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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No, I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell,
and we've got Zach Feger in today for the vacationing
Anthony Rodriguez.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
You blew it, Sack.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You had one shot, You had one shot. I was
gonna let you do it. And then yeah, I'm not
used to.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Did somebody mess up your layout? I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's got special walls and so oh oh yeah, okay,
I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Boy. Do we have a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Even more stuff happened over the weekend as the fallout
from the disastrous meeting between Zelensky and Trump in the
White House on Friday. And got some stuff on the
blog that, honestly I feel like is mussy. One of
them is a video, and we're gonna get to the
whole blog in just a second. One of them is
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a video with Columbia professor Jeffrey Sachs, and he gave
testimony to the European Union about the situation in Ukraine
and Russia and the history back in twenty twenty two.
It's fascinating, and it's another if he's correct, and I
have no reason to believe that he's not, because he's
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a well respected professor in this area.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
This is sort of his area of expertise.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I actually went back and checked to see how respected
he was when it came to Eastern European politics, and
this is kind of what he does. And he gave
a history lesson that shows once again that American meddling
is almost always worse than if we just let things happen.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And I say that with the you.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Know, sitting here in the luxury of never knowing the alternative,
to be clear, but a lot of us meddling has
kind of gotten us to where we are now. And
that's a fascinating bit. And then I have an interview
with CNN's caitlind Collins and Secretary of State Marc Rubo,
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and that's both of these are on the blog. And
if you've never gone to the blog before, you should
go today, if for no other reason than to watch
these two videos, because they will give you.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
A lot more background.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I also, over the weekend went back and watched the
entire the Lensky presser, the entire thing start to finish,
only this time I watched it, and I only watched
the Lenski the entire time.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You guys, go back and do that, because you know, you.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
See those memes where it's like, oh, you know, me
trying to be subtle, and oh, here's my face giving
it all away. Throughout the entire press conference, he is
mugging at the cameras. Now, I mean, don't get me wrong,
I love a good mug in a right situation. If
you're on the Tonight Show and you're sitting on the
couch and you mug to the cameras and do a
spit take, that's one thing. But when you are sitting
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in a room with honestly the man that you need
to save your nation in any real way, shape or form,
you've got to have this guy on your side. That
is not the time for the rolled eyes, for the
what for the Just go back and watch his facial expressions.
It is extremely telling. And then I watched Lelensky on Brettviaer.
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I mean, I watched a lot of stuff this weekend,
so you people didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But it's made me more certain of a couple of things.
And we're gonna get to that right after we do
the blog.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Which you can find at mandy'sblog dot com. Look for
the headline that says three three twenty five blog A
terrifying prospect from our futurist Thomas Frye. Click on that
and here are the headlines you will find within.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I think it's listening office happen imer goon all with
ships and clippers and say that's sort of press plach.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Today on the blog what would be the most dangerous
disaster you can think of when camping becomes a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
More on the Zelensky dust up.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
How much of this is the fault of the Obama
Biden Foreign policy scrolling scrolling. Zelensky realized my Friday night
he had made a huge error. Europe is trying to
coalesce around some sort of plan Trump seems to be done.
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Speaker 2 (04:06):
When government makes a mockery.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Of open records recrests Excel doesn't really want to sell
the zoo and I steam plant. Yes, federal workers, you
need to be back in the office. Another person hops
into the Colorado GOP chair race. Two Republicans announce for governor.
Soldiers are deploying to the southern border. The oscars were
glamorous and interesting last night. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Digital detox is the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Now, It's okay to call black people coons now, by
the way, that's a headline, But there is more to
that story. It's purposely inflammatory. But I didn't want those
of you who don't go to the blog thinking that
it is actually okay. There's more to that, So I
just want to be clear about that. Who doesn't have
a vacation wedding ring? Johnny Carson's legacy, The fastest way
to get dementia, Jean christ on Internet saviors and seventies
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kids are the toughest kids. Those are the headlines on
the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And you really do
need to go to the blog today and all that
scrolling about the oscars.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I did something that I have not done in a
very very long time.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I gave you my fashion review. Did you watch the
Oscars last night, zach No?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I just read the results after the fact. I watched
the monologue. Though I liked the monologue, I did not
see the monologue. I missed that. But the Oscars were kind.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't want to say they were back baby, but
last night's Oscars were interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You didn't know who was gonna win, you know?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Was it like a done deal where you're going in
everybody already knows who was gonna win everything.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
No, wide open.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
There was a good variety of movies that won for various.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Things, and only one.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Person went political, and it's Daryl Hannah, who I've always
liked Daryl Hannah. But she does not have a whole
bunch of a career right now, so I guess she
was trying to shoot her shot. I don't know whatever
you're gonna you know what you're gonna do? She read,
you know whatever. But the glamor where it was back.
The dresses were spectacular, the men looked good. It was
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it was very, very funny. It was fun to watch,
really fun to watch. There were some fashion hits and
there were some fashion myths.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Woopi Goldberg looked like she was dressed by HEFTI you know,
Emma Stone.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Whoever convinced Emmastone to wear a dress the exact same
color as her skin with absolutely no shape whatsoever needs
to be fired, just make it happen. Selena Gomez absolute
bombshell last night. She looked incredible old Hollywood glamour, and
a lot of people were commenting like, yeah, she was
last week on the internet crying about illegal immigrants getting
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deported and she's wearing a necklace that costs more than
their entire GDP of their country. And I was like, well,
can we just appreciate the look and go from there.
Let's just appreciate the look. But the best part of
the Oscars last night happened when Karen Coulkin won Best
Reporting Actor for his role in Uh, what.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Movie was that?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
A real pain?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
A real pain? That's it? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
And in it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'll play it later in the show because it's just
it's really it's sweet.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Is what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And it's funny and it's engaging and now his wife
has to pop out two more babies and I'll explain
later on in the show because it was really, it
was charming. It was it felt like the Oscars were back.
And you know, I saw some of the movies this year.
Did you see any Oscar movies this year?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
A lot? I think I actually recommended Anora the last time.
I said, yes, you did, you did say Anora was
gonna do.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I still haven't seen it because I'm not paying twenty
bucks for it, because that's how I roll like it'll
be on free streaming when I you know, the streaming
that I already pay for that I'm not going to
pay for, you know again, to see it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'll just wait.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It'll be fine, it'll be fine. It was just it
was really really nice. Now I've got a couple of
guests coming up on the show. I want to ask
this question for our texters. You can text five to sixty.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Six nine zero.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
That's five sixty six nine Oh. You can go ahead
and text the answer to this question what disaster would
create the most havoc in the United States of America?
What disaster do you think that would be? And you
can text the answer to five sixty six nine oh.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Because our future is Thomas.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You guys know I love Thomas. He sends me an email.
In the email let me, I'll just read it to
you guys.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So you just I'm just gonna read it to you
real quick, here, real real quick.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh swat, Why don't I spell his name right when
I search my email? That would probably be extremely helpful.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So Thomas sends me this email that says, Hey, Mandy,
my latest column is a story about what I see
as America's greatest vulnerability, and I was like, well, that
sounds ominous. Wait till you read the story.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Holy crap, you guys, Holy crap.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But I would have never thought about this as being
one of the biggest threats to our entire nation. And
yet when he lays it out, uh huh. I didn't
sleep last night. I was like, Oh my god, Oh
my god, how are we gonna prevent this? How are
we gonna It's like a Tom Clancy novel.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Do you read Tom Clancy? Do you read Zach? Are
you a reader? A reader?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Not Tom Clancy?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Wait about how old are you? How old are you?
Twenty five? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay, So I believe that when you turn twenty six
as a male, you have to.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Start reading Tom Clancy novels.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I think that that's like in the Code, maybe thirty,
it might be thirty. You may have a few more
years before you have to read twelve pages of.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Weapons systems in a Tom Clancy book.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But every guy I know went through the Tom Clancy
phase right where you just have to read. But they're
incredibly good, so it's not like you're gonna have to
suffer through. But his plot lines and devices are very
very you know, very clever, and very scary. And that's
how I feel about Thomas the story. We're gonna talk
about it one o'clock today. Terrifying and if you want
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to text me what age men are required to start reading?
Tom Clancy, I appreciate that as well. A lot of
you were saying an EMP, and that is scary to me,
except I think that there is a finite amount of
space where an E. I don't think you could do
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an EMP that would take the whole country out. At
the same time, I think that it's unless they did
multiple EMPs of the Oh crap, now, I'm not going
to sleep tonight either.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean, but an EMP would be a localized outage
and it would be catastrophic.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It would be terrible, but it is not remotely as.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Catastrophic as the scenario that Thomas lays out that, by
the way, wouldn't be that hard to make happen. That
doesn't sound a year younger than seventies, Zach. I think
someone took a shot.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's how I mean. I think that that would take
a shot.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, power outage, loss of electricity, solar flare biggest disaster
for the USA and all out nuclear Yeah, that would
be terrible. But I mean, when you guys hear it
one what Thomas is laid out, or you can go
read the story yourself because I linked it on the
blog today. Oh greatest threat says this text no more
cars for kids commercials? Really, because that is a threat
(11:17):
I am willing to live with. I mean, if we
if that on a threat, I mean, is that a promise?
Don't don't don't don't you tempt me with a good time, mister,
don't you do it?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Is it really true? This text?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Or asked that there was an amendment proposed for the
US president to be elected up to three terms. They're
so this crazy and it's getting out of me out
of here. What that didn't make any sense. Donald Trump
is going to ruin this world and I do not
like working I've been Trump is bowling and some of
the stuff he's doing right now, it's just not okay.
You know, it's not okay your grammar texture. I'm just
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gonna say it. This text is a mess. But I
think I get the gist. The gist is that some
idiots proposed an amendment to the Constitution that would allow
president to serve three terms.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And I'm sure I don't even have to look.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'm sure that somewhere there's an idiot who has already
done that in order to suck up to the Trump administration, possibly,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Try and get some kind of appointment to something.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh yeah, there's always a rube out there willing to
do the dumb ass stuff. But I'm here to tell
you right now, I would not vote for that. I
would not because guess what, at some point the other
team is gonna be in charge again. You gotta always
remember that. And anytime we go monkey around with the
stuff that's been working pretty good right about now. We
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don't need less term limits. We need more term limits.
