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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And joining us now the Daily Callers Mary Roope, who
has written a really great column in The Daily Caller.
It was out yesterday headline Trump struck a killing blow
to the heart of the Democrat deep state machine.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mary, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
First of all, Hi, Maddie, Thank you so much for
having me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So let's just what do we give my listeners who
have not read the column a little thumbnail sketch of
what's inside.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh, what we're discussing yesterday is the fact that Trump.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Is going after usaid And you know.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We've kind of seen this being splashed.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All over the news.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
If you watch any type of mainstream media from CNN
to ABC, they're all up.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
In arms freaking out about you.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Know, all of these.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Poor countries that are no longer going to be able
to receive the aid from the US.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And you know, what are we going to do for
our allies? How are we going to funnel all of
this millions of dollars to them?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
But what they're not telling their viewers is that hidden
beneath these payments that we make, you know, to pay
for rice and being to these third world countries, but
we're also paying for is millions of dollars in the
type of funding initiatives, including to produce THEEI musicals in Ireland,
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transgender operas in Colombia, and a transgender comic book in Peru.
I mean, the American people are struggling financially. We have
been for about five years now, ever.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Since the pandemic and Divide. Administration spent years sending millions.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Of our taxpayer dollars. It's not billions over to do.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
These anti American, anti culture funding initiatives. And Trump has
essentially said stop. So he's put Elon Musk in charge
of DOGE, and DOGE has gone into the USAID.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
They shut out access through all the administrators. They kind
of put everybody on.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Notice that hey, listen, we're going to go in We're
going to look at all the.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Line items, figure out where this spending is going.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
We're going to send it over to.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The president, and then presidents going to decide if we
are going to continue these.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Different type of operations, which I think is a really
great idea. But what is really funny to me at least,
and this whole situation is watching how badly the Democrats
are freaking out about this. I mean, you've got Chuck
Schumer standing on the stage just screaming and hollering about
how this is, you know, ant a democratic and no
one voted for Elon Musk and you know, just really waving.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
His arms in the air like no that Earth is
following type of situation.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
But what they're really upset about is the fact that
we're stopping these dates. I mean, one of the news
stories that came out today was that Politico received eight
million dollars from USAID. And if you remember, Politico was
one of the outlets that went and pushed the false.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Narrative that the Hunter Biden.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Laptop story was a Russian you know, hoax, essentially that
Russia paid for it. So when you're looking at the
line items on these things, it's ridiculous what they've required
the American people to pay for.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I think that that's.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
A great thing that the trumpetstration is doing, and it's
also preventing them from continuing to undermine American national security,
our sovereignty. They pay millions of dollars to teach a
little illegal immigrants how to cross the border.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And how to stay in our country, how to avoid ice.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I mean, we're talking about really harmful things, and not
to mention the fact millions and millions of dollars to
organizations that are connected to terrorist organizations, and the Bided
administration alone is responsible for sending more than one point
thirty billion dollars to groups that sponsored or committed terrorism.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You know, for me Mary watching this, the thing that
I find the most interesting is that Washington, DC is
in full meltdown mode. But the American people are like,
you got to be kidding you with some of these
expenditures that we've heard about, and what I think that
you know, there probably are some really good, worthwhile programs
in USAID because when this program was started, it was
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started with the idea that if we use our dollars
to encourage development and growth in these developing nations, then
we would have fewer problems worldwide, right because if a
country is prosperous and everyone's doing well, they're far less
likely to agitate and cause problems or pick a war
with somebody next to them. But the problem is is
that Congress didn't put any guardrails on what this stuff
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could be spent on. You know, and now we see
what you're talking about and what others have been talking about.
The crazy nature of some of the stuff that they
have spent money. I got to tell you, I'm pretty
sure that Politico also was very instrumental in pushing the
Christopher steal dossier as well. So the fact that they
got money from USAID is appalling, absolutely appalling to me.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And it would be really interesting to see what other.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Outlets are uncovered as receiving aids our money from USAID.
