11-12-24 FULL SHOW - What Does A Trump Win Mean for Healthcare

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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But I want to jump into the blog because today's
blog is a little bit all over the place, and
I just realized I forgot to put something on the
blog that I wanted to put on the blog. And
then more stories have broken since I did the blog.
So I'll have actual updates on the stories that I
just put on the blog this morning, so as you
can tell, it's a busy news day. Find the blog
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Look for the latest posts, and then look for the
headline that says eleven twelve, twenty four blog what does
a Trump win mean for healthcare? Click on that and
here are the headlines you will find with it.

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and say that's.

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Today.

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On the blog what changes could be coming to healthcare?
Another dem bites the dust I'm decorating for Christmas and
I don't care what anyone says about it.

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C dot is.

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Copying concert ticket prices if you get the enhanced Obamacare subsidies.
Trump will likely move Space Command out of Colorado. Colorado
voters they want good policing. When will you get your
taper refund? The Denver DIA's office is investigating Jenna Griswold's incompetence.
A pugram A program is underway in Amsterdam.

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Scrolling.

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Scrolling is politics destroying Thanksgiving This year, We've got a
whole bunch of new election deniers. What not to do
before you buy insurance. Trump's cabinet picks show he learned
a lot in his first term. MSNBC and CNN's voot
viewership has creatored Trump broke.

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The LA Times.

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Let's leave Michael Strahan alone. There's a girl's football clinic
this weekend. EDSNL talks election results, Mark Cuban forgot about.

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The Wayback Machine.

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Disney spreads magic but not ashes, the family of for income,
magic number, the new airport rules you need to know,
and now more doves jumping into leaves.

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Those are the headlines on the.

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Blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Check it out because it
is awesome. I'm just gonna say this if I I'm
trying not to hurt myself as I pat myself on
the back on this.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
The blog has been outstanding as of late. You know
how I know. I've been getting all these emails and.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Text messages saying the blog has been outstanding as of late.
So if you are not reading the blog, you are
missing out on outstanding, outstanding content. Now with the new administration,
the Trump administration that will be coming into office in January,
there are potentially some big changes coming to healthcare and

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health insurance. We're going to talk about some of those
a little bit later in the show. But my friend
Travis Bocknstead from Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care, this guy, I
mean up first, So I'm just impressed with Travis overall.
I love Pinnacle Advanced primary Care. They're a direct primary
care provider. They do an incredible job providing great healthcare

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for the people that subscribe to their model. And there
are some changes coming in the healthcare field perhaps that
could genuinely lower some.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Hell health care costs.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
So we're going to talk to Travis about it, because
I don't know anybody who knows more about his industry
than he does. So he is joining us, I believe,
at one o'clock today, Yes, one o'clock, and we're going
to talk to him about that. It should be very
good information, especially if you're in the process right now
of open enrollment. Did you do your open enrollment for here?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
And did you do it? Yeah? Of course I did.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Okay, I did it last week because you know, last day,
as is my standard to choose my health insurance. I remember,
do you remember the first time you ever signed up
for health insurance and a job.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
As late as I possibly could, I remember that right.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Let me just let me just ask you if this
is what you went through, because I will never forget it.
My first job where I had health insurance was working
for what was then clear Channel but is now iHeartMedia.
This is like when I first started my career late nineties,
we had this big meeting and it's a benefits meeting
and they're standing and there's a person standing up in
front of the crowd and they're explaining all these diferent

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options and they used all kinds of words that I
had no idea what it meant, no clue, so I
literally just signed up for whatever. I was like, Oh, okay,
had no idea what my insurance covered, and when it didn't, Thankfully,
after that many years after that, I actually became a
licensed health insurance salesperson, Like I got a license to
sell it.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
So now I know a lot more.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
But I talk to people all the time that only
have a rudimentary understanding of what their health insurance covers,
and that's terrible. You don't want to find out later
that something is not covered, right, You just don't. Travis
is amazing they don't deal with health insurance there because
it's such an inefficient system. But we are going to
talk about some of the changes that will come to

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healthcare because they're going to affect a lot of people.
The expanded subsidies, and I'm talking about the expanded subsidies
that Joe Biden signed into law or executive order. I
don't know if he did. This is why executive orders suck,
first of all, because they.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Can all be overturned.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
But he extended Obamacare subsidies to people making over four
hundred percent of the poverty level, and those subsidies are
scheduled to run out in twenty twenty five. But that
could be the least of the changes. As Speaker Mike Johnson,
who I have no indication that he will not be
re elected Speaker if Republicans keep control of the House,

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and that is still in the air right now. Isn't
it amazing that a week later we still don't have
results from some of these congressional races now someplace like
Alaska where they have to fly in the ballots from
all over the state and it's you know, it's very dispersed.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
I kind of understand it.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
But what the hell you guys like I find it
hard to believe that we couldn't have hand counted all
the ballots in the last week At this point, I
genuinely do not understand what is happening in these counties
or districts that is making it so hard.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
To count the ballots in a timely fashion.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
And I'm not one for way need an investigation, but
we need an investigation into why this has taken so long.
It's just stupid. I mean, my goodness, it's just dumb.
So we're gonna talk to Travis at one. We've got
that going for us. We have at some point during
the day, I have a confession to make. As a

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matter of fact, I'm just gonna start here. I'm gonna
start here. This is the tone I'm gonna set for
the show. I realized something yesterday. I am now one
of those people who is part of the problem when
it comes to Christmas.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Because you know what I'm doing this week.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
I'm decorating my house for Christmas, whole thing, top to bottom.
And I feel no regret whatsoever. And on Thanksgiving Day
I will feel gratitude and thanks and appreciation for everything
that I have and all of this wonderful, great nation
that we have where we celebrate the spirit of Thanksgiving.
And then the next day right back to Christmas, my friends,

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and I do not feel bad about it, not one bit. Now,
several years ago, I was one of those salty people
sitting on the sidelines. I'd walk into Costco right after
Labor Day and there would be Christmas stuff and I'm like,
what that douce Cosco And now I'm like, ooh, let's
see what they have. Oh, Michaels is already decked out
for Christmas. When I found out that Spirit Halloween was

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now rolling their temporary locations into Spirit Christmas in some places,
I was super excited. But the closest one is in
New Jersey and I'm not going to make that trip.
And here's the reason why I realized this as the
past few years, especially Number one, I love Christmas lights. Okay,
I love Christmas lights, and in January when people start

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to take them down, I start to get depressed. And
that's when it feels like ugly, boring winter. Right, So
I love Christmas lights. And then I thought, well, we
should have Christmas lights longer. Why should we only have
them like four weeks or six weeks or whatever.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
We should have them for a full two months.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
I think Ristmas lights should go up beginning of November
and come down after the stock show, so that would
give us three months in the middle of the darkness
of winter of Christmas lights, right, that is that is
the way to go. So I first started with Christmas
lights and then I thought, well, Nandy, you can't just
have Christmas lights.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
That would be absurd.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
But the reality is, and anybody who is in charge
of decorating their home for the holidays that has any
amount of Christmas decorations you know what I'm talking about
when I say that is a crap ton of work
to only have it last for a month. So I
am all in, I am. I am not skipping Thanksgiving.

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I am, I am, I am, I am merely I am,
I am. I am buffeting Thanksgiving with Christmas on both
sides instead of just having Christmas after Now, when do
you guys decorate a.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
Rod Christmas specifically or at all?

Speaker 5 (09:58):
No, you guys are decorating for every holiday.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
You decorate for Christmas every other year. We don't really
decorate too much for Christmas because every other year we
do a week long Mexico trip during Christmas. So this
year is the Mexico trip. We will not be decorating
much for Christmas. We'll put a couple of things. But
to answer your question, when we do decorate, it's always
and only exclusively to give respect to the day I

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was born, which is Thanksgiving always, December first, always.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Which is perfectly respectable.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
Yes, I would never.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I am not criticizing.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
By the way, you can sound off here on the
Common Spirit Health text line at five six sixth nine.
Oh text text us five sixty sixth nine.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
But I have realized that I love my Christmas decorations.
I have chosen them over the years. We have grown
our Christmas decoration collection, and I update things and I
swap in some new stuff, you know, But ultimately I
love my house decorated for Christmas.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
And even when we travel, I always put.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Up my Christmas tree because putting up my Christmas tree.
And this year, by the way, you guys, we now
have not one, but two Christmas trees in my house.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Why in how far apart in the house.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
They're in two different rooms.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
One of them is just going to be for our
travel ornaments, because everywhere we go we buy a Christmas
ornament from all of our travels, from all of our trips,
and now we have enough Christmas ornaments from our travels
to do one full tree of just travel Christmas ornaments,
so that one will go in the front room and
then the other one with all the family ornaments and

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the ornaments the kids made when they were little, and
the ornaments my mom made back in nineteen seventy something
when she was in her craft phase that I now have.
Those will go on the family Christmas tree by the fireplace,
so I can sit by the fire in a joy
my Christmas tree.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Okay, now draw the line in the sand. Make half
of the audience mad? Are they both real? Both fake?
Or split?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Now?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
We have really? Really?

