09-04-24 FULL SHOW - The Aurora Gang Story is Exploding, And Gabe Evans Pops In

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
Accident and injury Lawyers.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell, Andy Conall, koam ninem god wa.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Want to say NY three, Bendyconnell, Keith sad Thing, Welcome Buffa,
Welcome to a Wednesday feels like Thursday edition of the show.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
It has been a short week, but we have made
the most of it. Now I have so much stuff
on the blog today. I am Mandy Connall, joined of
course by my right hand man. He is Anthony Rodriguez.
You may call him a rod. Let's jump right into
the blog because we've got a bunch of stuff. We've
got guests coming up today. It's gonna be a busy,
busy broadcast day. So head on over to mandy'sblog dot com.

(00:55):
That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says
nine to twenty excuse me, look for the headline that
says nine to four twenty four blog The Auric Gang
story is exploding and Gabe Evans pops in. Click on
that and here are the headlines you will find within
tick Tech two.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
I think going with some miss in office half of
American all with ships and clipments of say that's going
to press flinch.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Today on the blog what is actually happening in Aurora
right now? Scrolling Gabe Evans wants to represent the eighth
Congressional District. Let's talk about the real estate market for
a hot minute. You'll have fourteen ballot initiatives to consider
this year. Even more in Denver and the end result
of Mommy wine culture. We're a feminist against Tamas. Are

(01:41):
Republicans secretly hoping Trump loses courage in the face of absurdity.
No green energy subsidies don't work. No melatonin doesn't work either.
Gen Z loves botox and they need to stop curious
about the redo of Casabanita. The top ten places to retire,
Yoga and butter Flies a nightly routine that can change

(02:02):
your life. Men share the hard parts of dating. What
it's like scrolling social media. In twenty twenty four, It's
time for the Manning gas production number. Those are the
headlines on the blog at Mandy's blog dot com. Now,
looking at how thinn the blog is, you might be thinking, Mandy,
you really took the day off here. But no, when

(02:23):
you see the deep dive that I did looking at
all of the different media coverage of the situation in Aurora,
whatever that is. I mean that whatever that is, because
depending on what news media outlet you consume, you would
think that either there's absolutely nothing to see, we don't
have any gang issues, no crime in Aurora, don't look

(02:46):
over there, or if you consume different news media, you
would find out that, yeah, the police have been actively
involved with this gang for a long time. Or you
would find out that Mayor Mike Johnson says, oh, that's
an Aurora on Denver, and you would find out that
Mayor Mike Compton says, yeah, we've got a problem, but
it's isolated. I mean it's it's all over the place.
You like me to present you with horses mouth, yes, please?

(03:07):
Or a Mayor Mike Kaufman was on with CMN this
morning and this is what he said.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Well, Mayor, all of these questions are really stemming from
that viral video that show what looked like Venezuelan gangs
breaking into an apartment complex.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Can you provide some clarification on that. Have a rest
been made?

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Is this part of that TDA gang or do we
know any other information about how many are involved in
any of these situations.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
You know, there there certainly have been a rest of
TDA gang members, so that's that's a big concern. And
so you know, again I hope to resolve this really soon.
I've got you know, the interntief of police saying that
it's not an issue, and I've got the property owners
saying saying that it is. And so I hope to

(03:51):
be have a meeting with the residents from.

Speaker 8 (03:55):
Both apartment buildings.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
This week as well as a meeting with representatives of
the property owners this week, so we to bring this
to a conclusion, you know, whether or not it's it's
gang related or not. The fact is that there's obviously criminality.

Speaker 8 (04:12):
There and it needs to be stopped.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
But you know, are the are the owners doing all
that they can in terms of securing their buildings and
so I so there's a lot of questions, and I
wish I had the answers this morning, but I don't,
so at least.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Mayor Mike Kaufman. I think Mayor Mike Kaufman is being
the most honest. I mean, Daniel Dorinsky was put into
a position and I want to defend her for just
a second here. Daniel Dorinsky started sounding the alarm, only
to be told by everyone else in Aurora everywhere else,
Oh no, that's not an issue. You're just making this up, didn't.

(04:48):
Governor Jared Paula said, it's a quote sigment of her imagination.
At the same time, she has constituents coming to her
talking about the dangerous situations at these various apartment complex.
Says she actually helped move three different families out of
these apartments, and the whole time she's being told sit down,
shut up, let the grown.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Ups handle this, and no one was doing anything. Wait,
so they're pulling a Donald You are faked.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes, they essentially tried to fake news Danielle Drensky, and
the reality was she was sounding the alarm and all
they had to do to get her to stop sounding
the alarm was say, Danielle, here's what we know so far,
here's what we're doing right now, here's how we're addressing
this problem. But we don't want to blow it up
into something that makes it seem even bigger like it

(05:34):
is consumed Aurora. Instead, they tried to shut her down,
tell her she was crazy, tell her she didn't know
what's going on, tell her her constituents were lying to her.
I mean, that's the ultimate end result. So she sounded
the alarm, and the alarm is now a three alarm fire.
And I'm I think that people that live in these
apartment complexes are around them are probably happy. It's finally

(05:56):
getting the attention it deserves. So you have to look
at all, and I mean all of the coverage that
has come out, because let me pull up the headlines
really quickly. I have like seven different stories embedded, and
I want to be able to cross reference because they
are They're fascinating the way that our different news media

(06:18):
outlets are handling this particular situation. I want to start
with the Denver Zette because they are doing extremely complete reporting,
using things like pulling police logs and getting nine to
one one reports and things of that nature. And I
want to share just part of this. Newly released details

(06:38):
compiled from police written arrest affidavits, hinted of a twisted
tail involving to Venezuelan brothers who allegedly intimidated other immigrants
with guns and threats. Witnesses said they bragged that they
owned an apartment complex in North Aurora and funded their
gang by stealing from Walmart stores. But just before dawn
on July twenty eighth, Janardi J. Pacheco Tiranos twenty two

(07:02):
and his older brother, Janardi Dejezos Pacheco Chiranas, twenty four.
We're part of a group of several men who terrorized
residents of the Aspen Grove apartments at Nome Street with
automatic weapons. It was a drunken night turned violent, according
to a July thirtieth rest a warrant, and the brothers
are now in ice custody. Now that is that everything

(07:24):
that they said there happened, because they're using arrest affidavits
to sort of determine what's going on with these two brothers. Now,
this all happened at the Nome Street apartment complex that
has already been shut down. And I want to come
back to that later because we have a significant issue
with affordable housing in this area and governments are coming

(07:44):
in and they are condemning these properties. And don't get
me wrong, I also embedded on the blog today the
citizen reporting done by a guy named Tyler Olivera. He
went to these apartment complexes and asked people the questions. Now,
a lot of the residents were like, no, no, there's
no gangs. No gangs. No, no, no, no gangs.

Speaker 9 (08:04):
No.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I don't know. But some people were like, yeah, for
my own security, I don't want to talk about this.
And if you watch the video, it is easy to
infer from the behavior of the people in the complex
that they are not going to put themselves in the
line of fire because when Tyler Olivera, or the police
or everybody else leaves, they've got to live there.

Speaker 9 (08:24):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
There was a press conference yesterday that was called by
a bunch of residents in one of these apartment complexes,
and they were rightly calling out the owners of these
apartment complexes for being slum lords, which is not in doubt.
I mean, all you have to do is look at
the pictures. There's garbage piled up outside, there's garbage inside.
They have a mice, a mouse infestation, they've got a

(08:46):
bedbug infestation. These apartments are not habitable by any standard
for human beings. So we do have a slow looard situation.
But what we have is a slum lords situation meeting
Venezuelan gangs. How do I know this? Because we know
this because the let's see the I'm trying to figure

(09:09):
out which one is the one that talked about The
owners of the apartment complex sent a letter two not
just Attorney General Phil Wiser, but also to the mayor saying, look,
we have lost control of these apartment complexes. We've lost
control and we need help. And now that might be

(09:29):
just pr but here's the thing. What if they're not lying,
what if there's slum lords. Let's concede to that fact
they're slum lords. And at the same time they are
doing even less because these gangs have taken over and
their staff essentially refused to come to work anymore. We're done,
We're not working anymore. So it's we've we've got this

(09:50):
convergence of things happening and in Aurora. Now, somebody just
pointed out on the Common Spirit Health text line you
can always text us at five sixty six nine, and
they said, Mandy, it's widely happening in Denver. The fact
that Mayor Johnston is not addressing it is a bigger crime. Oh,
Mayor Johnston is basically like, hey, everything's fine in Denver
as long as you don't look at the homeless hotels.

(10:10):
Forget about the trouble Tree or the meth Western. Everything's fine,
everything's fine, We're doing everything right. I mean, it's absurd.
You did you just come up with the last nick name? No,
I did not. The meth Western has been around for
a while. Oh man, the Trouble Tree in the meth Western.
Are there ever been better nicknames for that? I mean,
there's another hotel, but I don't think it has I
don't know if it hasn't a nickname yet. Somebody will

(10:31):
let me know if it does. Hey, Mandy says this Texter.
Last night Fox thirty one had the residence of one
of those apartment buildings. All they wanted was to have
the place cleaned up. They're probably just used to having
Venezuelan gangs around. The guy had a Venezuelan shirt on. Now,
it is my understanding, and I have not verified this myself,
so this could be wrong. It is my understanding that

(10:51):
that press conference was organized by a group that is
funded by government. City of Aurora, City of Denver behalf
of immigrants. So they came out to say, because here's
the problem, you guys. You have forty thousand Venezuelan's living
in the metro area at this point, right I mean

(11:13):
twenty thousand. They say half of them left. So twenty
thousand New Venezuelan immigrants living here in the metro A
vast majority of them are not criminals. They're not part
of a gang. They're not here to rob people and steel.
They're here because genuinely they want a better life. Now
what percentage of the twenty thousand is are members of
a gang? I don't know. I have no idea, but

(11:33):
I have to believe it's not a vast majority. So
you're trying to balance not turning people against people who
came here for a better life, who are trying to
live here, work here, do the right thing. They want
to raise their families here. You don't want to cast
them in the same light as these gang members, right,
I mean, it's not fair. It's really not fair. Now

(11:53):
I could argue about their methodology of coming to the
United States walking across the southern border. I mean, we
could talk about that for a while, can I I'm
to have a sidewinder just for a second, you guys.
I have a friend whose husband is Irish. They have
been married for twenty three years. She lived in Ireland
for many years now. They've been moved back to the

(12:15):
United States. He is trying to get the final paperwork
to be a naturalized part of the United States of
America because he's been married to an American woman for
twenty three years and he now has to do another
immigration interview and he has to do it in the UK.
That's how absurd our immigration system is. I mean, it's

(12:38):
just insane what he is and the money that they've spent.
So it doesn't shock me or surprise me that someone
would try to take the cheater's way out and just
walk across the southern border and be welcome with open arms.
But the reality is not all of these people are
bad people, but the reality is also that some of
them are some of them are very bad people. So

(12:59):
now we're in this situation where Aurora is getting a
massive black eye, even though I believe and if you
live in Aurora, you can comment on the text line
about your current situation. But we all know, first of all,
Aura is ginormous, right, It's a huge land mass, massive
land mass, So it stands to reason that Aurora is
still the same as it's been for a long time.

