01-21-25 FULL SHOW - How to Fix the DoJ, And Co GOP Leaders Show Up

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell and kam God.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Wait there, Bendy Connall keeping is sad base.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome to a two set.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Off the show.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I'm your host for the next three hours.

Speaker 6 (00:33):
Mandy Connell, joined, of course by my right hand man,
Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
And due to some things.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
That Anthony had happened this weekend, we were officially looking
for someone to come and do some kind of sage
burning ceremony around him.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Specifically, we got to break the mojo a rod.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
Please breaking, please God, Lee.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
What happened this weekend? Real quick?

Speaker 7 (01:04):
Just well, you know a verbo up in Glenwood Springs.
We're super excited to go up there, and for the
most part we had a good time, but one lighter
aka major hindrance that kind of put a damper on
the I don't know the coldest weekend, uh that we
can remember in recent times here in Colorado. Yeah, try
having a verbo with no heat for the majority of

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your stay, no heat, heat out, gone cold freezing. At
one point in time, our friends had walk downstairs. What
did the thermostat read oh, just a ball me forty
six degrees inside.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
The house, fireplace or anything.

Speaker 7 (01:41):
No fireplace, no fireplace it and it gets worse. We
had they had suggested to find the one space heater,
which we found.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Then one of the handymen came.

Speaker 7 (01:50):
That was like the father of the owner of the house,
brought other space heaters, and of course all of them
would not function at the same time because they kept
trip than the breaker. So we wound up only being
able to use like one in the upstairs in between
the hallway with all the rooms. Then we brought it
downstairs when we were downstairs, and then we still couldn't
get more than two to work, even though we tried

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the corners, we tried different rooms. Trip break, trip break,
trip break, so we were just freezing. It was great,
but again the weekend was good. I had a good
surprise party for the wife and had a great time.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
With the hot spring day.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
It was this was to yeah, to celebrate your wife's birthday,
just to be clear about that.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
In the freezing cold.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
So you know a lot of people, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
What, hey, Rod, A lot of people plan birthday celebrations
inside meat lockers. So it's very trendy right now. I
heard in Paris, so you were just bringing the trend.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Right over here to Colorado. So you're just like a trendsetter,
my friend.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
Yes, and I will say for everyone to save you
all the text. Yes, the trip has now become half
as expensive as it was because we got a hefty
refund as of this morning because of the inconvenience.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
So you know that's part of it.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, community, Yeah, so that was fun.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
So yeah, see, please bring it.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Yeah, a Rod is having a bit of he is
having a bit of a streak of bad luck situation.
So I figured we just bring somebody in with a
sage stick and they can do the whatever.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I don't know. If there's incantations, I don't know. If
we have to chance.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Stuff, I'm not sure. Do we need to stand around
hold hands, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
I'm not saying I would go quite as far as
to sell my soul to the devil, but I'll go
the step right before that one.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Okay, So just maybe rent your soul to the devil?

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I think we've once
to take a couple of months. You know, I'll beat
the verbo. You know, my soul for the Devil. You know,
the heat will be on and I don't even need
to be on for the devil, but the heat will
be on at my soul's verbo.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, there you go, There you go.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Speaking of vacation destinations, I am currently in beautiful San Juan,
Puerto Rico, and I'm down here at the American Financing
Content Creator Studio, which has just been an incredible experience.
I gotta tell you, big fan of Puerto Rico right now,
big fan. Incredibly nice people, great food, great music. I

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feel very safe here.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
We were talking about that the other day.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Our engineer at Mike Kirby, he went to the same
festival we went to. He would gone all day Saturday
or Sunday, and then we went on Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
The whole time. You just I felt very safe.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
We're having a nice time and I'm sorry that you
suffered through that. When I'm you know, it is humid here.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
As the group of friends said, the group of friends
all suggested, it's gonna be a funny story to tell later.
We'll laugh at it amy, but man, it was. It
was like the worst weekend, like of all weekends. We
all know what the weather was like up in the
mountains actually wasn't as bad as down here. It still
was zero and we had a point in time we
were driving. I mean it did get to like a
feels like of minus twenty two at one point where

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we're driving with heat in the car, but overall the
hot springs wasn't that area wasn't as bad as down here,
but still whopping zero degrease with no heat.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
This text said a rod it's the curse of the
air horn. Just oh okay, so there you go. Also
compassionate Mandy is my old first sergeant said cold builds character.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Suck it up. Yeah, but nobody wants a cold.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
On your wife's weekend, uh, you know, birthday weekend, so
you text her, are not nice up there.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
We got up there Friday night and it did not
get fixed until like midday Sunday, so we're talking most
of the trip.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
I'm kind of with the other Texters who say, push
for more money back.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
You've already got half that, why not push for the
other half in the request?

Speaker 7 (05:34):
But can't they pull it like if I push it further?
Can't they just say I don't know. I just don't
want to take any chances with my string. Who knows.
Maybe they say, well, now that.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
You know what, you're right, you're absolutely nice.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
I'm just gonna take it. It is taking it and moving on.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
All right, Let's let's do the blog.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
And again, if you are a person who can do
a sage smudging legitimately, don't just like make stuff up. Okay,
I don't want some fake sage smudgeer. I need a
real see smudgeer to come in and take care of
this nonsense and cast out the evil spirits that are
just flying around a rod like nets. Anyway, let's go
to the blog. Find it at mandy'sblog dot com. Look

(06:11):
for the headline this is one twenty one twenty five
blog how to fix the DOJ and Colorado GOP leaders
show up. Click on that and here are the headlines
you will find within tick tech two oh win.

Speaker 8 (06:23):
Anyone half of American All Ships and clipments as a
press flat.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Today on the blog, let's talk about revenge versus reform.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
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Speaker 4 (07:39):
A sweet boy wants.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
To help others with cancer, and of course UFOs are real.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Of course, what was Jesus Christ's name? Glp ones do
all kinds of stuff. It's time to convert your VCR tapes.
I'm in paradise, but still working those Oh how do
we not have this for bo Nix?

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
I was smart of the band to just take a
break and then come back strong, right there. Can we
start by talking about the video that you sent me
at the bottom of the blog and why we don't
have this for the Broncos yet? Can we just talk
about that for a second, Anthony. That would be the
video of the guy from the Washington Commanders, Jade Daniels,

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using AI to practice with a VR headset before a game,
using the defensive schemes that the other team is likely
to call in various situations, and why do we not
have this for Bonnix?

Speaker 7 (08:35):
My favorite part about this is that Cliff Kingsbury, the
Washington Commander's offensive coordinator, will record all of the play calls,
all of them audio wise for Jane to listen to
at two times the speed, so that way in the
game he literally feels like the game has slowed down
for him. That is next level. I mean, already, this

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guy's in the NFF.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
I mean, yeah, you's going to do it dark sy
ops right now, and let me explain what's happened here. Okay,
so Jaden Daniels when he was at LSU, LSU bopt
this program that allows a coach to download or upload.
I guess I should say into this AI program every
play that they could possibly run on any given Saturday,
and then they will put in possible defensive schemes that

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the other team has showed that may show up against
these runs. And Jaden Daniels puts on this VR headset
and he just practices the plays over and over and
over again and is close to a real game situation
before he even sets foot.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
On the field.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
This is why this this is a big reason why
this kid is.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
So good right now in this in this story is
also why the Commanders are in the position they are
because they easily could have told a college kid come
in and say, all right, kid, he did this cool
little high text uff in college, but this is the pros.
We're going to do it under Dan Quinn, under all
these professional coaches. No, they said, you know what it
worked for you, let's keep it going. And that's why
the Washington Commander one went away from being in the

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super Bowl with a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Exactly. It's amazing.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
I mean that video alone is enough going to the
blog form, but we also have so much other stuff
including did you see my photo of my workstation here?

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Beautiful?

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah, Numero Uno Beach Hotel and I'm down here
working in the Content Creator studio, which is just absolutely stunning.
But okay, here's something I want to say to you guys.
This morning, I looked for so much. I tried really
really hard to find stuff that isn't about the Trump
presidency or inauguration.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
And boy, we're not there yet.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Still a tough, tough kind of news to find because
everyone has focused like a laser on what Donald Trump
is doing and is going to do in the next
one hundred days.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
And I said a few weeks ago, actually I.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Said it longer ago than that that I think the
first hundred days there is going to be so much
stuff thrown against the wall that it's going to be
impossible for the Democrats to even begin to stop most
of it. And that is something that Trump learned from
Democratic administrations.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
They don't let grass grow under their feet. And now
there's no learning curve.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
I mean, he's already done this job for four years,
so he's walking into it a season pro.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
There is zero learning curve.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
I'll tell you that much, because we're.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Going to get to that.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
We're going to get to him saving TikTok for right
now and probably forever we'll see.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
But the stuff that he's doing, some of it is
like WHOA what?

Speaker 6 (11:30):
But I think some of it is designed to be
a distraction, and he's going to get the Democrats to
bite on the distractions and the rest of it goes
flying through. But let me tell you who's coming on
the show today, because we got a bunch of guests today,
and there was a lot of talk during Pambondi's Senate
hearings for Attorney General asking whether or not she's going
to weaponize the Department of Justice against political foes, which

(11:52):
I find incredibly ironic because we all know how the
Department of Justice has been weaponized against political foes by
the Biden ad minute.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
So that's kind of funny.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
But I'm talking with Hillsdale College professor doctor Matthew Mehan
about it today and why reform is necessary and revenge
is not. So I'm interested to hear from him. He's
coming on at one o'clock. And then my friend Deborah
Flora has arranged a forum because there are leadership positions

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that are going to be up not just at the
state level for the Colorado Republican Party, but also county parties.
And she has arranged through an organization that I am
a part of, Douglas County Citizenry, that is just designed
to help people be more in tune and in touch
with what's going on, get involved in different issues or

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in different ways. It teaches people how to be good citizens.
And she's arranged a forum where people running for the
leadership of the Douglas County GOP are going to come
out and answer questions and talk about what they want
to see going forward.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
And the reason I'm talking to Deborah about this is
because I think every county should be doing this.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
I think every county should be inviting Republicans in to meet.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
The people who could lead the party.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
What we've seen happen in the state party, and you
don't even have to pull the dead horse out of
the closet for this one, because it's just going to
be a second. What we've seen to the state party
is what happens when too many people don't pay attention
to leadership at the county level. So I'd love for
you to listen to this and then maybe try to
set something.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Where you are.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
And then Aaron Lee was just a mom whose kid
was just going to school and then her daughter was
invited to what she thought was an art club, only
to find out it was a gender and sexuality club instead.
So Aaron Lee sued, she's not happy. We've got an update.
We're going to talk to her at two thirty. Now
let me jump into some of the Trump stuff. And

