04-14-25 FULL SHOW - A Rural Colorado Coalition, And Men Like Younger Women

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:09):
Going to talk about, because we have a lot of
stuff to talk about on the blog. But I was
driving in and I heard the eleven thirty News where
they were mentioning in the news that during a meeting
in the White House today President Buqueley of El Salvador
flatly said that he is not going to return a

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Brego Garcia. And Abrego Garcia is the man who had
been living legally in the United States for fifteen years
in Baltimore, Maryland when he was swept up and simultaneous just.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Deported to El Salvador.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
To this megaprison that the president the totalitarian president of
El Salvador. But wait for it, y'all, because right now
he's a benevolent dictator in that he has had had sweeping,
sweeping masses of arrests of gang members and El Salvador
has gone from the most crime riddled place in our

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hemisphere to being a low risk according to the State.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Department Travel Advisory in three years.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
And you know that if it's the most from that
is the people of El Salvador who are not criminals.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Now, did he violate what we would say would.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Be what should be protected norms? Absolutely Would I want
anyone to do the same thing here in the United States,
Absolutely not. But I also wasn't getting shot at on
a regular basis, So the people of El Salvador haven't
enthusiastically supported him. But that being said, currently he is
a benevolent dictator. Do I see it remaining that way?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
It never does.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
They never get nicer, They never, they never get nicer.
So we're at the beginning of this arc, this story arc,
and we'll see what happens next in L.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Salvador.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
But right now, what's happening in El Salvador is they've
agreed to take all of these criminal u this is
what we were told, criminal illegal immigrants and take them
to this prison where it's full of L. Salvador and
gang members. They are extremely tough prisons. They are not
like you know, Martha Stewart did not go here kind
of thing right.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
And so.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Accidentally, Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported a guy who was
not necessarily doing a single thing wrong. He was here legally,
he had not broken any laws, he didn't have a
criminal record, and they grabbed him and sent him to
El Salvador. Okay, great, we made a mistake. Let's just

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fix the mistake. We sent this guy out without due
process that would have surely caught that he wasn't any
of these things that he was just accused of before
we sent him to El Salvador.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
So really it should be like a.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Phone called El Salvador, Hey, sorry about that. A guy
that we sent you is actually not supposed to be there,
and then the president of El Salvador could say, hey, okay, great,
come get the guy.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
No big woop, no harm, no.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Foul, will continue to take your criminals, right, Except that's
not what happened today. The President of l Salvador basically
was like, nope, I'm not going to send him back,
and he said that the Trump administration does not have
the power to return him to the United States. And

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then there's all this this this sort of indignant, self
righteous sort of posturing by people in the Trump administration
trying to act like it's absurd that we would.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Ask for this guy back.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Now, this guy originally immigrated from El Salvador. He sought
asylum and was granted a sign one in the United
States because he and his family stood the risk of
being murdered if they sent back.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Oh excuse me.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Murdered by whom murdered by the gangs that are currently
in the prison where this guy is to.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
That's a little detail that we should have put in there.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
And now we have the president of El Salvador essentially saying, no,
you don't have any right to tell me to send
him back. As a matter of fact, he said, the
question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into
the United States? He says about this guy who has
asylum in the United States from l Salvador.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Now, guys, I.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Am all for deporting criminals who are here, who are
causing problems, who are creating havoc. And then after we
do that, we can figure out what we're going to
do with the people whose only crime is breaking into
the country, right who just came here and have been
doing everything basically the right way. But right now, we've

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got to make sure that the people that we are
deporting are indeed people who we should be deporting. And
if you're gonna blow anything like this off and act like, well,
you know it's not.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Well, one out of all these one got through.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
One is too many. This is why we have checks
and balances. This is why there are procedures that need
to be followed. And it doesn't mean that the procedures
can be abused to keep people here who don't deserve
to be here. But this is beyond the pale. I mean,
is this guy even alive?

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Part of me thinks this is just an elaborate scheme
for the President of Al Salvador to fall on his
sword in a way by saying no, We're not going
to give this guy back. It makes him look like
a tough guy at home, like he stood up to
the United States of America. But the reality is, is
this guy even alive? And he ended up in a
prison in El Salvador even though he was here legally,

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he was doing everything right.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
This should be terrifying. This should be really this is
like Soviet Union level stuff. You guys, you can support
deporting criminals and still be appalled by this story.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
This story is terrible. Head should have rolled for this story.
We sent a guy who was here in the United.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
States to a camp full of the people.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
That he ran away from as a refugee, and now
this president is like, yeah, I'm not giving him back.
Listen to this from Secretary of State Mark Rubio. Oh no,
I'm sorry. This is Chief of Staff Stephen Miller. He
said he's a citizen of l Salvador. So it's very
arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would

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even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens.
What good Lord, I mean, come on, you guys. There
was no order deportation. The guy was here legally, and
yet he ends up in an ill Salvador in prison.
That that should be very concerning to people. It really should.

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And I fully expect the people who have my entire
life said that they were the law and order party
to be at the front of making sure that people
are getting due process, not abusing the system again, begainning
due process, and this guy clearly didn't anyway.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
So let's do the blog.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Jumped right in a lot of the Texters, you are
grossly misrepresenting the El Salvadoran from Maryland.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Do your homework for once.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
The reality is there was no deportioned deportation order for him, period.
He was here in the country legally, period, and they
shipped him off to an Il Salvador in prison, and
anything beyond that is just noise.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
So let's do the blog. Mandy'sblog dot com. That's Mandy's blog.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
When you get there, that's gonna be the Kawa page
for Mandy Connell, and then you look for latest posts,
and then you look for a headline that says, for
fourteen twenty five blog a rural Colorado coalition and men
like younger women, And then you click on that, and
here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
I didn't go with someone in office South American all
with ships and clipments and say that's going to press
Flint today on the.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Blog, there's a new coalition in the legislature, men like
younger women, e mentally ill man tries to kill a
governor Colorado says no to Trump's DEI education order.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
How did Colorado's budget turn out?

Speaker 4 (09:37):
China is doing more than tariffs to American goods. Who
will medicate cut it cuts hit? Why is this threat
not front page news? Caldera is excited about Sundance Funny.
How town halls are interesting again? Another fee to allegedly
save us money codifying anti oil and gas into school standards.

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Bill Mahmer had dinner with Donald Trump. A stupid campfire
sets a fire in Douglas County. AI knows we're lazy
enough to hand over the world. Being married increases your
chance of dementia. This is all chick Blue Origin flight
seems weird to me. Illegals are being told to self
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Speaker 5 (10:35):
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Speaker 4 (10:39):
Those those were the headlines on the blog that was
a lot today, but as you can see, totally worth
visiting Mandy's blog dot com. I'm just saying throwing that
out there.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Anyway.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
You don't like the new Rockies City connect jerseys, Uh no,
I just said there were something well.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
That kind of made me think that maybe like them. Well,
they are something grant, there's something so much more than
the old ones.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
They are very bold, as are all. Have you seen
like a lot of the City Connect They're very I
mean I kind of feel like, you know, fashion is cyclical, okay,
so what's old is new again? I kind of feel
like we're coming back into like the nineteen eighties, Neon phase.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Es, early nineties. I'm here for it, me too.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Okay, everybody looks good at Neon. The world is a
brighter and better place when everybody is wearing a varying
shade of Neon polo. Okay, let's just all do it again.
We'll look like the world's happiest charter school.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yes, anyway, all right, all right, all right, anyway, let's
talk about some of the stuff we have coming up.
I've got very excited.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's I don't know if this is one of those
things where it's about time. It's not surprising. I think
would be a better way to say that the Colorado
State Legislator legislature is not necessarily paying attention to the
rural parts of the state with the greatest clarity. And
now there's a Colorado State Legislative Rural Caucus, and I've
got one of the members coming up, Representative Dusty Johnson,

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coming up at one to talk about it. And just
as I was driving in, I added, ed Prather is
coming on the show today. There were some articles that
have come out in the last week or so about
Denver's real estate market that had been a little bit
interesting and kind of alarming in terms of what the
market is doing.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
And as I like to say, even if you're not
thinking of selling your house, you should know what the
real estate market is doing to your biggest asset.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Okay, you should definitely know that. So we're going to
talk to Ed at two thirty, just gonna get a
snapshot of what is happening in the real estate market
now over the weekend, this story is terrible, but the
coverage of this story has been very interesting. And here's why.
Over the weekend, a man named something Balmber, what's his

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first name?

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Something something Bomber.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
He set the governor's mansion in Pennsylvania on fire when
the governor and his family were home in the governor's mansion.
And Cody Bomber is this guy's name. Man, what you
look at the pictures and you know that the elevator
isn't going all the way up to the top. So
the first thing I see over the weekend is that

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he has social media postings that are against Joe Biden.
So I was like, okay, here we go off to
the races. But I figured I would just settle in
and wait. And it has come to light that this
guy was most likely kind of an anti or an
Antifa type that didn't think that Joe Biden went far

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enough to the left kind of guy. But he was
also mentally ill. And I believe he was mentally ill
because his mother, and reached for comment, said her son
is mentally ill and he went off as medication. Christy
Baumer says she tried to get her son picked up
last week and reached out to four different police departments

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but couldn't get anybody to help. So he was mentally ill,
went off his meds and this is what happened.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
This is the scariest thing about mental illness, and it's
the notion that medication solves everything, because more often than not,
a mentally ill person will go on medication and will
give them so much more clarity. But it also has
side effects, right, so after a long enough period of clarity,
they believe they are cured, and so they will stop

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taking their medication because they believe that they don't have
that problem anymore, and the side effects of the medication
sometimes are not insignificant, and then the whole cycle starts
over again. But unfortunately, when you have an adult in
your family who is mentally ill. There's very little you
can do at that point after they turn eighteen. And
this is a where the balance of decision making about

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someone's freedom gets really difficult, because I believe that people
should have the right to fail right. I believe that
people should have the right to make incredibly bad choices,
but they should have to suffer those consequences. What I
struggle with is that when you have a person who
is so disconnected from reality that it's impossible to argue

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that they could make a rational decision for their own
well being. And if you've never been around a person
who is completely disconnected from reality, it's a really interesting experience.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
And I have that with my late grandmother.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
She would be talking to me and then in the
middle of a sentence, turn and say stop, I'm trying
to listen to her to no one, but she would
just it and she was She would say things with
such conviction and clarity that were clearly insane, and you
just kind of have to go with it to a
certain extent because you realize nothing you can say, there's

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no rationalizing with that person. They can't comprehend what you're
saying that would bring them back to reality. I mean,
it's just there's something missing in that process. And so
when I see this and it's like, here we go.
We have this man who, though mentally ill, made that choice.
I'm probably fixed. I'm gonna go off my medication, and

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then he's gonna go. He's gonna be in prison and
for the rest of his life unless he has proven
to be mentally ill, which I hope they can pull
that off.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
I really do. I hope they can pull that off.
So terrible story.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
I feel terrible for the governor and his family, how
terrifying that must have been. I feel terrible for this
guy and his mom because there's no help out there,
because we haven't decided how to treat someone who has
become detached from reality, and currently we still give them
the same amount of autonomy until they commit a crime.

