09-17-24 FULL SHOW - The Neighbors Aren't Happy About the New Ford Amphitheatre

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, no, it's Mandy Connell, Andy Condall.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
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Prey by Connell, Keith You, Sad Bab, Welcome, Local, Welcome
to a Tuesday edition of the show.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
I'm your host for the next three hours. Mandy Connell
joined today by Anthony Rodriguez, you can call him a
rod back from his travels doing all kinds of stuff
over the weekend during football and whatnot, and back on
the show. And I've got a ton of stuff on
the blog. But can we just start with something that's

(00:52):
not on the blog today, and that is the exploding
Hesbla pagers. I saw this, and y'all, first I was like, oh, damn,
Israel you did. And now that the story is developing,
it is just turning into absolute madness.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Hesbla says, Now this.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Is Hesblah says that two members are of Hesbela are
among the dead.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
A young girl, the daughter of.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
A Hesbela member, was reported killed after a pager exploded
in her parents' home. They are still receiving injuries to
the hand, the face, and areas where you keep a
pager in your pocket. And I this is a crazy story,
I mean really really crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
But what a mind blank this is by Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
This and I'm just gonna say this, like using the
definition of terrorism, this has very terroristic overtones to it
because the entire intent behind this was to put Hesbela
on notice that no matter where they are, no matter
what they're doing, Israel can get to them. But in

(02:18):
the process they did it to everyone in the country
as well.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
So though I love the coolness of.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
It, right, it's very James Bond, very you know, the
Kingsman kind of thing, but it's like this, I don't know.
I guess we're here now, I guess we're just going
to go scorch to earth. And now Israel has not
taken any kind of credit for this, but.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Who else could do this? Who else? No one else.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
So Hesbela has promised to retaliate. Lebanese Information Minister Zaid
Makari condemned the detonation of the pagers used by Hesbela
and others in.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Lebanon to communicate.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
As Israeli aggression has blissed, Israel would receive its fair
punishment in the blasts. I just want to point out,
remember when Israel killed somebody in Iran and everybody was like,
oh hell no, oh no, they didn't hear it comes Iran.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
How did that work out? What did I miss something?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
I think that one by one, Israel is showing people
that these these are paper tigers, and that for all
their talk and bluster and little crappy rocket attacks and
everything else, that they're not backing it up. And I
read an interesting article yesterday. It was an opinion column,

(03:46):
and the opinion column is that Israel has decided that
it's time for the larger war with Iran because they
know that as long as the regime in Iran remains
undisturbed and these splinter organizations, we'll always have funding and
Israel will spend the rest of its existence stamping out
these little fires from these Iranian uh, you know, arms.

(04:10):
And so they've just decided it's time. We're just gonna
do it. We're gonna we're gonna, we're gonna make it,
We're gonna make it happen. So I don't know exactly
what's going to happen next. So what we shall see though,
I mean we shall see, but On the one hand,
I'm like, dang, that's so cool. But on the other hand, I'm.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Like, that's a little that is that's a aw Walt's.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
A very very fine line, and it's one who doesn't
like it when people launch terror attacks where I live.
And this was just like, eah, a little close there
for comfort. Anyway, Mandy heard their changing the name Hesbella
to Hesballes quite possibly, quite possibly. Let's do the blog.

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Shall we go to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com.
Look for the headline that says nine seventeen twenty four
blog the neighbors aren't happy about the new Ford Amphitheater.
Click on that and here are the headlines you will
find within.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Anybe in office. Half of American all with ships and
clipments say that's going to press platch today on the blog,
It's not all concerts and fun in the springs right now.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
One simple word is a job killer. Charter schools are
working in Colorado. The eighth congressional race is turning ugly
about Ohio scrolling Why I Hate the Government Part five
seven four eight five eight five scrolling Trump asks for
help protecting the capital. Maybe kits are a holes. Could

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air quality be connected to mental health?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Who's giving the big bucks in Colorado politics? It's time
to bounce some judges. Did he do it?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
A series of explosions rock hesbela chemicals from food packaging
end up in our food. The real estate market is
pretty slow right now. Amazon JHN says airbody back in
the office.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
The most gen X.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Band story ever, Ice Castles is coming back to Cripple Creek.
The castle weaned, a new reservation system had a day.
The time for spider lovers is now. Hillary Clinton wants
her husband jailed. The FBI is now checking free.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Speech to scrolling scrolling.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Now, gangs are shaking down truck drivers in Aurora. Teachers
now bribing kids on gender identity. Best potato gun ever,
Crash Davis didn't get fired for this? And sheep dogs
getting it done? How to save your choking dog? Those
are the many, many headlines on the blog today at
mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
And I did not realize how long the blog was, so.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I ran out of air like fifteen seconds ago, and
now I'm lightheaded trying to get through the whole thing.
Hey it easy, I am a rod.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Favorite video of the year so far. The sheep dog
video me too. Gotta tell you, oh cool.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
It is a It is a video shot from the
base of a hill. I saw that a high hill
and it is of a sheep dog hurting a pretty
large flock of sheep, and so you see it from
far away and you see it's amazing.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
That video did two things for me. Number one, make
me go wow, that is really awesome and cool. Number
two confirming I'm never having that kind of dog because
that is way too damn smart of a dog.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Way too much energy going on here. Yet No, the
energy is fine. I can do the energy. That is
a smart dog.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Have you ever seen like a like a sheep dog
when they're on one side of a herd and they
have to go to the other side of the herd,
Like the farmer will say, okay, bring them in, yeh,
like to bring him in a shoe. The dog will
hop and jump on the backs of the sheep and
then hop.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Down and hurt him. Yeah, back towards it. It's amazing.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
I love a well trained dog, I really do. But
that's that's that's next level.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
That really is amazing. It's smartly, really amazing.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
That dog cannout smart and.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
So that's on the blog today, so you need to
go see that. So I do have a story about
the hesibal a page, but it had just broken when
I was doing the blog, and now we know more information.
So Mandy, as long as people like Biden, Harris and
Obama in charge, Iran will have money, nukes and potential
dirty bombs. Iran never stopped making nuclear stuff. They never stopped.

(08:18):
Anyone who tells you the Iran nuclear deal was being
adhere to ask them to show you any evidence. This
is what kills me about the Iran deal and how
people are like, you know, we just needed to go
back to the Iran deal if they had never done
you guys, in the Iran deal they were allowed to
make nukes after eleven years.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
It was such a bad deal.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
And of course the Iranians are working on nuclear weapons,
of course they are. So this needs to be taken
care of. Now now I don't know what happens. Here's
the problem. Here's the problem with Israel getting into it
with Iran and the entire Middle East get sucked into
this war that everybody else has to be a part
because Honestly, the last thing we want is the dominance

(09:03):
of the Islamist form of Islam, the Islamist form as
is practiced in Iran where women are what was.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It Iran or was it Afghanistan?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I can't remember which one just voted to not allow
women to speak in public.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Now, as a person.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Whose voice goes well beyond my immediate spear, as a
woman that's not okay with me, shouldn't be okay with anybody.
So I don't need that kind of Islamism taking over
any part of the Middle.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
East that is not already that way. So everybody gets involved.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Everybody jumps in the pool, right, everybody's got to say,
Europe has to be involved, So everybody gets involved in
this nonsense. And then okay, let's just say, let's just
say the Islamists are defeated, who takes over, who runs
that joint. It's not like there's all of these true,
you know, people married to democracy over in Islamic society.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
There's that doesn't exist. So it's basically like, are we gonna.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Spend blood and treasure fighting an organization that is only
marginally better than what waits in the wings that's the
part I'm worried about.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Now.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
If we're fighting for the survival of Israel, and I
do believe we are, then the fight it may be
worth it anyway. Let's see here. Let's see here, Mandy,
as long as people. Oh wait a minute, I just
read that, Mandy, the Masade has put plastic explosives in
phones to off terrorist. If you're a terrorist, you might
be afraid of a light, switched toaster, microwave, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Good on your Masade, that from Lance. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, If pagers can be used as weapons, what about
cell phones?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
How about electric cars? Yeah? All of them? Mandy.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
I keep hearing about this pager story, but I have
not heard how many pagers were exploded. Do you have
any idea? Now we know that two thousand and people,
let's see, twenty seven hundred and fifty people have been wounded.
Now are those the people that had the pagers?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Has bela official said the detonation of the pagers was
the biggest security breach the group had been subjected to
in nearly a year of conflict with Israel, and without
commenting directly on the explosions in Lebanon and Israeli military
spokesman said the Chief of Staff, Major General Herzei Halave,

(11:31):
had met with senior officers on Tuesday to assess the situation.
No policy change was announced, but vigilance must continue to
be maintained. So yeah, Now, Hesbula said two of its
fighters were killed. But how many other people have been
using them, I don't know. I have no idea. Two

(11:55):
hundred people critically injured. Most are many of those who
included Hasbla fighters who are the sons of top officials
from the armed group. One of the fighters killed was
the son of a Hesbila member of the Lebanese Parliament
Ali Mr. Yeah, so that's gonna create a problem. Anything
with a computer chip can be manipulated, says this texter. Yeah,

(12:20):
that's what makes me nervous, because when the machines come
for us, we're done, just done, all right. So here's
what we're gonna do. I don't want to spend the
whole show talking about this. We do have other stuff
to talk about.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Coming up.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
At twelve thirty. We're gonna talk to a guy named Peter.
I think it's body. Did we ask kind of pronounce
his last name?