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by the way, there's a texture here that started out
the day hang on one second, started out the day
with this text message to me. Okay, Mandy, this is
a defining moment.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I love you. But if we don't talk about the
Nazi salute that Musk.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Did and how disgusting that was, I'm moving on. Every
right wing talking head is excusing it and it wasn't Okay.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Okay, let me
start here just so this texter knows where we're going.
Elon Musk and I have to ask you, and this
is what I asked this texter. Do people really truly,

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I mean, in your heart of hearts, do you really
believe that Elon Musk got up at a celebration of
a presidential inauguration, and he gave a hole Hitler in
honor of the Nazi Party and the Nazi regime which
murdered six way more than six million people. You really
believe that he was hireling Hitler, that's what you think.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
And don't give me.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
That he said anti Semitic things in the past. He has,
and you know what he did. I can flew to
Israel to get a better picture of what was going
on on the ground there, not exactly the actions of
the anti semi white supremacist that you're trying to make
him out for. In all honesty, if you think Elon
Musk threw the hile Hitler salute, you are willfully ignorant

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and trying trying to find ways to create controversy. This
is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. And here's why.
I can go to the Google machine right now, and
I did it this morning, and I can put in
a Republican gives Hitler's salute, and guess what happens anytime
someone takes a picture of a Republican with their arm

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in the air, waving in a crowd, hailing a freaking
cab somebody says, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
They're totally doing the Nazi salute. I mean, it's so obvious.
It's so obvious.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
And with a few exceptions a one lawmaker in Washington
State's kid who actually was throwing the Nazi salute being
a smart ass, it's never true. And do you ever
think the media ever goes back and goes, hey, you
know what, We're sorry, we got that wrong. That wasn't
a Nazi throwing the Hitler salute. This is a tired
old trope.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
It is a stor.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
We never supposed to raise our arms ever. Are we
just supposed to stand by? And if you watch the
video I have the video on the blog today, Elon
Musk taps his heart and then throws his hand out
to the people in gratitude. I mean, it's just so absurd,
and it shows the desperation of people to continue to

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feed into their belief systems that anything.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
These people do is wrong. And if you want to continue.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
To talk about the old trope about oh ah, Republicans
are racist, why don't you talk about all the new
black Republican voters and the Hispanic Republican voters. All of
those people must be too stupid to know that your
guys are racist?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Am I right? I just I can't with this, you guys.
I'm so sick of it. It's the same old tired heart,
just tired crap.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Mandy Lives of TikTok has great photos of four Dems
giving a Nazi salute.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
No, that's impossible. Only Republicans do it. Come on, come on,
the wave.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Was not like any Nazi salute I've ever seen in
my life. That from Dan, of course, not because it
wasn't er Mandy Lol Ross got the same text about Elon,
probably from the same person. I guess it is. I,
you know, whatever, if this is if this is the
hill you're going to die on, that is that's the saddest,

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most pathetic hill I've ever seen. If you stop listening
to the show because of this, this conversation about Elon
Musk clearly being disparaged by the media right now because
this is what they do to Republicans, then good day, sir.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I said, good day anyway. So that's that.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
That's my take on Elon Musk. I think I'm very
clear about the feelings there. I just I laughed out
loud when I saw the controversy starting, and you know
what that says. That says yesterday was a magnificent day
for Republicans.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
It was. It was a banner day. It went off,
though it was, you know, behind schedule, which most of
them are. It was, it was wonderful.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
The Capitol Rotunda was a dignified, wonderful backdrop for the
president to take the oath of office.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
His speech was an absolute barn burner, followed up immediately.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
By action, I mean significant action. We're going to get
into this a little bit later in the show. Some
of the things that Donald Trump did yesterday.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
If you were.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Thinking he wasn't going to do anything about spending, he
took an executive action yesterday that I think is going
to reduce the federal workforce by at least fifteen to
twenty percent without doing anything that could have him being
fiedired or sued under civil service law. He's requiring federal
workers to be back in the office one hundred percent
of the time, starting immediately. Ten percent, quit, fifteen percent.

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We'll find out. We shall find out.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Mandy.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
We must all wave like John McCain. He was unable
to raise his arms. Yeah, yeah, oh, Mandy, don't you know,
all the blacks who voted for Trump are racist too.
Maybe maybe maybe Babylon be village people accused of doing
a double Hitler salute, I mean yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
For the person who said, what exactly did he do? Explain?

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Please, he was in the middle of his comments. He
was showing his gratitude and excitement that all voters made
this happen. He hit his chest, he threw his arm
out to the crowd, and that's being what's made.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
As obviously he's obvious, he's you know.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
What, he's literally hitler. That's what he is, really, except
he's not. Now, when we get back that first segment
weren't really fast already, my friend Deborah Flora is going
to join me to talk about something that I hope
other Republican groups do, and that is be really thoughtful
about choosing leadership for their county. We're going to talk

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about that after this. Keep it righty here on KOA.
Honestly one of your favorites too, because she fills in
for me here. In addition to all of the work
that she does doing all kinds of other stuff to
advance freedom and liberty and those you know, those old
school values that.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
We love so much. Deborah Flora, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 9 (20:37):
Thank you so much, many so fun to be on
the show with you. Usually were like matter and antimatter.
We're never in the same place at the big time.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
The people don't see us in the same room. I'm
not saying we're the same person because we're not. But
you know anyway, so let's talk first of all, and
I briefly mentioned your projects, your side hustles, the things
that you work on in order to advance liberty and
justice and all that good stuff. Tell me about Douglas
County citizenry, even though I already know because I'm a member,

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I'm just saying.

Speaker 10 (21:09):
Yes you are. It is a secret handshake. Thank you
for that. And I think it's aid of a.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
Hustleough that's a fun way to say it. It is,
you know, kind of that see and need fill a need.
Douglas Kuty citizenry was born out of some things that
I think a lot of us saw in this last
election cycle, and many of your listeners, now, I did
run for the fourth Congressional district. That night of the primary,

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when we learned that only twenty five percent of voters
that were eligible to vote for the Republican candidate actually voted.
That was more troubling to me than not winning the nomination,
because what I thought to myself is, how does a
republic continue if seventy five percent of the voters are
so disengaged or disgusted or disenfranchised that they don't even

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vote in the primary. And so out of that there's
a group of us. I'm just one of many of
a steering committee. We decided to form a group called
Douglas County Citizenry, and the title is very, very purposeful,
because we want this to be a place where people
of goodwill will come together, will get re engaged, will
be informed, will not lose the sense that there is

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a place for them.

Speaker 10 (22:23):
And it's kind of modeled after the Big Tent.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
We don't have any requirements that it's not even say
says Republican, although probably the most of them are Republican,
but there are unaffiliated voters. Our primary guideline is that
you stamp for the Constitution, which by the way, has
benefited more people in the history of mankind than any
other document, to live, speak and think freely, meaning we

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don't all have to agree on everything, but we do
have to stand for one another's rights to live free.
And we're very excited because since launching it in October,
we have you know, pretty much standing room only and
you know, nearly one hundred people. And one last thing
I'll say about it, Mandy, that's encouraging because what we
didn't know is do people want to actually come together
and not discream at one another or scream at someone

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who's not there. Do they actually want to come together
just to simply talk about issues and solutions, you know,
policies and principles, not personalities.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
And it does seem there's a big.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
Hunger and thirst there, and so we're very excited about it.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
So of course I love it because I've been to
these meetings and they're super informative and they usually include
some kind of panel discussion from interesting people talking in
a very civil and respectful way about big issues. It's
so nerdy and simple and fantastic, and I think that
everybody there feels the same way. So you guys are

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doing one specifically related to the Douglas County Republican Parties
leadership elections that are coming up, and I wanted to
have you on, Deborah, not because everybody who listened to
the show lives in Douglas County. But what a great idea,
and I'm hoping that this inspires other county groups to say,
wait a minute, we want to hear from the leadership
potential as well.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
So what is happening tomorrow night?

Speaker 9 (24:10):
Yeah, thanks so much, Joe, because this is outside of
our regular meetings, and people can find out more on Facebook.
Douglas County Citizenry is the public facing page, and then
there is a more private group where people promise not
to bilify one another, but everyone is welcome.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (24:27):
We are having a forum tomorrow night, Wednesday, January twenty second.
The doors open at six thirty pm. The forum will
start at seven pm at that North Star Academy.

Speaker 10 (24:38):
Those details will be on Facebook.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
But here's the reason why even Douglas County, and by
the way, we do hope this gets replicated all over
the state because we believe that an active engagement, informed
citizen re is the key to keeping and protecting our freedoms.
But the reality is in Douglas County there's forty nine
percent our voters and are unaffiliated.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
That's interesting to me.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
Most people think of it as a very Republican county
and most of our elected officials are Republican. But this
is an opportunity to begin to persuade people. First of all,
this form in particular is to hear from people who
are running for the leadership of the Douglas County Republican Party.
It will be run civilly, as you probably know, Mandy.
I think I have been in you know, nearly you know,

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twenty five to thirty to forty forums myself as a participant,
so I know when it is fruitful and it's really
reflecting the questions that people, the average citizen wants to know.
But it's an opportunity for people to come in here.
Not everyone can vote for these candidates, necessarily you have
to be in this central committee, but everyone can hear.
Everyone can listen, everyone can submit a question on a

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card that they want to hear. And I believe it's
the beginning to, you know, starting to kind of heal
the divide in our state and in our country even
and I'm letting people us into those who are running
for these offices.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
You know, one of the things we talk about healing
the divisions in our nation. But you and I both
agree We're not going to be able to heal the
divisions in our nation until we can heal the dialogue
and we can learn again to have the civil discourse
that we've been able to have in the past, because
you and I have been alive when a time when
people could have a spirited discussion at a dining table

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and get up and still be friends.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
And relatives at the end of it. And we have
to get back to that.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
And that's one of the things that I like about
Douglas County citizenry is because everybody that I've talked to,
and every time I go I see somebody else.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I know.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
That's actually kind of funny, you know, I'm like, oh,
you're here too.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
It's like we're all discovering it at the same time.
But I think that we have to fix it on
our side before we can hope that anybody anywhere else
can fix it. Like, we can only control what we
can control, right, So that is what's so valuable here.
So again, where can people find this? I did put
a link on the blog today to the Facebook page

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with the information in it if you'd like to go,
But who is going to be at the event?