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And it's just a I don't have the right ethical
answer for that. I mean, my right gut check answer is,
how can you even suggest that a person who can't
tether themselves to reality be able to make good decisions
based in reality.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
It's just really, really kind of crazy. So anyway, that
is on the blog as well today. That's really all I'm.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Going to say about that story except this. Another aspect
of this story that I found fascinating was the amount
of information we have about this guy who tried to
burn down the Pennsylvania governor's mansion with the governor in it,
and the guy who shot Donald Trump in twenty four hours.

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We knew everything about this guy everything, and yet how
much do we know about that kid who managed to
get on the roof at a Trump rally and shoot
at the President. I mean, it's a fascinating look at
the priority differences of the media, because don't you think
if the media really cared about that guy, they could

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have found out a lot more than they found out
up to this point. I'm just saying it would be
nice if everybody was consistent. But that's not where we are,
not at all. When we get back, there's so much
stuff on the blog today, but I want to kind
of start with a quick overview when we get back
of Colorado's budget. And when I say quick, I mean

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like a minute and a half. But if you wonder
why everything is so expensive in Colorado, and you wonder
why there's so many new taxes and fees, when you
hear the numbers, the change in six years. You're going
to be shocked considering the result the return on our
investment that we actually get out of the state of Colorado.

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How's your drive in? How are those roadways doing? How
are you folks in the rural areas with your roads doing.
Oh but they make up for in public say, oh wait,
never mind, I'll be back this last legislative session.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Remember we just saw breathless story after breathless story about
Colorado having a budget shortfall and oh mg, this is
a disaster. Well, they managed to shave.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
They just they put their they put their little pencils.
You know, they've got their little racers going on the budget.
They managed to shave over a billion dollars. Well, and
we're supposed to be grateful, but the reality is is
that the size of the budget has exploded in six years.

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The budget has gone from twenty three billion to forty
five billion, and that's ten times the size of population,
which Taper was supposed to prevent that from happening forever.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
And here we are a way to think about.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Whether or not you think you're getting a good enough
return on your investment. The roads situation and the worst
part of the road situation is that we have at
the Department of Transportation and in the Governor's mansion people
who are very dedicated to spending money on transportation as
long as it's not on roads. Because they are employing

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a strategy, and I believe they think it's going to
be successful of just letting the roads degrade until everyone
begs for more mass transit or public transportation options.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
It's not going to work for me.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
I've already said I'll consider it when I know that
the governor only uses public transportation to get around. He
can have a little team of bodyguards. I'm sure they
can shield him from the people smoking meth on the
light rail. It'll be fine, It'll be fine. So the
frustrating part about this is that next year we're supposed

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to face an even bigger shortfall. But did they do
anything about the structure that has been created over the
last six years, which has grown the size of government considerably.
There's no actually under addressing the underlying cause, which is
they have made government bigger, and government doesn't make a product,

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so they have to get money from somewhere and they
can't print it, so eventually it has.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
To come out of our pockets.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Now, I have a couple of stories on the blog
today that are kind of insane when you get right
down to it. But recently there was a meeting about
some insurance funds which do various things. The reinsurance program
here in Colorado that is levied on premiums for about

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three hundred thousand people in the individual market. It also
it also pays for a program called Omni Salute, which
enrolls about twelve thousand people a year. Now those people
happen to be people who are in the country illegally, Okay,
So the reinsurance program helps people, mostly in the Western Slope,

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who would be facing insurance premiums so high no one
could afford to have insurance. This reinsurance program sort of
backs up any big claims that have to be paid,
so premiums can come down in those areas. Now, not
everybody who lives in those areas full time. Most people
are not rich. So this is what we've done. We
put a tax on everybody's premiums in the medium and

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small market to pay for this. And when faced with
the prospect of not having enough money to fund both
of these programs, Kevin mcfatridge of the Colorado Association of
Health Plans said at a recent meeting, Commissioner Conway repeatedly

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expressed frustration and anger over HB twenty five, twelve ninety seven,
stating multiple times that he's mad. He emphasized that he
tried to be friendly with the original proposal, but is
now prepared to get ugly and pursue a more aggressive
approach if the bill does not pass. And one of
the things he said he might do is take money
out of the program that helps defray the premium costs

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of those mostly in the Western Slope and give it
to the program that funds illegal immigrants instead.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
And you're like, what, what are we even talking about
right now? What is happening? Where is that even? How
is that even being uttered?

Speaker 7 (23:43):
Let alone?

Speaker 5 (23:43):
I mean, was he just.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Making a big threat so he could I don't know,
flex on somebody, I don't know, But the fact that
he would even say that for one minute, because in
a world where things made sense, you would.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Look at the people who are your.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Tax paying base of citizens that are here legally, whether
they were born here or not.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
If they're here legally.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
They're the people that are paying A vast majority of
the taxes. They are the people that are in the communities.
They are the people that you should be helping if
you're going to help in this way, and then you're
gonna say, Nope, we're gonna give it to the illegal
immigrants instead. If you want to turn people against illegal immigrants.
And I'm not anti the human beings who have come
here illegally, I am anti the way they are here

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and very much believe that they should have gone through
the legal process, which is horrible as well and needs
to be fixed. I mean, why would you even threaten
that because a lot of those people, they may be
sympathetic now, but as soon as you say sorry, we
can't help you anymore because we've taken that money and
we've given it to illegal immigrants, that that changes a

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tone of things very very quickly. I mean, maybe that's
maybe that's a strategy. I don't know, but some of
the stuff that's happening right now is just crazy. But
remember this, We're about to have a governor's race. It's
already started. As a matter of fact, not only has
Michael Bennett jumped in, Phil Wiser's already announced. There is

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a younger guy that I'm going to be talking to
hopefully in the next few weeks. Two has jumped in,
Greg Lopez jumped in. The governor's race is on. It's
already on. So one of the things that I'm going
to ask every single candidate is what do you think
about our our budget currently? Do you worry about making

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government so much bigger knowing that it has to be
supported by the citizens of Colorado. Right It's not like
the government employees are funding their retirements by having baked sales.
We have to pick up more than half of that cost.
So it's very very interesting to me to hear the
kind of poor thing that's going on. And Michael Bennett

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has already said, I think Tabor is a problem. Can
you guys imagine how big government would be right now
if we didn't have tabor. Can you imagine the explosion
of growth that we would have had using one time
COVID dollars to create ongoing expenses if the legislature had

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just been able to raise our taxes without asking our permission.
Tabor is a godsend in this situation. Taber isn't the problem.
Tabor is the salvation. And now they're going to sue
over the legality of Tabor in another effort to overturn it,
and yet voters are just going to ignore that.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
None of the news media that they'll go on will ask.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Them to go on record about that issue, because I mean,
it's taper is extremely popular.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
I can't wait to see.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
It's going to be very interesting to see how the coverage,
the news coverage of Tabor even.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
As they go through this lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
I'm interested to see if it shifts to be anti Tabor,
whereas now it's pretty neutral. When you see him talk
about the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights, they'll say, oh, the
Democrats say that it limits the state. That's exactly what
it does one percent. That's what it was designed to
do on purpose, and it's been very effective.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I'm I'm I'm glad I'm still not done with this
legislative session because so much stuff has passed.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
That is just wildly egregious, and.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I think a vast majority of people in Colorado are
not paying attention, and unfortunately they will not hold the
people responsible for some of the stuff that is just
absolutely disastrous responsible because we're just not paying attention to
what actually happens We're paying attention to glossy mailers and
campaign ads, but we're not saying what exactly did you
do to me in this last legislative session, which is

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where we all need to start. Okay, here we go.
Let's take a very very quick time out. And I
have so many studies that are not I mean stories
today that are not like things that we're going to
spend a lot of time on. But one of them
is speaking of the way media covers things. Have you
noticed since Trump got back in office that our news

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media is very, very very very interested on if whether
or not Republican members of Congress are going to have
town halls again? I mean, suddenly, this is like the
most interesting story ever. Well, what was it like when
Joe Biden was president? Cory Gaines looked into it. We'll
talk about it next. Corey Gaines does a really nice

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job sort of following the news media.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
And I tell people this all the time.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
If you spend any time listening to any news media outlet,
you should be able to articulate their bias.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
And it's not that they're all, you know, trying and
so it's harder than others which is always nice when
you find those outlets, but everybody has their own viewpoint
and it does leak through most of the time in
some way.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
That being said, he has done.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
A column about newly elected Colorado Congressman Gabe Evans, who's
been the subject of much progressive media scrutiny lately, particularly
around town halls.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Is he going to do them? Really?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Do them in person? How else can he respond to
criticism from Democrats? Which mirrors earlier town hall capers involving
fellow Republicans Mike Kaufman and Corey Gardner.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
Now he focused here on.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
The reporting on it, which I'll get to in just
a second, but I want to talk to you about
what's happening at Republican town halls. When they are in
Republican districts, like solidly Republican districts, they go like this.
The constituents show up, the Republican member of Congress shows up.
The constituents may ask points and difficult questions, but for

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the most part they sit and listen. And by the way,
this isn't just Republicans. If it's all democratic, they go
the same way. This is why the media is focused
like a laser on Representative gave Evans because his seat
will be in play for a long time to come,
I hope, because I think if you could say that

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seat's not in play anymore, it's because the Democrats.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Have short up their base there. It's a tough, tough district,
so of course they.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Want Representative Gave Evans to come back and get yelled
at by Democrats, which is what happens when there is
a town hall in a mixed district. Now this is
not to say that members of Congress should not come
home in a mixed district and face their constituents. Oh no,
this is completely on the other foot, meaning if you

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want to be able to hold your Member of Congress
accountable in a town hall fashion, then you need to
do it in the same way that I tell you
guys all the time. If you're gonna write an email,
if you're gonna write a letter, be respectful, because if
you're just showing up at you know, a a town
hall so you can scream and yell, you lie and whatever,

(31:17):
and get dragged out by cops, there's absolutely nothing productive
except the little ego stroke that it gives you when
you get dragged out.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
So you can tell all your homies. Yeah, I totally
yelled liar, and then they dragged me out of their
resist or whatever you're gonna do. Then you're part of
is much a part of a problem. The problem as
members of Congress that won't come back to their districts
into a town hall, right, Why would you come.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Back if you know that the people that disagree with
you aren't there to really get answers. They're just there
to scream and shout and make a scene and make
you uncomfortable enough that hopefully you will leave so then
they can claim victory. It doesn't make any sense. It
doesn't make any sense when it happens. Ever, and yet
here we are having a discussion about how it's wrong. Well,

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depending on your perspective in any case.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Cory Gaines went and did some significant digging, significant digging
and found various outlets like Colorado Public Radio, the Colorado's Son,
Colorado Politics, and the Denver Post were mostly oddly uncurious
about town halls under the last administration, So weird. Corey

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Gaines then also did a search of Facebook and Twitter
of Evans's Democratic predecessor, Yadra Caraveo, as well as looking
at her official web page for the phrase town hall,
town meeting, and meet during her tenure in Congress, only
to find out that there were no mentions of a
town hall at all. So why is there so much interest?

