September 20, 2024 • 19 mins
WHAT'S IT LIKE RACING CARS? I've got Paul Himler, one of the drivers who speed the raceway on Saturday night in to share a bit about that at 2:30.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Paul Himmler, he is Little Drummer Boy, but he was
white Chocolate.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
First of all, if I become a race car driver, Paul,
do I get to choose my own nickname.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
You can try to choose it, but normally the race
car drivers around you will help and create one that
flattering thought.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So you used to be white chocolate. Yes, and that came.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
From people have seen me dance and we tend to
be the party trailer at the end of the night,
and a Rod comes around to visit us, and since
I'm a white guy and I dance like Mika Jackson.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
He thinks he can.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh no, wow, Arod.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just kicking you right under the bus there, that's.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What that was.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, we've had a friendly competition at the track and
he did lose.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Is there any itch worm going on? Is there? Inchworm?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Is there?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Slow bot? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's a little bit of everything. It's mostly eighties and
nineties kind of hip hop stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Nice, it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And then little drummer Boy is what you've been named
by Anthony?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, he gave that to me. He I play in
an eighties band.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm a drummer, and he came to see one of
our gigs and came away with little drummer boy.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So it's kind of stuck.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Well, a fantastic drummer. I'm a million times better than
a dancer.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Let me ask this question about your eighties band, because
I just went and watched an eighties band and I
found myself paul out on the dance floor with a
bunch of elderly people, and I was shocked and confused
by this, and then I realized I am very quickly
becoming an elderly person.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, there is that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The band is named Stereo Collision, and although most of
the patrons are my age I'm fifty eight, we do
have a younger crowd, and even my kids that are
in their younger twenties, they tend to come out and
just love the music.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
A lot of sensible shoes in that crowd.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah. So let's talk.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
About racing cars. How did you get into racing cars?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So back in the day, to blow time off on
a Saturday, my wife and I used to go to
the racetrack color On National Speedway, and they had things
called circle drags where everybody can get in their daily driver,
their minivan, their work truck, whatever they had during intermission
and run around and compete. And I did that four
different times and we won it. And the last time
I did it, I as I spun and almost hit
the wall and my wife said, you're you're an.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Idiot, Like, what are you in a Volvo? What are
you driving around the nice track.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Of a Polyac G eight. It's it's a fairly high
power car. Yeah, And she said, you know what, you're
an idiot. Why don't you just go buy a race car?
And I'm like, what did you eat?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And then she wanted to just shove those words back
in her mouth, but it was too late.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They were already out in the ether.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
They were and kind of the rest is history. We
investigated a legend car to start off with.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And what is the legend car? I know nothing about
this kind.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Of race there. That's the one on the back of
my shirt. It's a small, like a third scale race car.
It's got a motorcycle motor in it and forty horse
powers basically a souped up go kart, very souped up
gold cart.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And there's like thirty to forty of them on the
racetrack at one time, so it's very competitive.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
A lot of the NASCAR guys start in these cars. Yeah,
so they do well.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Then do they count as a funny car?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
They do not.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What is a funny car?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Funny cars? Dragsters? Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
we go circle circle.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, drag racing is a whole different beast.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I've never been to a louder sporting event, and I've
been to monster trucks in an arena. Never been to
a sporting event louder than drag racing. I had earplugs,
I had headphones, and it still made my ears ring
the next day.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Crazy, It's insane, and we're pretty loud at the track.
So I got a car, started racing one year. We
went to nationals our first year. Then my daughter, who's
never been in a stick shift or a race car,
wanted to get into it, and so we bought her
a car and she's been racing that ever since. I know,
she is twenty four now, So how long has she
been racing since seventeen?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh wow, a long time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah. We started late in our life.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Most of these people that are good race car drivers
are starting at four and a half five years old
and working their way. Sure.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I tried to get the queue behind the wheel at
four and five, but she was like, no, Mommy, I
want to play with dolls. You kind of come from
a family of speed freaks.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We do.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, it's been a big family affair. My other daughters
are pit crew. She's also our spotter, so she's involved.
My wife takes care of all the race day preparations
and all of the cooking and alcoholic beverages that are particular.
Absolutely takes care of all the music, all that good stuff.
(04:25):
And my father was into cars back in the day.
