October 9, 2024 • 17 mins
WHY DOES HOLLYWOOD HATE WHITE PEOPLE? Of course I'm being sarcastic when I say that but our friend Christian Toto reminds us here that when Hollywood REALLY cares they spring into action but they haven't sprung much for hurricane victims right now. He joins me at 1 to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us now fan favorite and host favorite Christian Toto
of the Hollywood in Toto website and podcast and now
YouTube channel. He is everywhere a man about town, but
he still has time to write incredibly good stuff about Hollywood,
and that's what we're talking about today. Christian, welcome back
to the show. Of course, first, thank you a fan favorite.
(00:22):
I think you're stretching out a bit, but I'll take it.
You are a fan favorite, and you're a host's favorite,
which is more important than being a fan favorite, right
because I get to decide who comes on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I had no idea that Hollywood hates white people as
much as they do, but this is what we're seeing, right.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I think there's some other cultural factors here, but I
did recall. I mean, I think we all remember how
Hollywood rallied around the victims of the Hurricane Katrina catastrophe,
and I think that was a wonderful thing. And of course,
when Kanye West said George Bush hates black people, that
was a detour for sure. But you know, Hollywood in
general can be very generous. They open their pockets and
(01:02):
their purses and their wallets, and when there's a tragedy
in the country, sometimes they do wonderful things and they
really are generous to a fault, And I thought, where
is that today after Hurricane Helene. I just haven't seen it,
And there are little pockets. I think country music stars
have been the most aggressive in the space, but generally speaking,
I just think the industry has been kind of quiet.
(01:23):
So I did some comparing and contrasting to what happened
nearly twenty years ago with Kristina compared to what's happening now,
and it's like night and day.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I think that's I don't think that's an accident. Well,
a couple of.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Things that I would suggest, and I'm not asserting this
to be accurate at all, but one of them is
it's like everyone is so consumed with politics at this
moment in time, it's like real life. They can't let
it get in the way. They have to keep the
eye on the political prize and they have to keep
that going. And do you think that's part of it,
(01:59):
that they are otherwise engaged right now?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I think it's a small part of it, but I
think there's other factors in play. I mean, I think
The two biggest things we're talking about is that the
media is really not going wall to wall with the
hurricane damage and what's going on like they did with Kristina,
and then I was like that was necessary and needed.
I don't think that's happening quite so much today. So
I think that's sometimes the stars take the cues from
(02:25):
the media that they consume, which is uniformly left leaning,
like they are. But I also think that to draw
attention to this crisis showcases how inept the government has
been in this crisis, and you've got the Biden Harris
administration pulling those strings, and I think they realize that
some people may connect those dots.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's my theory. You can disagree, you know. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I wrote about this yesterday at my sight and I
ran it past a couple of friends. The idea behind
that this is not bad, I said, am I on
the right page here, It's just fair And they wrote
back and they they're pretty straight with me. They said, yeah,
I think you're right. So it was it was a
subject I didn't want to go into easily from glibly,
but I think there's merit here well.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And ultimately it comes back to politics right to your point,
if they focus on the devastation of Helene and the aftermath,
which has really been.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Bad.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's been really bad. Part of it is terrain in
North Carolina, which has made everything really really difficult. But
the conflicting stories coming out about whether or not the
government is responding. You have governmental officials saying everything is
going along, and then you have the people of North
Carolina on TikTok going no, it's not, no, it's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is good, nothing is fixed.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So I agree with you that the political aspect of
this is important, But isn't that sad?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I mean, we're still talking about human tragedy here, and
to downplay human tragedy for political gain or to avoid
the appearance of political blame is just a really sad
state of affairs in our country right now.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It is will stop.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I think that's the state of affairs country right now.