Now we need to do Congress. Mandy started in the
mid twenties while in the army.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So Jack gets your time.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So he says, have Zach start with Red Storm Rising
before the Jack Ryan series. So you get the rights
that you've got bidden given your assignment, you've got your
walking paper.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Added it to my list.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's time to step into your Tom Clancy phase. Okay,
you're gonna be a lot smarter about weapons systems by
the time you get done.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Try and trust me on that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
We also have a guest today, and you know, I
realize that you guys don't all live in Douglas County,
and I want to make an offer. If you guys,
in wherever you are, whether it is your town, whether
it is your city commission, whatever level of government, is
doing dumbass shady stuff, if you send it to me,
I will amplify it on this program because I enjoy
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amplifying the dumb, idiotic, shady stuff that the Douglas County
Board of County Commissioners is generally up to. I live
in Douglas County. I know you guys don't all live
in Douglas County. I thought about today. I'm like, you
know what, we should all be on the lookout for
this kind of sneaky, underhanded, disson as sort of behavior,
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and then we should amplify it no matter where it is. Now,
if your town is a town of four hundred and
fifty people, maybe I won't give it as long a
segment as I would somebody who's calling about something happened
in Jefferson County. But I need to get better at this.
But I don't know unless you guys tell me so.
If you see something shady you let me know and
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I will amplify it. And today's shady bit of business
is just another example when government says, uh, yeah, we're
gonna do this thing, and everybody goes no, and then
government goes no no, everybody really wants it, and you
go show us and they're like no, no, no, trust us, No,
there is no trust none whatsoever. So I've got a
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reporter from the Rocky Mountain View excuse me, the Rocky
Mountain Voice coming up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Jen Schumann has been following.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The latest bit of nonsense about a board of county
commissioners that is just ignoring people when they're saying please
don't do that, while not providing any evidence that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
There is anyone saying please do do this.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And with this group, I wonder who's getting rich and
how that's honestly how I feel at this point. I
don't know anything about the new guy. I'll see how
he votes, but I've been told he's just a rubber stamp.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So there you go. Mandy. It's been.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Three thousand, three hundred and thirty one days since inauguration
Day twenty sixteen, and my greatest fear is Trump is
going to destroy the world as soon.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
As he's elected. Okay, that's actually.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Very funny, very funny, because yeah, democracy still here, Zach.
Have you gotten your notice that all elections have been
canceled going forward?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
No, I haven't gotten.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Nice dang it, we're like five weeks in.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I thought he would have destroyed that part of democracy
right away, you know, he was like, that should be
number one. I mean, I still have a job, so
my key card work today when I got here, so
I haven't been fired and forced back into the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Although that would be nice, you know, be nice to
not have to pay attention to this anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Anyway, Mandy, take a look at the town of Dylan, Colorado.
Hot mess is a massive understatement. Me an email tip
Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Give me a news story to.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Look into, give me a person to call, give me
something and I will.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Mandy.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm still mad we don't have answers about the shady
stuff that Colorado Springs mayor did.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Uh wait, where did it go?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Just updated Colorado Springs mayor was involved in that story disappeared?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes it did. And you know, I like Mayor, Yemmy.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I like the fact that he seems to have a
very pragmatic stance. But now we find out he may
have colluded, and he says absolutely he.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Did not what long phone calls.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Text messages, et cetera, et cetera. It doesn't look that good.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He said.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
At some point he would release a letter saying that
the FBI named him a victim, not a perpetrator. But
I don't believe that was ever released. So I'm with you, Texter.
You got any news, I'm telling you, you just send it, Mandy.
You just said do do. Thank you, Texter, Thank you, Mandy.
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Illinois Farmore Hill here in Illinois County A joining the
Mississippi River below Saint Louis. We are above the three
hundred foot bluff. Oh I can't. I'm not giving that
up yet, Texter text back at three pm.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But you're right, You're right. I'm just saying, Mandy.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Trump is definitely running things like this is his last term,
which it is, but he doesn't give a leap and
I love it. I'm telling you, guys, I think that
he had the like four years to just plan and
not plan revenge, not plan, you know, although revenge may
be a part of the bigger issue of what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think he had a long time to plan on
a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
This is what we're seeing right now, I feel like,
is the first set of plays in any football game.
It has already been mapped out. Right we're not even
to the first drive and to the first drive right now,
all of these plays have been mapped out. We haven't
got to the part we're flying by the seat of
our pants yet. We're not in that part of the game.
We're in the very beginning of the first quarter, first
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two minutes of the first quarter. So I think that
anyone who like and I said it last Friday talking
about the Zelensky thing, you cannot look at that in
a vacuum of that individual only Ukraine situation, because there's
so much other stuff at play, the relationship with China,
you know, how to figure out how to peel rush
away from China, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Just trying to get a deal done.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And I've got audio from Secretary of State Marco Rubio
on with Caitlin Collins that is simply outstanding when it
comes to explaining exactly why Friday went down the way
it went down, And you can see the frustration on
Marco Rubio's face when he talks about it. If I
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have time, I'm going to play that interview in the
next segment because I think it's valuable and you guys
need to hear it, and nobody watches CNN anymore, so
I have to make sure.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
People see it. Anyway, we'll be right back, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We're gonna jump right into this because I have a
lot of audio that I want to play. I'm just
going to start at the beginning of the interview that
Secretary of State Marco Rubio did with CNN's Caitlin Collins,
and she jumps right in at the very beginning with
the question that we all want to know the answer to,
and is that is do you owe President Trump an apology?
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Now this was had enough time a little separation here
from the meeting. But one thing you can't hear is
I play this was the obvious irritation all.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Over Mark Rubio's face.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now I'm not best friends with Marco Rubio, but I've
known him since before he was a senator. I helped
him actually get through his primary in Florida and helped
raise indirectly a cropload of money for him in Southwest
Florida when he was running for the US Senate against
the worst man for Charlie Christ. And he's a very
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good politician. And I see that in the sense that
politicians smallp that he's.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Good at hiding the way he feels.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
He's good at, you know, maintaining a proper level of decorum.
That if you watch this interview when I embedded it
on the blog today so you can, you will quickly
understand that he's he was fed up.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But listen to how this starts.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Thoris tonight is the Secretary of State who is in
that room today, Marco Rubio. Thank you so much, Secretary
of Rubio for being here. We just heard from from
President Zelenski. He said he does not think that he
owes President Trump an apology for what happened inside the
Oval office today.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Do you feel otherwise?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
I do.
Speaker 10 (20:42):
I do, because you guys don't see. You guys only
saw the end. You saw what happened today. You don't
see all the things that led up to this. So
let me explain. The President's been very clear he campaigned
on this. He thinks this wor should have never started.
He believes, and I agree that had he been president.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
And never would have happened. Now here we are. He's
trying to bring an end to the conflict.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
We've explained very clearly what our plan is here, which
is we want to get the Russians to a negotiating table.
We want to explore whether peace is possible. They understand this.
They also understand that this agreement that was supposed to
be signed today was supposed to be an agreement that
binds America economically to Ukraine, which to me, as I've
explained and I think the President alluded to today, is a
security guarantee in its own way, because we're involved, it's
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now us, it's our interests. That was all explained, that
was all understood, and nonetheless, for the last ten days,
in every engagement we've had with the Ukrainians, there's been
complications in getting that point across, including the public statements
that President Zelensky has made.
Speaker 11 (21:37):
But they insisted on coming to d C.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
This agreement could have been signed five days ago, but
they insisted on.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
Coming to Washington. And it was a very and should
have been a very clear understanding.
Speaker 10 (21:45):
Don't come here and create a such scenario where you're
going to start lecturing us about how diplomacy isn't going
to work as President Zelenski took it in that direction
and it ended in a predictable outcome as a result.
It's unfortunate that wasn't supposed to be this way, but
that's the half he chose.
Speaker 11 (22:01):
And I think, frankly, you.
Speaker 10 (22:02):
Know, the country backwards in regards to achieving peace, which
is what President Trump.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
Wants at the end of the day, is for this
war to end.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
If he's been as consistent as anyone can be about
what his objective is here.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Now, I want to just walk that back for just
a little bit because the notion that somehow, and I
said what I said on Friday was I honestly believe
jd Vance would not have gone after Zolensky without having
tacit approval from Trump, right, I don't think he would
have done that. I don't think anybody thought it was
going to escalate the way that it did.
Speaker 11 (22:36):
Well, what Mark Rubio.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Is saying here is that, look, we have been trying
to explain to the Ukrainians that the security there is
an implicit security guarantee if we say, okay, now we
are doing business with you.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And they're right. I mean, the reality is.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Is this this would put US in a situation where
we would have to go to war for rare earths,
not oil. Remember everybody said we went into a rack
because of oil, right, that was the war for oil.
If we entered into a business relationship on rare earth
minerals in Ukraine and Russia rolled in and interrupted our business,
then we're going to war for essentially rare earth minerals.
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So that's what that deal would have done. But implied
there is that we now have a vested interest in
what happens to Ukraine because right now.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Ukraine is just fighting a proxy.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
War with Russia for US that we're not involved in directly.
So I'll let them continue. Kitlin Collins has another question, well.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
What specifically do you want to see President Zelenski apologize
for now?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
First of all, this is a stupid follow up question.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
This is a stupid follow.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Up question designed to gin up more controversy. He already said, look,
I think he should apologize, and that Caitlyn Collins won't
just let it go. She has to ask what I
think again is a as a dumb follow up question,
and I'll let Marco Rubio answering well.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
Apologize for turning this thing into the fiasco for him
that it became there was no need for him to
go in there and become antagonistic.
Speaker 11 (24:11):
Look, this thing went off the rails.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
You were there.
Speaker 10 (24:13):
I believe it went off the rails when he said,
let me ask you a question, to the Vice president,
what kind of diplomacy are you talking about?
Speaker 11 (24:19):
Well, this is a serious thing.
Speaker 10 (24:20):
I mean thousands of people have been killed, thousands, and
he talks about all these horrible things that have happened
to prisoners of war and children, all true, all bad.
This is what we're dealing with here. It needs to
come to an end. We are trying to bring it
to an end. The way you bring it to an
end is you get Russia to the table to talk.
Speaker 11 (24:37):
And he understands that attacking Putin.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
No matter how anyone may feel about him, personally forcing
the president into a position where you're trying to got
him into attacking Putin, calling him names, maximalist demands about
Russia having to pay for the reconstruction, all the sorts
of things that you talk about in the negotiation, Well,
when you start talking about that aggressively, and the president's
a deal maker, he's made deals his entire life, you're
not going to people to the table, and so you
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start to perceive that maybe Zelensky doesn't want a peace deal.
He says he does, but maybe he doesn't. And that active,
open undermining of efforts to bring about peace is deeply
frustrating for everyone who's been involved in communications.
