12-17-24 FULL SHOW - The Tea on THC, Plus Cutting Back On Booze

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy connellyn on KOA ninety one FM.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Oh god way three Andy Connell keeping no sad thing.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome, blah blah, welcome q.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
A Tuesday edition of the show.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
It is exactly eight days before Christmas?

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Have you finished your Christmas shopping yet? Anthony?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
No?

Speaker 6 (00:40):
What are you just waiting until the last day? Yeah,
we're doing Oh that's right, jord, Well then.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Yes, the answer is yes, I finished it.

Speaker 7 (00:47):
Well, if you're not doing that, count is finished. If
you're finished.

Speaker 6 (00:51):
If you're not doing it, then yes, counts as I
finished it. Okay, how about you? Yes, I have a
couple little like ticky taggy things to buy here, so
you haven't finished. I haven't finished, but a vast majority
of the bulk of my everything that had to be
shipped to another location is shipped.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Huh, but not done.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
No, I guess I have a couple more things to
do here and there, but not a lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
No stress, no stress at all.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
No, this stuff is very low stress because this stuff
is uh. Tips and gift certificates.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
For cards a terrible gifter.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Well, you know, when you're giving somebody a tip for something,
you just you give them a gift card.

Speaker 7 (01:27):
There you go, a tip, A tip? What do you
mean you're giving someone a tip?

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Like the people who clean my house, we give them
a tip. My hairdresser, I give them a tip, like
hold on above and beyond, I give them a Christmas.

Speaker 7 (01:41):
Gift they do the work or just gonna go randomly.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Out like I have an appointment with my hairdresser tomorrow.
I give my personal trainer a gift every year because
I love her.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
So things like that.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
I mean, those are you know, little gifty items, but I,
you know, got it. I would not presume to know
them well enough to buy a personal gift. So a
gift card is the gift that every that he loves when.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
You don't have a lot of in runs out of money.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
I'm super satisfied with my gifts this year that I purchased.
I feel like, you know, normally, especially with Chuck, because honestly,
we're just at that point in our lives if we
really want something, we go buy it, right. So the
TV sort of took care of itself, but I found
a gift for him yesterday that I absolutely love.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
That is a chef's kiss. I'm so excited. Good because
I thought you were run to say the lazy oh
we both have anything.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
We was so he didn't get it each other.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Know, we always get some little stuff for each other.
But I found something yesterday for him that I was like,
I think he's really gonna like this.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
So I'm super.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
And it wasn't really that expensive. It was like a
little gift, but I think he's really gonna like it.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
Thoughtful correct, Okay, correct.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
So I'm super. I just feel really confident about it.
My gift gifting this year's uh.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Oh q is easy. You know, we talked about a pony,
and she doesn't want a pony. She's never of a pony,
I know.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Well, that's just any kind of electronic devices. She wants
every Taylor Swift final So there's a pretty standard teenage list.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
There that we've we've gone off.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
But we're also sending her on her school trip in
the spring to go to New York to see a
bunch of Broadway shows. So that's kind of also Christmas gift,
you know. So she has little gifts this year for.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Christmas, big gift for.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
You know, for you know.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yes, that was part of that was part of the
negotiation before we agreed to let her go on the trip.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
So it's like, look at you realize they will go,
this is your Christmas gift.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
You don't, and I will wrap up a small box
that has a hey you're going to New York in
the bottom of all you go.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Please do the big box thing.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
My parents did big box and then smaller box and
smaller box and then smaller box.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
In our house when I married Chuck and he had
the boys already, they had already established a tradition that
one gift every year is wrapped in duct tape.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Let them know year one, this will not be my gift.
I don't want to do that. And if you wrap
my gift in duct tape, I'll probably just leave it unopened.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yes I will.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
You won't.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
I will just make a call all that bluff.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
Chuck he won't because.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
He knows it makes me unhappy and he loves Christmas
giving Christmas gifts and he wants me to be happy.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
With my first cell phone. We did the turns of
the big box thing so worked.

Speaker 8 (04:13):
And I really absolutely now will be giving you a
gift in duct tape.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Funny that someone just sent this text to the Common
Spirit Health text line at five six six n I oh, Mandy,
will you also be tipping your radio producer this year?
Has he been good until he hands me a gift
wrap and duct tape?

Speaker 5 (04:31):
There will be a gift to you know, I have
a gift. Yeah, there you go. Let's talk about what's
on the blog. We've got very.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
Interesting guests today, and there's some stuff happening internationally. It
is so fascinating and I think a lot of it
is the culmination of years of bad policymaking. But the
election of Donald Trump has sort of set this these
cards or these dominoes falling right.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
So so we're going to talk.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
A little more about international stuff when than we normally do.
But I have a great blog for you today. Just
go to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look
for the headline that says twelve seventeen twenty four blog
the Tea on THCHC plus cutting back on Booze. Click
on that and here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 9 (05:19):
Anybe's listing office.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Half of American all with ships and clippers, at sea.

Speaker 9 (05:22):
That's going to press plant.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Today on the blog what's the deal with high concentrate THC?
Would you like to cut back on your drinking? Are
you bored with your Christmas traditions? Trump says more lawsuits
against the press are imminent. Walmart testing body cameras on workers.
Ukraine blew up a Russian general in Moscow. Rich people
in poor people have so much in common. Trump broke

(05:46):
justin Trudeau. Germany's government is falling too. There may be
a ceasefire in Gaza soon. Snowmanning is a tail.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
As old as time.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
The minimum wage is going up again. The Morrison speed
trap is finally for good. Aurora gives the Ethiopian community
a seat at the council. Healthy aging is simple. We
have another dark SkyPark in Colorado. The Denver City Council
makes more dumb choices. I want everyone afraid of Trump
to watch this press conference. Maybe this is why Biden

(06:17):
is nowhere to be seen. Voters want government that works.
I'm sure this isn't gang related in Aurora.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Another giant crap.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Sandwich is about to be passed in DC, taking good
game to the next level.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
What are plasmoids? This is one way to.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Get a tip. Donald Trump says that what we all
know about the drones, this is one way to birdwatch.
Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
And now, I don't know the last time I said,
you guys really need to watch this press conference, and
I'm going to say it right now. Yesterday from mar
A Lago, Donald Trump had a press conference, and amazingly,

(06:54):
he did not have a list of approved people to
call on. He answered a why variety of questions and
the reason that I want you to go watch it,
or more importantly, if you have someone so freaked out
about the Trump administration, like they're thinking of moving, they're
pretty sure they're gonna be put back in chains or
forced back into the closet, make them or ask them

(07:17):
to watch this press conference, because if this is the
Donald Trump we're gonna get in office. I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Now.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Remember after he got shot, Remember right after he got shot,
and we were at the RNC right after he was shot,
and he just came in. He was subdued, he was calm,
he was serious, and he was great until he uh
spent twenty three minutes talking about the shooting and then
started rambling for an hour and a half at the RNC.

(07:47):
But this guy has learned a lot. He learned a
whole bunch his first term as president. And he explains
so much of what he learned in this press conference
and this press conference.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
And I'm going to use this word, and this is
why I want you to watch.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Those people who are terrified of a Trump presidency, I
want you to have them watch this press conference because
it's just striking.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
In its normality. It's just so normal.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
It is a guy who is clearly in command of
the issues. He's not even in office yet. Has anybody
else noted that that Joe Biden is pretty much like yeah, uh,
the next guy can take care of that for you,
Like I'm I'm going on break now, and if you
want to just wait a few months, the next guy
he'll be able to handle that whatever your issues are, Like,

(08:38):
Joe Biden is just gone. This was very presidential. It
was nice to see a president who can handle a
press conference answering difficult questions. And I will tell you
something significantly different about this press conference, more than any
other press conference I've ever seen. I've never seen your
hair as flat as it is right now, Anthony, it

(08:59):
just a conference too and.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Your head and knew you would say something.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well, I had to. I've never seen it like that.

Speaker 8 (09:06):
Also, silk beanies on TikTok. Yeah, so much better for
your hair.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
Anyway, it shouldn't have made it that flat.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
It is straight up like like Eddie Munster flat.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
It is flat right now anyway. Sorry, it didn't mean
to get distracted, but in this press conference.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Trump did not bite on any.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
Of the nonsensical questions that were asked by reporters that
were clearly, in my view, designed to get him going
off on a tangent right, designed to get into kind
of wander, say something nuts. He was right on task.
He was right on these questions, even when they were
asking the questions like are you gonna let if k
Junior bring polio back? I mean, that's not exactly the question,

(09:49):
but that was a question, and he didn't bite on
any of it. He gave these really great diplomatic answers,
including an answer about whether or not they said, well,
is Rod DeSantis is going to appoint your daughter in
law to be the next senator after Mark Robio becomes
Secretary of State, And he was like Ron DeSantis is
doing a great job, Laura is you know, has done

(10:12):
a great.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Job for the R and C. But he's gonna, you know,
de Satans is gonna make that decision. It was it
was you guys.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
It was refreshing. It was really good. And if people
who are scared to death, who have been you know,
really fed this, this this dialogue that Trump is a
dictator and Trump's gonna come in and roll back all
our freedoms and put people in chains or whatever they've
been told, if they will watch this, perhaps they will

(10:42):
begin to feel a little more, a little more at ease.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
And we've got to do something.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
I read a story, and I read it after I
had posted the blog, so I didn't put it on there. Aero,
Do you know who Anna Kasparian is. No, she is
part of the Young Turks, and the Young Turks have
been okay, the Young Turks have had their own evolution, right.
They are a couple of guys. I don't know their names,
but they're hardcore lefties. Ten years ago, the Young Turks

(11:12):
were like screaming progressives.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Ten years ago. Well, now I think they have enough
seasoning under their belt, and I think they've seen enough
crap happen that they are still decidedly on the left,
no doubt about that.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
But even they have started to say, you know, some
of this stuff happening on the left is kind of crazy.
And Anna Casparian is part of the Young Turks. But
Anna Caspiri and she has not been red pilled in
any way, shape or form, but she is still on
the left. But she just went on the Glenn Beck
Show and they had a great conversation. They didn't agree
on everything, but they did find points of agreement.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
But it was a really.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Good conversation where Anna Caspian did this phenomenal job of
explaining her views from the left, on her views of
how problems should be solved.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
And there's some areas where.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
I think she is so spectacularly wrong, Medicare for All
being the number one thing that is, I mean, that
is a disaster, an absolute disaster. But other than that,
she did a great job representing why she feels the
way she does about positions from the left. And of
course Glenn Beck talked about things he'd been wrong about

(12:19):
in the past, and you know, things he had learned
over all of his years being a broadcaster, and it
was a fascinating conversation, so of course the internet explodes
with Anna Caspery it is the devil.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
She sold her sold to the right.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
I mean it it was had You could tell immediately
none of these people had watched the conversation, or if
they did, they were so invested in their tribalism that
they don't want to hear a reasonable conversation between people
who disagree to Ana Casperrian's credit, she wrote a great
substat column about.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
It where she said, look, I'm not going.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
To stop engaging with people who don't agree with me,
because we can't go through life not doing that. And
her attitude was, I would love to come on a
show where I'm speaking to an entirely new audience about
my viewpoints, why I feel the way I do, and
share my viewpoint with them and then learn a little
bit about what they think at the same time. And

(13:12):
I thought, yes, yes, Anna Casperian, Yes, it was so good.
It was just so good. But she's the kind of
person that I think if Anna Casperian watched this press conference,
she would maybe disagree with some of the policy positions
that Trump is talking about, but you can clearly see
the man is not Hitler. The man's not a lunatic.