(13:20):
When people ask me about Aurora, this is what I say,
in Aurora. You can drive down a street and you
can see beautiful neighborhood on the right, beautiful neighborhood on
the left, and then you drive a half a mile
and you're literally in the slums.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
I used to live in a part of Aurora. You
literally would not go far like oh this is nice. Yeah,
and then real quick, oh oh wow, this.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Is what we talk about. Oh yeah, I mean, Aurora
is is really a tale of two cities. And you
can have parts of Aurora that are just gorgeous and
wonderful and they have good restaurants and you're like, yes,
let's go, and then you go into other parts where
you're pretty sure you're gonna be shot. So Aurora already
has these issues. And Mayor Mike Kaufman, to his credit,

(14:02):
by the way, Mayor Mike Kaufman, has no power in
Aurora none. He is a figurehead. The real power comes
from the city manager, John Batchelor, who he's the one
in charge of the police department. He's the one in
charge of public safety. And I haven't seen him anywhere now.
I understand he's off this week or some I don't know,

(14:25):
but he's been nowhere and he's the one with all
the power. He's the one that makes all the money.
So Mayor Mike Kaufman is out there basically doing PR.
He's doing powerless PR. He's trying to save whatever reputation
that Aurora has been slowly but surely building back up.
I think under the current leadership of the current city Council,

(14:45):
their aggressive approach to homelessness that is about WorkFirst and
housing secred I mean, there are some really great stories
to tell in Aurora right now. This apartment complex situation
is not one of them. I would have lost something
up to you guys, and as a libertarian, I am
loath to have government insert itself into an account of

(15:05):
private industry. But hear me out. So Aurora already condemned
one of these apartment complexes on Nome Street. But instead
of now you've kicked all these people out at a
time where we don't have enough affordable housing, right, we
don't have enough housing units. So instead, here's my plan.
If I were running things in Aurora, I would simply
say to the slan lords, you have four weeks to

(15:26):
clean up everything. Four weeks to clean up everything. We'll
give you the security that you need during the day,
but you have four weeks to clean it all up.
If it's not cleaned up and you're free of code
violations and everything else, then we are going to seize
your building, but we're not kicking anybody out. We're going
to then contract a company to come in and clean
up all the code violations, and then we are going

(15:48):
to contract a company to manage the property for the
next year, and then in a year, we are going
to sell that apartment complex to a company that will
run it. Probably will shoot for lowally owned, so we
don't have any distance saw lords, and we're going to
fix this problem instead of just condemning it. So they
make their money back from all of the repairs and

(16:09):
everything they've done by selling the complex in a year
to someone else. But you've solved the problem and let
people stay in their homes. Oh, Jason Bachelor, not John,
thank you for that. Thank you for the correction. Texter Mandy,
it's inhumane to invite these people here by not protecting
the southern border, only to have them live in these conditions.

(16:31):
I agree wholeheartedly, but this is one of my personal
concerns based on personal experience. When you bring in people
from essentially what has become a third world country. They
bring their third world country habits with them. I mean,
just like things like and I'm not talking about Venezuelan's
because Venezuela was a developed economy for a very long time.

(16:52):
But when you're talking about some places in Ecuador and
Guatemala and these developing nations where they don't have plumbing
that can handle toilet paper and things of that nature,
they bring all of those habits with them, and I
find that very concerning, very concerning. So it's like the
slum lords are no longer collecting rents. The gang is

(17:15):
collecting rents now. They lost control of their revenue stream.
I don't Here's the thing. I don't care. If I
am in an apartment complex and all of a sudden
people stop paying rent because they said they were paying
to gang members, the first thing I would do is
fly here from wherever I was, and I would go
meet with the police force and say I need help
cleaning up this complex. But the reality is is they've

(17:37):
been slum lords for a long time. The city of
a War has had an ongoing issue with this particular
company for a long time.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
If the gangs are taking over and if they are
taking people's rent, I wonder if they're asking, like for
less Well, to encourage give it to us for less Well.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
The people who live in these complexes say they're not,
they're paying rent to the management company. But again, and
I think that the people living in these complexes are
scared and they have to live there at night when
all the cameras leave, and they're in a situation where
they don't feel like they have other good options. So
I don't know how real that is, but I guess
the slow lords are flying in and they're meeting with

(18:16):
mayor and others tomorrow to sort of sort this out.
And if I'm the slow lords, this is what I do.
I say, take the building, take it, just take it,
take away their spie. I don't want to deal with
it anymore because the building probably isn't worth that much
at this point because it's been so badly damaged. So
I don't know when we get back. I want to
read some of your text messages. If you live in Aurora,

(18:38):
and I mean any part of Aurora, tell me your
story on the text line. Do you still feel safe
walking around your neighborhood? Are you still going to the
same restaurants. Can you still shop in the same areas
or are you still comfortable living in your home? Because again,
Aurora is massive, and I don't think this is a widespread,
massive problem. I think it's an extremely significant an issue

(19:00):
in a very small part of Aurora. We'll be back
right after this our chief meteorologist from Fox thirty one,
Dave Fraser. Dave Fraser, how are you today? I'm good.

Speaker 10 (19:11):
How you doing, Mandy, I'm doing well.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I heard a little rumor that we're going to get
some fall tomorrow, Like sweater weather is right around the corner.

Speaker 11 (19:21):
It's a brief duck around the corner, and then we'll
take another corner and go back to that Warman drive.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah day, nice a little turn.

Speaker 11 (19:28):
Yeah a Rod wasn't happy with Meaty there.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
So we count on you to fix the weather the
way we like it, Dave, not just the way you're
predicting we need it. Was like, so, what are we
looking at nice day tomorrow and then back up for
the weekend. Is it going to be that fast?

Speaker 11 (19:42):
It won't be that fast. So today we're getting a
seasonal correction. Last couple of days we've been in the
hot nineties, it was ninety three on Sunday and ninety
three on Labor Day, ninety four yesterday. So today we're
going to be around season, which is eighty four, and
then tomorrow we'll be in the load of mid seventy rushing. Yeah,
and so we've got two coal fronts coming in. One

(20:03):
is actually coming in right now. You'll look outside, you'll
see the building clouds. We should start to get into
showers and thunderstorms here pretty quickly, which will take us
into the evening. They will be scattered, and some of
that could linger past midnight into early Thursday before kind
of drizzling showers wrap up with some late day sunshine.
But you'll feel the refreshing change tomorrow. And then the
other quarter that we'll turn is to head back to

(20:24):
the upper eighties to near ninety degrees, but it'll take
several days to inch back in that direction, so lower eighties,
mid eighties uper ratings, and then maybe close to ninety
degrees early next week. And once we get past tonight
and tomorrow morning's chance for rain. Unfortunately, the forecast does
look dry, although that's what we expect in September, one
of the best months of the year.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, so any anything on a ten day, two week
outlook that's positive orre we just going to stick around
with this kind of weather through September, you know. I, as.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
Always before I get on here with you, I do
the six to ten day, which is just a little
beyond our normal seven days that we discab on TV.
I do the eighth to fourteen day. I do the
one month, the three months. I look at all of it,
and everything as it has all summer long, continues to
show above normal temperatures and below normal precipitation. And while

(21:14):
we talked about this in the past, that never tells
you anything about the day to day weather, that pattern
has certainly proved out. We ended up with the second
warmest June an average July for temperatures, fifth warmest August,
and second warmest.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
Summer on record for Denver, only behind the.

Speaker 11 (21:30):
Hottest summer, which was twenty twelve.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Now to be clear, and I actually sent you a
text about this the other day. On record is since
eighteen seventy two, and it's first reading to me that
we don't clarify that because on record sounds like well,
the beginning of record keeping went back thousands of years
and when you consider how cyclical weather is in ten

(21:53):
thousand year and one hundred thousand year, you know, spans
to say on record, I think it gives an impression
that people this is like of all time, and that's
not at all what we're talking about.

Speaker 11 (22:08):
Yeah, it's a tough sell, right because of exactly what
you said, the cyclical nature of thousands and thousands of years.
The only thing we could compare it to is that
record of history, and it is a short one, but.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
It's the only thing we have to compare.

Speaker 11 (22:22):
And in Denver it's a little frustrating because I get
this from viewers all the time. Denver's weather records have
been kept in four different places. Twice downtown, then it's
Stapleton for the longest time, and then I think it
was in nineteen ninety one it transitioned over to DA
the airport, which is obviously removed from downtown. So there's
always this speculation if we're breaking a record that was

(22:44):
set at the airport, or we break in a record
that was set downtown. Of course you have to look
at what year it was set in. But it's the
only body that we have to be able to compare.
The other thing is technology. Think about mercury thermometers back
in the eighteen hundred versus today's. You know, digital means,
and there's rounding of temperatures, you know, So when you
look at hourly observations, you'll see ninety six point two,

(23:08):
ninety six point four, ninety six point eight. And then
you do all the averaging for your monthly averages, taking
all the highs and the lows, adding them together, dividing
out by the number of days in a month to
come up with an average, to be able to compare
month to month to month over a series of years.
So listen, It is not a perfect science, but it
does give you a little bit of an understanding. To say,
Denver's average is eighty four today and I tell you

(23:30):
it's going to be ninety four. I think you can
make the comparison.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
That's a hot day.

Speaker 11 (23:34):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
And I think in Denver, moving that weather station from
downtown to the airport it is significant, maybe more significant
here because the airport's on the planes, right, I mean,
it's it's a completely different weather area in a lot
of ways. And I do think that those changes are
probably more jarring than they would be if we move

(23:56):
from a similar climate to another similar climate at different place.
I mean, do you find that to be true?

Speaker 11 (24:03):
Yeah, I would agree with you on that one hundred percent.
As a matter of fact, on the National Weather Service website,
if you look for under their climate tape, you'll find
a snow comparison and what it will do is it
will show you contours of total snow over averages for
where the records were kept. And you can see the
snow totals are a little higher when they were downtown

(24:23):
and a little less as you move out towards the airport.
And that has to do with exactly what you said,
the topography. It's not a huge difference.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
We're not talking feet of difference between where the.

Speaker 11 (24:32):
Sites were originally recorded versus the airport, which is, you know,
nineteen miles away. But you can see those subtle differences,
and it has to do with the sloping of the topography.
The closer you get to the footals in the mountains,
obviously the totals are deeper the more you move out
into the planes that are a little bit lower. So,
you know, no surprising to see that it is not
a perfect, as I said, a perfect opportunity to compare,

(24:53):
but it is the only comparison we have.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Well, on that note, I sent you an email. Did
you get Craigs the email that I afforded to you.

Speaker 11 (25:00):
I did, and it's top the list of craigcent he
pulled from both weather dot Com and Craig's up in
longmant Craig for thanks for sending in the question. He
pulled Wikipedia averages for Denver, and he also went to
weather dot com for averages for Denver. So I pulled
up the list that he sent.

Speaker 10 (25:18):
He pulled it.

Speaker 11 (25:19):
The problem is anybody can edit Wikipedia, as you know.
So I went in and I looked just for comparison
to see. And what I can't figure out is if
the numbers Craig included in his spreadsheet for June, July,
and August he was looking at the summer of twenty
twenty four was from a site possibly in downtown Denver,
versus the quote unquote at the airport. So I'll give

(25:42):
you it for instance, So on the first of August
he reported Denver hit one hundred and one. On the
second of August his report shows one hundred. Well, the
airport reported ninety nine on the first and one hundred
and one on the second and then he had ninety six.
They had ninety six, and then he had ninety nine.
They had one hundred and two. So the numbers don't jive.
The averages are going to be very different.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Well, I think the lesson is still everything from Wikipedia
should be looked at with a skeptical eye.

Speaker 11 (26:08):
Absolutely, yeah, absolute, and if you want, if you want official,
Despite everything we just talked about, the only record keeping
we have that is considered official based on the National
Weather Service, who is the record keeping organization for weather
across the country, is that site out at the airport,
and the official record can be found on their website,
and that's where.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I would go to get the official numbers to the
Texter you just sent, No, Mandy, the planes are on
the airport, haha, sir or madam haha. Ralph asked the
question that I was going to ask you because I
heard a little news story about this. Are we currently
in La Nina or El Nino or neither? And what
can we expect for winter? In that respect, we are

(26:47):
in La.