Speaker 4 (11:55):
The first year that we moved to Colorado, I went out.
I was so excited. I bought a beautiful Christmas tree.
I bought cedars garland to hang on the staircase with
big bows on it. It was beautiful, and the second
I brought it all in the house, we were all hacking, sneezing, coughing,
and wheezing for the entire time that all of that

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greenery was in our house. And after that Christmas, I
said we cannot do this again.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
We went out.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
I bought my beautiful Martha Stewart pre lit tree, and
then this year I ordered another fake tree.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
And I have no regrets whatsoever none. I love it.
I love it, and they're beautiful beautiful.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
I learned anything beautiful from the Beautiful sitcom, the best
sitcom of all time in the office. It's when they
did a fake tree, but they had a little air
freshener in there that smells like a real tree and
make at least, you know, feel I have.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
I have a massive collection, and I'm not even exaggerating
when I say massive collection of pine scented candles, so
I can light the pine scented candle because the pine
scented candle. You know, some candles are like this, smells
like whatever in it doesn't. Pine scented candles smell like
pine trees. So you just light the pine scented candle
and then you go about your business and it's perfectly fine,

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perfectly fine, Mandy or a rod. Rather, what year were
you born on Thanksgiving? I was born, says this texter
on Thanksgiving in nineteen sixty one, and I really enjoy
it when it comes around on my birthday again.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Twenty two years after that, good zerr, that would be
eighty three. That would be ninety.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Three, ninety three, that would be thirty thirty thirty year,
three years.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Yeah, it's only happened. It's only happened. I think, like
a man a handful of times, less than ten times
in my life, including the day I was born.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Uh, Colorado needs to adopt Marti Gras. It keeps the
party going through February. Although a lot of my friends
who celebrate Marti Graus, including my brother who lives in
Las Vegas, but he has a huge Marti Gras party
every year where he flies in like hundreds of pounds
of crawfish. So they can he puts up a Marti
Gras tree, So they take down the Christmas tree and
put up the purple and gold.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
And white tree for Mardi Gras.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Mandy, the snow has made it seem more like Christmas
as well, and with the radio stations playing Christmas music earlier,
I think you're perfectly fine. Thank you, Texter, Thank you
very much. This maniac lights come down on twelve twenty six.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
What no, no, first week of January. By the way,
only five times my birthday ninety three, ninety nine, four,
twenty ten, and three years ago twenty twenty one. It's
only five times it's been on my birthday.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
This texter says, we have broncho color lights, so they're
going up this weekend.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
I find Bronco color lights.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
I'd put them up at the beginning of the season,
just dare somebody. We're just rooting for the Bronco.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
We are advancing our smart homeiness with all our different
lighting and now we can like change all the lighting
to all the colors of all the holidays and it's
so cool, nic so cool.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
A buddy of mine just got a job putting up
Christmas lights for a company in some houses. It's four
thousand dollars for two months. But you know what those
houses are, the giant houses that I'm assuming that people
who live in them four grand isn't that much to
not have.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
To do with themselves.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Well, we've been contemplating getting the knockoff jellyfish or jelly
the jelly lights.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, my parent of my neighbors got those, and I
have to say, first I thought they were gonna be tacky,
but within like six weeks I was just jealous.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
My parents have them. They're immaculate. There's some knockoff ones
you can get for like I think we could probably
do our whole house for three four hundred bucks. It's
oh wow, it looks nice, it really does, and it's convenient.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
It's done.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yes, you know, Chuck is in charge of the lights outside.
I handle the inside, and together we make it through.
And now that we have pre Christmas trees, our annual
argument over lighting the tree is gone. We've done away
with one of our annual arguments because of that. It's
it's quite nice. Maybe Christmas lights can be hung before Thanksgiving.

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However you can't turn them on until Thanksgiving Day. I'm
okay with that on the outdoor lights, but the indoor lights.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah. Yeah. My mom has two.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Christmas trees, says this text, are one for kids and
one formal. Again, why not, Mandy, I'm with you. My
husband would not let me put up decorations until the
day after Thanksgiving, and then I had to take it
down after January seventh. Since he's passed, I put them
up wherever whenever I want to.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
That's one upside of losing a spouse.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
This person says, we may just be related. I love Christmas. Yes,
we decorate every.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Year on November first, and indeed we all need more
warm and fuzzy lights during the dark of winter.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
November first is cool, But come on, y'all, give some
love to Thanksgiving for Pete's sake.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
There's a secondary problem here in that the day after Thanksgiving,
I'm getting on an airplane to go to Vienna for
the Mandy Connell Adventure for the Christmas markets down the Danube.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Can you put up some Thanksgiving things in honor of
your producer, please?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I will do a table scape. How about a nice
Thanksgiving tablescape? All right, there you go.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
My mom knows it's religion. We go there for things
with my parents every year, and the entire house has
to be decked out in Thanksgiving, has to be.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Mandy, Thanksgiving is too soon for Christmas decorations. The weekend
after Thanksgiving is still our tradition. Well, I'm not going
to be here the weekend after, so there you have
to You have to worry.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Inside is ninety five percent done due to too much
snow this past weekend to do our outside. Four year
old twins right after Halloween started demanding we do Christmas.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Oh why yo, he's on my side.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Two out of six trees are up, and this weekend
the rest go up. She says, hold on, shit, two
out of six, get out, yes, get out, yogi, call
us obsessive.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yeah, gather wine yogi.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
But if you love Christmas, you love Christmas.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Mandy, my next door neighbor has Christmas light's up twenty
four to seven, three hundred and sixty five days a year.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
That's not special. And you don't have an h o A.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I mean, you know, uh, how long do you keep
your Halloween decorations up there?

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Asking a rod Thanksgiving?

Speaker 6 (17:57):
No? No, no, no, no, they're they're down. They came down the
week after Christmas or week after Halloween. Oh okay, well.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Halloween, it feels like Halloween.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Those are so like once Halloween's over, it's like, okay,
we got to move.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
Yeah, it feels weird. It feels weird to have Halloween
decor I'm especially with when you go all out like
we do every year. It's like, okay, we're we're done.
That's enough.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
This texter says I'm a multitasker, so I can have
Christmas joy while at the same time being thankful.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Amen. Text.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Maybe I'll just start playing Christmas music right now then, okay,
respect Thanksgiving plate right now.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
No.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
I was in Vegas over the weekend and an iHeart
station has already flipped a Christmas What do you think
I listened to the entire weekend December one music Muss
music is my faith for it?

Speaker 6 (18:39):
No December first lights and music period Mandy.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I've always looked down on people who put Christmas up
before Thanksgiving. My fifteen year old daughter is totally modeling
the behavior that I've modeled her entire life. Now I'm
kind of wanting to start early, but I've created a monster.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
There you go, d sem or first, but respect on
my holiday.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Mandy Shields has some wax melts that have pine oil
and pine needles in it. We've put it under our
fake tree every year and get the same feel a lot.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Anyone else does a little train that I used to
do as a kid, the little cute little train that
was around the tree.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, we have one, but we don't do it because
we also have a Saint Bernard who thinks that train
is super cool to pick up and take around the house.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, I'm just saying a lot of you are on
my side and you're making me feel good. Let's all
enjoy beautiful lights and fun when we get back, can
we talk for a second about what is happening with
our Colorado legislature and vacancy committees.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
We'll do that next. Keep it here on Kowa. We
just came through an election.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
And Chris Hansen is in the Colorado State Senate. He
has been behind some of the worst ideas I think
to come out of first Denversity Council and then the legislature.
And I am not a fan. I was glad he
didn't become Denvers mayor. But now, right after he just
won reelection, he is expected to announce today that he

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is stepping down from his post as the Senator. And
I don't even know what district he's in. I don't
care because that's not what the story's about. I mean,
you know what, He's taking a position for an energy
supplier in Durango. More power to him, have a nice time.
There is speculation that he's moving down there so he
can run in the third congressional district in the next

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election cycle.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
And Lord have mercy if they.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Elect that clown to Congress, because he just is one
bad idea after another.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
But here's the issue that I have.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
The issue that I have is now that he and
I believe he fully knew he was going to be
going into the private sector while he was running for
reelection in the state Senate.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
But now he.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Will leave and his seat will be filled by what's
called a vacancy committee. A vacancy committee is appointed by
the various political sides, whichever side is in charge. And
way too many of our state legislature state legislators currently

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serving have been appointed at some point in last year's legislature. Legislator,
let me try that again. In last year's Colorado legislature.
In the state House, eighteen members of the House had
been appointed, fourteen Democrats, four Republicans. Now, before you get

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all bent out of shape about there being so many
Democrats appointed and so few, it's just because there's so
few Republicans in the House and more Democrats left. In
the state Senate, eleven members of the State Senate, nine
Democrats and two Republicans.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Were appointed at some point this year.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Already we have in the state House eleven lawmakers appointed
at some point, ten Democrats, one Republican, and in the
state Senate we've got eight seven Democrats and two Republicans. Now,
how is this good government? How is this representative government?
How is this allowed to continue? This is what I

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don't get. This is how we got Tim Hernandez and
Elizabeth Epps. Now, thankfully, when voters actually had the opportunity
to weigh in on Tim Hernandez and Elizabeth Epps, they
were semarily voted out of office. But these vacancy committees are
made up of hardcore politicos and they're likely.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
To appoint people.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I don't even know how they figured out how they
appointed Tim Hernandez and Elizabeth Epp, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
But there's got to be a better way forward on this.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
There has to be a more efficient way of filling
a vacancy in the legislature. And I am asking you
guys to help me come up with a way.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Because right now this is just not and I mean
not okay. Do you even know?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
I mean, I know who my legislators are, I know
who my House representative is, I know who my state
senator is, and they have both been elected to those positions,
including the people that just got elected to fill those
positions in this last election cycle. But why is it
okay for people to not have any say in who
gets into office?

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Now?

Speaker 5 (23:14):
I just want to point something out.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
I think one of the biggest reasons that Kamala Harris
and the Democrats lost the presidency is because they did
not have a primary. And then they turned around and
tried to tell us that by not having a primary
and just elevating a random woman into the candidacy without
a single vote, they were going to save democracy by

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doing that. And it was, on the face of it
ridiculous and they had to know it.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
I mean, they had to know.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Somebody in the room had to say when they came
up with this a new way for somebody had to
be there to go, you know, I don't know if
this is the best way to do this. We have
representative government where we are supposed to be voting on
our representatives. Now, Chris Hansen isn't a district that is
not competitive for Republicans.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
It just isn't.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
It's smack in the middle of Denver. It is full
of all the left wingers in Denver. Chances of a
Republican winning that seat are minute.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I mean just minute. But that being said, shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Another Democrat have been allowed to run for that seat
if he had come out earlier and said, Hey, I'm
vacating the seat to take a job in the private sector,
then some other Democrat in that district would be able
to step up and say, and I would like.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
To earn your vote. But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I think Chris Hansen, and I think Democratic leadership decided
that they would rather pick the person that was going
to be filling Chris Hansen's seat.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
They would rather, instead of allowing the.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
People to vote, because they don't trust the people to vote,
they would rather get one hundred people in a room
and choose the next Democratic senator without any input from
the voters.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
And that's just wrong. Why is this okay? Why is
this allowed to happen? Now?