And then of course my brother used to fly jets
with the Blue Angels, so he's a speed freak as well.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So have you always been a thrill seeker?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You know, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I've been involved in competitive sports my whole life, and
ever since my body has deteriorated, I need something to
fill that void, and something came along and it was racing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Now, what are your what are your goals or aspirations?
Is this just a fun hobby at this level and
that's where it is for you? Does your daughter have
any aspirations of going further and trying to become a professional.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We'd like to say yes, but that's not really reality.
We go out to have fun. The biggest and most
important part of our night is at the end of
the night when they open up the pits for all
the fans to come back and sign autographs. The huge
line is always behind my daughter's race car, all the women,
even the men, the young girls. That that's what we
really live for, is to thank you very much, ay Rod,
(05:24):
That's what we live for. We are not financed by
any and we have no sponsorships. It's all out of
pocket for us, and so it's just a local thing.
We have a great racetrack here in Colorado and we
just go out to have fun.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I was gonna ask you when you start buying race cars,
I mean, what are you expending in a year on
this hobby? And if you ever added it up and
then told your wife what she started and blame it on.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Her, that's what I would do.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I would know it's a lot of money. We don't
add it up.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
We try to create a budget at the beginning of
the year, and this year we got into four different
wrecks and it just destroyed our budget. Within a month
of the race season. It's it's rather expensive. They try
to keep the price down. The track does a good
job at that. But to buy a race car like
that's on my shirt that my daughter runs is about
fifteen to twenty thousand dollars to start to move up,
(06:16):
and to run a Grand American Modified or a pro truck,
you're talking twenty to forty five thousand dollars for the vehicle. Right,
You've got weekly maintenance, you got to buy tires, you
got to buy fuel. That's ten dollars a gallon at
the racetrack. So it adds up because you're not.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Using like you're not pulling up the costco and gassing
up the race.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No man, no man, We have to use one hundred
and ten octane at the racetrack.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
One hundred ten octane.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yes, ma'am. That's insane. It burns pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And how much do you go through in a night.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It's not a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
In her car, she'll run through maybe five gallons. Yeah,
in the big trucks, you'll double that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Have you ever gotten into an accident? It almost died.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
We've gotten into some pretty bad accidents.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I've been knocked out, unconscious, had to be taken a
hospital three times.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
My daughter has been taking a hospital twice.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So it's a it's a rough sport, But I tell
you what, I'd rather be strapped into a race car
going as fast as we are versus going down I.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Twenty five in my daily driver without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is that because the drivers at least on the racetrack
and theory have some kind of training and you you know,
you have a little more control in that situation.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
No, it's just the safety gear we wear is insane.
You're in a fire shuit, you got a Han's device on,
You're strapped in like a fighter jet, and the cars
are built to take those kind of hits.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
What do you mean those kind of hits? What does
that mean?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So, can I try to avoid anything that involves me
getting hit by anything in any way, shape or for it?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, normally, Now I don't say normally.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Every now and again you will bump against another competitor
and if you're unlucky, you will then hit the concrete wall.
So when you tend to hit a concrete wall, that's
what they say. Yeah, when you had a concrete wall
at eighty five miles an hour, it tends to leave
a mark.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
How much do you spend or not?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
How much time do you spend repairing the body of
these cars.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
After a race.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
When I first got into racing, and I just thought
you'd show up on a Saturday night, strap yourself in,
go out and have fun. I never knew that it
was this much work. We're working on race cars every
day of the week, every day and then.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But you're doing this as a family.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
We are. My daughter works on her own car.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
She'll get in there and wrench on, change oil, just
she'll take motors out herself, put them back in.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's a huge family event.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I just go ahead and get her number now
For all the guys that are about to text me.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And say I'd like to meet this woman, that would
be so awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
She is so in need of a guy. When they
just put that out there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know you're listening that your daughter is now screaming
at the radio right now.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, So I think this is.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
The cool way.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean, if if the whole family's involved, then then
it is your family hobby and it it probably you
guys probably spend more time to get because of it.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Oh, we do and to have girls involved with it.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There's not a lot of ladies out there at the track,
and it's just a huge thing to get young girls
into racing and to get young drivers into racing. And
that's what we're trying to show. We're trying to build
a sport. We're trying to keep our track here in
Colorado alive. There's a lot of other tracks that have
closed down recently, and so we're very fortunate to have
a great track literally in my backyard.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It's five minutes away from our lift.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, I mean, you have all these young kids that
are trying to make two two five a track or
downtown Aurora race track or whatever, and it's like, why
don't you go and take advantage of some of these opportunities.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What are some of the things they do with the racetrack.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It would allow to your point you started, because they
let anybody on the racetrack.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, they can for sure come out. It's the first
Saturday of every month. They just sign up online or
at the racetrack and they bring their daily driver out there.