Speaker 11 (26:47):
Nina kind of heading towards the neutral and the outlook
for winter. I don't know that there's been a conclusion
yet whether we'll slip back to Lamina. We will determine
that in the coming month to what impacted they have
it does have. Lamina and El Nina do have different
impacts to east versus west across Colorado, and who benefits
and who doesn't. We should be able to work that out.

(27:09):
Those are numbers that come out all the time. As
matter of fact, when I look at the climate data
for the outlooks that I was just telling you about
six to ten, the eight to fourteen, the three months,
all of that is based on where we are when
it comes to those types of patterns for El Nino Lamina.
So for right now, you know the next November persistent.

(27:29):
You know they're looking at Lamina to emerge in September,
and so we may be leaning more towards La Nina
from September through November. We'll have to wait and see
if that changes a little bit for the latter part
of winter, which made the December, January and februe. Don't
discount March in April for us here in Denver, Personelo
and for.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
That person who's in there cargoing. But what's the difference
between La Nina and El Nino.

Speaker 11 (27:54):
It's the difference in the temperatures of the Pacific waters
La Nina colder, warmer, and it changes the jet streams
flow across the Pacific, and that's the storm track that
comes into the United States, the the continuous United States
from west to east. So depending on what the ocean
waters are doing, the jet stream will kind of fluctuate

(28:16):
a little bit, and the movement of that jet can
change across Colorado and how it comes over the mountains
from more of a northwesternly flow or a southern track.
Those differences in the tracks across the state from north
to south highly influenced where storms will set up and
who will benefit from those different storm systems. So a
southern tract will benefit the front range, a northwestern tract

(28:36):
will benefit more. Northwestern Colorado will be a little drier,
and it also influences temperatures as well. So those things
are taken in, but they're like the long range outlook.
It's not a day to day. We stable the day
to day. We get into the nitty gritty, we get
into the details. We're looking for the hard numbers. Then
when it starts, when it ends, how much you're shoveling
all of that kind of stuff, and you.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Can find out all that nitty gritty every single day
on Fox thirty one. They're great meteorology staff can keep
you up to date. And Dave Fraser, we appreciate you.
We'll talk to again next week.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
I have a great week and weekend.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
All right, that is Dave Fraser. We will be right
back from you. Aurora rights. What do you call people Aurorans?
That doesn't sound good, Aurorans or a What do we
call the people of Aurora? I ran closest. I don't know.
That doesn't sound good though. That's not a good sounding name, Aroon.

(29:29):
Nothing else sounds good Aurorans, Aurora anyway. A lot of
you weigh in, A lot of you weigh in. And
this one says Mandy. I'm fifty years old and I've
lived in Aurora my entire life. Other than four years
in Fort Collins, I've steadily moved southeast over time to
the nicer areas of Aurora to get my kids in

(29:49):
the Cherry Creek School district. I know exactly the areas
of Aurora to avoid, in which ones are generally nice
and peaceful. My daughter and her friends wanted to go
see their high school football team play in Aurora Public
School team at the APS Stadium next to Hinckley High
School last Friday. Knowing that that is not a good area,
my wife and I said they could not go without us.
Unsurprisingly to me, multiple fights broke out in the stands

(30:12):
and in the parking lot shortly after halftime. Multiple police
and other emergency vehicles were dispatched to the area to
control the situation. My daughter and her friends were horrified,
but they will not doubt me again when I tell
them which areas are good or bad. Someone posted and
he sent a video. We can't. I can't get videos
on the text line. Guys, I can't get photos. I

(30:35):
can't get any of that stuff on the text line.
So oh wait, he said it via another text so
it's an Instagram. I'll look at that on the break, Mandy,
Are there Venezuelan gangs an Aurora or not? Of course,
conflicting reports, and that's really what we've been talking about
earlier on the show. It's like, can we just get
accurate reporting. The Denver Gazette seems to be the only

(30:56):
news outlet that can actually file an open records request
for things like police affidavits and arrest records. A lot
of other news media outlets my news are just talking
to people like Governor Jared Polis and he's like, no,
it's fine, and they're like, oh, okay, all right, there
you go. There you go. Hi, Mandy. I've been a

(31:19):
resident in Aurora since nineteen seventy seven, still live here.
Up until the year two thousand, Aurora was a great
city to raise a family, and crime has progressively gotten
much worse over the last twenty four years, but the
worst parts are in certain neighborhoods, particularly where the Venezuelan
gang apartments are. My wife and I and our three
little kids lived in the Nome Street apartments thirty one

(31:40):
years ago and it was a nice community then. Now.
I do still feel relatively safe in the majority of
the city elsewhere, minus random guns fired off and bad drivers. Mandy,
Aurora is dealing with big city problems, but not equipped
for it. Most of Aurora is fine, including my neighborhood.
By the way, the city, they can't just take a property.

(32:01):
It takes multiple trips to court with multiple fines, usually
reduced by judges to give a second chance before you
can contemplate condemning it so they could get control. The
biggest problem is all the players may be telling the truth,
which shows the complexity. And I think that's part of it,
is that I do think there's truth in all of this.
There are Venezuelan gangs, there are slumlords, there are all

(32:23):
of these issues. But in trying to solve the problem
without just condemning the building, because we already have a
shortage of affordable housing, and I think one of the
reasons that the residents are keeping things to themselves are
number one, they don't want to put themselves in the
line of fire, but number two, they're afraid they're going
to be thrown out on the street like the Nome
Street people were, and that they're not going to have

(32:44):
any place to live, and that a roof is better
than no roof.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
Right.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
So I'm looking, I'm trying to spitball here how to
solve this problem. And I am loath to say that
the government should ever be able to seize a property.
But if I'm may Or Kaufman and I am Jason
Batchelor and I meet with these slum lords tomorrow, I
handle a list of code violations and the fines that
go with it, and I say, you have one month
to solve all these problems and pay all of your

(33:11):
code violation fines, or you can just give us the property.
What do you want to do? Property can't be worth
much now at all, you know, make it hard enough
that you then seize the property. You then contract out
somebody to come in and fix everything that's wrong with it,
and then you hire a management company and then you
sell it in a year. You don't keep it. That

(33:34):
would be what I would recommend, but you know that's
just me. Mandy. I've been a resident in Aurora since
nineteen seventy so, oh wait a minute, hang on. I
lived in Aurora all my life. I carried mail and
Aurora for thirty years and delivered to all of those apartments.
They've been run down, low income places for as long
as I can remember. It hurts my heart to see
how far my city has fallen, and that my friends

(33:57):
is right there people who live and grow up in Aurora.
It's heartbreaking. I think for Mayor Mike Kaufman, it's heartbreaking.
I know that Mayor Mike Kaufman, I know that Daniel Drinsky,
I know that everyone on the city Council loves Aurora,
or they wouldn't be putting themselves out there trying to
fix the problems, but acting like there isn't a problem

(34:17):
when there obviously is one. It's just bad advice, really
bad advice, because now it's exploded into way more than
it needed to be.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
accident and injury lawyers.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
No, it's Mandy Connell Andyna Kamada say the nicety because.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Many Connell Keith is sad thing.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I am your host, Mandy Connell, joined of course by
Anthony Rodriguez. It now joined by Rep. Gabe Evans. He
is running in the eighth Congressional district against Representative Yadiro Caraveo,
and he would love to be your next member of Congress. Gabe,
welcome back to the show.

Speaker 10 (35:10):
First off, always great to be on with you, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Gabe and I were just talking before he came on.
And I tell candidates this all the time, that they
want to come on in like June July of an
election year. I go, No one's paying attention to you
until after Labor day. So here we are after Labor
Day and the track meet to election day is on.
I want people to know a little bit about you, Gabe,
because I think your story, your backstory is just a really,

(35:36):
really good one. So tell people who is Gabe Evans.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
Yeah, I mean my story starts with my grandparents on
my dad's side, career naval officer on my mom's side.
Actually an immigrant to the United States from Mexico, earned
his citizenship with two purple hearts in World War Two,
And so you know, I was born and raised in Colorado,
spent twelve years in the US Army, another ten years
in law enforcements, and then because of what's happened to

(36:03):
public safety in Colorado, I stepped away from law enforcement.
In twenty twenty two, ran for and won my state
House seat down at the state Capitol of Denver. Been
fighting down there for two years to try to just
restore some common sense. We know we have a crime problem,
we know we have an affordability problem. The fact, you know,
I'm married, My wife and I've been married for fifteen years.

Speaker 10 (36:23):
We got two boys.

Speaker 9 (36:24):
The fact that Colorado is the number two state in
the nation for teenagers overdosing and dying on fentanyl is
abhorrent to me. That's why I got involved in politics
after twenty two years in the military and law enforcement.
That's why I'm running for Congress now in the eighth
Congression district. We have got to fix these problems.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Well, let's talk specifically about some of those issues. Let's
start with crime. You know, we the last hour of
the show, I talked about this massive story out of Aurora,
and depending what news media outlet you listen to, there's
either a huge gang issue in Aurora or there's nothing.
I mean, it's the coverage of this story has been
really amazing to me to see the broad nature of

(37:03):
either dismissiveness or panic that is on display. But it's
a real problem in Congress. What do you do to
help with the problems that we're having here in Colorado
when it comes to crime.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
Again.

Speaker 9 (37:17):
So I was a cop in the Denver metro area
from twenty eleven to twenty twenty two.

Speaker 10 (37:22):
And what we know is there's three big driving factors
that are.

Speaker 8 (37:25):
Going on here.

Speaker 9 (37:25):
Number One, we've got a wide open southern border. We've
got transnational criminal organizations and cartels that are coming into
the United States. But then problem number two is what
the progressive left has done.

Speaker 10 (37:38):
Here in Colorado.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
They've literally defunded the police. They have voted for those policies.
They've lowered the penalties.

Speaker 10 (37:45):
For drug dealing, for breaking into cars, for everything that
you can think of.

Speaker 9 (37:50):
And so that's attracted these cartels, these transnational criminal organizations.
Out of the fifty states in the United States, they're
going to go to places like Colorado because the state,
the Progressive Democrats and the state have handcuffed law enforcement.
And then that leads to the third issue that we have,
which is that cops in Colorado would love to be

(38:11):
able to enforce the law, but they can't because of
the policies that the folks down at the state Capitol
and the folks the.

Speaker 10 (38:18):
Progressive Dems in Congress have passed.

Speaker 9 (38:20):
In Colorado, right now, it is illegal for a police
officer to pick up the phone and call Immigration and
Customs and say, hey, we got somebody in our communities
causing problems, who's here illegally.

Speaker 10 (38:31):
Come to port this individual. That phone call is illegal
to make.

Speaker 9 (38:35):
It became illegal in twenty nineteen, and my Democrat opponent
voted for that piece of legislation. We've got to secure
the border, we've got to empower our state and local
law enforcement, and we've got to get rid of these
defund the police, pro crime policies that the progressive left,
to include my opponent, has championed.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
You know, some in Congress have said, look, we're even
and I believe, and I don't want to put words
in her mouth, but I believe I've heard Lauren Voebert
support this notion which is defunding sanctuary cities, defunding sanctuary states.
Would that be something that you would support as a
threat in order to rescind these laws that you're talking

(39:13):
about right now, kind of force the hand of Colorado lawmakers,
because we've just seen that when threatened with something like
two ballot initiatives on property taxes, they can be brought
to heal just a little bit, right, Is that something
you would support?