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I've been trying to think about this, and I've really
been working on this really hard, try to figure out
an efficient way to fill these vacancies. And the only
thing I can think of is, at least if we're
going to go to the vacancy committee route, because having
a special election. Two things there's huge problems with a

(25:27):
special election, and they are Number one, they are notoriously
low voter turnout. Okay, voters don't pay attention. A lot
of times, they don't even know there's an election going on.
They get a ballot, They're like, I have no idea
what this is about. They throw it away they don't participate.
Voter participation in a special election is very, very very low.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
That's one of the problems. The second problem is it's expensive,
and I.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Don't know, I've never lived in a state where so
many people in the legislature just dropped out where we're
consistently here. Well, I'm gonna stay down. I don't like
the vitriol, or I got a personal issue. I gotta
people don't take this job very seriously. It's obviously not
that important for the people that are in these offices
because it's so easy for them to walk away. Now, yeah,

(26:12):
there's times when people have to leave an office.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Things happen, you got to move, you got a new job.
I mean, all kinds of things pop up. But the
reality is the voters still deserve to have some kind
of voice. So here's my idea, and you can tell
me whether or not you like it or you hate it,
or some variation of the two. What if What if
the Vacancy Committee took applications from anybody that wanted to be.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Considered right, and.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Then they used the internet to do a very specific poll.
If you wanted to participate, you had to put in
your name and your address to make sure that you
were in that district, because you should only be able
to vote if you're in that district.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
And then you get kicked to a survey which of
these candidates do you like the most?

Speaker 4 (26:58):
And the vacancy committee should have some some you know,
obligation to listen to the results of that survey. Now,
with technology, you can absolutely put this stuff online in
such a way that it excludes.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
People outside the district.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I've learned more about geofencing, which is the Internet's ability
to only send information into one place right, Like I mean,
if you guys understood how I Hurt Media's streaming operation works,
it's incredible. Like before we have the rights to stream
Rockies baseball. This is the best example. If you were

(27:38):
in the market, like you can't hear it within certain boundaries,
certain geographic boundaries, and now that we have the rights
to err it in this market, you can only hear
it inside certain geographic boundaries.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
And you think, how would they know?

Speaker 6 (27:52):
They know?

Speaker 4 (27:54):
That little computer in your pocket, your phone, it's sending
out information about where you are all the time, all
the time. So we have the technology to make this happen.
So here's my idea, you run a survey online just
for the people in that district. You allow them to
weigh in, and the vacancy committee promises to use that information.

(28:14):
One you can only fill out one survey, They'll use
that information to make their decision.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
That's the best way that I can think of.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Does anybody have a better idea? I don't know if
this one has legs. I think it should be something
like Thundernome to go in, one comes out. We'll talk
about this on the other side. Keep it on KOA.
People are pointing out VPNs virtual private networks could be
a problem, but there's got to be a way around this.

(28:43):
I mean, like I would be willing to provide an
email address. As a matter of fact, I do because
ballot track sends me my notification, so they have an
email address. There's got to be a way to make
this work because the vacancy committee stuff sucks. And somebody
said a special election still better than permanent appointment because

(29:05):
none of these are permanent appointments. Whoever is appointed for
Chris Hansen seat will serve out the Senate term, but
he or she has to run for re election.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Mark Millman on X.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Said this, and I think it's a very good point.
This is what they do talking about Democrats. They know
they will get re elected, so they win the election,
resign and put in a candidate of their choosing. The
Colorado Democrats don't trust their members to elect a candidate,
so they pull this stunt. When will you people learn
that vote Democrat? Learn this fact and it absolutely is correct.

(29:46):
Nothing says we think our voters are stupid more than
the Democratic Party's actions over the past four months. They
thought you were too dumb to pick a candidate when
it was clearly obvious to pretty much everyone that Joe
Biden was not capable of running the country, let alone
running for reelection. But instead of opening and here's the thing,

(30:07):
you guys, here's how it works. The Democratic Party would
not have had to have a press conference to announce
that they were going to have a primary because they
were concerned about Joe Biden's health.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
It doesn't happen that openly. It goes like this.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
The heads of the political party start to make phone calls.
They call people like Jared Polis, they call people like
Gavin Newsom, they call people that they know have aspirations
to be president and they say we're open to a primary,
and that gives them permission to jump in, because the
reason people don't primary and incumbent is because they will

(30:42):
not have the support of the party apparatus. And it's
damn near impossible to get elected, especially president, without the
support of the party apparatus. So if the party had
merely signaled to these people and said, look, we're concerned
that Joe Biden is not going to make it for
another term. Let alone, we think he's beatable in this
election cycle, and we want to let you guys know

(31:03):
if you jump in, we won't stand in your way.
That's all they had to do, and then we would
have seen Gavin Newsom jump in. We probably would have
seen Jared Polish jump in. We've probably would have seen
Freshen Whitmer jump in. Because once one jumps in, other
than Dean Phillips, who was never going to defeat anyone,
once people start to jump in, and then everybody's in

(31:25):
the pool, and then everybody hits the primary and you're
off to the races.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
But they didn't do that. They hid the president's.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Condition from the country as best they could, and when
they couldn't hide it, anymore. They stabbed him in the back,
and then instead of just walking away with the knife
in his back, doctor Joe Biden probably pulled it out
for him. He turned around, endorsed Kamala Harris and stabbed
them back. Ah, it was very machiavellian, and I the
more I think about it, the more I love it.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Love it, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
On a serious I could see something where you pick
the top two candidates, like with the proposal in the
last election, for the second place person would be the
replacement candidate somebody had to withdraw from the seat.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
The problem with that is is that.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Were there a Republican in the race, that Republican could
be number two, right, and the Democrats want to protect
their little fiefdom. They don't want the chance of a
Republican getting that race. So, Mandy, I wonder how much
money Chris Hansen's campaign raised.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Where does that money go?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
While I'm assuming he spent it, but whatever's left over
in a candidate's coffers, they have a couple options few
options of what they can do. One of them is
to donate it to the party. That hardly ever happens
unless someone is retiring from politics and will never be
running for office again. Most of the time they keep
it in an account separate because they can use it

(32:51):
in a future race.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
So if Chris Hansen does move down.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
To Durango to take this job, which he is going
to and then he announces in a year that he's
running for Congress in that district, he can use whatever
money is left over to run for Congress in the
third congressional district. So there's a lot of different machinations.
They can also donate it to other candidates. But I
would imagine that Chris Hansen is not done with politics,

(33:16):
so he's going to sit on whatever money he may
have left.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
And I have no idea how much money he raised.
I don't I didn't.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Care, I still don't care, you know. But that's what
could happen to it. Now when we get back. I've
got so many I think, interesting stuff, a lot of
interesting stuff on the blog today. But first we're going
to talk to my friend Travis Bock instead. He is
the president and chief experience Officer for Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care.
The Trump administration could be making some big changes to healthcare.

(33:45):
We're going to talk about that next. Keep it right
here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
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Speaker 4 (34:15):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
And now one of my smartest guests making a return appearance.
He's the President and Chief Experience Officer of Pinnacle Advanced
Primary Care, a phenomenal direct primary care organization that is
really helping demonstrate how free market solutions can be the
answer to our healthcare situation.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Travis, Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
First of all, thank you, Mandy, so excited to be back.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Well, we have a lot to talk about.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
And I always say I don't know anybody else who
knows more about healthcare and the delivery systems than you do,
because this your You consume this like water out.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Of a fire hose.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
And we're here today to talk about the We've got
a new administration, well new old administration coming.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Back under the Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
And in the first go round, Trump tried to repeal
Obamacare and failed again.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
The Republicans have failed.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Multiple times to repeal Obamacare, and I could argue pretty convincingly.
I think that Obamacare has done nothing but drive up
the cost of healthcare in this country. Nobody is paying
less unless they are on a subsidized plan than they
were before Obamacare.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
The care is not as.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Good, the premiums are more expensive, the out of pocket
costs are ginormous. But there's got to be a way
to take what you guys are doing in check market
forces in. And I think that the Trump administration has
indicated through Speaker Mike Johnson, that they are looking to
make some serious changes to Obamacare, giving up the notion

(35:53):
of repealing it. But that means because Obamacare is like
this giant umbrella over all of our healthcare right now,
the changes through Obamacare will definitely have an impact on
people and on our market. So what are your thoughts
about where we are now and what may or may

(36:13):
not because no real policy positions have been put forward,
But what do you think some of these changes might
look like? How concerns should people be about what's coming?

Speaker 7 (36:22):
So, first and foremost, Obamacare is It's a monster, right,
It is an onion that is never ending. And I
spent three days in Washington, DC in September on the Hill,
pummeling politicians with questions about healthcare, and they all seem
to dodge it on both sides. And then you talk
to your friends and family about healthcare who are really

(36:43):
unhappy with it, but they dodge the question that don't
want to change it. So what I think we will
see next year is that through the new administration, there
could be more choice, and it may require more involvement
from the health care consumer. At the end of the day,
if we want to change the healthcare system, we're going

(37:05):
to have to start looking at things in places and
organizations that are doing it right. Anytime you talk about
free market healthcare to people, I get a glazed overlook
because they have no idea what that means. So we
can't dismantle the whole healthcare system overnight. We need solutions.
And when I was sending you text messages, I'm like, Mandy,

(37:26):
I'm not hearing about any solutions. So what I would
say to my Republican colleagues and friends and conservatives is
that we need to identify something that's working. Direct primary
care is a current healthcare movement that is alive and
rich here in Colorado, where family physicians are saying good
riddance to insurance and creating a cash pay system for
their patients and clients to do a direct cash transaction

(37:49):
with their family doctor. If you have listeners who are
sixty plus years old, they will remember this, they will
know what.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
This is like.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
So we need to just start talking about actuals that
are happening.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Well, you know, I, for a long time, and I
mean a long time, perhaps the entire twenty years that
I've been on the radio, have advocated for some system
that looks like this. We have two kinds of health care.
We have emergency health care, which is you have a
heart attack, they put you in the back of the ambulance,
you go to the hospital wherever they take you. And
that's one kind of healthcare. Injecting market forces into that

(38:25):
is challenging because it is a spur of the moment.
You don't have time to call around, Hey what does
a HEARTCAF cost at your hospital? That needs to be
dealt with with insurance. Right, that's where insurance comes into play.
You're basically insuring yourself against catastrophic losses for an emergency.
But all of the other things that I call this
scheduled healthcare. When I go in for a checkup, when

(38:47):
I go in to have my hip replaced, when I
go in anything that I am putting on the schedule myself.
There is no reason why we cannot inject market forces
into that part of the equation. And I think, and
I don't know, I'm pretty sure that a vast majority
of our healthcare is delivered in that fashion, right It
is people going to the doctor when they have the flu,