They also have special events where they can do drifting
and things like that on a Sunday. So there are
events and we also do. There's drivers out there that'll
let up and coming drive or want to be drivers,
(10:01):
get in their race car and tool around the racetracks.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm well, that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So if you want to come out and see what
it's all about, jumping my race car, go around around
a little bit and see if it's something that you're
interested in.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now, Paul, you're not a tiny man, but you're not
a large man. How much space is there in these
race cars? Like, what is the average height weight of
a driver?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, it's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
We have we have kids the age of twelve years
old that'll get in these cars. It's all about the
proper seat and placement of the pedals. And we have
guys that are six three two fifty in those cars.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
How does a kid? How does a kid get to
drive the car? Legally?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
There are specific age groups that are dictated to us
by the governing bodies, either INX or NASCAR. INX happens
to mandate twelve years old. It used to be fourteen
prior to this year. Now it's down to twelve.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, I mean, are they trying to expand the hook
them young kind of thing? What's the logic behind that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, they're trying to hook them me on.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And right now the Kyle Bushes and the Kevin Harvick's
all the big NASCAR driver their kids are now twelve
years old.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Ah, all make sense?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
All the money thing this is.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
This is definitely a dynasty sport, right is that?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Just because like, and I'm not a huge NASCAR fan,
but growing up in Florida, you just have to be
aware of it, especially because I lived in the redneck
part of Florida, So it does seem like that it
is easier to get your foot in the door if
you are part of a racing family.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You have all the connections, you have the sponsorship packages
that come along with it, and that's a big advantage.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We have some a division out of color National Speedway.
It's called Super Late Models, and those race cars are
one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars race cars
and they come with full trailers and full pit crews
and all that stuff. And most of those guys have
gotten in because they've started or had a connection when
they were very young.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So what do you have sponsors at this level?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We we do not as a team, but there's a
lot of folks out there that do have sponsorships.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, that's really cool. So what do you have on
your suit?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You put a many call I'll show a patch on
your shoe.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
If I get one made, you get one made, I'll
put it all over.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's happening.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yes, that is happening. I'll put your name on the
side of my race.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
If I give you fifty bucks. Am I now your sponsor?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And as the only sponsor, we're going to completely bring
How about this? How much do you think it would
cost to have a fire suit made with my face
all over it?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh? That would be I'd wear that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wouldn't that be called?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I would wear that for sure?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So we got to find that out.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
You know, at a minimum, we have an air freshener
hanging in your car with my face on it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No, the Maandy Connall Show is fully sponsoring his race car.
This is happening. So the season is almost over, though,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It is?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
October fifth is our last race, and that's a big
race for the fans because we open up the track
and all the kids get to come out and do
trick or treat at the race car.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's awesome, it's really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
One Texter.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'll take care of the kids while she races. So
I would definitely let you get inside of my race.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Come out to the race car and see purple pain
and you know, sweeper off her feet.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
But it's going to.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Take a special man to to be the right match
for her. As a strong woman myself, trust me, it
is harder to find the kind of guy who can
allow you to shine and not have it.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Hurt their ego. That's very true.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And she would say that I'm I'm a little bit
getting in the way of making this all happen.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So I'm kind of a tough dad.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, okay, so what do you want?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Do you want grandkids or do you want to be
a tough dad? Pick one, pick it now, right now
on the air, Paul tough dad? Okay, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Trust me as a grandmother, you want grandkids?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Do I?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay, layoff, layoff, don't scare them all away.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Let her scare them all away, off away and they're
in their own self. So what is the next kind
of what's the next step up in cars? And are
you going to make that move too?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So at Colorado National Speedway and in Colorado, we start
off with bandos, that's the little kids six, eight, ten
years old, and then you go to Legends, which is
what my daughter's running. From there, you can move up
to purestock superstock you can run.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Are those closer to what we see NASCAR? Because those
are stock cars?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
They call it stock cars?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
But no, the NASCAR equivalent is what we call super
late models, Okay, and they look and function pretty darn close.