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Body?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Body b O D D I E. I would think
Body because there's two consonants which would make the O
an awe sound in on an O sound or an
O sound.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
So I'm gonna say Peter Body is gonna come on
the show. He is running in the twenty eighth house
district here in Colorado, and the guy he ran against,
he says, was lobbied hard to make a change that
put a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Out of work with one word.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
So we'll talk to him about that at twelve thirty,
and then you know, I've talked about the Ford Amphitheater
in the Springs.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm excited as a music lover to.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Go down there and visit it and experience a show there,
but it has not been a good experience for neighbors.
And I've got Jeremy, one of those neighbors on it
when thirty today to talk about how life has changed
because of the Amphitheater.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
So that's what's coming up on the show.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I want to get into this story just a little
bit because.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
The eighth Congressional District race.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
I don't know if you guys watched local television, but
you're going to start seeing every other commercial is going
to be for Gabe Evans or for Ya Deerra Caraveo,
or against Gabe Evans or against Ya.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Deer A Caraveo.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Because this race is in play, it is competitive. The
district leans right, even though carave was elected in the
last election cycle, and this is a winnable.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
District for Gabe Evans.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
So there is a ton of money, a ton of
media spending that has already been placed on this race alone,
and it's starting to get ugly. And I bring this
up not because I'm shocked or you know, it is
what it is, right, It's always easier to accept ugly

(14:26):
politics in the general than it is in the primary
when you are attacking your own team. But nonetheless there's
accusations of lying about different positions and everything else. And
I thought to myself, if this is what we're going
to do, it does make the case for rank choice
voting even stronger.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Now, what am I talking about here?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
So rank choice voting, as it would be done in
Colorado would incentivize people to campaign in an upbeat, positive
way because if they don't win enough on the first
go round, they need the second place votes of people
to win now. And a general election does this really matter.
I don't think so, because people are pretty much drawn
on ideological lines. But anything that can make things less contentious,

(15:15):
it's just it's exhausting.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Just got this.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
The fire near Lockheed Martin is nearly contained.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Don't know that it's just a texter.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
If our news people are listening here, Mandy, that page
your story should make everybody nervous that has a cell phone.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
You guys, you think about all.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
The technology that's in your car, Like if somebody really
wanted to kill you, don't you think if they're taking
something over, they're gonna take over your car and ram you,
like just drive you off the side of a cliff.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's what I do.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I had the power to take over somebody's stuff, And
what would you do, a ron If you're a master criminal,
like you are gonna be the next Bond villain and
you are going to take someone out using technology, what
mode of technology do you use to take them out?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
I mean, I think they answer is pretty obvious.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Right now. You go on the way of AI terminator
style sky Net. I'm founding Skynet that way. I'm on
the right side of it. So I'm like one of
those humans that they keep alive and yeah, like, I
guess we can keep you around.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, but do you just want to be the only humans?
Do you want to be like the token humans in
the of course not.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
But I'd rather be alive and a slave to AI
than dead.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, or how about part of the rebellion? Yeah, you
work out super great for most of the people the rebellion.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Again, I'm still I'm still in the very serious camp
that AI is just waiting for Arnold Schwarzenegger to die
because they've seen the movies and they're scared that it
is possible. Yea, that is when the takeover happens. Is
when A is when Arnold goes. So I'm just waiting.
I want to be on the right side of it.
I want to live by whatever means. That's how all right,

(16:56):
super realistic too. Now I'm definitely gonna be on that
side of things.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Ralph points this out.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
He says, we can make evs do whatever we want.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Out of control acceleration, breaking only on one side at
speed to.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Roll the vehicle steer into a concrete pillar. That's comforting.
This is why I want a VW thing, right. I
don't even know the last year they made the thing.
This thing has no electronics in it whatsoever. There's nothing
to fry, nothing to take over, nothing to control. Of course,
I can't go uphills in the mountains, but that's okay.

(17:30):
I'll just move to the flatlands and that's where I'll
have it. It's crazy, though, ooh, this person said, Mandy,
I would create explosive gum. That would be Now wait
a minute, here's my question. So if you have explosive gum,
say you've got your stick of gum and you're like, oh,
do you like a piece of gum?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Your breath is kind of rank from that kabab.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
You just wait, so you hand over the piece of
gum and then do you like put it in your
mouth and as soon as they go chomp, is that
when it explodes?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Or do you have to.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Build up like a little bit of saliva and then
you hit the chomp perfectly because that gives you, as
the gum giver, time to retreat.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I don't think enough people chew gum for that to
be an effective mode.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't know. People don't chew gum anymore. Really, I
don't chew gum anymore, but only because I have a crown.
You can't chew gum and have a crown. They're incompatible,
completely incompatible.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Mandy, I'm gonna try this again. I'm using voice to
text because I'm in my car. Safety first. You couldn't
be more wrong about ranked choice voting. Everywhere it's been tried,
it's benefited the Democrat left. I've mentioned before, the left
on left Boulder, the radical leftists use it to push
out the moderate Democrat.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
It was more popular out It's a scheme. Now. The
difference between what.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
We're talking about for Colorado is that no one can
win in Colorado without a majority, so that hopefully will
take care of the problem. I don't know if Boulder
is set up the same way the texture. I promise
you I will investigate that and I will report back
honestly my thoughts.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Because I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
I don't want to create a system that just entrenches
the same miserable people that are in there now in
order for you, my fear is is that it's like socialism. Right,
you look at it on paper and you're like, God,
that's genius.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Well, of course this is gonna work. Of Course, candidates
are going to campaign more nicely. Of course it's going.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
To inject civility back into politics.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
But is that ever really possible? Or is human nature?

Speaker 4 (19:33):
And by human nature, I mean the ability to be
swayed by someone else going negative more powerful than the
urge to listen to someone else you may disagree with,
to see if maybe you'll give them a second place.
But I mean I might be being Pollyanna about this.
I'm still waffling, still reading, and I promise Texter I

(19:53):
will look that up as well. Now when we get back,
we are going to have a chat with the guy
is Well. He's concerned about a one word change that
lost a lot of jobs in Colorado and now he's
running for the house.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
We'll talk to Peter Body next.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
A man who is running for the Colorado House District
in the twenty eighth House district.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Peter Body.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Of course, Peter, I chose to pronounce your name incorrectly
before you came on the air with me, but never fear,
I have corrected myself And welcome.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
To the program.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Thank you, thank you for having me on.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
So first of all, I want to ask you why
did you decide to run for the twenty eighth House
District seat.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Well, I love Colorado and I love my country, and
we have some problems that need to be addressed, and
our Colorado legislature is out of control, and I want
to repair some of the damage and change things down there.

(20:56):
So it's costing people money, and there's there's all kinds
of problems that are being caused by an out of
control legislature.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
So what specifically got your attention? And I'm directing you
to the big backflow blunder which you are out there publicizing.
Tell my listeners what happened when one word change, literally
one word change destroyed businesses and jobs.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Explain how this has happened.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Sure, well, I call it the big backflow blunder. And
it was caused by my opponent, the incumbent in House
District twenty eight.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
And it was a change to the.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
State Plumbing Board Law, which had to be renewed because
of sunset. And it was a change that the Plumbing
Board law addresses licensing of plumbers and the regulations for plumbing,
which is a necessary law and needed to be renewed.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
However, at the last minute, they changed.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
A couple words involving what's called the backflow prevention device testing,
and they changed it. So the previous law said backflow
testing shall be exempt from being performed by licensed plumbers,
and they change that too, are not exempt from plumbing

(22:27):
licensed plumbers. Well, backflow devices are on all commercial buildings
and large irrigation systems and even most of your backyard
irrigation systems have a backflow device. And what that does
is it prevents if you have a break in your system,

(22:50):
in your building or in your irrigation system, there's a
big loss of pressure or something happens. It prevents potentially
contaminating water in your system, in your system from going
back into the public water supply.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Okay, So it's a stopgap.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
It's been around for decades.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Okay, it's a stop gap to prevent cross contamination if
something goes wrong in one.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Place exactly, Okay.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
And so there's been a whole industry built up of
backflow tester, certified backflow tester. They have to be take
training and perform these tests once a year on all
the commercial operations. Those have to be submitted to the
water utilities and submitted to the state Health Department. And

(23:41):
if you don't get the testing done, that creates a
potential health violation. And so by changing it from not
requiring licensed plumbers at the behest of a plumber's union
and a plumbers organization, which my opponent readily to comb

(24:04):
to their request, put it in without anybody knowing, and
all of a sudden, hundreds of backflow testers who had
been doing this work for decades were potentially crushed out
of business, couldn't perform the tests. And that went into
effect July first, but nobody noticed it and till the

(24:29):
laws started to take effect.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
And then it just.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Created problems to it besides go ahead.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
So these companies specifically do this one thing. They're not
like doing this, and then it will take care of
this plumbing issue. They have one job and they focus
on this one thing because.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I want to make sure.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
I mean, if they have all this other training, what
would be the necessity of having it be a plumber.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
There is no necessity. It's been working fine for decades.
And these businesses, some of them do there's fire pressure
testing and big buildings and things. So some of them
do some other work, but the backflow. There are some
that that's all they do, is the backflow of testing.
So it's fine.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
If you're elected to the House of Representatives, what do.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
You want to do here, Well, the first thing is
to resend this this provision in the bill corrected, and
it has to be corrected by April first. Everybody panicked
because it caused so much trouble that they postponed implantation
till April first, which would give me a chance to

(25:38):
propose a bill and others propose a bill to fix
the problem. Denver Water is so concerned about Denver Water Department,
which serves a million and a half customers I think,
and they have forty four thousand of these devices that
need to be tested every year because of the law

(25:58):
going and affect your life. They were already behind on
their testing. And if they get a notice from the
State Health Department that they're in violation, they have to
send out a public notice. It costs a quarter of
a million dollars per notice. Oh good grief for them
to mail for postage and mailing and printing.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I just then you.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Multiply that by every water utility, right, and you have
a big bunder.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I got this text message Peter body who I'm talking
to you right now? Mandy.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I just heard from a friend you're going to be
doing a backflow segment on your show in about ten minutes.
Because of the new law, I ended up selling my
backflow business that I've had for eight years and I'm
a master plumber, still very active in the backflow community.
But the way, oh hang on, some just updated there
but them. But the way that the politics screwed with

(26:52):
the entire system was enough for me to get out
of it. I was doing over sixteen hundred tests a
year and whichever party decided to change this law really
screwed this industry up. I know for a fact that
I asked you once to look into it, and it
was before the nine News interview with Colleen Morrison, who
was a good friend of mine. So yeah, this is
having real life effects here, Peter. Let me ask you
this aside from this, like this can't be the only

(27:16):
thing that has you running. And people are asking, where
is the twenty eighth House district? What is that encompass?
What's your biggest areas?

