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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell, Andy conn.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
On Kamata say the Noisy Gray.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
By Coronald Keith. You're a sad babe.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome to a Monday edition of the show. I'm
your host, Mandy Condele.

Speaker 6 (00:32):
And that guy over there is Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
You can call him a rod And holy schnikes do
we have a lot of stuff to talk about today.
And I finally feel like after a couple of things
happened this weekend and things are starting to come together
about the Ukraine war. Last week was a highly productive
week for discussions about the war in Ukraine. More on

(00:55):
that later, but over the weekend, I finally feel like
I'm starting to get a handle on things because now
the Trump administration is not sending out five thousand executive
orders every day for me to keep up with. So
I'm feeling good, feeling in good spirits this week. So
I've got a huge blog for you today, So let's
jump in and do that. Find the blog by going

(01:15):
to mandy'sblog dot com. That's Mandy's blog dot com. Look
for the headline that says two twenty four to twenty
five blog longevity secrets and the Colorado GOP is about
to end themselves. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within good.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Anyone wants to list in office.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Half of American alwayships and.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
He's president. You're sorry. Want to live a longer, healthier life.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
The Colorado GOP is about to commit suicide for the party.
Can we talk about trans troops for a minute? Colorado
Dems make being a criminal more comfortable again. Trump politicizes
the DOJ. The oscars may be interesting this year. The
Pope is very sick. Hey, look, taxing the rich didn't work.
I'm in favor of expanding county commissions. This is what

(02:05):
Excel wanted all along. More col Radden's have concealed carry permits.
The EPA is clawing back twenty billion dollars given to
Biden friends. The new season of Reacher is crazy good.
The FBI gets muscle at the top. Something went down
at the airport school. Spend COVID money on a bunch
of stupid crap. If you've been getting compounded Wigovi or

(02:26):
ozimpic Er. Europe wakes up to the New Defense Reality
explaining the vance Ferguson spat on Ukraine Representative Elon Omar
drops the.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Seraye and hates us all.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Charlemagne the God understands what the Democrats don't. The ten
pounds cinnamon rolls seems excessive diving with manta rays.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
This is next level dadding right here. The Safety Dance.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Kendrick Lamar edition. This Honda is pretty cool. Why Elon
isn't a bought asset of Putin? Those are the headlines
on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com, and lots and
lots as you can see on the blog, so much stuff.
But can we all just have a moment, a moment
of gratitude for the Kendrick Lamar halftime show because the

(03:11):
Internet has taken over and the Internet dubbed the Safety
Dance over the Kendrick Lamar halftime Show and it's perfect.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
But that's not You go to the Internet, you can
find all kinds of songs.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
It's not that quite as great as the increased appreciation
for the best condiment on Earth, mustard because of DJ Mustard,
but it's right.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
This Safety Dance is pretty damn good.

Speaker 6 (03:34):
It's very entertaining, so that's on the blog today, very
very very entertaining.

Speaker 8 (03:38):
Do you know DJ Mustard? Who is Mustard? On that beat?
All the songs?

Speaker 6 (03:41):
I had no idea what that muster on that.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
He's a very very very talented, very good producer on
that song, on many songs, including a few of Kendrick.
DJ Mustard his real name, his real first name. Why
it's called DJ Mustard, His name is de Jon. I'm
not kidding. He named himself DJ Mustard because his real

(04:04):
legal first name is DJOC.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Do you know what.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
Bless him for having a sense of humor, just leaning in.
Bless him.

Speaker 8 (04:12):
I love that Mustard, not on this be of safety dance.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
But no, no, not at all.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Okay, you guys know that I love talking about health
and longevity and stuff like that. So today I've got
doctor and mul Kapoor coming on. He is with a
company that works on longevity and biometrics and all of
this like cool medicine of the future stuff.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
So we're going to talk to him. I want to
talk to him.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Specifically about stress because we've entered a very interesting time
with health where people are actually realizing that instead of
racing to get a medication, Although that is the default
position for most people.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Give me a pill and I'll take care of it.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
More and more people are starting to recognize that if
you take care of your body by feeding it well
and by exercising on a regular basis, by spending time
with other people, other human beings, a lot of these
medical issues that we have solved themselves, especially chronic conditions.
And please don't, please don't take it if you have
a chronic condition that is incurable except with medication.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
I'm not talking about you.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
I am talking about the fact that there are a
lot of chronic conditions that can be drastically improved with
good diet, at daily exercise, and spending time with friends
and being fulfilled, you know, working on being fulfilled instead
of just sitting at home watching TV. So I want
to talk to him about how stress plays into this,
because now people are beginning to realize that stress is

(05:39):
a killer. And that's a literal statement. It is not me,
you know, trying to be funny. So I want to
talk to him about stress longevity. I just read a
fascinating study over the weekend, and they took two groups
of people, one where they had great genetics like their parents,
live to be really old and were really healthy and

(06:00):
till they died. And then they had group number two
where they had terrible genetics parents died early of you know,
heart disease or cancer or something.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
And then they divided those groups into two subgroups. A
group that took care.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Of their diet, exercised and saw other people and were social,
and the other people did not. And lifestyle choices beat
genetics when it came to longevity. So there are ways
to improve not just how long you live, but how
healthily you live. Because I don't think anybody is like,
you know, I want to live to be one hundred
if I am completely bedridden, in pain all the time

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and have no future. Nobody wants to live to one
hundreds like that. When we think about living to one hundred,
we think about people we see on television that are
giving out advice on how to live to one hundred,
and they're like, I do a jig and drink a
glass of whiskey once a day, you know, and they're happy.
So I don't know, we're going to talk to him.
I'm very interested about that. And then at two point thirty,

(06:55):
you guys, I got some inside baseball that is so
incredibly important, not just to Republicans, it is so incredibly
important to the entire state of Colorado. Because I've been
here since twenty thirteen, and in the twelve years that
I have been here, the decline of Denver, the decline

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of Colorado, the decline in our business climate, standing in
the safety level that citizens can expect, We're now one
of the most violent states in the country. Think about
that for a second.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
That just happened. It hasn't always been that way. And
if you want more of the same, keep allowing.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
The Democrats to go unschecked, and even more so, go
ahead and increase their power, because the Colorado Republican Party,
under the alleged leadership of Dave Williams, has managed to
excommunicate enough people that don't like them and install enough
loyalists to the Central Committee that there's a very real

(08:02):
chance that they are going to vote to leave the
primary system. And then the Republican Party in the State
of Colorado will only nominate lunatics out of the Assembly
because the Assembly is only attended by the most die hard,
and they tend to be at this point the most

(08:23):
likely to support the idiocy that is the leadership right
now of the Colorado Republican Party, because everybody else doesn't
want to be associated with them.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Everybody else has just been like, you know what, that's
too crazy for me. And I've said it before.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
They would rather burn it all down and rule over
the ashes than actually win races then really be realistic
about what the landscape looks like in Colorado, because if
they had nominated the people that they endorsed, just throwing
tradition out the window by endorsing in the primaries, none
of those people would have won.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
And here's why. It's simple math.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
If they couldn't win the Republican primary, even if independents
voted in the Republican primary, then how in the world
were they supposed to win even more people, including Democrats
in the general.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
There's a real chance that are.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Four sitting Republican men and women of Congress would not
be the candidates for the Republican Party out of the Assembly.
And there's a very real chance that the Republican Party
would be assisted in losing the House. And if that happens,
any big agenda items that are finally making their way

(09:38):
through Congress, which they need to be now are going
to be dead in the water.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
So there's a lot going on right now.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
There is a lot at stake, and there are really
really dumb decisions being made right now, and it's all
about cementing the power of Dave Williams. It's all about
he's created his little fiefdom and by God, he's going
to rule that fiefdom with an iron fist. And it's
just going to be an absolute disaster for the state

(10:06):
of Colorado and possibly the United States of America.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
And here's the thing, I don't know how to fix it.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
But I'm going to talk to Dick Wadhams at two
thirty as a column on the Denver Gazette today about
this issue and just about the just insane nonsense that's
going on in the party right now. By the way, newsplash.
I don't know if you guys knew this. Apparently Lauren
Bobert is a rhino now. And if that's the case,

(10:34):
if she's being called a rhino because she dared to
push back against rules changes that Williams was trying to
make to cement his power, if she's a rhino, then
the word is absolutely meaningless. Well, it's always been meaningless.
But now we know for a fact that it is
absolutely meaningless. Mandy, Dave Williams nothing but a Democrat plant

(10:56):
as a part of the Colorado blueprint.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
I don't know about that, of you know, I do
think that the.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Democrats in Colorado are way better at politics than the
Republicans in Colorado. So maybe if they were trying to
infiltrate the party and destroy it, they could not have
chosen a better candidate. I will tell you that, Mandy,
I thought Dave Williams was out. What keeps happening. We
hear the stories from you.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Everybody's saying they had a vote, they did this, they
did that. He will be voted out.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Because everyone knows he's a lunatic. But yet he's still
leaving the Republican Party. Okay, So a judge decided that
the meeting that was held according to the bylaws was
not and threw it out. And now Dave Williams is
suing the Republicans who dared to go against him. He's
wasting party funds, suing people who challenge his power. Yeah,

(11:51):
it's in a great situation. I feel good about it.
I feel good about putting these people back in charge
I do, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 9 (11:59):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
By the way, this is complete sarcasm, and I'm lying
through my teeth. Mandy, it's neat.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
You're optimistic about Colorado, but there are way too many
baby killers in Colorado to begin having any appreciation for life.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
This is the guy who was talking.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
About the other day, who was literally a one trick pony.
It's well two tricks. It's bitching about something I just said,
or it's trying to tie everything back to abortion. I
really I don't even know what to say. You know,
Davidians like the branch Davidians.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Yes, yes, indeed.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Ooh this text makes me very happy. Hello Mandy, and
happy Monday. I just wanted to say thank you for
introducing me to the Glucose Goddess. She's really opened my
eyes to how I eat. I'm telling you right now,
the Glucose Goddess amaze balls. Go follow her on YouTube
if you want to learn about how your body works
and how it processes sugar and how the whole system

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is supposed to function. Nobody does it better than her,
Nobody makes it more interesting, and you will begin to
realize how our disastrous American diet is responsible for so
much more, so much more than just you know, us
being chunky. Anyway, Mandy uh Well, Ralph in black Forest says,

(13:15):
we in l Paso County have to organize to get
rid of Williams. Crony's here. Not sure if I can
make it happen. Oh for the days of dueling. Oh yeah,
El Paso County is completely completely consumed. And it's I
don't get it. I really don't get it. What I
don't get about that group of people. They really believe
that candidates in Colorado need to be more right wing. Now,

(13:39):
Gabe Evans District, the eighth congressional district, that is going
to be a district that's going to be in play.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
For a very long time every single election cycle.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
That is going to be a battleground seat because that
demographic is so evenly divided. You run a hard right
candidate there, they're going to get their butts kicked.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
And it's not even going to be close.