And the other thing is is that most Americans, the
reason why they're kind of sitting back and.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Going so what in this situation.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Is a lot of people have never even heard of USAID,
and if they had, they connected with what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The humanitarian side.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Of it, where we're sending over funding and helping.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Me is you know, developing nations in order for US
not to have to some troops over there.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
In case something kicks off. But an underlying thing that
is little discussed is the fact that some of.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
This USAID money is being connected to regime changes in
some of these countries. And so if we're talking about
nation building, if we're talking about sovereignty.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And all of those things, that the American people should
not be paying for.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Regime changes at all, period end of story, and so
that's not in the America's best interests. It's not in
the best interests of our national security.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
It increases the chance that we.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Are going to have illegal migration happening at our southern border,
because you're going to have displaced for residents from their own.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Country right trying to come into a country that's more stable.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I mean, we're talking about just in all stacets of American.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Life being affected by this AID, and you know, we're
really putting a stop to it.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And I think that that is such a great thing that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Trump is doing right now.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It's probably one of the most.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Important things that he's done so far.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
And if you think about.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It, he's only been in office January.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Twentieth, and he's already shaking up this you know, establishment
regime that has had control over our government for decades.
And the USAID is technically supposed to report the president.
It's under the governance of the Executive Ranch and its
reports the President of the National Security Council, and they
have been obstinate whenever our presidents have gone in and
tried to audit them or get any type of data.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Information from them, and also obstinate.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
To the Congress who is control of the national purse.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And so whenever you have congressional.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Officials going in trying to get answers from this, like
our senator.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Our Iowa Senator Jodie Earnst.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Who tried to get information on what kind.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Of money USAID was sending into Ukraine. She essentially was
told no, you can't receive anything impact, you know, And
then she did a little.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Book pushback and they let her and her team in,
but she wasn't allowed to write anything down.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
She wasn't she wasn't allowed to take notes, she wasn't
to take any documents out of the building. You had
to remember everything verbatim. And the things that I found
were really shocking in this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So you have to ask yourself at the end.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Of the day, what is this government agency? Who is
it accountable to?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's accountable to the President of the president.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's full authority to go in and audit this place
if it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Allowing that process to take.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Place, and they're actually the anti democratic.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Process and the government and the president.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Has authority to go in and do it exactly what
he did.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Mary, I have always shied away from using the term
deep state, because I think it's unnecessary, inflammatory, and you know,
it creates a certain a feeling of division for some people.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But my gosh, if that's not the deep state.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
While you were just talking about a bureaucracy that refuses
oversight from a sitting US senator, this is the deep state.
This is what we're talking about. This is what Trump
is trying to root out. And I, you know, whatever
good this organization has done, I'm sure the State Department
can continue in some manner, but I'm ready to see
this go. And I've been absolutely shocked by the speed
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with which Donald Trump has has has taken action in
this this election or this administration.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I think you and I are in agreement. I keep
calling this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know, Trump two point zero is a much different
Trump than Trump one point oh right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
He learned a.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Lot about the intractability of Washington d C in his
first administration. And I don't know if all this stuff
is going to stand constitutionally, everything that he's done, and
I'm certainly hoping that Congress is going to step up
and start codifying some of this stuff into law.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But that being said, this is a whole new ballgame.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I got to say, it's been fascinating to watch,
don't you think absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know, Trump two point oh is exactly how I tudcoris.
And the thing is is that they they.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Were wholly unprepared, yeah, to handle this new Trump administration,
which is great for the American people.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know, the first administration, they.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Swarmed him like bees on.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Honey and they were going to protest to hide that
they had created there, and they did a very good
job of pushing him out. We saw that in the
State Department, we saw that in the Pentagon.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
We saw that in all these different areas. And Trump
learned from his lesson.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
He came in guns a blazing into this administration.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
He has spent the last three weeks working like a
dog to make sure that he roots out all of
the problems. I think the biggest thing that we're saying.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I saw the government.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Buyouts and all these people self ejecting from the government.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And you know, we just heard last night.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
That they're doing the same exact thing with the CIA,
and you're offering them a buyout to be able to leave.
