02-27-25 FULL SHOW - Mayor Johnston's Dumbest Idea Yet, Plus A 1940s Ball!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:27):
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Speaker 5 (00:39):
I'm today.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Somehow we will manage to get through the next three hours,
even though I am consumed with the upper respiratory infection.
I gotta tell you, guys, I posted this on my
on my Facebook, my Twitter, that stuff that I was
talking about yesterday, the nuclear waste that I put up
my nose. I am convinced that this stuff is like

(01:02):
the cure for everything now because it's called alcohol, and
I put a I put a link on my blog
to the Amazon where you can buy it. Some doctor
person told me about this stuff. I don't remember who
were why, I really don't could have been doctor Opperman
after my vocal cord surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
It's been in my medicine cabinet for like a year,
and I haven't used it. Because I was like alcohol.

Speaker 6 (01:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
But if you have this upper respiratory infection and you've
got all the congestion in your in your nose. By
the way, this is not COVID. If it is COVID's
like weak sauce now, but it's a it's if you
have all that congestion, you could feel it in your sinuses.
This stuff kicks so much, boutet Why is this happening
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
It kicks so much booty, it's not even funny. So
I have to say I absolutely I love it. I
love it and I will be using it for you know,
the rest of my life. So if you want it,
and it's been around since like eighteen forty eight, so
it's it's old school medicine, not new school medicine. It's

(02:09):
called alcohol. And just don't do what I did yesterday.
I was not feeling well and I didn't really I
skimmed the directions. That was a bad choice. And I
used two capfuls of this and the caps are very big,
but two capfules in my little tiny netty pot. And
I had to stop when I got done because it
made me cry because it burned so bad. But then

(02:32):
today I did the right dosage and I'm like, wow,
I can breathe both sides of my nose. Look at
this a rod both sides going in like that. You,
I know, super cool stuff. There's just so many gross
upper respiratory things going on right now, and just I'm
doing anything I can to stay healthy. This afternoon, I'm
going to be making a flu bomb. You ever heard

(02:53):
of this a rod? No, it's a mix. I wrote
it down. I don't have it in front of me.
It's a mix of garlic, ginger. I'm gonna use tea
tree oil. It's got lemon juice, it's got cayenne pepper
in it, and you put it in a little bit
of water and then you just crank it. And I'm

(03:14):
gonna have to say if that works, because you know,
I'm all about after the alcohol experience, all naturals working
for me. So I just wanted to share that in
case you too are dealing with this upper respiratory situation.
Textter just said, Sudafed helped me a ton. One thing
I learned through my process of you know, when you
have a lot of ear nose and throat issues. One

(03:35):
of the things they tell you in Colorado is that
sudafed is terrible in Colorado because it dries out your
nose even more and it can cause a rebound situation.
So use a suit of fed sparingly. Don't not use
it because I know sometimes you just got to be
able to breathe when you go to work. But don't
get hooked on it. Don't use it all the time

(03:56):
because it could be very bad. Okay, there is my
medical advice for you that is not from any medical
person except someone told me to buy the alcohol. And
I'm pretty sure they were wearing a white coat. Anyway,
let's go find the blog because it's enormous as usual.
Go to find the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. That's
mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says two

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twenty seven to twenty five blog Mayor Johnston's dumbest idea
yet plus a nineteen forties ball. Click on that, and
here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
Anyone's Missing Office South of American, all with ships and
clipments and sta press plant.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Today on the blog go back in time to the
nineteen forties. Mayor Mike's Big Ideas to make dining out
even more expensive, y'all. Another dumpster fire from the Colorado GOP.
Do you think Denver's response to illegal immigrants works? Gene
Hackman died. Wolves will be back on the ballot this year.
School lunches are back on the ballot too. Pro soccer

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player's feelings hurt by mean words. The zoony steam plant
is going to become a debacle. Yes, Longmont, you got scammed.
Representative Gabe Evans goes right at sanctuary state laws. More
tear andover at the RTD police. No, single payer won't
work in Colorado trans troops when we kicked out of
the military. Colorado's overdose rates aren't going down. Why is

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this so hard to understand? They flipped his lid? Trump
ribs the press, what great is the Jags? New GMN
when Hot Wheels comes to life? Trans woman arrested for
vandalism at Tesla Again, we do have yearly measles outbreaks.
Scott Jennings asked for specifics. Some people are ready to

(05:38):
ditch the United States, and there's a plane at parade
this Friday. Those are the headlines on the blog at
mandy'sblog dot com. Oh I love all y'all.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I just do.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I love all y'all taking to the Common Spirit health
text line right now with just helpful things. I've used garlic, honey,
and kayenne mixed with water. There's also honey in the
flu bomb as well, So the only thing you're missing
in that one is the t treoil or eucalyptus and
uh ginger. There you go. Mandy, been using alcohols as

(06:15):
sign its rents forever. Please tell everyone use distilled water.
Tap water can kill you. Literally look it up. Except
I'm just gonna say this about that. If you are
on a well, you should never ever ever use your
well water in your nose because it could get bacteria.
It puts it straight into your brain and you could die.
But like municipal water systems, the water is so highly

(06:38):
treated that you can totally use it. But if you
have any concern, please use distilled water. I'm just letting
you know because I use it. I use it out
of my tap and I haven't died yet, have not
die died yet? Yeah, Mandy, how do you spell your
respiratory stuff? I oh a l k A l O
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not be talking about it here on the show. Let's
talk about some of the stuff that's on the blog
today because we've got a couple guests coming up. One
of them is Jeff Bush. Have you guys heard about

(07:49):
this nineteen forties ball? They do a Christmas ball, Well,
they're doing one. They do one in the summer as well.
It's coming up in June. I'm super mad that I'm
going to be in Japan for it, but they're bringing
in the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra. Yeah, yeah, this is gonna
be like the coolest thing ever. So we're gonna talk

(08:10):
to Jeff about that and how you can get involved.
And then Britta Horn is coming on the show at
twelve thirty today. Britta is currently running for the chairmanship
of the Colorado Republican Party. And I don't know the
full details of the story, but I will let Kyle
Clarks share them with you. Oh, hang on, Kyle, I
gotta turn your volume up. And by the way, oh,

(08:31):
I know what I did. Hang on one second, We
do that and that there we go. Kyle will tell
you what's going on. This is from last night's Next Emily.

Speaker 8 (08:40):
The Colorado Republican Party tends to have its fights and
meltdowns in public. Today, one faction of the party served
another faction of the party with.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
A lawsuit at an IHOP restaurant.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
As diners in Greenwood Village enjoyed the breakfast Faves Combo,
the House Scramble, and the Pancake of the Month, one
candidate for the Colorado GOP chair dropped a double stack litigation.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
On the plate of arrival.

Speaker 8 (09:03):
This stems from the Republican civil war over whether to
replace current state Chairman Dave Williams, who is accused of
misusing party funds for his failed GOP primary bid for
Congress and for the hassle he created for Colorado Republicans
with his call to.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Burn all Pride flags.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
But back to the eye Hop home with a new
spicy shredded beef Anytime Tacos, where the spicy lawsuit served
this morning shreds the Republicans who tried unsuccessfully to force
out Chairman Williams.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Now, I'm not going to go on from there, but
i gotta tell you. If you've ever wondered why people
really do love Kyle Clark, it's stories like this one.
Forget the content. This is hilarious. It's absolutely hilarious the
way Kyle presented this, and you can watch that on
my blog. I have put that in there so you
can watch it. But he's telling yet another tale about
the dumpster fire that is the Colorado GOP. And I

(09:52):
don't want to oversell it, but the Colorado Republican Party
isn't a fight for its very soul, and I wish
I was, but I'm not. And the fact that Dave
Williams and now Darcy Shoenig have decided to go full on.
We learned it from Joe Biden law Fair. I find

(10:12):
that fascinating. They accuse everyone else of not being Republican enough,
but then they rip the tactics away from Democrats and
deploy them on Republicans. I don't understand it. Brita is
coming on at twelve thirty to talk about it from
her perspective. She is running for the Colorado chairmanship. She's
put out a plan that is so good, so.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
So so good.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
They're having a press conference about it tomorrow, and I'll
share it with you on tomorrow's blog because she lays
out specific, very detailed information about what she'd like to do.
And the first thing she has to do is bring
this party back together. And that's going to be really really,
really really really hard because the current cabal that is

(11:00):
taking over they're not interested in losing their power. I mean,
they don't care about anything but their own power. They
don't care if Republicans get elected, as evidenced by the
lack of help and support in the last election cycle.
They don't care if they drive away gay Republicans. They
don't care if they drive away any sort of Republicans.
They don't care. And that is precisely why Brita needs

(11:23):
to be the Republican chairperson. I don't envy her the job, though,
because wow, wow, Mandy, I'd rather have a root canal
than listen to Kyle Clark for two minutes. You know,
Kyle and I disagree politically. Straight up, He's obviously a Democrat,
and if he's not a registered Democrat, he's a Democrat
in his heart. It is patently obvious. We all know this.

(11:44):
But unlike me, who wear my biases, you know, I
wave them like little flags, so everybody knows exactly what
to expect. He still wants to be seen as a journalist.
But he's really funny sometimes, I mean really funny, regardless
of how you feel about what he's talking about. That
bit about giving you the special talk of the day,
that was funny, very well done. So yeah, you don't

(12:08):
have to listen to Kyle though, you really don't, Mandy.
I know a woman is threatening to leave the US
because of President Trump. I think she expects me to
talk her out of it. Oh well, I wouldn't talk
her out of it. I would not talk her out
of it at all, not even a little bit. So
we'll have to find out what this is, what this

(12:32):
is all all all doing. I'm sorry, I'm trying to
fix something on my computer while I'm talking to you
at the same time. My apologies. We also have all
kinds of interesting things.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh what, I was just imitating your computer, I know, and.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
I don't know how it got turned on, and I
don't know how to turn it off. That's pretty annoying
right now. Yeah, and I honestly am not sure what happened.
I'll figure it out on the break though, maybe because
you know I'm so good at that. Yeah, surprise, you
even gave me a bong there to do that.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Oh that wasn't props to you. That was just more imitaty.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Admitting that I don't know how to work things. Okay, okay, okay,
you keep it up there, mister man, keep it up anyway.
I got something on the blog today about Mayor Mike,
and I know Ross talked about this earlier. So Mayor

(13:26):
Mike Johnston has obviously never run a business, has obviously
never had to deal with profit margins that are very,
very low, and I guess I don't know, I don't
know find out a Rod google real quick how much
the Denver mayor makes because the last few times I
have gone out to dinner, and I know Ross talked

(13:47):
about this on his show too, the last few times
I went out to dinner, it is so gobsmackingly expensive
to go out to a nice restaurant in Denver. And
it is as somebody who travels a lot. I'm going
to tell you something, and I need you to listen.
It's not like this everywhere. You can actually go places

(14:08):
and get a really good steak, like a really good steak,
for like forty five dollars. Now you can go to
places that don't have really good steaks for way less
than that. But I want a really good steak, and
here in Colorado, that forty five dollars steak will run
you sixty five seventy dollars easily, easily. It's not like
that everywhere. Yes, a Rod, what do we find out? Uh?