Speaker 9 (14:01):
So I just I don't know.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
I don't know what they think they see.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
I don't know what they think they see from the
Colorado electorate that has just moved further to the left
as the rest of the country has moved to the right, Like,
what are you gonna do bludgeing them into believing that
the right wing way is the way to go, insult
them into voting for you.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
I don't understand the strategy there. There are districts that are.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Gonna be in play, like the eighth, where you are
gonna have to work with the other side on occasion.
You're gonna have to listen to half of the constituents
in that district as well as the half that voted
for you. You don't have the luxury of running rough
shot and making grand pronouncements without paying attention to half

(14:43):
the people that you represent. So I don't know how
they think they're gonna get what's gonna happen here? Are
you think Janet Joshi would have won there?

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Oh? Come on. It's just.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
The reason I'm so concerned about this because you guys know,
I've left the Republican par.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
I'm okay with that, by the way, but I still
live in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
We haven't even really talked that much about the stuff
that's going on at the legislature because it's so insane.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
We have bills. We have a bill, that gun bill
that was so bad that we talked about.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
So much has now morphed into asking for permission and
getting put on a list after jumping through a million
hoops to buy a firearm that a lot of people
already own in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
They don't care what we think. They don't care how
people testify. Democrats know that they can do whatever they want,
and there's nothing that we can do to stop them,
nothing except kick them out of office. And if we
have a functioning Republican party and decent candidates who are
not just running around spouting off trying to be the
next Trump, but actually can articulate policy positions and do

(15:57):
a great job making the case for conservative answers to
the problems that face Colorado. You know, there's been a
lot of talk about this big budget shortage that's happening
on right now in the.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
State of Colorado.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
If you look at the percentage of taxes that used
to be paid by the oil and gas industry, either
directly or indirectly, it's almost the same as the shortfall
that we have in the budget right now. But do
you hear any Democrats who have been anti oil and gas,
who have done everything in their power to make it

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really undesirable to do oil and gas business here in Colorado.
Do you hear them taking any responsibility? Of course not,
and they're counting on us not to talk about it.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
So we have got to have a functioning.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Republican party in the state of Colorado. It must happen,
and we do not have it now. We have these
people who are wasting resources to doing other Republicans. I mean,
the pettiness, the smallness.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Ugh, a super frustrating. I didn't mean to go on
that tear.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Actually, I was gonna save that for when Dick Wadhams
came on.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
But I'll just refer people back to.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
This when that comes on later for my terror on this.
But it's just I'm worried. I'm genuinely worried.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Mandy. How do you opt out of the party? How
did you do it?

Speaker 5 (17:27):
You have to go to the Secretary of State's website
and then look for something that either says register to vote,
click on that and you can get to change your
party affiliation. I just changed to an independent. So yeah, Mandy,
is this a different horse? Nope, same dead horse. I'll
shove him back in the closet until two thirty though

(17:47):
I promise you Texter Her trust me, you guys. I
wish that I didn't have to drag this dead horse out.
I wish that the people who are in the Central
Committee of the Republican Party would get the message that
it is up to them to not just vote their
little buddies into office, but the entire fate of the
state and the balance of power in the House of

(18:10):
Representatives depends on what they do.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
And if they continue to consolidate.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Power around Dave Williams, we will not have four Republican
members in Congress.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
We will not.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Republicans may not keep the House of Representatives in Congress,
but hey, you know what, at.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Least they'll have their way. And I told Ross this
as he.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Was walking out, And I hate to say this because
this is just like me being petty and small, and
I don't like to be petty and small. But part
of me hopes they're successful because if they are and
they do what I think they're going to do, and
they absolutely fail spectacularly as I believe they would, then yeah,
they would be excommunicated forever from the party. So part

(18:56):
of me hopes they win, because you know what, we
can't build it back up until we burn it to
the ground. I guess, so let's just throw some gasoline
on the fire and make that happen. And those are
rhetorical comments. I am not suggesting in any way, shape
or for him than any burn anything actual, you know, down,
So please, I hate that.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
I have to be clear about that. But you'd be
amazed how stupid people can be. A lot of you
were weighing in.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
On the text line about my little rant there on
the Republican Party. We're going to get into that with
Dick Wadhams coming up, and somebody made this point, and
I think it's a fair point. Mandy, longtime Colorado Republican,
having changed my affiliation to independent right after the party
stuck first Bush.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Down my throat.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Just want to point out Wadams was head of the
Colorado Republican Party when Colorado started turning Democratic, just saying, really.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Have little respect for Dick. Dick was the president.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
What you guys have to realize is that you're not
giving the Democratic Party here in Colorado enough credit when
you say, yeah, Dick was in charge, he should have
he should have seen it coming. Because to this day,
right now we all know if you haven't read The Blueprint.
It's a book about how the Colorado Democratic Party and
four billionaires flipped the state from red to blue.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Fascinating, it's really fascinating.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
But to look at that now and recognize Dick was
in charge, you're not giving enough credit to the level
of organization that went on behind the scenes, that sort
of came out of nowhere and was used to successfully,
very successfully flipped the state. And Dick has been trying
to bring sanity back to the party, try really hard,

(20:38):
but there's still within the Republican Party here in Colorado
a resistance to building the kind of infrastructure that the
Democrats built to take back this they took over the
state with it.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Progress.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Now, those organizations, those separate organizations that they use as
attack dogs, those are all funded by that organization, and
the Republican Party doesn't fund things on the right the
same way people don't donate to organizations like the Independence
Institute or the Steamboat Institute.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Or these things.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
These organizations that could do more, but they're simply underfunded.
So it's frustrating because the Republicans will donate to a
candidate or a cause, but they won't donate to build
the infrastructure that makes those candidates and causes a little
easier to get over the finish line, right. I mean,

(21:33):
they just act like they're going to throw a bunch
of money at something or someone and that's going to
solve the problem when there's no underlying thing to fall
back on, there's no organization to tap into to get.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Them done, and super frustrating. It's very, very frustrating.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
How can the Republican Party ever improve when people jump
ship and become independents. I gave that a lot of thought,
trust me, but it came down to this, I don't
want to have to explain what the Republican Party leadership
is doing. I don't want to have to do it,
and trust me, as a talk show host, people are
content they're doing it.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Now, how can you explain what Donald Trapp is doing?

Speaker 5 (22:09):
I mean, you really should see the emails. Not very
many last time, a lot this time.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
Just a few, just a few.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I got one guy who's telling me every day I'm
responsible for the downfall of society.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
But I keep telling him, like you guys this weekend.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Over the weekend, there was a great debate last week
on social media, which maybe you could say, maybe the
Vice President of the United States doesn't need to be
having a debate on social media, but I think it's wonderful.
Jadie Vance and Nile Ferguson got into a very lengthy
back and forth on the war.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
In Ukraine, very lengthy, and it was all public.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
I love that the It was the equivalent of, like
I just envisioned people with the Founding Fathers getting up
on an actual soapbox to be heard and then you.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Know, another one getting out. I have to argue against it.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
That's what we now have on social media, especially with
this administration, especially with Jade Vance willing to engage with
people like Nile Ferguson. That exchange and some things this
weekend that have come out about this rare earth minerals
deal have given me a lot of perspective on what
Trump is doing. And I've said this since the beginning

(23:22):
of this crazy administration. Whatever Trump does first is never
the endgame. It is never where we're going. It is
simply a starting position to put everyone on notice that
we're doing something. It's almost like, you know what, gentlemen,
start your engines. That's basically what whatever Trump says first
is just gentlemen, start your engines, because watching what's happening

(23:45):
now with him calling Zelensky out as a dictator, with
what's actually happening behind the scenes is that the United
States is working on a deal which according to both sides,
is coming along nicely that would give the United States
access to exploit and explore the rare earth minerals in Ukraine,

(24:05):
which are significant, like seven percent.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Of the world's rare earth minerals are in Ukraine.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
So that relationship would benefit Ukraine because then the United
States has a vested financial interest in Ukraine, meaning that
if you know, if it hits the fan, they're gonna
have Ukraine's back. So all of this stuff that was
just to put Zelensky on notice that a he wasn't

(24:33):
dealing with Joe Biden anymore, and b he better like
bring it to the table and let's talk, and if
we can actually get that done.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
If that deal.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Happens, that pretty much changes geopolitical relationships when it comes
to defense and war and everything else, because for far
too long, the United States has just footed the bill
for everything.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Think of how many nations we've think about how many
nations we've supplied with weapons think.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
About how many nations we've been involved with their business
and got nothing in return.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
Remember when we.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Were allegedly rolling into a rock for oil. We were
going to go in and steal the oil of a rock.
How did that work out? Not that I'm recommending we
go in and plunder the oil of a rock, but
we've spent I mean over a trillion dollars on that thing,
and you know, we did a terrible job for people
who were at war for oil. Now, what we've done,

(25:29):
if this deal gets done, what we've done is we
are now creating a situation where we're going to go
to war for rare earth minerals. But rare earth minerals are.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
One of the keys to green energy, and right now
China controls way too much of it, way way way
too much of it. So in order to secure our
own future when it comes to green energy, rare earth
minerals and other things that run our entire world computer chips,

(26:01):
we're gonna go.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Ahead and cut this steal with a guy who has
no other choice. Let's be real.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
You know, there's been there's been rumblings across the EU
they're gonna make an EU army. I mean you guys,
it's kind of adorable, but what kind of timeframe are
we looking at?

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Two years?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
I mean, how long does it take to create an
army out of whole cloth from nations who don't have
that much military hardware? I mean, an army that's worth anything,
I should be clear. So it's like they have no idea.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Without us, Lensky can't go on.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
So right now, Donald Trump has him over a barrel
and he's I mean, I think he's trying to allow
him to have some means of saving face by saying, look,
I've cut this deal with the United States, but in exchange,
we get access to all this technology that we do
not have because mining for some of these rare earth
minerals is very very difficult, very difficult.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
So now they get.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
America and technology, they get the opportunity to have American
capital come into Ukraine after the war's over, and they
have a graceful way to stop the killing. Do you
guys realize a million people have died in the Ukraine War?

Speaker 6 (27:13):
A million. That's insane.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
For what for what?

