04-11-25 FULL SHOW - Home Rule, Right to Work, and AI Replacing Humans

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that my cursing diatribes that happen on the breaks sometimes
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Guys, we have a new system.

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Well wait, I'm interested to see if it works for you,
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And so maybe it was you know, it was user error.

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Maybe we all know I'm not exactly blazing a trail,
you know, you know, for what's going on here when
it comes to technology. But I just have started just
giving up, just plat out giving up. I had a
question about social media, and I didn't even understand the
words to fill out the form to ask the question.

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I mean, I I guess I'm at the point now,
a Rod, it's finally happened. Bring me a Tappyoka cup.
I need you to just you know, roll up and retire,
put my mumu on. Call it a day, because I
am completely baffled by technology at this point. Anyway, That's
not what I meant to talk about, because we have
so much other stuff to talk about. So let's jump in.

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Shall we go to the blog? I go through this
one more time to find the blog. Oh, here we go,
go to I've started sending eight Rod the emails that
I get you guys, just so he understand, I just
I know. Go to mandy'sblog dot com. And then when
you get there, they're gonna find the Mandy connle k
Way page. And then you look for the latest post

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section and there's like a little scroller. Sometimes you gotta
scroll over to the right, but today it's right there.
First thing you're gonna see it just says the headline
for eleven twenty five blog, Home Rule, right to work
and AI replacing humans? You click on that, Yeah, it's
going to take you right there.

Speaker 8 (04:01):
Oh hey, look it's Joe trying to figure out the blog.
Je just click on that, Joe.

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Just click on the South American All the ships and
clipments flat.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Today. I'm the blog. Want to know more about home
rule in Douglas County? What happens when AI replaces humans?
A national right to work bill has been filed. Jeffco's
schools is on the hot seat. Representative Lauren Bobert calls
for BONDI to look into Colorado's new gun law. Scrolling
scrolling downtown Denver has a serious image problem. Michael Bennett

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is running for governor. We'll polus veto the latest sanctuary
state bill, the democrats stupid attack on Tabor and why
it will fail. Theirs are waking up, So lock your car.
Why was this guy out on the streets? What's in
our bloated state budget? Six stolen bases without a hit?
Ilitch is open April nineteenth, tgif everybody he understood the assignment?

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The Babylon b oats the tariff for Kanye Wells trying
to claw back relevancy. Lebron James is a Kendall now,
Kevin O'Leary is all in on Chinese tariffs. Justin Bieber
doesn't love the paps. Is Elon really wrong? Those are
the questions or those are the headlines rather on the
blog at mandy'sblog dot com, no apostrophe. Thank you Nancy.

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It is a winner today. Thank you so much, Nancy.
I appreciate you. We've got a lot of good stuff
on the blog today. I got three guests coming out.
My friend Deb Flora, she is coming on because if
you've live in Douglas County, we're going to talk about
an event coming up to let people learn more about
the home rule proposition. And when I learn more about it,

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I'm going to come back and tell you guys about it.
Not because I think that you're all going to move
to Douglas County, but because I think this is a
very interesting theory about what this will allow Douglas County
to do in terms of getting out from under some
of the state edicts that are the most onerous. So
there's an event coming up. We're going to talk to
Deb Flora about that. It's part of her Douglas County

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Citizenry group that I am also a part of. That
is very cool and very interesting. All we do is
sit around and listen to people talk about things and learn.
It's fascinating. It's really actually very cool and there's like
nice people there and stuff. It's very nice. She'll be
coming up at one o'clock to talk about that. I'm

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really looking forward to. My second guest. His name is
Faisal Hoak. He is an AI innovator. He's also written
a book called Transcend Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI.
But he is also sounding the alarm about replacing human
jobs with artificial intelligence because of what it will do

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to the human race and man. He is spot on
on this. This is something I worry about all the time.
And you haven't been paying attention to how people react

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when they are put out of work. It's incredibly important
to pay attention to that because people left to their
own devices more often than not, do not excel, They
do not know do their best. They tend to fall
into bad habits. If you look at and I don't
know what the situation is now, so to be fair,

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maybe it's gotten better. In the Commonwealth of Kentucky, perhaps
it has. I'm not sure it has at all. But
when they put coal miners out of work, that's when
the opioid epidemic really took off. Because the old saying
idle hands or the devil's workshop is so true, but
it goes it's more about not having anything to do.
It's about not having purpose. And this is one of

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the things that I think we have to talk about
about AI. And I'm sure that you know there were
conversations sort of along this line, probably much different, but
along this line during the Industrial Revolution when people are like,
wait a minute, if this is replacing one hundred men
doing this job this machine, what are what's going to
happen to the other ninety nine men. So we have

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to start having these conversations, and having them now, because
AI is going to disrupt I think, just me speculating,
the two sectors that this is going to disrupt the
most are going to be those sort of entry level
menial work jobs that are often the first time jobs
for teenagers working in fast food, working in those kind

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of quick casual restaurants. But I also think AI is
poised to put a lot of people who work in
computer science out of work. Because when they harness artificial
intelligence and they put it in the hands of a
few people, that artificial intelligence is going to be doing
the jobs of hundreds, if not thousands, of coders. So

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it's going to be really fascinating to see how all
this work out. I mean, I'm praying that I am
spontaneous and unpredictable enough that they can't just replace me
with AI. Mandy. But if you if you tune in
one day and I'm like, hello, my name is Mandy Connell,
and today we're going to talk about blah blah, you'll
know it's not me. I don't think they could make

(09:18):
AI hyper enough to actually replace the energy that I've
been accused of having on this show.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
Eh, Terminator Mandy could do an right stop.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
It, Terminator Mandy could not. In any case, We're going
to talk to Faislhoak about that at two o'clock, and
then at two thirty we've got Mark mix He is
the National Right to Work Committee President, and good news,
the right to Work bill has been filed in the House.
We'll find out what the chances of it are passing.

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But this would in my opinion, I'm not positive, but
I'm gonna ask Mark Mix. If the governor decides to
sign the horrible labor bill that is upending eighty years
of labor in Colorado, this right to work bill would
supersede it, so it would solve that problem for us.
But I don't count on anything being done anything significant anyway.
So we're going to talk to Mark Mix about that,

(10:10):
and boy, how do you do? We have a lot
of stuff on the blog today, and I want to
start not at the top. I want to start with
the fact that yesterday the governor behind closed doors signed
with a group of gun grabbers around him SB twenty
five three, which is the most onerous, most invasive, most
taxing attack on the Second Amendment that Colorado has put

(10:32):
forth so far. And it is laughable, absolutely laughable to
think that this is going to do anything to stop
violent crime. Now, I've been thinking about this, and I
think that the only way that people who believe in
the Second Amendment have any chance of fighting back is
to run some sort of ballot initiative that requires the

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State of Colorado to require from all law enforcement agents
ease to report how a criminal became in possession of
a firearm legally or illegally. When a crime is committed
because right now, I don't you think they tracked that
data at all. So, yeah, you've got all these idiots
standing around the governor saying, you know what, a training

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course is going to stop the next mass shooter. A
training course before they can buy weapons. That's going to
be the thing that stops them. It's just idiotic. And
yet this Colorado Legislature has shown time and time and
time again that when somebody tries to bring a bill

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that would actually make committing a crime with a gun
a harsher penalty, that they could actually do this crazy
thing called putting criminals in jail, they rejected, They killed
it in committee. It never stands a chance. So Representative
Lauren Bobert back to s B twenty five, Dash three.

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Lauren Bobert posted this on her X feed, and I
am hoping that her office also set an official letter
from her office to the Attorney General's office and it says, hello,
AG Pambondi, the DOJ's Second Amendment Task Force should begin
their first wave of litigation against Governor Polis and the
State of Colorado for signing into law the unconstitutional SB

(12:25):
twenty five Dash three. The second Amendment is clear shall
not be infringed. SB twenty five to three converts our
constitutional rights into a privilege, one that becomes only accessible
to those who can afford it. For many Colorado's, especially
low income citizens who have been terrorized by trendy Aragua,

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SB twenty five to three creates a barrier that puts
firearm ownership out of reach and renders them defenseless. I'm
urging the Department of Justice to immediately consider targeting SB
twenty five dash three. What is she talking about this
new committee? Well, thanks for asking. A couple of days ago,
a memorandum went out from the Attorney General to all

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department employees of the Department of Justice, and it simply says,
for too long the Second Amendment, which establishes the fundamental
individual right of Americans to keep and bear arms, has
been treated as a second class right no more. It
is the policy of the Department of Justice to use
its full might to protect the Second Amendment rights of

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law abiding citizens. President Trump is made protecting the Second
Amendment rights a priority for this administration. As he explained,
the Second Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and
liberty because it is foundational to maintaining all of the
rights held by Americans. They have now created the Second
Amendment Enforcement Task Force. This task force will continue the

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Department's ongoing work to implement Executive Order fourteen two six
and protect the fundamental rights secured by the Second Amendment.
And then it goes on from there. So this is
what Lauren Bober is asking Attorney General Pambondi to look into. Now,
what I find fascinating about Donald Trump's full throated support
of the Second Amendment is this for everyone on the

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left who says he's a dictator, he's an authoritarian, He's
trying to lock up control. He wants to be king.
In those cases, those people, the first thing they do
is disarm the population. Because a population that doesn't have
weapons to fight back is an easily controlled population. Just
ask the Palestinians and the Gaza strip who are controlled

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by Hamas because Hamas has disarmed them in the name
of safety. Just ask the Venezuelans, eight million of which
have been forced to leave their country of origin because
Hugo chab As, in the name of safety, disarmed the population.
Ask the Cuban people, who can't rise up against their
authoritarian leadership, because the first thing Fidel Castro did was

(14:58):
disarm them in the name of safety. And now you
have President Trump, who those on the left you want
to believe that is going to be a dictator and authoritarian,
and he's actually saying, we are going to make sure
that you're right to be armed to fight against a
tyrannical government, will be protected. I'm telling you, this dude
is the worst dictator in the history of dictators. He

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is not paying attention. You think they have firearms in China.
You think they have firearms in Russia. I mean, maybe
they do in Russia. Everybody's a little crazy over there
in Russia, of course. Not Now about this law SB three,
it is truly horrible. It's truly horrible because of the
burden that it puts on people time wise, money wise.