Speaker 9 (39:29):
So I swore three oaths to uphold and defend the
United States Constitution, US Army, Colorado Army, and National Garden.

Speaker 10 (39:35):
As an our Battle police officer had.

Speaker 9 (39:37):
Deployed to combat zone for the better part of a
year to uphold and defend the US Constitution, which barely
clearly states that the US Constitution, and all federal laws
made in accordance thereof are the supreme law of the land.
So yeah, absolutely, when you have states like Colorado that
blatantly ignore what the federal government is doing when they're

(39:58):
trying to secure the border, and when we have folks
like immigration and Customs and the Border Patrol, and the
State of Colorado comes along and says, nah, we're not
going to even let our state and local.

Speaker 10 (40:07):
Law enforcement officers work with their federal counterparts.

Speaker 9 (40:11):
That's a major problem, and that's something that we need
to address at the congressional level as part of the
broader conversation about how do we secure the border, how
do we make sure folks like my grandfather, you know,
who earned his citizenship in World War Two with two
purple hearts, who wanted to be a part of the
American dream.

Speaker 10 (40:29):
How do we make sure that we keep the.

Speaker 9 (40:31):
Bad folks out and that we continue to be that
shining city on a hill for those folks who legally
want to come here be a part of the American dream.
And how do we make sure that those laws are
being enforced and respected by states?

Speaker 10 (40:44):
Colorado's not doing it.

Speaker 9 (40:45):
They're a plaitant sanctuary state, and that's a big part
of the problem.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
So let's shift gears just a little bit and talk
about cost of living. Because cost of living has some
national components to it, it also has some local components
to it in terms of you know, housing and things
of that nature. What do you see your role in
Congress as how do you rein in the cost of
living as a member of Congress.

Speaker 9 (41:10):
Yeah, so the first thing with the cost of living
is just understanding the broader impacts, you know, the things
that have an impact on our economy. I'm sure we'll
talk about this here in a minute, but we've brokened
a pretty historic agreement with the Libertarian Party here in Colorado,
and one of the things that they talk about a
lot is the fact that are literally our money supply, Right,

(41:31):
This is when we talk about inflation.

Speaker 10 (41:33):
That's the money supply.

Speaker 9 (41:34):
The money supply is controlled by things like the Federal Reserve,
and we don't have a good understanding at the congressional
level of how the Federal Reserve is doing some of
its internal business. We need to have policies like auditing
the Fed, but we also need to make sure that we're.

Speaker 10 (41:49):
Taking the handcuffs off of our economy. And so that's
things like here in the eighth Congressional District energy agriculture.

Speaker 9 (41:57):
The eighth Congressional District has the fourth highest energy producing
county in the nation.

Speaker 10 (42:03):
It has the eighth highest agricultural producing county in the
nation in the north. And then the southern part of
the district is.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
The commerce, the transportation, the road networks, the truckers that
are actually taking these raw materials, turning it into a
usable good and distributing across the rest of Colorado.

Speaker 10 (42:22):
It is a multi billion dollar driver for the region.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
But as we all know, when energy gets more expensive
because of the laps of war on American energy, when
agriculture gets more expensive because you know, and this isn't me,
this is some of the farmers in the region that
I've talked to that said that my Democrat opponent ass
to the single most damaging bill in a decade or

(42:45):
Colorado agriculture. Guess what that drives up the cost of agriculture.
All of these costs are passed on to consumers.

Speaker 10 (42:51):
So to get the cost of living under control, we.

Speaker 9 (42:54):
Also need to make sure that we're focused on things
like taking the handcuffs, the red tape of the bureaucracy
of our economy, producing American energy, producing American agriculture, and
then allowing our transportation networks to be able to actually
process and get that stuff to market. When you can
do that cheaper and more efficient by cutting red tape,

(43:15):
that drives costs down for Americans, that empowers our economy.
That's how we make Colorado in the eighth Congressional District
in an affordable place.

Speaker 10 (43:23):
Those are the things that I support. My opponent, as
we said, she's voted against all of those things. She's
a pro big government, pro red tape democrat, you know,
one of the.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Things that has not really come to the United States yet,
but I do worry about on a consistent basis when
it comes to agriculture. We've seen this attack in Europe
on nitrogen based fertilizers. We've seen farmers in certain parts
of Europe being told that they can only plant a
certain number of crops, which is so counterintuitive too, when
you have to feed people, To tell farmers that they

(43:54):
can't use the products that help food grow. How, I mean,
what do you think about that kind of stuff? Because
I think that's all part of the green New deal
as well.

Speaker 10 (44:06):
Yeah, absolutely, my opponent is one hundred percent bought into
the Green New Deal.

Speaker 9 (44:10):
She costs this district billions of dollars in the energy sector.
Energy and agriculture go hand in hand. When diesel goes up,
agriculture becomes more expensive and you pay more for that
at the store. So she's cost this district billions and energy,
and exactly what you described is what she's done to agriculture.
When you have government bureaucrats with no background in agriculture

(44:32):
who are then micromanaging how Armors and ranchers literally the
original stewards of the environment, because.

Speaker 10 (44:40):
If they don't take care of their soil, if they
don't take care of.

Speaker 9 (44:42):
The environment, if we don't have clean air and we
don't have clean water, guess what else, You can't grow
your crops as efficiently as if we did take care
of the environment.

Speaker 10 (44:51):
Farmers and ranchers are the original stewards of our land,
our water, our air.

Speaker 9 (44:58):
It's in their best economic interests to take good care
of those things, and that means we need to allow
them the flexibility to be able to make those decisions,
to be able to leverage emerging technologies, emerging trends, and
when you have folks that, as you said, are micromanaging
what they can and can't do, that has an incredibly
negative impact not just on the cost of producing these goods.

Speaker 10 (45:20):
But it has a negative impact on the economy.

Speaker 9 (45:23):
Excuse me, it has a negative impact on the economy,
but it has a negative impact on the environment as well.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
So it sounds to me, Gabe, and you know you
can correct me if I'm wrong. You sound very sort
of data and results driven. And if that's the case,
I have to ask you about ethanol subsidies because ethanol
subsidies have distorted a marketplace under the guise of giving
us better energy efficiency, of energy efficiency and things of
that nature that have not proven to be to work

(45:51):
out the way that they have worked out. But the
farm lobby is very strong and they don't want to
give up their ethanol subsidies. Where do you stand on that,
if you have an opinion at all.

Speaker 10 (46:02):
I like things that work.

Speaker 9 (46:03):
You know, when I was flying a Blackhawk helicopter overseas
in a combat zone, things get really really simple.

Speaker 10 (46:09):
If it works, do it. If it doesn't work, don't
do it. Because that's a really, really dumb reason.

Speaker 9 (46:15):
To crash and explode a helicopter because you tried something
that looked really good on paper but doesn't actually work
in reality. And so that's where I stand on all
of these you know, alternative forms of energy. If they work,
let's do it absolutely.

Speaker 10 (46:28):
But if they don't work, if you have to continue
to subsidize and subsidize and subsidize them, then that's not
actually producing energy efficiency, that's not actually taking good care
of our environment. I'll give you a precise example.

Speaker 9 (46:40):
Here in Colorado, we often hear about, you know, zero
emission electric cars.

Speaker 10 (46:46):
Well, this isn't my data, this is the State of
Colorado data.

Speaker 9 (46:50):
The electric grid in Colorado produces about fifty percent more
carbon per megawatt of produced energy than just pure natural gas.
So every time we're plugging something into the electrical grid
you're in Colorado. Again, not my data, this is state data.
Every time we plug something into the electrical grid in Colorado,
it's actually producing fifty percent more carbon.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
For a unit of energy producer than if we just
used natural gas.

Speaker 9 (47:15):
These are the conversations that we need to have to
ensure that we're actually producing energy that were energy independent.

Speaker 10 (47:21):
And when we do those things, that actually work.

Speaker 9 (47:25):
We can reduce our carbon footprint by having more natural
gas right here in Colorado.

Speaker 10 (47:30):
My opponent's opposed to it, she's voted against it.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
I support American energy because that actually lowers our carbon footprint.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Well, I'm speaking with Gabe Evans. He's running in the
eighth congressional district. And Gabe, not for nothing. If we
really truly and we are one of the world's largest,
if not the world's largest energy producer now, but if
we truly unleash our enemy our energy economy, it also
cuts the knees out of some of our geopolitical foes, right.
It cuts the knees out from under Russia, It cuts

(47:58):
the knees out from under Saudi Rape who is an ally,
but I don't trust him. I'm going to be perfectly honest.
And that's one of the things that we don't talk
about enough, is that if we truly really exploited all
of our energy options, we would be able to not
only power our own economy, but also create big problems
for Russia and for other bad actors around the world.

(48:21):
Who's their entire economy is their oil economy. I mean,
why don't we talk about that more?

Speaker 10 (48:29):
Oh, we need to talk about it more. And the
big one that we've left out so far is China.

Speaker 9 (48:33):
China is making more and more stuff with dirty coal
and with quite literally slave labor.

Speaker 10 (48:39):
So every time we're.

Speaker 9 (48:41):
Exporting jobs and energy production from the United States, it's
going to places like China.

Speaker 10 (48:46):
That are producing it again in an inhumane, environmentally catastrophic manner.
And so we need to talk about that. We need
to talk about how if we truly.

Speaker 9 (48:58):
Want to take care of the environment, we've got to
make sure that we're bringing jobs, that we're bringing production,
that we're bringing energy back to the United States. Because
here we produce it more efficiently than anywhere else in
the world, we produce it more humanely than anywhere else
in the world.

Speaker 10 (49:12):
And if we're truly.

Speaker 9 (49:13):
Concerned about global you know, the global carbon footprint, what
we need to do is make sure that we're not
sending things to China where they produce it with five
ten times the amount of carbon that we could do
it with here in the United States.

Speaker 10 (49:27):
And the absolute worst part about all of this is
that pollution blows right back here to Colorado.

Speaker 9 (49:34):
We've got satellites we can track where this stuff goes again.
State of Colorado data says that seventy percent of the
air pollution in Colorado doesn't actually originate in Colorado. So
when you have folks like my opponent that have blatantly
voted numerous times against the American energy economy, they're not

(49:55):
actually doing anything for the environment either.

Speaker 10 (49:57):
They're costing us jobs.

Speaker 9 (49:58):
But we're still reaping all of the pollution from places
that produce it less.

Speaker 10 (50:02):
Efficiency and less responsibly, because it again, it blows right
back here in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Your campaign, gab just got a really good shot in
the arm when the libertarian candidate in the eighth Congressional
district dropped out and has removed his name from the
ballot and endorsed. You tell me about how that all
came about.

Speaker 9 (50:24):
Well, it's what the American people want us to do.
The American people want good government. They want responsible adults
who can sit down, who can have a conversation, who
can find and collaborate on the common ground.

Speaker 10 (50:37):
And then actually move things forward.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
You know, that's what I tell everybody. I've buried entirely
too many friends in military and law enforcement. I've sworn
three oaths up to and including my life, so I
know those things that I will never compromise on because
I literally put my life on the line and I
buried friends who made the ultimate sacrifices stand for those things.
I know those things I'll never compromise when I can
collaborate with anybody, And that's what the Libertarian Party and

(51:04):
I did.

Speaker 10 (51:04):
We sat down.

Speaker 9 (51:05):
Of course, there was the original pledge a couple of
months ago. There were some things that we couldn't agree on,
but we sat down, we have the conversation. We realized, look,
we agree on about ninety percent of the stuff. So
we drafted a pledge two point zero that we could
both agree on, and that really does highlight those things
that we care about, small limited government, making sure that

(51:27):
we respect individual liberty, making sure that we're focused here
on the United States critical things like securing our borders,
and so.