Speaker 5 (27:21):
I mean, you know, it's it's going to be fascinating
to watch what's happening here, but for all of these
people who are losing their minds about us turning our
back on Ukraine. This is why you cannot take the
bait with Trump. You cannot take whatever happens first and
make that your position, like you know, run a post

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to that, because.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
You don't even know the rest of what's happening.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
This has been incredibly fascinating to watch, really really fascinating.
I was talking to a friend this morning and she
was bemoaning the fact that Trump had installed all of
these loyalists in the administration, and I just sent back, look,
in the first Trump administration, he was absolutely stymied by

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the resistance bureaucracy of Washington, DC. He learned his lesson,
and in order to prevent that from happening again, he
is installing loyalist wherever he can. And frankly, I don't
blame him. I do the exact same thing. I mean,
fool me once, well you know how the rest goes.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
He says.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
I was in South Dakota running funds campaign in two
thousand and four when Dems won the state legislature. In
the US Senate, seat was chaired from two thousand and
seven to twenty eleven when we got one hundred and
six thousand more Republicans and Democrats out to vote and
unseated two incumbent Democratic members of Congress and two incumbent
statewide elected officials, and we won the first state House

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majority in eight years. So, Texter, perhaps you're looking in
the wrong direction there, and I'll admit I had the
timeline wrong myself, so I apologize. Dick will be on
at two thirty to continue this conversation. So I was
just talking about why I think Trump is right on Ukraine.
I also want to talk now about where I think

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Trump is wrong. And George Brockler wrote a very very
good column for the Denver Gazette about Trump's decision to
end the prosecution of.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
New York Mayor Eric Adams.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you
that I have a deep knowledge of the accusations against
Mayor Adams. They're pretty run of the mill for a
politician sort of charges, meaning it's somebody trying to buy influence,
et cetera, et cetera. He's not accused of murder, he's
accused of typical political corruption.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Crap, and I'm not excusing it.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
And I want to read a couple of paragraphs from
George's column about this decision, and he's talking specifically about
the rationale that was given out by the Attorney General
Pam Bondi before the Justice Department.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
Decided to drop the charges. He says, yet, it is
not a reason to dismiss an.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Otherwise righteous prosecution of a corrupt politician.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
The situation is worse than you think.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
The argument defending the order is that the dismissal is
to be traded for Adam's cooperation in Trump's deportation efforts.
The dismissal, thought, is without prejudice, meaning.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
It could be brought again. The subtle threat is.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
That if Adams refuses to dance to Trump's tune on
immigration and deportion, he faces a renewed effort to convict
and incarcerate him. Say it out loud, to appreciate how
ridiculous it is. A corrupt politician will only be allowed
to avoid accountability for his criminal conduct only as long
as he does the president's bidding. If, as Trump's team believes,

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the case was always unjust and political in nature, dismiss
it with prejudice so it can never be raised again.
The current effort looks a lot like political extortion. If
you doubt that answer this question, would the case ever
need to be brought again? And this is where I'm
going to criticize the Trump administration because this is politicizing

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the DOJ. And I don't know about you, Well, that
is explicitly what I voted against in the last election cycle.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
This kind of stuff I do not like.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
And I would hope that other Republicans would call this out.
I really because here's the thing, and George is right.
If they had dismissed it so I could never be
brought again, you.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
Could not make that argument.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
But because they didn't, because the threat is implied, Hey,
you know what, you play ball with us and we're
not going to recharge you.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
But if you don't, well you know we have the option.
I don't like that. That's like like strong arm stuff.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Now, when you do it to Ukraine in exchange for
rare earth minerals in exchange for military support, I'm fine
with that, I truly am.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
That's foreign policy.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
But when you use threat of prosecution over someone's head
to force them to do what you want them to do, that,
as a that's a horse of a different color.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
And I do not like it.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
I'm gonna be very honest with you guys. When Trump
does something good, I'm gonna say I love this. When
he does something I don't like, I'm gonna say I
do not like this, because I am never going to
be one of those people that's just gonna blow smoke
up your butt because I don't play team politics. I
play what's good for the country. And if anyone is
going to jump to the defense of the Trump Department

(32:35):
of Justice over this, I would ask you to put
the shoe on the other foot. What if it was
the Biden Department of Justice that was doing this. What
if they had had, you know, exonerated a Republican governor
in order to force him to do what they want
him to do. And I realized he's just mayor. But
you know what I mean, if it's not okay in

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that circumstance, then it's not okay in this circumstance.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
And we have to be able to say that's not okay,
and we don't want that to happen.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
We need to stop this. We need to let them
know that's unacceptable. Mandy Joy Reid still has her job
doing NBA games, though, doesn't she Oh wait, that's Charles Barkley.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Never mind what they there, They don't, they're not. They
have the same haircut almost, but that's no, no, no, no.

Speaker 10 (33:27):
No.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Anyway, So it's there are things that are going on
that I absolutely love. I do wish that we could
talk a little bit more about what's happening in Israel
right now, because things are really really bad in Israel.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
And it's I mean, you're you're like, no, man, it's
under a c spark.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
No, there's bombs blowing up, there's buses blowing up until Aviv,
and I'd like to see a little more attention, but
I guess one thing at a time, one major conflagration
at a time.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
Will have to wait and see what happens when we
get back.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Is the stress of all of this getting to you, Well,
you better be aware of what stress can do to
your body. In the next segment, I've got longevity expert
doctor and Moel Kapor coming on to talk about stress, longevity,
how to live your fullest life, all that good stuff,
because you know I love that stuff.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
We'll do that next.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
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Speaker 5 (34:47):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
And if you've listened to the show for any length
of time, you know I love to talk about health
and longevity and how to be the happiest, healthy su
you can be for the longest amount of time. And
I'm extremely excited about My next guest is doctor Emil Kapoor.
He's a cardiologist, researcher and healthcare innovator. He owns over

(35:08):
seventy plus patents in digital health, genomics, and AI driven
healthcare solutions, and he talks about these things that I
love all the time.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
This is what he does. Doctor Kapoor, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
First of all, thank you so much for having me today.
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (35:23):
Well.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
I want to start.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
You know, we talk a lot about not just living
a long time, but living a healthy life.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
And one of the things that I feel like people.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Are really starting to understand in a way I don't
recall my lifetime, and that is the effect of stress on.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Our overall health. So how much of a role.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Does stress play in someone's you know healthy link lifespan.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Well, it's scuss played a huge role if you if
you feel stressed today and there were cortisol levels, the
stress hormone that goes high, and it stays a high
for about seven hours. When that is happening in our
bodies aging faster and the happy hormones, the serotonins are
not there to help counteract, say these cortso levels. The

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longer it means higher, the faster we age. So happiness
is very very important. The happy people live longer. So
what we need to understand is how to manage this
stress and have a strategy. We have stress in our life.
Everyone has it. I have it too. The key is
how do we handle it stressful streuss ful situations and

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how we can balance our mental health. So the cortisol levels,
the stress hormones are not higher, not peaking, and other
hormones are also not peaking, and our heart feels good
and happy and we are at a peaceful place, so
we end up living longer. So stress plays a huge
role other things. How stress harms us. We take the

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wrong cause. Whenever we are stressful, we tend to pick
up the bad habits either not exercising, pick up a call, use,
pick up smoking, use, and all those things do contribute
in bad health, and we are not able to live longer,
so not have a healthy, happy life. So that's why
it's very important to manage stress and so we can

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stay calmed, take the right calls, and exercise every day.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
You know, doctor Kapor, the stress management thing is it
sounds great? You know, of course we need to manage
our stress. But I after we have this conversation, we
have a text line where listeners can send text messages
to us. I will get text messages that say, I
know I need to manage my stress.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
I have no idea how to do that. So I mean,
what kind of advice do you give to people? And
is it you know, is there a one.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Size fits all thing or is it a process to
find out what really works for you?

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Well, everyone is the individual. So anyone who's feeling stressed
out today or anyone who's listening to you today, will
tell them to look into your gut, the gut feeling
you have, and the gut feeling is true because there
is a connection gut to brain. If you're feeling stressed,
if you're feeling sat today, if you're feeling depressed today,

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can currentee you have unhealthy gut today. Your gut microbiome
is not the right one in your stomach, you're not
making the happy hormone the serotonins ninety percent over or
made in your stomach. So if you don't have the
healthier microbiome, you don't have the right strategies to manage
a stress. Yes, people can say take a deep bread,

(38:35):
go for a walk, go for exercise, punching bag, whatever
strategy you have, or write it out on the journal.
So yes, there are multiple strategy people try. But if
you don't have the right defense mechanism, if you're not empowered,
if you don't have the right army in your stomach,
the right gut microbiome, you are not going to be
successful in those other strategies because what are you going

(38:58):
to do is you're going to make less on in
now you have less of those happy hormones, and the
cycle will continue viciously. So the first step is understand
the gut brain access, understand your gut microbiome, and then
have a dietary plan made on the gut microbiome. That's
the first step you should do. Afterwards, you should. You

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can get into exercise programs and monitor your cut microbiome
is getting held they're not getting held here. If it
is getting hellier, then continue the process. You'll notice now
suddenly you have this power in your body. You're able
to handle these stresses. Nothing fazes you anymore. So now
you can add on other techniques, debreeding, perhaps exercising more,

(39:44):
perhaps writing journals, but they'll be more successful, more empower you.
But the core of your strategy should be everything based
on the cut microbiome.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
I mean, that's kind of interesting that we've now come
back here because I believe it was Hippocrates that said
all health begins in the gut in like four hundred
or something a lot. I remember that from my Greek history.
But now we've come back this way. What is throwing
our people's What would throw your gut microbiome off?

Speaker 6 (40:10):
What would make it not be working properly?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Well?

Speaker 4 (40:15):
First things fast, we start with the hyper processed foods.
If you're going to use a hyper process ultra process
foods every day, will not have a healthy gut. If
you're going to use foods that are a lot of chemicals,
a lot of pesticize, a lot of ingredients we don't understand.
We go to the stores these days and pick up
anything in the shelf. There half the stuff you have

(40:37):
no idea. You buy a peanut butter, they'll put in
three five other things in peanut butter. Peanut butter should
be just a peanut butter if you don't have anything
else inside. But if you start putting these extra multifiers,
extra chemicals to stabilize its special colorings, so they do
interact in your stomach, they do make a microbiome on healthier.

(40:58):
You don't feel it, but eventually start to feel stomach
cup set, acidic feelings, You start to feel bloating gas constipations.
So all those symptoms lead to a bad stomach cup set.
You go see a doctor. What a doctor do you
give it to?

Speaker 10 (41:13):
You?

Speaker 4 (41:14):
You tant to give it to your pentaprozole orozole zen
tag and perhaps you buy some pink drinks on the shelf,
and you get a limited relief at that time. But
the longer you're continuing with your strategy, you are now
killing your good cut microbiome. The unhealthy one is now
getting more stronger. Now you're feeling more upset, you're feeling

(41:35):
more sad. So what you have to do is go
back to the science, the original science. Have good food.
Good foods are whole grain, whole food dyet which is
a fresh foods, and vegetables which is a multi grain,
multicolored foods. Cut down your processed foods. That's the first
tip you should do if you truly want to make

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your gut microboum healthier.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
So you mentioned that you're company actually does this kind
of testing. So what do you guys test for and
what happens after someone does a test?

Speaker 6 (42:07):
What happens after that?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Well, very amazing clinic. We have created one of a
kind in the word level global level. It's called Biogutclinic
dot com and we have a dietitians and psychologists. This
clinic was all started with a patient with IBS. We
know edative power syndrome is linked with stress. Every third
woman has IBS, Every fifth human on this or has IBS.