Speaker 6 (27:23):
It's the very south edge of Lakewood in Jefferson County.
South edge of Lakewood down to about Coal Mine west
to Sea four seventy and on the east is where
parts of Denver and Arapahole County. Littleton kind of weave
in and out on the east edge.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Okay, so I.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Call it central South Jefferson County.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
So let me ask you this, what does it take
to become a licensed plumber? Because somebody said so these
black backflow companies can just become licensed plumbers to continue
this business. How easy is it to become a licensed plumber?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, I think.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
It takes years. You have to become an apprentice, and.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I'm not that.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Familiar with becoming a plumber. I just know electricians plumbers
they have to spend years training as an apprentice and
testing and then you know, moving up to become a
I guess a journeyman plumber and the master plumber. So
it's not something that you do overnight. And at the
same time, the backflow testing requires a forty hour training

(28:31):
and the passing a test. So in the past, the
plumbers didn't want to bother sending one of their plumbers
to get that test right. The plumber could do it
and it just was such small potatoes as some An
attorney at the Denver Water Department told me so that
the plumbers never wanted to do it in the past
because it wasn't sexy enough. It's just a small.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Test, Peter, we're out of time.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Why should people vote for Peter Body in the twenty
eighth House district.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Well, as I've said, the legislature, the Democrats and legislature
are drunk on power, and you need to elect sober republish.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
All right, Peter, Yeah, exactly Body.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
For Colorado dot Com.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I put a link on the blog to your website, Peter,
so people could see what you're up to. The best
of luck to you. Hopefully we'll talk to you when
you become a member of the House.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Thank you, Thank you, Peter.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
You know, isn't it interesting the things that set people
like ready to fight over And this is such a
stupid situation created by a guy you probably didn't even
realize what was going to be the end result and
didn't ask any follow up questions about what the negative
downsides could be.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
When we get back, let's talk about charters now.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I don't want to talk about that. I don't have
enough time. I'll do that in the two o'clock hour.
I've got to share a tweet that came out earlier
today that, in two single sentences, explains why I'm so
frustrated with government overall, we'll do that right next. For
the person who's like, well, why don't they just become

(30:12):
a master plumber, they can still do this job. So
the consensus seems to be this, let me find it.
Let's see here to become a journeyman electrician. Oh that's enough,
I'm a master plumber. It takes four years to test
for a journeyman and another two years to get your
master license. So that is six years before you can

(30:34):
get your master license. Mandy apprenticeship residential thirty four hundred hours,
journeyman fifty sixty eight hundred hours, Master eighty.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Five hundred hours. So there is there's you know, it's
a little more complicated. But the big story there is
not you know, go get.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Your master elect or master plumber's license. The big story
is they changed one word to benefit the plumbing union
and they put all these people out of business.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
I mean, you guys, come on.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
So I want to share another reason that I hate
the government. Not like hate it so much that I'm
gonna go live in a hillside and ride a manifesto.
I'm not that kind of hate the government, and just
more of a general sort of a general antipathy towards
the government.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
This tweet came.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Across my tweet line text line, x line, whatever you
want to call it, earlier, and.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
It's so perfect.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
FCC starlink doesn't have the technical capability to deliver broadband
internet to rural Americans.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Also, the FCC.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Starlink is just too big and too popular with US
rural internet consumers that it's becoming a monopoly. They hate
Elon Musk so much that they are looking past the
easiest solution to rural broadband access, which is starlink. I
know so many people who have switched to starlink.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
And they love it.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
I haven't heard any complaints as of yet. And uh,
starlink could be the answer the one thing. Hey, Rod,
do you saw the movie The Kingsman, right? So you
remember when the guy was like taking over the world
with the cell phones?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (32:13):
So what if eventually we're all on starlink and.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Then Elon Musk sends out the tone and then we
all start murdering each other.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
All he is an alien, So I believe that I
am correct when I say that he is indeed from
another land, another world.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
The weather report from Lebanon partly cloudy with a chance
of meatballs.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Wow? Wow, has bull a joke in the text line
the common Spirit?

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Heal's text line five six six nine zero Keep them
coming anyway, that's on the blog today. I also have
a long story and.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I read it.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I really wanted to have a better understanding of this.
But you know what I'm sick of when it comes
to our school system, and you can go read the
long article on the Denver Post about this. I'm tired
of people looking at statistics the show inequities, or they
show issues when it comes to discipline or suspensions or

(33:13):
things of that nature, and their assumption is that somehow
the answer is something other than some kids do not
behave at school, when in reality, a vast majority of
kids that are getting in trouble are the kids that
are not behaving in school. Just like when I was

(33:37):
a kid, the kids who got into the office were
the kids who did not behave in school. And they
did a long analysis. Out of school suspensions have skyrocketed
over the past couple of years since the pandemic. And
here's my thinking about an out of school suspension. It
is almost never the first option, ever, unless the kid

(33:58):
brings a weapon, or does some other blatantly, especially in Denver,
does some other blatantly violence inducing or or creating.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
There's never the first option. So kids that are.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Being suspended with an out of school suspension have already
been in trouble multiple times. And unfortunately, some of those
kids don't have parents that gave them the look that said,
if you do this again, you will not.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Be breathing tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
To be clear, my parents never threatened to murder me explicitly.
It was just implied in the glare that I got
from my mom. I mean, that's that's what I took
from it, the old I brought into this world.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
I can take you out kind of glare.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
So some of these kids are not going to do
well in school. They're not going to do the right thing.
They're not going to participate. They're going to come to
school and act the full. They should not be allowed
to disrupt everybody else's educational experience, and.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
That is inevitably what's happening. So I have very you know,
I have.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Feelings about this out of school suspension. I know you're
taking the kids out of school and they're not learning.
I guess what the kids that are in out of
school suspension. Are not learning in class anyway, because generally speaking,
they're the ones wreaking havoc. Get the teachers a break,
let the other kids learn, and you know what, with
online school, there should be no mischool.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
You should be able to keep up.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, Mandy, you can't even get suspended for rape or
even move to a different school.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
My daughter's been a fifth grade teacher, says this Texter
for fifteen years and said she's got the worst class
she's ever had. Nobody pays attention like they don't want
to do anything. We broke our children during COVID and
coddling is not going to bring them back. You know what,
Tough love is the only thing that's going to help
these kids at this point. I'm not talking about beating them,

(35:44):
but I am talking about holding them accountable for their
crappy behavior.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
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Speaker 2 (35:52):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
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Speaker 2 (36:09):
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Speaker 3 (36:13):
Welcome. We welcome to the second hour of the show.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I'm your host, Mandy Connell joined by Anthony Rodriguez you
may call him Ayrod.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Still so cute.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Anyway, we got two more hours before KAA Sports takes over,
and before I get into this charter school stuff, which
I think is super interesting, I have to play the
latest interview with Vice President Kamala Harris, or as I'm
calling her, Kamalabot.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Two point zero. Now, Ayrod, you weren't here yesterday.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
We were playing the audio of Kamala Harris speaking with
a local reporter where she just regurgitated her speech from
the DNC. But I'm sure this one I haven't listened
to it. It'll be fresh, just you and me, as
she's speaking to the National Association of Black Journalists, I'm
sure it'll all be fresh this time.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Let's hear.

Speaker 9 (37:02):
I grew up a middle class kid. Wait, my mother
was hard working. She raised me and my sister Maya.
She's saved up and it was only by the time
I was a teenager that she could afford to actually
buy her first home.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
And I know, and now I just realized something, you guys,
I had not listened to this.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
She's got a little bit of the black scent on, she's.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Got a little bit of that, and I know, let's
go let's go back and listen to one more time
for the accent as well. Come all about two point
zero Black Scent edition. I grew up a middle class kid.
My mother was hard working. She raised me and my
sister Maya.

Speaker 9 (37:41):
She saved up and it was only by the time
I was a teenager that she could afford to actually
buy her first home. And I know, and I identified
with I know where I come from, Madame, and I know,
but I'm just gonna finish.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
I know that so many.

Speaker 9 (37:57):
People work so hard and should have the opportunity to
just get their foot in the door again. So it's
not just about getting vibe, but getting ahead.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Please, I'd like to ask you more about the opportunity economy.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
And then I'm assuming that she, you know, anyway, blathered on.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Remember how well received Trump.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Was at the Black Association or the National Association of
Black Journalists. Remember that he was treated just so nice,
so nicely. Anyway, charter schools, let's talk about that for
a second. I am a huge fan of charter schools.
Now that the queue has moved on, I love telling
people that she went to an American Academy charter school
in Douglas County and had a really good educational experience there.

(38:44):
As a matter of fact, she struggled moving to a
public high school in her freshman year because she had
already done so much that they were doing in her
freshman year at American Academy. So I'm a huge charter
school fan. I am not trying in any way, shape
or form to put traditional public high schools out of business.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
That is not what I'm looking to do.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
But what I'm looking for are schools that are unfettered
by unreasonable edicts from the teachers unions who kept kids
out of school for almost two years because of COVID.
And I'm looking for a place that is not going
to teach my kid that they are the problem because
they might happen to be white.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
I'm looking for a place.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
That is going to teach kids the full picture of
American history, the good and the bad, but not just
the bad.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
And that's what we found in American Academy.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
And charter schools are very very popular in Colorado. We
have a very robust charter school system and a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Of people who work mostly.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
For teachers unions because teachers unions hate anything that erodes
their power.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
And I think, and I.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Might be wrong, but I think that the only charter
school that I know of that and I don't know
the outcome to be perfectly frank, I believe the charter
schools started by Jared Polis years ago is the only
one that has union teachers in it if they passed,
and I believe they voted to unionize, So you don't

(40:19):
worry about teachers' union influence with charter schools. So they're
always under attack wherever they are, wherever they're successful, they
are always going to be under attack. There's actually an
initiative on the ballot this year that would make parental
choice the law of the land in a way that
would prevent an attack on school choice, especially charter schools.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Now, let me get to the Common Sense Institute. They
just did a.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Big white paper on Amendment eighty, that is the school
choice Amendment on the charter schools. And this amendment, Amendment eighty,
would enshrine school choice into the state constitution. And it reads,
the people of the State of Colorado hereby find and
declare that all children have the right to equal opportunity

(41:08):
to access a quality education, that parents have the right
to direct the education of their children, and the choices
defined in the initiative language, including neighborhood charter, private and
home schools, open enrollment options, and future innovations in education.
So it's a broad, broad thing that just says, look,

(41:31):
we have to have all these options. And then they
did a little digging, the Common Sense Institute did, and.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
They found some stuff.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Statewide, in twenty twenty two, thirty seven percent of charter
students met or exceeded grade level expectations in English, compared
to thirty one percent of third through eighth graders in
district run schools. On the math test, thirty one percent
of students met or exceeded grade level expectations compared to
twenty seven percent in district managed schools. Now, we can

(42:03):
talk for a minute on the fact that seventy percent
of kids, even in a charter school can't do math
on grade level. I mean, and can we all, Okay,
any parents that have had to deal with everyday math
in the past few years.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
That stuff is straight. That's like, why don't we just
call it Satan's math? Okay?