Speaker 10 (51:36):
By sitting down, by having that conversation.

Speaker 9 (51:38):
Once again, what we've shown is that you know, I'm
willing to work with anybody that's focused.

Speaker 10 (51:42):
On these issues.

Speaker 9 (51:43):
The Libertarians were fantastic partners in promoting our shared visions
and ideals for things like small government, individual liberty, accountability
for federal agencies like the Federal Reserve, and moving the
ball forward, and so it truly is a you know,
we talked about the phrase bipartisan all the time. This

(52:05):
is really something now where I'm tripartisan. I've worked with
the Libertarians, we've found that common ground. But as a
state legislator, you know, I'm in the Mike super minority
down at the state Capitol, nineteen Republicans to forty six
Democrats in the state House, and I still got almost
sixty percent of my bills passed because I'm able to
work across the aisle there. That's what I'm focused on.

(52:26):
How do we move the ball forward? How do we
make sure that we're passing on to future generations the
same American dream that my grandfather mia Ethel gave to
me when he immigrated here to this country.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
You know, I think you have to use the language
of today. You're polypolitical, that's what you are. You're not
you engage with all political parties there, Gabe, I do
want to ask you one question from our text line,
because I think it's a question that a lot of
people have and I bet you have a good answer
for it. Hey, Mandy, please ask Gabe, what are we're
going to start seeing commercials from him. I live in

(52:59):
the eighth district. I've not seen a single one, but
I see one from his opponent every five minutes, And
I want to use that as a springboard to ask
you about the challenges going on at the state party
and how that has affected your campaign in terms of
the support that you have gotten or not gotten from
the state campaign. It just kind of give me a

(53:20):
minute on that.

Speaker 10 (53:24):
Yeah, So really two things there.

Speaker 9 (53:25):
Number one, Conservatives, we are the fiscally responsible party. And
so as you yourself said kind of at the beginning,
you know, after Labor Day is when folks start tuning in,
and so I'm not going to waste my money on
a bunch of campaigns in advertising before Labor Day.

Speaker 10 (53:41):
So don't worry. The ads will be here as you.

Speaker 8 (53:44):
Know, real quick.

Speaker 9 (53:45):
We're in like single digit days now, So the advertising
for for the Gabe Evans campaign is going.

Speaker 10 (53:51):
To start your fast and furious.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
But the other part of this is.

Speaker 9 (53:56):
These things are expensive to be able to run a
good team. The ad is close to a million dollars
and so if anybody's listening to this wants to help
you keep me on the air again, we have enough
to get us on the air for quite a bit,
but if anybody wants to help keep us on the
air once we go on, elect Gaveevans dot com is
the website to elect g A v e e v

(54:17):
a ns dot com.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
You can go there learn more about me.

Speaker 9 (54:20):
There's a donate button there, and that's going to be
a really critical part of making sure that we get
our message out because folks are sick and tired of
the high prices, the high crime, the stentanyl crisis, the
border crisis that my Democrat opponent has voted lockstep with
the Biden Harris regime on.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Gave Evans is my guest, and when we talk about
the dumpster fire that is the state party right now,
I always say, find the candidates you like and give
them money. And if you like what gave Us had
to say today, take that money you might have donated
to the state party and put it directly into his
coffers so he can win the eighth congressional district. Gabe,
I think your race is in highly winnable. I think

(55:01):
you're the right candidate to win that race, and I
look forward to talking to you after the election, if
not before, to be able to congratulate you. On your victory.
So let's let's do the assumed clothes on that one
and and uh, we'll be in touch again before the election.
I can assure you.

Speaker 10 (55:18):
Always great to be on with you, Mandy, Thanks so much.

Speaker 11 (55:20):
All right.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
That is Gabe Evans, and I put a link on
my blog to his website, so if you'd like to donate,
and trust me, guys, these candidates are dealing with no
support from the state party as it tries to sort
itself out, so this is really important that you go
ahead and donate directly to these candidates. If you like

(55:43):
what you're hearing, we'll be right back, Mandy. I'm a
Democrat because we just interviewed Gave Evans from the eighth
congressional district race, and if you missed it, you can
always go to our mandysblog dot com page look for
latest posts and a Rod's going to put that podcast up.
If you live in the eighth congressional district, I'd love
you would share that podcast with people because I think
that is an incredibly winnable race and I actually think

(56:05):
Gave Evans is a fantastic candidate. I watched him for
the first time at the Weld County Women's rumbles that
they had, and he was debating Janet Joshi, who was
the carpetbagger from the Springs that was backed by Dave Williams.
And in that interview it became apparent to me very

(56:26):
quickly that Gabe had a really good handle on the
issues of the eighth Congressional District. And he wasn't just
saying things because he thought they would rile up the
crowd or be inflammatory. He's just very even keeled, has
a good head on his shoulders, shares a lot of
my same value systems. So I'm a big fan of
Gabe Evans. And yes, I know I misspelled Gabe on

(56:48):
the blog. I just didn't fix it yet. I put
Gabe and that that was an auto correct. So I
want to share this text message Mandy. I'm a Democrat,
but I actually don't care for Caraveo too much and
I'm considered voting for the guy. But I do have
a couple of questions. Hopefully maybe you can ask him
what is his stance on abortion too? How is he
going to come back Donald Trump if he's the party

(57:10):
of fiscal conservatism, Because Donald Trump led us to a
gigantic deficit. That is an absolutely fair criticism. First, on
the abortion issue, he has said he believes it is
a state issue to be decided at the state level.
He would be in favor personally of a ban on
abortion for everyone except in cases of rape, incest, and

(57:31):
the health of the mother. But he has essentially punted
and said it's a state issue. We know in Colorado
it is not going to be illegal. I don't know
if it ever will. I can't imagine the kind of
sea change it would have to happen here for abortion
to be limited in any way, shape or form in Colorado.
Because every time there's a ballot initiative, every time there

(57:53):
is an opportunity for Colorado's to weigh in at the
ballot or give their opinion through a vote, they have
shot down any of restrictions on abortion. Which is why
in Colorado it is legal to have an abortion up
to the day of birth. And for all of you
who are reaching for the text line to tell me
I'm wrong, it is not wrong. It happens here. And
there is a doctor in Boulder who specializes, I guess,

(58:16):
in late term abortions, and even on their website it
says mostly women do this because of a health issue.
Mostly got to pay attention to those qualifiers, so he
does not favor a federal abortion ban. I will say
that let's talk about the deficit buster for a second,
because the deficit buster is an accurate, absolutely accurate accusation

(58:37):
against Donald Trump. But it just pulled up some numbers
that I want to share and to give you some
perspective about why we have a thirty five thirty six
trillion dollar debt now because of deficit spending. And I
want to take you back to two thousand and nine.
Now we all know what happened to two thousand and eight.
The market absolutely crashed. We had a devastating great recession.
It was terrible, and the government's response was to print

(59:00):
a whole bunch of money and eventually set the table
for the inflation that we've had over the last couple
of years. Because inflation doesn't happen overnight. Although historically, and
this is accurate, I have looked it up and confirmed
that what I'm about to say is true every period
of and I don't ways say hyper inflation because we
didn't have hyperinflation. Hyper Inflation is when prices are going

(59:21):
up one hundred percent every day. We just had a
period of steep inflation. It is always preceded by a
flood of the money supply, and that's exactly what the
Federal Reserve did during COVID. They wanted the federal government
to be able to continue to spend like drunken monkeys,
which they did, and not have to pay the pipers.
So they dropped interest rates to darnaar zero and they

(59:44):
kept printing money so the federal government could spend it.
That was the whole thing. But let's go back to
two thousand and nine. Deficit spending in two thousand and
nine was one point four trillion dollars, twenty ten, one
point twenty nine trillion dollars, twenty eleven, one point three
trillion dollars, twenty twelve, one point oh seven seven trillion dollars.

(01:00:05):
And then in twenty thirteen we started to get interact
together a little bit, and we dropped down to just
six hundred and eighty billion dollars twenty fourteen, four eighty five,
and these are billions four forty two and twenty fifteen.
We're starting to make progress. Twenty sixteen, Donald Trump gets elected,
the deficit was five hundred and eighty five billion dollars

(01:00:27):
twenty seventeen up to six sixty five, twenty eighteen, up
to seven seventy nine, twenty nineteen, up to nine eighty four.
Now I felt somewhat vindicated in this because I was
the one that told everybody in this listening audience that
Donald Trump was not going to do anything about the deficit.
And people told me I was crazy. Donald Trump was
going to fix that too. He did not fix that too.

(01:00:49):
And that takes us to twenty twenty COVID COVID spending
three point one three to two trillion dollars in one
year in spending, and twenty twenty one was even not
even worse, but certainly not better, two point seven to
seven trillion dollars in deficit spending, twenty twenty two to

(01:01:10):
one point three in deficit spending. And if you remember,
there was, you know, a midterm and deficit spending in
twenty twenty three one point six trillion dollars. Both Donald
Trump and Joe Biden suck on the deficit. Suck. They're
a huge part of why we have these massive deficits.

(01:01:31):
But they're not the only ones. Everyone in Congress is
responsible for these deficits. And by the way, these deficits,
they're not made up money, they're our money. Deficits have
to be paid back in a few ways. Number One,
you can raise taxes, that's how you pay off the debt.
Or you can print more money, which causes inflation, which

(01:01:53):
is a tax on the American people as well. And
you can also cut spending, which obviously Washington has no
desire to do so. Trump exploded the deficit during COVID,
but the Biden administration has been very slow to bring
it down. No one is good and Kamala Harris is
out there running around talking about how she is going

(01:02:15):
to give up certain first time home buyers twenty five
thousand dollars, which is going to inflate the housing market
even more. She's talking about all these giveaway programs she's
trying to buy votes. She is an absolute disaster on
the debt and deficit, and Donald Trump is not much better.
The whole tariff thing that he's talking about is just

(01:02:37):
a dumb idea. It's pretty much failed every time it's try.
But yet here we are again trying to figure out
a way to bring back the manufacturing jobs to the
United States instead of trying to help people pivot to
the service spased economy that we have right now. I
would love to have more manufacturing jobs. I would love it.
I think it would be amazing because manufacturing jobs are

(01:02:58):
a ladder to the middle class for people. But the
reality is is I don't think they're coming back. It's
too expensive to produce things here. The regulatory structure, minimum wages,
things of that nature. It just makes it hard to
compete with China, which pays people nothing and doesn't worry
about environmental concerns. They don't care. So I'd love to

(01:03:23):
tell you that Donald Trump is going to be amazing
on the deficit. I don't think he will be. But
all that being said, I do know people that are
on Trump's economic advisory team, and they Steve Moore being
one of them. He's a major deficit hawk. So if
there's a chance that someone's going to get through to

(01:03:44):
either one of these candidates, the advisors around Kamala Harris
suck and the advisors around Donald Trump on the economy
are much better on these things. So if you're gonna
throw a dart board, you know, throw a dart against
the dart board and shooes, which one's going to be better.
You have to look at the whole picture. And there's nothing,
not one single thing in the Kamala Harris economic Plan

(01:04:07):
that says we're going to do anything about the deficit. Nothing.
So I don't trust either of them. I wish I
had better news. I wish I could forcefully make the
case that Donald Trump was going to be a deficit
hawk and do something about the debt, because guys, we're
headed for a debt crisis. We're headed for the kind
of crisis that makes us no longer the world's reserve currency.

