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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A Thursday edition of the show. I'm your host for
the next three hours, broadcasting live from beautiful Saturn on
Puerto Rico. And what am I doing here? Well, if
you're just tuning in today, you're like, first of all,
I bet the weather sucks there. Yeah, it's terrible, so awful.
My hair looks terrible because of the humidity. It's just
a disaster being here right now. But we're down here

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a courtesy of our friends at American Financing doing incredible things.
And I'm really quite impressed with so much about this trip.
It's been really really interesting for me, and I kind
of feel like I have a new project to watch.
And if you've listened to the show for any length
of time, you know that I always have some kind
of project. Starting in two thousand and five, when I

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got my first show, that was my show. Watching Venezuela
became my project because I was like, we are going
to see the fall of a country because of where
they are in their political process, and lo and behold,
many years later, I was correct. Now I feel the
opp about Puerto Rico. I feel like I was talking
to one of the great people down here last night
and I said, I feel like Puerto Rico is a

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little bit stuck on ready set. They've got some significant
infrastructure issues that have to be addressed, like straight up.
But their new governor is very well connected in Washington, DC,
and perhaps she can figure out a way to get
some assistants. Because this, to me, like this is like
a little hidden gem right now that we in the

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United States to know more about because it's so easy
to travel to. The culture has a very very American
vibe and it also has a very Puerto Rican vibe.
So it's just it's just been really, really good. I'm
also joining, of course, not here in Puerto Rico, but
back in the studio by one mister Anthony Rodriguez. Excuse me, no,
A Rod's was doing the morning show, so I've got

(01:51):
zach Zach. I'm sorry. I knew that and I did
it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Sorry about that, No worries at all. Happy to be here, all.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Right, So let's do this. Let's jump in. We got
a ton of stuff on the blog today, I got
some guests coming on the show, and we got stuff
to do. So let's just get in here. Go to
mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the
headline This says one twenty three, twenty five blog Eggs
are back at the gold Dome. Click on that and

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here are the headlines you will find within I Anyone's.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Listen office halpen ergon all the ships and clipments and
say that's got.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
A press plach today on the blog how much is
green energy really costing us? Complete? Colorado got a makeover.
Representative Ryan Gonzalez wants to make Eggs great again. We
need clarification from Colorado Democrats on immigration. Will poll this
stop the Great Union giveaway? Trump is sending troops to

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the border. The failed promise of ESG investing is para
invested in ESG. Kick and Bennett vote against the Lake
and Riley Act. The CBI case is an absolute dumpster fire.
Margenet grizzwaw malfeasance, a bill filed in search of a problem.
Advice from a self made millionaire. It's time to spend

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transportation dollars on fixing our damn roads. Return to office
is come in full force. Our latest James Beard nominees,
The Colorado Symphony is going Broadway. The Oscar nominees are out.
ADHD seems to reduce lifespan wide away. Your clearance is gone.
Trump left no wiggle room for DEI. Oh, look a

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dude set more women's sports records. What the Biden admin
did to the Jay sixers was awful. Colorado is running
out of other people's money for illegal healthcare. An easy
primer on how to deal with Antifa when they show
up in your neighborhood. Bowie is the most famous dog
in Colorado. I feel seen here a little more on
Puerto Rico. Those are the headlines on the blog at

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mandy'sblog dot com. All right, so, as you can see,
we have a ginormous amount of things and stuff on
the blog, and I tried to find way more local
stuff than I did national stuff. But right now it's
all mixed together in this giant stew because Colorado has
put themselves at the front and center of the immigration

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conversation by being defiant about federal immigration law. And that's
the only way to put it. We are a saing
squarry state and that is going to create problems as
the Trump administration finds that big tries to figure out
a way to first support as many criminal illegal aliens
as we can, meaning the people that are out there,

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the gang members that are already killing people and extorting
people and doing all these horrible things. Much of it
too the immigrant communities, by the way, let's not forget that.
So and Colorado has decided, in some fit of idiotic bravado,
to pick a fight with the only dog bigger than
our government on the block, and that would be the

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federal government. So here we are. We're going to talk
about that a little bit later today. Amy Oliver Cook
had to call him earlier this week on Complete Colorado,
page two, but that's now gone. We'll get more on
that in a moment. But on page two about the actual
cost of the plans that Governor Jared Poulis has put

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in place to get us to what he wants, which
is net zero, and net zero is right now technologically impossible,
but he wants us there. I think twenty forty five,
twenty forty I can't remember to tell you the truth now,
back in the day when he proposed all this stuff,
and he refused to put a price stag on it.

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The Independence Institute never to be dissuaded by a politician
and won't put a price tag on something. They put
a price tag on it, and they came up with
it was going to cost x amount of billions of
dollars to even begin this process and that's what it
was going to cost. And Governor Pullis was like nah
ah and they were like yeah huh and he was
like nuh uh and they said, okay, show us your
numbers and he was like mumble, mumble, walk away. So

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there was no back and forth and it was just
the end Penance Institute doing their analysis and being told
too high, that's crazy by the governor who never shared
his analysis. So where are we now? Where we are
now is that the Independence Institute was indeed wrong. Their
number was too low. And now we're starting to see

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the way this is going to shape up. And if
you think for a second that we are not going
to pay for this in Colorado, you have lost your mind.
Lost your mind. So Amy Oliver Cook wrote the column,
like I said earlier this week, she's going to join
me at one o'clock to talk about this because, first

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of all, I want her to be able to take
a victory lap on this issue, because the Independence Institute
was way closer than the governor was when announcing how
much this was going to cost. But I want to
have a bigger conversation with Amy because they do a
great show called Power Gab on the Independence Institute's YouTube channel.
She's very dialed into energy and energy policy, and I

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kind of want to pick a brain on what she
thinks the Trump administration's focus on drilling is going to
mean with Colorado's incredibly over zealous regulatory structure, those two
things are about to come into conflicts. So we're going
to talk about that and just to have a nerdy
conversation about energy. So, speaking of Complete Colorado, Eno, if

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you don't know what Complete Colorado is, Complete Colorado dot
com is a website that I go to first every
single day, Okay, just to let you know. They are
our statewide aggregator as well as where they publish a
lot of content from the eggheads at the Independence Institute
and John Caldera, who is not an egghead but he

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still published his columns there. So Complete Colorado has had
the same look I think since it started, and it
wasn't dazzling when it started. I don't want you to
think they started high, you know what I mean, So
they didn't have room to grow, but they just did
a complete makeover at Complete Colorado dot com. It looks great.
Talk to Mike Krause, the editor of Complete Colorado, earlier today.

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We're going to get him on the show next week
to talk about it. But if you just want to
go to one place and find out a pretty good
idea of what's happening in Colorado, that is it. We're
going to have Representative Ryan Gonzales on at two thirty.
He's filed a bill that would repeal the KG free
law that Democrats passed a few years ago that has

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made the price of eggs in Colorado very high. We
finally have eggs again, so that's nice. I mean, you
know the month that it was kind of dodgy about
when we were going to get eggs, that was a
little challenging. But now he is trying to repeal that
K tree law. This is just one of a package
of bills that the Republicans have filed at the legislature

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to roll back some of the most ridiculous like nickel
and dime you to death fees that we are now
faced saying in Colorado, the bag fee, the K free
egg situation, the Amazon delivery charge, the twenty nine cents
you pay on every delivery. I mean, all these things
they're tiny by themselves individually, but when you start adding

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them up, we're talking some real money in a state
where things are just too dang expensive. I was talking
to one of my one of the folks wo Orks
with American financing down here. We were just having at
cost of living discussion. And one of the reasons I
really am kind of enjoying it here is that compared
to other islands that I've been to, and I've been

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to a lot of islands, including Hawaii, you go to
Hawaii and everything you buy you're like, I'm sorry, I
only needed one, right, Everything is so expensive that it
feels like you are buying two of whatever you're buying.
So I got here. I feel like the prices of
stuff are very reasonable here. For I mean, we're an island, right,

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It's an island. They got to ship everything in. And
he was saying, oh, people think it's really expensive here.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I go.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
It gets it's a matter of perspective. But when we
went to Switzerland a couple of years ago, everybody kept saying,
all Switzerland is so expensive. But we did not have
a dinner that approached the prices that we pay in
Denver for the same food. I mean, it was not
expensive to us. And I realized, holy crap, the cost
of living in Denver. You just sort of absorb it

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when you live there because you have no choice, right,
I mean, you got to pay what you got to pay.
But we forget at how much all of these little
things have just added up. It's a death by a
thousand taxes. And of course they're not taxes because then
we get to vote on those to their fees, even
though they operate and perform exactly like taxes with no

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difference whatsoever, none whatsoever. So we got that going for us.
Representative rang Gonzalez is coming on to talk about maybe
making eggs affordable again, so we've got to We'll have
that conversation at two thirty. Got a couple of things
on the blog yesterday when we were talking about the

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death of DEI, and I've got more on that today.
I have I read the executive order specifically on DEI,
and something just crystallized for me as I'm reading it.
This is a much different situation in this Trump administration.
Because the Trump administration in the last last you know,

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the first one hundred days of the last administration was
just flailing all over the place, and he made some
executive orders that were very surface level, and we saw
how people work to work around that, as they quote
worked with the resistance within the government. If you read
this DEI executive order, it is deep and broad, and

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it puts in promises that people will face punishment for
not reporting other people, like the snitch line is open.
But think about it like this, It only takes one
person in an office to upset that apple cart entirely
if they just disagree in principle with everything that that

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ideology stands for, which is extremely divisive. I truly believe
that we can have a meritocracy and that we can
get more representation in high level positions for black and
brown people because they're good, because they're undeniably good. Like,
let's just that's one thing that the tech industry does