Speaker 7 (14:29):
The most recent I'm seeing was, as of two years ago,
there was a proposal to bump up the mayor's position
to over two hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Okay, so he's under two hundred thousand though, because did
that pass.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
It doesn't say that passed. I was just propose, let
me see if I can find that hangout.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Okay, see, I mean but still that's a decent chunk
of change. But it's not, you know, crazy, And I
know he has kids and stuff and they're always expensive,
but obviously he's not as effected. Or maybe he doesn't
go out to dinner. I don't know. Maybe he's one
of those people whose wife is a great cooker. He's
a great cook and they just stay home and dinner
at home every single night. But when brought when he

(15:04):
was on the Denver City Cast podcast, he loft at
an idea to quote help out restaurants, and that idea
was adding a twenty percent surcharge to your restaurant bill
and then taxing it, and then the additional tax money

(15:25):
would be split between the city of Denver and the restaurants.
That's the idea. Let me just ask you guys this,
If your dinners out went up immediately without tip twenty percent,
what does that do to your going out to dinner
budget if you still have one. One of the first
things people cut when things get tight with their with

(15:46):
their own personal economies, they cut things like going out
to eat, or they go from nicer restaurants due to
mid level restaurants. If they're at mid level restaurants, they
maybe go to fast casual restaurants. And by the way,
they're nothing wrong with any level of these restaurants. Please
don't think I'm a snob because I eat it all
of them. I eat it, you know, diners, I eat

(16:08):
at steakhouses, I eat it everything in between. Love I
love restaurants. So I just saw this and it was
it was literally like the dumbest thing ever. But I
don't want to talk about that yet because I've got
Britta coming up at twelve thirty. But I do want
to talk about this. On the same podcast, the mayor
started to give a little bit of a window into

(16:29):
his strategy for his testimony in front of Congress, and
he told the Citycast Denver podcast, we think the data
is quite clear that our approach works. One of the
things we see is the fact that we've engaged people
in services, supported them, meaning we feelt trust there, which
is why we haven't seen huge spikes in crime. What

(16:52):
he's talking about is Denver's invitation two immigrants to come
to Denver and and spend their time here. Do you
think it works? Listeners? Do you think it works having
someone run up to your car at an intersection and
square dirty water on it so they can then use

(17:12):
a dirty squeegee to get that off? Is that working
for you? Is it working for Aurora who has had
to deal with a terrible crime situation created by the
NGOs that propped Venezuelan immigrants that Mike Johnston invited here
into Aurora without notifying anyone. Is it working? Is it
really part of me Admires the mayor, because he's so's

(17:40):
the right word that I'm looking for? Delusional that I
think he really believes that this stuff does work. I
really think he believes that. I think that he is
so invested in what he thinks is the right thing
that when you when you point out that it is

(18:06):
not necessarily working, I don't think he is capable of
understanding that. I really don't. I really think in his
world he believes it's working. I really think in his world,
the chief of the fire department should be able to
take money that he is not entitled to. I really
think he believes this. He really believes that the number
of homeless people has gone down. In Denver, even though

(18:28):
the recent point in Time survey showed it went up.
So I'm truly do you think the Denver's response to
the illegal immigrant crisis is working? So I'd like to know, Mandy,
don't eat in Denver if there's a twenty percent surcharge
on the bill, there's no tip. There are a couple
of restaurants that have tried to add a happy people

(18:52):
charge or whatever, and hey, you don't have to tip.
From what I know, those restaurants are out of business.
And that's what we're doing. We're putting all of our
rests staurants out of business. Taco Bell for two with
no beverages cost twenty five dollars the other night.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
What what?

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, you don't give that kind of money for Taco Bell.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Even fast food, I mean most fast food, it's like
at least forty dollars.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I just I don't see the point in that. And
now that I know how to make my own refried
means I don't ever go to Taco Bell again. I
don't think I went to Taco Bell a couple days
ago because I was in a hurry and I got
the chicken fresco Taco because they're very low calorie and
very low flavor. Like I ate it and it satisfied
my hunger. But I was like, wow, that was not

(19:45):
enjoyable at all. But there you go, Mandy. The emperor
is much like the emperor with new clothes. All of
his staff tells him everything's working perfectly. I think you're
right about that. That is a great analogy, and thank
you for making it. We're gonna take a quick time out.
Brit Jarren joins us next to talk about the latest
nonsense in the Republican Party. And oh yeah, there is

(20:06):
more nonsense. We'll do that right after this. Before we
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become the next chairwoman of the Colorado GOP. Britta Horn.
Welcome back, to the show.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Thanks for having me, Mandy, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Now, Britta, you're no stranger to Republican politics. Okay, you've
had your your little your little bruises here and there.
We are now in next level stupidity, and we are
now in a situation and I'm not going to ask
you to confirm or deny what I'm saying here. This
is my opinion. We now have leadership that has learned
to do what democrats do, and that is to try

(21:54):
and use the courts to keep people out of office
that they don't like. You got served at ihop and
I don't mean pancakes. Tell me about that.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Yeah, we wish it was the seven to ten blueberry
kit pancakes.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
No, not at all.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
No, I got ambushed and ambushed by my opponent that
to serve us, serve me as one of many. And
this lawsuit the latest of the what the cabal is doing,
what David's the team is doing to minimize their voice,
to come create chaos, and to do everything they can
to keep their brain.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
And ultimately this is about a move by Eli Bremmer
and Todd Watkins and several other people to hold a
meeting reach a quorum and vote to go in a
different direction. All Republicans showed up to do this, and
so what grounds are they suing? Ready, you hurt their feelings?

Speaker 6 (22:49):
Well, there's like so many levels and you're like, I mean,
I don't want to get down into the weeds about it.
But then there was a tro to stop us from
doing it. Then we found out we could do it.
It was okay. Then we did it, and then the countersuit,
like you said with Eli Bremmer about you know, reinstating it,
and then that got thrown out for all number of
reasons of an opinion of a judge. And now they're

(23:10):
appealing that, and then in the meantime they're doing this lawsuit. It's,
you know, in essence, because of all the money and
the ces and the attorneys's at the Republican Party, the
current Republican party has occurred occurred. They want us now
to all pay for it.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Oh my god, Okay, Brettan, now that we've talked about that,
we'll have to wait till that works this way through
the courts, wasting a ton of money in the process,
money that could be spent planning for the next election.
But here we are instead, I'd rather talk about the
and I know you're not officially out yet. Can we
talk about the plan on that's not officially out yet?
Even though it's not out yet?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Sure, yeah, I mean yeah, I thought it was going
to be and I gave it to you how a time? Fine, Yeah,
we'll get up yes, as soon as we can.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
So, first of all, I just want to say I've
never gotten a more thorough document from any candidate from
me aware about what you'd like to see happen with
the Republican Party. And I was cheering as I read it.
It's just one great idea after another, none of which
has to do with suing other Republicans, none of which

(24:13):
has to do with putting out hate field videos. What
are the things that you want to put into action
if you're made chairwoman of the Colorado Republican Party.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
I truly appreciate that and thank you very much for it.
So it is an action plan for the first one
hundred days as the next Colorado GOP chair. And you
know it's going to we have to start with unifying,
you know, unifying that party. You have to make sure
we're taking care of everybody, everybody, and we can said
the word we just use all the time, the big ten.
We have so many different variations of Republicans and we

(24:41):
like it that way. We want to be independent, but
we all definitely have things we agree with. We want
less government, you know, the less taxes and more freedom.
So let's work with those. So we need to unify
the party and we need to strengthen the county parties.
Two years ago, there were so many new party chairs.
They had no idea what they were doing many and
it showed because that's all they did is doing this

(25:03):
infighting instead instead of working on you know, electing Republicans
that you know locally, get growing the party locally, having
more events than the one week to day dinner. You
have to do more than that, and you also have
the fundraise and have fun. The newer generation Republicans, they're
sick of this. I mean also on Republicans. They're all
supporting me because they're like they're the new future and

(25:24):
we need to hand this over to them. But they
want to have fun too. Why we're doing this and
protecting our conservative values and going on. I mean, I mean,
you will have those at the beginning. And I really
wanted this one to be the first one, because this
is how we get unified, This is how we get integrity,
This is how we get character of who we are.
We need to audit the books. We need to tell

(25:46):
the party what's going on. We need to do a
third party audit and know what's going on with the
financials of the GOP because not having put that transparency
causes all this havoc, and we're seeing it every day.
People are angry.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Greta.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
I think that that I just called you, Greta, sorry
about that. My waitress at a restaurant last night was
Greta Britta. One of the things that I think would
be critically important is to put all expenditures online. Everything
that the party spends money on. Any Republicans should be
able to go and see, oh, they spent X amount
of dollars on office supplies. This spent x. Every aspect

(26:21):
of the budget should be online. Because I don't have
any confidence. Although I'm not a registered Republican right now,
I left the party when Dave Williams become a chairman
because I knew what he was capable of, and I
was right. I'd love to come back, but I want
some certainty that if I'm giving money, it's going to
be spent wisely.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Absolutely, and you're absolutely right. That's a great tool to
do that with. And there's a lot When I was
county treasurer, I saw a lot of the bigger counties.
Thank you that every day you know what's going on
in every county. Why wouldn't we know what's going on
in the county party?

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Well, let me ask you this, and this is something
that I think is really important for the next leader.
I am sick to death of Republicans getting caught flat
footed on idiotic social issue that isn't important to most
voters in Colorado. But the news media drives an agenda
and then they drive the conversation and Republicans follow them
off of a cliff. It's happened over and over again.

(27:13):
What issues do you think that the Republican Party should
be focused like a laser on for the next few
election cycles.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
I think for Colorado we obviously the rule of law.
I mean, we could go you know what's we're going
on right now? We're having this type of lawfare going
against each other and all the lawfair going on in Colorado.
We have what's going on in the capitol. I think
all the issues we're saying with the gun issues, we're
staying with the lotto. You know, I'm still as a
rancher's wife, egg issues, fire, she's made wolf issues, obviously,

(27:42):
water issues. We definitely had to work on those things.
But now even down to education, I think education is
super important to all of us. I mean, you see
it every day. We all think you're seeing with your
daughter in school where you're going to put her and
we're going to you know, she's going to get a
good education and not worry about the politics of the
of the feature. So I think pieces and I would
also say the economy. I mean I was still shocked.

(28:04):
You know, we talked about all the egg stuff.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
The other day.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
We paid sixty eight cents for an egg, and then
I was like going to Costco, go to Costco. I
went to Costco on the way home yesterday after all
the meetings.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
There were no eggs.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yeah, they were out.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I mean, just like.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
That's affecting all of us. So economy is definitely somewhere
that we can really get along with and agree with
and start working lots from the county level all the
way to the state.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
So Britta what is going to happen when the state
Assembly happens. These lawsuits are out there. How do you
plan on addressing the crowd that is going to be
very friendly to Dave Williams. He has managed to stack
the deck quite nicely and is working to dis qualify
some well voters who may have been there to vote
for someone different. How do you address that crowd and

(28:47):
ask them for your vote?