And I think this is really great for American people because,
you know, conservative media has done a really good job
at least over the last four years trying to root
out the problem and explain to the American people what
has been going on.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Behind the scenes, especially when we refer.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
To things like the deep state. But what they don't.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Understand is that the deep state is not necessarily just the.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Intelligent agencies that are working against the American people, are
working to spy on them and take their data and
use it against them, like.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
We saw with January sixth. What the deep state really is.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Is unelected bureaucrats like the ones that work at USAID,
and you know, they're using your money in order.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
To promote programs that are.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Completely antithetical to the way the American people feel about this,
especially when it comes to things like.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Gender ideology and the DEI initiative.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The things that I've seen, the lists that I've seen,
and I haven't confirmed all the lists that are flying
around the internet right now, and their significant lists flying
around the internet right now, but there does seem to
be an outsized number of gender ideology or gay issues
that USAID has been funding. Is that just because that's
where the Democrats drove the agency that was the priority
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of the Biden administration, or why does it seem that
so much of it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Has to do with gay rights. Because I got to.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Tell you, if you told me that the USAAID was
funding you know, schools, or it was funding hospitals or
water systems in places that don't have clean water.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think we would all agree.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, that's probably a good expenditure of money, even though
we don't need to be spending more money from the
US right now. But when you're talking about things that
seem to promote gender ideology or confusion, or even a
fair treatment of gay people, which I'm not opposed to,
But is that the role of the federal government where
we've got a one point eight trillion dollar deficit last year, And.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That is exactly the point. It is not the role of.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Federal government to change the minds of foreign countries on
the way that they approach these same topics, especially whenever
you consider the fact that they're extremely.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Unpopular with the you know, with more than half of the.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
American people, right, and so whenever you're looking at these
programs in places like Pakistan, in Afghanistan and in all
of these things, and you're you're like, okay, but they
need running water, they need a functional deacy or.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
A functioning governing system.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And you know when you talk about, well, why aren't
we building water.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Private supplies so these people could do it?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
You know, we send millions of dollars over there to
try and build bridges, to try and build infrastructure there.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But the same thing, that's like what we see in California.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
The money is mismanaged, that things never get built, and
if they get built, they break almost immediately. And so
all of the money that we spent hundreds of millions
of dollars on these different types of projects, they it's
just wasted.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's all wasted fund money. And most of the money
that is spent.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
By USAID, they say that about.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Ten to thirteen percent actually gets spent on those types
of projects, and the rest of it goes to administrative costs.
And we all know what that means. It means being
funneled into the money or into the pockets of people
who are controlling these projects.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
And that's why you.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
See oligarchs in Ukraine running away with suitcases full of
millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
That's why you see the president.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Of Ukraine running away with millions of dollars. A completely
corrupt system, and we have to put into it, and
that's what President Trump did.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I saw a video on X yesterday. I'm a young
woman and she is African. I don't though she still
lives in Africa, but she made the comment that I
thought was really interesting. She said, you know, it's interesting
for everyone in Africa who wants to talk about being
free of their colonial past, they're now all freaking out
because the money train is going to be cut off.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But then she went on to explain just what you
just said.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
A vast majority of the foreign aid that comes to
African nations is hoovered up by corrupt officials and it
never actually gets to the people that is supposed to serve.
The entire system is broken. So maybe if we break.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It and cut off the money, there will be some.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Way for these people to get some of the corruption
out of their system of government. Maybe their countries can flourish.
Mary Brook from The Daily Caller, I really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Your time today.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Great column, well done, and hopefully we'll talk again in
the future.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
All right, sons, great, thank you to all right, thank.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You, Mary, and to port a link on the blog
to that column that she wrote.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's very very good.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
The other part about USAID that I think is important
because somebody texted this. Actually there's a similar text now, Mandy.
In the seventies, the CIA youthed USAID is a front
to enter various countries and change the leadership through violent acts.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
A lot of people believe.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That the USAID budget is all just CIA black ops.