I think we're see it in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I also recorded how after Hurricane Katrina, I think it
was five or six days where a major you know,
celebrity telethon took kicked in and how the response was
so swift, and you know, I believe this hurricane landed
maybe around the twenty sixth, twenty seventh around there, and
you know of September, so you know, it's been a while,
and you think that that would be enough time for
(04:31):
that message to go forward, you know. But also this
is the media saying, oh my gosh, there's potentially a
huge story here of government ineptitude. Let's not have reporters
on the scene or on the ground and pool our
resources into confirming this is what's happening. It's like, standback,
we'll take the government's narrative and we'll make fun of
those yokuls who are saying there's problems on the ground. So,
(04:53):
you know, it's such a big picture catastrophe in so
many ways beyond the obvious tragedy in people's loss of
lives and things.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's American in twenty twenty four, and it's ugly. It's
incredibly ugly.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And now we're having Hurricane Milton bearing down on Florida,
which is run by a Republican governor. And I have
a feeling that the silence, the silence will get even
more deafening from Hollywood after this storm hits, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I mean I think that Desantas has proven to
be quite capable when these tragedies strike there his home
state there, and so there's not much to bite on.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So they won't cover it as much.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I mean they will to a certain degree, but it'd
be much more fun for the journalists. I mean, listen,
you and I have talked for years. Journalism used to
be imbalanced, biased.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Partners in it is now full blown corrupt.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And I hate to say that, and I don't say
it loosely, but what you're seeing is the end of
this institution as far as being trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There's something going on right now.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
At CBS at sixty minutes, we have been editing the
Kamala Harrison interview to death. I mean every day there's
a new scandal. So that's part of what we're talking
about here. It's just part of the thing. And by
the way, you know, we also had a year's worth
of hostages under the Hamas threat, and Hollywood has been
(06:14):
almost completely silent. I can name with people, and I
can use one hand to name the people speaking out.
It's Patricia Heaton, It's Michael Rappaport, It's Deborah Messing, it's
Amy Schumer. It's more or less it yeah, about hostages
conquered by terrorists who and some of them are Americans
who are still, you know, being held and may not survive.
(06:37):
And Hollywood doesn't give a damn because they know it
reflects badly on their party. Remember just yeah, please argue
with me, please, you know, play Devil's advocate.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now what other excuse can there be?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I've actually and I don't know if you saw this
story coming out of CBS News about what happened to
CBS News Morning anchor Tony Deakopole.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Did you see this story? Oh my god? No, So
he interviews.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's a perfect microcosm of how far journalism has fallen.
A journalist does a random act of journalism to quote
the late great Rush Limbaugh, and he has to do
a struggle session to apologize. It is shocking and embarrassing,
but it really isn't shocking because that's where journalism is
stay and to.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Bring everybody up to speed. CBS Morning co anchor Tony
de Coopole, and I think I'm saying his name right,
He did an interview with noted racist and anti semi
TENNEHISI coats, right, So TENNYHSI coats rose to fame during
the Black Lives Matter movement by telling white people that
we were inherently corrupt and wrong and racist and there
(07:38):
was nothing we could do about it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I can't stand this guy.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And he's written a new book that apparently is an
absolutely one sided polemic against Israel, and CBS journalist Tony
de Coople had the nerve to push back, and he
had the nerve to question him and push him on
some of these things and talk about the more extremist
elements of this book that does not mention Hamas hasbala Aran.
(08:02):
Not one time does it mention the end Fadas, Does
it mention any of that? Does it mention little children
being blown up in pizza parlors? And Tony push back
and CBS apparently called all the journalists into some kind
of zoom meeting to chastise them for doing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Journalism, and it's like, what are we doing? Who do
we trust? Now?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's that's really what it comes down to me, Christian,
because I know you feel the same way I do.
A robust and an earnest journalism. Media is incredibly important
to us.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Who do we trust now? Where do we look?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
The numbers are dwindling. I can't you and that very
small group. I also Magan Kelly, I think does a
mostly wonderful job. I used to think Tucker Carlson fell
in that category. He no longer in that category at all,
and that breaks my heart. Yeah, it's a it's a
very very small group of people who you are you
can take to the bank.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Michael Schellenberger I think.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Has been there, Oh yeah, a leading life on following
up on censorship concerns. He's literally on the Joe Rogan
Show as we speak, a new episode. So yeah, it's
a frightening situation we're in. We have more information than ever,
more ways to share it, and I just don't know
who to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Take to the bank. I just don't.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So I am now a subscriber to the Free Press.
I try to support all these little individual journalistic endeavors
that are usually disaffected journalists from places like the New
York Times and CBS and all of these other places.