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Well, I think we're definitely looking at the numbers and
we're really tracking them. We're tracking by making phone calls
to every one of them, every chair, advice and secretary
in the smaller counties and including the bonus members and
the larger on it. We're definitely making sure we're tracking
in our numbers. We're in the margins. This is going
to go really well as long as there's no more shenanigans.
We have to plan for all those different shenanigans that

(29:10):
can happen, and my voice is going to be we
have to figure out how to unite, how to collaborate,
and how to focus on winning elections instead of fighting
each other. And it's going to have all those different levels.
And you're right when you said earlier, and I was listening,
listening in you know, this is the soul of the party.
We're fighting for the shall of the party. Do we
want to still continue to be this ugly, nasty, vindictive?

(29:33):
How many more words would you like to use, you know,
attacking other Republicans because we think differently, or we're not
drinking the kool aid and we're not taking the purity test,
and it's all that's set up anyway, it's when do
we stop that? I have never manning. I'm looking at
the people who are saying it. Not only do they
have an ugly inside there, it's their continents, it's an

(29:57):
ugly on the outside. And like kid, right, you know,
who has the right as adults and aged adults to
say such ugly things about each other?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Well, what's interesting to me? And we're talking about the
Rhino watch crowd, and I'll let you have the final word.
What's interesting to me is who made them the decider?
And when you decide and they just randomly decide to
move the goalposts on what makes you the wrong kind
of Republican? And I don't understand why they've been given
so much power, And I'm genuinely curious about why who
decided that they were going to have so much power

(30:30):
within this group of Republicans, and it's unfortunate that they do. Brina,
what's next, what's the next step here? When is the
State Assembly? When we'll we find out?

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Well, we we understand we should be thiry one days
from this. So we heard you, you know social media
that it's March twenty ninth, council, Rock Rock Church. But
we haven't seen anything. We haven't seen the call yet,
so we're still waiting and we're still I'm just working it.
Every day. I have more interviews later today. We're still
making the phone calls. And I wanted to say, what
you were having that call yesterday? The interview of yesterday,

(31:00):
I had over six endorsements popping up my phone why
we were doing the interview.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
It was fantastic.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Everybody's going they're done with this. They're stuff. Yeah, and
I'm getting some bigger calls and I can't wait wait,
no talk about it yet. But they're getting the very
close because they're set up too, and we need to
all be set up with this because you're right, who.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Is the arbitrator?

Speaker 6 (31:21):
They're anonymous man. Yeah, that's why they get a right
of it, and we need to change that too.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Britta Horn is my guest.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Britt.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
I appreciate you making time for me today. Maybe you
and I can go to I Hoop and we can
actually have a nice breakfast were to observe by someone else.
I appreciate your time to day, Britt, and we'll talk
to you again soon.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Thanks again.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
All right, that's Britta Horn. We'll be right back. The
death of Gene Hackman terrible. I mean, dude was ninety five,
you guys, he was ninety five a rod. More details
are coming out now. We still don't know if the
door was open or closed, but they say, you know,
it looked like Gene Hackman fell and it was in
a mudroom cell and both bodies were somewhat decomposed. So

(32:05):
I don't know. The wife was found lying down surrounded
by prescription pills. We don't know. They're obviously going to
do an autopsy and find out if any sort of
you know, foul play, but it could be something. Maybe
she found him dead on the floor and couldn't bear
the thought of living without him.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
That's where my mind went, like, yeah, afterself when he
was found dead, I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Mean I initially thought it was a carbon monoxide situation
because that's what it seemed like.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
What about the dog, because that would make sense for
the dog too.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
The dog was I don't know if the dog was.
The dog happened to be in a closet, but I
don't know what the dog was doing.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
If they were decomposed, maybe enough time went by both
were dead and the dog died of hunger.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Hunger.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
But there was other dogs there are you like I
think about this?

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Okay, other dogs.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
There was other dogs on the property. There were their dogs,
but we don't know about them. So maybe Alex will
be able to fill in some of these gaps. But
what a loss. Gene Hackman, Now he's been out of
Hollywood for twenty years. He retired in like two thousand,
But he's one of those guys that made every movie better.
Every single movie he was in, he made it better.

(33:14):
Just such a massive, massive talent. And although, as I said,
he's been retired for some time, so it's kind of sad.
I want to read some of these text messages, Mandy.
I would say a winning platform would be to push
Trump's agenda. The man who won the popular vote he's
obviously well supported. Dave Williams has got to be a
Democrat plan. You guys, Trump lost Colorado. He lost the state.

(33:41):
So whenever we talk about you know, oh, we just
need to push Trump's You guys, Trump lost Colorado. We
need someone in the Republican Party, and we need a
Republican party here in Colorado that stays on focus, This
stays on task. Imagine if we had candidates that were
out there saying, hey, you guys, you want to know
why everything is so expensive and why so many restaurants

(34:03):
have shut down because the Democrats jacked up minimum wage.
That's why. Start pinning some of the things that have
made Colorado such an uninhabitable place. I'm joking when I
say uninhabitable. Just start talking about the things that government

(34:24):
has done to make everything more expensive. Start talking about
the fact that when Republicans put forth a bill in
the legislature to make serial retail theft and even greater
crime than Democrats kill it. Start talking about why everything
is so much more difficult now than it used to be,

(34:44):
and hang it all on the Democratic Party. That's all
I want. I just want people to be able to
talk to people about what's happening in their lives, which
is everything is more expensive than it used to be,
and offer them solutions and explain to them why if
we adopted these policies, this would all be much better.
That's what I want. That's it. That's it. We'll take

(35:07):
a quick time out. When we get back. We're going
to talk to Jeff Bush of the nineteen forties Ball Foundation.
If you want to go back in time to the
era when soldiers were coming home from Wall, this is
your chance. We'll do that next. Keep it on KOA.

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Speaker 4 (35:51):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I am your host, Mandy Connell for two more hours,
joined by Anthony Rodriguez you can call him a Ron
and now yeah there and now joined by the music
direct You know what I feel like, I'm going back
in time, So I'm going to put on my old
timey radio voice for this. And now the music director
from the Tommy Doarcy Orchestra. We've got Jeff Brush with us.

(36:12):
Everybody a big round of applause. There you go, there
you go? How did I do?

Speaker 9 (36:16):
You?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
How did I do?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Jeff?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Did I pull it off?

Speaker 10 (36:18):
That was fantastic. I think you need to come on
the road with us that you can announce the band
on all the gags.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Oh my gosh, I would love to be the voice
of God for the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra.

Speaker 10 (36:26):
I think you're a natural.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
How long has the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra been in existence?

Speaker 11 (36:32):
Well, Tommy founded the band in nineteen thirty five and
he led it up until his passing in nineteen fifty six,
and it has been led by a few great leaders
over the years. There are a couple of years where
the band didn't didn't operate, but for the most part
nineteen thirty five till the present.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, that's kind of amazing because this music I think
is timeless. I mean, I think this is truly an
American form of music that has influenced so much more
music after it, and it truly is a piece of Americana.
When you're talking about this big band style of music
that I'm glad to know it's still going strong. I'm

(37:11):
glad to know that you guys are out there touring,
and I'm glad to know that you guys are still performing.
You are a former performer. We just found out Jeff
is a trombone player himself. What is your favorite song
to play in a big band?

Speaker 10 (37:25):
Boy, I have a lot, and the repertoire is so vast.
I'm still amazed by.

Speaker 11 (37:30):
Tommy Dorsey was one of the greatest technicians on the trombone,
and he kind of innovated the beautiful singing style of
the trombone. So really anything that he plays where he's
featured on just a beautiful melody.

Speaker 10 (37:41):
It's really just such a joy to play.

Speaker 11 (37:43):
And it's difficult music to play as well, so it's
a great challenge as well.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Well.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
This music is going to be heard on June fourteenth
in Boulder at the Airport as part of the nineteen
Forties Ball. They do these twice a year. And this
is not just the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra. This is Hollywood
satin dolls. They've got Frank Sinatra, it says here, the
Kalama Polynesian dancers, Bob Hope can't wait to see that London,

(38:10):
England vintage sensation. Elise Roth. It's not just a concert,
it's a whole immersive experience. And you haven't had a
chance to come to this yet, have you?

Speaker 10 (38:20):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 11 (38:21):
I've seen a lot of pictures. I've heard a lot
of great comments from some of my friends and Glenn
Miller Orchestra. I hear it's quite just that's a great
way to describe it, an immersive experience, because it's really
a fantastic evening of people being in what do you
want to say, not costume but a vintage vintage out Yeah,

(38:41):
vintage cars. It looks just like a great time. So
I can't wait to just be a part of it.

Speaker 10 (38:47):
Really.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
So when you guys tour as the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra,
are the crowds all older or is it a mix
of people? Because I mentioned to Jeff off the air,
when I was a kid, I mean a little kid,
my dad and I watched The Glenn Miller Story with
Jimmy Stewart, and from that moment on, I was hooked
on big band music. I still love it to this
day and we'll listen to it on my own, you know,

(39:11):
of my own volition, is it? Are there more people
like me? Does it cut across generations who comes to
these shows?

Speaker 11 (39:18):
It does cut across generations now, certainly the generation that
grew up with this music. They are saying the fewer
and few of those folks with us, those are the
greatest generation of World War Two folks, although we do
from time to time, we'll have a World War Two
veteran come and say hello, and it's fantastic. In fact,

(39:39):
one of these gentlemen's our friend, Ernie Mogor, who served
in the US Army in Europe, gave us these purple
heart trading little medallions and gave them to us, which
is super special. But then we'll also get folks who
remember who are remembering their parents who grew up in
the two era, so it's kind of like a double nostalgia.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
That I call it.

Speaker 10 (40:02):
But then we'll get some young folks as well. In fact,
we just played a jazz festival.

Speaker 11 (40:05):
In Iowa about two weeks ago, and we were working
with high school students and college students and they came
to the show as well.

Speaker 10 (40:13):
So we'll get a wide range of folks and it's
really satisfying.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
To see that.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Well, I don't know if you know this, but there's
like this whole vintage clothing subculture where there are a
lot of women who are going full on nineteen forties
dress because the dresses were gorgeous, they were beautiful, and
though they were all one color during World War Two
because they couldn't get color, just the style and the fashion.

(40:40):
It feels very timeless for a lot of people. So
do you see this event, A lot of people are
in full regalia. They're out in their vintage clothing. Do
you see that often at the shows?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Only when we will.

Speaker 11 (40:52):
Play for swing dancers, we'll see folks dress in period
attire and it's great.

Speaker 10 (40:58):
And I love playing for dancers. You played for dancers.
The energy that comes off.

Speaker 11 (41:02):
Those folks just's it's it's just a fantastic experience. Can't
even really put it into words. When we play concerts,
most folks are just in their comfortable type of every
day right.

Speaker 10 (41:13):
So that's fine. Some people will dress.

Speaker 11 (41:15):
I will see occasionally some folks in vinage attired are conscious,
but mostly when we play dances.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
And was when we'll see the folks dress in you know,
period attire.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
It's my understanding from someone who's been to this event
multiple times that the dancers come out in force and
they are going full on, not just like standing there
like nicely, you know, doing the back and forth. They
are doing like if you're a swing dancer, this is
your moment, so you want to come out and see that.
Now this is happening June fourteenth.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I know that.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Are you guys the headliners? So you will be? Will
you be the final act? Because there is a lot
of other acts that night.

