10-10-24 FULL SHOW - I'm At The Great American Beer Festival Today

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock,
accident and injury lawyers from the Great American Beer Festival.
Tickets at Great American Beer Festival dot com.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Mandyconnell on KLA.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Ninety more one God and then.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Ray By Connell, Sad bab.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Well, Brocca. Welcome from the Great American Beer Festival at
Colorado's Convention Center downtown. I'm your host, Mandy Connell. And
back at Master Control is one mister Anthony Rodriguez. You
can call him a rock. And those were the most

(00:58):
passive aggressive air horns I've ever heard in my entire
life as Anthony uh he actually, well, never mind, it's
not worth going into. I am at the Great American
Beer Festival right now. And Aeron, have you ever been here?
Have you ever done this?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I have.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
I did a live show out there with Mark Stouts
back in the Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
That's right, just sold me that yesterday. Yes, well, I
you know right now, all the brewers are here and
they're all setting up, right, how I've seen zero? Because
literally no, no, no, you don't understand. When I say
all the brewers are here and they're setting up, I'm
lying because a fraction of the brewers are here to
set up. The rest of the ruers are still sleeping
in apparently, so it opens tonight, so I'm guessing there's

(01:38):
going to be a flurry of beer activity very very soon.
There is, however, already beer in these booths, so if
I really wanted to be sneaky, I could probably pop
around to like all of these booths right now and
try everything, but then the show would take a very
quick downhill turn at that point. So there's a lot
of things that are different this year in the beer festival,
as craft brew is having a little bit of a

(02:01):
what's the word that I'm looking for, a regulation meaning
I think we've hit peak craft beer and now only
the strong will survive, but the stronger here at the
Great American Beer Festival. But it's not just about beer
this year. They also have siders. They have a lot
of non alcoholic products they have already ready to go,
like ready to drink cocktails and cans. So it's definitely

(02:23):
a little more for everything or everybody here and I'll
be here, the guys will be here in the afternoon,
and then of course Broncos Country to Night will be
here and It is going Friday, Saturday, and Thursday night,
Friday and Saturday, and tickets are still available at Great
American Beerfest dot com. So I do have a blog
to get to, even though I have a couple of

(02:44):
interviews coming up. We're going to talk to Ann with
the Brewers Association in just a little bit, but let's
do the blog first, because I got at Okay, I
don't have that much stuff on the blog today, but
I went deep on some stuff today that we have
to talk about, stuff that I have been thinking about
and stuff that I've been reading about. Today's the day
we're gonna go deep. So we got beer on one side,
we got deep on the other side. So it's gonna

(03:04):
be a whack a doodle kind of show. But let
me tell you what's on the blog and where to
find it. Just go to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog
dot com. Look for the headline that says ten ten
twenty four blog I'm at the Great American Beer Festival today.
Click on that, and here are the headlines you will
find with it. Nice Nice's Listening Office, half of American

(03:25):
All with ships and clipments and press class today on
the blog. My voter guide is out. The Great American
Beer Festival is this weekend. We're talking about selling sex scrolling.
Danielle Jorinsky previews the Trump rally, Milton Ate, the roof
of Tropicana Field, will Aurora apartment residents get relief. Now, oh, scrolling, scrolling,

(03:47):
We need to talk about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
What would happen if Kamala gets her wealth tax? The
Denver Gazette doesn't like rate choice voting, the truth about
who pays their fair share. Israel takes out the head
of the Ox, the Martyrs Brigade. CBS has lost its mind.
What to do if when the federal government collapses. I
love a good implosion. Democrats have lost the joy. Yes,

(04:12):
there really are skinny genes. This is why universities need
an ideological purge. You know, reverse comes to trick or
treat Forty times men were confused by women, So it's
wrong to give sleep patches, but not transition kids. Scrolling,
scrolling about that Jack Phillips headline, And those are the

(04:33):
headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Now, as
much as I love being at the Great American Beer
Festival at the Colorado Convention Center. OMG, a rod the
wi fi here.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Not fast, not good, opposite though, the.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Opposite of fast. Well that's because I'm hardwired into the
you know, the thing of a jiggy. I got the
thing of a jiggy and whatnot. So I'm I'm perfectly fine,
but you know, the WiFi is a wee bit challenging.
That being set today on the blog, I'm super excited
about having a young woman from The Daily Caller named
Claire Carson the Daily Caller. There's an interesting thing happening

(05:09):
right now with news organizations, and actually many right leaning
news organizations. Left leaning news organizations have been doing this
stuff for a very long time, but now right leaning
organizations like The Daily Caller are finally creating content to
be consumed by everyone. I mean, let's face it, more
people are watching documentaries, more people are listening to podcasts

(05:31):
than ever before. So if we're going to get a
message out that would maybe make a case in a
very subtle way for a more conservative values and positions,
then you've got to do these kind of documentaries. And
this one is called selling Sex. And you have to
be a member of Daily Caller to get access to

(05:52):
this documentary, but you can get a month trial of
their service for free. And I would say i'd recommend it.
This documentary thirty seven minutes long. We're going to talk
to Claire Carson about it at about one o'clock. And
it is an excellent, excellent film about selling sex via
only fans or other forms of pornography. And she did

(06:15):
a great job. I have some questions, though, questions that
I would have loved and maybe I just missed when
she asked them. She talks to people who are only
fans performers. She talks to people who had a poor
an addiction and are now on the other side and
talk about how that affected them and how one of
them started watching pornography when he was eight years old.

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It is a great film and I'm excited to talk
to Clear about it at one o'clock. I also have
Daniel Drinsky. We all know Donald Trump's coming to town tomorrow.
He's going to be at the Convention Set, not the
convention set or what am I saying, the Gay Lord
Rockies Convention Center. And right now, I think there's going
to be about twelve thousand, a little over twelve thousand
people that have gotten tickets. They keep making more tickets available,

(07:00):
and I don't know if the space is maxed out already.
But if you go to Donald Trump dot com you
can find out. It will tell you about the events,
and it will tell you if it is indeed sold out,
and if it is sold out, I would keep checking
back because they've opened up space four more times, so
we'll see if any more tickets are available. But Danielle,
I'm assuming is going to be invited to the Trump

(07:21):
rally because it was her trying to draw attention to
a significant issue with a couple of apartment complexes that
really set this story on fire. And then it started
to burn out of control. And then the story went
from you know, we have a gang issue in some
apartment complexes to gangs have taken over Aurora, which was
not the case, never the case, and it's I hope

(07:45):
that we get some clarity. Now here's the thing now
that the Trump or the Trump campaign has realized, recognized
whatever been backed up by polling data, has recognized that
getting people worried about immigration is a good motivator. Because
remember we've talked about on the show. We've talked many
times on the show anger and fear are far better

(08:09):
motivators to get someone to vote than just being a
great person and having him really really like you. People
are much more likely to vote when they are a
little bit nervous and scared than they are if they
are yeah, I love this candidate. It's just different kinds
of motivation. And we see this coming out of the
Democrats campaign, where they're trying to convince everybody that if

(08:29):
Donald Trump gets re elected, all of the women are
going to be shoved back into the kitchen and tied
to the stove, which is clearly not the reality of
what would happen, but that's what they're trying to scare
their people with, that he's a threat to democracy, that
he must be stopped. All of these things. It's all
about ginning up your base, right, ginning up people because
now as tight as all the polling data is, and

(08:52):
whether you're looking at left leaning polls or right leaning polls,
everything is tight, so every vote matters. So I'm afraid
that that of maybe putting the cork on the bottle
of aurar has been taken over by gangs is it
might be too late because it's a great talking point
and at this stage in the game, the situation seems

(09:12):
to have been handled, and now we have a story
today on the blog that the apartment complex owners who
I will always maintain were slum lords because they were
Both of those things can be true. By the way,
remember this that you can be a slum lord, but
also it could have been taken over by Venezuelan gangs.
Both of those things can exist in the same space.
Now we see the owner of those apartment complexes have

(09:35):
defaulted on a loan that they use the apartment complexes
for collateral, so they have just they have essentially relieved
themselves of the burden of these properties by defaulting on
loans for something else, so they still have the money.

(09:56):
And I don't know how all this shakes out. I
don't know what exactly happens in this case when you
lose a building that you used as collateral. I mean,
I'm guessing they still have to pay if their loans
on the apartments. I don't know. I don't know how
it all works. But nonetheless, the buildings have now been
taken over by a receiver ship, and the receivership is

(10:17):
going to have to figure out how to clean up
this mess so the buildings can be properly sold. They
apparently have been devalued considerably since the landlord's bought them
just a short time ago, and they have a lot
of issues. They have a lot of structural and physical
issues that need to be fixed, and therefore that price
is gonna have to come down. But nonetheless the slum
lords are going to be out. I think of those

(10:39):
three buildings, I don't know if it's always three, or
if it's just two or what. I don't know. So
they are going to figure that out. So here we are.
We've got Trump coming tomorrow. I got Daniel Jorinsky coming
on at two thirty, and I'm gonna ask her, what
are you going to say to Donald Trump if you
have a chance to speak with him for any amount

(11:00):
of time. And I don't know why he wouldn't talk
to her, if you know, if he's coming here. She's
the one that got this ball rolling, so I would
hope that she would have a moment to talk to him.
And I'm gonna ask her, like, what are you gonna say?
Let's talk about that for a second, so we'll see
what happens. I mean, I know a lot of people
are super excited about this. A lot of the groups
that I'm in are buzzing with excitement because you know

(11:21):
Trump is coming, and they're all excited. They already have
their tickets, And I think that's great. You know what,
go and have yourself a good old time, and hopefully
nothing bad happens while he's here in Colorado. And I
don't say that as like some coded message of like, yeah,
something bad could happen. I say that because of there
There's already been two attempts on Donald Trump's life, so
I don't want to see any of that here in Colorado.

(11:43):
I think you know, he's gonna be here for a
very short period of time. He's at the Gaylord, which
is right by the airport. I would tell you if
you're flying in or out of DA tomorrow at any
time from like eleven thirty to maybe four o'clock, I
would I would check and see what that's going to

(12:03):
look like, because when oh he's not president, what am
I thinking? I'm thinking of air Force one. Now you
should be fine, but never mind, you should be fine anyway.
So we're gonna have a chance to ask Danielle about
that a little bit later. In the show. Now good good,
good videos on the blog today, including one of the
Tropicana Field. We've got two tropic cannas on the blog today.