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We still don't know what it's going to cost to
take one of these new we don't even have them yet.
Classes for Colorado Parks and Wildlife. And let me tell you, guys,
I had the chance a couple of last winter to
go with a group of Colorado Parks and Wildlife folks
to go and take these little baby bears and put
them into an artificial den and it was like the
coolest thing ever. Even though I frozen. I took us

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off because I didn't dress properly, my fault. It was
like the coolest thing. But I got to talk to
some of these guys and a young lady who were
Colorado Parks and Wildlife officers. That's what they want to
be doing. They don't want to have to create a
new bureaucracy to do these dumb classes. And I'm all
for training you guys. I am one hundred percent. I

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believe if you own a firearm, you owe it to yourself,
your family, and your own security to train properly with
that firearm and then practice on a regular basis. You know,
I'm a huge fan. But this has set up a
bureaucracy that is going to prevent poor people who don't
have the time or the money to jump through these hoops,

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and that is wrong. Poor people should be able to
protect themselves and not be forced into buying something illegally
because they can't afford to do it legally. I mean,
it's it's absurd. This is such a luxury belief by
the Democrats who stood behind Jared Bollis while he signed
this bill. It's a luxury belief to think that this
is going to do anything to stem violence in our

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community because in their community, they don't have to worry
about it. That's the reality. They're disarming the people that
they say they're here to protect, and they just don't care.
It's really stunning. So we'll see what happens. I don't
know what sort of authority the Department of Justice would

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have unless they want to argue on behalf of Colorado.
Because when this is, you know, challenged in court, do
you trust the current makeup of the Attorney General's office
to argue vociferously against this bill? I sure don't, not
at all. So we'll see. I mean, we'll see what happens.

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But man, what a dumpster fire of a legislative session.
This has been for freedom, for the people of Colorado,
for parents that this what's happening right now on the
Colorado legislature is almost comical.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
It's so bad.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
But here we are, and it's not comical because it's
real and it's going to be negatively affecting people in
the state for you know, foreseeable future. We're gonna take
a quick time out when we do. I've got so
much other stuff on the blog tomorrow, and when we
get back, I want to talk about let's see here
a couple of things. We're gonna start with a survey

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about downtown Denver that is going to surprise none of you.
Coming up next, Michael Bennett announced today that he is
running for governor, and I'm just mark my words, you guys.
He is going to be incredibly hard to beat. He's
going to be incredibly hard for another Democrat to come
out of the primary. He's going to be incredibly hard

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for another Republican to beat. It is going to like
I'm just gonna say it, I think Governor Michael Bennett
is highly likely at this moment in time, and hopefully
we can get him on the show soon to talk
about it. I gotta tell you, I was pleasantly surprised
with the conversation we had with him at the DNC,

(19:16):
mostly because I think he really wanted to be there,
you know, unlike some other interviews we did where people
were there but they didn't want to they didn't look
like they wanted to be there. So I've really been
thinking about this, and out of all of the Democrats,
I can think of. I don't know if there is
a least or a or a less objectionable Democrat. Now

(19:41):
that doesn't mean I'm going to run around and get
my you know, Bennett for Colorado sticker on my car. Well,
we got to be real, and the reality is is
that I don't know if there is a Republican with
a name ID that has the fundraising ability because I'm
sure he's already sitting on a pile of money. As
a matter of fact, only see here, Michael Bennett. I

(20:04):
should have done this before the show campaign coffers. Let's
see what comes up here. He could very well be
sitting on a large chunk of money that he can
transfer to well maybe not, maybe not. I don't know. Hm,

(20:25):
this is very very interesting. Looks like he spent more
than he took in in the last few years. So
I don't know where he is now in terms of
where his money is. But he's a formidable fundraiser. He's
a US senator, you guys, and I still think he
has presidential aspirations and this is just another way to

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shore up his sort of street cred because being a
governor of a state, he could be on MSNBC and
do all the things that would show up his fundraising nationally,
and I think he's going to be really, really tough
to beat. I just don't see anybody on the landscape
right now that he that could beat him. Now that's

(21:08):
not to say they're not good Republicans that I think
may or may not be considering a run. I would
love if Barb Kirkmeyer could could sort of rally the
troops around her. I don't think she has the name
ID and I don't think she has the fundraising capability
of Trying to think of any Republican that I'm that
I can think of that has those things that I
don't see one that could win a statewide race. So

(21:32):
I hate to say it. Governor Michael Bennett is Michael
Bennett is governor a good or bad thing for Colorado.
I don't know jack about him. It really depends on
whether or not he is willing to stand up to
the hard left of his party, which is running this state.
Because the fake libertarian Jared Polish just signed the most

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onerous gun restrictions in the country into law, and did
so while laughingly saying that it was going to make
us safer. It's not going to make any of us safer.
It's the stupidest thing ever. More restrictions on legal gun owners,
no increased penalties on criminals who actually use firearms to
commit crimes makes no sense. So would Michael Bennett pushed

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back or is he part of the most left part
of his coalition? I know in the Senate he's been
a reliable Democrat, meaning I don't know how much he's
broken from his party. Michael in it. Whoopsie, why don't
I spell that correctly? Votes with Democrats. Let's see, let's

(22:38):
see what comes up here. People. Oh, it's all about
his his running for office. So you know, he's voted
pretty consistently against everybody that Trump has nominated. He's voted, actually,
he's voted no on pretty much everyone that Trump has nominated.

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So you know how he'll be governor. I'm not sure,
especially because next year, according to the aforementioned Barb Kirkmeyer,
who's always on the Joint Budget Committee, we're going to
face an even larger budget deficit next year then we're
facing this year because of the overspending in this in
this seat, Mandy, if he wins, do you think he

(23:20):
will appoint Polis to his Senate seat. That is a
really interesting question. I had not considered until right this second.
When is Bennett up for reelection?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
When is.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Michael Oh well it Google heard me and yeah, he's
in office till twenty twenty eight, so he was supposed
to be up for reelection in twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
That would be something, wouldn't it. That would really be
something that's not that's not at all. I hadn't even
thought about that. Texter step out of me on this.
Would it benefit Jared Polis to have that on his
presidential resume as he runs for office. I don't know

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former governor or sitting senator and that at that point,
I mean, he's really he's hit for the cycle at
that point, right. I mean, he's been a governor, he's
been a congressman, he's been a senator. The only box
left to check would be president of the United States.
That's a really, really good point. Bennett for governor, says
his Texter, the mayor of Denver's endorsed him. That's all

(24:31):
I need to know.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
What about Mike Kaufman? Could he go head to head
with Bennett? If he ran, he could go head to
head but I don't think he could get over the
finish line. You guys, I don't know if people really
recognize the damage that the Republican brand has suffered in Colorado,
most of it self inflicted, and winning a statewide race
is going to be damn near impossible unless we have

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these kind of unicorn candidates with no baggage, never said
a single stupid in their entire lives, because that's all.
It'll be amplified by the press in especially in the metro.
You know, you're never allowed to make a mistake as
a Republican, whereas when you're a Democrat it's youthful indiscretion
or whatever personal problem, not not something to do with

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the office. Mandy, I don't understand how Bennett is a
good candidate. Here's how Bennett is a good candidate. He
has a name ID, he's a sitting US Senator. There's
nothing objectionable about Michael Bennett. I mean, he's like the
most milt toe senator ever, So there's nothing to attack

(25:36):
him on except maybe effectiveness, right, and he's got a
ton of fundraising opportunities. He's he's a former, he's a
sitting US centator. I mean he's just he's got a
lot of the metrics that are that are nothing to
do with policy. The other part about this conversation is
so much of an election has nothing to do with policy.
Democrats will fall in line behind Michael Bennett because all

(25:59):
those things I just said. He's a solid candidate, he's
got name ID, he's a fundraising you know, he's got
fundraising prowess. It's now going to open up his Senate
seat for another Democrat to run for that Senate seat.
We haven't even started talking about who's going to run
for that Senate seat. But in a state wide reach
for governor, I just don't see a Republican candidate that

(26:21):
has all of these same things, these these non policy
related things checked in the same way that Michael Bennett
checks it. So I would I would just say, you
would do well to pay attention to what Senator Bennett
says he's going to do, because I think there's an
extremely high likelihood that he will be the next governor
of the state of Colorado. So yeah, Mandy Poulis will

(26:44):
appoint Bennett's replacement. He can always replace. Well. See this
is interesting because years ago Charlie crist was governor of
the state of Florida when golly, I can't remember which
sitting senator left to take a different position in the
White House administration, he resisted appointing himself, and then he

(27:07):
appointed a well known placeholder, like one of his buddies.
But then the buddy ran for reelection and totally screwed him,
which I thought was hilarious and completely fine. Better or
worse than police asked this Texter. I don't know the
answer to this question, because Jared Polis has been happy
to oversee the growth of the regulatory state, the growth

(27:31):
of government. Overall, they've added seventeen new agencies, no more
than that, sixteen new agencies and seventeen thousand new government employees.
He has overseen the restriction of gun rights. He's overseen
the expansion of graphics, sexual education for little children. He
has overseen and probably will sign the bill that just

(27:51):
passed that essentially tells everybody in the state we have
to pay for abortions now with tax dollars, and that
abortion is going to be caught. It is codified in
the constitution. I mean, he's wildly left wing, so will
ben it.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Be that bad?

Speaker 5 (28:06):
God? I hope not, especially as Colorado has continued to
fall in business competitiveness, in the overregulation ranks, in the
cost of living ranks, all of the negatives in Colorado
have gotten so much worse that I have to believe
maybe Michael Bennett will pay attention to that and figure
out ways to reverse it. That that would put him
at odds with his caucus. So who knows. By sending

(28:28):
a text to five six six' Nine, zho a lot
of you are not thrilled with the potential Governor, bennett
And i'm here to tell YOU i think it is
not a, lock but dang pretty. Close and that's in
no way an endorsement Of Michael. Bennett i'm just saying
he checks a lot of the boxes that immediately make

(28:49):
him the front. Runner This texter, Said Michael bennett has
never ever shown any, backbone no way he would ever
buck The democrat. System he's the most e or like
politician in the. Government we shall. See, mandy do you
Think Lauren bobert might run for the office or is
there too much controversy with? HER i don't believe That

(29:10):
Lauren bobert can win a statewide. ELECTION i just don't see.
It she is despised by the same people who Despise Donald,
trump and that's why he lost so badly in this.
State SO i just don't see a path forward for
her on a statewide. LEVEL i don't ever see her
being A us. SENATOR i just unless something dramatically, CHANGED

(29:33):
i don't ever see her in that. Position so, NO
i don't think she is the right candidate for Governor.
Mandy it doesn't Matter. California it's here and coming harder,
yet is sure? Is and how's that going For? California
what's his stance On? Tabor, Well i'm sure it is
the same as His democratic, counterparts which is they know

(29:55):
how to spend our money better than we. Do then
it was a rubber stamp For obama And. Biden he
will be a rubber stamp for The dems in the state.
Legislature you, GUYS i don't. Know AND i mean this
WHEN i SAY i don't, know BECAUSE i do think
that there are Older, republicans AND i Know Michael bennett
isn't that, old So i'm not meaning to, say you,
know he's, geriatric but he is from a different generation

(30:19):
than the sort of young whipper snappers who are leading
The Democratic party right, now and In colorado it's even.
Worse so PERHAPS i don't. KNOW i Realize i'm Being.
Paulanna we'll just have to wait and.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
See.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Uh Mandy bennett will win. Easily no idea how he
would be for. Governor he's never taken a stance on anything,
ever no idea what his options, are and that's part
of the reason he's an attractive. Candidate there's no controversial decision.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
There you know WHAT i?