We have pro trucks and Grand American Modified, and then
we got figure eights and trains, which are always crowd favorites.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Out of the track.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Is that where you just go around and to figureate
and race into each other? What is it? Laughing?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
The train is that you're asking about?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, figure rates?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
No, Paul, tell her what trains are.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So trains are We have three cars that are literally
welded together. The back car has brakes, no motor. The
middle car is a dummy car. In the front car
has no brakes and just the accelerator and they whip
around and they just cause havoc and they do a
figure eight and it is literally a crowd favorite. It's
if something to be awesome, Yeah, it's it's it is land. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How much people get hurt doing this on a regular basis?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
How many people get hurt?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean is it like once tonight somebody gets
hurt or no.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I would say it's three weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
It's probably once a month where you see an ambulance
come out to the track where they have somebody that's
you know, two in the pit area. Very rarely do
you see someone getting taken to the hospital. I'm probably
up there in the most frequent for the hospital scene.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But it's it's.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Wicked safe the track and the crews out there that
are there for our.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Safety do an outstanding job.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Like I said, I'd rather be out there running at
the speeds or running with race car drivers than I
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, I can't blame you for that, so white Chocolate,
little drummer boy, Paul Hammler, whatever your name is. Now
that you have embarrassed your daughter, it's time for me
to probably embarrass you because now it's time for the
most exciting segment.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
On the radio on its guy in the world of
the day.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That was well done, Paul, extremely well done. Well done.
That was great.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I practiced that all. Did you really you should have because.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You did an excellent chocolate. Okay, what is our dad
joke of the day?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
What do we want raising noises? When do we want them?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
One?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's a great one, I do, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It reminds me of that time I did a show
from the Mickeyard five hundred Disney's Small Track. They put
us on the infield while they were practicing. Oh so
the whole show was us talking very quickly like this, then.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
E and then we were talking really guys like the
who all day. It was the funniest thing I've ever
experienced in my life. It was like a bad movie. Okay,
today's word of today please.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Is a verb. Okay, guess what it means. Winn o
W I n n o W.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
That means to whittle something down, to.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Get rid of somebody. Well what do you think, uh
that those are the children of minnows? I like it? Yeah,
both wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Winnling is about removing what is not wanted, to remove stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's exactly what I said, you down.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yes, I thought you're talking about like whittling like somebody.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
No, no, no no, you.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Whittle down the numbers, you get rid of stuff. I'm
with you.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I knew that I knew that one. That was an
easy one. Today's trivia question.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
The integumentary integumentary. The integumentary system is one of several
systems that compose the human body. Others include the muscular, nervous,
and skeletal skeletal systems. Words are what comprises the integiven
integumentary system.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I N t e g U mentory, No clue your veins.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I has something to do with your brain.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh, skincarel, skin hair and nails.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
The skin is the body's the worst organ and plays
several critical roles.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And that's what that is about. Wow, skin hair and nails.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
We need to draw this down for me.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
No, we don't, Paul. Now, Paul, you know how this
works because you listen, Paul, you yell, Paul, And if
you have to answer the question, you answer to the
form of a question.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
If you get it right, you get a point. If
you get it wrong minus one. Yes, So there you go,
all right, Paul Himmler.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
What is AROD? What's hard?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Category is definitely no lean random, totally.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
The category is auto races.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
God, here we go, designating you as the winner.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
It's the flag each driver. Yes, yes, yes, son of
a gun. Play checker.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Aquatic term for the rapid side to side movement a carr.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You know, I think you gave her the answers before
this now so stacked against.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Me as the as the lead qualifier for an auto
racing eventsition. This type of auto racing starts bears the
name of a French town famous for a twenty four
hour race is Lamar oh Man and for the sweep Paul, come.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
On, I'm here man. Also a term for architectural drawing.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
It's the fuel saving practice of one car closely following another.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Paul, what is drafting?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, it's anyone on the radio.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's much easier when you listen.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I was looking at you with confidence. I can't help
it if you took it as an evil stare. I
can't help your insecurities. Paul about Jeopardy, I can't do
that ball adlarmbly appreciate you coming in, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We'll try, we'll try.