(13:35):
He's not a maniac.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
He's not gonna have everybody goosestepping.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Across the White House lawn. So it's very very interesting.
He laid out a lot of policy positions. I am guessing.
I'm just gonna guess here. The first hundred days of
Donald Trump's administration are going to be so action packed.
It's going to be mind blowing because he learned, he

(13:58):
learned the last time what happens if he lets any
grass grow under his feet. And some of the appointments
that he's made, I mean, if they're confirmed, they are
diametrically opposed with the bureaucracies that they are going to
be overseeing. That's going to create a bit of chaos.
But I think chaos that's way overdue. Let's call it

(14:19):
a period of creative destruction and the department of Government efficiency.
I am rooting so hard for this every day. If
you're not following, if you're on Twitter, first of all,
if you're on X, I guess I should start calling
it X. I'm trying so hard, but old habits die hard.
If you're on X and you're not following, Doge which
is the Department of Government Efficiency. You are missing out
on all kinds of little snippets of stuff that they

(14:41):
are dropping in and saying, oh, look, we just found this.
We found a study on how cocaine affects them reproductive
systems and monkeys, and I mean all of these various things.
So I'm hoping that we can get this all moving
in the right direction because it's so important when we
talk later in the show today, I've got a story
about Germany's government collapsing. And when I say government collapsing,

(15:03):
you have to understand in Europe, in the parliamentary system,
they don't have the two party system. They have multiple parties.
So when people get elected, like say, there's twenty parties,
and in some states and countries there's even more parties
than that. So then you're going to create the legislature
out of these twenty parties, the parties that have maybe

(15:24):
one party I'll use one hundred for just a round number.
Maybe one party gets thirty seats, one party gets ten seats,
one party gets five seats, fifteen parties get three seats. Well,
then they have to create a majority coalition out of
all these different parties to create a government and most
of the time create a pick a chancellor, a prime minister,
or whatever the leadership is going to be. So Germany's

(15:47):
government chancellor, what's his first name, Oloff Schultz, he was
wildly unpopular.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Germany is in a very bad way, and his coalition
government just colapsed and he called a vote in parliament
and the vote came back no contest.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
So instead of waiting until September to have elections, they're
now going to have elections in Germany in February. Why
is all this happening because Germany did the same stuff
we are pursuing in the United States of America under
democratic leadership, especially.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Here in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
And the fact that our incredibly intelligent governor, and though
we disagree politically, don't ever discount the intelligence of Jered Polis.
He is super super super intelligent, I mean really intelligent.
So it bothers me that he's still pursuing this fantasy
of net zero knowing what it's done to the economy
of Germany.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
He has to know. If he doesn't know, he could
just listen to the show after I had talking about it. Later.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Now I've got a couple guests coming up and one
of them is coming up. Let me see here, We've
got one coming up at one thirty.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
One coming up at two thirty.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
The Colorado Department of Public Health Environment is about to start.
I think it starts today a new campaign called the
Tea about THHC, Meaning they're trying to give the facts
about the kind of levels of THHC that we have
in the marijuana products that we have in Colorado and
how different they are from the products that we had

(17:20):
back in the day when you used to buy weed
from a you know, like Mexican ditch weed.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
You know that is starting. So we're gonna talk to
them at one.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Thirty, and then at two thirty I have one of
the who specializes in helping people cut back on their drinking.
Some people may not be ready to quit drinking, but
maybe they realize they're drinking too much and they want
to get a handle on it.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
That is coming up at two thirty. But when we get.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Back, I have a Christmas question. I usually wait until
the end, like the last hour of the show, but
I feel like the last hour of the show gets
all the good fluff, and you guys don't get that
much fluff in the first hour.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
So we're gonna do a little fluff here.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
I have a story that says thirty one percent of
Americans are tired of their Christmas traditions. I find this crazy.
We're gonna talk about that. Next one, says Mandy. It's
because you and your you and others in your profession
refuse to say that Polis is evil, and most true
evil people.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Are very smart.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
I absolutely reject the notion that Jared Polis is evil
just out of hand.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
He is not an evil person.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
He's wrong about a lot of stuff, but that does
not make him evil, and that is not helpful. Be
like Anakisparian, Let be open to finding out why people
feel the way they do. In my mind, and I
was talking to Ross about this earlier, Jared Poulis is
one of those people like John Kerry, where everything in
his life from the time I believe, from the time

(18:48):
he changed his last name from I believe it's Schultz
to Polis, which is his mother's maiden name.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
He said at the time, I like it better. I
just like the name better.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Okay, But I think that was a calculated part of
a guy who very early on determined that he wanted
to be in politics and he wanted to be president,
and everything he's done since then has been marching slowly
to running for president. And thankfully it didn't work for
John Carry, hopefully it won't work for Jared Polis. It

(19:19):
really depends on what happens in the next four years
of the Trump administration. But I refuse because I don't
believe it. I don't believe Jared Polis to be evil.
I truly don't. Even the people in politics that I
genuinely don't like because of the way they act in politics,
I still don't think they're evil. I think they behave
badly sometimes, but no, I'm not going to say he's evil,

(19:41):
because I do not believe that at all. All Right,
somebody else asked, what is what does red pilled mean?
Because I said Anarchisparian had not been red pilled. It
has come to mean someone and it's a reference to
the matrix, where you could choose the red pill and
learn everything that was going on in the matrix, or
you could take the blue pill and remain oblivious to

(20:02):
what was going on in the matrix. People who are
red pilled, and it is capital are capital p have
seen the light and have seen the fallacy of their way.
I've never seen it applied to people who are on
the left, or excuse me, people on the right who
have moved left, but only to people on the left
who have had a revelation and have now moved right,

(20:24):
so you can say that they have been red pilled.
It's kind of in a normal vernacular, I guess. Now,
So let's get this topic because I saw this.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
And I am not. Are you you strike me as.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
The person who loves your family traditions a rod? Are you?

Speaker 7 (20:42):
It depends on the one. But most of the time, yes, see,
I think not grow up.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
With strong Christmas family traditions. Other than every Christmas Eve
we went over to Mi Nana's house, where inevitably she
had the heat. On eight thousand and we sat around
and opened Christmas gifts, and my sister and I had
to open gifts at exactly the same time because we
got the same thing, and my boy cousins had to
open gifts at exactly the same time because they got
the same thing. And we'd sit and visit with my

(21:09):
Nana and then we would go. But Christmas for me
was not particularly special as a kid. My parents divorced
when I was young, and it was always a very
stressful time in our household, and then we had to
go have Christmas dinner with my mom, and then we
had to Christmas Dinner with my dad.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
To say, it was just it sucked.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
To be perfectly frank, I didn't love Christmas at all
as a kid. I don't have those warm and fuzzy
Christmas memories from being a kid. So I am not
a traditionalist type person. I am like, I love a
good tradition, but I don't feel married to it in
this sense right, which I think is very liberating because
I'm not afraid to mix things up, not afraid to

(21:50):
mix things up at all. I am married to a
tradition guy big time, because he had these big sort
of family gatherings. He's the youngest of six kids. There
was always a million people around the table, and they
took the family photo up the stairs, you know, that
whole thing.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
And so he has a very strong sense of tradition.
And this has created a.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Little bit of conflict because my thinking is, if a
tradition isn't working for you anymore, ditch it, just change it.
Because I think a lot of traditions over time and
with pinterest, have become so much work that people are like,
this is not worth it anymore. It just isn't And

(22:31):
I understand that, so I think a lot of people
are looking, in my view, to scale back. Listen to
this polling data on those on board with the idea
of a meal switch up instead of doing the Big
Christmas Turkey or the Big Christmas ham, forty four percent
said they would order a pizza, thirty eight percent said
those hate tacos, and thirty four percent said Chinese takeout. Now,

(22:54):
Chinese takeout is the Jewish tradition on Christmas because it
was always open on Christmas where's nothing else is open.
So if you like to go dine with your Jewish
friends on Christmas Day, you can go to a Chinese restaurant.
And I know that India's restaurant that Ross loves so much.
I know they're doing something on Christmas even Christmas Day
as well. But here are some of the traditions that

(23:15):
people would be open to swapping. Okay, Number one, sending
Christmas cards. Guys, I haven't sent a Christmas card in Ages, Nope, Ages,
and I still love getting the Christmas cards that I
do get. Some of my Christmas cards are just family
photos the people, and I love that. Some of them
come with Christmas letters that are very detailed of what

(23:37):
the years.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
But I love that.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
But I'm not doing it. I'm just not doing it.
It's too much work, too much stress. I never get
them out in time. They arrive in the middle of
January kind of defeats the point. So sending Christmas cards
bye bye. Now if you still love that, people like
me still love getting them. Number two, this one I
agree with one hundred percent ugly Christmas sweater parties. Oh

(24:00):
you you know why, wait a minute, a rod when
they started. You probably don't even remember when they started
because you're too young. They were because people actually got
incredibly hideous sweaters for Christmas that were just ugly.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
And now there's like a whole industry.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
Of people making sweaters that are ugly on purpose. And
I feel like this is jump the shark. But that's
just me, I feel. Number three gift giving. Gift giving
creates a lot of stress for people because you don't
want to give the wrong thing. You don't want to
give too much, you don't want to give too little.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
You know, you have to. It's just I understand that.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
And if you with your family decide, like my brother
and sister and I years ago, said enough, we're not
giving to each other's kids, we're not giving to each other.
We're not doing this. This is stupid, and we just
stopped giving gifts and it was it's fine. So now
we hardly have to buy for anyone, but just you know,
talk to people to make sure they're on the same page,
because if somebody buys you a gift and you're like, no,

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I'm not buying gifts anymore, that's kind of a jerk move.
If you want to tell people please don't buy me
a gift this year because I'm not doing gifts this year,
that's fine. And then if they still buy you a gift,
that's fine. But if somebody.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Hands you a gift and you're like, oh, sorry, I
know we've exted now I'm not doing gifts this year,
that's just a jerk move. Don't do it.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
So you have to go out of your way to
tell everyone, hey, I'm not getting you anything.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
All you have to do is people that have traditionally
purchased you a gift, you just say, hey, you know
what guys, let's not do gifts this year. Everybody, just
take the stress off. Let's get together and enjoy a
meal or have, you know, spend some time together. But
let's not worry about gifts. That's perfectly fine.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
Well, I gotta tell you my generation, and I assume
those younger, we really don't give gifts outside of family.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, it's just not a thing.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Well, I like, I talked to my friend Greg the
other day. He still buys for like five friends of his.
They still exchange gifts, and he has for thirty years.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
But that's what they do.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
The young'ins myself included. This Friday, we just do big
white elephant parties. There you go out.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Number four secret Santa gift exchanges. We've done them here
in the building. But listen, hear nobody did it. Nobody
did it. It's it's super frustrating if you get somebody
who don't know well and then.

