Thursday,
August twenty second.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Barbs one more week. What a week? Ryan, And that's
what I had heard originally was August twenty second. So
I'm listening. I'll be there right and early on that day.

Speaker 14 (01:35:27):
And yeah, I mean it's it's a tradition in my household,
is a tradition to enjoy the sweet nectar that is
pumpkin spice latte one August actor.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
In this year to be August twenty second. Can't wait.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
Yeah, I don't drink that stuff. By the way, I'm
just a coffee purist.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
I do. My coffee is coffee too, not only coffee too.
But I mean it's just one of those deals, like
we can like multiple things.

Speaker 14 (01:35:48):
Like I go back and forth at Alan Dave and
they're both, you know, especially Dave is a coffee puerist
as well, and I'm like, hey, that is totally fine.
I like the taste of coffee by itself as well, but.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
I think it's fair to like multiple things. I have
a very distinguished palate in that respect.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
I'm much more likely to try the iced pecan crunch
latte oat milk. I bet the thing is like ninety
grams of sugar in it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
That's my problem with coffee drinks is I look up
the nutrition and then it's ruined.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Yeah, you just gotta ignore that those numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
And yeah, talk to me when you're fifty five about
ignoring those numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
Ryan, let me know how that works out for I
had chocoal Vine. What is that? Just discovered it?

Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
It's a chocolate red wine, but one glass is like
thirty garbs. Oh god, see, I would rather have.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
A nice piece of dark chocolate and a nice glass
of red wine. I have had that before, Yes, I
have had that before. But I'd rather just have a
small piece of dark chocolate and a good glass of
red wine. Although wine hates me now, so that's probably
never gonna be does Oh yes? If I want to sleep,
If I don't want to sleep, and now it's multiple days, what.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
Are you gonna do tomorrow? Do we have the wine
yogain here?

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
We do have the wineyo game here tomorrow and tomorrow
I won't sleep. It'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
I can sleep what I'm doing. It's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:37:01):
That's when I tell myself all the time, you can sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
When you're dead. Plenty of time for that later.

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
Anyway, Ryan is ready, and now it's time for the
most exciting segment on the radio of its kind.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
The world.

Speaker 6 (01:37:16):
Of the day.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
All right, what is a I'm trying to grab my okay,
my trivia questions?

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
What is our dad joke of the day? Please, Anthony,
do you know.

Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
Why it is that alligators can live up to one
hundred years old? I don't know that way, there's an
increased chance that they will see you later.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
Oh yeah, dado, yeah yeah, Well, okay, what is the
what is the word of the day, please?

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Gad about?

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
The gadabout is someone who's doesn't really have a job
and they just kind of like flit about and kind
of do whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
They're not a responsible person, Ryan, Is she right? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
She probably is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
I was going to say somebody that talks a lot, but.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Oh yeah, here's a guess, educated guess both not bad.
Gad about as a person who basically goes in and
out of social activity, as by going to.

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
Many places and social events for pleasure. Oh kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:38:17):
So that reminds me of the ben Folds five song
Stevens Last Night in Town, which is one of my
favorite songs of all time. It's because but isn't it
as Steven's obviously a gad about because he would go
to all the bars and I say it was his
last night in town, so everybody would buy him drinks
and then left.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Massive ben Folds fan on this side, So thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Excellent great song There you Go, which does the internet
slang acronym t L d R mean t L semi
colon d R mean, I know what it means.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
Drives me crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Uh no, you guys house t L semi colon d
R all.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
Caps, because I know what this means.

Speaker 5 (01:38:58):
I don't if you're one of those people that types
out too long but still comments on the dr it
makes me insane.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
I hate that. I'm like, stop, I've seen I just
didn't know what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
Just stop typing. Okay, you didn't read it, Stop typing anyway,
Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
I didn't know jepardy category anticipate the previous conversation, so Ryan,
I was willing this before the PSL conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
The category is time to fall into autumn.

Speaker 6 (01:39:23):
Oh nice, let's yes, let's go swea weather, baby boo
and autumn gold are varieties of this gord that's popular
during fall.

Speaker 5 (01:39:35):
What is pumpkin?

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Oh my gosh, Brian, I'm terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:39:40):
An early version of this tradition was in November of
nineteen eleven, when you university.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Oh, I don't know, I would guess do it? I
guess yes, you were so you know what you were
going to say.

Speaker 6 (01:39:51):
Early version of this tradition in November nineteen eleven is
as far.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
As you got. Yep, yeah, I know it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
When the University of Missouri's athletic director alumni visit for
the Kansas game.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
What is homecoming? Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:40:05):
I didn't know that, by the way, until I got
the rest of the question.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:40:08):
His fall begins in North America. So does this zodiac sign? Oh, Ryan,
what's a score?

Speaker 7 (01:40:16):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
Wrong? Before? I don't know the numb I don't know
what I know what I am? It is libra libra?

Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:40:26):
In the eighth century, November first emerge as this holy
day to honor the inanity?

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
What are all Saints day of the canonized?

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
And finally, from the Latin four fall off. This adjective
describes trees that lose their leaves.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
What is deciduous eminence?

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
I hapen know about all those things had if you would,
if you had rung in later that was where they
ringing and early came to bite you in the bottom.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
It was lean, But come on, Ryan, it was a
fall category. Well, no, it's my first time a year.
What guests do you have in today?

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
Ryan?

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
We got Baron Browning on the show. Ed Rusher has
been having a terrific camp. Looks really good. In the
preseason game.

Speaker 14 (01:41:09):
We'll have him on and I had a chance to
have a really fun conversation with Lucas Kroll, the Broncos
tight end, and we'll bring you some of.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
That as well.

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
All Right, that's all coming up on KOA Sports, along
with your chance to get registered for a pair of
season Broncos tickets. That's all coming up next.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Keep it right here on koa