10-22-24 FULL SHOW - How To Build Strong Relationships With Your Teens

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Tuesday edition of the show.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell, joined,
of course, by.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
My right hand man, the man who makes it all
sound good. It's a rod everybody you can call Anthony
Roby goes.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Well.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
But books gonna be that kind of party. I can
tell today. We have a lot of stuff to talk
about it and I'm just I was just talking to
Ross about this.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
You guys.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's getting to that time of year where I spend
probably an additional hour every morning looking for any stories
that don't have to do with the election of some sort.
It is getting more and more difficult to find those stories.
I did find some for today. I heard Ross's conversation
about scars. I think that's interesting. All my scars that

(01:23):
I have are dumb stories. They're not good stories.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Like you were being dumb. No, OK, I'm going to
show you right now.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
I got a scar right here on my leg Okay,
it's about three and a half inches long, which is
perfectly straight. I at the time we had a bed,
and our bed frame had two drawers at the foot
of the bed, and I had we just kept like
extra blankets and stuff in there. And I had taken
something out of the drawer and put it back in
and not closed it all the way and then tripped

(01:51):
over said drawer and gashed my shin. And that's not
a good story. So then I started thinking, maybe I'll
tell people I got scratched by a mountain one.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
That's a better story.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
It's more relatable, though, because you had what I call
more often in my later years and aim and object days. Yeah,
all anaim and objects are out to get you. They fall,
they run, you run into them, they get in the way,
and I'm just like, well, it's one of those nonomen
object days.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
And then do you have dog days as well? Because
I also, as I as I pulled up my skirt,
I got on a long skirt today to show you
my scar on my leg, I realized yesterday I was
carrying something in my hands, not a heavy something. I
just had both my hands full, you know, and my
dog decided that would be the perfect moment to run
up behind me and lean into me and took my

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feet out from under me, and I scraped my knee
when I hit the floor.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Have I not told you? Poppy gets a designated day.
She always has. Menace mondays, Menace mondays, Papa.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Always where she is up to no good. She has
a look every Monday. You know it's coming. She didn't
have it yesterday, though today she had the look. She
smell went out a little bit, maybe, but Menace mondays.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
When the queue was really little, when my daughter was
like eighteen months old, we were living in this teeny
tiny house in Louisville. I loved the neighborhood. That the
house was not as big as the studio, and her
bedroom was right off the kitchen because everything was right
off the kitchen because the house was so small. And
she would come, she'd get out of bed some mornings

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and she would sling that door open, and her look
on her face was like, I am gonna f something
up my day exactly, And we would just go around
lifting everything out of her immediate reach, right like go crazy,
knock yourself out. So, yeah, some days you just have
those days, now, Uh, Mandy it's Stephen Firestone. I have
a new saying for you, referring to the city approval

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of blocking people's.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Views of the mountains.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
The needs of the many outweighs the rights of the few.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Do you get that feeling? Yes? Indeedy.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
He's talking, of course, about the new development downtown. Let's
do the blog because I have it on the blog
today and we'll jump right in. Find the blog at
mandy'sblog dot com. Mandy's blog don't uh oh, I just
want to.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I just want to.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I've been reminded of something via the Common Spirit Health
text line Mandy, don't forget to barrel. Good freaking lord,
I'm barreling like a freaking barreler.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I need more barreling.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
We are barreling on a Tuesday. The vlog is headline
ten twenty two, twenty four blog how to build strong
relationships with your teens. Click on that and here are
the headlines you will find within tic Tech Turn a Winner.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
Office, half of American Allarships and Clipments a sea that's
going to press plant.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Day on the blog. My voter guide is out.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Want a lasting relationship with your kids? Body was the
winner to me? The teacher's union is super mad about
an ad endorsing prop eighty More idiocy from two Douglas
County Commission members. How they how do they not know
how much this costs when sloppy studies are used to
back up bad policy. New Ballerina development will kill the view.

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Woodland Park plays politics with schools. Another CD eight debate,
Why are we still mad about inflation? Hamas claims Another
life from October seventh? Will conservative Hollywood stand up meet
the big money behind Harris? Is the Middle East giving
the nod to Israel? D and Di goes full woke
and I'm so sad about this. Wolf Creek Ska Resort

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is opening this week. Denying a sobriety test is bad
news in Colorado. Listening to music may aid recovery from surgery.
Death by swordfish, No hugs for you. This is why
men shouldn't be in women's locker rooms. Get scared by
a rod Next Monday. Britney is not okay? A genius
plan to pay for a wedding, A very clever pumpkin

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hack when ice breaking goes wrong. Those are the headlines
on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And can we
just talk about the last video on the blog today
about ice breaking.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is there anything worse than being.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
At a meeting with work and having somebody stand up
in an Evitably they're the person who leads the meeting,
like the guy from Ferris Bueller, who's so boring. Then
sign and they're like, hey, everybody, just you know, we
got a couple of new faces in the crowd. Why
don't we go around and everybody just tell a little

(06:16):
something about yourself, a little fun fact. Maybe nobody knows,
you know what I always say in that situation, I've
killed a man. And then I'm like, no, I have
it as far as you know, just leave it out there.
Just you know, she's kidding. Maybe, I mean, right questions?
Did we background check her? Is she at least it's interesting?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
You know?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, I just but I don't say anything else. And
then I just laugh and sit down.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Like short laugh and then stop interest.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Like that, and then I just sit down. Nobody ever
asked me any questions after that, So it's always nice.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
No, there should be no follow ups.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
But there's a video, funny video about the ice breaking,
and it's so it's so funny because it's so true.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, it really is Mandy.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
With the new KSE Ball Arena development, Josh Kronky will
become the most powerful man in Colorado. He's currently forty
four years old. Stan Kronkey is seventy seven. And what
we're talking about is the Denver City Council last night
approved a massive new development project for the land around
ball Arena that is currently parking. Now here's my question,

(07:26):
A Roden, I don't know if you would know the answer.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
To this or not.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Does this include the land that Elitch's is on? Kind
of looks I think it does. Well, we knew that
eliss was going to have to move. They already knew that,
so Elish's was already on the chopping block in terms
of where they were going to go. What I think
would be super interesting is if the UH ownership group,
the Pener Walton group picked the spot and really, realistically

(07:51):
the best spot for a new stadium with plenty of
land around it would be somewhere towards the airport. Right
you got multiple highways going in that direct. So maybe
they buy a big old piece of land and then
we put ilitches right by the stadium, not like right
by where the parking lots would be but in that
same vicinity. Because what all these owners want to do
now and I it's it's sound business. This is a

(08:13):
sound business move, right. We're gonna get into why it
sucks in a second, but it is a sound business proposition.
All of these athletes or all of these owners of
sports teams are not necessarily that You're trying to think
of the best way to say this. Your ability to
raise revenue while you own a sports franchise is pretty

(08:34):
limited in terms of your avenues to raise money.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
You have gear.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Sales, you have ticket sales, you have a portion of
the proceeds in the stadium. But other than that, TV
rights you have, you have various ways. But there there's
a limited number of income streams from owning a sports franchise, right,
So these owners are looking to figure out a way
to capitalize on and the stadiums that they own. And

(09:02):
the cron Keys are a great example of this because
they own Ballerina, and they own it and now they
own they own all the land around it, and and
now they're going to develop all of that land to
enhance the area around Ballerina, and they're going to make
a lot of money with this development. Here are the
problems with this development as it stands.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Number one, one of.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
The things that has made Denver incredibly unique, I think,
is that because we have the front range to our west,
Denver has very very carefully protected the views from east
or yea from east of I twenty five in downtown Denver.
They have very very I mean by it's it's written

(09:46):
down somewhere that they're protecting the views.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's called the view plane restriction.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
And the last night the Denver City Council decided that
the viewplane restriction is no more longer necessary, and so
they have approved this rather ambitious development, and I mean
really ambitious development that includes housing and shops and restaurants
in office space and parks and all of these different things.

(10:16):
And this is definitely going to block the view The
old City Hall view plane was designed to preserve rocky
mountain views in exchange for affordable housing. Well that is
all out the window. Eighteen percent of this stuff, by
the way, will be considered affordable housing, so a little
less than twenty percent. But what does that actually mean
affordable housing? Is this affordable rental units? Is it affordable condos?

(10:41):
What does that mean, really, Now the sports venue has
fifty five acres of parking lot and a rod. And
now we're talking about this before the show. How many
of you out there think to yourself, God, I love
going to Ballerina. It's a dream to get in and
out of.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Now, if you're driving, that's true.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I still don't mind driving and paying the money to
park in the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't mind it. It's easy because the parking lot's huge.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
But all of those parking lots are about to be
made into buildings. So what's gonna end up happening is
you're gonna have all of these different buildings with X
amount of spaces designated for visitors, and those are gonna
be used during concerts and ABS games. So those are
you're gonna have to go into a parking garage. You'll
come out of a parking garage. So if there were

(11:35):
other options that made sense to get to Ballerina, then
I would say, sure, do it. But the reality is this,
Even if you take a train to Ballerina, which I
did on Friday night, we went to the ABS game
on Friday night, Chuck had to be on the He
had to take somewhere to the airport at like five
o'clock right, So he's like, Okay, I'm not coming back
home in Douglas County to get you. I said, fine,

(11:57):
I'll hop on the train. I'll just you know, park
the Reachgate station because that's as far south as it goes.
And I just hopped on the train and I and
I was deciding which train to take.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
There was one at four fifty five that I was like, oh, no,
I'm gonna take the earlier.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I took a train at four forty five, so I
was like, great, I'm on the train. It's moving.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
It smelled like homeless people and dirty feet, but I
was there. And we get to the Bellevue station, I believe,
and we have to stop and we're told we're stuck
because there's another train ahead of us that is broken down.
So now I start checking my uber app. I was
just gonna hop off the train and go get an Uber,
but traffic was so bad that it would have just
taken me too long, so I stayed on the train.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Eventually made it no problem.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
But leaving after an Avs game, have you ever done
this a rod, because I've done it one time after
a Nuggets game. I will never do it again. When
you get out of an event at Ball Arena, it's
usually eleven o'clock, which means that there are only trains
running every hour, and if you missed the first train
because there's too many people trying to get on the train,