Paul Himmler, he is Little Drummer Boy, but he was
white Chocolate.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
First of all, if I become a race car driver, Paul,
do I get to choose my own nickname.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
You can try to choose it, but normally the race
car drivers around you will help and create one that
flattering thought.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So you used to be white chocolate. Yes, and that came.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
From people have seen me dance and we tend to
be the party trailer at the end of the night,
and a Rod comes around to visit us, and since
I'm a white guy and I dance like Mika Jackson.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
He thinks he can.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh no, wow, Arod.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just kicking you right under the bus there, that's.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What that was.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, we've had a friendly competition at the track and
he did lose.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Is there any itch worm going on? Is there? Inchworm?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Is there?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Slow bot? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's a little bit of everything. It's mostly eighties and
nineties kind of hip hop stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Nice, it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And then little drummer Boy is what you've been named
by Anthony?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, he gave that to me. He I play in
an eighties band.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm a drummer, and he came to see one of
our gigs and came away with little drummer boy.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So it's kind of stuck.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Well, a fantastic drummer. I'm a million times better than
a dancer.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Let me ask this question about your eighties band, because
I just went and watched an eighties band and I
found myself paul out on the dance floor with a
bunch of elderly people, and I was shocked and confused
by this, and then I realized I am very quickly
becoming an elderly person.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, there is that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The band is named Stereo Collision, and although most of
the patrons are my age I'm fifty eight, we do
have a younger crowd, and even my kids that are
in their younger twenties, they tend to come out and
just love the music.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
A lot of sensible shoes in that crowd.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah. So let's talk.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
About racing cars. How did you get into racing cars?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So back in the day, to blow time off on
a Saturday, my wife and I used to go to
the racetrack color On National Speedway, and they had things
called circle drags where everybody can get in their daily driver,
their minivan, their work truck, whatever they had during intermission
and run around and compete. And I did that four
different times and we won it. And the last time
I did it, I as I spun and almost hit
the wall and my wife said, you're you're an.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Idiot, Like, what are you in a Volvo? What are
you driving around the nice track.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Of a Polyac G eight. It's it's a fairly high
power car. Yeah, And she said, you know what, you're
an idiot. Why don't you just go buy a race car?
And I'm like, what did you eat?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And then she wanted to just shove those words back
in her mouth, but it was too late.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They were already out in the ether.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
They were and kind of the rest is history. We
investigated a legend car to start off with.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And what is the legend car? I know nothing about
this kind.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Of race there. That's the one on the back of
my shirt. It's a small, like a third scale race car.
It's got a motorcycle motor in it and forty horse
powers basically a souped up go kart, very souped up
gold cart.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And there's like thirty to forty of them on the
racetrack at one time, so it's very competitive.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
A lot of the NASCAR guys start in these cars. Yeah,
so they do well.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Then do they count as a funny car?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
They do not.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What is a funny car?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Funny cars? Dragsters? Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
we go circle circle.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, drag racing is a whole different beast.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I've never been to a louder sporting event, and I've
been to monster trucks in an arena. Never been to
a sporting event louder than drag racing. I had earplugs,
I had headphones, and it still made my ears ring
the next day.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Crazy, It's insane, and we're pretty loud at the track.
So I got a car, started racing one year. We
went to nationals our first year. Then my daughter, who's
never been in a stick shift or a race car,
wanted to get into it, and so we bought her
a car and she's been racing that ever since. I know,
she is twenty four now, So how long has she
been racing since seventeen?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh wow, a long time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah. We started late in our life.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Most of these people that are good race car drivers
are starting at four and a half five years old
and working their way. Sure.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I tried to get the queue behind the wheel at
four and five, but she was like, no, Mommy, I
want to play with dolls. You kind of come from
a family of speed freaks.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We do.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, it's been a big family affair. My other daughters
are pit crew. She's also our spotter, so she's involved.
My wife takes care of all the race day preparations
and all of the cooking and alcoholic beverages that are particular.
Absolutely takes care of all the music, all that good stuff.
(04:25):
And my father was into cars back in the day.