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really well. They don't care anything about your background, your history,
who you are, what you look like. If you can
do what they need you to do at a high level,
you're hired. They don't care. That's what I want to
bring back, and I happen to think that there will
be many people that can rise to that occasion. That
being said, though, when we were talking about this yesterday

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and I've got more on that today. As I said,
somebody brought up the latest john S Fossil video on
the fail promise of ESG investing, and ESG was environmental
Social governance investing, where investors were supposed to look for
those companies that towed the company line in the sense

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that they were towing the progressive line of you have
to have X amount of people here, regardless of whether
or not the qualified for the job. I mean, just
all of that crap. Well, what's happened is those ESG
funds are not performing. They're underperforming dramatically, and companies are
now running away. They're quite One of the analogies used
by one of the people John Stoscil interviews in this

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video is like, you know that meme of Homer Simpson
backing into the bush, We've all seen it. He's like,
that's what these companies are doing. They're not making an anouncement,
they're just backing into the bush and not coming out again.
So I thought I would put that on the blog
so you guys could see it as well. Now you
can always text us at five six six ninezer, But

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you're already there. I see you, Mandy. The reason we
have an egg shortage in the price of eggs skyrocket,
it is because the hens are all identifying as roosters.
That is I'm sure that's part of it. Yep, I'm positive, Mandy.
The bag fee is bs. They're now trying to charge
for paper bags. The law was for plastic. Well, they
got to make their money back somehow, and paper bags

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are way more expensive, by the way, way more expensive.
Man A did just see the video of the Boston
ice arrests. It was fascinating to see the guy with
eighteen counts on his record saying f Trump and praising
Obama and Biden. That alone is reason enough that Trump
is doing the right thing. Loving what Trump is doing

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to keep our country safe. You know, here's the thing.
We all know that Trump is full of bluster, right.
We know this. We know he he sets a very
what's the word I'm looking for, He'll lay the groundwork
for a blazing inferno, when really he's just trying to
get you a campfire. I truly leave this. We saw

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this in the last administration. So yeah, I do think
that he is going to talk about mass deportations. But
if he does what he's already doing, which is arresting
criminals who are here illegally, people who are doing terrible
things to other people, and he just starts arresting more
and more criminals and throws out the criminals and just

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gonna let everybody else, you know, Chill, I think that
changes the conversation in a huge way. I don't know
what he's going to do. I really don't. I really
really don't, Mandy. I hope Black Rock is the first
company to the FEDS go after. I don't know. You know,
if they did something wrong, then yeah, the Feds can
go after them. If they didn't do anything wrong, then no.

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I am not interested in having our Department of Justice
find a crime and then find someone to pin it on.
We've already we've been doing that, Nandy. Do you think
the death of DEI will make it to Aurora? Pde
that from Rob Rob. You know, there's a new chief
and Aurora. We have not gotten him on the show yet.

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We were going to let him kind of get his
feet under him. I do get emails from Aurora cops.
Some of them are cautiously optimistic, some of them are
more cynical, without any real specifics on why they are cynical,
but there may be some good changes happening. I don't

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think that the Awarda's City Council is looking for any
sort of DEI out of a ra PD right now.
I just think they want to make Aurora a safer city,
and that's what I've seen so far. So we shall see.
We will reach out to the new chief, new ish
chief again and see if we can get him on
the show. He's had a little time to get his

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feet under him. Mandy, So big tech is a shining
example of meritocracy. Huh. Explain why Trump's new daddy, Elon
Musk has had to pay millions in settlement for racial discrimination. Well,
because people who sued him got a jury to leave
it was racial discrimination. I don't know a single thing
about it. I know nothing about it, nothing at all.

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But I have no idea I will tell you about that.
And this is not This is such a non sequitur,
now you know what, I'm gonna wait on the other
side of the break to talk about this. I have
a non sequitur that is not connected to what he's
talking about. But maybe it is people are starting to
dig into the cases of people that were convicted of

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January sixth crimes, and some of the things that happened
to some of these people is straight out of like
a Banana Republic. And it's very, very scary because the
people who committed violence aside, like we're not going to
talk about them. They needed to pay a price for
what they did. But I'm talking about a guy who

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was in the capitol for eight minutes and was given
nineteen months. He didn't break anything, he didn't even walk
outside of the ropes. He was in the building for
eight minutes and he was given nineteen months in prison.
And when you hear the circumstances leading up to that,
it does shake your faith in the jury system just

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a little bit. Let's check it on the news, traffic,
and weather. I'm your host from Porto Rico. We'll be
back right after this. I am in kite surfing Heaven
at the Numero Uno Beach Hotel. Today. I was sitting
out on the beach after I finished my work because

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I got up really early to finish my work so
I can sit on the beach for a minute and
watch these guys with these kites. And it's just it's crazy.
If you don't know what kite surfing is, it's exactly
what it sounds. You gotta surfboard strap to your feet,
you gotta kite strap your waist, and you just fly
across the way. It's insane, just crazy. Be another thing.

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I feel like I'm gonna die at the whole time
I'm doing at it. But you know, it looked fun
for other people. So I want to talk about something
that I've seen on x now and I have no
idea how accurate all of them are. I did was
able to find a case based on the information that

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this goal gives in her long ex thread about this,
but these stories are really bad. There is a woman
on Twitter who I follow. I followed her for years,
Insurrection Barty, and she decided to dig into one of
the January sixth cases and she picked a guy who

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went into the Capitol, walked down the corridor. He was
not accused of violence, he didn't break anything, he didn't
hurt anybody. He was sentenced by a jury to nineteen
months in prison. How did this happen for a guy
who just walked through the capital. The prosecution introduced into
evidence a twenty two minute video montage. Now TAJ showed

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the defendant on the video walking down the hallway, not
being violent, not just walking down the hallway for less
than sixty seconds, and then the remaining twenty one minutes
of the video were all the most violent scenes from

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January sixth, all spliced together with the one you know
six less than sixty second image of him walking down
a hallway, so he wasn't in any of the other
parts of the video. The video was twenty two minutes long,
he was in it for less than sixty seconds, and
the defense argued that this kind of video would be

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highly prejudicial. It's ridiculous. The defendant is only on the
videotape for six seconds and is seen walking peacefully. So
the attorneys for the defense argued that the majority of
the jury in DC is made up of federal employees,
the video was meant to inflame the jury and it

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was a violation of a federal rule of evidence, and
the district court declined the motion as a matter of fact.
He declined every motion that the defense made, every single one.
So they turned a trespass misdemeanor that would have been
a fifty dollars ticket into five misdemeanors and a felony

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charge by charging this defendant with a statute that would
have required the Secret Service to rope off the section
he was in, which they did not. They also charged
him with a statute that would have required them to
prove Mike Pence was in the building at the time
he walked through that corridor and he was not. And

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then they used an Enron statute that the Supreme Court
struck down to charge him elsewhere. And this is I mean,
this is why I think this, to me is why
Donald Trump just said, ethic, pardon them all. Because the
Biden Department of Justice went well beyond what was reasonable

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and it went scorched earth on people that maybe made
a bad choice to walk into the Capitol but then
walked back out. I mean, does that does that seem reasonable?
Nineteen months in prison? Does that seem reasonable to you?
I read that today and I was like, this should
be really concerning for everyone, because everybody who's freaked out

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about Donald Trump being back in the White House, when
is to stop him from doing that to you? Now
that the nice guy Joe Biden did it to others,
the seal has been broken. Right, I mean, oh, now
it's David Gore to punish your political opponents using the
Department of Justice. And how much money are these people spending?

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These are not rich people. Did you see a bunch
of billionaires dorm in the Capitol? No you didn't. And again,
not talking about the people that did violence and hurt
people and hit police officers with fly I'm not talking
about those people. They need to pay a price. I'm
talking about guys like this guy the January sixth GRAMA
for monument. I'm gonna keep keep coming back to her.

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She went up there to pray and did the same
thing this guy walked through the capitol. By the way,
the Capitol is a public space. Someone hit the text line.
It was like, as someone walked around into your house
for eight minutes, which is that illegal. I'm like, well,
that's my house. The Capitol is, you know, a public space.

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Just throwing that in there, Mandy, Oh, I'm sorry. The
doors are locked and it's okay to go in any
public place. Well except that's not at all what happened.
After the initial breach. The police officers just opened up
the doors that you can see like a bunch of
videos or they're just propped open. And that's why these

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people walked in. The doors are propped open. There's two
very different things that happen on January sixth. They're the
people that broke in violently, and then there's the people
that just walked in because officers just open the doors,
and yet they're all being treated exactly the same. And
that's the overreach that I think got everybody pardoned. I

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really believe that. So I love this participating in a
riot win stupid prizes, But were they participating in a
riot if they walked in the back of the Capitol
through an open door, how do you even know that
they knew that was going on. I mean, you've got
to understand there were so many people in different parts
of Washington, DC, and if you're not familiar with the

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way everything comes together, you can absolutely walk up to
the Capitol from one side and have no idea what's
going on on the other side. It's a massive building.
So I don't know that answers to these questions. But
apparently these judges really didn't let the defense ask any
of them. Had to put a video where a guy

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is in it for six seconds and then have twenty
two and a half second or twenty two and a
half minutes a violence that he was not a part of.
If that is okay with you, then we don't live.
We don't want to live in the same society. There's
nothing that makes me angrier and really thirsty for justice

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is when someone uses the court system or the legal
system in a way that they know to be wrong.
And all of these people knew this was wrong. They
just wanted the conviction, that's all. They just walked in it.
So if a bunch of people break into your house,
the guy who just walked around shouldn't be charged. My
house is not a public place. The US capital is

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a public place. But I obviously this Texter has no
interest in perhaps recognizing they sent way too many people
to prison for way too little. They have a trespassing
it's a misdemeanor, fifty dollars ticket. That's what the guy
should have been given, and they sent him to prison
for nineteen months. And again, text her, if that is

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okay with you? What kind of banana Republic do you
want to live in? Do you think Trump should have
that power to do that to you? If you walk
in through a door and don't know what's going on.
And again I don't know what happened here, neither do you,
because apparently the defense is not allowed to give one
these are This is really really terrible, really terrible, Mandy.