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Mean, Oh, god this text Or mandy Maybe taite can
Take bennett's. Seat god, Know, lord have. Mercy, No, Oh
Mandy bennett looks like a fly, fisherman so we should elect.
Him true and maybe not so. True Mandy bennett worked

(31:10):
for Phil. ANSHOOTS i Believe Mike kaufman would be a
good state white, candidate as he's equally milk Toast, republican
but he doesn't have the, name idea or the money
That Michael bennett. Has and that's the. Problem it's all about, name,
id it's all about. Money it's all about being palatable
enough to get through the primary and non offensive enough

(31:31):
to woo the. Independence and, AGAIN i don't see anyone
on The republican side of the aisle THAT i can't
even think of right, now who would be able to
sort of mitigate those built in advantages that again have
nothing to do with. Policy mandy blamed Ken buck For Michael.

(31:52):
Bennett he ran a terrible campaign against him in his
First senate. ELECTION i will just say, THIS i Ken
buck is one of those people that went TO dc
and just turned into a colossal disappointment to. Me So
i'm glad he's not in THE Us senate because he
couldn't even hang in The. House So i'm fine with. That,
oddly Watching bennett at the confirmation hearings told me. Everything

(32:17):
it certainly did show his hard left stance on. Stuff,
Mandy bennett is a, corruption is a corruption excuses and
does he have some little weird shady thing going on
with his BAT i don't think. So i'm telling you

(32:37):
get used To Governor.

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Speaker 5 (33:07):
Second hour of A Friday. Show i'm your, Host Mandy.
Connell that guy over there Is Anthony, rodriguez we call
him a rod and we're going to take you through
the next couple of. Hours coming up in about half an,
hour my friend Dep flora joining me to talk about
an upcoming. Event if you're A Doug co resident and
you want to learn more about this home rule, proposition
we have an event coming up that you are invited,

(33:28):
to unlike an event that has The Douglas County commissioners
in a bit of hot water because they all appeared
together in front of a private group that said the
media and no one not in the group was. Welcome
that seems to be an open meeting. Violation but we'll
find out more about that as it is. INVESTIGATED i,
mean on the face of, it it was an open meding.

(33:49):
Violation we'll see what. Happens but we've got a lot
we're going to do in this half hour BECAUSE i
have tons of stuff on the blog as, well and
one of them is a really good column By Rob
natlson THAT i want to get to you in just
a moment about The democrats deciding to use state money
to sue us the taxpayers via suing the state to

(34:13):
say that tabor the taxpayer's bill Of rights is. Unconstitutional
when you hear how stupid the whole thing, is your
mind will be. BLOWN i wanted to bring this story
up in the last hour because it kind of went
along with WHAT i was talking about WITH sb. Three
Since democrats started focusing in on what they called criminal

(34:36):
justice reform several years ago in concert with the riots
that followed the death Of George, floyd they have made
crime really attractive In, colorado really, attractive and any efforts
recently to make crime pay again have been met with
stonewalling and absolute antipathy by the same people who are

(34:57):
now trying to disarm law abidings cit. As they're not
doing anything to address criminals like the ONE i am
going to share with you right. Now first of, All AURORA,
pd keep up the good. Work keep sharing the stories
of the repeat offenders that you are, arresting because the

(35:17):
more people hear about how these, criminals violent dangerous criminals
accused of violent and dangerous things are being let back
out on the streets to offend, again maybe then we
can get serious about public safety in the. State listen to.
This an eighteen year, old who police to believe be
a repeat violent offender involved in multiple, crimes was arrested

(35:41):
in connection to a drive by shooting that seriously injured
a teen Last. Friday aurora police were responding to the
shooting at a gas station and the victim and five
associates told investigators that they were filming a music video
when numerous rounds were fired in their direction from a
white suv traveling south On Peoria. Street the cops took

(36:04):
pursued this, guy and they Arrested Mark, jackson an eighteen
year old From, aurora in connection to the. Shooting now
here's the fun part About Mark. Jackson jackson was convicted
of possession of a weapon by a previous juvenile offender
in a case from twenty twenty, three for which he

(36:26):
is serving a two year parole sentence from The Colorado
division Of Youth. Services in the last six, Months jackson
has been arrested twice for possession of a converted automatic.
Handgun he was on parole during both. Arrests In october
of twenty twenty, Four aurora police Arrested jackson in connection

(36:48):
to the carjacking that happened hours before his eighteenth. Birthday
he is the active defendant charge with attempted first degree
murder and attempted second degree, murder among other, charges in
A Rapahoe district. Court he posted an eighty thousand dollars
bond in that case and was free on bond at
the time of the drive by. Shooting now this time

(37:13):
he's been given a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Bond but why why is he being given bond? Again
by the, way this was just a random. Shooting there
was no motive other than this guy drove by these
kids filming a music video and decided open. Fire that's
who we're talking about. Here and yet in the state Of,

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colorado he's been arrested twice with an illegal firearm and
they did not pull his, parole they did not put
him back in. Jail when they did put him back in,
jail they let him out. Again thanks to The AURORA
pd for publicizing, this because how many other criminals are
just walking through the revolving door that is our justice
system here In. Colorado and every Time republicans try to

(37:58):
make committing a crime with an illegally owned firearm harder
on the, criminal The democrats kill. It And i'm not.
EXAGGERATING i, mean wouldn't you think wouldn't you think that
we could pass some kind of law that, says, hey
if you are a convicted, felon previously convicted for a firearm,

(38:20):
crime you don't get. Bond you just sit and jail
until you because you've proven yourself to be dangerous not,
once but now at least twice in this, case three four.
Times how many people does he have to be allowed
to kill before we actually do something to keep this
guy who is the problem off the. Streets the gun

(38:42):
here is not the. Problem it is the man illegally
possessing the. Gun and guess, what you know WHAT i bet?
YOU i, mean this is just gonna sound so, CRAZY
i realize even BEFORE i say, it BUT i will
bet you my next six paychecks that this gentleman did
not buy that firearm. Legally and after this stupid law
goes into effect that requires a training course for people

(39:05):
who want to buy a, gun he's not going to
take it because he's going to buy a gun. Illegally
and we don't track, that so we don't know how
many crimes are committed by people who are illegally possessing. Firearms,
now wouldn't you think that little nuggative information would be
critically important to crafting gun policy here in the state
Of colorado if they were actually serious about gun. Violence they're.

(39:28):
Not what they're trying to, do especially with this bill
they just. Passed they're trying to put gun stores out
of business by making it so onerous and awful to
buy a firearm here that nobody does, it and then great.
News then only the criminals buying guns on the black
market will have access to. Firearms. Fantastic we'll have a

(39:49):
fully disarmed population and The democrats will be able to
say we did, something even though it does absolutely. Nothing would.
Urge if you work for a different police, department you
gots stories like, this stories about this guy or guys like,
him or even women like him that are just career
criminals just cycling in and out of the, system because

(40:12):
our criminal justice system is nothing of the. SORT i
hope every police department starts sending these stories out because
we need to. Start we need to have a conversation
about who they are letting out of the system and
who facilitated that. Release it's not coming from The Republican.
Party NOW i want to get to this other story

(40:32):
about the attack On. Tabor, now the last polling DATA
i saw On tabor was was like that like seventy
plus percent Of coloraden's approof Of. Tabor and it's not even.
CLOSE i, mean it's just it's, like we love getting
our money back if we pay too.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
Much in.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
The larger part OF, tabor which is The Taxpayer's bill Of,
rights which merely limits the size of growth to population
increase and, inflation and it, says if you want to
raise our, taxes you have to ask our. Permission, now
this is so egregious to The. Democrats they despise having
to ask our permission before they take our. Money they hate,

(41:14):
It they absolutely hate it because a vast majority of
the time we're, like, no figure out a better way
to spend the money you already.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Have.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Well Rob naedelson is a constitutional specialist over at The Independence,
institute and he writes a column about the New house
joint resolution just. Passed forty four of one hundred lawmakers
are sponsoring, it and it is going to spend our,
hour yours in, mind our tax dollars on a lawsuit

(41:45):
that would void The colorado's taxpayer's bill of. Rights do
you know what grounds they're arguing. This they're saying that
because we have A republican form of government and we
elect representives to represent, us that we the, citizenry should
have no right to weigh in on any kind of

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limitation of what the legislature can. Do now that sounds
stupid to, You it sounds even dumber To Rob, natelson
and he rips it, apart piece by piece by. Peace
so one of the THINGS i want to share with
you are all the other ways that The Colorado constitution

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restricts what the government can. Do as originally, adopted and
this is From rob's, column The Colorado, constitution which remember
everyone agreed complied with The republican, form contained restrictions on
state taxation far more extensive than those imposed By. Taber,
specifically it limited the legislature to property taxes. Only it

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did not permit income taxes or other. Levies by, Contrast
taber permits a range of, levees stipulating only that income
taxes must be imposed at a flat. Rate that's another
thing that The democrats really really. Hate they hate a
flat rate income tax because they know that they can
never go and, say, yeah we're going to raise your income,

(43:11):
taxes because then the people in the middle and lower
income brackets would suffer. Mightily it's WHY i love. It
the constitution capped property taxes on a steadily decreasing scale
of mills per dollar of assessed. Value in other, words
as the amount of property, rose the constitution required taxes

(43:32):
to be. REDUCED tabor does not require tax. Cuts the
constitution prohibited the legislature from taxing certain kinds of property
and from exempting other kinds of. Property mines could not
be taxed for ten. Years taber says nothing on the.
Subject revenue bills had to begin in The house Of

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representatives in The General, assembly could not delegate the taxing.
Power these are all things that were in The Colorado.
Constitute and now The democrats seem to be ignoring That
taber undid some things that they would really. Hate could
you imagine if they UNDO, tabor then they're only going
to be able to talk taxes via property. Taxes that

(44:13):
would be, delicious absolutely. Delicious now they would turn around
and immediately institute an income tax because then they would
be completely. Unfettered and they know That colorado voters are
going to just watch the cost of living go, up
and watch the cost of regulation go, up and watch
inflation go, up and watch job creation go, down and

(44:33):
watch the business environment go. Down and they're never going
to Hold democrats responsible because they Hate republicans more than
they hate all of those things THAT i just. Said
that's the harsh reality of where we. Are sad but,
true my, friends sad but. True, MANDY i live In.
AURORA a team shot his pregnant girl behind my. House.