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Everyday math is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
And we have to go back to those miserable days
where you had to measure, you had to remember your
time stables. Aron, when you were kids, did you have
to remember your timetables? Three times one is three, three
times two is six, three times three is nine, three
times four is twelve.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
I full on memorize it, if not even understand it.
I mean I just memorize it early on. Yeah, I remember,
I remember having the big trip.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, the big chart, and you had to do it
until you memorize it.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Well.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Everyday math purports to make math easier, but everyday math
makes advanced math much harder.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
I don't know. There's things like why did we change.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
A math curriculum? Why math is math? Is math is math?

Speaker 3 (43:10):
The numbers don't change. English has been even worse.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
The move away from teaching phonics and grammar.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Grammar not so much.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Grammar is still a part of the educational process, but
phonics is critical to being able to read and then
later read at a more advanced level. And they're just
now bringing it back to class and brought back to students.
This is one of those situations where education is like ooh, look,
new shiny thing over there, and it's been terrible I digress.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Let me get back to this anyway, Mandy, I was
the first in my class to get.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Through nine through twelve. There you go, nine times twelve.
That's a big one, my friend. And I know it
in my head right now. I'll let everybody else catch
up and then I'll get the answer because I know
it now. A lot of people from teacher unions love
to say things like charter schools are unaccountable. That is

(44:10):
the exact opposite, because district schools are not held up
for review every few years to have their charter renewed
as charter schools are. Charter schools have had their charters
pulled or have been forced to close when they were not.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Doing a good job educating kids.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Imagine if district schools were forced to close if they
didn't do a good job educating kids. Now, the other
lie that's out there is well, of course charter schools
do well. They cherry pick all the best students. There
is no, and I mean no, no mechanism for filtering
students by academic performance, race, or income. The only way

(44:52):
you can get a leg up into getting your kid
into a charter school is to be a founding family,
meaning you have to do all the volunteer hours. And
I know because I was a founding family for a
different charter school that didn't open on time, so we
went to American Academy, So I.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Did all the volunteer hours.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Or you have a child that's already in the school,
you can get an accommodation to get your second child
in the school.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
You guys are killing me right now.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Mandate flashcards in second grade for times tables, cutthroat competition.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Did anybody else have the SRA reading boxes? Does anybody
remember these?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
So the SRA reading boxes, they were like a card
that you took out and then they had a story
on the front of it and some questions. And I
raced through that box of cards. Me and my nemesis,
Randall Murdoch. I should get Randall on the show.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
He's an incredibly successful a journey, but he was my
nemesis in elementary school. Between the SRA cards and the.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Poetry contest, Randall and I were like, ugh, but I
race through the SRA box.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Love that.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Uh, Mandy, it was Obama that put in common Core math.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Common Core has been an.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Absolute disaster, absolute disaster, Mandy. Why do we have teachers unions.
What value do they bring to the educational opportunities for
our kids? Do they have a training program or apprenticeship
program like plumbers or electrical unions? Isn't a teachers' union
contract just a contract that could be ripped up at
any time by the school board.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, but they be sued, you know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pretend that there's zero
value in teachers unions because I honestly don't know that.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
To be true.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Maybe maybe they have some kind of you know, some
kind of something to make teachers better professional development. Maybe
I don't know, but it doesn't appear that they helped much.
Considering that the rise of teachers unions in public education

(47:03):
has coincided with the flatlining of student achievement, and that's
not that that is a true statement. It all started
in the early nineteen seventies, the flat lining of student achievement,
at the same time that teachers unions essentially took over
school boards and began negotiating with themselves. Mandy Everyday math

(47:24):
is a perfect example of useless teachers unions costing us money.
Saxon math is why many students go to charters.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yes it is.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
And my charter school switched from Saxon math to a
different kind of math halfway through my daughter's educational experience,
and I was mad, super mad. Mandy, you understand you
can teach your kids their times tables like you're aware
that parents can also teach their kids things.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
And I did.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
I was talking to my personal trainer yesterday. We were
talking about the fact that a lot of young moms
have really adapted to like grocery delivery right.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
And I get it. Going grocery store shopping is time consuming.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
When you have little kids. It's often an adventure you
don't necessarily want to have.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
But when the queue was little, I taught her so
much stuff in the grocery store. We talked about letters.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
When she was really, really really little, like eighteen months
to two, we worked on letters and colors and numbers,
and then as she got older, we worked on how
to break down how much an item costs per ounce
by looking at the price and then dividing it by
the price to find out how much it costs, you know,
by ounce. And I did so much teaching in the

(48:41):
grocery store, and she was making the point she's like,
I get it. It's convenient, but kids love that, and
it's such a great opportunity to have a really productive
time with your children.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
SRA color coded reading. Yes, oh, Manny.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
My fourth grade girlfriend, I were always vacillating number one
and number two in the Times tables competition, Mandy, I
loved SRA. I also raced through them all for status.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Of course. Yes, you are my people, the people.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
That understand the SRA status in elementary school, you are
my tribe. Yes, SRA reading was great. I too finished second.
I did not finish second. Did I give you the impression.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
That I didn't come in first just because Randall Murdoch
was always there nipping at my heels. If I did,
you are mistaken.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
The SRA reading was where I first found out about
the money pit on Oak Island.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Oh my god, that's hilarious. Oh yes, when I was
a kid, says this texter.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
We have to do multiplication tables through twelve times twelve,
by the.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Way, nine times twelve, one hundred and eight. Moving on.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
This is simple arithmetic. Theoretical math ain't my thing, but
most of applied math is because I had this good start.
A statistician someday we can get into what statistics is, what.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
It isn't, and how is it, how it is misused.
M I had to take statistics in college. It didn't
go well, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
I do recall the SRA cards. Rumor was that it
stood for stupid rotten arithmetic. Some kids, unlike you and me,
I had a bad attitude.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Unlike you and me, I have one child at Mine's
in Golden and one child at Baylor University. Both schools
do not follow any common core math. Kids will have
to relearn, Mandy. Do you and the Queues still like
Taylor Swift despite her endorsement. My daughter probably.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Doesn't care what Taylor Swift thinks about politics, but she
still listens to her music often and relentlessly. She does
not care, Mandy, I should look up Mel Whitworth from
high school. He beat me out of most likely to succeed.
Mel went on to own a sporting goods store. I
became it director of a Colorado state agency.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
M hmm.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Indeed, Steve, Mandy, you must be a natural teacher. All
I did in the grocery store was smacked their hands
when they went for the sweets. This was all about
distract and you know, just distract. No time to linger
on the thing I just said no to when I'm
pointing at the next thing and saying, what is that color?

Speaker 3 (51:21):
In that amazed mom voice. I actually met you in
que at the grocery store when she was about six.
She was at six.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
She has passed the pushed the tiny shopping cart stage,
which was the cutest stage ever. And if anybody listening
works or you know, knows anybody at Natural Grocer, your
tiny shopping carts made you a shopping destination for me
for like three years when I had to shop with
my daughter.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
She loved the tiny shopping cart, loved it, loved it anyway. Uh, Mandy,
the photo wouldn't send. But I'm holding my sixty plus
year old Manila car cardboard.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Addition, subtraction, division, multiplication tables.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Bring them back. That from Rocky Mountain Bronx bill.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Yeah, this person said, so Harris is lying completely about
her childhood, you guys, I don't think she's lying about it.
I think she can't talk about anything else. She keeps
just repeating the same problem over and over again, and
it's like, come on, just come on. Mandy SRA's flash
cards timestables and all that good stuff that is actually

(52:29):
useful works so well for me. I have math through calculus,
three differential equations, linear equations, quantum mechanics, and now work
in the field of solar space and physics. See I
didn't really get that out of the SRA cards and
the flash cards. I got through calculus in high school.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
But business calculus.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Absolutely crushed me in college, crushed my very soul so
much so that I went and changed my major. Math
is not my forte, as Charles Harnington Elster taught us
about fort not forte. Anyway, back to this report from
the Common Sense too. Now I'm having flashbacks to everything
from elementary school, like whacking the erasers. Did anybody else

(53:11):
like fight to take the erasers out? We had this
giant live oak tree and it was probably, I don't know,
maybe let's see how big is that I've got my
arms out. I would say it was probably ten to
twelve feet in diameter, big live oak tree. And that's
where you went to hit the erasers. And you go
out and hit the eraser, you know, against the tree

(53:34):
to get all the chalk out.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Now they don't even have chalk.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
They have smartboards, which are super cool. And I had
so much envy when I go to a modern high
school now or even a modern school. Her charter school
was like this as well, and they have all the technology,
and I just want to look at the kids and
go back.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
When I was a kid. We had got choke on
that chalk dust. None of this fancy tuckstring and stuff.
No way.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Yeah, anyway, Mandy, Singapore math, it teaches them to do. Yeah,
Singapore math is great, but it has now fallen out
of favor because it makes so much sense. Now, in
case you were wondering one more thing about charter schools,
I want to throw up.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
And you should go look at this Common Sense Institute's
study because currently in twenty twenty two twenty twenty three,
one hundred and thirty seven thousand plus Colorado students were
enrolled in a charter school. That's fifteen point six percent
of all public school students in Colorado. If those charter
schools were a single district, it would be the largest

