08-21-24 FULL SHOW - Barack and Michelle come out rhetorical Guns Blazing

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
From Chicago for the Democratic National Convention.

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Speaker 5 (00:27):
Keeping Sad bab Welcome, welc. Welcome to the uh Wednesday
edition of the show. Forgot what data was right there.

Speaker 6 (00:37):
It's been a busy week at the d NC in Chicago.
We are in the United Center looking right upon the
Michael Jordan's statue that is right a front of us.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
And last night was a big night.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
Let's talk about it because a lot of stuff is
on the blog today for you to check out. Go
to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for
the headline that says eight twenty one twenty four blog
Barroccan Mischie, we all come out rhetorical guns blazing.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Click on that and here are the headlines you will
find within.

Speaker 7 (01:06):
Are you going with listening office half of American all
with ships and clipments and say that's going to press plans.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Today?

Speaker 6 (01:12):
On the blog looking forward to Senators Michael Bennett, John
Hickenlooper Today Day two was about attacking Trump. Doug Emhoff
is the secret weapon for Harris. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
The message is that Dems are just like us?

Speaker 8 (01:27):
But are they?

Speaker 5 (01:29):
This is what is my computer doing? Oh, I see
what's happening? Sorry guys. Why did Barack and Michelle speak
Tuesday night? Why Harris needs to be pressed by the press.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Economists are panning Harris's economic plans about wokeness. Democrats may
tank the property tax compromise. Social studies ain't what it
used to be. We have the framework for magic mushrooms.
We won't have central TT anytime soon. Ford scales back
their ev plans. Marriage is the fountain of youth for
aging men. Pff is your BFF? I wonder if Raygun

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will be there? What percentage of Denver homes are over
a million bucks? One of our wine regions is in
the top ten. The dairy block got a refresh, and
Biker Jims finds a home. John Stossel examines Kamala Harris.
Why does the Biden admin hate making sure only citizens
can vote? And technical issues will be over Friday afternoon?

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I bet, but I changed that headline it didn't update yet.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Dang it.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Let me see if I can get that last sline
because there was an update on the story. It wasn't
just me being an idiot. I mean that's possible that
I'm just an idiot. The internet here sucks. Can we
just have that comment right.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Now, speA for yourself. I think it's great.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
The internet is usually fit. No, it's not loading very quickly,
it's just taking forever. And the new headline is is
the economy as good as Democrats have been telling us?
And that is about a revised jobs report that is horrific.
And I want to kind of amend something I noticed
something like, as a matter of fact, I noticed a

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few things last night. Let me pull up my notes
to myself as we were in the building last night
for pretty much all of the programming.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
We got here in time for the role call.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
And you know, in my list of ways the DNC
versus the RNC, one of the things that the DNC
has that is much better than the rn C was
was production values, and production values being what they were
were going to, Uh, just what do you what do
you point in? What are you putting at rob o?

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It's very distracting because you're al on either side of me.
We're going to talk to Rob Dawson.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
In just a second. So the production values here are
pretty outstanding.

Speaker 9 (03:40):
Me.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
Last night roll call, which is a pretty boring thing
normally where they go from state to state and they
commit their electoral votes to the candidate. This was a formality.
It wasn't even a real role call because they had
already done.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
The role call to get past some issues with ballot
access in Ohio. So they had already done the role call.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
It was already taken care of. And last night you
should have seen it. It was like a rock concert
in here. There was lights, there was a DJ who
was playing songs that connected to that state.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
I mean, it was like a concert. It was crazy.
Rob Dawson was there, and Rob Dawson is here.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Hey, good morning around just the time.

Speaker 10 (04:17):
Sorry about that. It was fine getting getting an uber.
You know, everything goes off.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Schedule, that says, well, you know what I have to
The RNC was on schedule. They were like a finely
tuned on schedule machine. Last night they were a little
more on scheduled. They were pretty much on schedule for
the speakers.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Last night.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
They didn't have to skip over anybody. They didn't have
to ask James Taylor not to sing. So it was
a little bit more on schedule last night. But you
have been talking to delegates and running around and sort
of meeting some of the people from the Colorado delegation.
What are you What is your takeaway so far? Rob,
you were at the RNC, you know, now you're at
the DNC. You talked to delegates at the RNC. How

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would you compare? Are they similar? Are they different? What's
the difference there?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Similar?

Speaker 10 (05:03):
And that they're both upbeat about their candidates and I
think up until a month ago we couldn't say the
same thing about the Democrats. I think if Joe Biden
was at the top of the ticket, this would be
a definitely different convention, like a different kind of hope,
like hoping we can make it and you know, as
opposed to hope that they can win, which is what we're.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Having right now.

Speaker 10 (05:24):
There's just a lot of excitement, you know everyone you
a lot of the delegates. Work begins here a little
bit too. Remember, they're gonna they're the ones that are
really going to try to get their candidate over the
finish line.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Come November.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
And that is what this whole thing is all about, right,
This is just about a big and I have to
say I do think the Democrats do a better job
in actively requesting that people get involved. Like we've heard
that message over and over and over. It's not enough
to be here. You've got to go home. You got
to organize your friends and neighbors. You've got to get everybody,

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make sure they're registered to vote, ask them if they
have a voting plan.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
We've heard variations of that from multiple speakers, especially President
Barack Obama last night.

Speaker 10 (06:08):
Yeah, and that translates to the local level. Because Shad Mehrab,
the Democratic State Party share he said all politics is local.
That's been a theme for their party. And I remember
you mentioned this on your show a number of times.
The infrastructure for the Colorado Democrats one hundred times better
than the infrastructure for the Colorado Republicans. Shad Mehrab said, Hey,

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we're trying to compete now in places where we've never
competed before. Yeah, because we feel like if Venaro lost
in one election, maybe we could go into the wing
column and the next one, Well.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
They've got to be looking at CD three C three.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
C three is in play right now because Adam Frish
has raised an absolute truckload of money in a district
that he barely lost last time to Lauren Bobert. I
don't know if Jeff Hurd has enough name recognition to
get it done. See that district leans Republican, but it
doesn't lean hard Republican, so it's not like it used

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to be when it was before it was redrawn.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
And so that's a gettable seat for them.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
They're trying to keep your deer at Caraveo as well
in the CDA.

Speaker 10 (07:15):
Yeah topic in every day of the College Breakfast, so
farest keeping a deer at Caraveo. And could you imagine
a seven to one Democrats if they get Caraveo and
CD three would be seven to one, right, yeah, because
that would only.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Be well yes to do because CD four is going
to remain Republican, I believe, and then.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Five will be Republican.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
But I think Democrats would love six to two.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Oh God, why wouldn't they? I mean that would be fantastic.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
I think Gabe Evans is a better candidate. Let me
let me walk that back.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
I think Jeff Hurd is a perfectly fine candidate. I
don't want to disparage him in any way, but Gabe
Evans is known in his district. He already has name
id in his district because he is currently serving in
the legislature. I think that race, the Deer Caraveo race,
is going to be very, very very close. It was
just moved into the leans or toss up category. So
that is a winnable race for Republicans and Democrats know it.

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So they're going to be doing all of the things
they're talking about. They're getting people to walk, they're getting
people to knocked doors, they're getting people to go out
for the candidates. And at the same time, the Colorado
Republican Party is led by a man who is desperately
clinging to power because he has nothing else in his
life except to continue to destroy the Republican Party.

Speaker 10 (08:25):
And Gabe Evans, by the way, has an enormous trailer.
Yeah you seen this long time?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean now, yesterday, we have the
chance to talk to some delegates about We asked him
a simple question. We asked it at the RNC of
delegates there as well. The simple question was why should
Kamala Harris be president, and this is what we got back.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Why should Kamala Harris be president?

Speaker 9 (08:49):
She won't disrespect our veterans, especially those Medal of Honor winners.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Why should Kamala Harris be president? Because she has more
experience than the other candidates and she has the best intentions.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Quite frankly, the work that she's done is pushing them
more America forward. If we go the other direction, and
then we're definitely choosing.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
To go backwards.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
But I think she will bring us forward.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Why should Kamala Harris be president?

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Because she cares about people, She's working hard, and she's
actually doing the work to talk to voters and figure
out what they care about.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Why Shouldkamala Harris be president?

Speaker 7 (09:19):
I think she's up to the job.

Speaker 11 (09:21):
She has a wealth of experience, and I think, you know,
President Biden's done a great job, and I think we
need to keep a good times coming. And I think
Donald Trump's the step in the other direction.

Speaker 12 (09:31):
What you learn as a small business owner is if
you fire somebody for poor performance, you don't rehire them
four years later thinking they're going to do a better job.
We're going to move forward, Kamala Harrison, We're rejecting Donald Trump,
finally sending.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Him to the dustment of history.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Why should Kamala Harris be president?

Speaker 13 (09:46):
She should be the president because she's the most qualified
anyone else.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
If you look at the other option is either this
or that, and we want this. Why should Kamala Harris
be president?

Speaker 14 (09:56):
Because she will be the first black woman the Southern
Asian descent. But also she loves falter youth, she loves
fixing homelessness, she loves dealing the problems, solving problems, and
so I think she'll be a great president for us
and the first woman ever not just a personal color,
but a woman.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's where I can row. I know she should be
president because she's the most qualified.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
That's the simple and easy answer.

Speaker 13 (10:17):
She knows women's issue, she knows about family, she knows
what brings people together. She knows about prescription jaws, the
need for housing, a need for a better education.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
She just understands this stuff.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
You know, she's ready for the dat.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Guys, Can I talk about that she's got the most
experience for just a second. She's running against a person
who's actually done the job of president for four years.
So I don't think that is a winning argument outside
of the convention.

Speaker 10 (10:50):
No, no, it's not because unless they believe that Donald
Trump should should never be president in the first place,
that we're going back to twenty sixteen.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Yeah, I mean the notion we don't want to go
back is fine. But one of the things, a couple
of things that have kind of gelled for me over
the past couple of days. Last night, we did not
hear any talk about how great the economy was. Did
you notice this, Yeah, one single bit of this economy
is great because it's not translating for people who were

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having trouble buying groceries, who are having trouble pay in
their power bills because everything is so much more expensive.

Speaker 10 (11:23):
The metrics, some metrics may say it's good, but yes, don't.
People don't feel it. And this was a topic across
the country. I did some hits across the country today,
and it just seems like the Democrats have expertly avoided
what they don't want to talk about. And I guess
that happens to conventions, but I feel like the Democrats
have it even a little bit more on point what.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I heard last night.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
A couple things in President Barack Obama speech last night
they have literally taken some of the accomplishments of Donald
Trump and have now somehow projected them on to Kamala Harris.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
And let me give you a case point.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Donald Trump was the mastermind administration behind the Abraham Accords,
which was the most significant shift in Middle East alliances
that has been in the modern era, certainly since you know,
the late seventies. And in the Abraham Accords, there weren't
no new wars that broke out while he was in charge.

(12:21):
And yet Barack Obama says, We're going to have chaos
again in the world. I'm like, what do we have
right now? We've got the war in Ukraine, We've got
what's happening in the Middle East. We're about to have
World War three with with Israel and all of Iran's proxies,
and so we didn't have that when Donald Trump is president.
But he seamlessly then says, oh, Kamala Harris is all
about peace. She's going to bring peace to the world.

(12:42):
And I'm like, but what is the Biden administration actually
done well?

