10-16-24 FULL SHOW - A Diehard Progressives Leaves The Dems Behind, + Spooky Season

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Yes, we have a really big, fat show for you today,
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Let's jump to the blog and it will help explain
so much.

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Look for the headline there.

Speaker 7 (01:06):
This is ten sixteen twenty four A die hard progressive
leaves the Dems behind and spooky season. Click on that
and here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
I think going with some missing office half American all
with ships and clipments of state.

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That's ConA press.

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Platt today on.

Speaker 7 (01:23):
The blog Adrian Felix was a rising star in the
Colorado Democratic Party. The thirteenth floor Haunted House is up
and running. Gared Polis gets his revenge on oil and
gas in Colorado. Thomas Massey exposes the CDC lies. This
is someone's crazy imagination.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Am I right?

Speaker 7 (01:41):
That horrible person who abandoned his dog is facing charges.
A sick double standard on death. The media destroyed itself.
The New York Times shows why people don't trust the media, scrolling, scrolling,
and then they show again. And now a little comedy
from Derek trup Trump on economic They learned to code

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and now can't get jobs. Yes, corporate landlords, jacka Prince, Yes,
return to office is about control al Hamas infiltrated Europe.
It's time to talk about that high risk pool for insurance.
Rain may have started life. Did Biden betray Israel with this?
This is why we can't get ty spicy. We're growing

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veins in a lab now. John Brady is an NFL owner. Now,
Maud was a marine. Michael Corleone almost got fired. Ditch
the apostrophes in your Christmas cards, want to use social
media safely, stop doing poor people things? And now dogs
review food and I'm guessing there may be a rules change.

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Hey Rod got to host Broncos Contree tonight last night
and John Colbera's interview.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
With Adrian Felix Knows.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
Are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
Ross Kaminsky, why they perplexed face?

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Would you be willing and able to elaborate on one
of those for me?

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Pitney the tie Oh.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yes, yes, okay.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
If you ever tried to order Thai Hot as a
white guy and have them go no Taie hot for you? Yes, okay,
that happens all the time. It's like a running joke in.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Our household, and they're wrong.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
Well, here's the thing. Let me tell your little Tai
hot story very quickly. So we moved to Louisville, Kentucky,
right around the corner from the best Thai restaurant in Louisville, Kentucky.
So we ordered take out there a lot, right, because
why wouldn't you It's right around the corner. And Chuck
would call and Chuck would say, I want Tie Hot
and they would say, okay, okay, no problem, Tai hot,
Well get it.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
It was obviously not tie hot.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Now, if you don't know what I'm talking about, if
you don't eat Thai food, they always ask you how
spicy they want it, like a one is if you
don't like spicy food, one is going to be plenty
spicy for you.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
For me, not nothing.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
I'm pretty much a medium hot person. But I ask
is the scale tie hot or American Hot. If it's
a Taie hot scale, then I'm a medium. But if
it's an American Hot scale, I'll go to hot.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
I'm not afraid I like hot food. Chuck.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Chuck likes tie hot, okay. So we kept ordering, it
kept coming in. It was only like medium, right. So
he finally calls and says, why can't you get this
is not ty hot and they said no, no white people,
no white people get tie hot, and he goes, I'll
be right there. So he goes down to the restaurant
and they're like, no, no white people, no tay hot,
and he holds that as military idea and they go,

(04:18):
oh gi okay, and they made him a dish that
he then sat at home and ate sitting at the table,
dripping sweat. His entire head because he's bald, was bright.
He looked like a red light bulb.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
He was so red. And he was like, this is amazing.
I was like, that's insane.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Did you try it?

Speaker 5 (04:38):
No?

Speaker 7 (04:39):
No, I don't like to have my face burnt off
at all, like in any way, shape or form. He
loves it, But yeah, you can't as a white person,
they won't give you tiye hot. So this story is
about a woman. Now, this story, there's so much wrong
with this story, this ti hot story.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
A woman is now suing.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
A restaurant in California because he ordered this is it's
kind of funny. Let me just see if I can
get through this without So.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Her name is Walia.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
She went to dinner with a friend in twenty twenty
one in the North Santa Cruz Avenue restaurant in the
wealthy South Bay Cities downtown.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
She ordered appetizers. Ross one is called dragon balls.

Speaker 7 (05:16):
Okay, so she orders the dragon balls and the description
of the dragon balls says, and I'm reading it, spicy
chicken ball fried with mint, shallot, green onion, cilantro kafferly
lime leaves, chili and rice powder served hot, so it
literally starts with spicy first word, because they were advertised

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as spicy. Rather than order something that wasn't, she said,
can you make them with less spice?

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Make them less spicy? Now? According to her, she.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Took a bite of the dragon ball and immediately felt
her entire mouth, the roof of her mouth, her tongue,
her throat, and her nose burned like fire.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Her eyes and nose watered, and she began coughing.

Speaker 7 (05:59):
The lawsuit alleges that permanent damage to her esophagus and
vocal cords and nostril were done by the dragon balls,
and she's now suing for damages.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
And this is going to prevent all white people from
ever getting tie on again.

Speaker 7 (06:12):
The word's gonna get out, and it's over. The dream
of having tie hot is done.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
You're right, there's a lot to say there, including that
dragon's gotta be pissed.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
I want to be the guy who has to harvest those,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
I want to eat that guy.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
He's just got an eye patch, he's like missing a
big scrap.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Of his hair, he just got burns all over him.
What do you do it? Harvest the dragon balls?

Speaker 7 (06:37):
That's what I do, okay, so I wasn't gonna start
the show here.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
That was more later on story.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
But now the story. Thank you barrel through.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
I want you to.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Ask you a question, though, since you're sitting here and
you're ruining the shows, will continue.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
To ruin the show.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
If you got a minute, did you happen to watch
Donald Trump at the Chicago economics interviews that he did
with Bloomberg?

Speaker 9 (07:00):
No?

Speaker 6 (07:00):
But was that the one where he just played music
or was it did you know.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
The story about what happened there than one that you're
talking about that was a rally?

Speaker 6 (07:07):
Yeah, I know what happened.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
So no, this was actually a sit down interview with
Chicago economists shot what is it?

Speaker 5 (07:13):
What is it? The Shock Chago Economics Club, And I
honestly turned it on this morning. I don't have high
expectations when I turn on video.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
Of Donald Trump. I'm just gonna be perfectly honest. I
don't find him to be a compelling speaker. I just
I have low expectations. I was actually kind of shocked,
not because I think he's right, but his defense of
his tariff plan is not about it is about forcing
manufacturing in the United States that that's the endgame, forcing manufacturing.

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And by the time you finished hearing him talk about it,
and to be clear, I am anti tariff just across
the board. Okay, it's kind of like, you know, socialism
never really worked because it's never been done right.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Well maybe, but we're not going to find out.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
But that being said, I understood what he's doing or
what he wants to do better, even if I think
it's the wrong mechanism, you know what I mean. It
was a very interesting hour. It was a very interesting
I put it on the blog today and I just
think by the way Vice President Harris declined to sit
down with the Chicago Economic Club, mostly because I mean,

(08:21):
come on, you know, what are we really going to do?
But he pressed Trump on a lot of stuff. It's
a good back and forth. But one thing it became apparent.
I kind of already knew this Trump has a much
better handle on policy issues than he shows that any
of those rallies that he when he's talking to normal Americans,

(08:41):
you know, air quotes around that he does not necessarily
display the policy depth that he.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Does in this interview, because this interview demanded it.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying you and I both
know Steve Moore, and he's said that forever, and even
in his new book he says, you know, the first
time he was asked to go meet Trump, he was
very skeptical and didn't think the guy would know much
and didn't think the guy would have any depth.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
And then when he met him the first time, he
was pretty impressed for all the same reasons.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
You just say, it's just unfortunate that. But here's the thing.
I can't blame Trump for this because I think that
more than any other politician I've ever seen in my lifetime.
And at this point, Trump is a politician, Okay, I
mean that's just a reality.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
He's a politician.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
He understands, like read the room better than any other
politician I've ever seen. He speaks to the people he's
speaking with now, unlike other politicians who become a different
person depending on the people they're speaking to, like whatever,
oh I'm like Kamala's oh my god, ye now oh,

(09:45):
I can't even with that. But he's the same person.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
He just changes the way he communicates. So when he's
in front of.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
A rally, it's blathering on about nonsense. It doesn't matter
it's just red meat, red meat, red meat, red meat.
Crowd goes wild, everybody goes home. But in this setting
he displays a depth that I had forgotten.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
That I think I know he has.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
And it's like, but he understands how to campaign, right,
he understands this. This economic discussion is not what I've
asked a number of Americans want to hear.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
They're not going to take.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
The hour to sit down and watch this, and they
should because this is.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
The stuff that matters.

Speaker 10 (10:20):
You know.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
I think that all the people who love.

Speaker 8 (10:25):
The red and meat are all already voting for him,
and they're not enough to win the election. Yeah, so
he should probably do a little bit more in public,
even at a rally, even just five minutes of some
of the stuff you're describing here. That sounds a little
more serious, because, like you said, very few people are
going to see the Chicago Economic Club thing. More people
might see some of the rally, and maybe at the

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margin he'll pick up some people who say, oh, you
know what, this guy's a little more serious minded than
I thought.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
I do think that, if you know, it does get
harder to argue that he's.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Just an idiot. I mean, you know, whenever you're on
the right.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Politically, people on the left are going to say you're stupid.
It's just the reality of the situation. They've said it
about every single Republican candidate, even when it was just
objectively not accurate. Right, So you know, they love to
talk about Trump being an empty suit or a lightweight
or any of that stuff, and I think.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
A lot of it at this point is projection because
their candidate truly is an empty suit.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
I couldn't say that about Joe Biden. I have a
lot of issues with Joe Biden. I don't think he's
very bright, but he wasn't an empty suit. Kamala Harris
is an empty suit. There is no there, there, big hat,
no cattle, whatever kind of cliche you want to throw
at her. I think that is becoming abundantly clear the.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
More she talks.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
Couldn't agree more, and just one quick thing and I'll
stop ruining your show.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
So clearly, Kamala's team.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
Thought that hiding kind of the mobile version of the
basement campaign wasn't working, so they did the rounds in
the friendly media.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
That isn't working enough.

Speaker 8 (11:53):
So tonight, this afternoon, she's sitting down with Brett Bear
of Fox News, right, and it's going to air at
five o'clock, five.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
O'clock, four o'clock.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
What is when is he on our time? I don't watch.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
Any of those, and so I just want to mention
one thing the listeners. By the way, they're recording it
an hour before and they're playing it through with no
interruptions and no edits.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
They're gonna play the full thing straight through.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
But what what do you make of Kamala Harris agreen
to give an interview to Fox News.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
I think she's desperate.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
I mean, I think that she is struggling with groups
that traditionally she hasn't struggled with.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Badly.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
The whole Barack Obama basically like yelling at black men.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
So they send Barack in to yell at black men.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
When when is the last time Barack Obama actually hung
around black people other than Oprah?