And if that's what it is, fine, put it under
the CIA's budget. Don't tell us it's roses and then
hand us crap, right, you.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Like, I understand that we have all kinds of tentacles
all around the world.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I'm just at the point now where I'm not sure
that that serves American interests.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
If we have CIA agents, you know, gathering intelligence on
people who are trying to do.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Us harm, I am all for that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But if we're trying to change the regime of Peru,
or we're trying to change the regime even of Venezuela,
which is an abject.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Disaster, that's not our job.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
What our job is is to protect the American borders
from the Venezuelan.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Gang members that are being rounded up right now in.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Aurora, Colorado. That's our job. The Venezuela have to sort
themselves out. The Venezuelans are going to have to rise
up and overthrow their government. That's their responsibility.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
But we cannot.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Continue to fund every scrappy nation that decides they need
our money, because right now we're funding both sides of
the war. In Mary's column, this is so appalling to me.
Let me find this right now. Let me scroll down.
One hundred and twenty two million dollars of taxpayer dollars.
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Those are and I just want to put this in context.
And when we say taxpayer dollars, what does that mean.
I want you to think about taxpayer dollars like this.
If you make an hourly wage, you gave up, even
if you work a salary, you gave up hours of
your life that you're never going to get back, away
from your family, your friends, doing things that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
You love to go to work.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You may even love your job, that's great, but you
gave up those hours of your life where you had
to go and you had to make money. And the
federal government just took part of it for the privilege
of being an American, and they sent one hundred and
twenty two million dollars which represent those hours of your
life that you're never going to get back through USAID
that were funneled into groups aligned with Islamic terror organizations
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in Gaza, Syria, and Afghanistan. So we are funding both
sides of these.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Wars, and I'm just over it. I'm over it. It
doesn't make sense. You know what I'd rather see.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'd rather see us take all of that money, reinvest
it in defending ourselves. Let's create a great missile defense system.
Let's let's tighten and harden our ports, so the reality
of getting a dirty bomb into the United States of
America gets a lot harder instead of spending one hundred
and twenty two million dollars to send it to people
who would blow us up at the first instance, Why
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don't we make America truly safer. No, we're never going
to be one hundred percent safe. There's no such thing
as one hundred percent safety unless we're all just confined
in our homes like in China. Right, you know, in
a free society, you're going to have things that go wrong.
But I would much rather spend this money in making
the United States more vibrant, easier for people who want
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to come here and do good and be productive to
immigrate to. I'm a big immigration fan, and our current
immigration system is so incredibly, incredibly broken that it's not
even funny. At the same time, we're giving ilegal immigrants,
you know, apartments and computers and cell phones.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Here in Denver. There are people who are already well.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Educated who want to come to the United States of
America and be productive members of our society right away.
They can't get in here because the immigration system is
so jacked up.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So we Chelsea.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Mandy, if you can think of a better way to
sell bombs and ammunition, I'd like to hear it, seriously,
the military industrial complex or sincerely rather now I got it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm not a fan of the military industrial complex. I'm
really not.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And all of that foreign aid that we send to
other countries gets recycled back into our defense contractors, who
then promise weapons systems that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Never get delivered or never work properly.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
The whole system is dysfunctional and broken, but it goes
well beyond the military industrial complex. As a matter of fact,
I would urge you text her Gobec can read Dwight
the Eisenhower's speech where that phrase military industrial complex came
from and then read about the scientific industrial complex. That
actually concerns me more than the military industrial complex, because
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that's why we have the nonsense around glow, global warming
and climate change. That's why we have the COVID response
that we have now because of the scientific military or
scientific industrial complex which has been wholly captured by uh
by government, and therefore we're going to get the answers
the government wants us to give. Oh, it's fascinating, Mandy.
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I sent this text to her my friend this morning.
Great minds think alike. I have never understood how it
makes any sense when the US is essentially funding both
sides of a war. Assune talked about that too. It
boils down to being beneficial to some people and organizations
from a monetary and power position, but it is insane
when you think of it from a logical perspective. That
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from Alexa, Yes, Alexa, Great minds do think alike. When
we get back, we have National Security Advisor for News
Nation to talk about yesterday's wild ass press conference with
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And Benjamin Yahoo. That's coming up next
And joining us now the Daily Callers Mary Roope, who
has written a really great column in The Daily Caller.
