09-05-24 FULL SHOW - John Fabbricatore Needs To Go To Congress, + A Rally for Kids

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Our short work week. I'm Mandy Connall will be here
for the next three hours, joined of course by my
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I call him a rod you can call him Anthony.

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Rodriguez, and together we will take you straight up until
three pm when the guys of KAA Sports take over
and oh boy, did the poop hit the fan in
the last twenty four hours about the Aurora story. Okay,
so let's go to the blog because I got a
lot to say about that. We got a lot of
guests coming up today that I'm very excited about. Bernadette,

(01:03):
if you're listening, if you're the nice lady who sent
me the letter about having John Fabricatory on the show,
you are in luck, young lady, because John Fabricatory is
on today's show.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Let's go to the blog.

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You can find it by going to mandy'sblog dot com.
That's mandy'sblog dot com.

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Look for the.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Headline that says nine to five twenty four blog John
Fabricatory needs to go to Congress, plus a rally for kids.
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to Japan. John Fabricatory needs your support. There's a rally
to stop the war on children about the debt. Greg
Guttfeld is a national treasure. Yes, gangs took over apartment
complexes in twenty twenty three, and yep, gang members have
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Those are the headlines on the blog at Mandy's blog

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dot com. And oh boy, you guys, oh mg, as
the kids used to say, I don't think they say it.
Do the kids still say that? Anthony say what? Omg?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Uh yeah, I think so?

Speaker 7 (02:59):
You think so?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Not as often as all.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Millennials, right, I mean, I am you're able, you're getting
older and now you're not and maybe you're not as
hip with what the kids say.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
I mean, you do have riz. I am the Rizzler.
I am the Wizard of Oz, got all of the riz. Anyway,
I'm hip. OMG.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Lots of stuff happened in the last twenty four hours
as two main news media outlets are doing a thing
called journalism. Say it with me, kids, journalism. First of all,
I want to talk about uh CBS four because CBS
four did a bang up story about a report that

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was filed by a Denver law firm and I believe
they broke it first, and then the Denver Gazette also
picked up on the story. But I want to share
with you just a little bit about this story. And
if you are been out of town, maybe you've been
under a raw, maybe even in the back country enjoying
quiet and solitude. Let me give you a quick update

(04:05):
of what's gone on so far. Aurora City council Member
Danielle Durinsky started sounding the alarm about three specific apartment
complexes in Aurora that her constituents had told her had
been taken over by gangs. She was so concerned about
this she ended up helping three different families move out

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of said apartment complexes.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
And when she asked within the city, hey, what's going
on with these apartment complexes?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
They've been taken over by gangs people in the city
and elsewhere, Like our governor said, this lady is Craig Gray.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
What are you talking about.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
The governor even went so far as to say it
was a figment of her imagination. Now, because Danielle is
a conservative woman, our nemesis over at Channel nine, Kyle Clark,
he hates conservative women for some reason, can't wait to
do everything. He can in their power to make them
look silly. So he started his usual look at this

(05:03):
crazy lady on the right with this crazy story of
gangs taken over apartment complexes, and Danielle Derinsky was like,
nuh uh, I'm actually talking to the people who live there,
so yeah, I kind of know what's going on. She
also implied that there was a big cover up going
on within the city and lo and behold, over the
last few days, things have started to come a little clearer.

(05:27):
So after the governor said it was a figment of
her imagination, Mayor Mike Kaufman finally came out and said, yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Have a problem in certain parts of Aurora.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Not widespread, and I understand the pr here, I understand
the public relations, but this is limited to certain areas
of Aurora. At the same time, Mayor Mike Johnston's like,
we don't have any of these problems in Denver.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Well maybe because yeah, they're on Aurora right now. Now.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
What's been really funny on Twitter over the last two
days has been, Wow, you probably shouldn't vote for the
people that are in charge of Aurora right now. Except
the people in charge of Aurora right now aren't the
ones who passed sanctuary city and sanctuary state policies that
led forty thousand Venezuelan immigrants to want to settle here.

(06:15):
Let's remember that is democratic rule right there. Do you
remember when Mayor Michael Hancock said, immigrants welcome the big
banner across City Hall in Denver. In Denver, But now
Aurora has to clean up their messes because Aurora has
a problem. And here's the problem with these three apartment complexes,
and the ketchup is almost done, so just stick with me.

(06:37):
These three apartment complexes are run by an out of
state company that they are slum lords. They were slum
lords before the gangs took over. There are slum lords now.
So we have apartments that have been left to rot
and decay harshly. At least the landlord makes this excuse
because gangs have taken over and it's.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Now unsafe for the management people to be there.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Throughout all of this, nine News.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Has been getting people talking heads on their show to say,
this is crazy, this isn't an issue. What are we
talking about? You guys are nuts that Danielle Darinsky what
a dgmatch is? I mean, it's been the gas lighting
has been over the top. But thankfully we do have
news media outlets in this town that are not afraid
to look into this stuff, like journalists look into stuff,

(07:25):
and Brian moss Over at CBS News filed a report
that is absolutely worth your time. As a matter of fact,
give me my audio here, Aeron, I'll just play Brian's
report and let you hear for yourself.

Speaker 8 (07:38):
Well, this has become a national story. The supposed takeover
of some Aurora apartment complex is by a violent Venezuelan gang.
This now viral video shared with us by a former
resident of the apartments there at Twelfth Avenue and Dallas
Street shows a group of armed men entering her neighbor's home.

Speaker 9 (07:54):
There are unverified claims that the TDA gang has taken
over several apartment buildings. We're talking about Simmons Place apartments
on Colfax and Nome, the Edge at Lowry on Twelfth
in Dallas, and Whispering Pines near Colfax and Chambers. All
of those complexes are run by CBZ Management. That's an
out of state company facing dozens of charges in Aurora

(08:14):
Municipal Court.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Aurora and Denver police have publicly acknowledged.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
Their RTDA gang members in their cities, but they say
that gang's numbers are not large and they operate in
isolated area.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Some beliefs stories exactly.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
Okay, there's accused Aurora officials of downplaying what's been going on.
This is journal leaders in laws side have repeatedly contradicted
each other on the scope of the problem and the
city's response to it, and we have been working to
get answers for you. So now your investigator, Brian Moss,
has obtained a confidential report into one of those apartment
complexes and that report says a Venezuelan gang began taking

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it over in twenty twenty three and now has a
strangehold on that complex.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
So Brian, who did author this report?

Speaker 10 (08:56):
So this is the nine page report. It was put
together by a Denver law firm. They say they were
hired to look into the Whispering Pines apartments by the
building's lenders.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Last month.

Speaker 10 (09:08):
They sent this report to Aurora's mayor, city manager and
police chief and then.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Trying to push the blame on the families.

Speaker 10 (09:16):
As recently as Tuesday, residents at the Edge apartment complex
and Aurora pushed back on reports that a.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Venezuelan gang had taken over their building. Criminal there is
the owner of the building, but five.

Speaker 10 (09:30):
Miles away at the Whispering Pines, a fifty four unit
apartment building in Aurora, this detailed letter, asking for confidential
treatment of the contents, shared a different story. It was
sent to Aurora officials on August ninth, with the investigators
saying the evidence we have reviewed indicates that gang members
are engaging in flagrant trespass violations, assaults and battery, human trafficking,

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sexual abuse of minors, unlawful firearms possession, extortion, and other
criminal activities, often targeting vulnerable Venezuelan and other immigrant populations.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Now I'm going to stop this story here for a
second because something occurred to me the other day as
I was listening to this press conference put on by
these residents. Now, imagine that you are from a country
that is run by a dictator named Maduro, and if
you get out of line in your home country of Venezuela,
if you go up against the Menduro regime, the chances
of you just disappearing or being disappeared are kind of significant.

(10:31):
They're not afraid to kill political opponents in Venezuela. Why
would you be any different. So, now you have yourself
in a situation where you have housing. It's crappy housing,
the housing sucks, You've got a slum lord. But at
the same time gangs have taken over. You cannot fix
the gang problem because you're not armed, you're scared, you've
been threatened, but you can go after the slum lord rightfully. So,

(10:53):
and this is what I've been saying the whole time.
Two things can be true. At the same time. We
have slum lords that own these buildings and they have
been taken over by Venezuelan gangs. But I'll let him
continue about the report.

Speaker 10 (11:07):
According to the law firm's report, the Venezuelan gang trend
de Iragua has threatened to kill and in certain instances,
has apparently actively attempted to kill members of Whispering Pines Management.
The report says a consultant for the property management company
was severely beaten and stomped by gang members and was hospitalized.

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The alleged incident recorded by building cameras with screenshots attached
to the letter. The report relies on a property manager
who said that gang members allegedly stabbed a Whispering Pines
resident for refusing to pay rent to the gang. He
also told the investigators the takeover began last November.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
The report recounts that this summer, the gang.

Speaker 10 (11:51):
Approached the property manager and told him they would help him.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Out in exchange for half of all the rent that
he collected.

Speaker 11 (11:58):
The law firm that wrote through.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
A called that an organized crime tactic.

Speaker 10 (12:03):
The gang members then allegedly took over vacant apartments, according
to the document, moved families into those units, and started
collecting rent. The law firm says, this is a picture
of gang members breaking into a vacant apartment so they
could move a Venezuelan family in and then collect rent.
This is our business plan. One gang member told a housekeeper.

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If he the property manager, doesn't like it, we'll fill
him with bullets. The report authors called the gang's behavior
brazen and further exhibits the suspected gang member's sense of
comfort and control, consistent with their taking over the property
and not fearing law enforcement or the property management.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Now, the dead law firm that wrote.

Speaker 10 (12:45):
That August report did not respond to our repeated request
by both phone and email for more information on their report.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
And late this afternoon the City.

Speaker 10 (12:54):
Of Aurora confirmed getting this letter and said it immediately
included it in its on investigative work of potential criminal
activity at those Aurora apartment buildings. So very much an
ongoing situation here. More's going to come out, but this
letter is certainly very interesting.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
At this point.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
So that is the report that essentially confirms everything that
Danielle Jirinsky, that crazy dame, has been saying.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
And by the way, the law firm is Perkinsky.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
They are a very very well connected, democratic leaning law firm,
very well known, and so this isn't like Bob's law
firm that nobody trusts and nobody thinks is you know,
telling the truth. I find it interesting that they wanted
this handled with the utmost confidentiality.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
And this is the issue.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Daniel Drinsky sounded the alarm because no one would let
her know that they were paying attention. And now, I mean,
maybe there was some deep, dark investigation. And guess what
if somebody had just said, hey, here's what's going on,
she wouldn't have been yelling. She would have been waited
for the outcome of this long term investigation. But what's

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happened with this story. That I find so incredibly fascinating
is how clearly different media outlets triangulated based on their
political persuasion. It is obvious that next viewers who trust
Kyle Clark and think he is the end all be
all of newsmen are missing huge parts of this story

(14:26):
because Kyle is hell bent on making sure that he
makes Daniel Drinsky look bad, far more than he is
hell bent on being a journalist. I love his little
accountability journalism that he never seems to hold himself for
account I've never seen him go on the air and say,
you know what, I tweeted about Daniel Dorinsky in a

(14:47):
derogatory way, and I'm sorry about that because I was wrong.
That will never come out of Kyle Clark's mouth.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It just won't.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I don't understand his obsession with making any right leaning
woman look foolish when they start talking about real things
that are actually happening that are inconvenient for the Democratic
regime in this state.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
JAREDT.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Polis, Michael Hancock, Michael Johnston for rolling out the red
carpet for illegal immigrants. They are the root cause of
this issue. Don't Democrats love to talk about root causes?
The root cause of this issue in Aurora is that
millions of people have been able to walk across the
southern border completely unvetted. We don't know how many of

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them are good and decent people and how many of
them are blatant and horrible criminals.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
This is why those of us on the right have
been sounding the alarm. It's not that I don't want
people to immigrate here. It's just that I want to
know who's coming. I want to know if their intention
is to kill me or to build a business and
support their family. Those are two very different propositions. And
as dumb as our immigration system is, and oh my god,

(16:04):
is it dumb, it's better than what we have now,
which is thousands and thousands of people walking across the
southern border. You gotta figure what percentage. And I'm just
gonna ask you guys this question.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Just do it in your head.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
What percentage of the overall population anywhere is of criminal intent?