(42:32):
Most of my doctors were treating them with pentaprozole, ome prozols, zendidine,
other pepto bismol and bunch of those medications and it
was harming the gut barrier in the stomach and it
was leading them to more toxin absorption, more disease creation
with diabetes, autoimmune problems, and these patients with IBS was

(42:52):
suffering for decades. So we had patients got enrolled in
in this program where we have dietitians follow them. They
get to know they're eating habits, they do their initial
cut microbiome. There's a three month program. They don't recommend
any medication, they don't recommend any supplemented, they don't recommend nothing.
They'll say, look, we started the gut microbiome, establish a baseline.

(43:13):
Now a three months we follow you, will give you
your meal plans and the food you can buy where
you live right now, and we touch point. We have
five to seven touch points in three month journey and
and a three month journey. We'll check it again with
the cut microbiome. See it's getting better, and how there
and how you're feeling. With the Ti tree interventions, amazing

(43:33):
results we have seen. We have women twenty five years
of suffering with IBS. They're feeling better and healthy and
graduating from the program. No supplements given, no special diety
package was sold to them, no drugs were sold to them.
It's just working in their behavior, the tools they have
in their grocery store closer home, in their pantries. That's

(43:54):
about it.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
I'm glad that we are having a conversation. And regardless
of the controversial nature of sup some of RFK Junior's positions,
I'm really glad that he has pushed this conversation to
the forefront about our food because to your point, there's
too much in my view ultra process foods. And I
know they taste good, you know, they really taste good.

(44:17):
But I'm glad we're having the conversation that we're having,
Doctor Kapor, this is fascinating stuff.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
I mean, just really fascinating stuff. I want to ask you.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
You have a bunch of patents, you sort of work
on genomic level investigations of human health. How close are
we to having a system or is this what you
do now where you can tell someone specifically everything they
should eat, not just like a blanket one size fits all,

(44:45):
but this is the best food for that specific person
based on their genes. How close are we to getting
that kind of personalized level of service.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Thank you so much for asking, and we are already here.
I practic is my life that way. I'm a practicing
cardiology in Canada, and I learned through my own body
through genomic sequencing, microbiol sequencing, epigenomic sequencing. My wife being
a dietitian from Calgary, we learned through our own science

(45:18):
which have been practicing in Calgary was different than what
you were learning in our own labs. And what we
noted that many times people we are prescribing drugs are wrong.
In my own practice, I was noticing that I gave
a ask pain to people and their every seventh or
tenth person is a non responder. It is a rarely
established documented in clinical research. There are people a non

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responded to asphin. We still give them. They get stomach
upset ulcers, leaders, but we still gave them. Many people
are intolerant to statins, Many people in tolerant to many
blood pressure medication. We still give them because the guidelines
recommend them. Why we don't know who's going to respond,
who's not going to respond. We just wait for them
to respond, hopefully in a better way. And then we

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are patients with the corenity disease, the blockage in the
heart artery. Some are getting the recurrent hearted head, some
are not getting a heart deck at all. So there's
a variation out there. So one glove with all approach
is wrong in medicine. So that intrigued me to establish
company BIOWAREO the research we did it. So I practiced
medicine personally in my life, my family, my kids through

(46:22):
personalized way. And give you one example. So during COVID time,
I got some sinocytis. At that time, one of the
doctors recommended me to take antibiotic.

Speaker 8 (46:33):
I took it.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Guess what happened. My body reacted to antibiotic. I end
up developing ig of ascoltis. I asked my dermatology friend, say,
can you see what is ration I'm having on my feet?
He did a quick biopsy and we noticed ig of oscolitis. Yes,
I required a shorter, shortterm steroid treatment. Luckily I dodged
a bullet. My kidness could have been killed from that.

(46:56):
So that's where I learned the more importance. So I
don't any drug in my mouth personally. I don't give
to my kids unless the pharmacogenomically is safe. It is
individualized to them. I don't want to be a test
trial for form a company. I want to be individual
dosages and I want to know what side effect they
could have before I give them or before I take

(47:18):
my own medications if I have to. That's number one.
Number two, the diet is very very important. I learned
from my own gut microbiome the type of diet was
keeping me healthier and happier and also reducing my chance.
So inflammation in my body. We know inflammation is making
us age faster. Many disease are linked to inflammation and

(47:39):
foods are linked to inflammation. So when I learned it,
I start to practice that. My wibe die teasan so
she helped me along the way. So that's what we
able to create these patterns, these innovations, and they are
there and it hurts me. It pains me that technology
we have today and the people don't have an access.
Give you one example, so genome sequencing the whole genome

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data and we made it one of the cheapest hold
you noom sequencing in Western Hanmi sphere in from Calgary lab,
people can access any time from a drop of a blood,
they can get a whole genome sequence in much much
more affordable what was happening in my own lab. It
took my company three months to analyze my whole genome,
being the first in my lab, and then then aeralize that. Globally,

(48:25):
people are not not getting the report for wee one month,
two months, and people have no idea what is happening
in their life. So we built a technology word's fastest
genomic platform called panamic is an AI power. What it
does it it does a real time analysis of one
hundred GP data one DN is one hundred GIP data
and you can add on brillions of data sets from microbiome, imaging, hormones.

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So what does is a brilliant, amazing mind we have
created in Calgary from Canada. We are the only company
globally it can do analysis in five minutes a report
a lab the America hour in Canada from some other
lab company, it will take you one two months to
can report using the Epanomen technology which we unveiled in
Silicon Valley last month and people saw that hands on

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how fast is the data coming in? So we are
today at a cusp where we can start delivering it
to people. So I'm glad with the new US administration
they're pushing the limit. We have the technologies.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
What we have to do now is give it in
the hands of the.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
People, the doctors, the nurses, so they can take the
right call when it matters.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
How accurate is the AI program versus those traditional results.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Thank you so much for asking this question. If you
google Biovaro bio ar. Last year we achieved something under
something remarkable. Usually what happened is there's a labs genetic
testing labs across the world. It's a well published literature.
They say when you are matching data, say for seeing
human data, you take it from one lab and sequence

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another lab. If you imagined by ninety to ninety five
percent between the lab interpretation, it's a good standards considered
as per College of American Pathology. So it was a
all entered program. So we asked our team to reach
out to camp College of American Pathologists, get a WGS sample,
holding on sample, and do an analysis through an AI

(50:21):
and see how accurate this report comes back. Though maybe
THEI is wrong the interpretation data we have in Calvary Lab.
So we got the sample. They didn't share any history
with us, didn't tell us a man or a woman,
or ethnicity, or a past medical history or the drug
they're using. This stand as a sample. We ran the
sample through our lab, through our the AI algorithms, and

(50:43):
we share report with CAMP last year and the report
came back to us. When we're opening the report, it's
a truthful I was telling my team that, hey, we
are ninety percent match. Will be so happy that we
achieved something really really cool in science when we open that.
When the work came to us, it was one hundred
percent match. Think of this way. One genome has a

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three billion base payer over eight billion possibilities of a
variation being called out wrong. Our AI did not call
a single false positive or a single false negative. It
was such an amazing, unbelievable news that came out. We
had to send a press release. Ask my scientific team
global in Europe and in America. They said, are you

(51:28):
sure it is? It is true? They said more, we
have never heard that any lap can match one hundred
percent with the whole genome sequencing with a CAB. It's
so rare to occur to happen. So we achieved that singularity.
We keep that accuracy there. Now we have to empower people,
giving people's hand. That's the task we have to do today.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Well, I put on the blog, I got a lot
of people sending questions. Do you have a book? That's
a question I just got you.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Have a book, Doctor Kafore, thank you for asking you
about magicians. You're in in my mind and my listeners.
We didn't prepare this question. I had no idea. So yes,
we have books coming up. It's called Eternal Life. The
book has been written and the second book will be
coming all be called Becoming God. How we can become
a perfect how we can be consistent strong mentally, and

(52:16):
so those books will be coming out later. The HC.
Eternal Life will be the first one and the second
will be the Becoming God. So those two books have
been written already, and right now my team is talking
to publishers and we look into getting people's hand as
soon as possible.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Well, I've also linked on the blog today at your
Facebook page or Twitter page or Instagram, so people want
to follow you and get more information about what you do.
I do have this last question, and we only have
like a minute left, doctor Kopor. So, can courtisol be
measured because you mentioned cortisol at the beginning of this interview, Yes.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Cortesong can easily measure through your saliva testing, through your
blood testing. Usually early in the morning. We should be
measuring it afternoon. Late evening is not a good accurate measurement.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Okay, you just watch when you wake up in the
morning is when you want to measure it exactly, all right,
doctor Kapor. You can find all of his ways to
follow him and learn more and find out about bio
Aura on the blog today at Mandy's blog dot com.
Doctor Kapor, thank you so much for your time, mate.
This is a fascinating conversation, I mean, a really fascinating conversation,
and I look forward I'm going to be reading more
about what you guys are doing. I think it's super interesting.

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Thank you for making time today.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
All Right, have a great day.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
You know, this is the kind of stuff we are
so close to being able to have truly personalized medical plans.
You know, a rod may go to the doctor and
they may draw blood and they'll get his panel back
and they'll say, Okay, Anthony, this is.

Speaker 9 (53:39):
What you need to do.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
You need to work out in this fashion. You know,
cardio is what you.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Need to do, or lifting weights, or or you need
to eat this. I mean, I'm excited about that, not
that I won't ever eat something that's not on my
list because the life would be super boring. But wouldn't
it be cool to know exactly because I mean, everybody
knows that friend of Italian heritage that can eat pasta
every day and never gain a pound. I am not

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that person genetically. That person has something I don't have.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
But wouldn't it be cool to be able to like
drill down so you could stay in the best health
possible just by making sure you're taking care of yourself, right.
I just it is a wonderful time to be alive
medically right now. I mean, it's not all sunshine and roses, but.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Man, some of the stuff that's happening with Ai is
just so interesting, so incredibly interesting.

Speaker 6 (54:31):
So yeah, you can follow him. Very interesting guy.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
So that is.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
I think I want to have my genome sequenced with that?

Speaker 9 (54:42):
What do you do with that? I mean, what do you?

Speaker 6 (54:45):
I mean, what would you do with that?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Ay?

Speaker 11 (54:46):
Roy?

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Would you ever have your genome sequence so you know
exactly what makes you up?

Speaker 9 (54:51):
Yeah? Why not?

Speaker 6 (54:52):
I think it'd be kind of cool. I think it'd
be really neat.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
And you know, my fitbit says I'm fifty three and
a half other than fifty five, So I could, you know,
get that down a little bit further, because I live
for those days. Is it Anthony or Anthrony? It is
not Anthrony, not Anthrony. It is Anthony baby talk.

Speaker 9 (55:15):
Who is a.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
Name?