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Do you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
I mean, I don't think that he is nearly as relatable,
still beloved, but I don't think people relate to him
in the way that they did. And he took that
kind of SCOLDI attitude with black men, and I'm like, I,
you know, with all due respect, I know men white
or black or brown, they don't really like to be scolded.
Trust me on this. It's not a winning proposition. So

(13:07):
I just thought that was very odd. You know, they're
trying to shore up now she's running around making all
these promises, the black male agenda, you know, forgive of
the loans for only black people.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
How in the world is that not the.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Most racist thing that anyone has said since George Wallace
on the campaign trail.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
Right, I'm not even kidding. It's racist to India illegal.
But if she's gonna do it in a way that's legal,
then that means it's actually not for black men, because
it's got.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
To be for every party. So it's either impossible or
a lie.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Yeah, I mean either of those things, it's gonna be true.
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
It's gonna be either or it's fine. It's fine. It's
six pm, says the text on the text line. By
the way, you can always text the Common Spirit Health
text line, Mandy. People who attend rallies for Trump are
already voting for him. He does lots of interviews where
he talks like a saint informed person, sane informed person,
But the media never puts those on the air, and
it had a pretty impressive showing on Gutfeld.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
He was really good on Gutfeld too.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
Media is not interested in anything that makes Trump look
intelligent or informed.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
That's actual.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
It is, It absolutely is.

Speaker 8 (14:13):
I think it's four pm. It's six pm Eastern time. Okay,
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it's six pm Eastern time,
four pm hour time, and.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
It's half an hour unedited. I think that's right.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
This one says you can try to put lipstick on
a pig all you want is Ploomberg interview showed us
what an idiot he is. Instead of answering questions, he
just attacked, per usual, the interviewer. He attacked the interviewer
one time when he said, you guys have been wrong
for years and he's not entirely wrong about that, But
he didn't attack the interviewer.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
I mean he did one time.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
I think what folks need to understand, and I'll sort
of half speak for Mandy here and then she can
correct me.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
When either of us says something that is.

Speaker 8 (14:57):
Critical of one that one of the presidential candidates, you
should not, just based on your own partisanship, think that
that's somehow us complimenting the other one. Right, So if
I see something negative about Harris, it doesn't mean that
I'm somehow here shilling for Trump or Mandy or the
other way around.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
It's just sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, as a matter of fact, I
filled out my ballot yesterday and for the third time,
I marked Donald Trump, and here we are.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
I mean, here we go. That's it. So but I
don't have to like it.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
I'm not gonna like it, and I'm gonna complain about
it continuously because I just at this point I feel like,
whoever gets elected in some way, we should all just
bend over because that's where we are.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Thanks for letting me ruin some of your shows.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, okay, kama is four pm Mountain time.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
You're right, that's what I thought.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well, Danian, I forgot to set my DVR and now
I'm gonna have to just go to YouTube and watch
it after the fact.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
Thank you, Rosco ruin someone else's show right now. You
can do that coming up a little bit later on
the show. You guys know, I love The Devil's Advocate
with John caldare Uh and his latest episode is with
a young man named Adrian Felix and Adrian, I'm trying
to remember what his position was with the Democratic Party,

(16:13):
but I think he was either secretary or treasurer. I
don't know exactly, but he was a young man moving
up in the party, very involved in party politics. Recently
announced that he had left the Democratic Party. And this
is not one of those red pilled conversion stories. He
left the Democratic Party because they were they were not

(16:36):
true to the ideals that they espoused and he believed
in I think that's the best way to put it.
Very interesting interview with John Caldera, but I'm going to
have a very different interview. They talked a lot about
specific issues, and we're probably going to do less on
specific issues because honestly, I would love to have Adrian
on on a regular basis because he is a leftist,

(17:00):
but he's not incapable of explaining his positions, and I'd
like to be able to have someone on the show
on a regular basis that can articulate the positions on
the other side of the aisle that I think are insane,
so then we can have a discussion to see a
what problems we're trying to solve and maybe come to

(17:21):
an understanding of what he believes is the best way
to solve the problem, and I can share my best
way to solve the problem, and maybe we can have
a thing called a conversation.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
That would be lovely. But today I want to talk
to Adrian.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
He's coming on at one o'clock about he's a young
man who is disillusioned by party politics. I think that
we are on the cusp of the next generation of
young people simply rejecting the two party system overwhelmingly.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
And if Prop one.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Thirty one passes, I will be fascinated to see the
polling data. I think young people are going to vote
for it in droves because they're not being represented now.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
And you know what I want to talk about Prop.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
One thirty one, That is the proposition about ranked choice voting,
because this has been the most active question, conversation, pushback
that I've gotten from the voter guide, and I will
talk about it next. I added my voter guide and
a lot of you are going ahead.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
It's right.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
It should be on the top line of the blog today. Again,
if you don't know where the blog is or you
can't find it, all you have to do is use
the Google and go to Mandy Connell Voter Guide twenty
twenty four. Just put that in the search bar and
it will take you to my voter guide. The biggest
thing I'm getting pushed back, both via text.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Messages and on x and on.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
Email or for people who are trying to convince me
not to vote for Proposition one thirty one. This is
the proposition that establishes a universal primary and ranked choice
voting in general elections. And I've had some very thoughtful
responses from people.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
I really have. I've had some very thoughtful.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Back and forth from people, But honestly, all of the
conversations have simply made me more certain that I'm voting
and I did vote for Prop one thirty one, because ultimately,
the arguments that people are making boil down to this.
If they're making arguments that are not specifically about Prop

(19:23):
one thirty one, the argument they're making against the proposition
is number one, they're like, oh, it's too complicated. People
just can't figure this out.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
I think that's crap.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
People can absolutely figure it out. This is not complicated.
You have everybody on the primary ballot, everyone in the
race on the primary ballot, the top four vote getters,
you vote for one person in the primary, and it
will say on the ballot vote for one. You vote
for one person. Top four vote getters go to the

(19:56):
general election. Now, general election, you have an option. You
can just vote for one candidate. You can say this
is my candidate and I'm voting for him. Or you
can say this is my candidate, but if they don't win,
I'd be okay with this person. Second, I'd be okay
with this person. Third, I'd be okay with this person.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Fourth.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Is that too convoluted, too complicated? I mean, I don't
understand how stupid American voters are. If that's your argument
against this. Now, you don't have to vote for one
or two. You have to vote for one, but you
don't have to vote for two, three, and four. It's
not required that you rank the votes. It's not required.
But a smart candidate trade. For instance, I was running,

(20:42):
a wide was running, Keenan Dixon was running, and Rob
Dawson was running winning me anyway, So I go in
campaign like this.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
I say vote for me and don't vote for anybody else.
Just vote for me.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
I'm the only candidate that you want to vote for
and then A says, look, vote for me.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
But hey, you know what, if.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
You're a Mandy Connell supporter, I sure hope you would
vote for me in second place.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Or if you're a Keenan.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
Dixon supporter, here's what I have for you. Here's why
I think you should vote for me in second place.
If you're a Rob Dawson supporter, I love your second
place vote, and here's why I'd like to get your
second place vote. What happens on election day is my
voters put Mandy Connell number one, and if I don't
get a majority, then they go to number two. Now
a Rod has been out there campaigning to everyone, so

(21:29):
all of a sudden, everybody else's number two votes go
to a Rod. A Rod wins because he gets a majority.
Now what this means is that candidates are not going
to be able to focus their attention on a small
group of voters.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
And let me tell you why I use that example
that I just did.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Everybody likes to talk about Alaska and the fact that
Representative Mary Pertola is a Democrat and she represents Alaska,
which has traditionally sent Republicans to Congress. Alaska is a
majority independent state, meaning that they have. I think it's
like fifty eight percent of Alaskans are registered independents.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
They happen to be conservative independents.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
Okay, when Sarah Palin ran for office, she told her
constituents to not rank any other candidates. If she had
just said, look, vote for me first, but then vote
for Nick the other Republican vote for him second, and
give us the best chance to keep this seat, we
would probably have a Republican in that seat.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
They screwed it up.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Most of Sarah Palin's ballots had no second place finisher.

Speaker 10 (22:36):
Rain choice voting really, qul question, because I'm genuinely curious
in Rain choice voting. Let's say this four candidates like
you just laid out. If you love to and hate too,
can you just go one, two and three? Okay, one two,
that's it to do.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
If you only love one candidate and you don't want
any of the others, you vote for the one.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
To me, I'm more pragmatic than that me.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
I'm gonna look at all four and say, you know what, Okay,
this is my candidate. Love my caate, want my candidate
to win. But if I'm in the minority, who do
I want to perhaps win in second place who is
also acceptable for me.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
And by the way, every day, every.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
Round of tabulations, the lowest vote getter gets eliminated. So
it's not complicated, you guys, It's pretty damn simple. BuzzFeed
has made an entire website of ranking things. I think
we can figure it out on a ballot now. Somebody asked,
what did Mike Rosen say about this? So I pulled
up Mike's voter guide. His recommendation is hell no. He says,

(23:35):
this is an absurdly convoluted and impractical electoral scheme that
eliminates party primaries on the pretense of replacing our two
party system to elect moderate candidates. Ranked choice voting requires
voters to check boxes ranking all competing candidates for the
same office. That's not true, including those they'd ever vote for.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
That's not true.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
It's for creators and supporters like George Soros, are overwhelmingly
on the left or simply naive. In practice, it's been
manipulated by Democrats. At least ten Republican states have already
revoked or bandoned, and so he's a no. Sarah Palin
and Nick Beggach, the guys who were running in Alaska
did it wrong. The Democrats didn't have to manipulate anything,

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and Mary Pertola, by the way, easily got a majority
because most of Sarah Palin's number two votes went to her,
not the other Republican. Most of Nick Beggae's Republican votes
went to Mary Pertola second, not Sarah Palin.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
So the system.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
Itself was not the problem. The candidates were the problem.
But now people are demagoguing against the system, which I
truly believe, truly truly believe will incentivize better behavior in
the races. There will be no upside to demonizing your
opponent of the same party, especially of the same party,

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no upside whatsoever, because you've got to have those supporters
put you number two. It changes the way elections have
to be done. And I do think, I really do
think that it will be a bumpy start, but it
will work and in the long run will all be
amazed we didn't do it sooner. Right now, you know

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our system of elections, the primaries that the voters pay for,
by the way, everybody, everybody pays for our primary system.
But if you're a truly moderate independent and you'd like
to vote for a Democrat in a congressional race, but
you'd like to vote for a Republican in the gubernatorial
race in the primary, you don't get the chance to