(12:27):
This never happens, ay, rock Can you remember a time
when we had two tropic cannas on the field? No,
I can't either. So we've got Tropicana Field in Saint
Petersburg which had literally the lid blown off my hurricane.
Milton got some video of that. I did make the
joke a roark. Was it too soon for me to
make the joke that the good news was that this
would not affect any playoff games?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Was it too.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah? Really, I mean it's.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Not like people were dying in the Tropicana Field. Nobody died,
nobody was injured. I made sure nobody was injured before
I made the joke. Does that help? It's a stadium
roof it blew off. I thought that was kind of funny.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
It helped, I guess I got.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
You gotta be able to make light right in the
middle of it. You either laugh or you cry, and
I choose to laugh at the expense of the Rays,
who are bad, not as bad as the Rockies, but
they're bad, you know. I didn't even have to look
to see if they were in the playoffs. I did
just to make sure, but I didn't have to because
I knew they didn't know.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
They've no.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
On the contrary, they've been pretty darn good years. Yes,
past year recently, just like the year and what lady
last year.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
They weren't last year. They were okay last year. I
think they last year, I think they made it to
the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
As a matter of fact, for years.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
They play in such a tough division, though they've got
the Yankees, the Red Sox. Well, you know, anyway, I'm wondering, though, honestly,
now that the roof got blown off, do you think
that the ownership is going to be like, that's it.
We're not rebuilding this. We're gonna rebuild something. We're gonna
build something in Tampa. I really I think that that. Well,

(14:04):
they've there's been rumors about that since the team decided
to go to Saint Petersburg, But that was when Saint
Petersburg was in a bad way, right, It was not
doing well. Their downtown was absolutely deserted. There was nothing
going on. Well, now when you go to Saint Pete
there's like a downtown area, there's an entertained well. I
haven't been there since COVID, so I don't know what's left.
But it's like a jump in downtown, and it's Saint

(14:26):
Pete can stand on its own two feet, right. And
if you want people at the games that are not
there to watch the opposing team, then maybe you move
it to Tampa, maybe over by Raymond James, although that
whole thing around Raymond James is a neighborhoods, so there's
no place to put it over there.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yout a video though, what's that roof made of? Why
is all that like?

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Like, I mean, obviously it's not cloth, but it looks
like really like flimsy cloth like material hair?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
You know what, God is my witness? They rod. I
thought it had a metal roof, and I've been to
a million games there, so it's not like I have
it sat there and stared at the roof because that's
what you do. And I thought it was metal. And
then I see this last night and I'm like, I'm
with you. I was like, what the heck is that
made out of? Like is that a giant parachute? What
are they using to make that? So we've got that

(15:14):
video on the.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Lass semi translucent fiberglass roof designed to withstand hurricane force
winds in the nineties when the stadium was built.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
But yeah, that didn't work out. No, yeah, not at all.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Is that what it's still like?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
It must be? I mean, why would you fix it
if it wasn't blown off fire hurricane until now? Why
would you change it? You assumed it was, you know,
good to go. And like I said, nobody wants to
invest a bunch of money in Tropicana Field because I
love Tropicana Field. And if they build a stadium, they
have to build a retractable roof anyway, right, because it's
too miserable in Florida in the summer to go to

(15:52):
a baseball game. It's just it's horrible. It is. Going
to a Marlins game is like punishment. It is awful.
It's the most miserable you will ever be in a
sporting event. It's like a billion degrees. You literally get
your beer from the lady and it's warm. Before you
turn around.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
You said metal. It is.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
The metal frame appeared to be unscathed. But the roof,
like I said, made of it's called ethylene. I'm not
going to try to pronounce, but I will tetra flora ethylene,
a polymer that is stronger than glass but significantly lighter,
is what that was made.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Ah, Okay, well we know that didn't work now.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
No, so the metal frame apparently was okay, yeah, it
was fine.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
It was. It's kind of you know, kind of cool
to see that video. I know, I'm not supposed to
celebrate other stuff.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
By the way, real quick, Ry Rosters told me DeSantis
believed that that roof was made to withstand what one
hundred and ten miles an hour ross one hundred and
ten miles an hour wind.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They had to build it to Hurricane Andrews standards because
the building standards in Florida dramatically changed after Hurricane.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I'm also seeing this article. Yeah, according to the rays,
it was built to a stand up to one hundred
and fifteen miles an hour wind so pan, and it
says the roof is supported by one hundred and eighty
miles of cables connected by struts, in what the team
calls the world's largest cable supported domed roof.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
All right, so what we're saying is, I mean, would
you rebuild it?

Speaker 6 (17:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I wouldn't. I don't know if I would or not.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
It also cost one hundred and thirty eight million.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Oh good lord, I love Tropicana Field.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
But do you to be replaced in time for the
twenty twenty eight season with a one point three billion
dollars ballpark apparently or maybe in Saint Pete?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Say, I do not see that?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Okay, Well, I mean they've got plenty of room around
that stadium where they could literally build a stadium next
to it and then implode the old stadium, you know
what I'm saying. So they have the room there down
there to do it. They have this big walkway that
you walk up to get to the stadium, so they
could do that.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
The other Tropicana on the blog today is the Tropicana
Hotel in Las Vegas, and it is no more. I
love a good implosion. I don't know about U A.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
Rod.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Do you love a good implosion? Oh?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
They're super cool. I want to see one in person
one day.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, I actually did I not ever tell you this?
So do you remember have you ever seen the Lethal
Weapon movies? I almost hesitated? Okay, So Lethal Weapon two
starts with Murtaw and Riggs running out of a building
that then falls down right. Okay, So that was Orlando,
Florida's old City Hall and that was during my last decade.

(18:21):
That happened at three o'clock in the morning. So what
do you think we did after we got out of
the bar at two am? We went positioned ourselves to
watch that implosion, and so we watched the two setmen
run out of the building as and then it imploded
behind them. Oh yeah, exactly. You only got one chance.
You got one chance on that. And now on the
blog today, not only did the Las Vegas implode the

(18:43):
Tropic Canada to make room for a new hard rock hotel,
they of course had a five and a half minute
fireworks display and drone show before they imploded it.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, the TNT like like the cartoony like pushed down.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, that was It was pretty awesome.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
That was so Vegas. Yeah, exactly, anything else.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Exactly, That's exactly what I was gonna say. If you
ever want to know what makes Vegas Vegas, go watch
this video. They don't just implode a building, they celebrate
it and then send it to its death. It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
No Sin city action there, it was no sin It
was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
It was really really great I also told you if
you want to skip through the fireworks, you can go
up to the six eighteen mark to watch the building's fall. Okay,
let's take a quick time out. When we get back,
I want you to play that Sam Adams interview that
I did. Aron. Let's kick things off with that, and
I want to talk about some stuff that's on the
blog today that we're gonna do a little bit of

(19:36):
a deep dive on. And we're going to start with
the Southern Poverty Law Center. They're in the news because
they put themselves there, and we're going to talk about
what it is they've done, who they are, and why
they're just an arm of the Democratic Party. Now, when
we get back, it will be open today, I believe
at five o'clock. I think that's when it opens today.
It'll be today, tomorrow and Saturday. And it is not

(19:57):
the beer festival you remember if you have been here before,
because they have broadened so much in terms of giving
people what they want. They've got Seltzer's, they've got all
kinds of stuff that they've never had before. They've got
ready to drink cocktails and cans. They've got a lot
of non alcoholic stuff, here for the I know that
they've had that in the past, but a lot of

(20:17):
non alcoholic beers and stuff like that. So go to
Great American Beer Festival dot com to buy your tickets.
But one of the first people that I saw when
I walked in was sam Adams Brewing, and I had
a chance to talk to one of their brewers. Okay,
if you've listened to the show for any length of time,
you know I have a special place in my heart
for Jim Cook of sam Adams Beer. He's been on

(20:37):
the show several times and they truly are kind of
like the og Kraft Beer. So I was really excited
to see a Sam Adams booth here at the Great
American Beer FESTI and right now I'm talking to Jennifer Glanville.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
She is a brewer and director of Partnerships at Samuel Adams.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Now, you guys really are the OG of craft beer.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
We are in this particular. Ye're so exciting for us.
This is our fortieth anniversary Sam Adams, and as many
people know, we got our start really the JBF helped
launch sam Adams so forty years ago. We won the
Best Beer in America on the Consumer Preface poll. Everybody
used to do it that way where that everybody attendant
can vote. So we love coming every year. It's like
coming home for us. We love coming to Denver.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's always been.

Speaker 8 (21:17):
Such an awesome beer scene. And to be able to
come here and talk to talk to all these awesome
drinkers and guests, it's just it's so much fun.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
We're all so excited. I don't think a lot of
people realize that you guys do a lot to support
craft brewers yourself as a company. We do.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:33):
So we have a program called Bereing the American Dream,
and we provide capital and coaching to small brewers around
the country.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
We also work in gym works.

Speaker 8 (21:41):
Tirelessly on Capitol Hill and pushing through a lot of
things that help small brewers around the country. And for us,
we've had our hop sharing program when there was a
hop shortage. So for us, it's really you know, it's
about rising tides. We love craft beer. We're proud of
our roots and craft beer. We want to support other
brewers around the country so we can continue to grow
this awesome industry.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, what do you guys bring in this year?

Speaker 8 (22:03):
Well, we have some Today, we have some awesome collaborations
with our Breen American Dreams. So we have Funky Town,
which we did a logger out of Chicago called nineteen
eighty four Pair Lagger. We have Farmer's Fortitude. It's with
a brewery out of Maine, Outland Farms Brewery. We have
a special Schneider Rice as a clab with Schneider out
of Germany. We have our Utopius of course, which you
know will be a massive line for that. We have

(22:24):
our og Boston Lager october Fest, so we're really excited.
We have a brand new beer called American Light. It's
not available in Colorado yet, it will be available nationally
in March, so we're super excited to bring it here
and have folks taste it and tell us what they think.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Jennifer, thank you so much for making time and thank
you for being here once again forty years after your
big win.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
Yeah, cheers, thank you.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know, that's one case of a small brewery that
has become huge and a lot of like kind of
newer craft brewers who don't understand really the history of
Sam Adams, which is Jim Cook driving around from bar
to bar with beer in his trunk of his car
to get bars to put his beer in the bar. Right,
So it's a great story. He's got written books about it.

(23:06):
But they really are and they do so much to
support new brewers. Even now, I mean to this day,
they still are working very hard to support craft beer.
And I was happy to see them here and happy
to see them with their nice prominent location. So I
got a question, a Rod, do you remember the first
time you had beer?

Speaker 5 (23:24):
I know that a big beer guy overall, I'm not,
but I do remember the exact time I had beer.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yes, first to tell me about that.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
My dad and I were going to an Avalanche game
and for the first time, he just I think, got
it and pushed it across the table and said give
it a whirl.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was like, really, how old were you?

Speaker 4 (23:40):
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
I might knowing me and knowing how straight edge I am,
I might have been like barely at age.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I don't recall, but it was a beautiful moment.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Wait, like you were like eighteen, or you were twenty
one or what.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
I honestly, I couldn't tell you the adult Yes, I
was an adult yet, but based on my excitement, I
would venture it's probably in that you know, eighteen to
twenty one range, just right around the money spot.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
But right it was a beautiful.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Moment, and at the time it really matter that it
was beer, but you know, it was still like.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh appreciate. Oh see. Now that's really funny because this
is such a telling thing about gen X versus millennials
or gen Z because the first time I had beer,
I was probably maybe four or five. Because when I
went to wait, wait, hear me out. And there's a
lot of gen xers in this audience right now who
are going to be nodding along right now with this story.