(39:09):
or they just need to check up, or they need
a sports physical for their kids. That is the vast
majority of healthcare is delivered in that way. So that's
what I've been advocating for. And that's one of the
reasons that I love direct primary Care because it is
in a way free market choices. You go and say, look,
I don't want to pay an insane premium with a

(39:29):
ten thousand dollars deductible for my family and not be
able to get health care because if I have to
pay the first ten grand, I don't have that. Whereas
with direct primary Care, you sign up, you sign up,
you basically join the club. It's a membership program, and
then you're only paying wholesale pricing on the tests and
stuff like that that if you go through your doctor,

(39:52):
they're going to not just charge you wholesale pricing in
that price is going to be the people that manage
the insurance, the pass through all of these other costs.
So it can be done. You guys are doing it.
What is going to have to happen in your view?
Or is there kind of a one view of how
to make that a nationwide proposition. Are people too married

(40:13):
to the concept of my insurance is going to pay
for it before they're willing to say, wait a minute,
if I did this, I would actually save money in
the long run.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
We absolutely have an addiction to health insurance and we
are using it improperly. I was shopping around for tires
today for my car. I did not call Progressive and say, hey,
I want you to pay for my tires, because it
would go from a seven hundred dollars bill and all
of a sudden, my tires would cost ten grand. Right,
but tires are affordable because it's a free market where

(40:45):
you can go shopping. I think what scares the consumer
is we have not empowered them with any sort of
model that promotes the idea of shopping around and for
some foremost working on preventive healthcare. We have created a
sick care system the United States that makes money off
of sick people. Right, because getting to your family doctor

(41:08):
is a six month ordeal. They're never going to get
you in, so you end up in the ear and
urgent care for your care. What we're saying is, let's
start with restoring primary care and family medicine. Let's make
sure everybody has access to a good family doctor that
they can reach when something is going on. Good family
health care can take care of ninety percent of your

(41:29):
everyday health and wellness needs. So we need to start
looking and saying, hey, let's fix this first. We're looking
at a shortage of fifty thousand primary care physicians in
the next decade if we do not fix something. Seeing
thirty to forty patients a day is not fun and
doctors don't want to do that. In direct primary care,

(41:50):
they're seeing six to ten patients a day for about
forty minutes apiece. How do we do that. We have
changed the financing model for our practice. No insurance, no
government kickbacks, no subsidies, none of it. If we did
those things, it would cost forty percent more to go
to our practice.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Holy crap, it's that much. Just the bureaucracy, it costs
forty more.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
So imagine this, there are sixty nine thousand ICD ten codes.
People think that your.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Health What is an ICD ten code? What is that?

Speaker 7 (42:26):
So you talk about your elbow, there's a code for that.
You talk you have a complaint about your in laws,
there's actually a code for that.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Shut up.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
No, not at all.

Speaker 7 (42:36):
Because your medical record, yes, it's a medical record, but
it is a billing document at the end of the day.
So our practice accepted insurance, forty percent of our revenue
would go to sending you a bill at the end
of the day. So if we cut that mess out
and say, hey, Mandy, if you just want to take
cash to your doctor, it's kind of like cost go

(42:58):
for healthcare right membership and you're getting everything out of
wholesale cost. We dropped a lab cost for a woman
from eight hundred dollars same local lab. We negotiated cash
paid to the same lab for forty nine bucks.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
That is just I mean, that's I think part of
the problem, Travis, is that the medical services, and traditionally
are medical services, the pricing is completely opaque, like.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
We have no idea.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
You go to the when I was told and I've
told this story before, and I think I've told it
to you before. When I went in ten years ago
before I did regenerative medicine on my knee, and an
orthopedis said, well, you need to get an MRI, and I,
just out of curiosity, said well, how much does an
MRI cost? And he said to me, well, it depends
on your insurance. I go, but what does it cost?

(43:47):
And he had no idea, no clue whatsoever. And he's
the physician saying I need to have this, but even
he had absolutely no idea how much it cost. And
I thought to myself, that's a huge part of the issue, right,
is that everything is so opaque. We don't know how
much things cost. And even if you can, I don't know.
If you've gone to the hospital listing of pricing, it's absurd.

(44:11):
It is so dense and hard to read. If you
do not know, if you're not a medical biller, you
have no idea what's in those lists. They've made it,
I think on purpose, they've made it horribly challenging to
figure out how much something is going to cost so
you can make a decision about whether or not to
have that test or procedure. And a lot of times

(44:32):
those tests or procedures are only ordered as a cya
for the doctor for legal purposes. And I don't blame them.
This is the game they have to play. But there's
so much waste in the medical system.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
There is a vast majority of it's actually waste. And
I don't want to use this position's name to protect
their privacy, but I had a conversation with them and said,
what was your tipping point in getting out of this
mess and going into a direct primary care practice? And
they said, you know what, Travis is working rural medicine
and a hospital CEO set us all down and said,
I need you to order more MRIs And he goes

(45:06):
why And I'm paraphering this, paraphrasing this, but it was
basically like, if you want a paycheck, you will order
more MRIs And it's not medically necessary to do. If
any of you have ended up in the er unfortunately,
or urgent care you have so much blood taking out
of you, they do all the scans possible because it's

(45:27):
bill Bill bill right, And unfortunately, We have a bloated
system that relies on one person paying ten thousand for
their replacement and the other person paying one hundred. It
would be insane if we pulled up to a McDonald's,
got a burger, got to the window and they said,
a Mandy, no bill for you today, and you're like really,

(45:47):
and they're like, yeah, based on your insurance or your
food company, whatever, We'll send you the bill later and
your McDonald's cheeseburger is now ten thousand dollars, but the
guy behind you paid by right. That is insanity. We
would never allow that in any other system, but we
allow it in the most personal buying decision we make,
and that is healthcare.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
So there's a couple of things that I would like
to see, and one of them may come true sooner
rather than later, and that is Biden expanded the Obamacare
subsidies and they expanded them to four times the poverty level.
And there's a lot of people who are taking advantage
of that, meaning they are taking taxpayer dollars to subsidize
their health insurance premiums. Now, I don't want people to

(46:27):
be without health insurance, but the more people that we
take out of the pain point, the less people there
are to advocate for a significant change to the system.
But Travis, I think we are seeing now the government
is reacting because now the government has made an edict
that if you are on Medicare, if you are a
doctor who accepts Medicare, and all of a sudden, you're

(46:49):
not taking that anymore, as someone on Medicare can no
longer cash pay for physicians or there. I mean, think
about that for a second. Somebody says, look, I just
want to I want to cash.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Pay for this.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
I'm going to pay for it out of my own pocket.
The government has said, no, you are not allowed to
accept cash payments from patients who want to work outside
the system. That to me says they know the system
is jacked up, but they have to keep us all
in it in order to keep it moving forward and
make sure that everybody's pockets are getting lined.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
No, that's absolutely true. There's a few bills out right
now that would expand direct primary care to veterans.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Oh wow, that would be fantastic.

Speaker 7 (47:26):
It would be huge because we know they have access
issues and if forty minutes to an hour to spend
with a veteran, yeah, think about how many things you
could talk through. Then we've got the medicaid situation you're
talking about. They in the state of Colorado cannot electively
choose to go to our practice, or we could get
in trouble and soak the Medicaid recipient. I'm not asking

(47:47):
for Medicaid dollars. I'm asking for that Medicaid recipient to
have a choice right in their care. And then hsas,
why can you not use your HSA monies to pay
for a direct primary care membership right?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Do that?

Speaker 7 (48:00):
So, yes, the system is rigged in a way that
does not allow innovation to happen. But this is precisely
what we need to start to fix our healthcare system.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
What I think is a very interesting proposal. I can't
wait to see if RFK Junior ends up as the
secretary or some role at Health and Human Services, because
there are things that he wants to do, specifically taking
drug ads off television that I think would be a
game changer for just medicine overall, because so many doctors

(48:35):
are having patients come in and say, I want to
try this medication. It's the newest, most expensive. There are
so many ways that our system is distorted absolutely distorted, Travis.
I got to share some of these because now there's
a couple of them that have come in specifically about Pinnacle.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
I love Pinnacle.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Doctor Daiger actually spends time with you, and you don't
feel like you're being pushed out the door.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Through Pinnacle.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
My echo cardiogram costs less than two hundred bucks. I
was quoted over five thousand from a normal provider.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
It's working, it's happening.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
I don't know what else we can do to support
freedom in healthcare decisions, but we've got to allow people
to opt out of a system that is geared to
your point to run up billing. I got to tell you,
I think the main reason that the medical community has
endorsed the medicalization of children who are gender dysphoric is

(49:30):
because one of those patients is worth well over several
million dollars over their lifetime as a medical patient. That
is horrifying, but there's been too many medical professionals who
have said some variation of that for me to ignore it.
We have to take that incentive out of medicine and
just help people understand what.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
There is that's different or new, or or.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Options that they have to to make a different choice.
And that's really what it's all about, Like, let us
choose our own stuff.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
Let us choose our own stuff and take a step back.
I want your listeners to take a step back and
go every single thing we have the government do for
us for our healthcare. They can take away correct at
any administration, anytime, can change it up. I'm asking people
to own your primary care experience. Put your money where
your mouth is. Support a local physician in your community.

(50:31):
We have ninety of them across the state of Colorado,
ninety independent physicians doing this. Put your money where your
mouth is. I don't care if you have the Platinum
insurance plan. Invest in a local solution. Keep your Platinum plan.
I don't care. But just know that next year it
might change and your doctor may go out of network. Yeah,
but you own your Pinnacle membership as long as you pay.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
It well, Travis, I appreciate the conversation. I am.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
I just got a snotty text message from a snotty texter.
Can you give us a disclosure about how much you
were paid for this conversation? I will zero dollars. The
reason I'm talking about it is because I believe in it.
I believe that this is the way forward. I believe
that you can have a medical experience unlike the one
that my mother's having on Medicare, where she made a

(51:17):
list of issues to talk to her doctor about on
her annual checkup and her doctor literally said to her,
I can't talk to you about any of that, or
I have to charge you for a diagnostic appointment instead
of just a physical.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
And the physical was.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
How do you feel okay? Great, have a nice day. Legitimately,
that's what has happened to her.

Speaker 7 (51:35):
That's not enough night, and that listener can go to
dpcfrontier dot com and they can see every direct primary
care clinic across the country. I'm not an only an
advocate for US, I am an advocate for this entire
movement across the country because it is the moral thing
to do to change our broken healthcare system.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
You can also find Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care on the website.
If you're in the process of shopping for insurance, I
would urge you to at least investigate direct primary care,
even if it's not Pinnacle. We got a couple of
people saying, are you coming to Littleton or Lakewood?