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Right?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Because in every population there are gonna be scumbags who
are not gonna want to go the way, the straight
and narrow. They're gonna want to go the perceived easy
way to make big money or get what they want.
They're not gonna follow the rules. So what percentage of
the population do you think that is? Okay, Now, let's
just say ten million people have come across the southern border.

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What percentage did you have in your mind? Even if
you had ten percent, that's a million people of criminal
intent that have walked across the southern border unfettered.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
This is why we're having these problems in Aurora.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's not because of the conservative leadership of city council.
They have this thrust upon them by the crappy Democratic
policies that made us a sanctuary state. So yeah, I
mean the political finger pointing and oh, blessed Roskominsky's heart.
He had the governor on today and he pressed him
multiple times. He shared with him this story that Perkinskoy

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had done this report, the show that gangs took over
at the end.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Of twenty twenty three, and Jared Police.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Literally did this, la la la la la, I'm not
listening to you. He could not admit that he should
not have said that this was Daniel Drensky's imagination. Yeah,
that's shameful. He should be embarrassed.

Speaker 11 (17:39):
Our governor is.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Becoming more and more not that he's ever not been this,
but he's becoming more and more of a nakedly partisan
political hack. He's always been very political in the sense
that I believe that Jared Poulis charted his path to
the White House probably twenty years ago.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
He bought himself a seat on the Board of.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Education, spending way more money, like twenty million dollars to
get that seat, two million whatever, multiples of one hundred
of what has ever been spent to get on the
Board of Education. He then goes and wins a really
easy to win congressional seat. Then he comes back and
spends gobs and gobs of his own money twenty five
million dollars to be elected governor. He's got a path, right,

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but he's always sort of tried to maintain some sense
of independence. But after watching him at the Democratic National
Convention get up.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
And make and lie over and over and over.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Again about what was in Project twenty twenty five in
service to his Democratic overlords, any sense that I had
that he had some sort of independence flew right out
the window, and listening to him today refused to acknowledge
the things that Ross said that this story far from
someone's imagination. It's now been verified and listening to him

(19:05):
just pretend that didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Ugh, it was just gross. I hope he feels dirty
at least, I mean at.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Least I hope he has enough dignity to feel a
little shame about it. Most politicians don't in both parties,
by the way, most so maybe I'm just asking for
too much. The Aurora Police Department put out on social
media yesterday that they had arrested for gang members, and

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I'm thinking to myself, Okay, so is this what we're
gonna do Now? We're just gonna act like nobody pretended
this wasn't happening, and now we're just gonna act like.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
No, no, it's fine, it's fine. Everything is a okay.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
The Aurora PED put this out yesterday on x On
July twenty ninth, the Aurora ped arrested Jennardi Dejezos Pacheco Chirinos,
age twenty four, for attempted murder and other charges. We
can now confirm he's a documentary member of trendy Agua.
He's the brother of Janardi jo Jose Pacheco Charinez, also
known as Cookie or Gaieta. After working with our local, state,

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and federal partners, we are now able to share those
gang related connections. They both remain in ice custody. Two
others were arrested on the same day are also suspected
gang members. These two have gang ties and are suspected
to be members of TDA.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Then they finished with.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Any presence of criminal activity, including gang activity, will not
be tolerated. The Aurora Police Department will continue to fight crime.
We will find and arrest those responsible. So the story
is in my mind confirmed. The accusations that have been
made have now been confirmed by this Perkins Koy confidential

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report that was sent both to the Aurora City Manager
and Mayor Mike Kaufman, which begs the question why if
they got the report at the beginning of August, what
are they doing about it. Why wasn't it presented to
the city cam. Why weren't more people brought in to
talk about this issue. Why did it require Danielle Drinsky

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shouting from the rooftops to get anybody to pay attention
to this?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
And as for local.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Media, Brian Moss did that story on CBS. The Denver
Gazette's been covering this stuff pretty closely. Fox thirty one
had a pretty decent story on it the other day,
and nine News is the outlier. Nine News under Kyle
Clark's leadership, and I have to believe he's the leader
of the team over there, because that's certainly how it's presented.

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He has gone out of his way to downplay, to
talk to people who were like, Nope, not happening. Even
I don't think they actually did any journalism at nine News,
to look into police reports like they did at the
Denver Gazette, to actually look for data like they did
at Fox thirty one, to actually find this report, as

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CBS four did. And if that doesn't tell you everything
you need to know about the bias of Kyle Clark,
I don't know. No one can help you at that point.
And what's profoundly disturbing is.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
In my mind.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
And call me crazy, but the more people know about
stuff like this, the harder it should be for these
gangs to operate in our communities. The more people know
what's going on, maybe we embolden someone who is being
shaken down, who is being extorted, who knows about things
like child sexual exploitation, as was alleged in the Perkins

(22:38):
Square report, is happening at one of these apartment complexes.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
I mean, these are not no big deal crimes.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
If it was just shoplifting at Walmart, there's a lot
of people that'd be like, oh, it's shoplifting.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Walmart's a billion dollar company. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
These are crimes where people are being hurt. There are
still photos of a property manager being beaten by gay members.
So I would say, I can't wait to see what
Kyle Clark's gonna do, But I really don't care because
I already know exactly how this is gonna go. Because
a couple was it yesterday when someone tweeted at me

(23:16):
a story and said they tweeted it me. Oh, I
tweeted out the story from CBS and said, holy cow,
this story looks worse and worse.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Not only did the.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Gas lighter's gas light, they knew they were lying when
they did it, and someone tweeted at me. Anyone check
in with Kyle Clark yet, I said, he's writing up
tomorrow's next where he says Danielle Drinsky is still.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Wrong and so.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Like clockwork, and I mean like clockwork, Danielle Drinsky sends
out a story a couple of days ago, two days
ago about a Chicago apartment complex where some said gangs
had taken over, and she said, I've said many times
that this is not just an Aurora problem.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
This is a national problem.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I don't know that entire cities are being taken over,
but certainly entire complexes there are.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
And two days later, Kyle Clark.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Wade in with a Chicago Tribute story saying authorities said
migrants did not trespass with weapons and motorcycles, just bite
rumors circulated by ex owner Elon Musk and others. Of course,
he's not digging into the story here. He's now looking
into stories in Chicago because the story here has been confirmed,

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and there's no way for him to not report on
the story unless he looks elsewhere. Look over here, look
over here. By the way, Uh, there's also stories out
of Dallas that Danielle tweeted about today about apartment complexes
being taken.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Over by gangs.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Now, I don't know if you guys remember did you
ever see the movie New Jack City aerd No, all
of there are old movies.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well real still is not that old.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
New Jack City is very much a moment in time
kind of movie, like if you want to know what
the crack epidemic of the nineteen eighties look like through
a Hollywood lens, New Jack City is what you watch.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
It's a good movie. It's it feels a little.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's it's not standing up the test of time, if
you know what I mean. I watched it like two
years ago and I was like, Okay, Chris Rock. I
think that was Chris Rock's first role was in New
Jack City. But the whole premise of New Jack City
was that an apartment building had been taken over by
a game and they basically create a fortification where they

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run all their business from. So the thought that this
is somehow unprecedented and is a brand new idea that's
never been tried before is absurd. And the thought that
it can't happen in Aurora because officials keep saying no.
And by the way, where's Jason Batchelor, Where's the city
manager of Aurora?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Where's he in all this? Now we know he got
the letter too.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
At least me or Mike Kaufman eventually came out and said, yeah,
this is a problem. We know that apartment buildings have
been taken over by gangs. But I guess Jason Batchel
has been on vacation this week. I don't know, he
hasn't been in the office. I have no idea, but
what was being done? What is being done? We also
know that yesterday, according to the Aurora PD, there was

(26:20):
a SWAT team sent in to do an arrest. The
arrest went down peacefully, But guess where they were sending
the swat team into do an arrest. So the way
this story has been handled is not surprising, I'll just
say that, but such a clear delineator of bias for

(26:41):
news media outlets in this town.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
And if you watch nine News because you want to.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Learn the whole picture, you most certainly are not getting
the whole picture. You're getting the Kyle Clark approved brand
of whatever a story they're going to tell. Truth be damned,
journalism be damn. It doesn't matter. They're getting their lunch
eaten on this story. And I'd love to see them
come back and admitute. But I just don't think it's possible.

(27:08):
You know, one of the things I've always taken really
seriously on this program. If I find out later I
got something wrong, I'm going to let you know. It's
why I've issued many mea culpas on the vaccine, many
because I was reading the information that I was given,
but I didn't know that Pfizer wasn't giving all the information.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
So I have to say I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I think that is why people listen to this show
in part because even if you disagree with me, you know,
if I think I got something wrong, I'm going to
correct the record. But if I say it, it's because
I think it's true and I think it's right and
I think it's accurate until I have information that shows
me otherwise. And when I find that information, you're going
to be the first to hear about it.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
So anyway, that's enough on that.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I just had to get all of that off my
chest because last night I was like, oh my goodness,
Oh my goodness, this has gone to the next level.
I want to talk about a story that I didn't
think was a story and I didn't talk about it,
but Greg Guttfeld just took it on last night and
it's so good. Back right after this, Donald Trump appeared

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at Arlington Cemetery. Photographs were taken and then shared on
social media of him at Arlington Cemetery placing a wreath
on the tomb of the Unknown Soldier with some gold
Star families, and immediately the media attacked Donald Trump because
one of the workers at Arlington National Cemetery tried to

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create a kerfuffle during the event with gold Star families
and then publicized the kerfuffle. Now, a lot was made
about how this was beyond the pale, how it was
just another example of Donald Trump breaking the law and YadA, YadA,
YadA YadA. But as week went on, the story came
out that the gold Star families, these are gold Star

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families from the disaster at Abbey Gate where military members
were killed during the absolute disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. That
was the responsibility of the Biden administration, Harris administration at
that time.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
And so as the week went on, the gold Star.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Families actually had a chance to speak and said, look,
we invited him to come there with us to lay
a wreath and visit our family member's graves. We also
invited Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. On Labor Day, you
may have seen the pictures of Joe Biden sitting on
the beach in Delaware, and apparently Kamala Harris was at