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I think the example you're giving for J six is
why Trump commuted all those cases. He shouldn't have done
all of them, but I think he was just so
fed up. How many total pardons in commute commutes has Obama,
Trump the first time, Biden, and now Trump the second
time done well. I know that Joe Biden's flurry of
pardons where he was trying to make us look away
from the fact He've heard in his own family he

(27:02):
had some of the highest numbers. I haven't seen the
final totals, but I will. I will find out. This
sex or sounds like this guy I had a bad lawyer.
If your lawyer gets shot down every single time you
try to do something, and then they allow the government
to do whatever they want, I don't care how good
a lawyer you are when the judge is working against

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you from the very beginning. It doesn't matter if you're
the best lawyer in the world, because ultimately the judge
has all the power all right, we're gonna take a
quick time out. More records are being set in women's sports,
except they're being set by men. We'll do that next.

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Is a stunningly big number, this from Newsweek. Biden granted
pardons and commutations to more than eight thousands, which is
more than any other modern president. Thousands of Biden's clemency
grants were to serious criminals, including murderers, child abusers, child killers,

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and the biggest municipal embezzler in history read a Crudwell.
Several of the grants benefited well connected Democrats. In both
twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four, Biden abused his
pardon power to achieve mass sentencing reductions that Congress refused
to pass by law. President Obama did the same thing

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when he issued mass commutations of drug sentences. And then
they go on to talk about some of the other
the pardons and the people that he he commuted all
of these death row federal death row inmates sentences, but
he didn't commute all of them, which is which just

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shows you how nakedly political this move was. There's no
principle here. I am anti deathbit for the most part,
but I like law enforcement having the ability to have
that on the table, and there's a lot of reasons
for that, but I also want them to be able
to seek the death penalty for people like Dylan Ruth

(29:15):
he's the guy who murdered nine black church growers in Charleston,
or the Boston marathon bomber, Like, what do we know?
There's no question that these people did these things, and
they did such terrible, terrible things, then yeah, okay, I mean, yea,
it's barbaric. I think if we really wanted to make
it a deterrent, we should probably show it on TV
or something. But that feels even more barbaric because I'm

(29:37):
not sure it really is a deterrent. But there are
people who are just evil and they don't deserve the
same opportunity to keep breathing air that they did not
afford their victims. And it's just something I've always struggled with.
But if you're going to be principled, if you're going
to commute death sentences because you don't believe in the
death penalty, then you commute them all and let the

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political chips fall where they may. And Biden also let
the DOJ file capital martyr charges against Luigi Maggioni. They're
still pursuing death penalty cases, and yet he saved these
people who were all convicted of doing awful things in
a very unprinciple. I just I don't know. I think

(30:22):
that when we get further away, like in the next
five years, you're gonna see a lot of Democrats ripping
the Biden administration to shreds. And right now, they're all
trying to tell us that this has just been a
stunning success, Like can you believe how good he was
as president. I mean, I've seen these talk show hosts

(30:42):
and I'm like, but do they just live in a
different world than the rest of us, because it's got
to be right. I mean, they they're not living in
the world when you go to the grocery store and
you have two little dinky bags and it's one hundred bucks, Like,
they're not living in that world. No, It's just it's
very very strange, very very strange. So yeah, I had

(31:05):
no idea that he pardoned that many people. But it
is the president's prerogative, that's the thing, you guys. It
is President Joe Biden's prerogative to let eight thousand people,
some of them murderers, child killers. Let him out since
he can do that as president for federal offenses. So

(31:30):
this is where we are. I do think that we
are going to see exactly how egregious his preemptive pardons
of his family and his friends are going to go,
because that's really never been done before. And now that
president has been set as well, let me get this
story in. It's not going to take me very long

(31:51):
because it's just what you think it would be. We
have some records falling in women's track. Yeah, yeah, junior
sprinter sent records in the women's two hundred meter dash
twenty four point five seconds and the women's four hundred
meter dash fifty five point nine to one seconds program records.

(32:14):
And who said them, Well, Camden Schreiner, who goes by Sadi.
Sadi is a trans woman, so Sadie is a biological male.
And I honestly just don't understand why anyone would want
to be celebrated for beating a woman in sports. I

(32:35):
don't get it. I really don't. I don't understand that.
To me, that says that there's something that's not quite right.
Schreiner is a two time All American Atlantic Region Outdoor
Champion and has set at least five program records in
indoor and outdoor running. My question is what happens to
these runners when we finally move past this absolute idiocy.

(32:59):
That is my question coming up next. Amy Oliver Cook
from the Independence Institute wrote a really good column on
what green energy is really going to cost Colorado, and
you want to hear that conversation next, so keep it
right here on KAA. I saw a column on Complete

(33:24):
Colorado dot Com which got a complete glow up. By
the way, looks all brand new. It looks so good
right now. If you don't go to Complete Colorado dot
com every day, you're really selling yourself short. And some
of the writers there, like Amy Oliver Cook, specialize in
certain areas and hers happens to be energy. And she
wrote a fantastic column for Complete Colorado that I mean

(33:47):
I would have started out, Amy, I would have started
the column out with nin or niner we were right,
but I know you rose above those base instincts. Amy,
welcome back to the show.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
First of all, hey, thanks for having me. Mandy greatly
appreciate it, and I did say about that, but I
take no pleasure in being right. There's no fun in
being right on this occasion. And in fact, when I
actually give presentations or conference or go to a conference
and speak.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
I say, there is no pleasure in being right about this.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
And then I say, in fact, as one of the
things I do as I model for cost and reliability
on state energy plans, which means I've done Colorado's and
it's a nonprofit that I started with two others. I've
actually said in conferences, I pray we're wrong.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Unfortunately so far we haven't been.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
So what we're talking about right now is we are
talking about energy policy that Governor Jared Polis has been
promoting since he became governor. He is all in on
green energy. He wants us to be a net zero
which is an impossible standard to meet right now. We
don't have the tech knowlogy to be net zero. It
is an unrealistic expectation. But he said when he pitched

(35:05):
all this back in twenty seventeen, he was like, it
is going to save us so much money, Like your
savings are going to blow your mind with the savings,
and you guys at Independence Institute were like, let's crunch
those numbers. And see what that's really going to look like.
What did you guys find back then?

Speaker 5 (35:24):
So in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, when we first did it,
we found that it was going to cost about and
this was then, so forty five billion dollars was the
number that we were looking at, which.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Was in twenty seventeen, like that was real money.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Twenty seventeen, forty five billion dollars was a ton of cash.
Now it's just where you find in the couch of
a congressional office.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
But forty five billion and the billion with a B.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
And we looked at a couple of different ways of
how you could get it, and I won't go into
those details, but you know the analysis is on the
Independent Institute's website and it's also linked in that column.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
But what we what he said, Paul is sort of,
you know.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Tut tut, oh, they modeled something that isn't even my policy,
and I don't know how much it's going to cost.
That was the other thing they never offer. He never
offered specifics on anything. But he's like, I don't know
what the exact costs are going to be, but I
can assure you, I guarantee you it's not going to

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be forty five billion dollars to power the entire state
with wind, solar and batteries.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
That's what he said.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
He says wind solar in batteries. State of Colorado only
has vote sources as considered clean, and they want one
hundred percent clean energy by twenty forty.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
They want it powering the entire state.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
And they said, no, it's not going to cost forty
five billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
It's going to be way less than that because when and.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Solar are free.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
What they forget to tell you is that converting intermittent
weather dependent sources into dispatchable, deliverable electricity is super expensive
because you have to overbuild it by magnitudes of ten
to fifteen, and then even then you'll still have blackouts,

(37:28):
so you still can't They can barely meet reliability requirements.
So he dismissed it totally, said it's going to be
less than that, but he didn't have a number, and
he would never give us a number. But since then,
some things have come out that have shown that we

(37:49):
were right all along, and one is the Colorado Energy Office.
So Governor Paulus's own Energy office came out with a study,
which by the way, nobody knows about because they buried
it that the single most expensive ways to decarbonize the
state of Colorado is through wind, solar and batteries, and
they said it would cost sixty one billion. Now, remember

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we said forty five, they're at sixty one. But that
sixty one billion dollar figure is way low because it
don't include transmission lines or distribution systems, and they say
they barely meet reliability requirements.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
So we have since.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Then modeled it again and again, and we've done it
two more times and the number we've come up with
now and listen, I've been reluctant to even say these
numbers because they're so staggering. Literally they're so crazy. But
in Colorado, to completely decarbonize the state with wind, solar
and batteries, according to our modeling, is could be upwards

(38:52):
of six hundred billion dollars six one hundred billion dollars,
and for that way it gets for that. We also
model for reliability, so we take historical weather patterns dump
them into our model to see if we were to have, say,
twenty twenty one weather patterns, you'd be staring at, you know,

(39:14):
somewhere between twenty two twenty four, maybe thirty hours of
blackouts because regional weather events. It means you couldn't import
power from another state. You wouldn't get it. And they're
not going to give you power if they're in the
same weather event. If WYOM means having you know, worse
weather than we are, they're not going to give us