Speaker 11 (25:14):
With them leading up to today.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
And I think I can apologize for wasting our time
for a meeting that was going to end the way
it did.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So let's just talk about this for a second, because
over the weekend a few things happened. First of all,
Zelensky went to Europe, where he was welcome with open arms,
and Europe just could not wait to tell him how
they were going to support him, and this was going
to be amazing and they may even send boots on
the ground if the United States issues a security guarantee
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to back them up. You know, Europe can't even issue
their own security guarantees without US behind them.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
This is how ill prepared Europe.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Is to defend themselves. This has long been a bone
of contention for me, and it's coming to a head
right now between Trump pushing on NATO spending and now
you've got you know, Europe essentially wanting to outsource or
in the worst case scenario, Europe is advocating to fund
both sides of this war because German business.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I have this story on the blog today.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
German business is now asking to be able to buy
more Russian oil and gas because Germany is shutting down
their successful nuclear power plants. Has created an energy crisis
in Germany that is destroying German industry. So they need
access to cheap power and they need it now. So
they're essentially the EU spent more buying oil.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And gas from Russia last.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Year than they gave an aid to Ukraine. Does that
not make sense? I mean, really, honestly, make that make
sense to me? And nobody none.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Of these people.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Look I watched the coverage on BBC, I read about
it in European newspapers.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Everybody saying will.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Stand with Ukraine, but nobody says until they win. And
here's what that looks like. Not one single person is saying, well.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What does victory look like?
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Here?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Is it just pushing Russia back to the boundaries that
they were in before. They're never going to get back Crimea,
that's that ship sailed during the Obama administration.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'll play the rest of this when we get back.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
But man, lots and lots of interesting stuff about this,
and I just have I have a video of President
Trump from I don't know if it was Friday or Saturday.
I think Friday afternoon where you can look at him
and he's like, yeah, Okay, he can come back when
he's ready, but I'm he's I'm kind of done, and
that is not good for Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
What's going to be fascinating?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh, the other thing that happened this weekend, to Marco
Rubio's point about Zelenski not wanting peace, he said over
the weekend that the end of the war was a very,
very very far away, and I was like, what, you're
asking everyone else to pay for it, but you're gonna
call the shots on when it gets over. That's not
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how it works, at least not this time, at least
not in the US. Maybing so Kira for the indefinite future,
I don't know. Fascinating, fascinating world events.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Just fascinating.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
We'll get back to this interview right after this, to
this interview between Caitlin Collins and Secretary of starring Mark
or Rubio. But he's shedding more light on the events
that occurred before the White House meltdown of President Zelensky.
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And I'm calling it a meltdown because I went back
and I rewatched the entire thing, and I just watched
President Zelensky during the press conference. And if you do
the same, you will begin to see why patience was thin.
By the end of the press conference, he is mugging
for the care.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
He's making faces.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
At one point, Trump says something like, oh, where this
trusted partner, and he gives that looks as like, well, maybe, I.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Mean not even subtle, really egregious.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I think he came in to try and embarrass the
White House into giving him what he wanted, which was
a full throated commitment that the United States of America
was on the Ukraine side. And Donald Trump is trying
to get people to the table. Caitlin Collins continues.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
You yourself have said previously that Putin cannot be trusted in negotiations,
and that was the point that President Zelunsky was ultimately
making during that conversation, is that there cannot be an
agreement without security guarantees. Because he was talking about all
the ceasefire agreements before, or agreements that.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Putin has just blown past.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I mean, do you still feel that way that Putin
cannot be trusted in these negotiations?
Speaker 10 (29:54):
Well, I was there yesterday when the President sat in
front of the media that our approach is going to
be trust would verify Donald Trump is President Trump's made
deals his entire life. He's not going to get suckered
into some deal that's not a real deal.
Speaker 11 (30:05):
We all understand this.
Speaker 10 (30:07):
We understand it on our end for certain, and so
the goal here is to get to a place.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
We have to explore whether peace is possible. I've said
this repeatedly.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
I think it is based on what they've said so far,
but we have to explore that.
Speaker 11 (30:18):
How else is this war going to end? I ask
people what is the European plan to end this war?
Speaker 10 (30:23):
I can tell you what one for a minister told me,
and I'm not going to say who it was, but
I can tell you what one of them told me,
and that is that the war goes on for another year,
and at that point Russia will feel so weakened that
they'll beg for a piece. That's another year of killing,
another year of dying, another year of destruction, and by
the way, not a very realistic plan in my point
of view. So if there's a chance of peace, even
if it's a one percent chance, that needs to be explored.
Speaker 11 (30:45):
And that's what President Trump is trying to do here.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So he's not wrong, first of all.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And I keep asking people like, what exactly what does
victory look like? How do you see Ukraine winning this war.
They're not going to beat Russia. They're not going to
storm to Moscow and end up, you know, flying their
flag over the Kremlin. That's never going to happen. A
negotiated piece is the only way I find that fascinating.
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And I believe Secretary of State Marko Rubio and he says, look,
other world leaders are like, let him grind it out.
That benefits China a great deal as well. By the way,
notice China's been notably quiet when it comes to the
war in Ukraine. I don't think they've been offering a
tremendous amount of assistance to Russia. Maybe they have, and
I don't know about it, but I look at Pravda
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maybe once every two weeks. Pravda is their Russian newspaper, which,
by the way, Google will translate into English. Bad English,
but English, I haven't seen anything about a special relationship
with China back. Why would that be, Because if they
can grind Russia down in Ukraine and then China makes
a move on Siberia, which also is full of rare
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earth minerals, they're going to be unable to fight back
against a far superior just like Russia is superior to Ukraine.
When it comes to the size of the nation, the
number of people, the ability to sustain a long term war,
China outstrips Russia a million times. So I think Zelensky
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came in and he thought he was going to get
air support bye by embarrassing President Trump, and boy, boy,
did he miscalculate.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I'll let him finish up the interview.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
President Trump said just when he was leaving the White
House after that meeting that he doesn't think President Zelensky
wants peace. But isn't that why the Ukrainian leader was
in the Oval Office for that meeting today?
Speaker 11 (32:33):
Well, he was in the.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
Oval Office to sign a minerals rights deal. That's what
he was in the Oval Office to sign today. But again,
when you have comments that deliberately appear to be deliberately,
I mean, after having discussed this repeatedly, deliberately appear to
be geared towards making.
Speaker 11 (32:46):
The argument that peace is not possible.
Speaker 10 (32:48):
You know, again, I turned to the he turns to
the vice president. What kind of diplomacy here are you
talking about? Almost as if to say, these people, you
can't deal with them, can't you can't have any negotiations
with Putin because he can't be trusted and you're just
wasting your time on negotiations. Well, he's directly basically undermining
everything the President has told him he's trying to do.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
Look, there's no need for that.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
You start to suspect, does he really want an end
of this war? Does he just think that, you know,
we have to do whatever he says and give him
anything he wants without any endgame. That was the Biden strategy.
That was the Biden strategy. We were funding a stalemate.
We're funding a meat grinder, and unfortunately for the Ukrainians,
the Russians have more meat to grind, and they don't
care about human life.
Speaker 11 (33:26):
We've seen it human waves and North Koreans, et cetera.
And so this is a very complex thing.
Speaker 10 (33:32):
It's very delicate, it's very costly, it's very bloody.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
It needs to be brought to an end.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
But it isn't going to be brought to an end
with public pronouncements and maximalism demands in the public. But
in real diplomacy, the Vice President was right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
All right, you guys, there's a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You can watch the whole thing on the blog at
mandy'sblog dot com. But you begin to understand that, you know,
Zelensky was there on Friday for a very specific purpose,
and that was to sign.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
The rere men World's deal.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
And the rere Minerals deal gives the United States a
vested interest in the country of Ukraine, therefore implicit security guarantees.
What Zelensky is looking for is American air power. That's
what he wants. He wants American airpower. And instead of
coming and signing the deal and then going behind closed
doors and negotiating for American air power, he decided to
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air his grievances and his dirty laundry in public and
it just did not go well for him at all
at all. Now I'm gonna shift gears because I can't
talk about this.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Although it's fascinating, the machinations of this are absolutely fascinating.
They're incredibly important as well. But I've got something even
more terrifying coming up on the other side. At one o'clock,
our futurist Thomas Fry has come up with a story
that lays out what would almost assuredly be the worst
disaster in the history of the United States that would
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permanently alter the country. And when you hear it, you're
not going to sleep tonight. I didn't sleep last night.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Here's Thomas. He's coming up next well for blah blah.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Welcome in the second hour of the show. I'm your host,
Mandy Colin here until three pm. Zach figures in for
Anthony Rodriguez, and as we do once a month, we
bring one of my favorite guests on. He is our futurist,
Thomas Fry. All he does is think about the future,
and normally he comes on, we talk about cool stuff
that's going to be happening in education or with medicine.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Or technology or some like, and.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
By the time I leave, I'll like excited for the future.
And this weekend Thomas sends me an article and he's like, hey,
you ever thought about the whole bunch of different creative
ways we could all die and destroy the country. No,
I had not, Thomas, thanks a lot. But now he's
on to talk about a story. We'll call it a
not a prediction. It's not like your nostra damas, Thomas,
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but you have it. It's called the Canyon Fairy Disaster.
How a single event can reshape in a and it's
kind of a speculative story of what could happen, correct.
Speaker 12 (36:05):
Right, right, This is all about the Canyon Ferry Dam
up in western Montana, which has the potential. See the
Missouri Mississippi river system in the US is the second
longest river system in the world other than the Nile
and if something happened to this river system, it could
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literally cut our country in half.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
And that's.
Speaker 12 (36:32):
I grew up in South Dakota, and I grew up
on close to the river, and I spent my childhood
driving around fields with a John Deer tractor thinking about
things like this, And so that's where this came from.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Well, in a lot of people don't realize there's a
lot of cities and towns that have been built along
the river beds because it's very fertile land. You have
farming communities there, but lots of cities have come up
around the rivers across the country because of shipping lanes
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So tell people about.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The Canyon Faerry disaster or potential in your estimation. Let's
start with let's just set the tail right now. It's
May of some future year. We're at the end of
the snow melt things. There's I mean, we're at the
beginning of the snow melt. Things are starting to move along.
And what do you think is going to happen or
could happen.
Speaker 12 (37:27):
Yeah, the way I tell the story is that this
is a potential disaster. That the dams have all filled
up along the Missouri River and also on the Mississippi,
and terrorists decide to actually plant bombs in the Canyon
Ferry Dam, which is in a very remote area of Montana,
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way up in the mountains. And then at the worst
possible time, at midnight, then an explosion goes off in
terras Edama Park and that starts the water rolling, and
it starts going from western Montana, cutting through all the
little little towns and cities along the way.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
But then it picks up speed as it.
