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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was in pe class when the Jane fond Of
revolution hit. That was a little bit before your time.
Michelle Zelner, our health and fitness.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Guru, Yes, I think I was Denise Austen. Oh, I
love her too, But what's funny about this?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So Yes, for this past weekend, I was looking for
a thirty minute calisten X workout that I could do
on the days that I'm not lifting weights, and there's
so many of them. But as I'm watching them, I
was like, this is pretty much the Jane fond of
workout from like nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I mean, there's really not a lot of variation that
you can do with a body, right, A body is
a body.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, And so basically we're rehashing now for them, and
they think they invented it, and I'm like, no, go
back and watch Jane with her high cut leotards and
her tights. And you know, we brought Michelle on today
to talk about twenty twenty five, and you just heard
me talking about the sort of optimism that people are feeling.
And I think it's part willfully like willing it into
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being because we're all so tired. Nobody wants to talk
about what's gone on the last six years, right.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, I definitely get the sense that people are just
ready to move on, ready to actually be active participants
in their lives again, where maybe for a lot of
people they kind of stood back and just did what
they were told to do because that's what they felt
like they were supposed to do, right, And I definitely
see that kind of energy shift as well.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I hope so, because it's a terrible position. And I
kind of said this earlier in the show, to be
drifting through life is a terrible way to go through life.
And I don't care if you're a person of faith
or not. This is true. We get one spin on
the big blue marble, right, this is it. This is
the life that you have been given. I happen to
believe you were given to it, given it by a creator.
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Don't waste it just drifting through life. And one of
the ways that you can avoid drifting through life is
to take a little little moment, a little couple hours
of introspection and really sort of drill down on what
you want twenty twenty five and beyond to be. And
Michelle does this virtual vision board party, and I'm going
to let you tell people, well, what is a vision board?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well, I mean it's just a visual representation of either
what you say is important to you or things that
you want to achieve and accomplish an experience, whether it's
for the year or it's like a particular event that
you're excited about. It's that way to get it out
of your head and get it into the real world
which is in front of you. And you know, I
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know I've shared this before, but I used to roll
my eyes at the whole concept of a vision board. Right, Really,
you're just going to put some pictures and words on
a poster board and then poof, your life's amazing. Well,
that actually isn't the way it works. But there's science
behind it. The fact that when you get clarity, when
you declare something out loud, when you have it in
front of you, it's accountability. It's focused exactly. It's the
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reminder of what you say you want to do, so
that you don't get to the end of the year
or a decade or your life and you say, oh,
well I wish I would have or yeah, I probably
should have, or I guess I could have.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
What are the things that I think my mistakes have
been is a put too much ambition onto one board.
And so now I am working on focusing on a
few things that are really important and not so much
on the things that are you know, maybe they're long term,
sort of pie.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
In the sky.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
If it happens, it happens, but if it doesn't, not
a big deal.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But really, because I want to bring that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Kind of intention and that kind of focus to the
things I want to accomplish this year.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, I think that's a great way to look at
I think too often we do put those big pie
in the sky things and we feel like if we
don't accomplish something.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Big, well then we didn't do anything right.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And there's so much in the day to day, right,
the day to day is very mundane, and yet it's
the day to day consistency that is going to determine
your outcome for a lot of things. And I know
that's one of the big roadblocks for people is we
want this instant result with little to no effort, and
so we're all gung ho in January and then come
February we're like, oh, well, you know, I tried.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And did you see that there was a gym I
don't even know where it was. There was not accepting
new members in January.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I love that he was.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Literally like, look, we don't need you to clog our hallways.
We don't need you to come here for the four weeks,
go to a different gym for your one month.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Of working out.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And I thought, first of all, it's pretty ballsy. But
if you want to join a series, Jim, you know
where to go.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And I'm never going to discourage anybody from trying and
from getting started, because sometimes it is that one time
that maybe I wasn't successful before, but this time is different.
