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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Trying to help children with gays against groomers. Rich Gougenheim,
could you see my friends?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thanks Nanny.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
You guys had a big rally on Saturday. Tell me
about that.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh, the rally was great. We had quite the lineup
of speakers. Jen s with x Y Athletics fantastic. She
got to speak about this from a female professional athlete
perspective as such a valuable perspective we had. Let's see
who else did we have? Oh? Perhaps one of my
(00:30):
personal favorites because it was such an emotional story was
Chance our d transitioner talking about the harm and the
permanent damage that it did to her body transitioning and
why she, as a trans person, does not support doing
this to children. We had also how old was she
(00:51):
when she decided to did you?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm assuming she was a trans man and now she
is living as a female again.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
She yes, so female transition to man and is now
living as a female again. But it does it causes
irreversible harm, right, you know, it's not And a lot
of people think it's the surgeries, but it's not. It's
when you start taking wrong sex hormones and you're injecting
these chemicals into your body and it's going to have
an effect whether or not it's good or bad.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And it's a feature, not a bug.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, they don't tell you about all of the bad
things that these chemicals can do to your body when
you're when you're when you're doing it. And because if
they did that, they wouldn't make all the money off
of it, These big pharmaceutical industries and people like the
Pritzkers and the Strikers, right, So that's why they push it.
And we also had Aaron Lee spoke. We had Adam Vina,
(01:43):
who is a dad in California who lost the custody
of his five year old son for not allowing his
ex partner to transition their son Yep at the age
of three. God that that is. That is so upsetting
to me.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And I see these it's always liberal moms, right, and
I'm trying not to cast dispersions because I'm but I
don't know any right wing people that are transitioning their
three year old.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's only people.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
On the left, and they're usually people I feel like
their attention seeking themselves. They're living vicariously through their child.
They're upping their own status within their community. The children, Yes,
It's like when all the stars were adopting children from
Africa like they were new purses. You know, It's like,
those are children, those are human beings. It's not there
to satisfy you. In the easiest place, the best bargain
(02:38):
on children was in Africa. I feel like there's a
little bit of the same thing here, yep.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And it's it's just mind blowing to me. At that age,
they're like, well, they know who they are. I'm like, yeah,
they also believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus
and in the Easter Benny, which, by the way, if
you have kids listening, are all real. Of course, I mean, duh,
everybody knows that God's kids are working on their letters
to Santa. But literally, this is what we're doing. We're
telling these children at these ages and in the case
(03:02):
of some of these children, they're not even out of diapers,
and oh, you're just strands. I look at it this way.
They are calling us this hate group, this fascistoryup, this
bigoted people, etc. And all of that stuff. To me,
the most hateful thing that you can do is tell
a child that there is something wrong with them, that
(03:23):
they were born in the wrong body, and the only
way for them to live they're authentic, and I use
that in air quotes right being is to sterilize and
mutilate their body. That is the most hateful thing that
I can ever think of doing to a child, is
to intentionally lie to them, to cause them to harm
their body.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This is not I'm surprised, and you and I have
had such long conversations about this that I am surprised
that there is any there are any people left in
the gay community, whether gay men or lesbians that cannot
see I think this movement is a movement to eliminate
gay people. They're going to surgically make you straight.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, we can definitely talk about that as we get
into this. Yeah, and I tend to think that you
are onto something there. But it's also really ironic to
me that there is another media outlet here in Denver,
which I hope this is okay. It was CBS, and
it was the first time that mainstream media actually platformed
gays against groomers in any kind of fashion. So we've
(04:29):
been blacklisted by mainstream media. But they actually came out
and did a story and they interviewed on one of
the protesters who is a minister of a church who
affirms trans people. And I just think about, how can
you claim to believe in a perfect, all knowing God
who then turned around and made a mistake by putting
(04:52):
a child in the wrong body, right, And if you
believe in a God who's fallible, how can that God
provide you with salvation? Right. I'm not even a theologist.