Speaker 12 (38:13):
Goes and it picks up more water because there's water
already in the river and so that it has this
cumulative effect, and so this turns into this giant wall
of water cutting through all the way through Montana.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
And then the first major dam that.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
It would wipe out would be the Fort Peck Dam
in Montana, and then it would go on to the
Garrison Reservoir in North Dakota, and then wipe out the
Owahee Reservoir in South Dakota. And there's a series of
small hydroelectric dams along the way that it would also
wipe out. And then the first major city that it
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would hit it would hit Omaha, and then Kansas City,
and then Saint Louis and then Memphis, and then go
all the way down to New Orleans, and so it
wipes out four state capitals along the way, and in
the process it's a loall of water. And this is
an event that would unfold over a period of ten
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to twelve days, a really long, groelling period of time,
where we would probably send news crews out and they'd
have helicopters flying over the front edge of the wall
of water coming down the river and people would be evacuated,
but it would just destroy all the bridges, all of
the dams and literally cut the country in half, as
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many millions of people would lose their homes in the process.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
And the thing that got me because how much water
are we talking about here? I mean, like, are we
talking a billions of gallons of water that would be
gathered up as it hit each reservoir in each dam.
I mean, because I don't think when you think about
it in terms of when you look at when there
is a big flood event in along one of these rivers,
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because they happen every so often, they have one hundred
year flood or a fifty year flood or whatever, and
you see how much of the floodplain is actually inhabited.
There are houses in the floodplain. It's your point. There
are also state capitals, there are also major cities. And
a flood is a slightly different kind of recovery because,
unlike a tornado, which may tear up some of the infrastructure,
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a flood can take out all of the infrastructure, the roads,
the bridges, the everything. And then what happens to the
water that I mean, does it eventually go down because
it runs out of that stored water. What happens in
the endgame of this.
Speaker 12 (40:41):
Yeah, eventually we'll drain out through the Mississippi River, but
it's a long drawn out process, and it just destroys
so many houses and so many bridges and so many
communities along the way. And the fact that country is
cut in half, it just separates cities in half. So
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there's no way of driving back and forth. We can't
truck anything back and forth.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
The only way we process to start flying.
Speaker 12 (41:13):
And so when you when you think about that, all
the bridges are gone, and so then we'd have to
suddenly start figuring out, well, how do we build a
bridge across this thing? And these are wide bodies of water.
These rivers are huge, and.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They'd be what twenty four times as wide if this happened,
they'd be even wider the Mississippi, And some place is
like a mile wide, isn't it.
Speaker 12 (41:38):
It's even wider than that a lot of places. It
gets to be quite quite a huge body of water.
So then we would essentially have to start over. But
the key question is is can this be prevented? And
is there some stoftgap measures that can be implemented that
would make.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
It so that this couldn't happen, Like what well. As
an example, you're probably aware.
Speaker 12 (42:10):
Of the runaway truck ramps that semi issues on the interstate.
If they get out of control, they just go up
these runaway truck ramps. Well, the same thing could be
done with the rivers, and that they could actually be split.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
And so that half of the river.
Speaker 12 (42:28):
Would go off into this other area of fields and things.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
So that would actually reduce the water going down the river.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
So you would just have a essentially a fake island
periodically down these rivers. Would it just be every miles
or how many miles where you would just have what
a big concrete barrier that would redirect water if it
came far enough out of the banks.
Speaker 12 (42:54):
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how this would be designed,
but a lot of times the river goes around corner.
So if going around the corner you just make one
route goes straight and the other routes continues down the
normal path, that that could actually drain off a huge
amount of water just allowing it to go off straight.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
And I'm not sure.
Speaker 12 (43:18):
I'm not a water engineer, I don't know how to
design things like this, but it would it's logical that
that would be a good option.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
The problem is is that water always finds its way
back to the lowest point. You know that is I
lived in a cabin in Florida where we had floods
on a regular basis that came. Our house was on
fifteen feet stilts, and I got very very good at
understanding flood.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Patterns because regardless of where.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
You redirect that water, as soon as it can, it's
going to rejoin that river just from the natural topography.
So I think you would have to maybe have a
sort of a false reservoir prepared almost where you earth
and dams that And I'm just wondering environmentalists would never
let that happen.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
We're so screwing Thomas. Why did you tell me this?
Why do I know this?
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I got a lot of questions.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I got a lot of questions from our text line,
and some of them are very very good.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
If Damn number one is blown.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Wouldn't you drain all the reservoirs below it in anticipation
of the water from Damn number one? So it wouldn't
be a cumulative effect, but a big slug of water
coming down.
Speaker 12 (44:31):
Absolutely, you drain all the water out and it's still
won't hold it though.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Because it's coming down so fast.
Speaker 12 (44:41):
Yeah, it's coming down so fast, and this is cumulative effect.
You can't you can't drain an entire reservoir like that
just in a single day, right, And it reaches the
first dam in four Peck, Montana in less than a day.
And uh, and that's a huge body of water.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Well, I want to we haven't even touched on what
happens after all these dams blow. But I have a
couple of questions. These two kind of go hand in hand.
Mandy Illinois farm boy Again, isn't he worried about giving
terrorists another scenario to consider? And I'm going to add
it with this question, Mandy, has there ever been captured
information from terrorists which you have constructed such a plan
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that from dating?
Speaker 5 (45:26):
Yeah? Great question.
Speaker 12 (45:29):
I've been told that anything that I can think of, the.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Terrorists have already thought of.
Speaker 12 (45:36):
This is just one example, probably one of the worst
examples that could be somebody can implement. But there's also
dams in the Ukraine, there's dams in California.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Literally all over the world, we've.
Speaker 12 (45:49):
Built dams and similar situations like this could happen, and
virtually any of them. So I really think that we
need to create systems where this can't happen, to fortify
the dams, to create monitoring systems so that nothing can
go wrong.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
And I'm not sure what the.
Speaker 12 (46:12):
Right solution is, but I'm in favor of making people
aware that this is a possibility and actually coming up
with the right plan so that can happen.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
So, first of all, someone says Thomas Fryes diabolical. Yes
he is a crafty man. But let me talk about
what happens after. Okay, let's just assume this has happened.
Now we've already sort of covered a little bit, although
I don't think people would understand the scale of the destruction,
meaning the floodwaters would take out thousands of hundreds of
thousands of homes and businesses and destroy a huge swath
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of the economy while cutting the country in half. In
terms of land travel, you would either have to take
a ferry or fly to get over this water mass.
And then we haven't even talked about the fact that
these reservoirs and dams vibe drinking water two hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of people. So what happens in the
immediate aftermath and then what happens in the long term
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aftermath of this.
Speaker 12 (47:12):
Yeah, it's it's a massive recovery effort. Well, the first
thing is to make sure everybody's evacuated. The tricky part
will be the small towns real close to where the
Canyon Ferry dam is, so so those people will have
very little notice. The other ones might have a day
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or several days notice, and so their evacuation time stretches
out so that they can plan for this. But as
this is going along, and I've been speculating that there
will be helicopters flying on the front edge of the
bank of water coming down the river, and uh, they're
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they're they're actually alerting people as they go to make
sure that they're there's no stragglers left behind.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
But then they can they can everybody gets out of
the way.
Speaker 12 (48:06):
So the depth count I think would be relatively low,
but the overall destruction amount is relatively high.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
But now after the event, you've now you don't have
fresh water for hundreds of thousands of people, because you've
there's nothing worse than being in a flood and not
having water, which sounds counterintuitive, but I've had this happen
to me.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Where you don't have any water to drink.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
You got water everywhere, but you don't have any water
to drink, So that becomes a humanitarian crisis of massive
proportions instantly in terms of people having access to water
that will not kill.
Speaker 9 (48:43):
Them right right, They'll have to be a massive effort
undertaken to just truck water into all these communities around
the river.
Speaker 5 (48:55):
And also there's some filtration.
Speaker 12 (48:58):
Systems that will work where they can just take the
river water and filter it in a way that it's
actually clean enough to drink. So having things like that
ready to go will be real important. And then it's
a matter of getting food and transportation because a lot
of people will lose their cars and their transportation along
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the way, and families can get cut in half as well,
so half are on one side of the river and
half are on the other. And then the airlines will
have to try to pick up the slack, and they're
not prepared for the amount of travel that will happen
over the coming days. It will be a staggering number
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of people that will want to just go across the
river to beat up with the rest of their family
or their friends or whoever.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Well, this to me, and I've always thought an EMP
is the most terrifying possibility. I think EMPs are really
from a strategic standpoint, But my goodness, it would be
far easier to pull this off than it would to
try and get an EMP to blow up at the
right place to take out our electricity grids. So thanks
Thomas for the stuff that nightmares are made of. This
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is I guess it's yet another thing. I do feel
like our electrical grid in this country is very very fragile.
I feel like now I feel like our damn system
is very very fragile, and it's nerve wracking.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Because we all take all of this stuff for granted.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Right in my lifetime, I have never had to worry
about not being able to get fresh water ever. I
mean maybe on a temporary basis when I'm flooded, but
I've never been able.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I've never had to worry.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
About not having power for you know, a year. But
the reality is is these are the kind of things
that we have to worry about and plan for because
if I'm a bad actor, those are the things I'm
going after because they create the biggest amount of havoc
and long term damage in the shortest amount of time.
Speaker 12 (50:59):
Yeah, I was stranded in Hurricane Helene and we were
without power for eleven days, which just seemed like an
interminable amount of time. And then getting gasoline to put
into a generator, you had to wait in line for
two to three hours at gas stations to get the gasoline. Now,
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that'll be small potatoes compared to what happens on a
disaster like this, because people will try to buy generators
wherever they can. There's not enough generators to be found
on the planet for the number of people that would
need them, and then the gasoline would would be gone.
And also the number of hydroelectric plants that would be
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destroyed along the way would also be staggering. So this
is a permanent loss, or a loss until they can
be recovered, which is my guess is probably six to
twelve months before anything can get started.
Speaker 5 (52:01):
Up in the power area again. So yeah, the number.
Speaker 12 (52:07):
Of issues that you have to deal with suddenly becomes
just staggering.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
This is honestly the most terrifying scenario I can possibly
think of. So thanks a lot, Thomas, because I already
often don't sleep well because of my MP fear, and
now we know we have a text who said, Thomas
or how is this compared to the Teton River dam
failure in the mid seventies.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
I don't know about that one.
Speaker 5 (52:32):
Yeah, I'm not familiar with that one.
Speaker 12 (52:34):
But that one didn't go all the way through, at
least to my knowledge, it didn't affect any other dams.
But there's a lot of dams that could blow out
and actually wipe out a huge community.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
And it can be on the East coast and west coast,
to be up.
Speaker 12 (52:55):
In Canada, can Men, in South America, in Asia.