But I think it is it's I don't want to
oversell this, but I think it's dangerous that we have
(09:36):
a large national media that is very invested in one
political party, and I don't know exactly how to fix this.
But I read this story at CBS. I was genuinely
horrified that people were called to the carpet.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
For asking difficult questions.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And that's what's happening now. It's like, oh, I'm sorry.
You can only ask difficult questions of those on the right.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And we can fix the media. They have no shame,
they have no scruples.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
The only thing we can do is to gently reach
out to people who are our center left, who are saying,
who are people that we love who may disagree with
us politically, and just show them piece by piece, story
by story. Can you see how corrupt the media is?
Can you understand that?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Now? Act accordingly.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's it's maybe the most dangerous part of our country
right now, is what you're describing.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Dangerous is the right word it is.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It is critical that we do that because otherwise I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Know what the alternative is. And by the way, you know,
when JD.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Vans is out there in a debate, he's sharp as
attack because he's been questioned by tough journalists over the
last how many weeks? And Governor Tim Waltz is doing
his I'm a knucklehead routine because he's never faced a
tough question. That's what you get when you have journalists
who are on one side.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got to let me touch on JD.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Vans for just a second because this kind of goes
to the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
JD.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Vans in that debate may have shown the way forward
when it comes to you dealing with the blatantly biased
media that is running debates, that is asking questions. He
came across as a happy warrior. He's obviously incredibly intelligent. Unfortunately,
I don't think a lot of our top tier politicians
have the mental brain power to.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Do the same.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But that, to me, that debate probably open the eyes
of a few more people about how biased the media
really is.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I agree,
I think that's the right approach.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You can't really come at someone and say how you're
wrong to see this isn't wave news stories in your hand,
because then their defenses rise up and they're not going
to accept the information. You know, we glibly talk about
people being red pilled, but that's what has to happen
organically for this to change.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The media will not change. They seem almost immune to criticism.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
At this point, we need to have people who are
smart and sensible and cautious and gentle, but firm with
the facts on their side and speak rationally to break
through what's going on. And Jade Vance is a great
person in that arena, but we need thousands of him
to move forward.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And yeah, listen, he's a unique politician at the stage.
They're a country. It's sad.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
You can always find great, great, great movie reviews, TV
reviews at Christian's website, Hollywood and Toto. He's got a
great podcast as well, where he interviews a lot of
people from the industry. I want to ask you specifically
about the new movie The Apprentice about Donald Trump, because
I yes.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I have a friend who saw it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
She is Mary Left, and she said, this film is
just brilliant. It's just brilliant, And immediately I knew I
wasn't going to see it because it obviously spoon fed
her everything that she wanted to see about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What are your thoughts on that film?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, listen, It's gonna get a split reaction for sure.
I listen, I'm voting for Trump. I'm supporting Trump. I'm
not a Trump fan per se. I see the flaws.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'm not immune to them, and I.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Think that would make a very powerful story about his
life in the eighties and how he rose up to power,
and I think there are elements of that in the film.
The first half is not bad at all, and it
does kind of chart that great performances from Jeremy Strong
Strong as Roy Cohen, his fixer, and Sebastian stan does
a nice job as Trump. But eventually you just see
(13:26):
what's going on. You see the fix and this is
about demonizing Trump. This is about attacking Trump. And what
it does so poorly is it robs Trump of any humanity.
Seen by scene by scene, he's shown as a monster,
and you know, like many people, he has multiple sides.
He's very funny, he could be generous, he could be charming,
and by not having any of that there, you're just basically,
(13:50):
you know, torpedoing your own film. And so it becomes
what was marginally interesting into an absolute, unabashed hit piece,
which is not entertaining, which rather dull and listen, if
you want to get all that, I just watched Stephen
Colbert at Night.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what you get.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But they should have told a great interesting movie from
a deeply flawed but fascinating figure there's a great movie
to be to be told about that this ain't it?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's like Donald Trump, like, take the politics.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Out of it. What an interesting complex person? This is right.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I mean, you don't have to embellish, you don't have
to try and add anything, because his entire life is
razzle dazzle, and his entire life is this constructed persona
that to me would should be a slam dunk for
a movie. It really should. And yet here we are,
Here we are, Christian Toto. Yeah, I appreciate you, Christian.