Speaker 11 (41:51):
I don't believe we are. I believe we're the headliner,
but I don't believe we're the final act. Our performance
hours are six pm to nine pm, I believe, and
I think there's someone that comes on after us at
nine pm.

Speaker 10 (42:01):
I need to take a look at that schedule, but
I believe that is accurate.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Well, let me give our listeners a little bit of
what they can expect. The twenty twenty five theme is
a tribute to Frank Sinatra. Now Frank Sinatra actually saying
with the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra, correct, that is correct.

Speaker 11 (42:16):
From nineteen forty through nineteen forty two, spent two years,
and that was a big break for mister Sinatra and
then he went, of course onto his iconic solo career
after he left Tommy.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
So they're gonna have Sinatra theme sets to Corean performances,
then Victory Street, Sinatra style showcasing, spectacular sets, historic exhibits,
multimedia displays, and international foods. This is why I really
wish I could go. I already told Jeff, I'm gonna
be in Japan. Our Japan trip is during this event.
There are World War two radio presentations and you can

(42:48):
try your hand at vintage radio presenting and broadcasting. Ladies
and gentlemen come to the party. It's gonna be wonderful.
I you would have one, Yes, why can't I make
it there? So anyway, Bob Hope, Carmen Miranda, Lucile Ball,
Rita Haydworth, Betty Grable. I'm guessing these are people doing
impressions because all of those people have passed away. And yeah,

(43:12):
and you can climb upboard Rocky Mountain Commemorative Air Force
TBM Avenger. So if you've ever wanted to have the
moment of sweeping off of World War two plane and
getting your pictures taken, you can do this at this event. Jeff,
it just looks like so much fun. That's the thing.
It just looks like so much fun. And I'm super
jealous that I'm gonna miss you. But the next time
you come here, I fully expect to be able to

(43:34):
come see the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra. I really appreciate your
time with us today, Jeff.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
It's really my pleasure, thank you talking with you.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
All right. That's Jeff Bushy's the music director from the
Tommy Dorsey Orchestra. And I put all the information about
how you can get tickets and what you can do
and all of that stuff. It's happening June fourteenth, and
I really want somebody from this listening audience to go
and win the radio contest, like I need you to

(44:03):
do that. Someone. I just want to be able to say, yes,
one of my listeners got it. They did it. They're
so smart. Hey, Rod, can you do a nineteen forties
radio voice? Is that something you can make?

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Forties radio?

Speaker 4 (44:18):
That's this guy. Ladies and gentlemen, it's all very clipped
and sharp, and you know, the ladies and gentlemen. Let
me tell you about the nineteen forties ball. It's going
to be amazing. The Bee's knees. The cats me out.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
Phrases they used, I'm trying to think about the phrase
the other one. The ones uses use those are pretty good. Uh,
cats me out? You know that's the that's the name
of the favorite karaoke club in New Orleans. I'm glad
you use that one.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Oh yeah, Ladies and gentlemen gets the cats me out.
It's getting me, that's insaning. I'm a show and KOA
jumping Colorado rockets.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Not not bad, not bad, a little too great. It's
very clean, very clip.

Speaker 7 (45:02):
This guy's he's been doing it for decades. Okay, he's
been KOA for years and years. Yeah, yeah, would have
just been around for like fifteen years, but.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Maybe maybe not. It does look super cool. They also
have one at Christmas. If you can't make it to
this one again, I put all the links. You can
follow them on Instagram, you can follow them on Facebook.
That's what I'm doing so I make sure that I'm
here for the next one, because I am again going
to be on the Mandy callin Adventure to Japan for
this one. So I'm a little bit bummed out about that. Okay,
I want to get into this conversation about Mayor Mike

(45:36):
Johnston's idea to help restaurants. And this is why it's
so funny to help restaurants. Restaurants are dealing with multiple
attack points right now. Number one, our minimum wage is
ridiculously high, just ridiculously high. It is jacked up labor
costs to a point that restaurants are struggling to just

(45:56):
get enough bodies in the door and make sure everything
is covered. And a salute disaster. That's thing number one,
a government created problem. And then they're dealing with inflation,
where everything they're buying costs more money, especially if they're
a breakfast restaurant and they're serving eggs. Also a government
created problem. That problem was created by government spending so

(46:20):
much money in the Federal Reserve, continuing to print money
so the government can continue spending money. That's why we
have inflation. And unfortunately, I don't see anything coming out
of this giant budget bill that the Republicans are about
to pass is going to do it. Amn thing about that.
Talk about a disappointment anyway, I continue. So we have
two government created problems, and then you add in homelessness,

(46:44):
you add in crime downtown, you add in all of
these other issues, all of which have been government created.
Now I know what you're thinking. You're like, Mandy, the
government did create the crime problem downtown. Yes it did.
The government created that problem by allowing little crimes to
become big crimes. We went from a guy hitting someone

(47:06):
with PBC pipe on the sixteen Street mall a few
years ago to a guy stabbing and murdering two people
a few months ago. All of these things are government
created problems. So the Denver City Cast podcast, which, by
the way, isn't it nice a Rod don't you love
that the mayor has time to go on the Denver
City Cast podcast. Aren't you excited about that? No comment,

(47:30):
plenty of time to go on the city Cast podcast,
But anyway, I digress. He went on the Citycast podcast
and suggested this when they brought up the letter written
by restauranteurs by Dave Query and a bunch of other
restauranteurs that said, you ran your entire campaign platform on
restoring our downtown Denver business districts. It has gotten worse

(47:51):
since you took the position a mayor, even though you've
received five hundred and fifty million dollars towards stewarting it
in a different direction. This is the current vibe and
entered you on our downtown streets and our longtime Loto
and Laramer guests are now driving to Cherry Creek and
Northfield and Golden for dinner and entertainment.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
And do you know it.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Let me just read to you what the mayor said.
He said, and this is a quote. We know it's
a challenge. We've had four hundred restaurants closed in Denver
over the last three or four years, and we know
that a big part of that is the increase in
the minimum wage, and we want folks to make more money.
He says, it's the city's job to ensure an equitable

(48:33):
and livable wage while allowing while allowing allowing restaurants to thive. Now,
I don't know if he's said allowing. That's in the
Denver Gazette. Johnston said that a recent restaurant group tour
group told him that wage disparities exist across the industry,
with tip servers making as much as one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars in annual salary because they have both

(48:55):
the city's minimum wage plus tips, compared to the back
of house staffers such as cooks and dishwashers who make
about forty grand. Now the state is trying to figure
this out by using a tip offset in places like
Denver that have adopted a ridiculously high minimum wage. But
the mayor didn't stop there. Oh no, no no. At

(49:16):
the local level, Johnston suggested that collecting a twenty percent
service charge would generate revenue that could be spread equally
across all employees. And this is a quote. But what's
interesting for us as the city is you could pull
those service charges. You could share it with all the staff. Interestingly,

(49:39):
for us, if you had a service charge that comes
above the line and the bill, which means it's also taxed.
If you had a one hundred dollars tab and now
you put a twenty dollars service charge, you pay one
hundred and twenty dollars, and we tax one hundred and
twenty dollars. Johnston said the city could then share revenue
from the quote marginal new tax back with the restaurants.

(50:03):
So let's just review. Let's review. We have restaurants that
are being absolutely crushed by government decisions, absolutely crushed, and
government decides that the answer is that restaurants should raise
the cost of everything twenty percent, because that's what a
twenty percent surcharge on the final bill is. It's a

(50:24):
twenty percent increase on everything you just ordered. And then
the city is going to give them part of that
money back. Part notice, he says share revenue from the
marginal new tax. Now, the mayor obviously has no understanding,

(50:46):
no understanding of what it's like to actually have to
pay the bill to go out to dinner. Because earlier
when I brought this up earlier in the show, a
lot of you hit me with some variation of just
ate at Panera four sandwiches, no drinks, seventy six dollars,

(51:06):
took four people to Taco Bell it was sixty seven dollars.
And if they think that consumers will not react to
a twenty percent service charge only in Denver, that's the
best part of this whole thing. In his letter, Dave
Query actually said, our longtime customers are now driving. They're

(51:27):
driving to Golden they're driving to Northfield, they're driving Cheer
to Cherry Creek. They're getting out of downtown Denver because
they don't want to come down here because of the crime.
And then you add the cost of everything and there
you go. So does this just drive business to Lakewood?
Does it drive business to Douglas County? Does it drive
business to Broomfield? Where does it drive business to?

Speaker 11 (51:52):
So?

Speaker 4 (51:53):
I don't this This is like a This is the
worst answer ever, just an incredibly terrible, awful answer. And
to the Texter who just said, Mandy, how is this
different than just raising prices, it's not. And if restaurant
tours didn't think about raising prices but then make the

(52:13):
decision that raising prices are going to price even more
people out of dining at their restaurants, do you think
they didn't think about that? Mayor What kills me is
if he had said, look, we're going to do this
twenty percent, and then that's going to bring in more
tax dollars in hey, you know what, We're gonna give
all those tax dollars back to the restaurants. But no,
he continued by saying, this will take some small additional revenue,

(52:37):
but we could support the restaurant's institution at the same
time you're supporting dollars back to the individuals. Ah yeah,
yai aye yea yi. By the way, more than two
hundred restaurants closed across Colorado. Last year, some twenty thousand
restaurant workers in Denver lost their jobs. In the previous

(52:59):
three years, it has twenty two percent of the city's
restaurants had shut down. So that higher minimum wage it's
not doing those twenty thousand restaurant workers any good this text.
I gotta tell you, Texter, I don't want to agree
with you, but I do agree with you when they
say it's hard to have sympathy for restaurant owners that

(53:22):
voted for all of this. Now, I don't know if
every restaurant owner voted for all of this, but it
is certainly a good chunk of them. They sound like
screaming left wingers who are now mad that they got
what they asked for. But what they asked for isn't
what they thought they asked for. So now when it's
putting their businesses under, they're so many to get concerned. So, yeah, Texter,

(53:45):
I do think you're right. In some cases, it's really
hard to have sympathy for restaurant owners that voted for
this and didn't do more to encourage their people to
vote for someone so they could keep their restaurant open. Mandy,
how is it rediculously high. If the cost of housing
and living is ridiculously high, I mean, I don't know

(54:08):
what you're saying. Are you asking how is it ridiculously
high to go out to eat? When housing? And that
doesn't mean? Well, they kind of go hand in hand,
don't they, Mandy. I work downtown and live in Douglas County.
I hate it down there. I hardly ever spend a
cent as is, hate to walk around Cap Hills, so
I eat at my desk. If they go forward with

(54:30):
this stupidity, I will never eat downtown again. No dinners
just hang down south. And I gotta tell you, down
in Douglas County, we're actually getting some really good restaurants.
And I've been here for thirteen years, and I did
not say that. When I first moved here, it was
basically like a restaurant wasteland. But our restaurant scene from
Lone Tree down has improved dramatically, Mandy. Why tax them

(54:54):
and take their money to start with? That is a
great question, great question. So yeah, twenty three skido to
Douglas County restaurants. There you go and uh, Mandy, And
then the money goes back to the individual employee, and

(55:15):
then that's tax does income that'll work out real well? Yep, okay, Mandy.
That one hundred and twenty thousand a year is only
one percent of weight staff at the most elite restaurants,
not your average weight staff. I won't drive to Denver
to eat, although I used to all the time. Signed
ex Republican, now independent. Till Dave is drawn and quartered. Well,
I don't want Dave Williams to be drawn and quartered.