(24:33):
When I was a kid, my dad would say, go
get me a beer. I would go to the fridge,
I would get the beer, and then he would let
me take the first sip. That was my reward forgetting
My dad'd be oh yeah, oh I can't okay. I
want all of my gen xers. I want you to
send a text message right now to five six six nine,
our our common spirital text line. If your dad let

(24:53):
you take a drag off his beer when you went
and got a beer, and how old you were the
first time it happened. I mean, honestly, I don't remember
what it didn't happened a rod like. I don't remember
the first time because it just was a thing throughout
my entire childhood, not the whole can like he wasn't
like here, shotgun this beer, but he would open it
and then I would get the first drag. So there
you go. I mean that's childhood and gen X compared

(25:16):
to now. It really is. In one thumbnail sketch, Ralph
asked a question and I don't know the answer to it.
And the question is, can eighteen year olds buy non
alcoholic beer? I don't know. When I was eighteen, I
would have never bought non alcoholic beer. I rarely buy
non alcoholic beer. Now I buy it for friends who

(25:36):
are non drinkers at this point, who still enjoy a beer.
And thank god, there are actually some beers that are
non alcoholic that are kind of good. There's one here
I mentioned to DeRoss earlier called ration Ale that is
very highly awarded. So I'd like to give that a try,
because the older I get, the less I am able
to handle my beer.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Wow, I'm seeing here it looks like.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Retail stores online retailers specifically will still require at least
twenty one years old. There might be instances in hospitality
settings where eighteen's can you can buy it?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
But no, pretty much is twenty one? Still?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, you sweet swig beer. You drag cigarettes and
queen no you you take a pole, you know you
take a take a take a drag off the beer. Mandy,
maybe six, says this texter. We were able to try
coffee too. That's some gen X truth right there.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Two coffee is in the same stratgy.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
No no, no, no, no no, like I bet coffee
is a grown up thing. Kids don't drink coffee. This
person gen X beer sip went big enough to fetch,
so maybe two, maybe three, and then we got five
on this one. Yep, eight ish graams God bless Grandpa. Yes,
when I was five or six, I would get a
sip of beer. That's from Jeff Absolutely, Mandy, beer sip

(26:51):
is true millennial here five, six, seven? Oh so you're
you must be an older millennial, Hi, Mandy, Yes, to
this day, the sip is always the best, Mandy. My
dad hated sharing his beer. Consequently, I would take a
sip each time I grabbed him when I was five
or six as well. Yeah, everybody's dad did it. I'm
telling you this was normal. You think gen X is

(27:12):
you know? Do you think we're like this for no reason? Anthony?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Ye, so much makes sense now, yeah, so much?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I had to roll in fresh beer coosies out of
horse racing forms. Wait a minute, I got to read
the rest of that and it just updated. Let me
change my my updates me here because that was funny,
and I need to finish it because I know people
like this. Mandy. I was around seven, got my dad
a cors Beer when you needed an opener. Beer tasted

(27:41):
better than it did now, jen X. Grandparents gave us
pony sized beer with meals as elementary school age. Wait,
I gotta find the one that came in here. Dang it,
it would to there's too many people agreeing with me.
It's all happening too fast.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
There is a button to turn up a red I
just did.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I just gotta yeah. I had to roll in fresh
beer couzzies out of horse racing forms when the old
one got too soggy. Ha ha, God, I'm glad I'm
not alone. And yes, Texter Old Milwaukee. Back in nineteen
seventy six, when I was five, I was allowed to
sip the phone, same exactly right old Milwaukee out of

(28:22):
the can or my dad went through a phase where
he was drinking like Nicky's Big Mouth, which is essentially
malt liquor. Oh yeah, God, the seventies were wild. They
were wild. Let's take a quick time out. We'll be
back after this. I'm getting so many text messages sharing
those same experiences that I had that I know. You

(28:43):
are my people. You are my people, Mandy jen X
are first beer SIPs from Dad's Olympia or Cascade beer can,
probably five or six years old. Went on a camping
trip with a friend and his father when I was
seven years old. His dad let us each go into
the cooler and grab pony size beer cans. My friend
probably had previous experience and finished his beer with no effects. However,

(29:04):
I couldn't even finish my pony beer and ended up
staggering around the campfire drunk off my seven year old
you know what, wanting to go to bed, ended up
puking in my sleeping bag. So my father put me
in his sleeping bag and he stayed up all night
tending the fire and drinking beer. When my dad found out,
he never let me play with that friend. Again, there's
always one, right, There's always the one kid that doesn't

(29:26):
bring out the best in you.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
These are the same people with thousands of unready emails.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I just say, you know, when you start drinking beer
at five, you know, five h five, things like two
hundred thousand emails in your email boxes unfaze you anymore,
a rod it just doesn't even bother you, not even
a little bit, not even a little bit. Now, a
couple things that I have on the blog today that
we did not talk about. One of them is, uh,

(29:51):
you know it never. It shouldn't surprise me, It should
not surprise me. And yet here I am surprised again.
I'm surprised because there's a video on the blog of
a professor at an Indiana is an Indiana university? Hang on,
there we go the University of Kansas. I apologize, Indiana,
you did not hire this man. There's a professor at

(30:12):
the University of Kansas who stands up in front of
his class and says that men who don't vote for
Kamala Harris should be lined up and shot. And then
because he's like, oh yeah, I shouldn't have said that,
erased the tape. I don't want the dean know. And
then I said that, And it's not like I was
the least bit surprised that this is happening. But how

(30:33):
can the administration at these schools continue to see this
stuff and continue to allow it to happen. Because it's
quite one thing to teach students in a college environment,
and I was very lucky that I had, for the
most part, really really good professors in college that were

(30:53):
very much sort of doing their job, whatever their topic was,
they stayed in their lane. Now I don't know if
this is a political science class or a math class
or whatever. I have no idea what this guy's deal is.
But the reality is that telling kids that if they
don't vote for the preferred candidate, they should be well
just boys, Actually they should be lined up and shot.

(31:16):
That's not okay. It's not acceptable. And we're at a
point now where everything is being recorded and yet it's
still happening. That's the part they don't get. These college
professors have to know, because you know, this isn't the
first thing this guy said. You know what, Well, I
take that back. Maybe they were just recording it because
they were too lazy to take notes and they just

(31:37):
set their phone up to records so they could just
go back and watch it later. I don't know, but
this is the kind when I say universities need an
ideological purge. I mean this not that we should go
in and fire any professor who disagrees with me. That's
not what I'm saying. That's not right, that's discriminatory. What
I'm saying is we should make it so it's not

(31:58):
okay for them to openly politic or openly attack students
for their belief system, their religion, whatever it is, because
that's what's happening on college campuses right now. Not everywhere,
of course, And of course they're off. You know, they're
fantastic college professors now that stay on task and just
teach their coursework. But stuff like this it should be surprising,

(32:21):
it absolutely should be.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Now.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Update on this particular professor is that he has been
placed on administrative leave pending further investigation, and the University
of Kansas released this statement. They say the university is
aware of a classroom video in which an instructor made
an inappropriate reference to violence. The instructor is being placed

(32:45):
on administrative leave pending further investigation. The instructor offers this
his sincerest apologies and deeply regrets the situation. His intent
was to emphasize his advocacy for women's rights inequality and
recognizes he did a very poor job of doing so.
The university has established process for situations like this and

(33:07):
will follow that process. And this is wholly unsatisfying because
that statement doesn't mention that it was political violence. That's
the thing. As long as political violence is hidden as
just normal violence, it doesn't get enough attention. Because right now,
the political violence over the last year has come from

(33:30):
the left. On January sixth, it came from the right,
but pretty much since then it has come from the left,
and they have to fix it. And they absolutely this
is not okay in a classroom. And like I said,
should this guy be fired, The University of Kansas is
gonna have to decide whether or not they want to
have him as a professor in their university. That's entirely there.

(33:52):
But then I can decide as a parent whether or
not I send my child and my money to the
University of Kansas. It works all the way around out
when we get back. If you have not gone to
the blog today and looked at the trailer for the
new documentary from The Daily Caller called Selling Sex. You
really need to because I've got Claire Carson, the woman
behind it on right after this.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
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Speaker 3 (34:36):
To stay the nicety through Frey Andy Connell keeping sad
bab Welcome, Local, Welcome from the Great American Beer Festival.
I am at the convention Center. We will have a
few more interviews that I did. If you've been to
the Beer Festival before, you haven't been to the Beer

(34:57):
Festival this year, And I say that because they we've
did a pretty good revamp of the way the entire
thing is set up. A little bit later in this
half hour, I'm going to talk to and open chain
of the Beer Festival. We're going to talk about the
new stuff you can expect this year. But right now
I want to bring on the Daily Callers Claire Carson,
a young reporter and now filmmaker who has an excellent

(35:19):
documentary out now on Daily Callers channel called Selling Sex
and I watched it this morning and Claire, first of all,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
Thank you so much, thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Well, you know, first of all, you're young. I'm just
going to say that because I'm not. I'm firmly in
the gen X camp and you appear to be in
You're like your mid twenties. Is that is that close?

Speaker 9 (35:42):
I'm I'm twenty two. I graduated school this May.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I was trying to make you seem older, to give
you a little more gravitas, but I don't think you
need it, because this documentary is fantastic. What made you?
What made you want to do a documentary about the
world of selling sex that's an only fan in pornography
and the various ways that otherwise respectable, normal people are
making money selling their bodies. What took you to this?

Speaker 9 (36:09):
Yeah, So, like I said, I'm young. The whole team
that worked on it was young. Everyone's in their mid twenties.
And this is a problem that all of us really
kind of grew up with. I mean I had to
have assemblies about pornography in school as early as middle school.
I know, the other members of the team did as well.
We've had friends tell us about their problems with it, brothers, cousins,

(36:34):
so it's something that's weighed on all of our hearts separately.
And so we were talking about big issues of the day,
all thought that that was something, you know, worth talking about,
and our higher ups agreed. Different generation, you know, people
who had looked up Cindy Crawford on dial ups, but
they thought it was a problem nonetheless, And yeah, it

(36:54):
all came together kind of like that.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
You did a great job sort of laying out the
the viewpoint of some of the women that have turned
to OnlyFans and are doing graphic comment or content. But
one of the things you just told me the answer
to my question my next question by telling me how
old everybody on the team was one thing that I
think got left behind. And I'd like to know if

(37:17):
this was on purpose or if it just didn't get asked.
Some of these content creators have children. As a matter
of fact, you interviewed a woman whose kids were thrown
out of school because her truck was wrapped with her
OnlyFans page. Did you ever ask aren't you worried about
how this affects your kids?

Speaker 9 (37:35):
So we asked all through. The creators that we interviewed
were mothers. We had the chance to meet one of
their children. Actually, they you know, kind of had mixed
reviews on how it affected their children. Largely, it seemed
as though their kids liked being homeschooled more. And yes,

(37:59):
maybe they were dead of school because of the only
fans sing, but now they're happy being homeschooled. There was
definitely a lot of I don't want to come out
and say excuses, just because they were generous enough to
interview with us, and we're really great on that front,
but I don't know what to call the others and excuses.

(38:20):
I don't think any of them would have openly said no.
I don't think our sons and daughters are enjoying the
fact that their friends know that we make this content.
I know that, you know, there would have been ruthless
bullying at my school if someone's parents we're doing something
like this. It was something that we asked and we
kind of got answers that you would expect, Okay.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
So that's maybe why it didn't make it prominently because
I honestly, as a mom, that was the first thing
I always think of when I see this stuff. And
you also did a really good job of sort of
showing young women who say, yeah, I would consider doing
only fans and it's empowering for women, and then on
the flip side, asking young men how they feel about
those women as potential partners. Did that surprise you at all?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
No, Actually, it.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
Was really really interesting. Something that we didn't include from
those earlier Nan on the Street interviews was that we
initially asked each of those men, you know, do you
think that this is feasible? Do you think that having
an only fans page is a good way for women
to make money? And they all said, yeah, it's empowering
and you know, they're making that money and that's great.