(01:04:32):
We're headed for the crisis that ends our reign as
the world's leader when it comes to finances and economics.
And it's going to be very very ugly when it happens,
and it's only getting worse. And the American people don't
care because they're too stupid to know what it looks
like when all of this debt crisis actually happens, because

(01:04:52):
they've been so poorly educated about economics and the effects
that they think. Some of these young people think socialism
is the way to go. It's almost like they didn't
see all of the ways that socialism has failed. And
before anybody writes to me about the Nordic countries, if
you want to have a high services government like they
have in the Nordic countries, then get ready to open

(01:05:13):
your wallet, not rich people's wallets, because if you look
at the tax structure in those high service, high tax
Nordic countries, everybody pays. Everybody pays twenty percent of their income.
Everybody pays at least twenty percent of their income. Some
of the tax burdens are over fifty five percent. So
if you want to if you want to high services

(01:05:34):
like that, then you got to pay for it, because
there's not enough rich people in the world to pay
all of those taxes, all of those prices for all
of those people. Melatonin. No, I have no problem sleeping.
Oh okay, that's good. That's because you're young. I enjoy
it while you can. Okay, every morning when you wake
up well arrested, I want you to just say, you
know what, God, thank you for that. I know you're

(01:05:54):
going to strip it away from me as I get older,
but you know, thanks for that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Well, I have news and this is actually oh dag nabbit.
I didn't put the link on this story crap anyway,
I know what it says. So studies have shown that
melatonin is not a good answer for long term sleep
disorders because melatonin is has been used somewhat successfully if

(01:06:22):
you travel a lot and you need to reset your
circadian rhythms when you get back, or you get to
wherever you're going and you want to jump into their
times or jump back into your own time zone. But
there's been no long term studies that have shown that
it's been helpful for sleep issues in the long term.
I've known this for years because everybody's like, when I

(01:06:42):
say I don't sleep well, I'm actually sleeping better now.
The Soda Weight Lost plan not only helped me lose weight,
but it helped me understand that there are certain things
I cannot eat at night and go to sleep. It's
just not I got to eat early, which I started
with my vocal cord issues. I try to be done
eating by life. And then it taught me a lot

(01:07:03):
about what to eat to be able to sleep. So
now I'm sleeping better than I have in a really
long time. But I've tried melatonin, and it's not a
good answer for long term sleep disorders. But the article
which I will go back and find because it was
actually very interesting. Talked about the fact that a vast
majority of Americans we're not sleeping well. And then a
Rod sends me this video today on the show or

(01:07:27):
this morning rather about a nightly routine that can change
your life. And it's very simple things, and it's amazing
how many of us in our society we always look
for a pharmacological solution first, and the pharmacological solutions are

(01:07:47):
not perfect. Now on occasion, I have used ambient in
the past. Chuck was a long time ambient user until
it made him into a horrible person, horrible version of himself.
And I finally was like, you have to stop taking
this because you're becoming a horrible person. And he was

(01:08:08):
thankfully wise enough to recognize that I'm not just saying
that to be mean. But then I found out that's
very common with Zambian if you take it too long.
But then, how many of us are doing the things
on a daily basis? And if you've listened to the
show for a long time, I want you to hear
what I'm about to say in Michelle's Oehner's voice. How
many of us are doing the things that we need
to do every single day to be a happy, healthy human.

(01:08:31):
Are you getting exercise, are you going outside? Are you
spending time with friends and family? Are you feeding your
body nutritious foods? Are you setting yourself up for success?
For sleeping at night? If you're on your phone until
eleven o'clock and then you put your phone down and
you're like, oh, I can't sleep, well, you can't sleep
because you just had the entire world in your hand.

(01:08:52):
And Aaron had sent me this video, and I was like,
these five little things really would make a difference, just
from disc connecting from the phone early enough and reading
a book. I know some people say I don't really
like to read. Great even better, you'll only have to
read for a few minutes before you fall asleep. Set
your plan for tomorrow. I do this every night. I

(01:09:13):
look at my calendar for the next day, kind of
have my mental order of the way things are going
to go. And these little things just setting yourself up
for success. It's all about that. It's all about having
a great bed. Go to NMAX for that. I think
we solve that problem a long time ago. So when
we get back in the next hour at pray there's

(01:09:36):
coming on you, guys. The real estate market is very
interesting right now. We have a lot of buyers sitting
on the sidelines in what I call ready set mode,
ready set, ready set, ready set, and they're just waiting
for a rate drop, which I and I'm not usually like,
I'm certain about this. I feel very good based on

(01:09:59):
the labor number adjustment down. They took away a million
jobs roughly that they had said had been created, which
we're not so that. And inflation is it's manageable now.
It's like two point I don't know, two point seven
percent whatever, not the two percent that the Fed wants,
but it's much lower than it was a few years ago.
So I think we're gonna get a rate cut in

(01:10:20):
September and maybe another one in December. So we're gonna
talk to Ed Pratherer at two thirty about what to expect.
If you've been thinking about selling, you're ready to go.
We'll be talking about the best time to put that
home on the market when we get back. I want
to give a big shout out to Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah,
that Gwyneth Paltrow, And you're not gonna believe what for
I'm doing that. Next.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
Accident and injury lawyers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 8 (01:10:48):
And donall.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
On Klama, got Nicety stood fray by Connell.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Sad Babe. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of
the show. I'm your host, Mandy Connell. And that, of
course is a rod You can call him Anthony Rodriguez.
No airhorn for that, none, But it's a one time thing,
um dog double check it. Oh my god, you totally
want to bug people.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
No, I would absolutely, positively never do multiple air horns. Everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
There you go, there you go. So I want to
talk about Gwyneth Paltrow today because you guys know I
always talk about Hollywood. That's a lie. I don't always,
But Gwyneth Paltrow. Our friend Christian Toto at Hollywood intoto
dot com wrote a really good column called Gwyneth Paltrow

(01:11:49):
on hamas where are the Feminists Now? We got news
this past weekend that six hostages who had survived almost
a year in captivity. One one of them, heirsh Goldberg
poland his parents, just appeared at the Democratic National Convention.
He lost part of his arm in the initial attack

(01:12:12):
on October seventh, but had been seen fairly recently, I guess,
and they knew he was alive. Hammas, when they were
faced with the idf coming through the tunnel that they
were holding these people in, apparently brutally murdered them just
before Israel was able to rescue them in what is
absolutely yet another war crime committed by Hamas. Now, of course,

(01:12:34):
the world's reaction, including our idiot president Joe Biden, was well,
Israel's not dooming enough to get the hostages back, not hey,
what a war crime by Hamas, or hey, it's been
Hamas who's turned down all of the ceasefire deals that
had been offered, even the ones that Israel a great too.

Speaker 12 (01:12:53):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Gwyneth Paltrow went to Instagram and she posted the following.
She said, to the families of each hostage whose life
was stolen, I have thought of you every day for
eleven months, but today I send you my heart. There
are still seventeen women being held by Hamas. Where are
the feminists? She added the hashtag hashtag rape is not resistance.

(01:13:20):
The silence from Hollywood and the feminist community on this
has been deafening. The same women who ran around and
told us that we had to believe all women, no
matter how ridiculous their stories were. And I'm talking about
Christine GLASI Ford there on that one. We had to
believe all women. And boy howdy, they were ready to
support women who came out after Harvey Weinstein with a

(01:13:41):
like a pack of wild animals. Not to say he
didn't deserve it, but they were united in their condemnation
of that. And yet we know, we absolutely know, because
Harmas live streamed the rapes of women on October seventh.
We know that women were raped, and yet Hollywood has

(01:14:03):
been very, very very quiet. So I guess we're supposed
to be believe all women unless they're raped by organizations
that are anti Israel, in which case, go for it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:16):
Just go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Even the Babylon Bee Christian points out beautifully. Even the
Babylon Bee jumped on this by tweeting out a photo
of Bill Cosby wearing a Hamas headband, and it says
Bill Cosby joins Hamas so feminists will stop condemning him
for rape. He likes that when it's a little too

(01:14:39):
close to home. By the way, there are there are
women in Hollywood that have been sounding the alarm. Deborah
Messing who is Jewish, Galgado who is Israeli. They've been
out there screaming about this stuff for a very long time.
And it's a very good question. It's a good column.
It's very short. You can read it at the blog

(01:15:01):
or at Hollywood intoto dot com. But that's not the
only feminist story we got on the blog today. We
have a couple of things about feminism today on the blog,
and one of them, I guess that's not really about feminism.
But I will share this story very very quickly because

(01:15:23):
it's bothered me since I saw it a couple of
days ago, or yesterday maybe. The Douglas County Sheriff's office
over the Labor Day weekend, they were doing increased enforcement.
They were pulling over people for drunk driving, and they
shared the story of a woman. Friday afternoon, at three pm,
deputies responded to a call about a vehicle weaving erratically

(01:15:45):
before crashing. The driver reportedly attempted to leave the scene
by ramming the victim's car to push it out of
the way. Turns out that this driver was a forty
year old mom from Castle Pine, so you know how
we know she's a mom because her two children we're
in the back seat. And I'm not going to name

(01:16:06):
her here, although the Castle Rock Police Department did name her,
because I'm not trying to shame this woman. I'm trying
to make a bigger point, and it's an important point
that has been bothering me for a really, really long time.
At three pm on a Friday, this woman's preliminary breath
test showed a blood alcohol content of point three three

(01:16:29):
four in her car, a full bottle of wine, five
open alcoholic beverage containers, and two young children in the backseat.
This story is so horrifying to me, but in my mind,
this is the natural outcome of mommy wine culture in

(01:16:51):
the United States of America. And maybe wine's not your thing.
Maybe you're a bourbon gow, maybe you're a whiskey goal,
maybe you're a beer gal, or maybe you're a dad
who's driving around with your children in your back seat
while you're wasted. But I want to talk about women
right now, because women have now caught up to men

(01:17:11):
almost in the category of people dying from alcoholism related diseases,
and it's very frustrating for me. When I go to
a gift shop or I go to a women's section
because I'm trying to buy a gift for my friends,
and everything says it's wine o'clock sometime, or I drink

(01:17:32):
because of you. Yeah, Mommy drinks because of you. That
was one of my least favorite T shirts I've ever seen.
And don't get me wrong, I have, you know, lived
through a portion of my life where alcohol was a
big part of it. But when I decided to have
a child, I decided it was time to make different choices.
And luckily, I've never struggled with addiction of any kind.