It was out yesterday headline Trump struck a killing blow
to the heart of the Democrat deep state machine.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mary, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
First of all, Hi, Maddie, Thank you so much for
having me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So let's just what do we give my listeners who
have not read the column a little thumbnail sketch of
what's inside.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh, what we're discussing yesterday is the fact that Trump.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Is going after usaid And you know.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We've kind of seen this being splashed.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All over the news.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
If you watch any type of mainstream media from CNN
to ABC, they're all up.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
In arms freaking out about you.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Know, all of these.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Poor countries that are no longer going to be able
to receive the aid from the US.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And you know, what are we going to do for
our allies? How are we going to funnel all of
this millions of dollars to them?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
But what they're not telling their viewers is that hidden
beneath these payments that we make, you know, to pay
for rice and being to these third world countries, but
we're also paying for is millions of dollars in the
type of funding initiatives, including to produce THEEI musicals in Ireland,
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transgender operas in Colombia, and a transgender comic book in Peru.
I mean, the American people are struggling financially. We have
been for about five years now, ever.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Since the pandemic and Divide. Administration spent years sending millions.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Of our taxpayer dollars. It's not billions over to do.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
These anti American, anti culture funding initiatives. And Trump has
essentially said stop. So he's put Elon Musk in charge
of DOGE, and DOGE has gone into the USAID.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
They shut out access through all the administrators. They kind
of put everybody on.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Notice that hey, listen, we're going to go in We're
going to look at all the.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Line items, figure out where this spending is going.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
We're going to send it over to.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The president, and then presidents going to decide if we
are going to continue these.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Different type of operations, which I think is a really
great idea. But what is really funny to me at least,
and this whole situation is watching how badly the Democrats
are freaking out about this. I mean, you've got Chuck
Schumer standing on the stage just screaming and hollering about
how this is, you know, ant a democratic and no
one voted for Elon Musk and you know, just really waving.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
His arms in the air like no that Earth is
following type of situation.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
But what they're really upset about is the fact that
we're stopping these dates. I mean, one of the news
stories that came out today was that Politico received eight
million dollars from USAID. And if you remember, Politico was
one of the outlets that went and pushed the false.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Narrative that the Hunter Biden.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Laptop story was a Russian you know, hoax, essentially that
Russia paid for it. So when you're looking at the
line items on these things, it's ridiculous what they've required
the American people to pay for.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I think that that's.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
A great thing that the trumpetstration is doing, and it's
also preventing them from continuing to undermine American national security,
our sovereignty. They pay millions of dollars to teach a
little illegal immigrants how to cross the border.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And how to stay in our country, how to avoid ice.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I mean, we're talking about really harmful things, and not
to mention the fact millions and millions of dollars to
organizations that are connected to terrorist organizations, and the Bided
administration alone is responsible for sending more than one point
thirty billion dollars to groups that sponsored or committed terrorism.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You know, for me Mary watching this, the thing that
I find the most interesting is that Washington, DC is
in full meltdown mode. But the American people are like,
you got to be kidding you with some of these
expenditures that we've heard about, and what I think that
you know, there probably are some really good, worthwhile programs
in USAID because when this program was started, it was
(03:53):
started with the idea that if we use our dollars
to encourage development and growth in these developing nations, then
we would have fewer problems worldwide, right because if a
country is prosperous and everyone's doing well, they're far less
likely to agitate and cause problems or pick a war
with somebody next to them. But the problem is is
that Congress didn't put any guardrails on what this stuff
(04:14):
could be spent on. You know, and now we see
what you're talking about and what others have been talking about.
The crazy nature of some of the stuff that they
have spent money. I got to tell you, I'm pretty
sure that Politico also was very instrumental in pushing the
Christopher steal dossier as well. So the fact that they
got money from USAID is appalling, absolutely appalling to me.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And it would be really interesting to see what other.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Outlets are uncovered as receiving aids our money from USAID.