And then of course my brother used to fly jets
with the Blue Angels, so he's a speed freak as well.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So have you always been a thrill seeker?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You know, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I've been involved in competitive sports my whole life, and
ever since my body has deteriorated, I need something to
fill that void, and something came along and it was racing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Now, what are your what are your goals or aspirations?
Is this just a fun hobby at this level and
that's where it is for you? Does your daughter have
any aspirations of going further and trying to become a professional.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We'd like to say yes, but that's not really reality.
We go out to have fun. The biggest and most
important part of our night is at the end of
the night when they open up the pits for all
the fans to come back and sign autographs. The huge
line is always behind my daughter's race car, all the women,
even the men, the young girls. That that's what we
really live for, is to thank you very much, ay Rod,
(05:24):
That's what we live for. We are not financed by
any and we have no sponsorships. It's all out of
pocket for us, and so it's just a local thing.
We have a great racetrack here in Colorado and we
just go out to have fun.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I was gonna ask you when you start buying race cars,
I mean, what are you expending in a year on
this hobby? And if you ever added it up and
then told your wife what she started and blame it on.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Her, that's what I would do.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I would know it's a lot of money. We don't
add it up.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
We try to create a budget at the beginning of
the year, and this year we got into four different
wrecks and it just destroyed our budget. Within a month
of the race season. It's it's rather expensive. They try
to keep the price down. The track does a good
job at that. But to buy a race car like
that's on my shirt that my daughter runs is about
fifteen to twenty thousand dollars to start to move up,
(06:16):
and to run a Grand American Modified or a pro truck,
you're talking twenty to forty five thousand dollars for the vehicle. Right,
You've got weekly maintenance, you got to buy tires, you
got to buy fuel. That's ten dollars a gallon at
the racetrack. So it adds up because you're not.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Using like you're not pulling up the costco and gassing
up the race.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No man, no man, We have to use one hundred
and ten octane at the racetrack.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
One hundred ten octane.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yes, ma'am. That's insane. It burns pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And how much do you go through in a night.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It's not a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
In her car, she'll run through maybe five gallons. Yeah,
in the big trucks, you'll double that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Have you ever gotten into an accident? It almost died.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
We've gotten into some pretty bad accidents.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I've been knocked out, unconscious, had to be taken a
hospital three times.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
My daughter has been taking a hospital twice.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So it's a it's a rough sport, But I tell
you what, I'd rather be strapped into a race car
going as fast as we are versus going down I.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Twenty five in my daily driver without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is that because the drivers at least on the racetrack
and theory have some kind of training and you you know,
you have a little more control in that situation.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
No, it's just the safety gear we wear is insane.
You're in a fire shuit, you got a Han's device on,
You're strapped in like a fighter jet, and the cars
are built to take those kind of hits.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
What do you mean those kind of hits? What does
that mean?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So, can I try to avoid anything that involves me
getting hit by anything in any way, shape or for it?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, normally, Now I don't say normally.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Every now and again you will bump against another competitor
and if you're unlucky, you will then hit the concrete wall.
So when you tend to hit a concrete wall, that's
what they say. Yeah, when you had a concrete wall
at eighty five miles an hour, it tends to leave
a mark.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
How much do you spend or not?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
How much time do you spend repairing the body of
these cars.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
After a race.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
When I first got into racing, and I just thought
you'd show up on a Saturday night, strap yourself in,
go out and have fun. I never knew that it
was this much work. We're working on race cars every
day of the week, every day and then.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But you're doing this as a family.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
We are. My daughter works on her own car.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
She'll get in there and wrench on, change oil, just
she'll take motors out herself, put them back in.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's a huge family event.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I just go ahead and get her number now
For all the guys that are about to text me.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And say I'd like to meet this woman, that would
be so awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
She is so in need of a guy. When they
just put that out there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know you're listening that your daughter is now screaming
at the radio right now.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, So I think this is.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
The cool way.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean, if if the whole family's involved, then then
it is your family hobby and it it probably you
guys probably spend more time to get because of it.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Oh, we do and to have girls involved with it.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There's not a lot of ladies out there at the track,
and it's just a huge thing to get young girls
into racing and to get young drivers into racing. And
that's what we're trying to show. We're trying to build
a sport. We're trying to keep our track here in
Colorado alive. There's a lot of other tracks that have
closed down recently, and so we're very fortunate to have
a great track literally in my backyard.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It's five minutes away from our lift.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, I mean, you have all these young kids that
are trying to make two two five a track or
downtown Aurora race track or whatever, and it's like, why
don't you go and take advantage of some of these opportunities.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What are some of the things they do with the racetrack.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It would allow to your point you started, because they
let anybody on the racetrack.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, they can for sure come out. It's the first
Saturday of every month. They just sign up online or
at the racetrack and they bring their daily driver out there.