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do that because the two parties are.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Setting all the rules.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
The two parties are the ones that are doing everything,
and the two parties are on the way to being
a minority. In Colorado right now, forty eight percent of
Colorado's are independent voters.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
They are choosing not.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
To affiliate with a political party. And instead of telling me, well,
why don't you just join a party, I have freedom
of association according to the Bill of Rights, and you're
not going to usurp that so I can exercise my
right to vote. The only people that may are making
the argument that the system works are partisans partisan excuse me, yeah,
that it works. Our partisans on the left and partisans

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on the right, and all.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
The people in the middle.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
We are just twisting in the wind based on what
they've decided to do with our tax dollars while they
choose who we get to vote for, especially in uncompetitive districts.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Mandy, how easy.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Do you think it will be to educate people how
to effectively use rank choice voting? I think we can
figure it out. I think we can make it happen.
I have faith in the American voter. It is Peltola.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
I keep saying Petola because I had a teacher in
college named Petola.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Didn't like that teacher, mind you.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
At a presidential level, can I vote for a libertarian
one with the second choice being the Republican candidate. Absolutely.
That's the other part about this that I like. Now
you don't have to feel like you're wasting your vote.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Right now. You can cast your.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
Ballot for who your heart really wants you to cast
your ballot for, knowing they probably won't win. But at
least you get to cast your ballot and not feel
like you've lost the vote. That's another very appealing thing.
You are incredibly naive if you think rich Libs won't
load up the ballot with candidates. Let me ask you
a question. How many rich Libs can go on a

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ballot and still expect to make the top four? The
top four here? Because in your definition, say we've got
ten ultra rich Libs and one conservative running for the
fourth Congressional district. Okay, just using this as an example,
and all of the rich Libs they're not all going

(27:56):
to get every vote, so the conservative votes are going
to go for the conservative can which sensibly will put
them in the top four. I mean, these the machinations
that people are talking about are simply not realistic unless
the conservative candidate doesn't get their message out at all
for conservatives to vote for them, and then they have
to make the case to everyone in the general to

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not only get a first place vote, but get a
second place vote. You know what, That distanc centivizes. Wack
of noodles on the hard left and the hard right. Anyway, Mandy,
the blue Book says this will not pertain to the
presidential election.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
It will not.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
It will only be for state wide races, only for
state wide races.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
So there you go, Mandy.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
I'm a registered Republican in Kansas only because I want
to vote in primaries.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
I would love ranked choice voting. Mandy. Maybe the voters
can figure.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
It out, but I highly doubt that the politicians will
figure out. Too much backstabbing going on at all times,
and this distance centivizes that too. If we want better elections,
we have to have a better PROP one thirty one.
This is the ranked choice voting initiative AM I've already
voted yes. I filled out my ballot, dropping it off

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this afternoon, and I voted yes.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Now, a couple things.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
One my arguments against ranked choice voting Number one, Parliamentary
governments allow small, inconsequential third parties to rise to share power,
leading to chaos and government disruption. Our CV is the
parliamentary version of elections in allowing for extreme third parties
to rise to power. Okay, they can only rise to
power if they convince a majority.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Of voters to vote for them.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Because another point I need to make is nobody wins
without a majority, Unlike in races today where people can
win thirty eight percent in a split field and they
can be elected while sixty two percent of the elector
did not vote for them. You have to have a majority,
and it works like this.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Round one. If no one has a majority, then it
goes to round two.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
After round two, nobody has a majority, and you've now
eliminated the fourth person in the After the first round,
second round, if nobody has a majority, they eliminate the
third person and then they give those until somebody goes
over fifty percent. So unless a dangerous third party can
convince enough voters that they're not dangerous, they're not going.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
To rise to power. The whole point of this is.

Speaker 7 (30:25):
To encourage more civil debating, campaigning, more civil elections. You
know how many of you have seen somebody in the
last little bit that is just like, damn, I'm ready
for this election to be over. And somebody said to
me yesterday, election season is the worst, worst time, and
it should not be that way. We should be listening

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to candidates telling us solutions to big problems.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
We should be.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Listening to people telling us how they're going to make
our districts, our state, our legislature better. But instead we
have people running around demagoguing and demonizing the other side.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
That's not good enough for me. Now.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
The second question they had is our CV voters forces
voters to either vote for candidates they don't want to
support or risk having their vote cast aside in certain
scenarios and not count to vote totals. That is objectively false,
unless you can give me an example of when that's
going to happen, Because that is objectively false. What happens

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is if you only vote for one candidate, if they
have to go to the second round, your ballot at
that point is considered exhausted, meaning there's nothing else for
them to count. But your first vote still counts. We're
not starting over at zero in every round.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
We're just adding vote totals to the initial vote totals.
So if you choose not to.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
If you find the other candidates so objectionable, then you
only has that one ballot. Yeah, you're not going to
matter in round two, three, and four. But that's on you,
the voter, not the system. That's your choice. By the way,
I'm not knocking that there are certain candidates I cannot
bring myself to vote for. There was a Republican candidate
in Douglas County I did not vote for, So I

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get it.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
I understand that, But it doesn't mean your first vote's
not going to count. So there's a lot of.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
Miss It's amazing to me that the misinformation that is
allegedly about ranked choice voting is actually.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
The most complicated.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
Part about ranked choice voting. The misinformation is making it
seem a lot more complicated than it actually is. When
we get back, we're going to talk to a young
leftist who has left the Democratic Party because well, I
think his rose colored glasses got ripped off the same
way a lot of ours did. But I think this
is the sign of a bigger issue for the party
system going forward.

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Speaker 5 (33:04):
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Speaker 7 (33:13):
I swear we're gonna have to do like a little
bit on rank choice voting every single show, because there's
so many good questions about this and I don't have
time to address them right now, because joining me is
a young man who was very active, an up and comer,
a massive sort of volunteer for the Democratic Party until
fairly recently when he decided to take his philosophical marbles

(33:38):
and go home. And joining me now is Adrian Felix.
And Adrian I put at the bottom of my blog today,
and I do an amazing.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Blog every day.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
I put it at the bottom of the blog today,
your interview with John Caldera at the Independence Institute and
from his show to my show.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (33:54):
First of all, yes, thank you so so much for
having me. I've been looking forward to the conversation all week.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Well I'm going to start I'm not this This next
question is definitely not to throw you under the bus,
okay at all. But I reached I reached out to you.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
Maybe a couple of years ago via Twitter, and I said, Hey,
I'd really like to have someone who is way across
the aisle from me I'm paraphrasing, to come on the
show and talk about some issues. And you said that
sounds very intriguing. Let me get back to you. I
got to check with some people, and I assumed you
met party people that you were working with because you
were very active in the Democratic Party, and then it

(34:30):
just kind of fell off a cliff. So I'd love
I'd love to know, first of all, like what was
that fell off a cliff because you were asked not
to or or you just decided it wasn't something you
were interested in.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
No, so I was absolutely interested.

Speaker 9 (34:48):
Just you know, for some context in my background, I've
worked in broadcasts for eleven years. I started in these talks,
so I'm certainly not scared of a microphone or speaking
my mind. In this case, that Democratic Party has very
strict rules about who was allowed to actually go on broadcast,
and the only person that they want to speak or.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
To do that type of stuff is the chair. At
the time, I was not the chair, so I was
told no, okay.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
I kind of thought that maybe was what happened, because
you and I had a fairly robust exchange there for
a moment, and I was hopeful that and in all honesty, Adriane,
I would still be open to that, because I want
to be clear with my listeners, this is not a
case of Adrian being red pilled and all of a
sudden becoming a maga republican, Right, That's not what we're
talking about, right, How would you describe yourself politically?

Speaker 9 (35:38):
So I would absolutely describe myself as a progressive. I
think that the Democratic Party has certainly, within the last
few months, have kind of moved much more right. I
think that they're trying to gain a voter that certainly
is not me.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
You know, And I don't want to go down the
same path as John Caldera did, but we have to
do a little bit of this, just sort of lay
the foundation a little bit, and you expressed frustration and
again to my listeners, I actually invented that interview because
I think it's very interesting I'm just really really interesting
to hear from someone who is so far across the
political spectrum. And I consider myself at this point to

(36:15):
be center right. I cannot identify with the right of
the people running the Republican Party right now in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
I too, am an independent. Now, what was.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
The final straw for you that made you say being
a part of this party is okay even if you
yourself still hold those progressive ideals that the Democratic Party
says they do too.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
At the beginning of I believe it was July, the
Colorado Democratic Central Committee had a resolution proposed that was
about making a safe fire resolution for the conflict in
Israel and Palace side.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
I was very much for it.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
I thought that based off of, you know, the platform
of the Colorado Democratic.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Party, that this should be a shoe in. They rejected it,
and it was kind of the last straw for me.

Speaker 9 (37:13):
Obviously, things have been building for a while. They discontinue
to kind of maneuver.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Right, push right, push the left out. But that was
truly like the final straw for me.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
You know what's funny is that if you listen, if
I sat you down at a table with any of
my listeners say, you've a handful or smaller group of
people on the left that do listen because they love
to hate me, which I'm fine with, by the way,
but they would all say, are.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
You kidding me?

Speaker 7 (37:39):
The Colorado Democratic Party is moving to the right, because
all they know is that since twenty nineteen, when the
Democrats have really taken over running Colorado, we've had just
a lot of stuff come down the pike that is
not right at all, whether it's oil and gas register,
you know, regulations, whether it's kind of nanny statism when

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it comes to landlords and things of that nature. They
pass a lot of stuff that have made everything more
expensive here. So where do you see them other than
this Israeli palestinny issue? Where do you see them moving
to the right or moving away from the left progressive
area that you would have it?

Speaker 9 (38:20):
You know, I think that a lot of that has
to do with, let's say, the way that they view taxation,
you know, proposition HH. Last year, I was very dead
set against it. I thought that it was probably one
of the least progressive things.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
That we can do in the face of the eviction
crisis that Colorado was facing. I don't think the data
shows that.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
Homeowners are really the ones that are that are, you know,
being pushed out of their homes with foreclosure. It was
kind of watching them maneuver that situation to say, hey,
we know people are becoming unhoused to our renters, but
we'd like to take your taper refund in order to
you know, off that the cost of giving these people

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a property.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Tax quote unquote.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
To me, that was that was very much right. But
I think that it's also unsurprising given the fact that
our governor Jared Poulis, you know, in twenty eighteen, ran
as a progressive, but at the end of the day
truly is not. And I think that that's reflective over
the last six years.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
I did hear you say something that I wanted to
agree with you one hundred percent in your interview with
John Caldera, and that is Jared Pulis is a liar.
So I heard you say that, and I was like,
I high five to you in my mind, Adrian, because
we are in aggrievement on that. But I want to
ask you because I think you were your defection from
the Democratic Party as a young left leaner, and I'm
going to put you in the hard left category. I

(39:41):
have to because that's where my audience needs needs the
context because you you are a hard left individual. You
supported Tim Hernandez and Elizabeth Epps in their re election campaign,
So you I mean, I would would you say you're
on the hard left.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Of the of the Left Party?