I don't believe in We're on TV, right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But the thing that gets me rich and I think
the best analogy for me is would we allow a
three year old.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
To get a face tattoo? Of course not.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You would never allow a three year old to make
a decision about tattooing their face. And maybe you could
even say, well, you can have a tattoo removed, but
can you have it completely removed?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
No, there's always going to.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Be that shadow left behind, and the notion that somehow
you can put your kid on puberty blockers and everything's
going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yep, it is terrible. Well, it just shows that the
whole logical fallacy of the entire argument comes down to
the fact that they will literally tell you that well
that's who they are. Well, no, it's not. And the
difference between being gay and being transgender. Is gay is
an immutable characteristic. It is defined by genetics. I am
a man. I have X Y chromosomes, and I am
(05:53):
attracted to other men who have x Y chromosomes. Whereas
they will literally tell you that you our gender identity
is fluid and can change, well, then it's not. It
is then if it is fluid and can change, it
is a mutable characteristic, and it is a belief that
this is who you are.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right, you're appreciating the choir on this one. I mean
you truly are talk to me about what's going on
within the gay community and gays against groomers.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You guys are running into a bit of trouble. I
don't know about if I would call it trouble. I
feel like maybe that's yes. So after the rally, you know,
we had people from California, and we had people from
Wisconsin and Missouri, and we decided afterwards we wanted to
meet up and just kind of have a few drinks
(06:43):
and kind of celebrate the fact that this was a
fantastic This was a fantastic rally.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It truly was. So we all decided we would meet
up at Buddies well, buddies, this gay bar that's on Pennsylvania,
and Colfax decided, well, first of all, I'm sure you're
steners are aware of who Valdemar Archiletta.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Is Congressional District one candidate.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Friend of the show. Yes. So he was wearing his
be dazzled maga hat, very gay, very fabulous, very demure
in mind cold, and I was wearing and the rest
of us were wearing the red hat that I have
that says make gay bars gay again. The bouncer and
the owner of this bar decided that they wanted to
(07:26):
charge all of us a forty dollars cash cover. And
I looked at him, like, are you serious, You're really
going to charge us a forty dollars cover? And he'
said yeah, it's forty dollars to get in. I was like,
I said to him, I said, I haven't paid a
cover like that since it was Pride and I was
trying to go to Charlie's News, right, and it was
(07:47):
it was a Saturday afternoon. So then we all looked
at each other, It's like, we're not paying this kind
of ridiculous scene, and we're also so we stood outside
and we started telling other people for getting ready to
walk in. I'm like, hey, just so you know, they're
charging a forty dollars cover. And they all looked at
us like what, and I'm like, yeah, So if you
go in and find out that they're not charging you
the cover, will you let us know? And we were
(08:08):
told by other people that they were not being charged
the forty dollars cover. Oh it was the special Maca cover.
We got the black only drinking fountain treatment. So anyway,
we walked outside and while we were waiting for the
rest of our group to show up, I decided to
make this TikTok video that has now been seen almost
(08:30):
one and a half million times and been picked up
quite a bit. This morning, in fact, US did a
television interview with a Canadian television station about this. So
about the intolerance of the gay community. I that's the
thing that's yeah to me. It wasn't about any kind
(08:50):
of self aggrandizement or anything like that. It really was
about drawing attention to the situation because I want to
hold the LGBTQ community to the same standard that they
are imposing on the rest of us, right, And it's
a if you look at this what they did to
Masterpiece Cake Shop, right right. They said, no, you have
(09:10):
to be inclusive, and you have to do business with us,
and you have to bake our cake. When they refused,
the owners of Masterpiece refused to make a wedding cake
for a lesbian couple. Then there's the website also here
in Colorado. So if you're going to turn around and
you're going to demand inclusivity and tolerance and respect of others,
you don't get to be the hypocrite and turn around
(09:32):
to deny that to the very people who fought for
your rights and your freedoms. We fought as gay men
to be able to come out of the closet and
live authentically as ourselves. And now they're going to turn
around and say, no, you don't get to do that.
And if you don't conform, and that's why I'm calling
them these conformist case, you're not welcome. And they're using
these dehumanizing and these villainizing terms to refer to us
(09:53):
as mega and as trash and rats and also calling
us us at dangerous And I just want people to
be aware that this is the exact same language that
Hitler and the Nazis used to justify the extermination of
the Jews US.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's what they've been calling us on the right for years.
Rich Kubenheim, I'm very glad amount of time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm like, that's what.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I appreciate everything that you're doing. I want you to
keep it up and we're going to keep talking about
it on the radio.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We'll see you next time.