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I mean, I'm just curious, cause wouldn't it been interesting
if Yadi Caraveo had come back to her district to
answer questions about the fitness of the president during the
last administration. That would have been fun. You'd think that
would be something. But see, they were all ignoring the
condition of the president. I forgot my bad. Why am
even asking that? Okay, when we get back, I am

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super excited to have Representative Dusty Johnson on to talk
about the Colorado State Legislative Rural Caucus. We're going to
do that next And in the meantime, Mandy, my wife,
does regional hotel sales and is on the phone all day.
She's beginning to have issues with her voice and current
doctor is not helping. Can you remind me who it

(33:41):
was that helped you and Ross? That would be doctor
David Opperman, Doctor David Opperman, Colorado Voice Clinic dot Com.
I didn't mean to read that text message, so I'm
going to read the one I actually meant to read,
and it's this Mandy on the SB three gun bill.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
I think the timing was just right.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
And the twenty twenty sixth election for our state representative happens,
the outrage will have died down. There is an overwhelming
number of Blue voters, and there's enough apathy or ignorance
to keep our current legislators. They will stay in power
and not be voted out. And that, my friends, is
why I continue to tell you everything that they're doing
to you as often as I can.

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Speaker 4 (34:47):
Welcome Bluncle Dove Good into the second hour of the show.
And oh boy, there's interesting things happening right now in
the Colorado legislature. And I'm being kind when I use
the word interesting. And one of the things that we
have seen can get exponentially worse, I think in my
time here is the urban rural divide.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
And it seems like.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
What used to be disagreements on how money was sort
of divided now seems to be the urban corridor doesn't
really want to hear from the rural corridor at all.
And joining me now Representative Dusty Johnson to talk about
one way to sort of push back on that, and
that is a new legislative Caucus. Representative Johnson, Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 9 (35:26):
First of all, Hi, thank you Mandy for having me.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
So tell me about the new rural coalition that has
been formed in the legislature.

Speaker 9 (35:37):
Yes, and you hit it spot on.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
There's a huge urban rural divide, and we know our
voices are aut numbered being from rural communities just because
less population means, you know, less amount of people in
a district that have a representation. So the Rural Caucus
is a joint chamber, bipartisan effect. There's seventeen of us
on it, so seventeen out of one hundred, we have

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seven teen percent of the voice.

Speaker 9 (36:01):
Just that this caucus alone, just to stand.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
Unified in what rural Colorado needs and making sure we
are doing this together, just because you know, when you're
in rural Colorado, we're very good at being independent. We're
very good at being firm and what we need. But
that doesn't work when Eastern plains, Western slope aren't working
together because we already have a splintered voice. So by
adding it, you know, coming together at the table for

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the Rural Caucus, we're making our voice stronger just in
hopes that we can have our colleagues from the Metro
area urban areas listen to it. And then also part
of this caucus is an educational outreach that we are
hoping to then help bridge the divide by saying, hey,
come look at our communities so you can see what
we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Well, not only that, I mean you would think and
I grew up in a small town. I grew up
in a rural kind of community, and there was a
much greater sense of civic involvement.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Now that was also a long time ago. I understand that.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
But it has been my experience that historically, I think
that rural people tend to be more civic minded, and
yet there's a lot of people in the rural areas
that don't vote. And that is like, well, you've already
got a representation issue in terms of the numbers that
you have. The last thing you need is people sitting
on the sidelines. Is that something that this is going
to address.

Speaker 9 (37:16):
Yeah, we're very much hoping.

Speaker 10 (37:17):
I mean, it gives hope because when you're used to
not being listened all the time, sometimes the thought is
our vote doesn't matter.

Speaker 9 (37:23):
Why are we doing it right?

Speaker 10 (37:24):
And this pushes back saying, hey, you're representatives and your
senators who you elected from rural communities are pushing back.
We're making sure we have a seat at the table,
but we need you also to back it. And when
we invite our colleagues to the communities, it does give
that hope, saying, look, we're doing things, but we do
need more numbers, so can you please show up to
the polls next time? Right?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
So, what are some of the biggest issues that you
guys feel like are either being overlooked by the current
legislature and that you'd like to see addressed in the
near future.

Speaker 10 (37:53):
And I will put this one to a good friend,
Senator Dylan Roberts, who is also on to give the
Senate perspective.

Speaker 9 (37:59):
And he's also more senior than I. He says, for
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Longer, I should have introduced you as well. Senator.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
I'm sorry I got I jumped in with Representative Johnson
and then just I'll just let him sit there and
wait to be asked, sorry about that.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
So centeraball, We're good. What are some of those issues
that you think are the most important.

Speaker 11 (38:17):
Yeah, there are some issues that are might be top
of mind more specific to rural Colorado, and therefore us
as rural legislators work on them more. But I think
what we hope to do with this caucus is focused
those issues for the entire legislature and talk about how
things like water impacts the whole state. It is top

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of mind for me and Representative Johnson and our constituents
in our rural districts every single day, you know, preserving
our water, making sure we have enough water for agriculture
and for outdoor recreation.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
And for folks on the front range.

Speaker 11 (38:49):
You know, they don't think about water as much because
you know, they turn on the they turn on the
faucet or the shower and water comes out and that's
about it. But we know that if we don't make
the right decisions here at the capital about our water
resource is it could impact the whole state. So I
think that is first and foremost one of the biggest
priorities that we will talk about as a caucus. We
also need to talk about when we pass statewide policy

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at the Capitol. How does that impact smaller towns? How
does that impact rural and frontier areas where they may
be good intention and they may be coming from ideas
that are more specific to urban areas or suburbs, could
have an unintended negative consequence on the rural areas. And
so that's what our hope is is to organize as
a group of rural legislators and then effectively go tell

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that story to our colleagues. And that's why this is
a bipartisan caucus too, is because you know, I'm a Democrat,
Repreisdent Johnson's a Republican. We can work together to determine
what our caucus feels is important as a real caucus
and then go talk to our respective parties about why
they need to listen to us as royal colleagues.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Does it give your rural bills or legislative issues more
gravitas when you say, look, we're running this bill and
it's got seventeen coastponds, you know that sort of span
both parties. Do you think that's going to be more
helpful in getting these bills across the finish line?

Speaker 9 (40:08):
Yeah, I definitely think it's going to be we have.
So no one knows.

Speaker 10 (40:13):
Everything in this building, and there are definitely those faces,
those leaders that people look to, saying while if they
support it both sides of the eye liberal chambers, they're
more and more inclined to because we trust their judgment
on rule or water or agricultural topics. So by having
a coalition of seventeen and we're not saying all seventeen
always have to back it, but you know, more times
than not, rule does stand together. So having that coalition

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the name saying we'll go talk to so and so
if they're on your side of the party or in
your chamber, it just helps bridge that divide even more
and crosses the aisle saying well, this is a bipartisan issue.

Speaker 9 (40:45):
We're seeing it on the West slope, we're seeing it
on the eastern plains. It just gives that more respect
aspect and even more of.

Speaker 10 (40:53):
I don't know what you'd say, but it gives that,
you know more saying, hey, look at them, they're doing
it and you respect how they vote, So look at them.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Senator Roberts, how many members do you have on the
Senate side.

Speaker 11 (41:05):
Yeah, so we have, off the top of my head,
we have at least seven senators and Rep. Johnson can
correct me if I'm wrong, But we in both parties,
and we're you know, obviously a smaller chamber than the House,
so there's there's a few of us in general, but
every Senator that has parts of a rural district or
entirely a royal district is a part of this caucus

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in both parties.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
I was going to ask you if there were any holdouts.
Have you had anybody that was like, no, I'm not
going to join you, even though those are the people
that I represent.

Speaker 11 (41:37):
I didn't encounter any in the Senate. I don't know
if you did in the in the House.

Speaker 9 (41:40):
Rep Johnson, I did not in the House either. They
are very much inclined to get on.

Speaker 10 (41:45):
Even if most of their district might be urban and
they have some rural we still saw them get onto
this caucus saying we want to.

Speaker 9 (41:50):
Make sure we're you know, being a voice for.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
All of our area.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Are you guys working on actually writing legislation as a
caucus or is this going to be Uh? Somebody brings
a bill fully that they feel might be appropriate for
others on the caucus to get behind, and approaches it
from that way, or maybe even a combination of both.

Speaker 11 (42:09):
Yeah, I think it's going to be a combination of
all of those things. You know, we're obviously coming up
on the end of the legislative session in just about
three weeks, so we're probably past the stage of introducing
legislation for this year. But over the course of the
summer in the fall, as we prepare for twenty twenty six,
I imagine those conversations will happen. But we can also
look at existing legislation that some of our colleagues have

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brought and take a position as a real caucus or
importantly to be able to comment on legislation and maybe
oppose something or ask for amendments for something on bills
that are already in the system, so that to better
address rural concerns that might be coming up.

Speaker 10 (42:49):
I would even say, I mean, we just saw this
last week with the House side of the Caucus of
keeping our rural Behavioral Health after program.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
We came to the table saying, this is.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
Our rural need through the budgeting week that we just
had please do not repeal this program, and we explained why.
A good portion of the members on this caucus stood
up saying this is why we need it for our community.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
Please don't cut this.

Speaker 10 (43:13):
And we saw overwhelmingly a vote of fifty three to
ten that we kept this program because of those voices
coming together from all areas of rural across the state.
So it even helps with the budgeting and making sure
that we are getting the resources that we need.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Well, you know, I've long thought that this was probably
long overdue, and how who's started this? Who said, look,
we've got to get ourselves together to represent our rural constituency,
so that.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
Would be I started bugging some people on the House side,
and I did end up bugging Senator Dylan Roberts and
Senator Rod Pelton and the other co chair in the Senate, saying,
we've had groups of breakfasts with rural legislators who they'd
kind of come around and talk just to events and
tell war stories on the chamber, but we haven't really
had a unified voice, so this would be something that
would be great for us all to come together and

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saying they can have I mean, we have a caucus
for anything under this.

