October 3, 2024 • 8 mins
TINA PETERS FINDS OUT HER FATE TODAY And I'm talking to Jimmy Sengenberger, who made the trip to the courthouse for the sentencing, at 1pm or maybe later to talk about what happens to Tina Peters for her role in breaking multiple laws to "prove" that Trump lost via cheating. She faces up to twenty years in prison.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, that is the musical prowess of our friend
Jimmy Singenberger. Jimmy sat through the entire sentencing hearing for
Tina Peters.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I watched it on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Jimmy, quick question, are you going to teach Tina to
play the guitar or to play the harp so she
has something to do with her eight and a half
years in prison?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You know, I was going to offer her that, but
I'm not sure that you would accept the instruction for me,
so it might not be worth even trying. What do
you think?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You know what, I think that's probably a safe bet,
probably a good move. So, Jimmy, I feel like you,
out of anyone I know, you have followed this trial
from the beginning, and now you sat through the sentencing hearing.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I just want to ask you this.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Were you surprised at how little remorse Tina Peters showed
today in her statements.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
To the judge.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, not at all, And how could I tell this?
Number One was how they had put forward their so
called defense, which had much more to do with trying
to justify her actions than actually defending the legal claims
being brought by the prosecution. And then ever since in
(01:20):
the last several weeks. Since then, Tina has been on
all kinds of different shows online and elsewhere, and had
her allies just going out there acting as though she
did nothing wrong in any way, shape or form, and
doubling down and talking about how evidence wasn't allowed to
be admitted in this and that, just providing these excuses
(01:41):
that already showed Mandy that she did not have remorse.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, and she seemed to be re litigating everything today
in the sentencing. And I'm going to ask you this, Jimmy,
because I didn't sit there the whole trial, do you
think if she had come in today to the sentencing
and just gone and said, I am so incredibly sorry.
I did not understand the ramifications. I thought I was
doing the right thing. I've now realized the error of
(02:05):
my ways. I'm so so sorry. I can't believe I
let this get out of control just trying to do
the right thing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Do you think she would have gotten eight and half years.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I don't know that she would have or wouldn't have.
Its possible she wouldn't. The problem for her even if
she did that is she spent the last several weeks
making all sorts of claims to the contrary that would
have just showed how insincere it was. And the judge
really caught under this in his sentencing. He walked through
for a while. I don't know if it was like
twenty minutes or longer. He said, flat, you are a charlatan.
(02:40):
He said, it's just moral lies. No objective person believes them. No,
at the end of the day, you cared about the jets,
the podcasts and the people on them. You chose you
over all else. Wow, he did not mince words spending.
It was impressive, honestly because he broke down the law
and like, this is the purpose of sentencing. This is
(03:02):
what we do with if you get probation, if you
get community corrections, or if you get prison, here's the
standards that we need to meet. And he said, no,
you need prison time.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So I just got this text message. I'm confused. Who
the victim was that caused harm? Is of Tina's crime
to warrant nine years. This judge is obviously a liberal activist.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
How do you respond to that, Jimmy, Because you watch
the whole.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Thing in two ways, both from today and then from
the live stream. I watched ninety five percent of during
the actual trial. I think the judge really handled things
extremely well in terms of allowing some leeway and latitude
for the defense to bring up things that were irrelevant
to the actual case at hand. I just spoke with
(03:49):
did an interview for a forthcoming column with Dan Rubinstein,
the district attorney for Mason County, and one of the
things that he was talking about was, we really were
making this that election stuff is answer, it's not what
this trial is about. It was about the things that
she did, which include going to the other part of
the answer to this listener's question, when you intentionally deceived
(04:13):
whether they are employees of the Secretary of State's office
which happened, or employees of Masa County, these are public officials,
and when you deceive them by telling them different stories
to make certain things happen. That to the guy by
the name as Conan Hayes to go in and pretend
to be a guy named Gerald Wood, that means that
there is a victim because those people unwittingly helped you
(04:36):
to do the things that you did, and you this
led them, You influenced those public servants, and you also
turned the Jerry Wood and his wife, Wendy, and their kids,
their lives upside down. You upended for county.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Clerk and recorders across.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The state and throughout the country. This was the point
that Matt Crane brought up from the Coloride of County
Clerks Association and some of the others who spoke behalf
of the prosecution, say, you had all of these corps
that have been discredited, that have faced threats, that have
faced all of these consequences because not of something they
did or that is wrong in the system, Mandy, but
(05:12):
because of Tina Peters and what she did, dragging everybody
else through the mud so that she could get same
and attention.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And that's really the root of it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
When she was talking, I was listening, and when she
said I am an honest person. I lied about Conan,
but I am an honest person. I burst out laughing,
like she doesn't even hear the words that are coming
out of her own mouth.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You texted me, Oh my god, I just that.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
For me was like the pin in the thing. So
is she remanded?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Is there an appeal? Do you know what's happening next?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So actually, one quick thing, I just want to know
this is across the county one point four million dollars
in real dollars, so county taxpayers are also victims. So
they can file an appeal. But the sentence, as I
understand it, I think it will still move forward. I'm
not sure how that works, but they are going to
find a file an appeal. They also tried to make
(06:10):
something happened to get a stay. I don't really understand
the Brady violation that they were talking about. It was
something that they were claiming and the judge was like, no,
this does not apply. The circumstances here don't apply to that.