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then you.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Have to wait an hour to get the next train.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
So then we were like, Okay, the next time we
do this, we'll take the train down there then will
uber home.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Hey Rod, how long is the line to get your
uber extensive? Very long? Yeah, it can be very, very
very long. So here's what I'm hoping.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
And if the Cronkis are listening, because why wouldn't you
listen to the show, and even if you own competing
radio stations, because we are so good, If the Kronkis
are listening, can.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
You please come up with.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Some sort of plan with OURTD to notify them that
we're going to be having a game this night, and
could you put some additional trains on that night to
maybe run them very fifteen minutes for two hours after
the game.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Why not, you know what, just blanket the whole thing,
because almost every given night there is something there abs
game that's my nuggets game concert. It has to be
not just hey, let me just give you a calendar
pretty much just blanket the whole thing every night.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, up every day, every night.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
But they don't, and they have to figure out someplace,
like you know, airports. When Uber started becoming a thing,
all the airports were super mad. They were like, you
can't stand there to get picked up. Well, now all
the airports are like, look, Uber's a thing. Uber and
Lyft are not going.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Away, so we have to figure this out.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
So now they found a way to accommodate those people
that get them out of the way, but also allows
the system to work efficiently. And that's what they have
to do.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
You have to adapt to underground, like the underground like
parking area where it's like ten lanes yes, bus bus
bus bus taxi, taxi, taxi, uberlyft, uberlyft, like it has
to be like that you would imagine underneath like an airport.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Term they remember the DNC. Okay, so where we were
staying was walking distance from the United Center, but we
walked right past where they had the Uber pick up
because they knew everybody was going to use Uber, so
they literally had like eight lanes of traffic where you
could then your driver could text you I'm in lane seven,

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and then you can look for your driver in lane seven,
you can go get in their car, and you just went.
It was very efficient.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
I thought, if they do that, I'm in Athwise, I'm
only going to be parking decent amount of distance away
and walking to and front ball. I will not if
they don't have a that level of an organized system. YEP,
with that limited of parking available, I'm just gonna walk
to and from parking elsewhere because it's not ride sharing,

(15:18):
and adding an hour plus on the front end and
back end is not is not logical.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Somebody just hit.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
The Common Spirit of Health text line and it's the
first part of your conversation. Why aren't you just driving
to the games? So I want to read another text
message that just came in. Mandy is a season ticket holder.
I'll be done. Imagine what the paid parking will cost
once the development starts, and that is exactly.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Right, And imagine driving down there. For some of thoseesn't
live clothes, it's gonna be limited parking. So parking isn't
even guaranteed, correct, So you're parking far away regardless. I'm
not even gonna mess with it if I ever have
to drive. I'm not even messing without possibility here. I've
been thinking about this since I saw this story. Here's
what I would do again, Krankey's if you're listening, you're welcome.
You can take my dam run with that.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I think that during any any games that this could
be done.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
You work with like Mile High and.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
You set up parking in a shuttle system at Mile
High to get people to Ballerina. That's one way to
handle it, because there's no place else where you could
park a bunch of cars like downtown that out.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
Loud, doesn't that sound so so horrible? It's an eighteen
thousand roughly person venue.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
You have to partner with a different facility to do
parking for this.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Level of a during construction I'm talking about because during construction, Yeah,
there's there's no place to put these people. During construction, right,
they're just gonna have like half of the parking lot,
or at least chunks of the parking lot taken out
because they're going to be building on them. So, I mean,
obviously there are people working on this stuff now, I
mean there has to be. They can't just be barreling

(16:52):
ahead without some kind of plan for what if?

Speaker 6 (16:53):
This is the number one most common thread of criticism
that should have been their headline of this play. And
I understand for the people in the affordable housing that
is all really really great. At the end of the day,
this is based around ballerin and the venue for games
and concerts. Immediately, people are all asking the same question,
what the hell do we do about transportation? That needed

(17:13):
to be part of your headline when it comes to
how we're moving forward. It had to be, and it's not.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
This person said, is this all part of the plan
to get cars out and trains in?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
They're working on making the community that they're going to
be building. Because they're building a bunch of buildings, they're
working on making the community into a walkable community. So
let me let me talk about this thing that I
read about and I cannot, for the life of me,
remember what these buildings are called.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
But I'm gonna I'm gonna find this this story.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
No, they have skyscrapers in Japan, but they're different than
every other skyscraper, and I think this is kind of genius.
Have you ever seen pictures of Tokyo, Japan, where they
have the signs going all the way up the buildings
instead of just on the first floor, and it creates
this kind of you know, like like a canyon of
lights where they have all these different and you think.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's advertising, but it's.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Not because in Japan, instead of building mixed use developments
like we do here, which is retail on the bottom
and then living space or office space above, which is great, right,
they build a style of building that the entire first
eight floors five floors, four floors are all retail or

(18:24):
restaurants or offices or whatever, and all of those signs
that go up the building are actually indicating what is
on that floor. So when you look up and you
see a restaurant on the step of the floor, you
can go ahead and get to that restaurant. And instead
of having to go into the building to get to
the restaurant, they all have external access, so from the
street you can hop on an elevator, go up to

(18:47):
the eighth floor and.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Try that restaurant.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
And the thinking here is that when you go to
and I'm trying to think of a great let's use
Laramer Square because everybody kind of has that in their
mind right, but there's no tall buildings a Laraer Square.
It's a bad example. Trying to think. Okay, over here
in the tech center, they just built all of these
mixed use buildings where they have retail and restaurants on
the bottom floor, but then they have apartments to go

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up for like six stories. Imagine instead of having apartments,
you had six stories of businesses that you could access
from the street. Now you have increased your exposure to
business by six times in that same amount of space.
You can walk one hundred yards in Tokyo, Japan, and
you can see five hundred businesses in one hundred yards

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because they go up eight floors.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
This is what I think we need to look into here.
If they really.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Want to make a functioning community that has high visibility
and high impact but it's very walkable, then put as
much in those bottom floors as you could possibly imagine.
I think it's the coolest thing ever. I cannot, for
the life of me remember what they're called.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Hey, I just did talk for a seconds of research answer.
I wonder now, I think of I'm sure they already have.
If it's not in this press release, I'm not seeing here.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
The name for the new neighborhood around Ballerina. It's gonna
be called I don't know.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
I mean Baldo for ball Downtown, Ballerina, downtown Baldo.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
You got Lodo. It sounds terrible. Baldo. Where you're going
Baldo's downtown.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
No, it's basically gonna be in an addition like a
new downtown area.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
So why is it not Baldo? I mean that's what
I'm gonna call it.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
No, No, no, No, all downtown, the center around Ballerina, Baldo.
Where you going? You wanna go to Lodo? No, I'm feeling
Baldo tonight. It's going to Baldo. That's why I'm calling it.
I don't care what Baldo.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
No, No, that's that's not what it's called. Broto Well,
I mean I will be would it be called though Baldo? No,
it's not gonna be called Baldo. I mean I'm calling Baldo.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
No.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
You got the.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Ballpark neighborhood right, that's around Coresfield. The area around Mile
High is not nice.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It's from there.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
I know.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
It's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
I mean, this looks amazing, and honestly, I'm zooming into
the rendering. I'm like comparing with Google Maps. I've read
multiple releases. I'm looking up posts. I don't see the
name Elitches anywhere. But I mean you look at the
renderings and you kind of put two and two together, right,
I mean this? Oh, no, Jesse Thomas, I'm not reading
that one. That's what it does.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, No, we're gonna go with Baldo. I'm going with Baldo.
If we're not going with Baldo.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
No, No, I can't remember what the name of this is,
dag nab itt.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
This is gonna drive me crazy. I'm gonna look it
up on the break. I'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
It's gonna figure this out. Because we're going to Japan
next spring. I am consuming a lot of stuff about
Japan because I've never been there. I want to know
a lot about the culture before we go. And I
saw this Twitter thread about Japanese urbanism, and specifically about
a style of building. And I don't know if I
am saying this correctly, but I hope i am.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Because then I don't want to embarrass myself.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
There's a type of building in Japan that makes Japanese
cities different than any other Asian city or any other
large city. It's a type of building called Zakio Zakkyo,
and if you follow me on Twitter, I just retweeted
this again.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's super interesting. It's a long thread, but.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
It talks about the fact that in a Zachio building
you would have shops and offices on multiple floors, anywhere
from two to eight floors.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
They have exterior signs on upper floors, so you can
discover the stores from the street, and all of the
upper floors are street accessible because the buildings have stairways
and elevators directly on the streets, so you don't have
to go into a lobby.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You don't have to do any of that. You just
go up to the building that you want.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
To go to. The upper floor signs of the Zakio
buildings give Japanese downtown a forest of lights look, but
they also serve an important purpose. You can see the
restaurants and shops from the street and walk in and
try them out. Now, what this this person on x
has done a great job in showing is that these

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urban centers, these Ezechio building corridors, are extremely crowded with people,
but they don't necessarily have people living there. If you've
ever gone to New York City, and stayed in an
apartment over retail establishment. It can be a miserable experience.
When I was a flight attendant, I had a crash
pad with some friends of mine in the East Village and.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
It was five.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Floors up over a wing delivery place. So it always
smelled like dirty grease. It was loud, you couldn't open
the windows because there was so much traffic going by.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I was on a major thoroughfare.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It was just not the way I want to live, right,
That's not a way I want to live my life.
It's a very not peaceful at all kind of thing.
So instead of putting apartment buildings with retail or condos
or whatever, they actually shove all of the actual business
into these small corridors and and you know, a five

(24:03):
minute walk away, you have a.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Peaceful, tree lined street where.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
People live without any of the hustle and bustle of retail.
And I just think it's it's an incredibly cool concept.
And if we're talking about building neighborhoods that are walkable
that people want to live in, perhaps we should look
at what they do in Japan as a model to
get all of the business done in one area and

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then allow people to live in places even in the
city that feel very peaceful. It's super interesting, super super interesting.
So we'll see We'll reach out to Fronkey Sports and
see if we can get somebody on to talk about this.
A Rod and I are both a little bit confused
about whether or not it's going to completely displace elitches,
which we know was going to happen, but we can't

(24:52):
tell if this actually displaces elitches because.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
It really looks like it rendering at least a good
chunk of it, which would suggest if they're going to
take away a good chunk of it, it's all going
to go right, I mean.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
And they have a beautiful rendering of what they're calling
Signature Park, right and it's gorgeous. It's like a It's
got an amphitheater on one side, it's got trees and everything. Now,
imagine if Signature Park was surrounded on both sides by
Zachio buildings, with all of the retail around this park,
and then all of the other spaces can be just

(25:25):
left to be quiet residential places right in the middle
of Denver.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I'm just saying, just throwing.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
That out there, just I'm just lofting up some balloons, right,
I'm I'm just throwing I'm an idea person. I'm a
big picture person. But I just think they should look
into it. I think would be very very cool.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Now, the nightly decraze you would hope for in traffic
from concerts and games, that could be really nice yep,
especially for me. Yeah, so just saying that could be
a nice ad. But again, it has to be where
they go all in on like they are sounds like
of getting people to ride shair to public transit to walk.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
They have to make public transit work. That's the problem.
Public transit for Ballerina does not work. It simply doesn't.
Somebody asked, when was the last time you went to
a Nuggets game and where did you park? Six years ago?
I rode the train, which is why I haven't been since.
Rode the train both directions missed. The first train, got
to stand there until midnight to wait for the next train,

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which also missed that one got to wait until one am.
Super pissed off. Never doing that again. Mandy, what did
Japan the first time?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Last year?