Speaker 4 (39:59):
I would say I.

Speaker 9 (40:00):
I would say that I've come a long way from
being a well county boy. Denver has certainly radicalized me,
and I would say that I'm certainly far.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
Less so when you talk about these issues with other
young people, because how old are you, Adrian, what do
you I'm guessing you can't.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
I'm very young looking thirty four, okay, perfect.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
But that's You're still a millennial, right, You're still a millennial.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (40:22):
When you talk to people who believe the same way
you do, are they disillusioned with the party as well?
Are we seeing the beginning of young people turning their
back on the two party system?

Speaker 9 (40:33):
Well, you know, I think that it's not a general
thing for young people. But what I will say is
that data shows that young men my age are the
ones who are choosing to defect.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Young men your age. That's very interesting.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
Well, you know what, though, I think that makes sense.
What is driving them away?

Speaker 9 (40:50):
You know, there's a discussion right now that that what
they think it is, and I disagree with this, is
that Democratic politics is to female focused or women focused
in terms of their policy agenda, which I.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Know, for in my own case just certainly isn't the case.
You know, abortion access is on the ballot. I'm happy
to support people who.

Speaker 9 (41:11):
Want that, that's fine, But for me, it's about the
investment of am I as a thirty four year old
man ever going to be able to be in the
position to own a home, to have a family, to
have good health insurance. Right, it's more of the economics
of it than I think anything else.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
That's really interesting.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
I mean, I mean that's just because obviously the Democratic
Party has been the party of women for a long
time in terms of pushing.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Those issues to the forefront.

Speaker 7 (41:42):
So maybe they've pushed them a little too far to
the forefront, is what I'm hearing.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
You know, I think that's definitely the case.

Speaker 9 (41:49):
But I mean, even with you know, Kamala Harris running,
and you know, there's a discussion about that black men
are leaving the Democratic Party. So they put forth an
agenda that is quite frankly very clueless to the needs
and the desires of young men like you know, to
sit here and say, well, we're going to protect your
cryptocurrency access if I can't even afford a home, Like,

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how clueless do you have to be, you know, to
think that that is a priority of young black men
or young men across the spectrum.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
Are you all bothered by that sort of identity politics
that misses the mark for those various identities, Well.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Yes, when it misses the mark.

Speaker 9 (42:31):
Now, imagine Kamala Harris had said, I really want to
focus on, you know, making our justice system a little
bit more equitable, or.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Doing something about the death penalty.

Speaker 9 (42:41):
As we know, you know, a black man was unjustly
murdered by the state just weeks ago. Those things are
on topic, and in our face cryptocurrency it's so off
the mark that it's offensive. Right, So if they if
they do it right, by.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
All means, but when they do it wrong, it really
just blows up.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
And I mean.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Kamala Harris was ratioed, you know, on Twitter for it.
She's certainly getting that backlash.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
What do you think.

Speaker 7 (43:05):
About the way Kamala Harris was elevated to the candidacy.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
So you know, to be fair, I did turn in
a primary ballot before the Democratic ticket. I was an
uncommitted delegate. You know, she wasn't on the ballot I
turned in. To my knowledge, no one in this country.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Voted for her.

Speaker 9 (43:27):
To me, it's it's very much the democratic establishment doing
what they do best. And it's exactly why I think
I've chosen to take a step back, like you cannot
tell me that you are for democracy and then go
over everyone in this country that she was a candidate
that you think is best.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
That's not democracy.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
Amen to that again. Second thing, we're in agreement on Adrian.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
We're on a roll. Let's go. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
You know, it sounds in the interview with John Caldera
you go into this a little a little bit, but
it sounds like you you have become very disillusioned by
hard is by party politics. And I say it like
that because here's a news flash that may make you
feel better or worse. Same thing on the right, right,
it's just different, but it's the same when it comes

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to the inside inner workings of the party.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
That seems to be where your issue is.

Speaker 9 (44:17):
Right, I think at a fundamental core when I look
at my desires for the future of this country and
then the Democratic Party and not necessarily what they say
they're going to do, but what I watch them do,
it's not the same. And so there's a point where
I had to really reconcile that what I desire for

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the world isn't the same agenda as theirs, and I
have to make do with that.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
I have to take that for what it is. But
with that said, then they have to understand that it's
not going to be my worth, my time and investment
to support them.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
How many hours a week do you think you were
given to the party before you step back?

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Oh my gosh, it's fantastic question. I would say that
I probably got back maybe forty hours.

Speaker 9 (45:05):
A month of my life. And you know, let me
say this. My sister recently passed in April.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 9 (45:10):
So you know, it's been a very tough time. But
that said, that lack of energy towards Democratic politics has
really been put towards myself and my family and the
people that I love, and I think that's a good
thing and I'm seeing the benefit.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
Of that good I'm sorry you lost your sister, and
I'm glad that you are, you know, using this time
to move forward. But I will tell you there's a
lot of people, me included, because I have been professionally
watching politics for twenty years almost now with this job
and now I watched politics before, but professionally watching politics,
and I am as cynical as you can possibly be.

(45:49):
There are there are maybe three politicians at the federal
level that I trust with any sort of you know, veracity,
and the rest of it is tell me what you're
going to tell me, and I know that you're going
to do something completely different. I know that when you're
out there running for office, you're saying whatever you need
to say to get elected. But it's up to me

(46:10):
as the voter to try and figure out who's lying more.

Speaker 10 (46:13):
Now.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
The reason I say all that.

Speaker 7 (46:15):
Is because ultimately I still play in the sandbox, you
know what I'm saying. So you can't take your marbles
and go home. So what do you do with this now?

Speaker 5 (46:24):
What do you do with where you are? And how
do you move forward?

Speaker 7 (46:26):
Because I know you're still actively engaged somehow.

Speaker 9 (46:30):
Sure, So I think it's really about giving time and
energy the candidates that I support as well as initiatives.
You know, I turned in my ballot yesterday, and let
me be very clear, there is a lot of blank
spaces in terms of the candidates, right, but I also
got to really focus and on the issues.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
That are on the back right. And that was, you know,
a way for.

Speaker 9 (46:53):
Me to still feel like I'm engaged and I understand
what's going on, but also put my energy towards the
thing that I know and care about.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
It's I if I see you're a candidate, and I
can I think I'm at a point in my own.

Speaker 9 (47:06):
Political career where I can spot it a mile away
who's a liar and who's not. If I get that sense,
you're not going to get my time.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
So are you are Are there progressive not Democratic organizations
that you can be a part of, or you know,
are you going to be moving forward in any formal
way with creating a space for progressives who no longer
believe the Democratic Party is aligning with their values.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
You know, it's a great question.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
Since I've unaffiliated from the Democratic Party. I was approached
by the Democratic Socialists of America and in particular the
Denver chapter.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
You know, again, it's like I have to be able to.

Speaker 9 (47:48):
View your organization and your agenda and also see you
doing the work to make it to make me believe
that it's going to be worthwhile for me. At this point,
I can say that I haven't seen that within any
other progressive organization in Colorado, whether that be the Democratic.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Socialists of Colorado or you.

Speaker 9 (48:06):
Know, the Green Party. I would say that neither of
those organizations have done enough or have proven to me
as a voter and an activist that it would be
worthy of my time.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
What are the biggest issues for you?

Speaker 7 (48:17):
Everybody has their issues that they're all up and for me,
it's the national debt. I am horrified by it every
time I think about it. What are the things that
drive you those issues?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
You know?

Speaker 9 (48:28):
I think that first and foremost for me, my biggest
issue is taxation. Yeah, it really is the driving force between,
you know, what we can accomplish and what we don't accomplish.
As a progressive, I am a true believer that if
we wish to accomplish any type of agenda item, it
should become at the hands of the rich and the wealthy.
The Democratic Party will tell you that's what they believe,

(48:50):
but that's necessarily not necessarily how they'll vote, so you know,
taxation is absolutely up there. I would probably also say
environmental issues, being a Weld County boy.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
Okay, So on the taxation issue especially, I have a
feeling you and I are as far apart as anyone
could be, because my view is is that if you
unleash the American economy, then there's more tax money coming
in and things of that nature. That being said, when
you talk about taxation for the rich, I mean you
have to know how much the top ten percent of

(49:21):
income tax payers pay, right of the total composition of
income taxes. I mean, you know what the percentage already is.
What is the percentage that the top one percent should
pay of their income?

Speaker 5 (49:32):
In your mind?

Speaker 9 (49:34):
Well, you know, I mean even within that top one percent, Like,
there's obviously a difference between a Jared Polis and then
Elon Musk in terms of well right, So to me,
it's like Jared Polis, while we should be taxing him
fairly as small potatoes, and from what I've seen in
this taxes, he really doesn't pay that much. But Elon Musk, like,
we could probably take half of his wealth.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
And then I promise you that man will be fine, well, I'd.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
Urge you to look and see what's happening in Norway
because Norway. And I know this sounds like a curve ball,
but I literally just read about this for like three hours.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Norway actually passed the.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
Unrealized capital gains taxes that Kamala Harris was talking about.
They passed a wealth tax on unrealized gains. And what
has happened is that the millionaires and billionaires are simply
leaving Norway.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
They're just moving.

Speaker 7 (50:21):
And so, I mean there are certain things about that
kind of supposition, which sounds great, but the reality is
people will react accordingly. They're not just going to sit
and take it. Elon Musk is not going to give
you half of his wealth. It's just not gonna happen.
So when we talk about things like that, this is
why I want to have you on the show on
a regular basis, Adria, And like, we choose an issue

(50:41):
and we have a discussion about those issues because I
think you're good at expressing your viewpoint and I think
we can have a conversation that would be very illuminating
where a we could have a better I bet we
agree on things that we probably would not necessarily think
that we would agree on because ultimately I believe and
I hope you believe this about me, even though it

(51:02):
might be, you know, anathema to think that people on
the ride are not the devil. I want the best
for this country. I want the best for the people
in this country, and I believe.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
That you do too.

Speaker 9 (51:13):
Yes, so I'm certainly open to it, you know, coming
on today, you know, being this the first time, I
think as an activist within within the Democratic.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Party, I think my attitudewards, my attitude towards.