(01:17:53):
I've never been in that situation, so I don't want
to downplay how challenging it is to get to overcome
an addiction. But the thing is, I know so many
women and men who have overcome their addictions that I
know it can be done. And I y'all, I said
a prayer last night for this woman. I don't know her,
I've never seen her before. I wouldn't know her if

(01:18:16):
she walked up and slapped me in the face. I
said a prayer last night that God would tell her
that this was her wake up call because her children
were in the back seat and she's driving them around
wasted at three o'clock in the afternoon on a Friday. Please,
like I, if you know her, please get her help

(01:18:39):
support her in her sobriety because she's going to die
and she may take somebody out with her. Right if
she's going to drive this drunk with her kids in
the car, she probably thought she was just buzzed. I'm
just a little buzzed. It's fine. People die at point
four blood alcohol content. She was at point three three
four with their kids in the car. Think about this stuff,

(01:19:03):
you guys. Your kids deserve you at your best. And
ask anyone who grew up the child of an alcoholic,
and they will let you know you are not at
your best. If you're suffering through that, there's so much
help out there. Just get it, accept it, and move
on with your life. We now know there is going
to be a butt load of ballot initiatives to consider

(01:19:25):
this year fourteen. And that's just for the state. We're
going to have about ten more in Denver alone. Now
I've already started working on my voter guide of I'm
doing it this year because there's so much stuff to
vote on, and I know that many of you don't
have the time to dig through this stuff on your own,
so it will definitely be a big voter guide that

(01:19:48):
should be out in the next couple of weeks because realistically,
you guys, ballots drop very very shortly beginning of October,
so we're a month away from ballots drop. This is
why I am concerned about the Harris Walls campaign being
able to stay out of the public eye long enough
to continue pulling the wall over the eyes of the

(01:20:11):
voters and really showing them what they're about. Interesting stuff
going on there. We'll see if that strategy actually works.
So that's on the blog today with a list of
kind of what you can look at if you want
to start investigating yourself. There's a column today, you guys,
I just am so sick of this because I'm pretty

(01:20:32):
sure that this exact same thing was said in twenty twenty,
the headline if Republicans want to win, they need Trump
to lose big to dominate the country once more. Republicans
need to hasten the move to a post Trump party. Well,
that didn't work in twenty twenty, did it. Don't get

(01:20:52):
me wrong, I'd be you guys. I don't need to
repeat how I feel. You know, I would love to
be able to vote for any other Republican candidate at
this point, but it's he's the candidate. So what am
I gonna do. I'm not sure he'd go away if
he lost again. I mean, granted, he's going to be
super old in four years, but I don't know if

(01:21:13):
that would stop him. So there's a whole column about
why it would be better for Republicans, and Trump lost
and lost handily. I guess that's supposed to encourage Republicans
to not vote or something. I honestly couldn't get through
the whole column, and I put it there just so
I wouldn't be the only one who saw it. So
there you go. If you are curious at all about

(01:21:35):
the this is kind of like a two minute drill
right now, with a little longer conversations than I normally do.
If you're curious about the Redo of Casabanita, are you
going to see this movie by Trey Stone and Matt Parker.
You're gonna go see it a rod because I think
I am the movie. Yeah, Casabanita, Mia Moore. It is
a movie about the Redo of Casabanita, and it's a

(01:21:58):
whole documentary and I'm playing at the Alamo Draft House
this weekend. I don't know if it's going to have
a long run or if it's just like this weekend,
but I want to see it. I think it's interesting
to me. If it's just this weekend, can't do that.
But well, you got what you How are you working
this weekend? What are you work? You're working everything every day,
every hour. Well that's.

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
Because you're anthety a little kbp I action this weekend
really all kinds of craziness.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Excellent, Yeah, excellent, indeed, So that is going to be
out very shortly, and trying to find out. I don't
know if it's an extended run or not. I'll find
out from the Alamo Draft House. You like the Alamo
Draft House? You ever been there?

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
I'm literally losing my mind between difference between the Alamo
Draft House and that's where they show, that's where the
people walk through with the food, right they bring you
home like during the entirety of the movie E.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Done, it's different before the movie starts, it reminds me
of this place in Orlando that during my lost decade
of my twenties, there was a and it's probably still there.
The Enzeon Theater in winter Park, small theater only had
two screens and they still allowed smoking. And this was like,
you know, in the early nineties, and my friends and
I all smoked at the time, so we would sit
in the back like the bad kids on the bus

(01:23:15):
and smoke and drink and eat food. It was glorious,
absolutely glorious. I like the Alamo Draft House. I think
they do a good job for what it is. My
problem is is their chairs are too comfortable, and if
I'm going to fall asleep watching a movie, It's going
to be in the comfort of my own home. Okay,
I'm not going to pay to go fall asleep in
You're a movie theater. I remember the food being pretty
dang good. The food was very good last time I

(01:23:37):
was there. I haven't been there in a while. We
just we never started going back to the movies after COVID.
You know, when the boys were young and now they're
in their early thirties. When the boys were young, the
movies were what we did as a family, right. We
went to the movies. We saw all the movies, and.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
We just haven't done that with Q We do the
movies pretty often. I would say, yeah, on average, maybe
once a month. There's just not a lot of movies
that I want to see. And that's all the superhero movies.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
All the time. We go see those we go see
and the superhero movies I enjoy. Except you know, Deadpool
wasn't for me. No, just not for me. Oh you
did see it. I saw the first twenty five minutes
of the first one and was like, yep, I'm not
in the demo for this. Oh yeah, and the third
one is the most and the most obnoxious. I'm not
I'm not, I'm not down. It's just not It's not

(01:24:28):
for me. So yeah, but but I you know, maybe
we should start going. But here's the thing, Like I
just watched the other day the News and daya movie,
uh Challengers, the tennis movie. Yeah, it was not good.
And I love Zundeia. I think she's very, very talented
and I really like her. I love hers, MJ and
Spider Man. This movie was just awful. You know, when

(01:24:54):
you when you can't like anybody in the movie because
all the characters are so unlikable, You're like, why why
don't have a movie about all of these unlikable characters.
It's just ugh, why do I want to? Although have
I told you you need to watch Tulsa King on Paramount? No,
you're busy, You're busy telling me about real steel. Sylvester. Oh,
of course, was just such a great movie, Sylvester Salone.

(01:25:15):
It's Tulsa King was created by Taylor Sheridan, who did Yellowstone.
And I'm not a huge Slice Salone fan, but he
is so good in this series.

Speaker 5 (01:25:27):
So you're barking up the wrong tree because we've tried
Yellowstone a couple times.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
We did too, and I never watched the whole thing,
and do it. This is really good. It's about Slice
Salone being a mobster who gets out of prison after
a twenty five year stretch and basically gets excommunicated by
the mob to Tulsa to create a criminal organization in Tulsa.
It is wildly entertaining. There are some really dark humor

(01:25:51):
jokes in there that I burst out laughing. So Tulsa
King Market, it's on Paramount. When we get back, let's
talk to my realtor, Ed Praiser. Well, how is the
market going? If you've been sitting on your house waiting
to sell we're going to tell you when that right
time might be. We're going to do that next. What
is happening in the real estate market? I decided to
check with my realtor, Ed Praether because he knows what's

(01:26:15):
going on. Good afternoon, I must say, good morning.

Speaker 8 (01:26:17):
Ed Hi, ed hie many, thank you for having me, well, thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
For coming on, because you and I had a chat
yesterday and the market is I'm just going to use
the word weird right now. Is that a fair assessment
because things are sort of like everybody's stuck on ready set,
ready set, ready set, waiting for rates to drop. So

(01:26:42):
right now, let's talk about the state of the real
estate market as it is. There's some good news in
terms of availability.

Speaker 8 (01:26:49):
Well, I think you're right on. You know, we've used
the word weird, strange, you know, somewhat volatile, and that's
because you know, we've been talking about looking at hoping
for the fit to make cuts. We see that happening
sooner than later, but the cuts aren't here yet. And
so just like you said, we're sort of we're all
waiting for these and of course we have sort of

(01:27:09):
these golden handcuffs. As far as you know, a lot
of sellers, even with the need to sell, have a
hard time letting that three percent mortgage go. You know,
the FED men. At the end of July, we've seen
a lot of activity though, So you know what I
mean by that is is more mortgage applications. You know,
as we foresee and expect a soft landing is going

(01:27:30):
to be the reality or hopefully is the reality, as
well as showings and even offers. But I'll tell you
it is really specific to property in micro market, meaning
kind of the neighborhood. You know, is you got to
be real careful because if you're not positioned well, if
you're not priced well, the home could easily sit.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
And let's talk about pricing as a part of this,
because you just mentioned the golden handcuffs, so the mortgage rates.
But it seems that people who's neighbor and I'm just
going to use a round number, maybe your neighbors were
sold home for seven hundred thousand dollars two years ago.
Your home may not be getting seven hundred thousand dollars
right now, but the sellers are not ready to make

(01:28:10):
those sort of price adjustments.

Speaker 8 (01:28:13):
Well, you're right on, and it's like we spoke about yesterday.
You know, I think the word that comes to mind
when I when we talk about pricing is resilience in
the metro area. You know, we saw we're going to
have our August data here within a day or two,
so certainly I'll fill you in. But you know, between
June and July, we saw the medium close price basically

(01:28:34):
hold steady. And when we see the amount of active inventory,
you'll peak above that ten thousand units that we haven't
seen in gosh ten years. But pricing to stay steady
and where it's at, it's it's incredible. And I think,
you know, just like you had said, what we're seeing is,
you know, sellers are not willing to make those those

(01:28:54):
price decreases to force the sale. And and because of that,
I think in many cases you have folks that want
to sell but may not need to sell.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Right As a realtor, I think that's got to be
a nightmare when you go and talk to a potential
client and they're like, you know, we just want to
put it on the martgage and see what's going to happen.
As someone who's trying to make a sale, that's got
to be like, eh, not your favorite customer to have.

Speaker 8 (01:29:20):
Everybody's different, and we absolutely understand that, and I think
what we want is we understand you've been to this
mandate that bringing a house to market doesn't just happen,
and the last thing we're going to do is present
a home if it's not ready to be presented, and shoot,
with each situation being different, It's okay if we're in

(01:29:41):
the range of, hey, here's what we suspect the market
will bear, it's one thing. It's another thing if a
seller doesn't want to put the time in and is
trying to be opportunistic and hit a price that just
isn't realistic. And we're not doing anybody any any service
by taking something like that on and having someone go

(01:30:02):
through the thrashing around and on market, having showings, having
if we're far off from day one right on what
that pricing is and what the reality is going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
So are you finding with the people that you're meeting with?
What are there? And I'm sure there's a million different
but I'd love to know kind of a general feel.
Why are people looking to sell? Are they looking to downsize,
are they looking to upsize? Are they moving? What are
you hearing from the people that are in the market
to sell their homes.

Speaker 8 (01:30:28):
It's a great question, and just like you said, you know,
every there's so many different reasons. You know, we see
a lot of folks that are leaving the state, and
you know, sometimes it's gosh, we hear things like traffic,
We hear things around the cost of living. You know,
we have a lot of folks moving to the south.
We hear the Carolinas a lot, and frankly, you know,

(01:30:52):
we have seen just the cost of things go up
across the board. And so you know, although many folks
don't need to sell, we see a lot of folks
that want to just to make it a little bit
more bearable. And maybe those are folks that have a
long standing mortgage that is, you know, not the sixth
or the seven that we've seen as of recent and

(01:31:14):
sometimes it is sort of in the last eighteen months
or the last two years they've purchased the home and
kind of realized that, hey, this equation doesn't work. I
think the majority of the time we see folks downsizing,
but it really does. It varies across the board.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
So if you're talking to someone who's kind of one
of those people saying, look, you know, we're trying to
decide whether we're going to list right now. We're expecting
and I'm trying to not be overly confident, but I
expect the FED to drop the interest rates at least
twenty five basis points, which is basically a quarter of
a percent in September. Is Do you feel the same way,

(01:31:55):
and if so, is that going to unleash buyers who
are able to say, look, okay, you know what it's
it's not two percent but five Maybe low sixes is
a manageable thing, because I've seen mortgages in the low
six is now.

Speaker 8 (01:32:09):
Absolutely, and we're seeing stuff quoted in the high fives
right now. Okay, there's sort of this unspoken rule, and
we've heard it again and again, especially lately, that you know,
we need to see rates in the mid five for
people to really want to make that jump board to
let go of that three percent mortgage. So you know,
we're watching really closely. But I do expect that activity

(01:32:33):
will continue to increase, and we've seen it since the
end of July, you know, quite frankly, and with that,
you are certainly in correlation to those mortgage rates going down.
You know, the narrative and understanding when we look at
the cuts that we expect is that to some extent,
it's already baked into the rate. You know that that
those cuts we're all looking at and expecting the same

(01:32:56):
thing that September, you know, twenty five basis points, maybe
fifty basis points. But I think the reality is is
that we're going to see a big jump in activity
as people become more optimistic about the future.

Speaker 10 (01:33:08):
You're right.