Speaker 6 (55:18):
Oh yeah, I guess, so I didn't know that was
the thing. Perhaps, Yes, Okay.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
When we get back, I got a bunch of stuff
on the blog that I want to get to. But
you know, earlier in the show, I was talking about
where President Trump was doing something I liked with Ukraine,
which is working to get some money out of that
deal in the Forum of Rare Mineral Contracts. And then
I talked about something that I that Trump is doing
that I don't like. I got another don't like, and

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this one may upset some people, but I see things
happening on the right when it comes to trans adults
that makes me very unhappy and very uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (55:51):
We're going to do that next.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
You know, as important as I truly believe it is
to protect children from medical interventions that are gender related
until they are old enough to understand exactly what they're doing,
and that would be the age of legal adulthood.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
That's eighteen years old. I've been very vocal about this.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
I'm very vocal about protecting girls' sports from trans women
who went through male puberty because there's a physical unfair
advantage there that is insurmountable.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
Been very vocal about that as well.

Speaker 9 (56:29):
Well.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
What's happening now in the Trump administration has me, honestly
kind of perplexed, and it's like the movement has gone
beyond where I think it should go because I believe
in freedom. Now, freedom for children is one thing, because
children do not have the brain development to have the

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ability to understand some of the consequences of the choices
they may make, and that's why they can't sign contracts
or get face tattoos or demand of a sectomy at seventeen.
There's reasons that we prevent children from being able to
make those big decisions, and for some reason, all of
that has been thrown out the window when it comes
to people who believe that they are born in the

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wrong body. So we can have a sense of agreement
that I don't think that children should be subject to
by the way medical experiments. We don't have long term
data on this as of yet. When it comes to
the use of puberty blockers for very young children and
the long term ramifications. This is all experimentation. So I
am firmly against all of that. But then let's talk

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about trans adults for a moment. Because I believe in freedom.
I believe that anyone should have the right to pursue
the life that they want to pursue that makes them happy.
And if that involves extreme physical changes like plastic surgery
to make you more closely resemble someone of the opposite sex,
more power to you. I support you in your quest.

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I don't want to pay for it, I really don't.
But other than that, I want you to live the
best life you can lead.

Speaker 6 (58:03):
I whatever you want to do is fine with me.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
And when Trump came out and essentially said, look, you
know what, We're not accepting any more trans recruits into
the military, I thought, okay, you know, perhaps.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
It's a question of deployability.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Then I started doing some digging, and there are lots
of trans service members who have deployed multiple times post transition,
so that kind of throws that out the window. Not
to mention, there are a lot of people who are
not trans in the military who are coming to the
defense of trans members of the military who are serving
honorably and doing their job well and have had no

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issues whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
And I'm wondering, what are we doing here? Do you
believe in freedom or not? Because I do.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I do.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
I think that if you want to go have your
face rebuilt and make it look exactly like Kim Kardashian,
I think it's stupid.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
But you can do whatever you want as long as
you're an adult.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
But then I hear more and more people on the
right sort of using this opportunity to dunk on the
trans community. You know, I think there are trans people
out there who have significant mental health issues, but I
think there are trans people out there who don't, who
just seem to have been born with the conviction that
they were born in the wrong body. And ultimately, every

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trans person.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Whether they have significant mental issues or not, it's still
a human being. I don't like the This is one
of the reasons I don't like Trump.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
I mean, personally love with some of the stuff he's
doing right now, but personally don't. I don't want a
prison who's trying to dunk. And I don't know if
I missed this in the campaign or if I was
willfully ignorant.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
I thought we were talking about kids.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
I thought we were talking about medical interventions on children,
not going after people who are adults who have made.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
Their own choices.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
You know, if you're an adult and you decide to
have clastic surgery to make yourself look like a lizard,
and there are people who've actually done this, I'm not
just making this up. There's a person or two out
there who really have gone to all these links to
look like a lizard. I mean, I think that's weird
as hell, but I'm not about to tell that person.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
You can't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Because I believe in freedom. And when it comes to
serving in the military, one thing that seems to have
worked out okay is allowing gay people to serve openly.
I don't think there's been a huge problem in the military,
So I'm just curious about that. Is it just me
am I seeing too much into this, or has the
discussion shifted now that adults can't make their own decisions,

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and that military members who are volunteered to serve in
the military and have served honorably and are doing a
good job and are supported by their teams and the
men and women they serve with I'm confused by that, Honestly,
I truly am.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
Now I know that the argument is being made.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Well, Biden kicked out people who wouldn't get the COVID shot.
What does one have to do with the other? I mean,
are we just doing this to be vindictive and spiteful
over COVID people who had nothing to do? I mean,
I don't understand that line of argument, as if they
are connected, they shouldn't be. But I'm just curious if

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anyone else has noticed this, or if anyone else feels
discomfort about the fact that we are now going after
adults who can.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
Make their own choices. Mandy, as long as we the
people don't pay for it, I say, live and let live.

Speaker 9 (01:01:32):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Trans surgery is expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
If the deranged can pay cash, great, Otherwise we will
pay either through taxes or higher insurance rates. I am
opposed to mandates. I'm opposed to insurance mandates period. I
think you should be able to buy a policy that
is just catastrophic coverage if you get whatever, and then
you can pay cash for the rest of it. If
that's what you want to do, I think that's what

(01:01:55):
insurance should do. So to be clear, I'm against insurance
mandates because this texture is right, but it's also IVF.
You know, it's also fertility treatments that are very expensive.
It's also certain kinds of cancer treatments that are extremely expensive.
So I am against mandates across the board. Mandy Trump

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never once said adults can't transition, But the DoD should
not be used for paying for lifetime patients. Have you
said before not to mention ninety percent of those people
have underlying mental illness. No, the American taxpayer should not
be paying for sex changes. And why have we all
of a sudden gotten a huge influx of trans people.
I do think there is a trans media happening right now,

(01:02:36):
especially with kids, where it's.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Not interesting to just be a straight kid.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
You have to have some kind of special moniker that
you attached to yourself in order.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
To stand out in high school. I'm telling you that
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
I mean, the number of kids who say they're on
some kind of gender spectrum now.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
And I school is ridiculous. And guess what. Overwhelmingly all
of those kids are going to grow up to marry
someone of the opposite sex and have perfectly normal lives
and just look back on that and go, yeah, it's
kind of like why I was a vegan. I was
a vegan.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
I was a vegetarian for eighteen months. I was a
vegan for six of those. Do you know why because
all my friends are doing it. There's no great philosophical
thing or health reason. It was like, no, all my
friends are doing And one day I was like, that's it,
I'm going to get a burger and my other friend
was like, I'm going with you, so, you know, and
I understand saying I don't want to pay for it.

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I don't want to pay for that, But does that
mean that we don't pay for lung cancer treatments for
soldiers who smoke? I mean, where do you draw the
line on a lifestyle choice?

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
And I'm really just.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Playing Devil's advocat here because I think that's a valid concern.

Speaker 12 (01:03:50):
I really do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
I think that's a valid thing to ask about, Like,
how are you going to do that? Is that why
you're joining military? Because that they there are people who
are drawing to the military just for the things that
they can get out of the military, not what they
can contribute to the military. You have those people that
are just there to get the GI Bill, and it
shows I actually think the GI Bill and other benefits

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like that, you should be required to achieve a certain
rank by the time you get out, and it doesn't
need to be like a super high rank. But if
you remain a private first class for your whole tour,
uh huh, No, you put nothing in. But that's a
whole story for another time.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
I'm happy about it, but I'm wondering why the Rockies
didn't preempt you today. Well, we don't have to air
every spring training game, but we will be airing a
spring training game tomorrow and Wednesday, so we will have
a shortened show both of those days.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
It's begun. It is begun, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
I grew up around military family, all kinds of friends
and family in the military. I've heard completely different on
homosexuals and transgender in the military. There's always been that
thing that comes up about training accidents. These guys don't
want to be in the showers with these people. They
don't want to be in a foxhold with these people.
They don't want to be in a bunk with them.
That's just what I've heard that could very well be true,

(01:05:14):
very well could be true. But I don't know if
that's necessarily indicative of every single transgender or gay member
of the military.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
I don't know, military folks. I got Fort Carson, I
got Buckley right up the road. What do you think
five six six nine.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Oh, I'm not going to rat you out, but I'll
read the answers on the air when we get back.
I specifically asked military folks. I got a lot of veterans,
I got active duty that listen to this show. What
are your thoughts on serving with a trans member or
even a game member? And I'm not going to out anybody,
so please be honest. This texture was female military personnel.

(01:05:49):
My thoughts on trans deploying military. I've often deployed where
we either had the identity base showers, open bay latrine,
and for female aircrew, female.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Segregated living quarters.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Just as I don't want biological males in my changing room,
public bathrooms are showers, I don't want them in a
shared living space where I use the restroom, shower, and sleep.
There were issues enough with integrating while living in tense
cities in the desert. If I had to deal with
men who have a transition or identified as women, that
would have been awful. Also, what pete standards to biological
men who transition have to meet my standard or the

(01:06:22):
male standard. Sorry, I don't support formally biological men and
women's spaces at all, deployed or stateside.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
So there you go, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
When you say I'll be honest with you, does that
mean you've been dishonest up to that point in your discussion?
Perhaps Candid or Frank would be more honest or more accurate. Please,
no response point taken. But I'm telling you, guys, it's
hard to do fifteen hours of talk radio. Just off
the cuff and keep yourself interesting and hopefully entertaining.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
Mandy be gone.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
If flat feet and over underweight can bar to enlist me,
surely a mental disorder like gender dysphoria can also prevent service.
Service is not a right, rather, it is a privilege.
So join the Peace Corps. Okay, Mandy, I've been in
for twenty years. I don't care if they're gay trends
or whatever. Do your job, don't be an asked, then
we're good. Mandy active here, it's an expensive distraction from

(01:07:19):
our mission. I have stronger thoughts than that regarding service
of those with a diagnosed mental condition.

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
But that's the bottom line, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
As long as we're texting, aren't paying for as long wait,
so long as we aren't paying for their change, then
let them serve. Uh, Mandy, you mentioned baseball. I can
hardly wait for this year's edition of a bunch of
guys in the club who are looking to prove the
critics wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
Got a lot of your talent in the bullpen, wondering
if it's statistically possible for them to lose more than
they did last year. I know, I know you guys.
I'm trying so hard. I want to be hopeful. Here's
one tired air force.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
The military shouldn't allow a person with lung cancer and
to enter service. Trans and military are essentially entering with
a medical condition. As far as non deployable or civilian
member of the military, it might be a different story.
As far as non military. Any adult can do what
they want. Very interesting choices.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
This is why I asked. You know, from the outside
looking in, it's easy to make a choice. But here's
the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
I want my fighting force to be the best fighting
force in the world, and anything that distracts from that
mission has to go. And that means all that diversity,
equity inclusion crap has to go. And if this truly
is that much of a distraction, then maybe it is
just Pete Hegseth actually listening.