Speaker 9 (51:28):
This type of thing was very different. But to be
quite frank, and I'm going to say this way, now
that the chains are broken, I feel much more comfortable
and willing to maybe see things differently. Right, I think
that democratic politics makes it as career as possible, that
it's adversarial, that people are opponents and enemies. I because

(51:48):
I'm away from that kind of environment, I feel differently
about it.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
Well, I'd love to have you on the show because
we're out of time now, but let's you and I
schedule this. We're going to come on. We'll do some topics.
We'll do me and Adrian, not Mandy versus Adrian. Mandy
and Adrian having a conversation and maybe we can change
the tone and tenor about these discussions because they're all
critically important, right, They're all critically important, and to reduce

(52:14):
them to nasty sound bites is not getting us anywhere. So,
Adrian Felix, I appreciate you taking the time today to
come on and talk about this. I look forward to
having discussions with you in the future, and as a
newly fellow registered independent, welcome to the soon to be
majority party here in Colorado.

Speaker 9 (52:32):
Absolutely, I'm having a great time and thank you so
much for having me.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
All Right, that's Adrian Felix, and we will be right back.
Reaction on the text line to Adrian is mixed, but
I'm happy to say most of you are like, wow,
it's kind of interesting. That was a better interview, says
this Texter than I expected. I don't agree with his side,
but he was well spoken and could get his points
across better than most.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
It's amazing when you're not in.

Speaker 7 (52:58):
A political fight, how you're capable of having a conversation
where you can disagree, right, I mean, and so, like
I said, that is that is something we will make happen.
So I tried to have him on before because his
X feed is very flamethrowery on occasion, but he also

(53:19):
explains his positions on.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
X as well.

Speaker 7 (53:23):
So there you go, Mandy, as a seventy four year
old conservative from Colorado's Springs, I found your conversation with
Adrian the liberal enlightening. I'm always interested to hear what
the other side thinks, why they think that part of
my nature as a former intelligence officer, so we will
do more than that. Then there's also if that Clorox

(53:44):
commercial plays again, I'm going to need Clorox to clean
my brains off the wall. That's totally unrelated, totally unrelated.
So we will have him back on to talk about issues,
and I figure we'll do it like this. We'll just say, hey, Adrian,
today we're going to talk about taxation. We'll probably start
with that because we kind of dipped our toe into it,
and then we'll I'll send him a few kind of

(54:06):
questions that we can bounce off of, and then we'll
come on and have a conversation. I am starved to
talk to the other side. I'm it's it's I've I've
had a show in two different plays, three different places,
counting this one. I've never had as challenging a time
getting people on the left to come on my program
as I have here. Ever, it's even in Louisville, where

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there was a big schism between the left and the right,
it was easier to get people on.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
The left on the show than it is here.

Speaker 7 (54:37):
Oh wait, oh, who's coming on on Friday, Anthony.

Speaker 10 (54:40):
There's a significant chance we very might have the Senator
Michael Bennett there, you go.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
Join us on Friday, TBD.

Speaker 7 (54:47):
So we're working on it because I think it's I
think there's a lot. I don't want to have people
on to argue with him. I don't want to have,
you know, like screaming matches. That's not my jam. I
just don't.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
I'm just not doing that.

Speaker 7 (54:59):
And I want to have discussions though, because we can't
keep doing what we're.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
Doing and expect a different result.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
We can't just keep standing on either sides of the chasms,
screaming at each other and throwing rocks.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
We cannot do that. We have to be able to.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
Have conversations in the hopes that we can find areas
of agreement to use as little islands in the stream,
you know, to build some solutions that would work for
both sides, not just one. So anyway, Mandy, funny how
folks think they have a right to live a certain place.

(55:37):
If you can't afford an area, move where you can
afford it work.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Thirty nine years.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
As a firefighter, could never afford to live where I worked.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Not a politician's job. So there you go. It's a
mixed bag, but most of you are saying good.

Speaker 7 (55:50):
I'm interested to see these conversations going forward.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Now.

Speaker 7 (55:53):
I've got a lot of other stuff on the blog.
To a rod, I forgot this until right now. So
one day when you were out, a listener asked me
if if I did any kind of rankings or any
kind of information about haunted houses in the area, and
I said, not me, but one mystery, Anthony Rodriguez, I
can help you with this. How many haunted houses are

(56:14):
you planning on going to? I know you're super busy
right now.

Speaker 10 (56:16):
Yeah, this season, probably just the two the one we've
already done.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
We need to the two we do every single.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
That was Anderson did you do Anderson Farms?

Speaker 9 (56:24):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (56:25):
Or in the corn and Anderson Farms, And then the
one that's we're gonna chat about later today that I
also have been a spare a scare actor at a
couple of years ago.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
I remember when we had Dave Lauer.

Speaker 10 (56:34):
We we couldn't able to arrange be scaring the crap
out of him in person. But the thirteen floor Haunted
House as well, those two are the locks.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Every year we.

Speaker 10 (56:42):
Try to find if there's a couple other extra ones.
I know there's the one in Ilitch's. There's a couple
other ones out there, but those are the two every year.

Speaker 7 (56:49):
Those are the two bangers right there, Okay, And I
said an ask, so well, I'm not I'm not going
I don't like to be startled.

Speaker 10 (56:56):
They're out of this world. They're immaculate sets, the actor
are fantastic.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
They do this. I think this work will have to confirm.

Speaker 10 (57:03):
I think they do this work on these things year
round because they are just unreal. They are almost too
good in the sense that there are the jump scares,
but you're almost kind of distracted and kind.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Of just at all at awe of the sets that
they build and all the cool stuff.

Speaker 10 (57:22):
You're like, oh, it's scare, But I was cook at
that really cool giant bloody farm thing. Going on with
that weird, weird contorting like set.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
It's it's it's insane.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
They do such awesome work, and I still get jump scared,
but I'm a bit desensitized to it, having now done
the scare acting and and done these so many times.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
But every now and then I'll get a little one.

Speaker 10 (57:45):
I go, thank you, because it's hard to get me
these days.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
I'm good.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
I don't like being I don't like people jumping out
at me. Sometimes will come around the corner fast and
I'm you know, there's a there's a very old Bugs
Buddy cartoon and it is a little cat. It's a cat,
and then they get a puppy. Right, so every time
the cat is trying to just eat his breakfast or something,
just saying the cup, puppy comes up right up behind

(58:10):
me and the cat goes up to the ceiling.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Yes, that's pretty much me. That's that's my story. I
don't like it, Bill to have a video of you
through these.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
I am not doing it. I have done it in
the past for radio. I am not doing it again.
I don't enjoy it. I don't like it. I will
never repel down anything again. I've already done.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
It, it's dangerous.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
A couple of times, Oh well, trust me, the repelling
was entertaining to.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Those on the ground.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
You almost never say no to me, I'm I kind of.

Speaker 7 (58:46):
Last time I said no, I ended up with an
interview with Mike Lindell from my pillow and we all
know how that went.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
Yeah, you said no, and then he still did it.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
So, because I is the haunted, how is going to
be here? No, it's not.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
So there's no way unless you kidnap me, throw me
in the back of your car and take me there
and then force me in at gunpoint.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
I'm not going. I'm not going now, trust me.

Speaker 7 (59:09):
Chuck knows that when I absolutely draw a line in
the sand, it's it's in concrete.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Okay, sand the line? Do you want to hear my?

Speaker 7 (59:22):
I have a The only time I've ever almost cursed
on the air.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
So we're at Universal Studios.

Speaker 7 (59:29):
I was a producer for this guy show on this
hot talk station, and we had briefly dated and we
weren't dating anymore, which was fine, But I had gone
out to Universal Studios Halloween Horror Nights ahead of time,
worked with an engineer to make sure the microphone would
go through the haunted House, the wireless to make sure everything.
So I'd put a lot of work into this because
they thought it'd be really funny to.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
Put me through the haunted House.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
And I was like gripping the entire time thinking about it.
But I'm gonna take one for the team. It's a
radio show. This will be a good bit. We're gonna
make it happen, right. So I'm feeling a little like
clammy and panicky the entire night because I know I
have to do this. And right before I'm like psyching
myself up to do this, I'm like build, I'm girding
my loins so I can go do it. And I

(01:00:13):
go to pick up the wireless mic that we had
and he goes, oh, no, no, no, she's gonna do
it his new girlfriend, who was not a radio person.
And I was so irritated that he let me twist
in the wind the entire night because he knew he
was going to do that. If he had just told
me at the beginning of the show, I would have
been like, fine, that is fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
But he let me grip the entire night. And I
walked into a room that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
Was behind the studio that faces the street at Universal
did not know there was a hot mic there and
expressed my frustration with the host in a way.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
There's some PTSD here, yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
So what you're saying is this could be years later,
past it with a new fresh No. I'm on the experience.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
I'm fine. The great people fine.

Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
The great people at the thirteenth floor, and tear in
the corn would really help you move past that and
heal for once and for all. I am fine, for
the great of you, for the good of Mandicind. I
am aokay, Dave Tepper, if you're listening, we need to
make this happen.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
He is on the way to New Orleans. He can't
hear you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
On the contrary, I bet he's stop it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
He is not listening. He's having fun.

Speaker 10 (01:01:20):
I know what time their flight is. I know when
he's listening, and I know he'd help me convince you.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
This person says, will you skydive? Not until none time,
not until I'm eighty.

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
Did you know yeah that you don't need a parachute
to go skydiving.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
You need a parachute to go skydiving.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Twice on that note, let's say quick time out when
we come back, Jared Polis gets his revenge on oil
and gas. I'll explain after this big news. Colorado has
adopted more rules to make oil and gas exploration, which
is a very very important industry for our economy, much

(01:02:01):
much harder. Did you guys even know that the what
did it? Used to be called? Hang on.

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
This board that used to be in charge of advocating
the Colorado Oil and Gas Advisory Board. They used to
advocate for oil and gas development. Well they've now been
changed into wait for it, the Colorado Energy and Carbon
Management Commission. They approved all slew of new roles for

(01:02:30):
oil and gas development, and it requires operators to meet
standards that are so stupid, I don't know how they're
going to measure them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Listen to this.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
The rules require operators to meet strict new standards regarding
cumulative impacts of past, present, and future oil and gas
developments to be permitted to develop new mineral resources. That's
beginning December fifteenth of twenty twenty four. The new rules,
they say, define cumulative impacts as the effects on public

(01:03:04):
health and the environment, including the impacts to air quality,
water quality, climate, noise, odor, wildlife, and biological resources caused
by the incremental impacts that a proposed new or amended
operation would have when added to the impacts from other past,
present and future development. According to the Commission, what the

(01:03:25):
blank does that even mean? Apparently oil and gas will
be burdened by what was they will now The reason
I say, Jared Polus got his revenge.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
Do you guys remember?