Speaker 8 (01:33:08):
I talked yesterday about you know, it's not just the
rate itself, it's the news around the rate. It's the
news around the future and the economy and having optimism
about you know, hey, maybe this is still a little
bit high now, but it can work and in the
future it's going to be lower. And it looks to
me and we expect that that is going to be

(01:33:29):
the case, and hopefully that starts in just a couple
of weeks when the dead needs.

Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
You started this conversation by talking about, you know, neighborhood
specific Some neighborhoods are selling faster than others. But if
you've got money that you'd like to invest in real estate,
are there any deals right now? Are people sitting on
those prices waiting for them to come down.

Speaker 8 (01:33:50):
I would say that there are always deals. The deals
come up when it's very specific to that seller. So
it's hard for me to say that in one area
there's more deals than another area because someone that you know,
we deal with folks in certain cases that have to
get to family in another state very quickly, and of

(01:34:10):
course with a fdicial duty, it is our job, it
is our responsibility to get them the very most. But
if they don't want to bring it to market, you know,
that may be, you know, create an opportunity for a
buyer and someone who who potentially has the ability to
take care of some of those repairs that certain sellers
don't want to mess with, or bringing to market, and
or even bringing it to market at all. We have

(01:34:33):
a lot of folks that just say, hey, you know,
we need to do this quickly. You know, do you
have somebody that might be interested in And of course,
like you and I have time, We've got a big database,
so you know, most of the time we can get
that done at a price that makes sense for everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
So I wanted to ask you about the buyers that
you're seeing. Are these first time home buyers, because I
feel like there are a lot of i'll call them
middle millennials who are ready to buy a hole right
and they've maybe been sitting out waiting for those lower
mortgage rates. What do you seeing on the buy side
who is out there shopping.

Speaker 8 (01:35:04):
We do see a lot of first time home buyers,
and I think, you know, first time home buyers want
to want to own a home because the concept of
owning a home has been something that they're you know,
part of their goals. They're part of something that they
have set forth in what they want for their lives,
and they're less concerned about, you know, some of the

(01:35:25):
complexities and implications. I think that maybe some of us,
like you and I many kind of overthink, yeah, we're
trying to guess what's going to happen here and there.
I mean, you know, frankly speaking, we believe fully, you
know that in the next few quarters you're going to
see rates come down, and so, you know, we've seen
first time home buyers be pretty active, gosh over the

(01:35:48):
last couple of years, because we remember what it was
like in twenty twenty one. You could not you couldn't
get an offer accept and especially as a home, first
time home buyer, when you don't have a big down payment,
it's even so we are seeing a lot of opportunistic
folks take advantage. And you know, those people so far
have done quite well because they are taking action when

(01:36:12):
when some of us are overthinking things.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
Right, sometimes making a decision is better than waffling about
a decision, especially when I actually think ed and you
and I talked about this yesterday. I think when we
have the first rate cut, the market heats up. If
there is another rate cut in December, which that's it's
more debatable than the rate cut that I'm pretty certain
is going to happen in September. But if that rate

(01:36:35):
cut happens in December, then it becomes a feeding frenzy
and and that's when it becomes again a seller's market.
And if you're sitting on the sidelines now as a
potential buyer, I think you're missing opportunities that are out
there right this second. Because what do they say, ed,
you date the rate, you marry the house, right, you

(01:36:57):
don't have to worry about marrying the rate the rate
you can reach later. So I've just been telling like
young people that I know have been sitting on the sidelines.
I'm like, I would really look right now because you
don't want to be in it when everybody else is
in it. You want to be in it before everybody.

Speaker 8 (01:37:12):
Else is in it. And I think you're absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Yeah, So if you want to buy or sell, it's
time to call Ed pray Or He and his team
are the absolute best. Ed give everybody your phone number.

Speaker 8 (01:37:24):
Uh seven two oh six five nine four nine five nine,
excuse me, seven to sixty five oh four nine five nine.
You know we are here to inform, you know, in
a big part of this man you said, some folks
are considering selling maybe is it now? Is it in
the future? And on the same side is buying if
nothing else? You know, we are really focused and really
committed and just empowering our folks of information, you know,

(01:37:45):
so they can make an educated choice for themselves. And
I'll tell you what. As a buyer right now, you know,
you've got to be disimprinted in what's a fit because
there's great opportunities and you don't need to bend over backwards.
And it's been a long time since we have been
able to say that. So if your discipline, you've got
more inventory than you used to, and I think it's

(01:38:07):
a great time to start the process.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Well, I do know that you know, I'm on reeltor
dot com all the time, and like really, for someone
who's not actively in the market, I know way more
about what houses are sitting and where than I should, Okay,
And I do know that there are especially if you're
a first time home buyer looking to get into the
condo market, now is the time to get into the
condo market because there's a lot of condos on the

(01:38:31):
listing sites right now, so there are opportunities. And Ed
would be the guy I would always recommend Edprather dot com,
Ed p R A T H e R dot com.
And I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
He always a.

Speaker 8 (01:38:43):
Pleasure to be on. Thank you so much, manmy, and
just let us know how we can help.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
I sure will, thanks Ed. He is Uh, he's just fantastic.
And interesting times in the real estate market right now,
very interesting, not bad, not great, interesting And what is
the old curse? MAYE live in interesting times? Ryan Edwards?
We do live in interesting times. Indeed, I thought of you,
uh on Monday morning or when I was at Target, Okay,

(01:39:08):
because I swung by the Starbucks to get my car.
I just do regular coffee, then I don't do the
fancy coffee. And a woman in front of me literally went.

Speaker 9 (01:39:15):
Just like this.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
She picked up her coffee with PSL, I missed you,
And I was like, what is in that coffee cup?
Is there crack? What is in it that makes it addictive? Yes?
It is laced with heroin and all me a, why
do you think we all drink Coca Cola to the
day it started out with? Come on, you think that's

(01:39:36):
a coincidence.

Speaker 12 (01:39:37):
I think in general, coffee and caffeine, right, yeah, coffee
can represent, you know, sort of a source of happiness
and and because it's only for a certain amount of time,
there's a specialness to it, like like Starbucks could do this.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
Your scarcity is what you're talking about, garcity of it
makes it special. You know what's funny about coffee culture
in the United States versus coffee culture in Europe totally different.
They're the only thing that connects them is they are
both coffee related. But in Europe they don't have to
go cups. You are not the only people that walk
around Europe with a to go cup of coffee are

(01:40:11):
Americans because they sit and they have their little cups,
and they sit and enjoy their coffee and they have
a conversation and then they get up and go about
their day. It's funny.

Speaker 12 (01:40:19):
I have a limited Europe one time. But now that
you bring it up, yeah I didn't. I didn't think
about it at the time. But everywhere we went and
got coffee, it was a we sit here and have
coffee and have coffee.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
And I told Chuck the first three months of my retirement,
I fully intend to spend in laws on Switzerland, on
the shores of Lake Geneva, sitting and drinking little coffee
out of little cups. Switzerland is so bod oh. It
is probably my favorite place in the world other than
the United States. Switzerland is number two. Can't wait to
go back there in the summer. It's on my list
of things to do. So I have to ask you

(01:40:50):
a question about your show yesterday because a listener pointed
out that Dave Logan was kind of giving you grief
a little bit about.

Speaker 12 (01:40:58):
Losing out the day well deserved, and I was talking
to Anthey about it. I mean, my brain locked up
and it was one of those deals where I mean
people can say they've been there or they won't. But
for whatever reason, my brain on a Tuesday after a
three day holiday weekend was just not not quite braining.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
But did Dave Logan say he could win of the day?
Was that actually said? Because so pretty sure I'm going
to drop the gauntlet right in front of mister Logan.
Good luck with that, but.

Speaker 10 (01:41:25):
Go on trying that.

Speaker 12 (01:41:27):
But yeah, he did say something about that. I mean,
he is his brain is pretty phenomenal resault.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
The thing that kills me about Dave Logan when I
listen to your show is when he's like that game
back in eighty seven. We were on the third and
seven and there was a sweep to the right, and
I'm like, what else is in there? It blows my mind.

Speaker 12 (01:41:48):
Brain man, makes it quite literally impossible to get into
an argument about anything because I'm like, that didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
And I already know as soon as I say that,
you're going to come on, it definitely happened. Yeah, it's
it's it's really remarkable think about. And this is what
I imagine if David decided to cure cancer instead just
saying just throwing that out.

Speaker 12 (01:42:08):
There, he and again the things he does already right now,
but it just feels like because of his brain.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
You're right, he could be doing so much more.

Speaker 12 (01:42:17):
I say that lovingly because as it is, I don't
know if the man ever sleeps because he has so
much on his plate.

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
Yeah, well, it's all self imposed. And don't feel too
sorry for him. Don't cry for him, Argentina, because now
it's time for the most exciting segment all the radio
of it's kind in the world of the day. All right,
what's our dada? Which letter keeps pirates calm?

Speaker 7 (01:42:41):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
No, he because without it they are irate.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
Oh okay, that's actually again.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
I like that better than why they can't finish the alphabet?
Why is that because they get lost? That's oh well, okay.
I when is our word of the day?

Speaker 11 (01:42:57):
Please?

Speaker 5 (01:42:58):
It is an adjective adjective Byzantine Byzantine by z A
N T I N E.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Byzantine. Familiar with the word, and I don't think I
can clearly define either. I got nothing something to do
with the Byzantine Empire.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
No, something described as Byzantine is very complicated, secret and
hard to Oh got it?

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Okay, that's good. I don't think I ever knew that
word meant until right now. Anyway, In geometry, what is
an isaucles triangle? I've been thinking about this all day
and I think I know it well. Isaucles? Isn't that
the because because there's there's acute, which has a tiny
angle at an angle, and then oblong is the wider angle.
But that's not a triangle. Isn't it one of the

(01:43:41):
two of the same size? Yeah, that's what I thought
it was gonna get a triangle with two sides of
equal links. There is the two angles opposite. The equal
sides are also equal. There is, it's just even Stevens.
There you go, all right? What is our jeopardy category?
Another easy one for Ryan? Don't please God? It is episode.

(01:44:02):
I'd rather be anything else. Episode. Every answer has E
p I. Okay, there you go. There you go. A
fast spreading outbreak of a disease. What's an epidemic?

Speaker 5 (01:44:13):
Correct a short section at the end of a book
from the Greek for seizure. It's a medieval condition, his epilepsy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
Ryan's on the board. A witty saying or expression and
an epithet.

Speaker 10 (01:44:29):
No raw.

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
Brian saying or expression is epigram. I would have gotten
that so one, I just lost a point. The best
example of something, best example of.

Speaker 9 (01:44:57):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Let's go to a tiebreaker. It is epitome. Epitome. Um,
oh my, there's my Ryan. That's okay, epitome everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
Okay, it's okay because I was an epi.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Yeah, Ryan, watch yourself. Let's go to.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
Play time. Okay, playtime. The French called this floor or
table game.

Speaker 11 (01:45:29):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:45:30):
No, I'm not gonna I'm gonna do that one. Shoots
and Ladders began as a hindoo game of these and ladders. Brian, Ryan,
I knew that one too, some free and fast enough
the epitome of success.

Speaker 12 (01:45:43):
You guys, you guys set this up so I feel
a little better about myself.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
To look that much like a fool. I didn't even
let my child win a candy Land when she was four.
You will never get a gift here. You don't believe
I have the.

Speaker 12 (01:45:55):
Same mentality right about bold everything like when they win,
I want them to know they won the correct exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
And there's nobody gets a freebie from Mars. And you
know what, when she won the first time, she literally
danced around with her fingers in my face, so I
knew I'd done it right. We'll be back tomorrow. Oka
Sports coming up next. Keep it right here,