(55:36):
I just want him to be taken out with the trash. Anyway,
I do have a.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
Question.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
First of all, the one hundred and twenty thousand a year,
I would say it's probably more than one percent, simply
because of the percentage of extremely high dollar restaurants that
we have here. I've never worked in a restaurant where
I made that kind of money. I did fine dining
where I made really good money. But when you're going

(56:06):
out to dinner and four people without drinks is five
hundred dollars and you tip twenty percent, that's one hundred
bucks for an hour and a half, it's worth of work.
And that's one table, right, And there's a lot of
restaurants here where going out to dinner will cost you
that kind of money. And that's my point. People that

(56:27):
live here that don't travel a lot, you think this
is normal. You think that all restaurants all over the
country cost this much money. I am here to tell
you they do not. You can go to some cities
and you can have a meal that would cost you
five hundred bucks here and it will cost you three
hundred there. Our food inflation is nuts here. We traveled
when we went to Switzerland, and when Chuck and I

(56:49):
went to Switzerland, we were told by so many people,
oh my god, it's so expensive. You're gonna die when
you see how expensive it is. We did not have
one meal in Switzerland wind and we ate in two really,
really really nice restaurants. We didn't have one meal in
Switzerland that costs more than any meal I have here
in Denver at a nice restaurant, not even close. So

(57:11):
it's like when people don't go anywhere, they think this
is normal. I'm here to tell you it's not normal.
Now there is a move at the Capitol, and I
hope it works that will expand the tip credit, which
means that an employer can say the minimum wage. And
I'm gonna use round numbers here just to make it easy,
although these are not accurate numbers. To be clear, say
the minimum wage is fifteen dollars for tipped employees. It

(57:34):
used to be that minimum wage when I started working
as a waitress tipped. I mean minimum wage was was
it seven dollars? I think it was like seven bucks?
Maybe it was five fifty. I don't remember. Five to
fifty or seven bucks. That was a minimum wage. But
I only made two or one an hour as a waitress.

(57:54):
And if for some reason my tips that day did
not take me up to be able to make that
much money, uh, I got the difference, Text me five six,
six nine. Oh, I'd love to hear your thoughts. We'll
be right back. This dexter said, Obviously, Johnson's personal wealth
did not come from running his own business. Exactly. Exactly.

(58:15):
Funny that you said restaurant workers vote per personal experience,
most working via a fake green card. Here you're talking
back of house. I'm talking front of house. Front of
house is a whole different experience, Mandy. Here in Maryland,
we spend seventy to one hundred for a couple with drinks,
very fine dining, one hundred dollars per person. This person said,

(58:37):
we ate it. Four Michelin starred restaurants in Bordeaux this fall,
and mine were over one seventy five with wine for two.
So that's less than one hundred dollars a person with
wine at a Michelin starred restaurant in Bordeaux, France. Are
we starting to get the picture now? And for those
of you, I just want to say this. We got
a couple of people who are saying three to four
hundred dollars for a meal. That's insane. Nobody can afford this.

(59:01):
I want to be clear. I don't regularly spend three
to four hundred dollars on a meal, right, That's like
special occasion type situation. And whereas previously we would have
a special occasion once every six months or something somewhere
in that ballpark, now it's like do we really want
to spend that kind of money? And the answer most
of the time is no. And I know I'm cheap,

(59:24):
I get it. I prefer to think I'm thrifty. But
this textor said minimum wage for three twenty five. When
I first started waiting tables in North Carolina, I made
a buck fifty plus tips per hour, always cleared way
more than three twenty five because I busted my butt.
This texter has a theory, Mandy, how about one fine

(59:48):
try European style, raise the prices to cover wages and
have no tipping. Restaurant service in places without tipping sucks.
I mean, you do get the occasional wonderful server when
you're traveling in Europe. And I feel like I can
say this with some authority because I've traveled a lot

(01:00:09):
to a lot of different places, but compared to where
we are here in terms of service, it's not even
remotely the same. I mean, in some German places that
I've been in, your dinner is going to take two
and a half hours long, not because of any reason
other than it's slow as hell. Your server acts like
you're bothering them. It's just not a good experience. They

(01:00:31):
don't have the same level of service that we have
here in the United States, and tipping is a big
part of that. As a former waitress myself, I can
tell you that I worked my butt off because if
I was going to be at work, I was going
to make money, right, I mean, I was going to
make money. So you work harder, and if you have
a great group of people around you. Everybody can make

(01:00:52):
a lot of money. Mandy. Yet again, Johnston following the
police's pattern of fee Police's pattern of fees also known
as service charges. I will not eat in any restaurant
that has a twenty percent service charge above the line.
Oh dang it, hang on, it just updated. And if
I pay a twenty percent service charge, I'm not paying
my waiter or a dime. And the waiter should not

(01:01:12):
have to share tips with everybody else in the restaurant,
including the government. This is why I try to tip
in cash. I pay with my card. I tip in cash.
That's my little middle finger to the government. I mean,
I'm not saying that they shouldn't report it. I'm just
saying if they don't, if I give them a gift
at the end of the meal, that's my prerogative to

(01:01:33):
share with my friends that just brought me food and drinks. Anyway, Lol,
you call yourself cheap spending three hundred dollars for food
for special occasions, that's out of control. It depends on
where you are in your financial journey. My friend, years
and years ago, that would not have been possible. Now
it is not all the time, but it is and

(01:01:55):
let me just say this. The other night, we went
to see Mean Girls at the DCP, a fun little show,
but we went to I met my friend Michelle, Michelle's elner,
you guys know, Michelle's elder. Met her at the Edge restaurant,
which is right down the street from the DCPA. First
of all, there was only beautiful people in the Edge,

(01:02:17):
Like I was like, are they gonna let me in?
I don't know. It was full of beautiful people, so
already I was like, holy crap, I'm outright. But then,
you know, appetizers, we split some appetizers. We didn't get
like a meal meal. We just got some things to
nash on. But each of them was twenty dollars and
I was like a little appetizer And that place was packed.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
The restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
We couldn't even get a real table. We had to
sit at the bar. So to think that just because
it is out of your reach, now that it is
out of reach for everybody. There's a lot of people
spending a lot of money in a lot of restaurants.
Mandy Verlin and I had our favorite Mexican food yesterday
Senior Rix in Aurora forty eight bucks with happy hour
drinks twenty dollars for a tip didn't hurt at all.

(01:03:02):
Well that's very nice. Are you the marketing director for
Senior Rix, because that was a very nice ad for them.
Right now, here's my favorite in Turks and Caicos. Right now,
lying in the pool, I don't like you text to
no idea. I'm just kidding. I'm just jealous in Turks
and Caicos. Right now, laying in the pool, I hear
how expensive food is here, but since everything is shipped
in ocean or air to the island, I however, don't

(01:03:25):
feel that things are expensive compared to Colorado. We live
in monument really nice Rabbi is sixty bucks, fresh fish
thirty five bucks, drinks ten to twenty dollars. Part time
resident here, still got my koa fix via the iHeartRadio app.
And now you can make my show a preset. I'm
just letting you know, just letting you know, Mandy, our

(01:03:45):
idea special occasion dining is different. My wife and I've
never spent over about one hundred and sixty at any restaurant.
I just don't get how a five hundred dollars meal
can be a better quality. I'm kind of with you, Texter,
because I've had meals that were very, very, very expensive
that I was like, I just got armed rob in
this restaurant. But then I've had meals that were so

(01:04:08):
magically spectacular. Every single thing about the meal was like
a revelation and more perfect than the dish before, and
the service was perfect and all, and I'm like, you
know what, this is what I'm paying for?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
This is it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
So it can be overpriced and ridiculous, it can also
be something that when you splurge once on it, you're like, great,
I'm glad I did that. We're going to Peru in
twenty twenty six with the family, and we're planning this
trip and I'm super excited about that. But I found
out Peru Leama, Peru is home to like three or

(01:04:43):
four top fifty rated restaurants in the world in the world,
and I told Check, I said, We're going to one
of those restaurants, because first of all, I want an
experience of going one of the top restaurants in the
world period. I just want to do that. But in Peru,
you go to these restaurants and they have like a
a fifteen course menu, a prefixed menu, so you sit down.

(01:05:04):
They just start bringing you little little dishes of food,
and it's like two hundred and seventy five bucks a person.
That's insane, but you're also paying for the experience, and
that same meal in a different city on a mission
list would probably cost much more. So, I mean, it's
all a matter of perspective, right, but I do want
people to understand that in Colorado everything costs so much

(01:05:27):
when it comes to dining out, and the mayor is
not helping at all. Now, when we get back, I've
got so much other stuff on the blog. I'm gonna
rip through, get a couple of stories because at two
thirty we're gonna talk to Alex Stone and find out
the latest in the very strange death of Gene Hackman.
They're saying, first of all, he was ninety five years old,
so this is not like a surprise, but the details

(01:05:51):
around what just happened is well, they're they're kind of weird,
very strange. So we'll talk to him at two thirty.
We got stuff coming up on the ballot, Wolves and
free Lunch. I'll talk about that after this. Apparently all
of the Colorado Del Taco locations just closed today, as
in sorry about your luck. If you want a burrito

(01:06:13):
and some French fries, you're screwed. I'm bummed about that.
They were my fast food taco joint, and my daughter
loves them. I don't know what she's gonna do without
the beef and bean burritos. She's practically made out of
beef and bean burritos. Dang dang manday. Sometimes it's a
fallacy to believe that just because something is expensive, it

(01:06:34):
should be good. I won't mention the restaurant, but I've
paid a lot, sometimes double or triple for the same
quality of food. Amen to that. That's why I'm very
choosy about where I spend my money. So we got
a couple ballot initiatives that have been put to the test.
A proposed ballot initiative to sunset Colorado's wolf free introduction
by the end of twenty twenty six has cleared the

(01:06:56):
Colorado Secretary of State's title Board, paving the way for
voters to have the opportunity to vote on that nonsense again.
It would simply amend the current Colorado statute formalizing the
start date of the reintroduction by tacking on a formal
end date, so we'd still have chances to give you

(01:07:20):
to say no more, but it would they'd have another
year to bring more wolves in because we haven't had
enough little baby cows killed. We'll also maybe have a
chance to get to vote on the free breakfast and
lunch program at schools in Colorado. This program just irritates

(01:07:43):
the crap out of me, partly because I'm in an
affluent school district and when i see my daughter's high school,
all of the parents dropping their kids off from their
really nice, expensive vehicles, and I think, to myself, we're
soaking the taxpayers buy their kids lunch. That's not cool. Now,
don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to the free

(01:08:04):
and reduced lunch program. I actually think they are one
of the most abused programs out there. But to do
it for everyone is simply stupid. Only forty five percent
of Colorado students qualify for free and reduced lunch from
the federal government, which means that Colorado taxpayers have to
make up the rest of it. So the program was

(01:08:28):
initially funded by lowering a tax credit for taxpayers making
more than three hundred thousand dollars a year. And guess
what taxing the rich wasn't enough. I know you're shocked.
That's my shocked face. So House Build twelve seventy four,
we'll ask voters to tax the rich again. First of all,
they want to keep our table refunds. They would be

(01:08:52):
asked to approve letting the state keep the more than
twenty six million dollars that the program is collected over
what it expected, instead of having to issue money back refunds.
Two taxpayers that make over three hundred thousand dollars a year.
So tax the rich, Tax the rich. I'm sure it
will pass because jealous and envious voters don't understand that
eventually they'll do what California has done and drive the

(01:09:14):
rich people out. The last story that I want to
get to in the I don't have time to get
into this like I wanted to, So I'll wait on
that we have. I'll start it now and then I'll
kind of finish it over. Yes to the text, he
just went rip Krispy krinkle fries. Yes, you are correct,
You are correct. Del Taco is awesome, says this Texter.