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Are you coming to Boulder yet.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
So I don't know what your expansion plans are right now,
but I know that there's people out there who want
better access.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
I would tell you this.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
If you're in Littleton, or it was Littleton they were
asking about. It is not a far drive to Skyridge
Medical Center where they have an office. How often are
you actually driving to see your doctor? And they do
telehealth as well. I'm just saying I think this is
this is the answer for a lot of problems. And
that's why Travis is on the show because he's knowledgeable
and he loves direct primary care. Travis, I does your

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guest know of anything like this in the Atlanta, Georgia area?
What was the website again for direct primary care that
you could just put in where you are.

Speaker 7 (52:48):
It'll be DPC frontier dot org.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
DPC Frontier as in Direct primary Care Frontier dot org.
You can put it in where you are and it
will spit out the direct primary care offices in your area.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
So there you go. There is no such thing as
an independent physician.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
They are all employees and directions rolled down from the top.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Your guest is a unicorn.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
You guys, the physicians at Advance at direct primary care
own the practice. They are beholden to no one and
that is why they remain independent and can do the
things that they are doing.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Travis Bock Instead, great to talk.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
To you again and thank you for providing great information
for my listeners.

Speaker 7 (53:32):
Thank you, Mandy, appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
All right, Travis, we'll talk again soon. We will be back.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Keep it right here on KOWA. I saw this fun
tweet post whatever from our governor, Governor Jared Pullis, and
he retweeted a story from Fox thirty one the headline
more people moved to Colorado from Texas than any other
state in twenty twenty three, and our government added the following,

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come for the mountains, stay for them.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Now.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Obviously I choked on that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
A little bit, so I responded with my own quote
tweet with the following, unless you want to buy a
firearm at eighteen, or keep your kids from hearing graphic
sex in kindergarten, or want to be notifated if your
kid is gender dysphoric, or you want a plastic bag
at the grocery store, or want to allow fracking on
your own land close to the governor's vacation home, or

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what am I missing?

Speaker 5 (54:27):
Now?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
The internet has responded quite nicely, quite nicely, with text
messages like this or tweets like this. Come on, Mandy,
We're free to sell and use drugs, free to camp
on sidewalks, free to take over apartment buildings, free to
hang out on medians at intersections, and free to drive
anyone's car we want. How about this be able to
find eggs at the grocery store. Have you guys noticed

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the great egg shortage happening right now? Hey Rd, have
you shop for eggs recently at all? Have you done this?

Speaker 6 (54:56):
Yeah? We having too much of a problem, yasally?

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Yeah, apparently now there is some issue finding eggs because
the cage free rule goes into effect on January first,
where all eggs in Colorado have to breathe from cage
free chickens. Doesn't that sound nice? It sounds like these
chickens are just running wild, just running wild. They're free,

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they're running around, They're going to Disney, They're just running
around free. They're just plopping out their eggs all over
the place. And there's workers out there running around exactly exactly.
So the problem is this, Hey Rod, have you ever
been to a chicken house where they where they have chickens.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
That lay eggs.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Okay, well, if you had been right now, people in
my listening audience that have been in a chicken house,
they first of all, the smell. You're smelling it right now,
aren't you. It's like the worst smell ever. It smells
so bad, so so bad. But chickens in cages are
actually protected from other chickens who are mean, and cage

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free chickens don't have any more space. They're just not
in cages, which means other mean chickens will beat them
up and they fight and they.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Kill each other.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
So cage free is not the glorious situation that you
think it is now. I buy pasture raised eggs for
two reasons. Number One, I can afford the price point
because they are stupid expensive. Number two, eggs make up
a tremendous part of my diet. I eat so many eggs.
It's not I should grow feathers at this point. But

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I love eggs, and they're a great snack and they're
great protein. They're fantastic, and I figure, if I'm gonna
eat as many eggs as I'm eating, I should probably
have eggs from the happiest of chickens.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
Roy eggs. Do you think you eat it a week?
So I'm gonna expound that out to fifty two weeks
in the year, and I bet.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
Okay, So I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Probably, I probably eat I'm gonna say twenty four more
to thirty eggs a week? Really, yeah, because I eat
hard boiled it. I eat two eggs every morning for breakfast.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
I eat three every morning for breakfast, and then I
do the fried rice because I eat over one thousand
eggs a year. Wow. I mean, you do the math
on that. It's a lot.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Let me do the math on mine. So I'm gonna
go the low number. I'm gonna go twenty four. It's
even number because sometimes fifty two, right.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Yeah, So that's only twelve hundred and forty eight.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
That's more than me. I don't know. If you eat
more than me, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
No, But nonetheless, I want happy chickens, so I get
pasture raised eggs. And these cage free eggs are not
the wonderful, happy solution that people think they are. So
but nonetheless, now, starting in January, January first, you cannot
buy eggs that were not cage free in the state
of Colorado, and apparently it is creating eggs shortages, which

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is never good because eggs are one of the cheapest
sources of protein you can get until you require everybody
to buy cage free eggs and then they get more expensive.
So this is one of those do gooder activities that
just ends up driving costs for people on what should
be the most affordable form of protein out there, because

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it is. It's the cheapest form of protein that I know.
It's cheaper than tuna, cheaper than anything, and I love eggs.
But now, of course government creates a problem, and now
we have an egg shortage. So yes, be able to
find eggs at the grocery store is something else that
our governor has prevented us from being able to do easily.
Out of eggs says this texture. They only had the

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five dozen box. I had a lot of eggs, but
I'm not buying them five dozen at a time, so
I said, chicken house, not chicken ranch.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Texture.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
That's completely different, Mandy. I just came from Costco and
they were completely out of eggs except for the box
of five dozen, which are cage free.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Anyway, I'm bought the five dozen.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
It should last a long time for my wife and I.
If the chickens are cage free, says this texter. Are
they on leashes instead?

Speaker 5 (58:58):
No? No they're not. No they're not.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
Do they taste better?

Speaker 4 (59:04):
I actually think the eggs that I buy do, and
not all pasta raise. I buy the Happy egg brand
and Happy Eggs. The yolks are super dark yellow. They
just they look better. I think they taste better. Uh
that's just me. I have bought other pasture raised brands
that I don't think are as good.

Speaker 6 (59:24):
Happy edges I love are eggs.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
I don't think they are.

Speaker 6 (59:29):
Difference. I'll never never notice the difference.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Well, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
But you also drink red bull mixed with you know, wine.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
Wine? Get it right, Yeah, get it right.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Ralph says the rise and egg prices for regular eggs
drove me to try the pasta raised eggs. The change
is tremendous, so is the price. But the yolks are
the bright orange yolks I have first seen in the
UK and seen on Japanese cooking videos. The downside as
I'm paying eight bucks a dozen, but the taste is
totally worth it. I agree, I do agree. That they

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are better. So freedom, except when it comes to energy.
Polus only wants wind and solar for us Lucky Coloradin's
our expert costs or our energy costs are expected to
skyrocket in the next few months, lucky us.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Those are el Poyo to Agua gang chickens from Venezuela.
In those egg farms that from Dan. Well, if they are,
we'll see, Mandy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
You may not know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
The fresher the eggs are, the harder they are to
peel hard boiled. Well, Chuck bought one of those little
round egg cooker things and you line them up and
then you just pour water in it and you have
to poke a hole in the top of the egg
before they cook.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
But those, for some reason, they're not hard to peel.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
Here's a solution. Don'ty hard boil eggs because they're gross.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
What I mean, you don't like like hard boiled egg
on your salad or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Ah No, I love hard boiled egg on everything alive.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
It are scrambled maybe Sunday side on a good day.
No other way.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
There's no way I don't like eggs. There's no way
you can make eggs that I don't like them. I
can say that with certainty. Raw I said make eggs,
not just crack them into a ball. I'm not eating
raw eggs because I don't like raw whites. But I'll
eat an over easy egg if it has a little white,
I'll do it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
I'll do it. Mandy. Time to buy some chickens and
cajum in my yard? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Yeah, except I don't like chickens in my yard. I
got attacked by a rooster when I was like ten,
and I'm not even kidding, like you're probably laughing in
your car right now. Roosters are mean and they have
sharp claws, and they will chase you when you're trying
to come in to get eggs. And I don't like
being around chickens.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
In Weld County, I have around six farm fresh egg
locations to my eggs from for about three thirty a dozen. Well, Dan,
I'm gonna need you to de liver, then, my friend Mandy,
are we gonna have a smoky in the bandit where
they bring in eggs from out of state? That would
be hilarious, hilarious. All eggs are not equal and the

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color comes from the color of their ears. Other people
on the text line agree with you. I see no
difference with the bougie eggs. No, that's fine, more boogie
eggs for me, Just.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
No different Save the dore bougie, save the dough. Mix
it in with other things you won't notice now, And.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
The instant pot does make easy to peel hard boiled eggs.
All right, enough on eggs and freedom. When we get
back you guys, it's time to worry about CNN and MSNBC.
I'll explain right after this. Keep it on KOA the
sad state of affairs at MSNBC and CNN. Their ratings

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have collapsed since the election, and listen to some of
these numbers. Thursdays, total average daily newers on Fox News
came in at two point six million, with three hundred
and seventy five thousand in the coveted twenty five to
fifty four age demographic. Meanwhile, MSNBC brought in only five
hundred and ninety six thousand total viewers, with seventy one

(01:03:04):
thousand in the demo.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
CNN even worse four.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Hundred and nineteen thousand total viewers on Thursday, ninety one
thousand viewers in the demo. Fox News was up some
sixty percent year over year for the day, MSNBC down
twenty three percent, and CNN down forty percent.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
This is not good.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
And now The Daily Mail is reporting that CNN is
planning to wield the acts on some of its high
paid staff after dismal election ratings. The cap off a
disastrous period for the cable news network. According to an
exclusive new report from Puck, network executives will unleash sweeping
layoffs in a bid to save the network's flailing reputation. Now,

(01:03:50):
Chris Wallace, who has been at CNN for three years
after many years at Fox, announced that he was leaving
the network, and listen to what he had to say
about leaving. He told The Daily Beast that he'll look
to independent platforms like streaming or podcasting.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
For his next stop.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
As and this is a quote that's where the action
seems to be. So I'm curious as to what you
guys think about a whether or not these networks survive.
And you have to understand, running a twenty four hour
news network is extremely expensive. News operations, when done well,

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are extremely expensive propositions. This is one of the reasons
that newspapers are shedding local reporters, and in this situation
where CNN is not even it doesn't even have as
many eyeballs on it as some major market television news programs,
just like ABC, CBS or NBC locally, they can't afford

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to pay Anderson Cooper twenty million dollars a year, So
it's going to be interesting to see who makes it
and who doesn't. I can't see them firing Anderson Cooper,
but I could see them asking him to take a
pay cut. So this particular round of firings will be
geared towards the production side of things, which is not good.