Speaker 10 (12:47):
Thou think about the Democrats detail to presentation here. Obviously
both parties do this, but we're at this convention they're
confusing perhaps chaos with words rather than the end result.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Was the end results chaos or were the words to.

Speaker 10 (13:03):
Get there chaos lesson And I think they just want
to keep on centering on what correct.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Trump says correct.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
One hundred percent. But we've talked about this on the
show extensively. I think one of the reasons that Trump
is successful when it comes to foreign policy is because
everybody around the world thinks he's crazy. And when you're
dealing with someone you think is crazy and you don't
know how they're going to react, you are much less
likely to do something crazy.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
And I think there's real validity to that. In addition,
I've got to go back and find this.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
So I saw a video of a man talking, an
African American gentleman about the negotiations that went on with
the Taliban, between Trump and the Taliban. So he says,
here's Trump talking to these negotiators from the Taliban, and
he's got a translator there to translate, and Trump says
to the translator, tell them that here are the deal,
here are the terms of the deal, and if they

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break the deal, I'm going to kill them.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
And the translators like I can't say that. Trump's like,
say it, So he says it.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
The Taliban people look at Trump holds up a picture
of the Taliban leader's house and says, there you go,
puts it down and walks out. Now, in terms of
normal diplomacy, that's crazy, right, Like, people don't do that
in normal diplomacy.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
However, was it effective? I kind of think it was.

Speaker 10 (14:18):
And then my question would be, then we have concentrated
ever since I think the debate June twenty fifth or
twenty sixth, so much domestic economy thinking about that, and
then day by day wondering if Biden is going to
drop out three weeks of that. Yeah, does something big
in the firing world happen in October?

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Well, we've got some news that they're making some progress
on an Israeli ceasefire, but of course some assa is
coming back and saying, oh, no, no, no, we wanted
to ceasefire from May thirty first, we don't want the
ceasefire now.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
And they're also complaining.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
That after Biden sort of proposed the ceasefire that Israel
kept fighting.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
I'm like, but she didn't sign the ceasefire.

Speaker 10 (14:59):
So yeah, we are still going on That's what I
just wonder if if there's something in a foreign government
that could swing this election, because we're so centered on
the domestic that this whole political summer has been nuts.
I just don't think people have been thinking foreign policy,
But can something happen to make them all about so
I would?

Speaker 6 (15:16):
I mean anything's possible, right, I mean I until this
election cycle, I used to say anything's possible, but I
didn't really think anything was possible. Now I truly think
anything is possible, like anything could happen at any given moment.
So Rob Dawson, what are you doing today? You're covering obviously.
Governor Jerry poul is speaking tonight.

Speaker 10 (15:35):
Pulis speaking tonight. We think early in the program, sometime early,
which will be good. We're able to catch delegates after that.
We don't know if we could get to their section
or not, but some of them, because they're not on
the floor, we could get them and get while they're
getting a snack. The aack of time actually, and TV
celebrities that I saw that no one else cares about
except me, Andrew Mitchell and Manu Rose and who Manu

(15:58):
Rajah No I'm mental, Manu Raju very loud. I bet
I know he he comes across the TV very loud
in person, though very loud.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Okay, good people say that about me too. When we
get back, We've got.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Some news about a Rod's he's it's a secret non
sexual man crush. Can Is that fair? Can I make
that statement?

Speaker 15 (16:18):
Non?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (16:20):
All right, we'll talk about that after the news traffic weather.
Thanks Rob Dawsin, We'll talk to you later. My producer,
Anthony Rodriguez is so excited about this news.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
What is it?

Speaker 7 (16:30):
A rock breaking news just within the last couple minutes
via Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos bo Nix. No
surprise based on the way he's playing camping in the preseason,
is officially the starting quarterback of your Denver Broncos.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
And we believe that, believe it's time.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Yes, yes, I mean it's it's no surprise. He's played outstanding.
He has clearly been Sean Payton's guy in camp the preseason.
He has just just elevated his play. He's cerebral, he's
he's keeping his eyes down field. It doesn't look like
a rookie navigates the pocket with is so much poise
and is clearly just the leader of this squad. It's
like I said, it's no surprise, mod just a matter

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of when if they would have waded through the remainder
of the preseason, because Sean made a big point about, hey,
you know, I'm not I don't want to name in
the starters of any of the positions because I want
to keep these guys essentially Kemp competing. But it was
a matter of it was so cut and dry and
clear that everyone knew it.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
I think that I have never agreed with a like.
Think about all the times we've heard the term quarterback battle, right, Yeah,
that never goes well for the team that's having a
quarterback battle if it goes into the season.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah in the season.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
But and so I think that Bonick's having the confidence
and knowing that he's going to be the starter, it
allows him to just drill down, learn more of the
game plan.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
And it's been really fascinating.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
If you haven't heard our coverage during training camp, of
the interviews that have been Ryan has done and other
people have done, there's been a lot of players who
have essentially said, look, you know, when he's out there,
he's making good decisions, He's he's putting the ball where
it needs to go.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
So it sounds like the team is also ready for Bonix.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Well, the only way that this guy is a rookie
is on the on the sheets of the roster has
the R in parentheses, Otherwise you would not be able
to tell the way that he cares himself. He's got
the most college starts, I think in college football history.
He is just he's just taken this thing by the rains,
which is what I think a lot of people expected it,
expected it to go because he had the confidence already
being a confident guy in general, then coming in knowing

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that Sean Baydon shows him first round quarterback twelfth overall
as being his guy from the get go. Their chemistry
was already there, and so he had the vote of
confidence based on on not his draft position and kind
of based on the way that camp has gone. He's
been given every every opportunity to succeed and he's and
he's taken that. So again, this is not a surprise,
is just a matter of when, not if. And so

(18:48):
it's electric. I mean, like you said, you felt it
out there the players right now that you said it's electric. Yeah,
well we're gonna be doing it all season long because
a lot of people, a lot of them actional media
that have come out to camp, have have predicted argue
that the Broncos might be one of the surprise team
this year solely because of what Bo was gonna do
for this offense. We already knew the defense was going

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to create darn good. Bo has looked that good, that promising.
I think Pro Football Focus thing is one of, if
not the highest rated player in the preseason, if not
if it might be amongst all players or at least
the rookies. But he's just looked so calm and confident.
This is a guy that is going to run Sean
Payton's offense. With all due respect to Russell Wilson and
for the few games Jared to him last year, this

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is the guy that's going to run the Sean Payton
offense the way that Shawn envisions it. That's why Bo's
the guy. Everyone's already said. I've lost track how many
times we heard it before we even saw him play.
I've lost track how many times I've seen the comparisons
to Drew Brees. I know it's way, way, way too early,
but having those moments of saying, this could be exactly
what we saw in that offense in New Orleans. That

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is exciting, That is exciting. Broncos Country is so so
fired up.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
I would not expect to see him in any more
preseason games. Why I give anybody else a chance to
scheme against him?

Speaker 16 (19:59):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Now the battle goes to court the QB two because
everyone had figured it would be between Bowen and Jared
Sidham for the starting position.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Now that that's been solidified, honestly, it.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
Is a even more so battle for Jared now for
QB two because Zach Wilson. Ever since the first preseason game,
I think there's been there's been a little bit of
like an on switch, something has changed for him. I
selfishly want to see a full year with Zach with
Sean Payton. So in a perfect world, they don't have
the roster spot for I don't think, but seeing them
carry three quarterbacks will be would be ideal. I don't
think they have the stars a rookie contract.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I think he is.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
I don't know, but you do say have some cap
savings with him.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd like to have
him keep all three. That's why I'm asking if he's
got a rookie contract.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
In Zack Wilson we got for a.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
Bargain son Jared sim has been a league for a while.
I don't I don't know, no, no this use me
non the rookie contract now they signed him for. I
think it was a two year, ten million dollar deal
ahead of last year and it was a day one signing.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
For the Broncos.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
So okay, Sean likes Jared Sidham, but you cannot go
against the pure natural talent of Zach Wilson and seeing
him develop, which we haven't seen him do yet in
the NFL, especially not in New York. Seeing Zach Wilson
here with Sean Payne for four year would be great.
So now Stidham's got the battle, I think with Zach
in a third preseason game, it'd be huge for Zach

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Wilson obviously, now big for for Jared Sim we expect
to play as well. But I think currently people would
say maybe Zach Wilson might edge out Stidham and then
if they don't go three, and then Stidham saving some
cap as well, might be cut.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Well, we've got him coming in on the text line
nicks any doubts I may have had, I'm a bow leaver,
says this text. Lol, don't get ahead of yourself. There
a Rod to be happy with a winning the season.
I don't think a Rod said we were going to
win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
I don't think that's what.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Most most people and I would as well, especially with
the first four. I think three of the first four
on the road. And so we're talking about the high side. Honestly,
it is about nine and eight, ten and seven in
the AFC is probably not going to get you in
the playoffs, maybe the last wildcard spot. So this is
about this is about the building. The process is in
front of us. There's no question mark about what the
future looks like. It's Boonix and let him to let

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this team develop with him this year. It is about him.
It's not about the record is It's all about the
development and moving forward with a clear and concise planet quarterback.
What the offense wants to do. Rookie quarter it's still
a rocky rookie quarterback. Might not look like it, but
there's a rookie quarterback. But the plan is in place.
That is the most vital most important.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I heard Alfred william To say we have three years
to win a super Bowl, our super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
When there was three years rookie contract, rookie contract, and
you have and you have a he's a first round quarterback.
When aveins, you're gonna have the fifth year options, so
you really have four and if you want to stretch
out to five before you start to start the thing
about paying Bonick, and if he's but Thenny's elderly, he
is a guy, And honestly, in the NFL, you don't
wait that long anyway, if you know he's the guy,
we're talking about, probably paying bon Nicks maybe after year three.
So so yeah, Alfred's exactly right. You know a few

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years before you got to pay the guy, get him
his money, and and and honestly, you got to maximize
the talent around him.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Right now when he's on this rookie contract.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
He they they announced him in the mix of time.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Well done, that's.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
That's a text well done texture.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
Okay, when we get back here in just a minute,
we got to take quick time out in just a second,
I want to address this comment that just came in
for the text line when I was talking about Trump's
foreign policy and the way he is a non traditional
diplomat and that he basically negotiates like a businessman, and
it's not the way that.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Diplomacy has been done.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Someone hit this text line and said, look how far
Iran's nuclear program has advanced since he pulled out of
that agreement. That scares me for Israel in the Middle
East as a whold. I'm just going to say this,
and we'll get into it a little bit more on
the other side. If you think that Israel ever stopped
building nuclear weapons, you are crazy.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I'm just going to say it, because that deal.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
If you go back and look at the fulfillment of
that deal in terms of inspections and things of that nature,
they were not being done. They had to give him
like six months notice. And even then Iran was like, sorry,
you can't go in here. You can't go in here,
you can't go in this military facility. They've been developing
nuclear weapons.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
The entire time.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
We're just not paying them anymore as they developed nuclear weapons.
So that is my response to their ay. Rod sounds
like the liberals over Harris lol. Convention went to his head.
He had a vibe he does he has a vibe
for bo Nix. Okay, for the person that said we're
going to win the Super Bowl. I love your optimism,
I love your moxie, and i'd love to think you

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were right.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
But I'm also a realist who's been watching football for
a very long time, a very very long time.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Now, coming up later in the show today, we're very
excited Senator John Hickenlooper and Senator Michael Bennett are joining us.
But when we get back, I want to talk about
an experience that I had yesterday that I found a
little confusing. Now I just want to ask you guys
to think about this on the break. Okay, So yesterday,
we're standing in an area where delegates and convention goers

(24:45):
are walking past us, and we're trying to get those
little snippet interviews that we just played a little while ago,
of asking people ten seconds or less, why should Kamala
Harris be president?