(14:44):
I appreciate you making time. I always read your site
before I go see a movie. I needed to ask
you before we go though about the new Demi Moore movie.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Have you reviewed this thing yet? I have. It's the substance.
It's a new horror film.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
It's been out a few weeks, get a lot of
award season buzz, surprisingly for a horror film. I watch everything.
I love horror movies. I can sit through anything on
the screen. I was squirming in my seat. There's actually
a lot of good satirical material in the film, and
to me, more is quite good in it. But Holy
Metral it is. The third act is just bring an
(15:20):
umbrella for all the gore and etc.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's on the screen. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, I hate horror movies and I hate gore. And
my best friend said, this movie is so good, but
you can't separate it from the gore. Because I was like, look,
just get it on, you know, get a copy and
then cut out all the gore for me.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
She goes, it wouldn't make sense. But she loved the movie,
absolutely loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
At the same time, she expressed horror about her own
love for the movie because it is so gory. So
I mean, did it have to be that gory or
is that just what they did?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, there's a lot of what they call body horror
in the film, which I think is essential to the story,
but I think that go over the top and then
some in the last ten twenty minutes, and I agree,
I think it was unnecessary because it is a satirical
look at aging about Hollywood, about sexism. Those are all
meaty topics that should be explored, and sometimes horror does
it so well. So there's a lot to admire the
(16:16):
style that the presentation is unparalleled, and so for that reason, alone,
it's fascinating to watch, but I just think they were
so in love with the FX that it really does
hurt the film. So it's worth watching. But again, if
you're squeamish about horror, I mean, I don't see how
you watch this.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I loved Demi Moore, and one of my good friends
said this is the best movie she's done since she
was very, very young, and she loved it except the gore,
and I'm like, I'm out. I don't even like to
watch the autopsy scenes on ncis okay, And they're not
even gory, Christian, They're just what they are. A Christian Toto.
Find him at Hollywood intoto dot com. Find his podcast,
(16:55):
Hollywood in Toto and his YouTube channel also Hollywood in
Toto as well.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, Christian, we'll talk to you again, Sue. My friend
sounds good. Thanks all right, thank you, Christian. Dodo
Joining us now fan favorite and host favorite Christian Toto
of the Hollywood in Toto website and podcast and now
YouTube channel. He is everywhere a man about town, but
he still has time to write incredibly good stuff about Hollywood,
and that's what we're talking about today. Christian, welcome back
to the show. Of course, first, thank you a fan favorite.
(00:22):
I think you're stretching out a bit, but I'll take it.
You are a fan favorite, and you're a host's favorite,
which is more important than being a fan favorite, right
because I get to decide who comes on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I had no idea that Hollywood hates white people as
much as they do, but this is what we're seeing, right.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I think there's some other cultural factors here, but I
did recall. I mean, I think we all remember how
Hollywood rallied around the victims of the Hurricane Katrina catastrophe,
and I think that was a wonderful thing. And of course,
when Kanye West said George Bush hates black people, that
was a detour for sure. But you know, Hollywood in
general can be very generous. They open their pockets and
(01:02):
their purses and their wallets, and when there's a tragedy
in the country, sometimes they do wonderful things and they
really are generous to a fault, And I thought, where
is that today after Hurricane Helene. I just haven't seen it,
And there are little pockets. I think country music stars
have been the most aggressive in the space, but generally speaking,
I just think the industry has been kind of quiet.
(01:23):
So I did some comparing and contrasting to what happened
nearly twenty years ago with Kristina compared to what's happening now,
and it's like night and day.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I think that's I don't think that's an accident. Well,
a couple of.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Things that I would suggest, and I'm not asserting this
to be accurate at all, but one of them is
it's like everyone is so consumed with politics at this
moment in time, it's like real life. They can't let
it get in the way. They have to keep the
eye on the political prize and they have to keep
that going. And do you think that's part of it,
(01:59):
that they are otherwise engaged right now?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I think it's a small part of it, but I
think there's other factors in play. I mean, I think
The two biggest things we're talking about is that the
media is really not going wall to wall with the
hurricane damage and what's going on like they did with Kristina,
and then I was like that was necessary and needed.