And the other thing is is that most Americans, the
reason why they're kind of sitting back and.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Going so what in this situation.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Is a lot of people have never even heard of USAID,
and if they had, they connected with what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The humanitarian side.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Of it, where we're sending over funding and helping.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Me is you know, developing nations in order for US
not to have to some troops over there.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
In case something kicks off. But an underlying thing that
is little discussed is the fact that some of.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
This USAID money is being connected to regime changes in
some of these countries. And so if we're talking about
nation building, if we're talking about sovereignty.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And all of those things, that the American people should
not be paying for.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Regime changes at all, period end of story, and so
that's not in the America's best interests. It's not in
the best interests of our national security.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
It increases the chance that we.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Are going to have illegal migration happening at our southern border,
because you're going to have displaced for residents from their own.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Country right trying to come into a country that's more stable.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I mean, we're talking about just in all stacets of American.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Life being affected by this AID, and you know, we're
really putting a stop to it.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And I think that that is such a great thing that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Trump is doing right now.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It's probably one of the most.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Important things that he's done so far.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
And if you think about.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It, he's only been in office January.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Twentieth, and he's already shaking up this you know, establishment
regime that has had control over our government for decades.
And the USAID is technically supposed to report the president.
It's under the governance of the Executive Ranch and its
reports the President of the National Security Council, and they
have been obstinate whenever our presidents have gone in and
tried to audit them or get any type of data.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Information from them, and also obstinate.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
To the Congress who is control of the national purse.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And so whenever you have congressional.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Officials going in trying to get answers from this, like
our senator.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Our Iowa Senator Jodie Earnst.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Who tried to get information on what kind.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Of money USAID was sending into Ukraine. She essentially was
told no, you can't receive anything impact, you know, And
then she did a little.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Book pushback and they let her and her team in,
but she wasn't allowed to write anything down.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
She wasn't she wasn't allowed to take notes, she wasn't
to take any documents out of the building. You had
to remember everything verbatim. And the things that I found
were really shocking in this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So you have to ask yourself at the end.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Of the day, what is this government agency? Who is
it accountable to?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's accountable to the President of the president.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's full authority to go in and audit this place
if it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Allowing that process to take.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Place, and they're actually the anti democratic.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Process and the government and the president.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Has authority to go in and do it exactly what
he did.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Mary, I have always shied away from using the term
deep state, because I think it's unnecessary, inflammatory, and you know,
it creates a certain a feeling of division for some people.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But my gosh, if that's not the deep state.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
While you were just talking about a bureaucracy that refuses
oversight from a sitting US senator, this is the deep state.
This is what we're talking about. This is what Trump
is trying to root out. And I, you know, whatever
good this organization has done, I'm sure the State Department
can continue in some manner, but I'm ready to see
this go. And I've been absolutely shocked by the speed
(08:06):
with which Donald Trump has has has taken action in
this this election or this administration.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I think you and I are in agreement. I keep
calling this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know, Trump two point zero is a much different
Trump than Trump one point oh right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
He learned a.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Lot about the intractability of Washington d C in his
first administration. And I don't know if all this stuff
is going to stand constitutionally, everything that he's done, and
I'm certainly hoping that Congress is going to step up
and start codifying some of this stuff into law.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But that being said, this is a whole new ballgame.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I got to say, it's been fascinating to watch,
don't you think absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know, Trump two point oh is exactly how I tudcoris.
And the thing is is that they they.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Were wholly unprepared, yeah, to handle this new Trump administration,
which is great for the American people.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know, the first administration, they.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Swarmed him like bees on.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Honey and they were going to protest to hide that
they had created there, and they did a very good
job of pushing him out. We saw that in the
State Department, we saw that in the Pentagon.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
We saw that in all these different areas. And Trump
learned from his lesson.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
He came in guns a blazing into this administration.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
He has spent the last three weeks working like a
dog to make sure that he roots out all of
the problems. I think the biggest thing that we're saying.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I saw the government.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Buyouts and all these people self ejecting from the government.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And you know, we just heard last night.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
That they're doing the same exact thing with the CIA,
and you're offering them a buyout to be able to leave.