Speaker 5 (24:54):
None of the women would talk to me.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
And it was so weird because I thought, you know,
no problem, like the women will want their voices heard.
We're going to discuss the difference between that and our
experience at the RNC when we get back.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Keep it right here on Koa.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Our bigger news for many color Rodden's is that we
finally have a starter at quarterback. And Dave Logan, the
voice of the Broncos as well as the voice after
me at three o'clock, even though he tries to get
me to do a show every day for him, is
joining us now to talk about Bonix being named the starter.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
Hello, Dave Logan, I'm just always trying to expose you
to a different audience. Man.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Thank you, Dave. You're a giver.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
You know what I like that about you?

Speaker 16 (25:37):
You are a giver.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
Me realize that.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Well, you guys have been out at training camp, You've
been watching practice. What are your immediate thoughts about this
Bonix being named the starter?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
You know what, not a surprise at all.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
I had said at before camp started that I thought
the only way that Bow was not going to be
the starter when the Bob was traveled to Seattle in
the opener was that if he proved to Sean that
he just is not quite ready for that job, right,
and and clearly that has not been the case. He's
he's uh, he's played well in both preseason games. Uh.

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He looks calm, he looks poised, He's obviously accurate with
the ball. I mean, Broncos were impressed even before or
right after the draft, before OTA's and camp, how how
quickly he processes things. So, I mean, I think this
is this is sort of something we saw coming and

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we just didn't know exactly when Sean was gonna announce it.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You know, I'm gonna ask this in in this way specifically,
a lot of guys want a quarterback with a big arm.
It seems that Sean Payton also want to with a
big brain. Is that what you get about bow knicks
and how he views the game and how quickly he
picks things up.

Speaker 8 (26:54):
Well, I mean, I think, Mandy, I think you get
you get a young guy that is all about ball,
which I can guarantee is Sean likes the son of
a coach, so he's been around the game a lot.
He's had a lot of experience in college at both
Auburn and Oregon. I think he's got Whether or not
he's got a big, big arm, I don't know, but

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to me, he's got plenty enough arm that he can
be a successful quarterback in the league. I think that,
I mean, you want quarterbacks that that understand what you're
trying to run an offense. When the ball needs to
come out, it should come out and be able to
process that information. I think Peyton's offense is probably a

(27:38):
little more worthy, a little more footage than maybe the
other NFL offenses at least some and so I think
it's I think Sean Payton has been pleasantly pleased with
the fact that bo Nicks has been able to process stuff,
and the most important thing, it has not looked too
big for him. We've all seen rookie quarterbacks and win

(28:00):
come in and guys that eventually turned in uh turn
into good players. But right from the start, it's a
little fast, it's a little big. I'm a little confused,
and I haven't seen any of that from bow Nix.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Tawdy.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
David is a rod here. Got a question for you
as we are out here at the DNC. I'll tie
it in saying this, Sean Payton, as you noted, has
let the democratic democratic process play out for bo to
earn this position. You mentioned late last week, I think
you were out at camp. You had mentioned their there
a couple of throws where you go, Okay, that's pretty good.
What are some of the most notable moments through camp

(28:33):
in these preseason games that have made you sit back
and say, okay, Bo Nicks has has got the stuff
to be the starting quarterback. What have been some of
those moments for you that have that have indicated that, well, I.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
Mean, again a rod I think, I think when you
look at him in camp, you look to see uh
when they when they get out of the huddle. A
lot of times you'll see young quarterbacks Wally they get
the line of streammage and they'll be a moment, they'll
be a pause, they'll be hey, wait a minute as
they ask question two quarterback coach or an offensive coordinator,

(29:04):
uh or young quarterbacks have a tendency to put the
ball on the ground uh from from the center right
and not know exactly where the ball goes. He just
he just has looked like a subtle sort of guy.
And normally speaking, rookie quarterbacks, they don't they don't look.

Speaker 17 (29:24):
Settled to this level quite so soon.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
And he's been accurate with the ball. He did. He
hit a couple of throws in the ones you're talking about,
one to Courtland Sudden in the in the Green Bay
work during practice last week. That I mean he touched
this thing right over a linebacker's head, and yet he
got it down quickly enough to Courton could could catch
it and protect himself. But that ball's in the air

(29:48):
too long, then Courtland is going to get lit up.
So I just think it's it's all in all. He
looks like he has a firm grasp of the operation,
and he and he was drafted in the first room.
Each Peyton pick beam with the Troll foll overall selections.
So you know, if your first round quarterback drafted that high,
that sooner or later you're expected to be the guy.

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And I think in this case, it's just been sooner.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
So Dave, we know that a rookie quarterback is hard
to plan against when you were a defensive coach on
another team. How many games does it take for the
rest of the league to sort of get hip to bo.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Nix's tels or Bonix's weaknesses.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
How many weeks does he get before they start to
catch up with him a little bit and be able
to scheme against him more effectively.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
Yeah, I think that's a really good question, Mandy. I
think initially and I think this is where Sean is
going to earn his money you're going to see defensive coordinators.
In the first four weeks they play four good defensive teams,
Seattle on the road, Pittsburgh at home, Tampa on the road,
and the Jets on the road. Now, the Jets are
an elite defense Seattle and Seattle always very difficult. The

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Steelers the best part of their team is the defense,
and Tampa isn't above average defense as well. So he's
going to have He's gonna have some challenges just because
of the personnel and the teams that he plays. But
I think in terms of your questions, I would say
four weeks, bo Nicks will have a book on him
in four games that other defensive coordinators will be able

(31:15):
to go back and look and see and here's what
he likes, Here's what he doesn't like, Here's what bothers him.
How do we make sure that we take away the
easy throws things that Sean Payton is going to try
to create that allow bo Nicks to gain some confidence. Right,
easy throws, ball come out quick, All right, Well, we
as a defense want to make sure that maybe we

(31:37):
play tighter to receivers, we try to take away some
of the easy throws. So maybe There'll be some deep
opportunities for Knicks in those first four weeks as well,
But normally speaking, I think it's four games and then
there's a book on you and they start to go
to work on you.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
Dave super quick last one for me. Now, with bow
Nick solidified as the starter, the numbers show that backup
quarterback for the Denver Broncos will play at some point
in twenty twenty four, whether it be injury or something else.
Now that the turn the tables have turned to Stidham
versus Zach Wilson, how vital do you think this third
preseason game is and how how do you see it
going out? Because I think since that first preseason game,

(32:13):
Zach has kind of looked a little bit different. Maybe
a switch has turned on for him. Do you anticipate
Zach making a big time case for that QB two
now that that Bos the starter?

Speaker 8 (32:21):
Tough to tell a rod. I think I'm safe in
saying that that Champayton likes Zack Wilson very much, And
he made the comment this week in a Telligsion interview
that when he was talking to Zach, he said, listen,
my job is to make you millions of dollars, whether
it's here or whether it's somewhere else. And so that
comment made me think that Jared Stidham is going to

(32:43):
be the backup quarterback right that they're trying to basically
rehab Zack Wilson in his career to the point whether
it's here in Denver or somewhere else, that he can
get back in the league and become become a player,
because he certainly has the arm talent. Is his arm
talent I think is elite. It's the best arm pure
arm talent the Broncos have in camp. But that that

(33:04):
doesn't alone make him the most most the best quarterback
to start. So I don't know how Sean will balance
this in this last preseason game. Maybe he splits it
with with Zach and Jared, you know, maybe he plays bo.
I don't know. I mean, I don't think I would,
but I think the backup quarterback thing is an interesting one.

(33:26):
If I had guests right now, I would guess he
is leaning towards Jared's Diidham, But that would be conjecture
in my part.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
That is Dave Logan not only the voice of the
Broncos but also part of the Triumvirate of KOA Sports
right after this show.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Thanks a lot, Dave. We appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 6 (34:17):
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Speaker 8 (34:47):
Now.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
I do want to remind you guys also that our
social media has been outstanding. A Rod is doing it
just amazingly well. Rob Dawson is putting stuff on social media.
So if you don't follow a either on Instagram, Twitter
or Facebook at Koa, Colorado, you were missing everything, including
the video that we played earlier.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
And I want to address the.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
Video that we played where we were just asking delegates
because a lot of people are coming onto the text
line and say.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Mandy, why didn't you ask them a follow up question
like how's the economy? That's not what that was about.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
We did the same thing at the RNC where we
just walked up and said, hey, why should Donald Trump
be president? We did the same thing yesterday, why should
Kamala harrisp president?

Speaker 5 (35:26):
We played it now.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Something interesting happened yesterday though. When we were at the RNC.
We were standing as people were delegates were walking towards
the Feiser Forum, and we didn't have any problem getting
people to talk to us.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
None.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
I mean no problem. It was the men, it was women.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
It was like everybody wanted even people who weren't delegates,
because we were looking for actual voting delegates.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
That was kind of important to us.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
I was thought of the camaraderie inside United Center last night.
Was the camaraderie we got from the delegates to the
RNC outside Feisser a month ago. That didn't translate from
those that we saw inside United Centered last night to
those that were going INDI United Center last night. They
seemed like super abrasive and super skeptical and like, I
don't know if I want to do this, But the
DARNC was totally different.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
What's interesting about that experience was we could not get
women to talk to us last night.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
And this is how I said.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
I would go, hey, are you a delegate? And they
would say.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Yes, and I look first for three seconds, and then
I asked.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
You a ten second easy question like that is how
I prefaced it. And they would not talk to us
and that.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
And then we got with two or three totals yes.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
We had to like stand there an extra ten minutes
just to get enough women. So it wasn't all men
talking last night.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
And I just thought that was really odd.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
It was because I thought, here we go democratic women.
It would have never occurred to me that they are
not confident in their opinions.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
And that was the other thing.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
None of them just said I'd ask them the question,
they would go oh, and they'd have to think about it.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Huh, what is going on?

Speaker 7 (36:54):
How ironic the joy messaging didn't get trickled down to
the delicates well enough, No, it's did not come from
them until they realized after their answer they're like, oh
this ain't too bad, and like, well we're done with you.
We got our answer.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Good yea, yeah, there you go. But we were not
asking follow up questions. What that was about.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
I like the raw reaction, not letting them time to think,
like why do you why would you would you want
Common to be president?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
And oh people just bam. They just quickly knew exactly
what they wanted to say, and.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
Comments were kind of the same ilk of what we've
been saying. Yeah, a lot of them were really surface
level about the joy, the happiness, and how what she's
going to be the first this I get a lot
of those things, but not a lot of policy talk,
A lot of favorite of policy.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
And again, conventions are not about policy.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
Position from the delegates, you thought that that would be
a driving force at least a big a big hit
or policy position, but.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
None of that.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
I think that they have been consuming this week the
talking points. The talking points are she has so much experience,
she's do you remember and maybe I don't know if
you were paying attention to politics in twenty sixteen when
Hillary ran Oh for sure, Okay, so Hillary ran on
the she is the most qualified candidate to ever run
for president of the United States. Okay, that was like hammered. Oh,

(38:03):
she is so qualified. Nobody's ever been this qualified. She's
the most qualified person. It was absurd when they said it, right,
But also we're now hearing that with Kamala Harris, she's
the most qualified person. And I'm thinking to myself, you're
running against the guy who actually has already done the job,
So that that outside the convention, I think is a
dog that won't hunt.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
As I'm saying. This is so the point of the messaging.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
If anyone with the DNC comes across our video, they say, bam,
we are winning because all of them are were going
through all of their lines of messaging that we've had
this every single one of those delegates.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's working.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
The reason I bring this up is that I am
and Arod and are sitting there last night. We're watching
Michelle and Barack Obama tak We're watching Doug m Hoff
like be the most affable guy you ever want to
hang out with?