And that is something I always ask people if they've
been down the road before and you're attempting to do
the same thing you've done before, what is different about
it this time that is going to help you succeed?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And if you haven't ironed out what is different that's
going to help you succeed this time, you're probably not
going to succeed this time. So I think there's so
many steps to actually be successful.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You have to do right.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You can't just hope or wish or put a vision
board together or.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Read the four Agreements or the Secret or whatever, and
they just hope and pray that fbulous things are going
to happen to you. I think that is one of
the most important parts of this whole thing. Is that
a vision board without action and or more, let me
say this differently, a vision board without actionable steps to
achieve those goals is just a picture you made.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yes, that's what that is. Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And there are people, I mean, I've I've hosted vision
board workshops for going on seven or eight years now,
and there are people who think, well, I'll just put
it on a board and then it'll all happened, right,
And I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Not sure where that's not witchcraft? Right, it's not witchcraft.
It's a way to present yourself. And there's a lot
of different ways.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And our mutual friend, the win Yogi hers is not
a traditional vision board. It is actionable steps she wants
to take because for her, she wanted clarity, like what
are those steps I'm going to take in these different directions,
rather than just having an aspirational like I want a
new kitchen, so I'm gonna put this kitchen.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I what are you going to do to make that happen? Well?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And I like to use my board, so my pictures
and words and phrases are things that matter to me,
so they are my goals, my values. My priority is
how I intend to spend my energy and my time,
my money. And then on the back of the board,
I write the actionable steps to make each of these
things happen.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So, when I was writing my book, okay, yes, I
had a picture of the cover of my book on
my vision board.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay, well, when am I going to write this book? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Right, And I knew, like I need to have set time.
I can't just do a couple hours here and there.
So it's on the board and this August that year,
like this August, these three weeks that is drilled down
I'm writing that book. So you get a lot of clarity.
But you you do have to have some discipline. You
have to have a plan. You have to follow through
on the plan. Be flexible with your plan. I mean,
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you really have to be a very active participant in
the process.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
To your point.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
You can't just kind of wing it or fritter about
does I does I call it?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Things only happen because you did things to make them happen.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Right, right.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, there are people who appear to stumble through life.
But ultimately they're ready for the opportunities when they appear,
and that's kind of what we're doing here now.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
The virtual vision.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Board party is something you do from the comfort of
your own home. You sit in front of your computer.
I in the past, when I did my vision board,
I have actually gone to the internet and printed out
photographs that I use on my vision board.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I have seen other people.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do the entire thing in a in a you know,
Canva slide or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That it's really whatever works for you.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But I will say this, don't do something so big
and elaborate that you don't want it out in your house,
like you don't want to do this, and then put
it in a closet and you.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Actually have to have visual, yes, pase on it, you
have to look at it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
One of the best places to put it if you
have the spaces in your closet because then you see
it every day. That sounds so dumb to say put
it in your closet, but I'm talking about the closet
where all of your clothes are that you go into
every single day. That's a great place to put it
because then you see it early in the morning, you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Know, Yeah, and if people have a hard time.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I've had people say well, I don't really have any
thing that I want to work on this year, or
I don't have any goals, or you know, I always
do this and it never works out, so why bother
doing it again. To that, I would say, just give
yourself a little gut check. Are you one hundred percent
happy with every single thing.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
In your life?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And if you are great, then don't change a thing.
But if there's anything that you are not totally satisfied with,
and there is something you are willing and able to
do about it, well, then why not do that one thing?
And maybe you make that list of the things that, yes,
I would like to improve or level up or expand
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You make that list of.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Those things, and then you think, Okay, there probably is
something on here that if I'm intentional I dedicate time
and effort to it, it will give me benefit. Right,
And that's a really important piece of it. This has
to be something that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Matters to you.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
You know a lot of times people will set goals
or you know, make make things on their vision board
because that's what everyone else is doing, or that's what
somebody thinks.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You should be doing.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well, if it is something that really adds value to
your life, the likelihood that you were going to invest
the time or energy to do it is pretty slim.
And then you're gonna say, well, you know, I tried,
and I find how they're doing it again.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But it's just I guess as I've gotten older, and
I think this happens to everybody as they get older.
It's not that I'm feeling my mortality and I'm not
buying any green bananas.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But I'm fifty five years old, so.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You realize that you're like, Okay, let's assume, just for
the sake of this conversation that I remain in really
good health until I'm eighty. That's only twenty five years.