Speaker 8 (26:14):
You're like god, the digital versions, like the people will
submit category of what they that helps you helps you out.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Number five I find patently and deeply offensive.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Here we go listening to Christmas songs. Are you people nuts?
We're going to talk about that after this.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
The fact that listening to Christmas songs is on this
list of traditions people want to change is.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Just blasphemy to me, terrible, absolutely terrible. I want to
know from you, guys five six.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Six nine, oh, what Christmas traditions you had.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
When you were younger, or when your parents.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Were kind of running things that you either hated and
ditched or that you kept because you love them. My
personal trainer does Christmas Eve at her house for their
whole extended family, like fifty people, and every year they
have a different a different country theme and it's really
really cool, Like.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
I love that this. Hi, Mandy, Pam here from our trip.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
We do a theme for our gift exchange, like time
of day, colors, decades, states, country food.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
It makes it so much fun.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
I absolutely love that.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
So, Mandy, I gave someone with no sense of humor
Pete's schweaty balls from SNL as a white Elephant gift
this year.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Best gift ever, best gift ever.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
I love this, Mandy. I told him my friends years
ago to not buy me a gift. I asked them
to just put a couple of bucks in the fake
Santa Salvation army kettle and that's lovely, a lovely, lovely idea.
So Number six watching Christmas movies.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Not everyone likes Christmas movies. I get that one. But
you don't have to.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
I mean you don't have to put it on the
Hallmark channel and leave it on twenty four to seven.
You can dip in, dip out, watch the ones you
want to watch. Number seven Top ten Christmas traditions Americans
would be open to swapping. Number seven should be number
one elf on the shelf.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
All right, you know I've had enough with you today.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
Do you know why you think this is a great
idea because you don't have kids.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I've done it. We babysat how many days we did,
multiple days? Multiple days.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Did you start the day after Thanksgiving and do it
all the way to Christmas?

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Because until then show up my brother in laws family's
doing it and they're loving it.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
You are wrong. Yeah, I've drawn a line in the sand.
Is the spirit of Christmas? The kids love it, to
go crazy for it. You know why you don't like
it because you're just being lazy?

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Correct? Okay? Well, you know what's good.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Mornings at four o'clock in the morning, in a cold sweat,
going it I guess what I did exactly that for
the nephew we were babysitting.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Had to wake up super early to go do a KBO.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
Remote and I will in the morning and did it?

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Do me a favorite parents, give me the how many
years have you done elf on the shelf?

Speaker 5 (29:04):
How many years? Guess what do you want to do
it again? I'm going to do it?

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Okay, I welcome just knocked yourself out.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Knocked yourself out?

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Christmas lights that's just a pain up on the ladder.
You just don't want to do it, and you get
the jelly lights or the lights that I recommend it.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I'm not getting on roof.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
No.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Number nine Holiday baking and treats. I find this absurd,
like why would every I mean, you don't have to
do the banking. But if somebody brings in Christmas cookies
and you're.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Like, oh god, Christmas cookies are.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Good, you're a grinch and your how hard is three
sizes too small? And number ten decorating a Christmas tree.
This one hurts my heart because my Christmas tree is
full of ornaments made by my kids and I love
the whole process of taking them out of their little
container and I hang them on the tree, and I
think about it. Now I have like the little grandkid's

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hands hanging on the tree, and then we have all
these ornaments from all of our travels around the.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
World world, and now I have two trees.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
Oh that Christmas match you're cool with but not making
them super happy and excited with Elf on the shelf.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
I did it. I hated it. I did it, and
I hated it flat.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
I don't know what's wrong with you.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Uh, Tea Mandy just saying, says our text message.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
You are the Grench.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Yeah, you are the Grench.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Now the jem carry one. You're the o g subpar grinch.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
The stupid pressure of Elf on the shelf, And then
when I forgot, I.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Just say, we have a lazy Elf.

Speaker 8 (30:29):
The pressure people, it is only a month, Oh god,
every day.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
I can't wait. This is going to be greor you know,
I don't think you know your producer well enough. Because
I'm a child.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
I love the magic of Christmas and doing that for
the kiddos literally warms my heart. I'm gonna show you
the video and the break of us doing it for
my nephew and you will go, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Sure I'm sorry doing it for four days or whatever.

Speaker 8 (30:55):
Two?

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Oh my god, I.

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Would do it for the whole month.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
I would do it. For the magic of Christmas. I
would do it. Three sixty five. I did it for
twelve years. That was quite enough. I would do it.
I'm three sixty five. I am completely for the kids,
completely good for the kids. Mandy, A little off topic
on Christmas Day? How many people are working at the
radio station.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Could you roll a bowling ball down the hallway and
not hit anybody?

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Correct? Christmas Day or any day? Christmas Day? Oh, there
you go, Actually any day he can anyway. Hello Connell.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
As a child, we went to the forest to chop trees.
Now I'm forty six and I still do this. Started
this tradition with my ex wife's family. It's very nice.
It's a great if you have a real tree. I
think that's a lovely tradition. Lovely, lovely tradition. You guys
are setting up some great traditions. We'll get to those next,
and so stick around for the news.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Right here.

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Speaker 5 (32:00):
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Speaker 5 (32:12):
Welcome, welcome, Welcome to you. The second hour of the show.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
We are talking a little bit about Christmas traditions right now,
and I want to stay with this just for a
little while longer, because I'm actually getting some really really
good Christmas traditions on the Common Spirit Health text line
at five six, six, nine to zero. And this is
what I'm looking for, like, what traditions do you.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Still do, do you love did you have as.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
A family that are maybe a little bit different? And
I think some of these are absolutely fantastic. None better
than this. This is the most gen Z Christmas tradition
that I actually think is super super a great idea
you could do anytime of the year. Gen Z uber
eats party. Everyone orders the last thing they ordered for
a pot lug party. I think that would be awesome,

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That would be fantastic. That could be a lot, But
you'd have to be in the same neighborhood, right because
if you go across town in Denver, I mean you
probably could find the fast food stuff anywhere. But I
think that's a super fun idea. What would yours be
a rod.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
What would you bring to the Uber Eats party? I
mean our ramen. We just got ramen Uber Eats.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
You've got ramen Uber Eats.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
Was the delivery like three or four times the amount
of the ramen itself.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
No.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Not when you order for a whole family, you know
what I mean, then you're actually saving money.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
You didn't have any ramen in the cupboard or I
don't like that.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
I don't like Oh I still can't eat the packets
of ramen after college for like a year and a half.
What you get like good ramen from a ramen place?

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Oh? Yeah, from a Poka Ramen place, not like the
little because I don't even think of restaurants.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
Restat restaurant have no other better options than ramen.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
I love ramen all the time.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Fuzz gross, that's delicious.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
We have ever had? I mean what? Well, then you
haven't really had real ramen?

Speaker 7 (34:10):
No I haven't, clearly, I don't think.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Of because I can't even eat the little bricks anymore
because that's all I ate for about eighteen months in college,
and I.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Can't do it.

Speaker 8 (34:19):
I would Uber Eats exactly what I'm doing for White
Elephant this Friday that are listening. I don't think they
are our friends. I'm buying three rotisserie chickens, wrapping them
up for white Elephant on Friday.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
You sent a great video for white elephant ideas yesterday though,
and I guess the limit was twenty dollars. And somebody
put two ten dollars bills slightly offset into a small
tray and filled it up with water and gave cold,
hard cash.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
I think that is really good funny.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
I am mildly concerned it would melt, so I'm doing
you have a little cooler.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
I'm doing the rotiries. I think what what like five
six seven bucks? If you go to Costco, they're five
ninety nine ers.

Speaker 7 (35:00):
I can buy three and maybe sneak in four.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
Probably it's a grease oh your bottom And it has to
see in a bag like not a wrapped bag has
to be in a one that clearly has yes, a
gift bag, thank you.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
So that's what I would uber eats, because who doesn't.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
There you got there you go? Uh Mandy.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Maybe our son's favorite tradition was making treats for the
police and fire departments on Christmas Day and bringing them around.
I now have a son who is a police officer,
and I still do this now it's just me and
my dog.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Lol.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
By the way, those at the fire stations were always
so much more happy about us coming. They would inevitably
take my boys around the stations and give them looks
at the equipment and things.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
That is a lovely Christmas tradition.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
I love that I have friends who are Jewish and
so every year on Christmas, their Christmas tradition is to
go and work at a food pantry or charity that's
doing a big Christmas dinner because they're thinking, is it's
not our holiday, but we can help support others enjoy that,
And I just I think that's lovely.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
That's lovely.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
To the person you said told me I was disparaging
Christmas today, I'm not disparaging Christmas. I love Christmas now,
but I was talking about Americans who are over Christmas.
And in order to fit my response into the allotted
number of characters that I have, I shortened Christmas to Xmas,
and they took umbrage with that.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Here's a fun fact.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Xmas is an accepted representation of Christmas because x is
a representation of Christ and guests who told me that
a priest so Xmas is not a secular shortening. It
is actually a recognition of Christ the King in the
X form, So do not be upset by xmus. It
is simply a celebration of Jesus, whose birth we celebrate

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on Christmas. So there you go, There you go. This
is what I love idea for a rod. We love
to watch Christmas movies too, but we also like to
make the meal associated with a movie. Tonight will be
spaghetti and elf. We did Grinch and the Roast Beasts
the other night. Just one more fun thing to add.
I really like that idea. I really, it's really good.

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You know the problem is we've gone through almost all
the movies already.

Speaker 8 (37:04):
We're running out, So run Tim Allen Santa Claus franchise
right now, which is so good. Yeah, I forgot how
actually pretty good it is. This person said I refuse
to have food delivered.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Gross. I don't understand that.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
I mean, if you go pick it up, you're still
putting it in your car and you're bringing it to you,
and when you get it, the bag is sealed with
a sticker.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Would you not eat it if it wasn't sealed? I
would definitely call the driver and say, why is this
not sealed? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:30):
Where are my French fries?

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Yeah exactly, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
I used to bake over a whole weekend, but I
find I don't enjoy it very much anymore. We've got
way down on sugar.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Whoopsie, and I can't not eat it because it's delicious.
That is correct.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
But see, just scale back, like make your best cookie, right,
make your best item whatever that is, or you know what,
sometimes things do get old. Sometimes you do get tired
of baking. So it's one of those things. Uh, Mandy,
college and eating Hamburger helper for the years. Blah yeah,
hamburger helper. You don't even have to put the hamburger in.