Trying to help children with gays against groomers. Rich Gougenheim,
could you see my friends?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thanks Nanny.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
You guys had a big rally on Saturday. Tell me
about that.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh, the rally was great. We had quite the lineup
of speakers. Jen s with x Y Athletics fantastic. She
got to speak about this from a female professional athlete
perspective as such a valuable perspective we had. Let's see
who else did we have? Oh? Perhaps one of my
(00:30):
personal favorites because it was such an emotional story was
Chance our d transitioner talking about the harm and the
permanent damage that it did to her body transitioning and
why she, as a trans person, does not support doing
this to children. We had also how old was she
(00:51):
when she decided to did you?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm assuming she was a trans man and now she
is living as a female again.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
She yes, so female transition to man and is now
living as a female again. But it does it causes
irreversible harm, right, you know, it's not And a lot
of people think it's the surgeries, but it's not. It's
when you start taking wrong sex hormones and you're injecting
these chemicals into your body and it's going to have
an effect whether or not it's good or bad.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And it's a feature, not a bug.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, they don't tell you about all of the bad
things that these chemicals can do to your body when
you're when you're when you're doing it. And because if
they did that, they wouldn't make all the money off
of it, These big pharmaceutical industries and people like the
Pritzkers and the Strikers, right, So that's why they push it.
And we also had Aaron Lee spoke. We had Adam Vina,
(01:43):
who is a dad in California who lost the custody
of his five year old son for not allowing his
ex partner to transition their son Yep at the age
of three. God that that is. That is so upsetting
to me.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And I see these it's always liberal moms, right, and
I'm trying not to cast dispersions because I'm but I
don't know any right wing people that are transitioning their
three year old.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's only people.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
On the left, and they're usually people I feel like
their attention seeking themselves. They're living vicariously through their child.
They're upping their own status within their community. The children, Yes,
It's like when all the stars were adopting children from
Africa like they were new purses. You know, It's like,
those are children, those are human beings. It's not there
to satisfy you. In the easiest place, the best bargain
(02:38):
on children was in Africa. I feel like there's a
little bit of the same thing here, yep.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And it's it's just mind blowing to me. At that age,
they're like, well, they know who they are. I'm like, yeah,
they also believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus
and in the Easter Benny, which, by the way, if
you have kids listening, are all real. Of course, I mean, duh,
everybody knows that God's kids are working on their letters
to Santa. But literally, this is what we're doing. We're
telling these children at these ages and in the case
(03:02):
of some of these children, they're not even out of diapers,
and oh, you're just strands. I look at it this way.
They are calling us this hate group, this fascistoryup, this
bigoted people, etc. And all of that stuff. To me,
the most hateful thing that you can do is tell
a child that there is something wrong with them, that
(03:23):
they were born in the wrong body, and the only
way for them to live they're authentic, and I use
that in air quotes right being is to sterilize and
mutilate their body. That is the most hateful thing that
I can ever think of doing to a child, is
to intentionally lie to them, to cause them to harm
their body.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This is not I'm surprised, and you and I have
had such long conversations about this that I am surprised
that there is any there are any people left in
the gay community, whether gay men or lesbians that cannot
see I think this movement is a movement to eliminate
gay people. They're going to surgically make you straight.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, we can definitely talk about that as we get
into this. Yeah, and I tend to think that you
are onto something there. But it's also really ironic to
me that there is another media outlet here in Denver,
which I hope this is okay. It was CBS, and
it was the first time that mainstream media actually platformed
gays against groomers in any kind of fashion. So we've
(04:29):
been blacklisted by mainstream media. But they actually came out
and did a story and they interviewed on one of
the protesters who is a minister of a church who
affirms trans people. And I just think about, how can
you claim to believe in a perfect, all knowing God
who then turned around and made a mistake by putting
(04:52):
a child in the wrong body, right, And if you
believe in a God who's fallible, how can that God
provide you with salvation? Right. I'm not even a theologist.