Speaker 4 (27:09):
To your knowledge now?

Speaker 9 (27:11):
Yeah, right now, we have at least three of the
candidates confirmed that are going to be there. There are
five positions that are going to be chosen. This is
going to be open to any candidate that announces prior
to tomorrow Wednesday, January twenty second, and one hundred percent I
agree if we do not, even within the conservative side,

(27:31):
show those who are a disenfranchise that there is a
place where you will be respected intrinsically, that you do
not have demanded homogeny of thought. I mean group think
is out of George Orrell's nineteen eighty four. For goodness sakes,
it should not be on the constitutional conservative side of things.

Speaker 10 (27:48):
And so we really do invite people to.

Speaker 9 (27:50):
Come and here and once again, even if you don't
know anything.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
About this is a great place to start.

Speaker 9 (27:57):
How are people chosen that up leading one of the
two parties that is, you know, predominant in our country.

Speaker 10 (28:03):
So people can find.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
Out more on Facebook or through your blog. The link
is there Douglas County Citizenry and that that is where
we have this posted. And yes, you know what, there
are a lot of people that are looking now for
a place of common sense, and we've got to let
them know that it's actually on the side where the
principles actually work. And that is why you know, we're
for the constitutional principles and and why we've got to

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We've got to show that we're not the mean party,
the other one who has shown that their policies don't work.
But time to come together and grow this movement of freedom.
So we invite everyone to join us.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
I also want to invite people who have never been
involved in the party to come out to this. It's
a little way to sort of understand some of the
dynamics of party politics without going to a party meeting.
There's nothing wrong with going to a party meeting, of course,
but if you just are not ready to commit to
that and you just want to maybe see what getting
a little more involved looks like, I would strongly recommend this,

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and just a phenomenal group of people. Like top to bottom,
this is just a really great group of people. If
you're looking to connect with people that lean right but
aren't rapidly political, this may be the organization for you.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
I really feel that way. It's like, you know, we.

Speaker 11 (29:15):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (29:16):
We have a tag phrase for Douglas County Citizenary, which
is liberty loves company because there's so many sides of
the political spectrum that our misery loves company.

Speaker 10 (29:25):
That is not where we are.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
We actually believe that when we come together, and really
that big tent idea that Reagan had where you're eighty
percent friend or the person you grew with eighty percent
of the time is not your twenty percent enemy. Well,
you can't be conservative and authoritarian at the same time.
That actually is an oxymoron, but it is fun because

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you know what, It also increases hope that there is
a place for people of goodwill who understand our rights
are life, liberty in the pursuit of.

Speaker 10 (29:56):
Happiness and that does not have to be the same
for each person.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
Our idea of happiness might not be mine, and that
is okay, But we stand for one another's right to
live free and then we have a great time.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
All right, deb Flora. The event is happening tomorrow night.
I wish I could be there, but I'm going to
be in beautiful Puerto Rico still, so we'll have to
get a full update on how it went. Dev So
good to see you as always, You know you.

Speaker 9 (30:25):
Too, Thanks man, You have a great time in Puerto Rico,
We will miss you tomorrow and hope everyone joins us.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
All right, that's Deborah Flora. Let's take a quick time out.
We'll be back right after. This interesting thing happened on
the first day of the Trump presidency.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
He pardoned all of the.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
People that had been prosecuted by the Department of Justice
over their actions on January sixth.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
And this should be appalling.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
It should be appalling because some people fomented a significant
amount of violence.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
I don't know if they were baited or not.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
I know that's the big thing to say, is like, ooh,
there was thids in there and they made them do it. Well, regardless,
they still did it. Unless they're in some kind of
hypnotic trance. They did it willfully and of their own volition.
And I don't think this would have happened.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
I don't think Trump would have pardoned everyone written not
for the pardoning.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Of all of Joe Biden's family preemptively. Last week, people
hearing Democrats talk about how it would be an absolute
admission of guilt if someone was to preemptively pardon their family,
and yet guess.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
What just happened. Their guy did exactly what they.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
Accused Trump of doing when he left office the first time.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Hey, hey, Rod, do you.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Remember go back in the way back machine real quick
in your mind. Do you remember when Trump issued all
those blanket pardons of his family.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Now, because it didn't happen, everything they accuse him of doing,
they themselves are doing instead. When we get.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Back, we talk about reform versus revenge when it comes
to the Department of Justice. I have got a very
smart college professor on from Hillsdale College coming up next
to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
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Speaker 4 (32:34):
Keeping is sad Bab Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second
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Speaker 6 (32:42):
And I'm very excited right now to have my next
guest with me is the Associate Dean and professor of
Government at Hillsdale College's DC campus. They have a campus
in Washington, d C. And doctor Matthew Mehan. Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 11 (32:57):
Thanks for having me, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
So let's talk about something that is a big, big,
big fear of those on the left and for some
on the right, a big, big hope. What are we
looking at when it comes to the Department of Justice.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Pam Bondy just got grilled pretty hard by Democrats who
wanted to ensure that she would not weaponize the Department
of Justice.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
And I got to say, they have cajones the.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Size of cantelopes, because we all know what's happened over
the last four years with the Department of Justice. But
I want a functioning, fair minded Department of Justice. How
do we reform the DOJ without retribution from the DOJ?

Speaker 11 (33:40):
Yeah, I mean the short answer is very carefully.

Speaker 12 (33:44):
I think it's a real trick to be able to
both go after some of these law fair antics while
also keeping the proper understanding and the appearance so that
people understand that justice isn't about going after one's political enemies.
I think the problem is the left, the Dems, in
a certain sense, have actually decided to hide within a

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kind of thicket of thorns where they do bad things,
but they do them very overtly politically, so that when
you go after them, they say, oh, you're being political,
so tempting the good guys to destroy justice while trying
to do it. And so I think there's this we
have to do it very carefully, and I think there's
a kind of order or procedure that we need to

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go about in order to do that.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Let's start with personnel, because I think that in my view,
and I'm not, you know, intimately involved with the upper
echelons of the Department of Justice, but there seems to
be some people at the top that philosophically may need
to go. How do you do that without those accusations
of he's purging, he's purging political enemies. How do you

(34:51):
change or make any personnel changes without, to your point,
them saying, oh, you're stacking it with loyalists or whatever.

Speaker 12 (35:01):
Well, I think that in one sense, there's easy ways
to do to do that with regard to the civil service,
looking at people who've done what they ought to have
done or not done what they have to be done.

Speaker 11 (35:13):
And I think that one of the major kind of well,
ran back up, you don't want show me the man
and I'll show you the crime. Stalinists purges, right, What
you do want is show me the.

Speaker 12 (35:24):
Crime and oh, look, here are the here's the man,
here are these people that violated a really important law
and and and therefore.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
Need to go.

Speaker 12 (35:34):
And I think that's the way to go forward. And
so I think Trump should with Pam BONDI say, you
know what we're going to do. We're going to go
after anyone who perjured themselves or suborned perjury, or lied
to the courts, to the Congress, to their superiors. And
where you can find someone who broke good faith with
others in a you know, egregious way. I mean, not

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every little thing needs to be enforced. Obviously there's prosecutorial discretion.
I think that's going to just happen. Perforce Pamp Bondi's
an experienced person, so as Trump. But what is the
thing you go after? I think you go after they're
breaking faith. And why that is, I think is because
that protects you from any kind of understanding of, oh,

(36:17):
you're just doing this against your political enemies. Because when
you attack, rather prosecute and try to purge that crime,
the reason you try to purge it is we have
to be friends.

Speaker 11 (36:31):
We have to be a nation again. We have to
know that the thing you say is the.

Speaker 12 (36:37):
Truth, so that we can know what each other thinks,
know what the other is doing, and then we can
agree to disagree. Sometimes we can win in those elections,
but we can trust one another that our word is
our bond. Pam Bondi said that in her testimony before Congress,
and it's actually in the words of the oath of

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office that the Donald Trump and Jade Vance just book
that they're going to do this in good faith without
mental reservation. Meaning if I speak under oath, or if
I speak before Congress or before a phi as a judge,
or if I speak to the press about someone's reputation,
I'm telling the truth. And if they're not, if they're

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a liar and worse, and I think these is where
you start. If they're a perjurer, that's where you have
to go, because I think that will actually get rid
of a lot of the worst malefactors.

Speaker 11 (37:30):
Because it's one thing to say have a bad ideology.

Speaker 12 (37:32):
It's another thing to say, I have a bad ideology
that defends and upholds lying to my fellow Americans and
to Congress and to courts and to the press. That's
I don't care what your ideology is. We can't have
a democratic republic if you're doing that.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
So let me ask you about the Biden pardons on
the last day in office, because the notion of accountability,
and I'm going to use the J sixth part that
just came out yesterday Donald Trump partons everybody from the
January sixth situation, doesn't matter what they did, doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Who they hurt, they were all pardoned.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
I said earlier on the show, I don't necessarily know
if everybody gets pardoned, had Biden not used his pardons
to preemptively pardon all these people, something that Democrats have
railed against in the past when they thought.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Trump was going to do it, Which is kind of funny.
But how does all this this is kind of new.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
We're in uncharted territory a little bit, this pardon versus
pardon thing.

Speaker 13 (38:32):
What is this?

Speaker 12 (38:35):
Yeah, So I do think that if we're talking about
the sort of going after one's political enemies, that's almost
a different thing than partning someone you think is a
political ally. And in one sense, the J six pardons,
I mean, the punishment has been the process for a
lot of them. I mean, anyone who's being released now
has been in prison for a long while. I think

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commensmer with riot. Actually, ideally you'd want them to be
sorry for the things they did wrong. And I think
that's true of many of the Jay sixers who did
something wrong. I've heard a lot of apologies about the
parts that they shouldn't have done. But the ones who
are welcomed in by a cop and said, you know,
I don't like, I don't respect what you're doing, but
I understand it, or something like that, or I.

Speaker 11 (39:20):
Don't like what you're doing, but I respect it like that.