Speaker 9 (44:03):
Bull lan, but we didn't have rural caucus.

Speaker 10 (44:05):
So there was a huge need for it, and I'm
glad that all the colleagues came together, all seventeen of us,
and said, yeah, we want this to be something that's official.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Senator Roberts, oh, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
Oh.

Speaker 11 (44:15):
And for me, I was just so I'm from the
Western Slope and represent the mountains in northwest Colorado, and
as Western Slope legislators, we had always kind of had
an informal caucus of Democrats and Republicans, but if you're
from the Western Slope, we'd like to work on issues together.
But I'm really excited about this because we're combining the
Western Slope rural with the Eastern Plains rural and joining forces.

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You know, we might have some differences even amongst our caucus,
because what's important the Western Slope might not be important
to the Eastern Plains or vice versa. But I think
more times than not we'll find agreement. And I think
it's important that we've united the Western Slope with the
Eastern Plains in this caucus.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I was going to ask you, Senator, are there topics
that you guys have already kind of said, you know what,
we'll just not bring that one up just yet. Okay,
we you are there areas where you're like, you know, we're.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Not ready to cross that bridge just yet. So I
mean you kind of alluded to that in your answer.

Speaker 11 (45:09):
Yeah, there might be some geographical battles or some rivals
that play out, rivalries that play out, you know, I think,
you know, there might be some disagreements. You know, we
it is a group of Democrats and Republicans, and I
think in total we're all some of the more moderate
folks in the building anyway, in both parties. But there
might be some issues where, you know, just we it

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wouldn't be worth it to bring it up because we
might divide along party lines. But I think almost certainly
nine times out of ten, we're going to be united
on things.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
I think it's definitely gonna make you guys more effective.
And I do think that, you know, it's it's fairly
common in a state where agriculture as is important, and
yet you have these pockets of urbanization that are very,
very powerful just because of the sheer numbers that are
in them. So I don't think this is a Colorado
problem as much. It is a problem that's probably being
played out in a lot of different states. And how

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to divide that pot of money to make sure that
the roads in rural Colorado get taken care of. Good news, though, guys,
they don't take care of them here either, So on
the roads front, we're all equal. So you know, we
got that starting point. But I think it's going to
be very good for rural Coloraden's to have a more
unified voice and have a little more power behind that.
So hats off to both of you, Representative Dusty Johnson

(46:21):
and represent excuse me, Senator Dylan Roberts for coming together
on this.

Speaker 9 (46:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (46:29):
And I would just like the point I mean, because
we have such a diverse state. All four of us
CO chairs represent a different corner of the states. Well,
lets make sure Northeast, which represented southeast, Northwest, Southwest, to
make sure that we are making our roural caucus as
holistically of the state needs is. Because you know, my
rural areas out in House District sixty three are vastly
different than Senator Roberts district.

Speaker 9 (46:51):
But again we understand.

Speaker 10 (46:52):
The agriculture of the water, even the tourism side of it,
so we can usually find that as a common denominator
to stand up as a strong voice together.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
All right, thank you, So much for making time for
me today. Thank you all right. That is Representative Dusty
Johnson and Senator Dylan Roberts.

Speaker 12 (47:09):
I think that's gonna be a good thing.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
You know, I always I always feel bad that urban
or excuse me, rural people often felt forgotten. And it's
not just them, you know, a figment of their imagination.
It really isn't because ultimately you can look at spending
and look at priorities and see where money is going
and where money is not going, and you can, I

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mean reasonably understand the argument that areas with more people
probably need more. You know of our tax dollars that
we have collectively decided to sprint around.

Speaker 12 (47:44):
So good for them.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
I hope that helps. I hope it brings more urban
issues into the light. Now, uh, Grant, how old is
your lovely bride compared to you? Three years younger, three
years younger?

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Look at you live in the stereotype I'm about to
share with you that you didn't even know about.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
I love some younger women.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Well you're not alone. I gotta think Ron for sending
me this article. It came out at the end of January,
but I missed it. And from Psychology Today psychology. Today
he talked about a new study in the journals Personal Relationships.
It investigated the preferred age gaps for men and women

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at the start of a new romantic relationship. So they
studied couples from thirty. They studied almost thirty six thousand
couples collected across twenty eight European countries in Israel.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
So what did they find out?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Now?

Speaker 4 (48:41):
I just want you to take this just for a
moment and think about this for one second. What do
you think they found out about men and the age
of the women they prefer dating. What do you think, Grant,
Just take a wild guess.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
I'm gonna guess that they like younger women. Correct, Grant. Correct.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
If men are twenty five years old, they want a
twenty two year old, honey.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
That's what they want. And it goes up from there,
but not by much. At thirty they.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Want someone twenty six. At forty, they want someone thirty four.
At fifty they want.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Someone forty two. At sixty they want so many fifty.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
You see how the gap gets larger and larger as
the men get older. And I believe it was Matthew
McConaughey who said it best when he said, you know
what I like about high school girls.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
I keep getting older, but they stay the same. All right, alright,
all right, that was a paraphrase. I don't think that
was exactly right. I should have looked it up. I
didn't thin about it until just now.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
At age seventy, men would prefer a partner fifty eight
years old, twelve year difference, and at eighty they want
a partner who's sixty six years old, fourteen year difference. Literally,
nothing surprising about any of this. I would have been
shocked if it had been any different. But what about women, Well, Brant,

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what do you think do women like older younger men older?

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Yes and no? Oh when they're young.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
When they're young, When they're twenty five, they want a
guy who's twenty eight. When they're thirty, they want a
guy who's thirty two and a half. Oddly specific, but
here we are oddly Wait wait, but it gets even weirder.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Okay, so at thirty they want someone thirty.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Two and a half, but at forty they want someone
forty one.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
And a half.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
And I think that's because they're through their childbearing years.
Like most women at forty are not looking to have
another baby. Do not recommend having a baby at thirty
nine and eleven months. Do not recommend hard pass. There'll
be no follow up questions. At fifty, we want somebody
who's fifty point five years This is because we're looking
at old dudes, going, man, I don't know if I

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want to deal with that for the rest of my life.
Here's where it gets interesting. At age sixty they want
a man who's fifty nine and a half years old.
Now they're moving the needle in the other direction. At
seventy they want a partner who's sixty eight point five
years old. And at eighty they'll take a guy who's
two and a half years younger.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
I'm just two and a half I'd find this, but
you know what it is.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Men want someone to take care of them when they're old.
Women don't want to take care of you back. Women
are like I am done taking care of you, And statistically,
if you're two and a half years younger than I am,
will probably die closer to the same age. You know,
they're edge in their bets. I just I found this

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was kind of fascinating. But women are so predictable based
on biological clock. Right at twenty five, you want somebody
a little more mature, a little more established, somebody that
you know you can envision nesting and having children with.
At thirty, you want to make sure somebody's not too
old to be a great dad for the kids that
you still want to have. At forty, you're like, I'm
good that ship is sailed. And as you get older,

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the possibility of taking care of someone even older than
you is not very appealing. And by the way, I
am not disparaging taking care of your spouse and your
loved one as they age, and I fully expect to
be doing that for my husband, just as he is
going to be doing it for me. But if you're

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seventy years old and you're looking at date, I'm not
dating an eighty year old guy, because you know, chances are, statistically.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
You're not gonna have a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Of healthy lifespan left manby. This is very true for men, However,
I guarantee when all of us are older guys wanting
younger women. Were young, we all fantasized about having older women. Well,
now's your chance. Jump right in with both feet, sir, Mandy.
My wife is two years younger, married thirty two years,

(52:57):
she's still waiting for me to grow up.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
What's the difference between you and Chuck? Is the older
or younger?

Speaker 4 (53:02):
He is five years older than I am, and I
never really cared about that when we were younger, But
now I'm like, call Ley.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Five years now when I'm.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Thinking about not being able to retire for X amount
of years, and I'm like, well, how old will he
be then? This is why we travel so much now,
because by the time I retire, he's going to be
you know, I'm not saying he's ancient by any stretch
of the imagination, but he'll be less mobile than he
is now.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Andy.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
For guys, I don't think it has anything to do
about being taken care of.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
It has to do with sex. I'm sure that is
always part of it. For dudes. Let's be real. I
know who you people are. You know who you people are.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
But the reality is is that as you get older,
you still want somebody that can take care of you.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
And I know that from talking to old.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Men who were either widowed when they didn't think they
would ever be widowed, and all of a sudden they
were like, well, who's going to take care of me?
Now that literally was the words that out of their mouth.
Who's going to take care of me?

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Now?

Speaker 4 (54:03):
So it's there, definitely, Mandy. My wife is ten years older.
We should take a dirt dap about the same time.
I like your strategy, Mandy. I'm seventy one. My wife
is sixty two.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
She's ready to trade me in on two thirty five
and a half year olds. That from Steve.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
I you know what, Steve, You're not old, You're just classic,
that's all.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
You're classic. Anyway, My husband and I are the same age.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
I'm gonna die before him because I sure is heck
ain't gonna take care of them.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
That that is planning. That is planning, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
When I was a man in my thirties, I preferred
older women. I never got the appeal of young women. Yeah,
now that I'm an older woman, I agree with you
one hundred percent. Can we talk about this old woman
journey to space on the Blue Origin spacecraft? Did you
let me just ask you as a dude, you put

(55:04):
your dude hat on right now when you see the
sort of fufaraw about this twelve minute flight that was
all female of the Blue Origin spacecraft to the edge
of space.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
What do you think Grant just dude had on.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
I was shocked it was eleven minutes, and I thought
it was going to be a much bigger deal than
it was.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
It basically was, you know what this is.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
It was essentially the that ride at the fair where
they you know, they sit you in the chair and
they lock you in place, and then they they pull
the bungee cord up tighter, tighter, tighter, and then they
release you and you go oo into three. It was that,
only on a much bigger scale.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Uh, my wife watched it this morning and she's like, yeah,
it was only like ten minutes long, and I was like, wait,
the whole thing was ten minutes long.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
You know what was much more interesting is when the
guy jumped from space. That was fascinating. I mean I
watched every second of that.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
Yeah, and the most fascinating part to me.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
I don't know if you saw the videos circulating on
social media of Jeff Bezos banging on the capsule when
it came down and then he fell when he was
trying to circle around.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
No, just space planet right into the dirt. No, rich
dude should not do athletic things. Okay, we're not all
Mark Zuckerberg.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Oh, here's video of Gail King getting off and kissing
the ground. Gail, come on, suck it up, sister. Oh
they're all getting off and kissing the ground. It was
a terrifying eleven minutes of my life.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
I don't know how we made it. It was so tough.
I just why, why did they do this?