Speaker 4 (26:32):
And you're going to have an incredible time. The culture
and everything is so amazing. I almost had culture shock
coming back to America. Yes, the Mandy Carnal Adventure. I'm
super excited about that trip. We have a lot of
suggestions for what to call the area, the newly developed area.
Some of them I cannot read on the air. Baldo,
I kind of like the bald a sack. It got

(26:55):
cul de sac right, but it's the ball to sack.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I think Baldo's growing on you, Waldo.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
And then people would be like, where's Baldo, And you'll
be like, well, you're gonna have to find it yourself.
It'll be like a secret place. Cronky Dong, that's kind
of funny. Cronky Ville. That sounds like a Kronkyville. Does
not sound good, No offense to the last name Kronky.
Kronky Ville sounds like a lot of like homeless and kids.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
I have.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, not a good sounding place. Would like that. No,
I don't think so vill Viill's not good. Cronky Ville. Yeah,
most villas are Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Mandy a mid fifties, getting ready to retire and would
love a fifty five an older apartment with stores, restaurants,
parks within walking distance.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
They're not that easy to find, you know.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
I think that's a great idea, but those are pretty
low profit centers because most people don't move out of
those places, so you don't have any turnovers, so you're
kind of limited on how you could jack up the rent.
Hi Mandy, we went to an Eric Church concert in
twenty seventeen, and that was the last time I was
ever at Pepsi Center because my buddy's truck got stolen
from the parking lot. Also, I wonder how long will

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Ballerina be there before they move it or before it
has to be replaced. I think Ballerina is still in
pretty good shape. Oh it's I mean, we were there.
It's it's a good fan experience. Yes, and that's really
what it's all about. It has luxury suitets, so you
don't have to worry about that. Just being in Ballerina
is pleasant as far as arenas go. It's a very

(28:31):
pleasant experience. The Hoba neighborhood. How about this one Hoba
hockey and basketball.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I kind of like that one, a Rod. What do
you think about Hoba concerts?

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Oh, that's right, Hobica, Hoboco, Hoboco.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Balde Baldel Okay.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Mandy call it the original name Areria I think having
Areria and Aurora is too confusing.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
I'm just gonna say it, my campus, Arerea campus out
of us, leave them alone.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
What about Ball Plaza or Ball Village all ball. It's
kind of good. I like that, but see, wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute, Ball just signed for
the naming rights.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Like they're not building any of this stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
We can't just name it after them because in six
years they could have a new sponsor and it would.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Make no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
True, So we got to rethink this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Here, the construction timeline, this is I heard this morning,
twenty fifty. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not gonna.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Happen in twenty the earliest to twenty unless you get
Ball to link up on I don't know how long
that deal is.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
And then how about crowdo crodo cronky downtown crodo.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
That's not bad. I kind of like that croto.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
But I mean then you think of crows and you're like,
why crowdo?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
But it would be k r d O crodo.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
No, I know how it would be spelt, but you
say it out loud or there are a lot of
crows there. It's the first question everyone's gonna those are bros.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
They're dumb.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Anyway, Baldo was a movie about a dog. No baal
Tow was a movie about a dog. Ujo, no kujo,
different dog, totally different vibe. When it first changed the
ball radio and Milwaukee was calling it the can that's
not nice.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, did you know they're doing.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
The same thing in LA since they own the La
Rams in the stadium and all the later, all of
the sports owners are doing this.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
This is not a new idea. Blame Jerry Joe.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Jerry Jones was the guy who did it first, and
all of the other owners were like, dang, Jerry, you're annoying.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
But that was really smart Jerry. We're gonna move on.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Uh Mandy, where are you going tonight?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Downtown? No balltown that from Andy, I'm telling you, we
got to get ball out of it. Just got to
take the ball out of it.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
When we get back, I want to talk about a
couple of things that I've got on the blog today.
One about the eighth Congressional District debate on the CBS.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
We're gonna do a.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Quick, quick, quick stuff about that, because I was talking
about candidates not answering questions. We'll talk about what happened
in this debate in just a second, Mandy, wouldn't it
be fun to do a mock debate where both debaters
give answer not related to what is asked. That's pretty
much what's happening now, Sean. Mandy, Uh, because it is Stan.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
How about or where did it go? Where did it go?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I had this just a moment ago, Mandy land I
like that that has legs stand town or Stanton because
it's Stan crunky we shall see nugget plaza. Well, then
that leaves the abs out. Can't have that? Be terrible?
Absolutely terrible. Sorry, you guys have opened a Pandora's box.

(31:37):
Now I'm only gonna hear bald a sack. Yes, why
won't you take me to cronky Town? Won't you take
me to cronky Town? To the tune of fight? And
as the texture absolutely does it matter? Says this, it
will still be full of crime and welcoming illegal is
still not worth it.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
There you go, there you go. Now let me talk
about last night's debate on CBS four. I just want
to say it.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
The moderator in last night's debate was the just excellent Sean.
What is Seawn's last name on CBS whors At Boyle. No,
I went to high school with someone named Sean Boyle.
What the ex her last name?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I am?

Speaker 4 (32:21):
I am CBS four. Let me get this because now
it's gonna Sean Lloyd Void, a true, true journalist, master
at this stuff. And she did a debate last night
between Gabe Evans and Yadira Caraveo, and and I.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Went off on the show me if it.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Was yesterday or Friday, about the fact that I'm so
tired of watching these candidate debates where the candidates don't answer.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
The damn questions.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
And I don't know if anybody told Gave Evans to
just answer the damn questions, but he did, and so
did you, dear At Caraveo.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But she did not. She did not seem sure of
herself at all last night.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
And if you watch the first debate, and here's the thing,
if you live in the eighth congressional district, y'all.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Watch the debates.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Watch the debates because one of these people is going
to be representing you and you need to know what
could be coming down the pike.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
So I put the debate on the blog today. You
should watch it.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
It's a much better debate than the first one for
Gabe Evans. And it's not that you, Derek Heravea was terrible.
She just seemed very unsure of herself, and that is
not how she appeared at all in the first debate.
It was very weird because I actually think she's pretty
good at presenting her viewpoints, even if I think she's.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Wrong about stuff. So that is on the blog.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
But if anybody told Gabe just answered the damn question,
well done, because he did answer the damn question.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Which is nice. Oh Kronkistan Kronkistan, no little too uh aggressive?
Ho do hodo? What does ho do stand for? I
think you know hi do versus lo doo?

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Yeah, I don't know. I think we still need to
focus group. I think you come to a thirty year
deal with Ball and you go with Baldo.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
No no, no, yes, no.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Apparently Ball arispis, which is bought by a Chinese company,
So no, we don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I don't know. I have to look that up. Somebody
just said that on the text line.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
When we get back, we're going to talk about a
subject that as the mom of a teenager, I'm very
interested in Boulder psychologist Susan.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Keeso is on. She's got a new.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Book, The Parent Teen Connection, how to build lifelong family relationships,
and I am interested to hear what she has to say,
because you know when your kids are little and they're
adorable and they think you're awesome, and everybody like kind
of gives you the side eye and they're like, mhm,
Wait until they're teenagers, and you think to yourself and
don't lie.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
All parents do this.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
You think to yourself, not my adorable little scamp. We're
going to have a solid relationship all the way through
the teen years. And then the teen years arrive and
you realize you've been deluding yourself. So we're going to
talk to doctor Kaso about the next Keep.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
It right here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
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Speaker 2 (35:08):
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Speaker 4 (35:29):
Welcome Local, Welcome to.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
The second hour of the show.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
And my next guest is a woman who not only
is a professional, a trained psychologist, she also is a
mom who has gone through the teen years and maybe
in the teen years now. And when I saw this,
she has a new book out called The Parent Teen Connection,
how to build lifelong family relationships as.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
The mother of a teenager.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
I was like, sign me up, I'm in and Susan
Casso is joining.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Me now on the show.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Susan, first of all, I said right before we went
to break in the last break that you know when
your children are little and they're being adorable and they're precious,
and they think you're awesome and that everything you.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Do is amazing.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Some negative Nelly will walk by and say, wait until
the teen years, and in your mind you think, not
my adorable little darling, But then the teen years arrive
and all of a sudden, you're adorable little darling is
eye rolling and telling you you're an idiot, and you're like, what,
I want to.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Go back to the age when I was awesome. So
I'm hoping that you can give.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
A little bit of insight into extending the your awesome
period of life and maybe helping us work through the
teen years.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
So welcome to the show. First of all, thank you, Mandy.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
I can't stop laughing just hearing you, and it's all true.
That does happen, you.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Know, when you are talking to parents of teenagers that
are maybe coming to your practice for help, and what
are some of those conversations like from parents?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
What from the parent perspective?

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Maybe let's dive in a little bit to what they're
experiencing and then maybe talk about why the kids are
doing what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
So let's start with mom and dad first.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
Yeah, when I you know, I've we've been working with
teens for over twenty years, and when you work with teens,
you work with parents, and you know, I see a
lot of the same patterns in my office in the
same cycle of interaction that happens between parents and teens.

Speaker 8 (37:26):
I see that over and over.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
That was one of the reasons why I wanted to
write the book, because I wanted to help parents, you know,
take what I do in session and put that in
a book to reach more people. Yeah, teenagers, you know,
there is that period and sometimes it starts around nine
or even ten, right where they you know, hey, mom, dad's.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
Not so cool.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I know better than you.

Speaker 8 (37:53):
You embarrass me, and the eye rolls and those kinds
of things. Yes, it does happened.

Speaker 7 (38:01):
Mom and Dad aren't Superman and Superwoman anymore.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
And that whole piece kind of comes crashing down, and
it is kind.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Of sad, right, It's very sad to go from Oh,
you're the most amazing thing because you snap together my
plastic toy in front of me to mom, I'm trying
to think of what one of the things my daughter
said to me. She goes, Mom, you give amazing advice
that is utterly useless in today's society.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
This is what she said to me. And I was like, dang,
that's cold, but it is.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
You know, you still want to help, but you know,
I'm trying to respect what my teen daughter is going through.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And let's talk about that for a second.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Talk about the development that goes on during the teen years,
just in terms of brain growth and development and maturity, Like,
give us a little window into that.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
Goes on, right, brain development when they're infants and then
really when their adolescence, lots of brain development, lots of maturity.
Their frontal lobe is not fully developed yet, it's under construction,
and so they really are impulsive. They can't stay on
task as well, they can't be organized, you know, and

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they make decisions that you know, if that part was
really constructed.

Speaker 8 (39:21):
Might look a little different.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
So how do you manage to help your kid in
making those decisions that are important?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Because there are a lot of important.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Decisions that teens are going to be making about whether
to go to college, you know, what school to go to,
whether they're going to go at all. How can you
help them guide them through that part where their frontal
prefrontal cortex is not developed.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
While still allowing them to grow up. I mean that's
so hard.

Speaker 8 (39:54):
It really is hard, and.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Talking to your teenager about really what you just said,
like this is hard. We have these many years to
go until you turn eighteen, and I want to support you,
and we need to talk about what that will look like.
I'm not going to tell you, like I'm not gonna

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tell you what to do every time. I want to
sit back and listen and I want you to tell
me when you need me. I might say, hey, I
notice this, And I'm not trying to tell you you're
doing something wrong.