Speaker 12 (39:22):
That's a person who thinks they're being let in by
the authorities, right into the people's house, right. That's so
it's very complicated, and so the blanket pardon, I understand it.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (39:32):
I would rather be parsed out more easily. But I
get the symbolism.

Speaker 12 (39:36):
With regard to what Bien's doing, that's a masterclass and
how to abuse the plenary power of clemency, right, those
blanket pardons for eleven years, those pregnant eleven years of
h and protecting Fauci and others like that. Stuff's gross
and wrong because what you're supposed to do is actually
someone should either have been punished, right and then you

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show mercy, or if they're about to be punished, The
only way you can let them off is if they
are contrite, they're actually sorry and say, look, I screwed up.

Speaker 11 (40:10):
And the reason why that's the point is back to
that perjury.

Speaker 12 (40:12):
Question of how do you actually have friendship and politics
again as opposed to this creepy.

Speaker 11 (40:18):
Sort of cold civil war where the.

Speaker 12 (40:20):
Long knives are out and it's law fair and lying
and destruction of person, property and reputation right. The way
to go back to that is that you actually are honest. Hey,
I want clemency. I want to be pardoned, but I
screwed up. I lied, I did ax, I did why
it was not right. I am sorry, and I would

(40:41):
like to come back into a relationship with the political community.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
I think you have to do that.

Speaker 10 (40:47):
And so.

Speaker 12 (40:49):
A real clemency is there's some strictness or there's already
prior punishment. I think with Jay six you have prior punishment,
but with Biden you have neither. Nobody's been punished. It's
all a lot of it right or mealy mouthed, and
nobody's sorry because there's no strictness. So you've got to
put justice first, then mercy can follow. And I think
that's the way Trump should and Pam BONDI should be

(41:11):
looking at this too. Is be very strict on some
of these high level lawfair perjurers and deceivers. And then
once the punishments have been assembled, the prosecution has been
successfully demonstrated beyond this Jedi with doubt, then you can
open the door to clemency and say, are you sorry
for what you've done?

Speaker 11 (41:29):
Then maybe you can get your jail get out of
jail free card. But first you have to be honest
and you have this much good faith which is a
lie because you've been a liar. Right, We're going to
take you down a negative four. And if you want
to come back to zero and just be a citizen again,
you got to say sorry and then we let you out.
And so we don't want it. We don't want our
enemies to be locked up and bloodthirsty.

Speaker 12 (41:50):
Revenge right and sort of snakes in the bed Roman
Empire style like killing emperors and things.

Speaker 11 (41:55):
We want justice and friendship again and equality under the law.

Speaker 12 (41:59):
And I think you have to go after these sort
of high level things that threaten honesty and integrity even
between people who disagree. And that's why I think perjury
is the top of the list, subordination of perjury, meddling
with documents, that sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
You know, I agree with you.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
I mean, there's a there's very shades of like post
Civil War reconstruction.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
In what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
It's it's that if we if we handle this the
wrong way, we just create more animosity. But I and
I think every American wants to know that if the
FBI comes knocking on our door, we're going to be
treated fairly, and that there isn't this two tiered system
of justice that we've seen.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
So what are the chances that that, you know, some.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
High level people will be held accountable, do you think
in some way before they ask for clemency or I
don't know, because I think that for me as a citizen,
I want to know that that two tiered system of
justice has been dismantled because that concerns me greatly.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
It truly does.

Speaker 12 (42:59):
My friend Met Kittle made the point the other day
in a similar conversation we were having, saying, there's no
two tiers system. Really, it's just justice or injustice, right,
like some people are just being treated very badly, right, So, yeah,
I agree, it's an intolerable thing to have that two tiers.
The I do think that that part of what needs
to happen is is that you have to lay out

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strictness first and mercy will come as a kind of
vision for people.

Speaker 11 (43:27):
But what there's two temptations. One is that the bloodthirsty go.

Speaker 12 (43:31):
Too hard right, and then you get the Trump administration
looks like they're just continuing the cycle, the sort of
carousel of death that destroys the republic, reprisals.

Speaker 11 (43:42):
Law fair, go after enemies.

Speaker 12 (43:44):
The other temptation is the sort of false honor of nope,
forgive and forget, just move on right, because that's actually
they've been too bad. It is too systemically corruptly grotesque.
There have to be repercussions. So I think Trump is
in probably a good place to actually take some high
level people to task, right. But I think that he's

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also hopefully and he's made gestures and noise to this
to this effect. So I'm very hopeful that he can
and will sort of thread this needle very carefully but
also open up the door to you might be my
political enemy right now, and you're also a violator of
the law, and so you're going to be punished. But

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if you can make friends with the American people with
me and with the law. Again, clemency is yours, and
we can go back to zero and have a handshake.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
And I think that you have to.

Speaker 12 (44:39):
Give people that whole arc because if you're just going
after them to punish them, and they don't see that
you have strictness here, because they have to stop doing
this to everybody, right, And you punish people at the
time so that they stop meddling with people at the bottom.

Speaker 11 (44:54):
Right, So you're gonna go after.

Speaker 12 (44:55):
Some big fish, I think, right, so that the littler
fish know that they won't be protected by big fish, right.
And I think that will solve the citizens being mistreated
by the FBI or anybody else by doing that. But
then there has to be this vision of no, no, no,
we actually want restoration of peace, amity, concord, citizens, friendship,

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good faith. It's not just justice and punishment that's going
to come, right, but that can be ameliorated if you
are contrite forthright about what you did wrong and show
a firm purpose of amendment that you won't do this anymore.
And then the door of mercy is open. But people
too often flip it. They're too merciful at the beginning,

(45:37):
so there's no justice. It's just fake forgiveness, and everyone
just goes about doing bad things in the next administration.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I think that I love that.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
I would love it if that was the way things
went down, But I think that would ultimately be really
unsatisfying to at least a section of Trump supporters who
are tired of seeing Republicans roll over on this stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
To your point, and I don't think they're wrong.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
I do think Republicans have jumped to forgiveness too quickly
without holding people accountable.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
But that being said, I would love it if we
could do this.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
And then at that point, you know, I was raised
in the South, and whenever I would get start acting
like an idiot, right and just act the fool, my
grandmother would look at me and say, you were raised
better than that, right, And I kind of feel like
I want to say that to the party, like we
were raised better than that. We can't control what if
somebody else does, but if we can just hold someone

(46:30):
accountable and then if they deserve it, give them grace.
To me, that would be the best possible outcome from
your lips to God's ears.

Speaker 11 (46:38):
Yeah, I agree, I think that's right. I also think, though,
don't forget, some of these.

Speaker 12 (46:43):
People are recalcitrate liars, and they will not ask for
clemency on the proper grounds, and if they don't, it
shouldn't be granted them. So I think there will be
some satisfaction because some of these people will try to
pretend to be martyrs and congrat relations. You're a fake prisoned,
imprisoned martyr under your own lying garbage, you know, gaslighting, right,

(47:08):
good for you? Like they'll I think they'll they'll be
a pound of flesh regardless, because some people really do
need to go to prison if they're so vicious that
they cannot break out of you know, the shell or
the mode they're in. Of lined everyone. So I think
it'll be a little of everything. But I also think

(47:29):
I think the American people, and I think MAGA, and
I think the Republican Party, and I think a lot
of people who've even been abused, they do have the
common sense of the American way, which is right, you
can't get everything you want in this life, right, and
so you better get what you should. And I think
this path forward is something like what we should do,

(47:50):
even if it's not everything that we might want, because
it's not till heaven when God will wipe away every
tear right, and every justice will be done and every
wrong will be And.

Speaker 11 (48:00):
I think you know it's the Marxist to try to
make a heaven on earth, and that's not what we do.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Amen to that.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
Associate Dean and Professor of Government at Hillsdale College in Washington,
d C. They have two campuses, one in Michigan, one
in Washington, d C. I really appreciate your time at
Thank you for coming on the show, and hopefully we
can we can revisit in a in a in a
year or maybe a little bit shorter, and see how
we've done with our prognostication about this.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
We can regroup and see what's actually happened. I appreciate
your time today.

Speaker 11 (48:34):
Yeah, No, happy to report from our forward operating.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Base in d C.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
All right, thanks Matt.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
You know, there's some of the stuff that has happened,
and we haven't even gotten into this yet, but oh
my goodness, gracious, some things that Trump did on the
very first day of his administration. And there's a lot
on this list, and everything that's on here, I've already
breast my discontent with ruling via executive orders, and Executive

(49:04):
Order number one by Donald J. Trump is exactly why
the first order President Trump signed rescinded seventy eight executive orders, actions,
and memorandums. Bye President Biden, Bye Bye Biden. Now I'm
not sad to see any of those go, but this
kind of makes my point about ruling by executive order,

(49:25):
and a lot of the things that are in this
need to be codified into law, and I'm afraid the
legislature will take a pass. He pardoned most of those
convicted in the January sixth attack. He commuted the sentence
of some people who were still in jail. He signed
an order renaming the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf
of America.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I mean, can we even do that? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
I feel like somebody's gonna sue us over this, Like
who makes the maps, who's the decider of the names?

Speaker 4 (49:54):
But whatever.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
He also renamed Mount McKinley Mount McKinley. They declared a
national urgency at the US Mexico border. He pledged to
restart a policy that forced asylum seekers to wait for
immigration court appointments over the border.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
In Mexico.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
He signed an order ending birthright citizenship, which is currently
enshrined in the constitution.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
This is almost certainly going to be challenged. But here's
the kicker, you guys.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
We've never had a case that went to the Supreme
Court where people who came into the country illegally and
then had a child had that citizenship of that child challenged,
and this could be an opportunity for the Supreme Court
to weigh in on this. So he did that on

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the first day. He ended the Border Patrol app. That
border app gave legal entry to a million immigrants or more.
He also planned to end catch and release policies. He
also planned to end refugee resettlement at the border and
start building the border wall. He's also expected to ease

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regulatory burdens on oil and gas. He's directing federal agencies
to investigate and address trade deficits in unfair trade and
currency practices. He does appear to be holding off at
the moment on his tariff threat, and I'm telling you,
you guys, that is just talk to bring them to
the table. He ordered the government to assess the feasibility

(51:23):
of creating an external revenue service to collect tariffs and duties.
He signed a directive ordering executive departments and agencies of
government to address the cost of living. Mister Trump, President Trump,
dare I say you want to help address the cost
of living, you reign in government spending and listen to this,
you guys.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
I think that the man found a way.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
To reduce the size of the federal government without firing
a single person. He signed orders that froze federal hiring
and required all federal workers to return to fault time
in person work immediately. That is, I'm telling you, I

(52:07):
would not be surprised if ten to fifteen percent of
the federal workforce just quit.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Over that alone. That's not all that the man has done.
On the first day. I got a whole list of
stuff over here. I mean a list of stuff. When
we get back. Let's chat for a moment. TikTok has
been given a seventy five day reprieve, but a rod
sleuthing the net has uncovered a possible conspiracy theory about

(52:36):
new ownership for TikTok, which has been created by a
few breadcrumbs here and there. We'll find out what the.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Latest there is, but I'll tell you the rest of
the stuff that Trump said, because this is a couple
of things that he did were pretty astounding and the
only thing that would make me happen about some of
these that he just said. You know what, we're withdrawing
from the United Nations, but we did withdraw from another
giant organization that we provide.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Most of the funding for. I'll explain which one after this.
Keep it on, KOA. I am in beautiful San Juan,
Puerto Rico. What am I doing here?