(38:05):
His cousin Eddie.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Said yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, m Mandy. Fruitcake, no, no, no, fruitcake.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
And the lovely people at Collins Street Bakery try to
send me a fruitcake every single year, and I'm finally
just like, no, don't do it. Don't waste your fruitcake.
I'm sure for people who love fruitcake, it is delicious fruitcake.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Can you give it to me in the past? M Yeah,
I just told them not to wow, because you know,
just don't X as a substitute for Christ is straight
from ancient Greek. So there you go.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
We have a therapy dog, says this Texter. For years
and each Christmas morning we would take her to the hospital.
Nobody wants to be in the hospital on Christmas morning.
That is lovely, lovely, that's what I'm talking about. Cool
Christmas tradition. So you can make that happen and you
can change it up.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
If none of these traditions work for you, or maybe
you're like me, you don't have warm and fuzzy feelings
about Christmas when you were a kid, there's nothing to
stop you from creating a whole new set of traditions
for your family or even just yourself. You know, I
like when people just say I'm gonna go rogue. I'm
gonna do something completely different. Whatever your traditions are, if

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you enjoy them and they make you happy and they
give you joy, why not If they don't give you joy,
if they feel like work and nobody in your family cares,
then say let's do something different. In the past couple
of years, we went on a Christmas cruise, which my
family loved, but we decided we didn't like being being
away from home for Christmas, right, so now we're sort

(39:50):
of settling in. This is going to be a very
low key Christmas for us, and I'm looking forward to it.
Change your traditions, do something new now. If you're married
to a tradition person like me or my husband, rather,
it's a little bit harder and.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Require some negotiation.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
But nobody should be locked into doing things they don't
want to do because that's how they've always done it.
That's the thing. I think Christmas should be a joyful time.
Christmas should be a time for reflection and spending time
with the people that you love that are important to you.
This one, I still attend candlelight service with my eighty
four year old mother.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
I love that. I think that's very sweet.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
I'm trying to find the other one where someone said
they used to go to the candlelight ceremony with their
mother and she passed away, but they still do it
in her honor, so it's a family tradition that they
still do. We had blah blah blah. Let me update here.
This person said, we used to have a dice game
we played and we passed the dice and if we

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roll double, you select a rapt gift. Eventually you can
steal gifts. The gifts were mostly nice, but some were
joke gifts, like a weird devil statue.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Or rap musk, rap musk? What is rap musk? We
eventually stopped.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
Playing when the gifts got worse and the bad gifts
kept reappearing each year. But isn't that Isn't that what
makes a tradition great? When the same bad gift keeps
making an appearance, Like that same fruitcake just keeps coming
around and you keep giving it to someone else.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Somebody keeps, you.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Know, mandy charitable donations in lieu of gifts. Several years ago,
before my siblings and I just said no to no
more gifts, put the cabash on it. My sister started
the tradition of going to an angel tree and she
would choose an angel for my brother, an angel for me,
and she would go and buy all of the gifts
from us and the angel so for the angel tree.

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And I really really like that. I think that's a wonderful,
wonderful thing to do. And I don't know anybody that
wouldn't appreciate you or someone else saying you know what,
for Christmases here, I made a donation to this charity
that I know you like, or this cause or.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
This mission that you like. And I did that in
your name and in your honor. I think that's a
lovely gift, A really really lovely gift. White elephant gift
is always a fart in a jar. Boy. That is
the gift that keeps on given, isn't it. So whatever
your Christmas traditions are, if you don't like them, change it.

(42:29):
Just change it.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
It is, It's doable and Christmas again, you should enjoy it,
Enjoy the entire process.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Now.

Speaker 6 (42:38):
I got a bunch of other stories that I want
to get to, including this one. I mentioned the Trump
press conference, which, by the way, I put on the blog,
and if you want to get an idea of what
the beginning of the Trump administration is going to look like,
I would strongly recommend that you watch it. So Trump
is indicated in that press conference a couple of things. One,
he is going to continue his lawsuits against media organizations

(43:03):
that he feels did him wrong in this last election cycle.
ABC News just had a massive and I mean massive settlement.
They are paying fifteen million dollars to the Donald J.
Trump Presidential Library to settle the claims about to settle
the claims that they lied about about him being found

(43:25):
libel of rape, which is accurate. And hang on, I've
got to verify this stupid thing. So TikTok, will let
me get to what I want to play? Oh, come on,
come on, there we go and here we go a rod?

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Can I have hang on one second? Way stop that?
Can I have my audio? Please? I want you I
want you to hear what.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
The president says when a president elect says when asked
about the drone situation. And if you heard the show yesterday,
this is gonna sound kind of familiar, Governor.

Speaker 10 (43:56):
The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows
where they took off from. If it's a garage, they
can go right into that garage. They know where it
came from and where it went. And for some reason
they don't want to comment. And I think they'd be
better off saying what it is. Our military knows, and

(44:17):
our president knows, and for some reason they want to
keep people in suspense. I can't imagine it's the enemy,
because it was the enemy that'd blasted out even if
they were late, they'd blasted.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Something strange is going on. For some reason.

Speaker 10 (44:32):
They don't want to tell the people, and they should
because the people are really I mean, they happen to
be over.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Bedminster, the drum we are.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
They're very close to Bedminster.

Speaker 10 (44:42):
I think maybe I won't spend the weekend in Bedminster.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
I decided to cancel my trip.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
Have you received an intelligence briefing on the drones.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
I don't want to comment on that now, you guys,
I mean the drone thing. The government totally knows what's
going on with these drones. Asolutely know what's going on
with these drones, and I can't wait to find out
when he becomes president.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
A lot of you have added in some stuff.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
Mandy.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
At my old job, there was a nineteen eighty Jane
Fonda video that would reappear yearly at our department, White
Elephant Exchange. See that kind of stuff. I absolutely love,
love it, love it. Win Yogi says, our family passed
around a version of a cabbage patch kid I made
in the third grade. It was hideous and we called

(45:27):
it the Booger Baby. We still do it to this day.
Don't tell my son, but he's getting it this year
to be introduced to the tradition.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Why what is that? It's just funny? No, I get it,
But is it full of boogers? Well, it probably looked
like it would have boogers if she made it in
third grade. You know, third grade arts and craft skills
are usually not that good, and not just for the
weinanogi just across the board. Your third grade arts and

(45:56):
craft skills usually not as great as you would want
them to be.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
All right, By the way, it was a perfume. Someone
found a big lots. It smelled gross. It was called
rap musk. That sounds horrible, really horrible. God, yeah, rap musk.
I'm buying you that for Christmas right now. I just
made a decision to hang up full musk perfume. Oh

(46:23):
my gosh, it's still a thing a rod, it's still
a rat. Wait a minute, r ap even worse, even worse.
It was basically a perfume version of the how do
you do fellow kids meme when Steve bushimi but was
a sparkle in the internet's eye. It was also another

(46:45):
perfect example of market researchers co opting a counterculture to
make money. Consumers have been more conscious than they seem,
but we still get served the Kendall Jenners of the
world passing ap a cop a PEPSI. Let's see what
it's going on right now on Ebayne ninety nine for
three bottles a vintage rap musk body spray perfumes to

(47:09):
cool hip hop.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
You gotta see it, Okay.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Imagine a perfume bottle that's hot pink and then it
has like a green cape on it, and the green
head on the perfume bottle has a pink ball cap
on it.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
So there you go. Rap musk, We've got that.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Going for you. Now, maybe this is a new income
stream for me. I could bring back rap musk and
make it happen. Mandy, my wife and I are both
fifty five and still drive around the neighborhood looking at
Christmas lights.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
No kids needed. We do the same thing too, and.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
Christmas lights are kind of making a comeback in my neighborhood.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
Go check out the hazard house, remember we had them on?

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Oh that's right, Where is he? Where was that house?
I can't remember? This person said.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
We passed around lime green polyester bell bottoms for years.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Always a surprise.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
I gave someone a sheep calendar during college for the
white elephant thing, and he hung it up.

Speaker 8 (48:03):
I would hang it up. She gave me a sheep
calendar fairgate Way. In of course it doesn't say that's you.
You look up Hazard Gingerbread House on the Google. Let's
see one zero two to one fairgate Way. It looks
like it's in Littleton.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
This texter says, all these traditions and games are cute,
but let's not lose sight of the reason for the holiday.
Of course it is, but not everyone is Christian. But
everyone can participate in Christmas because we have Christian Christmas,
which is the celebration of christ Birth, which is of
course the reason we have Christmas.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
But then there's also secular Christmas, which is.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
Santa Claus and Christmas trees and you know, reindeer and
snowmen and all that stuff. So we do have two
versions of this. And some people simply don't celebrate the
verse of Jesus. They just celebrate Christmas. Mandy another secret
Santa swap twist. We had a rule that if a
present reappeared, it needed to be altered in some way
for the next year. For example, if a desk phone

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went from being the bat phone to the White House
Red phone. There was a bowling pin that received similar treatment,
but I can't remember the specifics.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
By the way, we'll have the info on the blog tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (49:12):
This is a twenty thousand led decked out Christmas house.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
You have to go see you. We'll have the info
on the blog tomorrow. All right about that.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
I disagree that Jesus is the reason for the season.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
To me, it's family.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
We wouldn't have the Christmas holiday without the Christian faith
and without celebrating the birth of Christ.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Give me both. And I don't need somebody to send
me an email saying, you know, he wasn't really born
on Christmas. He wasn't. He was likely born in the spring.
But they moved Christmas his birth to a holiday that
was previously celebrated by Pagans, to bring the Pagans into
the Christian faith without missing out on anything.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
That's the story. And I don't care. I really don't care.
It's perfectly fine, Mandy. I saw a T shirt on
Amazon that said darn tutin, and I think I'm gonna
send one of you to one of those to you
at the iHeart Media. S us Hey, I didn't start
the darn tutin thing. I just relayed the darn tutin
from the text site.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
We still need the Mandy Conall Show, magnets and apparel line.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
We've talked about it well.

Speaker 6 (50:10):
Now that I have a cameo so people can have
me record a message, nobody has booked one yet. A
rod feel a little bit disappointed everyone.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
I thought there would be a flood ask for the accent,
requiring it.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
I thought there'd be a flood because just twenty five
dollars you can get a message to someone who loves
the Mandy.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Conall Show or someone who hates the Mandy Collin.

Speaker 8 (50:28):
I need enough people to request one so I can
filter in an anonymous one asking for the accent.

Speaker 7 (50:33):
You not knowing it's got it?

Speaker 8 (50:34):
Uh huh yeah yeah, December thirty first, people, Yeah, I
don't think we forgot Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
Yeah, I'm excited. I'm bringing the whole family and do
the show on the thirty first.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
I officially won't be here, and.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
I'm also perhaps I'm reaching out to some of our
some of our people who have been involved in the
program previously to see if they will pop on the
show for a minute. It might be like a walk
down memory Lane in anniversary of our one hundredth you know, birthday.
Every Christmas Eve, I walk my and the next neighborhood
to see the lights. I talked to my mom, who

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passed in two thousand and one about what I see see.
That's fantastic, absolutely fantastic. I love that, absolutely love it.
All right, So we're moving on from that when we
get back. First of all, we've got one of our guests,
two guests coming up. The Colorado Department of Health and
Environment is doing a new educational campaign which I think
is great and overdue. It's called the T About about THHC,

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the T about THHC or the T on THHC. I
can't remember which one, but it's basically an educational campaign
about the difference between the marijuana that maybe the boomer
smoked in the seventies and the marijuana products that we
have in stores today, and there is a huge.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Difference between the two.