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Reporters and correspondents are going to be more of a
one man's show than they have been. When you're in
local TV, you are often when you're a reporter getting started,
you are often a one woman show or a one
man's show, meaning you go out to cover a story,
you have to take the camera, You set up the camera,
you plug in your microphone, you set everything up, and
then you stand in front of the camera after you

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roll tape and you do your interview with the person,
and then you go back in the van and you
cut up the story and you send it back to
the main office so they.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
Can er it on the evening news.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
The days when every reporter had a cameraman are long gone.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
I mean long gone.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Gone for a very long time since dating back to
my days in college. Oh yep.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
And so the one man band.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
But when you get to CNN, you don't expect that
you're gonna have to be a one man band. So
it's going to be very interesting to see how all
this plays out. Now, ultimately, I'm guessing that most of
you in this listening audience are like, good, you get
what you deserve. Now, my question is they had ratings.
MSNBC actually beat CNN on election night, and then since

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the election their ratings have fallen completely off a cliff. Now,
why why do you think the people on the left
who have been consuming CNN and MSNBC relying on people
like Rachel Maddow to tell them what's happening, only to
find out that their heroes got everything wrong Because they've
been saying things like all the momentum is with the

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Harris campaign, all the momentum, this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
Is going to be great.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
We've got momentum, we've got ground game, we've got all
this stuff, and come to find out not only were
they wrong, they were spectacularly wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
So do you think what.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Is the reason that people have moved away from these networks.
I know why people on the right don't watch these
networks because I spent three days watching them after the
election to see if there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Was gonna be any introspection or maybe they were like,
you know what, maybe we misjudge the whole thing. There
was none of that, none of it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
You would think that if you got everything spectacularly wrong,
there would be some sort of you know, navel gazing
everybody during.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
This election cycle.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
I can't tell you how many people asked me on
a regular basis, they say, Mandy, who was gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Win, Who's gonna win? Who's gonna win?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
I don't know, you know why, because I've got it
so wrong in the past that I don't want to
put myself out there again. And I realized, since I'm
on the radio, I'm supposed to be bragonosious and tell
you I know what's gonna happen. But that's a lie,
and that's not how I roll. So it is just different.
And CNN, we'll see what happened. And MSNBC, I mean,

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it's hard to run these networks, But I wonder if
their viewers are ever going to come back, or if
they are so deeply embittered that they have turned the
page once and for all. Mandy, MSNBC watchers wanted their
data analyst. He has a cult following. What's his name,
Steve Dang Steve Keranaki.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
Maybe is that there data guy?

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
He was really the best point of the entire MSNBC coverage.
So yeah, MSNBC CN on election night because we all
went there to watch them cry.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Maybe maybe not?

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Is politics potentially ruining your Thanksgiving?

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
I want to talk about this next when we get back.
Keep it on KOA.

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Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Welcome to the third hour of the show. I'm your
host for the next hour, Mandy Connell. Join of course
by Anthony Rodriguez. And I want to talk about thinking.
Oh hey, love that one. It's one of my favorites.
I want to talk about Thanksgiving plans for just a moment,
Ay Rod, what are you and your beautiful wife doing
for Thanksgiving, You're going to.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
See the rents, going to see the rents. Yes, indeedy
every single Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Well, we we have our Thanksgiving traditions.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
We normally do it at our house, but because we're
leaving the next day, we are doing it at a
very very dear friend, our former daughter in law. She
is doing Thanksgiving for us. She's all excited because she
normally comes to our house. So I'm excited about that.
But I'm wondering if any of the folks in our
listening audience are running up against things like the tweet

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that I'm going to share with you. I'm going to
tell you this made me sad today. Genuine I'm not
even being sarcastic.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
I genuinely am.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Sad for the person that posted this on x It's
a man named Rick Taylor. He lives in Ohio. Obviously
a Democrat, he posted this on x dot com. My
aunt called asking about Thanksgiving plans. During the conversation, she
mentioned she voted for Trump. I told her my home

(01:10:25):
is not open to traders and I would not go
to theirs. I have no space in my life for
those who could care less about the United States. She's
upset fa fo. Now I don't I don't understand this.
I feel sad for this guy. I feel sad for

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anyone who puts politics ahead of their family. Now, there's
a lot of reasons to not talk to your family, right,
there's there's family. Family dynamics are the most challenging dynamics
sometimes that we in society have to deal with. And
I'm wondering if any of you and text me at
five six six nine zero are are dealing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
With this now?

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Right if you are, because this all happened when Trump
ran the first time, and people were super.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Mad and they got over it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
But I will tell you my friends on the left,
and maybe maybe the reason we're friends is because they're
not crazy. But my friends on the left, to a person,
are like, you know what, it didn't go the way
I wanted, but we're all gonna be okay, We're gonna
move forward.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
It's not my former I'm not my it's not my
favorite situation, and uh but I'm it's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
They're not excited about it, but they're not like the
end of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Oh clarification, Hey, Mandy, wait a second former daughter in law.
This is the former daughter in law of Chuck's oldest son,
who I don't claim because he is the oldest son
from a prior Mary.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
So yeah, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
My son Brian is still happily married to his wife,
so there's yeah, sorry about that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
I didn't know how to say it. I don't know
how to refer to her.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
I adore this woman, love her, I know, but that
that almost downplays what she is to us, you know
what I'm saying, Like she's a part of the family.
So I should just say a family member and leave.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
It at that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
That's what I'm doing from here on out. Mandy, is
your son gonna okay? Yeah, no, the son is No,
he's not going to be there. He lives somewhere else,
so don't worry about that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
My wife and dad here, wait a minute, my wife
and dad here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
What our son and daughter in law are not coming
to the holiday celebrations because we voted for Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
I'm heartbroken that, you guys, How do we fix that?
How do we fix that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Part of it is not your responsibility.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
You should be able to vote for whoever you want
to vote for and not not be held as you know,
some kind of anything but a child of God by
your family members. So this is definitely a them thing,
not a you thing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
But ultimately, how do you fix that? I don't know,
because this is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Incredibly sad to me because you know what, in four years,
Trump is going to be out of office, but in
four years, your family is still going to be your family.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Mandy MSNBC.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Joy Reid said exactly that distance yourself from family members
that voted for Trump. Do you know who else tells
you to distance yourself from family members?

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
Cult leaders?

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Cult leaders tell you to distance yourself from family members
because they're afraid that if you talk to normal people,
you might realize that you're part of a cult.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
And I have to think about that. I mean, that's
part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
This cult of politics has replaced religion, has replaced all
of these other meaningful things for people. Even though politics
it's a game. It's an ugly, nasty game that we
all have to play, but it should not dominate your life.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
It absolutely shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
My mom didn't talk to me for almost a year
in twenty sixteen. I've been married for over thirty years,
but I had to deal with her five divorces.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Yeah, you don't tell people how you voted, you go
by the rule no religion or politics at dinner.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
Can I just say one of the things that I find.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Annoying about people is when they won't let you just
say I don't want to talk about it. Before the election,
when I was irritable all the time because of the election,
people would come up and they'd want to talk to
me about it. Understandably, I'm a talk show host, right
they wanted to talk to me about it, and I
would look at them and say, I don't want to
talk about this. I talk about it three hours a
day on the radio. You're more than welcome to tune

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in and hear what I think, read my blog if
you want my opinion. But I don't want to talk
about this with anyone, whether you agree with me or not.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
I don't want to talk about it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Uh, it's frustrating, really really frustrating, Mandy, What are you
talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
The left?

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Is the Unity Group? Great show from James, Thanks James,
with lots of joy, Yeah, lots tons of joy. Maybe
not so much tons of joy except at Thanksgiving. First
start out by saying I voted with the majority of Americans.
That does not help you guys, I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
You're right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
Technically, you are correct, but it would be nice if
we could say to our loved ones, you know what.
I realize that we disagree on this, but I'm hoping
that as a family we can get together and catch
up on things that don't have anything to do with politics.
That's I just I don't understand this. I don't understand
people who are so broken by this. Joe Biden won

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in twenty twenty. Do you know how happy I was?

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
Not at all?

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
But guess what, Joe Biden's going to be out of
office in a few months now. Can I play some
audio because this is funny? You know, Joe Biden is
still president. He is still president. So a reporter asked
President Biden, as he was as they were being shoved
out of the room, as they are, if he can
get a hostage deal done by the end of his term.

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See if you can hear his response to the reporter.
If you can't, I'll clarify it. But really it's it's magical.
So she asked, can you get a hostage deal done
by the end of his term?

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Do you think that you can get a hostage deal
by the end of your term. Now, what he said was,
do you think you can get hit in the head
by the camera behind you? That was his answer. That
is what he said. What, Yeah, what all right? Do
you think you can get hit in the head by

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the camera behind you?

Speaker 6 (01:16:39):
Thanks?