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Well, my good friends at American Financing, in addition to
their phenomenal Colorado based mortgage company.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Have a little side project in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
Damien is from Puerto Rico and wanted to come back
and create something wonderful. He wanted to start a kitesurfing school,
and instead of just doing that, he also bot a beach,
bought a beachfront hotel, bought a building, and is created
an incubator and co workspace and they have this beautiful
content creator studio down here, and they asked us me

(53:46):
Willy b from KBBI and NRF from ninety three to
three to come down and kind of, you know, just
get the dust off and give him some feedback on
things that are working. Has just been a really incredible experience.
If you're ever look at a kite surf, Ayrod, would
you ever try kitesurfing? Do you even know what kitesurfing is?

Speaker 7 (54:05):
Kite surfing? I think I would know what it is,
and I think i'd try it. Yeah, why not.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
I gotta tell you.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
I'm watching people out on the water today before I
came over here to the studio. This is another thing
that I just feel like I'm too old for it now,
because if I really hit the water hard, like I
could hurt myself, you know what I mean. I just
feel like the window for me is closed on kite surfing.
Although I met some delightful Canadians and her husband started

(54:33):
kitesurfing when he was over fifty and now he's retired
and he runs around kitesurfing and whatever it was. It's
just very very interesting.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Now.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
A couple of things that happened on Trump's first day.
One of the things that he did was give a
seventy five day reprieve to TikTok. Now on Saturday night,
TikTok went dark down, the world freaked out, and then
Trump was like, nah, I got you boo and so
TikTok back on. But Anthony has uncovered a conspiracy about

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TikTok online.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
What is the latest?

Speaker 7 (55:06):
Well, ever since we've been talking about this, there are
some debunked parts to this tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
But here's what we've got.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
The well, I think the most popular theory in terms
of a potential buyer if they were to indeed divest,
is potentially meta meta, Facebook, Instagram's Zucker all of the above,
but half of the things are smoke. Half of the
things there may be some fire. So first of all, Shoe,
I think it's ze Chew. You know, Senator I'm singaporeon

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the CEO. Well, ceo is no longer in his bio
on TikTok, which isn't entirely surprising. That doesn't point to
meta directly, but it does suggest that maybe he'll be
on the outs if they do indeed sell, or maybe
he already is.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
That's possible.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
The other thing people are pointing out is that Facebook
now has a TikTok account, which has been debunked because
they do, but they've had one since twenty twenty two
that haven't posted on it.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
Instagram again owned by Meta.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
Some people are reporting and as of right now, I'm
looking at my Instagram and it does have this that
they have been changing some profiles to rectangles instead of squares,
which is very comparable to the visual aesthetic of again, TikTok.
Some people have been seeing ads for Instagram on TikTok,
not confirmed.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
I personally haven't seen them, and.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Some people have thought, well, maybe there's been ads because
of the potential incoming ban on TikTok that Meta is
looking to take advantage, so maybe something there Another thing
that got debunked. Apparently people have been able to see
that you can sync with other platforms through TikTok and
maybe even vice versa.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
I don't know about the vice versa part.

Speaker 7 (56:42):
I'm just assuming I'm that one, but apparently that maybe
has been a feature that has been around for a while.
And then the other crazy the last crazy one here
that is just kind of off the rails is that
the downtime between Saturday night and what midday Sunday.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
I think when TikTok came back, that.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
Time could have been potentially to switch over from the
TikTok servers to Meta's servers, and that's why a lot
of people I've been saying that their algorithms on TikTok
have completely changed. Haven't seen as much crazy conspiracy, conspiracy theories,
conspiracy theory stuff, or other crazy stuff because maybe the

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switching over to Meta's servers for the incoming sale FTC.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Are you listening because that would be a monop I
don't think all.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Of that being what it is.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
I mean, well, first of all, that kind of deal,
you can't do that under the cover of night Right.
You have to That's like to your point, regulators are
going to want to know. But TikTok has been given
a seventy five day reprieve and a Rod made the
almost exact same argument that Donald Trump made in a
video that I have today on the blog where Trump
is like, look, I feel like TikTok is the least

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of our worries that all of these you know, shopping
platforms and they're taking all your information. My issue with
TikTok is one hundred percent content related, Like one hundred percent.
We've basically given our geopolitical foe an open door to
come in and spread whatever kind about propaganda they want
to our young people here, and this is what they've
been doing for decades through the Confucius institutes all over

(58:16):
college campuses where China came in, set up a Confucius Institute,
and then you were not allowed to criticize China anymore.
They were going to take their money in their marbles
and go home. This is what you do when you
were in a totalitarian regime. So you know, it looks
like they're going to be able to continue doing it,
which I just find really incredibly.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Appalling on many levels. But you know, they didn't ask me.
Let me talk about some of the other stuff that
Trump did in his first day in office. Some of
these I absolutely love, I mean really really love.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
He is terminating diversity equity inclusion programs within the federal government.
Another order declares that the federal government will only recognize
two sexes, male and female, and you're gonna have to
figure it out. Trump declared an energy emergency and promised
to drill, baby, drill. He will eliminate what he calls
Biden's electric vehicle mandate. He halted the leasing of federal

(59:11):
waters for offshore wind farms.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Which here's the thing, like, we don't know as much
and this is gonna sound so funny. We know way
more about drilling for oil in water than we do
about wind farms and water. Right, So wind.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Farms, and there's no I want to be clear about this,
There is no one who has been able to prove
a connection. But it is suspected that the drilling that
goes on for these wind farms creates a sonic problem
for whales and other species that use sonar, and so

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again that has not been proven.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I want to make sure I say that, but that's
the concern.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
So it's kind of like I don't necessarily think halting
offshore wind farms is a great idea because I definitely
am in all of the above.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Person we need power. The problem is it does ruin
the view now.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
He also signed in order that prohibits the issuance of
any more regulations by government regulators pending a review.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
His people are going to come in and go, do
we really need that? I don't think.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
So he signed a directive that instructs the Attorney General
to scour federal agencies for indications of political bias and
work he conducted under the Biden administration. This is exactly
what I was talking to with doctor Matthew Mehan just
a moment ago. And then you want to know my
absolute favorite thing that he did yesterday. I love this

(01:00:39):
so much I could marry it because I want to
see one of these people sue and I want to
see them testify in court with their hand on a
Bible and all that jazz about what they knew and
when they knew it. He revoked the security clearances for
fifty one signers of a letter that suggested that the

(01:01:01):
contents of Hunter Biden's laptop could be Russian disinformation. You
remember that murderer's row, don't you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
And by the way, these people still make their living
off of those security clearances. Do you think to yourself,
why would someone from the Obama administration still have a
security clearance?

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Because they can. But guess what that falls under. The
president can take it away, just like the president can
grant it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
Now, some say, well, he didn't follow the proper procedure,
so sue him. I'd love to see you testify under
oath about what you knew about what.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
You were saying. And I bet it wasn't that you
were certain that it wasn't fake.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
I bet that we'd be able to get to the
bottom of at least a few of these people admitting
that they were leaned on to sign this by the
Biden administration.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
That one made me. I squealed with joy when I
saw that one.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Trump has announced he's withdrawing from the Paris Climbing Accord,
the most useless climate accord in the history of climate accords.
He is also calling for the restoring of free speech
and ending federal censorship. And of course he implemented the
Department of Government Efficiency and Elon Musk is solely in
charge of that. As Mavek Ramaswami has announced he is

(01:02:19):
leaving DOGE under criticisms that he wasn't actually doing that
much at DOGE, I might point out, but he is
going to be running for governor in Ohio, which is
his home state, getting ready for his own presidential run
in the future. He's got a lot of kitchen up
to do now that jd Vance's vice president. Just throwing
that out there, Mandy, you should watch Planet of the

(01:02:40):
Earth by Michael Moore on YouTube. It's very eye opening
and sad. Honestly, I refuse to watch a Michael Moore
movie ever again, and I've watched a lot of them
in the past, starting with Roger and Me, his first
big documentary where he tried to get the big three
carmakers to talk to him about shutting down factories in

(01:03:00):
but since then and I'm gonna lead use this and
I don't remember what it was called, the one about
healthcare where he tried to say that the Cuban healthcare
system was some shining example of what socialized medicine looks like.
At that moment, I knew he was willing to lie
his ass off for his political viewpoints. So I will

(01:03:22):
never bother spending a minute of my time ever watching
that man's work ever again.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
We'll be right back after this on.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
KOA an email Mandy that Planet of the Humans is
a different Michael Moore, not the nut job that did
those other movies.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Okay, I'm in then I'll watch it totally.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
I have so much stuff on the blog today, But
real quick, I'm gonna tell you what Trump withdrew from,
because I am for you know, the only thing that
would have.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Made me have your years if he'd withdrawn from the
United Nations. But that might be seen as a little aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:03:55):
He did withdraw from the World Health Organization, the World
Health Organization wants us to seed our sovereignty when the
next pandemic rolls around. And as I don't have confidence
that the World Health Organization would not continue to fund
gain a function research that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Doctor Fauci funded, I don't trust them and I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Willing to give up our sovereignty and they can go
about their business by themselves. The problem is is that
the United States is their number one funder by.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Really, really far. It's not even close.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
I looked at twenty twenty two numbers and it was
like one hundred and sixty billion from the United States.
Forty three billion from China was the next one. So, man,
that is going to be a tough thing to get over.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
That is there. I already talked about the Elon Musk
stupid trope.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
No, he did not throw the Hitler sign. And thanks
to the Internet, God bless the Internet. I just reshared
on my Twitter feed a photograph that lips of TikTok
put together of Hillary Clinton throwing the Nazi sign.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Oh, Barack Obama throwing the Hitler sign.

Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Oh, there's Elizabeth Warren and there's Kamala Harris, all with
the Nazi sign. And oddly none of these people have
ever been embroiled in a controversy about it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
So weird anyway, so weird.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
There's a great story on the blog today from Complete
Colorado dot Com, page two, and I'm trying to get
Amy Oliver Cook on the show about this soon, because
I think this is first of all, I want the
Independence Institute to be able to take a victory lap.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Although this is one of those victories where you're like, dang,
I wish.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
I had been wrong about that, And yes, indeedy they were,
but not the way that I'm about to explain. Carrot
Polis back when he first became governor, remember he was
going to transition the state to one hundred percent renewables
by twenty forty. He blew smoke up our collective skirts
and tried to tell us that he was going to

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be able to do it with a bottom up of
using market mechanisms, and it was going to be so cheap.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
It was going to be the cheapest of cheap.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
As a matter of fact, we may even get money
back after this whole thing is over. The Independence Institute,
not satisfied with his platitudes that were empty, decided to
do some projections themselves, so they figured in twenty seventeen
that the transition could cost forty five billion dollars, and

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Polis was like, oh, I scop at the Independence Institute,
that's crazy. That number is way too high. Now did
he offer an alternative figure?

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
He did not.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
Fast forward to twenty twenty four and listen to this
paragraph from Amy's column. Fast forward to twenty twenty four
in the Colorado Energy Office now acknowledges that wind, solar
and battery storage alone, the primary components of Police's renewable strategy,
represent the most expensive path to decarbonization, with projected call

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us ballooning to sixty one billion dollars. That figure doesn't
even include transmission costs. Worse yet, even at this exorbitant price,
driven by a massive built out of wind.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Solar, and batteries, the plan quote barely meets reliability targets.
Not to review.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
The Independence Institute spitballed on the back of a napkin,
knowing John Caldera that it would cost forty five billion dollars,
and the Governor was like, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
You are so wrong. While the governor was right in
that they were wrong because sixty one billion dollars is
what we're looking at. Well done, I I and shame
on Jared Polus, although I'm betting we'll never speak of
this again, ever, ever.

Speaker 14 (01:07:42):
Ever.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
That's on the blog today. When we get back, I
do have some stuff that's not super political.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
We're going to talk a little.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
About Malania's dress last night. Yeah, I know it's shallow
and silly. And the fact that John Fetterman doesn't give
a crap what you think based on what he war
to the inauguration. We're gonna do all that next. Keep
it right here on KOWA.

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Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
I'm your host for the next fifty something minutes, joined
of course, by Anthony.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Rodriguez back in Denver, freezing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
Oh sorry, didn't mean to interrupt that he's back in Denver, freezing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
This took us off. Whereas I am.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Broadcasting live from beautiful San Juan, Puerto Rico. Thanks to
our friends at the great Colorado based company American Financing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
They got a side hustle down here. If you've ever
wanted to learn how.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
To kite surf, they have a kite surfing school. Ever
wanted to day at the only beach hotel with the
beach bar on it, they have that too, And they
have this beautiful coworking space and business incubator because Damien,
originally from Puerto Rico, wanted to do stuff for his
community the same way he's done stuff in the in Colorado,

(01:09:18):
and he wanted to help grow the businesses down It's
just really a super cool thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
So thanks to them for letting me come down and
broadcast from here.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
To the guy who said, I haven't seen you on
the beach yet, y'all, I have not been on the
beach yet because I get up and I am dedicated
to my listeners, so I have to make sure I
do a good show. And so yeah, I'm not been
I'm just saying that so you guys feel better about
the fact that I'm down here.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
We have a ton of stuff on a blog today,
not the least of which is can we just talk about.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Milania went from the hat the ginormous hat to an
absolutely stunning gown for the balls last night, and she
just looked amazing. There is a And the reason I'm
talking about Mallenia is is not because all of a
sudden this is gonna be a show about fashion and
gowns and everything else. But remember, Milonia Trump was incredibly

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mistreated in the first Trump administration. She was not just
It wasn't enough that designers privately said, oh, I don't
want to dress her, I don't want to wearing my fashions.
They all went on social media to talk about how
they would never ever dress the wife of a fascist,
and how could anybody think they were gonna do.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
I mean, it was all so sanctimonious, just so incredibly sanctimonious,
and she was treated very unfairly. And I think the.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
Hat she wore to the actual inauguration, I didn't love it.
It came down too far from my taste. She looked
like an old West gunslinger, and I didn't love it
because I just I do think she's a gorgeous woman.
But there's been a thaw, and apparently there was quite
a number of designers who reached out to her stylists
and said, hey, we'd like to dress her, and she said, no,

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thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
I will stick with the guy who's stuck with me
in the first Trump administration. And she really looks stunning,
really really stunning. I'm interested to see how this Trump
administration shapes up so far in terms of how people react.

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
And treat him or and treat her differently. Now, if
you haven't been to the blog today, first of all,
you got to because it's full of so much stuff. Hey, Ron,
did you see the video of George W.

Speaker 10 (01:11:33):
Bush?

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Which one oh the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Video And I put up a guy on Twitter who said,
is it me or just George W. Bush looked like
he ate a pot brownie?

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
And before you get up in arms about the thought
of w eating a pot brownie, he looks like he
ate a pot brownie and kind of got the giggles
in this video.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
And it's freaking hilarious.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
And I still love W. I have loved W nonstow.
I don't like everything he did, but I just love
the guy. And this video is, I think, really hilarious.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Watch it. Yeah, he's got the giggle exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
It does look like he took one too many edibles
before Thanksgiving dinner, right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
So hard to keep it together. So hard he is,
and outside he does a good job.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Oh it's so cute. It's just, you know, how can
you not love w So that video is on the
blog today.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
A couple of things that I wanted to get into
really quickly about last night. First of all, Monnie's dress fire,
absolute fire. So I'm excited about that. I just think
she looks sunning the trust she had on last night.

Speaker 7 (01:12:50):
Not the hat, all about that hat, all of it,
all of it compared to what was it four years ago? No,
not four years ago, excuse me, twenty seventeen when he
first got elected. The difference there, I I'm not feeling it.
I'm not feeling it. Have you seen the comparison that
she looks like the hamburglar with the hat?

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Yeah, but there's going to be some of that. I
mean there's always negative Nelly's, right, Michelle Obama had negative
Nelli's who always said she looked like a man wherever
she was. Joe Biden has given us plenty to make
fun of as she continues to wear outfits that look
like they're made out of couch covers. So you're gonna
get haters. But the hate was so universal. And more
than that, they basically tried to freeze her out. That

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was what was so like bad about it. And it
was very public. It was a very public shunning of
Malania Trump. I think the dress was gorgeous.

Speaker 7 (01:13:39):
Did you see the fairy that her hat was just
wide enough to keep her out of reach from Donald
being able to kiss her.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
I totally said that yesterday. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
was if you want to make sure your.

Speaker 6 (01:13:50):
Husband, but she didn't have a hat on last night
and they danced and he kissed her, and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
You know it was fine. Whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
I mean, I we're never you and I a rod
are never going to fully understand that marriage because.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Really really really rich people like they don't operate. And
don't get me wrong, please don't take this to say
that if you're really rich you don't love your spouse.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
That's not at all what.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
I'm saying here.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
But there's there's a there becomes a very business partner
sort of dynamic that starts to take hold at a
certain point in your marriage. And I think that they
are probably there. Bill and Hillary Clinton same thing. I mean,
they have such a pe and in another's scuttle But
about Barack Obama and Michelle Obama getting divorced, and I'm like,
that's insane. They're incredibly wealthy. They're not gonna get a divorce.

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They may come to an understanding. I don't know, And
I think Trump and Millennia have come to an understanding.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
I don't think.

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
I think they probably do have some love for one another.
I think most long term couples do have love for
one another.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
I don't know what their situation is, but yeah, I yeah,
that definitely occurred to me with a giant hat. I
mean the giant hat it was. But never let it
be said that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
John Fetterman is one to stand on ceremony because he
showed up for the last yesterday's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Inauguration wearing what was he wearing?

Speaker 15 (01:15:12):
A rod?

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
What do you think John Fetterman was wearing.

Speaker 5 (01:15:15):
That would be a hoodie and Jim shorts.

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
Yep, it was like minus ten degrees in DC. And
now we know John Fetterman's one of those shorts guys
like Dragon, who only wears pants when he really really
has to, and he just decided yesterday he didn't really
really have to.

Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
Yeah, with all due respects to our good friend and
coworker Dragon Redbeard.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
Yeah, I don't think he holds.

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
Quite the position that John does, and so this is
just another mark along the dude, can you dress for
the position of representing people?

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
I'm in that campaign? Correct? Is this was an embarrassment? Embarrassment?

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
At least he's consistent I guess.

Speaker 16 (01:15:56):
I don't know he's consistently professional anything. Dress for the
dress for the job. I'm normally not in that camp.
But it looks awful. He's representing people he leans in,
which doesn't help. I hate everything about it. Dude, dress up,
god bless.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Did you see Lauren Sanchez's bra yesterday?

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Jeff Bezos great blazer and bra combo not good.

Speaker 6 (01:16:20):
No, So they're fighting for the worst dress at the
inauguration yesterday, and we'll see who wins. Here's an interesting
question that honestly, I read this story today and you, guys,
I knew I had to do it today for this reason, and.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
This reason only. If you are a Christian, has it
ever occurred to you in your entire life that maybe
Jesus's name wasn't Jesus real quick?

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
By the way, Dragon did say if I were invited,
I would have worn.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Pants Oh see, he's a classy eye. He just doesn't
like to cover his knees. That's our dragon.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
I'm going to tell you the story about Jesus, and
maybe he didn't have that name, but I'm telling you
before you get outraged, it's gonna make a lot of sense.
We're gonna do that next time in the Daily Mail.
And I find this very very interesting, And at first I.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Was like, is this blasphemous? But I don't think it is.
Experts are now asking whether or not Oopsie, hang on,
let me do this one here. Here's what I can see.