And I think this is really great for American people because,
you know, conservative media has done a really good job
at least over the last four years trying to root
out the problem and explain to the American people what
has been going on.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Behind the scenes, especially when we refer.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
To things like the deep state. But what they don't.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Understand is that the deep state is not necessarily just the.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Intelligent agencies that are working against the American people, are
working to spy on them and take their data and
use it against them, like.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
We saw with January sixth. What the deep state really is.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Is unelected bureaucrats like the ones that work at USAID,
and you know, they're using your money in order.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
To promote programs that are.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Completely antithetical to the way the American people feel about this,
especially when it comes to things like.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Gender ideology and the DEI initiative.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The things that I've seen, the lists that I've seen,
and I haven't confirmed all the lists that are flying
around the internet right now, and their significant lists flying
around the internet right now, but there does seem to
be an outsized number of gender ideology or gay issues
that USAID has been funding. Is that just because that's
where the Democrats drove the agency that was the priority
(10:48):
of the Biden administration, or why does it seem that
so much of it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Has to do with gay rights. Because I got to.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Tell you, if you told me that the USAAID was
funding you know, schools, or it was funding hospitals or
water systems in places that don't have clean water.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think we would all agree.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, that's probably a good expenditure of money, even though
we don't need to be spending more money from the
US right now. But when you're talking about things that
seem to promote gender ideology or confusion, or even a
fair treatment of gay people, which I'm not opposed to,
But is that the role of the federal government where
we've got a one point eight trillion dollar deficit last year, And.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That is exactly the point. It is not the role of.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Federal government to change the minds of foreign countries on
the way that they approach these same topics, especially whenever
you consider the fact that they're extremely.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Unpopular with the you know, with more than half of the.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
American people, right, and so whenever you're looking at these
programs in places like Pakistan, in Afghanistan and in all
of these things, and you're you're like, okay, but they
need running water, they need a functional deacy or.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
A functioning governing system.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And you know when you talk about, well, why aren't
we building water.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Private supplies so these people could do it?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
You know, we send millions of dollars over there to
try and build bridges, to try and build infrastructure there.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But the same thing, that's like what we see in California.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
The money is mismanaged, that things never get built, and
if they get built, they break almost immediately. And so
all of the money that we spent hundreds of millions
of dollars on these different types of projects, they it's
just wasted.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's all wasted fund money. And most of the money
that is spent.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
By USAID, they say that about.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Ten to thirteen percent actually gets spent on those types
of projects, and the rest of it goes to administrative costs.
And we all know what that means. It means being
funneled into the money or into the pockets of people
who are controlling these projects.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
And that's why you.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
See oligarchs in Ukraine running away with suitcases full of
millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
That's why you see the president.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Of Ukraine running away with millions of dollars. A completely
corrupt system, and we have to put into it, and
that's what President Trump did.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I saw a video on X yesterday. I'm a young
woman and she is African. I don't though she still
lives in Africa, but she made the comment that I
thought was really interesting. She said, you know, it's interesting
for everyone in Africa who wants to talk about being
free of their colonial past, they're now all freaking out
because the money train is going to be cut off.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But then she went on to explain just what you
just said.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
A vast majority of the foreign aid that comes to
African nations is hoovered up by corrupt officials and it
never actually gets to the people that is supposed to serve.
The entire system is broken. So maybe if we break.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It and cut off the money, there will be some.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Way for these people to get some of the corruption
out of their system of government. Maybe their countries can flourish.
Mary Brook from The Daily Caller, I really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Your time today.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Great column, well done, and hopefully we'll talk again in
the future.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
All right, sons, great, thank you to all right, thank.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You, Mary, and to port a link on the blog
to that column that she wrote.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's very very good.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
The other part about USAID that I think is important
because somebody texted this. Actually there's a similar text now, Mandy.
In the seventies, the CIA youthed USAID is a front
to enter various countries and change the leadership through violent acts.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
A lot of people believe.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That the USAID budget is all just CIA black ops.