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Praz Yeah awesome, ah, awesome. For those of us that
don't have radio shows, if we don't want to talk
about it, we're wrong. But you know what, if you
don't want to talk about it, you should be able
to say I don't want to talk about it. I
don't want to have this conversation because we disagree, and
I respect your views that are different than mine, but
it doesn't mean you're going to change my opinion. I

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don't want to try and change your opinion. So let's
talk about your family, your kids, how's work going, Let's
talk about the movies you've seen. Hey, Rod, let's talk
about Marvel. There's a million other things to talk about.
We should be allowed to do that. Mandy, just bring ducks,
goats and dogs for liberal family members.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
Agather, I don't, I don't. I don't get that. I
don't get that. We'll be right back after this break.
Keep it on, Kowa.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
There is a manufactured controversy going on right now about
Michael Strahan, and this is one of those things where
you know, I did not like the NFL kneeling for
the anthem. I just it absolutely made me furious because
of what that means to people who serve under that

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flag in the military. And I did not watch the
NFL for a very long time because of it. So
when I saw that there was a kerfuffle about Michael Strahan,
I thought.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
Okay, what are we doing here? Then I looked at
what the kerfuffle is about.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
During the national anthem, as the rest of the broadcast
team was standing there with their hands over their hearts,
Michael Strahan was standing with his hands clasped in front
of him in a very respectful fashion. Now, when I
was young, that was how you listened to the national anthem.
We didn't put our hands over her.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
I don't know why. It was just what we did, right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
We sang the national anthem with our hands in front
of us like this, and I didn't think there was
anything wrong with that. But of course the Internet has
to weigh in, and it's gotten even worse because now
The Daily Mail sent a reporter to outside Michael Strahan's house,
and Michael Strahan, when asked about it, just said, don't

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come to my house and grabbed the reporter's phone. So
now the Daily Mail says, furious Michael Strahan explodes on.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
A you come to my else, I'm gonna be the
exact same way.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
I'm one of those people that thinks that protesting outside
of someone's house is wrong, that coming to their house
to try and get a story is wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
I think people.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Should be able to go to their homes without being harassed.
And this just feels like a mountain out of a molehill,
out of everything that we have to talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
Everything that's going on in the world. What the heck,
you guys, this is just not that big a deal.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
It's time to do something about it. And that is
let people do stuff and mind your own business.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
How about that? How about we just mind your own beeswax.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Now, I realize that there are some people who believe
there's only one way to respectfully, you know, listen to
the National Anthem. I get it, but I think you're wrong,
And I think questioning Michael Strahan as if he's some
sort of communist, you know, subversive plant on the broadcast.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Team is just ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
His dad was in the military for decades, Mandy straighthand
didn't do himself, and he favors today by throwing the
reporter's phone. I just want to say this one more
time so everybody in the back gets it. I would
do the exact same thing. People deserve to have sanctuary
in and around their homes. And if you come to
my house to ask for a comment about this dumb

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ass story, then yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Throw your phone too.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
You cannot imagine. And I've had this happen, not a reporter.
So I when I was eight months pregnant with Q.
So I am ginormously pregnant, and I pull into my driveway.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
This is in Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
I pull into my driveway and here comes a white
serial killer van pulling up directly behind my car in
the driveway as I'm getting out and I'm getting groceries out.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
So I'm ginormously pregnant.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
I've got groceries in my hands, and out pops a
guy who figured out where I lived.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
And just wanted to say hello.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
I cannot believe how and the only word I can
use is violated that I felt it's not okay to
go to someone's house.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
It just isn't. It really isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
And I have Michael straight hands back on this. Mandy,
you put your hand over your heart during the Pledge
of Allegiance, not during the singing of the national anthem.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
He did it correctly.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
I say it's a you pick them because I put
my hand over my heart during the national anthem.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Now, But when I was a kid, I didn't. I
just do it, but nobody told me to.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
And if I didn't do it, if I just stood
there and I've had my hands respectfully in front of
me and I listened to the national anthem because God
knows it's.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Too hard to actually sing, that's my prerogative.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
But man, in the United States of America, boy, if
you don't do it exactly how everybody thinks you should
do it, they're gonna come at you in an absolute
ridiculous fashion. Mandy, Oh my god, I saw that live
and noticed and figured that's the way he learned.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
I was in the army. It didn't bother me.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
He was completely respectful. Give the guy a break, Mandy.
So wait, I thought your only biological child was cue. Okay,
let me do my family tree right now. It is confusing,
but it's because my husband just keeps ringing children into
the fold here, and that's fine with me. I have
one biological child with Chuck, and that is the que

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I have two older sons, Ryan and Phil. They are
my step sons, but I consider them my children.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
I just do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
I've had them in my life for a very long
time now, and I will consider them my sons until
the day I die. And then Chuck has two older
kids that are not his biologically but became a part
of the family through a prior marriage or because he
took one of them in in high school for a
variety of reasons, none.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Of them bad or tragic.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
But so he has two older kids that are not
related biologically but are part of our family. So that
is the family tree of the Chuck and Mandy household.
So there you go, Mandy. The anthem is just that
an anthem. It's not a pledge of allegiance. Big difference
of respectful reverence and an actual pledge or oath.

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
I have his back as well.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
I'm so happy that you guys agree with me, because
talk about a much ado about nothing. And my friend
Todd Starns, who I love. I've known Todd for years.
He's the one that started this whole nonsense. Little disappointed
in that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:25):
So good.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
We're all on the same page. Michael Strahan leave him alone.
I like Michael Strahan, think he seems like a nice fella.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
When we get back. Got a couple stories on the
blog we're gonna rip.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
Through in this last half hour, and you're not gonna
want to miss him because we've got all kinds of stuff,
new airport rules, Mark Cuban deleting tweets about Kamala Harris,
all kinds of good stuff coming up next.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
Keep it on, Kowa.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
The blog has been super good as of late, and
there's a lot of stuff on the blog that we
never talk about on the show. So if you really
want to be up on what's going on, you need
to check the blog at mandy'slog dot com every single day.
Got a story today about when you're gonna get your
taper refund. Long story short, You're going to get it
when you file your taxes.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
For twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
So as early as you want to file your taxes
than badabing bababoom, you will get your tape refund. Now,
I do want to point out that this will be
the last Tabor refund of any decent size that we get,
because over the last few years, the Democratic legislator legislature
has basically reassigned our tax refunds to pet causes that

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they have and people that they've decided need your money
more than you do.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
So I want you to remember that when you get
this table refund.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
Don't expect one that size next year, because all of
those table refunds are being directed to other people that
the Democrats like better than you. I mean, that's the
only thing I could take away from that. That is
on the blog today if you want more information about that.
The Denver Das Office is investigating Jennie Griswold's.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
Password exposure.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
I don't know why the Denver DA is investigating this,
and they're not telling anyone.

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
The Denver District Attorney's office.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
This is from our friends at Fox thirty one confirmed
on Monday that they're investigating passwords to the Colorado election
systems that were found to be posted online for months. However,
the agency will not comment more about the investigation, including
what has spurred the Denver office into action and then
they go on to talk about the fact that the

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passwords were on the web for months now. We were told,
and I'm inclined to believe it, just hear me out
that even though the passwords were out there, there are
multiple steps of security that would have had to have
been breached in order for someone to get into the
machines and make some changes to the operating system. That

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being said, the Secretary of State's cavalier attitude about this
league has led to certain quarters to suspect that there
was some kind of malfeasance in this election cycle because
Colorado was the only state that moved to the left
when the rest of the country moved to the right.

(01:26:20):
But I gotta tell you, guys, I think Colorado moved
to the left because we have been flooded with left
wingers from Texas and California and a bunch of young
people who moved here because they wanted legal pot and
they are liberal, they are progressive, and they have not
had to suffer the consequences of their decision making the

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way that people in California and Washington State have right
they have not been able to fully experience all of
the results of all the progressive policies that have been
put in place since twenty nineteen. I would argue that
in Colorado, so a lot of the programs that have
been started over the past few years, when the bills

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come due for those, Colorado is going to be even
more expensive than it is right now. As a matter
of fact, I have another story on the blog today
about the most expensive places to raise children and guess.

Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
What, my friends, we are in the top ten. Yeah,
it's a top ten. I don't want to be in,
but there we are.

Speaker 6 (01:27:26):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
They also have the cheapest places to raise a family
in there the places that you would expect, places in
the Deep South where there's not as much opportunity, where
you have to live in the Deep South, which.

Speaker 5 (01:27:38):
Is hot, really really hot.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
And so now we are number six in the most
expensive place to raise children.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
So we got that going for us.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
But thankfully, remember all the Democrats ran on a platform
of saving us money. Do you feel like they have
actually saved us money in Coloradoes?

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
The answer is no. The answer is no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
I don't think any of us, unless we had a
radio show, could even come close to thinking through your filter.

Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Home is your sanctuary. But if someone disagrees with you,
I believe it's because they don't have your public life,
correct Mandy. Colorado presidential vote went from D plus thirteen
to D plus eleven. House district was flipped to R
and it appears three Colorado State House Dems took to
be flipped to ours. How is that moving to the left.

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They did not move to the right in the way
that the rest of the country did. I'm just telling
you what's being reported my friends, just delivering the news.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
That is what I do, so.

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
So very well.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Now, a couple other stories that I want to get
to on the blog. There's a bunch of new airport
rules going into effect, and to know some of these
airport rules if you are going to be traveling. I've
got a video from Good Morning America on the blog
today so you can find out what exactly is coming
down the pipe.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
WHOA, hang on, I can't stop that. I'm gonna turn
that off. I just closed the window.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
I'll reopen it, but that auto started and I don't
know how to fix that, so we will just hang
on one second. Let me open this back up because
I got to get back to my page. Because I
had to close it to not make that play on
the radio. And now we're getting back to where I'm
vamping right now, and now here we go now the

(01:29:40):
let me see here good news And I love this
article from Colorado Public Radio. Colorado voters have come full
circle on policing now. I actually think that Colorado voters
never really left the desire for strong policing. I think
loud mouths in Denver and Boulder wanted to defund the police,

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but I think a vast majority of Colorado's realized that
when we have fewer police officers, we have more crime.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
And lo and behold what happened. We've had more crime
as police.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Not only we're feeling put upon after the riots of
twenty twenty with you know, lots of elected officials agreeing
with protesters that the cops.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
Were the problem. Accompanying the.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Repeal, I guess is the best way to put it,
of qualified immunity in Colorado, and now police officers can
be held personally liable for things that happen on the job. Well,
Proposition one thirty passed with fifty three percent approval last week,
and it requires state lawmakers to give three hundred and
fifty million dollars to law enforcement agencies in a one

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time burst. That is supposed to do us several things,
which is shore up recruiting and attainment of good police officers.
That's a big part of it. And they're providing a
fund for fallen officers so their families don't have to
worry about money at least as they're dealing with the
loss of.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
A loved one.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Now, the fact that forty seven percent of Coloradin's voted
against this ticks me off, but it does show that
a majority of Coloraden's believe that policing is important and
that overwhelmingly a majority of police officers are good and
respectable people. I don't know how we get back to
a point where kids actually want to be police officers

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when they grow up, right, I don't know if we're
ever going to get to a point where kids are
going to do what they did when I was a kid,
which is say things like I want to be a
police officer or firefighter when I grow up. Now kids
want to be a YouTube star. And that's, by the way,
that's not me making that up. That's actually surveys of
kids have shown they say things like professional video gamer,

(01:31:56):
which a few years ago sounded absurd, but now I
guess is actually a way to make a living. They're
not wanting to be these jobs because we've destroyed the
trust in the system. So, yeah, Mandy, the Democrats have
saved us so much money. We're okay with voting to
raise taxes.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
Except we didn't as quickly as we did last time,
did we.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
People said, no, don't raise taxes, don't do it. It's
not a thing that we want to have happened anymore,
which was nice, nice change. Now, the last story I
want to get into is a little bit ridiculous, by
the way. I have a bunch of stuff on the
blog about what's happening in Amsterdam right now. There is
a modern day program going on as young Muslim men

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who have immigrated from the Middle East to the Netherlands
are now going out hunting for Jews.