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their power.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
They're just not They're not going to sell it to
us at any cost.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
So you could spend all that money and still not
have a reliable system that could power the stake. I
think based on what you know, what I would call
warning signs out there, I think the state knows.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
I think they know it.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Oh, I think so too. And I was recently in
Germany and talking to one of our tour guides, a
young kid in his mid twenties or whatever you know,
and he and his girlfriend it is so expensive to
heat their apartment in the winter that they sublet it
for three months and went to Thailand. And it was
cheaper to live in Thailand for three months than pay
their power bill in Germany. And Germany is all in

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on green energy right now, So then I started looking
at Oh, they're Spain also all in in green energy,
but it works in Spain. So I started doing a
deep dive of why it works in Spain and why
it doesn't work in Germany. And guess what in the
winter amy Germany is gray and there's no win. And
so all of these renewable sources that they built simply

(40:39):
don't work, and they're still importing. Now they're buying natural
gas from Russia, so they're funding one side of the war.
I mean, it's just such an absolute mess. And I
don't hear people talking about things like, well, do we
have a coastline like Spain? You know, Spain has coastline
they can put It's just it's like this rush to
do something that is only going to work for a

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certain amount of people for a certain amount of time.
I really don't understand it from Governor Polis because he's
not stupid, right, He's not a dumb man. He is very,
very intelligent. To your point, I don't think he believes
this is possible. I think he just needed to get
ahead of Gavin Newsom in the presidential polls, and he's
making us all pay for it.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
I also think, first, I think you're absolutely right, and
having been to Germany in December. I can assure you
that it is cold, it is gray, and and they're
you know, they're just the daylight hours. They're way farther
north on the latitude, you know scale, they have a

(41:45):
shorter period of time of sunlight and they need that power.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
So you're one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
At this point, I was talking to some friends and
one of the things, you know, like why why would
you go all in? Why are you staking your political career,
but also the economy of Colorado and people's lives.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Because without power, people die.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
There's a reason why the state is giving away big
batteries to Medicaid patients on life sustaining equipment.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
They are giving them battery backups.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Why would they do that if they didn't think there
was an issue? But I think to some extent Mandy
on this, and you know, again, hope I'm wrong, but
I think it's ego. I think there is that I
can't be wrong on this, and so therefore I want

(42:45):
to double down.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
And then I'm not going to be there.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
When all of this stuff comes to fruition, because you're
going to be looking at, you know, a utility bill
for residential where you have to put a comma in it.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
You know, you think.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
About one thousand dollars a month utility bills because one
of the in the latest public utilities well actually it
wouldn't have been the latest would have been a week
from yesterday, the late the PUC hearing.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Yes we listen to pc hearing, so the rest of
you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
But in that.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Chairman Eric Blank called some of the figures just mind boggling.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Thirty they need forty three.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
This is Excel Energy alone, So if you're not on Excel,
don't worry.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
You're getting your own figures.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
But Excel Energy alone, state's largest utility provider, forty three
billion dollars is needed for distribution and thirty eight billion
again with a B for transmission.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
So that what does it do? The math on that
one is that eighty one billion dollars for those two
things alone.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
You haven't built a single generating plant. The price tags
of these things are astronomical, and we are literally staring
down the barrel of really, well, I think we're going
over an economic cliff on this unless we at least
bring nuclear into the picture.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Which is going to be expensive but can be reliable.
So I mean, there are ways to fix this, but
we have to course correct and some people are going
to have to take going to have to swallow their pride.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I'm a huge fan of nuclear is an option, and
I think some of the stuff that's happening with small
nuclear modular reactors is going to be very, very important
going forward. But we have to get over the public
perception of nuclear as being inherently dangerous and inherently wrong
or bad, because the upside for nuclear is so much

(44:50):
higher than the potential downside. It just is. And when
you look at France, they're powering eighty percent of their
country with nuclear power and they have been for like
forty years. It's it's happening all over the country. Maybe
it's not right for right on top of the San
Andreas Fault. Maybe there are places we shouldn't be building it.
But just like wind and solar, there are places where
they will not work, you know. I mean, you could

(45:12):
put solar on your roof in Ohio, but you're only
going to get three months of summer out of it.
You're not going to get anything in the winter. So
we have to be smarter about this stuff. I want
to ask you about something else before we run out
of time, and that is the Trump administration has hit
the ground running, I mean, not taking a breath, not
missing a beat, and they're aggressively promoting oil production on

(45:32):
federal lands. They're aggressively promoting energy production. I think strategically,
this is the smartest thing they can do. But how
does that come in conflict conflict with Colorado's massive regulatory
scheme that we have here for oil and gas.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
So that's a great question, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
And one of the things that I've actually posted this
question to a regulatory attorney who's a friend of ours,
and we've worked with them because there are.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
A couple of ways, and I'm wondering what.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
The impact could be because most of Colorado's production is
on private is on private land. But are there Colorado's
draconian oil and gas you know regulations, which by the way,
they don't do for wind and solar, But are those
are those regulations?

Speaker 6 (46:25):
Do they come in conflict.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
With the executive order that declared a national energy emergency?

Speaker 6 (46:31):
And so if that's the case, I mean, I think
there'll be a lawsuit on that. The other one that
I was kind of wondering about.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
With Colorado is does the state of emergency?

Speaker 6 (46:42):
Does that mean that we can delay.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
The shutdown of Comanche down in Pueblo, Because if you're
declared a state of emergency, meaning we have to we
can't afford to shut download reliable power, maybe Comanche sort
of gets a stay of execution or there has to

(47:09):
be something. It could be that if you shut down COMANCHI,
you have to replace it with another baseload source, and
that baseload source could be nuclear, but you have to
do baseload for baseload.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
So I'm wondering that there's probably going to.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Be lawsuits there, but Colorado will clearly be in conflict.
I think, of course, I'm not an attorney, but I've
posted this question to some and they've been hum Let
me see that could be a thing on their oil
and gas regulations and then on the shutdown of coal
fire power plants.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
So let me ask you this. We were talking before
the interview started on the air, and how much is
oil and gas production down in Colorado?

Speaker 6 (47:51):
Yeah, another great question, so in.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
If I think I have this right, hopefully this was
from Liberty Energy, and you know Chris Wright, who is
soon to be the new Get Energy Secretary Head of
DOE Ryan Zorn, was on my podcast, which by the way,
doesn't conflict with mandies, where you can get us anytime
we're on YouTube.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
It's called power gam So make sure you're always tuned
in a Mandy and then you can go listen to me.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Anyway, if I had it, it's down like thirty percent
relative to the rest of the United States. But in
real terms, it's that production in Colorado is down eight percent,
and that could be like if you were if they
were allowed to produce at the level at a level

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that would have gotten them back up to a relative
to the rest of the United States something like eighteen
billion dollars in revenue, which is nothing to sneeze at
when you're in a state that's facing a billion dollar
budget shortfall.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
So what you're telling me is that they had often
nose despite their own face, and then they didn't do
anything about their own spending to make up for the
fact that they were driving businesses out of the state
that would have padded the coffers to make it so
they don't have to have a shrinking budget. So they
did it to themselves. Amy, that's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Yeah, I think you nailed it.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Amy Oliver Cook. You can watch her show Power Gabs
see what they did there, Power grap Power Gab on
the Independence Institute's channel. You can just find that on YouTube. Amy.
I appreciate you making time today. This was a great column,
and I wanted to make sure that Independence got a
victory lap because it's always super frustrating when you guys
put out a paper or Common Sense Institute puts out

(49:44):
a paper and the politicians all go nah, and you're like, okay,
show us your numbers, and they're like, mumble, mumble, walk away.
I mean, it's you know, it's absurd. So I appreciate you, guys,
and thank you for taking this on so the rest
of us don't have to watch PUC meetings in the process.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Thanks Mandy, appreciate it all right.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
That is Amy Oliver Cook from the Independence Institute. Check
her out at Complete Colorado dot com. Oh this is adorable,
you guys, one of our texters says on the text line,
isn't Chris right going to have a conflict of interest? Yeah?
The assistant chief of staff for the USDA I saw

(50:27):
today is coming directly from the seed oil lobbying group so,
I mean, you guys have to understand these high level positions.
I hate this, by the way, about Washington, DC, especially
in like the FDA, the USDA, all of these organizations
that are supposed to monitor and you know, act as

(50:48):
government watchdogs on these organizations. They're all leaving government going
working for a drug company, or leaving government going to
working for Big food leaving and then and then all
they do that's a little while, but then big farm
and needs them back of the FDAs. Oh, I'll go
back to the FDA. I mean, it's the merry go round.
The incestuousness of the entire situation is just gross, so gross.

(51:16):
So I guess in this situation, isn't Chris Wright gonna
have a conflict of interest? Yes, but currently I like
his conflict of interest, so we'll just roll with it.
I just you know. Mandy power Gap has also pointed
out what no other media outlet except for the Independence
Institute is reporting this, and they aren't really a media outlet.

(51:37):
Investors in oil companies are not interested in drilling more.
They don't want to incur the debt it required to
invest in more drilling infrastructure. Here's the problems I see
it with oil and gas development. And I've had not
a ton of conversations, but a decent number of conversations
who work in that industry, the established businesses.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
And.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Please don't hear this as a critic if you work
for one of the big companies, But they have worked
with the government to create regulatory structures that are so
oppressive that it is impossible to compete. They've raised the
barrier of entry so high that small oil companies that
would provide natural competition can't function. And one of the

(52:19):
things that the Trump administration under Chris Right is hopefully
going to do is to streamline those processes and make
it easier for other companies to get involved in oil
and gas. So and therefore, whenever you and jet competition
into the story, although the oil and gas market is
distorted by OPEC's artificial floor, it's just all kinds of stuff.