(39:29):
And then what we didn't include was us asking, Okay,
would you date them? And the answer was kind of
emphatically no. So it's weird that there's this dichotomy in
everyone's mind that this is something that is simultaneously great
for women and something that's not to be respected. And
I don't think that's I don't think those two beliefs

(39:49):
are put to scrutiny right next to each other enough.
And we really wanted to capture that.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I'd like to ask you because I have very strong
opinions about this, and it's something that I try to impart,
especially to young women, that they're not even ready for
the negative ramifications long term. And that's the part that
I think. You know, in twenty years, are we going
to see a slew of people with a ton of
regret for doing this kind of content that then will

(40:16):
follow them on the internet Because the internet's forever. You
can't get it, you know, once it's out there, it
kind of has a life of its own. So I'm
going to be interested to see what happens in a
couple of decades when people leave these sort of sexually
charged areas of content creation to try and maybe create
a more normal life. When you talk to the gentleman
that you talked to in this about the porn addiction

(40:39):
and what it did to them, I mean, obviously you
probably know people who have those same issues, and yeah,
I do. How much do you think that is having
an impact on the fact that young people are not dating,
they're not having sex, they're not in relationships. Do you
think all of this is connected.

Speaker 9 (41:01):
I think that's having a huge, huge, huge effect on
young people dating and having relationships with one another, a
larger effect than I think many people realize. At this
point in time, we're seeing a lot of literature come
out from you know, people that are maybe my parents' age,
who have been recommended, you know, watching pornography by some

(41:23):
more liberal sex therapists and how that deteriorated parts of
their marriage. But we're just starting to get a lot
of literature, either as wise or actually written down. We're
to young people saying, you know, pornography affected me at
a really young age. I never had a marriage for
it to deteriorate because it made it very hard to

(41:44):
talk to women in the first place. We're on the
advent of seeing those long term social consequences and people
that are much much younger than we've seen before.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Now, Claire, you as twenty two year old, you had
you said you had pornography like you know, assemblies at
school where we talked, you talked about it. What did
you learn anything doing this documentary that you feel would
be helpful to really drive that point home to young people,
especially boys. Now, I know that girls are also exposed
to pornography and can be addicted to pornography as well,

(42:20):
but primarily we are talking about boys here, did you
learn anything could be useful for parents trying to have
that conversation with their kids.

Speaker 9 (42:29):
I think some of the things that spoke to me
is the most were some of those parts that focused
on really in depth fetishes, those parts for those an
audience that haven't seen the doc where an ONMI fan's
mom told us that she was once offered thirty thousand
dollars to send.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
One of her teeth in an envelope to some man.

Speaker 9 (42:52):
And I think presenting those numbers to people and saying,
you know, this is equivalent to maybe a year at
college and you had paid up for a stranger's too,
someone that you'll never actually speak to, I think those
visuals are by far the most shocking thing and something
that we were really proud to put out there to

(43:14):
kind of dissuade interest from aathing like that. It feels
kind of ridiculous to say, but it's a huge problem.
And all three of the women that we talked to
mentioned the crazy lengths that these people will go to
just to get a glimpse of them or just to
touch part of them. It's something I wouldn't wish upon anyone.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I have a textor who said, did you interview strippers
as well? And I can't remember if one of the
women had been a stripper or if you just or
somebody just referenced a stripper that then became a porn star.

Speaker 9 (43:51):
She had been she did topless haircuts where she had
turned to OnlyFans. Yeah, so we didn't get any strippers
for this project. We had talked about it, had reached
out to a few, but thought that it was a
different enough industry where it would warrant. It's completely owned docs,
not trying to shoehorn it into something that it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And somebody just texted this selling sex has been around
since the beginning of humans. Two consenting adults can do that.
It's called freedom. But we're not necessarily talking about just
adults here, are we.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
No.

Speaker 9 (44:22):
I mean, the sad thing now is that two consenting
adults have been able to do anything since the beginning
of time. But what hasn't existed since the beginning of
time is cell phones in children's pockets with very limited protections.
Kids are being exposed much much younger than if the

(44:43):
average age of exposure is now twelve been there are
many more children looking at it under that age and
that's that it goes far past the realm of two
consenting adults.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Clear the other statistic that you had in this in
addition to children are being exposed at the age of twelve,
that you have people saying, look, you know, Playboy magazine
has been around for years. Boys have been finding their
moms to their dad's Playboy magazine and looking at it.
The difference here is that this is not just vanilla
men and women you know in the missionary position. Some

(45:16):
of this stuff is violent, some of this stuff is
really dark. Some of it is honestly teaching kids that
sex does not require consent and that women love to
be abused and mishandled, and so it's not the same.
And that's the thing I really think you did a
good job of sort of delineating in this film.

Speaker 9 (45:36):
Yeah, thank you. That was something that I think all
of us were kind of surprised to hear. You know,
we've each of us that had friends who maybe has
said that they were into something a little bit less vanilla,
or we've had experiences with men where we're like, oh,
that didn't seem really all that safe. But looking at
the statistics and seeing how much violent and abuse is

(46:01):
being put on people who assume that they're consenting and
this stuff is normal, and being hit during you know,
romantic interludes with their partner is something completely fine because
your boyfriend saw it online. It's crazy and it's it's
only getting worse.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Claire Carson is my guest from The Daily Caller who
her new documentary Selling Sex is outstanding, about forty minutes
long roughly, and you can get it. I put a
link on my blog so people can go to The
Daily Caller's website and see it. You have to be
a member, but you can get a membership for a month.
I highly recommend the Daily Caller anyway, but you can
get a membership for a month for a dollar and

(46:41):
you can watch Claire's film and there are other documentaries
that they have online. Really outstanding work at the Daily
Caller right now, Claire, you guys must feel like you know,
you're building a lot of momentum. So are you already
working on your next project?

Speaker 9 (46:54):
We are, Yeah, we're looking into I don't want to
give too much away, but something at the Olympics really
inspired the team and we're looking into some new avenues
with gender studies and young women.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
So all right, well, I'll have you back on when
you finish that project. This one's really really good, well done.
I really think you knocked it out of the park.
Great job, Claire. I appreciate you coming on today.

Speaker 9 (47:21):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
All Right, that's Claire Carson with the Daily Caller. And
again I put a link on the blog today where
you can find more information. I also put the trailer
to the film on the blog. Is just very, very
well done. And you know, I realized that there are
probably a lot of people in this listening audience that
look at porn because it's the largest single industry in
the world I think. I mean, I'm not exaggerating when

(47:44):
I say when you look at the top ten websites
on a normal basis in the rankings, like a majority
of them are always porn sites. Okay, so I know
it's ubiquitous, but we have to understand that for some
people it becomes a huge problem, like a huge problem,
and especially for young kids, both boys and girls, it

(48:05):
sets them up with these expectations of what sexual contact
should be that are not rooted in reality, that are
not rooted in consent. You know, if you want to
engage in some spicy business in the bedroom with your partner,
and you guys both love that. I am all for
you doing that, but it's got to be consensual. And
what's happening now is that guys are learning what they

(48:27):
think are great moves and porn that a lot of
women are like, what are you doing. So if you
have sons, if you have daughters, you've got to have
these conversations with them, because this is It's everywhere, you, guys,
it is everywhere, and it starts so young, and these
kids are exposed to things they should not be exposed to,

(48:49):
and we've got to do better. We've got to do better.
I mean, I honestly think this is a huge part
of why gen Z is not gen Z is not dating.
They're not in relationship, so they're not having sex. You know,
with all due respect, remember when you were young, guys,
eighteen nineteen, for many of you, your entire JOI de

(49:10):
vive was just getting laid right. That's not happening anymore,
and pornography is a big part of it. And I
think we're gonna be in a really bad way. You
think our population is falling now when sex robots arrive
and between porn and sex robots, nobody's gonna be reproducing
because nobody's gonna be having an actual relationship with another
human being. It's scary to me. I mean it's scary.

(49:30):
It's really unnerving. That film is great again, like forty
minutes long. So there you go, Mandy. I found my
sister in law's Only Fans because of an account she
made for it on Instagram on my people, you may
know suggestions I feel bad for my brother. I gotta
tell you, text her your brother may be down with it.

(49:52):
That was the other thing I found surprising about this documentary.
The one of the women that they talked to, she
was like, yeah, my husband and I just like we
had two in each Dr Sun nine and I just
made an account and it was just and then we
had eight thousand dollars and it's like what I mean, respectfully,
most husbands are not down with that. I'm sure there
are husbands who don't mind. But the long term ramifications

(50:13):
of this, the kids thing like glossing over her. One
woman's kids got kicked out of school because not only
does she have an OnlyFans page, she has her entire
truck wrapped to announce her OnlyFans page and someone at
the school complain. Now, do I think it's right they
kicked her out? No, But you know, if you're gonna
kind of make a spectacle. The good news is is

(50:34):
that now everyone knows there it isn't judgment free. Sex
work is still being judged very harshly if women are
the ones doing it. I don't know if men doing
sex work are judge sarshally. I don't know, but I
know that women are. And I have talked to more
than one women who uh was in pornography at one
point who had deep, deep regret later in life. I've

(50:56):
also talked to some important stars who love their entire career.
So you never know. But I don't think you get
to know until it's too late, right, I mean that's
the way I view it. It's kind of like being
a parent. You don't get to know what being a
parent is like until until you're a parent, when it's
too late. Mandy, I'm gen X and found a penthouse
when I was about ten. It led to a lifelong

(51:17):
addiction that has kept me from approaching women. That makes
me very sad because you're my age, maybe a little older,
maybe a little younger. And I would think that a
great therapist who specializes in this kind of stuff, and yes,
indeedy their therapist who specialize in this kind of stuff
can hopefully help you. So yeah to the person who
important is where I learned my best moves. Uh, you know, eh,

(51:40):
maybe we're gonna switch gears because I am ready to
talk to Anne oben Shane. She is the VP of
Marketing and Communications with the Brewers' Association. And she literally
just took a rite and turned so she'll be here
in just a second. But as a matter of fact,
we'll probably get her on the other side of the
break now. Also on the blog today and something I'm

(52:01):
gonna get into a little bit later. Oh, you can
sit right here. She's bringing her own chair. That's what
she does. That's what you do when you're in charge
of marketing and you don't see a chair, You're gonna
bring your own chair. An't we got one for you here?
But yeah, go ahead and get that. So she's got
the red headsets on. Anne Obenshane is with the Brewers' Association.

(52:21):
Of course, they started this whole thing forty two years ago.
And is that how many years ago. It was it
was forty two years ago.

Speaker 7 (52:29):
Exactly forty two years ago. In nineteen eighty two, back
in Boulder, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
I got an email our text message for one of
my listeners that said I was at the first beer
festival in a hotel room in Boulder back in nineteen
eighty two.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
Yes, and for those locals it was the Millennium Harvest House.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Nice. Now, how long have you been with the Beer
Associate or the Brewers Association.

Speaker 7 (52:50):
I have been with the Brewers Association since twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Oh wow, so you've been doing this a while. So
you're like an old hat at the beer festival, and
I'm asking you that because so much has changed. Tell
people what is different this year than in prior year.