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school district in the state by far, unless you think
that it's just a bunch of white kids out there.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
Since the twenty eleven twenty twelve school year, students of
color have increased their share of charter enrollment by seven
point three percentage points compared to non charter growth of
four point.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Four percentage points.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
In non charter schools, eight eight point five percent of
students are students of color. In charter schools, it's forty
nine point nine percent.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
So the old adage that these.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Are cherry picks students, no African, American or Latin kids,
all of these things are lies, and yet they continue
to perform at a higher level than district schools.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Now, if we were.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Smart, we would send people over from district schools to
collaborate with people in charter schools so we could bring best.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Practices back and forth. But the teachers you knew will
never have that.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
God forbid we should ever work together to make sure
kids are getting a great, great education. Mandy, you forgot
the nun wielding a pointer like a samurai sword. My
nine sister Mary, she had a fly swatter, and if
you were acting up, she would make you pull to
your knee, socks down, and she'd smack the back of your.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Calves with a fly swater.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
It's probably why I've been on the straight and narrow
ever since ladies and gentlemen. And for the person who
said we called it pounding the erasers, Yeah, I think
we did too, now that I'm thinking about it, pounding
the erasers.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Swatting the students. It was a.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Glorious time to be alive. I can't wait to go
to the Ford Amphitheater. I love outdoor music, but it
has not been all fun and games for the people
who live in the neighborhoods around the new Ford Amphitheater,
and joining me now is one of those neighbors.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Jeremy reached out.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Gosh, it's been a few weeks now, Jeremy since you
first reached out to talk about what the noise is
actually really like around the Ford Amphitheater. So let's start
with that. First of all, how far away do you live?
And it's like kind of as the crow flies, Just
give me a rough estimate.

Speaker 7 (56:46):
As the crow flies were a mile out from the Amphitheater.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Okay, so that's a good amount. I mean, that's a
pretty good distance. What have you experienced at your home
a mile away from the Amphitheater.

Speaker 7 (57:01):
So it's been quite the roller coaster. We've had concerts
that have been fairly quiet, and we've had concerts that
have been really loud. On my front porch, I can
sit there during a concert and I can get sixty five,
seventy five, even as high as eighty decibels from the
concert venue. And on a non concert night, I can

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take my same decibel meter out front and I can
sit there and I can get forty five decibels. So
it's it's quite a big shift in sound on the
front porch, and what that translates to inside isn't that
great either. So I can I can take my same
decibel meter and I can get you know, somewhere between
twenty five and thirty decibels when nothing's going on, and

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during a concert, I can get you know, forty forty
five decibels that really penetrating aacy sound that's coming through
the house. So yeah, we've had a few concerts that
haven't haven't been great by any mean.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Just to get people some perspective, I pulled up a
decibel scale. So because you know, when we talk about decibels,
people like I don't know what to.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
To attach that to.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
So according to this scale, eighty decibels is very loud,
and it's a very loud truck, whereas ninety decibels is
a hair dryer. Now when we're dropping back down to
forty decibels that you're getting in your house? Wait during
the concert, how loud does it get in your house?

Speaker 7 (58:26):
I've been getting about forty forty five.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Okay, so you're still talking about rain or a refrigerator running,
but you still hear it inside your home, and you
you're not the only one to be complaining about this.
Tell me what's happened since the Amphitheater opened?

Speaker 7 (58:45):
Yeah, so what's happened since the Amphitheater opened. There's been
a couple of city council meetings where a lot of
folks have spoken. The first city council meeting that occurred
since the Amphitheater opened, we heard the voices from a
lot of concerned and angry neighbors. And then the second
city council meeting that occurred, we heard a lot of

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voices from the owner of the Amphitheater, JW. Rop, and
a lot of his supporters, and then a few additional
concerned neighbors trickling in with that as well, and a
lot of people are just trying to figure out what
they should be doing both to kind of push back
against this amphitheater and as well as what to do

(59:28):
with their personal lives. So, you know, I talked to
a lot of neighbors. Some of them are are indifferent,
some of them kind of enjoy it, some of them
are angry and want to move on to something else,
and anywhere anywhere in that scale where we're seeing our
neighbors reacting.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Well, you know, whenever I see a story where someone
moves next to an airport and then starts complaining about
the airport, I'm like, shut your pie hole. The airport
was there first, but the exact opposite has now occurred here.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
So what happened during.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
The process when the Ford Amphitheater was being approved, When
the permitting was happening, were you guys up to speed
on this was your neighborhood said, look, this could impact you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
You may want to pay attention. What was that like?

Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
So there were two meetings that I attended. There was
an informational meeting that was hosted by the company that
owns the venue that was at Barn Hall here in
Colorado Springs, and same same kind of thing with that. First,
the city council meeting that I mentioned, a lot of concerns,
neighbors coming in and asking questions, trying to figure out

(01:00:38):
what all of this means. And then there was the
city council meeting where the project was approved, same kind
of thing, a lot of people bringing a lot of questions,
a lot of concerns. During that process, we were told
that the amphitheater was not going to pursue a noise
hardship permit because they didn't need it. Surprise, they got

(01:01:01):
a noise surprise, a noise hardship permit anyway, and I
think that is one of the pieces that has a
lot of people upset because if you look at the permit,
there is no upper limit for decibels in that permit.
So what we hear a lot from the city is,
you know, we we put in these noise complaints, and

(01:01:21):
what we hear a lot from the city is, well,
they're in in compliance. They're incompliance, they're incompliance. Well, yeah,
the bar is really both to be in compliance if
there's no limit on the permit. So now that's that's
why a lot of neighbors are upset. And then as
far as the process goes for getting that permit, it's

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there's there are some things that are definitely questionable. For
one thing, that the permit is supposed to be temporary,
and there was an open records request that was submitted
and the North Gates or the North Side Neighbors Association
excuse me UH, discovered that this permit was kind of

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in perpetuity. So there's a permit for all of twenty
twenty four, and there'll be a permit for all of
twenty twenty five, which is not the way that these
temporary noise hardship permits are supposed to work. They're supposed
to be very temporary in cases where a facility needs
additional time to come up to compliance with the city's
noise limitations, or if it's a temporary type venue and

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they can't possibly comply with the noise limitations like those
are the types of things that these permits were designed
to do. So now it's essentially happened is the city
legislated an exception to this noise ordinance specifically for this
one venue, without any sort of legal or democratic process,
and we were the public. There were no public hearings,

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The residents around the venue weren't notified of the noise permit.
There's been no revised ordinance or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Have you had the opportunity to speak with the ownership
of the Ford Amphitheater about potential solutions that could be
installed or put up. There's lots of options for sound
dampening panels and things like this. I used to work
at a restaurant. We started having bands and we had
to put in a lot of these noise mitigation things.
And the company that we worked with, and this was

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thirty five years ago, they had all kinds of outdoor
sound mitigation things that we utilized in addition to some
on the inside.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Are they open to any of that kind of stuff?

Speaker 8 (01:03:34):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (01:03:34):
And right now they have a fifty foot sound wall
and they have some electronic noise mitigation things in place.
They haven't really hard committed to anything. They've committed to
look at different studies, to look at different potential solutions,
but haven't firmly committed on anything yet. I know the

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next phase of the Amphitheater is the build out of
the steakhouse, which will increase the thickness of the sound wall.
Right now it's two feet thick. That will increase the
thickness of it to fifty feet. I don't know how
much the thickness of the sound wall is really going
to matter when you're talking about our homes that are

(01:04:18):
elevated above the sound wall. There has been some talk
about raising the height of the sound wall, but again,
I don't think anything has been been hard committed to
at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
What would you like to see happen here, Jeremy.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
So, I think I'm with the majority of people in
that I want to see some solution in the middle.
I know there are fringe voices that say the amphitheater
needs to go, or on the other side, the residents
just need to deal with it. I don't subscribe to
those fringe voices. I think we're going to land somewhere
in the middle, and unfortunately, I think there's going to

(01:04:56):
be a bit of a fight to get there. But
that's where I hope to be someday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Well, Jeremy, I have a lot of compassion for you
and your neighbors and everybody else who's disturbed by this.
But on the other side, the music lover in me
is excited about having another venue. So I feel I
feel very conflicted. I feel conflicted here, So I do
hope that there can be some kind of resolution that
will continue to you know, create a better atmosphere around

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the venue for you guys, and keep us posting on
what happens.

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
Absolutely I will do. And as a music lover, it
is your job to support those bands as they come
through the different venues that we have around. So you
should come down and you should enjoy that show and
you shouldn't have to feel bad about it. For me,
my job as a resident that's impacted by the noise
is to push back a little bit. So we'll continue
to do to that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
All right, Thanks so much, Jeremy, Yes, thank you. All right.
That is that's that's a tough one, you know, because
people already live there and now here we go. Now
when we get back, I have so much more stuff
on the blog.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
It's not even funny. I'm trying to figure out what
I'm going to do. Oh you know what most gen
X band story ever?

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Yeah, and it involves one of my favorites. I'll be
right back with that. If you, like me, have long
been a fan of the band Jane's Addiction, you'll be
sad to know that their concert in Denver has been canceled.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Why because of fisticuffs between the lead singer, Perry Ferrell,
the notorious material Perry Ferrell and Dave Navarro. They put
this out on their Instagram page to all the fans.
The band have made the difficult decision technically, I just
want to correct the grammar real quick. The band has
made because the band is operating as a singular unit.