Speaker 8 (40:31):
I'm just trying to be your mom and support you.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
So it's really about talking about it and creating a
bond around like, hey, I'm on your side, but you've
got a lot of difficult things to go through and
you are going to need my help.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
So we all probably know a family or maybe even
have this in our own family where teenagers and the
relationship with their parents during the teen years is so
fro with friction and fighting that it has a negative
impact on that relationship forever. And I think for most

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parents that's very concerning. So how do we avoid that specifically?

Speaker 7 (41:13):
Yeah, So I mean again, this is why I wrote
the book, and it says the parenting connection, and it
says lifelong family relationships because lots of things happen in
the teen years that creates disconnection and then it is
long term and children harbor that and you know, we
don't have forgiveness, and it really is difficult for families

(41:37):
long term.

Speaker 8 (41:38):
And so really the main premise of the book is
to create stronger.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Families and where we see a sense of belonging at home,
healthy communication, and those things build emotional closeness. And so
really getting to that place of emotional closeness where your
teen feels like they can really eye on you and
you can be there. And sometimes that's just listening to

(42:05):
them and not jumping to problem solving, and they'll be
more receptive to hear from you when you do need
to jump into that space with them.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
So let me specifically say, I, you know, my daughter
is not particularly chatty, meaning that when you say just listen,
I'm sitting, I've got my listening ears on, I've got
my and there's nothing coming. So is there something I
can do as a parent too? And I don't want
to force the issue because it's just not my personality type.

(42:38):
But how can you open those lines of communication with
your kids that aren't necessarily communicative, even about big issues
that perhaps you could be an ear for.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
Yeah, and I think so. There's this piece in the book.
It's in chapter two called the mom dad role versus
the parent role. And the parent role is what we
think we're supposed to be doing keeping our kids on track,
telling them to do their chores, did you get your
homework done? All these great things that hey, we're a
good mom because we're doing all these things. And then

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the mom dad role is a softer side where we
have fun, we do things together, we cook, we you know,
anything that really brings joy, that creates closeness, that isn't
like a to do right. And so ideally we want
to spend more time in the mom dad role where
you're really cultivating the relationship, and the least amount of

(43:34):
time in the parent role, even though you still have
to do those tasks, because when you are in that
parent role more, it can the relationship can actually feel
more like a performance review rather than a relationship.

Speaker 8 (43:49):
Right, That is a great way that creates disconnection.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
I'd like to know if you have any thoughts on
you know, I'm gen X so I grew up a
feral child where our parents had no idea where we
were for a vast majority of our childhood.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
And I'm not.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Exaggerating by that.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Now we live in a society where children are micromanaged,
where even play outings are are micromanaged by parents, and
those opportunities for spontaneous.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Play are gone.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
How has that affected the relationship between parents and young
people just overall as they get older and they don't
want to be micromanaged by their parents.

Speaker 8 (44:29):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's a huge problem.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
It's a very big problem, and it's really hard because
we want to protect our kids.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
It feels like this is the way of life, like.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
We're supposed to be micromanaging. And then you have to
stop yourself and go, hold on, what am I doing?
I mean, I had the same scenario myself with my
sixth grader. She's riding her bike to school this year,
right because her school's right down the street. And the
first day I just walked where she's meeting her friend
and then they're riding and she was fine with that.

(45:01):
And then the second day I put my shoes on.
She goes, Mom, No, what what do you mean? And
she goes she likes me, Nandy, It's so funny.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
She goes like this, Mom, I got this. I'm going
to be okay. She goes, but are you going to
be okay?

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
And they went let her.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
Name's Olivia, and they said, I got it. This is
my issue, this isn't yours.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
It's true, though.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
I read a book when my daughter was in the
middle of middle school, which honestly is the worst time
of life, I think for so many people. And I
read a book called Untangled that was so helpful for
me as a parent in recognizing that none of this
stuff is really personal, is it?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
The kids are not angry, they don't lash out. It's
never personal. I mean, maybe it is in some cases.
But for the most parts, acting the way they act
has nothing to do with.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Us per se.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
It's more about them trying to separate from their parents
and establish their own identity. But ma'am, that's a hard
lesson to remember when you're in the middle of it.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
Yeah, and that is a great book I've read Untangled,
So yeah, not to take it personally. This is they're individuating.
That's what they're supposed to be doing, and that's you know,
the things I talk about in the book is like,
why are we saying teens are rebellious? Like it really
has a negative connotation, and if we have that in

(46:39):
our mind, we think of our kids in a negative way,
why are we vilifying them?

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Right?

Speaker 7 (46:45):
But there is a place where we have to draw
the line. We can't let them be disrespectful and rude
to us. And so I have that conversation, I mean
I've had it over the years of you know, I
treat you with respect and I expect you to do
that to me.

Speaker 8 (47:01):
And so we would have this with my oldest who's
a girl, you.

Speaker 7 (47:05):
Know, when she would say something rude or flip it,
we would just say try that again or rephrase, yeah,
you know to.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Say, would you like to reconsider how, yeah, how did
that just come out of your mouth? Would you like
to reconsider the way you.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Just said that? And just walking that back. The book
is let me go back up.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
And get the actual full name The Parent Teen Connection
How to Build Lifelong Family Relationships by Susan Casso.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I put a link on the blog today.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
I'm going to be buying this book because I got
a teenager for at least three more years. And I
should say my daughter is an absolute delight eighty five
percent of the time, and I feel like that's a
pretty good number. The other fifteen percent of the time
the jury will remain out until we get through this.
But this has been the most stressful, frustrating, confus using

(48:00):
experience of my adult life. And then I think to myself,
this is just what this is what I did to
my parents.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
You know, this is just the cycle of life.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
So Susan, what are some last words for parents who
are going to be ordering your book because they're just
at their wits end.

Speaker 7 (48:17):
I guess I really want people to feel my compassionate
understanding of what it's like to raise kids.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
I want them to know that you do not have
to be a perfect parent.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
What's most important is, you know, cultivating a strong connection
with your kid. And even the smallest changes and how
you are with your kids can make the biggest changes.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
That is Susan Casso, her new book. I put a
link on the blog if you want to buy it. Susan,
thank you so much for making time for us today.

Speaker 8 (48:47):
Thank you, Mandy, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
That is Susan Casso.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
And again, her new book is on the blog. I
will tell you, like, ay Rod, you're not even there yet.
But there was a time and I remind my daughter
of this. Now, we were somewhere in public and there
was a teenager just behaving horribly to her parents, just horribly.
And C's like seven years old, right, So she goes,

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why is that girl being so nasty? And I said,
sometimes teenagers act up and they don't treat their parents
with respect, and it's just kind of a thing that happens.
And she goes, oh, I would never talk to you
like that, You don't think. I bring that up as
often as I need to. Hey, remember that time at
home depot where seven year old you declared you would
never be disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
To your parents.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yeah, The good news is that I have older boys,
so I know they turn back into humans, like they
turned back into human beings. Be a parent, not a friend,
says this person. Really, you gotta be a parent, but
you can also have fun with your kids. They earn
the friendship Chuck. Chuck puts it into two categories.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
He loves to be a dad.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
He hates to be a father, because a father is
when you gotta get tough, you gotta be responsible one,
you gotta use discipline, You've.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Got to say no. You've got a dad is super fun,
super super fun.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Mandy, I spent my career as a professional mediator. I
learned and practiced all of these listening and empathetic skills.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Whenever I use these skills with my.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Three daughters, they would say, oh, dad's being a mediator
again and dismissed me.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
If they realize you're using these what do you do?
I just saw that. I should have asked Susan Casto
about that. I'm sorry about that. Here's the thing. I
use cliches all the time with my daughter.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
I use the cliches like happiness is on the other
side of a difficult conversation, because that is such an
easy thing to remember.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
And I'm counting, even though she rolls her eyes at me.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
And sometimes she'll present me with something and I'll go,
I don't have a cliche for this right now, but
I'll work.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
On one and she laughs.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
But you, guys, cliches stick in your mind for a reason.
And someday, when she is in a situation where she's having.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
A problem with her boss, I want my voice to
come through.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Her brain and say, happiness is on the other side
of a difficult conversation, because it is Mandy. The reason
Jesus didn't have any kids is because then he would
have become imperfect.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Correct, David, Correct, Correct, guys.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
I saw a bunch of questions now and I did
not see them while she was on, and I apologize
for that.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Apologize for that.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Yeah, voting age should be twenty five. I don't disagree
with that. And I always say to people, never underestimate
the ability of young people to find creative ways to
accidentally kill themselves for a reason, because it happens all
the time doing dumb stuff. Now, I got a couple
more things on the blog that I want to get
to you before. Oh, I forgot to mention So if

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you guys.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Watch The Voice a couple of seasons.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Ago, first runner up with this guy named Body, and
Body's mom lives here locally, and I got to interview
her on the air. Well, he's coming through town and
he's coming on to do the show at two. And
my favorite song from that season of The Voice was
him in the finals singing.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
A praise song called Gratitude, and it was so good.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Made me cry the first time I watched it. I
watched it this morning it made me cry again. If
you're looking for something to boost your gratitude, then there
you go. You've got it right there now, So let
me find where I'm going. I want to talk about
this story really quickly. You know, we had Ken Witt,
the superintendent of Woodland Park Schools, on not too long ago,

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and he talked about the fact that in Woodland Park,
the Woodland Park City Council had passed with the help
of voters.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
They didn't just shove it on voters.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Voters passed a small sales tax above and beyond the
sales tax they already have that is specifically.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
For the Woodland Park School District.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
And the Woodland Park School District was not a horrible
school district. But a few years ago a conservative majority
took over and they changed the way business is done
in Woodland Park schools.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
And boy has it had great results. I mean great results.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
The uh, the test scores for these students have soared,
absolutely soared.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Even for things like the SAT.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
The college Board reported a twenty one point increase in
the mean SAT score for the twenty twenty four graduating class.
All of this is great news, right, forget who the
school board is. Kids are learning, they're improving, they're learning more. So,
what did the Woodland Park City Council do? Do you
think they passed a referendum congratulating Woodland Park teachers and

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principals and the school board for their great success.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
And continued high achievement. No, they did not.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
They decided to put that one point zero nine percent
municipal sales tax back on the ballot so voters.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Could repeal it.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
You know why, because the Woodland Park City Council is
liberal and the Woodland Park school Board, the one that's
getting results and improving student achievement, is conservative.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Now what did they use that sales tax for?

Speaker 4 (54:16):
It generates about three point two million dollars that goes
to teacher salaries, facilities, safety, technology, and innovative programming. The
city turns the revenue over to the district that helped
fund the school board's sixteen percent boost in teacher pay
and covering almost all of the debt service for the
construction of a local elementary school.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
So why are they putting it up for a repeal valot. Well,
the liberals who put it on the ballot this.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Year were asked by Jimmy Singenberger for a column He
just did that I linked on the blog today, and
one of them said, when more people of my community
came to me about giving it back to the voters,
that's why I did what I did. The community voted
that tax in, they should take it away or keep it.