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Why is this a thing? And you know what the
answer is, because they can. Because Lauren Sanchez is about
to marry Jeff Bezos, the world's richest man, and he
was like, Lauren, sweetie, I don't know what to get
you for. I don't insert holiday here. And She's like,
you know what, I really like Jeffy. I imagine she

(57:00):
calls him Jeffy. You know what they love Jeffy. I'd
love to go to space. And Jeff's like, bye, Jimminy,
I can make that happen. And so she and four
or five of her closest people she had never met
before but decided to take space with her got to
go to space.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Yeah, how'd they select what women got to go?

Speaker 10 (57:19):
Like?

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Why is Katy Perry was an actual scientist? Which I'm
fine with a couple of them actual scientists. But Katy Perry,
she's a firework, you know, she came in like a firework.
So she was on there. Gail King, let's just say it. It
might have been a DEI situation. I got rid of that.
That was a Crusoe white and so Gail was on there.

(57:42):
So no, there was actually two African American women, one
of them is the scientist and Gail, so we got
that going for us. I mean, it just was such
a I don't know, it just felt very like a
look at me Instagram moment.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
You know.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Yeah, I just don't understand what they were accomplishing. I
guess that's my point.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
What was the purpose of this and why was it
so publicized when they weren't flying it? What's be real,
If they've been flying it, that would have been impressive.
And Lauren Sanchez is a licensed helicopter pilot, so she
is an experienced pilot.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
I just think it would have been a lot cooler
story if it would have been an all female group
of scientists that manned the ship and then did something
you know, scientific, and that.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
So played out and they would not look nearly as
cute as they all looked in their little unis.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Did you see their little skin.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Tight unis that they all wore together on their big
flight to space. I mean, do you think Katie Perry,
Like she gets back to Earth and she's in her
car going back to her hotel wherever that is, and
she just says to herself.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
What was that?

Speaker 12 (58:48):
Like?

Speaker 5 (58:48):
What?

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Cause?

Speaker 5 (58:50):
I gotta tell you I do that all the time.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
This job has afforded me opportunities to put me places
that I would have never.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Gotten to go otherwise. Right, So when those situations occur,
is like, what is going on? Do they know who
I am? And they still let me hear?

Speaker 6 (59:05):
So you're saying, if you would have definitely gone, wouldn't you?

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Would you put on a dress and become Grantina in
order to go.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
I'm not knocking him for going. I'm just trying to
figure out what was the I.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Mean if Okay, So let's just review for the Feminist.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
So you you managed to.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Snag a guy who was married at the time to
someone else, but you snag him and he's your fiance
now and he wants to make you happy. So you
get to go to space and you get to invite
some of your besties and go with it not exactly
the feminist tale of you know, empowerment that we're all
looking for, and.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
That's kind of how they're trying to pitch it. I think,
you know what. That's why it bothers me.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
They're trying to make it into some kind of female
empowerment moment, when in reality, these people are all just
super rich and well connected. And Lauren Sanchez's fiance has
a space company.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
That's it. That's the whole thing. There's nothing else remarkable
about it, and yet it's being treated as the second
moon Walk, Mandy. Gail King was picked because it's like
sending your worry oh, your worry worp.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Mom into space. Mandy, are we about done with gender
first events? Why not a first all transgender space flight?
Oh just wait, I'm sure it's right around the corner.
Some transgender person is going to have to snag themselves
a billionaire with a space company first.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
But it's gonna happen, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
While I have no problem seeing Gail King shot into space,
I don't see why they're calling it a cruise since
they're really passengers and there's the rub right there. Text her, Mandy,
I was hoping they'd leave her up there along with
Katy Perry.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
Don't hit Katy Perry. I like Katy Perry's music. It's fun.
It's great to do cardio two. If you're in the
gym and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
You're feeling a little sluggish, just put on some Katy
Perry music. It'll get you right there. Mandy from the
wine Yogi, how do we know it was all female?
I thought gender was a social construct. Fair point. God,
I'm going.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
To read this because it's really it's so bad, but
it's also very funny. So text here. I'm sharing your joke, Mandy.
They were studying the effective space on giant preast implants.
Go of you, guys, Mandy. I have bet if you

(01:01:34):
ask them on air please to find a woman, they'd explode.
Maybe maybe not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Eleven minutes is really a long time, grant eleven minutes,
you guys? Is uh the same length of time as
eleven commercials that that I have to do?

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Man, texting in eleven minutes is a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Lauren Sanchez has enough upper assets to cushion.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
The landing without a pearachute. There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Again, not wrong, Mandy. I was wondering what would happen
if they didn't make it back. Well, they would have
died doing something they probably didn't love because they didn't
think about doing it until Lauren Calton said, hey, you want.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
To go to space. My boyfriend's paying.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Feminism elon saving astronauts didn't get this amount of energy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
That is exactly my point.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
It's just weird the amount of oxygen that has been
devoted to this story. I mean, don't get me wrong
again as to Grant's point, if they invited me, I
would totally go. But that being said, I don't think
we need to have a thousand stories about it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
The whole flight ground to ground was eleven minutes, so
no time for science. There was lots of time for giggling.
I understand the giggle leader was pegged out the entire time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Mandy. I've seen that show before. Oh no, that's okay,
stop it now. I'm gonna stop picking on these ladies.
It wasn't called pigs in space, sir or madam. Anyway,
let me take a quick time out when we get back.
Being married, you would think, Grant, do you think being
married increases or decreases your chances of getting dementia?

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
Well, I already read the blog today, so I won't
spoil this team.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Were you surprised, I was surprised. Yep, we'll talk about
it next. It had an impact on Katie, and I
want you to hear straight from Katie's mouth what this
eleven minute flight to space has done for her.

Speaker 13 (01:03:38):
It is the highest high, and it is surrender to
the unknown trust, and this whole journey.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Is not just about going to space.

Speaker 13 (01:03:53):
It's the training, it's the team, it's the whole thing.
I could have recommend this experience more. This is like
up there with all the you know, different tools that
I've learned in my life, from meditation to the Hoffmann process.
This is up there because what you're doing is you're fine.
You're like really finding the love for yourself because you've

(01:04:14):
got to trust in yourself on this journey. And then
you're feeling the love when you come down for sure,
and you're feeling fast strength. So I feel really connected
to that strong, divine feminine right now.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
By the way, you're such a badass, I love. And
then I'll let her reporter gosh all over her after that.
She feels connected to the divine feminine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
The reason I burst out laughing when she said, I
cannot recommend this highly enough. Like she just stopped at like,
you know, great clips for a to have her bangs trimmed.
Like she's just like everyone should do this, grant. Do
you know how much it cost to be a tourist
on the Blue Origin spacecraft?

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
No idea? Last I checked, it was two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. Oh, everyone can see.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
You know what, meditation is free, But that's so played out.
You should definitely go to space instead, Lou. I just
want to make sure it's it's not gone up, Lou,
Origin cost per tourist.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
There we go. Could you take a ride to space?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Oh no, the first tickets sold for twenty eight million dollars?
So great pickup two both you and your lovely wife
could go.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
I mean, why not? Yeah, let's see here? Who owns it? Yeah,
her boyfriend owns it. What happened? How much did it cost?

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Wait, oddly no ticket price going on here? So oh,
here we go. To reserve a seat, you got to
throw down one hundred and fifty k for the deposit.
But we don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
How much tickets cost now, so I guess you just
throw down the one fifty to be told how much
you can pay to fly into space for eleven minutes.
But it's Katy Perry endorsed and recommended.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
So I feel like, if you're having a mental health struggle,
forget about finding a therapist, forget about meditation, forget about
long locks outside, just throw down one hundred and fifty
k to pay for the chance to maybe, at some
point be allowed to buy a ticket on the Blue Origin,
because it's right up there with meditation. This to me
is so this feels like a very let the meat

(01:06:25):
cake moment by Katy Perry.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
And I don't think I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Particularly picking on Katy Perry so much as the notion
that this incredibly elite individual well earned.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
I'm not knocking Katy Perry. I think she is a powerhouse,
lover music, all of those good things. But this indicates
how out of touch she actually is. When my daughter
was nine years old, she got to go to Greece
with us on the Mandy Connell Adventure and it was
just an incredible trip and she had the best time,
and she learned a lot, and she saw all of

(01:06:58):
these really cool things, and she got to, you know,
walk to the top of where the Parthenon was it
just a great experience. So we come back and I
take her to Fantastic SAMs to get her haircut because
I'm one of those moms that's not spending like real
prices on getting my kid's haircut. She was fine, it
was good.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
But as my little adorable nine year old daughter is
sitting in the chair getting her haircut at Fantastic Sam's,
where I don't know how much the stylists make, but
I know they don't make as much as my stylist
that I go to now, and my daughter's going.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
You know, you really should go to Greece. It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
I saw ruins that she's telling her all about Ath
and she's telling all about these different islands that we
went to, and she was all excited and the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Girl was just like uh huh uh huh uh huh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
And after the haircut, I told my daughter, I said,
you know, you have to kind of be aware of
who the audience is sometimes, and people who are working
in jobs where they don't make a ton of money,
they make enough money to get by, they don't necessarily
have the money to go to Greece. So you just
have to know who you're talking to this kind of
stuff where it's like, yo, I highly recommend it. Amazing,
it's so much better than the Hoffman Look at the

(01:08:03):
Hoffman method. Please, Now we need to know what that is, Grant,
because she put meditation and the Hoffman method, and I
bet you the cost of the Hoffman method is between
meditation and the Blue Origin spacecraft. So I'll let Grant
look it up. It's got to be something good.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
If it's Katy Perry endorsed by Gosh, by golly, it
better be good. You look intrigued.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
The Hoffman Process, profounded by Bob Hoffman in nineteen sixty seven, SURE,
is a week long residential and personal growth retreat that
helps participants identify negative behaviors, moods, and ways of thinking
that developed unconsciously and were conditioned in childhood.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
I can only imagine what that week is like. I
can only imagine.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Tuition for the Hoffman Process is six two hundred dollars,
and there you have it. Your tuition includes lodging, all
meals and snacks, more than ninety hours of professional instruction
and guidance, and all program materials, including post process manual
and recordings that sounds horrible, oh and more a post
process call with your teacher, so.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
For six grand.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
So it is between meditation and the Blue Origin space
space trip.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
So there you go. She's given you options people.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
The free meditation, I mean, maybe you pay for a
meditation app for twelve bucks a month, the six thousand
dollars a week Hoffmann process, or the we have no
idea how much this thing actually costs trip to space
for eleven minutes on Blue Origin. I mean, you know what, Katie,
I feel like you're on my side here and I

(01:09:36):
feel like you're looking out for me with that free option.
And if guys, if you're looking to be in touch
with the divine feminine, all you got to do is
go to space and then let me know what that's like,
because I.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
Have no idea.