(01:06:46):
There the band has made, Okay, I'll just read it.
The band have made the difficult decision to take some
time away as a group. As such, they will be
canceling the remainder of the tour. Refunds for the canceled
dates will be issued at your to purchase or if
you purchase from a third party resale site like stubb Sea, Geek,
et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Please reach out to them. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Jane's addiction this is just It's the ultimate uh gen
X story. My favorite Jane' addiction story is do you
ever dive into something head first and then you realize
at a certain moment that you are not among your people,
like that you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Don't belong wherever you are for whatever reason. I had
one of those moments.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
I was in flight attendant training for Delta, or as
we like to call it back then, Annarexi and Bolimia
camp wait to way in. This was nineteen ninety one.
Less you think it was back in the you know,
ancient times. It was just in the olden times, nineteen
ninety one. Once a week we had to get on
a scale and weigh in, and if you weighed in
over your predetermined maximum three pounds, you went home. No

(01:07:53):
second chance, No I'll take the weight off next week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
None of that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
So every day after we would go through eight hours
of class time or whatever we were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
There was a group of us that we'd go running together.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
And one day we're sitting around after we went for
a run and we all have our walkman's on. This
is like the ultimate nineteen ninety story.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
I have on my walkman on and we're all talking
about what we're listening to, and they're going around. There's
like twelve of us there, right, you know, we're going
around the circle and one of the flight attendant's like,
oh my god, I'm listening to this Madonna album. And
one girl was listening to Paul Abduel, and one girl's
listening to something else. And they get to me, they're like,
what are you listening to I said, I'm listening to
Jane's addiction and.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
They all turned around and went Who's she? And I
had that moment in my head. I was like, I
do not belong here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
These are not of my people.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
But I muddled through and pushed on and loved Jane's
addictions so much, and now they can't even, you know,
not fight And nobody wants to see two guys in
their late fifties fighting, No one, And quick question of
the youth, since you represent all the youth, how interested
are you and seeing two old guys fighting?

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Man, I'm the last person you should ask. You want
to see two old guys fighting?

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
As long as I guarantee it neither they're gonna get hurt.
I'm tired of you, That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
I watched two old guys fighting, and I'm like, somebody's
gonna hit the deck and break a hip and then
where then there's an ambulance, right. I was talking to
a friend of mine about riding horses the other day
and I was like, you know what, at my age,
that just sounds like that's another chance for me to
break my neck that I don't need to experience.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
And I love horseback riding, rope.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Riding horses as a kid, never owned my own horse
or anything like that, but I've always loved it. I
still would like to do that trail ride. I think
it goes from Aspen to Breckinridge over three days. But
that's a lot of time on a horse for somebody
who doesn't spend a lot of time on a horse.
But I won't be seeing Jane's addiction, and neither will you.
No one will be seeing them. Okay, we're gonna do

(01:09:52):
a two minute drill when we get back a rod
because I got a bunch of stories, a bunch of stories,
including one about let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Well, I'll just tell you when we get back in
just a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
There's an interesting video at the bottom of the blog,
and I'm you know, I'm loathed to share it because
I'm sure Kyle Clark will send out a tweet that
I'm being irresponsible by sharing this because I but I
don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Luckily, since Kyle declined to come on this program, I
don't really care what he thinks about anything.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
I invited him on to have a conversation. We could
have chatted, we could have found areas of commonality.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
But no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
No, So today on the blog, I do have a
video that is an American trucker who says that he
was parked at a lot in Aurora when a group
of Venezuelan gang members rolled up into the lot and
went truck to truck demanding fifty dollars or they were

(01:10:58):
gonna be sorry in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
One guy didn't pay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
All of his tires are flat. The next morning, all
of the tires. Now I've been told this and I
don't know if it's accurate. If one of your tires
is flat, that's not an insurance claim. If all of
your tires are flat, your insurance will pay for it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Is that true?

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Let me know on the text line two minute drill
coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
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Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
The two minute drill at two Hey, we're go to
two minute warnings rapid fire stories of the day that
we don't have more time for pick check.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Let's call.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
This will take longer than two minutes. Are up. Here's
Mandy Connell.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
All my friends in breaking news from the rap world
that will surely tell me how old you are based
on what you think. This man is called Sean Ditty
Combs is now a criminal defendant in a sex trafficking, racketeering,
and kidnapping case after being invited indicted by a grand jury.
He's been charged with three counts racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking

(01:12:23):
by force, fraud or coercion, and transportation.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
To engage in prostitution.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Now, because I have to operate under an FCC license,
I cannot tell you any of the details of this
case because there is no way to dress it up.
But P Diddy not a nice man, of course. I
remember when he was called puff Daddy. Now he's p Ditty.
Now he's just Diddy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
But the real question is did he do it? We'll
have to wait and find out. That's literally the only
reason I just said that story was so I could say,
Diddy do it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Go drill it too.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Interesting study out of Culder, they've studied the connection between
wildfire smoke exposure and mental illness in youth. Researchers looked
at data from ten thousand kids between the ages of
nine and eleven from across the country and compared it to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Air pollution levels where those children live.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
The main finding was that both boys and girls, a
higher number of days above the EPA standards was associated
with increased anxiety and depression symptoms. And then, obviously correlation
does not mean causation, but it certainly does sort of
create a question. Is it because you're breathing stuff in

(01:13:36):
or is it because during really bad days you're trapped
inside your house because nobody wants to go outside.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
But the study SMELL found a small correlation between the
number of days and an environment above the EPA's safety
standards for fine particulate air pollution and the number of
patients in the study who reported their children's suffering from
mental health illnesses like anxiety and depression. Blame California, everybody
for all of our mental illness woes, because that's where

(01:14:04):
all the smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Is coming from. Right now, Rill it too, now, drill
it too. I just said it by accident.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
This is it in the button a rod to see
if you are one of those weirdos who love spiders
and tarantlas.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Your time is upon us now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
If you're just new to Colorado and you don't know
about what's called the tarantula migration, buckle up, brothers and sisters,
because this is the creepiest thing that happens in our state.
Once a year, all of the male tarantulas come out
of there wherever they are, and they walk around looking
for a female and knock up to propagate the species. Now,

(01:14:42):
it looks like a great migration because they're just tarantula's
walking all over the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Place in the Junta and ew, have you ever gone
up there to see this arod?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Would you? Hell no?

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
I wouldn't either. I mean, don't get me wrong. When
I find when you find a spider in your house,
what do you do with it a rod? Do you
kill it or do you take it outside?

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
I usually kill it. I take it outside. I mean,
I'm a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Because we're on the same side, right. They hate bugs,
I hate bugs.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
We're good, we're golden.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
We have a great relationship with tarantulas. They're big, they're furry.
I'm pretty sure they can jump. No, no, no, and
more no hard.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Pass it too. So after waiting over a year to.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Unveil their reservation system. The first day that Cassabanita put
reservations online turned out to be a giant debacle.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
One user on Reddit said.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
It best when they said, this is like trying to
get Taylor Swift's Eras tour tickets, but for a restaurant.
What happened, Well, it seems about I don't know, fifty
thousand people logged in at the same time to try
and get reservations. Now, the reservations were only for October
and November. A second q opened at three pm, but

(01:15:55):
users faced all kinds of issues errors on the website,
They saw their selected slats taken by others. There was
a frustrating trial and error process where they had to
repeatedly adjust times and dates and party sizes before the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
System would finally confirm the booking. Let's just say it
didn't go smoothly.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
And here's the thing, don't I don't like at some
point I might go to Casabanita again.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
But fifty thousand people all done at the same time
to go to Casabanita. I mean, what.

Speaker 7 (01:16:29):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Drill? It too good news for you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
People like me who have not actually made it up
to the ice castle thing have you ever done the
ice castle sing a rod where they make the big
ice castle somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
They used to do it in Dylan. Yeah, I saw
it in Dylan. It was awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Well, it's coming back to Cripple Creek. It apparently was
successful enough last year at Cripple Creek that the town
is happy to have it back. The mayor says, we
are in the process of finalizing the agreement with Ice
Castles and it will be back in Cripple Creek.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
So I'm going this year. I'm going it. I'm going
I'm doing it, the mayor.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Just the mayor said the ice Castles was overwhelmingly successful
upon its melt off in March. There was an eleven
week run that started December nineteenth. So we will find
out where it's going to be, but I will let
you know because.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
How cool is that? I mean, just how cool is that?

Speaker 8 (01:17:22):
It too?

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
And finally, if you've ever wondered what kind of chemicals
leach into our food from the packaging, well you're not alone.
First of all, I've never wondered this. I didn't even
want to know this, and now that I know it,
I'm not going to be the only one that knows this.
You're going to know it too, Okay. Shrink wraps sealed
around a raw piece of meat, takeout containers filled with leftovers,

(01:17:45):
plastic bottles filled with soft drinks. These are all of
the forms of plastic that we put our face on
every single day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
And of the roughly fourteen.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Thousand known chemicals in food packaging, three thousand, six hundred
and one of them, about twenty five percent have been
found in the human body, whether in samples of blood, hair.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Or breast milk.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
We are walking talking plastic right now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
We're practically recyclable. These are things I don't want.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
To know, and yet now I do, and now you
do too. There you go, ladies and gents, the two
minute trail. So yeah, that's freaky. And by the way,
we have no idea what all of these plastics are
doing to our body. Are they giving us more cancer?
Are we gonna die earlier? Are we gonna age better
because part of us is made of plastic? Now we'll

(01:18:34):
just cut out the middleman, plastic surgeon. It's just bam,
right there, your face starts to look like a spray bottle. Anyway,
you should read that story. It's kind of interesting. But
it made me very happy that I never became a scientist,
because listen to this. Okay, so this scientist, let me
get her name, the chief scientific officer of the Food
Packaging Forum, the one who wrote this paper.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
She said this, She recalled.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
She recalled a recent flight where she was given a
tiny container of salad dressing. They served the salad with
a fifteen milliliter little plastic bottle with olive oil and
vinegar that you could pour over it. I thought, well,
I'm not doing that. Can you imagine how limiting it
must be to know all of the things that are
going to kill you. I would prefer to just live
in the dark. Speaking of the dark, are the lights

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going out on remote work?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
We'll find out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
But I got a story about it next, the company
that has made it so we never have to leave
our homes, right, I mean, if you can't get it
on Amazon, do you really need it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
No, you don't, You really don't. Amazon is now requiring
workers to be in the office five days a week
starting next year. And I knew that that remote work
would not loved further.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
And I loved it when all these young people were like, no,
this is that's going to be for the rest of time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
We're never going to come back in the office again.
It's gonna be amazing and we're gonna be working in
our jennies till we die.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
No, child, that is not what's going to happen, because
like it or not, there's a lot of stuff that
gets done in the office. Hey, Ron, have you enjoyed
having our coworkers back in the building, because, like, our
sales team is back in the building much more than
they have been. I like it because otherwise I'm in

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that big space over there by.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Myself, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
Well, someone that's always here in the studio working, you know,
it doesn't really impact me too much.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
That's true. I'm always doing something.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
But don't you always like bump into people in the
kitchen area, have a little chit chat.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
How things go in? Yeah, people in my way? Oh
my gosh, that's a microwave. Such a sour puss. We
had an extra microwave up here. I hate the microwave
we have now. I hate the drawer microwaves. They're made
for short people. Drawer microwaves suck.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Let me just open up my dictionary and take a
little picture of you first world problems.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Yeah, there you are. I don't like them. They're all
at my knees. I got a bag.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Yeah, yeah, Like I'm not a fan. I know that
esthetically they leave your countertops clear, but I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:21:16):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
I don't like the drawer. So other than that, yeah,
I mean, I guess it's all right.