Speaker 7 (38:47):
In your right handsday American.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Oh seriously, it was just it was so it was
so good that we're I'm sitting there thinking to myself,
if Trump doesn't get this together, if he doesn't get
the messaging down and stop woring about what nasty name
to call her and just.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Talk about policy and talk about how things are going,
where they are not going well, and how he plans
to fix it. I do think that being here has
made me.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
Realize how little most people care about those issues. So
I think that if you have a great surface campaign,
Trump did it in twenty sixteen, make America great again,
easy to remember, easy to easy, And what does that
even mean?

Speaker 16 (39:24):
Right?

Speaker 5 (39:24):
What did that mean? It meant that we want to
make the country feel good again.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
And so now the Democrats have taken that message almost
as a matter of fact. Michelle Obamas showy, Yeah, you know,
it makes America great. She basically took the line. And
they're ignoring the fact that their candidate is part of
the current administration.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
They're running against themselves and it's working.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
They're leaning into the fact that why if no one
cares about anything beyond service level, why do we have
to waste time on it. Yeah, and that's one hundred
percent working. I mean you mentioned it. I mean if
you said on are you last night was a rock
concert and music in between all of the delegates giving
their votes to Kamala Harris. I mean, it's a it's
a full leaning and they're not it's not a disguise.

(40:10):
You know that they're they're not going in on policy.
It's all joy, it's all excitement. I mean, it's they're
leaning in and it's one hundred percent working.

Speaker 15 (40:16):
It is.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
And this is the point, like Republicans have to get
it together if they want to mount a cogent campaign
against this, because right now the momentum is squarely in
the camp of the Democrats, and there is only eleven
weeks till election day and ballance drop in like five
weeks in some places.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
On that note, let me ask you this. Michelle towards
the end of her speech did something I didn't hear
about it from any of the other speakers, and that
was kind of making it sound like and I get
part of it, but like the desperation plea, like almost
as if they are they think they are still behind
despite what now the current polls are saying. Did you
hear that the end of Michelle's see I was.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
A little strange.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
It sounds like we're confident, we're this Trump is that,
but like we have to do this now, get it
in gear, as if they're still believe in they're behind.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
That's because complacency is the death of voter turnout, right,
If people think that the I think that's part of
the reason that Hillary lost is because all the polls
were saying Hillary was ahead, she's ahead, she's ahead, did
Trump's never gonna win? And then all of a sudden
does that suppress voter turnout? So this particular election, I
think is going to be very close, and it's going
to be a game of voter turnout, Right, that is

(41:25):
going to be a huge part of who wiz talking.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
About getting action a Barack Obama in his speech when
I forget what he had mentioned about Trump and the
crowds started to boo, he goes, don't don't don't boo vote. Yeah,
that would that the crowd would nuts for that, because
that's that's that's encouraging action like that. Yeah, it's not
about speaking, so I'm a boo. It's not about complaining,
which he harped on what Trump's done, don't no, no, no,
don't boo, and then the crowd's kind of like, wait
what and he goes vote yes and don't just say something,

(41:50):
do something else.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Yeah, if they're working on And that's been the consistent
theme throughout this convention. It's not just about here, we're
going to get up and give a speech. All of
these speeches are asking Democrats to go out and organize
and knock on doors and do the things that have
to be done in order to get a cannon over
the finish line. So it's been a very interesting experience
being here. For me, I'm going to be perfectly frank. Oh,

(42:12):
I got to talk about my experiment I.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Did last night. So I've been at this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
It's good though.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
So in order to get a full vibe for the crowd,
there are a couple of things that I do. First
of all, I say hello to everyone.

Speaker 8 (42:25):
Do I not?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
I say hello to everyone a rod on the street,
I say hello to everyone here, good I do, good morning.
I'm just like pleasant to see who says hello back.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
The next part that's not the crazy part.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
The next part for the crazy part, and.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
The crazy part is last night, I went downstairs from
the press box, which is way high, and I went
to go get a couple.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Of bottles of water. So I'm on the concourse and
it is packed.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
I mean it is packed with people, and I just
gently bump into people on purpose, on purpose, I gently
bump in. I'm not like crashing into someone trying to
break their shoulder. I just do like the gentle bump.
And then we both turn around and I see what.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
The reaction is because I always say, oh, it's excuse me.
Last night, everybody had bumped into you, turner, and I
was like, oh, excuse me, excuse me.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
We all excuse each other, right, you know, you are
one hundred percent of vault In, one hundred.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Percent every single time, every single time I was the bumper,
they were the bumpy. But the people here, the Democrats
who are here, it gets really hard to continue to
believe that an entire political party is full of evil
people who want the destruction of the country. When you
come here and you see the people, and you meet
the people, and you start talking to people and you

(43:28):
really start to At least for me, it has reminded
me that we are more alike than we are different,
and I really really believe that we all recognize the
problems in the United States of America, were just at
major odds about how to solve them.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
I mean, after Arry Helm, the guy would talk with yesterday,
Secretary of the DNZ who conducts or called Jason Ray Yesterday,
is a perfect example of that. Carries himself super well,
extremely friendly, able to discuss things that we clearly are
going to be in disagreement on, but carries He's a
perfect example of what a lot of the other people
here have been like. And that's ironic coming from the

(44:02):
man who was conducting the role call, but it's exactly that.
The way they conduct them conduct themselves as a perfect
example of everyone that we've interacted with. Everyone's been extremely
friendly and really really good about discussing difference and issues too,
which is which has been kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
It's been very interesting. And like I said, we're at
their party, so.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
I keep getting the occasional text saying why aren't you
asking tougher questions because I'm at their party and I
don't want.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
To come in here and pee in the punch bowl.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Not everyone needs to engage in offensive attack journalism. I
know There's been some individuals that believe that we must
challenge and attack everyone that comes on these airwaves. But
that doesn't always have to be the case. You can
have someone on, have people on, have opinions on without
attacking them. You can knowingly knowing you and your audience
disagree with them, but having them on your program to

(44:49):
hear what they have to say here, their opinions, here,
what their experiences have been, life experiences, political experiences, and say,
I appreciate you coming on, and you go about your way.
You don't have to engage in making everyone aware of
every single disagreement you have with them at that very moment.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
That we're gonna have John Hickenlooper hopefully in the next
segment that he is coming on this hour.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
He has already committed to coming.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
On the show.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
We're looking forward to that.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
This person said on the text line you can always
text us on the Common Spirit Health text line at
five sixty six nine zero. Honestly, I think Democrats care
more about vibes and marketing and Republicans care about policy.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Do you think that's true?

Speaker 6 (45:24):
At the RNC the only time we heard about policy
it was from everyday Americans talking about some situation in
their life and why Trump's policy or policy was going.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
To either fix that or had made it better.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
Much earlier and more frequently, might I add, at the
RNC than at the DNC, how long did it take
before we got the everyday American on the stage? We
had noted It had been for a long time since
they had gotten to that yet.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
And it wasn't about abortion.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
It was about women who couldn't have an abortion, which
was not uplifting as the real people at the RNC were. Mandy, However,
if they knew you were a conservative, how would they
treat you? Tell what happened last night on media row
and when the guy asked where you're from?

Speaker 7 (46:05):
Oh yes, an individual on media roastitting right next to
us ask where we're from? And I say, Koa and Denver,
the iHeart radio station in Denver. And he had said,
I'm told you, and he says, are you as conservative
as everyone?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
He says you are?

Speaker 7 (46:21):
And I and honestly, and this is not this is
not just a can't answer, I said to means like, honestly,
I think we think for ourselves. I think relatively in
the middle and he says okay and move on. That's
the end the conversation.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
But reputation that rep apparently is there, and every single
person has been absolutely nice, and we are struggling a
little harder to get some of our local officials on
the show.

Speaker 17 (46:41):
We are we are.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
We've worked and have obviously not succeeded as well as.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
We would have liked.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Well.

Speaker 7 (46:47):
I will note there has been a line of communication
that has been pretty solid all the way through. Just
I think the scheduling that the DNC comes to offer.
I won't mention names, but today's line of scheduling was
someone that we've been trying to get on. It went
very very far, and it wound up being a case,
in my honest opinion, that it was a matter of
the scheduling the DNC not as much of wine come
on the show particularly, I will be I just pause

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going out.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
There's nothing going on right now, there's no events in
the United Center.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
There's just like training thing. You are you are just
throwing that out.

Speaker 7 (47:17):
The only one representative or senator that we have reached
out to where there was a like close to none
if any communication. Every other one has gone through the
gambit of that trying to be an interview on this show,
and a lot of them have gone pretty.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Far into them. I've come on.

Speaker 7 (47:33):
Those are the ones that are coming on, and Hick
and Luper and Bennett the next tower.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
I want to address this text message. By the way,
it's five six six nine zero.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
You can text us. I think this is interesting.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Whatever your questions are about the DNC, this is a
great time to ask them. Mandy, what is a black
person job? Per Michelle Obama? Michelle Obama dropped that line
last night and the crowd went insane. And the line
was a direct like kickback to a line that Donald
Trump used where he said immigrants are coming over the

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border and they are taking black jobs. Now, he would
have been better off of me and said American jobs,
but he said black jobs, implying that black people are
doing the low skilled labor in this country and those
are quote black jobs. So a lot of people are like, well,
that was kind of racist. That was a clap back
to something Donald Trump himself said. I actually thought that

(48:27):
was the line of the night in terms of like
fuck burn. That was like, I bet you that Donald
Trump's like, oh what superb.

Speaker 7 (48:35):
I leaned over to you, un I told you I
felt essentially that to my soul. I literally like felt
the uppercut to my jaw without actually having Michelle Obama
whack me in the face because that's how it felt.
And the entire place lost their mind.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Yeah, it was a very funny line. It was a
really funny line. Okay, we got to take a quick
time out.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
We've got John Hickenlooper coming up next, so we're gonna
take a little break early for news, trafficking and weather.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Keep it right on, Kowa.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
He was a beer maker, a restaurantur, a mayor, a governor,
and now he is the Senator from Colorado, at least
one of the two.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
John Hickenlooper, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Glad to be with you. We just had a.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
Wonderful conversation that I wish had been on the radio
about about conventions and what is expected to be happening here.
And you've spoken at a convention before. How many conventions
have you been to?