(52:41):
You're not wrong, Texter, is what I'm getting at long
way to say you're not wrong. But hopefully the unwinding
of some of the regulatory structure will help with that
very issue. When we get back, well, let's talk for
a minute on democrats and immigration, because the city of Denver,
the state of Colorado. There's some messaging issues coming out

(53:04):
of the left and their messaging issues they created for themselves,
So we'll do that next. Keep it right here on
Kowa Bob to talk about. Although we did get this,
I'll let this texter or have the final word. Manday.
I work in Colorado oil and gas. I have since

(53:26):
twenty thirteen. I've been on a few frack sites and
all I can say, without a doubt, hands down, Liberty
is the absolute best fracking company that I've ever worked with.
And their employees always seem really professional and friendly, which
indicates they're treated well and paid pretty well also, So
that is going to be our new Secretary of Energy.
There doesn't seem to be any sort of speed bumps

(53:48):
for Chris Wright to get confirmed. So that's going on there,
you guys. I got an email today. I'm going to
get into this immigration stuff in just a second, but
I got an email this morning from one of my
listeners in Fort Myers from long, long ago, and I
just want to share it with you, and this is

(54:09):
one of the reasons I love what I do so much. Hey, Mandy,
do you remember Mark and Pat Andrews, Santabel Florida was
our home. A few years ago when you were in
Fort Myers, we asked you to mc an event in
our home introducing Marco Rubio to Southwest Florida. You and
your husband came, and you made a delightful evening of it.
Congressman Gary Lee was there and Phyllis Slapley, who endorsed Rubio.

(54:32):
Last night, as I watched Rubio being sworn in as
Secretary of the State, I thought back to that event, where,
in my mind, he got a huge boost to his campaign,
not only from the big bundle of checks we collected,
but more importantly from the report you gave the next
day for several hours to your Southwest Florida audience. My
recollection was that you were quite impressed with him and

(54:54):
communicated that aggressively. Now, all these years later, I'm now
eighty six, I remember that time well. Pat told the
story of your being in our home for that occasion
many times in her years of political activism. She left
us in twenty twenty three, but we thank you for
such a fine memory and celebrate it on the occasion
of Rubio's recent accomplishment. Hope you're happy and continuing to

(55:17):
do what you do so well. And this is a
guy that I knew in for Myers. And yeah, I'm
not taking credit for Marco Rubio's success, but I'll take
credit for part of it because I helped launch his
career because I could not bear the thought of having
Charlie crist in that role. Oh what a horrible role. Yeah. Anyway,

(55:41):
so we all know that Colorado, Aurora, Denver we are
in the center of the immigration conversation, and we were
put there in part because of two things. Number One,
Daniel Durinsky tried to sell the alarm on Venezuelan gangs

(56:04):
and no one would listen. So in order to get
help for her constituents, she went public, and boy, it
was the shot heard around the States that Venezuelan gangs
had taken over apartment complexes in Aurora. That's straight number one.
And then you have Denver Mayor Mike Johnston going on

(56:24):
record saying that he wouldn't have to do anything for
the Feds, but there'd be fifty thousand Highland moms at
the border waiting to keep the Feds out of Denver,
And when asked a follow up question, he was like, yeah,
I'm a good to jail a good to jail. Well, boy,
that was a bit of bravado. That didn't go well
for him. Now we are squarely in the spotlight of

(56:51):
the immigration issue. In a January twenty first memo, Deputy
Attorney General Emil Bove ordered federal prosecutors to investigate state
and local officials who they believe are refusing to comply
with the Trump administration's federal immigration enforcement efforts. The memo
also said federal laws prohibit state and local actors from quote, resisting, obstructing,

(57:17):
and otherwise failing to comply with lawful immigration related commands
and requests, and directs federal litigating offices to investigate incidents
involving any such misconduct for potential prosecution. Now, specifically, we
are talking about people who actively work against immigration and

(57:41):
customs enforcement. Now, you could look for some wiggle room
here in whether or not Colorado's refusal to contact immigration
and customs enforcement falls under that same you know, umbrella.
I don't know. We'll see exactly what the Feds aside.
But a bigger issue is that there's a lot of

(58:03):
federal money that could be blocked if Denver or Colorado
do not repeal their sanctuary state laws that prevent law
enforcement from being able to coordinate with ICE. Now, the
Democrats in Colorado will tell you that they already do
that for violent crime. So if someone gets murdered, we're

(58:24):
gonna call ICE. But if someone just boosts a bunch
of cars, maybe just robs the liquor store, we're gonna
wait till they murder someone before we call ICE. I
mean that does that sound good to you, because it
doesn't sound good to me. I do believe that when
the perception exists that the laws are not enforced, it

(58:47):
gets a lot easier for criminals to be emboldened to
do even worse stuff. So we've kind of we've one
hundred percent done this to ourselves, I mean no doubt
about that. And to muddy the waters even further. Three
Republican members of Colorado's congressional delegation are asking Governor Jerry

(59:09):
Poulis to put his rhetoric with his actions when it
comes to state cooperation with ICE. In a letter from
Gabe Evans, Lauren Bobert, and Jeff Crank, they asked they
want clarification of remarks the Democrat made during his January
ninth State of the state address when he sounded a
conciliatory note toward the incoming Trump administration on immigration enforcement,

(59:33):
despite the governor's long standing support for policies. The Republicans said,
throw up roadblocks to such efforts. Here we are. Everybody
here we are, and like I said, we've done it
to ourselves, so we don't have anyone to blame at all.

(59:55):
We also have a story, although it has been I
don't I think it's been pulled down now. I want
to see if I can find it again. Maybe I
just put the link wrong. The link or the story
was that Denver Superintendent Alex Morrero was actively urging people
to not give their information to school directories because those

(01:00:19):
are subject to public record searches. And he's also been
quite mouthy about not allowing ice on schools school grounds.
So he's posturing unnecessarily. And I don't know, maybe he's
used to dealing with the Republicans old, but if you're

(01:00:41):
going to posture at Donald Trump, he's going to posture back.
And right now he's got a much bigger stick than
Denver Public Schools Superintendent Alex Morrero. And by the way,
I don't think they're looking to run into schools and
arrest bunch of kids. I have not seen that. Maybe

(01:01:02):
right now I just see them arresting people who are
committing crimes after breaking to the country. We'll talk about
this and so much more because I've got oh gosh,
the immigration thing is going to be huge, huge, very huge.
But we're just getting started, folks. We'll be right back
after this. Okay, these are very fancy. We have great restaurants,

(01:01:34):
but a James Beard Award is a big deal in
the chef world. Okay, not everybody gets one. As a
matter of fact, I don't even think they have participation
trophies of the James Beard Awards, so they're gonna have
an annual ceremony. But if you want to see the
list of the people who are up for a James
Beard Award, it is right there. I'm pretty excited about

(01:01:57):
this because there is this little pastry shop in Parker
that has been a poulette bake shop in Parker and
it's in the same plaza as one of my favorite restaurants.
And this restaurant is called Wolfeach It's so good, so
so good. I love it. It's tiny, So I'm hoping

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that there will be more people who maybe are leaving
Denver because of crazy minimum wage and how challenging the
environment is there, and maybe come on down to Douglas County.
We're open. We're open for business. Although I've heard I've
heard this from multiple business owners that the permitting process

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in Douglas County is also a nightmare. That is unacceptable.
There should be zero reason that the department that anyone
who wants to start a business relies upon to get
that business open in a timely fashion should ever have
a backlog, should ever require people to pay hardcast on

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an unopened business for months and months and months at
a time. Shut up, Ralph, Is that true? Ralph just
texted me and said Trump just signed an executive order
releasing the JFK and MLK files. What get out? Get out? Wow?
That is okay. Just give me area fifty one. Give it.

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You may give me area fifty one. I just wore
new by the way, somebody asked you James Beard was.
He was a renowned American chef. If you were a
PBS watcher in the seventies, I mean, James Beard was

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all over the TV in my on my PBS station.
I don't know about yours, but well known. I don't
know where they named it after him, though, I mean sure,
I mean why not have the Julia Child. I don't
know why why they name Oh we had a foundation
and that's why. Okay. So here's according to Wikipedia Texter.
After Beard's death in nineteen eighty five, Julia Child wanted

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to preserve his home in New York City as a
gathering place that had been during his life. A former
student and the founder of the Institute of Culinary Education,
spearheaded efforts to purchase the house and create the James
Beard found Nation, and then they established scholarships in his name,
and then they created the James Beard Awards to celebrate

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fine cuisine around the nation. So there you go. That's
the thing. I didn't know that about James Beeard. I
knew who James Beard was because again, we had PBS
when I was a kid, watched a lot of him
and Bob Ross when I was a kid a lot. Mandy,
can you reply to me where did you find the
info about how many pardons Joe Biden signed before he

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left office? Thanks? That was in a Newsweek article. So
used the Google texter and go Joe Biden Pardons Newsweek
and see what pops up. So there you go, There
you go. So but this is exciting any restaurant that's nominated,
it's a big deal for the chef. It's basically, you're
being recognized by people who do what you do. And

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in my mind, not that I don't appreciate all of
you crazy kids out there listening to this show. It
is very special to me when I get an award
from my own industry. Like when I got a Grazie
Award for Women in Media, that was very very special
because it's judged by people in this industry. When I
got Woman of the Year, that's judged by people in

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this industry, So it's you know, it means something. And
the James Beard Awards are a very very big deal.
I don't know any chef that's ever won one that
is not exceedingly proud to have that honor behind his
or her name. So there you go. I do want
to point out a couple more things on the blog today. One,
there is a super cool concert coming up. The Colorado

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Symphony Orchestra is going to do a Broadway show. I
think I'm gonna go to this. I'm gonna see if
I can get somebody from the symphony on to talk
about it, because I just love when the symphony gets
outside their box and does something different in order to
bring more people that maybe would not have been symphony
fans before to the symphony. So we'll talk about that.