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
And and there are a lot of things, a lot
of conversations that I have with salespeople, especially that I
wouldn't have because I don't see them. They see me
and they're like, oh, I've been meaning to ask you this,
And they ask me a question, or they uh say hey,
or I say hey, I just had a great experience
with this potential client. Can you go check it out.
I mean, there's a lot of that that goes on.
But I find it interesting that tech is going back

(01:21:41):
to the office. CEO Andy Jesse came out and said
in a message shared with employees that the company's leadership
have been thinking in recent months about how to better quote, invent, collaborate,
and be connected enough to each other to deliver are
the best results for customers and the business. And starting

(01:22:05):
in January January second, twenty twenty five, all employees will
be back into Amazon's office five days a week. This
is going to be the only thing that starts to
revive downtowns like ours, is that businesses start requiring their
people to go back in the office five days a week.

(01:22:25):
But a lot of businesses have given up their office
space to downsize. So it's kind of interesting. I wonder
how many of you in this listening audience who have
been working remote and loving it, or maybe working remote,
And you know, I loved working remote, but I do
realize I did miss people that I got to that

(01:22:47):
I get to see here. I do, I you know,
because a lot of people that I work with I
genuinely like, but we're not really outside of work friends.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
A lot of them are a lot younger than me.
And what am I going to do hanging out in
bars with them?

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
No, no, I want to be the elder friend they
come to for advice, you know, with my wizend cane
and my sage look like.

Speaker 10 (01:23:11):
Oh yes, child, what is your problem? I can help
you fix it? Just listen to my advice, because it's
amazing advice. Not that I ever take any of my
own advice, but when other people take it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
It's outstanding.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
I'd love to know if you are being told to
go back to the office, or if you've already been
told to go back to the office. I do think
it's kind of interesting that the job market is slowing
right now. And I'm not sure what the tech job
market is like, but as the overall job market slows,
I'm guessing tech is also slowing down a little bit,
and that means that employees have fewer options. Mandy, I

(01:23:52):
miss the camaraderie, the building of teamwork.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
But I enjoy working remote better and I just don't
think that it is going to I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
I think eventually everybody's going to be back in the office.
There'll be a few organizations that make it work. But
what would entice you to come back to the workplace
if you're a remote worker? Still, what's funny is I
probably have far fewer remote workers that I used to
have regular workers, because when people work at home, they're
listening habits change work remotely not remote.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Does it really matter?

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
I mean, really does it matter remote work? It's I
think we mincing words. You mince away five six six
nine zero is the common Spirit health text line love
to know your thoughts on working remotely or remote work
or working remote whichever tickles your fancy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Five six six nine zero is the text line.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
And when we get back, I've got that, and we
got to talk more about the exploding page because his
story is just absolutely incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
We'll do that next.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
Amazon is now announced that's starting January second, all employees
must be in the office five days a week because
they feel like they get better out of their employees
with that, and many of you have weighed in, Mandy.
Tech jobs started coming back asap. But office is mostly
a ghost town, my sanctuary. That's how it was here

(01:25:26):
for a long time, because where I sit with all
the salespeople, right So I sit with the salespeople, and
when they weren't in the office, I was just sitting
there by myself. Mailman here, I've been trying to work
from home for years. I don't understand why I can't
just deliver emails. Aren't you a funny monkey? Everyone I

(01:25:48):
know has been working at the office for the last
three years. Mandy, my wife would go back to the
office if everybody else was working remotely. You know what,
that's that's a way to do it. I've worked remotely
for fifteen years, so much more productive.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
I do think that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
For me, I love working from home because it eliminated
the one hour and fifteen minutes a day that I'm
in my car getting to and from work. So I
consider that an hour and fifteen minutes of lost productivity. Anyway, Mandy,
it would take a raise and a four day work
week to make me go back. And you know how
I feel about the four day work week. I am

(01:26:27):
pro four day work week, although I don't know if
I would ever get a four day work week.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
I'm pro, very pro.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
In my honest opinion, working remotely only benefits the employee,
as production is probably at fifty percent, so the parent
company is losing out. Now, there have been some studies
that I have seen that say productivity goes up. But
and this is a big butt, I think that after
a certain period of time it begins to sort of

(01:26:53):
diminish after that. So I just had a text or say,
I've done some studies on this, will send him to you.
So I said, please send him to me. I'd like
to see him, Mandy. I worked from home and have
ever since the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
I like it better. I get more done, and I have,
and I saved more time not commuting. So Texter, what
would you do if they told you you had to
come back in the office.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
This person said, I've been remote work since two thousand
and seven, with a couple of periods of go back
to the office for a couple of months here and there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
But right now the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Closest office to me is more than one thousand miles
in any direction.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
So hopefully I never get told I have to go
back to the office.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
If Tech really wanted to do layoffs without being the
bad guy or girl, they could just say everybody has
to be back in the office and let the employees
sort themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Tech has slowed significantly over the past year. Every day
there are more layoffs in the Tech Center. Verizon announced
five thousand workforce reduction last week.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
That from Kevin Mandy, I do miss.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Going to the office because a lot is lost in
so many different ways, but I had a long commute,
so I don't miss it as a single It's good
to be home for the furnace checkup and other services
that I need that requires someone to be home to
let the service people in.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
One of the things that the switch to remote work.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Really did was make it so anybody should be able
to say, Look, I've got a repairman coming to the
home today, I'm going to be working for home today.
That should never be an issue anymore because we all know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
We can do it. We all know what that looks like.
I mean, my gosh, we now have meetings here where
everybody's sitting in their cubicle on the computer at the meeting.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
And everybody's in the building. So yeah, technology has changed everything.
What a boomer take on remote works? They'd have to
pay me double to come back into the office, Mandy.
I wish they'd give me a safe and a crypto
so I could do classified from home. Yeah, that's probably
not going to happen. Mandy was hired as a one

(01:29:02):
hundred percent remote worker. I'm not within a day's drive
of any of my company offices.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
First half of twenty twenty four, tech laid off ninety
eight thousand companies like Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Et cetera. But the thing about tech is that, yeah,
you can work for one of the biggies.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
But at this point, so many companies have in house
tech that I feel like your job may significantly change.
But my son just moved from one a tech company
to a children's hospital in their tech department with his
tech skills, and it's been a big change for him,

(01:29:42):
but he really really likes it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
The biggest change time off. What do you mean, I
only have two weeks, big change. I haven't worked in
the office in years, says this text. Or I hate
going there, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
I cannot edit the previous message, but I have been
backflows certified.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Since Oh this is an old one. Those are uh,
that's an old text. Back to the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
UH call.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Most of the people listening right now probably didn't even
hear our backflow interview with mister Body.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
So I have an occupa.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
I am an occupational therapist, and I could think of
nothing worse than working remote During COVID, I felt very
ineffective and disconnected with my clients. In healthcare, the trend
is to push more and more towards telehealth because you
can be a lot more hours when.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
You're not in person.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
However, I feel like it's completely ineffective and I don't
feel ethical providing telehealth services.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
I think there are some services that should never.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Be given telehealth, physical therapy, occupational therapy. I mean, you
guys are very hands on, and people learn from watching
what you do. Mandy, I work for Amazon at a
sortations center, so I do not work in an office.
But various times I've had to call an internal Amazon

(01:30:56):
representative for employee resources and they answered the phone from home,
which is perfectly fine with me, except when their.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Kids, in pets and sometimes even next door neighbors interrupt the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Phone call right along with the representative, rushing you off
the phone so they can go get in the shower.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
I applaud the move for the return to Amazon offices.
So what's going to be interesting is they have a
ton of.

Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
People that work in logistics that have always been fully remote.
So I guess they don't mean them. Mandy's state government
worker here. We were just informed of mandatory return to
office two days weekly at my agency.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Why are state.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Workers still at home? I mean, no offense, but why
why I'm trying to think of. I mean, I guess
they can do their jobs from there. That may explain
the permitting holdups.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
I would love to work remotely, but I've never had
the opportunity, says this person.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
My wife works from home three out of the five
work days. She much prefers it she gets to sit
in the backyard and do or work in nice weather.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
I prefer myself to be in the office. I was
not productive at home, too many distractions. I'm good at
home now because where my office is in my house,
and I don't have some mega mansion by any stretch
of the imagination. I have a dedicated office space in
my basement that doesn't even have any windows, so there's

(01:32:21):
very little to distract me. And I'm far enough away
from the activity of the house and I don't hear anything.
It would be really hard for me to try and
work from home in some of the situations that I've
worked from home in the past, where I kind of
had my stuff set up on the kitchen table, that
kind of stuff. I really do think it matters what
kind of person you are in what kind of space

(01:32:42):
you're actually in. Mandy, my company was virtual when I
joined twelve years ago. Then we got an office, but
nobody wanted to go there, so we decided to go
back to virtual pre COVID so much better, So much better,
all right, Lol. Can't work remotely when your job actually

(01:33:03):
keeps society growing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
And moving sometimes yes, sometimes tech recruiter here.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
You're correct, tech has shifted, but not downsized. I'm a
boomer who's worked from home for twenty years. My husband
also works from home, which is a challenge. Sometimes. I
don't know that Chuck and I could survive that. I'm
just gonna be honest, if we were both working full
time jobs from home.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
I just I don't feel good about that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
You know, I always look at couples that work together
and live together and love together, and they're together all
the time and they're never.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Not together, And part of me is jealous, but part
of me is like, oh no, no, I adore my husband.
I do not like working with my husband, do not.
Jocelyn and his wife work together. They have all kinds
of side hustles. I mean a Rod and Jocelyn his wife.
How much time to you and Jocelyn work together every week?