And if that's what it is, fine, put it under
the CIA's budget. Don't tell us it's roses and then
hand us crap, right, you.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Like, I understand that we have all kinds of tentacles
all around the world.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I'm just at the point now where I'm not sure
that that serves American interests.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
If we have CIA agents, you know, gathering intelligence on
people who are trying to do.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Us harm, I am all for that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But if we're trying to change the regime of Peru,
or we're trying to change the regime even of Venezuela,
which is an abject.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Disaster, that's not our job.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
What our job is is to protect the American borders
from the Venezuelan.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Gang members that are being rounded up right now in.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Aurora, Colorado. That's our job. The Venezuela have to sort
themselves out. The Venezuelans are going to have to rise
up and overthrow their government. That's their responsibility.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
But we cannot.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Continue to fund every scrappy nation that decides they need
our money, because right now we're funding both sides of
the war. In Mary's column, this is so appalling to me.
Let me find this right now. Let me scroll down.
One hundred and twenty two million dollars of taxpayer dollars.
(15:29):
Those are and I just want to put this in context.
And when we say taxpayer dollars, what does that mean.
I want you to think about taxpayer dollars like this.
If you make an hourly wage, you gave up, even
if you work a salary, you gave up hours of
your life that you're never going to get back, away
from your family, your friends, doing things that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
You love to go to work.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You may even love your job, that's great, but you
gave up those hours of your life where you had
to go and you had to make money. And the
federal government just took part of it for the privilege
of being an American, and they sent one hundred and
twenty two million dollars which represent those hours of your
life that you're never going to get back through USAID
that were funneled into groups aligned with Islamic terror organizations
(16:13):
in Gaza, Syria, and Afghanistan. So we are funding both
sides of these.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Wars, and I'm just over it. I'm over it. It
doesn't make sense. You know what I'd rather see.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'd rather see us take all of that money, reinvest
it in defending ourselves. Let's create a great missile defense system.
Let's let's tighten and harden our ports, so the reality
of getting a dirty bomb into the United States of
America gets a lot harder instead of spending one hundred
and twenty two million dollars to send it to people
who would blow us up at the first instance, Why
(16:46):
don't we make America truly safer. No, we're never going
to be one hundred percent safe. There's no such thing
as one hundred percent safety unless we're all just confined
in our homes like in China. Right, you know, in
a free society, you're going to have things that go wrong.
But I would much rather spend this money in making
the United States more vibrant, easier for people who want
(17:09):
to come here and do good and be productive to
immigrate to. I'm a big immigration fan, and our current
immigration system is so incredibly, incredibly broken that it's not
even funny. At the same time, we're giving ilegal immigrants,
you know, apartments and computers and cell phones.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Here in Denver. There are people who are already well.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Educated who want to come to the United States of
America and be productive members of our society right away.
They can't get in here because the immigration system is
so jacked up.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So we Chelsea.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Mandy, if you can think of a better way to
sell bombs and ammunition, I'd like to hear it, seriously,
the military industrial complex or sincerely rather now I got it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm not a fan of the military industrial complex. I'm
really not.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And all of that foreign aid that we send to
other countries gets recycled back into our defense contractors, who
then promise weapons systems that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Never get delivered or never work properly.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
The whole system is dysfunctional and broken, but it goes
well beyond the military industrial complex. As a matter of fact,
I would urge you text her Gobec can read Dwight
the Eisenhower's speech where that phrase military industrial complex came
from and then read about the scientific industrial complex. That
actually concerns me more than the military industrial complex, because
(18:28):
that's why we have the nonsense around glow, global warming
and climate change. That's why we have the COVID response
that we have now because of the scientific military or
scientific industrial complex which has been wholly captured by uh
by government, and therefore we're going to get the answers
the government wants us to give. Oh, it's fascinating, Mandy.
(18:51):
I sent this text to her my friend this morning.
Great minds think alike. I have never understood how it
makes any sense when the US is essentially funding both
sides of a war. Assune talked about that too. It
boils down to being beneficial to some people and organizations
from a monetary and power position, but it is insane
when you think of it from a logical perspective. That
(19:13):
from Alexa, Yes, Alexa, Great minds do think alike. When
we get back, we have National Security Advisor for News
Nation to talk about yesterday's wild ass press conference with
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
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