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All that's on the blog when we get back. We're
talking Oscar nominees. I know, I know you're like, Mandy,
we don't care, but I thought it might be fun.
I'll go through and do what I did to myself
this morning. It went like this. I went through the nominees.
I was like, oh, lear's the nominees. Never seen it?
Never seen it, never seen it, never seen it. I
had seen a couple, I just hadn't seen a whole bunch.

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So we'll play that game. How many of these have
we seen, Mandy Connell Show listeners, I'm guessing it'll probably
be about the same that I saw. We'll do that
and coming up a little bit later, Representative Ryan Gonzalez
is joining us, trying to get our eggs back down
to some kind of reasonable price. We'll do all of

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that in the next hour. Keep it on KOA. I'm
your host, Mandy Connell here for one more hour and
tomorrow from beautiful San Juan, Puerto Rico, thanks to our
friends at American Financing, a Colorado based company, but Dami

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and the owner originally from Puerto Rico, and they're coming
down here. They're doing some amazing things. If you've ever
wanted to learn how to kite surf, which not gonna lie.
They offer to let me try and learn how to
kite surf, and I'm like, no, I gotta work, I
gotta do show prep. I can't be out there trying
to kill myself kite surfing. It looks kind of fun
if you're into that kind of thing, I'll just put

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it out like that. I am way past the point
in my life where I would be like if I
was twenty five, if I was zach'sage, Zach producer in
for a Rod right now. If I were zach'sage, I
would one hundred percent go out and try that. You
would try it? When you, Zach? Are you? Are you
an activities person?

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
Absolutely, especially if I'm there. You know it's like, when
else am I going to be kite surfing? Why not
check it off the wind?

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Yes? Yes, when in row. That's why I have successfully
ordered and eaten for the last two nights, a whole
snapper fish that they deep fry and then you just
eat it off. Oh my god, it's so good. You
can't get in Colorado. I don't know if you can.
I don't know where. It's so good. See when in
Puerto Rico. I'm eating seafood as often as I can.

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So there you go. Yeah, exactly, I mean as one does.
So I looked at the Oscar list this morning, and
once again, I've done it again. I have successfully not
seen a vast majority of the movies on this list. Now.
The good news is, though with streaming, I can watch
a lot of these movies. The only one I'm not

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going to see, like Hard Pass, is The Substance. Now, Zach,
do you go to movies?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I do. I do.

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
I love going to the movies my girlfriend's and big fans,
so that's a common date night for us.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Oh, perfect, excellent, you've seen. We're gonna start with best Picture,
and I bet you that there's a lot more people
in the listening audience who are like me or like Nope,
haven't seen yet. I'm gonna give you best Picture. Here,
the here the nominees first of all, there's like a
billion nominees. I guess they went up to ten. Now
wait one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine, ten. Yeah,

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so they have ten now, so kind of everybody does
get a trophy in the form of a nomination. Anora
is one of the nominees. Never heard of it? Have
you seen it? Zach?

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
I have one of my favorites of the year. Would
highly recommend it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Well, what is the story of Anora?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Exotic dancer? I think it's in the.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
Miami area and a Russian trust fund kid have a
have a rapid romance and quickly it spirals out of
control as some some crime figures get involved.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
I thought it was a real actually sound reader. Yeah,
that sounds good. Okay, so I'll watch that. The Brutalist.
I know this is a period piece because I keep
seeing period piece The Brutalist anything, Zach anything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
I haven't seen that one. It's on the list.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Though, Okay, good, a complete unknown. I absolutely want to
see this. This is the story of Bob Dylan and
from everything I've heard from Bob Dylan fanatic friends that
I have, and yes, I have friends who are fanatic
fans of Bob Dylan. They are all wildly praising Timothy
Schallomy for his performance as Bob Dylan, So that is

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a complete unknown. Conclave is one that I tried to
watch on the plane on the way here, but my
WiFi wouldn't work well enough to stream it, so I
was super annoyed by that. And then Dune Part two?
Did you see? What do you think of the Dune movies, Zach?
I'm sure you've seen both those, right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:10:52):
I think they're good. I think they're really well made blockbusters.
But I think you know some of the hype about them,
as you know, the best things since Sliced Bread, feels
a little over the top to me. But I think
they're great movies.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
You know what I don't understand anytime you set a
movie in kind of a scorched earth setting, everybody reaves
about it. Like when I went to see Mad Max
Fury Road, you know, the first remake of the Mad
Max movies with Charlie's Throne and whoever. We're like an
hour into that movie and I looked at Chuck and
I go, is this just a giant car chase through

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the desert anyway? Oh? Yeah? And that was all it was.
And yet everybody was like, it was so amazing. I
don't what is it about a dusty scene that makes
everyone think the movie's automatically fantastic.

Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
You get those nice oranges and blues, I think you're
onto something there. I think it's the that color palette's
really esthetically pleasing to us.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Maybe I have no idea, no clue. I liked the movies.
I thought they were. It's like they were good, they
were perfectly fine. But Best Picture Noope. Anyway, we move
on to Amelia Perez. This is a next movie which
has set all kinds of records for getting thirteen nominations
as a non English speaking film. I've heard nothing but
great things about this movie, and I plan on watching it.

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Did you see I'm Still Here, Zach, I'm still here?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
No, that one. I'm kind of in the dark about.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Honestly, no clue me either. Nickel Boys. Did you see
Nickel Boys?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
That falls in the I'm Still here category for me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
There you go? Okay. And The Substance this is a
movie where Demi Moore actually just got her first Academy
Award nomination for her performance in the Substance. And the
crux of this movie is that Demi Moore is an
aging star and she has the ability to basically get
a shot that makes her young and beautiful again. And

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it's supposed to be an indictment on Hollywood on artificial
beauty standards and the pressure on women to remain forever young.
But it's also incredibly gory, Like the last twenty minutes
are supposed to be so disgusting that I want to
see the movie. We just see the performances, but even
my best friend is like, no, do not watch this.
You will absolutely hurl your guts up. It's it's really gory.

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So they ruined that for me. A little bit disappointed
in that. Did you see that one, Zach I did?

Speaker 7 (01:13:13):
It's it's definitely a gruesome one. I think your friend
described it accurately. It's a great, great movie. But if
people are squeamish about body horror, they should not go
near that one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah. Now, I'd never heard the phrase body horror, but
basically that's just like super Gore. I mean, it's just
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Stuff too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
It's it's it no, no, nope, nope, nope. I mean,
don't get me wrong. If you're a contortionist, I admire you,
but at the same time, when you get all bendy
and do weird things, I'm just like, that makes my
back hurt and I don't want to watch this anymore.
It makes me wildly uncomfortable when contortionists come out at
starts to so lay, I'm just like, God, I'm going
to get a peer anyway. And then we have Wicked,

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which everyone says, it's a beautiful film, way too long,
but a beautiful film. And so there we are. Those
are our Best Picture nominees. I have seen, let me
check very quickly, one one of those movies. One that's
that's about my average. How many of you seen altogether?

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There's Zach.

Speaker 7 (01:14:16):
I think about three, which is really not much better
at all. I really want to see that Bob Dylan
one though. I'm dying to go out and see that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I do too, I've heard nothing the good things about that.
I'm not a huge Bob Dylan fan. I mean, I'm not,
you know, crazy about his music because his voice is
so terrible to me. But as a songwriter, he is
truly in a category by himself. And when you realize
how many of his songs have been recorded by other people,
it's pretty astounding. So there you go. Those are our

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Best Actor nominations. The big shockers were Demi Moore being nominated. Finally,
there is also, of course, in the Best Actress in
a Leading Role category, a man, a trans woman has
now been there because nobody plays a woman quite like
a man. So we'll see how that goes in Hollywood.