Speaker 5 (01:32:49):
They're trying to run them over with their cars. They're
beating them up.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
In the streets, and Amsterdam expects us to continue until
they do what I think needs to have happen, which
is anybody who's involved in them bust their heads. I
don't normally advocate for violence, but I'm kind of advocating
for violence right now when it comes to this issue
that is on the blog today, if you want to
check it out. Some of the video that I have

(01:33:13):
is profoundly disturbing and very very upsetting.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
So yeah, you're warned.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
But I put it on the blog because I think
it's important for people to realize how this level of
anti Semitism which is coming out of the Middle East
could potentially spread here to across the United States. This
is why I'm okay with President Trump at the time saying,
you know what, We're gonna not let people immigrate here
if they're from countries that say they hate us and

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want to destroy us, if they're chanting death to America,
they can go somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
I'm okay with that. I'm perfectly fine with that.

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
The last story that I have today is one that's
near and dear to my heart because growing up in Florida,
I grew up. Disney World in Orlando opened up in
nineteen seventy one when I was two years old, and
going to Disney was something we did all the time
when I was a kid. We went as a family.

(01:34:10):
I remember e ticket rides. AYN have you ever heard
anybody say, well, that's a real E ticket ride. Have
you ever heard that expression? No? Okay, So when Disney
first opened up, you paid I think it was like
fifteen or seventeen bucks a person to get in, right,
But once you got into the park, you had to
buy a book of tickets to ride the rides.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
And the little baby rides they were.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
A ticket rides where it only cost you an a ticket.
Then there was B ticket rides for the better rides,
and it went right up to E tickets, and E
tickets were going to be Space Mountain, right, They're going
to be a really good rides at the Magic Kingdom.
So an E ticket ride is a really fun thing
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:34:48):
So that's a real E ticket ride. Yes, Oh, he's
answered the phone.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
So I've been to Disney. I can't even you, guys,
at least fifty times. I've been to Disney, probably more
than that because when I was living in Orlando in
my last decade, we had a lot of friends who
worked at Disney who would walk us in and we
would spend the day drinking around the world at Epcot,
which is awesome if you're an adult and you want

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to go to Epcot recommendation, start going to the left,
start in Mexico, and then work your way around that
way because Mexico has the best drinks. I'm just throwing
this out there as a little point of order. So
when I read this story, I was actually kind of
laughing about it because I would ask my friends who
worked at Disney what the worst thing they had to

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deal with was, and they would say, well, you know,
occasionally a kid is in line and they can't wait,
and they either vomit or they poop in the line
and you got to clean it up. But they said,
even worse is when people come to Disney to spread
the ashes of their dead relatives, because that becomes a
biohazard situation. And as they said, dust blows in the wind, right,

(01:36:00):
So people would come and they'll like Pirates of the
Caribbean is apparently one of the big rides that they
want to dump their famili's ashes in.

Speaker 5 (01:36:08):
But they don't dump them into the water, No, they
dump them on the ride.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
So when that happens, because by the way, here's a
fun fact about Disney rides. At every point in a
Disney ride you are on camera. There are no places
in Disney World on a ride where they.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Are not watching you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
So if you think you are going to go into
the Pirates of the Caribbean and get a little something
going on, or the People Mover or any of those rides,
and you're going to have a little privacy, there is
no privacy at Disney World. They are watching you at
every single moment of every single ride. So people will
dump out the ashes of their loved one on Pirates
of the Caribbean. And here's what has to happen. They

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shut the ride down for quote technical difficulties. Then a
supervisor has to ride through the ride. They have to
find the pile of ashes.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Then they have a.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Special biological matter vacuum cleaner that they have to bring in.
They have to get all the ashes out. They have
to make sure everything's gone, and then they can open
up the ride again. What's the punishment, Uh, They'll they'll
evict you from the park and then they say you
can never come back again, which when I was a
kid was kind of a joke, like what are they
gonna do, Like, they'll they'll band you for the.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
Park for life.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
So, but when I was a kid and everything was anonymous,
how are they really going to do that? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
How are they? But now they take a photo of you,
like when you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
Go when you buy a ticket at Disney, they take
a photo of you and use biometrics.

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
So now I actually think it could stick.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
Okay, your two people have been banned for life from Disney,
but have gone back many times.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
If there's so they got the band lifted.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
No, they just went back because this is pre the
digital age, So how are they really going to enforce it?

Speaker 6 (01:37:45):
If there's enough people that want to spread their ashes
at Disney, you would think Disney would come up with
find some way to accommodyh yes, some kind of cool
accommodations for these families that had people that really loved Disney,
love the magic, to play into the magic. You would
think Disney would come up with some designated cool spot,
some cool way to have that be a thing so
people don't have to worry about trying to get by.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
I have made this exact same suggestion, and you know
the you know the perfect place for it, right outside.

Speaker 5 (01:38:12):
The Haunted Mansion. You got the faked anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Why not? No?

Speaker 6 (01:38:16):
Why? I think I think you want to do something
more more magical, more like tied it into the magic
of Disney for the rest of the live for there
hast to eternity like some some really cool spot, not
not playing to the fact that, hey, your person's dead
now they could be in our graveyard. It's got sense,
it makes sense, but it's not the magic, the the
good feeling inside that I think these families want.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
I get it, I get it, but the reason is like, yeah, though,
I'm serious. Arianna Grande's mother wants her ashes spread at
Disney and Ariana Grande was on some kind of podcast
and she's like, no, the Disney won't let you do that.
So she is, uh, she's I don't know how she's
gonna sneak. I mean, if Ariana Grande can't pull it

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up off, I don't know. What about the tunnel that
leads from the outside to a bathroom in Disney World, Well,
that wouldn't be a very good place.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
Yeah, what's the point at that point? What's the purpose?

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
Most of according to my friends back in the day,
and this could have changed.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
Most of the time, people dumped them on the lawn
in front of Cinderella's castle because there's like little lawn
space out there. But the lawns are so manicured they're
like golf greens that it's just a pile of ashes
sitting there. So it's quite obvious what you've just done,
you know what I mean? Man, I broke into the

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Magic Kingdom in twenty fourteen, did not get banned, Thank God.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
I love Disney.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
One of my friends got banned for life because they
jumped into the lagoon in Epcot. They had been overserved
and swam to the island in the middle, and they
were banned for life. They got pulled out by people
in boats. And then another friend of mine, we got
stuck in It's a Small World for like an hour,
and he got out of the boat and got out

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and started dancing with the little dancing piece.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
You being stuck, or anyone being stuck, is torture enough
listening to that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
It's a small where. It's a small where. I still
know the whole song from that experience.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Rob Dawson has joined us in the studio because now
it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
Of its kind in the Whoa of the day? All Right,
what is our dad joke of the day?

Speaker 6 (01:40:35):
What kind of felines can bowl?

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
What kind of felines can bowl. I don't know, Ali
kats Oh wow, wow wow, that was something right there.

Speaker 6 (01:40:52):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:40:52):
What is our word of the day? Please?

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
It is a noun, no excuse me, an adjective laybile,
la b I l e laybile.

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say laybile.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
That is the word.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Yeah, go ahead, Rob, I'll just just go after you.

Speaker 6 (01:41:14):
Yeah, I say the word labile. Well, what is it now?
Adjective adjective. Yes, I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
I'm going to say it's somebody who's mouthy, like somebody
shoots off their mouth a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:41:29):
Someone or something described as laybile is readily open to changels.
Can also be a synonym for unstable.

Speaker 5 (01:41:38):
Okay, okay, unstable? Got you? How much of the land
on Earth is desert?

Speaker 6 (01:41:44):
That is a question on Earth? On Earth thirty seven percent.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
I would say, I'm going to say sixteen percent here
about twenty percent, including cold and deserts like is found
in Antarctica. Deserts are found in every continent on Earth.
What is our category? Rob Dawson, Mandy, Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:42:07):
The category for today is finish the line quite particularly easy.
Here we go, Clark gable and gone with the wind. Frankly,
my dear.

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
Mandy, what is? I don't give it air?

Speaker 6 (01:42:20):
Doctor seuss is sam, I am. Would you like them
in a house? Would you like them? Oh? Man, that's
so closed, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
Sorry, I'm gonna say what is in?

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
Wait?

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
Read it again? Please? I forgot while you were telling.

Speaker 6 (01:42:34):
Oh, that's unfortunate. I don't think we get read.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
I would not like it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
What is?

Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
I would not eat them with a mouse?

Speaker 6 (01:42:42):
I will Can I give you a half point? Because
all right? With a mouse? Okay? Two zero? Oscar Wilde
wrote there is only one thing in the world worse
than being talked about, and that is these four words.
Blank blank blank blank. There's only one thing in the
world worse than being talked about in that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
Eighties Mandy, what is not being talked about?

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
Correct? Okay? In TS Elliott's poem The Hollow Men, this
is the way the world ends, not.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
With a bang, manny, what is? But with a whimper?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Direct?

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:43:16):
And for the sweep John F. Kennedy, The only thing
necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
Mandy?

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
What is to do?

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
Nothing? That is correct?

Speaker 6 (01:43:31):
That's sorry? That was gonna be a rough one.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Yeah, I appreciate all of you. Okay, tomorrow we will
be back. We've of course got KA sports coming up next.

Speaker 7 (01:43:42):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
I got a lot of fun stuff that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
I'm working on right now. Hopefully we're gonna have some
of it coming up this week, but tomorrow we are
going to have a couple of things, whether Wednesday and
and another guest, all kinds of it's just just stick around,
Just stick around. It's gonna be great. That's all coming
up tomorrow. Whatever it is, keep it right here on

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