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Sounds reasonable, But when press for specifics, Steve Smith, one
of the four council members who referred to A, he said,
I understand.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Why they wanted to take it back to the community
for a vote.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Rather than explain what convinced him to risk school funding,
he insisted that Jimmy find two A supporters, while simultaneously
com claiming to speak for the majority because it's his
job now. If the people of Woodland Park, whose students
are benefiting greatly from the new board and the changes
they put in place.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Vote this down.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
You deserve what you get, which is crappy schools that
fail your children because you put politics above kids. Elon Musk,
Elon Musk, I'm not saying he's taken over the world,
but he's out on the campaign trail and he's talking
about getting people to vote for Trump. He has everyone
on the left's heads exploding over the fact that he

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is offering you, basically, if you sign one of his
free speech petitions, he then chooses a daily winner of
a million.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Dollars from all of the people that sign the petition.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Now is this legal, I don't know, because it's just
a petition. I don't think it has any like actual meaning.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I don't know. But he's making everybody crazy.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
But listen to this talking about the things that he
has had to do with SpaceX because of the government, and.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
That's typically the Iceberg. I mean, I got a bunch
of sort of nutty stories, you know, some of them.
I guess it's kind kind of funny. There's you know,
we had to do this SpaceX had to do the
study to see if starship would hit a shark.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
And I'm like, that's a big ocean. You know, there's
a lot of sharks. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
And uh and I said, well you have to you know,
this is the thing from from National Marine Fisheries while
you know Memphis cold uh and uh you know, They're like, well,
you have to do the study on where you're gonna
hit a shock.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
We're like what.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
And then then we said okay, we'll fine, We'll do
the analysis. And then well can you give us the
shock data? They're like, no, we can't give you the
shock data. Well okay, well then we're in a bit
of a quandary. How do we solve this stuffic, this
is this shock probability issue. And then they said, well,
well we could give it to our Western division, but

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we don't trust them. And I'm like, am I in
a comedy sketch here, Like they're worried about the shock
dancy data, like the people who hunt shocks for shock
fins somehow getting their hands on this shock dance the
shock data. And so eventually I think we got the

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data and we could you know, run the analysis to
say like yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
The shocks are going to be fine.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
But but they wouldn't let us proceed with launch until
we did this crazy shock data. And then we said, okay,
well now we're done, and they said, but what about whales?
Like when you look at a picture of the Pacific,
what percentage of the sofa area the Pacific?

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Do you see his whale? Because I see it look
at a picture. Honestly, any is like, you can't wears
the whale.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
And and honestly, if the ship did hit a whale,
it's like, honestly that weal had it coming because it's
like the odds.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Are so low, you know.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
It's like like Final Destination, the Whale Edition.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
It's like fate had it in.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
For that whale, you know, and so we have to
do the whale analysis. It's like, okay, yeah, the whales
will be fine too.

Speaker 7 (58:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
It goes on and on, and then they're like, well,
what if the rocket goes underwater it then explodes and
then the whales have hearing damage? Like this is real,
this is actually And we're like the look, if we
could make or I could go underwater and be a submarine,
that would be like a fet of physics. We could
not accomplish. Okay, this is not how it works. So anyway,

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just one like crazy thing after another, and that's.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Just him trying to get SpaceX off the ground. Kun
intended these kind of stories.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
I wish that more people who had to deal with
the government talked about these kinds of stories. But this
is how it goes. Because I've been a talk show
host now, had my own show since two thousand and five,
So I can't tell you how many emails I've gotten
from people who said, Mandy, you are not going to
believe the idiocy that I had to deal with in
the permitting department, in the environmental regulation department, in the

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whatever department, in this department, that department, And then they
send me this long email detailing a lot of crap
kind of like this, And then I emailed them back
and say, wow, this is nuts. Can I talk about
this on the air and they all send back the
same thing. Well, I don't want to make anybody in
the government angry. They don't want to hurt their chances
of being able to get something done by pointing out

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how stupid it is that the government says, what if
the rocket goes underwater? Then explodes and the whales have
hearing damage. I mean, you guys, it's one thing, and
I'm all for making sure that we are protecting the environment.
I don't want dirty air and dirty water. I don't
know anybody who wants dirty air and dirty water.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I really don't. I don't hang out with those people.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
But that being said, we've reached a level of stupidity
where things like this are used simply to throw up roadblocks,
I think many times, so people can justify their existence
on the government dole. Now, on a local level, this
kind of stuff happens all the time. If you ever
have the chance to talk to a builder of any

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sort about what the permitting process in Colorado are like
at this moment, they will tell you the most insane
stories you have ever heard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Ever you won't believe them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
But then you say we got to talk about this
on the air, and they're like, oh no, no, no,
no no no, no, no no no, because I might
do another project and I need these people, these same
idiotic people who are doing a terrible job and just
throwing up roadblocks to justify their existence on the government doal.
I might need them in the future, So none of
this stuff ever changes there was in Louisville, Kentucky. I

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got there in twenty ten, and when I got there,
they had been discussing a bridges project for forty years.
They are right across the Ohio River from Indiana, and
there's a lot of traffic between Louisville and Indiana on
a daily basis, and they pretty much had two old ass,
crappy ass bridges and they have been planning two more

(01:01:54):
bridges for forty years. Now Here, I'm a talk show
host stuck in traffic on one of those crappy ass bridges,
and I'm like, why do we not have these other bridges?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And I found out that there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Was an organization of all the really well to do
liberals that ran Louisville, the liberal Cabal, as I like
to call them, and they all belong to an organization
called river Fields. And in theory, Riverfields was there to
protect the environment. They wanted to make sure that people
didn't just run roughshod over nature. But in reality, Riverfields

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solely existed to block one of the river projects which
had the nerve to deposit people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
From Indiana in their neighborhood. And we got into it, really,
I mean we got into it on the air. We
got into it. I kept calling these people out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
They would do things like, oh, no, we know that
you've just finished in an environmental study to find out
about this tiny little bird that may or may not
nest near where you want these bridges to be. But
if you noticed, this kind of snail only appears in
this part of the river, so we're going to need
another two year study. And they did this over and

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over and over and over again. They use the system
to block the progress on the river. Now, just as
a point of order, those bridges now exist in Louisville, Kentucky,
and my listeners thought one of them should be named
the Mandy Cottle Bridge because I actually got it built
after forty years. But it really taught me a lesson
on how people will use the system and wrap themselves

(01:03:27):
into some kind of guys of we've got to protect
the whales, even though it's patently absurd that all of
a sudden, a rocket, which by the way, NASA has
been sending into space a lot since nineteen sixty nine,
would all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Of a sudden fall on a whale in the Pacific Ocean.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
And that was the reason to stop progress I mean,
it just gets dumber and dumber and dumber.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
So when I saw this, I thought, you know what, Finally.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Elon Musk is the guy, because we already understand Elon
Musk has fu money, right, he has the ability to
say I don't care what you think, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
What you do because I can fund it as long
as I need to fund it, and he has.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
If you haven't seen a ron, have you seen the
video of the Starlink or the Starship being landing back
on the landing pad with the arms coming in and
grabbing it and setting it back down on the landing pad.
I think so it is unbelieved. I thought it was
fake when I first saw it because until this point
Rocket Scott sent up into the sky. Once the other

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portion of the spacecraft decoupled from that booster, it would
just fall to the Earth, to the ocean, maybe to
be found, maybe not, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
But Elon Musk was like, no, man, we need to
reuse that stuff. And he is. I still think he's
an alien.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
How do you think, Aron, how do you think I
could get on his good side so that if he
does decide to go back to his home planet, like
he was just gonna bring Earth's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Best and brightest. How can I get on that list?

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
I'd like to know, continue to compliment him thoroughly on
the fifty thousand blowtors of the Rocky Mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Do you think he even knows we're here? Do you
think wishful thinking?

Speaker 10 (01:05:08):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Okay, wishful wishful? Quite okay, okay een. If you're listening Elon,
big ups, buddy, you're my Paal. I gotta say I
love Elon Musk. I love him partly because he believes
a lot of the same things I do when it
comes to freedom of speech. I mean, freedom of speech

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is sacre sanct and people on the left are trying
to squelch it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
As a matter of fact, I got a story about that.
I'll do it next.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
I'm not saying I'm president of the fan club, but
I am definitely on the you know, I'm the secretary
something like that. Elon for president twenty twenty eight, he
is he was not born here, so he cannot be
president of the United States. This person said Elon is
thinking about buying CNN. Huh, Well, George Soris just bought Odyssey,

(01:05:55):
which is a big radio company, so We'll see what
that does. Because he has a lot of concerns on Odyssey.
I'm interested to see if there is editorial meddling on Odyssey.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Maybe Elon does.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Lisson says this Texter. His brother owns a restaurant in Boulder.
Which restaurant, because I'll just start going hanging around there. Man, huge, Mandy, huge,
Elon fan here, just like you. Trump is just ick.
But I've decided I'm voting for his team. Elon, Toulci,
JD and Bobby. That sounds like a really good band, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Know what I mean, like a boy band, because Tulci
could go either way, like it could be a guy
name or anyway, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
That's the reason we don't have new refineries that are
eighty five percent cleaner than what we have operating today.
The environmental groups keep the oil companies tied up in court.
After spending millions of legal fees. The companies just give up.
And one more, Mandy. The video of catching the booster
is amazing, but doesn't do it justice. That booster is
twenty stories tall.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Looks like it might be a place called the Kitchen
in Boulder, and that's owned by Elon's brother founded by
Hugo Mathieson and Kimball Musk is a brother. Let's say, Kimball, well,
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
He asked like his dad has like fifteen kids or
something like.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Elon does relative Elon Musk. There you go, the kitchen Boulder,
Mandy Sperm.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Whales can belch out earsplit ear shattering well over one
hundred and thirty decibels, so scream if they go death.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Screw it anyway, I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Want to tell you, and I'm not spending a lot
of time on this because it's more idiocy in Douglas County.
And I realize that you guys don't live in Douglas County,
so you can't even enjoy how stupid all of this
is unless I tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
So here I am telling you again.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
You remember the soap opera of the Douglas County Commission,
where you have two members, George Teel and Abe Layden,
who have spent the last two and a half years
trying to, I don't know, get Laura Thomas to quit.
Laura is the third member of the Douglas County Commission.
She has been really troublesome for the other two because
she does things like ask hard questions about why they

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want to waste taxpayer money and stand in the way
of the boondoggle water project put up by George Teal
and Abe Layden and RWR. I personally, as a Douglas
County resident, can't stand George tele and Abe Layden. I
just think is like George little minion on my ballot.
I did not vote for George Teal. I don't want

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him to be reelected. I think he's a grifter. I
don't think he has the best interest of Douglas County
taxpayers at heart. And that's where part of the problem
with Laura Thomas comes from. And they've gone back and
done it again, dead it again. They have now reinstated
a censure that they put in place accusing or spreading misinformation,

(01:08:49):
disinformation or frank on truths in her weekly newsletter to constituents.
Now I get her newsletter. I haven't seen any untruths.
The problem is is that you she tells the truth
and they don't like it. Now, the funny part about
this that made me laugh. Seven months after it was
initially imposed, Heal and Laydon agreed to lift Thomas's censure.