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
And luckily I linked to it, so if you don't remember,
you can go ahead and check it out for yourself.
Back in twenty thirteen, Jared Polus had to deal with
something that was so awful.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
So so unspeakable, it was terrific.

Speaker 7 (01:03:56):
I don't even know its Feeley survived near his country home. Yeah,
he has a home in Boulder, and then his country
home in Welld County near not right next near his
country home, some fellow landowner decided to bring a fracking
pad and actually have the nerve to drill for oil

(01:04:17):
within sight of Jared Polus's vacation home.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
He said he had become a refugee from his vacation home.
Yes indeed, my friends, Yes indeedy as a matter of fact,
that's a quote. He filed suit.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
He alleged that the mental suffering and loss of enjoyment
he experienced makes his family a refugee family for the
time being.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
This is from the actual actual quotes here.

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
For the time being, however, Marlon Reese and his daughter
are living instead at Police's home in Boulder. Police said,
they're kind of refugees from our own property with very
little recourse. One of the things these new rules do
is they increase the setbacks, the same setbacks, by the

(01:05:10):
way that were I don't know, shot down by voters
years ago, and now they have expanded the setbacks in
around certain communities.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
This is going to be a disaster.

Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
I'll be surprised if the Oil and Gas Commission or
or somebody doesn't sue, because they're just getting into absurdity.
You're going to have to decide and let us know
how the past, present and future impacts of this particular
operation added to the past, present and future impacts of
all of your other operations, so we can decide whether

(01:05:45):
or not you get to provide the energy that fuels
our entire economy. I mean, why would you even want
to do business here? Why would you even when there's
work in Montana, Wyoming, Texas to be had. They hate
oil and gas and they're just going to shut the
industry down. And when we don't have those tax dollars

(01:06:07):
coming in, good luck on the rest of the things
that they're spending money on.

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Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
Every once in a while I get an email saying, hey,
are the lyrics to your theme song published anywhere? When
I get down with the show today, I will put
them on my Facebook page. Mandy Connell, Just find the
Facebook page and I'll pin that post so you can
have them, and then I can just direct people there.
I hadn't thought about doing that. I want to play
a little bit of audio for you because apparently across

(01:07:04):
the country we are having some kind of breakout of
wild imagination?

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
What am I talking about? Listen to this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
What started out as a robbery crew upwards of fifty robberies.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Twenty individuals arrested.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
For upwards of fifty robberies, with an out of those
twenty individuals, every single one of them is on the
streets today, so it's crazy.

Speaker 11 (01:07:27):
Now there are reports that they're operating in the Roosevelt Hotel,
which used to be a very nice hotel in New
York City. Now it's a migrant shelter. What are we
talking about? What's going on inside this hotel that is
now spilling out as in the Times Square area.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Yeah, I mean there's actually a recruitment process.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
And guess what they're talking about. If you guessed Venezuelan game,
trendy Agara, trend Ragua, you guessed right.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
There's just a breakout of crazy amountation going on all
over the country because we've been infested with a gang
from Venezuela who walked across the southern border unfettered because
of the policies of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Now,
I got a bunch of stories, but I didn't want
to do the two minute drill because I want to
go a little bit deeper than they did. A rod
will you here the day that we talked about the

(01:08:18):
story of the dog that was found on the side
of the road before Hurricane Milton tied to a stake
and the dog was up to its chest in water already,
and highway patrolman stopped and got the dog, whose name
is now Trooper, and America was outraged that some scumbag
would do this. Where it's yeah, good news. The scumbag
is now facing multiple charges.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Gag, Oh yeah they did.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
Nice.

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
Giovanni Garcia will be charged with aggravated animal cruelty, which
is a third degree felony punishable by up to five
years in prison. According to the State Attorney's Office, Garcia
told police he abandoned his dog Jumbo while on his
way to Georgia because he couldn't find any one to
pick the dog up.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
Now, you guys, this is hilarious.

Speaker 7 (01:09:08):
After arriving at an animal shelter to claim the dog,
he said he would surrender ownership if.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
It would be taken care of and loved. Says the guy.
Now here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
If you are in a situation where you feel like
you have to turn your animals loose for whatever reason, right,
the last thing you're gonna do is tie him to
a damn pole in a ditch. Obviously, Trooper is being
adopted by someone else, so well, he's not going to

(01:09:42):
be completely adoptable for months. He's very, very stressed and
still decompressing. A lot of people have reached out to
adopt Trooper, but he will not be going home with
his scumbag owner who tied him to a stake to
drown in Hurricane Milton. I want to talk about this story.
I want to get this in. This is kind of

(01:10:03):
a big deal. And I know we've talked about this before,
but you guys, this is really really bad what's happening
with media, And it's entirely their fault, right, It's entirely
one hundred percent of self inflicted wound by the mass media.
The polling on trust in media has fallen to a

(01:10:24):
new low. According to a Gallop survey, More Americans listen
to this More Americans say they have a great deal
or fair amount of trust in Congress, the Supreme Court,
local and state governments, and the executive branch than they

(01:10:45):
do the media. As of this year, only thirty one
percent of Americans say they have a great deal or
fair amount.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
Of trust in the mass media.

Speaker 7 (01:10:56):
That's down from thirty two percent last year, which tied
the record low set in twenty sixteen. At the same time,
the percentage of Americans who say they are have not
very much trust in the media has risen from twenty
seven percent in twenty twenty to thirty three percent in
twenty twenty four. Prior to two thousand and four, more

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than half of the American population consistently said they trusted
the media. A smaller percentage in twenty twenty four said
they had no trust in the media. That went down
to thirty six percent compared to last year's thirty nine percent.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
But I love this from Axios reality Check.

Speaker 7 (01:11:37):
The Trump era drove record levels of division between Republicans
and Democrats regarding media trust, but that gap is starting
to close slightly amid trust declines from Democrats and independence.
The way that they just wrote this, the Trump era
drove record levels of division. How about the media behavior

(01:12:01):
during the Trump era? Continuing to Now, you know, I
didn't really talk about it because I don't really care.
I don't think most Americans care about Kamala Harris's plagiarism situation.
I just don't think Americans care that you steal stuff
from other people. Now, I just think we're at a
point where our society is so degraded, where a sense
of honor about your work is no longer a thing

(01:12:23):
people expect or require, which is incredibly sad. But I
mean that's where we are, right. I didn't talk a
lot about it, but boy howdy, the news media, like
the New York Times worked double time to let us
know two things.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
Number one, you know what, we had.

Speaker 7 (01:12:40):
Our pleasure as an expert look at it, and they
were like, it's so small.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
It's like tiny baby plagiarism.

Speaker 7 (01:12:46):
It's like it's like the lowest level of plagiarizing that
you can do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
So really, is it? Is it a big deal at all?
Is it? No? No, it's not.

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
And now the New York Times, I have this story
on the blog today. They ran a story, a guest
essay that purported to show that sixty five doctors, nurses
and paramedics what we saw in Gaza, that's what it
was called. And they tried to demonstrate that Gosen children

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were being shot in the head by Israeli soldiers, which
would be horrific, horrific. We already know that some terrible,
terrible crimes have taken place at the hands of some
Israeli soldiers, but this goes well beyond that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
And they used these quote X rays.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
Allegedly of children's heads, and in these quote X rays
they allegedly showed five, five six rounds bullets in these
kids' heads.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
Looks terrible. I mean, they're just sitting right there.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Except this has been deep jumped over and over and
over again by weapons experts, by ballistics experts, by medical examiners,
because when you look at the X rays, and you
can see it when you go to the blog today
at mandy'sblog dot com, there's no entry wounds, there's no
exit wounds, and all of the bullets are laying perfectly sideways.

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Kind of looks like you laid somebody's head down on
top of a bullet and then took an X ray.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
So all of these people have come.

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
Out to say, Nope, we're not doing it. That's completely fabricated.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
People have posted X rays of.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
People who have actually been shot in the head, and
the difference is not even remotely. I mean, they're just
so it's so obvious that this is a lie. And
yet The New York Times published This.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
Time's Opinion, rigorously edited this guest essay before publication, verifying
the accounts and imagery through supporting photographic and video evidence.
And file metadata.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
We have also vetted the doctors and nurses credentials, including
that they had traveled to and worked in Gaza as claimed.
When questions arose about the veracity of images included in
the essay, we did additional work to review our previous findings.
We stand behind this essay and the research underpinning it.
Any implication that its images are fabricated is simply false.

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What they don't mention is that the person who wrote
it is a long time anti Israel activist, but they
don't think that's important to mention either. This, my friends,
is why we hate the media. I got a text
message that said Trump has been calling the media liars
for eight plus years and if you just dialed in,
Gallup is showing that trust in the media is the

(01:15:41):
lowest it's ever been, and people think they trust Congress
and the Supreme Court more than they trust media. They said,
Trump has been calling the media liars for eight plus years,
and as followers run with that, Okay, that is from
a person who maybe just checked in when Donald Trump
got elected. Because if you have, I haven't been paying
attention to media bias. I would direct your attention back

(01:16:03):
to Bernie Goldberg's book Bias, written I believe in like
two thousand and three, two thousand and four, after decades CBS.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
News Bernie said, I've had enough. I genuinely think that the.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
Two thousand election broke the media, like it just broke
them when al Gore was lost that election, and he
did lose that election, by the way, do you know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
How I know here's a fun fact.

Speaker 7 (01:16:29):
I realized this many years later, that this story didn't
really make it out of Florida. But after the election
was said and done, George Bush's President of the United States,
The Miami Herald, the Tampa Bay no the Saint Petersburg Times,
the Miami Herald, and two other news organizations ponied up
several hundred thousand dollars due to a hand account of

(01:16:49):
the Florida ballots.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
And you know what they found, George W.

Speaker 7 (01:16:51):
Bush one And those were not, you know, right leaning organizations.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
But I digress.

Speaker 7 (01:16:57):
But that election, when al Gore did not, when that
broke the media. Ever since then, they've been a pretty
reliable arm of the Democratic Party. Maybe not as blatant
as they have been since twenty sixteen, but if you
go back and look at the reporting of the Russian
collusion story. Now we know in hindsight, we know that

(01:17:18):
members of the intelligence community would leak something to the
Washington Post, and then the Washington Post would call that
same person or someone else as an anonymous source to confirm.

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
The rumor that they had none of which was true.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
As far as I know, the Washington Posts and the
New York Times have never given back to politzers they
got for their coverage of the entirely fabricated Russian collusion story.
It was so blatant and so horrible and so awful
that people were forced to go, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
What, You're absolutely right.

Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
I mean, look at what we've seen during the moderations
of these debates, when Jake tapped and data bash are
the gold standard of this election cycle.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
How far have we fallen?