Speaker 9 (49:24):
So I never went to a convention until I had
that reckless idea I was going to run for mayor
of Denver in two thousand and three, so I did.
I obviously went two thousand and four to Boston, and
then two thousand and eight when we hosted the Obama
convention in Denver, which I mean, this convention has got
a lot of excitement. It might even be as much
excitement as Obama had, but it was that was a

(49:45):
wild time for the city of Dever.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Well, this election is a wild time for Democrats. I
mean it's been I've said multiple times on the show recently.
I used to say anything can happen in politics, and
then this last.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Summer has happened, So yeah, it really means anything happen.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
You were quoted as talking about the former of the
current president excuse me, former candidate Joe Biden making a decision.
Were you part of that process or were you around
that process?

Speaker 5 (50:13):
And what do you know about that?

Speaker 9 (50:14):
So I wasn't involved in the process. I did make
comments that I had known Joe Biden from when I
first ran for mayor. He was in the Senate and
I met him a couple of times and gave him
some advice when I was thinking about running for governor.
He said, I'll come out, I'll help you. I'll come
out and campaign for you. If that's the best, I'll
campaign against you if that helps you more. Right, he

(50:36):
was his true Joe Biden's self. My point was when
I when I made comments that Joe Biden has always
done what he thought was best for the country.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Who's never one of these people that talked about me,
me me I I.

Speaker 9 (50:50):
He always put his country before his ambition, and that
we should I kept saying, we should trust him, we
should give him time, we should let him make this
decision because he will do what's right, and he's you know,
if you look at what we got done in twenty
one and twenty twenty two with Infrastructure Bill, the Chips
plus Science Act, I mean, all those things, the Infliction

(51:13):
Reduction Act, We've got more investment into the building blocks
for a strong economy than we've done in the previous
thirty years. And Joe Biden gets a lot of credit
for that. So he's going to go down as a
great president. But he was you know, there were so
many people, so many of you know, we were getting
three thousand calls in those previous three weeks at our

(51:34):
call centers and emails around Denver and around all of Colorado,
and they were ninety two percent saying that he shouldn't run.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
Well, the switch to Kamala Harris as the candidate has
certainly energized Democrats. I mean the energy here at the
DNC is palpable. I mean people are excited, and I'm
going to be honest the speed with which the party
has imediately shifted not just to support Kamala Harris, but

(52:04):
enthusiastically support Kamala Harris. So let's be clear about that.
This isn't like, oh, this is our candidate. Now, people
are stoked. Yeah, were you surprised by that at all?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I was surprised a little bit.

Speaker 9 (52:14):
But I you know, in my brief campaign for president
back in twenty twenty, as I tell my wife Robin, I.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Did get to two percent in the polls. Hey, yeah,
that's more than I have. There, you go, you're just
getting started. I'm just getting started.

Speaker 9 (52:30):
But I you know, Kamala Harris has a an energy
and she's she's just really electric when she's on her game.
And you know, when she's one of twenty two candidates
running for president twenty twenty, that was not her element, right,
It didn't really show her off to her stress.

Speaker 6 (52:47):
I was going to ask you about that because that
was a big field and she didn't have any support,
So what do you think. Is it just because people
are aware that she's part of the Biden administration and
are more aware of her now than.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
They were back then.

Speaker 9 (53:00):
That's part of it, for sure, And she's the vice
president United States and so they're paying more attention.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
But she's also grown in these last four years. She's
traveled all over the world.

Speaker 9 (53:07):
She's met with the smartest scientist, she's met with the
top government leaders fro around the world, and she's been
in substantive negotiations around all manner of issues. So she's grown,
I think, dramatically as a person, but that energy is
still there. And hearing her stories of her childhood, I mean,
she didn't get any breaks from her family. Her mother
was a determined to make sure her kids got ano

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education right.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
That was the building block of their lives.

Speaker 9 (53:32):
And obviously Kamal Harris has taken advantage of that in
a way that you know, I mean, she's got a
really good chance of being the next president of the
United States.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
I've been asking as many people as I can.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
I wish I had more policy positions officially to ask about,
but she unrolled some economic policy positions last Friday.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
What are your thoughts on what she's already said.

Speaker 9 (53:50):
No, I support this notion that we've got to build
the economy for the middle class, where working people for
decades have been slipping behind. When you put it in inflation,
going back all the way to nineteen eighty, the percentage
of this country that is in the middle class has shrunk.
And there are a lot of arguments about why that
is and how to improve that. But I think what

(54:12):
she's talking about where we're trying to get people back
to work in places where you know, manufacturing like the
auto industry, places with you.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Joe Biden made that a commitment that he was.

Speaker 9 (54:23):
Going to address manufacturing in America, and we passed those bills.
So all of a sudden, we're building infrastructure. We're building
bridges and roads, we're building factories, we're back in the
chip business. These are the kinds of changes that help
the middle class. These are middle class jobs when you
have to build stuff, when you're building infrastructure.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
That message, I think is one that's going to resonate
because people I have noticed a shift in messaging from
the Biden campaigns saying look at the numbers, the economies
are great, the economy is great. That obviously didn't resonate
with the people that you're talking about, people who are
paying higher prices at the grocery store. So there definitely
has been a shift at this convention that messaging.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, well, and change is slow.

Speaker 9 (55:02):
But the bottom of everything is that this is when
I ran for mayor and Ryan ran for governor, I
was the first thing I always talked about was the economy.
How do you how can you build an economy that's
going to grow and as it grows more people do better.
And I think that's the challenge for any state. I mean,
even Colorado. We've done great. I mean, I think Governor

(55:22):
Pole's has done a great job of, you know, keeping
that tech growth and yet the same time encourageing advanced manufacturing.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
We have a lot of aerospace.

Speaker 9 (55:31):
All that stuff has to kind of reinforce each other.
But you've got to make sure that working people are
participating in that success. And as Colorado has done that,
it hasn't happened everywhere in the country. And I think
that's something that Kamala Harris, I mean, when you look
at her and hear what she's saying, that's what she's
talking about this whole when she talked to the autoworkers
and talked about the importance of freedom. Freedom to be

(55:52):
able to love who you want, freedom to be able
to afford not to have if you lose your job
for three months, you lose your housing, not to be
you know, a freedom of fear of losing your housing.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
All those freedoms are.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
Things that come from a more financially secure household or
a more financially secure person.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
Well, Senator, I am a deficit hawk. I have been
a deficit hawk for the last twenty years as a
radio unaware I've been very disappointed in the Republican Party
and the Democratic Party when it comes to spending. Yesterday,
Governor Jared Polis said, look, we've got to.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Do something about the deficit.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
I would love it if anyone got serious about deficit
spending in DC. Is that even a conversation that's happening
in DC right now or people like me just going
to sit out here in panic and wait.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
For the sky to fall.

Speaker 11 (56:40):
No.

Speaker 9 (56:40):
I had a meeting right before lunch on exactly that
and looking at some of the big issues that are
affecting that deficit. But you know, taking a hard look
at no one side, not the Republican side, not the
Democrats side, is going to have the answer. So it's
going to be a compromise. No one's going to be
happy with the solution. But the first step is to recognize,

(57:01):
as you say, we've got a deathicit problem. If you
look at the percentage of GDP, we're over one hundred
percent of GDP.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Now, no nation.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Thrives with that kind of skewed GDP to debt ration.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
It makes us weaker.

Speaker 9 (57:12):
And it's not just weaker in terms of our money
for education or for healthcare, but for the economy, for
reinvesting economy, and for our defense.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I mean, we need to be.

Speaker 9 (57:23):
Investing in infrastructure, and we can't just be borrowing it
and say we're gonna pay down the road. We need
to make those investments, but we have to all chip
in together to make sure that happens in a way
that we can afford it.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
Well, if you want me to come to one of
these meetings and do a whole presentation on the fall
of the Roman Empire because of hyperinflation because of overspending,
I'd be happy and just put me in coach ready,
I can do it. What are you looking forward to
tonight from the speakers. We've got Pete Boodhage Edge, We've
got Bill Clinton. Obviously Tim Wallas is going to accept
the nomination for Vice president tonight.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
What are you looking for outis to night speeches.

Speaker 9 (57:56):
Well, so I haven't gotten a chance to spend time
with Tim Walls yet. I wasn't in the house and
he was in the House office. I've never been in
the House, and I'm looking forward to seeing firsthand on
a real you know, national landscape on a big screen,
see what he's about.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Also, I mean bodhaj Edge.

Speaker 9 (58:14):
You know, one of the reasons I only got to
two percent when I was righting for president was he
came in and he is so adept at explaining complex issues,
especially economic issues, in a way that's you're at the
kitchen table accessible accessible, which you know Bill Clinton was
very app as well. And I can't wait to see
Buddha j Edge talking and then here Clinton talking. And

(58:34):
obviously Bill Clinton is not, you know, forty five years
old or five years old anymore.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
He's not going to be maybe quite as sharp as
he was.

Speaker 9 (58:41):
But I talked to Clinton a few months ago and
he was as sharp as attack, so i'd like to
I can't wait to see the two of them, see
how they frame in the moment.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Oh, that's a good way to look at it. Senator
John hickenloop I appreciate your time. I know you got
other stuff to do, but thank you so much for
stopping by today.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
And talking to my listeners.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
No, always a pleasure.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
All right, we'll be back. Oh no, we don't need
to break yet, do oh we do. We do need
a break. We'll be back right after this. I don't
know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
That was Senator Senator John Higgenlooper. We had the most
interesting conversation before the interview started on the air about
bipartisanship and about you know, trying to get people to
work together and stop viewing a compromise as a capitulation
and as a surrender. It was just and you know what,
Hopefully we'll be able to get him back on the

(59:27):
air to continue that conversation. He's actually talked about that
in interviews in the past. Now he's also said, but
if the Republicans are in the minority, I'm willing to
get rid of.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
The filibuster, so, you know, take all that with a
grain of salt.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
But it's an interesting concept that Obama kind of talked
about that last night.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Obama speech last.

Speaker 6 (59:45):
Night, in many ways, was kind of a defense of
classical liberalism.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Who is that?