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I'm sure they'll love it when he wins. And we're
gonna do a quick time out when we come back.
I don't know. I don't know we're gonna do next.
I've got a bunch of stuff and not much time
to do it because we're gonna talk eggs after the
bottom of the hour. Oh, I know what we're gonna do.
I know what we're gonna do. I want to talk
about the Trump executive memo on DEI and the level

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of growth that it shows between the first Trump administration
and today. We're gonna do that after this, keep it
on Kawa and the speed with which Donald Trump is
doing things is far faster than even I thought. But ultimately,

(01:15:54):
and we just talked to Amy Oliver Cook about this
in the last hour, and maybe this might have been
off the air. This shear and our chatting before the
interview started, but she pointed out something that is extremely accurate,
and that is the first Trump administration, it was all
learning curve right, and we had a bunch of people
coming from outside government. We didn't necessarily have firm policy

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positions because nobody thought he would win. I mean we
were told right until you know, the day he won,
that there was no way he was gonna wait, it
was Hillary Clinton in a landslide. It wasn't even gonna
be close. Why is the even why are we even
having the election? He's not gonna win. But this time
he was ready to win. He's had four years to

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work on this stuff, and unlike these sort of surface
level executive orders, listen to this. I mean, this is
this is a whole new Trump administration. In his executive
order about diversity, equity and inclusion. This is from the Telegraph,
by the way. In the UK, the Office of Personnel
Management directed agencies to place DEEI office staffers on paid leave,

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take down all public DEI focused web pages, and cancel
any DEI related training by five pm on Wednesday. The
memo also encouraged employees at federal agencies to inform on
those attempting to disguise DEI programs. Federal department and agency

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bosses are required to quote ask employees if they know
of any efforts to disguise these DEI programs by using
coded or imprecise language. The memo was issued on Tuesday.
It included a template email for bosses to send to
employees which asked them to report to OPM if they

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are aware of a change in any contract description or
personnel position description since November fifth of twenty twenty four
to obscure the connection between the contract and DEIA or
similar ideologies. This goes well beyond banning diversity equity inclusion

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in his administration. And you guys, before you think well,
why would people in the DEI programs wrap themselves? No, no,
those aren't the people that are going to do it.
You have to understand a lot of people have been
extremely frustrated by these initiatives, especially when they perceive that
someone undeserving or incapable of doing the job is elevated

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before they are. You only need one crank in each office,
and by crank, I mean someone who thinks this is stupid.
They may think it's stupid because it's stupid, not because
they were retaliated against or didn't get a promotion. This
is pretty I mean, this is pretty pretty deep thinking.
Vox commented on it and said every federal agency, the

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order went on, must send a recommendation to the Attorney
General of up to nine potential investigations of corporations, large
nonprofit it's foundations with assets of five hundred million or more,
higher education institutions with endowments of one billion or more,
or bar and medical associations. All this, the order said,

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was meant to encourage the private sector to end illegal
discrimination and preferences, including DEI. So this is well beyond
what any of any of the Democrats thought they'd be
able to get away with. I saw a story the
other day, and I don't remember where I saw it.
It was in a reputable news source. It wasn't just

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you know, like Bob's blog. But they did a survey
and and I don't know the reason I'm putting a
cavey out here. I don't know if this was in
the last uh Trump administration or this Trump administration. I
tried to find it this morning and I couldn't find it.
So I will find it. Like forty two percent of

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government employees are planning to work against the Trumpet stration's goals.
You guys, we have an opportunity to shrink the size
the government just tremendously just by getting those people out.
It's a game changer, a real game changer when we
get back. Could it be game changing to allow Colorados

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to buy eggs that were not from a cage free
egg farm. That's what one member of the Colorado House
is trying to do. We'll talk to Representative Ryan Gonzalez
after this about that. Keep it on KOA. Yeah, it's

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like an area now perfect, excellent, there we go. That
was a lot. But I'm in Puerto Rico and Representative
Ryan Gonzalez is in Denver because the legislature's in session
and he is trying to do something to restore our
most affordable source of protein in the grocery store, and
that is eggs. First of all, Representative Gonzales, welcome to

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the show.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Thank you so much for having me, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
It's good to be here with you and happy to
talk about what we're working on here for the people
at Calroo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
So tell me about this. Obviously, we've had significant egg shortages.
There was like a month where I would go to
the grocery store a couple times a week and there
would literally be nothing on the grocery store shelves. I
know we have bird flu, but it seems like it's
way worse here. In my informal polling across Facebook, where
I have friends all over the country, none of them

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are seeing the prices that we saw here. None of
them are seeing the ongoing shortages that we've seen here.
So what are you trying to do with this bill?

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Yeah, so thank you for your question.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
And this basically is due impart because of a twenty
twenty law that they passed HB twenty thirteen forty three,
which was sponsored by former Senator Kerry Donovan, mandating cage
free eggs.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Now, this law has been phased in. It took full
effect at the beginning of this year. And so basically
what we're seeing is an increase in.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Prices of eggs that is also exacerbating the supply chain
where we're not having enough of the eggs that we need,
which also add a contribute to the high prices of eggs.
And it also limits basically that we can't have eggs that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Are not cag free. Coming to Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
So when you have excess demand, like you just said,
people rely on those source of protein eggs.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Big thing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Families, especially lo income families who are hurting, are feeling
the pinch at the grocery store because of some of
this policy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
That has been implemented. So my bill would do away
with them.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
So we basically get back to more of a free
market perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
And there's consumer choice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
And see, I'm glad you said free market because I
buy I buy pasta raise eggs like I can fit
that in my budget, and eggs make up such a
huge portion of my diet that I buy the stupid, expensive,
fancy pasta raised eggs. But that's my choice. I go
to the grocery store and I'm sure you've had this.
You look like a young guy. I don't know if
you have a family. If you go to the grocery
store now and you get two little dinky bags and

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it's one hundred bucks, I always think of, like, how
are young families dealing with that kind of stuff? So
this is the first in a step. You know, you're
in committee, right, So what committee is going to hear this?

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
So it got assigned to the Agriculture Committee.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
And the hearing furthest bill will be Monday at one
point thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Now, what kind of response have you gotten, either from
your colleagues or from across the aisle. Are you hopeful
that this is going to pass or is it going
to be dead in the water because it's got to
have Democrat support.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Yeah, so I'm hopeful that we can get at least
some Democrat support. Some of the people who sit on
the Agriculture Committee, some of them who are Democrats live
in competitive districts, so I think they're more inclined to
listen to raison as far as hearing the concerns of
people of Colorado, especially low.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Income people who are hurting from the policy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Again, going back to the consumer choice of if they
want k tree or not. You used to let the
because of the consumers decide. And you know, we want
to make it all about affordability, right. You know, Jared
Poulus in the State of the State has said he
wants to make Colorade and more affordable and this is
the way that we can do so by leviating some
of the cost burdens that we have imposed in Coloraden's

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because they need relief, whether it's fees, whether it's you know,
driving down the prices of goods like eggs. This is
something that all Colorants have cared about, and so I
have heard. I've gotten a lot of support from my
Republican caucus as well as the Republican senators.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
There are some Democrats who have reached out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
To me who will have expressed interest in listening to
the arguments for it. Obviously they're not committing to one
way or the other, but I can tell you I
have spoken to some stakeholders, one of them being the
egg producers. Now, the egg producers have pushed back basically
by saying that it's the bird flu, the burdelues what's
contributed to the high prices eggs, and that the markets

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were basically training in that direction anyway, towards K free.
But to that, if the market was training towards K free,
why do you need a law to make it so?

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Let the markets do it on their own.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Right now, Compared to bird flu, if you look at
across the country right because it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Just end when Cowork, Colorado wins, other.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
States are dealing with the bird flue, their prices are
not as high. If you look at those states that
have K three versus non policies implemented, you will see
that these states have lower prices of eggs in the
states that do not have K three laws. The USDA
also came out with the report last month, saying that
while the bird flu did a tribute in increasing prices

(01:25:43):
of eggs, the khtree laws disproportionately impacted states who had
such laws that were a factor in driving the prices up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
For that as well well, I mean it prevents us
from being able to go to a different egg producer
and different state that didn't have a bird flu outbreak.
I mean, these outbreaks are happening all over the country,
but we've limited the number of people that we can
even try and buy eggs from. So this is one
of those things that and don't get me wrong, I
know it's well intentioned. I'm probably one of the few

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talk show hosts in this country that have actually been
to an egg farm, so I know exactly what goes
on there. And it's gross. I mean it's it's chickens
are just you know, kind of gross. So I understand this,
But are the animal rights activists who got this going
in the first place. Have they indicated that they are

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going to resist the change.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
So I have heard the ASPCA is remaining neutral. Now
I have heard the Humane Society did in fact hire
a lobbyist to lobby against this bill. Let it's known
about animal welfare, Mandy, it's about chicken welfare. You know,
we're prioritizing chicken welfare over the welfare of our own
citizens and residents of Colorado, people who are low income children,

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you know, our restaurant owners, schools, anything.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
That's made with eggs. We're prioritizing the welfare of chickens over.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
That of our own people, and that has negative implementations.
And like what you just said, I understand the humanitarian
part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Or we shouldn't be prioritizing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Chicken welfare over the needs of our people, many of
who are struggling to get by.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Is this part of a group of bills that Republicans
are trying to get through to take away some of
the taxes and the fees that have been levied on
us over the years that are just like their death
by a thousand cuts because none of them are that big.
When you just say, oh, we're going to make you
pay a little bit more for eggs, or oh, we're
going to make you pay a bag fee when you
get a bag. Is this part of that group of

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bills that Republicans are bringing forward.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Yeah, absolutely, So.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
You know, I won't speak for my entire caucus, but
what I can say is we are very focused on
making sure that we prioritize affordability, we protect taber, we
make sure we try to repeal some of these fees.
We know, when you're minority, we understand that there's only
so much we can pass. But with the policies we're
proposing with some of these bills, I feel our sensible, realistic, practical, achievable.

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We're not asking for much. We're asking to you know,
think of the little guy, the small business people, the
mom and pop shops, the low income people who are
hurting and getting penny pinched, you know, day and day
out from these fees. You know, the wealthy people, they
don't care about ten cents a back, they don't care
about a twenty to nine cent delivery fee. They don't
care about the prices of eggs because they can afford it.