I don't believe in We're on TV, right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But the thing that gets me rich and I think
the best analogy for me is would we allow a
three year old.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
To get a face tattoo? Of course not.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You would never allow a three year old to make
a decision about tattooing their face. And maybe you could
even say, well, you can have a tattoo removed, but
can you have it completely removed?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
No, there's always going to.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Be that shadow left behind, and the notion that somehow
you can put your kid on puberty blockers and everything's
going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yep, it is terrible. Well, it just shows that the
whole logical fallacy of the entire argument comes down to
the fact that they will literally tell you that well
that's who they are. Well, no, it's not. And the
difference between being gay and being transgender. Is gay is
an immutable characteristic. It is defined by genetics. I am
a man. I have X Y chromosomes, and I am
(05:53):
attracted to other men who have x Y chromosomes. Whereas
they will literally tell you that you our gender identity
is fluid and can change, well, then it's not. It
is then if it is fluid and can change, it
is a mutable characteristic, and it is a belief that
this is who you are.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right, you're appreciating the choir on this one. I mean
you truly are talk to me about what's going on
within the gay community and gays against groomers.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You guys are running into a bit of trouble. I
don't know about if I would call it trouble. I
feel like maybe that's yes. So after the rally, you know,
we had people from California, and we had people from
Wisconsin and Missouri, and we decided afterwards we wanted to
meet up and just kind of have a few drinks
(06:43):
and kind of celebrate the fact that this was a
fantastic This was a fantastic rally.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It truly was. So we all decided we would meet
up at Buddies well, buddies, this gay bar that's on Pennsylvania,
and Colfax decided, well, first of all, I'm sure you're
steners are aware of who Valdemar Archiletta.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Is Congressional District one candidate.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Friend of the show. Yes. So he was wearing his
be dazzled maga hat, very gay, very fabulous, very demure
in mind cold, and I was wearing and the rest
of us were wearing the red hat that I have
that says make gay bars gay again. The bouncer and
the owner of this bar decided that they wanted to
(07:26):
charge all of us a forty dollars cash cover. And
I looked at him, like, are you serious, You're really
going to charge us a forty dollars cover? And he'
said yeah, it's forty dollars to get in. I was like,
I said to him, I said, I haven't paid a
cover like that since it was Pride and I was
trying to go to Charlie's News, right, and it was
(07:47):
it was a Saturday afternoon. So then we all looked
at each other, It's like, we're not paying this kind
of ridiculous scene, and we're also so we stood outside
and we started telling other people for getting ready to
walk in. I'm like, hey, just so you know, they're
charging a forty dollars cover. And they all looked at
us like what, and I'm like, yeah, So if you
go in and find out that they're not charging you
the cover, will you let us know? And we were
(08:08):
told by other people that they were not being charged
the forty dollars cover. Oh it was the special Maca cover.
We got the black only drinking fountain treatment. So anyway,
we walked outside and while we were waiting for the
rest of our group to show up, I decided to
make this TikTok video that has now been seen almost
(08:30):
one and a half million times and been picked up
quite a bit. This morning, in fact, US did a
television interview with a Canadian television station about this. So
about the intolerance of the gay community. I that's the
thing that's yeah to me. It wasn't about any kind
(08:50):
of self aggrandizement or anything like that. It really was
about drawing attention to the situation because I want to
hold the LGBTQ community to the same standard that they
are imposing on the rest of us, right, And it's
a if you look at this what they did to
Masterpiece Cake Shop, right right. They said, no, you have
(09:10):
to be inclusive, and you have to do business with us,
and you have to bake our cake. When they refused,
the owners of Masterpiece refused to make a wedding cake
for a lesbian couple. Then there's the website also here
in Colorado. So if you're going to turn around and
you're going to demand inclusivity and tolerance and respect of others,
you don't get to be the hypocrite and turn around
(09:32):
to deny that to the very people who fought for
your rights and your freedoms. We fought as gay men
to be able to come out of the closet and
live authentically as ourselves. And now they're going to turn
around and say, no, you don't get to do that.
And if you don't conform, and that's why I'm calling
them these conformist case, you're not welcome. And they're using
these dehumanizing and these villainizing terms to refer to us
(09:53):
as mega and as trash and rats and also calling
us us at dangerous And I just want people to
be aware that this is the exact same language that
Hitler and the Nazis used to justify the extermination of
the Jews US.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's what they've been calling us on the right for years.
Rich Kubenheim, I'm very glad amount of time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm like, that's what.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I appreciate everything that you're doing. I want you to
keep it up and we're going to keep talking about
it on the radio.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We'll see you next time.
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