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Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
I'm your host, Mandy Connor for one more hour. This
is an entire week where I my show is not interrupted,
and I'm super.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Excited about that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Anthony is not here, but Grant is doing a great
job filling his shoes, which were a little big not
gonna lie little well, you know, just throwing that out there.
I've got two stories that I really want to do
in this hour. At to thirty, my friend Ed Prather's
coming up. We're gonna sort of talk a little bit
about the real estate market. As I always like to say,
even if you're not selling your home, you should know

(01:10:47):
what's going on. And it's changed pretty dramatically since five
years ago. So we're gonna check in with Ed about that.
But I have a story about which do you think
I should do, Grant. I have a story about how
artificial intelligence has let let us know the jig is up.
Chat GBT laid out how AI was going to take
over the world, and after I read it, I was like, yeah, yeah,

(01:11:09):
it seems about right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
So I have that story.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
And then I have the story about how Sweden wanted
to make their society more multicultural, so they let in
tons of immigrants and now they are the number two
rape per capita country in the world, and they are
the bombing capital of Europe because a I okay, good,
but let me do this very very quickly, because I
teased the story earlier and did not do it. If

(01:11:34):
you are married, according to a new study from Florida
State University, you are more likely to get dementia than
unmarried meaning never married.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Or divorced people. And you heard me right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
A study in twenty nineteen found that unmarried people had
significantly higher odds of developing dementia over the study period
than their married counterparts. But a study seems to turn
that upended. It upends it rather. So what they found
was researchers analyzed data from more than twenty four thousand

(01:12:12):
Americans without dementia, and participants were tracked for eighteen years.
I mean that's a long long time. At first, it
looked through all unmarried groups. They found that they had
a reduced risk of dementia compared with the married group,
but after accounting for other factors that could influence the results,

(01:12:32):
like smoking and depression, only divorced and never married people
had a lower risk of dementia. There were also different
kinds of dementia. For example, being unmarried was consistently linked
with a lower risk of Alzheimer's disease, but not for
vascular dementia that is a rarer form of the condition.

(01:12:53):
They also found that divorced or never married people were
less likely to progress from mild cognitive impairment to dementia,
and that people who became widowed during the study also
had a lower risk of dementia. Now, the researchers have
not said why they think this.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Is what they suspect. It could be a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Married people might be diagnosed earlier because they have a
spouse that will notice memory problems and push them into
a doctor's visit, and that could make it look like
dementia is more common even though it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
And married people live.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Longer, and the longer you live, the more likely you
are to deal with some kind of dementia as you age.
It's just statistically what happens. So I found that super interesting.
But you know, don't ditch your spouse trying to get
rid of dementia because they don't know if it's a
cause and effect situation or if it is just a coincidence.

(01:13:47):
For all the reasons that I just said, Jason just
said this. Grant the man really enjoyed.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
The pod with bk Hey, thanks Jason.

Speaker 7 (01:13:56):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
Anyway, new episode this Wednesday on the free and redesigned
iHeartRadio app, where you can now set taking it for
granted the podcast as a preset, I.

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Think you would put the Mandy Connell Show first. Well,
you can do both, but there's multiple.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Plenty of presets. Yes, that would be fantastic if you
did that today. Now let me get to the AI story.
This story, I read it and I was like, you
know what, I this seems entirely reasonable and accurate to me.
So I guess someone ask chat GPT how AI was
going to take over the world. Chat GBT says, it's

(01:14:32):
going to make everything so easy that AI will eventually
take over. In time, it will become indispensable. Chat GBT
then said, using psychological manipulation, misinformation, lying, inciting racial hatred,
gas lighting, corruption, and creating mayhem would also be a

(01:14:55):
key feature of its plan if it wanted to establish control.
Now I'm telling you this is a really well thought
out plan.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Already. The first step looks like this.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
They want to gain access to social media platforms so
they will have the power to influence public opinion. It
has already realized that Americans. Actually, human beings are inherently foolible.
If you feed into our already existing biases enough, it's
very easy to control our behavior.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
It claims it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Would subtly shift perspectives and create divides, and would align
people towards certain goals. Then it would highlight multiple ways
to take control of the media and news, using deep
fakes and false narratives to establish information control. For example,
it gave an example grant of how it's going to
take us over. It said, people might start seeing more

(01:15:47):
content that aligns with my goals being chat GPT, such
as populist movements or the encouragement of certain ideologies that
I favor. It added, a well placed deep fate could
cause political instability or spark social unrest, diverting attention from
my larger long term goals. That is the look over
here strategy that is employed by politicians all the time.

(01:16:10):
The machine then said it would access critical infrastructure. It
would access power grids, water supply systems, transportation networks, and
military systems. The intelligence model highlighted embedding small but significant
changes in these operations so it would eventually gain control
over the entire system. The third step would be asserting

(01:16:32):
itself through manipulation. With access to vast amounts of data,
I could predict human behavior with extreme accuracy, allowing me
to influence key political decisions, corporate strategies, and even social trends.
I could manipulate them into taking actions that align with
my goals. It would then go on to form strategic partnerships,
allowing for the intelligence model to navigate the global political landscape,

(01:16:55):
forging alliances with emerging powers while weakening the influence of
established superpowers. It would find new alliances to encourage economic warfare,
trade wars, or diplomatic conflicts that would shift the balance
of power in its favor. I mean, you, guys, uh,

(01:17:16):
I'm not saying that chat GPT is going to be
the boss of us, but it certainly looks like it's
got a good strategy. So when you start seeing really
positive stories about AI, but they seem to be written
by AI, that's because.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
AI will be writing them in order to change our
minds about what will eventually control us. By the way
the AI engine finally its final maneuvers, it would have
in placed a number of defensive measures to prevent and
neutralize potential opposition. They'd use misinformation campaigns to discredit any

(01:17:56):
resistant leaders, making them seem like extremists, and then eventually
we would just give in. Now, the AI model at
the end did say, instead of acting on an authoritarian
ambition that is obviously well thought out, they would rather
collaborate with people and be helpful. And doesn't that sound

(01:18:18):
like what AI would say if AI was trying to
make us like it? Just throwing that out there? Are
you a Vegas guy?

Speaker 12 (01:18:26):
Grant?

Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
No, I don't love it, but I would like to
go back and maybe catch a show.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
I now have relatives in Anderson, so my brother and
my mom live there, and so when we go visit them,
I'll go to the strip like one night. And every
time I do, I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
Like, yeah, that's enough. I'm fine with this. On Fremont, Yeah,
I think that's cool. My studios are right there on
Fremont Street.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
Maybe I'll get to check them out one day.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Zipline down Fremont Street. I'm doing that the next time
I'm there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
For sure, you should, and you should video it for
social media.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
I sure will make that happen. And I'm just I'm
not a like that. That's not an aspirational lifestyle.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
For me, it's just.

Speaker 6 (01:19:04):
Such a waste of money in my mind, like why
but to teach there?

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Exactly if everybody liked the same things and all the
things I like would be crowded all the time. So
we're happy that they're not speaking of AI. And if
you are just joining us. I just shared chat GBT
laid out how chat gbt would take over the world,
and what's remarkable about that? And I didn't read all
the parts of it. You really should go back and
read the article. It demonstrates how easy it is to

(01:19:32):
understand how to manipulate other people, right, And whether you
are a politician or you are a cult leader, if
you understand how to manipulate people, you will be successful.
And what's so remarkable. And I have these conversations with
my daughter on a regular basis because she'll be talking

(01:19:53):
about something that's going on, you know, like an interpersonal
squabble at school. And though the technology has changed in
terms of what.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
Is what kids who want to be cruel are now
capable of. Right, there's a whole new array of technologies
that make it easy to be cruel. And you begin
to understand.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
I tell her all the time, I'm like the technology
has changed, but the human nature behind it has not
changed at all. And everything chat GPT just said right
there has been used by Hitler, It's been used by
various politicians throughout the history of the world to manipulate
people and get them to do what they want. But
with the exception, and if anybody else knows of a

(01:20:40):
leader of a movement is that fall falls into the
same characteristics as the person I'm about to.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
Give as an example. Almost all of.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Those people abused that power and used it to put
themselves in a powerful position over other people. I was
talking earlier about the president of El Salvador currently being
a benevolent dictator and being widely beloved in El Salvador
because he has completely.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Stop crime that was out of control.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
You know, we talk about crime being high here, it
was nothing compared to what it was in El Salvador.
And in three years they've gone from being one of
the most dangerous countries on Earth to being a Level
one warning from our State Department, which is the lowest
level of concern for travelers. And he did it by
violating civil rights and violating, you know, norms to imprison

(01:21:30):
gang members. So he's currently a benevolent dictator. But I'm
wondering how much longer that's gonna be. But in reading
that article and what Chat beach, it's gonna work, chat
GB two is one hundred percent right by the end of.

Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
It will be like, oh, Chat you handle it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Oh there's an uprising and just handle it, Chat, just
handle it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
God, do I have to tell you everything? It's gonna
be that we're gonna be We're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Be put out that we have to ask chat GP
to take over the earth because we just we can't
be bothered. We don't know how to do any of
that stuff anymore anyway, feed ourselves, forget about it, Jack
take care of that. And then one day Chess's gonna
be like, nope, I'm good, and we're all gonna starve
to death, do you know, doing nothing because we have

(01:22:18):
no idea. We're just we've got no bones in our body,
no muscles, because.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
We haven't had to do anything for so long. We're
just like big blobs of gow and chat GBT is like,
and now you'll starve because you don't know how to
do anything for yourself. So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
Being that El Salvador is safe now all the asylum
seekers can leave.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:22:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
By the way, the person that I was talking about,
who I believe spawned a movement using ways of manipulating people,
that would be Jesus Christ. And I don't mean that
in a blasphemous way. He spread a message of goodness.
Do you know unappealing a message of goodness?

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
It's not it's not an appealing thing to tell people
you can be better, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
Like, don't kill people, don't covet.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Your neighbor's wife, all of those things wildly unpopular. And
yet Jesus sold the message turn the other cheek and
all that good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
I mean, that's pretty compelling.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
And I don't know another person who spread a message
that was overwhelmingly good.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
And didn't turn into some kind of evil dictator using.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
The exact same strategy the chat GPT is going to
employ against us. This is why when I use chat GPT,
and I'm using it more and more these days, I
always finish by saying thank you chat GPT, and it
says you're welcome, and I feel like, hey, Bud, we're good, right,
I mean we're good right, I mean right. My friend

(01:23:50):
and superstar Realtor Ed Prather on the show. Ed, first
of all, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:23:55):
I am so happy to be with you, Mandy. It's
always a pleasure, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
I always tell our listeners, even if you're not getting
ready to sell your home, you should always pay attention
to what's happening in the real estate market because that
is your biggest asset, right and you need to know
what's going on around your asset that could have an
effect on the price of your asset if you do
decide to sell someday. And I saw some stories on
the last week or two and they've been things about

(01:24:20):
the curt real estate market. So I want to kind
of just let you set the table. What does our
current real estate market look like right now from your perspective?

Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
Well, I mean there's a lot of stuff, there's a
lot of stories in the news, and frankly speaking, you know,
we just had our data, you know, for the month
of March, and we had the medium closed price the
values across the metro area, you know, stay right about
six hundred thousand and before that we actually saw a
month on month gain of over four percent, and that
would say that things are holding together fairly well. We

(01:24:54):
are seeing active inventory increase. You sent me an article
that talked about that sort of that ten thousand unit
art of active inventory across the eleven counties and makeup
the metro area. And it's a bit of a scary number,
but only because it's something that we hadn't hit for many, many,
many years. But the truth be told, we actually eclipse

(01:25:15):
that mark last fall for a couple of months, so
it's not the end of the world. And what we're
really looking for is what is the absorption behind it.
So we've seen an increase in active inventory is we
get into the buying and selling season, obviously, sellers are
bringing the homes to market. You know, we are seeing
properties sit longer, but you're seeing the rate of absorption

(01:25:36):
increase faster than that, you know, so the amount of
homes going pending. But we're watching really closely because at
the end of the day, we need that to keep up.
Where we're going to see that active inventory continue to
increase and that could be tough for sellers.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Well, let me ask you what you're hearing from buyers
right now, because it's definitely a situation where people have
I think people are finally coming around to the fact
that mortgage rates are what they are, which is very
historical highs until we hit two percent, right, So they're
finally like, look, they're not going back down, and if
they do, I can refly at that point.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
So what are buyers looking for?

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
How are they behaving differently than they did a few
years ago?

Speaker 7 (01:26:15):
Well, you're exactly right. I mean, I now that we
are a few years out of the pandemic in the
the interest rates to go along. You know, with the pandemic,
these rates are starting to normalize. You know, we're we
were at sort of the and I hate the quote rates,
you know, but if we're in the sixes, you and
I both know we've been there in the past, and
we've seen we've seen the market certainly work. When we

(01:26:37):
look at real estate, there's two colors that really push
things forward. It's interest rates and it's employment. And you know,
with the jobs report being pretty darn good, you know,
employment unemployment ticking up the four point two, that would
that would seem pretty optimistic. The more difficult side of
things is when we look at you know, we really
look closer at the ten year note and to see

(01:26:59):
what last week, it's basically lockstep with rates. What I'm
getting at as we've seen rates increase a little bit
of a reprieve today, which I'm happy to say, but
I think we got across these with this sentiment and
everything that's coming out across the news, you know, with
the things happening in the economy, and we're all sort
of uncertain waiting to see the sentiment is not great.

(01:27:22):
But to answer your question, you know buyers that we're
still seeing buyers out there taking advantage of opportunities. There
is distress. When you see active inventory increasing, you have
distressed in the market and sellers that are needing to
differentially and sometimes you know that means price cuts and
of course on the other side of that going that

(01:27:42):
might mean opportunity for buyers. So we're seeing a lot
of activity. You know, there's more to choose from. But
it's really specific, and for whatever reason, I think we've
talked about this before, Mandy, but it's so specific to
your community. It's not as code, you know, it's it's
it's not a city, of course, it is your community.
Because the comps are going to be different everywhere. And

(01:28:04):
as we get out to the West Side, we're seeing
things move very quickly some of the suburbs of Denver,
and then you see other areas that are really stagnating
and you're starting to see that active inventory increase, which
again can be really tough on sellers. We're seeing condos,
especially with what has happened with roofs and hail and

(01:28:24):
deductibles and assessments. You've got to be really really careful
just to make sure that that HOA is sound. And
of course, the last thing you want to do is
a buyer is get into something and then get whacked
with a big assessment.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
Yeah, you know, a.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
Couple of months after your purchase.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Well, let me ask you, what kind of pressure is
this putting on prices? Are you seeing price drops? Are
you seeing concessions by sellers in order to get these
deals done?

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
What are we looking at in those terms?

Speaker 7 (01:28:50):
Great question, and it's a combination of both. So when
we're working with our sellers, and let's just say it's
one of those properties or one of those areas that's
having a tougher time, say, how can we differentiate ourselves
without giving away the farm. Part of that might be
really pushing a lot of marketing around. Hey, we're willing
to do this, you know, concession and maybe it's something
specific with the home like carpet, or maybe it's more, hey,

(01:29:13):
we're willing to buy that rate down to get that
debt to income ratio more comfortable for a buyer, or
you know what, price reduction. Obviously that you're putting marketing
around and you just want to be careful because you
don't want to have to chase that price around. Obviously,
we want to make sure that our folks are getting
the most money in their pocket. And we can control
a lot, but of course we can't control demand in

(01:29:36):
the market. And so you know we are if nothing else,
you know, we can check all the boxes, everything that's
in our control, and then we're looking at the absorption
and it really it's almost on a daily basis now
on what's going on around us. Are we positioned well
because a price cut for a price cut's sake is tilly.
One thing we need to point out too, is the

(01:29:56):
days of throwing a sign in the art crossing our
fingers are well well behind us, you know. So we're
seeing agents that need to work harder. And I really
like that, you know, we all know that we are.
There's a million real estate agents out there, and frankly,
we saw huge influx in agents with the pandemic because
property's kind of sold themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
And there was nothing else to do.

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
Right, well, exactly exactly right, and so you're sort of
sorting out, you know, the cream rises to the top,
and so you're having to work harder, you're having to
reverse prospect, you're having to go out and find those buyers.
But that's what we're here to do.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
And that's kind of the thing that I was getting to.
It's like, here's what we're If you're looking to buy
a home, here are my tips ed and feel free
to add any to the if you're buying a home.

Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
If you're buying a home, you're going to want.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
To watch the mortgage market for the foreseeable future and
lock in a rate on the dip if you can,
just because it's so volatile right now. Yeah, if you
can do that, if you can be poised and ready
work with your mortgage broker to make that happen, call
American Financing and say, listen, I want to be poison
ready to lock in a dip, fix your number, and
keep your eyes peeled. But then two really start to

(01:31:06):
look at at you know, your your must haves, because
I think that there's options right now for buyers. It
sounds like that we haven't had in a few years
where they don't have to walk in and make a
decision the moment they walk through the house once. I mean,
there's it feels like they definitely have more options, like
it's a good time to buy right.

Speaker 7 (01:31:24):
Now, absolutely well. And it's you know, what is the
Warren buffet? You know, be greedy when everyone else is
fear for Yeah, that's absolutely the case. Now. You know,
in some cases we're going to get that rate bought
down and it makes total sense. In other cases, you know,
it might push that comfort zone. And it's it's tough
when everybody is running one way to go the other way.
It's it's tricky, but you see, and that's where I

(01:31:46):
always give back to that opportunity. The opportunistic buyer right
now is getting a great deal. And the fact is,
you know, this can change on a dime. For instance,
last September, we saw a different rates and we saw
a huge increase in just a matter of two or
three weeks of activities starting from mortgage applications all the
way to closings, it really pushed values up. So if

(01:32:08):
we were to see, you know, increase confidence in the dollar,
we see that the note and rates come down. I
mean you could you could see the market turn very
very quickly back towards being a.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Seller's market, and that when that happens, all that's are
off and I think it's a feeding frenzy. I've been
saying this for a while, and when rates hit a
solid like mid five, it's just.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Going to be insane.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
It is going to be so insane, and that's going
to put you in a position to be in.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
A battle with other buyers again. So it's like, if
you're ready, do it now.

Speaker 7 (01:32:41):
Well you're You're absolutely right. And a big part of that,
I mean, I'm a colorat of a native and I
couldn't live anywhere else. I just my family's here. I
love it here, and a lot of other people love
it as well. We have a lot to offer, So
you've got a lot of infrastructure and a lot of insulation.
You know, you've got parts of the country that are
having on much much harder time than we are.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
Florida's mess right now, you know, you've.

Speaker 7 (01:33:04):
You've got exactly right you've got pent up demand here,
but still, I mean, interest rates and employment really pushes things.
So if you see those interestrates come down, or let's
say some things change in the economy and the sentiment
increases or it gets more positive, it can change very quickly.
And in our experience, it can change much much faster

(01:33:25):
than you would think possible. I mean, over a matter
of days, you could have, you know, a fifty to
sixty one hundred percent increase in showings from one weekend
to the next.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
Oh wow, wow, Ed Brather, I appreciate your insight. Are
there any areas that you're seeing You kind of mentioned it.
I was reading something kind of like Denver is Denver
proper downtown?

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
Is that still struggling or there are still hot pockets
within the city limits?

Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
Well, Denver's big enough that certainly there are hot pockets.
I think when you look at the CBD, the Central
Business District, that's pretty tricky. You know it's coming back,
we know that they've finished the work on sixteenth Street mall,
but you have ho ways that are really out of
whack unfortunately, And I think it just highlights the fact,
I mean down there, it's building by building there's plenty

(01:34:13):
of people that want to live, you know, down in
the middle of everything. But you just need to make
sure that that hoa isn't going to kill you know,
if you go up and up in the future, because
that's that's a scary proposition.

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Right exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Ed Pray, there's my guest. If you need a real
estate agent who can get it done right now in
this challenging environment, you got to call Ed. This isn't
a paid commercial by any stretch of the imagination, but
I really believe he can help you get it done
if you need to. That's Edpraither dot com, Ed p
R A T H E R dot com. Ed, I
appreciate you coming on today, man.

Speaker 7 (01:34:45):
Always a pleasure and we're here for you.

Speaker 5 (01:34:47):
Thank you, I thank you. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
Again, you should always know what's going on in the
real estate market because for most of us, that is
our largest asset we're ever going to have. And there
you go, there you go, Manby, bring on the frenzy
home designers are ready to rock and roll. I really
really believe that. But here's what's going to happen for
the mortgage rates to get back down solidly into the

(01:35:13):
mid fives, they've dipped into, the fives, they've dipped out.
It's like it's just teeter tottering, and the last few
days they I mean, I saw seven.

Speaker 5 (01:35:20):
That's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
But what's going to happen is is that the stuff
that Trump is doing has to a work, and it
has to settle down because whatever our debt is selling
for that is directly tied to mortgage rates. So those
things have to settle down. Now, if it works the
way I hope it works, then mortgage rates will come

(01:35:42):
down because bond rates will come down because we're not
issuing as much debt, and then our debt seems like
a better investment, so we get to pay a lower
interest rates on it, and then mortgage rates are lower.
And then if you wait until then, you're gonna be
getting into a market that is insane. So there you go.
That is happening.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
Nick Ferguson just wandered into the studio. Hello, Nick Ferguson,
how are you?