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her rather large home in DC because as the current
Vice president in the incumbents office, she has the access
to the vice president's mansion, so she was ten minutes
away but couldn't be bothered to go. And when the
gold Star families came out and said, wait a minute,
we asked him to join us there.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
We took the photos. We wanted photos of him.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
With us at the gravestones of our family members who
paid the ultimate price for this country. They also pointed
out the Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have never called
to extend their condolences directly to the families. Never And
when that stuff started coming out, it got really inconvenient,

(30:29):
and all of a sudden, this story became like Trump
getting shot, you know, a sitting president. Excuse me, a
former president of the United States survived an assassination attempt,
and within two weeks it was consigned to the dustbin
of history. There are probably more news media stories right

(30:52):
now today in news media outlets about the JFK assassination
than there has been the entire time since that point
of the Trump assassination. But this is what the media
is doing, and this is my huge frustration and why
I'm getting more and more confident that voting for Trump
is my only choice because he's not just running against

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Kamala Harris. He's running against the entire media complex who
are doing everything in their power to suppress anything that
could make him look more sympathetic, or make him look
like he got shot at, or make him look like
he was being compassionate with families whose children and brothers

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and sisters were killed because of the incompetence of the
Biden Harris administration.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Right, so.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
The story got blown into something and then you have
to realize, what are we not talking about when we're
talking about stupid nonsense like this, this fabricated outrage on
the left. We're not talking about the fact that the
Harris Walls campaign is a disaster. We're not talking about
the fact that they've issued no policy positions that anyone

(32:04):
is embracing. We're not talking about the fact that they
are the biggest lightweight ticket in the history of tickets.
And that's why we're talking about Trump at Arlington. This
person said from the text line, Yep, the problem I
have is of the photo of the family and Trumps
standing on the graves of veterans smiling and thumbs uping.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Most of us believe this was disgusting.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Disrespectful tone, deaf, idiotic behavior. It's ridiculous that you can't
see that he was standing at the graves of the
fallen service members with the families. I don't know what
they were saying. I don't know what was going on.
I don't know what they were asking for. I don't
know the mood at that moment, and neither do you.
All I know is that a guy running for president

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takes his time out of his day to meet with
families whose children were murdered by the terrorists, that we
left a trillion dollars worth of military equipment with.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
What else do you need to know? And I mean
that genuinely.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I say that as a person who has gone to
or My uncle is buried at Arlington. Chuck has friends
that are buried at Arlington. I understand that sacred ground.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I get it. But what I also understand is.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
That when you are a commander in chief and you
send people into war or you leave them hanging like
they were left hanging in Afghanistan and it gets them killed,
shouldn't you at least make any kind.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Of show to care. Shouldn't you just pretend.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
And instead of pretending, Donald Trump showed up. So we'll
take this net negative and I'm gonna put it in
the net positive. And you need to watch Greg Guttfeld.
I can't play Greg Guttfeld on the radio because he
uses a word that I can't play on the radio,
but apparently you can say on late night TV.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't know, but it's really really good, really really
really good. So yeah, Mandy, you're reporting the kerfuffle incorrectly.
The photography at issue is in an area of sixty
where no photography is allowed. It was not at the
Tomb of the Unknown. Yes, the families asked him to

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be there. They also asked for the photos. And they've
literally come out and said, we asked for the photos, we.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Were given permission.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
So when the people that were there that actually invited
him to come tell me what they were doing, I'm
gonna believe them because if I've learned anything over the
last week is that when the media has decided the narrative,
and by the media, I'm talking about nine News that
I'm talking about NBC and I'm talking about CNN, and
I'm talking about MSNBC, the.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Truth be damned. It doesn't matter if the people that
are involved.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Are telling you exactly what went on, because if it
doesn't fit the narrative, they're just not going to say it.

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Speaker 3 (35:24):
Thing to welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of
the show. I want to give a little context to
something we just talked about, and that is Donald Trump's
visit to Arlington National Cemetery and the way it has
been spun and blown out of proportion. Texter wrote and
said the following, come on, Mandy, this is That's not
the one I'm looking at.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
It was something about the thumbs up in the picture.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Well, going back to the families who invited him, they
said that their loved one, who Donald Trump has listened
to them talk about and learned about. She used to
use the rock on signal, the you know finger pinky out,
middle finger out.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
That was her sign.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
And if you look at those photos, some of the
family members are doing that sign. And they said, if
that wasn't what she was known for. We would have
done a thumbs up as well. They are all smiling
in the photo. They were so grateful that former President
Trump made the time to come to Arlington and spend
time with their family. So the photographs that were shared
were not shared by the campaign. They were shared by

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the governor of Utah, and that's what set this whole
firestorm off. So whatever you think about the Trump campaign,
they didn't share these photos. They were taking pictures that
the families requested.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Do with it what you will.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
But this has much ado about nothing, just to take
your eye off what's really important, like the national debt,
which brings us to our next guest. Maya McGuinness is
president of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget and
she joins me today to talk about one of my
favorite subjects, and that is the national debt.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Maya, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
First of all, thank you, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
So anybody who listens to this show for any length
of time knows that I'm a deficit hawk.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I have long been a deficit hawk.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I am extremely concerned about our national debt and even
more concerned about the fact that our political class doesn't
seem to be concerned at all about the debt.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
So let's start with what is our debt right now,
at this very minute.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
So there's actually two debts out there.

Speaker 7 (37:27):
There's the debt that's held by the public, which is
how much we've borrowed from open markets. That's about twenty
eight trillion dollars. Twenty eight trillion dollars. There's the total debt,
which includes the debt we owe to ourselves because we've
actually borrowed from Social Security and a couple other trust funds.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
That's thirty five trillion dollars.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
The debt held by the public is the one we
usually think about, and what's important to know is how
it is as a share of the economy, and it's
just about to hit one hundred percent, so that the
debt we have borrowed, the debt that the public owes
is as large, which is our entire economy, and that
is close to the record, which was one hundred and
six percent we sent right after World War Two. We're

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going to hit that in about three years, which is
astronomical that we would be doing that without a world war.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
And the thing about that is you knew that the
World War was going to have an end, right, you
knew it was going to come to an end.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
And after the war was.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Over, there was a massive contraction of government spending that
led to a boom in America in the nineteen fifties
when so many families entered the middle class and so
many good things happened. But because we don't have a
quote war to end, there's no end in sight. And
as I said, is there any seriousness in Washington, d c.

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About doing something about the national debt?

Speaker 1 (38:46):
No?

Speaker 7 (38:46):
You are so right, And I love talking to someone
who knows her debt history because right after World War Two,
of course, we brought that debt back down and we
ran budget surpluses, and that was just in a matter
of years.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
On the other hand, where we.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
Are now, we're on track to borrow trillions more over
the next decade. Well over twenty trillion dollars is in place,
even if we don't add more borrowing, which we probably will.
The problem is our politicians are unwilling to talk about
this issue realistically.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
And they're unwilling to do any of the things that
would need be needed to change it. The bottom line
is it's.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
Really hard to fix a fiscal situation that, like the
one we're in, you have to make a number of
hard choices. You're going to have to talk about reducing spending.
You're going to have to fix Social Security and Medicare,
which are both headed towards insolvency. And we're going to
need more revenues. We want to grow the economy as
best as possible, but all of those things are.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
Going to have to be part of it.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Our politicians are so busy fighting with each other and
trying to win elections by pandering that no one's really
coming out and telling the truth. And I think that's
really jeopardizing the health, the strength, even the national security
of our country because we're just sweeping this under the carpet.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Are we close to a debt crisis? And what does
that look like if we are.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
So interesting, because nobody knows when that will happen.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
Certainly, we are already at a point where our debt
is creating much damage, and it's economic in that it's
slowing our economic growth. Our standard of living is already
lower than it would have been if we hadn't borrowed
so much in the past. We are at the point
where our interest payments on our debt single fastest growing
part of the budget and second largest item in the budget,

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larger than national defense, which if that isn't a warning
about how much trouble countries and I don't know what
it is. And it also means that when we have
a next crisis, whether it's a session or a pandemic
or something we don't even know what it might be,
our ability to borrow then, which is when we should borrow,
will be compromised. But I would make the case it's
much worse than that, now that we're starting to see

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that our debt situation is actually undermining our national security
as well as our economic strength, and that our ability
to respond to the crises around the world is compromised
by how we've already borrowed and the fact that we're
dependent on other countries for borrowing.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
So those are the things that are already happening.

Speaker 7 (41:04):
A debt crisis will take place if other countries or
domestic lenders suddenly.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
Say the US has so much debt. I don't I'm
not comfortable with such a low return.

Speaker 7 (41:17):
I want a higher return, which means higher interest rates.
Higher interest rates slow the economy and make our interest
payments higher, which then creates a vicious cycle higher interest payments,
higher interest rates, more that we owe, more that we borrow,
and it tanks your economy in a way that's very
difficult to get out of.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
And when it happens, it happens very quickly.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
And there's really no sign we wanted to study countries
before they got hit with these kinds of crises.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Was anybody warning about it right beforehand?

Speaker 7 (41:45):
And the newspapers are filled with good news, so everything's
fine until suddenly it's not, which is why we really
need to get ahead of this problem before the last minute.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Let's talk about history for a second, because I love
to talk about to follow of the Roman Empire, that's
one of my favorite things to discuss is well, and
it was a debt crisis situation that led to their downfall. Ultimately, historically,
have any nations been able to pull themselves back in
a significant enough way at the beginning of a debt

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crisis to be able to survive, at least economically, I
mean countries.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
They have fiscal turnarounds where they recover over time, but
never without an immense amount of pain. So if you
get to the point where you're in that debt spiral,
the people of that country suffer tremendously. You have hyperinflation,
so anybody who has savings that's basically can be wiped away.
You have massive recessions, and you certainly wore depressions. You generally,

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as if you look back in history, as you are,
lose your standing or role in the world, as the
great nations have many of them have lost their staying
in the world because of over indebtedness. George Washington warned
the country when it was beginning that one of the
biggest risks of one of the biggest risks is an

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overly indebted country. And so no, there haven't been any
countries where they've hit the point where the crisis already
hit them, where they were able to come out of
it without pain. And again, the US has this incredible,
remarkable advantage, which is we are right now the reserve currency.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
It is so much easier for us to handle these situations.

Speaker 7 (43:24):
If we are able to make changes now gradually, modestly,
kind of shared across all parts of the budget, we
can do this without incredible pain for the country. But
if we wait until that crisis starts, that big interest
payments go on, interest rates go up.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
You can't stop it. Then it will be very painful.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
So I want to ask you to maybe take that
out a little bit more in the sense of, you know,
what would the country?

Speaker 4 (43:51):
What would you if you.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Could wave the magic wind and create the policy that
we had to live under in order to bring this
under control? Now, what would that look like? Do you
have any specifics or is it just you know. One
of the things I love about Senator Ran Paul Is
I met him when he was running for office the
first time and he had created a budget that at
the time cut one percent across everything, and he had

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it all lined out and it was the penny plan. Well,
now it would have to be like a nickel or
dime plan. It's gotten that severe since he got elected.
Do you guys have a strategy that you recommend?