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Thomas says she had approved a statement written by county
staff announcing the censure's removal, but abe Layden refused to
approve it, insisting he writed himself now. According to Laura Thomas,
abe Layden then enlisted a county attorney and his staff
to monitor her weekly newsletters and report any instances of misinformation,

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disinformation or mal information. How very democratic party of them.
Thomas called the practice a gross abuse of authority. And
it was, Thomas said, the review by all of these
people that are being paid by taxpayer. See my earlier
statements about these people not caring about wasting taxpayer dollars.
And I'm talking about Teal and Laden. There she mistakenly

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labeled a for profit organization as an on prom something
she corrected in her next newsletter. Ultimately, the reviewers found
no significant instances of misinformation, but abe Laden refused to
accept that the people he had charged with something so
stupid actually came back with an answer he didn't like.

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So he and George Teal have voted to reinstate the
censure of Laura Thomas more Douglas County. As the world
turns for you, if you have not already cast your ballot,
you're thinking of voting for George Teal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I'm just gonna say, don't do it. Don't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
There are signs all over Douglas County right now that
say Teal is the color of grift, and they are right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
And this kind of stupidity. By the way, Laura Thomas,
she's term limited.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
As soon as the new person has sworn in in January,
they won't have to deal with her anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
But that's not enough. That's not enough.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
They, George Teal and Abe Laydon have decided that they
are going to destroy the woman because she had the
nerve to stand in their way. I don't know how
they were going to get paid from it all, but
she's been the one looking out for taxpayers.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
They have not.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
And now they've decided to drag the whole thing back
into the news again by doing some dumb assy that
is completely uncalled for and stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
But you know who looks stupid, George Teal and Abe Layden,
That's who looks stupid. And I'm here to say it
on the radio. Okay, I'm done with that now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
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Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
I'm your host, Mandy Connall for another hour. Anthony Rodriguez,
he goes by a rod He's here as well. There
we go a little baby airhorn there. I want to
talk about as a study, actually an article on a study,
but it has to do with our perception of how
the economy is doing right now. So and I want

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to ask you your perceptions of how the economy is
doing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
And you can text me at five six six nine zero.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
You can be brief, you can say it sucks, you
can say it's great, you can say eh. But Americans overall,
according to polling data, are not very happy about the economy.
Even in May of this year, only twenty three percent
you participated in a Pew Research Center survey had a
positive view of economic conditions. When they were asked to

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identify very big problems facing the country, their top concern
wasn't immigration, gun violence, crime, or healthcare.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
It was inflation.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
The problem is that inflation has largely been tamed, not completely,
but largely been taped aimed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Now we're still dealing with higher prices.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
But according to data, at least the data in this
article that originally appeared in Business Insider, unemployment is low,
prices are moderating, and wages have actually caught up with inflation.
And that last sentence is the sentence I'd like to
know more about from you guys text to five six,

(01:13:24):
six nine, Oh do you think? Do you think that
your wages have caught up with inflation?

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Yeah, yeah, cause I would imagine a lot of you
don't feel like they were keeping up with inflation.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
The answer to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Why these disconnects are happening, though, could be in a
new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research. Traditionally,
economists have focused on the economic costs of inflation, what
they do in terms of driving up household spending, things
of that nature, wiping out everyone's annual raises, etc.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
But this new study examines the emotional cost of inflation.
How do high prices make people feel? The key this
is from the article Researchers found lies in the relationship
between inflation and wages in a normal economy, the small
raises companies give or enough to offset the minimal inflation

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we typically see. But when prices spike, companies still default
to giving more or less the same small raises. That
presents workers with a dilemma. Do they accept the tiny
increase and watch their standard of living fall or do
they ask their boss for a bigger raise.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
This is where it gets shocking.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
In a survey of three thousand workers, researchers found that
most a whopping seventy nine percent just accepted the salary
they were offered. Only twenty one percent took action to
secure a bigger raise, and doing that put them in
a situation people really hate. They had to enter into
conflict with their employer trying to land a bigger raisement,

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doing things like having a difficult conversation with their boss,
securing a job offer from a different company to use
as negotiating leverage, switching jobs entirely, or having their union
negotiate on their behalf. Inflation, in other words, requires people
to fight for better pay, which takes a toll on
their emotional well being. The researchers wrote, we find that

(01:15:28):
conflict with employers is costly to workers. Inflation imposes costs
on workers beyond its impact on real wages. The study
went on to find that most of us are so
averse to conflict that we won't even negotiate for a raise,
even though you think that you should have been paid
more financially. Those who don't put up a fight knew

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they were paying a price. Had they gone about for themselves,
they predicted they would have boosted their salary by two
percentage points.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
The fact that they didn't suggest something very bad powerful.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Most people hate conflicts so much that they'd rather leave
money on the table rather than speak up for themselves. Now,
this is really interesting because in doing a lot of
reading on things like the so called gender wage gap,
one of the things that I have discovered, and it's
a very interesting statistic, but I don't have the hard

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numbers in front of me, and I didn't have time
to look forward this morning, but a far larger percentage
of male job candidates will push back on a first
job offer and ask for more money, and I mean
like like seventy to eighty percent more.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
They are that much more.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Often to ask for more money right out of the
choot than women are, and that drives a lot of
the gender wage gap because when you have two people
that are both getting hired as an accountant. They have
the same job for a large company. Okay, so they
have the same job. But a woman comes in and
interviews and they say, we're gonna give you a hunt.

(01:17:01):
We'd like to offer you one hundred thousand dollars. And
the woman's like, great, I can't wait to start. Everything's fine.
They stay to a man, We're going to offer you
one hundred thousand dollars and the man says, hmm, you
know what, got a family to feed, I'm gonna need
one ten. Now, maybe the company says, sure, you can
have the one ten. Maybe they just say you have
one oh five. But already we've created a gender wage gap.

(01:17:21):
So the knowledge that that is not gender based, but
across the board, we don't like conflict. I hate asking
for more money. I really hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
I've always hated it. I used to be really bad
at it. Now I'm pretty good at it. But it's
not something that I think anyone enjoys. What's amazing to me,
and I say this to young women that I'm trying
to help move forward in their various careers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I always say, there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Is always someone at your workplace, who is less talented
than you are, who is not as hard a worker
as you are, and they feel absolutely no problem asking
for more money. Always there's always going to be that
dumb cough in your workplace, right that is always thinks
they're worth more than they actually are. So, yeah, I'm retired,

(01:18:08):
says this texture and can't get ahead. Gas is up,
food is up, but my retirement raises are not keeping
up with inflation, correct, Mandy. People on Social Security definitely
are not keeping up with inflation, especially considering how they
are measuring inflation.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
I hate conflict, but I don't feel the job market
is that great either. The job market right now for
some sectors is still very strong.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
If you're in tech, that's the sort of wild days
of tech, you know, poaching from other companies. I just
don't know if that is going to continue to be
a thing. I just don't see it happening.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
On inflation, I'm retired military, retired peace officer drawing social security.
I keep up with inflation by having a part time job. Mandy,
how do I think the economy is doing well? My
four and one K is doing great and I have
an obscene amount of equity in my modest house. On
the other hand, my kids can barely afford the rent
let alone that quaint dream of home ownership. I also

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look at the two bags of groceries and wonder how
that cost me one hundred and fifty bucks, and Pat,
that is the point, right there, Absolutely the point. There's
so there's this massive disconnect, and I think part of
it is because all the writers at Business Insider and
other news media outlets. They're in New York, they're in DC,

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they're in all of these different places.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
They don't feel the impact the way we do.

Speaker 10 (01:19:39):
They just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
I got a bunch of good texts. I'll read them next.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Many of you are not feeling the economy the way
that these writers from Business Insider is feeling the economy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Lots of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
Yesterday I bought my first and hopefully only, four dollars
gallon of milk. This a year after I bought my
first three dollars gallon of milk.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Mandy. Inflation is bad.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Getting married to a new wife who spends it will
is an even bigger challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Ooh, you better get that under control.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Money problems are very, very challenging for a marriage, especially
a new marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Get some help, get a mediator work that out.

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
Just saying inflation hasn't moderated, says this texture because product
packaging is getting smaller like potato chips, smaller portions and
restaurants that this CDP doesn't mostly account for. This also
means wages have not caught up to inflation. More government manipulation, Mandy.
The economy nationally, we stop the bleeding, but twenty two

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to twenty five percent rise while Biden has been in
office has been painful. Add that to the Colorado Dome
of dummies, convincing the populace to get rid of our
property tax controls and the raping of the citizens with
excessive property tax and insurance hikes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Correct, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Raising two athletic boys has made retirement investing little to nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Over the last four years.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
After cutting back on numerous avenues, I have supplemented my
family's income at fifteen percent per year out of savings.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Not sustainable.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
No, it is not.

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
No, it is not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
How many of you have dramatically changed your lifestyle. I
realized this.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Chuck and I were talking the other day. We were
kind of talking about you know our expenses and everything.
We've got a piece of debt we want to pay off,
and so we're kind of evaluating everything. And we looked
at how little we go out to dinner.

Speaker 7 (01:21:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
We used to go out to dinner a lot, but
we don't really.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
We go out to breakfast on occasion like that, as
I'm much more a breakfast person. But we used to
go out to dinner a lot, and we do not
go out to dinner very often anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
How about you and Jocelyn? Do you guys? I mean,
what have you guys changed?

Speaker 6 (01:21:47):
We We probably go out to dinner a little more
than we should recently, but we're also kind of in
a enjoy ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
You guys work your.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Tails off and you have been working extra hard as
of late, so you are enjoying yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:01):
No, I agree and appreciate it. I will say inflation
on all the Halloween stuff? Lord, do we spend too
much damn money?

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
A Rod, is you better post videos of this? Because
A Rod and his wife are planning an epic Halloween
party and he just told me about their costumes, which
I will not reveal.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Because I will never reveal it. You can torture me.
I will never reveal it. I'll dump it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
But yeah, the thing is is like, especially when you're
in the building process. You guys have a relatively new home.
I have every decoration I could possibly need till the
end of time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
That's the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
This is the this is the one time thing. Because
we did not have a lot of the interior go
all out Halloween bash. Now we have the bigs, We
have the containers of decour for years in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
So it was a.