Speaker 5 (53:01):
This is this is just one example.
Speaker 12 (53:03):
It's probably one of the more staggering examples, but it's
one that I'm familiar with, so that's why I wrote
about it.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Well, you did a good job. The story is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
It sounds like a Tom Clancy novel, but it's it's
something we just we have to think.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
About this stuff. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
This is not an exciting thing to think about. What
do we do if a bland a dam blows up?
Speaker 2 (53:26):
But it could be so destructive.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Just look at what they're dealing with in North Carolina
with a minor flood in compared to this, right, I
mean they can't even get back on.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Their feet now.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
So if you think the government is overwhelmed now by
those kind of disasters, they would be absolutely put under
by something like this.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
So thanks for that, Thomas. Good to talk to you,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Try and find something positive, upbeat and awesome to talk
about next.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Week if you are next month, if we could.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Okay, we'll do all right.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
That's Thomas Fire. Everybody.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
You can find him at futurest Speaker dot com if
you'd like to find out more information. All right, So, yeah,
I didn't know you needed that in your life, did you.
When we get back, I have I have so much
stuff on the blog that's related to the Trump Zelenski
blow up that I have to talk about.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
It again even though I wasn't. But when we get back.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
From this segment, I want to talk about a couple
things local.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Remember when I talked about the zoo.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
And I steam plant and debacle That's what I'm gonna
call it, because it's already it's already headed to debacle
territory and lots of people jumping in to race for
various offices.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
We'll talk about some of that stuff right after this.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Top of the hour, But I got a lot of
stuff that's local that I find really interesting. Here's something,
two thousand four cars soldiers are headed down to the
southern border, and that's kind of a big deal. So
it's a deployment. At least it's not a deployment to
some you know, horrible war zone overseas. It's still a deployment,
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and I'm wondering what that looks like, what exactly is
going to happen. But that is going to be happening
here quite quickly. So that is on the blog as well.
I mentioned this earlier, but if you haven't been to
Mandy's blog dot com, you are missing my review of
the best and worst of the Oscar dresses last night.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
It's on there. You're welcome now. The other day I
was talking about.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
The Zunai steam plant, and I have started already calling
this the Zunai steam plant debacle.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Because I saw the writing on the wall.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
So here's the story about the big abandoned steam plant.
Back one hundred years ago, a lot of buildings in
downtown Denver were heated using steam. This is a lot
of older big cities have this as some like in
New York, there's still some buildings seated by team. So
they retired the plant a long long time ago, but
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it's just been sitting there empty and Excel wants to
build a substation there.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
But of course the neighbors around you, we're like.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
It's historical, we have to save it. So Xcel said
to Denver, you guys have the right of first refusal
if you want to buy it. It's like seven and
a half million dollars, even though it's been appraised at
one point five million dollars. But here's the kicker. Here's
the kicker. The kicker is that there has to be
a bunch of remediation done, meaning it is an environmental
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bomb that will no longer be acceptable. So whoever buys
it is going to have to do the remediation because
Xcel Energy has already.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Said, yeah, we're not doing it. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
The power plant is listed at seven point five million dollars,
but Xcel has said, we're.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Only going to list it for thirty days. Right now.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Average time on market is over forty days in the
Denver metro and that's not for really unique process or
projects that need excessive environmental mitigation before they can even
be made into something that people could use. So needless
to say, I do not expect anyone to buy this plant,
because even the City of Denver said, you know what,
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it's just going to be too much to mitigate it.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
It's going to be too much.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
So here's what I believe is going to be the
next step in the great Zooni steam Plant and debacle,
and that will be that in thirty days they'll pull
the listing and XL will put up a notice that
they are going to level the historic zoone steam plant
to make a substation, which is what they wanted to
do a few years ago, but they had to go
through all the motions first. And I have an article
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link today in the Denver Gazette. And don't get me wrong,
I love that there are people who are passionate about
maintaining historic character of a place, right, maintaining the history
of a place.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
But too often they.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Are standing on the sidelines trying to dictate to other
people what they can and can't do with their own
private property. And that's when they start to irritate me.
This thing has been sitting there I don't even know
how long, for how many and what decades now, so
there's been plenty of time. It stopped operating in twenty fifteen.
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There has been ten years, a decade for preservationists to
get together and start to put some money behind their mouths.
Speaker 4 (58:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
The problem is is that nobody wants to spend the money,
and nobody wants to go out and raise the money.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
And I get it. It sucks. I hate raising money.
I do it for things that I'm passionate about, but
I don't enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Nobody does. That's a lie if people say they enjoy it.
And this is going to go down and there's going
to be lawsuits filed from community members who don't want
a substation, and this is the beginning of what I
anticipate made to be a five year process to get
to the point where Excel will tear this thing down
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and build a substation, which is what they wanted to
do the whole time, as evidenced by the fact that
they put a building.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
That is appraised at one point five.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Million dollars or one point nine appraised value one point
nine million dollars, and yet it's on the market for
seven point five million dollars. When we first moved here,
when I got the job at K How the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
At k How.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
We had two months in temporary housing provided by Ihearts,
So in two months we had to buy a house.
And we on the first day that we were all
in town together, we looked at ten houses.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Ten ten. If you've ever shop for houses, you know
that's a ridiculous number of houses in one day.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
But we found a property that we both liked in
a neighborhood we both liked, and we made an offer
that my wheeltor said, this a fair offer, and the
sellers came back with a full asking price that was
their negotiation, and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
We were like, nope. My realtor said, what do you
want to do?
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I said, they don't want to sell their house to me,
because if they had wanted to sell their house to me,
they would have come back with a reasonable counter then
we could have worked from But they don't because they
came back with the full asking price, which is not reasonable.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
In my mind, you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Don't want to sell me your house. So we moved
on about a different house. This is exactly what's going
to happen here.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
You know, they don't.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Want to sell this thing for that price when all
this work has to be done to just make it
habitable again, millions and millions of dollars just to mitigate
the environmental stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I'm sure so yeah that the zoo and I I just.
Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Want to make sure that you guys give me credit
when this thing goes for X amount of years. I'm
guessing five, could be longer, could be shorter, who knows,
but we will end up with a substation unless some
miracle investor swoops in in the next twenty eight days
to buy this thing for a well over what it's worth.
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That's on the blog today a couple of announcements. We
have two Republicans who have announced for governor.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
One of them is our Senator Mark.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Baisley of Roxboro Park, very conservative dude. Second one is
Representative Scott Bottoms of Colorado Springs. He is way more conservative,
and I don't know if a super conservative Republican is
electable in a statewide election. I wish I had thought otherwise,
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but I just don't in Colorado, I really don't.
Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I'm aware of Mark Baisley because he is actually really
pushed some legislation that I really like. I like where
his heart is. He's, you know, trying to create this
in this uphill situation. He's still trying to get things done.
I'm not familiar with Representative Scott Bottoms, so I can't
really I don't have a strong opinion on.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Either of these dudes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
But the governor's race isn't until twenty twenty six, so
we have plenty of time to sort this stuff out.
I'm not going to be having candidates on for the
foreseeable future unless there is something newsworthy at that moment
in their campaigns.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Because I'm as sick of it as you are.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
You guys, we just got done like ten minutes ago
with the last election, and we're already talking about the
next election.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
And I'm frankly a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Salty about that, not super happy about that situation.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
But I figured i'd let you know.
Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Another Republican has jumped into the Colorado chairman's race, and
Lori Saine is a Weld County Republican. She is very,
very maga and very very conservative. I actually I have
no beef with Lori saying I have no beef with
any of these people. I just think that the Colorado
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Republican Party needs a pivot to go back to the
big tent, the welcome party because the worst things get
in Colorado. We need a party that can clearly articulate
policy positions and issues without accidentally, you know, making parts
of our party and independence feel unwelcome. And that's what
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we have now in leadership. And I just want a
leader who's not going to just wander aimlessly into a
self created crisis.
Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
That we didn't need to have.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
You can read about Lori Sayan and of course Darcy
Skodig and Britta Horn they're all running.
Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
It's going to be very interesting to see.
Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
This edition of Lori Sayin may create a problem for
Darcy because they are more similar than they are to Brita,
So maybe Brita will have an opening there.
Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Of course, we'll following all that stuff because it matters,
even if we don't want it to. So that stuff
is on the blog today. I'm scrolling through my oscar stuff.
When we get back, I want to talk about a
Facebook scam that really has me urging people to use
two factor ID on your social media accounts. I will
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explain after this, and boy, you want to hear this
and Thomas Fry's terrifying story about if Dam's collapsed. Good afternoon, Mandy,
Damn engineer, I mean Damn engineer here, he's spelled it
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the other way first, not saying Thomas is completely off base.
But Damn engineers do perform Damn breach analysis for dams.
This includes an assessment of the impacts on downstream dams.
This comes into play with freeboard volumes, auxiliary spillways, and
other safety features for Damn design and construction. In short,
a dam whose breach would compromise the next dam is
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a failed design and as long as the permitting agency
does their job, it would not be permitted.
Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Of course, there is.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
A chance of human error, but this as an inherent
part of Damn design. Is this a concern, Yes, but
hope this lets you sleep a little easier. Yes, And
thank you Damn engineer for sending that email.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Just to make me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I want to tell a story that just happened to
one of the finest people that I know in my life.
She was my sorority big sister in the hot minute
that I was in a sorority, and she is a
wonderful human being who sponsors, you know, youth Christian programs
in high schools all over the area where she lives.
(01:05:34):
She lives in a big city in the South. She
is constantly doing wonderful things for other people. And there
was a big listing on her Facebook page last week
and I looked at it. It said, Hey, my uncle
is going into assisted living, so I'm helping him liquidate
his assets.
Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
So we could, you know, get him into this assisted living.
Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
And there's so much stuff, and I'm going to be
out of town until the twenty but here's the list.
If you want something, you can just send me a
deposit and I'll hold it till I get back. So
I'm looking at this is this is something she would do.
By the way, it would be completely in her character
to assist her.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Uncle in, you know, helping him move into.
Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
An assistant That would be one hundred percent in her
character to do this. Then I start looking at the listings,
and when I got to a twenty twenty two Honda
Civic for eight thousand dollars, I was like, wait a minute.
Then I start looking at all the other prices, and
it's one of those situations where you know, when you
look at it, it's too good to be true, you know.
(01:06:40):
So I send her a message on Facebook hey, is
this really real? Is this really you know going on?
Or or you know what's happening, and to which I
completely got a quick response yes it is, and no
personal no like hey, you know how art nothing. She
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just oh, yeah, it is okay, share with your friends,
is what they said. Well, not to be deterred, I
then sent her a text message and said, hey, uh,
did you post this on your Facebook page? Because this
all looks too good to be true, and she said back, Nope,
my Facebook account was hacked. Someone changed the password. I
can't get back in. Facebook is not helping me at all.