Speaker 6 (51:48):
We're going to talk to two of those people, Greg
Tungue and Annie Collier about it right after this. They
are associate professors at the School of Public Health working
with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment on
their new campaign called the t on THCHC about the
marijuana that is being sold and consumed in Colorado, how

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it differs from the marijuana back in the nineteen seventies,
and the health effects going forward. I'd like to welcome
to the show, Annie Collier and Gregory Tungu.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Welcome to the show. First of all, guys, thanks, yeah, thanks,
thanks for having us.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
I want to start with you Annie, because you were
sort of you were sort of working on this entire campaign.
When you're trying to come up with a campaign to
educate or engage the public, how do you even begin
that process and how did you guys sort of create
this campaign to get the word out about the THHC
concentrations we're seeing now.

Speaker 11 (52:45):
Well, greg can talk to us about to everybody about
the research that was done, but it's really research based.
So a great deal of time was spent to determine
what the literature says about the high concentration cannabis and
to try to understand how we'd want to direct that
to people. But we really are taking an informative approach
that is, try and educate people on what is known,

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as well as use narratives so that it has personal
experiences combined with really simple, clear, direct messages about it
so people can get informed.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
Gregorie, let me ask you about some of that research, because,
and I keep joking, like the Mexican ditch weed people
got in the nineteen seventies is so far away from
what we actually.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
Have now in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
What is some of the research behind this and these
super high concentrations of THHC.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Yeah, so, I think you've hit the nail right on
the head here. And the real underlying issue that we're
dealing with is that we're not dealing with the weed
from the seventies the sixties. This is not your grandmother's weed.
It's not even your mom's weed. You know, if you're
old enough to drive, what weed and what is available
in the cannabis marketplace, it's just fundament only different now

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than what it's been in the past, even the recent past.
And one of the big differences is the concentration levels
of THHC or the psychoactive ingredient are many times what
they used to be when I.

Speaker 9 (54:15):
Was in college in the nineties.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
You know THHC percentages and the single digits for flour.
Now in the Colorado marketplace, we're averaging twenty percent there are,
and that means half of what's out there is above
And we've got strains out there pushing thirty and we've
got an entire product class just innovation in terms of products,
concentrated products that can.

Speaker 9 (54:37):
Have THHC levels of ninety percent.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Wow, that's really.

Speaker 9 (54:43):
The motivation for this.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Yeah, that's really the motivation for this entire project, in
this entire campaign. And I'll try to speak really plainly
about this and to spill one of the big myths
that are out there. You hear this phrase where people
are dismissive sometimes about weed, marijuana, cannabis.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
But I think we gach those yah, you do.

Speaker 9 (55:01):
That, that it's just weed.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Yeah, right, And and I think in that statement is
that it's harmless, there's no consequences, and that is just not.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
True there, weed or marijuana.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Cannabis is a really complicated product. Are there medicinal uses yes?
Are there legitimate recreational uses? Well, the citizens of Colorado,
I've said yes. Are their real harms absolutely?

Speaker 5 (55:28):
And as the.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Concentration level of cannabis products in the current marketplace has
gone up, those harms are more likely. The harms have
have also increased in this That's really the underlying motivation
for this entire project and for this entire campaign.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Anny, you work on the mental health aspect of this,
and one of my big concerns, even though I am
a small l libertarian pro legalization, I think adult should
be able to make their own choices and live with
those consequences.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
What worries me is where.

Speaker 6 (55:59):
We are with kids and getting marijuana that is not
just weed, as Gregori said, but they're getting high powered
concentrations of THHC. What does that impact on the developing
brain and the mental health of kids in Colorado.

Speaker 11 (56:17):
Yeah, and that is actually a really good point that
we are focusing the campaign on people under twenty five
years of age and parenting and pregnant people because of
the impact on the developing fetus. So there are a
lot of risks associated with youth using it. The earlier
they use it, the more potential damage there is we see,

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and longer period of time that they use it for
it interferes with brain development and functioning. It can increase
the risks of different types of mental illness, particularly what
we cause psychosis, schizophrenia, and disorders of thinking and having
hallucinations beliefs that aren't true about reality that does not
happen in everybody, but it happens.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
That's actually a really big risk factor for you.

Speaker 11 (57:03):
So sometimes it can trigger underlying problems that may be
there that.

Speaker 9 (57:07):
You haven't even seen yet.

Speaker 11 (57:09):
It can exacerbate problems if you've already got mental health issues,
and it can lead to.

Speaker 9 (57:15):
New things that might not have even been triggered.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
I have a family member who started smoking marijuana at
a young age and ended up having a psychotic break
at nineteen and was diagnosed with schizophrenia. And so when
I tell people that story, people say, oh, that's not everybody.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
It's not everybody, But.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
You don't get to know if it's you until it's
too late, right, I mean, there's no marker that you're
going to be the person. Gregory, how much research is
going in right now? What is being studied right now?
Because we legalize marijuana without a lot of good science
behind it, So what are we actually researching now?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Yeah, so there is a tremendous amount of research that's
happening right now to try to fully understand both the
therapeutic and can beneficial applications as well as the potential
harms that are out there.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
But I'm gonna just.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Be really frank with you when you look at how
fast our marketplace has moved, how much product innovation has
been happening. Just the truth of the matter is that
the research is really behind and that we need more research.
There's lots of reasons for us to talk about that.
There's the complicated dynamic between legal status at the state

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level and cannabis not being legal at the federal level. Also,
it's Schedule one designation, which is really restricted federal money
for research. The bottom line there is, even though there
is a lot of research happening, we're still really playing
catch up and the market is moving so quickly. That
being said, the research that's out there, and a big

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part of our project is looking at what the research
says on this particular topic. Even though there's more research
that needs to be done, there are clear conclusions that
we can draw from the research that's out there, and
maybe this details right into the focus of the campaign
which Annie really talked about. I think one of the
areas and one of the populations of greatest concerns is

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youth and young adults, and of course pregnant individuals anytime
you have a situation where you know, frankly somebody's brain
is still developing, there's critical ongoing development and the research.

Speaker 9 (59:22):
That's available now, even though there's more.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
That needs to happen for us to better understand exactly
what the effects are, they clearly point to harmful effects.
And one of the areas which Annie highlighted, one of
the outcome domains that has the most amount of research
is mental health outcomes. And as Annie already mentioned, psychotic
disorders and psychosis is just is one of those areas

(59:44):
where we're seeing right now, even though there's more research
that needs to be conducted, that's a problematic area.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
What are some of the other harms that you guys
are seeing. Somebody's on our text line said, so what
are the harms You keep saying harms? But what other
than the psychosis issue, because not everybody's going to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
A psychosis issue.

Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
But what are some of the other specific connections that
are being made.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Yeah, So, our assessment of the literature, which is the
foundation for this entire project, looked at a broad range
of outcomes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
So mental health.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Outcomes we're talking about maybe related it to that substance.
The issues of substance use and addiction, absent actually having
psychotic disorders, the issues with substance use and dependence and
how that interferes with people's lives, that extends to educational attainment,
professional performance, all of those things maybe generally in that

(01:00:40):
same type of category. I want to be balanced about
this and be honest with your audience, and that our review.
While I believe our entire project in this collaboration between
the state legislature and the Colorado School of Public Health
was really motivated by the harms and better understanding that
we wanted to be balanced, and so in our review

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of the literature, we've also looked at what are beneficial
applications And this is one of the things that makes
cannabis so tricky is that are there legitimate beneficial uses
of cannabis?

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Right, I think there are really compelling and interesting examples,
and maybe just to hit right on this controversial issue
of kids using there are clear examples of kids with
epileptic disorders right using cannabis base for CBD based types
of medications where it is transformative. It's really incredible. In
our review of the literature. Pain management is another area

(01:01:38):
where there's where there's really benefits. At the same time
there are these arms, and so it's this question of
how do we balance that, how do we put forward
the rules and the regulations and then communicate all of
this to the public so that people can make informed
and healthy choices.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
Because we're out of time, but the website is t
on THHC dot org.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
I put a link to it on the blog.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
If you're a parent who wants to have a conversation
with your kids but you don't really know how to
get started, I think you guys, to your credit, you
did a really good job with that balance that you
were just talking about Gregory. So it's not all ree
for madness. You're gonna die if you smoke one joint,
which clearly did not work back then. But I think
this is a really, really good start to have a
conversation about the pros and cons and about why maybe

(01:02:28):
it's better if you're going to do this, to wait
until your brain is fully developed. I think this is
a great, great campaign. I hope that parents and everyone
really takes it seriously, because though again I am pro
legalization because I'm a small l libertarian, I do want
people to always be able to make an informed decision,
and I feel like we.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Haven't really had a lot of good, solid.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
Information for people to make those decisions based on.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
So this feels like we're moving in that direction.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
And for that, I'm very appreciative any caller and Gregory Tong,
thank you so much for your time today.

Speaker 9 (01:03:03):
Thank you for having us appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
All right, we'll be right back. Let me be clear
about this.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
I think marijuana is like any other thing that we use, medicine, alcohol, marijuana.
Some people can use marijuana with absolutely no issues whatsoever,
no problem at all. They can smoke marijuana, they could
quit smoking marijuana, no problem, not a.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Big deal, just like with alcohol.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Some people can have a few drinks every once in
a while and never have a single issue. Other people
have one drink and it turns into ten drinks every
single time. So if you smoke marijuana, I'm not mad
at you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
That's why I'm a small l libertarian. I want you
to do what's right for you. But there is very
little research into the serious negative ramifications of marijuana use.
And one of the things that I have heard the
Trump administration incoming Trump administration say is that they are
going to work to reschedule marijuana for a couple of reasons.
The first is so we can begin to do some serious,

(01:03:59):
hardcore research into marijuana at a big, big scale. And
then it would allow them to also participate in banking.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
So there's an upside there. But somebody said.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
There's no studies that say marijuana use causes schizophrenia.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
There is. They don't say it causes, but there is.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
A connection, and correlation does not equal causation. But they
have found that within a certain group of young men,
young men who starts smoking marijuana earlier in life are
more likely to have a schizophrenic break later in life.
Now does the marijuana cause that, I don't know, but
they're statistically more likely to experience a schizophrenic break if

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they have smoked marijuana, and that statistically it's significant enough
that you could draw a conclusion that perhaps they are connected.
And for my own personal experience, we have a history
of schizophrenia in my family. When I say I know
a lot about mental health issues, I'm not exaggerating. And

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a family member started smoking pot when he was very young,
had a psychotic break when he was nineteen. At twenty six,
he was dead of a drug overdose in a flophouse.
So this is a very personal issue for me, and
for you to just simply say it doesn't exist because
you don't want to hear.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
It is stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
But I will tell you this, if you're smoking pot
with your kids, I think you're a crappy parent unless
your kids are adults. If your kids are grown, then
I don't care what you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Do with your kids.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
But if you're one of those quote cool parents who's
getting high with your fifteen sixteen year old kids, you
are a bad parent because their brains are not fully developed.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
You have no idea what this.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
Is going because no one knows what's going on in
these brains because we haven't studied it. All I know
is an I firmly believe that smoking pot at an
early age sent my cousin's kid down a path that
ended up with him dying. And so yeah, you can
believe whatever whatever makes you feel better. But I'm never

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going to stop trying to bring you guys science. And
by the way, this is not a study. This was
not a study done by the Colorado Department of Public
Health and educator or environment. This is a study of
the existing medical studies that are out there, so as
more stuff cons online, they can go ahead and add
this to this website. This is just an educational website,

(01:06:23):
so they're not coming at this with an agenda other
than they want to help people make inform decisions about
their cannabis use.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
And we should all want that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
I mean, if you want to live in oblivion that
whatever you're doing is has no negative repercussions, knock yourself out.
But I'm not going to let that continue because we
have too many people, especially too many kids, who are like, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
Just a plant. What's the big deal.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
It can be a big deal for some people, for
other people, no big deal, but you don't get to
know until it's too late, right, That's the problem.