Speaker 6 (01:17:13):
This whole article are now asking if Jesus Christ may
not be the name of the man who is central
to Christianity. Scholars believe that Jesus would have gone by
a name in his own native language that was Aramaic,
and of course that's nothing like English in any way,
shape or form. In fact, the name Jesus even contains

(01:17:35):
letters that weren't used in written language until fifteen hundred
years after his death. Throughout Christianity's two thousand year history,
Jesus's original name has been obscured by layers of translation
and transliteration. Jesus's name prevailed a long linguistic road from
his own Aramaic into Hebrew, then to Greek, and then

(01:17:58):
into Latin before he could ever receive an English translation
in the sixteenth century. Likewise, experts believe that Jesus's last
name was definitely not Christ, but would actually have been
based on his home town.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
That means Jesus's name was most likely yes, you Nazarene.
Now I was like, okay, this kind of makes sense.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
It's a little bit arrogant for us who speak English
to think that back in olden times they would have
been able to predict a name to Jews that would
have been easy for us white people to say so
many many years later.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Jesus, the historical.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
Figure in his disciples, lived in a region of the
Roman Empire called Judea, which is now part of Palestine.
In Israel, there's no Palestine. I don't know what the
Daily Mail's talking about there. However, most scholars believe that
Jesus was born and raised in the town of Nazareth,
which is part of Galilee, a smaller province.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
To the north.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
Professor Denique Hautmann, an expert on the relationship between Judaism
and Christianity from the Protestant Theological University in the Netherlands
told the Daily Mail, we cannot know for sure which
languages Jesus spoke. However, given his family background in Nazareth,
we can assume his day to day language was Aramaic.

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Aramaic first emerged in the modern day Syria and spread
over much of the Middle East during the time of
Jesus' life. Surviving papyri from the Galilee region show this
was by far the vernacular language among the Jewish population.
Was almost certainly Jesus' everyday language. Furthermore, either early Greek
versions of the Gospel specifically record Jesus saying certain words

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of the original Aramaic. For example, the Gospel records that
Jesus would use the Arabic word abba to mean father.
Although Arabic shares similarities with Hebrew, they are completely distinct languages.
By the time of Jesus's life, Hebrew was mainly used
as a language of religion in the same way that
Latin was for the Christian Church during the Middle Ages.

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Although priests would have spoken Hebrew among themselves and used
the language for their religious texts, it wouldn't have been
spoken on.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
A regular basis.

Speaker 6 (01:20:11):
However, Professor Hautmann points out that Jesus certainly seems to
have had a knowledge of Hebrew and even a basic
knowledge of Greek. Jesus, as we would say it today
with a hard j wasn't a name that existed at
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
Of Jesus's life.

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
Instead, Jesus himself would have named used a name in
his native language of Aramaic, Yeshua probably being the most likely.
I just I never even thought for a second about this.
I mean, no Texter, high Mandy. But his middle initial
definitely was H. Right now, I don't think he had
a middle initial texter. I think we need a rim

(01:20:50):
shot for that one.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
That was That was good.

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
That was a good joke that in there, Arod, thank you,
person number two of the Trinity is always existed. His
name became Jesus Yeshua Joshua at a circumcision, as per
Jewish practice. Incidentally, this is the only word that we
know Joseph, his father, foster father spoke. It would have
been his role to do. So they're not talking about

(01:21:16):
what happened. They're talking about the fact that we're assuming
the name in Aramaic was the same as it would
be in Hebrew, in Latin.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
In English.

Speaker 6 (01:21:25):
And that's where this comes from. I got you guys
have thought about this more than me.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
When we get back. She was a mom whose daughter.

Speaker 6 (01:21:35):
Got invited to an art club, except it wasn't an
art club, and now Aaron Lee wants that to stop.
We're going to talk to her next about her lawsuit
against Peoter Valley Schools for trying to indoctrinate her daughter
into some kind of gender dysphorio.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
We're going to do that right after this. Keep it on.

Speaker 6 (01:21:51):
Koa a mom of some kids in Pewter Valley Schools
who had a situation arise that that we're going to
get into it with Aaron Lee in just a second.
That was outrageous, and she decided to sue. The case
was dismissed and now they are appealing and joining me
now Aaron Lee and Brad Bergford, her attorney from Illumin Legal. Aaron,

(01:22:15):
I want to start with you first. Let's go back
to the beginning of the story here for people that
have never heard of this, and tell me what happened,
what has gotten you to the point where we are now.

Speaker 17 (01:22:25):
Yeah, May of twenty twenty one, our daughter came home
from sixth grade and proclaimed that she was transgender, and
we learned that we thought she had been in an
art club. She thought she was going to an art club,
but it was actually a gender and sexuality awareness club
where they told her if you're not completely comfortable in
your biological sex, that means you're trans and heavily emphasized

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don't tell your parents about the meeting about the transgender identity.
They talked about explicit sexual themes. They brought in outside
presenters who really really concerning that had nothing to do
with the school, that essentially sexualized our daughter, talked about polyamory,
talked about puberty blockers, and you know, we're lucky that

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our daughter came home and told us. But there's actually
another family on this lawsuit that you referenced who suffered
in silence for a whole year. It wasn't until we
went public with our story a year later that they
were able to connect the dots and learn that their daughter,
who had attempted suicide because of this grooming, had been
in these secret club meetings.

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
So you decided to fight back because not only did
they do this behind your back, they actively worked and
told your daughter and other kids to not tell their parents,
right to like basically lie about.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
What was going on and keep everything secret. That is
appalling to me. So you decided to sue? On what grounds?
Did you sue? First of all?

Speaker 13 (01:23:54):
Yeah, Well, the role of the club was what you
hear in here keep in here.

Speaker 17 (01:23:57):
So right off the bat, they set the precedent that
we don't tell parents about this meeting.

Speaker 13 (01:24:01):
We don't tell anyone about this meeting.

Speaker 17 (01:24:04):
And I it just nothing I've ever experienced in life
was so violating as learning that our daughter had been groomed, sexualized,
taught to mistrust us, and they took her normal pubescent
discomfort and made her believe that she had been born
in the wrong body, that she was transgender. And so
immediately we knew that our rights as parents had been violated.

(01:24:25):
This was a secret club and they intentionally kept us
in the dark. So that's the grounds of the lawsuit.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
So the lawsuit was dismissed initially, and I'm going to
bring in your attorney, Brad Bergford right now from illumin Legal.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
So Brad, what happened?

Speaker 6 (01:24:40):
The case is dismissed in Colorado? And then what happened
after that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:47):
Well, the case was dismissed on technical grounds having to
do purportedly with the sufficiency of the complaint and weather
under rule twelve by six. And the complaint raised the
right to relief above the speculative level level and adequately

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pled adequately pled the case. And so it was a
very technical basis on which the complaint was dismissed. And
we we believed that the court was incorrect in dismissing
the case with respect to the court, but we appealed
to the Tenth Circuit when the court denied us an
opportunity to to amend the complaint to to make it

(01:25:32):
conform with what the court appeared to be looking for in.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Terms of depleting.

Speaker 8 (01:25:35):
But the bottom line is the plant the complaint was
not dismissed on substance of grounds.

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
So let me ask you this, is it common for
a h the court to come down and say, we're
gonna dismiss this on a technical ground, but you can
make this change and then it will be acceptable.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Was there denial of that for you unusual?

Speaker 8 (01:25:58):
Well, it's it's really common for courts to permit, whether
they invite an amendment to the complaint or just permit.
One's common that one occurs. And in this instance, we
filed a thorough motion to amend the complaint, and we
filed along with it as an exhibit, the proposed amended complaints.

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And the court said it would be futile to amend
the complaint because you still don't have what you need.
In this case apparently doesn't have what it needs to proceed.
So that was the attitude that the trial court judge
took to the case.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
So what happened when you argued the case?

Speaker 6 (01:26:38):
Because you just argued the case in front of the
Tenth Court for Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals, you won't
know they're a result first several months, many months.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
But how do you feel about that?

Speaker 6 (01:26:47):
How did the arguments go, what kind of questioning did
you get from the justices, and what can you glean
from that?

Speaker 8 (01:26:54):
Certainly, well, it's really important to understand, first of all,
that we have brought this case on the on the
proposition that under the law fits, parents are presumed to
act in the best interests of their children. And so
the best interest standard that the Supreme Court has applied
in a number of cases, particularly in Troxel versus Granville,

(01:27:18):
which is a two thousand Supreme Court case, really gives
great deference to the rights of parents when making determinations
about what's best for the children. And then and so,
what the parents, like the Leese and the other uh
the other plaintiffs in the case have experienced is that

(01:27:40):
the schools saying, actually, we're going to keep this a
secret from you because we believe we know better than
you do. And so they've in the schools government schools
have inserted themselves between child and parents, and they've said
things like, you know, we're going to have these conversations,
but your parents might not be safe to have these
conversations with. So it's best if you just keep these

(01:28:01):
between you and us, because we're always safe. And so
they've created not only a secrecy between themselves and the
children that excludes the parents, but then they have also
created a division between the children and the parents that
allows them even greater i think greater ability the schools,
that is, to act in the child's lives and the

(01:28:24):
children's lives and to continue to say things to these
kids that are probably best left in the province of
the parents. And certainly, in any event, the parents should
be the ones to decide if this is their province.

Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
This is the biggest aspect of what schools are doing
with gender dysphoria is the assumption of guilt.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
To your point, they assume.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
Every parent is going to become an abusive, horrible They're
gonna throw the kids out on the street. The street's
gonna have nothing, kids gonna have nothing left if the
kid is honest with their parent, and that assume room's abuse.
It assumes bad parenting, unfit parenting. To your point, to
use your language, and this goes well beyond gender identity issues.

(01:29:10):
These are things that the school is inserting itself into
making decisions about where they've done no due diligence. They've
done no, you've never been able to defend yourself airin
in class and say.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
You know, of course I would love my daughter regardless.
They just roll with this.

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
So this particular issue does have far reaching implications Or
am I reading too much into it?

Speaker 17 (01:29:32):
Yeah, It's what I like to call guilty until proven innocent.
There's this assumption that all parents are going to be
abusive and that they don't know what's best for their
own children, but the school does. And you know, One
of the heartening things today was that many parents like
us showed up. Not parents that are plaintiffs in the case,
but parents like us who've had their children secretly transitioned
by their public school, some parents who've lost custody completely,

(01:29:55):
some children who are still, you know, completely caught in
this belief that they've born in the wrong body, and
all of the parents have the same experience.