I don't think that's happening quite so much today. So
I think that's sometimes the stars take the cues from
(02:25):
the media that they consume, which is uniformly left leaning,
like they are. But I also think that to draw
attention to this crisis showcases how inept the government has
been in this crisis, and you've got the Biden Harris
administration pulling those strings, and I think they realize that
some people may connect those dots.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's my theory. You can disagree, you know. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I wrote about this yesterday at my sight and I
ran it past a couple of friends. The idea behind
that this is not bad, I said, am I on
the right page here, It's just fair And they wrote
back and they they're pretty straight with me. They said, yeah,
I think you're right. So it was it was a
subject I didn't want to go into easily from glibly,
but I think there's merit here well.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And ultimately it comes back to politics right to your point,
if they focus on the devastation of Helene and the aftermath,
which has really been.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Bad.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's been really bad. Part of it is terrain in
North Carolina, which has made everything really really difficult. But
the conflicting stories coming out about whether or not the
government is responding. You have governmental officials saying everything is
going along, and then you have the people of North
Carolina on TikTok going no, it's not, no, it's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is good, nothing is fixed.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So I agree with you that the political aspect of
this is important, But isn't that sad?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I mean, we're still talking about human tragedy here, and
to downplay human tragedy for political gain or to avoid
the appearance of political blame is just a really sad
state of affairs in our country right now.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It is will stop.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I think that's the state of affairs country right now.
I think we're see it in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I also recorded how after Hurricane Katrina, I think it
was five or six days where a major you know,
celebrity telethon took kicked in and how the response was
so swift, and you know, I believe this hurricane landed
maybe around the twenty sixth, twenty seventh around there, and
you know of September, so you know, it's been a while,
and you think that that would be enough time for
(04:31):
that message to go forward, you know. But also this
is the media saying, oh my gosh, there's potentially a
huge story here of government ineptitude. Let's not have reporters
on the scene or on the ground and pool our
resources into confirming this is what's happening. It's like, standback,
we'll take the government's narrative and we'll make fun of
those yokuls who are saying there's problems on the ground. So,
(04:53):
you know, it's such a big picture catastrophe in so
many ways beyond the obvious tragedy in people's loss of
lives and things.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's American in twenty twenty four, and it's ugly. It's
incredibly ugly.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And now we're having Hurricane Milton bearing down on Florida,
which is run by a Republican governor. And I have
a feeling that the silence, the silence will get even
more deafening from Hollywood after this storm hits, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I mean I think that Desantas has proven to
be quite capable when these tragedies strike there his home
state there, and so there's not much to bite on.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So they won't cover it as much.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I mean they will to a certain degree, but it'd
be much more fun for the journalists. I mean, listen,
you and I have talked for years. Journalism used to
be imbalanced, biased.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Partners in it is now full blown corrupt.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And I hate to say that, and I don't say
it loosely, but what you're seeing is the end of
this institution as far as being trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There's something going on right now.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
At CBS at sixty minutes, we have been editing the
Kamala Harrison interview to death. I mean every day there's
a new scandal. So that's part of what we're talking
about here. It's just part of the thing. And by
the way, you know, we also had a year's worth
of hostages under the Hamas threat, and Hollywood has been
(06:14):
almost completely silent. I can name with people, and I
can use one hand to name the people speaking out.
It's Patricia Heaton, It's Michael Rappaport, It's Deborah Messing, it's
Amy Schumer. It's more or less it yeah, about hostages
conquered by terrorists who and some of them are Americans
who are still, you know, being held and may not survive.
(06:37):
And Hollywood doesn't give a damn because they know it
reflects badly on their party. Remember just yeah, please argue
with me, please, you know, play Devil's advocate.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now what other excuse can there be?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I've actually and I don't know if you saw this
story coming out of CBS News about what happened to
CBS News Morning anchor Tony Deakopole.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Did you see this story? Oh my god? No, So
he interviews.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's a perfect microcosm of how far journalism has fallen.