(44:55):
Yesterday someone stole my neighbor's toolbox out of his. Garage
the crime in my neighborhood really disappoints. Me, Well i'm
just GONNA i have a challenge for, You, texter And
i'm gonna, say AS i challenge, YOU i don't know
where it's gonna, Go but why not call The Aurora Police.
Department why not get some neighbors. Together why not see
if you can get a few people to call The

(45:16):
Aurora Police department and, say, hey would you come talk
to our community about what we can do to make
our neighborhood, safer how we can collaborate with the police
department to clean up our. Area because this is becoming. Untenable,
now what happens after, THAT i don't, know but at
least you know you've. Tried here's the, thing you. Guys
my husband AND i have both called the police department

(45:39):
or called the sheriff's department in places where we lived
and asked for collaboration on different, issues and they have
always been open to. It, now right, now we have
such a shortage of, cops not just An aurora but
in pretty much every, department so it may be tough
for them to, respond but at least they know at
that point that you are actively paying attention and you

(45:59):
actively want to be a part of the, solution. RIGHT i,
mean that's that's kind of WHAT i would. Suggest it
sucks when a neighborhood turns when you're living in, it
when you see it happening and you feel kind of
helpless to stop. IT i talked To Cindy romero earlier this.
Week she was the woman in that apartment complex and

(46:20):
In aurora that ended up being shut. Down she had to.
Move she lived there for years with no problems. WHATSOEVER
i asked, her by the, way AND i forgot to
ask her on the. AIR i asked her if she
had any problems with the landlords before the gangs moved,
in and she, said, no everything was. Great everything was. Great, So,
MANDY i wonder If Ian silveri was involved in The tabor.

(46:42):
LAWSUIT i have no way of knowing. THAT i don't
think on any official, basis But ian is certainly a
very well connected part of The Democratic. Party so we don't, Know,
mandy how come they didn't ask permission for the property tax.
Increase the property tax increase came when they dec coupled
us FROM i don't want to Say Blaine, amendment but

(47:05):
that's not. It when they debrust us when they did
away with the property tax amendment that created the situation
where property tax values were held up artificially, low so
they view it as not a tax. Increase property values,
skyrocketed and they did not drop the amount of the

(47:27):
mills that they're supposed to according To Colorado constitution because
that was changed In. Tabor it's very. Convoluted but they
just keep raising our, taxes calling them, fees and the
Liberal Colorado Supreme court has upheld, that which is. JUST i,
MEAN i don't even know they've raised taxes On COLORADO'S

(47:47):
i saw this the other. Day one of the reasons
everything has gotten so much more expensive here is because
we are being taxed on. Everything, guys they tax our
deliveries From, amazon tax, everything but they're called. Fees, now
we're not supposed to be upset about. Them mandy did
Dream democrat Ticket Governor bennett And Lieutenant Governor Britney Peterson,

(48:13):
gallagher thank You. Gallagher, wow could not think of that.
Word so there you. GO i hate it when you
live in a place Like colorado and you watch it go.
Downhill you know what's really even worse for? Me AND
i know this sounds so self. Serving i'm from the
state Of, florida and WHEN i was a kid and

(48:34):
Old florida was a, thing it is so different than
what there is. Now SO i already watched this. HAPPEN
i already watched an invasion of people from somewhere else In.
Florida It's New york And New, jersey AND i watched
them fundamentally change a, state and not in a good.
Way Now, florida leadership, wise is All republican, now and

(48:57):
that is mostly because there are so many retirees In
florida that are voting economically first and foremost so having
it happen again, here only politically this has gone in
a completely different. Direction it's just really really. Depressing So i'm, trying,
Guys i'm trying so, Hard. Mandy the state has gone.

(49:20):
BONKERS i live In Fort, collins you, know quiet Calm Fort.
Collins well used to be gang shooting at our mall
last weekend too. Dead then TODAY i just been one
hundred dollars on an oil. Change i'm losing my. Mind very. Disappointing, yep, Yep.
Mandy with this new gun, law if the future mass

(49:40):
shooter decides to obtain his weapons, legally wouldn't the eight
hour training course just make them more? Proficient, yes, indeed
we're just going to make better mass. Shooters Thanks, Democrats.
Mandy i'm telling, You aurora has turned into The Bay
root Of. Colorado wouldn't move over there if they gave
me a free. HOUSE i said it the other. Day you,

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guys they are beautiful parts Of. Aurora there are lovely,
neighborhoods there's lovely. Communities there are lovely parts Of, Aurora.
Colorado they're just unfortunately known for the parts that have
not been. Lovely so there you.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Go.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Mandy are people who have a concealed carry permit excluded
from the training? Requirements. Nope and when you have to
re up your concealed carry, permit you have to go
through fifty fresh new layers of. Hell they're making it
miserable to be a gun owner In. Colorado they're making
it miserable to be a landlord In. Colorado they're making

(50:39):
it miserable to be a small business owner In. Colorado
they're making it expensive to live In. Colorado so it's
going to become very quickly Like, california where they're going
to try and figure out a. Way if they can
get rid of, tabor then they can try and pass
a progressive income tax like they have In. California they

(51:01):
can put more people on welfare like they do In,
california and then when the rich people who are paying
for the people on welfare leave and they're just left
with the people on, welfare like In, California we're going
to see exactly how bad things can. Be so we
shall see all of this is just not good. NEWS
i wish there was something like right on the horizon

(51:25):
THAT i could, say, look there's this possibility we can
turn things. Around i'm hopeful that with the new leadership
that The Republican party can come together and, start you,
know coalescing around good ideas that will solve the problems
that we have in the state and then be able
to speak and sell them to the people Of colorado

(51:48):
in such a way that perhaps they will be persuaded
to go in a different. Direction but a lot of
people in this state vote on, emotion not rational, thought
AND i don't see that changing anytime. Soon. MANDY i
lived through this once, already grew up In Paradise mountains
in Southern, california left there after thirty, years and now

(52:09):
That i'm reaching retirement, age we're having to leave again
to somewhere more tax and expense. FRIENDLY i have true
bitterness Towards democrat, leaders AND i guess the idiots that
vote for. Them it's hard not to. Anyway i'm trying to, you.
Guys when you send two texts in a, row they

(52:30):
don't come in in.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
Order.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Mandy WHEN i Left, Dallas texas two weeks, ago they
asked me on the bus ride to the, airport where
are you? From AND i, Replied Cami. Rato WHEN i said,
that everyone on the bus laughed and said that's about.
Right there you. Go mandy is all emotion and no rational,
thoughts says This. TEXTER i, Wish oh, wow same. Texture

(52:56):
mandy is a dumb sea. Word that's. Fun you seem.
Nice where's the four h six area? Code that's What
i'd like to. KNOW i bet he's From. California mm Hmmm. Areau, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:11):
Montana you, guys we can see.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Your phone, numbers so IF i really wanted to reverse
search you right, NOW i. Could i'm not threatening, You.
Montana i'm just letting you know those things are available to.
Us so why don't you take your little happy happy sea?
Word and never? MIND i was going to respond in,
kind But i'm a better person than, you So i'll
just move. On flora joining me, today fresh back From New.

Speaker 10 (53:37):
Orleans oh, indeed, boy would you say Side hustle partner,
boy The Imagination?

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Races we are no only fans going on. There you
have to follow my social media and know What i'm talking.
About but we're not talking about that. Today, no we're.
Not we're Talking let's start with talking about something we
weren't necessarily here to talk. About but you just got
back To New. Orleans you spent yesterday at The World
WAR a ride has also bin to The World War

(54:01):
Two museum and said it was just absolutely. Incredible what
are your?

Speaker 8 (54:05):
Thoughts it was.

Speaker 11 (54:05):
Amazing so my husband AND i.

Speaker 10 (54:07):
Went he's an eighty Second airborne, veteran you, know he
studied military, history and so we've went to numerous military
and history.

Speaker 11 (54:14):
Museums there's something unique about The World War Two. Museum
it's a national.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
One it's In New, orleans completely different Than Bourbon, street
which is a whole other. Story but it was so,
immersive it was so, moving and WHAT i thought was
most moving about it was you saw the sacrifice of young.
MEN i mean we're talking, eighteen, seventeen nineteen years old
who just, said, yes this is the right, THING i
will do, IT i will show.

Speaker 11 (54:38):
Up and they were called The greatest generation for that.
Reason and some of them.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
LIED i met A World War two veterans that went
in at fifteen because he, lied and his, mom LIKE
i guess his mom backed him. Up, yes fifteen years,
Old like my daughter's. Fifteen now she's afraid to order
for herself At Fuzzy's, tacos you, know, right.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Right so it's so.

Speaker 10 (54:58):
INTERESTING i started babysitting WHEN i was twelve years, old
but when our daughter was, Twelve i'm, like oh, no too.
Young and now we are looking at this generation and
it hit me in many, Ways. Mandy one of the
ways was looking at the fact that you, know we
literally have created And i'm not blaming the younger, culture
but we put them in a circumstance where we have
communicated to, them.

Speaker 11 (55:18):
You're not, resilient you're not, strong you can't deal with.
Issues in, fact if you find a mouse.

Speaker 10 (55:24):
In your dorm, room call the, police, call you, know
go to your safe space with your. Crayons and this
generation took down the worst evil the world's ever. Seen
one other takeaway THAT i well, couple but it ends
by walking you through The, holocaust and that's always Just soberlus.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
MUSEUM i have that museum for me is every person
in the world should go through The Holocaust museum IN,
dc because when you see, that you begin to understand
the depths of depravity that human beings are capable.