Speaker 7 (53:03):
So, if you have been to the Beer Festival in
the last couple of years, this year is very different.
In the past years, it's been row up to row
after row of breweries, either arranged by regional area of
the country or by alphabetal order. This time we have
arranged the areas into experience areas, so we have six

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experienced areas. One is a Halloween theme, So if you
want to pregame Halloween scare actors, experiential you know, thriller
flash mobs, things like that, and the breweries there are
bringing special brews, they are dressing up in that.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
They've got some quite spooky setups over there. I was
earlier over there earlier today, and some of those brewers
really got the memo on making their displays quite impressive exactly.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
And then across from that is an area called blast Off,
which is more of a space themed area, and that
has our friends from Europe are bringing beer, international beer
as well.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
We have cider.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
We have all kinds of different beverages over there and
kind of a space theme. Then over here we have
the sports area, which you know, sports and beer, peanut
butter and jelly. Hello so and I'm talking to the
sports station. But they can watch sports or play sports.
We've got some football, We've got you can write a
mechanical bull do all these things. And then next to

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that tonight and Friday only, we have the Lucha Libret
Mexican wrestlers.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Oh get out. I secretly I'm a huge fan of
libre wrestling. I know that sounds ridiculous because of me,
but big fan have my own mask. I will not
be participating tonight though.

Speaker 7 (54:45):
Mandy, Well, next year you'll have exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Wrest I'll work on my persona for the next year
and then come out and wrestle for you. And then
over here we've.

Speaker 7 (54:53):
Got We've got prost which if you didn't make it
to Munich for October Fest, is a it's a Bavarian
beer garden themes so people of OOPA bands nice siginholding contest.
The world's Strongest Man will be here on Saturday, so
you can see him. We also have our traditional meet
the Brewer, which is a very popular area where brewery

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reps are there to talk to our beer fans about
their products. And I'm forgetting one. I'm forgetting one.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Oh my gosh, Chill, chill, thank you.

Speaker 7 (55:22):
Yes, you're looking right at it.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I watched right over, I watched all around earlier. Today.

Speaker 7 (55:26):
Chill is our backyard, so hang out, listen to live music,
play games, and relax. And there's also beer there.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
So we don't just have beer this obviously we have
tons and tons of beer, but we also have craft cocktails,
ready to drink cocktails, We have cider, hard seltzers. This
is a big branch out for you guys.

Speaker 7 (55:43):
This is big. Last year we added cider, and then
this year we added all of the things you just mentioned.
Super excited about that because you know Gen Z, millennials,
even people you know older gen X, everybody, we're all
trying different things. And we also have non alcohol beverages,
gluten free beverages, so there's something here for everybody.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
You can go to Great American Beer Festival the Great
American Beer Fest dot com and buy your tickets. I've
got a link on the blog today as well. Our
tickets available for both sessions Friday, so tonight Thursday, that's
the first session.

Speaker 7 (56:15):
Tonight is the first session, starts at five thirty, goes
to nine thirty. We also have Friday tickets available for
Friday night and for Saturday afternoon, which is from twelve
thirty to four thirty.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
All right, and I really appreciate you stopping by, and
I'm looking forward to walking around when I get done here,
so I could actually, you know, sample some of the product.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
All right, and maybe you can jump in the wrestling line.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Not I couldn't. I couldn't do it. I have a
knee injury. No, I'm just kidding. I didn't bring my
mask and I've been chane. Thank you so much. All Right,
we'll be right back. All the brewers are scurrying about
right now, getting ready to serve beer and ready to
drink cocktails and hard siltzer and cider and non alcoholic
brews and non alcoholic drinks and hard kombucha. To everyone

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who's coming this weekend. If you haven't got your tickets yet,
go to the Great America Beerfest dot com because it's
different this year. You may have just heard and talking
about that they've divided it into areas and the spooky Area.
I found the person that absolutely followed the memo and
created this entire scary, bloody, gory kind of thing to
go along with his beer, and had a chance to
ask him a few questions. Okay, I am in the

(57:21):
freight section of the beer fest, as it's divided into
these very specific regions, and one man who understood the
assignment is with Lone Man Mountain Brewing Company. They have
a very creepy sort of bloodstained display and well done, sir.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
And who are you.

Speaker 10 (57:40):
I'm Jason Murdoch. I am the lone man of Lone
Man Mountain.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Brewing, So you're it that truth in advertising.

Speaker 11 (57:46):
Yes, there's truth in advertising.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
It's actually named after the road it's on.

Speaker 10 (57:49):
There's a winery there that wanted to start beer, and
I'm the brewery.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Very nice. Now what do you guys bring in from Driftwood, Texas.
We've brought two of our award winners.

Speaker 10 (57:59):
Our LMM belt which is Loneman Mountain Belgian Amber, which
we got up bronze for last year at the GABF
and our Patters Beer Belgian Style single we got a
gold medal in the Texas Guild for. And then for
you know the fun stuff, we brought a juicy ipa and.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
A strawberry blonde for a lone man. You seem to
be doing pretty well with the awards.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Well, hopefully it continues.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
How did you get into brewing in the first place?
How did you get to be the lone.

Speaker 10 (58:27):
Man home brewer for many many years? Actually, I was
a homebrewer longer than my twenty year IT career, and
I got real lucky. My wife's career was also doing
well and she let me quit to brew beer.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
First of all, you married well. The second of all, congratulations,
and I hope you do well this year. I'll tell
people to look for your very spooky setup. You really
did get the assignment.

Speaker 10 (58:48):
Thank you very much, and you have a wonderful day.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
All right, you guys. That is one of the beers
that is in this Spuky the Fright section. This time,
speaking of frightening, I'd love to talk about something. This
is one of my favorite topics to discuss. And it
came up because you may have seen the news story
that involved gays against groomers and a flag that they

(59:12):
displayed on X and a letter from allegedly from the
governor that said, you know, thanks for all you do
for children, blah blah blah whatever, and they put it
on Twitter and said, hey, we're super happy about the
governor recognizing our hard work. Well, here's the thing about
those flags and those certificates. Anybody can pay twenty nine
dollars and get one. That is not an uncommon thing.

(59:35):
I mean, it's really it's like one of those things
that you would give as a gift to someone. You know,
you can say, hey for your the big day, like
the governor recognized your birthday or whatever, And the state
has had no vetting process for that at all. And
I think that gays Against Groomers made a mistake by
putting it on X and kind of taunting the governor

(59:56):
with it, because the governor has not been supportive of
their efforts to protect children from a mutilation, from medical
mutilation in the name of trans affirming rights. That is
what Gays against Groomers is all about. Though they're about
protecting children their language, it can sometimes be tough that
they are fighting to allow children to have a childhood

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and they're fighting to save gay boys and girls who
are being told that just you know, all you have
to do is change gender and you're gonna be fine,
when in reality they're just gay kids. I love the
work that Gays Against Groomers is doing, but I think
this was a misstep, and the misstep has now come
back to bite them in the butt, and the bite
is coming in the form of news stories about how

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the governor's office and the state has now suspended the
program after one of these flags was given to a
quote hate group. Where do they get that designation from
an organization called the Southern Poverty Law Center. You may
have heard about the hate map with the Southern Poverty
Law Center. It's been around for years. But you may not.
I've heard the dirty little secrets about the Southern Poverty

(01:01:03):
Law Center and its founder, Morris D's. So pull up
a chair and let me just roll out some education
on this, because this is one of my favorite things
to talk about. The Southern Poverty Law Centers started back
in the seventies with an extremely noble mission, a mission
to help people in poverty that could not afford good
legal care. And a lot of times they took on

(01:01:25):
cases where people had been accused of murder or they
were facing the death penalty and the Southern Poverty Law
Center stepped in and provided them a good defense. They
also helped three gentlemen that were on death row get
off of death row after they had been wrongly convicted.
Morris D's is not only an attorney, he is a

(01:01:45):
master fundraiser, and he began raising funds off of that case.
It was the case of the I think the Tosro three.
I might have to sorrow in my mind because the
Tosorro culturalst Center, but I think it was the Tosorro three.
So they fundraised off that for years. When the money
started to dry up a little bit from that, Morris

(01:02:06):
D's discovered that he could attack the clan, the kkk Okay.
This is again a noble cause. Nobody here is saying
that they think the clan doesn't deserve to be attacked.
But Morris D's discovered that he could go, and especially
in his first big case, he won a judgment against
the klan when a woman he represented, a mom whose

(01:02:27):
son had been lynched. She won, I mean, like not
that much money in today's terms, but maybe like two
hundred or three hundred thousand dollars, I honestly don't remember.
So she won two hundred thousand dollars, which she then
turned around and donated to the Southern Property Law Center.
And then Morris D's went out and decided he was

(01:02:47):
going to I think make a movie about it or something,
and sold the rights and took all the money. So
the mom ended up with nothing, and the Southern Property
Law Center and Morris D's ended up with the mother load.
And they soon discovered that they could sue all of
these KKKA organizations out of business. They got all these
judgments that these organizations could not pay. But then Morris

(01:03:08):
D's could turn around and fundraise off of those victories.
He made a fortune for the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Currently their doowman is over four hundred million dollars. They
spend far more on fundraising at this point than they
spend on actual stuff that they do. And many years ago,
Morris D's decided that he was going to create the

(01:03:29):
hate group list, and there wasn't enough KKKA chapters left,
so he started putting any right leaning organization on his
hate map. This has been investigated, it has been documented,
and it's been documented by sources that are not right leaning.
And I think that's important because I have a really
good interview from the Heritage Foundation, which is a very

(01:03:49):
right leaning organization. But I also have a news article
linked from NPR. Nobody's ever going to accuse them of
being a right leaning organization. I also have a huge
article that I linked to The New Yorker, another completely
not right wing organization. Listen to this this little snippet
from that article. So lots of times SPLC would sue

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the Klan, and the Klan didn't have much money to
its name, didn't have much popularity, nobody wanted to represent
them in court. So the lawyer said it was like
shooting fish in a barrel to defeat the Klan. I
don't want to go this is, by the way, written
by a former employee. I don't want to go too
far on that because I think it was good for
society in a lot of ways that many clan groups
were sued into bankruptcy. I think what the SPLC was

(01:04:34):
doing there was good for society, But it was also
the kind of thing that this is a different organization
from when it was founded, and I think we need
to acknowledge that, and we need to notice that there
were staff at the SPLC who said even then that
Morris D's was changing the nature of this organization from
representing poor people to a fundraising juggernaut that was focused

(01:04:56):
on combating hate, and at that time it was real hate.
But he eventually ran out of grand dragons to conquer
and started going more and more mainstream with the targets
of the hate that D's and his organization were exposing,
and eventually it started getting to mainstream conservative groups, Christian
groups like the Family Research Counl Council, Alliance Defending Freedom,

(01:05:17):
Center for Immigration Studies. So we really have three organizations
in one. There's the initial noble SPLC, there's the we're
going after the Klan SPLC, which I see as a
transition from the first to the third. And then there's
the third, the version we have right now, and that
is a fundraising machine doing the bidding of the Democratic Party.