Speaker 6 (01:22:46):
Upfront purchase, but still holy Lord expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Yeah, yeah, we went to buy it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
We went to buy a second Christmas tree because we
have so many ornaments from our travels now that our
regular Christmas tree has too much stuff on it, and
and our like a crappy and my crappy I mean
crappy artificial tree cost us like one hundred and seventy
five dollars. Oh no, we got ours, our artificial Christmas
tree we got the year after we moved here. Because

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when we moved here, I was all excited I could
get like the cedar swag for my staircase and all
of this stuff, and I got all of it. I
got the live Christmas tree and my family sneezed and
hacked the entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
It was in my house because we all have allergies.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
So we went out right after that after Christmas sale.
But our beautiful Martha Stewart snapped that bad boy together
Christmas tree and I regret nothing. I love those people,
like real Christmas trees are so much better. I'm like,
that's because you don't have an artificial one. Artificial trees
for the wind.

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
I appreciate the tradition of it and growing up we
had it, but yeah, the artificial is just you can't
be at all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
I would love to go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
Down because in the in Durango, the Narrow Gage railroad
down there, they have a thing you can hop on
the train, you go into the woods, you walk out,
you cut down a tree, and then you bring it
back to the train and they bring it back for you.
I would totally do that, but I would put it
on my deck and I would have an outdoor tree
cool in my house.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Too too much to.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
Yeah, maybe do none of your listeners know how good
we have it in the US with gas prices, grocery prices,
pretty much everything compared to the Western world. Lazy right
wing journalism to lump global issues on the sitting president.
Inflation in the US is the lowest in the Western world.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Here's the thing. It doesn't even have to be this high.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
But when you send out a bunch of crappy stinny
checks to people and print so much money, it's not
even funny. So your government could keep spending on stuff
that didn't do what it was supposed to do. That
creates inflation texture. And to be perfectly honest, I don't
give a ratsass what happens in the rest of the world.
But when I went to Switzerland, which is supposed to
be one of the most expensive countries in Europe, the

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restaurant prices there were cheaper than they are in Denver.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
So unless you travel, you can suck it. I need
to know if I am the problem here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
So an airport in the South part of New Zealand
they're on New Zealand South Island, has created.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Quite a kerfuffle.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
They have limited the amount of time that you are
allowed to hug when you drop people off at the airport.
Now a rod when you drop your wife off or
she drops you off, how long is the hug that occurs?
The have a safe trip call me when you get
their hug. How long does that hug take.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Both out the car full embraced? Like ten seconds? Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
In New Zealand they had to put the limit at
three minutes. You may only hug for three minutes. And
I thought to myself, my god, a three minute hug
would make me so uncomfortable. Have you ever hugged somebody
who hugs longer than you do and you start to
do that, you go to break away and they're just
walked in and you're like, Okay, we're gonna do this for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
A minute now hashtag.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
I just was like, ugh, I don't want to hug
somebody for three minutes. And don't get me wrong, my
husband and I we hug a lot. He's a very
good hugger. He gives great hugs. I love his hugs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
But even when we're like having a moment, right I
don't think that thing goes there. We're like thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Seconds tops max. That's if we're just having an emotional
thing right there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
So I'm thinking of myself, who.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Are these people that are at the airport hugging.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
For three minutes?

Speaker 10 (01:26:29):
How?

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
How is that even a thing? How do you? How
are you not keenly.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Aware of the fact that you're holding up traffic, which is,
by the way, why they put this thing in place, right,
They put the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Put the limit in place because people were holding up traffic.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
And I'm thinking to myself, how are you not aware
of all the people you are inconveniencing with a three
minute hug or longer? And if you hug for three
minutes at the airport, how long do you hug in
normal life?

Speaker 10 (01:26:52):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
I'm a hugger. I greet my people, my friends.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
I hug them when I see him, I give them,
you know, oh yep, maybe yeah, a bad pack on
the back, you know, like a whack, hey, good job.
But three minutes that just seems very, very excessive. I
need to know who these people are, these three minute huggers.
If you're a three minute hugger, I need to know, like,
do you get bored? What are you doing for the
what are you thinking about for a three minute hug?

(01:27:17):
Like sometimes when I'm in a hug, I'm thinking to myself,
I want this to be over. I don't like to
be hugged by people who don't that I don't know.
I don't want to I don't wanna be hugged by people.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
I just hugged body's mom because I was so excited
to meet her because I talked to her on the
show already. But I just found this to be extremely
excessive and a little concerning. And then I thought, maybe
something's wrong with me. Maybe the three minute hug is
the thing. Maybe everybody in the world is hugging for
three minutes except me. I'm breaking away, and then they're like,
what's wrong with her? I just found And by the way,
people are very upset about this three minute hug limit

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at an airport in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
They're not happy. The airport, by the way, serves the
university town. Maybe students hug longer. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
The early reactions this is what me up mostly negative,
with some describing the move as inhumane.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
I mean, you, guys, how long does a hug need
to be? That's my question.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Must be a lot of middle schoolers traveling. Do middle
schoolers hug?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Is that a thing?

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
My middle schooler is not a hugger. Maybe she is,
I don't know, She's not middle school anymore, Mandy. Those
people need to get a room now, okay, there's a
difference between making out with someone for three minutes at
the airport. That's that's a whole other topic.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Like just don't with that. Don't nobody needs to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
Do it in the car before you get out of
the car, if you have to have a makeout session.
But the three minute hug, Mandy, there's a lot I
could do with three minutes exactly. But we're just talking
about a hug here, Mandy. I'm sure it's not just
the hug, it's the talking and all the including Now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
That might be something. I think that's probably because I'm
a Southerner, I can tell you the Southern goodbye goes
on for an.

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
Excessive period of time, especially if you're saying goodbye for
a long time or for one of the last times.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
I don't know something, but you should have already done
that at the house. You should have already said that,
oh well, gotta get going.

Speaker 6 (01:29:11):
And if you talk for like thirty more minutes, no,
if you do an extensive one, you the last one
still like probably has to be the longest.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
I don't know. My people didn't do three minute hugs.
I'm just saying. And I was born below the Mason
Dixon line.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
Mandy, I have a five second rule for hugs, and
this person said, fifteen second hug is plinny. Now you
know what's gonna happen the next time I am in
a hug. I'm gonna be like one, one thousand and two,
one thousand and three, just to see how long the
normal hug length is, because I don't even know what
that is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
It does unnerve me when people lock me up and
don't let me go. It does make me feel a
little like a caged animal. But now I have an excuse.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
If I'm in New Zealand, I'm like, sorry, there's a
limit on hugs here. You're gonna have to break this.
Average hug lasts. How long do you think, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Average hug like a hug. I'm gonna say like five seconds,
three seconds. Some say the ideal hug is twenty or more.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Well, this person says, Mandy, hugs versus holding. My work
wife needs at least a two to two and a
half minute.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Holding when we meet. Now, if that's your work wife
and not your actual wife, I have issues with that.
It little something something on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Mandy, unless it's halle Berry I'm not hugging anybody for
three minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
There you go, There you go, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
You just said you don't care about other countries, and
your next segment is about hugging at the airport in
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
I don't care what people are paying for that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
It's a story about hugging that I thought was entertaining,
and I do think it's entertaining, but not as entertaining
as The Voice was a couple of seasons ago, when
a guy named Body came out on stage and started singing,
and I watched the Voice intermittently. That's I always watched,
like the beginning, the first part, and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Then I'll pick it up.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
I don't watch a lot of TV, so i'll pick
it up when I see it and everything. But I
followed Body and one other guy online. I was a
dedicated YouTuber. The day after the show, I'd go see
what was going on, and Body came in first runner up.
I personally think he got robbed, but we're going to
talk about that on the show because he is coming
through town right now. Body, welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (01:31:11):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
So nice to meet you. I met your mom first.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
I did it came on the show when you were
on the show, and it was just I love mom pride.
Mom pride is the best kind of pride. Dad pride
right along there with mom pride. But she was so
proud of you, and I felt because of that, I
was even more invested. And I might have said some
untoward things towards America when you did not win, but
you came in first runner out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Tell me about that experience.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Just you know, my brother was on a reality show
years ago, so I kind of have a little bit
of a feeling for the ins and outs of it.
But what is your experience on that program in terms
of how much creative freedom did you have to choose
the songs that you sang every week and develop those
songs with your coach?

Speaker 6 (01:31:54):
What was that like?

Speaker 10 (01:31:55):
Yeah, it was a shockingly incredible experience. I went into
it just curious if I could even get it a
chair turn and to see myself, you know, months later
in the finale was really wild, and I along the
way I was. I was pleasantly surprised with how much
creative freedom actually got. And that's not the story for everybody,
but I think for whatever reason, I was just kind

(01:32:18):
of able to wheasel my way in and.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Well, you had a little more experience than some of
the especially the younger kids that come in where they're
just green, they've got nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
So do you think that got you a little bit
of leeway?

Speaker 10 (01:32:29):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think the experience definitely played
a part of it. I think that just the relationships,
Like I was intentional with building relationships with production people
and man and speaking the language of the of the
band and like really buddying up with them, and I
was I was sending them, you know, tracks, and I
was like really arranging songs for them to learn and play.
And one of the musicians actually told me all my

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last my last rehearsal at the end of the whole
the whole season, he said, you made us work harder
than any other artists that's ever been on this show.
And he's like, I mean that in a good way.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
And it was.

Speaker 10 (01:33:00):
I mean, they were so sweet and so patient with me,
but I really I put them to work and it
was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Good for you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
I mean, that is a very intimidating situation when you
are sort of in the industry on that level. You're
on TV millions and people are seeing you, I think
it would probably be really easy to just defer to
what you were being asked to do or told to do.
And I got to tell you, there are times on
that show where someone sings a song.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
That for me, I hear it, I see it, I go, man,
that was just a wrong choice.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
And I always wonder was it the choice of the
artist or was it the choice of the coach or
someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
And I almost always feel like it was made by
someone else. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:33:35):
Definitely, that's definitely a big part of it, especially early on,
like at the beginning, there's so many people they're just
trying to get the auditions done with, and that I've
heard many stories I know personally, people who were given
songs that they didn't want to do and it didn't
serve them well. But I mean, it's a TV show
at the end of the day. I mean, anyone that
asked me now like, hey, what's your advice, I say, Hey,
whether you make it or not, doesn't mean you're bad

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at singing or christ singing. Because there's been people on
the show that weren't very good that made it really far.
And there's a lot of people on the show that
barely even made it, but maybe it didn't even make
it on the show that were incredible, And it's just
it's a TV show, and that's what you're signing up for.
You You're there to be an arc type in their
plot that they're developing. And I was blessed with the
opportunity to really they represented me really well, which.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Is what was your arc type?

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Because I don't feel I feel like you were like
you were maybe the off the beaten path kind of guy.