Speaker 6 (44:23):
Yeah, we aptleuly do And that's right. The cost of
waiting is immense.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
It goes from very modest changes, particularly in just something
like Social Security by every year we wait to fix
it because it's going to be insolvent within a decade,
which means they'll be huge across the board.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Cuts. An average couple retiring when that happens will.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
Lose sixteen thousand dollars a year because Congress refused to
fix this situation.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
We do have a plan basically at this point, it's
sort of break glass. If there's an emergency, we hope
people will pull it out and use it.

Speaker 12 (44:52):
Well.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Listen, everything is a part of it. So we have
everything on the table. You're going to have to fix
social Security and MEDICA.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Here.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
You have to look at rasy the retirement age because
we're living longer, not for people close to retirement, but
for younger people. We need to slow the growth of
some benefits and social scurity for the people who don't
need them at all, so we can preserve them for
people who do. We're going to need new revenues. But
I would argue let's do it in a way that
help grows the economy by getting rid of as many

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tax breaks, cuts, caps, credits, deductions, exemptions, exclusions as possible,
rather than raising rates. If that's something that we're able
to do, We're going to have to deal with how
to extend the expiring tax cuts next year.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
We're going to have to cap discretionary spending.

Speaker 7 (45:38):
It's like the Penny plan, but you just put in
a cap so it can't grow more than it otherwise would.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
And importantly, we need to look at parts of the budget.

Speaker 7 (45:44):
We should get rid of completely and eliminate some of
the programs that are redundant and overlapping. Education I believe
I don't think we'd spend too much on education necessarily,
but the way we spend it. I believe there's eighty
programs at the federal and state levels which are redundant
and overlapping, which you could streamline for.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
Better targeted spending there. But we have to do it all.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
There's a lot of savings in healthcare and national security,
I should say, but I'm now concerned that a lot
of those national security savings and how we do things inefficiently,
we'll actually have to be plowed back into higher spending
in other parts of defense if things like cybersecurity continue to.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Grow as threats. It's every part of the budget.

Speaker 7 (46:23):
It sounds like, spread their agriculture taxes, it's all there.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Spread the pain basically, like everybody should feel it, everybody.
This is a shared sacrifice situation. Is that kind of
what we're looking at right now?

Speaker 7 (46:35):
I think that's politically yeah, I think that's the politically
fair way to do it. Nobody's gonna like a deficit
reduction plan, but nobody should say, like, you know, I'm
not a part of that. It's something that we all
got ourselves into this problem. Both parties did, many generations did.
We're all going to have to fix it. It's going
to have to be a compromise, which I acknowledge our

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politicians don't do very well right now, but there's have
to be something that everybody's a part of.

Speaker 6 (47:02):
So we're politically in it together. But also the problem
is so large.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
You need about seven trillion dollars of savings of over
ten years just to keep the debt from growing. You'd
need maybe seventeen trillion to bounce a budget that's not
even going to happen. I think the most important thing
is we stop pretending that we can have spending increases
that we don't pay for or tax cuts that we
don't offset with lower spending. We start getting real about this,

(47:27):
and we put together a debt deal. If we can't
do it the way I just said with those specifics,
which I know everybody's like ooh.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Ooh, I don't want to do that. I don't want
to do. That's not very fun.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
We could also put in place of fiscal Commission, which
would help insulate some of the really tough politics of
these tough choices, where members would work together for a
year or so to figure out exactly where those compromises
are between the different points of view that exists.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
One of the things that I think has to be
addressed is that we have over the last thirty to
forty years taken a lot of people off the tax
rolls entirely.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
And we have a lot of people and.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I'm not saying that you know, we've got we're going
to get out of this on the backs of people
at the lower socioeconomic level. But when people don't pay
into the system and they don't feel any personal point
personal points of pain, they are far more likely to
vote for people who are promising to give them twenty
five thousand dollars for a first time home buyer. And

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they're far more likely to vote for big spending ideas
and big spending plans because they're not on the hook.
But is that even politically possible to say we need
to have a more shared responsibility Because everybody loves to
talk about paying their fair share. But they're only talking
about the richest of the rich. They're not talking about
people that are literally getting money back and not participating

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at all.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
Yeah, that goes right into one of my biggest pet peeves,
which is how politicians spend these political miss out there
and try to make it look like what they're talking
about is so easy. So there's definitely a problem of
people who aren't any of the responsibility of government.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
It seems to be free, always wanting more.

Speaker 7 (49:04):
That happens when some people don't pay any taxes, though
many people pay payroll taxes even if not income. And
it also happens when you deficit finance. If you're borrowing,
seems to be free, even though what you're doing is
you're passing that bill on to the kids. But I
do worry about when people say, don't worry about it,
We're going to have the millionaires and billionaires pay for this.
There's just not enough money there. And I also worry

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about it when people say, I promise never to I
promise never to raise taxes. Because we looked at that
and it turns out over ninety percent of people who
promised never to raise taxes did raise spending and.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Which really right. Isn't that a little tricky?

Speaker 7 (49:42):
So what you really want is people say, I promise
no new debt, I promise not to increase the debt.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
That would be a political promise from politicians that would
be useful.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
But I really agree with you that when people think
something is free there's no cost to it, of course
they want more.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
And I think deficit financing is the biggest problem that
causes that.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
One of the things that I find very upsetting is
that the level of just basic economic understanding is so
low for the average American that when we start talking
about the things we're talking about, we're talking about debt, service,
and we're talking about you know, Medicare and social security,
everybody seems to drop back into their well, you can't
touch my social security, you can't touch my Medicare, you

(50:25):
can't touch my whatever. And until we have that true
shared sense of responsibility and start making these changes so
everybody recognizes why this is important, because you know, the
Dark Ages happened after.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
The fall of the Roman Empire.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
They called them the Dark Ages for a reason, right,
And it's not just about us being the world's reserve currency.
It's about us being a geopolitical leader and projecting strength,
and if we bankrupt ourselves, those projections are all paper tigers.

Speaker 7 (50:54):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that we should be
so naive. It's to not think that our rivals around
the world aren't cheering us on to borrow more and more.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Right, that is one of the things that absolutely weakens us.

Speaker 7 (51:04):
And we don't come from a position of strength or
preparedness or versatility, like the ability to respond to different
things when our physical foundation is so weak, and it's
really hard for us to kind of wag our finger
and tell other countries how to act when we're not
willing to do it. I also think our politicians, I mean,

(51:26):
you know, I'm deeply independent, and I think that there
is great things about both parties, and I also think
there's huge fiscal recklessness in both parties. And what you
have right now is both parties selling peddling these free lunches.
Are leading candidates promising not to fix Social Security and Medicare,
which is the.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
Worst thing you could do for current retirees.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
Current retirees should be really concerned when they hear that promise,
because they will have benefit cuts in nine years. They
if those candidates keep their promises of not touching anything,
and you have them all kind of making up stories
don't worry, we can print money, or don't worry, tax
cuts could just pay for themselves, And none of these
are true. The bottom line is if you want a budget,

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if something's worth doing, you have to pay for it.
And we're going to have to come to terms with
all the borrowing of the past and figure out a
way to get it under control. And it is so
past partisanship and pointing fingers, but we are in a
very polarized moment where it's hard to have people talking
about the things you're saying, like there's some really hard
choices out there that have.

Speaker 11 (52:27):
To be made.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Maya McGuinness is my guest.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
She is the president for the Committee for a Responsible
Federal Budget. That's like the most boring sounding name ever, though, Maya,
it's just so you know, it is the commite for
a Responsible Federal Budget. But I am so grateful that
you guys are out there and you're sounding the alarm
because I mean, I have a fifteen year old daughter.
I have grandkids already, not for my fifteen year old daughter,

(52:52):
just to be clear, but I have great kids, and
I worry about.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
This a ton.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
This is the kind of stuff that keeps me up
at night. What we're leaving for these young people who
think they think they have it hard. Now they have
no idea what's possible, how bad things can get if
we don't take care of this.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
It worries me so much, and in particular because I
think they're facing a very difficult world out there. There's
so many challenges that are bigger than we've been able
to grapple with, and our over indebtedness not only is
a huge problem for them, it makes there it compromises
their ability to solve every one of those other problems.
We are not leaving them a budget or the flexibility

(53:34):
strength to compete and deal with all of the challenges
that they have on top of these huge interest payments
in this national debt.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
So I agree with you on that. Unfortunately, I also
agree with you that we have like the worst name.
No one can remember it. Our acronym is PERFA.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I know it's bad, but it's very clear.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
Also a lap line because there is no responsible budget.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
But I'll tell you what the work is fascinating and
talk with people who care about the issue and trying
to get people more engaged and tell their politicians, like,
don't pander to me. We're grown ups here. We actually
want to do right by our kids and grandkids. Don't
pander to me. Tell me how we're going to fix this.
And that's what we like to hear when people are
talking about.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
I appreciate my game and all. Yeah, I appreciate your
time so much. I'm sure we'll talk again in the future.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Love too, all right, That.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Is maya mcginnish and yeah, I mean we have to
have And this is my big negative nelly thing that
I am very, very very dour about. I am extremely
concerned that the United States of America is headed for
the end of all great empires, just like they all do,

(54:45):
because we spend ourselves into oblivion and we have all
of these politicians. I don't know if they're just ignorant
about everything we just talked about and what's coming. It
is a normalcy bias to think that it can happen here.
We're two special we're the chosen ones. This nation is

(55:05):
better than every nation before. That can't possibly happen to us.
That is just hubris, and it's the kind of Hubris,
that is going to leave a world for our children
and grandchildren that we won't even recognize.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
And I, you know, I try not to talk about
all this because I this.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Is the reason that I told my daughter, I want
you to be comfortable living in another country. I want
you to be comfortable traveling because if at some point
the United States of America craters and it can, I
want her to feel comfortable moving to somewhere that hasn't.
And it's also why I fight so hard against these

(55:41):
big government politicians. And in the case of Trump and
Kamala Harris, it's ointment or suppositories economically, but at least
Donald Trump has some economic advisors who are trying to
steer him in the right direction. Whether it listen, I
don't know. But Kamala Harris doesn't even have that. Now
I've got another interview with another very impressive woman. Jennifer

(56:02):
Say was an executive at Levi's after a long career
as a gymnast and other things. When she decided to
speak up against the COVID mandates that kept kids out
of school and the damage that those mandates did. It
created a huge problem for her at Levi's and now
she has gone her own way and has created a
fantastic sportswear company all of her own because she wasn't

(56:26):
going to be silenced when it came to talking about
protecting our kids. And she is going to be doing
that very thing at a rally coming up October fifth
at ten am at the Capitol Building in Denver. Obviously
it's with gays against groomers. It's the Stop the War
on Children rally. And Jennifer say, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 13 (56:49):
I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
I want to ask you, as a former gymnast and
as a former competitor, you feel a special sort of
agency when we talk about man women's sports and men
and women's spaces. I mean, do you take that kind
of personally?

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Well, I think what I take personally is.

Speaker 13 (57:11):
The desire to protect female athletes, and I have been
standing up for female athletes for almost twenty years.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I was the very first.