So I believe she will still be going through starting
to serve her time, but the appeal will move forward.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Okay, So one.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Last question for you, Jimmy, is that I have decided
that I'm going to write a musical in the style
of a Greek tragedy about Tina and because there's just
it's just too much, and somebody said that you should
have a harmonica solo in the show. Would you be
available for a harmonica solo in my soon to be
named Greek tragedy about the Tina Peter Strauld.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It will also be a musical.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
As long as it can be harmonica playing for the
part where you have Tina playing some blues on the
harmonica in jail. As long as that's the case, then
I will gladly provide the audio that you need. Okay,
part of your music that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Is perfect epic. Jimmy Sengenberger. You can read his columns
in the Colorado Gazette and.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Also hear him on time to time here on KOWA
and k How Jimmy, I really appreciate you watching all
of this so the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Didn't have to, you know what.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's what I'm here for, to be the glutton for
punishment just for you.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Manby all right, thanks Jimmy, I'll talk to you later,
my friend. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I just crazy. So the story is right now over.
I don't think it's over over, but the story is
over for the next little bit. Speaking of indictments, Jack Smith,
we got to talk about Jack Smith's latest indictment in
what has, in my mind is the clearest demonstration.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Today eight of election interference.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This is it whatever Tina Peters said, Nope, this this
is election interference.
All right, that is the musical prowess of our friend
Jimmy Singenberger. Jimmy sat through the entire sentencing hearing for
Tina Peters.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I watched it on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Jimmy, quick question, are you going to teach Tina to
play the guitar or to play the harp so she
has something to do with her eight and a half
years in prison?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You know, I was going to offer her that, but
I'm not sure that you would accept the instruction for me,
so it might not be worth even trying. What do
you think?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You know what, I think that's probably a safe bet,
probably a good move. So, Jimmy, I feel like you,
out of anyone I know, you have followed this trial
from the beginning, and now you sat through the sentencing hearing.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I just want to ask you this.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Were you surprised at how little remorse Tina Peters showed
today in her statements.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
To the judge.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, not at all, And how could I tell this?
Number One was how they had put forward their so
called defense, which had much more to do with trying
to justify her actions than actually defending the legal claims
being brought by the prosecution. And then ever since in
(01:20):
the last several weeks. Since then, Tina has been on
all kinds of different shows online and elsewhere, and had
her allies just going out there acting as though she
did nothing wrong in any way, shape or form, and
doubling down and talking about how evidence wasn't allowed to
be admitted in this and that, just providing these excuses
(01:41):
that already showed Mandy that she did not have remorse.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, and she seemed to be re litigating everything today
in the sentencing. And I'm going to ask you this, Jimmy,
because I didn't sit there the whole trial, do you
think if she had come in today to the sentencing
and just gone and said, I am so incredibly sorry.
I did not understand the ramifications. I thought I was
doing the right thing. I've now realized the error of
(02:05):
my ways. I'm so so sorry. I can't believe I
let this get out of control just trying to do
the right thing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Do you think she would have gotten eight and half years.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I don't know that she would have or wouldn't have.
Its possible she wouldn't. The problem for her even if
she did that is she spent the last several weeks
making all sorts of claims to the contrary that would
have just showed how insincere it was. And the judge
really caught under this in his sentencing. He walked through
for a while. I don't know if it was like
twenty minutes or longer. He said, flat, you are a charlatan.