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
I don't know. I don't know it just it caught
me off guard. I'm not gonna lie, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
I'm not sure where you got the figure of one
million dead in the Ukraine War, but the Washington Post,
while admitting it maybe an underestimate, puts it at one
hundred and fifty three thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
Well, you know what, Texter, I don't know, to tell
you the.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
Truth, I thought I saw that number this morning in
an article that I read on the BBC.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
But I must have been wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
I will check on the break, but I don't doubt
your correction, and I apologize for that seemed like a high.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
Number to me.

Speaker 9 (01:09:17):
Manby.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
I'm conflicted on many levels here.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
I have no issue with trans women that is the
black Hawk moin a minute, just updated here. I'm conflicted
on many levels here. I have no issue with the
trans woman that is the black Hawk helicopter pilot. However,
she did a nose job, and I'm concerned that our
children might have a big nose.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
Okay, stop. Stop it right now, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
If you want to blame smoking for cancer, then you
should have pose transurgery as well, due to the cancer
that comes from the massive amount of hormones you have
to be on for the rest of your life. I
was making a point on that, by the way, fascinating stat.
Now I'm not going to give that stat now, I'm
questioning my stat knowledge after my egregious error about the

(01:10:01):
number of dead in the Ukraine War. Sad that we're
sitting here going only one hundred and fifty three thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
Though, isn't it. War is so stupid. War is just dumb.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
It's so pointless and so idiotic in a modern society.
It just feels barbaric and caveman like. No offense to cavemen.
Just dumb, Mandy. The Rockies are currently mathematically out of
the World Series.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
Stop it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Just started spring training. Stop it, Mandy. What would Mash
have been without Clinger? It didn't work for Clinger back then.
I'm just throwing that out there, Mandy. My brother's a
medic in the Air Force. He says, it's important to
know for sure what gender he's providing aid to.

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
Yes, yes, indeed, yes, indeed when we get back.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
Oh my gosh, you guys, I have so much stuff
on the blog that we haven't even like, we haven't
even touched. Oh you know what we're talking about when
we get back a rod.

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
How many more Oscar movies have you watched?

Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
None, because none of the other ones are like streaming anywhere.
Like I watched all the availas.

Speaker 6 (01:11:07):
Do you watch Conclave?

Speaker 8 (01:11:08):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:11:09):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
I thought it was really good. Oscars are wide open
right now.

Speaker 7 (01:11:12):
I know it's sad, but makes it interesting because the
pope currently is in critical condition, very very good.

Speaker 6 (01:11:19):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
I was like, if you want to know what's about
to happen, go watch Conclave. We're gonna talk The oscars
are kind of wide open, and everybody's making fun of
the fact.

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
That no one's seen these movies. But y'all they're good.
They're really good movies. This year. We'll talk about it next.

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Speaker 6 (01:11:58):
Welcome up. Then to the third hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
I'm your host for the next fifty four minutes and
change Mandy Colinel that over there is Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
We call him Ay Rod. No airworm today.

Speaker 8 (01:12:10):
One forer day. I'm nice, Okay, well no.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
Earlier some guy accused me on the text line of
taking away the airhorn, and I said, I do nothing
of the sort.

Speaker 9 (01:12:23):
Let me do a.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
Let me do a little update about the casualty numbers
for the Ukraine War.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
This is from Newsweek. Okay, this came out in Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
I'm trying to find a date February nineteenth of twenty
twenty five, and I want to share.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
This with you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
Since Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine on February twenty
twenty two, combat and civilian losses have steadily climbed. The
President said in February of twenty twenty four that thirty
one thousand Ukrainian soldiers had been killed, though external estimates
suggest the figure may be significantly higher. A confidential Ukrainian

(01:13:03):
assessment earlier in twenty twenty four placed Ukrainian troop losses
at eighty thousand killed and four hundred thousand wounded. According
to the International Institute for Strategic Studies. Russia has suffered
massive casualties since its full scale invasion in twenty twenty two.
Estimates suggests that more than eight hundred thousand Russian soldiers

(01:13:25):
have been killed or severely wounded, making this one of
the deadliest conflicts for Russia since World War II. The
report indicates that Russian forces have relied on poorly trained
recruits and convicts to sustain their offensive operations, leading to
exceptionally high casualty rates. Despite the losses, Russia obviously has
continued its full scale assault. So I don't know what

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the truth is, but I think that's where I got
the million numbers. Somebody obviously grabbed these. I didn't get
it from the story. We'll have to wait until after
the war is over and history is written to find
out how many people actually die.

Speaker 9 (01:14:01):
If you need.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
The lyrics to the song, I get this on the
text line all the time. They're too long to respond
in a text. You can email me Mandy Connell at
iHeartMedia dot com and I'll be happy to send you
the lyrics to the song. So, Mandy Conclave, getting back
to our Oscar conversation that we haven't had yet was infuriating,

(01:14:25):
bait and switch, great cinematography and acting, suspense, intention and
then fizzle, social issues conclusions so disappointing. I loved Conclave
and the reason I want to talk about this, and
we're only going to do this for a few minutes.
If you haven't seen any of the Oscar movies, I'm
trying to see him A. Rod's seen more of them
than I have. And after years of.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
Being disappointed and bored as hell at a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
Of Oscar movies, I got to tell you, all the
movies I've seen have been.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
Really good, really really good. I loved Amelia Perez. It's weird,
it's got a very very strange opera like story, but
it's beautifully executed. I mean, just beautifully done. But then Conclave.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Conclave has to be the largest selection of heavy hitting
male actors in sometime, and it delivers.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
And the twist at the end. You can call it
social commentary, you can call it whatever it is. I
don't care. I loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
I thought it was fantastic, absolutely fantastic. Love the whole thing. Hey, Rod,
what's your favorite.

Speaker 8 (01:15:29):
Right now that you have seen It's got to be
a Milia praise.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
It's just so perfect and different and out there, and
again my best criticism, if you will. There's no other
movie I can think of where I don't mind that
the singing's bad, and that's a compliment because it's supposed
to be, because these are normal people cry singing their
emotions like. It's like, that's what normal people crying and

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singing about it will sound like.

Speaker 8 (01:15:55):
And it's just exceptional.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
It's so interesting and different and a stunningly good movie.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
Stunningly good movie.

Speaker 8 (01:16:02):
But you won't see the other different one that's up
for Best Picture. Yeah, the substance, And this is substance.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
My best friend Barb said, and she she was a
theater major with me in college. She's much more talented
in that respect than I ever was. And she said, Mandy,
this is the most incredible movie that is so gory.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
You will never make it all the way through. That's
what she said to me. I'm like, okay, that's that's
I don't do gore.

Speaker 10 (01:16:26):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
My close friends know this. They don't even try to
get me to watch. It makes me physically ill, like
I'm I'm the puker in the audience, and from what
I understand, this is puke worthy.

Speaker 7 (01:16:36):
Well, this definitely is not the time I should tell you.
It's the gorious movie I've ever watched, and I've watched
a lot. You're a horror movie guy, and Matt tells
you something, yes, So what is the premise of the substance? Like,
without spoilers, what is the premise? So Demi Moore plays
essentially a TV star, like a workout TV star, right,
like everyone watches her to do the workouts, but also
very you know, scandalous and what she wears and like

(01:16:59):
the movements and whatnot. She gets too old, as the
TV network believes, and so for her to kind of
stay in the game and not get booted out, she
essentially volunteers for this really experimental, really shady uh program
that she basically injects herself. I won't tell you exactly

(01:17:21):
what happens because that's spoiler, but essentially it allows her
to continue in some shape or form in a much
younger way. It's an anti aging situation and kind of
but the twist of how it gets there is really weird,
and then it gets grotesque, and then it gets I mean, seriously,
we were at the end, like, what in the.

Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
Holy hell did we just watch, but holy hell.

Speaker 9 (01:17:45):
It was so good.

Speaker 8 (01:17:46):
If Demi.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
I'm telling you if Demi, if Demi does not win
Best Actress, discontinue the award.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
That she is my far the fan favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Dan.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
These Hollywood actresses, guys, they're all on ozempic and they
are all so skinny. It's it's not even it's getting ridiculous.
Selena Gomez is down like forty pounds in three months.
Too great, We'll talk about sneaking Nomaz. Yeah, Demi is
sixty two.

Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
And that the movie plays into it and it's so meta,
it's it's fantastic.

Speaker 9 (01:18:16):
I just am not.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
How can people watch the substance someone on the common
spirit He test test is not all the movies are
available in streaming. And this is where A Rod and
I are having a problem because frustrating the Brutalist, which
is supposed to be amazing Starry Adrian Brody and I
really want to see this because I wanted to.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
It's it's about a.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
Hungarian architect and and a half those are my people.
It has an intermission, but three and a half hours
on Prime.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
It's on Prime.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
You know what else is on Prime right now? The
new season of Reacher holy crap. The first three episodes
are out. And I am not exaggerating when I say
in every single episode of this season of Reacher, I
have had a.

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
Moment where I've been like, oh my god, every single.

Speaker 7 (01:19:01):
Episode season three, right, Yes, I just saw the main actor,
Alan Richson that he was like season two is not good. Yeah,
in terms of him out, like the way that it
is shot.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
Well, let me tell you something. Everything Season three.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
Has arrived and it is who And I'm just gonna
say it, like in one of the episodes, Alan Richson
is in his underwear and that alone is worth watching
the entire series.

Speaker 7 (01:19:26):
We're a little locked down watching Better Call Saul right now,
just finish suits because now suits La just came out,
So we're a little we're a little busy with shows.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
This person says bad singing trans and subtitles. How could
it get any better? I'm telling you, I didn't know
what to expect with Amelia Perez. It defied any expectation
that I had, and it was really really well done.

Speaker 8 (01:19:48):
If the only thing you have seen on any social
media is that.

Speaker 7 (01:19:51):
One song, we all know which one we're talking about
about talking about sex changes, do not let you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:56):
Tell you that is one thing in the movie, and yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:20:00):
One minute long. It is not representative of the movie.
It's it's weird. It's got that weird like that to it.
But don't let the turkey.

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
It's super good.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Okay, when we get back. I am in favor of
making government bigger. So I shocked you didn't I yeah, well,
I'll tell you why and what situation and why when
we get back. Mandy eavesdropping on a conversation of an
at home FDA worker. They are so confused hearing things
from the news first and think they should just reply
because they have plenty of work to show. But higher
up's last email was don't reply. This is talking about

(01:20:33):
the email that Elon Musk sent.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
Out over the weekend that I gotta tell you. I laughed.
I mean I I laughed really hard.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
About the reaction of government workers when being asked to
tell people five things they did last week, and they
were like, that is beyond the pale. I mean, don't
get me wrong, that would drive me crazy. That kind
of micromanagement. No way, Nope, not gonna do it, not
gonna participate. But if my boss right now came to
me and said Mandy, what did you do last week?