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To the third hour of the show.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
I want to talk a little bit about international politics.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
And you're like, what, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:33):
Why, Well, things are happening around the world, and I
personally believe they are directly related to the election of
Donald Trump, not all of them. And I want to
start in Germany because obviously we were just in Germany
not that long ago and talking to some of our
tour guides that we had about what, you know, what
it's like living in Germany. Germany is a great country.

(01:07:56):
I mean, I think it's beautiful. The people, though German
they can be a bit abrupt, but lovely. And it's
clean most well, the places we were very clean. It's
just it's a nice country. But one of our tour
guides told us, young guy, he told us that during
the winter months, it is so expensive to heat your flat. Now,

(01:08:17):
they don't have apartments like we have here. They're living in,
you know, like an apartment maybe a little bit bigger
than a cruise ship cabin, right, like maybe two hundred
square feet.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
That is an apartment that people are living in.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
And they said it was so expensive this last winter
to heat their apartment that they chose to not work
for three months and move to Thailand during the winter
because it was cheaper to do that than it was
to heat their apartment in Germany. Why is that because
under Angela Merkel, the former Chancellor of Germany, who was

(01:08:54):
very very popular when she was in office. But now
people are starting to go, what did she do to
our country? Angler Merkel did what everybody thinks they want,
which is she made decisions for Germany based on polling data.
So whenever the public decided they wanted at that minute,

(01:09:16):
Angler Merkel was like, I got you, boo, I'm gonna
make that happen, and she did. She shut down their
nuclear power plants. She built all these windmills, and while
we were there, we certainly didn't see the sun. So
if they have solar arrays, that's a useless operation throughout
the winter from what I saw in Germany. But they
tried to go all in on green energy, and now

(01:09:38):
because of the war in Russia, they are now having
the highest energy prices in Europe.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Now, what does the war in Russia have to do
with this?

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
Germany, for a very long time since World War Two,
has relied almost exclusively on the United States of America
for their security, as has most of Europe. This is
the point that Trump was making in his first term
about NATO not paying their fair share, about NATO not
living up to their responsibilities that they committed to as
a part of NATO when it came to spending a

(01:10:12):
certain amount of your GDP on defense, and Germany has
not done any of this.

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
So we have.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
Subsidized their generous welfare state. We have subsidized all of
their sort of you know economy by essentially providing their
security through NATO. So Angelo Merkele basically goes all in
on the green economy, and now many years later that
has manifested itself with some of the highest electricity rates
in Germany, and that means their manufacturing sector is in

(01:10:43):
deep trouble. For the first time in Volkswagen's history, Volkswagen
is closing factories in Germany because they can no longer
afford to run the factories in Germany because the cost
of power is so high.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
I just want to.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Point out these are the exact same policy he's being
pursued by our current governor, who wants to take us
to net zero, which is an impossible standard.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
And here's why.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
When those windmills don't turn, Germany has to rely on
natural gas power plants. Germany doesn't have a ton of
natural gas. So they were like, you know what, We're
going to go all in on green energy, but since
we need a backup, we're just gonna rely on Russian
natural gas. They wanted the Nord pipeline to be able
to provide them with natural gas in the low and behold,

(01:11:30):
Russia invades Ukraine and they.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Can't buy Russian natural gas anymore. So now they're screwed.

Speaker 6 (01:11:38):
So now their electricity is even more expensive because of
Angela Merkel. Well, right now, the current Chancellor, Olaf Schultz,
was just he just called a snap election in parliament
and they came back with a no confidence vote in
his leadership in his government. So now Germany will have

(01:11:58):
elections in February, and it's widely expected that the groups
who are on the right side of the political spectrum
are going to gain a lot of seats in this
next election and will likely be actively involved in the
next coalition government that has created. And that means their
green energy dream may be over because the reality of

(01:12:19):
that green energy dream has come toward. The chickens have
come home to roost on that one, and Germany's in
a bad way.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
But they're not the only ones. Just to our north, Justin.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Trudeau is about to lose his entire leadership position because
his left wing government is in the process of collapsing.
And his main ally in his government. His finance minister
resigned yesterday, and when she resigned, she didn't just walk
out the door quietly. She essentially said, I am resigning

(01:12:52):
because he is not taking the threat of tariffs from
Donald Trump seriously enough. And the spending that we are
doing is driving us into the ground, and I'm out.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
So Justin Trudeau is in a bad way.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
I saw an article a couple of days ago, in
a fascinating turn of events, the people who are most
likely to vote for the Conservative government in Canada are
young people.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
Young people who.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
Have realized they're never going to be able to buy
a house, They're never going to be able to start
a business, because Canada's regulatory and nanny state is so
excessive that it is sucking up so much money out
of the private economy that it's impossible.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
To get ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
Coupled with the fact that there are entire regions of
Canada that don't have any doctors, so this vaunted national
healthcare system has huge gaps where they're just not any
physicians to see people. So you have this great benefit
in theory, but in reality you don't have any doctors
to see so how good is free healthcare when.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
There's no doctors, but the doctors don't want.

Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
To work for them because they're overworked, in they're under paid,
because that is the fundamental structure of a national health
care system.

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
So you've got Canada kind of going.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
In a completely different direction, Germany going in a completely
different direction. And now we have word that there may
actually be a ceasefire in the works in Israel for
Gaza all of a sudden, so weird, all of a sudden.
Hamas is like, you know what, we'd like to return
the kidnap our hostages.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
We'd like to give them back, and.

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
Israel seems to be saying at the same time, we
would like to get this over with and get a
ceasefire deal done. I think it's because they're so active
and Syria right now they just kind of want to
be done with Gaza, so that could be happening. I
believe that's part of it. Is because Trump has been
such a staunch supporter of Israel that even Iran has

(01:14:51):
to take notice. And since all of their proxies have
been killed now by Israel. The whole situation is in fluxy.
There's so many things in the world that are changing
right now. Well, it's fascinating, it's just and I think
a good part of.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
It is because.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
Around the world people have lost faith in their government.
People have lost faith in government's ability to solve problems.

Speaker 12 (01:15:15):
I have a.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
Poll on Today's blog and they did this kind of
after the election. They went back and asked people, why
did you vote for Trump? Why did you vote for this?
And people said, we just want the government to work.
We don't want to be lectured to, We don't want
to be told what. We just want government to solve
the problems we need solved and get out of our way.

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And we think Trump is a better option for that.
And I think that feeling is spreading around the world,
and you know what, I'm here for it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
I just have to talk about this because the.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
More dating seems to change, the more it stays the same.
So I see this headline in this article. Let me
pull it up so I can give you the headline
that caught my attention. Frust the snowmanning dating trend could spread.
STIs doctor Warrens. Have you heard of snowmanning?

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
A roy jo?

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
This is oh, this is so ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
Okay, one doctor is warning against the troubling sexual winter
trend of snowmanning that could you leave you at risk
for catching sexually transmitted infections like syphilis, herpes, and gonorrhea,
not to mention catching feelings. The term snowmanning was initially
coined by the dating gurus at e Harmony in twenty nineteen,

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but only now a doctor's warning that it could lead
to worse outcomes than hard feelings. E Harmony said Christmas
is a time for celebration and presents a great opportunity
to socialize and find someone special. However, once the drink
stopped flowing and decorations come down, sometimes that initial burst
of chemistry wears off. Our research shows that lots of

(01:16:54):
people then retreat from their new relationship, a trend we're
coining snow and this is my favorite Wait wait, wait,
where is it right here? Talking about STDs. It becomes
more of an issue if contact details weren't exchanged, leaving
no way for a fling to let you know if
they've started experiencing troubling symptoms that in olden times was

(01:17:19):
called a one night stand. And when I was in
the dating world, you never expect a serious relationship to
start between Thanksgiving and New Year's you never do because
it's not real. As a matter of fact, I had
friends who swore off dating between Thanksgiving and New Years.
What's funny to me about this story is they're trying

(01:17:41):
to repackage dating behavior that has been around for forever
as something new.

Speaker 5 (01:17:47):
Oh kids today doing this. No, kids have been doing
this for forever, same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
It's come on, it's it's I tell my daughter all
the time. Technology may change how things are done, but
human nature does not change. Oh thank god, says this texter.
I thought Snowmanning had something to do with carrots and
places they don't belong. That would have been preferable in

(01:18:15):
my mind, to sort of repackaging the notion that you
hook up with someone while you're drunk at the holidays,
and then the the you know, bloom wears off the
rose pretty quickly. It's it's all the same thing, you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
It's all the same stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
That Gen X and baby boomers probably did things a
little bit differently when they were in the pre sexual
revolution phase, but now it's.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
Meanwhile.

Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
Other dating trends include sledging, which is when singletons drags
someone along through the holidays with the intention of dumping
them come New Years. If this happens to you and
you're being sledged or as we used to call it,
strung along and then you get dumped, I just want

(01:19:09):
you to know whoever did that to you did you
a favor, because you don't want to be with someone
whose attitude is I'm just gonna string these people along
so I have a date to parties and then after
the first thing year, I'm gonna dump them because they're
not good relationship material.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
Just throwing that out there.

Speaker 6 (01:19:28):
Claire Rainier, a head of communication for the dating app Happen,
says this can be toxic and a red flag could
be that is a giant red flag that someone standing
on a mountain waving a red flag back and forth,
and if you don't pay attention to it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
By the way, there's also the winter coating trend, in
which people reach out to old flames in the winter
much like they would an old coat. I would say
that's the home from college hookup. You know, when you
go to college and then everybody comes home for the
holidays and everybody gets together to hang out, and all
of a sudden, that person that you'd never noticed in

(01:20:05):
high school like that before all of a.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
Sudden looks quite delightful.