(02:40):
He said, it's just moral lies. No objective person believes them. No,
at the end of the day, you cared about the jets,
the podcasts and the people on them. You chose you
over all else. Wow, he did not mince words spending.
It was impressive, honestly because he broke down the law
and like, this is the purpose of sentencing. This is
(03:02):
what we do with if you get probation, if you
get community corrections, or if you get prison, here's the
standards that we need to meet. And he said, no,
you need prison time.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So I just got this text message. I'm confused. Who
the victim was that caused harm? Is of Tina's crime
to warrant nine years. This judge is obviously a liberal activist.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
How do you respond to that, Jimmy, Because you watch
the whole.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Thing in two ways, both from today and then from
the live stream. I watched ninety five percent of during
the actual trial. I think the judge really handled things
extremely well in terms of allowing some leeway and latitude
for the defense to bring up things that were irrelevant
to the actual case at hand. I just spoke with
(03:49):
did an interview for a forthcoming column with Dan Rubinstein,
the district attorney for Mason County, and one of the
things that he was talking about was, we really were
making this that election stuff is answer, it's not what
this trial is about. It was about the things that
she did, which include going to the other part of
the answer to this listener's question, when you intentionally deceived
(04:13):
whether they are employees of the Secretary of State's office
which happened, or employees of Masa County, these are public officials,
and when you deceive them by telling them different stories
to make certain things happen. That to the guy by
the name as Conan Hayes to go in and pretend
to be a guy named Gerald Wood, that means that
there is a victim because those people unwittingly helped you
(04:36):
to do the things that you did, and you this
led them, You influenced those public servants, and you also
turned the Jerry Wood and his wife, Wendy, and their kids,
their lives upside down. You upended for county.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Clerk and recorders across.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The state and throughout the country. This was the point
that Matt Crane brought up from the Coloride of County
Clerks Association and some of the others who spoke behalf
of the prosecution, say, you had all of these corps
that have been discredited, that have faced threats, that have
faced all of these consequences because not of something they
did or that is wrong in the system, Mandy, but
(05:12):
because of Tina Peters and what she did, dragging everybody
else through the mud so that she could get same
and attention.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And that's really the root of it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
When she was talking, I was listening, and when she
said I am an honest person. I lied about Conan,
but I am an honest person. I burst out laughing,
like she doesn't even hear the words that are coming
out of her own mouth.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You texted me, Oh my god, I just that.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
For me was like the pin in the thing. So
is she remanded?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Is there an appeal? Do you know what's happening next?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So actually, one quick thing, I just want to know
this is across the county one point four million dollars
in real dollars, so county taxpayers are also victims. So
they can file an appeal. But the sentence, as I
understand it, I think it will still move forward. I'm
not sure how that works, but they are going to
find a file an appeal. They also tried to make
(06:10):
something happened to get a stay. I don't really understand
the Brady violation that they were talking about. It was
something that they were claiming and the judge was like, no,
this does not apply. The circumstances here don't apply to that.
So I believe she will still be going through starting
to serve her time, but the appeal will move forward.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Okay, So one.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Last question for you, Jimmy, is that I have decided
that I'm going to write a musical in the style
of a Greek tragedy about Tina and because there's just
it's just too much, and somebody said that you should
have a harmonica solo in the show. Would you be
available for a harmonica solo in my soon to be
named Greek tragedy about the Tina Peter Strauld.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It will also be a musical.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
As long as it can be harmonica playing for the
part where you have Tina playing some blues on the
harmonica in jail. As long as that's the case, then
I will gladly provide the audio that you need. Okay,
part of your music that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Is perfect epic. Jimmy Sengenberger. You can read his columns
in the Colorado Gazette and.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Also hear him on time to time here on KOWA
and k How Jimmy, I really appreciate you watching all
of this so the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Didn't have to, you know what.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's what I'm here for, to be the glutton for
punishment just for you.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Manby all right, thanks Jimmy, I'll talk to you later,
my friend. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I just crazy. So the story is right now over.
I don't think it's over over, but the story is
over for the next little bit. Speaking of indictments, Jack Smith,
we got to talk about Jack Smith's latest indictment in
what has, in my mind is the clearest demonstration.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Today eight of election interference.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This is it whatever Tina Peters said, Nope, this this
is election interference.
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