(01:05:38):
So when anyone in the media tells you that any
organization is a hate organization because of the Southern Poverty
Law Center, you better do your due diligence and find
out the truth before you accept their word for anything,
because all they're doing is raising money and beating up
people on the right that they disagree with. All of
this stuff is on the blog today, including links, so

(01:05:59):
if anyone at I don't know, nine news would like
information about who they're parenting, they can find it right
there on the blog. We will be back after this.
You can still get your tickets at Great American Beer
Fest dot com and they have sessions tonight, Friday, Saturday,
and it's set up totally different than it has been

(01:06:20):
in the past, and I think I feel like crowd
management is going to be better this year. Plus it's
not sold out, you guys take that into consideration as well.
Mike Roseen knocked it out of the park with his
recent column in The Denver Gazette. We talked about this
a little bit the other day about who pays their
fair share? Right this? You know, if Kamalas says one

(01:06:41):
more time, I'm just gonna get the billionaires and the
millionaires to pay their fair share, no one asks, like,
what's that percentage? And Mike Roseen he brought the goods.
He's got a great column in the Denver Gazette, including
a graph, Yes, indeedy a graph. Ladies and gentlemen. I
don't know about you, but you give me a good visual,
and I'm down, mark me down. He broke down who's

(01:07:03):
actually paying their fair share? And he's got a lot
of the numbers that we talked about the other day,
same numbers actually, because the Tax Foundation has only done
up to twenty twenty one with their breakdown. And if
you have anyone in your life a little young skull
full of mush that says we just need rich people
to pay their fair share, then you need to send

(01:07:24):
them this column because he does a great job, as
only Mike does, in explaining exactly what that fair share
looks like. You know, who's not paying their fair share?
The bottom fifty percent of earners. That's just facts. That
is the absolute facts. The bottom fifty percent of earners

(01:07:44):
make ten point four percent of all the income. Now
you're thinking to yourself, Manny, that number is really low.
How are they expected? But they only pay two point
three percent of all the income taxes. And I would
bet if you broke that down to the bottom twenty percent,
those people are not paying anything. As a matter of fact,
they are getting a net benefit from the income tax

(01:08:05):
system because of the earned income tax credit and things
of that nature. So it's a great column. And if
you've ever wanted an easy way to explain to someone
who is laboring under the illusion that rich people don't
pay enough in income taxes, then you can share that
with them and help them understand exactly how wrong they are,
and they are wrong. That's all there is to it. Now,

(01:08:28):
coming up in the next hour, we've got Danielle Jorinsky
coming in at two or not coming in, but she's
coming on the show with us at twoint thirty because
she is going to be I'm assuming at the Trump
rally tomorrow. Got a text message earlier in the show
from someone that has tickets and they said they already
got their email, and I don't know if this is accurate.
So if you already got tickets. The only reason I'm
saying this, if you've got tickets, already secured your tickets,

(01:08:51):
check your email because this person says they got their
instructions and they want everybody at the gay Lord Rockies
by ten am and the parking lot will open up
at six. So yeah, that's what's happening. If you are
headed out to that. Check your email though, because again
I don't know that was just a text message. I

(01:09:11):
have not verified that, but there should be an email
in your email box if you actually got those tickets
to see Donald Trump tomorrow also coming up next. I
want you to bear with me. Over the last week
or so, I've been doing a deep dive on Norway,
and I know what you're I know. I'm not trying
to sell you a trip. Okay, I'm really not. But

(01:09:32):
Norway did something in twenty nineteen that we need to
pay attention to because it's pretty much exactly what Kamala
Harris is proposing. She has proposed both to create a
wealth text, which would just text the overall wealth of
the richest individuals in the country. She's also suggesting a

(01:09:53):
tax on unrealized capital gains. Now, let me explain that
to you. If you have a four and you are
putting in your four to one K every single year,
if Kamala's plan went through for everyone, and right now
she says it's just for the super rich, but I'll
get to that in the next segment, you would, at
the end of every year have to pay capital gains

(01:10:14):
taxes on the money that you earned in your four
to one K, even if it's still sitting in your
four oh one K. That is what an a tax
on unrealized gains looks like. You would have to pay
a tax, perhaps on the gains in your home. If
stan local governments decided to do an unrealized capital gains
tax as well, I don't know if it would apply

(01:10:34):
to your home now. I don't know, but Norway already
did this, and they did it with completely predictable results.
I'll tell you what those results are when we get back.
Keep it ready here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock,
accident and injury lawyers from the Great American Beer Festival.
Tickets at Great American Beer Festival dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
It's Mandy Connell Condo on KLA ninety more Lunch sat
the Nice through Free Ben Conn Sadday.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show
Live from the Great American Beer Festival opens tonight. They've
got sessions Friday and Saturday. And if you've been to
the beer festival before, you have not been to this
beer festival because they have changed up a whole bunch
of stuff. Last year they added cider. I just found
that out. I thought it was this year. I had
a chance to stop by and talk to one of
the siderreas a little bit earlier, and this is what

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that sounded like. So this year at the Great American
Beer Festival, there's some new entries to the pool, right,
it's not just about craft beer. And I decided to
stop by a cider maker, Lucas Sider out of Seattle,
to chat about what they're doing here and what they're
pouring at the Great American Beer Festival. And I'm talking
with Hi.

Speaker 11 (01:11:58):
My name is Andrew ross On, the sales director.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
So, Andrew, is this your first year?

Speaker 12 (01:12:02):
Obviously it is, yeah, Yeah, it's exciting that they are
bringing cider in this year.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
So tell me a little bit about Locus Cider. How
you guys got started.

Speaker 12 (01:12:10):
Yeah, so we started back in twenty fifteen. Our owner,
you know, started having issues drinking beer, so we wanted
to start making some cider is something different, and we
launched as just a small, small sidery in Woodenville, Washington.

Speaker 11 (01:12:22):
We've since expanded.

Speaker 12 (01:12:23):
We moved to our location down to gig Harbor now
and yeah, we just keep growing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Okay, what are you pouring this year?

Speaker 12 (01:12:29):
So this year we brought three different brands, so we
actually have three brands that we all produced out of
gig Harbor. Locus Cider, from the Smack Card Lemonade we
both created in house there, and we also just recently
partnered with Colorado Cider Company right here in Denver started
producing there.

Speaker 11 (01:12:44):
So we brought a little bit of everything. I have
five of our Locus.

Speaker 12 (01:12:47):
We've got our BlackBerry, our pub dry, our honey pear,
our vanilla bean, and then from Colorado Cider, we brought
the always popular Grasshopper, cherry Glider and the original Glider Sider.

Speaker 11 (01:12:59):
And then for our lemon we have our original lemonade
and a mango.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
So what's the biggest misconception about what it is that
you do when you come to a beer festival? How
do you bring beer people over to your side?

Speaker 12 (01:13:08):
Oh, I mean, it's just giving people an alternative, right,
you know, ciders tends to be healthier for you. Right,
it's going to be lower in collaries, and it's got
gluten free is always a big one too. And it's
just the conception is that cider is just completely different, right,
And it is different, but you're still getting the same
thing out of it, and you're just getting it in
a healthier way.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Sometimes, what kind of impression are you trying to leave
on people?

Speaker 11 (01:13:30):
That you know that anybody can drink cider.

Speaker 12 (01:13:32):
A lot of times, you know, people think that ciders
tend to go to a you know, a more female
demographic and stuff like that. And we just want to
make sure that you let people know the ciders for everybody. Right,
you enjoy it just like you do beer.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
You can stop by and see Locust Cider. They're kind
of right near the inside. What is this area called
blast Offs.

Speaker 12 (01:13:49):
Is the Beer and Beyond section. So we're one of
the sponsors. Right when you walk in the door, you
hang a.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Left, all right, Thank you so much. Enjoying the festival.

Speaker 11 (01:13:56):
Thank you very much, you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Too, all right, guys, is not just craft beer. They
have something for everyone, including non alcoholic beverages. So if
you are the designated driver, you're not a big beer person,
there's options for you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
I want to talk about this Norway story because I
think this is incredibly important. I want to make one
thing perfectly clear. In the examples that I was giving
before about capital gains taxes, I was talking about if
this was a tax on unrealized gains on everyone, because
much like the income tax, they are starting out by
lofting this just for the rich. But the income tax

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what happened there? You guys may not remember the income
tax started as a tax on the wealthy. Only how's
that working out for the rest of us at this point,
you know, just throwing that out there now, we don't
have to wonder what will happen if Kamala Harris is
successful in taxing unrealized capital gains, because Norway already did it.
The center left government in twenty twenty one hiked the

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wealth tax from point eighty five percent to one percent,
and to one point one percent for the very wealthiest.
They also raised the dividend tax. Now what does this mean.
It means that they're taxing wealth. But they're the only
country in Europe to tax unrealized capital gains. And guess
what the super rich owners of these companies are doing.

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If you guessed moving, you guess correct. A lot of
them have already picked up stakes and moved to Switzerland,
which has a much better tax climate and is honestly,
I would move to Switzerland if I could. Uh, And
it's just glorious. So yeah, listen to this. One of
the rich men they talked about said, if your salary
is one million dollars and you have a lot of

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wealth in your company, right, so you may have wealth
and you draw a modest salary and you have wealth
because you own a bunch of shares in a high
value company. This guy says, if your salary is one
million and you have to pay three million in wealth tax,
it's clear that that's untenable. To pay a wealth tax
that exceeds their yearly income, entrepreneurs need to sell their stock,

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which is then taxed at thirty seven point eighty four percent.
So why are you going to continue to pay this?
Because it doesn't just tax the wealth that you hold,
it forces you to spend it down in order to
pay those taxes. Between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three,
more than one hundred of Norway's wealthiest people went into exile,

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with a large majority moving to Switzerland. This has meant
that instead of bringing in an extra roughly two hundred
and sixty million kroners, which is what this wealth tax
was supposed to do, Norway has lost over six hundred
million kroners because these people just left. That's the dirty
secret of the incredibly wealthy people that Kamala Harris keeps

(01:16:47):
saying she's going to go after they have the ability
to relocate. And before you tell me they're not going
to leave the United States, oh hell yes they will.
You start telling them that they're going to have to
pay more than in their salary because they have a
cumula wealth, but they don't have a lot of cash flow.
You don't think they're going to just leave. They absolutely
can leave, and that's what's happening in Norway now. In Norway,

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they have a much stronger sense of civic responsibility to
the country than we have here in the United States.
And now that all of these super rich Norwegians have
moved to Switzerland. You know who's following them, Norwegian bankers.
They are opening up branches of Norwegian banks in Zurich
so they can continue with Norwegian speaking bankers, they can

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continue to serve their extremely high value customers. And Norway's
freaking out. They are absolutely freaking out, and it's not over.
Norway is currently trying to figure out how to try
and claw back money from people even after they leave
the country, instead of getting the message maybe this was

(01:17:55):
a bad choice, maybe this is going to hurt us
in the law run. They're still trying to figure out
a way to get people who have left their country
over high taxes to still reach out and get them somehow.
I mean, this is just this is exactly what will
happen this texture. So you're attacking the plan for what

(01:18:18):
might happen, nice one, Mandy. By that logic, you should
be terrified of Trump's plan to deport illegal immigrants. What
might happen in ternment camps for non whites. We've never
had that situation, so we don't have any history to
look back on. But we are seeing in the exact
same situation in Norway, exact same. We're already seeing what's

(01:18:40):
happening there. So wouldn't it be smart to simply say, look,
this other country did exactly what we're talking about, and
all of their incredibly wealthy people left. I mean, if
you don't believe that this will happen, think about how
many wealthy people have now left Silicon Valley to relocate
to Texas or Miami. Do you think they move there

(01:19:00):
because they love living in blinding heat all year long. No,
they moved there because there's tax advantages. You might think
that rich people are like Elon musk is like five
hundred billion dollars or whatever, three hundred and eighty six
billion or something like that. He can afford it. Well,
you know what, he earned that money. He probably doesn't
want to give it to people who didn't earn it,
just because they've decided he has enough. I know I would.