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I could tell you five things I did last week.
And my job's weird, right, I mean, my job is strange.
I don't have a normal job like other people do,
where you have goals and deadlines.

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
It's just strange. Anyway, I've got a story. I got
to get this in because we've got Dick.

Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
Wadams coming up to the bottom of the hour and
we're going to talk about some bad stuff happening with
the Republicans. But first, I don't think I've ever advocated
for bigger government in my entire lifetime, and I mean that.
But there's a bill in the legislature right now that
I could get behind, simply because I live in a
county that is now being represented by three people, two

(01:21:37):
of whom that I don't trust at all, and the
other one is an unknown.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
Quantity at this moment.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
The bill we're to require counties with a certain population,
and I believe the population has been changed to two
hundred and fifty thousand to then have five commissioners on
county commission So this would affect Douglas, Larimer, Jefferson, and
Boulder counties. They would have to expand their County commissions

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to five members. I am never in favor of bigger government.
But see my aforementioned comments about.

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
Only you know on a three person board.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
We watched this happen as Laura Thomas tried to draw
attention to things that she didn't think we're good for
Douglas County, and we saw the other two shut her down.
And I am actually going to say I am one
hundred percent in favor for this because right now we've
got board members. I don't know where the third one
in Douglas County lives, but two of them live in

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Highlands Ranch as far as I know, so they're not
representing the rest of the massive county.

Speaker 9 (01:22:43):
That we have.

Speaker 6 (01:22:44):
So there you go. Mandy Reacher is profane as you
know what. So okay, there you go. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
It's a good question about Reacher because in the books
there is no foul language, but plenty of violence.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
I've only read a couple Reacher books, just enough to
be annoyed by Tom Cruise as Reacher, because Reacher's supposed
to be this massive, hulking person like Alan Richson, and
Tom Cruise has none of those things. I mean, he's
an action star, but dude is tiny. He's little that
didn't play anyway. This is the one time I'm looking

(01:23:25):
for an expansion of government, so I hope this bill
gets a hearing. I don't think it's going to get passed.
Bob Marshall is the guy who put it forth. This
is the third year he's put it forth. But this
year he increased the threshold to two hundred and fifty thousand,
So maybe it will I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
We'll see, but let it be known this is the
only time, but.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
Only because it's been demonstrated how easily that three person
board can be manipulated for those who are interested more
in their own power and self aggrandizement than actually serving
their people. Dick Wadhams a long time GEOPI stra just
is joining me. He's got to call him. I don't
know if it was yesterday or today.

Speaker 6 (01:24:04):
I saw it today. It is linked on the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com and the.

Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
Headline Bagdad Bob lives on in State GOP's Oblivious Leadership,
and in it he discusses his love and affection for
the leadership of the Colorado Republican Party. Now JK Dick Wadhams,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (01:24:26):
Hi.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
Hell you know, Dick, I feel like every time I
talk to you like some new fresh hell has occurred.
And over the weekend I was chatting with some people
that were well connected in party politics, and they laid
out a scenario that seems pretty realistic that Dave william Shenanigan,
most recently in Weld County, is going to allow him

(01:24:49):
to lock up enough votes to vote themselves out of
the primary. Do you know anything about this? Am I
on the right track? Or please tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 11 (01:24:59):
I wish I could tell you you were wrong, Mandy,
But just anecdotally, I've had enough conversations with people around
the state that it seems like that supporters of Dave
Williams have done very well in county officer elections, especially
the large counties. One exception to that has been Weld County,

(01:25:19):
which elected a solid slade of Republican leaders who do
not favor him. But now he's trying to take over
Well County by essentially declaring those elections as nell and
void and insisting and demanding that there be a new
election for bonus members that he would run the state

(01:25:41):
party would run. So it doesn't stretch the imagination to
think that he wants to take over that because he
thinks he is close to seventy five percent to cancel
the primary.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
On what grounds?

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
Did he decide to nullify the Reork meeting that Well
County just had.

Speaker 11 (01:26:00):
Well, I'm not as familiar with the bylaws of the
party is that as I used to be obviously when
I was state chairman a long time ago. But apparently
there is some provision on some controversy if a controversy exists.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
That the.

Speaker 11 (01:26:17):
State Central Committee can you can settle that controversy. I
think he's overstepping his bounds on this. They had an
election in Nowell County as a very responsible group of
people who ran and won up there, and it's just
but it's typical Mandy. I mean, anybody who crosses him,
he thinks he's at liberty to try to destroy I mean,

(01:26:40):
look at what he did in the primary elections against
Republican candidates and spending party money against Republicans. This guy knows,
he knows no ethics, he knows no bylaws, he knows
no laws that he cannot used to his advantage.

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
Well, I was shocked to find out Lauren Bibert's rhino.
Now that's fun and new because she dared to push
back against him. I guess in the ridiculous meeting he
had to have to try and change the rules now,
Dick for people who are not Republicans, who are not unaffiliated.
At the beginning of the show, I went on to
quite a tear because I think that a couple of

(01:27:17):
things could immediately happen. Right, if they vote themselves out
of the primary system, that means Republican candidates will be
chosen at the sparsely attended by a tiny fraction of
Republicans assembly process, right, and none of our Yeah, the
only one of our current members of Congress that was
supported by the Colorado GP is Lauren Bobert, and now

(01:27:40):
she's out of favor. So in theory, they could nominate
for completely different Republicans to go after those seats, even
though we are currently holding those seats.

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
That's not a crazy thing to suppose at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Is it.

Speaker 11 (01:27:55):
No, it is not many. In fact, I think that
is ultimately his goal, that the caucuses will be attended by,
as you point out, a very small number of people,
rather than hundreds of thousands of people voting in a primary,
you're going to have a few thousand people go to
caucuses and in hate fields. And he's probably right that

(01:28:18):
he would have a strong advantage there and he would
want to knock off Jeff Heard in the Grand Junction,
gave Evans in the eighth district, Jeff Crank in card Springs.
And I think that and now that Bobert has challenged him,
probably take on her in the fourth district.

Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
What And I'm asking you to guests here, I want
you to try and put on your window into Dave
William's head on this next question. When he and his
chosen candidates could not even get out of the primary,
what makes him think that they would have won a
general election?

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
VNDY.

Speaker 11 (01:28:55):
That is the question I have wondered about for some time.
Colorado has always been a competitive state. It's always been
hard for Republicans to win congressional races and also state
wide races. It's gotten harder because the electorate has become
more has become or more liberal. And now I'm not
sure it's going to permanently be that way, but right

(01:29:16):
now it is. I don't understand why they think that
a Ron Hanks could win a congressional seat in Grand
Junction and districtor or doctor Joshi in the eighth that
they but when it really comes down to it, Mandy,
they really don't care about winning the general election in
many ways, they just care about making the party as
pure as it can be in their image. That is

(01:29:39):
their ultimately goal.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Well, I mean, Dick, what we're talking about here could
be control of the House. And this is not a
no repercussions. We should just let them crash and burn
situation because the lead in the House, and you know
that Republicans are going to lose seats in the midterms,
because that's what happens, Okay, the party in power loses
seats in the midterms. This could contribute in a very
significant way to losing the House. And and that is

(01:30:01):
something that I want people to be concerned about. And
and secondarily, but even more important in the grand scheme
of my life, we would then turn over even greater
control in Colorado to the Democratic Party.

Speaker 6 (01:30:15):
I feel like that would be a no brainer.

Speaker 11 (01:30:19):
Mandy, There's no doubt. And and and I've got to
say gave Evans, who ran a magnificent campaign after being
challenged and and and and and attacked by Dave Williams
in the primary. Gave Evans went on to win a
tough general election campaign because he's a great candidate who
ran a great campaign. Same thing with Jeff ERDs in
the third district. But both of those guys would be

(01:30:42):
in danger if if if we abolished the primary, and uh,
and we would lose those seats. Those two seats are roam.
Mandy could lose the entire control of the US counsel
representatives and and these are things.

Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
And you know, we can talk about the fourth congressional district.
It is not nearly as Republicans safe as it used
to be. But in the eighth that I talked about
this in the beginning of the show, that district I
think is going to be in play for either party
for the foreseeable future. Right, that is going to be
a toss up district. You cannot run a hard right
carpetbagger and expect to win that district. It's absurd on

(01:31:18):
the face of it. Why don't they see that.

Speaker 11 (01:31:23):
They don't believe it, they think, you know what's interesting, Mandy,
I don't know how many times I've heard people say well,
we would win elections if we just nominated people more
like Trump. Well, let's see here. Trump lost to Kamala
Harris by eleven, he lost by fourteen, the Biden he
lost by Ford to Hillary Clinton. You can't get more

(01:31:45):
Trump like than Trump himself. And he has never come
close to winning Colorado, and yet the Dave Williams crowd
once Republican candidates to emulate him in this state. Now,
I'm not saying we need to nominate a bunch of
liberal repubbliclkins, but why don't we nominate it? Like we
need to nominate smart Republicans by Jeff Hurt, Yeah, Gate Evans,

(01:32:07):
by Jeff Crank, Like Bill Owens was right, Wwayne Albert
was rank Brown? What right Corey Gardner? What Corey went
down because of the anti Trump sentiment. But I mean,
you look at the kind of Republicans who have won
in the state. They were conservatives, but they were smart conservatives. Yeah,
it didn't go off on a bunch of crap that
the un affiliated voters didn't like.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
Well, let me ask you this question, because somebody asked
this earlier when I was going on my tear that
people can go back and listen to the podcast here
because I.

Speaker 6 (01:32:34):
Got to say it was a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
But somebody said, is there any way for rank and
file Republicans who are not involved in this party?

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Nonsense, but are in the party.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Can they reach out to the national RNC and what
if anything could be done by the national organization.

Speaker 11 (01:32:51):
That's a good question, Mandy. The the RNC doesn't like
to get involved in states a republic can party issues,
I mean, because you know, the fact is that every
state elects of their own leadership, and uh, the RNC
is reluctant to do that. Now there is a precedent
for it. However, in Michigan two or three years ago,

(01:33:13):
there was a very incompetent person elected Michigan state chairman
and then she was challenged and was defeated when she
ran for re election, and there was she refused to
step down. In that case, the rn C did step
in and they actually replaced her with the with the

(01:33:34):
person who beat her. This was not comparable exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
But I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:33:41):
I don't know that the rn C would get involved.
But they've got to be concerned, Mandy, because they know
the call REDA will never be competitive again as long
as we have this kind of stuff going on, am
into that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
Dick Wadhams is my guest. Dick, you know, I'm not
a registered Republican now. I left the party when Dave
Williams was elected chair because I just don't want to
have toplain it. I don't want to have to explain him.
I don't want to have to explain any of it.
There are a lot of people like me out there,
because I get text messages from them all the time.
What can the Republican Party in Colorado do, aside from

(01:34:13):
a place in the leadership. What needs to happen to
get this party focused on the messaging? I mean, Dick,
you can look at the landscape just like I can.
There are so many winnable arguments when it comes to
policy in Colorado where you can make the arguments that
the Republicans have a better answer to high crime, affordability
for housing. I mean, there's a lot of free market

(01:34:34):
solutions and we're not talking about any of that. We're
just talking about this infighting. How do we bring Republicans
like me back to the party.