(01:09:35):
You're right, Tacos and fries are a great combination, and
they're one of the few restaurants that has mister pib had,
Mister pib had had Mandy demolition Man predict the future
where every restaurant is Taco Bell twenty thirty two is
only seven years away. Be well, yeah, yikes, they used

(01:09:56):
to advertise, Oh never mind, so oh, let me just
make sure I got.

Speaker 12 (01:10:01):
All those.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
So the Zoonie steam Plant Downtown. If you've driven to downtown,
you see this big, abandoned industrial looking building. It's actually
a very cool looking building. That is the Zunie steam Plant,
and it used to provide power for downtown Denver. Now
it's vacant. Excel wanted to tear it down and put
a substation there to better provide energy and shot up

(01:10:26):
our grid. But God forbid, God forbid we do something sensible.
Neighbors got upset about a substation when this beautiful historical
building needs to be saved. And when we get back,
I'm and explain to you why this, and I'm like,
we're gonna put a start point today. Today is the

(01:10:48):
start point of what I'm going to call the Zunie
steam Plant Debacle. Now, is it a debacle already? No,
it is not, but it is headed in debacle direction,
very very very quickly, very quickly, this texter said, Mandy,
I work for Denver public schools, and you would not
believe how much food waste there is in this district.

(01:11:09):
Every single day, trash cans full of uneaten food in
every school. Unbelievable. You know what Norwegian Cruise Lines has.
I just saw a show on this and it was
like the coolest thing ever. When they bring their plates
back from the dining room on Norwegian Cruise Lines, they
are all run past a camera on the way to

(01:11:30):
get washed. Right on the way to the dishroom, the
plates are put down, they run past the camera and
Norwegian uses that information to focus in on what people
are eating and what they're not eating, and they use
it to make sure that their portions are exactly what
they need to be. God forbid, schools should care about
food waste, because clearly, clearly they do not, Mandy. While

(01:11:56):
cleaning up after lunch is out of school at BFBVSD,
I throw away about one hundred pounds of fresh produce
a week. You know why, because kids don't eat their
vegetables even when they're at school. I'll be right back.

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this is kind of interesting. So on the break and

(01:12:59):
I'll get to the other news stories that you can
see on the blog at Mandy's blog dot com. There's
a ton of stuff on the blog that you need
to know about. I'm just letting you know, like not,
I think it's interesting stuff that's gonna be on the ballot,
stuff you're gonna vote on. Please go to the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com. But let's talk about what we
were just talking about, any Royd, because we were talking
about Travis Hunter because the combines are going on this
week and Travis Hunter was a both way Star right

(01:13:23):
played both sides of the ball for the CU Buffs,
And now what has he told people at the combine?

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
He is saying in terms of the possibility to play
both corner wide receiver, he said, quote, nobody's ever done
it the way I do it. I'm just different in
terms of wanting to play one hundred percent of the
snaps at both corner and wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Well, I think that for him, I understand why he
wants to prove that he can do it. Talk about
a career limiting decision though, because the NFL, we hear
from players all the time that when they went from college,
even elite athletes to play at Alabama or they play
at these traditionally powerhouse schools, they will tell you to

(01:14:04):
a person that when they got to the NFL, it
was like a whole new world. Everybody was bigger, everybody
was faster, everybody was stronger, and all of a sudden,
they were like the little kids on the field. Again,
I just think this sounds like a career shortening decision potentially,
because we know how much this game beats people up,
and you're trying and play both sides of the ball.

(01:14:24):
It just seems unnecessary, and then you've doubled your chances
of potentially getting hurt someone. The reason I wanted to
talk about this on the air. Someone needs to talk
him out of this. Someone needs to say no.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
There's two sides of this coin. Number one.

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
Ironically, you think the person that we're talking out of
this is his agentially would be not just his agent,
his coach, coach prime, who's done it, who's played multiple positions,
multiple sports at times.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
But there's two sides of this coin. Number one. I
think what makes him elite and.

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
Makes him a top five prospect is the fact that
he was elite at both of those sides of the ball.
Wasn't that he was just dominant in a eat at
one and pretty good at the other one hundred percent
of snaps of both and being damn good at both,
which I think put him in the spotlight as the
Heisman winner, as one of the best players, if not
the best player, as a top five pick. What I'm
intrigued to see, because the reality of the situation is this,

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most people believe he's going to be a prominently a
cornerback and then get in some packages on offense as
wide out, which I really think is the only way
to do it. You can't play part time corner, you
can play part time wide receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
So I think that's the reality of it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:29):
But what intrigues me is, I mean, if this guy
thinks he can do it, and you want to keep
him happy, try it, try it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
Because I honestly I say, yeah, proven he's healthy. I
mean I think I'm t think.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
About all the quote elite guys in college that get
to the NFL and turn out to be a total bust.
Yeah you know what I'm saying. And no offense to
any of the opponents of the CU Buffaloes, but let's
be real, people, they did not play elite college football.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
They really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
They don't this this this entire league is not filled
with elite college football teams. So I think you're right.
I think he'll probably end up a quarterback who gets
in to, you know, as an extra receiver if they
want to do like some kind of play. But I
don't think any coach in the country, especially if he

(01:16:20):
is an elite quarterback or an elite receiver, is going
to say, sure, I'll risk that guy and go ahead
and throw him in on the other side of the
ball as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
I think, I mean, not many guys at'll even do
it in college. I understand the NFL is different, but
not even that many do it where he was doing
it already, so he's already an elite company. What makes
this interesting is this could separate because I've heard guys
talk in terms of his talent. If he's able to
translate that even eighty percent of that to the NFL,

(01:16:50):
we're talking about Hall of Fame player, I mean, if
he's able to do If he's able to do that,
I just I would like to I would like.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
To see a team give it a whirl and see
if he can do it.

Speaker 7 (01:16:59):
And then if you quick, if you see the winding
down or if you see one side of the ball suffering,
hopefully it'd be more in that sense, not injury that
changes it, but more so you see, hey, the elite
level can't can't be done at both sides, then you
rain him in that way.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
But I'd be intrigued to.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
Try to see because then you're talking about he's again
could go down as one of the best players of
all time if he's able.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
To do that well, and they're down to be teams
that have needs in multiple positions that he would fit
in on both sides of the ball. So yeah, I mean,
I just like, if i'm his agent, if I'm his mom,
I'm just saying, no, there's too much risk for injury.
You're going to shorten your career because look at it
this way Travis Kelce was talking about and by the way,
Travis Kelce coming back to the Chiefs, Travis Kelce spoke

(01:17:41):
about the fact that just playing in the playoffs and
going to the Super Bowl three years in a row
had beaten him up physically because you've basically added, you know,
twelve games to three years, and he talked about how
hard that was physically. So then you have to think about,
if you're taking every snap in every game, you are
getting beaten up at a level that nobody else is

(01:18:03):
gonna get beaten up. He's going to shorten his career.
It's gonna really make him potentially get injured. I just
think just from a from a strategic point of view
for his career and career longevity, I think it's for
his ego that he wants to do both sides. I
think it's a terrible idea. Well, especially if he's a
big time draft pick with a big time paycheck, come on.

Speaker 7 (01:18:27):
I will say props him to stick him to it,
because we know that he's a pretty smart guy, and
he's telling teams at the combay meetings that he wants
to do it. He wants to play one hundred percent
of the snaps, And I'm curious on both both sides
the ball. I'm curious if that that comment and sticking
to it scares teams off a smidge, not one like
wondering if they're gonna be able to talk him off

(01:18:48):
of that and then create a rift if he doesn't
get his way.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
So that intrigues me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Don't you think most college guys, especially elite guys like
he is, they all have that that sense of their
own importance, and then when they get into the NFL,
they realize that most of the people on that team
in their position are at the same level they are. Now,
he's something special. We can all admit that. And I
don't want to take anything away from him. I really
don't want any of any think that I'm saying he

(01:19:14):
couldn't do it, okay, because he might be able to
do it. I just think that from his own personal standpoint,
his own viewpoint of how brutal this game is on
your body. It's a bad choice. It's an ego driven choice,
and it's not a smart one. It just isn't.

Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
Yeah, we'll see. Like I said, I'm intrigued. I hope,
I hope. If it doesn't work out, it's not learned
the hard way via injury. It's more so that, hey,
because the game is different. Maybe he isn't as elite
as he is in college on one side of the
ball in the NFL, and that's why they wind it down,
not because of learning it the hardest way via the injury,
because he plays that many snaps.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
But it's going to be a very interesting time to
watch both he and Shular Sanders are going to be
drafted and see where they and it's just an exciting time.
It's an exciting time to be a Buffs fan.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
Really, I need any different of a recruiting pitch other
than to just say Shader Travis both top five, both
really both going to be superstars in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
I mean that was one of the things that Bobby
Bowden was so good about when he recruited for Florida State,
and I do think that Dion Sanders has learned watching
Bobby Boden about being a college coach in that using
how many of your players got drafted by the NFL,
and when I was there, like in the nineties, every

(01:20:36):
single draft had at least five, maybe ten players from
Florida stated it, that's a huge recruiting tool. So you're
absolutely right, that is a big thing to drop.

Speaker 7 (01:20:46):
Nick Saban did it for so long too, and now
I mean Nick Saban retired, you know, at least a
portion of whise. Today's college game just so different with
the recruiting and the money involved. So Dion being able
to do what he's doing both with the financials in Boulder,
but also just now that just the rise of the
Buffs program, guys like Travis and Schaeder, you know, coming

(01:21:08):
along with him to see you and then doing that
in the years here.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
I mean, that's just awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
It's gonna be fantastic. It is gonna be fantastic. Anyway,
that's our sports talk for the year right there. I
just think this is a really interesting topic because you
got this young guy with just oodles of talent, oodles
of talent. I want to see him play for many years.
Right I want to be able to enjoy watching him
for many years and as I maybe this, I'm momming him.

(01:21:34):
Maybe that's what's happening right now. I'm like, it's too dangerous.
You're gonna hurt your career long term. But he's gonna
do what he needs to do. He's certainly gonna be
doing it on a big stage. We're gonna be able
to watch it as it happens when we get back.
Thank you for the correction. The Zunai steam plant debacle.
We'll get to that next. Keep it on KOA now.
If you've driven downtown, the Zunai Steamplant is a giant building.