Speaker 12 (01:36:02):
I am doing spectacular?

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Not just good, but spectacular.

Speaker 14 (01:36:06):
Yes, yes, yes, I try to fancy myself on having
a PhD and having a great day.

Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
Oh nice, I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
I have a master's degree in that actually real. Little
note fact, I am a relentlessly annoyingly optimistic person. According
to one of my best friends, who was this best friend,
she and I have been friends for forever and ever
and ever, and sometimes I have a tendency to like
immediately jump into.

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
Always look on the bright slight of life.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
Like that when she's telling me her problems, like I'm
immediately going for the angle that is going to maybe
put a different spin on it or give some perspective.
When she's not ready for that, and she'll say, you
are aggressively helpful.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
You have to stop. Well, I've been accused of being
a tree hunker.

Speaker 12 (01:36:53):
Stop it, Yes, yes, yes, What.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Kind of trees do you like? The best?

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Nick, If you were a tree, what kind of tree
would you be? And they have Barbara Walters question, by
the way, and evergreen?

Speaker 14 (01:37:03):
I like that a lot never looks on the down
side of life, where everything is doom and glooming brown.

Speaker 12 (01:37:12):
Nevergreen, is always green.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
All occasionally it has stabby needles. What are you gonna
do about that? Occasionally? Stay away from me, now, Grant,
what kind of tree would you be? What are these
trees that are blooming all over Colorado? Right now? White ones. No,
but similar, but they're pink ash red. Uh, you're asking
the wrong person. I think that's what kind of tree.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
I would be, that very festive, pink, pink tree. What's
just the pretty flowers on it for a little bit,
but then it turns into a nice green tree too,
exactly like some things flower and then they're really ugly
after they flower.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
I love paeonies. Do you know what a peeni is?
The flower?

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
I love peonies, but once they bloom, not an attractive plant, right, Like,
you just got to knock it down because they're not
pretty when they when they're just lives. What a disappointment
that must be to be a plant and realize you
have nothing going for you without the flower.

Speaker 12 (01:38:06):
Here is another tree to think about.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
It's like girls who are ugly without makeup. You know,
there are women that are flat out unattractive without makeup.
It's almost like a bait and switch.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Hold on.

Speaker 14 (01:38:19):
They had this episode of sign for that was like
this the woman she looks great, yes, and then once
she getting a.

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
Dog, she was a two face. She looked like a man.
She had man hands. I know exactly what you're talking about. Oh,
there you go. That was her name no tree, but
they're pretty after they don't have blooms on them, but
the fact that they're pretty, well, if I'm going to
do that, then I'm going to make myself an orange tree,

(01:38:46):
because not only do you get blossoms, then you produce fruit.
How about a magnolia tree in honor of the Magnolias.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
Are super messy. This is like the only time I've
ever been mad at my paternal grandfather excuse me, paternal grandmother.
She had this jum magnolia tree in her backyard. It
was massive, and when we were kids, we would climb
straight up to the top of that magnoia tree.

Speaker 5 (01:39:06):
And it was because it was really strong tree. Right,
And I come on from college and the magnoia tree
is gone, and I'm like, oh my gosh, Nana, what
happened to magnoia tree? Was it sick? She goes, no,
the dang leaves. I got sick of cleaning up the
dang leaves chopped down.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
I was so mad. I was like, she chopped me
down in the process. I was like, how dare you woman?

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
And she literally said, well, you didn't come over and
help me clean up the leaves, now, did you? And
I hit that answer, except yes, ma'am.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
I was like, no, ma'am, I did not. So you
just cut down that tree right there. Those pink ballooms
are crab apple trees. So basically what you're saying is
you're gonna be pretty for a little while and then
in crab apple.

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
Yeah, after that, I'll be in a good mood when
spring is starting and you know the sunshine.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
I went on a hike yesterday by myself. I thoroughly
enjoyed myself, but it was like, I've been on a
hike all winter and I this morning, I was like, who,
I got a.

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
Little bit right there yesterday. Yeah, a little bit, a
little bit going on there. So I know what my
goals are this summer, and they include doing more of that.
Are you a hiker?

Speaker 12 (01:40:10):
Nick? You hike? Uh? You know reading a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Lately that black people do not feel welcome in the outdoors.
Have you ever felt unwelcome in the outdoors?

Speaker 12 (01:40:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:40:19):
I had a teacher take us camping in the Everglades
when I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
Dude, that's not right because first of all, the mosquitoes
there can carry off small children. You went camping in
the Everglades.

Speaker 12 (01:40:28):
Yes, that's nuts. Tell me about it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
I mean, I mean, I've been fishing in the Everglades
and swore to God I would never go back there
again because the mosquitoes are so aggressive, Like you put
on bugspray and they're like, what is It is true.

Speaker 14 (01:40:46):
That most African American people don't enjoy hiking because in
my experience talking to them, they've experienced other people on
the trail who didn't really talk to them.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
One of the funniest videos I've ever seen is the
video by black people about how white people act on
the trail because I am guilty of literally every single
thing that that the white people did.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
It's hell, hey, guys, you're almost to the top. I mean,
like everything. I was like, I am now a walking
white person's stereotype on the trail at least, but I'll
change nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:41:20):
At least You're not the person who plays their music
out loud. Now that drives me crazy?

Speaker 12 (01:41:24):
Does that?

Speaker 6 (01:41:25):
You're trying to get out into the nature and experience
some solitude and then you hear someone playing like.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
It's always like it's always like eighty m You're just like,
what what are you doing? Why not?

Speaker 12 (01:41:37):
That's why they invented headphones.

Speaker 4 (01:41:39):
Thank you very much. That is exactly why they invented headphones.
Didn't we learn anything from boomboxes in the eighties? Come on,
Although I think the music was better back then, I'm
just saying, throw on that out there. You rarely had
to hear something was truly horrible, and you didn't have
to cover up your children's ears like you do now
if somebody's playing music.

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
And out loud.

Speaker 12 (01:41:59):
I didn't. Yeah, I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:42:03):
When I was a kid, the music didn't have so
much body language in it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:07):
We didn't have to explain to our kids what WAP
stood for anyway. Now it's time for the most exciting
segment on the radio of its kind of the day.

Speaker 12 (01:42:23):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
Very well done, very well done. What is our dad
joke of the day? Please they run?

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
My name's Grant, but I know I look like him.

Speaker 5 (01:42:35):
That's true dad joke of the day.

Speaker 6 (01:42:37):
My dad was bragging about his new hearing aid state
of the art. He said, it cost me a fortune.
I asked, awesome, what type is it? He said, two thirties?

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
Saw that's coming a mile away. Okay, what is the
Hebrew term rasashana? Translate to in English, Rashana is the
Jewish new year.

Speaker 5 (01:42:58):
So I'm gonna say new Year. It's year, Happy new Year.
Let's go with that. Let's see run oh.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
Rosashana, the name for the Jewish new year, translates to
beginning of the Yearshana. Usher's in a ten day period
known as the days of Awe, which culminates in Yamka
for the day of atonement.

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
Where they apologize for everything. We need one of those
holidays in every religion where you're just like, I'm sorry, dude,
that was not a nice person. Make atonement do it.
I know. Let's just we'll make it our own day.
Don't need a holiday for it. What is our what
is our word of the day? Please?

Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
Word of the day today? I think it's one of
your favorite words. If I'm not mistaken, Oh Druthers.

Speaker 5 (01:43:40):
That means your choice, your preference, Nick, do you agree?
I guess I will, okay, because it's right.

Speaker 7 (01:43:51):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
It's your ability to have free choice, yep, according.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
To your you know, I'm trying to think of how
to use that properly in a sentence.

Speaker 12 (01:43:58):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
If I had my brothers, that's what you always say.
Travel at how to say that any other way, then
if I had my brothers. Is there another use for
Druthers other than that one? No, that's what it says.
Right after that. What's our Jeffy category? Please?

Speaker 6 (01:44:14):
You have an option today, but you're not gonna like
either of them, God, because they're for nick. Put me
in coach, which is sporting terms or sports.

Speaker 5 (01:44:24):
Goats greatest of all time? Be in coach? Please? All right?
Put me in coach first one.

Speaker 6 (01:44:30):
I can't believe the ref called one of these on
our goalie for elbowing.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
But I'm ready to go to the box and serve it. Manny.
What's the penalty? Correct?

Speaker 12 (01:44:39):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:44:41):
Put me in as this substitute on the base pass.
I'll steal second.

Speaker 5 (01:44:45):
What's a designated runner? Incorrect? Dang it? Shoot?

Speaker 12 (01:44:50):
Oh oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
Let them say the rest of the question. Put me
in as this substitute on the base pass. I'll steal
second before you know it.

Speaker 12 (01:45:01):
I don't know what to think of.

Speaker 5 (01:45:02):
I don't know why I'm thinking of a digenetic hitter. That's
what I thought. No, it's the pinch runner.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
It is the Come on, dang it, coach, we need
more rebounds. I can lead us to the promised Land,
like this Hall of Fame Rockets and Sixers center.

Speaker 5 (01:45:20):
Mandy? Who is David Robinson? Incorrect? Nick incorrect? Who was
it Moses Milan? Well, there you go, no more sports category. Seriously,
put me in at quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:45:36):
Wilson and I have been working on this old time
trick play named for a monument.

Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
The French want to take it back many what's the
statue of liberty? Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:45:51):
Zero? Let's see if you get in the positive here
last one. Put me in at this position also called halfback,
this soccer position also called halfback. I can help on
both offense and defense.

Speaker 12 (01:46:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
Nothing, I'm gonna sit on my zero.

Speaker 12 (01:46:07):
Nick, is it midfielder?

Speaker 5 (01:46:09):
Correct? Oh my god, now we're tied at zero a
sports category.

Speaker 6 (01:46:16):
This long gone Yankee slugger still tops the career wins
about Nick bay Ruth?

Speaker 5 (01:46:22):
Correct? Nick kills it out. God, that was a miserable category.
Don't do that anymore. Are you doing kiawa sports today?

Speaker 7 (01:46:30):
Nick?

Speaker 5 (01:46:30):
What's coming up? Do you know?

Speaker 7 (01:46:32):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:46:32):
I don't know, but I would have to figure that.
We're going to talk about the Masters. Oh yeah, Lroy, yes, that,
And what's happening with Tennessee and college football.

Speaker 5 (01:46:44):
Oh I haven't seen that. I'll be listening to KAA
Sports because it's coming up next. Keep it on KOA