A journalist does a random act of journalism to quote
the late great Rush Limbaugh, and he has to do
a struggle session to apologize. It is shocking and embarrassing,
but it really isn't shocking because that's where journalism is
stay and to.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Bring everybody up to speed. CBS Morning co anchor Tony
de Coopole, and I think I'm saying his name right,
He did an interview with noted racist and anti semi
TENNEHISI coats, right, So TENNYHSI coats rose to fame during
the Black Lives Matter movement by telling white people that
we were inherently corrupt and wrong and racist and there
(07:38):
was nothing we could do about it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I can't stand this guy.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And he's written a new book that apparently is an
absolutely one sided polemic against Israel, and CBS journalist Tony
de Coople had the nerve to push back, and he
had the nerve to question him and push him on
some of these things and talk about the more extremist
elements of this book that does not mention Hamas hasbala Aran.
(08:02):
Not one time does it mention the end Fadas, Does
it mention any of that? Does it mention little children
being blown up in pizza parlors? And Tony push back
and CBS apparently called all the journalists into some kind
of zoom meeting to chastise them for doing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Journalism, and it's like, what are we doing? Who do
we trust? Now?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's that's really what it comes down to me, Christian,
because I know you feel the same way I do.
A robust and an earnest journalism. Media is incredibly important
to us.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Who do we trust now? Where do we look?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
The numbers are dwindling. I can't you and that very
small group. I also Magan Kelly, I think does a
mostly wonderful job. I used to think Tucker Carlson fell
in that category. He no longer in that category at all,
and that breaks my heart. Yeah, it's a it's a
very very small group of people who you are you
can take to the bank.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Michael Schellenberger I think.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Has been there, Oh yeah, a leading life on following
up on censorship concerns. He's literally on the Joe Rogan
Show as we speak, a new episode. So yeah, it's
a frightening situation we're in. We have more information than ever,
more ways to share it, and I just don't know
who to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Take to the bank. I just don't.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So I am now a subscriber to the Free Press.
I try to support all these little individual journalistic endeavors
that are usually disaffected journalists from places like the New
York Times and CBS and all of these other places.
But I think it is it's I don't want to
oversell this, but I think it's dangerous that we have
(09:36):
a large national media that is very invested in one
political party, and I don't know exactly how to fix this.
But I read this story at CBS. I was genuinely
horrified that people were called to the carpet.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
For asking difficult questions.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And that's what's happening now. It's like, oh, I'm sorry.
You can only ask difficult questions of those on the right.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And we can fix the media. They have no shame,
they have no scruples.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
The only thing we can do is to gently reach
out to people who are our center left, who are saying,
who are people that we love who may disagree with
us politically, and just show them piece by piece, story
by story. Can you see how corrupt the media is?
Can you understand that?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Now? Act accordingly.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's it's maybe the most dangerous part of our country
right now, is what you're describing.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Dangerous is the right word it is.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It is critical that we do that because otherwise I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Know what the alternative is. And by the way, you know,
when JD.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Vans is out there in a debate, he's sharp as
attack because he's been questioned by tough journalists over the
last how many weeks? And Governor Tim Waltz is doing
his I'm a knucklehead routine because he's never faced a
tough question. That's what you get when you have journalists
who are on one side.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got to let me touch on JD.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Vans for just a second because this kind of goes
to the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
JD.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Vans in that debate may have shown the way forward
when it comes to you dealing with the blatantly biased
media that is running debates, that is asking questions. He
came across as a happy warrior. He's obviously incredibly intelligent. Unfortunately,
I don't think a lot of our top tier politicians
have the mental brain power to.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Do the same.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But that, to me, that debate probably open the eyes
of a few more people about how biased the media
really is.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I agree,
I think that's the right approach.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You can't really come at someone and say how you're
wrong to see this isn't wave news stories in your hand,
because then their defenses rise up and they're not going
to accept the information. You know, we glibly talk about
people being red pilled, but that's what has to happen
organically for this to change.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The media will not change. They seem almost immune to criticism.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
At this point, we need to have people who are
smart and sensible and cautious and gentle, but firm with
the facts on their side and speak rationally to break
through what's going on. And Jade Vance is a great
person in that arena, but we need thousands of him
to move forward.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And yeah, listen, he's a unique politician at the stage.