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
And the reason I keep bringing this stuff up is
because we must have a functioning arm of journalistic integrity
to hold government and government players accountable.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
And right now they're all going to the same Christmas parties.

Speaker 7 (01:18:23):
So I asked on the blog today, like, what would
have to happen to make you trust the media again?

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
What would have to occur? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
I don't know, Mandy, that's a long thing about Yep, yep, Mandy. Okay,
I'm gonna I'm gonna read this because we're not to
go to break and I want to read this just
for a second. On Monday show, you were spot on
about the rose in Colorado. At that time, I was
between Lyneman and Burlington. It was like driving in a pasture.

(01:18:57):
Since Monday, I've driven on three other highways, the worst
being Highway to eighty seven between Lamar and Lyman. It's
a death trap, mostly caused by the inconsiderate semi drivers.
On your show and over the road driver said that
he would go two hundred miles out.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Of his way to avoid Colorado roads.

Speaker 7 (01:19:15):
Please do and take all the other semis that are
tearing up our roads and being so inconsiderate. Our roads
are unsafe. Can our leaders at see Dot and their
boss be charged with neglect? I think they should be.
But as for semis, if you don't want anything in
your stores to buy, get the semis off the road.
Semis bring every single thing to our stores, every single thing.

(01:19:41):
They are the final mile. So I wish they drove
nicely all the time. But in every group there's gonna
be a bad apple. Anyway, We're going to take a
quick time out and when we get back, I have
do we have a do we have another guest here?
All the see I blocked it out of my mind

(01:20:02):
because I'm already terrified a great thirteen floor haunted house
coming up next. If you have not looked at today's blog,
there is so much stuff on today's blog.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
It is not even funny.

Speaker 7 (01:20:12):
And the blogs lately have been absolutely chock.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Full, not just the political stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
Right if you missed the beginning of the show, you
don't know why.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
We can't have Ty Spicy. It's on the blog today.

Speaker 7 (01:20:23):
But I want to talk about this story really quickly
because return to office RT mandates are becoming more and
more frequent, and somebody started to study what these mandates
are all about.

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:20:35):
I think it's a combination of things. I think it
is a combination of people paying for expensive offices and
wanting to use said expensive offices.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
I think that's part of it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:47):
I also think that when a company is underperforming for
any reason, they look at the lowest hanging fruit to
explain why they are underperforming for any reason. So recent
research led by a pit professor Mark Maw and graduate
student Yuya Ding they found out kind of the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
But they found out one more thing, and that is.

Speaker 7 (01:21:13):
The push for more in office work is more closely
associated with managerial desires for control and a tendency to
attribute organizational underperformance to the workforce rather than evidence based
strategies aimed at enhancing corporate value.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
So let me translate that to you.

Speaker 7 (01:21:32):
That means that there are issues and managers want to
be able to have control over their workforce because ultimately,
and this is not in what he said, but it's
I'm saying it. Ultimately, managers are held responsible for the
performance of the people under them, and if the people
under them are not performing, even if that lack of
performance doesn't really have anything to do with the outcome.

(01:21:56):
And hear me out. We know that there is been
a downturn in some aspects of the economy. We're still
going along quite nicely, but not everything is cooking with gas.
And you talk to people in certain industries, home improvement,
things of that nature, and all of a sudden you've
got things, just things. People are sitting right now waiting

(01:22:20):
to find out what's going to happen next. With the presidency.
I truly believe that, and it happens during every election cycle.
Every single election cycle, people don't make big purchases, Like
think about you right now, what kind of big purchases
do you have to make?

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
If any? Right, we have some.

Speaker 7 (01:22:35):
Big purchases that I'd like to make, but we're not
doing that yet until we pay off our drain lined
you know, repair that we had to pay for. That
was a big chunk of the budget we were not expecting.
But that being said, there are things I'd like to do,
but I'm not doing them yet. And I'd love to
know if you're in that situation. You can text us

(01:22:55):
at five six six nine zero. I'd love to know
if you are holding back, holding fire, waiting to see
what's going to happen next, waiting for interest rates to
go down, because we're pretty sure the Fed is going
to lower interest rates. I believe in November and December
that's when we're expected we're probably going to a quarter
point in each of those cuts.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
Are you waiting for that? Because there's a lot of businesses.

Speaker 7 (01:23:19):
Out there that have zero percent financing now, Graden is
window Center of Littleton as zero percent financing now. So yeah, Mandy,
regarding your blog, could you not link your articles to
sites that require you to sign up in order for
you to read it?

Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
I try not to, but sometimes I forget.

Speaker 7 (01:23:36):
I personally have a lot of subscriptions to a lot
of different news sources, so sometimes I don't always remember
that I'm a subscriber.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
To that website.

Speaker 7 (01:23:45):
But I do try to not do that. So sorry
about that. If I did that to you, My bad.
A lot of times, you can in a couple of days,
you can search that headline of that story and it
will show up in an unpaid fashion. Mandy, how do
you build a culture when everyone is working from home?
That has a great point, Texter, and that really, for me,
is the only compelling argument to get people back into

(01:24:07):
the office, especially when you have newer employees. I can't
imagine being a new employee in a work from home situation.
I just think that would be very, very challenging to
kind of get the lay of the land and understand
how everything goes together in your company.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
So that is an excellent point. I do think for
most people.

Speaker 7 (01:24:26):
The return to office stuff is just about cementing power.
So there you go. We shall see Mandy Home Improvements. Lol,
I can't afford groceries. That's a fair point. That is
a fair point. The price of everything going up has
had a very dampening effect.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
I don't know if you guys heard this.

Speaker 7 (01:24:48):
And this is kind of a nerdy thing, but I
am in full agreement with jd Vance on this particular issue.
We have to figure out some way to manage health
insurance costs. And the only way to truly bring down
health insurance costs is to do two things. Number one,
stop with the mandates, because every mandate that you require

(01:25:10):
and insure to cover is another thing that is going
to have the cost spread across everybody's premiums. And the
thing is is there are ways to manage this by
attaching writers, insurance writers to these policies. If I were
of child bearing agent, I wanted to have maternity coverage,

(01:25:32):
then I could buy that rider. But why at fifty
five postmenapozzle do I need that? There is a zero
percent chance my husband and I are going to get
birth to another child, well zero percent chance he's actually
going to give birth to a child, but you know
what I'm saying, So we have to stop the mandates
that is why buying insurance across state lines with such
a great idea before it was all federalized. Secondarily, we

(01:25:53):
have to bring down the actual cost of healthcare, and
that's not something that's going to happen anytime soon. Well,
there's no will to do it now. Jd Vance made
a suggestion of creating a high risk insurance pool for
people that are high consumers of health care, and this
is true. About five percent of patients in the country

(01:26:16):
are responsible for nearly half of all health care spending.
Let me repeat that to you, five percent of insured
people are responsible for half. Now, if you take that
five percent out of the insurance pool, then insurance drops
for everybody else because now the cost shifting stops. But
what Jadevance was saying is, look, we need to create

(01:26:38):
this high risk insurance pool, and it needs to be
federally subsidized.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
So take those people.

Speaker 7 (01:26:43):
Out of the market, help them get insurance they can
afford for very serious health conditions, so they've got great coverage,
and then everybody else sees their health care costs go
down because there are a fewer very very very sick
people in the insurance pool. I think it's a great idea.
Of course it's being Victoria, but whatever, It's fine, all right.
The man who makes his living scaring people, and not

(01:27:05):
just by the.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
Way he looks. I mean, there's a whole thing that
goes on here.

Speaker 7 (01:27:08):
Nicholas Melton is the GM of the thirteenth floor Hanted House.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
Nicholas, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
Having me, well, I got to ask right away, did
you always dream of working in a spooky business?

Speaker 5 (01:27:21):
Or did you just fall into it?

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
It's so funny, you know, if you would have told
me that I'd be running the biggest, most you know,
well known hanted house in the state, who told me that,
you know, three four or five years ago, would have
told you you're insane. I did absolutely kind of just
fall into it. But it's it's not completely outside of
my wheelhouse as far as my professional experience goes either,

(01:27:44):
if that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Oh yeah, I mean how did you did you? Did
you come how did you come into the haunted house business? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Sure, So I actually launched a entertainment concept down in
Centennial in twenty twenty one, Colt Industry. It's a massive place.
It's like fifty six thousand square feet and I love it.
I launched that for I was there for about two
years or so, and when I decided to move on,
just prior to that, actually thirteenth floor corporate team had
their holiday party there, so I met them. I met

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them all. They were awesome people. They were having more
fun than anyone else there. They really seem to enjoy
Ea Shubber's company, which is sometimes rare in the business world.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
God, I don't happen to work with a rod And when.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
I came back, I just saw an ad for their
class acts throwing GM position, so I took that and
it kind of just morphed into taking over the whole
property for them and managing the hot house as well.

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
How long do you guys spend do you do you
start as soon as this year's haunted House?

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
Do you start working on next year's?

Speaker 10 (01:28:46):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Yeah, absolutely. We do have a couple of off season events.
For instance, we have like a weekend in December called
for Crampus, kind of a holiday themed one, and then
again we do that for Valentine's Day it's called Love Bites,
and then one in the middle of May it's well
halfway to Halloween, which is when we do our blackouts,
which is when we open the Haunted House, but turn
absolutely every single light off inside of it, so you

(01:29:08):
almost have to feel your way through.

Speaker 6 (01:29:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
But after the season ends, just after Trampis and the whole,
the whole kind of company goes dead for a couple
of weeks, we fired up and we are working on
the Haunted House the entire year just to get to
this season.

Speaker 7 (01:29:22):
What is the Do you have a theme every year
or some kind of guiding principle that you build the
Haunted House around.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Absolutely, yeah, so we do. Because we are in corporate,
we have many locations across the country, so some of
the themes. We have three different themes this year within
two hot Hanted Houses. It's kind of confusing, but nonetheless
the themes kind of in basic concept kind of comes
centrally from one of our guys out in Austin, Texas.
And that's just the concept.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
It really is on each individual Haunted House and the
production director and the GM to really take that concept
and bring it to life, whether that's through the set design,
adding or removing things inside the hot house itself, but
also dressing up the actors, dressing up the bodies, makeup,
all that stuff. Kind of goes goes along with the
theme actually everything down to the sense we actually have

(01:30:14):
scented fog, so, for instance, are our theme in the
first house, This here is called nautical nightmare or Captain
or Usty hook is is absconding with people's soul for
of course, and yeah and so, but even the fog
we have in the first house smells like saltwater, like seaweed.
It's it's a very immersive experience intentionally.

Speaker 7 (01:30:35):
How many people do you have working year round, Like,
let's take out the scare actors, let's just talk about
the people who actually construct this.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
How big is your team?