(01:19:24):
I mean, my dream someday is to be so rich
that I need to move to another country to avoid
the ridiculous taxation schemes in the United States of America.
I doubt I'll ever get there, but a girl can dream.
We'll be right back after this. I want to finish
up my conversation about Norway, because this is really important. Okay.
The Norway Business School estimates that wealthy Norwegians took with

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them a total fortune of fifty four billion dollars when
they left. What does that mean for Norway long term?
Because before they jacked up the wealth tax and tried
to start taxing unrealized capital gains, they brought in about
one point four to six billion on their wealth their
prior wealth tax in twenty nineteen. The exodus of the

(01:20:08):
ultra rich in Norway has resulted in a five hundred
and ninety four million dollar loss in revenue. And there
is a principle uh in economics called the Lucas critique,
and Lucas said that to predict certain policy outcomes, you

(01:20:28):
have to first work from the proposition that all action
in economics is individual behavior. And because we are individuals
making decisions on our own best interest, we are rational creatures,
and we are going to respond to policies that we
don't like in rational ways, like a wealth tax that
is causing us to have to spend our wealth to

(01:20:50):
pay the taxes before we've even realized the wealth. And
this is what happened in Norway. It will happen here.
And for all of those people who think the rich
people won't leave, look at the mass exodus of who
is leaving California right now, of who is leaving New
York City right now. It's the super rich. They picked
up and moved. They can do it again, and they will.

(01:21:12):
It's just it's crazy to think they won't. Now I've
got one last interview. If you've ever been the person
seeking plimy the elder, an ipa that is quite famous
before its rareness in some occasions, you definitely want to
hear this interview, go ahead and hit a grant. Now,
the various areas that we talked about earlier have all
have a kind of a theme, and now I am

(01:21:33):
in the what area? This is the beer garden?

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
I guess it's called the post area.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Which is more traditional German style, which you think of
when you think of beer.

Speaker 6 (01:21:42):
Yes, you think of something like an october Fest. You
think of German loggers, medicine, things like that. So yeah,
we're excited to be in the pros area this year.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Now, Natalie is with Russian River Brewing from Santa Rosa, California.
Tell me about your beers. Sure, so we are.

Speaker 6 (01:21:58):
We have two locations in Santa Rosa and Windsor, California,
and Sonoma County just north of San Francisco. We're very
hot forward brewery planning to the Elders. Our flagship beer
it's at Double Ipa. But we're also known for our
sour berelaged beers like Supplication, Consecration, Temptation, things like that.
And then we also make some amazing logers too. We

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have sts pills which we've brought here today, as well
as our velvet glohella.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
So I think we are well.

Speaker 6 (01:22:24):
Represented here in the German Beer Garden.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
You know, I know you guys have been here before.
How many years have you done the Great American Beer Festival.
This is our thirtieth. That's amazing. You guys should get
like a like a chip or a trophy or a
metal for just being here that long. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:22:39):
I was noticing I have a lot of gray hairs.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
So that will do. Natalie, thank you so much, Thanks
so much. I have a great day, all right, you guys.
It's happening all weekend at the Great American Beer Festival.
And I got a pair of tickets to give away,
right now, why don't we just do it easy, Grant?
Why don't we just do caller number five at three
oh three seven one three eighty five eighty five. That's
caller at three O three seven one three eighty five

(01:23:02):
eighty five. And I don't have this in front of me, Grant,
because my internet's still a little slow. Do you know
what day these tickets are for? Do you know that information?

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
I believe Saturday, but I think.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
So too, but I didn't want to say that. But
we'll find out. We'll let you know if you win,
go ahead and give us a call. And uh, I'm
gonna find out if the I don't know if daniel
Durinsky's going to make it or not, so we'll find out.
She is obviously busy because the Trump thing is happening tomorrow, Saturday.
It is Saturday, perfect, so somebody's gonna win those tickets

(01:23:34):
right now. Well, then if Danielle's not going to join us,
that is perfectly fine, because I have so much more
to talk about it. As a matter of fact, you
guys have been reading way too much about Norway right now,
and I'm going about that for a very long time.
But I have more news, more Islamic leadership is taking

(01:23:54):
the old dirt n app thanks to Israel and CBS
News has completely and utterly lost their minds. We'll get
into that next keep it right here on KOA. Were,
of course at the Great American Beer Festival and grant
who won our tickets.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
The winner of our tickets was Tim Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Excellent Tim, enjoy your time at Saturday session. Tickets are
still available. You can go to Great American Beerfest dot
com and buy your tickets there. Now a couple things
on the blog today. He got a hand it to Israel.
They are not messing around when they have decided to
take out the leadership of all of the people who
send a lot of their whole lives trying to destroy Israel.

(01:24:35):
Now it's the local Aloxa Martyrs Brigade leader who was
killed in broad daylight. Oh yeah, in the West Bank.
Apparently undercover Israeli forces open fire on a car in
the West Bank city of Nabilis. They killed five terror suspects,
one of them being the long sought leader of the

(01:24:56):
Oxa Martyr Brigade terror group. And here's the thing about
We've now had multiple people who were long sought after
and you know, you got to think that at least
the first round of people that the Israelis took out
probably were like, nah, you know what, I've been on
the run for so many years. I'm good now. I

(01:25:17):
bet everybody's looking over their shoulders and I'm fine with this.
By the way, I'm absolutely fine with this. The Israeli
police had indications that this guy and his fellow terrorists
were planning to launch another terror attack. Israel has had
in the last few days. We're not even reporting them
really in the United States because it's Israeli's being attacked,

(01:25:40):
and God forbid that the American people get an even
view of what's going on. So Israelis have been suffering
street attacks, meaning guys with knives or just stabbing people
on the streets. People with guns are shooting people on
the streets. And you know, the kicker here is that
these people who are attacking Israelis are Israeli citizens. That
should just give you an idea of how diverse the

(01:26:02):
citizenry of Israel really is. There are people in Israel
that are not Jewish, that are perfectly happy and willing
to give their lives in the Islamic state ideals, so
good for Israel. Another one bites the dust, moving on,
big big story out of CBS. CBS is you, guys,

(01:26:24):
CBS has lost it. I used to love CBS when
I first started watching the Evening News. I started watching
CBS News with Dan Rather because I liked him, and
I didn't really care for Ted Copple. Who else was
on against him? It was Ted Copple on ABC, I think,
and the Canadian guy. Who's the Canadian guy? Dang it?

(01:26:50):
Not Ted Copple. Oh my gosh, you guys, I can
picture him perfectly and I can't remember his name. In
any case, I didn't really like any of the other
two guys, So I started watching Dan Rather, and I
watched him up until he absolutely made a clown of
himself and the network in his efforts to dethrone George W.
Bush when he accepted completely fabricated documentation to run an

(01:27:12):
otherwise unverified story about George W. Bush in the hopes
that it would prevent him from winning the election. That
is exactly what happened at that point. So what is
that nineteen two thousand or was that two thousand and eight?
I can't remember. I stopped watching Dan rather and I
don't watch the evening news, but I do see some
of the evening news stuff online. That being said, we

(01:27:35):
all know how Nora O'Donnell behaved in the last debate.
It was terrible, I mean absolutely terrible and so biased
and so mean girl. It was just it was terrible.
But now we know that the rot goes way, way,
way deep in CBS News. Yesterday, I talked about the
story and the story of the CBS News anchor morning

(01:27:57):
anchor who decided to actually do a hard interview with
a guy who wrote a purely anti Israel book and
he was reprimanded. Tony de Coople was reprimanded for that
and admonished by executives for that interview. And now we
know that in that fractious meeting of the CBS Morning's

(01:28:19):
editorial team, there was a big discussion about whether it
was fair. Peter Jennings, thank you, thank you, Texter, thank
you so much, or email or that was Scott via email.
Now we know and a lot of you are Yeah.
Tom Brokaw was an NBC thank you very much text
as we got you. Yeah. Peter Jennings started Moscow because

(01:28:41):
he couldn't say Moscow guys, I've always been told there
are no cows in Moscow. Moscow, I don't know, but yes,
it was Tom Jenning, Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings. So
now CBS News is deciding whether or not it's fair
to talk about whether it's should exist at all. But

(01:29:01):
that's not all that CBS News has decided. CBS News
told its reporters that they should not say that Israel
or that Jerusalem is in Israel. In late August, Mark
Memeri this is from the Free Press, the director of

(01:29:24):
Standards and Practices at CBS News, send an email to
all CBS News employees reminding them to be careful with
some terms when we talk or write about the news
from Israel and Gaza. One of the words on Memet's
list of terms was Jerusalem of Jerusalem. Memet wrote, do
not refer to it as being in Israel. Now that's

(01:29:45):
a little bit awkward because Israel is the capital or
excuse me, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, and Jerusalem
is writ smack in the middle of Israel. And the
reas in that CBS News has taken this stance is
because Israel is a part of the conflict the Palestinians

(01:30:07):
want East Jerusalem and they want to be able to
control East Jerusalem and the Jews rightfully. So we're like, yeah, no,
we're not going to split up the capital of Israel.
The US Embassy is now in Jerusalem, and for CBS
News to say, do not refer to Jerusalem as being

(01:30:27):
in Israel would indicate that it's some What it's like
a it's like an Indian reservation though, it's like it's
like its own little country. It's like Luxembourg inside it's
a smaller country inside a smaller country. So yeah, yeah,
that's that's ridiculous. But this is what we're up against.

(01:30:52):
But remember kids, no media bias. Just ask them. They'll
tell you. They absolutely will tell you. Now, well, I
wasn't going to talk about this necessarily, but I got
a little bit of time because we had to move.
Danielle Drinsky and I would love, love, love to know
if gene therapy is available for these particular genes. On

(01:31:15):
the blog it says, yes, skinny genes are a thing,
but it's spelled gen ees. And I asked a Rod
to see if he could get this. Professor doctor Henry
Chung from the School of Sport, Rehabilitation and Exercise Sciences
in the University of Essex in the UK. He has

(01:31:35):
done a big study that found that losing weight could
all be down to a combination of fourteen so called
skinny genes. Now, they studied people by putting them on
a plan very easy to follow, like basically, just do
these three things, and people with the most genetic markers
lost up to five kilograms during the study and people

(01:31:58):
without them dropped an abridge of two kilograms during the study.
The study found the perk C one, a gene that
encodes PGC one a, was key to weight loss and
present in the participants who lost the most weight, with
the research showing that sixty two percent of the drop
kilograms were linked to the gene and thirty seven percent

(01:32:22):
were linked to exercise and lifestyle factors. Now, despite these results,
doctor Chung says lifestyle factors and diet are still vital
for losing weight. But he did say the study highlighted
some important genes associated with taking inches off, the genes
J E, A, N S. But it's important to remember

(01:32:42):
that the genes ge nes associated with that the genes
will do nothing without exercise and lifestyle changes as they
are all interlinked. Now, why is this study important. This
study is important because as we look for ways to
help people lose weight and keep the way off, we
are gonna have to recognize that not everyone not everyone's body.