Speaker 5 (59:55):
I don't know, I don't know who you're seeing here?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Longtimel and Keenan l Keenan.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Keenan, Keenan, he's Keenan and Kewley's Keenan Thompson, thank you,
and like he's half of Keenan gal he's half a
good burger.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Okay, So that's two celebrities we've got. I gotta write
this down. That's okay to track on celebrities. Let me
see Keenan thoms tonight. Mindy Kaling is m seeing the event?
Hang on, I gotta write this down. But we haven't
seen a lot of celebrities.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
But back to what I was saying, So last night
Obama speech was really a defensive classical liberalism in the
sense that he made the case we have to stop
demonizing other people, and he sort of was doing the
let's bring us all together.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
And I gotta tell you, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
I think that is a message that resonates with people
who are worn out from our nasty vitriolic politics.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
I mean, I get there a.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
Lot, right, I just get to the point where I'm like,
you cannot, you cannot continue to argue and fight and
carry on like we're doing and get anything constructive done.
And it was a very interesting kind of conversation, and
it reminded me of a that I saw George W.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Bush give after he left office. And George W. Bush
was very retrospect in that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Speech and was talking about how we have to do
something about the polarization in this country.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
We have to do something about, you know, the.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Anger that people feel. And I was talking to John
Hickinblooper about that before we came on. Hopefully we'll be
able to have a longer conversation about that in the future.
Now big news is breaking right now. I don't know
how big it's going to be, but it certainly is interesting.
ABC News is reporting that RFK Junior Robert F. Kennedy Junior,

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is planning to drop out of the presidential race by
the end of this week, and some sources say that
he is leaning towards endorsing former President Donald Trump, though
the sources caution the decision is not yet finalized and
could still change. One source added, Kennedy's hope is in
part to finalize things quickly in order to try and

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blunt momentum him from the DNC. Now, I find this
super interesting because the assumption that every RFK voter is
going to roll over to Donald Trump just is not accurate.
There are a lot of people that went to RFK
Junior because he wasn't Donald Trump and they just could
not see themselves voting Democrat. But I want to know

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from you guys on the Common Spirit health text line,
do you think this is a big deal or not
so big deal? Because last polling I saw, I think
I saw Kennedy at six or seven percent somewhere around
there in that vicinity.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
So it's not necessarily a huge number, but if you
get those voters in a tight election.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
It could have a huge impact. I don't know how
he was polling in swing states. I don't know any
of that stuff. But do you think it is going
to have the same effect? Five six six nine zero
is the text line? I'd love for you to know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
Somebody just sent this.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
You do realize there's not much difference between you and
Alex Jones. You know what I've had dumb ass thing
said about me. But that has to be the dumb
ass thingiest right there. I mean, Alex Jones is a
complete liar and just makes crap up and says horrible
things about people. And for you to even say that,
it either means you don't listen to this show or

(01:03:18):
you don't know anything about Alex Jones and you're just
trying to find someone to be like offensive.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Let's talk, tell Mandy that she's the devil whatever, it's
just a stupid thing to say.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
So if you're the Texter who sent that, that was
the dumbest text I've gotten, perhaps in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
But keep it up, Mandy. The Democrats create the anger
they do.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
They do, And I've always said Donald Trump is the
big middle finger in response to the kind of nastiness
in vitriol we were subjected to for eight years of
the Obama administration.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
I stand by that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
But at some point, whoever can control that, whoever can
rein it in, is going to win a lot of
voters who are not interested necessarily in continuing the dissent,
the arguing, who are worn out from the nastiness of politics.
All of those people that you know that used to
have conversations on Facebook about politics, but they don't weigh

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in anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
For some of them, it's because they got sick of
the nastiness and vitriol. They got sick of arguing with
people they care about. And if the Democrats start to
make that argument and can soften things, I don't know
if they can pull it off after the election.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
I really don't.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
As long as Chuck Schumer is leading things in the Senate,
I don't think you can say that he in any way,
shape or form, will lay off. I don't think that
people like Adam Schiff are going to lay off.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
I just don't.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
So it's interesting to hear that conversation. But will they
be able to pull it off?

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
I don't know. Lots of stuff for said before a
campaign that are not followed through with after a campaign tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
By the way, I just read this on a news
article Tonight's there are lots of speakers tonight who are
going to be talking about wait for it, border security.
They're gonna be talking about border security.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
You guys, what, Yeah, I thought so too.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
When we get back, we got a little short segment
then we're gonna break, then we're gonna talk.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
To Michael Bennett.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
So it's gonna be a speedy, like forty minutes from
here up until the bottom of the hour in the
next hour.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
So let's break now, we'll be right back. Keep it
on KOA.

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Connell keeping sad thing? Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third
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Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
We are live from the United Center at the Democratic
National Convention. Just saw Keenan Thompson and apparently John Legend
and somebody else who I are Alicia Keys. We're in
there practicing. So that's for celebrities and I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
Not gonna allow you, guys. One of the reasons I
was like, I can't wait to see what celebrities are here.

Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
I thought we were gonna be tripping over George Glutey
going to the bathroom.

Speaker 7 (01:06:16):
Anthony them lining up for these last two days though,
is noticeable. I mean it's I mean, it's the final
two days. These are the big hitters.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
I got to write down John Legend and it was
Alicia Keys right, that was the other one.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
You haven't seen those two though? Are those days that
the list? Have you seen with your own eye?

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
Okay, I'm putting a star by them. There we go, Okay,
there we have it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
Anyway, I want to get into this RFK thing for
just a second because Newsweek, if you just joined the
show right now, word on the street is is that
Robert F. Kennedy Junior is going to drop out this
Friday and then endorse Donald Trump. So Newsweek has done
a little digging into swing state polling to let us

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know how that affects certain things. And right now, Donald
Trump would perform better against Kamala Harris in the key
swing states of Michigan, Nevada, and North Carolina if these
races involved multiple candidates rather than simply the two front runners.
In Nevada and Carolina, the difference was big enough to flip.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
The states from blue to red.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
The inclusion of third party candidates did help Trump somewhat
in Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, but not enough to flip
any of these states by some margin. The most important
third party candidate is independent Robert F. Kennedy, who has
four point nine percent support according to the most recent
analysis of recent polls. And then they talk about other
third party candidates. But if Kennedy swings that four point

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nine percent, and I do not think it is a
given that all of Robert F. Kennedy juniors people will
move over to Trump. I think that some of them
will go to Kamala Harris for sure, and it's not
a done deal. But in a race where the margins
are so thin, this could be significant. But I don't
necessarily think it's going to be a game changer, if

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that makes sense. So that is new today, also new today.
I want to make sure we get this out. This
is kind of a story that you're going to hear more.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
About in the next few days. Because the oh no,
just clicked on the wrong button there.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
The Bureau of Labor Statistics was putting out a revision,
and the revision revised the job numbers down dramatically over
the last year. They essentially wiped out eight hundred and
eighteen thousand jobs in the job category from the Bureau

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of Labor and statistics. Now, revisions are very common. They
happen every quarter generally speaking, they get revised down just
a little bit, and that's a standard thing. This is
not like a crazy thing that never happens. What's crazy
about it is that the revision is large. It is
a large revision. It's almost million jobs. It's thirty percent

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of the jobs gained in the last year. So this
economic data is critical to the FED, and that is
what we're looking at right now. The Federal Reserve uses
these job numbers in determining the overall health of the economy,
which then determines whether or not they drop interest rates.
And seeing a revision down this significant.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Is a big deal.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
And so I'm trying and get somebody on to talk
about this specific revision in the next week probably, But
this is not good.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
News for the economy. And when the economy news is
not good, it is not good for the incumbents.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
And no matter how we're being told that Kamala Harris
is new and fresh and exciting, she is still part
of the current administration.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
So this could be a problem going forward.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
We will see how that is handled. In just a bit,
We're going to take a quick time out when we
get back. Super excited, Senator Michael Bennett is joining us
to talk about what he's expecting from tonight's speeches. We'll
do all that next. Keep it right here on KOA
joining us. Now, our second senator from the great state
of Colorado, Senator Michael Bennett, has stopped by, and Senator,

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are you speaking? I asked John Hickenloop or your cohort
if he was speaking, and he said, not this time.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Have you ever had the opportunity to speak?

Speaker 15 (01:10:16):
And I'm not speaking at this one either. I'm sure
they found better people, but well.

Speaker 6 (01:10:21):
They're not telling us, so I'm having to ask, and
then they're not giving us the scoop until very late
in the evening, same as the RNC, I might point out.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
So I want to ask you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
You were the first senator to say Joe Biden can't win.
How difficult was that for you and what went into
that decision to publicly say what we were all thinking.

Speaker 15 (01:10:41):
It was difficult. It's not easy to go out there
and on a limb like that. But my assessment was
that there was no way he was going to win.
My assessment was that the Democrats were going to lose
the election in a landslide, that we were going to
lose the Senate, that we were going to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Lose the House.

Speaker 15 (01:11:00):
And I feel really strongly about the direction of our country,
and I think all of us that care about it,
we might have different points of view about it and
what direction it should go, but I believe this is
a moral question, you know, an important moral question about
what the future of our country looks like. And so

(01:11:20):
I had said in a private meeting that I believed
that the president was going to lose, and it leaked
and and CNN invited me to come on, and they said,
you know, we would say what you said in private,
and I said, of course I will, because I wasn't,
you know, trying to keep it a secret. I thought
it was important to say. And I mostly met the

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test of my three daughters, which is, you know, their
view of the world is if you see something that's true,
you ought to say what's true, even if it's hard.
And the first day I felt, you know, it was rough,
and after that I felt like I'd satisfied their test.

Speaker 6 (01:11:58):
Well, it certainly sent us no barreling down the hill.
I mean, did you expect that? I mean, because I'm
sure you were trying to depose or dethrone the sitting president.
But I mean, did you imagine that a few weeks
later we would be talking about Canada Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I didn't know what was going to happen. What I
was asking for at that moment was for.

Speaker 15 (01:12:21):
President Biden to evaluate the question, because he was the
one to make the decision.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Nobody else could make the decision. And when we had.

Speaker 15 (01:12:28):
Meetings as we did, you know, with the Senate Democratic
Caucus and the President's folks, and I got up to speak,
one of the things I said to them was, we're
asking the president to do something no other president has
ever done. We are asking you his guys to have
a conversation with him that nobody will ever No one

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in our in this room is ever going to have
the kind of conversation we're asking you to have with him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
That's how serious this is.

Speaker 15 (01:12:55):
And I think, much to President Biden's credit, he sided
that the country. He was going to put the country's
interests ahead of his political ambitions and his interests.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
That's very rare.

Speaker 15 (01:13:08):
I mean, going back to Roman times, it's hard to
find elected leaders that have been willing to do with
Joe Biden than eydes of March is what you're talking
about Julius Caesar's end, And thank god that's not the case.
But it has been really interesting. If you ask, could

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I imagine we would be here, I guess I didn't
know what was going to happen. And I think what
has happened is there is a in this hall, in
the Democratic Convention, we have coalesced around this ticket where
there is no division, there is tremendous excitement. And what
I believe is that the American people broadly want to

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turn the page on this politics of division. I think
they want to turn the page on the Biden mist.
I think they want to turn the page even more
so on Donald Trump. I don't think they want Donald
Trump to come back. And I think that Augus very
well for Donald Trump being defeated in the fall and

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Democrats winning the presidency.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
I'm going to ask you a question about Vice President
Harris and her relationship to the Biden campaign. What's been
striking to me over the last few nights about speeches is,
in some ways it feels like the speeches have been
running against the current administration a little bit. I mean,
there's been a lot of talk about how people are

(01:14:38):
struggling right now, and these are all things that have
happened under the watch of the current president. Is that
is that a difficult sort of needle to thread? I mean,
how do you say I can make things better if
you're already part of the admission.

Speaker 15 (01:14:52):
I'm so glad you asked me that question, because when
I look at this, you hear a lot of talking
in you know, democratic circles about how to Ronald Trump
is a threat to our democracy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
And I actually believe that. I believe that is true.

Speaker 15 (01:15:05):
But I think he's I think of him much more
as a symptom of our problems than the cause of
our problems. I think the cause of our problems are
that if you look at the American economy today, the
bottom fifty percent of Americans have less wealth today than
they had when Ronald Reagan was president. The bottom fifty
percent of Americans own two percent of America's wealth, and

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the top ten percent of Americans own seventy five percent
of americans wealth. That's happened during democratic administrations and Republican administrations.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
It's happened over forty years.

Speaker 15 (01:15:41):
And you want to see a threat to democracy, it's
when people lose the sense of economic opportunity for themselves
and for their families. Think about I mean this, and
this is not a Bolshevik statement about.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Now you're going to say it a different b word
right there. I was like, Wow, no, it's crazy, I will.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Say, but I feel that way. I do feel that
way about.

Speaker 15 (01:16:01):
It, because when you lose a sense of award mobility,
when you lose a sense of opportunity, when the economy
grows and the only folks that benefit are the wealthiest people,
which is what's been happening for the last forty years
in America.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
That is when you lose a.