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
It's me and two guys well than the production director,
Ryan McClellan, and then his his tech bones, and so
it's just the three of us that are full time
employed there throughout the year, and every single other person
we have on those grounds is hired seasonally. All my
managers have all been there for years. They all come
back every year. But we we swell up our ranks

(01:31:06):
to about two hundred or so. Right now, I have
on my roster.

Speaker 7 (01:31:10):
Who does the actual constructing of the interior of the
haunted house, Because it's not just you're walking into an
empty room and getting scared. There's like a scene, right,
I mean, you've got a whole like vibe going on.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
Who who creates that?

Speaker 10 (01:31:24):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Absolutely, yeah, that is a Ryan McLellan. Yeah, he was
our production director. We do have He does have like
except tech help, you know, just for extra hands sometimes,
but he is quite literally up their own ladders or
you know, in building sets. We actually just built a
dentist kind of photo hop set up because we wanted
to to bring thirteen four out to the Great American
Beer Festival last weekend. So we had a whole photo

(01:31:46):
out there with a scared actor and a whole dentist
scene that we that we built out of scratch that
we transported down there and then now is back at
the Haunt now and is outside as a photo op
for our guests now. So it's one hundred percent built now. No,
that said, some of the larger pieces, for inch, for instance,
our artiki taro bar that actually was measured here but

(01:32:07):
fabricated in our shop in New Orleans and then shipped
here and then we actually put it together and install it.
So it's a little bit of everything. Okay, if that
makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
So what kind of scares can people expect this year.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Well, so I was actually just talking to you Rod
before we came on here. We actually added something last
year called No Name is Clown Chaos, and what that
is is basically a blackout maze with claustrophobia bags and
clowns with chainsaws chasing you through it. So that one
is not for the faint of heart. I mean, it's

(01:32:42):
that's horrible. That's at the funnest ones to watch people
come out of, because they look like a different person
after they come out of that one. But addition to that,
we also have brand new media escape games too. We
split the Haunted House in half this year, so the
line of the weight and line is much less. And
one really cool thing I wanted to share with you
this year is we have an added bar now. It's
called the Attic. It's a bar inside smack dab in

(01:33:04):
the middle of the Haunted House, so you can actually stop,
pull off for a few, have a seat, have a drink,
and and really kind of take in all that we
have to offer, all the sites, the sounds, the sense
of the fog, and we even have actors kind of
strafing through that bar to scare that you know what
out of you while you're trying to enjoy your drink.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
Well, you know our our my producer, Anthony.

Speaker 7 (01:33:23):
He is an experienced scare actor, but he wants to
maybe try for an audition here and maybe if he
does really well in this audition, maybe you can, you know,
give him a couple of shifts just to scare the
crap out of people.

Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
This Halloween, because he loves that stuff. Me not so much.
So Arod, what are you? What are you bringing to
the audition?

Speaker 6 (01:33:39):
Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

Speaker 10 (01:33:40):
I'm gonna be a clown in this audition for him,
live right now in the air. What's my what's my
clown name? You give me a clown name?

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
Bosiphus James James?

Speaker 10 (01:33:49):
Yeah, I am Bias James Channel. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:33:54):
By the way, okay, overalls, did my name is the
Clownbosiphas James.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
I want to rip apart your skin, where.

Speaker 6 (01:34:04):
Your organs all over my body?

Speaker 10 (01:34:07):
Eat them, have a nice little snacky pot and I'm
gonna send you straight to hell.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Nick Mountain, You're gonna wish you never.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
Met Postifa's James.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
My man, Mamma, you are higher.

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
Now lost a rod to the Haunted House for the season. Fantastic, fantastic.

Speaker 7 (01:34:28):
Yeah, have you already staffed up for the season? I
got a text or say Mandy ask him where someone
would go to apply to work in the Haunted House?

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
You fully staffed already?

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Absolutely? Well, we so we are, but we always you know,
it's we're only halfway through the season, a lot comes up,
so we're constantly hiring throughout for sure. So if anyone
that is interested in either scare acting or a bartending
or events staff, we actually are hiring for parking lot
attendance right now, would be great help that they can
just go to thirteen to four Haunted House dot com.

(01:34:59):
That's also where you can buy tickets there as well.
But right there in the middle of the top of
the page there it says jobs. All of our our
active job listings are right there for you, and we
just kind of go from there.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
Where is the Haunted House and how much does it cost?

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
It is thirty four hundred East fifty second Avenue. That
is Denver, you know, two one sixth and especially off
just right off of excuse me, just wet east, no West.
I was right the first time west of Vazquez on
fifty second avenue and tickets depends on what day of
the week and obviously how close we are to Halloween,
but anywhere from twenty to forty dollars roughly. And obviously

(01:35:35):
we have a bunch of add on stuff like skip
the line passes and you know, the mini escate games
at a bar. You can all pre purchase those online
as well.

Speaker 7 (01:35:43):
Somebody asked if you have a short tour so they
can go straight to the bar.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
Is that a possibility a short tour?

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Well, the thing is, if you just want to go
to the bar, you technically don't have to have a
ticket to come inside and hang out with us. So yeah,
if you just want to come and hang out in
the bar, you're more than welcome to. I was actually
gonna later on the CV, I'm gonna walk Anthony straight
into the bar myself too, So there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
There you go?

Speaker 7 (01:36:06):
Now, Uh, you love to scare people at a haunted house.
I like to scare people by making them play a
game with me, Nick, So if I could just engage you,
because now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
I'm this guyhead.

Speaker 7 (01:36:27):
It doesn't normally sound like that of the day you've
created a monster named Bosephus James wearing overalls. There you go,
I am with Nicholas Melton. You can go to the
thirteenth floor Haunted House. Find out more at thirteenth.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
Floor Haunted House.

Speaker 7 (01:36:41):
And that's A one, A three, A T and an
h Haunted House dot com get your tickets. Now here's
how this works, Nicholas. Hey, Rod's gonna give you a
dad joke right now. You don't have to do anything
but laugh or grown or nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
It's fine. Go ahead. What's our dad joke?

Speaker 10 (01:36:55):
My last house had five foot high ceilings.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
I could stand living there. God, you're so weird. Soop,
Now you're freaking me out. Okay. Now he gives us
a word of the.

Speaker 7 (01:37:10):
Day, which we try and guess the definition of usually badly.

Speaker 10 (01:37:12):
Born of the day as a noun iconoclast I C
O N O C L A S T.

Speaker 6 (01:37:19):
What do you think it means?

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
This is one of those words that either means what
I think it means or the opposite.

Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
Iconoclast is like someone who defies uh custom, tradition or fashion.
Someone who's like bruised that back in your face.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
Okay, Okay, what do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
That's kind of what I was gonna say. Yeah, someone
that's a uh that kind of interested the box the
norm that that oh man, it's so funny.

Speaker 5 (01:37:50):
It's hard. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Someone that that does not doesn't what am.

Speaker 6 (01:37:55):
I trying to say?

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Ignores the norms, that doesn't color own thing, and that
doesn't mean.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
You are both ques.

Speaker 10 (01:38:01):
Not only in the ballpark, you're probably on first base
close to home.

Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
A person who.

Speaker 10 (01:38:05):
Attacks cherished beliefs or traditional institutions.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
There we go.

Speaker 7 (01:38:10):
Now we have a trivia question in my calendar. What
how do the legendary Lockness monster get its name?

Speaker 5 (01:38:17):
I think it's isn't.

Speaker 7 (01:38:18):
It in the the net lock Ness?

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Isn't it in the Isn't that the name of.

Speaker 6 (01:38:23):
The lock Yes? I have no idea who it is.

Speaker 7 (01:38:27):
The aquatic beast is named for Lockness, a lake near Inverness, Scotland,
where it purportedly lives. Accounts of a monster in the
lake date back fifteen hundred years. Now there is something
you know now, all right, Nicholas Mandy, here we go.
Now this is jeopardy. And because you are not here
and you are far away, I have to wait until

(01:38:48):
the end of the question. To shout out my name
so I can answer the question. But you, if you
know the answer, can jump in anytime. Are you ready?

Speaker 5 (01:38:55):
You just have to shout Nick to answer the question.

Speaker 7 (01:38:58):
Okay, we're ready to count to day's categic do Halloween.

Speaker 10 (01:39:02):
Entertaine at Disneyland. You can watch the headless Horseman ride
down this central road.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
Go Manny, what is main stream?

Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
That is correct?

Speaker 5 (01:39:16):
Seeing how this is going?

Speaker 9 (01:39:17):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
Nick, you got it? Okay?

Speaker 10 (01:39:18):
I got a rock? Was Charlie Brown's lament in the
nineteen sixty six TV special about this great imaginary being?

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
Maybe what is the great Pumpkins? Charlivel That is also correct?
To zero?

Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Because it's Halloween.

Speaker 10 (01:39:36):
Elliott dresses up as et like one of these so
he won't be recognized. He dresses up et like a blank,
so he won't be recognized.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
I know what dressed as. I just don't. Yes, I
will get We're gonna give this one ghosts. Yes, there
you go.

Speaker 6 (01:39:56):
Okay, I don't know what to how to pronounced this part.

Speaker 10 (01:39:59):
This warren zevon zvon tune about shape shifters in England
is a staple on radio stations in October.

Speaker 7 (01:40:09):
Go what, Mandy, what is an American Werewolf in London. No,
dang it, it's something like that, but it's not.

Speaker 10 (01:40:18):
I'm gonna give it to you. There's just were wolves
in London.

Speaker 7 (01:40:22):
Yes, okay, I just watched an American Werewolf in London.

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
The special effects in that movie not very special, but
the movie is still really good.

Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
They're not very special, Nick, you know what I'm They're
just not special anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
Three to one, okay.

Speaker 10 (01:40:41):
Halloween three was subtitled this just like the title of
a Donovan song, go.

Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
I Got nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:40:51):
Any We're good is a season of the Witch.

Speaker 10 (01:40:57):
Yeah, all right, which means that all of Knicks Morgan's
are mine for losing, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
Not to tell you that.

Speaker 7 (01:41:04):
Yeah, Nick Melton, thanks so much. Have a blast at
your at your haunted house there at the thirteenth floor,
and I appreciate you making time for us today.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
See you later tonight, man.

Speaker 7 (01:41:16):
All right, we will make We will just turn the
station over to our friends of ka WA Sports. We
will be back on Friday tomorrow. We are preempted by
pre game for the Thursday night game between the Broncos
and the Saints, so we will be back with a
full show on.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Friday with I believe. Can we say?

Speaker 7 (01:41:34):
Is Senator Michael Bennett confirmed? Is he confirmed?

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
No, he's not.

Speaker 7 (01:41:37):
We're trying, we're trying to work it out. We don't
know we'll fight, it's it'll be a mystery to both
of us. But in the meantime, KA Sports coming up
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