(01:21:56):
It's got a smokestack on it. A lot of its
windows are gone, but it is a cool looking building.
It's owned by Xcel Energy, and they wanted to tear
it down and build a substation there to better provide
power on the grid. Well, neighbors got upset, super upset,
and the headline in the Denver Gazette says, for years,

(01:22:17):
community leaders have rallied to preserve the century old power plant.
Finding another buyer maybe the last chance to save it.
So XL gave Denver ninety days for the right to
refuse or buy the zoo I steam plant because the
city of Denver wants to create something for the community.

(01:22:39):
Denver's now officially waived its right to buy the steam plant.
And here's the kicker. You know why. As a wait,
let me find the statement from Jordan Fuja from Mayor
of Johnston's office. Denver supports the community and historic preservation
advocates in their goal of finding positive community sort of
supportive uses for the zoom Ie power plant site. Do

(01:23:01):
you know why Denver didn't buy it because the cost
of environmental and structural remediation is too high. So here's
what's going to happen. And all happily, happily admit that
I was wrong if I am wrong, But Excel is
going to sell this property to someone who may come
in with big ideas, and they're going to present those

(01:23:23):
ideas to the community and if there anything except what
the community demands, they will then put up barrier after
barrier to changing anything. The zoo Ni steam plant is
considered one of the states most endangered historic sites according
to nonprofit Colorado Preservation, Inc. And here's what they want

(01:23:44):
it to do. Let me see if I can find
this one part in the la Ama, Lincoln Park and
Sun Valley neighborhoods, an area littered with development. Trans gentrification
has become a rising concern among city leaders and residents.
For the neighborhood's home to a large blue collar and
Latino population and the epicenter of Denvers Chicano movement, neighborhood

(01:24:05):
leaders hope the steam plants can be a reminder of
the area's blue collar history. So what does that mean?
What does it mean? I don't know what that means.
By the way, if the property doesn't sell within thirty days,
Excel said it would use the site to build utility
infrastructure to help meet Denver's electric energy goals. That is,

(01:24:28):
and this is where the Zuni steam plant debacle really
gets going. Historic Denver shows up to tell them that
they can't do that, because we're all gonna die if
we don't have access to that big eye sore as
we drive downtown. Now, I'm also worth saving historic buildings
if it makes sense. I went through this in Louisville
when I was on the radio. In Louisville, there's there

(01:24:49):
is a part of Main Street that has these old
buildings that have iron fronts. They have iron work on
the front. It's very detailed, it's very ornate. But the
rest of the buildings were literally falling apart. So developers
bought this whole block of buildings and they were like, Okay,
we're gonna tear down these buildings, and all of the
preservation has showed up. You can't tear them down. They're beautiful.

(01:25:15):
They were not beautiful spoiler alert, not beautiful. But they
caused such a problem that the developers had to spend
gobs and gobs of money to tear down the buildings
behind the iron fronts, prop up the iron fronts. During building,
they basically built new buildings behind the iron fronts, and

(01:25:35):
it dracked up the cost of all this stuff to
a ridiculous level. I'm all for preservation, but if neighbors
and different area people have been working for years, why
haven't they been fundraising for years? Why don't all of
these people that think this place needs to be saved,
Why don't they start a gofund me account. And I'm
not even kidding. They love to tell people what you

(01:25:59):
can't do with they they own, but they don't actually
do anything to help the property owners. Right, if it's
so important, then find some money and pay for it.
But if not, I can't wait to see the brand
new substation that'll be there in thirty days, well after
no one buys it in thirty days. We shall see
what happens after that. When we get back, Alex Stone

(01:26:20):
is going to join us. Actor Gene Hackman has passed away,
and there's some really weird details about what is currently
a death investigation, but they're saying no foul play. We'll
find out the latest from Alex right after this. Keep
it on Kawa. One of the finest actors of the
twentieth century has passed away. Gene Hackman at the age

(01:26:42):
of ninety five, joining us now Alex Stone from ABC
News to talk about the latest because some of these
details kind of weird. Alex, what do you have now?

Speaker 5 (01:26:52):
Yeah, hey, Mandy, they are weird and it's not clear
yet how they died. And it's being called suspicious because
the the front door was open, it was propped open,
and two people and a dog were we're dead inside.
But the sheriff is saying that that there are no
signs of foul play, no signs of trauma, no signs
of how they died. That it wasn't apparent in the

(01:27:14):
building or in on their bodies. They were not shot,
they were not stabbed, they were not strangled. They were
just dead. And how they died they don't know, and
they're not ruling out a crime that until they can
figure it out. That there definitely wasn't one. But but
the sheriff did give some details a little while ago.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
This is what he said. We're not ruling it out.

Speaker 13 (01:27:34):
What I what I did state was was there was
no obvious uh sign or indication of you know, all
foul play.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
There was no immediate uh sign of foul play. I
haven't ruled that out yet. This is an investigation, so
we're keeping everything on the table, com Mandie.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
One thing that that you know, when multiple people are
dead inside of a home and an animal as well,
typically that's going to be gas.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Of some kind.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Like yeah, that's what that's what I thought that I
even put that on my blog, said, this really looks
like a gas situation, a gas leak, carbon monoxide or something.
But they didn't find any sign that there was any
kind of gas leak. I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
Yeah, So that's the thing that the gas company in
the fire department. They came out, no signs of a
gas leak, no gas in the home, but it appears
that they were dead for a very long time. Betsy
Arakaway his wife. She was not to get to graphic,
but she was mammified and they were badly decomposed. So
if there was a leak over you weeks ago and

(01:28:29):
the front door was open, it probably would have vented out.
But they hadn't found anything that was leaking gas, so
they can't say, well, the gas is gone, but it
was this. She was found next to a space heater
that had fallen with her. That may have been the culprit.
Something else could have been, they don't know. And so
she was in a bathroom. There were pills that were around,

(01:28:51):
but we don't know what those pills were. They could
have been She could have a headache from carbon monoxide
right gotten to take a pill. He was in a
mud room, and investigators say it looked like he fell
very suddenly, that his sunglasses were next to him. It
looked like when he went down those got got tossed
a little ways away from his body, and that it's
really going to come down to an autopsy to know

(01:29:12):
why they died, and assuming that they do toxicology, that
can take weeks, that can take months running the blood test,
so it could be a while. But they are trying
to make sure it wasn't a crime, but that they
really don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
I mean, Gene Hackman was ninety five, so he was
an elderly man, so you know, it would stand a
reason that, I mean, he could have died after a fall.
It's just it's so strange, and I have a feeling,
Alex that were never really going to find out what happened,
right like, because there's everybody that was there is dead.
So it's this is just a sad way to end

(01:29:47):
such an amazing life and end career that Gene Hackman
has had.

Speaker 5 (01:29:52):
Just just very odd, you know, yeah, it really is.
And there were two other dogs that had free reign
to come and go, and they were able to go
from the open doored outside and that may be why
they survived. The other dog was locked in a crate
in a kennel, so that dog wasn't able to get
away from whatever killed them. So all of this is

(01:30:13):
pointing toward maybe carbon monoxide, but they don't know. But
the dogs that were able to get outside, they were okay.
There were other buildings on the property totally locked up,
nose signs a forestand free, nothing was rummaged through. Neighbors
say that they hadn't seen them in a very long time,
being elderly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
He was elderly.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
She was in her sixties, but he being ninety five
years old, They never really saw them. They never really
came out, so they don't know how long they've been
dead or what they went through. And the sheriff said, well,
the autops you will figure that out, but he doesn't
even know looking at them how long they had probably
been dead, and nobody knew it. But it was this
exterminator that was doing work and the door was open

(01:30:55):
and thought, this isn't right. It looked like they weren't home.
Called a security worker slash caretaker, not for them, but
for the the neighborhood community, and then they called nine
one one.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Wow. Someone on our text line said, Gene Hackman's birthday
was January thirtieth. I wonder if he made it to
his ninety fifth birthday. I guess we're gonna find this out.

Speaker 6 (01:31:14):
Maybe not.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
I mean, based on how they were found, he may
not have Yeah, that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
That's just absolutely Somebody said, I suspect Jane had dementia
and his wife died suddenly. He didn't have the mental
capacity to know what to do. So do they because
you said the wife was mummified, not to get like
two in the gory part, but the wife was mummified.
Is there a possibility that she had been dead well
before he is?

Speaker 5 (01:31:38):
He will maybe, although he was pretty well decomposed according
to the documents that we've got as well, so it
had been a while for him too. But maybe she
had died first, and the dog starved to death in
the in it was locked up in the kennel, and
and then he couldn't take care of himself, and then

(01:31:58):
he either had a medic emergency or something and fell.
They're gonna have to look at all of that. They
don't know the most likely scenario. I mean, my history
of covering these things, typically it's it's just the most
straightforward answer. You know, we always come up with all
these It could have been this, it could have been that. Yeah,
and normally it's like, oh, yeah, you know, it's the
one that you go, well, that makes the most sense.
But they don't know, and they got to figure out

(01:32:19):
if there was a crime, because what if what if
we go, well, it was carbon monoxide or you know,
some other non criminal thing, and then they find out
somebody did kill them and got in there, so they
got to rule that out.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Well, does he have any kids? Do they have children?
It's a good question. Yeah, we don't tell you. Like,
I mean, I talk to my mom and if I
can't get a hold of my mom, I call my
brother who lives near her, and I'm like, I need
a life check for my mom.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Like, I how do you not call your dad? You know,
I do the same thing, just to hear them pick
up and know that they're doing all right. Yeah, yeah,
we don't know that. The sheriff is saying that nobody
was trying to contact them that they know of. So
if they do you have grown children, that there there
was not an attempt to make sure that the mom

(01:33:03):
and dad were doing all right and to check in
on them. It seems like nobody un tell this exterminator. Yeah,
I was able to say, hey, something is well, listen
to this. This is the nine on one call.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
I'll femail and probably.

Speaker 9 (01:33:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
I don't know if I just send somebody up here.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
Just send somebody up here real quick. That was the
exterminator had let that security guy know, and then then
he called it in and then they came racing up
and then they found him dead in the house.

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
Well, I'm sure there's gonna be a podcast about it soon.
Alex So Alex, Alex Jones, think, Alex Jones. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
Well that's okay, everybody, I'll talk to you like this. Yeah, yeah, oh,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
Yeah, yell at me with some conspiracy theories. All right, man,
thanks for your time. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
You got it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
That stone covering the Gene Hackman death, which is just terrible.
This is interesting that I just saw on x and
I'm going to reach out to the gentleman who posted
it and see if we can have a conversation about it.
It's not on the blog yet. It'll be on the
blog tomorrow. Somebody broke down inflation in the US from
twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four by state ranks.

(01:34:00):
The Senates Joint Economic Committee estimates how much more each
month the average household in each state was paying in
December of twenty twenty four to purchase the same combination
of food, shelter, transport, energy, and other items they purchased
in January twenty twenty one, A Rod, what state do
you think is number one for the largest inflation?