(01:34:01):
A Rod? Because you guys are like that. You work together,
you live together, you're married, you love together. I mean,
you guys work a lot together, don't you.

Speaker 5 (01:34:10):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:34:10):
And no.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
So many side hustles were often like split into different
directions doing those.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Oah, well that see that probably makes it better. I
think you got it, it's hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
You know, there's value in missing someone occasionally, you know
what I mean. Were you so happy to see your
wife when we got back from the conventions.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
Yes, but mind you also, we still haven't caught up
in time because we did two years of long distance.
Oh yeah, so we want all the time possible. There's
two years of long distance. Came and visited every month
for two years. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
I was traveling after college, trying to get back home
for work, and then you made it here and then
made it here big time, big I heart, Yeah, I heart,
I heart. Chuck just sent me a text.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
What's funny about that is I don't think he can
work with me either. We both have very different working styles.
He is super organized, he's a list maker. He is
like super squared away and buttoned up, and I am
more like, yeah, who you know?

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Is that is Joscelyn the organized winner? Either organ you're
a very organized winners, say you are very If Jocelyn
is more organized than you, I don't even see how
that's possible. You guys should have seen a Rod's carry
bag from all his tech equipment.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
He had a backup upon a backup, upon a backup
at the convention. It's pretty amazing. It was very impressed.
Just meant, when I forgot something, I was like, a rod.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
You got this. He did, He did all the time.
So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
I think that more and more companies are going to
demand that people come back into the office, and there's
not a whole lot we can do about it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
I have a bunch of stuff on the blog today, including.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Something that was blasted all over X today, and then
I continued looking trying to find out a little bit
more about the story.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
You might see it, so I wanted to put it
on the blog.

Speaker 7 (01:36:06):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
Actually I want to do the Ohio story first, because I.

Speaker 5 (01:36:08):
Didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Yester Nana forgot. So the governor of.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Ohio has now come out and said two things. Number one,
Haitians are not eating pets. There's a video circulating that
Christopher Rufo has that purports to show Africans grilling cats
in their backyard from last summer and in Dayton, Ohio.
But I got to tell you, I looked at that thing,
and looked at that thing, it very well could be chickens,

(01:36:35):
whole chickens, because you could lay a whole chicken on
a grill and its legs would pop up. I don't know,
but the governor is also telling us that the bomb
threats that the news media cannot get enough of covering
have come from one foreign source and they are fake
and hoaxes.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
So those are two things. So pets not being eaten,
and the woman that started the rumor.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Of Haitian's eating pets in Ohio has now come out
and said, hey, I posted that I had zero evidence
and it turned into something I was not expecting and
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
So can we all be done with that. Let's thing
number one.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
If you want to talk about the impact that bringing
a culturally different, large group of people into a smaller
community can have, then let's have that conversation. But let's
not talking about eating pets and stuff anymore. Second thing
I want to throw in here one more time today
on ax good Brian Everards just started laughing when I

(01:37:36):
said that was true, Ran, We're not going to talk
about that anymore. So there's a video of a guy
named Jeremy Coffin who got visited by the FBI, and
he said, the FBI visited my house today for free
speech acts. They knew were not crimes. You can see
the shame on their faces. This is the democratic regime
manifest So I watched it because I'm down, I'll watch
and as a guy asserting his rights, demanding to see

(01:37:57):
identification from the f agents, giving them a reasonable amount
of guff and they left rather than show him ID
because he was filming them.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
So why did the FBI show up in the first place?
Because he's part of the Libertarian.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Party of New Hampshire and he tweeted out anyone who
murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
So that's the rest of that story. And it's like, yo,
can we.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
Just stop issuing death threats for anybody or even an
implied death threat or even suggesting I mean, why do
you think I spend so much time on the show
saying things like before I say this, to be clear,
I don't want anybody to assassinate anybody else rights. I
want to be perfectly clear that nobody's going to come

(01:38:44):
and say, oh I heard that on the Mandy Connell Show.
That's not going to happen because political violence is It's
just again, we've had two assassination attempts against Donald Trump
in this election season. Two that's enough. I feel like,
choose the number. You know, when I go out and

(01:39:05):
I have cocktails. Ryan Edwards, what's your number? What's your
drink limit? Do you have a drink limit?

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
You may not be old enough to have a drink
limit yet, No, I I absolutely am. That's very kind
of you to say something like that my limit. Man, Yeah,
choose it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
I mean, first of all, drink responsibly.

Speaker 8 (01:39:21):
But I I say yeah at this point, I mean
I actually haven't had a drink in like six months.
But but I I'd say, yeah, in general, one or
two is probably good.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
After two, things could go in a direction that you know,
I don't feel any better.

Speaker 8 (01:39:37):
It doesn't it doesn't help. Well, that's exactly right. Like
it becomes like a diminishing returns kind of thing. Yeah,
you know where they're like, it's just it's one of
those deals. Yeah, you just like, I'm not gonna feel
great after this.

Speaker 6 (01:39:49):
I can't.

Speaker 8 (01:39:49):
When I was younger, I could do any kind of
day drinking. It was funny, which and everybody was, you know,
completely hammered there, and I'm just thinking to myself, No,
I don't think I could do any of this.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
No, I'm day drinking. Forget about it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
Like if I'm going to brunch, yeah, I'm going home
to go to bed at like two o'clock in the afternoon,
I'm taking a nap for three and a half hours.
I'm getting up feeling horrible, and then I'm going to
bed at like seven thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
That's that's what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
Day drinking is No, that's not a thing. Are you
old old drinking? No, never happening.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
No, No, those days are long, pa, And I've I've
waxed poetic about my younger days when we would go
to a happy hour at four and.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Get home at four Oh my gosh. Oh yeah, those
were when I was youthful and I had exuberance, you
know you, and I went to work next Yeah, that's right.
That's the other part about it.

Speaker 8 (01:40:42):
I often remember think about my twenties when I because
I was a banker at that time, Oh god, and
we would go out at night because you know you whatever,
you and I'd wake up at seven o'clock in the
morning and go into and do banking all day and
then go back out that night. And we just did
that every single day. And I can't even fathom.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
No that right now? No, No, that's I'm fined like
I already.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
You know why people that are over fifty are boring
because we already did it, Like right, we already did it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
You don't have to stop doing it, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
I'm just going to make sure that I follow and
stay in touch with Anthony Rodriguez right for the rest
of my life. So when he turns fifty, I'm gonna
be like, Yo, how's that day drinking a night drinking
thing going a rod.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
That's all right? How's it going? This segment brought to
you by AARP. By the way, just I mean, I
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Speaker 8 (01:41:35):
You understand, there's really some great benefits. Kidding my parents
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Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
My house right about now. Okay, they are plying like
I can wallpaper, I.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Can I can sign, Yeah, I can resign my house
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right now, Ryan, apologies, thank you, and now it's time
for the most exciting segment all three others. Guy of
the Don't Break a Hip. That was a good one. Man,

(01:42:06):
Don't Break a hip. Yeah, you should have seen it.
Looks like I got like at the bar last day.

Speaker 8 (01:42:10):
Yeah, they were like that, guys, he's wearing a party
and then all of a sudden, I'm screaming in the
world and there's just wait.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
One, Yeah, what what's happening? And it is pickleball? So
was the crowd there? You know, I might have missed
somebody up.

Speaker 7 (01:42:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Oh yeah, there you go. What is our dad joke
of the day, please, Anthony? This one is perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
Tried mixing Mexican alcohol with twentieth century American literature last night.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Ended up with tequila mockingbird. Oh that's good. I like
that one a lot too. That was a very good one.

Speaker 8 (01:42:38):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
What is our word of the day please? It is
a verb verb. You probably have heard it. You know
exactly what it means. Dally d a l l y,
to lag behind, to dilly dally. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
It has multiple meanings, so dally can be the physically lingerer, yeah,
or to waste time. Daly may also mean to act playfully,
so kind of both.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Oh, okay, that you know anyway. Today's trivia question. From
the sixteenth to eighteenth centuries, a large bass loot with
an extremely long neck and two peg boxes was used
in song accompaniments. What was this instrument called what I

(01:43:18):
feel like we should know a card? No, I'm getting
a new one. It's called the thear Beau. Now how
about this one? Who is the first?

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
What us town is known as the artichact artistic capital
of the world is a Sacramento. It's California. They grow
everything in California. So now I am right about California.
I am wrong about Sacramento. It's Castroville, California.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Nearly all the.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
World's commercially grown artichokes come from California. Castroville is a
major producer. There you go, good artist jokes, spinach tip,
It is a chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
It is a chick.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Appetizer, but I still love it. So yeah, what is
your category? Taking knee and my knee?

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
I spell it n e e which means every answer
has an e okay word. Someone in the running for
an Emmy or a Tony, I think?

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
And what is a nominee correct? A scornful lip curling
facial expression as n E N manny? What is a smear?
That's good? That's good?

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
A Native American people who lived in the Platte River
or Leslie Nope's fictional Indiana Townian Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Ryan, Oh, I don't know. No, that would be a
good answer though, because it does have to an ee.
What is pawnee?

Speaker 5 (01:44:45):
Okay, it didn't sound right in my head anyways, So Captain,
I think it's pronounced bly suffered the wrath of a
group of them. Why also, watch out, bire, This will
be bad for you. Pirate captain leader Johnny Depp don't

(01:45:08):
know mutineers.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Oh, dang it, mutineers.

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
I was going with mutiny, but I knew that was
not spelled that way. It is two to minus one, all.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Right, thank you? Lee makes these long jawed pliers.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
What is needle news?

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
That is param Johnny, you never watched Parks and rec
watch parks and re cool squares?

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Okay, So here's what we've established in the last five minutes.
We're old, we can't hold our liquor, and we don't
watch the cool shows that the kids watch.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
So nap time and wish you could take a nap time.
Coming up next tap yoka for everyone. We will be
back for a big half hour show tomorrow because

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
Baseball eats the show, but it'll be the best dang
half hour on a Wednesday you've ever spent so tune
in for that tomorrow on Koa