They're a country. It's sad.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
You can always find great, great, great movie reviews, TV
reviews at Christian's website, Hollywood and Toto. He's got a
great podcast as well, where he interviews a lot of
people from the industry. I want to ask you specifically
about the new movie The Apprentice about Donald Trump, because
I yes.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I have a friend who saw it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
She is Mary Left, and she said, this film is
just brilliant. It's just brilliant, And immediately I knew I
wasn't going to see it because it obviously spoon fed
her everything that she wanted to see about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What are your thoughts on that film?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, listen, It's gonna get a split reaction for sure.
I listen, I'm voting for Trump. I'm supporting Trump. I'm
not a Trump fan per se. I see the flaws.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'm not immune to them, and I.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Think that would make a very powerful story about his
life in the eighties and how he rose up to power,
and I think there are elements of that in the film.
The first half is not bad at all, and it
does kind of chart that great performances from Jeremy Strong
Strong as Roy Cohen, his fixer, and Sebastian stan does
a nice job as Trump. But eventually you just see
(13:26):
what's going on. You see the fix and this is
about demonizing Trump. This is about attacking Trump. And what
it does so poorly is it robs Trump of any humanity.
Seen by scene by scene, he's shown as a monster,
and you know, like many people, he has multiple sides.
He's very funny, he could be generous, he could be charming,
and by not having any of that there, you're just basically,
(13:50):
you know, torpedoing your own film. And so it becomes
what was marginally interesting into an absolute, unabashed hit piece,
which is not entertaining, which rather dull and listen, if
you want to get all that, I just watched Stephen
Colbert at Night.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what you get.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But they should have told a great interesting movie from
a deeply flawed but fascinating figure there's a great movie
to be to be told about that this ain't it?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's like Donald Trump, like, take the politics.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Out of it. What an interesting complex person? This is right.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I mean, you don't have to embellish, you don't have
to try and add anything, because his entire life is
razzle dazzle, and his entire life is this constructed persona
that to me would should be a slam dunk for
a movie. It really should. And yet here we are,
Here we are, Christian Toto. Yeah, I appreciate you, Christian.
(14:44):
I appreciate you making time. I always read your site
before I go see a movie. I needed to ask
you before we go though about the new Demi Moore movie.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Have you reviewed this thing yet? I have. It's the substance.
It's a new horror film.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
It's been out a few weeks, get a lot of
award season buzz, surprisingly for a horror film. I watch everything.
I love horror movies. I can sit through anything on
the screen. I was squirming in my seat. There's actually
a lot of good satirical material in the film, and
to me, more is quite good in it. But Holy
Metral it is. The third act is just bring an
(15:20):
umbrella for all the gore and etc.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's on the screen. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, I hate horror movies and I hate gore. And
my best friend said, this movie is so good, but
you can't separate it from the gore. Because I was like, look,
just get it on, you know, get a copy and
then cut out all the gore for me.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
She goes, it wouldn't make sense. But she loved the movie,
absolutely loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
At the same time, she expressed horror about her own
love for the movie because it is so gory. So
I mean, did it have to be that gory or
is that just what they did?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, there's a lot of what they call body horror
in the film, which I think is essential to the story,
but I think that go over the top and then
some in the last ten twenty minutes, and I agree,
I think it was unnecessary because it is a satirical
look at aging about Hollywood, about sexism. Those are all
meaty topics that should be explored, and sometimes horror does
it so well. So there's a lot to admire the
(16:16):
style that the presentation is unparalleled, and so for that reason, alone,
it's fascinating to watch, but I just think they were
so in love with the FX that it really does
hurt the film. So it's worth watching. But again, if
you're squeamish about horror, I mean, I don't see how
you watch this.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I loved Demi Moore, and one of my good friends
said this is the best movie she's done since she
was very, very young, and she loved it except the gore,
and I'm like, I'm out. I don't even like to
watch the autopsy scenes on ncis okay, And they're not
even gory, Christian, They're just what they are. A Christian Toto.
Find him at Hollywood intoto dot com. Find his podcast,
(16:55):
Hollywood in Toto and his YouTube channel also Hollywood in
Toto as well.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, Christian, we'll talk to you again, Sue. My friend
sounds good. Thanks all right, thank you, Christian. Dodo
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