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It's the people who are struggling to get by the
middle class, the low income people, who are choosing between
filling up their gas tanks or putting fruit on the table,
and they feel that the eggs of all things is
just something that shouldn't be a discussion for, you know,
providing relief for it's something that we should act on.
And we know what we're proposing should get some Democrat

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support to get it passed.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
We're not asking for We're asking to provide immediate relief.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
For some of our well all of our residents across
Colorado when it comes to energy, and it comes to food,
and it comes to housing, and it comes to fees.
This is stuff that the people want. You know, we
roame wasn't built in a day, and if we start
getting rid of some of these fees and regulations like
that K free thing, it could definitely get us more
towards a free market approach and provide overall affordability.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Slowly but surely we can get there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Have you heard that? Ed producers in Colorado who've already
gone cage free, You're like, look, we're not going back
because it did cost too much to go back to
what we were doing before.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
Yeah no, And that's an argument that they have.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
This isn't mandating that they go back to how they
were before that. If they want to stay to K free,
that's that's their discretion. That's their choice. I'm all about
free markets. If they want to make the decision to
be KG three or not, we should leave it up
to the producers. We shouldn't have government mandated for everybody,
especially the smaller, you know, scale egg producers who can

(01:30:02):
afford to basically have these implementations overnight. The regulations, the costs,
the resources, the time, the effort. You've seen some of
these places shut down because of.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
This law because they can comply with it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
They don't have the money, they don't have the resources,
and that basically just puts those people out of business.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
And we should be thinking about the little guy, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
And that also adds to the constraint and supply that
we have, and that's why we have a shortage of
eggs in part because they can't comply with this policy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Representative Ryan Gonzalez, I really appreciate your time today and
the fact that you're trying to make it more affordable
for people who are struggling to pay for their groceries.
We'll follow this bill and have you back on hopefully
it'll be successful. I know you do have an uphill battle,
simply the numbers are so not in your favor in
terms of the political divide legislature. But I'm going to

(01:30:56):
follow up and we'll touch back and see what happens
at the end of all, I appreciate your time today.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Well, hey, I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Thank you so much reaching out and happy to help
you and happy to talk about my bills and what
we can do to make Chlorido affordable.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
So absolutely all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Right, that's representative Ryan Gazalez. Thank you so much. And
you know, it's been a very busy show today and
I still didn't get to everything on the blog. I
love this story that I have a video of on
the blog today. And if you've not seen the story
of Bowie the uber dog in Colorado, do you just
turn something on or sorry, I just heard myself. Bowie

(01:31:36):
the uber dog in Colorado is famous.

Speaker 8 (01:31:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
He was just sarting, good morning America. This sky drives
uber in Denver, and he has this little gold retriever
who wears a bow tie with him. And it's just
if you need like a little break from the day,
you need a little something something. And I also found
a good video about the best things to do in
San Juan, Puerto Rico in twenty twenty five. Because tomorrow
is our last workday here, so between six pm tomorrow

(01:32:04):
evening and when we leave at like eleven thirty the
next morning, I got back in a lot of fun
because I've been working a lot this week and I've
been to the beach like twice for like five minutes,
and it's just I told my boss, I said, you know,
this has been a really great experience, but I want
to come here when I don't have to work because

(01:32:25):
when my show is because we're three hours ahead of Colorado,
so my show is from three to six, and it
takes a lot to get ready for the show. People
a lot. I love this text message. Hope it passes.
Wouldn't want him to get yoke all over his face.
This egg argument is fascinating. Everything they're reversing we knew

(01:32:46):
was going to happen, and I have people who are
really upset right, They're like, you know, they talk about
the amount of space that chickens have in regular production.
For me, you guys, I've actually been to a chicken farm.
I know exactly how this operates. But I also grew
up in a very rural area where my father when

(01:33:06):
I was like nine years old. First of all, he
took me to a fish stick factory. I've mentioned that before.
I have never eaten a fish stick since then ever,
because I know what's going on there. And he also
took me to a slaughterhouse when I was like ten
years old, where I saw the process of how a
live cow comes in one door and it goes out
aside of beef the other door, and I have seen

(01:33:29):
the whole process. My dad said, look, this is the
cycle of life. This is the cycle of food. You
need to understand this because people that don't understand it
often want to regulate it in such a way that
doesn't make any sense. So he was not wrong about that.
And somebody else said, pasture raised chickens are the same.
They're still raised in a cage. Yeah, but they do

(01:33:50):
get to walk around in grass and eat bugs. I
actually buy a brand of eggs that has video cameras
at their farms if you want to look at your
happy little chickens. I'm not even kidding. That's chuck laughing,
but I'm not kidding. They have that. It makes me
feel better that the chickens are out there. But I
also pay an exorbitant amount of money for eggs because

(01:34:10):
we eat so many eggs in the family that that
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna pay for the
ones where they have the bright yellow, beautiful yolks, and
you're just like that that that chicken eada mirigled. That's
what happened.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
I can't imagine what my budget would have been like
with all the eggs.

Speaker 8 (01:34:24):
Oh gosh, just me and the boys, no, because we
ate as many as we do, and that's a ton
of eggs with three boys.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
That is shuck. By the way, my houseband who has
been down here enjoying himself. Now, before we get into
this last part of the show, you have employed a strategy.
And I know you well enough that you are so
competitive that you have decided to employ the I'm not
going to answer any questions of the day, and I'm
going to let her get one wrong and I'm going

(01:34:52):
to win zero to minus one. That is exactly what
you've done.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
With That is not.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
My fault.

Speaker 8 (01:35:00):
You don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
You have yet to answer something.

Speaker 8 (01:35:04):
Well, no, that's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
I've answered I just no, I know you, I know
your strategy. My husband likes to win.

Speaker 8 (01:35:11):
Who made the rules to this?

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
He likes to win.

Speaker 7 (01:35:13):
I'm just saying, wait, wait, there's a backstory loophole.

Speaker 8 (01:35:17):
No, no, no, there's a backstory here. These were not the
rules when when you started this game twenty years.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
Ago, the weary rules.

Speaker 8 (01:35:25):
Yes, I know these are These are the rules that
are developed. And as you know, I just played by
the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
God, horse feathers, horse feathers. Horse Hockey's competitive Wait a minute,
wait sign for the most exciting segment on the radio
of its guide. Have the day, all right, Zach? What
is our dad joke of the Chuck rules? No, Chuck

(01:35:52):
does not rule, he's ham and egget it and let
me get what you're wrong? Yes, thank you so much to.

Speaker 8 (01:36:00):
This week.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
All right? What is our dad joke, Zach?

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Dad joke of the day? Where do pirates get their hooks?

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
I do not know?

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Second hand stores?

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Okay, that's pretty funny. That was a good one. I
like that. That was well done, Zach, well done. What
is our word of the day? Please, sir?

Speaker 7 (01:36:24):
Both of these are kind of themed for where you
guys are at right now. Word of the day is
wander lust.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Wanderlust is like when you have the desire to travel
and see the world.

Speaker 7 (01:36:36):
Almost word for word, wanderlust refers to a strong desire
to travel.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
That I I've had a wanderlust since I was nineteen
years old, and good. I keep trying. I keep trying
to feed it by taking by going places, but it
just gets worse the more places I go. According to
a recent survey, and by the way, these trivia questions
are so old, I don't know how recent recent is.
According to a recent survey, what percentage of American women
today call themselves feminist? I got it right.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
I don't know how old the study. I saw something
about seven percent or something.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
I don't know if that's correct.

Speaker 7 (01:37:14):
You want to take a shot at Zach, I'd go away.
I was thinking, like sixty percent.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Okay, so I should have given you guys the choices.
I'm sorry, sixty percent, which is actual said or eighty percent?
I'll roll at sixteen okay, sacks stick them with sixteen.

Speaker 8 (01:37:33):
I don't know, I if I can you want okay,
You're right, it is twenty percent view themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
People think it is no because they they're so crabby
all the time. Anyway, what is our what is our
jeopardy category that Chuck will not answer any questions for
and hope that I just get one wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:37:53):
Our jeopardy category today is also a dog breed I'll
say something, and it describes a word and also a
breed of dog. Okay, all right, also a dog breathe
you'll get the vibe off this first one here? Type
of nose that's short, broad and somewhat turned up.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Many Yes, what is it? What is pug?

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
That is correct?

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
If you guys can see her face my pen to
write down. Then I have one? Okay, here we go
swimming Olympia.

Speaker 8 (01:38:27):
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Swimming Olympian?

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
Mark? Maybe I think that was go ahead, Chuck, okay, yes,
that's correct.

Speaker 7 (01:38:38):
One one, Mark Spitz, all right, Manny Pacchio's occupation.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Mandy, what is a boxer?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
That is correct?

Speaker 7 (01:38:49):
The clothes size once meant for the heavier than average boy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
I think it would that is correct, dude.

Speaker 7 (01:39:01):
And then last one for you here nationality wise, it
would describe the wonderful Vitus bearing or the super orn
boots sun Chuck, was this German shepherd well?

Speaker 8 (01:39:18):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
No, no, I don't know. I have no idea. I'm
gonna sit on my wind.

Speaker 8 (01:39:24):
She sat on her wind. I went for it. Great Dane,
Great Dane is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
The answer there, the old Great Danes. That's why they
had such weird names.

Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
You know, we should not have any dog trivia that
doesn't have at least one. Sabernard got a sad All.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Right, kids, we're gonna wrap things up. I gotta let
my friend Nerve from ninety three to three do his
show next. I can't keep the music away from the people.

Speaker 8 (01:39:45):
So are we tied now?

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
This week?

Speaker 8 (01:39:47):
Thus farts Thursday?

Speaker 7 (01:39:49):
Umm?

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
You one? Two? Did I win the first one? I
don't remember. That's how competitive I am. That I forgot.
I know you want the last too, but I don't
remember what happened on Monday, to tell you the truth.
All Right, kids, we'll be back tomorrow for a final
show from Puerto Rico. We've got a woman coming on
the show, specifically to talk about Puerto Rican tourism. We're
going to talk up to Damian Maldonado, not about American financing,

(01:40:11):
but about his life story. Fascinating, fascinating success story and
just very interesting, all kinds of good stuff happened tomorrow
last day from Puerto Rico, but right now keep it
right here for the Kiawa Sports coming up next on
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