So I got a lot of stuff to do in
twenty five years. I've got a lot of stuff I
want to accomplish, and I don't want to get to
eighty and look back and say, why didn't I do
That's that's.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The thing, you know. I've talked to so many older people.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
When I sold insurance to older people, I would sit
and ask them all kinds of questions, just chatting with them,
and the regret for the things they didn't do.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Was always it was palpable of the things.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well, I wish I'd gone back to school, I wish
I'd done this, I wish I'd started a business.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Don't be sitting there looking back and saying, Oh, I
wish I had done all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Now let's talk about the actual party.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because you think to yourself, why do I need Michelle
to lead me through going to the internet and cutting
out fixtures.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's so much more than that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She has these great speakers, absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Tell me who's going to be speaking about what? Oh gosh,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I have been so lucky to have all of these
incredibly evolved humans from all ages. I have some very
young ones and I have somewhere a little more seasoned
that just give insight and inspiration in all different ways.
I have a couple of fitness related people.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I have a healed mindset coach.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I have a mindset coach. I have a money mindset coach.
So I really try to think about, you know, the
different areas where people are maybe struggling or want to
make changes, and I try to align speakers who can
speak on that topic. So all I can say is
they're incredible and you're not going to want to miss
any of them. All the information is posted in the
event details, so you can look up who they are
and what little nuggets of wisdom they're going to share.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But yeah, it's a four hour event.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
If you can't do the whole thing, it's recorded, so
you get a link to the recording. As long as
you've registered, you can dip in and out. You know,
you're all on mute, so you're working on your board
while you're listening to the speakers.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I chime in with a few things here and there.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
We have some you know, tools and different kinds of
assessments and evaluations that can really be a helpful kind
of blueprint for someone who maybe doesn't really know like
well what should I be doing? Or I, you know,
I'm absent of any kind of ideas, So even just
an evaluation to get a good sense of really where
are you with your health and happiness.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I will tell you that if you are feeling like
this is, you know, silly, or you're feeling like this
is ridiculous, but you're also feeling like you don't have
these intentions and these goals. These speakers are going to
rattle you and probably move you in a positive direction
in some way. Now, maybe all of them don't resonate
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with you, but you are going to hear something that
is going to make you reflect and think about a
way to make your life better.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And that's there.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
They're absolutely fantastic. I wasn't the first time you brought
in the speakers.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I was like, Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
They were just You'll leave the day feeling so much
better about where things are going in the future.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
And that is the number one piece of feedback I
get every year I do this. Wow, I had no
idea how much I didn't know until you know, this
particular speaker maybe look at things from a different perspective
or open me up to this new idea that I
didn't even know existed. And I think that is part
of the process, right, being willing to be open to possibility,
being willing to to learn what you don't know, and
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to learn that you don't know things. And yeah, and
this applies to anybody who wants to make the most
of their life, right, And that's the thing, Like you said,
we have limited time, and if you you are very intentional.
With what you're doing day by day, week by week,
monthly month, you're going to get the most out of
life that you can.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
How much is this event? There's no set ticket price.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I encourage people to donate any amount they want. I
have everything from one dollar to one hundred and fifty
dollars donations, so it's truly whatever you want to give.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right, this is happening Saturday July, or excuse me, Saturday,
January eleventh, This Saturday from ten am to two pm.
And again, you don't have to be there for the
all four hour event. If you want to dip in
or dipout anytime, you can do that. I put a
link on my blog today to that event right event.
But if you forget about the blog, you can also
just search Michelle Zelner on event right and it will
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take you to this event.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Here's one, Mandy.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I've always wanted a pretty girlfriend, so I put up
pictures of pretty women, but my wife made me take
them down. So maybe on your vision board you should
have a microphone so you could be a comedian, sir,
how about that? How about that this person, Mandy, I've
always been a firm leaver of pray, then act.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Now there's action behind prayers.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I feel the exact same way, and this is just
a more secular version of that intention followed.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
By action and actionable steps.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Michelle Zelner A joy to see, was always happy, twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Thank you man, I'll see you out for Douglas Murray.
I'm excited.