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
The story just proves, says this texter, there's too many
social media sites, bloggers, bloggers and experts.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
I kind of long for the days before social media.
Me too, my friend, me too. When we get back,
we are going to talk about what.

Speaker 6 (01:20:24):
You do if you want to cut back on your
drinking but you're not ready to teetotal it. We've got
a guest coming on next about that. I guess with
us now, who is doing something that's a little bit
different than what you might think of when you hear
someone talking about helping people with.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
Their alcohol problems, she is.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
Excuse me, I'm trying not to cough really really hard
as I introduced Erica Mallory to the show. Erica, welcome
to the show. I'm going to turn my mic off
and cough for just a second. So tell people about
shameover dot me.

Speaker 12 (01:21:01):
Hello, thank you, And I've been coffing NonStop, so I
totally get it. I'm Erica, and Shameover is basically a
program designed to help people, specifically women, but I do
work with both to be able to drink.

Speaker 9 (01:21:12):
Less without having to say bye to the booze entirely.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
So where did this come from? How did you decide
to start this?

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
So, like many, I.

Speaker 12 (01:21:23):
Found myself during the pandemic drinking a little bit more
than I had been used to.

Speaker 9 (01:21:27):
It turned into kind of a daily.

Speaker 12 (01:21:29):
Drinking type thing and just didn't necessarily like where it
was headed. I went online because you know, it's not
necessarily a fun thing to talk about, and everything that
I found was basically saying, if you're looking at ways
to drink less, you're an alcoholic, you should never drink again.
I did not feel like I was there. I never
wanted to be there. So I figured I had the
coaching certificate from my life coaching, Let's see if I

(01:21:50):
can create something myself.

Speaker 9 (01:21:52):
I did and been helping people ever since.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
I've talked on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
I'm not a huge fan of mommy wine culture and
the fact that it's sort of become this cultural phenomena.
And I say that even as a person who enjoys wine.
It's I'm not anti wine, but it seems like it
got amplified into this lifestyle that is not necessarily healthy
when in long term, So, how do women come to you?

(01:22:19):
How do they begin to recognize that maybe mommy wine
culture has become the culture that they need to ratchet back.

Speaker 12 (01:22:28):
Yes, I was the first to like send the memes,
buy the towels.

Speaker 9 (01:22:32):
You know, I totally get it and grate in some
of it. I do sell chuckle at.

Speaker 12 (01:22:35):
But I actually had a point where my daughter, this
is daring COVID again, she was maybe eighteen months at
the time.

Speaker 9 (01:22:40):
She brought me a wine glass.

Speaker 12 (01:22:42):
And you know, here's an eighteen month old. There's nothing
in it. But she just saw a wineglass at a
friend's house and credit to me like, oh here your mom,
and I'm like this, I don't like So that was
actually kind of a big part of it. But I
think for a lot of us women, I've noticed that
it is the first time that we've made any time
for ourselves during the day. And that is why mommy
whine culture has become such a big thing. Is we're

(01:23:04):
prioritizing ourselves for that one moment for us.

Speaker 9 (01:23:06):
To have a drink, make a drink, whatever that looks like.
So being able.

Speaker 12 (01:23:10):
To still keep that as part of the ritual but
not necessarily making around alcohol.

Speaker 9 (01:23:15):
Is kind of a big thing. But as far as
when people are coming to me.

Speaker 12 (01:23:18):
It's kind of a tricky thing because again, no one
wants to talk about alcohol. If you have a problem
with it, you feel the shame, the judgment to all
of that. Yet it's everywhere we look and you're never
supposed to have a problem with it. So it's that
very fine balance of really, are you asking yourself like.

Speaker 9 (01:23:32):
Am I drinking too much? Could I stop if I
wanted to? What does that look like? And that's kind
of how people typically find me.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
How do you know if you are a person who
can reasonably cut back on your alcohol or if you're
a person who really needs to not be drinking.

Speaker 9 (01:23:50):
Yeah, that's a great question, I am the biggest labor.
Moderation is not for everyone.

Speaker 12 (01:23:55):
There are absolutely people who should never touch a substance
or other substances. That being said, and a lot of
us it is just become a very habitual, very mindless thing.
And that's where you can kind of determine if moderation
is possible for.

Speaker 9 (01:24:08):
You or not ingranted.

Speaker 12 (01:24:10):
Whatever we practice we get really good at and we've
been practicing drinking for excuse me, practicing drinking for a
long time.

Speaker 9 (01:24:17):
But if you're waking up you know, drinking all day.

Speaker 12 (01:24:20):
Long, then yeah, my program that type thing moderation probably is.

Speaker 9 (01:24:23):
Not for you, at least not at this point.

Speaker 12 (01:24:25):
But if it's just at a point to where maybe
it's harder to find your off button, maybe our daily
drinker and you're trying to cut back and it's just
it's a little bit more challenging, that's when moderation a
lot of times still is possible.

Speaker 9 (01:24:36):
It's not all encompassing, all consuming.

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
So what does your program look like for someone someone
calls you and says, I really feel like I'm drinking
more than I want to?

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
What is this? How does this work?

Speaker 9 (01:24:49):
So there's a couple of different things.

Speaker 12 (01:24:50):
I have a boot camp called this is the hang
of our boot camp where you can it's kind of
self paced type thing. So a lot of times that's
a great place for people to start, because again, if
you're a judgment around this is such a big thing.
And then I also work with women in a membership
that's kind of group coaching. It is so powerful when
you realize that you're not alone in this whole thing.
But the biggest thing, and this is whether it's with alcohol,

(01:25:11):
whether it's with eating, consumptions, consumption at the end of
the day and when people are starting to work on
their drinking. A lot of times if they're not really
doing the work, they're just like white knuckling it.

Speaker 9 (01:25:20):
It goes to eating, it.

Speaker 12 (01:25:22):
Goes to the amount of time they spend on social
media or spinning on Amazon or whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:25:26):
So it really is all about understanding.

Speaker 12 (01:25:28):
Yourself, your triggers, why you're drinking, when you're drinking, what
your beliefs.

Speaker 9 (01:25:32):
Are around alcohol.

Speaker 12 (01:25:33):
And that's where you can really start to make the
difference because you have that self awareness, and that's what
leads to kind of the mindfulness with it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
That mindfulness part, I think is very interesting is because
I've now reached a point in my life where physically
alcohol is not my friend. It prevents me from sleeping,
I don't feel well after it, but I still enjoy
like a really good glass of wine, I still enjoy it.
So I have to kind of strategically plan that, right,
if I have anything to do the next day, I'm

(01:26:01):
not drinking anything. If I have anything important, it has
to be a mindful choice because for me, physically it
just doesn't work anymore. Is that kind of what you're
looking at, Like, are you promoting strategies or you know
you're going to a Christmas party, So maybe I mean
how the practicality, I guess is what I'm asking.

Speaker 12 (01:26:20):
Yeah, absolutely, and that is I mean all of us
are different, especially women as we're aging. It is impacting
us differently than it did. Yes, it impacts men too,
but just women in our hormones.

Speaker 9 (01:26:30):
It's a completely different beast.

Speaker 12 (01:26:32):
But it really depends wherever you are on the journey,
and if it is that you just don't want to
drink at all, if you just want to be able
to have better conversation or know that you can socialize
and still have fun without it, or maybe it's still
being able to have that glass of wine when you're out,
but being able to stop at one or two. So
it really just depends where you are. And a lot
of times that's understanding where you are, because when things

(01:26:52):
like dry January, for example, which is right around the corner,
people just isolate. They keep themselves at home, they shut
off any triggers, try to reduce all stress, and they're
either white knuckling it or they're just you know, avoiding everything.
But come the first weekend in February, everything is back
and it's almost like they're making up for lost time, right,
and that is so detrimental for our help physically, mentally,

(01:27:14):
all of that. So this is where it's really again,
understanding where you are and meeting yourself where you are
instead of having these completely unrealistic goals then falling short,
feeling like a failure.

Speaker 9 (01:27:24):
Again, and then the vicious cycle just keeps going.

Speaker 6 (01:27:26):
Do you have people that come to you and after
working the program and doing the program, they decide, I
do need to quit drinking.

Speaker 12 (01:27:35):
Yeah, And I've had to make that recommendation to a
person or too, just letting them know.

Speaker 9 (01:27:40):
You know, for me, we all know deep down if.

Speaker 12 (01:27:42):
It's possible for us. Sometimes we do need help understanding that.
But it needs to be from someone that you trust,
that you know truly has your back, not you know,
a lot of times family that's too close. There's too
much that it has been mixed there. But a lot
of times when people are coming to me, they aren't
at that point to where they need just completely to stop,

(01:28:03):
but they never wanted to.

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
Get there, right right, My guest has a wonderful program,
shameover dot me. I put a link to Erica Mallory's website.
So if you if you're hearing yourself in this situation,
and you're hearing you know what, maybe she's got a point.
Maybe I'm drinking more than i'd like to and I'm
not quite sure how to do that. I would strongly
recommend you click over and taking control of any sort

(01:28:26):
of substance use is a very empowering thing to do.
And if you want to really like tackle twenty twenty
five with where there are you know, a vengeance and
make it your year, then perhaps this might be a
program to help you do that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:41):
I love this.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
I mean, I've been very lucky in that I've never
felt like I had.

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
A drinking problem.

Speaker 6 (01:28:47):
I'm just I don't have that particular addictive personality, but boy,
I've seen what it can do to so many other
people in my life. So anything like this, that babystep
can help you get it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:58):
I support it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Eric.

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
I really appreciate you giving us time today about this.

Speaker 9 (01:29:03):
Also, thank you so much, appreciate you for having me.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
All right. That's Erica Mallory.

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
You can find her website shameover dot me, shameover dot
m E, and I put a link to it on
the blog today as well.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
So you got that going. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:29:19):
I feel really lucky that I never had to worry
about that. So that's something I'm very very grateful for.
We have to talk about this latest situation.

Speaker 5 (01:29:31):
In Aurora real quick. So, I mean, you, guys, we
have in.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
The United States of America gang members. We don't know
if they're trendy at Ragua, but if they're not, then
that means there's another violent gang in Aurora, which is
not very comforting. They went into an apartment and kidnapped
two people. That's not happening on I guess on a
regular basis.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
I don't know, but I this is sort of insane
what's happening in Colorado with these criminals who are coming
in from out of the country.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
Insane that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
This is something we're dealing with. Insane that we live
in a state that is a sanctuary state one hundred percent,
and a lot of people think, oh, it's a sanctuary state.
That means the FEDS can't come in here and do
immigration enforcement.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
Oh yes they can.

Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
The only thing the sanctuary state status means is that
our law enforcement officials are prevented by law from cooperating
with federal immigration officials in Colorado when it comes to
getting illegal immigrants out of Colorado.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
That's enough. I'm sure that is enough.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
But this is so insane that this is happening. And
you can hear in the sound bites that have been
played in the news all day, you can hear the
frustration from the chief of police because this is a
problem we should.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
Not be dealing with. We have our own homegrown crime, right.