(01:33:05):
And I'm sorry if you don't know this by now.
You're probably one of those people who can eat whatever
you want and you exercise some and you think that
that's what's keeping it all off. You're just a little
bit of exercise you do. But for the rest of us,
that weight is a constant struggle. This could be a
game changer because now they have the ability to make
gene therapies that are specific to the individuals. Now obviously

(01:33:28):
not using this for weight loss just yet, but it
does certainly lend credence to the notion that we're going
to get at some point in the future. And this
is one of the things we talked about with Thomas
Fry a long time ago, our futurist. One of the
things we're going to get to in the future is
that they're going to be able to basically do a
genetic panel of us. Right, Like, I'm gonna go in
and say, look, I love the soda weight loss plan,

(01:33:51):
but I'd like to be even skin here, So can
you do my genetic panel, find out which of these
genes that I'm missing, and then using gene therapy, you
can either weave your genes in, weave some extra gene
or whatever they do there, and all of a sudden,
you've got the genes that are gonna allow you to
lose twice as much weight than just not having those genes.
I mean that this could be used for everything. It

(01:34:12):
could be used to fight specific forms of cancer, because eventually,
I believe that they're going to find a genetic component
that is going to be incredibly useful, and that genetic
component is going to help people be able to fight
off really bad diseases a lot easier than they can now.
And I just I thought this was super interesting. But
is anyone in the listening audience right now surprised that

(01:34:36):
some people just got the genetic lottery when it comes
to not, you know, gating weight. I'm just saying, anyway,
Mandy oh, oh, person person who wrote about something running
in your genes, I'm I'm not going to read that.
Tony Deacoppela is still on the weeklate morning show. It's
still on you know it was Jeff Gore on the

(01:34:58):
weekend morning show. Who is why was he fired? I
don't know why I was fired. Again, I don't watch
these shows, so I don't care, Mandy. They'll use the
Vatican City to justify Jerusalem not being part of Israel
but an independent country. If Jerusalem was an independent country,
then that would be one thing. But they're talking about
splitting in half. And it's not in half now. They're

(01:35:19):
gonna split in half and East Jerusalem will go to
the Palestinians. It's in the problem with that is that
Jerusalem is surrounded by more of Israel, right, so you'd
have this pocket of Palestinian leadership. And I'll tell you
I don't think that is a tenable solution at this time.
I really don't. They need to make sure that any

(01:35:40):
two state solution ensures that the Muslim population has unfettered
access to the al Axa Mosque, which of course is
built on top of a very holy Jewish site. So
the whole thing is a mess, man. I mean, if
you've I know, nobody wants to go to Israel now, right,
but if this is ever settled, ever settled, I would

(01:36:03):
love for everyone to go because, first of all, when
you see how tiny it is, when you see how
small Old Jerusalem is, the Old City, and you see
how all of these religions are just crammed together and
stuck together and intertwined in a way that there should
be far more conflict, I think in Old Jerusalem than

(01:36:23):
there is, right, I mean, I just I don't know.
I do not know if that's going to work. Shall
we shall see. So we've gone from skinny Jeans back
to Jerusalem. But I also have another story on the
blog that I want to get in, and this one
I wish I had done this sooner because I don't
have that much time left. It's one of those BuzzFeed

(01:36:46):
stories forty times men drastically failed to understand women, And
I got to tell you, I was like, forty, they
only have forty. And guys, I'm not picking on you
at all. Do not think I'm picking on you with this,
because I know women cannot just be direct. Sometimes women
are all like beating around the bush hoping, you guess,

(01:37:06):
trying to figure it out. But the reality is, I'm
surprised it's only forty those are all on the blog today.
One of my favorites is uh is this one? I
don't understand it at all. Hang on one second, I
gotta find it why. One woman asked, why do somebody

(01:37:30):
ask why do women want to be shirtless so bad?
And a woman replied, because there's a double standard where
men can have their shirts off and women can't, despite
them having both the exact same chest nipples. The guy responded,
ours are flat, yours are round. Ours don't have milk.
We have it somewhere else than yours do. And I'm like, yes, sir,
I don't understand it either, but trust me on this.

(01:37:52):
It's never the women you want to see topless that
want to go topless. It never never is other guys.
I think menstrual pain is a myth. I challenge you
on that one. This is my favorite. I didn't know
about mascara. I thought girls just cried it cried ink

(01:38:12):
like squids. See now, now some of these guys deserve
to be blamed. I'm just throwing that out there. Now
I can't get the rest of it to load. Dang it,
dang you, slow Internet. Ryan Edwards is here and he's
gonna play my game with me. Come on up, Ryan, Now,
Ryan is going to be here when it actually opens,
the Great American Deer Fest. Correct me up, be watching it?

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
Yeah sort of.

Speaker 13 (01:38:37):
Well I think it opens like at five or so, Yeah,
somewhere on then. So yeah, so I guess I will.
I will see people wandering in and we'll go from there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
Are you a beer guy?

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
You know I don't drink as much.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
As I used to.

Speaker 13 (01:38:50):
Yeah, So, I mean, I listen, this is amazing, Like
I will say that, for the design to this and
the opportunity to really sample a lot of really amazing beers,
I'm a big fan.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
But yeah, I mean it's been one of those deals
like this year. For whatever reason.

Speaker 13 (01:39:08):
I think part of it started with my wife just
not drinking. She stopped drinking like almost a year ago.
And then when you're by yourself, yeah, and you're like,
I don't know, man, I just.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
See some of us muscle through that. Ryan.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
No, I understand.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Jack's not a big drinker. He was a much bigger
drinker when I met him, but he just isn't anymore.
But now as I get older, alcohol is not my friend.
But I still love beer. But they have all kinds
of other stuff. They have cider, they have they have
non alcoholic beers. They have ready to drink cocktails and cans.
They have all kinds of stuff for the non beer lover.
This year at the Great American Beer Fest, it's going

(01:39:41):
to be a very, very fun event. I got to
talk to some brewers. I also scared the heck out
of a bunch of brewers trying to get them to
talk to me. And they were literally like terrified, right
just because I just asked them to do an interview
and they were like, and I said, look, dude, there's
no math, there's no geopolitical opinions. I just want to
talk about beer. And they I it took me a
while to find them to come talk to me, which

(01:40:02):
I found kind of funny.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
That's kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
Kid, you look a very approachable person. I'm nice. I'm not.
I'm not. I mean, I don't think I'm scary.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
No, I mean, I'm sure you didn't walk up.

Speaker 13 (01:40:12):
It's like, all right, what do you think of our
current political clients who are.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Voting for I did actually say to one group of guys,
I was like, I've never worked so hard to market
your product for free, Like I've never never worked so
much to try and give you free publicity or be
shot down. They never talked to me either. I was like, okay,
but there was more news there before, and nobody would
talk to me. And I was likest interview you ever
had in your life. Yeah no, they hadn't. They were

(01:40:38):
all from out of seat multiple states. Yeah no, no
they were. It's just funny that some people just walk
up like that. Yeah no. And I even said it's
just audio, there's no video, and they're I care. I'm like,
what do you think I'm gonna ask you? So, what
do you like?

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
Trump?

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Rakamola? You know, like at a beer festival of the
hardest thing to ask popcorn, pretzels. What's your choice?

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
I'm a pretzels guy.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
I'm a popcorn gal. Okay, that's not only good popcorn.
Have a level of popcorn snobs. Yeah, I'm not just
any old popcorn.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Yeah, I am good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
Better be good. You better bring your a game with
the popcorn making, because I make really good popcorn.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
It's a very important distinction.

Speaker 13 (01:41:16):
And listen, my disdain for popcorn is more to do
the fact that I worked in a movie theater.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Oh yeah, and you know what, I worked at Longhorn
Steakhouse for years and until fairly recently. I still love
their food, but I think they're doing what a lot
of restaurants are doing and downrating the quality a little bit.
And the last time we ate there, I was like,
you lost me, Longhorn. After all those years of dedicated service,
restaurants are second wind, right, just a little bit. All right, Ryan,

(01:41:43):
nobody's here, So here we go. Now it's time for
the most deciding segment all the radio of its kind
of the day. Oh my god, that just echoed across
the convention center to you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
Because that's what you would do, Yes, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
You'd project no fear, no fear. I gotta pull up
my trivia calendar because I forgot my Like, okay, Grit,
what is our dad joke of the day, please?

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Dad joke of the day.

Speaker 14 (01:42:09):
Why is it so cheap to throw a party at
a haunted house? I don't know, because the ghosts bring
all the booze.

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
Actually, I gotta remember that one with the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Today's trivia question. The first Winter Olympics were held in
nineteen twenty four in what city of France? I did
not know the answer already popped up, so I can't
even get it, So I can't all right, well it's
not parish Chamoni. I had no idea Shamoni of course,
of course, Chamoni, of course, yes, I mean as one knows.

(01:42:49):
I mean, all right, what is our uh?

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
How about a word of the day?

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Thank you? That would be great.

Speaker 14 (01:42:56):
Word of the day today is numinous. It's an adjective, numinous,
n U M I n O U s.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
Does it have to do with money?

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Day it? Or does it have to do with sps? No?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
God?

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
I want what is a news? Is that money or samps?
Somebody you can't remember.

Speaker 14 (01:43:20):
Numinous is a formal, often literary word that typically describes
things that have a mysterious or spiritual quality.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Like that luminous. Yes, all right, what's our jeopardy category?

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Jeopardy category for today? Movie? Low Cowes.

Speaker 14 (01:43:37):
So I'm gonna tell you the movie and you have
to say which city the film is mainly set in?

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
Oh gosh, okay, wow?

Speaker 14 (01:43:45):
First one eight Mile Bryan Mandy, What is Detroit Detroit?

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Next one Blade Runner? Ryan? Ryan? What is New York City?
Incorrect date?

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
I'm not taking a shot at that. I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
It was Los Angeles.

Speaker 14 (01:44:05):
It's so close and yet so far Next one Ferris
Bueller's Day, Ryan, Ryan or Chicago correct?

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Take it?

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Pacific Heights Man, What is San Francisco? Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
Last one, the sixth sense.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
I have no idea. Take a guess, Ryan, Call, take
a guess for the for the tie there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Chicago in correct? Philadelphia, Philadelphia so.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Far away?

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Do you know that when Penn and Teller used to
have a movie club in New York City that they
would just like send it out somehow before the Internet,
and everybody would show up on a street corner and
they'd go see a movie, and as the opening establishing
shot of whatever movie was playing, they would all murmur
to themselves Chicago. And that's what I think of whenever
anybody talks about like where.

Speaker 13 (01:44:59):
A movie, Well, I've got it on the brain a
little bit, because we did a whole dissertation. By the way,
anytime I get al talking movies, especially eighties movies, it
is one of the funniest things I've ever experienced in
my life.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Oh, he loves the Dark Vader and that.

Speaker 13 (01:45:10):
Yeah, but he was blending like he didn't know who
John Hughes was but.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
He knew all his movies well but no, no, no,
not really.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
He just knew that a lot of them took place
in Chicago. So he started.

Speaker 13 (01:45:20):
Blending these movies and then he started like getting into
risky business and how that's basically the same plot as
Ferris Bueller and not even close.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Hookers and Ferris Bueller quite literally what I said, Yeah,
I mean no.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
So yeah, So it was just it was just fascinating.

Speaker 13 (01:45:35):
But anyways, so I kinda have Chgo Chicago on the
brain because basically all John Hughes movies are in and
around Sago.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
All right, I'm gonna hand it over to the boys.
They'll be here. If you're coming to see the afternoon show.
They are. We are all the way at the back.
Look for the boost mobile display right after right after
a section, get the Brewer, and uh, I'll see you
guys tomorrow. Keep it right to her own gay away