Speaker 11 (01:34:43):
Well, that brings us, Mandy to an example of optimism
that we should have, and that is the vote in
the twenty twenty three on Proposition AH that would have
raised property taxes that went down not by one or
two points, it went down by twenty points, which tells
me that these unaffiliated voters who have voted voted for

(01:35:04):
Democrats for the last several election cycles, when they're confronted
with a fundamental economic question in front of them, that
they're not they're not confusing their votes with how they
feel about Donald Trump, that they they will say, Okay,
we don't want a property tax increase, which tells me
that if we had Republicans who we were talking about

(01:35:25):
the real issues like the economy, like immigration, like like
the the education, all the issues you and I thought
would talk about, we can win their votes. But when
we start talking about these incessant debates on whether the
election was stolen in twenty twenty or I mean, it's
just and and and Frankly, I will tut, Mandy, the

(01:35:47):
the the pardoning of all the j sixth defendants or
that hurt. That hurts because I think a lot of
people were willing to give the benefit of the doubt,
the people who were just kind of caught up in
a moment, and we're wandering around the Capitol. I think
that Poland shows more than eighty percent of the American
people say that we should not have he should not

(01:36:08):
have pardoned anybody who attacked the police officer or did
damage to the Capitol. And that's that's gonna that's gonna
hurt for a while.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
I think so too.

Speaker 5 (01:36:16):
But I also think Dick, that you and me and
people like us, we still talk about January sixth, but
I think most Americans don't care anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
They've moved on. Well, I'll take that back.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
Left wing Americans are still clinging to it like the
you know, the Titanic, and I think most center people
they don't they don't care anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:36:36):
They've moved on.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
That's like me still being upset that they put a
man who was clearly addled into the White House, Like
who cares now that Joe Biden was completely out.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
Of his faculties? Like move on.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
I think a lot of people are like, bring the
price of eggs down, you know, maybe can you help
me get to where I can afford a house in Colorado?

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
I mean, those are the kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Issues that I think that if we just if we
were focusing to your point, solely on those issues, then
we have a winning argument.

Speaker 11 (01:37:03):
Yeah, I do think that, went Man, I do, and
and we're going to have an opportunity in twenty twenty
sixth to see if that, if the candidates can emerge
for governor and US Senator and Secretary of State and
attorney general and treasurer and then the Congress again, I mean,
if that, if those times the candidates can emerge, we'll see.

Speaker 8 (01:37:22):
How they do.

Speaker 11 (01:37:24):
But that's the only way we're going to get back.
That's once again, I keep going back. That's how we
won in Colorado in the past, nominating smart conservatives who
ran on the right issues, and we haven't had that sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
Yeah, that's that is such a gross understatement. I'm just
going to let that be the punctuation. Mark, Dick Watams,
I appreciate you. And you know the reason I keep
and I keep calling it beating the dead horse on
the show is because I'm hoping that those members of
the Central Committee will listen to anything, just a snippet,
a moment, a brief whatever, and think twice about making

(01:38:01):
what I think would be a suicidal decision for the
Colorado Party to leave the primary system. I think it
is the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen. And
if it happens, I think the party has a really
hard time coming.

Speaker 6 (01:38:15):
Back after that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
All right, that's sick Wadhams. Thanks sick.

Speaker 5 (01:38:20):
We'll talk to you again soon. Sorry, all right, have
a good one. Uh you know today this is exciting.
Ryan Edwards and Ben Albright are at the Combine in Indianapolis. Hey,
Ryan Edwards, is that steakhouse right across from the big Arena?
They're still open? That big steakhouse right there?

Speaker 11 (01:38:39):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:38:40):
Yes, sat Almos, Yes, there you go. It's very favorite.

Speaker 9 (01:38:44):
Get the the face melting. What is it? A shrimp cocktail.

Speaker 12 (01:38:49):
That's what everybody goes there because it's it's just loaded
with horse radish like like so much.

Speaker 6 (01:38:55):
I mean, you know, well you everybody knows that the
best shrimp come from Indiana.

Speaker 9 (01:39:00):
Yes, absolutely, you go Inland. That's what everybody says, you
go Inland. There you go? Yeah, so no, I mean
but it's it's really famous.

Speaker 12 (01:39:08):
I mean, that's that's what everybody goes there, and it's
right of pass it you if your first time coming
to Indianapolis for the NFL Comma, you have to do
that I say, maybe the first couple of times, but
I do not have that on my my Bengo card
this this year.

Speaker 6 (01:39:21):
Is that where people hang out?

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
Is that where like the you know, the media, after
they get done with a day at the Combine like
you guys are doing, did they go over to Saint
Elmo's and just have a have a cold win and
chit chat about what they've seen.

Speaker 12 (01:39:32):
It is a place, yes, it is a very popular place.
There's a couple of bars Prime forty seven. Yeah, that's
more of like late late nights, gotcha.

Speaker 9 (01:39:40):
Then the J W.

Speaker 12 (01:39:41):
Marriott is they have there? Yes, And so that that's
where like all of the big wigs for the NFL stay.
And then there's a uh, there's a bar there at
the in the lobby that everybody.

Speaker 9 (01:39:54):
Goes to it.

Speaker 12 (01:39:55):
And again you got to get there, Oh my gosh,
and I'm so old now you gotta get there probably
like ten eleven o'clock, like on the early side.

Speaker 9 (01:40:03):
Really no, I'm not even kidding. It is so stupid.

Speaker 12 (01:40:06):
But but again, you know when your first first time
coming out here, you're thinking, oh my gosh, this is
so great. I mean, you did that coach, look at
this GM's great. Yeah, and then two o'clock, three o'clock,
four o'clock in the morning comes and you're.

Speaker 8 (01:40:17):
Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 12 (01:40:21):
But now now I'm willing to I'm willing to do
one like I'm willing to get one of those nights in. Yeah,
because they start back up at eight am. The press
conference is all.

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
You can sleep while you're dead.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
You can sleep when you're dead, Ryan Sappi instager was
because now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio of its kine.

Speaker 6 (01:40:44):
Whoa whoa of the day?

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
Well done on remote, Ryan Edwards. Now, Ryan, you do
have a slight disadvantage, so we'll get to that in
a moment. But what is our dad joke of the
day please, Anthony?

Speaker 7 (01:40:56):
Submission from Steve. I caught my son chewing on electrical chords,
so I had to ground him. He's doing better currently
and now conducting himself properly.

Speaker 6 (01:41:11):
Yeah, well done, see well done. What is our word
of the day please?

Speaker 8 (01:41:17):
Oh where did it go? It's a noun and it
is this word echo.

Speaker 6 (01:41:23):
Echo lea wait noun e c h O l A
l I A correct echo lario.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Okay, it's got something to do with sound, correct, and
echoa is the the reverberated sound when you yell into
a valley.

Speaker 8 (01:41:42):
Ryan, she's wrong. So what do you got?

Speaker 6 (01:41:45):
Ohcase like, that's really good.

Speaker 9 (01:41:48):
You know again, maybe yelling into a cave. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:41:51):
Oh, that's the imitation of sounds by babies as they
learned to talk.

Speaker 6 (01:41:57):
H Do you know one of the most universal sounds
in the world is uh oh. Every baby all over
the world says uh oh, and they seem to get
the context at the same time. Isn't that fascinating? Anyway?

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Moving on today's trivia question, what does equal lateral mean?

Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
Equal lateral? You know this from geometry class?

Speaker 8 (01:42:16):
Yeah, that thing. Yeah, it's the one thing that's equal
to being lateral.

Speaker 12 (01:42:20):
To all sides of the triangle or equal triangle.

Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
Wait wait, wait, let me double Jeff after I said
that's okay, Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
It's describes a shape whose sides are all the same length,
So a square or a equilateral triangle they have the
same length.

Speaker 6 (01:42:34):
Okay, there you go. What is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 8 (01:42:38):
Robots and cybords? Oh god, okay, yeah th a okay,
also Ryan, and wait, yes, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
It's not very long, but I am that much better
than you.

Speaker 8 (01:42:52):
On this the j JK. Yeah, the T eight hundred
is an assassin by miss Brian.

Speaker 9 (01:42:59):
Well, what's the terminator? Is coress?

Speaker 7 (01:43:01):
I'm gonna get of nine? A female board turns up
on this TV spin off?

Speaker 6 (01:43:08):
Good luck, Mandy? What is Stranger Things?

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
That is wrong?

Speaker 9 (01:43:12):
Dang it?

Speaker 8 (01:43:13):
What is Star Trek Voyage?

Speaker 12 (01:43:17):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:43:17):
Dang it?

Speaker 9 (01:43:18):
I was never gonna get that.

Speaker 7 (01:43:19):
Yeah, you better get this. The fembots battle this movie type,
writ Ryan?

Speaker 9 (01:43:26):
What is Austin power?

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Well done?

Speaker 7 (01:43:30):
The sidelines we're on this two thousand and five, two
thousand and nine TV show silence. I actually want to
give a hint. So bad, okay, Ryan, you won't, Ryan,
just finish it? Bears beats?

Speaker 8 (01:43:47):
Oh battle start liking?

Speaker 6 (01:43:49):
No credit, but I love it given that credit.

Speaker 8 (01:43:52):
What's the score?

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Was it.

Speaker 8 (01:43:56):
Finished? Cold War era Earth? In this nineteen fifty one?

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
Oh my god, I can picture the poster. It's not
the Day the Earth should still?

Speaker 8 (01:44:09):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (01:44:10):
Mandy? What is the Day the Earth? I'm not zero nice,
I'll take it. I'm ama a film teacher who loved
that movie, and it's so nineteen fifty space movie. It's
everything you think.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
It was and more, Ryan, what can people expect from
your show from the compound today, compound, caline, whatever, different
word altogether, totally different.

Speaker 9 (01:44:32):
Davis, I hang it out.

Speaker 12 (01:44:33):
No, we're wet the combine. So today today's a bit
of an in between or a preview.

Speaker 9 (01:44:41):
Kind of day.

Speaker 12 (01:44:42):
We'll sort of get keep up people caught up on
the latest on what the rumors are and what what
we're expecting this week.

Speaker 9 (01:44:48):
I mean, we have a coach and.

Speaker 12 (01:44:50):
The GM talking tomorrow, but you know, I mean one
of the guys that are going to be, you know,
talking out here today.

Speaker 9 (01:44:54):
What are the latest rumors? So we got some good
stuff coming up, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:44:57):
Coming up from the NFL combine. That's Ryan and Ben.
Keep it right here on KOA.

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