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
We don't need to be importing criminals to do stuff
like this. Mandy, A lot of you are weighing in
on this drinking thing. I now drink non alcoholic wine
and I'm doing great. Three years in I think the
availability of non alcoholic wine and now there's non alcoholic spirits,
it is easier.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
Than ever to not drink. So it's been really fast. Mandy.

Speaker 6 (01:31:25):
Not sure if Ross would see this, but tell him
the guy who helped get nicotine banned in Denver is
the a whole not hmmor k away. I don't know
what that means, but I'm assuming it was something that
happened on Ross's show.

Speaker 5 (01:31:38):
Mandy just wondering, we're all where are the police in Aurora?
Are they waiting for the Feds to come in. No,
they are not.

Speaker 6 (01:31:43):
They arrested fourteen people, and I certainly hope now will
they stay in jail for allegedly kidnapping people. I don't
know if they'll stay in jail our justice system. I
don't have a lot of confidence in our justices him
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
Because the cops arrest people and then the DA lets
him out. And that's not cool, not at all, not
even a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
Also on the blog today.

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
We have interesting video, but not at all surprising. I mean,
if if Joe Biden hadn't shown himself to the world
in the debate as being clearly a fraction of the
man mentally that he used to be, this video by
James O'Keefe would be surprising. I cannot imagine dating in Washington,

(01:32:38):
DC right now because everybody on an app should probably
be worried that James O'Keeffe has a reporter on.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
The other side of that app.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
And this one is with Henry Apple, a former spy
who currently works at the Intelligence Programs Directorate for the NSC.
He actually said Joe Biden is dead, and he didn't
mean dead dead like dead. He meant mentally dead, and
he proceeded to tell a story about the President calling

(01:33:08):
the same number multiple times looking for Jake Sullivan and
not understanding it. The President not understanding basic words. And again,
if we hadn't all seen it with our own eyes,
perhaps this would be shocking.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
But it's on the blog. It's very interesting. You can
watch it. The jeepz o' keef story is very interesting,
just overall. Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:33:28):
In an update from yesterday, the Denver City Council went
ahead and did that flavored nicotine band based on nothing
but feelings and virtue signaling and discussed for tobacco while
they consistently embrace the exact same thing only when it
contains cannabis.

Speaker 5 (01:33:49):
They also extended the.

Speaker 6 (01:33:50):
Lease for the Discomfort in Homeless Shelter, so that's not
going anywhere anytime soon. And I have another episode of
the Diary of the CEO podcast which is so good.
It's so so good. And this was on healthy aging.
And guess what one of the main components of healthy aging.
If you said in your mind weight training, Mandy, you

(01:34:12):
are correct. But this lady she brings slides, She brings
like cuts of muscles from young people and old.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
People, she brings all the goods.

Speaker 6 (01:34:22):
It is well worth the two hours and twenty minutes
that I spent watching it. Fantastic And lastly, on today's
last moment of the day, the minimum wage is going
up again. I fully expect more and more restaurants to
start going under. Our good friend Alex Sidel announced yesterday

(01:34:44):
he is closing Fruition, his restaurant that he's had for
eighteen years. It got a Michelin nod. It is an
outstanding restaurant. I am hoping to have him on the
show to talk about that after the restaurant closes after
the first of the year. His wife works here with us,
and I adore her as well, and I.

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
Said, well, Alex, come on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
She said, he's not ready yet, because this is like
closing a child. But I fully believe, and I'm gonna
obviously hopefully have the chance to.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
Talk to him about that. Is that with minimum wage
going up and.

Speaker 6 (01:35:17):
The price of food and everything else going up, I
think the margins on these restaurants have to be nothing.
And by nothing, i'm not being oh, they're probably only
ten percent.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
No, I bet that they are zero. And at what
point do you just.

Speaker 6 (01:35:30):
Say the stress of running a restaurant is not worth
what I'm making out of this restaurant. I mean, at
what point do you just say it's enough. I can't
do this anymore, can't do it anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
Mandy will part of a roar be in Brockler's new district.
I don't know the answer to that question.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
I don't know the map of the new twenty third district.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
I'm super happy I live in it. I mean, I'm
not planning on committing.

Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Any crimes, not anytime soon, and certainly none i'd be
caught for. If I decided to be a master criminal,
I'd be amazing. That's what I tell myself.

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
Anyway. Nick Ferguson is in the studio. You look at
very dapper today. Nick. Dapper is the word. I mean,
that whole look you have going on right now. You
look dapper, doesn't he Wow?

Speaker 13 (01:36:10):
I didn't expect that a rod, I guess, Mandy, I
could say the same thing for you.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
Well, thank you very much. I'm just wearing my normal stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
But you got the salmon colored sweater on the nice
pink and it's salmon. Go with salmon. It's more manly
to say salmon than pink. Well, I don't have a
problem with the pink salmon. That's a great good look
on you than you got. You got the little cap
on today.

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
You just look good. Yes, appreciate it. Thank Nick ferguson
bringing the whole All Star Look show.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Exactly.

Speaker 13 (01:36:39):
I was coming in to see you and a Rod
and I have to dress the part.

Speaker 5 (01:36:42):
Oh yeah, that's it, that's it. Yeah, yeah, that's it.
But now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of its guide.

Speaker 8 (01:36:54):
Good Ryan dangerous. We're about to pay royalties with a
certain rumbling.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
No, don't say that. He didn't say the R word
in college. We had that as our show intro.

Speaker 8 (01:37:12):
No, and I think our I don't know if our
producer was messing.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
I think we had an inquiry.

Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
Michael Buffer is so aggressive about protecting that copyright for
let's get ready.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
Oh, he will come after you. He'll come after you harder.

Speaker 6 (01:37:26):
Than the NFL were for using super Bowl in a commercial.
Our producer at the time, super Bowl in any commercial
that's not an NFL. They will come after you with
a cease and desist so hard and so fast as
it's unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (01:37:38):
Our producer at the time, I believe he was messing
with us, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Speaker 5 (01:37:42):
I think we did get an inquiry.

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
Like yo, I just want to say that I just
got the best text of twenty twenty four. It says, well,
if it was a crime to have the best show,
you would be arrested.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Try about that. I be your own week. That is fantastic.
Thank you, thank you, sir. Okay, what is our dad
joke of the day?

Speaker 7 (01:38:01):
Why can't Santa spell elf?

Speaker 8 (01:38:04):
I can't Santa spell elf because he has no l
oh Christmas spirit?

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
Noel? I got it? Well, got it all right? What
is our What is our word of the day? Please?

Speaker 8 (01:38:21):
It is an adjective adjective lexical L e X I
C A L lexical.

Speaker 6 (01:38:27):
I feel like lexical is lexicon, which would be something
about words.

Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
So something use words? Oh yeah, lexical?

Speaker 7 (01:38:40):
It both not only in the ballpark, you're in the infield.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
Something wordy, I mean something I don't write.

Speaker 8 (01:38:46):
Something is lexical is to say that it is related
to words or vocabulary.

Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
Got that?

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
All that sat for study finally paid off? In what
year did the first season of RuPaul's Drag Race Air.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
Two thousand and two.

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
Do you think twenty sixteen. I'm gonna guess twenty ten.
I guess twenty ten, twenty nine, Okay, I don't think.
I think I've watched maybe one episode of that. I'm
not anti drag Queen, but I'm not going to sit
at home or watch him if I'm at a bar.

Speaker 5 (01:39:14):
That's fun sitting at home. I'm like, eh, you know,
I've never watched it at all.

Speaker 6 (01:39:19):
It's a fun show, like it's silly and fun, but
they just draw the drama too much, and it's like
then there's drag queens crying and no one wants.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
To see this episode? What bravo? Uh bravo E? I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
Seems like a be bravo, but I'm not sure. I
don't remember. What is our category?

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Please?

Speaker 8 (01:39:38):
I usually uh go a little bit more broad my categories,
but once I saw this, I'm like, I'm doing it.
How the great Actors of our time? Category? Is Tom
Cruise Films? Oh no, yes, okay, Tom glides across the
floor to old time rock and roll Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
What is risky business? All right? I got one.

Speaker 8 (01:39:56):
Tom Cruise learns that he has an autistic older other
in this nineteen.

Speaker 7 (01:40:04):
It's like that Tom Cruise.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
You want to practice? Do you want to yell your name?

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Nick?

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
Nick? Do it? Okay? We beat him too his own
name just there.

Speaker 8 (01:40:13):
I know he's Tom Cruise starred as professional spy Ethan
Hunt Nick.

Speaker 7 (01:40:19):
Yes, Yes, which one I'm just kidding on there.

Speaker 8 (01:40:21):
In a nineteen ninety two film, this actor told Tom you.

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
Can't handle the truth.

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
Nick. Oh, oh, it does it?

Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
Hold on?

Speaker 8 (01:40:33):
No, it has it has a few good men in parenthesy, though,
but it did.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
Say Andy, who is Jack Nichols. No, I'm gonna know.
We're gonna scratch it because he says both.

Speaker 8 (01:40:41):
It says Jack Nicholson, but in parentheses and a few
good men. But the question was who was the actor?

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
That's true, but both are the parenthesy.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
You know jeopardy is the parenthesy counts.

Speaker 5 (01:40:51):
No, No, it's from the movie. It tells you what
movie it's from.

Speaker 8 (01:40:54):
It doesn't I say, I say, we scratch it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:57):
You're still you're still to one. I don't care.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Rules.

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
You got to answer the question.

Speaker 8 (01:41:03):
The question was, it says, and so we're not gonna
give them point, but we're gonna scratch it right in
the middle.

Speaker 7 (01:41:10):
Okay, Leonard.

Speaker 8 (01:41:14):
Malt Team malteam Malten Malten said. The cliches in this
nineteen ninety action drama gave new meaning to the term
formula one.

Speaker 5 (01:41:23):
Manny, what is Days of Thunder?

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
You guys see the actor and I'm just kidding you.

Speaker 6 (01:41:27):
One smarty pants? Smarty pants?

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
You in for sports today? Yes, I am. What do
you guys doing today?

Speaker 13 (01:41:37):
Do you know? Obviously talking about the short week for
the Denver Broncos and the playoff outlook for for for
the team, which definitely looks bright and after the winning
gets a cult.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
It's all in their hands, Nick, it's all in their hands.

Speaker 6 (01:41:53):
What you can't allow it to just fall through your hands,
exactly like saying, it's all in your hands. Right here,
they got them out. There's the playoffs right there in
their hands.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Just like that. They got control of it. Okay, we'll
be back tomorrow. We will.

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
Okay, So tomorrow's Wednesday, weather Wednesday, I got something else scheduled,
and then Thursday we're preempted because of the football game,
which I'm pretty excited about.

Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
I'm not gonna lie I know that until yesterday. So
it's gonna be a short week for us.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
But we'll have Friday to blah blah blah. We'll be
back tomorrow