They also have special events where they can do drifting
and things like that on a Sunday. So there are
events and we also do. There's drivers out there that'll
let up and coming drive or want to be drivers,
(10:01):
get in their race car and tool around the racetracks.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm well, that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So if you want to come out and see what
it's all about, jumping my race car, go around around
a little bit and see if it's something that you're
interested in.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now, Paul, you're not a tiny man, but you're not
a large man. How much space is there in these
race cars? Like, what is the average height weight of
a driver?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, it's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
We have we have kids the age of twelve years
old that'll get in these cars. It's all about the
proper seat and placement of the pedals. And we have
guys that are six three two fifty in those cars.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
How does a kid? How does a kid get to
drive the car? Legally?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
There are specific age groups that are dictated to us
by the governing bodies, either INX or NASCAR. INX happens
to mandate twelve years old. It used to be fourteen
prior to this year. Now it's down to twelve.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, I mean, are they trying to expand the hook
them young kind of thing? What's the logic behind that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, they're trying to hook them me on.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And right now the Kyle Bushes and the Kevin Harvick's
all the big NASCAR driver their kids are now twelve
years old.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Ah, all make sense?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
All the money thing this is.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
This is definitely a dynasty sport, right is that?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Just because like, and I'm not a huge NASCAR fan,
but growing up in Florida, you just have to be
aware of it, especially because I lived in the redneck
part of Florida, So it does seem like that it
is easier to get your foot in the door if
you are part of a racing family.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You have all the connections, you have the sponsorship packages
that come along with it, and that's a big advantage.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We have some a division out of color National Speedway.
It's called Super Late Models, and those race cars are
one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars race cars
and they come with full trailers and full pit crews
and all that stuff. And most of those guys have
gotten in because they've started or had a connection when
they were very young.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So what do you have sponsors at this level?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We we do not as a team, but there's a
lot of folks out there that do have sponsorships.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, that's really cool. So what do you have on
your suit?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You put a many call I'll show a patch on
your shoe.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
If I get one made, you get one made, I'll
put it all over.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's happening.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yes, that is happening. I'll put your name on the
side of my race.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
If I give you fifty bucks. Am I now your sponsor?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And as the only sponsor, we're going to completely bring
How about this? How much do you think it would
cost to have a fire suit made with my face
all over it?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh? That would be I'd wear that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wouldn't that be called?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I would wear that for sure?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So we got to find that out.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
You know, at a minimum, we have an air freshener
hanging in your car with my face on it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No, the Maandy Connall Show is fully sponsoring his race car.
This is happening. So the season is almost over, though,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It is?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
October fifth is our last race, and that's a big
race for the fans because we open up the track
and all the kids get to come out and do
trick or treat at the race car.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's awesome, it's really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
One Texter.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'll take care of the kids while she races. So
I would definitely let you get inside of my race.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Come out to the race car and see purple pain
and you know, sweeper off her feet.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
But it's going to.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Take a special man to to be the right match
for her. As a strong woman myself, trust me, it
is harder to find the kind of guy who can
allow you to shine and not have it.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Hurt their ego. That's very true.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And she would say that I'm I'm a little bit
getting in the way of making this all happen.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So I'm kind of a tough dad.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, okay, so what do you want?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Do you want grandkids or do you want to be
a tough dad? Pick one, pick it now, right now
on the air, Paul tough dad? Okay, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Trust me as a grandmother, you want grandkids?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Do I?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay, layoff, layoff, don't scare them all away.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Let her scare them all away, off away and they're
in their own self. So what is the next kind
of what's the next step up in cars? And are
you going to make that move too?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So at Colorado National Speedway and in Colorado, we start
off with bandos, that's the little kids six, eight, ten
years old, and then you go to Legends, which is
what my daughter's running. From there, you can move up
to purestock superstock you can run.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Are those closer to what we see NASCAR? Because those
are stock cars?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
They call it stock cars?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
But no, the NASCAR equivalent is what we call super
late models, Okay, and they look and function pretty darn close.