Speaker 15 (01:16:20):
Democracy because somebody shows up and says, I alone can
fix it. You don't need a democracy, you know, you
should put a strong man in office and expect the
world to be corrupt and bankrupt. And if you don't,
you're kind of a sucker. That's not the way I
see the world. I want us to build a capitalist
economy again in America that when it grows, it grows
for everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Where.

Speaker 15 (01:16:41):
The greatest invention besides democracy this country has ever been
responsible for, I mean modern democracy. Besides that is our
middle class and our middle class has been shattered. So
that's not something that happened during the Biden administration. That's
something that is happened since Ronald Reagan began his trickle

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down experiment. That has happened since the nineteen eighties when
we decided to outsource everything to Southeast Asia, to China.
That has happened since we made higher education impossible for
people to afford. It's happened since kids graduating with a
high school diploma no longer could go and earn a

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living wage and could only earn the minimum wage in
our economy. It's happened since families could not afford childcare
so they can stay at work. And it happens when
you've got a healthcare system that's costing our country twice
as much as any other industrialized country in the world,
and yet we alone are paying the highest prices in

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the world for drugs. We alone have no ready access
to mental health care. We have a mental health epidemic
in Colorado right now among young people in rural Colorado
and urban Colorado. We do not have a heal health
care system that can help parents find help for their kids.
So I'm not saying nothing, I'm saying, is saying that

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Kamala Harris is the solution to all that, or that
the Democratic Party is the solution to all that. I
think actually the test is for our generation. The question
is are we willing to be the first generation of
Americans to leave less opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Not more to our kids than our grandkids.

Speaker 15 (01:18:24):
That's the test in front of America right now, whether
you are a Democrat or a Republican or an unaffiliated voter.
And my view is there is no way Donald Trump
is going to help us answer that question positive.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
And I'm not a Trump fan, but I am a
Trump voter. I'm just letting you know. But the reason
is is that and.

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
You talked about our differences in how to solve Maybe
that was Hickloubert that said, let's talk about differences and
solving the problem. A lot of the things that you
just laid out. I absolutely agree with that these are
horrible problems. But when I look at it, I wonder
how the government regulatory structure that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
Has been sort of.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
Abused and you used by larger corporations in order to
create higher barriers to entry for other people, those kind
of things. So, as a member of the Senate, what
can you do to sort of create a more free
and open economy to allow those people to flourish at
whatever life.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
It's a very fair question.

Speaker 15 (01:19:16):
First of all, I think that you know, there is
no country in the world that's better situated than.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
The US on energy.

Speaker 15 (01:19:24):
It's one of the great and what we should also
nowithstanding that litany of stuff I just said, we are
still the richest country in the world by far, and
we have unbelievable energy resources, both in terms of fossil
fuels and non fossil fuels. Nobody who's better positioned than
we to transition to the to the to the carbon

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free economy that we have that we have to get
to if we can figure out how to get out of.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Our own way.

Speaker 15 (01:19:51):
And part of that is the regulatory question that you're
talking about. Another example I'll give you. Look, I used
to be a school superintendent, as you know, so this
issue of of mental health for our kids is a
big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
For me and Susan and I have raised three daughters.

Speaker 15 (01:20:05):
In this social media environment, we have allowed those guys,
Mark Zuckerberg and the rest of these guys to basically
strip mine our kids privacy. The strip mine our kids data,
this strip mine our economic interest just because they can
and just because they're big nobody. There has been no
pushback from anybody in Washington.

Speaker 11 (01:20:27):
D C.

Speaker 15 (01:20:27):
And my view is we should put we need to
have a negotiation with those guys. Just like Teddy Roosevelt,
who by the way, was a Republican as you know,
just like Teddy Roosevelt said, we should set up an
agency to regulate these guys that are drilling in places
where we didn't necessarily want them to drill. We need
to have somebody in Washington, and I think it should

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be a new agency that's taking on the economic concentration
that these social media and big tech and now AI
companies represent.

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
The other one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
They're just going to dominate our media.

Speaker 15 (01:21:01):
They're going to dominate our politics, They're going to dominate
our our civil discourse in ways that that's the stuff
we should be worried about in terms of the future
of our democracy.

Speaker 6 (01:21:11):
I don't disagree that that is a problem. I do
disagree that we need a new agency for anything.

Speaker 15 (01:21:16):
That's no more agencies, Nora, I'll trade you pick some
you don't want anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
The irs you can have that. Let's get rid of
the irs.

Speaker 15 (01:21:24):
Some that have outlived their usefulness. I don't agree without one,
but pick some that have outlived their usefulness, because God knows,
once you create something there it never goes away. But
the reality is, if you think Congress is going to
be able to regulate these guys effectively, they don't even
understand that the technology, much less the speed at which

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it's changing. It'd be like asking Congress to regulate our far,
you know, to approve drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
In the United States. We have no idea how to
do that either.

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
Senator Michael Bennett, I know you have another appointment. I
really appreciate you stopping batch talking.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Appreciate me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Nice to see you, to see you as well. I
hope we'll do this again.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
That's on the radio. I'm just letting you know. You
said that on the radio.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
People heard you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
There you go, thank you. Secrets see that, Senator Michael Bennett.
We'll be back right after that. And now people are
starting to mill about.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
A little bit out of Governor Jared pouls He's speaking
tonight earlier in the program, then later, So what am
I looking?

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Oh, we got to give away the Bronco.

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the Starter and we're really looking forward to hearing that. Anyway,
a couple of things on the blog I want to
just get to very very quickly, kind of silly stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
As a matter of fact, yell, Senator Elizabeth Warren is
about fifteen feet away railing against big companies and corporations and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
All that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:24:16):
So there's a gaggle of people around her. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Quite the gaggle.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
Yeah, there is quite the gaggle. It's amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:24:22):
Who becomes a political superstar by saying the most ridiculous stuff. Anyway,
A couple of stories on the blogs today that I
want to point out.

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
One of them, did you know a rod?

Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
After the unsuccessful launch of breakdancing as an Olympic sport.
Denver is about to host a huge breakdancing contest right
in our own city, and I just want to know
do they bring in Reagun as a celebrity. Do they
bring her in to kick things off? Or do they
pretend like what she did at the Olympics never happen.

Speaker 7 (01:24:53):
Both like they maybe bring her in but also still
kind of pretend what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Can I for a moment.

Speaker 7 (01:25:01):
Mike Barber, one of my Barber's creative minds up in
Frederick shout Out, is a big time breakdancer. He breaks dances,
He teaches teaches kids how to break dance. He loves breakdancing.
In a recent haircut, I asked him about what he
thought about that, and he kind of was a little
abrasive to to talking about it, because I think there's
a minor level of embarrassment there that that kind.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Of being the black mark frustration.

Speaker 7 (01:25:25):
It is a bit frustrating. He immediately said, there's there,
you know, there's a lot more to it. It's it's
a lot. There's it's a lot more detail, which I
think is nothing we didn't know, but it's kind of
a sour grapes because I think that's gonna be something
that's going to be a big hindrance for that. I'll
call it sport because I think it is to to
develop because that's now attached to it for who knows how.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
And it was not.

Speaker 6 (01:25:48):
It was never in the LA Games to start with.
Like the LA Games are like, we're not committing to.

Speaker 7 (01:25:52):
You, lame after l mind I know I'm saying, mind you,
Like the LA Games areind of breaking.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Yeah, they're not gonna have it, but but ultimately her
ridiculous performance put the nail in the coffin of that
it is and it's kind of you.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
If it's somebody it's something that you're passionate about, you've
got to be super frustrated the way that one day.

Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
And my barber is and I think he's probably a
bit too old anyway, but I think he was seriously considering,
like trying to maybe qualify for that and then be
in that. So it's disappointing. I mean, because breakdancing is
so cool and it's such an art and there's so
many talented dancers that compete, and and and and that
black mark of a performance is just is just it's
it's it's really unfortunate for that to overshadow how cool

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the sport really is.

Speaker 6 (01:26:34):
I watch more of it than I care to admit,
and I will just say this, like the United States
we are the outliers when it comes to skill level
in breakdancing. Most are like we're up here, and most
other countries are like half as good. I think I
believe based on what I said r in.

Speaker 7 (01:26:52):
The Olympics that for the US actually is not too uncommon,
but that that gap is it's huge than remotely close.

Speaker 6 (01:26:59):
I mean, there was there were some Japanese breakers, there
were some other Asian breakdancers that were really good, but
there was such a drop.

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
Off after the Americans. It was just like what are
we doing here?

Speaker 7 (01:27:13):
Like the rest of the world has to catch up,
and it's unfortunate. And I'll compare it to because obviously
I don't know if it's officially I can't remember. If
flag football is going to be officially in the twenty
I can't remember. But a lot of the people who
are trying out and are part of the USA flag
football team because now people are wanting, oh, with all
these NFL players, when it becomes an Olympic sport like

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all the NFL players are gonna play it in it right,
and the players who were on the Olympic team are like, oh,
hold on, we are here trying to make a name
for ourselves and we are part of this team. Now
forget the players. They are in the NFL so totally
apparently like they're saying a totally different game. It's the
same thing for these break dancers, where they're saying, like
we have we're working on our butts off, and people
like that are putting in those performances like Ray Gunn

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are now at the forefront. Everyone's just giving the attention
to that. It's just super unfortunate it is.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
I've got some more news on the blog today that
I want to talk about.

Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
If you guys missed the whole kerfuffle around the end
of Biker Jim's Hot Dogs.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
I love Biker Jim's Hot Dogs. I only ate there once.

Speaker 6 (01:28:13):
And when I heard that he was walking away from
the restaurant of his own name because of a bad
business deal with a partner who did not follow through,
and I've essentially ripped a bunch of people off, apparently,
I was like, dang man, I only had one Biker
Jim hot Dog.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
Well good news.

Speaker 6 (01:28:27):
If you're familiar with the dairy block that is down
by course Field, it's where Blancher family wins is. It
has all kinds of cool little restaurants and stuff, and
now it has one more cool restaurant. Bikers and Bakers
is the new project by Biker Jim. He's still going
to have really really his amazing hot dogs, Alipino jetter sausage,
wild boar sausage and all that, but he's dabbling and baking.

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He'll even have a breakfast menu on the weekends that
includes lemon ricotta pancakes, mochi pancakes, and sour cream waffles.

Speaker 5 (01:29:00):
I am down for.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
More great hot dogs. Are we gonna get a hot
dog while we're here in Chicago? What is your take
on the Chicago Dog?

Speaker 7 (01:29:06):
Do you know what that is?

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
All the things?

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
Okay, the Chicago Dog has a poppy seed covered button. Okay,
it's got the hot dog.

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
Then it's got sport peppers, those long skinny peppers that
come in a jar with vinegar sport peppers. It also
has a slice of tomato, which I never get on there.
And then it has nuclear green pickle relish on it.
It has to be the nuclear green pickle relish like
that looks almost like like the stuff that goes in your.

Speaker 7 (01:29:31):
Radiator expansive cuisine self over the last few years. Yeah,
give it a try, would have me give that, absolutely,
give that a try. But is it gonna be better
and take over our need? And already having a reservation
to a steakhouse tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Well we get out a little snackdoodle before we go
to the steakhouse.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Snackdoodle, A little snackdoodle.