Speaker 13 (57:19):
Gymnast to call out the abuse happening that was happening
and is still happening in the sport, the emotional, physical,
and sexual abuse happening in the sport. You know, I
was vilified for it at the time when I wrote
my first book in two thousand and eight, but of
course then the Larry Nacer case happened ten years later,
and everybody came around to what I had been saying.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
And so I feel like this is an extension of that.

Speaker 13 (57:43):
I was a young athlete for many years, competing at
the highest level, I was not protected by the governing bodies.
The governing bodies will not do the right thing until
they are forced to. They allowed abuse to go unchecked
for five decades in gymnastics, and I feel that they
are equally neglectful when it comes to protecting female athletes

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from males entering their sports and spaces.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Women deserve women and girls deserve safety, privacy.

Speaker 13 (58:11):
And fairness, period and they're not getting it because of
work politics.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
It seems absurd that after all of the fights to
get Title nine in place, to protect women's sports, to
give them opportunities at the college level and at the
high school level where they were going to be able
to compete with other women, that we are now having
a conversation that you and I are vilified for saying
women deserve their own spaces and someone who was born

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a male who has gone through puberty should not be
competing with physical females because of the physical advantage. I
sometimes I think, are we crazy town? Are we an
upside down world?

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I mean, could you have even imagined this as you
were talking about abuse?

Speaker 10 (58:57):
No?

Speaker 6 (58:58):
No, And it's the last which I used to be
a part of. But the left is gone and sanging
on this particular issue.

Speaker 13 (59:06):
And suddenly a woman or a girl is anyone who
says they're a woman or a girl and it's just
playing me to tell them they aren't.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
Well they aren't.

Speaker 13 (59:14):
And girls and women deserve their own.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
Sports and spaces.

Speaker 13 (59:17):
They deserve privacy, safety and fairness. Let me can I
tell you a very quick story about I was at
my daughter's soccer practice last night. My daughter was seven
years old. She plays on an all girls' soccer team.
It's a pretty recreate. It's like one tiny half step
up from wreck.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
You know, she's little.

Speaker 13 (59:33):
She wore a T shirt from my brand that said
xxx y Athletics on it last night at the practice.
And someone who I've known for a couple of years,
friendly parent at the soccer game, always been nice. I'm
always nice and friendly. She came up to me at
the end of practice and I was like, oh, no,

(59:53):
here we go, here we go, it's going to happen.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
I could see it from the look on her face.

Speaker 13 (59:58):
And she said, I don't know if you you know
what Ruth's shirt Ruth is my daughter's name, what her
shirt means. And I didn't reveal to her that it
was my brand, and of course I know what it means.
I said, yes, I know what it means. It's very
important for me.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
To protect girls' sports. I think it's really important.

Speaker 13 (01:00:14):
And then she kind of, you know, went to you know,
went down this whole rabbit hole about emotional safety and
how we both agree on protecting girls, but she wants
to protect all girls, and in her mind, all girls
as anyone who says they're a girl. And I said,
I was an elite athlete. I feel very strongly about

(01:00:34):
protecting women's sports and opportunities as being for XX only,
XX chromosomes only. So her primary beef with me and I,
of course, was very common. I'll tell you, even as
someone who's very outspoken on this issue, there were moments
where I wanted to just shrink and run away, like
it's very different to have a conversation with someone in person.
But I forced myself to stay calm and kind, but

(01:00:57):
also firm, and I resent. You know, what she asked
of me at the end, and we clearly didn't agree,
was that my daughter just not wear the shirt to practice.
And I did not agree to that. Because here's the thing.
We can't be silent. They're telling us that even raising
this issue in the most rational, calm way is.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
To me, it's hate speech. It's harmful to people. Well,
I'm sorry. I care about the girls that are.

Speaker 13 (01:01:27):
Being harmed by competing against male athletes. I care about
Peyton McNabb, the volleyball player in North Carolina who has
a permanent brain injury now and has cognitive issues because
she was spiked with the ball in the head by.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
A male player. And I raised that with this woman,
who is very nice, and.

Speaker 13 (01:01:45):
She seemed more concerned about this supposed emotional harm than
the actual physical harm that I was talking about. And
so it comes down, you know what, to what I
would call corruption of our language. And for too long,
I think we allowed for it to happen. We were
being nice and if they wanted trans women to be
called women, you know, we kind of went along. Well,

(01:02:06):
once you concede that point that trans women are women,
then you cannot say they cannot compete in women's sports.
And that's what was kind of the conflict in this
conversation last night, because she kept saying, well, I want
to support and protect all girls and all women, and
what she was including in all girls and all.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Women were x Y.

Speaker 13 (01:02:24):
So I just we have to draw really firm line
in the sand here and not I can't be nice anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
And if it's mean and it's hate speech.

Speaker 13 (01:02:34):
To say that trans women are men, trans women are male,
they cannot compete in women's sports, I will do it nicely.
I will never use, you know, harsh language, but I
will speak the truth and I won't give an inch
on the language.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
I agree that you know, there's an old adage, he
who controls the language controls the world, because when someone
forces you to change the way you're speaking, they're trying
to change the way you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
That's the old goal. And for the women you talked to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Last night, perfect example, I know that when she was
a child, it never occurred to her that a boy
could say he was a girl, and all of a sudden,
you're going to put him in pigtails and call him
a girl.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
But yet here we are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
And because nice kind people don't want to be thought
of as anything other than nice kind people, they're going
to express those concerns for people's feelings right over the
concerns and feelings of all the other girls, the XX girls.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
And that is what I don't get.

Speaker 13 (01:03:31):
Well, and I think the thing that's so there's so
many things that are disturbing about this. You know, my
brand has been permanently suspended from TikTok. And in a
recent conversation that I had with some of the folks
at TikTok, they were very explicit and clear with me
that the reason we were banned is there's a line
in our ad that says, if you think it isn't
fair or safe for males to compete in girls sports,

(01:03:53):
They said that that was misgendering because we said that
we were implying that a group was male that was
not now because they're trans what you get by points,
so we were misgendering and therefore.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
It's hate speech. So what is so upsetting about this?

Speaker 13 (01:04:12):
And it's very much in line with the conversation I
had last night. It's this idea of harm from language
and if it's determined to be hate speech, and you
can't say it, and my daughter can't wear the shirt
because it's hate speech and it's harmful. I don't think
anybody who's harmed at soccer practice last night. Then it
erases the issue, it takes away because you're right. If

(01:04:32):
you change the language, you change the way we think
and talk about things. So I'm not allowed to even
clearly talk about the issue on TikTok, supposedly not supposed
to have my daughter wear the shirt that you know
is about the issue that provokes conversations, often very positive conversations,
and so it sort of disappears the issue. These people
are women, These people are girls. Of course they can

(01:04:54):
compete with girls. What are you even talking about? If
you say anything else it's hate speech? Well, I'm sorry,
I am done with their rules. We were foolish to
give an inch, and I'm sure at some point I
gave an inch.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
And you just you can't.

Speaker 13 (01:05:08):
And again, I'm never going to be rude or mean,
but I am going to hold a line and I
am going to wear the shirt at every soccer game.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
And this is why try to kick us out, and
this is why Jennifer Say is going to be speaking
at the Gaze Against Greamers Stop the War on Children
rally happening October fifth at ten a m.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
You are, this is a great lineup of speakers that you're.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Going to be speaking with, and I'm glad that you
guys and Gays against Groomers are are continuing to drive
this conversation. And Jennifer, I just I you know, I
love that you are so open about your evolution from
being one of those people that kind of got caught
in the group think when you were at Levi's, and

(01:05:51):
then when you started asking questions, it became a parent
that more questions needed to be asked. And I commend
you for continuing to ask those questions because.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
It's hard to do what you did.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
It's hard to say I'm no longer going to be
in the same social circles, the same professional circles. What
you did was it was a large degree of personal sacrifice,
and I just want to say I appreciate that, and
every parent who thinks the way you think, we appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
We appreciate you putting.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Yourself out there on behalf of all the kids who
just want to play sports and just want to compete
in a way that they may be able to win
if they work hard enough at it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
I mean I competed as an elite athlete. I lost
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
You do.

Speaker 13 (01:06:31):
You lose more than you win, and I can always
accept losing.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
I learned to lose. I learned resilience, I learned to
keep trying. It was a fair fight. I don't think I.

Speaker 13 (01:06:39):
Could have accepted losing against someone that was using steroids,
for instance, which we all accept.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Is not fair.

Speaker 13 (01:06:46):
And you know, sex provides greater advantage athletic advantage than
a drug. It's a bigger difference in performance male versus
female than male on steroids versus male on steroid. So
I just want I want my daughter to have every
opportunity I had afforded to me through title mind and

(01:07:07):
that feels very much at risk to me. And this
is not I know, it's become political and my view
is coded as very right wing.

Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
This is just about truth. It should not be right
versus left. We need to make this about what is true.
Biology is real.

Speaker 13 (01:07:21):
Sex is binary. Men cannot become women and girls and
women deserve safety, privacy, and fairness.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
It's really that simple.

Speaker 13 (01:07:29):
And unless we make it about the truth, I fear
we'll never get There's a large percentage of Democrats that
agree with us.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
I have seen that A graid to say it out loud.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Yeah, well, you're giving them the opportunity we need them.
And Jennifer, this rally is going to be incredible. I
look forward to seeing you and seeing everybody speak. And
thank you so much for making time for us.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
All right, that's Jennifer say, and we're going to be
right back, really good, back to back, awesome guests.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
So we have property tax certainty for six years. What
does that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Well, yesterday Governor Jerry Polis signed the new old dag nabbitt.
Hey hate it when I hit log in or never mind.
So yesterday the ballot initiatives were rescinded and Governor Jerry
Polis signed the property tax compromise into law. And what

(01:08:31):
is the six years that I'm talking about? Well, part
of the deal between Advanced Colorado and Colorado Concern and
the legislature, and those two organizations were the ones that
were sponsoring Proposition fifty and Proposition one oh eight, which
would have cut property taxes deeper and in a more
sledgehammer kind of way than the compromise that was just

(01:08:53):
agreed upon at the Capitol.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
So the governor signs it into law, they.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Pull those ballot initiatives with a promise that they will
not run another property tax initiative for the next six years.
And that, of course is predicated on the notion that
the legislature won't go back and try to fix this
or change it from this point forward.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
One of the things I love about this entire.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Property tax thing is how salty the Democrats are that
they had to actually listen to the people.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Super mad how.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Speaker Julia McCluskey said it was unfortunate that lawmakers had
to play defense and provide additional relief because wealthy interests
brought forth the ballot measures. Guess what, lady, The hundreds
of thousands of people in Colorado that sign those petitions,
they are not wealthy interests. There are people who got
crushed by property taxes. When you guys in the legislature

(01:09:50):
told people to repeal Gallagher and that you would fix it,
and you didn't. That's what happened here. Let's be clear,
Advanced Colorado and and Colorado concern. They did the heavy
lift for the rest of us. All we had to
do was sign petitions. So for the next six years
we have some property tax certainty. So hey, enjoy it, folks,

(01:10:13):
enjoy it. It's going to be really really cool. On
the blog today, I have a video from CNN and
it's with Kevin O'Leary.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
From Shark Tank. Do you watch Shark Tank? Hey, Rod,
do you ever watched it?