Speaker 10 (55:58):
Of and the thing THAT i took away from that
is it's time we rein back in our public. Discourse
when you call someone that you disagree with politically or
ideologically A. Nazi you are doing a disservice and trivializing
right one of the most horrendous periods of human, history
and it's time we just step.

Speaker 11 (56:19):
Back you use that word all the.

Speaker 10 (56:20):
Time you were really literally taking the power away from
telling the story of The holocaust and what happened to these,
Individuals and everybody needs to really kind of check that
at the.

Speaker 11 (56:32):
Door there is evil in our.

Speaker 10 (56:35):
History there is evil in the, world but it's not
your neighbor who maybe has a different letter after their
name or a different sign in their yard when it
came to election. Season SO i think that that was
something that really hit.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Me wait a, MINUTE i want to take it from
there in a natural, Segue, okay to The Douglas county citizen. Recruits,
ye but you and your husband and several other wonderful people, said,
look we're we're tired of angry. Discord we just want
to create a space where people can hear from people
experts on different policy issues and sit around and have

(57:08):
a conversation here from people they might agree, with here
from people they might disagree. With and that is the
organization that is hosting a home a charter home rule
forges tell me about.

Speaker 10 (57:23):
That, yeah, absolutely and that is why a group of
us Founded Douglas County. Citizenry you notice nowhere in the
name are we declaring and planting our flag on one.

Speaker 11 (57:32):
Side versus the.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
Other we're talking about citizens coming together to be engaged and.
INFORMED i believe a lot of things that happen in
our state which are, extreme happen because people don't know
and we're.

Speaker 11 (57:45):
Not you, know we believe in The big. Ten we
truly do.

Speaker 10 (57:47):
Believe The constitution was written based on the idea that
eighty percent of people agree on eighty percent of, things
and let's come together and this stuff we. Don't then
let's not be afraid to ask. Questions, right there's so
much self censorship. Today people won't even ask a, question
even if they're afraid that people in their own party
are going to call them a. Name the men that
they even ask a. Question so that leads to the

(58:09):
town hall we're going to. Have it's going to Be
april twenty. Ninth it's open to the. Public it's going
to be At Northstar, academy which is a school In, Parker.

Speaker 11 (58:19):
Colorado so it's going to be as big as we
need it to.

Speaker 10 (58:22):
Be you're going to help me, moderate Which i'm glad about.
That and the whole point is, This we're going to
have not just one. Viewpoint we're going to have people
that talk about what home rule, is what home rule,
isn't what it, allows what it. Doesn't AND i want
to say ahead of, TIME i am a smaller government
proponent in every possible, way but EVEN i have a

(58:44):
lot of questions about home, roll, Right and it doesn't
mean at the end of the, day people might not, say,
yes this is the thing to, do but we have
a right to come together and get the full. Information
and that's what this is.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
About so who is going to be? There, okay who's
on Our?

Speaker 10 (59:00):
Yeah so what we have so, far and we'll keep
putting information. Out and by the, way if you're On,
facebook go To Douglas.

Speaker 11 (59:06):
County citizen read the. Page the group is private at.

Speaker 10 (59:09):
This time and you can certainly request to be a,
member but you have to buy the, way not.

Speaker 11 (59:13):
Call your neighbor a name to be on that.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Page but go.

Speaker 11 (59:16):
There we'll have details and we'll keep announcing more.

Speaker 10 (59:18):
People but right now we Have Douglas County Commissioner George,
teeal because the county commissioners have presented this as an.
Idea we Have Well County Commissioner Scott james Because Well
county is one of only two counties In colorado that
has home rule in this, way It's Well county And Pitkin.
County so we're going to find out what, works what doesn't,
work what challenges there. Are we have somebody coming From

(59:39):
Boulder county who's conservative but stood up against it there
because a lot of it is the devils are in the,
details you, know you, know what is?

Speaker 5 (59:46):
It that's my, question, Right that's that's my question BECAUSE
i And i've had people reach out to me and,
say what are you going to talk about this home rule?
Thing AND i, said WHEN i understand, It, yes WHEN
i understand what the real limitations. Are and that's Why
i'm excited we're having the guy From weld because a
lot of people are making a lot of suppositions that
we will be able to get out of this law

(01:00:07):
or get out of that, law AND i Currently i'm
not seeing. That So i'm interested to hear from Both Commissioner,
teel who is advocating for, this what his thoughts are
and then what the reality In Weld county, is because
politically we're very. Similar weld is more, red but Much Chows. County,

(01:00:27):
yeah So i'm very fascinated to find out all of
that stuff BEFORE i make a. Decision someone on the
text line just, said is this Just Douglas? County this
sounds great for all Of. Colorado it is Just Douglas.
County But i'm hoping to get enough of a handle
on it after this forum THAT i can come back
and talk to every one of my listening audience about

(01:00:48):
what this actually.

Speaker 10 (01:00:49):
Is, yeah and we're in the process right now of
identifying the right. Person we've got several folks in mind
who will be a part of that panel to talk.

Speaker 11 (01:00:58):
About what does this actually look?

Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
Like what state statute over, rules a county home rules? Statute,
Right not that it may sway people one way or the,
other they may already have made up their, minds but
at least we will have informed citizens right when they
vote on this and so much of, it by the,
way is the next step in this process is going
to be electing twenty one.

Speaker 11 (01:01:21):
Members, oh this is critical right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
Now, Yes so there's the deadline coming up for this
that is. Critical so The Home Rule Charter commission is
a group of twenty one citizens and In, june WHICH
i think is insane that we're having a special election for,
this but that's a whole conversation for another. Time they're
going to vote on Two Douglas county residents will vote
on two. Issues number, one whether or not to pursue

(01:01:44):
a home ruld, charter and number, two they will vote
on twenty one members of The Charter. Commission, now one
of the things that makes me distrustful of this process
currently is that apparently The county commission at hand picked
twenty one people that they were comfortable. With now that
doesn't mean they're necessarily going to be on the, commission

(01:02:05):
but the fact that they came loaded for bear and
literally brought all these people into our room so they
could sign each other's, petitions that to me Feels i'm
uncomfortable with. That, Right i'm just going to say.

Speaker 11 (01:02:15):
That, Well AND i think here's the.

Speaker 10 (01:02:16):
Thing you know WHY i, appreciate you, Know Commissioner tail
being a part of this is is it gives him
an opportunity to answer that, question to create that, transparency
which creates greater trust in the. Process but this commission
is going to be the key because this commission of
twenty one elected.

Speaker 11 (01:02:32):
Individuals and by the, way anyone who wants to run for.

Speaker 10 (01:02:35):
That it's only twenty five signatures you have to get
In Douglas county BY i believe It's april twenty. Fourth
but that, commission it's going to be The Home Rule, commission.

Speaker 11 (01:02:46):
Will come up with a.

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
Charter and that's where the details really come. In what
does the charter allow a home rule county to do?
IT a lot of it has to do with how
elected officials are chosen and different things like.

Speaker 11 (01:03:00):
That In Well county. Terms In Well, county for, instance
some of.

Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
Those county wide elected officials are now appointed by commissions
instead of. Elected that's all stuff that citizens should know
and find out more. About and that's why we're going
to have This Douglas County Citizen Retown.

Speaker 11 (01:03:19):
Hall and by the, way for the listener who asked.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
About, it this is Just Douglas.

Speaker 10 (01:03:23):
County, hey you don't have to be For Douglas county
to come to. This find out more about what home rule.
Means if you want it to come to your county
or you don't want it to come to your.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
County somebody just pointed this. Out, yes being informed is.
Important having the sessions recorded and also stream live on
YouTube will also create more community. Engagement is that going to?

Speaker 10 (01:03:41):
Happen, absolutely what we'll, do we probably won't live stream,
it but what we do For Douglas county citizen where
we have all kinds of. Panels we've, had you, know
a border panel with ice expert and law. Enforcement we've
had one on schools and what's going on, state, local and.

Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
National this one will be. Recorded we Will i'll post.

Speaker 10 (01:04:00):
It for everyone to see on The Douglas County citizenry,
page which is different than the private.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
Group it's the.

Speaker 11 (01:04:06):
Page it will be there for everyone to. See but
we encourage everyone to.

Speaker 10 (01:04:09):
Come we will be taking questions from those who, come
and that's going to be. Important we really believe the
founding of this country is based on a well educated
citizenry is the key to maintaining a free.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
Republic there are two dates that you need to keep in.
Mind the forum that is going to include much more
information isn't Until april twenty. Ninth if you are a
person who would like to be a part of This Charter,
commission you've got to get your application in by the twenty.
FOURTH i on the blog. TODAY i just added it
all the details about how to get a. Petition you

(01:04:43):
have to have twenty five. Signatures they will be, verified
so make sure that you know who's signing these. Petitions
but then you have to appear on the. Ballot but
it's all going to be done in By april twenty,
Fourth so it's all on the blog. Today Deborah, flora
thank you for coming in today and talking about.

Speaker 12 (01:04:58):
This thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:04:59):
Always good to with my sister from another. Message, yeah that's.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
Right we will be back right after this coming up
in a little bit at about two. Thirty we're going
to talk To National right To Work Committee President mark
Mix there has been a Federal right To Work committee
or excuse, me right to work bill that has been.
Filed we're going to find out about that in just
a little bit right, now, though, GOSH i don't have
very much time in this, segment and there's multiple THINGS

(01:05:25):
i want to get, to But i'm gonna get to
The denver. Story. Now you, know we've talked about Downtown.
DENVER i DON'T i feel Like i've spent hours talking
about Downtown denver on this, show AND i do it
as someone rooting for Downtown. DENVER i think that having
a vibrant city center is so important to our, state
And i'm worried that Downtown denver is headed for a doom.