Speaker 5 (01:29:50):
Keep us tight, just no snackdoodle, little doodle to put
us right, and just a little tiny little something to say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Chicago dog is pretty huge, do it a kind of
small normal size there? Normal?

Speaker 6 (01:30:00):
But they have stuff on here, you know what I mean?
Or they're they're their normal sized hot dog. But so okay,
so we're gonna have to find a Chicago dog. We've
really done a great job hitting the high points of
Chicago food.

Speaker 7 (01:30:11):
I mean, I'll give you props. You're three for three
on mail so far. I mean, we've done the pizza
not deep dish the.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
Better in Midwestern that we both a Rod and I
both prefer.

Speaker 7 (01:30:21):
The beef sandwich with the Italian Lean. So we did
over the over the required and then I'm missing one.
The day before that was was the barbecue. Yes here
in Chicago. Cargo Food in a small sample size, I'll
mind you, is probably some of the best food I've
had in the entire country.

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
I will say the restaurant seen here is extraordinary incredible.

Speaker 7 (01:30:42):
It's extraordinary incredible, and you can really just go just
about anywhere because we've gone kind of all over the
place and just everything we've tried at every restaurant has
just been divine.

Speaker 6 (01:30:51):
Yeah, Mandy, Uh text messages coming in, Mandy, I love
how you asked men It about deregulating and getting government
out of the way, and his answer is to bash
Facebook with more regulations on free speech through Facebook, which
of course means more regulations on free speech everywhere the
left tentacles can reach. I think the point he was
trying to make, and I actually agree with him on
this point, is that social media companies sprang up and

(01:31:14):
before people even realized what was going on, we all
of a sudden gave permission to just suck up every
single bit of online information about us that these social
media companies have grabbed and if you've seen The Social Dilemma,
which is an outstanding documentary, and if you have not
seen The Social Dilemma, all for the love of crap,

(01:31:34):
just watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
It is mind blowing. All of these social media companies
have basically dossier's on all of us. They have avatars
of who we are, what we.

Speaker 6 (01:31:43):
Like, who we shop for, the kind of things we
comment on, the kind of things we don't comment on.
It is staggering the amount of information that has been
gathered by social media companies. And it all happened before
we were even even aware that those possibilities existed. You know,
most of us who don't work in the tech world,
we have a rudimentary understanding, if the most right at

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the most, it is a rudimentary understanding of what these
tech companies.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
Are capable of.

Speaker 6 (01:32:11):
And I realize this when iHeartMedia launch the iHeartRadio app,
and we would have these meetings about the kind of
data that we then had the power to collect about you,
our listeners. Now, we are very careful with your information,
we like to keep it proprietary, but we still gather
a tremendous amount of data about you. As everything on

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your phone does everything on your phone is gathering information
about you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
I kind of have a problem with that, especially for kids.

Speaker 6 (01:32:42):
Right Like, as an adult in theory, you can make
a choice and decide whether or not you want to participate.
Most of us are like, yes, I don't read to
read the privacy bolly, Yes, it's fine, take.

Speaker 5 (01:32:51):
All my information.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
And it's very cavalier because we haven't yet seen the
weaponization of that information. But that possibility exist, whether it's
weaponized in a way where say you are trying to
start a new business or you are trying to run
for office. Who's to say that a techie won't go
in data mind your entire avatar. You're forty years old,

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and maybe you've had a Facebook account since you were thirteen,
all of that information. Can you imagine having every bad
choice and decision you've made since you were thirteen years
old dredged up and thrown in your face as an adult,
the possibility exists. Not to mention, I mean, when you
have to go through a security clearance, you have to

(01:33:35):
tell them every single aspect of your life that could
possibly make you ripe for blackmail or some kind of
compromise that could happen in the future. This is why
we know about Governor Tim Wallas's excuse. Yeah, Governor Tim
Walls's affair with the family Manny, we know it because
it came out in vetting.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Now I kind of look at that whole situation like this.

Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
His ex wife was here last night to support him,
so obviously their family has gotten through this, And as
far as I'm concerned, we've got to stop dredging up
ancient history to judge someone's character.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
Now, do I think it was a good idea?

Speaker 9 (01:34:18):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
Do I think it was a cumbaggie? Yeah? I do,
absolutely I do.

Speaker 6 (01:34:22):
But just like I have to overlook Donald Trump's many peccadillo's,
you have to say, Okay, that happened I don't know,
twenty years ago, and if his ex wife can get
beyond it, I think maybe the rest of us have
to just look at whether or not he's gonna be
good at governing.

Speaker 8 (01:34:38):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:34:38):
I happen to think his policies are terrible. I think
his policies in Minnesota have been terrible. So I have
lots of stuff to look at other than that. Mandy
Love The Show haven't been on social media ever, and
Happy I haven't joined any of them you text are
almost like a unicorn, and you're like a yetti.

Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
You're like Bigfoot.

Speaker 6 (01:34:56):
Although I say that jokingly because I know a shocking
number of people who have just said no, I'm not
doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
And I'll be frank.

Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
If I did not have to have social media for
my job, I probably would not have social media at all.
It's a time suck. It's draining. I used to go
to Facebook to keep up with people, and now all
I see is ads about crap I don't want to see,
and people I don't know that they want me to follow.
It's a complete wasted enterprise. Except Twitter or x x's

(01:35:24):
magic X is awesome. I love it, and every day
it's the first thing almost that I go look for
because I follow enough people in the news that it
is my breaking news source.

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
Now it is the place I go.

Speaker 6 (01:35:37):
I'd rather go to Twitter than go to a network
when something is happening and news is breaking. That is
the God's honest truth because you get the unfiltered version
of what's going on. Yeah, it's filtered, but you can
go through and see what enough people are saying to
sort of ferret out where the truth actually lies. Because
generally speaking, The truth is somewhere between what's being told

(01:35:58):
to you and what we're seeing everywhere. You have to
use a little what's the word that I'm looking at?

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Critical thinking skills? Yes, indeed, critical thinking skills.

Speaker 6 (01:36:08):
Mandy, You realize how much the Denver food scene sucks
when you travel to other places.

Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
I've talked about this in the past.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
When I moved here to Denver eleven years ago, everybody
was talking about what a great food scene was.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
I did not see it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
In the last eleven years, there have been some really
bright spots that have emerged in the food scene. I
do think that we are in danger of destroying our
food scene, and I mean that. I mean that genuinely.
I think that we with the higher minimum wage that
is in effect in Denver, you have are some of
our top and premier chefs that are saying, look, it's

(01:36:44):
just not worth it to open a restaurant in Denver anymore.
So we got to figure that out because we will
destroy our fledgling food scene. Rob Dawson in the United Center,
where are you right now?

Speaker 16 (01:36:55):
Rob?

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
I can't see you. I told you. Liz Warren was
right in front of us.

Speaker 17 (01:36:58):
Yeah, right off to the side.

Speaker 18 (01:37:00):
Of you, but you can't see me yet, because just
in the last half hour, have you noticed the rush
of people? I mean, yeah, I saw Elizabeth Warren off
at the corner. Josha Piro just made.

Speaker 8 (01:37:11):
His way through there.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
I just saw him.

Speaker 8 (01:37:13):
Twenty people.

Speaker 17 (01:37:16):
And all of a sudden, there's been a breath of energy, you.

Speaker 18 (01:37:18):
Know, another TV geekery moment. Van Jones NN was around
here too. He could not get to the concourse without
being mod for pictures.

Speaker 6 (01:37:29):
And you know what's funny is he's turned into kind
of not a critic of the Democratic Party, but a
critic of some of the tactics that have been embraced
by the Democratic Party. It's been kind of interesting to
watch him sort of be the fly in the ointment
a little bit as some of the grandiose conversations on
CNN have occurred.

Speaker 17 (01:37:49):
Right, So, I was trying to track where some of
these people are going. They're going under the endo. This
concert club we.

Speaker 18 (01:37:56):
Thought Polist go through about twenty five minutes ago. Thing too,
I'm wondering if all the speakers for that's what.

Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
I think, ready, I think that's it. I think that
they're going in there. Maybe they're going to have a
little run through. Maybe they're just going to have a
conversation to make sure that everybody's speeches are on message.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
But that's what it looked like.

Speaker 6 (01:38:17):
To me is people are arriving and they're going in
to see what they need to see to speak tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:38:23):
And also one other thing, talk with a delegate. Why
should it state going to wear a cowboy hats with
lights on them? Uh so that's going to be something.
And Colorado doesn't seem to have unified unicorns.

Speaker 6 (01:38:35):
That's the one thing I will tell you that the
RNC Texas was the only delegation that that coordinated their outfits,
and they coordinated every day and had dances. So we
got to talk to talk to Shad Morab next time
you talked to them and say, Shad, you're letting us down.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
We need some kind of dance and we need some
kind of outfit.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
Did the Wisconsinates even.

Speaker 5 (01:38:56):
Have Yeah, the Wisconsinights had the cheese heads on last night.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Yeah, so when in.

Speaker 18 (01:39:02):
Both conventions they had the cheese heads, that's that's interesting
there they agree.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
Well, I mean, and you know what, the cheesehead hat,
you can take it off, flip it over, and you
can sit three beers in it, so you can actually
get three beers at the concession stand, not that they're
serving beer here. Uh, and then and then take them
back to your seat. That's the beauty of the cheesehead.

Speaker 17 (01:39:23):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 18 (01:39:24):
I'm trying to say if there's anybody else there before
we go. I don't see anybody famous. Yeah, there's a
ton of media people here, but you know who gets
the last that stuff is some of the cable TV
with the pictures.

Speaker 17 (01:39:34):
People can't can't get enough of these people?

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Are they stopping Fox News? Just asking?

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Uh?

Speaker 18 (01:39:42):
Fox is not as visible in this one.

Speaker 17 (01:39:44):
I did pass POXS News Radio though.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
And I used to work there.

Speaker 18 (01:39:46):
They're very nice to meself.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
Yeah, yep, there you go. Oh, Mandy, I don't think
Walls had the affair, wasn't it?

Speaker 16 (01:39:53):
M Hoff?

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
You are so correct? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
I just disparaged Tim Walls unnecessarily. It was Doug m Hoff,
the potential first gentleman that had an affair with a nanny.
Oh my gosh, so sorry, thank you for clarifying that.
For me, Texters, that was just a dumb, dumb mistake. Sorry, Rob.
I had to correct myself because I.

Speaker 5 (01:40:11):
Got that totally wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:40:12):
Okay, yeah, yeah, all right, Rob, Well, you got to
get your work done because late night karaoke is in
your future.

Speaker 18 (01:40:19):
I know I have to get it done the way
I have to move. And good thing, Paul is that
we think is speaking early in the program.

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
This is this is the big time, Rob. This is
when you make that bread.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
We believe in you.

Speaker 6 (01:40:31):
We'll explain that a little bit later, all right, Rob Dawsin,
We'll see it in a bit all right, all right,
got Mandy, go to Jim's original Maxwell Street polish and
hot Dogs. It's near the United Center. They just celebrated
eighty years. Won't get any ketchup there, and it's a
walk up fantastic hot dog.

Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
We're gonna go there for our little snackdoodle because our
show is almost over. In fact, it is over.

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
You're gonna want to stay tuned to ka WA Sports next.
They are going to be having a big conversation about
the quarterback of the future that was named today by
Sean Payton.

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
More about the Nicks. More about the Knicks coming up next.
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