Speaker 11 (01:10:24):
You watched it?

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
I love Sark So Kevin O'Leary, you know who he is,
Mister wonderful, mister wonderful but also nice, weird.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
He's a jerk because he tells the truth. He's not
a jerk doing like mean things. He's just brutally honest
sometimes like it's not gonna work. I am basically like,
you didn't solve.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
A problem I have.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
But on CNN he went at length in this clip
about why he doesn't put companies in New York anymore
or New Jersey or California. And if you listen to
the whole thing, you will see that between our regulatory state,
our tax is going up up. Colorado is headed in
this very same direction. It should be a warning to

(01:11:06):
us all. Now, when we get back, I've got so
much stuff on the blog that I haven't gotten to today,
but I really kind of want to talk about this
one story that I know very little about.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Hey, Ron, do you play first person shooter games?

Speaker 12 (01:11:17):
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Speaker 11 (01:11:18):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Have you ever did you hear about the game Concord?

Speaker 11 (01:11:23):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Well, I'll tell you why when we get back.

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Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
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Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
It's just it gets in your brain and you'll be
seeing it in the middle of It's not quite that
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I gotta get some people registered for a pair of
season tickets to see the Broncos real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
How about this caller number? What Anthony three?

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Who can tell us any of the new captains of
the Denver Broncos that were just named three O three
seven one, three eighty five eighty five. You're gonna get
registered to win a pair of Broncos season tickets that
we're giving away at the end of this week.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
So that's gonna be exciting. You're doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Also as the producer of the Roskaminski Show.

Speaker 11 (01:12:36):
Oh dang it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
If I am, I can't enter in for those seasons
and you cannot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
I've tried multiple times and they keep like, we recognize
your voice many we know it's you chuk. Anyway, I
asked Dragon to come in because if you've been waffling,
if you've been thinking about maybe going on our Japan
and South Korea trip next year on the Mandy Connell Adventure,
I have another thing to woo you already already. It's

(01:12:59):
gonna be the absolute most insane trip. We're going into
South Korea. We're hopping on a cruise ship. We're going
to Jaju Island, and we're sailing around the country of Japan,
stopping at all of these different cultural touch points. We're
gonna spend two days in Kyoto with seventeen World UNESCO
Heritage sites. It is going to be an absolute cultural extravaganza.
And now Dragon and Missus Redbeard will be there with

(01:13:23):
us as well.

Speaker 14 (01:13:23):
Mount Fuji sold it for me we're going. It's like, yeah,
it looked it's so beautiful. Anytime you look at it,
you just see it and it's like, this is amazing.
It looks so fantastic. The thing that sold it for
my wife is the Lava Tube Cave.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Expl my Lava Tube Cave and Jju Island that you
can go on a tour there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
But this is something because when I announced the trip,
Dragon literally looked at me away.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
We're just talking about it, talking about three weeks before.

Speaker 14 (01:13:52):
It's like, hey, we gonna be really cool to do
a Japan trip one of these days. Maybe we'll think
about doing it in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
What what? What?

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Yeah, there we go and you've been on one of
the cruise and to our adventures. You went to Egypt
with Ross and it.

Speaker 14 (01:14:04):
Was absolutely fantastic. Every time it's done for you, you
just have to show up and enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
It's so good and everything is like fancy and it's
nice and you don't have to worry about things like
AirPair transfers and all that stuff. What is it about
Japan other than you guys are actually gonna stay a
little longer and go to Tokyo Disneyland.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Yeah, my wife's a little spoiled. She's a Disney princess, so.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
She has to if we're closer, she just gonna wear
for the day.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Is she gonna go as like? You know, who is
her Disney princess? Donald Duck. That's not a Disney princess.
I mean I realized we live in a world when
people like to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
You that ducks can be male or female, but a
talking duck can.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Only be male. Malana Rapunzel I love was one of
my favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Abell really, Rapunzel is my favorite. Tangled is one of
my favorites.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Little Lizard Pascal.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Of course, great songs, great show, all of it. Somebody
just said worst opening song ever. Obviously you've never you
get the biscuits out of your ears?

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Text her, It's okay to be just wrong. Yeah exactly.
So what is it about the for me? I am
not gonna lie. I am looking forward to the food.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I love learning about a culture through their food, and
we get this very sort of narrow view of Japanese food.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Everybody's like, oh, sushi, the American I is Japanese food.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
So I want to experience real Japanese food. Korean food
is my absolute favorite. So starting in South Korea, we're
actually going a couple days early so we can go
visit the DMZ.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Nice little fun fact there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
We're gonna do that and go visit the DMZ and
eat a bunch of Korean food on the street. But
what is it about Japan that made you guys say
we really want.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
To go there? Culture's always big.

Speaker 14 (01:15:45):
The architecture, the buildings with little flares out on the
roofs that just look so beautiful to me.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I think they have the fancier like the pagodas. Is
that what you're talking about?

Speaker 14 (01:15:52):
Yeah, I think yeah. I can't recall us to what
they would be called, but yeah, that kind of thing is.
And just being able to see those historical sites it's
like Hiroshima and Nagasaki and of course Mount Fuji and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
So that that's just I can't wait, and I'm super
excited you guys are going with us.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
It's going to be a great trip.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
We already have like super good returning travelers, so I
already know them, I've already vetted them. They're all good
and it's going to be a lot of fun. Climb
Mount Fuji, says this Texter. Lots of scree on the
way down. Scree is not fun. I don't like screez.
Screeze like loose rocks.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
I don't like that, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
It is exciting that Dragon and missus Red Beard are
going on the Japan trip. We're ready and looking forward
to it, so they're obviously going with us.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
So there you go.

Speaker 14 (01:16:36):
I think I read something recently too that women weren't
allowed to be on Mount Fuji. I'm sorry, what the
well up until like one hundred or so years ago?

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Okay, okay, So that's that's kind of fascinating. I think, well,
it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
A shocking I mean, that's it's a very patriarchal society
in Japan. So you know, I'm looking forward to experiencing
the sort of cultural touchstones. I want to learn more
about Geisha culture. I want to learn more about this
sort of Japanese culture that's been around for thousands of years,
and now we can learn together Dragon, you and me.
I'm super good, Chuck, I'm amazing, cannot wait. Didn't Daisy

(01:17:10):
Duck talk?

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Yes, Daisy?

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Did I misspoke when I said Daisy couldn't be a female,
the talking duck. Of course, that's it. Mandy's so excited
to meet Dragon on the Japan trip. He is hilarious
with Michael Brown, Cyndi and Yep, they're awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
You're gonna love Cyndia. It's gonna be a fun trip.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
If you want to go with us now that Dragon's going,
if you were just like I kind of want to go,
but I don't know if Mandy calls enough of a
draw or Japan or South Korea. Well, now you've got
Dragon red Beard to go with you as well, to be.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Honest, so the fun one is missus Redbeard. She's talking
about Chuck.

Speaker 14 (01:17:41):
Yeah, because I'm pretty boring, way more entertaining than I am.
Like when we're on air, we have to be on
but we're still ourselves, but when we're off air, we're tired.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
You's got nothing wrong, Yeah, Like, I just want to
hear more about you. I don't want to talk about me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
I'm boring exactly. I know about me anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Well, thank you for coming in, Drag And I'm super
excited because this is like a big deal for you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
You know this is I'm glad that there was some
back and forth between Dragon and missus red beer for
the last few days.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Let's just say, and I'm not just saying I leaned
on him. I'm just saying I strongly recommended that they
not missed the trip.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
She used car salesman me, I did it worked?

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
I mean, are you gonna be happy when we're on
this trip and you're not going to feel those days?

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
How gonna feel about that? Mandy? That listener is wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
I look forward to your intro every day. See there
you go, Mandy call bs. Dragon is gonna be. Dragon
is going to the anime babes that make him think
the wrong thing.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Are you an anime guy? No, I'm not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Pomon His anime is Americanized anime. Anime is weird with
the big eyes and everything.

Speaker 11 (01:18:49):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
I don't get it anyway, Mandy, get real kimchi. I
do all the time, and we all smell it to
we have kimchi.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
I can't wait. Do you like Korean food? Yes? I
love Korean.

Speaker 14 (01:19:01):
My mother in law step mother in law is Korean
fun soul, South Korea. So going there and just being
visiting that area for.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
The Korean barbecue on a Thursday night, of last week
or whatever, and I ate myself, silly good, can't wait?
All right, we're going to do this.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
Take a quick time out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
I did not mean to take up that whole segment
because I want to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
This video game. Do you play video games occasionally? Do
you play first person shooter games? I sometimes you've heard about.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
This Sony launch of Concord. They heard of Oh, this
story is fantastic, a perfect example of go woke and
go broke.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
I'll explain after this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
I don't even play video games, but I kind of
love this story.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
For so many reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
So there was a new first person shooter game developed
by Sony called Concord. Sony spent one hundred and fifty
million dollars developing this video game. Now, if you're like me,
in the last video game you played the any regularity
was Pitfall back in the day, you really should click

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through and watch the trailer for this thing. It is
like a super high level animated film, and it's obviously
designed to become an internet excuse me, an intellectual property
item that Hollywood will then want to make a big
blockbuster out of, because that's that's what Hollywood is doing.

Speaker 8 (01:20:24):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
If you don't already have an.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Established intellectual property item. They don't want to talk to
you about making a movie, right, they just don't. So
this this visually, it's beautiful, but unfortunately for Sony, who
spent one hundred and fifty million dollars on this video game,
they decided to make it a super woke video game. Now,

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I know that I want to go to a DEI
seminar and then shoot things, but in the video game,
that's not winning, and it's so bad, so bad that
less than two weeks after it's August twenty third launch,
Sony has pulled the game from the market and they're.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Even refunding the money for.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
People who bought the game in the first place. Now,
just to give you an idea of how woke this is,
and I tried to find more examples, but apparently it
was marketed as being super diverse and equitable and inclusive,
which we all know are code words for they're gonna
slam me over the head with it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
And all of the characters that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Are in this game they have their pronouns under their name,
because I know that when I'm playing a first person
shooter game, which, by the way, I've never actually done.
The first thing I would want to know is the
pronouns of the people I'm about to kill. The game
has never had as many users at the same time,
which is how you measure. One of the metrics of

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how successful an online game is is how many players
you have playing at one given time. It never broke
a thousand, which apparently is super super pathetic. Now lots
of people are out there saying, hey, you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Know what this costs forty bucks a game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Most of these games are free, but other games that
have a steep price.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
But are good have done just fine.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
What's really telling is that Sony, instead of leaving the
game out there, maybe taking it to a free mode,
figuring out tweaking, changing the storylines, making it better as
it goes, because that happens a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
I guess in these games.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
For what I've learned today is that now Sony is
just They're not even trying to salvage it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
They're just ditching it. And I think this is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
When is Hollywood going to learn We don't want it
shoved down our throats. We don't want to be preached to,
we don't want to be told that we're bad people
because we don't believe exactly what the people in Hollywood
or game development are telling us.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
We should believe.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
You know, why people play video games because they're fine,
and they play them because they're a great distraction from
whatever things are going on in their lives, like politics.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
That's why people play video games.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
It's why people watch movies and why people watch Star
Wars franchise, not so they can be told by lesbian
space witches that all men are bad. By the way,
sad news, the Acolyte has been canceled.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
You can hear that. One person sobbing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
This texterter said, Manda, you have no idea how contentious
gaming and wokeness has become.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
My son sends me YouTube videos on all the huha.
The funniest thing is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
This Concord game is making the trans bully community lose
their minds. Good, excellent, fantastic. I just find this really
interesting that an industry whose sole job used to be
making money and how they made money was to make