(01:07:23):
Please report this as fraud. Okay, great, so I go back.
I go to the post.
Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I reported this.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Fraud to Facebook, and because they had turned off the
commenting on that post, you couldn't comment. That's a dead giveaway,
by the way. I then did another post where I
tagged her and I said her Facebook account has been stolen.
Any posts you'd see there are lies and scams, And
then they remove the tag. I did it over and
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
They'd remove it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I would take the post down, I would do a
new post. I wanted to be the most painful part
of their day. I wanted to come for me, and
it took about a week for her to get access
to her Facebook out again. By the way, Facebook not
only did not take the post down because it didn't
violate their community standards, there's no way to follow up
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with how it's a scam. There's no way to delineate
that this is not the owner of this Facebook page
and they're trying to get money from people.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
That is not right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
So a couple of days ago, I saw a normal
post on her Facebook page and I sent her another
text and I said, Ah, did you get your Facebook
page back? And she said yes. And I said did
anyone send the scammers money? And she said a friend
of a friend wired them thirty thousand dollars? And I
was like, uh, because I know this woman and I
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know that that is even though she had nothing to
do with it other than not having two step log
in authorization signed up for. That was the only thing
she could have done to stop this. And you guys,
I realized two step notifications sucks. And we have two
step notification on everything at iHeart. So if I walk
into the studio to log into my Facebook, you know,
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my iHeart email account, I better have my phone with me,
and when I left my phone in the airport when
we went overseas, I couldn't get into anything. It was terrible.
But I don't have to worry about this happening to
me or accidentally ripping people.
Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Off because they think that that's my post.
Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
And let me just say this, guys and gals, if
it looks too good to be true, it is too
good to be true.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Use your common sense. Go on the internet.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
This is what I did when I saw the twenty
twenty two Hona Civic for eight thousand dollars. I went
how much does the twenty twenty two Zivic cost?
Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
And guess what?
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Twenty two thousand dollars is a lot more than eight
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
But use the two step authorization. Do it.
Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
It could save you a world of pain and tru
But later. This is my PSA for you today hashtag
The more you know, we'll be right back. And when
we get back, I got to dip my toe back
into the Zelensky stuff because I have so much stuff
on it today.
Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
When we get back, I want to share.
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Jeffrey Sachs is a Columbia professor who has studied Eastern
Europe Ukraine Russia relations for decades. I want to share
his testimony at the European Union when we get back
(01:10:36):
to the third hour of the show. I almost got
taken out by a piece of broccoli. Someone someone went
crazy and on our diabetes sharing table, where only sweet
things are allowed, someone brought a veggie tray, which I'm
actually enjoying immensely. But then someone went back after they
put the vegie trade down and added five rice Krispy
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treats and a root mirror to balance out the diabetes
sharing table.
Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Anyway, uh, I.
Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Got a prize for you guys. Somebody who's gonna win this?
The twelfth Texter at five six sixth nine zero to
answer the following trivia question is going to win something
to celebrate three oh three day today?
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
See get it? It's March third.
Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Three oh three are area code three oh three.
Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
You see what's going on there?
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
And now the three oh three Sports Grill is having
a big day.
Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
They're offering drafts for.
Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Three oh three as well as three dollars and three
said burritos, pizza, and Cuban sandwiches to celebrate three oh
three day. And right now, the twelfth person answer this
trivia question is going to get a fifty dollars gift
card to the three oh three Sports Grill, a family oriented,
locally owned sports grill in Littleton and Loan three. Check
them out three oh three sportscrill dot com. If you
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know the answer to this question, text it at five, six, six, nine.
Oh what country is the largest by land mass in Europe?
What country is the largest by land mass in Europe?
And somebody number twelve is going to win that gift card.
Now let me get my audio, Zach, before you start
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dealing with that.
Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I want to play this.
Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
This is a Columbia professor and Eastern European studier and
a studier of this for a very long time. He
is giving testimony to the European Union. This was in
twenty twenty two after Russia rolled into Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
He is testifying at the EU to.
Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Give it in the European Parliament. What was Pruin's intention
in the war?
Speaker 13 (01:12:43):
Not the propaganda that's written about this, Oh that they
failed and he was going to take over Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
The idea was to keep NATO. And what is NATO.
Speaker 13 (01:12:54):
It's the United States off of Russia's border. No more
no less, when the Soviet Union ended in nineteen ninety
one and an agreement was made that NATO will not
move one inch eastward. Now, what happened after nineteen ninety one?
The United States decided there would be no end to
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eastward enlargement of NATO, and the decision was taken formally
in nineteen ninety four when President Clinton signed off on
NATO enlargement to the east, all the way to Ukraine
and into Georgia. So the NATO enlargement, as you know,
started in nineteen ninety nine with Hungary, Poland in the
Czech Republic, and Russia was extremely unhappy about it. But
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these were countries still far from the border. So the
next round of NATO enlargement came in two thousand and
four with the three Baltic States, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovenia and Slovakia.
At this point, Russia was pretty damn upset, so, as
everybody recalls, in two.
Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Thousand and seven, President Boone said stop enough, And of
course what that.
Speaker 13 (01:13:58):
Meant was in two thousand and eight, the United States
jammed down Europe's throat enlargement of NATO to Ukraine and
to Georgia.
Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
This is right up against Russia, and.
Speaker 13 (01:14:09):
Russia protested because if Russia decided to have a military
base on the Rio Grand or the Canadian border, not
only would the United States freak out, we'd have war
within about ten minutes, and a month later war broke out.
Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
That gets Georgia destroyed.
Speaker 13 (01:14:25):
And starting in twenty ten, the US put in AEGEUS
missile systems in Poland and then in Romania, and Russia
doesn't like that. In twenty ten, Victorianikovich was elected on
the platform of neutrality. Russia had no territorial interests or
designs in Ukraine at all. What Russia was negotiating was
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a twenty five year lease for Savastopol naval base. That's it,
not for Crimea, not for the Donbos.
Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Nothing.
Speaker 13 (01:14:56):
In twenty fourteen, the US Worked Act Lead to overthrow Yanikovic.
Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Everybody knows the phone call. If my Columbia.
Speaker 13 (01:15:05):
University colleague, Victoria Newland and the US Ambassador Peter Piap
listen to it, it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I can't let you listen to it because it's got
curse words in it, but it uh, it absolutely clarifies
what they're saying here, and you can listen to it
if you're here and yeah, hang on, oops, let me
fix this. I couldn't play that part. I forgot to
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beep it out.
Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
What is happening now? Did you turn it off? I
turned it off? Zack, there we go.
Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Wait a minute. Oh geez, there we go. Yeah, I
need it back up. You need a back up?
Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Sorry, I turned it down down here? Why is it
not playing?
Speaker 9 (01:15:49):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Do you have me up?
Speaker 9 (01:15:51):
You hang on?
Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Let me back it up just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I just can't play that phone call because it is
got a word in it between two diplomats.
Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
All right here he goes.
Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Mince and especially Mince too.
Speaker 13 (01:16:07):
It said there should be autonomy for the Russian speaking
regions in the east of Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
It was supported.
Speaker 13 (01:16:15):
Unanimously by the UN Security Council. The United States and
Ukraine decided it was.
Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Not to be enforced.
Speaker 13 (01:16:23):
There were many thousands of deaths in the shelling by
Ukraine in the donbas and one of the issues on
the table in December twenty twenty one January twenty twenty
two was does the United States claim the right to
put missile systems in Ukraine? And Blincoln told lavrev in
January twenty twenty two. The United States reserves the right
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to put missile systems wherever it wants, So the war started.
What was Putin's intention in the war, It was to
force Zelensky to negotiate neutrality, and that happened within seven
days of the start of the invasion. Ukraine walked away,
you and the latterly from a near agreement. Why because
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the United States told them to. The idea was that
there would be Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, and Georgia that
would deprive Russia of any international status by blocking the
Black Sea.
Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
And the American.
Speaker 13 (01:17:27):
Senators, who are as nasty and cynical and corrupt as imaginable, say,
this is wonderful expenditure of our money because no Americans
are dying.
Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
It's and that kind of wraps it up. But he
does the things in a different perspective, and I might disagree.
And I looked up a lot of Jeffrey Sachs today.
I looked up his writings, and some of it I
disagree with strongly about other issues. But he lays it
out pretty clearly the history of what's going on right now.
(01:18:00):
And I used the phrase proxy war earlier in the show,
and someone.
Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Hit the text line like proxy war. What are you
talking about? This now?
Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Is a proxy war? It didn't start that way because
Russia thought they would roll into Ukraine and it would
be like, you know, mission accomplish, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
So there's a lot of factors here.
Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
And by the way, I'm not sitting here saying, oh,
poor Putin. You know, poor Vladimir Putin. He was being
put upon, and you know he's the nice guy. I
think Putin is a horrible person. He's a dictator. He
murders journalists, he disappears people. To this day in Russia.
I think he's a horrible person. But to think that
this further endless funding of the Ukraine War is going
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to yield anything other than disaster, I think is just foolish.
And one must wonder what happened in that conversation between
Biden and Zelensky or whoever m Zolensky back when there's
seven days into the war at peace was being negotia.
Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
It's just a huge mess.
Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
If I thought Ukraine could actually win, then we'd be
having a different conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
I just don't think they can.
Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
This is another slog another war where people are entrenched
and the lines are barely moving.
Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
I'm just over it. I don't see the point.
Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Other than enriching defense companies and enriching people who figure
out a way to grift off of the endless dollars
that are pouring in from around the world. And I'm
just you know, it seems like we can do better
things with the money that we're spending on this stuff
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on the blog today, ongoing stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I find it interesting that when I.
Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Start talking about this, it's like, oh, Mandy, you're a
Russian plant. You can believe that Russia is bad, but
also recognize how we got here at the same time.
Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
And I think that it is.
Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Critically important that we dig a little deeper when we
think about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Did you just go.
Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Get one of those rice Krispy treats after I talked about.
Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Them being on the diabetes sharing table?
Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Ny sak Oh to be young and have that kind
of metabolism again. Anyway, So when I talk about this stuff,
it's not because I am pro plutin. This is one
of those situations where it's kind of like when two
football teams that you hate play each other and you're like,
(01:20:27):
can they both lose It's kind of how I feel.
Can they both lose? Well, they're both losing right now.
They're just getting an entire generation of young.
Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
People slaughtered with no real hope in sight.
Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Mandy says this text or the Ukraine Russian war is
a testing ground for weapons. The European governments have a
test ground for their weapons, which they turn around and
sell to other countries like the Middle East and Asia.
Their industry make money and they don't lose any soldiers.
Russia has been using it testing their weapons too.
Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
The Russian military tactics haven't changed since World War Two
when they fought the Germans. The US arms industry also
had made a fortune on selling weapons to Ukraine, but
also other countries who see how our weapons work. I
just that's such a.
Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Horrible cynical thing.
Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
That could very well be true, But it means that
defense industry is willing to just let people go into
a meat writer in order so they can test their products.
And you know, I want to believe that the people
in the defense industry are doing it because they want
the United States to be able to have a lethal
fighting force, but they don't necessarily wish for collateral damage
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of this level, though, now I'm a fool.
Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
I'm a fool for asking questions.
Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
I've never felt foolish when I asked a question that
got an answer to that got me closer to understanding
something at a deeper level.
Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Never, not once now I.
Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Have asked them questions, or after I asked the.
Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Question, I felt foolish.
Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
You know, I think.
Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Everybody's asked a dumb question before in their lives. But
try to learn about something, being curious about something, you
probably text her need to be a little less tribal,
because we need to get to some kind.
Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Of resolution here. We need to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
There's not going to be any kind of massive change
in what's going on unless we go to full scale
war with Russia. And I think that anytime you talk
about adding military power in terms of air power and
things of that nature, anytime you.
Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Talk about putting boots on the ground.
Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
You know, the UK's talking about sending troops to Ukraine.
Do you want to send our men and women to
Ukraine to fight?
Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
I don't want to send them there as peacekeepers. I
don't want to send them there at all, because at
what point do we just say okay, you know what, enough,
enough is enough. We've had enough, and.
Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
That's kind of where I am.
Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
I learned that I feel this way about Iraq in Afghanistan.
I wish I had asked more questions. I wish more
discussions had been had, because I am lucky enough to
be aware of all of these veterans organizations that are
out here helping veterans who have seen combat, who now
struggle so much with PTSD, with physical injuries, with TBIs
(01:23:23):
that are gonna affect them the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
I'm married to a veteran who has.
Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Broken into little pieces by combat and frankly put back
together really badly. So this isn't an abstract conversation. Do
you want to commit more young men and more young
women to go and have those experiences on behalf of
Ukraine in a direct war with Russia?
Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Is that what you want?
Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Because I do not, and I'm gonna keep asking questions
so I have a better understanding. So if at any
point there is a reason good enough to make that
happen to commit our young men and women to a
fight halfway around the world, I'll be the first to
tell you about it. Because right now, uh uh, no, no,
And quite frankly, do I want to put my grandkids
(01:24:08):
on the hook for this decision financially to limit their
future economically in this country because our debt will far
outstrip any other spending and they will just be paying
the credit card debt that we racked up on their behalf.
Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
No, I'm not willing to do that, are you?
Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
What is it worth to you to continue to fight
in Ukraine when we get back, And I'd love to
know the answer to that. By the way, I'm not
just asking it to be snarky. You can email me
Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com because I've got a
guest coming up in the next segment to talk about
board of County commissioners run wild. And I'll preface that
with the same offer that I made earlier in the show,
(01:24:46):
which is, if your Board of County commissions, or your
town council or your city council is running amok, let's
shine some light on them all. And by the way,
I don't care if they're Republicans or Democrats. I am
so sick of the people of Colorado being ignored, not
paid attention to, and charged exorbitant rates to get information
that should be publicly available.
Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
We will do this next.
Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Oh, but I think I'm going to make some kind
of formal snitch line.
Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
What am I asking you to snitch on.
Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
I'm asking you to snitch when your town council, your
city council, your county commission is doing shady stuff and
you want someone to let everybody know, because I am
sick of it.
Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
I live in Douglas County.
Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
We have three Republican members of the Board of County Commission,
and two of them I do not trust as far
as I can throw them for a variety of reasons.
One I just personally find distasteful. One has been on
this show before and lied to my face, or if
he wasn't lying, then he provided no documentation to back
up what he was saying. So if you want me
(01:25:56):
to amplify any kind of story like this it's driving
you crazy about where you live, you email me Mandy
Connell at iHeartMedia dot com and then put snitch line
in the subject line stage line. Because I'm tired of
of people just being stopped by their elected representatives. And
right now joining me from the Rocky Mountain Voice, Jen
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Shuman has been writing about a bit of nonsense happening
in Douglas County about camping in an open space.
Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
I mean, that's the sort of big macro.
Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Description of what we're talking about that it goes way
deeper than that.
Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Jen. First of all, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
And second of all, how did you get attached to
this story?
Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
How did this all come to your attention?
Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
Well, Hi, Mandy, thanks so much for having me on
your show today. It's a great pleasure to be here.
And I think I'll be emailing you about my own
city council with that snitch line because I live in
Grand Junction. But the reason I've been writing about this
is basically because residents reached out. They are frustrated, and
they want to get the word out so that hopefully
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public pressure we'll do something to move these commissioners, because
so far nothing has.
Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
And I did a core request.
Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
And it's regarding the Sandstone Primitive Camping Pilot project in
Douglas County. And there are over five hundred submissions to
the Douglas County website. I haven't read every single one,
but I have maybe only seen one.
Speaker 8 (01:27:24):
That asked a question.
Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
All the rest of the submissions were a plea to
the commissioners to rethink this, to not go.
Speaker 8 (01:27:33):
Forward with this pilot project.
Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
And we'll have two different local governments who have pass
resolutions rejecting this primitive camping project and Sandstone Ranch, and
they're just overwhelming. For people who know about what's going
on and what these commissioners are considering, there's an overwhelming
opposition to it.
Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Well, what we're talking about is a proposal in a
Sandstone Ranch part of Douglas County, which in a valley.
Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
It's beautiful, there's a lot of low brush.
Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
It's one of those places that is almost always slightly
windy and often very windy.
Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
So this combination of things, and now the.
Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Board of County Commissioners has come forward and said we're
going to allow some primitive camping to go on there. Now,
the people who live in that area, their big concern
is fire, because if someone doesn't take care of a campfire,
if someone doesn't properly start a campfire, or someone starts
a campfire and a burn band, you could very quickly
burn down an entire neighborhood or two or three really fast.
(01:28:35):
Because of the nature of the topography in this area.
Have you found out Jen and you're reporting why this
was even being considered in the first place.
Speaker 6 (01:28:46):
Now, And that's been a really big question by so
many people because it's only something like around five sites
that they're proposing.
Speaker 8 (01:28:55):
There's only there's several residents.
Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
Is nearby that a joint that area, there's a school,
there is an elementary less than two miles away, and
there's really That's what I've asked, why would they propose
to do this because there is like you said, there's
great wind, there is, there wouldn't be there would be
no services.
Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
And this is basically what I've been told.
Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
A one road in, one ride out area where there's
maybe a back gate that would have to be opened.
Fire chief I spoke to from the Larkspur of fire
Chief Tim McCauley.
Speaker 8 (01:29:31):
He said that he's really concerned because he wouldn't know
where people are.
Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
Maybe they're right camping, and the amount of time it
would take to find whoever is out there. With the
potential of a wildfire to spread quickly, there could be
a catastrophic loss of life, catastrophic loss of property that
would be long time in the making. The Perry Park
Metro District Board President Derren Hill he's not even just
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just I mean, this is a great catastrophic about loss
of life, potentially of people getting out, maybe they won't
see where they're going because they's smoke. But also he
said that the property damage it would be so catastrophic
that maybe there's some areas that would never even be
able to rebuild because they'd lose that essential infrastructure of water,
(01:30:19):
sewer and everything else.
Speaker 8 (01:30:21):
I haven't seen.
Speaker 6 (01:30:22):
I've asked so many residents is what is the motive
behind us?
Speaker 8 (01:30:26):
And everybody's scratching their heads.
Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Well, And one of the most interesting comments I saw
on a Facebook page that I'm in was someone said, well,
anybody could accidentally start a fire in your yard, and
that is true, but when you are in your yard,
you tend to be more cautious, you tend to take
greater care, You tend to make sure that you are
not doing things they can negatively impact yourself and your neighbors.
(01:30:48):
It's a much different proposition when you have campers. And
I know, you know the Coloradins know how to camp,
but we've had such an influx of people from other
states that frankly don't know how to camp. They don't
know how to put out a fire properly. They're the
first to start a fire during a fireman. And that
is what these This is not a nimby situation here.
(01:31:09):
This is a we are worried someone is going to
burn our house down the situation.
Speaker 8 (01:31:15):
And not only that.
Speaker 6 (01:31:16):
One of the commissioners, Abe Layden, he said in a
recent commission meeting that and this was something that residents
brought to my attention. I had to go and find it.
In one of the meeting videos. He said that, well,
anybody has the potential to start a fire. The homeowners
could start a fire. And what the resident said was
(01:31:37):
they can't even go and get a They can't start
a fire and a fire pit in their own residence
unless they get a permit.
Speaker 8 (01:31:47):
But to get the permit, they have to have.
Speaker 6 (01:31:49):
The firepit expected first. And then also they, like you said,
they're very vigilant. They even said that residents will, well
they will if they see smoke or.
Speaker 8 (01:32:01):
Something in the nearby neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (01:32:03):
A few houses away and they don't know what it is,
out of concern for the neighborhood and their own property,
they will call and Kim Greer, she spoke up at
one of the Commission meetings in opposition to this, she's
a resident. She's also a former volunteer firefighter in the area.
Speaker 8 (01:32:19):
She said, the visibility of.
Speaker 6 (01:32:21):
Being able to see these people that come in for
who knows where and they have no investment, they don't
know the neighbors, they don't care about their community, they
didn't invest how much money in their home. The visibility
of being able to see something that may be a
camper from who knows where starts. It wouldn't be the
same thing as in your neighborhood.
Speaker 8 (01:32:40):
And laden he kind of.
Speaker 6 (01:32:42):
Likened it to somebody could start a fire with a
hair dryer in their home.
Speaker 8 (01:32:46):
And the residents brought this to my attention. They felt insulted.
Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
It is I would do.
Speaker 8 (01:32:53):
I have family in Douglas County, and I.
Speaker 6 (01:32:56):
Know how much my family members who live in Douglas
County invest in taking care of their property. Right spend
hours shoveling out snow. They spend so much time and
money making their homes safe and beautiful and well taken
care of well.
Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Jen Schuman is my guest from the Rocky Mountain Voice.
We're talking about the league. Here's the last question I
have for you. Jen as a simple one. You know,
Abe Laden is the one that brought this up initially.
It is my understanding he has never demonstrated any constituents
who have come forward to say, yes, I'm the one
that got this ball rolling. When asked who's supporting this,
(01:33:34):
he gives the vague everyone or whatever it is. It
is another example of just steamrolling over what the residents
want for some nebulous outside group that we don't even
get to say, why do you want to do this?