We have pro trucks and Grand American Modified, and then
we got figure eights and trains, which are always crowd favorites.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Out of the track.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Is that where you just go around and to figureate
and race into each other? What is it? Laughing?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
The train is that you're asking about?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, figure rates?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
No, Paul, tell her what trains are.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So trains are We have three cars that are literally
welded together. The back car has brakes, no motor. The
middle car is a dummy car. In the front car
has no brakes and just the accelerator and they whip
around and they just cause havoc and they do a
figure eight and it is literally a crowd favorite. It's
if something to be awesome, Yeah, it's it's it is land. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How much people get hurt doing this on a regular basis?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
How many people get hurt?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean is it like once tonight somebody gets
hurt or no.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I would say it's three weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
It's probably once a month where you see an ambulance
come out to the track where they have somebody that's
you know, two in the pit area. Very rarely do
you see someone getting taken to the hospital. I'm probably
up there in the most frequent for the hospital scene.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But it's it's.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Wicked safe the track and the crews out there that
are there for our.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Safety do an outstanding job.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Like I said, I'd rather be out there running at
the speeds or running with race car drivers than I
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, I can't blame you for that, so white Chocolate,
little drummer boy, Paul Hammler, whatever your name is. Now
that you have embarrassed your daughter, it's time for me
to probably embarrass you because now it's time for the
most exciting segment.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
On the radio on its guy in the world of
the day.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That was well done, Paul, extremely well done. Well done.
That was great.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I practiced that all. Did you really you should have because.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You did an excellent chocolate. Okay, what is our dad
joke of the day?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
What do we want raising noises? When do we want them?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
One?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's a great one, I do, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It reminds me of that time I did a show
from the Mickeyard five hundred Disney's Small Track. They put
us on the infield while they were practicing. Oh so
the whole show was us talking very quickly like this, then.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
E and then we were talking really guys like the
who all day. It was the funniest thing I've ever
experienced in my life. It was like a bad movie. Okay,
today's word of today please.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Is a verb. Okay, guess what it means. Winn o
W I n n o W.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
That means to whittle something down, to.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Get rid of somebody. Well what do you think, uh
that those are the children of minnows? I like it? Yeah,
both wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Winnling is about removing what is not wanted, to remove stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's exactly what I said, you down.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yes, I thought you're talking about like whittling like somebody.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
No, no, no no, you.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Whittle down the numbers, you get rid of stuff. I'm
with you.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I knew that I knew that one. That was an
easy one. Today's trivia question.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
The integumentary integumentary. The integumentary system is one of several
systems that compose the human body. Others include the muscular, nervous,
and skeletal skeletal systems. Words are what comprises the integiven
integumentary system.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I N t e g U mentory, No clue your veins.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I has something to do with your brain.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh, skincarel, skin hair and nails.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
The skin is the body's the worst organ and plays
several critical roles.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And that's what that is about. Wow, skin hair and nails.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
We need to draw this down for me.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
No, we don't, Paul. Now, Paul, you know how this
works because you listen, Paul, you yell, Paul, And if
you have to answer the question, you answer to the
form of a question.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
If you get it right, you get a point. If
you get it wrong minus one. Yes, So there you go,
all right, Paul Himmler.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
What is AROD? What's hard?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Category is definitely no lean random, totally.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
The category is auto races.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
God, here we go, designating you as the winner.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
It's the flag each driver. Yes, yes, yes, son of
a gun. Play checker.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Aquatic term for the rapid side to side movement a carr.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You know, I think you gave her the answers before
this now so stacked against.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Me as the as the lead qualifier for an auto
racing eventsition. This type of auto racing starts bears the
name of a French town famous for a twenty four
hour race is Lamar oh Man and for the sweep Paul, come.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
On, I'm here man. Also a term for architectural drawing.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
It's the fuel saving practice of one car closely following another.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Paul, what is drafting?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, it's anyone on the radio.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's much easier when you listen.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I was looking at you with confidence. I can't help
it if you took it as an evil stare. I
can't help your insecurities. Paul about Jeopardy, I can't do
that ball adlarmbly appreciate you coming in, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We'll try, we'll try.
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