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Take a guess, man, Cala Corrado, I mean Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
You are correct, and I'd love to tell you it
was close, but it's not. Down at the very bottom,
Arkansas residents are paying seven hundred and ninety one dollars more.
Way up at the top, Colorado's are paying thirteen hundred
and twenty nine dollars more. This is where we were
talking about the restaurant stuff per They're paying thirteen one

(01:34:46):
hundred and twenty nine dollars more per month for the
same stuff. This is exactly going back to the conversation
we had earlier in the show, which if you missed,
you can listen to the podcast right after the show.
This is why restaurants are going on or this is
why it's so hard to have a business, and everything
that has happened in Colorado by the Democrats ruling this

(01:35:06):
state has just made everything more expensive and that's just sad,
super sad. I'm gonna, like I said, we'll talk about
this tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
I got a couple of things on the block.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
No, No, that's the kicker.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Wait, let me see where California is three, Utah is
number two, and then Alaska, Florida, Maryland, Minnesota, Hawaii, Delaware, Massachusetts.
And you got to think some of these places like
Massachusetts and New Jersey and California and Hawaii, they all

(01:35:43):
had a really high cost of living before, so maybe
their stuff didn't go up as much because it was
already incredibly expensive to live there in the first place.
But go Colorado, we are number one. We're number one.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
We're number one.

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
When Utah's jumped to soon jumped to two, was pretty
significant to get a bove.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
Yeah, and I'm guessing in Utah it's very similar to Florida.
And you know, in Colorado from twenty twenty one to
twenty twenty four, we did not see the enormous gains
in real estate that we saw prior to that. We've
been having a real estate run up since I moved
here in twenty thirteen. You know, the value of my
house is more than doubled. Now we've done a lot

(01:36:24):
of renovations, but the value of my house is more
than doubled, and so that was before twenty twenty one,
because real estate prices have been pretty steady since twenty
twenty when COVID hit and people stopped buying houses. I mean, no,
it's not on the blog yet. I'll have it on
the blog tomorrow because I just saw it on X

(01:36:44):
and I will grab it for the blog tomorrow. A
couple stories I want to get to very very quickly. One,
there is another effort to bring a single payer system
to Colorado. They legislature wants to waste money in a
year that they're telling us that they're having a big shortfall,
waste a bunch of money doing yet another study about
the feasibility of single pair in Colorado. This is the

(01:37:06):
same year that Medicaid is going to have to be cut. Now,
remember when Republicans passed a budget which did not specifically
cut Medicaid but asked the Department of Health and Human
Services to find a ton of money. And that ton
of money has to come from somewhere, and the Department
of Health and Human Services only has a few places

(01:37:26):
to get it. And if they're not going to touch Medicare,
then they got to touch Medicaid and everybody's been freaking out.
But in Colorado, it's like, oh yeah, Colorado Medicaid, We're
gonna cut the benefits for some families for certain early
interventions for children. You know why because they expanded the
program in twenty twenty three by expanding Medicaid to people

(01:37:49):
that can indeed afford to buy health insurance from the
exchange with a subsidy, and now they can't afford to
provide the treatment for the children who really really need it. Mandy,
what is the name of that powerful nasal mist? I
need it badly. It's not a mist. It is a
liquid and it is called Alkoh lol a l ka lol.

(01:38:11):
Go to my Facebook page, go to my Twitter page.
I posted it there because it has been a game
changer for me. By the way I said it earlier
in the show, I got a new project coming up.
It doesn't have anything to do with iHeart, So I'm
not gonna be talking about it on iHeart, but I
will be talking about it on my social media and
you should follow me Facebook, Mandy Connell, Twitter, at the

(01:38:33):
Mandy Connell Instagram, at the Mandy Connell as well. I'm
just saying, if you want to know what's going on.
You're gonna want to go ahead and do that, Mandy,
do you know about the economic blackout tomorrow? E This
is another thing that a bunch of people on the
left are doing so they can feel like they're doing

(01:38:55):
something to fight back, to resist. I'm not gonna go
to Big Donald's tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:39:01):
Resist.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
This is a some I don't honestly, I don't know
the details. I saw something on social media and I
rolled my eyes so hard. I had to stop and
like recalibrate my eyeballs because I rolled them back into
my head so far I couldn't see it. And there
before Yeah, uh, Wikipedia says Gene Hackman had three kids,
says this Texter. I just think that's really sad. If
I found out that one of my parents laid dead

(01:39:25):
in their house for so long, they got mommified. I mean,
come on, people, come on when your parents get older.
And here's the thing. I know people have difficult relationships
with their parents. I get it, but this is my
feeling about this. We have a responsibility to our parents,
we really do. We have a responsibility to our parents

(01:39:47):
at the end of their lives. The roles reverse from
the beginning of ours to the end of theirs. We
switch places. And even if you have and I mean,
there are cases where people are horribly abusive, and I
understand severing those relationships completely. I get it. I'm not
trying to make you feel bad, But if you have
any relationship with your parents, you have a responsibility to
just pick up the phone once a week and give

(01:40:09):
them a call. And if no one answers and you
don't hear from them, you send somebody over to do
a well check. That's our responsibility, that's our payback for
them bringing us into this world. Right, I would be
mortified if that happened. I mean, I don't even know
what I would do there. We also have a story
today that I find really really frustrating, and I don't

(01:40:30):
understand why Democrats continue to make it easy to deal
and possess Sentinel Colorado's overdose rates did not match national rates.
National rates drop twenty four percent, overdose deaths all right,
making progress. Not in Colorado. Ours are flat. I guess

(01:40:50):
that's something they're not continuing to go up. That's on
the blog today, A great, great video. So a guy
and anyone do you know anything more about this guy
with the two pay Do you know anything about like
how how did they decide to look under that guy's

(01:41:11):
to pay? You know what I'm saying. Did you think
you went through one of the scanners, the body scanner,
and they're like, yeah, there's something under your.

Speaker 5 (01:41:18):
Hair, maybe some of it fell out, had, yeah, had
sort of What else makes you think.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
That you got to see this video of them cutting
a two pay off this guy's head because underneath it
is ten thousand dollars worth of cocaine. I mean, never
let it be said that cartels are not creative when
it comes to ways to smuggle their garbage into the
United States of America. Mandy, I'm buying gas, going out

(01:41:45):
to eat all weekend, and going to Cabella's. Screw those
blackout people, Mandy, I want to say it all the
belly aching about Elon. I think you mispronounced thank you.
Ooh I like that. Hi, Mandy. I agree. Friends that
send me stuff to not spend money tomorrow makes me
want to go to those places exactly exactly. So let's

(01:42:06):
bring Ben Albright on everybody. Hello, Benjamin, how's it going now?

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Where?

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Oh you guys are at Sam's Number three, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
I'm in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Oh God, you're at the combine one.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
Okay. Then we talked about Travis Hunter wanting to play
both sides of the ball, and the mom and me
is like, this is a terrible idea for the length
of his career. What are your thoughts.

Speaker 13 (01:42:28):
I think there are a lot of times where men
want two things at the same time and they're not
able to handle that, and so I think that you
get to a point where maybe you need to specialize
in just one. In this particular case, I think Travis
is probably a corner in the NFL who gets a
chance to play a little wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
I agree that makes sense, But every snap both sides
of the ball is stupid in the NFL. I'm just
saying his career would be far far shorter than it
would be otherwise, just because the risk of injury.

Speaker 12 (01:42:55):
You know, well, right, And I mean, it's the good
news about the NFL is there are more breaks in
the and there's a college game, so you get more
chances to rest.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
But it's so much difficult. It's just so difficult. Let
me so difficult play one position in the NFL.

Speaker 12 (01:43:06):
Let alone, try to play two and trying to go
to the meetings for the offense and the defense at
the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
Is I think the word you're looking for is impossible.
Impossible to be in two places at the same time
unless he gets that thing Hermione Granger used in the
Harry Potter movies that stop time, so he could be
in both places at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
At this point, though, isn't Harry Potter so old we
have to start calling him Harold?

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
Nobody wants to be called Harold, and let's be real,
nobody wants to be called Harold anyway. Somebody just said
about the guy with the cocaine under his wig. I
pictured dude sneezing and a big poof of white coming
off the top of his head. Okay, that's hilarious. That
video is on the blog today. But now it's time
for the most exciting segment on the radio of its kind.

(01:43:49):
Now you yell in the world, Ben, in the world
of the day. I will accept that, Ben, I will
accept that because you're on location and you're not that
good at it. Anyway.

Speaker 12 (01:44:00):
I couldn't remember which one again, and I was like,
it's rich tell you beforehand.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Next time, I'll give you that I'll tell you beforehand
next time.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Okay, your cards?

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
Yeah, there you go. What's our word of the day? Please, Anthony,
come on, I'm ill, I'm under the weather.

Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:44:15):
I misplaced Dwayne Johnson's cutting tool for that origami workshop.
I can't believe I lost the rocks paper scissors.

Speaker 13 (01:44:26):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:44:28):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
That is a very, very very good one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
What is our word of the day?

Speaker 7 (01:44:33):
Is a verb?

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
I believe it's pronounced yes, doff d o f f
o f f.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
It means to wear something in your cap.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
It's to take it off.

Speaker 4 (01:44:44):
Actually, you're wearing something and then you take it off, Yeah,
you doff it?

Speaker 7 (01:44:48):
To doff a hat or other piece of clothing is
to take it off, correct, all.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Right, you're so flashy, Ben. What does the adjective macro
somatic mean? Wait, macros smatic, macro smatic, No, macro smatic.
What does that mean? Macros smatic?

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:45:07):
Wow, this actually applies to me. I did not know.
I looked at the answer.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
Okay, I am to take a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Well, let me by root word. Let me make a guess.
Is it okaything to do with the old factory senses
it does.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
It means you have a highly developed sense of smell.
I have a very powerful sniffer, A very powerful sniffer.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
It's a super sniffer. If you will, I do, I
really do?

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
I mean you just I'm practically a bloodheld anyway. What
is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 5 (01:45:34):
Jeopardy category is fair fair f A I R F
A r E fair Fan.

Speaker 7 (01:45:41):
You're both on locations, so I guess you guys can
just say whenever.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
Then, yes, yeah, okay, here we go. This carnival treat
is threads of sponge sugar man.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
What is cotton candy?

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
This fried treat is named for the cone shaped utensil through.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
Bitch water fuel cakes. Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
Then we still got ben yeah, bensilar Okay, yeah, I
should understand.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Like the category fair.

Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
It's it's it's food that you eat at the fair.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
That's what I got.

Speaker 7 (01:46:15):
These cheese semi solids are supposed to squeak when you
bite in.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
Herds.

Speaker 7 (01:46:22):
Correct, dusted with sugar and cinnamon. These slender pastries have
a Spanish name. Correct is correct for nothing. Nanny roll
a caramel apple in marshmallows, nuts and chocolate.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
And you have this variation also an ice cream flavor.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
I don't know, but I got the last two. Did
you guys not hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:46:47):
It's just come too late, half second late.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
I don't know what this one is.

Speaker 5 (01:46:50):
What is Rocky Roads.

Speaker 4 (01:46:55):
Apple? Okay, there you go, all right, Benjamin. What do
you guys have coming up today?

Speaker 12 (01:47:01):
Oh? The latest scuttle butt from here at the Combine.
Here in the latest destination on Matt Stafford and if
he could be traded then to a couple of you know, yeah,
I got a chance to talk to a couple of
players today. They were out there at the podium, including
one of Dave Logan's former players.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
So he's out here at the Combine.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
Oh, very nice, little little hometown boy going out there
trying to make a big huh. That's all coming up
on KA Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
We'll be back.

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
Tomorrow for another full show. Oh yeah, that's right, two
days in a row of a full show. So in
the meantime, keep it right here on KOWA