Speaker 13 (01:30:04):
It's not just in the Pooter school district.

Speaker 17 (01:30:06):
It's a widespread issue that public schools are assuming parents
are guilty until proven innocent and leaving us in the
dark about a serious psychosocial issue that parents are best
equipped to handle with their own children.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
And more importantly, parents are responsible.

Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
If they medicalize their children, then they are going to
have to bear the responsibilities of that, whereas a teacher
is they don't have to take care of any of
that medicalization kind of stuff, Brod.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Are there other areas.

Speaker 6 (01:30:36):
Where this if you get a favorable ruling and this
moves forward, are there other areas that school should be
concerned about that they could also be affected by a
positive ruling.

Speaker 8 (01:30:47):
For you guys in this case, well, what we've asked
the schools or the courts to do with respect to
the schools and the schools relationship with children is to
really recognize that the parental relationship is the primary relationship
between that children have. And so we also haven't predicated

(01:31:08):
our entire case on there being a medical issue or
a mental health issue, or any other particular kind of issue.
Our whole point is parents get to decide what's in
the best interests of the children, and so really a
favorable ruling in this case for these children and these
parents would translate to favorable rulings for all children and
parents in the state of Colorado. And where the rub

(01:31:30):
comes and where the law meets politics is that in
situations where, for instance, the state of Colorado has made
the age of consent for mental health treatment twelve, and
so twelve year olds can control the mental health treatment
that they get, they can direct it, and they can
even do that to the exclusion of the knowledge of
their parents. And so there could be some conflict down

(01:31:53):
the road just from a legal standpoint because the legislature
has enacted that law, where you know, the rights of
the parents are again kind of front and center. But
this ruling or this decision by the court is really
important because it will, it will for all of the
tense circuit control what parents are able to do in

(01:32:17):
terms of directing and controlling the upbringing of their children.
And make no mistake, this school district was not doing
something that had anything to do with academics, anything to
do with pedagogy. This was purely about social engineering, and
any any intimation contrary to that is simply not to
be believed on its face.

Speaker 6 (01:32:40):
I'm talking with Aaron Lee, who assued the Pewter Valley
School District after her.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
Daughter was indoctrinated and what she thought was an art
club and told she was transgender, and Aaron decided to
fight back.

Speaker 6 (01:32:53):
This case is really fascinating to me because we've seen
this sort of mission creep by schools for a very
long time, and there's there's a big difference. In My
colleague Jimmy Seckenberger used a great example for this. There's
a big difference before between encouraging children to establish a
good relationship with a teacher at school that they.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
Feel comfortable with.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
That that kind of thing happens naturally where everybody had
the teachers they loved, right, and it's quite a different
thing when the schools have decided to subsume parental rights
to some you know, fad ideology that is happening right now.
This is really kind of scary when you get right
down to it. I mean, this is a really big deal.

Speaker 13 (01:33:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:33:36):
And to add to Brad's point, he talked about the
bill nineteen eleven twenty that lowered the age of mental
health care to twelve. Our legislature has now compounded upon
that law, so a lot of parents don't know. In
twenty twenty three, they passed the law ten O three,
which now mandates the mental health survey of all six
or twelfth graders and the results go to the school,
not the parents, and if the child is deemed high risk,

(01:33:58):
then they're referred to the state's mental.

Speaker 13 (01:33:59):
Health health program called Eye Matter. Now I did a
little dig and I took the survey, I was deemed
high risk. I followed the link, and all of the.

Speaker 17 (01:34:07):
Subscribed therapists were sex work positive and LGBTQ affirming. So
they are literally putting into law that our children are
being screened for their mental health behind our back and
then referred to doctors without our knowledge if the school
or the state determines that they are high risk. So
they've continued to build upon these laws, and it just

(01:34:28):
seems to get worse and worse every legislative session.

Speaker 13 (01:34:31):
So there's a lot writing on this lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Brad, I'll let you have the final word.

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
When do you expect to hear and what happens if
you get an affirmative ruling?

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
What happens next?

Speaker 8 (01:34:42):
Well, I don't have any idea when we'll hear. These
rulings can happen been a matter of several months, they
can happen in a year.

Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
It's anybody's guests.

Speaker 8 (01:34:54):
But when the ruling comes in, somebody is going to
appeal this case to the Supreme Court. So you know,
stay buckled in because this is this one's going to
go considerably longer, especially if the US Supreme Court takes
the case.

Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
That's Brad Bergford from the legal team for Aaron Lee,
Mom and fighter.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
Aaron.

Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
I appreciate you making this fight because it is going
to have, as we just said, far reaching implications, and
you're doing this for all parents everywhere, and I appreciate that.

Speaker 13 (01:35:25):
Thank you, and no matter the outcome, I will keep fighting.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
All right, Aaron, Brad, thanks for your time today.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
You Bettens, thank you all right.

Speaker 6 (01:35:36):
That is Aaron Lee and Brad Bergford from the Illumin
Law Firm, and obviously we're going to be watching that
case as it unfold now as I'm broadcasting live from
the beautiful American Financing Content Creator Studios as part of
their incubator for new business here in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

(01:35:58):
If you ever wanted to learn how to cuy surf,
it looks exciting for youthful people who are in great
physical condition.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
And I have someone sitting next to me who is
neither of those things.

Speaker 6 (01:36:10):
I love you, my husband, Chuck, but you are neither
youthful nor an incredibly good physical condition.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Yes, youthful and spirit youth youthful.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
Okay, guys, if you have not been to the blog today,
there's so much good stuff on this the funniest video
ever of George W. Bush, the actual sign that Elon
Musk gave, and a guy with crazy eyes talking about
how aliens are real.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
Of course he had to have the crazy eyes. And
now it's time for the most exciting segment.

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
On the radio of its kind in world of the day.
Thank you for not yelling that louder than you already did.
That was something because he's right here with me. All right, Anthony,
what is our dad joke of the day?

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Please?

Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
When do people start using their trampolines more.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
In spring? Ingo?

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
Springtime? Well done?

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Today?

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Could you boom?

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
Did I tell you my my joke that I love?
My favorite dad joke? A rod doesn't like this joke?
What do you call a Frenchman in sandals?

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
This one again?

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Philip Philop See that's a good wood. I'm telling you
it's a great joke. Everyone, Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is
our word of today? Please?

Speaker 14 (01:37:28):
It is a verb fribble verb r excuse me, f
R I B B l E fribble like trible but fribble, fribble.
And that's a verb too, fribble, too fribble.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
I'm gonna say it's to just waste time to sit
around daydreaming or something. Yeah, you fribble away to.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
Foolish or frivolous manner. Fribble.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
I'm going to give myself partial credit for that, maybe
not a total one hundred percent credit, but I'm giving myself.

Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
I'm taking a hundred percent, of course you are.

Speaker 6 (01:38:00):
Hang on one second, I gotta pull up my trivia
trivia question for the day. All of these people turn
the same age this year, Mel Gibson, Joe Montana, and
Martina Navrachilova.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
What age is it?

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Seventy?

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
I'm gonna say seventy.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Four, seventy I was going to say seventy five.

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
Okay, you got seventy two.

Speaker 6 (01:38:21):
Way, Rod, You've got seventy five, So I'm screwed if
it's that's Oh wait a minute, Okay, this is obviously
an old question. Never mind, let me do a different one.
What's the difference between a turtle and a tortoise?

Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
The land and the turtles are in are aquatic to
some nature, and tortoises are all.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Oh that that's a good gear. Wait say that one
more time.

Speaker 7 (01:38:43):
Turtles like have an aquatic nature they do, and you know,
live some life and water, and tortoises are all on
land by nature.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
You are exactly opposite what turtles. Turtles can go in
in the water.

Speaker 5 (01:38:59):
Extremely yeah, tortoises.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
I listened to that backwards. Okay, you're perfectly fine, by
the way.

Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
Mel Gibson turning sixty nine, he's sixty nine years old
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
I did look that up. Now, what is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 15 (01:39:15):
Please, let's go with peaceful words. Peaceful, peaceful words? Okay,
still or nearly still? Keep this and carry on, Chuck, Chuck?
What is keep calling?

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:39:31):
Who's here we go? Who won yesterday? By the way,
between you two, didn't listen? She did?

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
I did?

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
All right, here we go, Chuck?

Speaker 7 (01:39:38):
About halfway between extremes or one who communicates with spirits
peaceful words?

Speaker 15 (01:39:46):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
Man, that's close. I think I'm gonna go with Chuck.
What is moderate or moderator? You're wrong, Mandy, Mandy?

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
What is a media per Alright?

Speaker 5 (01:39:59):
In music, piano means very this pian?

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
What is slow?

Speaker 13 (01:40:08):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
Wrong, Chuck? It means softly or very quiet? Okay, okay. Proverbially,
you do this to your heels when you're kept waiting.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
I've never heard this one, Manny, What is he sit
on your heels?

Speaker 13 (01:40:30):
Wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
What is I can't believe I'm gonna lose to zero?

Speaker 15 (01:40:35):
What is cool?

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
Cool?

Speaker 9 (01:40:40):
Cool?

Speaker 5 (01:40:41):
And finally, what's the score here?

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
It is zero to minus one?

Speaker 5 (01:40:45):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
Often use come.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
Often use when describing plain food. This five letter word
means not highly flavored, maybe even taken.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
Oh man, that was closed, Chuck?

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
Oh come on wind?

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Anyway, tomorrow I'm going to talk with
someone from the.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
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Speaker 6 (01:41:22):
Super interested stuff going down here, and it's like, if
I'm here, by the way, the governor's had a town.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
A rod, she will not be back in town.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
Yeah yeah, so uh, she's out of town. So we're
trying to maybe get somebody else from her office on
the show. But some of the stuff that's happening down.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
Here is just really really cool.

Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
And if you've been looking to leave the bitter cold
and pull up stakes and move to somewhere else, maybe
here's something tomorrow that's gonna make you want to do that.
We'll be broadcasting live again from San Juan, Puerto Rico.
In the meantime, though.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
Please stay warm.

Speaker 6 (01:41:52):
The worst of the cold is over and we will
be back tomorrow, so keep it right here on KOWA