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quality con that people wanted to go see. But I
don't know, ten, fifteen, twenty years ago they started giving
oscars to mediocre movies. But they had the right political
message right, and all of a sudden, Hollywood was like,
you know what, we don't have enough trans African American
immigrants with one leg in every movie.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
It's time to broaden the base.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
I mean, it's one thing to put a character into
a script when it makes sense, but just a random
will make everybody gay or lesbians or whatever, just because
that's the message you're trying to give to a fan
base who has proved time and time.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Again they don't give a crap.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
It just seems like all of these people are making
really bad movies and they're then standing around and patting
themselves on the back for making the bad movies. Does
anybody get fired at Sony for wasting one hundred and
fifty million dollars on a video game no one wants
to play.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
I'd love to know. But I think when you're the
right kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
It's like a little shield of protection that protects you
from the repercussions of your own stupidity.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
When we get back Bernadette.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
If you're listening, John Fabricatory coming up next. He's running
for the sixth congressional district, and you're gonna want to
hear what he has to say. As a former ice
guy himself. We'll be right back, Bernadette. I hope you're
listening out there, because I tried to find the lovely
letter you sent me asking me to have John Fabricatory
on the show because it was important that he beat

(01:25:30):
Jason Crowe in the sixth congressional district and Bernadette wanted
to make sure that I got him on. And here
he is, John Fabricatory, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 11 (01:25:40):
Hey, I appreciate being on and thank you, Bernadette, thanks
for talking about me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Now is your mom's name, Bernadette, I'm you're just curious.
I just want to clarify that right now.

Speaker 11 (01:25:49):
No, no, no, no, my mom's a Jeannette.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
There you go. That'll work too, John. I want to
allow you to sort of introduce yourself to some of
my listeners, just in case everybody doesn't know who you are,
and then we'll jump right into some of the issues.
Tell me and my listeners a little bit about you
and why you decided to run in the sixth congressional race.

Speaker 11 (01:26:10):
Yes, I'll just give you the quick background. So I'm
a United States Air Force veteran. Joined the Air Force
right out of high school, became a federal agent in
the middle nineties. Started out with Federal Protective Service, then
went over to Immigration Nationalization Service, and then wound up
with ICE. For the last twenty three years in my career.
Did everything I could in ICE, was a deputy chief
of Staff down at the border, supervised the fugitive operations teams,

(01:26:33):
and then retired as the director of all of Colorado
and Wyoming in twenty twenty two. Got home after retirement,
thought I was just gonna hunt and fish and kind
of hang out, and decided I couldn't do that. Our
country is, you know, too many things going on in
this country right now. The border's wide open, and I
decided that I would try to make this congressional run
so that I could win the seat in the sixth
Congressional district and actually get some stuff done in Congress.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
So obviously the border is a big issue and one
very knowledgeable about. So let's talk for a second about
that now. As one of four hundred and thirty five
in Congress, what would you like to see happen in
terms of border security?

Speaker 11 (01:27:12):
Well, I think number one, we just need to look
at the Immigration Nationality Act and actually enforce it. That
the problem is, we've got some great laws on the books,
we just have presidents that refuse to enforce them. Now
Donald Trump tried, he got sued multiple times, tried every
time he tried to enforce some of those laws. And
then we have, you know, the Biden Harris administration, who
refuses to enforce anything, wants an open border. That the

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day Biden became president, he tried to do one hundred
day moratorium on deportations. And we see where we are now,
we're four years down the road. We've got multiples of
multiples of people who have come into this country for
nefarious reasons along with the good migrants. You know, we
do have good immigrants that come into this country to
work and you know, to become United States citizens. But
we've had a lot of illegal aliens across that border.

(01:27:57):
They're not vetted, they're winding up in these unities and
they're committing crimes.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Let's just jump to Aurora for just a second.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
In the last four days, this story out of Aurora
has gone from the governor saying that this situation was
Danielle Drinsky's imagination to now we know that a report
that was filed by a very prominent law firm here
shows that these apartment complexes, at least one of them
has been taken over by Venezuelan gangs. And you can,

(01:28:25):
you cannot, you cannot deny the connection between what we're
talking about at the border and what's happening at Aurora.

Speaker 11 (01:28:33):
Yeah, absolutely, you cannot deny it. I mean, when you
see what's coming across the boarder, you see who the
Border patrol has arrested, I mean the border patrols. The
Border Patrol has arrested sixty identified frend Aragua gang members
since the beginning of the fiscal year. So they are
they're identifying and come across the border, they are arresting them,
but there's lots of guideaways that get away and then
get into our communities. And with the with the with

(01:28:54):
the governor saying what he said that it's you know,
people's imagination, that's Danielle Jirinsky's imagination. Councilwoman Jerinsky has been
at the forefront of this since the beginning, trying to
raise the community's idea of exactly what's going on. All
she's been doing is telling the truth. And then you've
got a governor that's trying to hide it. And you
know what, now, I've been amplifying Danielle's message, you know,

(01:29:16):
through the things that I know and through information I'm
getting from federal agents and other officers. And we still
have some media establishments that are out there trying to
get around the truth and say that we're lying.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Well, the truth is harder and harder to deny. But
it can't just be the border issues that made you
want to run for Congress. What other things do you
see on the horizon that have you concerned.

Speaker 11 (01:29:40):
There's a lot of our economy. It's our economy something
that I talk about with people, you know, every day
when I'm when I'm outdoor knocking and I'm out meeting people,
they want to talk about the economy. It's really the
number one issue. We need to bring jobs back to
the United States. We may we need to make sure
that we can manufacture every single thing that we need.
During COVID, we saw that we didn't have redundant see
in this country, that when we needed something, we needed

(01:30:02):
to go to other countries to get it. We needed
to go to China for medical supplies. We should never
do that as a country. And I'm not saying we
ramp everything up so that you know, it's where we're
making billions of something. But we we have to have
the aperture where we have something and then we can
build upon it in a national emergency and by you know,
providing you know, tax breaks for small businesses like that,

(01:30:25):
so that we always have those products in the US,
I think we can build upon building up our economy
and making sure that we're strong.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
So earlier in the show, I had a long conversation
with a woman named Maya McGuinness. She's with the Center
for Responsible Budgets. I wait, it's a horrible name. It's
a horrible name of an organization. All they talk about
is the federal debt. And I'm a deficit hawk myself.
I'm very concerned that our debt is quickly getting to
the point that it will not just damage our economy
but destroy our economy. Where do you put yourself on

(01:30:54):
the debt deficit?

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
You know, scale of concern, it's hugely concerned.

Speaker 11 (01:31:01):
I mean, it's horrible. And you know, part of the
things that I want to look at is where we're
spending our money. I mean, I think that's number one
to see how we got into this deficit. Being as
someone who's worked for the government for over thirty years,
I saw a lot of fraud, waste, and abuse, and
I think that there's a lot of cuts that we
can make. I think we can go in right now
today and we can identify hundreds of billions of dollars

(01:31:22):
that are being illicitly spent on the stupidest things and
bring them back here to the United States to be spent,
not being spent overseas, or even not even spending it
in the US if it's a worthless program. But we've
got to look at exactly what us as taxpayers, we're
giving all this money to the government, what are they
actually spending it on. Yeah, I mean that's what we
got to identify first. You know, we got to open

(01:31:44):
those books up and say, come on, man, this is wrong.
This is what are we spending this on. Okay, So
I think that's the number one thing I can do
as a freshman congressman.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
I'm going to give you my idea that I've given
to so many members of Congress. Is not even funny
that I'm telling you it's a winner. We need to
set up a program a whistleblower financial whistleblower program where
if any government employee brings forth evidence of waste faden abuse,
they get twenty five percent of whatever it is. If
it's one hundred million contract, but they get twenty five percent.

(01:32:14):
If it's a five thousand dollars contract, they get twenty
five percent because we're still saving the other seventy five percent.
But if you want to incentivize people to really get
serious about their budgets, reward them for turning this stuff in.
And I'm telling you that would work, and no one
has ever taken me up on it. I've been given
this idea for a year. So now it's yours.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
John, Fabricatory is yours?

Speaker 11 (01:32:35):
Yeah. Now I'm gonna call it the Mandy Connallac when
I when I get in a condoms, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
That would be amazing. I don't even care if it fails.
That would be the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
So, John, when you talk to people in your district,
in the sixth Congressional district, what are they telling you? Look,
we got the economy just now, but what are the
other things that they're concerned about. I mean, people all
have different life experiences, and I'm wondering if there's any
kind of things you're hearing about that might be surprising,
you know.

Speaker 11 (01:33:04):
It's not really a surprise, you know, as I go
through and talk to people, it's really the basics. It's
it's being able to afford groceries, it's being able to
afford a home. I've really been trying to include a
lot of the under thirty crowd and what I do
because I think they're underserved, especially by Republicans. So you know,
in talking to them, it's really about what is their
future going to be, like how are they going to

(01:33:25):
be able to afford a home? How are they going
to be able to afford a family? And that's worrisome
to me, you know, as somebody that you know, just
entered his fifties. You know, if we want, you know,
the United States to keep moving forward, you know, we
have people under thirty who feel hopeless. Yeah, and with
with with that kind of you know feeling from them,
we're not going to move forward. So we have to

(01:33:45):
start recognizing that we have a whole generation that that
it doesn't feel like they're included and that it's hopeless,
and we got to do a better job about getting
them on board.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
John Fabricatory is my guest.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
He's running in the sixth congressional district against Jason Crow.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
I see that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
I know that politicos say don't ever say the opponent's name,
but several of my listeners have pointed out, They're like,
we don't know who these people are running against.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
So we don't know who to avoid. So I'll say
the name.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
But the name you need to remember is John Fabricatory
because he is the Republican running. I think in a
district that is winnable. It does lean Democrat, but I
do think it is a winnable district. So if somebody
asks you, okay, what are you going to do? The
first you just mentioned being a freshman congressman, it sounds
like you understand that there's some limitations for a freshman congressman.

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What are the things that you would aggressively pursue right
out of the shoot?

Speaker 11 (01:34:36):
You know, like I said, opening up the books and
letting people see where we spend their money. You know,
congressmen have oversight of programs. If I have oversight of
a program, I want the American people to see exactly
where we're spending our dollars in that program. I think
that's the first thing that any freshman congressman can do
is just be truthful with your constituents about where you're
spending their money. So that would be the first thing

(01:34:57):
I would look at, and then I would have to
see what committees on that sitting on and uh, you know,
do my do my do my best to make sure
that you know, we're held to a higher standard. We're
spending the American taxpayer dollar the right way, and we're
doing the best for the United States. So you know,
we can be the country that I know that we
are the shining star, the light on the hill, all
the way into the next one hundred, three hundred, four
hundred years from now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
A Texter just hit our Common Spirit Health text line
and said, what are you doing to reach unaffiliated voters?
Because we are rapidly becoming an unaffiliated voter state, and uh,
it is critical to reach those unaffiliated voters.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
What's the plan there?