Why do you want to make this a thing? And
that's what's frustrating. So have you seen any support at
all at all for this? And who is that who
(01:33:57):
is supporting this?
Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
The only support I've heard in a commission meeting from
listening to the videos came from a commissioner, George Till.
He brought up at boy Scouts brought up their interest
in being able to camp in the area. And I
think he has a boy Scout background and so he
you know, had had some you know, uh respect for
that interest being brought forth. But what I thought was
(01:34:22):
also interesting was that he said and others, well, if
her are other why can't they be named exactly exactly?
Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
This is what they do, Jen Human, great reporting at
Rocky Mountain Voice. Thank you so much for continuing to
do this, and I hope that others will will start
to hit my political snitch line and email me your
stories of Malfeasans. And again, I don't care if you're
a Republican or a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Both George Steele and Abe.
Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Ladener are Republicans and I don't trust the way they run.
Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
The county now, so I'm gonna keep talking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
Jen.
Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
I so appreciate your time today and all.
Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
You do.
Speaker 8 (01:34:57):
My pleasure. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
All right, thanks Jen, that's you and human with the
Rocky Mountain Voice. If you're not reading the Rocky Mountain
Voice every day, you really are missing out. They're doing
great original reporting and it is just uh you should
go check it out.
Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Let's see what I did not hit on the blog today.
Are you playing of the day to Damia?
Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Okay, sit down, because I just got a really funny
text that is about you and I want to no, no,
not not about you. But wait a minute, lease let
me see if I can find it.
Speaker 14 (01:35:25):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Okay, here we go, here's the question for Nia bender.
Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Our crack Newswomannia Mandy, what would it take for us
to get Nia to change her name to Anna?
Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Just asking Anna? On a bender on a bender?
Speaker 14 (01:35:39):
Let's see here, I've been fender bender on a bender
bender over. Oh nice, we were going to go there,
but that's that's how we're having come up with on
a bender.
Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Yeah, sadly, I think I've heard all of this.
Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Well, I bet well, my well, I can't say that
without outing myself as my my husband's last name is
kind of funny, and when put with my real first name,
it's very funny.
Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
But I'm not gonna say it on the air because
I will out myself. Did you watch the Oscars last idea?
Speaker 14 (01:36:09):
I don't watch the Oscars because of the political thing.
Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
But it was a really good I gotta tell you,
it was really really good. But I wonder people know.
Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
If you want snarky commentary about gowns, you can find
it on Today's blog, where I gave you. I didn't
go through all of them because that would have been
really tedious.
Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
I just did the ones I really wanted to make.
Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Fun of, Like Arianna grind Rande looked like a lamp
at my nana's house.
Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Okay, she did look like a lamp.
Speaker 14 (01:36:35):
And if you're gonna spend money like that on a
dress and you want something big and poofy, go get
one of the dresses the girls that do their king
snatas wear, oh because you imagine, Yeah, but their spectacle
dresses are.
Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
And then Crinthy Orriva looked like a punctuation mark of
some sort. You're right about that, like some kind of
Japanese tattoo.
Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 13 (01:36:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
And then Timothy shallomey, Oh, I love you Timothy, but
he looked like he got dressed by him up at last,
like the muppets were like dress Timothy. And then Whoopi
Goldberg was dressed by Hefty. It just looked like landscaping fabric. Yes,
they were made into a dress.
Speaker 14 (01:37:08):
She was actually in a dress. She looked actually for
Whoopy very pretty. I know I was gonna bring that up.
Did look pretty for Whoopye Yeah, I'm used to seeing
her in any kind of dress.
Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
And then poor Emma Stone she fired her stylist today.
Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Who found a dress It was.
Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Both the exact same shade as her skin and completely
shapeless at the same time.
Speaker 14 (01:37:29):
Okay, but you have to realize that they don't need
to fire anybody, because what are we doing, right, I
know we're firing Their stylists were talking, but we're talking
about this. So I worked and then Selena Gomez was
a goddess last night. Yes, it was all old Hollywood glamour,
absolutely stunning, the best yep, absolutely stunning. So this text message, uh,
(01:37:51):
this sounds like rich people don't want people camping near them.
Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Not so much about fires. You have to understand the
topography of this particular place because they're in a it
is always windy, always not super windy.
Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
But all we looked at a house there.
Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
I mean, this is I'm very familiar with this area
and it's always windy, and if something catches fire, there
is no there's nothing to stop it from just racing.
It's yeah, so there are legit reasons to not want
to do this. So hang on, let me see if
I can find this one part of Kieren.
Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Culkin's speech last night. Can I have my audio here?
We go, Let me see, let me just get to it.
Speaker 9 (01:38:30):
Way.
Speaker 11 (01:38:30):
You look fine right now.
Speaker 15 (01:38:32):
I should always should think my mom and Steve for
trying to right here.
Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
I want to really I love you, Jazz.
Speaker 15 (01:38:36):
This is a jazz u forever everything forgiving my favorite
people in the world. This is please don't play the
music because I want to tell a really.
Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Quick story about jazz.
Speaker 15 (01:38:44):
About a year ago, is on the stage like this,
and I very stupidly publicly said that I want a
third kid from her because she said if.
Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
I won the award, I would she would give me
the kid.
Speaker 14 (01:38:53):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (01:38:53):
It turns out she said that because she didn't think
I was gonna win. Oh, And people came up to
her were like, you know, uh, really annoying her.
Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
I think I think it got to her.
Speaker 15 (01:39:03):
But anyway, after the show, we're walking through a parking lot,
she's holding the Emmy.
Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
We're trying to find her car.
Speaker 15 (01:39:08):
Emily, you were there, so your witness, and she goes, oh, god,
I did say that.
Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
I guess I owe you a third kid.
Speaker 15 (01:39:13):
And I turned to her and I said, really, I'm
want four, and she turned me. I swear to God,
this habitage just over a year ago. She said, I
will give you four when you win an Oscar.
Speaker 8 (01:39:24):
Oh, I'm standing there.
Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
He shook it and I have now brought it up once.
Speaker 15 (01:39:30):
And can tell just now you run it that, honey,
you do and I just have this to say to you, Jazz,
love of my life.
Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
You have little faith, no pressure. I love you. I'm
really sorry I did this again. And let's get cracking
on those kids.
Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
What are you saying?
Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
I need love?
Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
It was that there was Kiaren Culkan accepting his word
for Best Supporting Actor last night.
Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Sweetest acceptance speech. Funny, absolutely, non political, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Well, the only person who with political is Daryl Hannah,
who doesn't have a whole lot of a career right now.
I guess she hears she'd take her shot, you know,
like this is my Oh, well, de Niro, that's expected.
Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
That's like, did de Niro breathe? Yes? Did he make
fun of Trump?
Speaker 9 (01:40:15):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 14 (01:40:16):
But it was and from what I've read and what
I've seen, it was far better than years past.
Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
All right, it was actually delightful.
Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
So I didn't watch the whole thing, but what I
did watch, it was just refreshing to not be inundated
with a bunch of garbage. Although one of my friends
is so mad that Demi Moore didn't win, so mad.
She's like she was the best. But I haven't seen
an Ore yet, so we'll have to say, and now
it's time.
Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Now, wait a minute, stop that. You know what you
have to yell right in the world. You have to
yell in the world when I pointed you, okay, you
got it. You got your marching ards.
Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
And now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of it's kind in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Very good Nia of the day. You got the assignment?
Speaker 14 (01:41:03):
Yeah good, ye have little faiths exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Last, she's gonna be pragnant with twins. Love the fact
that he's just like I just want more babies. I
think that's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
Anyway, what is our dad joke of the day please?
Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
The bad joke of the day to day? What's more
amazing than a talking dog?
Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
It is a talking dog? What a spelling beat?
Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
All right, moving on. What's her word of the day please?
Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
Word of the day?
Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Draconian.
Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Oh, Jaconian means excessively harsh or really bad, mean punishment
type thing.
Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
It's kind of brutal than Trodian describes something that is
very severe or cry. Yep, there we go, all right.
Today's trivia question.
Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
What country's national parliament is called the althing A L
T h I N G althing I want to say.
Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Denmark or something. I don't I don't know. I was
gonna say Nederland. I'm so close, I'm in.
Speaker 5 (01:42:07):
The right part of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Sowere'd you say?
Speaker 14 (01:42:10):
What Island Netherlands or Nederland Netherlands.
Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
She's also close Sweden, Finland? Oh, you're so so close?
And the right word Iceland.
Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Iceland founded in nine to thirty CE.
Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
The outing is.
Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
One of the oldest national parliaments in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Huh. It seems like I would have heard in that
country where they have like thirty people. All right, you know, okay?
What is our jeopardy category? This is how it works Nia.
Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
You have to shout out your name to be able
to answer the question in the form of a question.
You don't have to wait until the end of the question.
If you know it, if you get it right, we'll
get one point. If you get it wrong yet minus one. Okay,
here we go. What is our category? Beach stuff?
Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
It's all it's all beach theme for sorry, it's on
the beach.
Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
It's all beach themed.
Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
Got it? This became an Olympic event. Mandy, what is volleyball?
Beach volleyball? That is forrect number two.
Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
Here.
Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Gold Beach was at the center of the five designated
landing areas during this nineteen forty four military operation.
Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Oh no, Manny, what is Normandy? The Stormy of Normandy? Yes, okay, Norman.
Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Wow, there's a Barbie doll based on this nineteen nineties
TV what's her name about? Beautiful and fit lifeguards on
La County beaches.
Speaker 5 (01:43:33):
They're looking for the name of the show.
Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Oh, Mandy, what is Maywatch? That is correct? You're killing me?
Have Yeah, I'm good at this game. I play it
every day.
Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
She owed me my person Oh good, easier once you
play more often, try Yeah, santabel Island on this US
state's Ranny.
Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
What's Florida? It's yeah, I knew that one there, fair, Yeah,
I knew you were going to get that one.
Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Making up the sand on most beaches is this compound
chemical formula SiO two in the form of tiny crystals
of this of the mineral courts, the.
Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Salt nous, Andy would a silica?
Speaker 5 (01:44:15):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
All right, there we go. Okay, Nia, that was your
first time, very first time on this side of the shelf.
Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
You I'd like to have you again because you did
such a good job in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Oh okay, I.
Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Think you wouldn't believe how many people can't even pull
that off. Okay, so you're already like light years ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Anybody can have a really big mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Wait, no, no, you do you ever wonder if people
are the same on the radios they are off the air.
Trust me, there's no guy on a Nia bender. This
is the same on and off the air, exactly the same. Okay, Tomorrow,
we've got a short show one hour before baseball, but
it's going to be a hum dinger.
Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
I'm working on something right now.
Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
Hopefully i'll have it for you tomorrow, and that's all
I'm gonna say, because if I don't, then you'll be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
But just trust me, show up tomorrow at noon see
what's gonna happen. But in the me time, keep it
right here on KOA