Speaker 10 (01:34:22):
They leaned into the family man for me, which I
wasn't expecting. I was expecting either the church guy because
I have you know, I have that in my background,
or maybe the family guy or maybe the edgy guy,
and they kind of let me be all of it.
But they had another gospel artist that was more the
church singer, which kind I think that helped me out
and he made it really far too good good buddy

(01:34:43):
of mine, But I think that kind of let me
kind of pave my own way, and they really helped me.
They let me paint the picture of like this is
the artist, the guy that's making his own version of
the songs, and they made me look a lot better
than I really was it really helped me go far
on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
You were your performance of gratitude in the finals, like
just when it happened destroyed me, and this morning I
went to find you to fit it on my blog,
it destroyed me again.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I was just like, it is such a beautiful song
and it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
It wasn't just the song itself, because a lot of
people have sung that song and it's a it's a
pretty song, it's a very If you go to a
contemporary Christian church, you have heard this song. So there's
a lot of versions of it out there, but you
performed it. It wasn't just you singing, and for me,
that was one of the things that drew me to
to you specifically. I'm a failed theater major from Coyllege,

(01:35:32):
so so I see a lot of people that will sing,
but they don't perform.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
You inhabit these songs. How do you choose the music
that you want to sing?

Speaker 10 (01:35:39):
That's awesome question. That song was easy because I have
a love for the Lord, and that made it a
lot easier to connect with the song because that was
the one song out of every song I did on
the show that wasn't about me. It was I was worshiping,
so that was different. But on a more generic level,
I think, I just I feel the lyric, I feel
the music, and I just I want to give it

(01:36:00):
everything I have to narrate and communicate that. Yeah, but
on the church side, I mean that song there was
I mean, my mom was there. Were you there as well?
My aunt? My aunt's in the studio with us today,
they're both there. I had home court advantage that night
because I had probably fifteen to twenty people in the
audience that were from my immediate church sure like right,
so we were all just worshiping. It was it was shocking.

(01:36:21):
You may not be able to tell them the live
you know, playback, but all four judges and this isn't
because I sing the song good. It was just it
was powerful, like it was speechless.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
They were crying. Gratitude is a huge part of my life.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
And I can't tell you how many times I'm walking
through my day and something happens and I say a
little thanks God for whatever that thing was, because that
is something that is important to me individually. I'm not
going to sit here and profess that I have this
incredibly you know, close walk with God. But I have
my own relationship with God and gratitude is a big
part of it. And that song just at that performance

(01:36:54):
because everybody in the studio, it felt like everybody was
sitting there holding their breath in a way that was good.
You know, what do you listen to who influences you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:37:06):
Speaking of church stuff, I'm definitely still very much involved
in that world of Christian music.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
But then you release a faith album.

Speaker 10 (01:37:13):
Uh, I don't know if I call it a faith album.
I'm signed to Sony's Christian label, so I make Christian music.
But I mean I'm playing a bar tonight in denber
So it's definitely not we're playing tonight your website, I oh,
it's the front of the page. Come on, I'm playing
at Globhol Okay, Yeah, it's tonight, me and my buddy Geo,
and there's another act as well. It's gonna be very fun.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
There's still kind of music are you going to play tonight?

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
My music?

Speaker 10 (01:37:38):
It's alternative, so it's very it's very loud in your face.
I have a band with me. My bass players actually
hear it, not too it's just real loud. You'll get
sweaty jumping around at my shows for sure. And then
my my other actor is playing with me Geo. He's
more hip hop, but more like you know, musical hip hop.
It's not as like club hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
I feel like right now is a great time to
be working in the faith music space because there's so much.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Music out there.

Speaker 10 (01:38:01):
Yeah, And I think I never in a million years,
And don't get me wrong, I've been a Christian my
whole life, and I've been very involved in the church
my whole life, but I never in a million years
was planning on being a Christian artist because I think
that that, for better or for worse, when you hear
Christian artists, you think, like, oh, like church music, it's like,
well no, oh well gospel music, no, And it's it's
a fresh time, I think in the music industry where

(01:38:21):
people just really are looking for like what's real and authentic,
and even in the church world, like people are like,
all right, are you just gonna judge me and be fake?
Or are you you actually love this God that you love?
And so I think that same posture is carrying out
into consumer like people just just consume music. And I've
noticed more and more of a of a crossover between
the secular and the Christian industries now, and that's why
it's a long story how I got there. But now

(01:38:42):
I'm signed to a Christian label making Christian music, but
I'm playing bars and I'm playing with artists that don't
have the same beliefs as me. And it's because just
because that's my truth and I believe that that's you know,
where my source of joy and peace and freedom comes from.
The Holy Spirit. But my music is just I want
to write from the fullness of who I am. And
for so many years I kept that out of my
writing because I didn't want to offend people that may

(01:39:02):
not have the same view as me. But that's not authentic.
And so I've noticed that as I've written more music
that's true and not everything's about Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. It's
just about who I am, and a lot of that
is about that. But I just want to write from
the fullness of who I am. And when I started
doing that, my audience expanded and my streams, not that
that necessarily matters what my streams expanded, and all these
areas and opportunities have opened up because I'm just being

(01:39:24):
honest to who I am and I think people see that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
I think that is it is a really positive thing
that you have more artists. Jelly Roll is one of them,
and he has talked about his walk with God, I
mean in his own way, but people, it gives people
permission to say, you know what, I feel the same way, yeah,
and that it seems so stupid to say it that
way that they need permission.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
But we live in such a.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Secular world that it is not okay in some circumstances
to say, yeah, this is the path that I'm walking.
And I just I'm so appreciative of you being true
to yourself in that respect, because it would have been
easy to become someone else in service becoming famous.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
So go see Body tonight at Globe Hall.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
He is so good and I'm just I feel kind
of like your mom, like I'm so proud of you,
just because it's a tough business to maintain.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Your own identity and we've seen it two upstars.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
I mean, I got a story on my blog today
Britney Spears just announced she married herself.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
That girl is not well.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
I worry about Britney again, like a mom, Like I
want a mom. Britney Spears is that wrong, but hats
off to you going forward. Now, at the end of
every show, we do this dumb thing, oh called of
the Day. Okay, now it's a little bit of a
game show. But nobody ever wins on the first try.
I actually we had one person win on the first try,
and so all you have to do is try to

(01:40:44):
participate in some manner. But you don't have to worry
about winning. Okay, everybody's a winner here on of the Day.
But it starts like this, I say this, and now
it's time for the most exciting segment.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
All the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
It's Guy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Old of the Day and it goes like this, A
rod my producer, starts with a dad joke. All you
have to do is laugh or grown. That's it. That's
all that you have to do for here. What is
our dad joke for the day?

Speaker 6 (01:41:08):
Please? They rod Well, I tried to walk like an Egyptian.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Now I need to see a Cairo.

Speaker 10 (01:41:17):
Yeah, I don't know about that one.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
Who was perfectly Those I love more than a hearty
laugh making you feel uncomfortably.

Speaker 10 (01:41:25):
I'm just disappointed, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Good What is our what is our word of the day?

Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Please? Word of the day is an adjective adjective limpid,
L I, M P, I D.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
What does it mean? Limpid? Limpid? Doesn't it mean?

Speaker 10 (01:41:38):
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:41:39):
It can't mean limp. That's too obvious. I think it's
it's like like tired, tired. I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Okay, maybe I can think of his like.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Limpid means something that doesn't taste, that has no flavor,
there's no flavor at all.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Limp.

Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
It describes things that are perfectly transparent or clear or there,
or that are simply in style.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Who knew simple in style? Now your beanie is now
a limpid item. There you got a limpid beanie.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
On today's trivia question, where in the world can you
find the Zimmer clock Tower and museum celebrating the work
of innovative twentieth century clockmaker Lewis Zimmer, Germany.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
No, I'm gonna get Simmer in Germany or Switzerland Zimmer.

Speaker 6 (01:42:19):
I'm gonna say Zurich, Sweden.

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
We're all so dancing around it. But it's Belgium, Lear Belgium.
In addition to telling the exact time, the tower's elaborate
clockface includes dials tracking the solar cycle, the lunar cycle,
and the metonic cycle. I don't even know what the
metonic cycle is. All right, so now we play jeopardy.
Are you familiar with Jeopardy?

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Betty?

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Okay, So all you have to do to answer a
question is shout your name, body, and then you get
to answer in the form of a question. Because I'm
super good at the game that I've created for my show,
I will wait until the end of the question. You
do not have to wait until the end of the question.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Okay, ready, all right, here we go. One thousand percent.
Definitely did not care this at all.

Speaker 6 (01:42:57):
To body, the category is let's play some music?

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
Okay, yeah, great? Yeah, no, definitely random, definitely totally.

Speaker 6 (01:43:02):
The general drift of the clue is that it's the
next to lowest voice parked in a four part harmony.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
Tenor would give you the point, but it's what is ten?

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
You blew it? One zero? We give one pass, so yeah,
I hang on one for you, one zero for me.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
Let's go loud dynamic music instruction and it starts with an.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Fdy, body, what is four? I feel the deck has
been stacked again? No, no, because I am not good
at music.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
This woodwind is not only a double read instrument, but
it's also got two sets of double letters.

Speaker 9 (01:43:45):
Body, what is obo wrong? Two sets of letters? Two
sets of letters, two sets of double letters. I have
no idea, but soon like I would have guessed that
now I do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Forget to tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
When you guess wrong, you do lose a point. But
you're still winning and I have to I'm gonna do
well here, so don't worry about it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
Regarding a piece of music, this is the end from
the Italian for tale, my friend, that's what it can you?

Speaker 10 (01:44:15):
Can you hear that?

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
I guess? Regarding a piece of music? This is the end.
It's from the Italian for tail my friend? What is crescendo?

Speaker 10 (01:44:24):
Dan it?

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
It was the only Italian word I could think of.
What is coda? God?

Speaker 7 (01:44:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
This is like the worst category for ever.

Speaker 6 (01:44:33):
Finally, similar to a portamento. It's the glide between notes.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
I have absolutely no idea, Body, Body, I'm just gonna
risk it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
This might.

Speaker 10 (01:44:45):
I might throw the competition now.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Because I'm at minus one.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
You've got one. You're gonna win, even if you win
with zero. I'm just gonna say, what is slur wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
What issando? Body? Nobody ever win?

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
But you did better than I did, and that's really
all that matters in the stem. What times the show
start at Globe Hall tonight?

Speaker 10 (01:45:06):
I think at doors are at six, Snope doors are
at seven, doors.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Are at seven. Okay, quick question? How long is the
appropriate hug time? Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:45:15):
Just in jet any more?

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Call and just like you, not like a bro hug.
You're hugging someone you care about, but not.

Speaker 10 (01:45:21):
Like you know, I think a hug is collaborative, So
like once you kind of feel the give release from
what I feel like it should be like a good
time like you hug and then as soon as one
of you kind of starts to release than other.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
Rea.

Speaker 10 (01:45:33):
It doesn't have to be times because I want to
hug my wife longer than I want to hug Aaron,
who's sitting here with you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Well, you know what, that makes a lot of sense. Body.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
You are an absolute delight. I was rotten so hard
for yes, and I think you got robbed and I
hope you have so much more success going for me.

Speaker 10 (01:45:45):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:45:45):
All Right, we're gonna turn the station over. KOA Sports
coming up next.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Keep it right here on KOA