Speaker 11 (01:35:34):
Yeah, that's that's a that's the greatest point because that's
how Jason Crow wins. He wins, you know, with those
unaffiliated independent voters because they believe he's a moderate congressman
and he's not. He's super far left He's further to
the left than AOC and Corey Bush. So for me,
I have to reach them. And you know what I've
been doing is I've been walking neighborhoods and I've been
only going to homes that are unaffiliated or independent homes.

(01:35:56):
Those are the homes that I'm knocking on. I'm not
knocking on Republican doors because they probably aligned to my process.
I don't need people saying, oh yeah, I believe in this.
I want to have a little bit of a debate
when I get to a door. I want I want
people to ask me questions and say, why shouldn't I
vote for Jason Crowe. So that's the doors I'm knocking on.
So and I'm going to continue to do that through

(01:36:16):
to November. I'm trying to reach out to people on
different kind of networks. I'll go on and I will
debate anybody on any radio show, any television program they
want to invite me on. I will go into the
lions Den and talk to anybody on anything, because I
think what I have to say people will start to
listen and they will vote.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Are those unaffiliated voters do they seem receptive to the message?
Do you have a positive feeling after those encounters.

Speaker 11 (01:36:44):
Yeah, I really do. Especially with what's going on in
the United States now, I think a lot more people
are starting to recognize and I think social media is
a big aspect of that. I think people are getting
most of their news from social media. They're on social media,
They're able to see a lot of different points of
view because people are just hosting a lot of things.
A lot of bad stuff as well that comes through
social media, and you have to, you know, kind of
be careful about what you're watching. But there's also great

(01:37:06):
information that gets out there. So when I start my
conversations with people, I don't go on the attack. I
ask some questions. I kind of try to align myself
with them on something that I might agree with them with,
and then I start to move the conversation in the
directions of things that I feel confident about and that
I think that they should be aware of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Is the border one of those issues, because it seems
to me like this has been politicized, But I wonder
if just everyday Americans see it as a political issue
and more of an issue of you know, right and
wrong of people following the rule of law. To come
here even though our immigration system is horrible and it
sucks our legal immigration system, or is it too politicized

(01:37:47):
for people who may be on the other side of
the aisle to even admit that this is a huge
problem that needs to be taken care of.

Speaker 11 (01:37:55):
Well, you know, one thing you said is entirely correct.
The other side of the aisle makes it highly political,
and that's when it's hard to really talk to people
when they're really lean further to the left. Immigration is very,
very politicized. I think most of the people that I
talk to right now, it's a health and safety issue
for them. They don't know who's coming into the country.
They want people to be vetted, they want people to
follow the law. They want to make sure that we

(01:38:17):
don't have diseases and bombs and bomb makers and terrorists
and gangs coming into the country. And you know, they
want the right thing. And most people I talk to.
Ninety nine percent of the people I talk to want
legal immigration, as do I. A very small segment doesn't.
They would want the whole United States to be shut down.
I don't align with those people, but you know, most
of the people I talk to, you do see immigration

(01:38:39):
as an issue They see it as an issue for
the economy. They see what it's doing to our hospitals,
they see what it's doing our police forces, they see
what it's doing inside of our classrooms. Illegal immigration, it
causes a drain on society, and we shouldn't have to
deal with it as a society, and we should get
our hands around having a better legal immigration system and
making sure that the people that come into this country
are legally hear and can pay taxes and do everything

(01:39:00):
else that they're supposed to do. And they're actually here
to be an American and to go the American way,
not here to just steal from the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
So let me ask you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
About immigration reform, because it's you know, it was. They
tried to do it in two thousand and eight. It
was a disaster. But the reality is is that we
do need to completely overhaul our immigration system. At another time, John,
I'll tell you the saga of my friend who is
an American who's been married to an Irishman for twenty
three years about his current immigration situation that is so

(01:39:31):
beyond absurd it's almost like a bad movie. So would
you want to be part of a genuine conversation about
overhauling the legal immigration system first and then you know,
I say secure the border first, then we fix legal immigration,
and then we figure out what to do with all
the people who are here illegally. Like for me, those
those steps have to go in that order.

Speaker 11 (01:39:53):
Yeah, you know, I would definitely be on that. You know,
I'm a subject matter expert on removal law and dealing
with the law enforcement aspect of it. But there are
a lot of things that need to be changed on
the Citizenship Immigration Services side, like decide you said, where
someone's been here legally, They've been here for twenty three
years trying to get legal citizenship legally. Like I just
went to Citizenship Immigration Services. I'm trying to help a veteran.

(01:40:17):
This veteran's been a Green card holder since the nineteen eighties.
He's eighty something years old, been trying to get citizenship
this whole time because he wants to vote before he dies.
He's a Green card holder, he's legally here, has not
been able to get an interview at CIS. Even myself
as a former director, could not get him an interview. Finally,
a congresswoman, it was actually Congressman Peterson. I will give

(01:40:40):
her a I'll give her a pat on the back.
I'll even give a pad on a back to a
Democrat wh when they do the right thing. Her office
went there. They had taken him under his wing, under
their wing finally, and it looks like this guy's finally
going to get a citizenship. But he's been trying for years.
And he's a United States Army veteran, spent nine years
in the Army.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
And that's the absurdity of it all.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
John Abrigatory is running in the sixth congressional district. I
put a link to his website if you would like
to find out more about John or support him. John,
we'll talk to again before the election, as I'm just
going to pay for the airwaves with all the people
that I think are the best candidates. So you are
in the You're in the circle of love, John Fabricatory,
and you can thank Bernadette for that.

Speaker 10 (01:41:20):
Yay.

Speaker 11 (01:41:22):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
I appreciate you making time for us today.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
We'll talk again soon, all right, all right, all right,
that is John Fabricatory. I had to make room because
a rod turned into a pumpkin named Grant Smith Hi
a bolo tie wearing pumpkin.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Yeah, you have quite the collection. Do people still give
you more?

Speaker 11 (01:41:48):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:41:48):
Yeah, I just got another one, another two for my
birthday in April.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
Very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
You're gonna be the Bolo tie wearing full till the
end of time. You know what that should be your
side hustle Right there, I need something the Grant Smith's
side hustle. You can bring back Bolo tie single handedly.
We've also been joining the studio by one mister Rob Dawson. Hey,
good to see you guy. I haven't seen you much
since we got that from the convention. It's just been
like it's been here and there and everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
I miss you, man, I miss you.

Speaker 11 (01:42:15):
Side.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
It's hey, okay, why now it's time for the most
exciting segment all the radio of its kind in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
Well downbeat there for that one. All right, that was
good of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
What is our dad joke of the day?

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
Please get over from Rob? That was great.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
This is from a rod so God, don't blame me, okay,
don't shoot the messenger.

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
Waiter. How do you like your stakes, sir?

Speaker 7 (01:42:45):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
Like winning an argument with my wife?

Speaker 11 (01:42:48):
Waiter? Where it is?

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
God?

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
Yeah, that's kind a good one.

Speaker 11 (01:42:53):
I like that one.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
What is our word of the day, Please grant word
of the day? Squirrel s k I r L.

Speaker 12 (01:43:01):
It's a verb, a verb to scurl, to scurl about
if you get this one, I'm going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
I think to scirl, to scirl is to h twirl
around wearing a skirt so it flies out. To scurl
sir to hide hid skirrel.

Speaker 12 (01:43:20):
Yeah, well you both are completely wrong. As much means
to play the bagpipes?

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Oh well, that's the thing. I knowed the bagpipes?

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Or do you just scurl and it's assumed that it's bagpipes?
Or do you scirl the bagpipes? The piper scurled? Okay, okay,
so it's redundant to say he scirled the bagpipes, right, yes, Okay,
there you go. Now that's what you're welcome listeners, because
you've probably all been like I, wondering what do they
call it when they play the bagpipes? And now we
know who is the singer and songwriter of the indie

(01:43:52):
folk band bon Iver.

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
Have no idea I should really know this. I don't
know this, don't I know it's from Iceland.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
I'm going to see a band tonight taking the queue
and her friends never heard a single song they play?

Speaker 5 (01:44:05):
Who is it?

Speaker 4 (01:44:06):
Wll never heard of them? Well, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Justin Vernon bon Iver arrived in the music scene in
two thousand and seven with their debut album for Emma
Forever Ago Okay, okay, uh Dawson, Mandy Connell, What is
our category, please, sir?

Speaker 12 (01:44:27):
The Jeopardy category for today A meet low reference two
out of three?

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Ain't bad? Oh? I love that song? Ready for the
first one? Yes, proverbably wow? I that's that word up?
It is said to.

Speaker 11 (01:44:39):
Spoil the whole bunch?

Speaker 10 (01:44:40):
Manny?

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
What is a bad apple?

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
Correct apple?

Speaker 11 (01:44:44):
All right?

Speaker 12 (01:44:45):
Disney Channell had a movie called This When you kaffer
just won't just won't cooperate cofer spell the oh I
F f U r E. When you're it's your hair?

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
U say that again?

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Disney Channel had a movie.

Speaker 12 (01:45:01):
Disney Channel had a movie called This When Your Coiffer
just won't cooperate.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
I have no idea channel, no clue past, nothing bad
hair day. I used to love Disney Channel movies. I
don't remember that one, okay. I was more to Nickelodeon.
But I'm racking my head of a what Disney.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Channel movie Nickelodeon Rock Ways In. Yes, Nickelodeon has entered
the chat.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
Let's go on Nickelodeon.

Speaker 12 (01:45:28):
This song by CCR says, looks looks like we're in
for nasty weather.

Speaker 4 (01:45:37):
What is bad Moon rising?

Speaker 11 (01:45:38):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
Yeah, that was that's I actually knew that. One to
zero Mandy.

Speaker 12 (01:45:46):
BCD is short for this not so great way of
getting out of the military.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
I should know this BCD. I don't know. Well, I
should know this because only I knew good soldiers. I
had no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
Is it Rob?

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
You don't have I don't know bad conduct? Discharge?

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
Was discharge? I'm just gonna charge dang it.

Speaker 12 (01:46:14):
Last one, Henry is the first name of this knotty
character created for newspapers in the eighteen eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
Handy, what is oh Henry incorrect? You're gonna take this away?

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
I'll take this way and it's not it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
What is Henry Aldrich incorrect?

Speaker 11 (01:46:33):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
Peck Peck's bad Boy? Oh gosh, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
I don't know what. I don't know what that reference?

Speaker 11 (01:46:44):
I don't either.

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
We need Alex to explain that to us, because that
was confusing, all right. What's not confusing is the KA
Sports is coming up next, so we're gonna make way.
We will be back tomorrow, got a big Friday show
already planned. So we'll see here tomorrow on the radio
at noon. In the meantime, keep it here on KOA.