(01:05:48):
Loop But i'm encouraged because, finally two and a, half
three years too, late the mayor is finally starting to
do something about public safety in. Downtown he's committed a
lot of money with The Denver Downtown partnership to ensure
that there's increased foot. Patrols they're moving the horse patrol
back to. Downtown they are upping the number of visible

(01:06:09):
police officers that you're going to see in downtown at
any given time in an effort to fight the crime
that has, been according to, them dropping over the last
couple of. Years BUT i say it like that according to,
them because they just did a survey of people In,
denver and they surveyed they surveyed local, visitors they surveyed,

(01:06:31):
residents they surveyed office workers Between september And, october and
they're just wanting to gauge how downtown is. Doing this
is not great. News about fifty five percent of respondents
said they agree Downtown denver offers a great. Experience that's
a good fifty five. Percent that is down dramatically from

(01:06:54):
the last time they asked this question in twenty twenty.
Three back then it was seventy three, percent so that's
an eighteen point. Drop for the, rest thirty four percent
said they feel neutral and eleven percent said they. Disagree
and what's interesting to me is that answers varied across

(01:07:14):
the different types of people who go. Downtown residents in
the city, corps and office workers are more likely to
have positive, views while visitors had the. Lowest that is
not good news on a town that used to have
a vibrant tourism. Economy this stuff is not. Good no,
bueno no. Bueno but the reality is is perhaps maybe

(01:07:39):
with all of this injection of, police which is something
that people like me have been talking about for two,
Years i'll take it whenever it gets. Here hopefully we
can begin to turn this around because all of this
should be rooting for Downtown. Denver all of us should
be rooting that that ship rises and. BRINGS i said
ship with a P after it came out of my,

(01:08:01):
MOUTH i was, like that did not sound quite as
clear AS i would have. Preferred when we get, BACK
i have a story out Of Jefferson county That Jefferson county,
PARENTS i promised you IF i lived, THERE i would
be at the school board meetings with a pitchfork and
a torch because it is out of. Control i'll share that.

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Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Blarell going to the third hour of the. Show coming
up in a little. Bit we're going to talk TO
ceo of The National right To Work. Committee there's A
national To Work bill that would prevent unions from being
able to force you to give you their money if
you did not want to belong to a, union WHICH
i am wholeheartedly in favor. For and in the, meantime,

(01:09:11):
THOUGH i first of, ALL i gotta tell you guys
this The montana guy who called me THE c, word still?
Listening still? Listening oh, oh sorry about? That AND i
just realized two o'clock is our next, guest AND i
completely forgot, it even THOUGH i was very excited to
talk to him because he is as concerned about our

(01:09:32):
robot overlords AS i, am although he may say it
a bit. DIFFERENTLY i have to welp fhis will hope
to the. Show he is not only AN ai tech,
innovator he's written a book called Transcend Unlocking humanity in
The age OF. Ai Faisil welcome to the. Show first of,
all thanks for having. Me so you work IN ai

(01:09:53):
and yet you are sounding the caution button on ADVANCING
ai and putting human beings is out of? Work how
how did this? All how did you get from point
A ai innovator to, hey, guys we should probably slow
down just a bit on.

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
This, WELL i don't know too many technologists who are
not working WITH ai in some shape or, form because you,
know you have to DEFINE ai in a multi water
except we have been using air for quite a. While you,
know if you think about your, car your, phone it
all has some level of artificial. Intelligence so but you,

(01:10:32):
know we're progressing at a very fast space and now
we have humanoid, Robots we're going to have self driving.
Cars so a lot of those things is going to
have a larger societal and economic impact that we haven't
quite thought. Through so imagine you walking into the top

(01:10:54):
of bell uh and now your pop water is being
taken by a human as robot versus an eighteen year
old who has had his or our first. Job so
that's that's really the balance that we need to look
for as we move forward with this.

Speaker 5 (01:11:13):
TECHNOLOGY i read something where you essentially, said, look no
jobs equals no. Economy humans become destructive when they have no.
Purpose we can't turn society on its head just because
the technology is. There who is this progress actually? Benefiting
and THOUGH i don't disagree with the statement especially and
we'll just call it idle hands are the devil's. Workshop

(01:11:34):
the old adage that when people don't have anything to,
do they're probably going to get into. Trouble but do
you think that they had similar conversations around The Industrial
revolution when all of a, sudden machinery was replacing human.
Labor and are we sounding the alarm too? Quickly?

Speaker 6 (01:11:51):
Well you, know so there's two camps of. Thoughts there's
like everything is going to be, utopian that's one kind
of thought. Process and other thought is that you know
the world is going to come to an end because
it's going to be taken over by. ROBOT i think
the truth is somewhere in. Between what's difference about, This,

(01:12:11):
uh you know this stage of evolution of human history
with this technology that up until, now we have never
created anything that could be actually potentially much or smarter
than we are in terms of, thinking, processing, uh you,
know ability to move things, physically et, cetera et. Cetera,
right so in during The Industrial, revolution we didn't treat

(01:12:35):
things uh you know that are smaller than. Us we
created things that actually helped. Us it still required human. Skills.
Uh so this is the key. Difference, Right so it's
not you, know you don't have to get to the
extreme viewpoint that uh you, know we're going to be all,
replaced but there would be some level of job replacement

(01:12:56):
as not just some job will be, created but there'll
be a, gap you, know to catch up with this
because the technology is moving, faster then we can reskill
and rethink and redeploy it where people are going to.
Go like simple example, is, okay if you're going to
have all self driving, CARS i mean you're going to
have these, robots you, know starving you on your fast.

(01:13:20):
Food what happens to those resource, fools, right what do they?
Do you? Know SO i don't think we know that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Answer, NO i agree with you as a. MATTER i
mean to be, CLEAR i am very concerned about, this
AND i think what's going to be kind of, interesting
and as someone who works in the, field maybe you'll
be able to clarify this thought a little bit. MORE
i think that there is a view among, people especially
certain white collar, workers that the people that are going
to be displaced are only fast food workers or only

(01:13:48):
these sort of entry level. Jobs but what industries do
you see being the most vulnerable that don't necessarily fall
into those.

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
Categories, so, LOOK i think every job category is going
to be affected by. This so simple, example white color
job is a graphic, designer, Right so we have graphic
designers that used to do our logos and you, know
ad campaign or, whatever you, know copy editing and looking,
pretty you, know making our websites pretty and all that.

(01:14:17):
STUFF i can go to a you, know a bunch
OF ai tools right now, today WHEREBY i can generate
all my graphics WHERE i don't almost don't need a graphic, designer. Right, so,
so so what happens to the graphic designer as an,
example so the graphic designer will have to elevate their
game knowing this tools so that they can produce. More,

(01:14:39):
so as a business owner or a, uh you, know
A ceo of a, organization say, OKAY i may not
need ten graphic, designer BUT i have a toobed graphic
designer who are expert normally in design, sets but also
generating these things utilizing it. On so the white color

(01:14:59):
X t is going to become critical in terms of
the domain, expertise not necessarily just doing the way they
used to do. Things so the better domain experts are
going to be the BETTER ai. Users. Right, so but
you're not going to need the same amount of people
to do even white collar, jobs just as an example

(01:15:20):
THAT i give you them with the graphic.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
Devetter that's that's kind of WHAT i was thinking. OF
i think some of the industries That i'm seeing would
be the most, vulnerable maybe computer programming and you, know computer,
science because then you could do a much more coding
with a smaller number of people USING ai to fill
in the. Gaps, RIGHT i, mean there are all These
i'm hoping they can't replace talk show hosts just, yet

(01:15:43):
BUT i do worry about that in the, future we'll
see about, that you, know, technologically what answers or what
suggestions do you have suggestions about the way we could
mitigate this without slowing progress for the sake of slowing,
progress if that makes.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
Sense we're not gonna slow progress because that's not our
in human, nature because it's driven by given by, innovation
is driven by, entrepreneurship and it's driven by profit and. Growth,
right that's how economy. Grows, Right so so we're not
Gonna we're not gonna slow. Down so that that that

(01:16:22):
board has already. Left what we have to, do as
an individual and as an organization is learn how we
can elevate ourselves to the next level so that we
don't become. Obsolete that's the only Only god grail you.
Have so what you, know you're you're just giving an
example as a. Programmer you, KNOW i can tell you

(01:16:42):
as an ex programmer or who's still kind of dealt with,
technology is that you, know you may not have to write,
code but you have to you have you, know you
you have to still produce. Spoducts so maybe you don't write,
codes maybe you become a better product designer and you
level these tools to create application and software, faster, right

(01:17:04):
and it applies even for, researcher right BECAUSE i write
AND i do a lot of. Research i'm using air
engine to do a lot of, research But i'm not
letting THE ai engine write my output because it's just
not it doesn't come out like in my you, know
the WAY i would would stop Because i'm adding a
different level of, value just like as a talk talk

(01:17:25):
to your, hosts and when you have a certain, value
it's your, persona the way you engage with with the.
AUDIENCE i, mean you, know actually there are pools that
can do that, now but it's not the, same you,
know it doesn't have. Soul so we all have skill
and kind of retool ourselves to the next. Level and
the people who are going to survive are just always

(01:17:46):
going to be the one that stay. Ahead but there
will be certain level of a job loss no matter
how we look at, it at least the initial state
as we get you, know as we get kind of
at that option car. Staceover it happened with every technological,
evolution but this is going to be even faster than

(01:18:07):
what we have ever seen in our.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
History Fisl hoak is my. Guest he is the author
Of Transcend Unlocking humanity in The age OF. Ai. Fisl
thank you so. MUCH i put a link on my
blog today to your website where people can buy the
book and find out more information if they want to
find out what our overlords will be as we moved
into THIS ai world that we're. Creating thank you so
much for your time.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Today thanks for having.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Me all, Right we'll be right. Back we've Got mark
mix he is the president of The National right To
Work committee and they just got a bill filed And
i'm pretty excited about. That we've got a lot of
stuff on the blog today that we are not we
just don't have time to Get the bloated state budget has.
Passed if you want to see what's in it what's,

(01:18:51):
not you can find that on today's. Blog and by the,
way Ay, rod DID i mention you can Find mandy's.
Blog do you know how to find, It? Anthony it's real.
Simple you go to mandy'sblog dot com that takes you
to The Kawa Mandy connell, page look for the section
that says latest, posts and then look for a headline
that has today's date in it with the word blog

(01:19:12):
after it and then click on that and, boom there it.
Is Well i'm not doing the whole thing right, now
did you stop? IT i thought the band had left
for the.

Speaker 8 (01:19:24):
Day, no they're always they were.

Speaker 9 (01:19:27):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Much yeah, yeah, yeah that Is. Uh we Don't we
don't pay the. Band we just give them booze and
send them on their. WAY a couple of stories from
the bottom of the blog THAT i went hit really.
QUICKLY i love this kind of baseball. Story, Okay amari
And boyd became the first minor league player in at

(01:19:49):
least twenty. Years what do you think he, did a
Rod what do you think he did first in twenty?
Years and by the, way this particular thing hasn't happened
in The Major league league since nineteen oh.

Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
One in twenty years from, NOW i would, say be
a knuckleball. Pitch.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
Now, now he stole six bases in one, game which
is very. Impressive but he did it without notching one single.
Hit so he got to base six, times being walked
a fielder's choice and being hit by a. Pitch so
he got to first base and then stole second and

(01:20:26):
third three.

Speaker 7 (01:20:27):
Times never stole. Home, NOPE i just think that's.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
COOL i love, weird little quirky baseball things like. This he,
plays by the way for the high A, Beloit wisconsin.
Team of, course you, KNOW i know, then, Yeah Beloit.
Skycarp you REMEMBER i was gonna wear my skycarp jersey,
today BUT i decided against it at the last. Minute

(01:20:51):
that's a terrible. Name what is it, again The beloit?
Skycarp what in the WORLD i got to look up
where that came, From, Beloit Scott and what kind of
logo you got with? SKYCARP i, mean who wants to
buy a cuddly? Skycarp this is Why dinger is so,
brilliant because every little kid wants a little plushy Of.
Dinger nobody wants the. Skycarp what is the meaning of the?

(01:21:16):
Skycarp it is a slang term for, goose denoting them
as the aerial equivalent of the world's most common. Fish
but The beloit, skycarp depicted in the primary logo wearing
a scarf and carrying a, wrench is.

Speaker 8 (01:21:31):
A special sort of.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
Goose it's born and, bred loves its, home and has
no plans on, Leaving so it is a cool. Logo
it's got a little bit of a shade of The
San Jose sharks in, it a little bit same kind of.
Colors so that's the, thing you, Know, now a guy
six stolen bases without getting on. Base got a couple

(01:21:54):
of videos on the blog that you really should watch
one of. Them one of them is a perfect example
of WHY i, know, ever, ever ever want to be super,
famous and it's Poor Justin. BIEBER i feel very maternal
Towards Justin. BIEBER i don't know, why maybe because he
was a baby AND i was already a grown up
when he became a. Star But i'm rooting for him

(01:22:15):
and his wife so, hard AND i just think he's
going through a really difficult time because child stardom corrupts
so badly that it is incredibly difficult to have your
head on straight and be a normal human being when
you are a child. Celebrity, FIRST i think it's just
really really. Challenging but he's talking to the paparazzi and

(01:22:35):
the paparazzi is in his face while he's trying to
go get coffee and he's, yelling, oh you want his,
money and he's completely, right one hundred percent. Right so
that is on the blog today as. Well now when
we get Back National right To Work president of the,
committee Rather National right To Work, Committee Mark, mix gonna

(01:22:56):
join us next to talk about a new bill that
may make some moves In colorado a moot. Point we'll
do that. Next there's nothing Less american than to me
than a union that you don't want to be a
part of taking your money. Anyway And Mark mix is
the president of The National right To work A, committee

(01:23:19):
and they have just seen a bill introduced that would
prevent that from. Happening. Ever, Again, mark welcome to the.
Show first of, All, mandy good to be with.

Speaker 12 (01:23:28):
You thanks for the.

Speaker 9 (01:23:29):
Opportunity there's a lot of, news for, sure on our
front and on lots of. Fronts so let's get. Started
what was just.

Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
Filed what are we looking at nationally in terms of
a right to work?

Speaker 9 (01:23:38):
Bill, Yeah, mandy we have refiled what we call The
National right To Work, act and it is really a simple,
bill believe it or. Not it's a one page. Bill
it does not add a single word to federal. Law
it simply goes into the federal statute that was passed
back in the nineteen, thirties and it says the bias
in federal law will be in favor of volunterior, unionism not.

(01:24:01):
Compulsion the bill's got about ninety two ninety three co
sponsors in The house AND i think twenty one in The,
senate so.

Speaker 12 (01:24:08):
We're building support for. It but real simple, stuff real
one page, bill easy to.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
Understand so what are the chances of this actually coming
out of The house And? Senate Because democrats have lost
a tremendous amount of ground with the. Unions we saw
not a full, shift but there was a flirting by
the unions with The Republican party That i've never seen
in my. Lifetime so it stands the reason you're probably

(01:24:33):
not going to get Any democratic. Votes so what are
the chances of this coming out and becoming law in your? Estimation,
well in.

Speaker 9 (01:24:40):
This Particular, congress we never know until we get the,
vote and that's the important. Thing we want to have
a roll call vote on it so The american people
can decide who's for freedom and who's for coercion in
The american. Workplace it really is that, Simple, mandy and
you framed it up really. Well the notion, is if
you want to join a, union have at. It your
rights are protected under federal law amplify your voice by

(01:25:01):
joining together with other. Workers but no one should be
forced to pay money or, actually for that, matter forced
to associate with the union they want nothing to do. With,
unfortunately that's the law in the land right. Now you
can lose your job if you don't financially support a labor.

Speaker 8 (01:25:17):
Union that's.

Speaker 12 (01:25:17):
Wrong it's On American eight out of Ten americans know it's.

Speaker 9 (01:25:20):
Wrong but, politically to your, point we won't get a
Single democrat on this, Bill, yeah for, Sure AND i
know that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
There are probably Some republicans in more purple districts who,
would you, know maybe be cautious about voting for. This
let me ask you a devil's advocate question, mark because
this is one of the biggest questions that people ask
me WHEN i talk ABOUT i don't believe a union
should be able to take your money if they can't
convince you to, Join, like if you want make a better, argument,
RIGHT i, mean tell me WHY i should. Join but
why don't unions because they always come back and, say,

(01:25:49):
look you enjoy the benefits of collective. Bargaining why won't
unions just let people Say i'm going to go my
own Way i'm going to negotiate my own. STUFF i
don't need your. Help why can, yeah we just do.

Speaker 12 (01:26:00):
That, WELL i think there's a couple of.

Speaker 9 (01:26:03):
Reasons the big reason is because unions like the idea
that they have the ability to force. People but, Secondarily
mandy and this is probably the most important, part whether
it be In denver Or, WASHINGTON, dc and that is
the political conformity that comes with forced. Unionism the money
that unions, raise the union officials raise through compulsion and through,
force turns around and is converted into political. Money, obviously

(01:26:26):
they have a pack that's, voluntary whether or not you
support The Political Action. Committee but unions are, deeply deeply
involved in political mobilization and grassroots.

Speaker 12 (01:26:35):
Power and one of the reasons why.

Speaker 9 (01:26:37):
They can do that is because they are a thirty
billion dollars a year business and they spend anywhere from
two to ten billion dollars depending on what reports you
look at for. Politics and so if they got involved
in politics like they do, today a lot of workers
would say absolutely, NOT i don't want to support. You
if they stuck to the shop floor for bargaining, purposes

(01:26:57):
what was happening on the shop floor instead of standing
up for all these radical other ideas that they stand
up and, support AND.

Speaker 12 (01:27:03):
I think workers would be very comfortable with.

Speaker 9 (01:27:05):
That but it's the force conformity that comes that is
really their most negative selling, point that's for.

Speaker 12 (01:27:10):
Sure the thing that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Gets Me mark is that right now we have a
lot of people who are very aware of the disparity
BETWEEN ceo pay and worker. Pay you have a lot
of workers that are facing potential. Layoffs there's so many
reasons that a union could make an argument to a
worker that would, say here's what we're going to do for,
you here's what we're going to do in terms of

(01:27:32):
job protections and all of. This and yet instead of
making those arguments and making them more, compelling this is
the hell they want to die. On and In colorado
we've now got this complete upending of The Labor Peace.
Act would this bill IN dc supersede any changes That
colorado is trying to?

Speaker 8 (01:27:52):
Make?

Speaker 12 (01:27:52):
Now, yeah it actually.

Speaker 9 (01:27:55):
Would it basically would say that well In colorado because
states can.

Speaker 12 (01:27:59):
Pass right to work.

Speaker 9 (01:28:00):
Laws one of the elements of the labor policy In
america is after twelve years of just absolute growth in
the union movement because of the compulsion that was granted
in the nineteen. Thirties in nineteen forty, seven they passed
what is known of The Taft Hartley act that allowed
states and territories to basically outlaw the closed. Shop colorado
in nineteen forty nine passed what was called The Labor Peace,
act which is basically a second.

Speaker 12 (01:28:21):
Vote so the first vote is to certify the.

Speaker 9 (01:28:24):
Union the second vote, then and you have to get
a larger than regular just a simple majority to say, That,
okay we're going to be in the. Union but in
order for you to force everyone to pay, dues we've
got to have a second.

Speaker 12 (01:28:36):
Vote that's the.

Speaker 9 (01:28:37):
Difference Between colorado and the twenty six states that have
right to work laws on the books is that the
union security clause is. Prohibited if we passed our, bill
then the federal law would preempt that second.

Speaker 12 (01:28:49):
Vote it would say you can't have a union security.

Speaker 9 (01:28:51):
Agreement so that bill is obviously heading To Jared, POLIS
i mean maybe on his desk.

Speaker 12 (01:28:56):
ALREADY i think it might, be and he's asking the
legislature to kind of work it over a little.

Speaker 9 (01:29:01):
Bit because he doesn't want to he doesn't want to
take away that second, vote but he also wants to
give union. Power so if this, passes The Labor Peace
act that's part Of colorado legislative strategy right now.

Speaker 12 (01:29:12):
Would, disappear and one vote would get to any.

Speaker 9 (01:29:15):
Union and then union, security the idea that the union
gets secure by forcing workers to pay, dues that would
no longer be a second. Question it would come along
with the negotiation right after the union certified to, vote
and basically in every contract they get the union security.
Clauses the one thing they get right off the, bat
because they want that more than anything, else is the
ability to force every worker to pay. Dues that would

(01:29:38):
happen If Paul as signs the bill as it's currently,
promulgated it would eliminate that second.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Election other than the government which forces us to pay
taxes against our, will is there any other organization or
entity that has the ability to forcibly take my money
away without my?

Speaker 9 (01:29:53):
Permission, No, mandy that's a great question and a great.
Point you, know unions always say, that they, say, well
you have to pay.

Speaker 12 (01:30:00):
Your, taxes don't. You but if we're equating.

Speaker 9 (01:30:04):
Private union organizations and an equal status of a sovereign
of a, government we've made a huge mistake because they're.

Speaker 12 (01:30:11):
Not they're a private. Entity they should have no, quote sovereign.

Speaker 9 (01:30:15):
Power they shouldn't be between elected officials and citizens who
elect those elected officials like they are in the public,
sector and they certainly shouldn't have the ability to force
someone to. Associate we think that's A First amendment, violation
and we certainly think they shouldn't be able to force
someone to pay dues in order to get or keep a.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
Job so let me ask you this question specifically about union.
History have unions been so successful in passing legislation around, work, say,
safety around the amount of hours someone can, work around over,
time around all of these. Things have they legislated themselves
out of usefulness except for collective.

Speaker 9 (01:30:54):
Bargaining, yeah, yeah that's kind of the substitution. Theory you,
know the union officials will take it for everything they possibly.
Can you, know they take credit for the eight hour
workday and all this other, stuff and there's some merit to, That.
Mandy they are successful, politically and so now the government
comes in and basically protects a lot is involved in

(01:31:14):
a lot of these issues that unions would have used
as kind of marketing tools way back. When but the
idea of employers email one assumes that their static behavior by.

Speaker 12 (01:31:24):
Employers that's not true.

Speaker 9 (01:31:25):
Anymore we know that an employer has to in order
to attract talent to basically provide the services that he
wants to provide or the products where they want to,
provide they've got to take.

Speaker 12 (01:31:35):
Care of their. Workers and employers are doing that, now and.

Speaker 9 (01:31:38):
That's probably one of the biggest issues as it comes
to why workers aren't joining, unions because employers understand there
is a scarcity of labor and its scarcity of quality,
labor and once you find someone that's, good you pay
them and the market system takes. Over union officials don't
believe that businesses are capable of anything that's positive or,
good and so that's why they continue to, say you,

(01:31:58):
know we have this comfation model between capital and, labor
and when it comes to small, businesses they're the ones
that really get beat up the.

Speaker 12 (01:32:06):
Most these large.

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
Corporations there may be some merit to, that but for
most folks out, there it's pretty.

Speaker 12 (01:32:11):
Standard take care of your, employees they take care of.

Speaker 9 (01:32:13):
You and that's why only five point nine percent of
the private sector workforce is unionized.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
Today is there any chance that we roll back federal
unions or government, unions because EVEN fdr who was very pro,
union said we cannot have a public sector union because
then we're what are we negotiating against The american.

Speaker 12 (01:32:31):
People that's exactly, Right, mandy and you got it. Right
roosevelt was against it when asked about it in the nineteen.

Speaker 9 (01:32:38):
Thirties amazingly, enough THE Aflcio Executive committee was against it
when they talked about it back in the late nineteen.
Fifties George, meenie the president of THE, aflcio, said we
don't unionize government. Employees but yet today almost fifty percent
of all union members In america today are employed by either, state,
local or the federal. Government the question about rolling it
back at the federal. Level Donald trump and his team

(01:33:00):
are doing that in a major. Way that's one of
THE i think one of their primary focuses, THAT i,
mean there's so much going, on we kind of lose
perspective on all the things that are. Happening but he's
certainly trying to roll back the power of unions when
it comes to the federal.

Speaker 12 (01:33:13):
Workforce for.

Speaker 9 (01:33:14):
Sure he signed an executive order two weeks ago that basically,
said we're not going to be.

Speaker 12 (01:33:18):
Bargaining over with any agency that has a national.

Speaker 9 (01:33:22):
Security, profile for, Example we're not going to negotiate over you,
know critical processes of the government when it comes to an.

Speaker 12 (01:33:28):
Emergency and so a lot of the fight that's going
on right, now.

Speaker 9 (01:33:31):
And there's litigation all over the place on this is
over whether or not government unions are going to maintain
the power they have over the federal. Workforce and of
course that trickles down into the states and the local
localities as.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
Well mark mix is my, guest he is the president
of The National right To work A. Committee, well let
me ask you, This, mark and before we, go and
that is around the, country are other states going after
labor laws because this this this attack on the Peace Labor.
Acts no one was calling for. This there wasn't this

(01:34:05):
you and cry across the land to do something to
make it easier to force people to have to give their.
Money are unions starting to organize the states that don't
have solid right to work protections and trying to undermine.

Speaker 12 (01:34:18):
Those, yeah, absolutely they go after the right to work
laws all the.

Speaker 9 (01:34:23):
Time and, said in, Fact sean O'Brien just this past
week on his podcast Called Better Bad, ideas which is
kind of an interesting title for a, podcast was talking
to our New Labor, Secretary Laurie Chavez, dreamer who was
against right to work, laws basically, said you know what
we have to do as our mission is we need
to repeal right to work, laws and we need to
go after the right to work.

Speaker 12 (01:34:42):
LAWS i, mean that's his.

Speaker 9 (01:34:44):
Primary objective in, life is to make sure that every
worker In america is forced to pay union dues in
order to work instead of selling a product to. Workers In,
utah for, example the state legislature just repealed the bargaining
law for government employees in that. State it was signed
by the. Governor unions you're trying to fight. Back they're
trying to repeal that that law that just was passed
by the legislature and signed by the governor In. UTAH i,

(01:35:06):
mean there's a lot going, on particularly with government unionization
because everyone who has It, California New, York, illinois those,
states they're going bankrupt because of that.

Speaker 12 (01:35:16):
Power and one of the questions In colorado is the.

Speaker 9 (01:35:19):
SAME i, mean you guys have been battling over county
employee unionization over the last several legislative, sessions you, know
and you.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Got some of.

Speaker 12 (01:35:25):
It you don't have all of it, yet but they're
working to get all of.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
It Mark, MIXED i put a link to your website
on my blog today so people can find out more
about the National right to work. MOVEMENT i really appreciate
your time and your passion for this. Topic, mandy thank.

Speaker 12 (01:35:39):
YOU i always appreciate your interest in it as.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
Well all, right thank you. Again That's Mark. Mix you
can find a link to their website on the blog.
Today look what the cat dragged?

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Barely drags me.

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Ben So, ben you've been dipping your toe a little
bit more on Your facebook page into the tariff situation and.
Whatnot AND i read your posting about bond markets And

(01:36:13):
Janet yellen and all of this stuff and all of this,
stuff AND i talked To ross about this. Yesterday i've
been consuming so much from every SOURCE i can find
on what's going, on trying to see the forest for the, trees,
right because there's so many different aspects of this and
the aspect that you honed in, on which was treasury.
Bonds there was a lot right. There BUT i just

(01:36:35):
want to take a moment and talk about what a
garbage Job Janet yellen did because she did not lock
people into long term debt at two point five. Percent
what a disastrous rain As treasury. Secretary her failures will
go down as an absolute like maybe the Worst treasury secretary,

(01:36:56):
ever just for that.

Speaker 8 (01:36:56):
Alone i'm not a.

Speaker 13 (01:36:57):
Fan of the current secretary for other reason since but
she might go down as the absolute worst of all.
Time who who who pegs our refinancing to climbing interest?
Rates if anybody's ever refinanced personal, debt you know you
don't want to refinance at a higher, Rate and and
that's essentially what she. DID i understand sort of the
concept at the, time you're trying to provide a pool

(01:37:18):
liquidity in a, uh you, know in A covid era.

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
INFLATION i think for, her she was more afraid of
having two percent mortgage rates go to two point five.

Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
Percent she was really.

Speaker 5 (01:37:29):
Stupid she is The she is.

Speaker 8 (01:37:31):
Obset if you know anything About, jennyille she's obsessed with
low interest. Rates WHICH i, am but not that sort of.
Right so, yeah IT'S i don't, know like.

Speaker 13 (01:37:42):
ECONOMICS i want to say it's like a hobby of,
mine but that's probably under selling. It it is an
obsession of, mine and so watching people and trying to
educate them, lately especially on The triffin, paradox which is
really what's coming into play right now as we saw,
uh you, Know Donald trump and them trying to lower
the value of the dollar.

Speaker 8 (01:38:00):
In try to keep bond rates low at the same.

Speaker 5 (01:38:03):
Time and that's so you can take yet with re valued,
current with refinancing the little.

Speaker 13 (01:38:09):
Rate but the problem is that is that it is financial.
Alchemy it's like trying to bulk up while slim down
at the same. Time you should trip the body on
it for a little, bit but eventually the bill comes to.
Uh and so it's it's sort of fascinating to me
trying to explain what This This Belgian american economist back
in the sixties figured out that we have not figured
out a solve for in the last well sixty.

Speaker 5 (01:38:28):
Years part of WHAT i think is going on here
too is THAT i don't believe the tariffs are mean
means to an End Scott bessont had a long conversation
With Tucker, carlson and THOUGH i don't Watch tucker's show
normally BECAUSE i think he's gone off the deep, end
there were some very interesting stuff that was said By
Scott bessett in terms of the tariffs essentially being used

(01:38:49):
as a tool to get to a zero zero. Now
the way we're doing IT i have issue. With and
one of the things That i'm interested to see is
if out of these, multiple, many many different separate trade
deals they're going to, happen you, know BETWEEN us And
madagascar AND us and, whatever are they going to require

(01:39:10):
that those nations levy tariffs On, China because if, not
we've lost that trade war With, china at least in
the short, term Because china is positioning themselves as, essentially
here's the double middle Finger, trump we're not, caving we're not,
moving and they'll just. Inflate they'll they'll keep pumping stimulus
money into their economy because they artificially manipulate their. Currency

(01:39:31):
it's just we're in. It these are very interesting times
we're living.

Speaker 8 (01:39:34):
In it's.

Speaker 13 (01:39:34):
Fascinating like if, again if economics is a hobby for,
you it's certainly fascinating from the lab, perspective probably not
as fascinating from your retirement.

Speaker 5 (01:39:41):
Perspective one of the things That scott besn't said in
that interview THAT i thought was super interesting was he
pointed out he, said, look eighty eight percent of the
stock market is owned by you, know or, yeah eighty
eight percent of the stock market is owned by the
top like whatever, percent like ten percent sort of, yes,
yeah and then the, bottom you, know so half or.
Whatever if the country owns like twelve, Percent so when

(01:40:03):
the market, falls Main street doesn't necessarily feel. It and
his point, is, look we've been focused On Wall street
when we want to re engineer the economy to focus
more On Main. Street which is a great talking, point
but maybe a. Term when you go To walmart and
that piece of garbage From china that was a dollar
now cost three, dollars and you're already on the edge

(01:40:26):
of the, economy that is a really tough. Thing so
it's gonna the next six months are gonna be, crazy.

Speaker 13 (01:40:33):
Right the thing That SCOTT i think forgets in that
talking point is that the top one percent own well
over fifty percent of the wealth in the country.

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
Too, Yeah so the. Idea it impacts people on main street.

Speaker 13 (01:40:43):
More maybe the raw dollar amount is lower per, person
but the percentages hurt people who are living on the margins.

Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
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