06-18-25 FULL SHOW - Jimmy Sengenberger Fills In

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good afternoon, Jimmy sanging Berger, and one more time for
Mandy Connell, who, as I understand it, returns that next week.

(01:07):
We have hardly done any Harmonica in my times filling
in while Mandy has been traveling the globe, so we
got to get a little of that as we kick
things off here on k oh A. Good to be
with you as we continue with the whirlwind of news

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and now President Trump this morning is really underscoring that
he's serious about Iran.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Prediculous US unconditional, very simple words, a very simple, unconditional
surrender that.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Means I've had it.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Okay, I've had it.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I give up no more. Then we go blow up
all the you know, all the nuclear stuff. It's all
over the place there.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
They had bad intentions, you know, the for forty years
they've been saying death to America, death to Israel.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Death to anybody else that they didn't like. They were bullies.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
That is President Trump just this morning as he answered
some questions from the press regarding the possibility of a strike.
And I appreciate the unpredictability here.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I believe the US is moving closer to striking Iranian
nuclear facilities.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Where's your mindset on that? You can say that, right?
You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that question?
Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component? And what time exactly?

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Sir, sir would you strike it? Would you please inform
us so we can be there and watch. I mean,
you don't know that I'm going to even do it.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
You don't know. I may do it, I may not
do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.
I can tell you this that Iran's got a.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Lot of trouble.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Iran's got a lot of trouble, And yes, indeed they do,
especially when as we just heard as well, President Trump
is explaining unconditional surrender means they're done, and Iran pushing
back with the Supreme Leader coming a saying no, we're

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not going to surrender. But President Trump is very clear
that well, you know what, Well, the point that we
are at now, it's very late when it comes to
the prospect of Iran coming to the table.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
What have you wanted to reach out to you?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yes, And I said it's very late, you know.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
I said, it's very late to be talking the president.
And we may mean it's it's I don't know. There's
a big difference between now and a week ago.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Right, And what is so stupid in the mind of
President Trump?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
And it's really a shame, so stupid, it's so stupid.
It's another one, you know, Russia, Ukraine is so stupid.
What it never happened If I was president, you guys
agree with that?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Would it never happened? If I was president, Putin would
have never done it.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
And I spoke to him yesterday and I said, you know,
he actually offered to help mediate.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
I said, do me a favor, mediate your own.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Let's mediate Russia first, Okay, I said, Vladimir, let's mediate
Russia first.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
You could worry about this later. But uh, I think
that's going to work out too. But so many people
have been killed.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
But the big thing with that one is far more
people are dead than have been reported. In the Ukraine, Russia,
many many more people. A building falls down, they say,
nobody was hurting, you.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Know, blending right in to Ukraine and Russia. But that
interesting tidbit confirming reports. Some reports had said that President
Trump was floating the notion of Vladimir Putin negotiating, and
clearly it was Putin himself according to President Trump who
floated that idea. And Trump's saying, you need to focus

(05:03):
on mediating your own conflict first.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
And here's something else too.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's just that the tough talk that President Trump has
on Iran is getting stronger and stronger, especially in the
face of some of the opposition within his MAGA ranks,
as people are breaking ranks among some within the media
class like the Tucker Carlston and others taking a position

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very critical. Some in Congress criticizing President Trump. We'll talk
later about the disintegration of the Trump coalition and whether
or not that's something really happening and is a long
lasting phenomenon. But Marjorie Taylor Green, the Congresswoman of Georgia,

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hitting a little bit on that criticism.

Speaker 9 (05:53):
The United States strikes Iran, what will that do to
President Trump's coalition.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
It's going to fracture it, and it's already fracture.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
In it to what extent though, is it fractured with
all the criticism being leveled and how long it lasts. Well,
either way, no matter what fracture is and how big
it is, President Trump is not backing down on this.
I find that rather fascinating from the man who insisted
he was not going to get the United States involved

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in a new military conflict.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
But here's the reality. And he knows this.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Well, having been had a presidency for his first term
and now in his second term. When you are a president,
when you are in that chair, you don't really know,
you don't really get it, and sometimes you have to act.

Speaker 8 (06:44):
And that's what he seems to be doing.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
And he's talking about as well, the significance of the
stakes and his own personal history that this is a
consistent position on Iran that he has taken for many years.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
But is there anybody here that said it would be
okay to have to have a hostile very you know, zealous, really,
but to have a hostile country have a nuclear weapon
that could destroy twenty five miles, but much more than
that could destroy other nations just by the breeze blowing
the dust. You know that dust blows to other nations

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and they get estimated. This is just not a threat
you can have. And we've been threatened by Iran for
many years. And if you go back and look at
my history, if you go back fifteen years, I was
saying we cannot let Iran get a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
I've been saying it for a long time. I mean
it more now than I've ever meant it.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, question, I mean it more now than I ever
meant it. But I've been consistent on this position for
a very long time. It is really interesting to see
John Bolton, Trump's what former national security advisor was any
the first national security advisor in his first administration, John

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Bolton and Donald Trump aligned on Iran. Folks like this
is a remarkable moment. But I really think that Trump
is level headed on this. He's clear headed on this,
and that while he may end up being inclined to
send a couple of B fifty two bombers into Iran
to strike at the underground nuclear bunkers that they've got there,

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I don't think he has any desire to have on
the ground US military forces, to have a prolonged conflict,
to engage in regime change that is orchestrated specifically by
the United States. It seems more like we are going
to act he last week. I mean, this is a
guy in Trump who likes shows of strength, who likes decisiveness,

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who likes to see something happen that is very successful.
And what was Israel's strike on Iran last week? Multifaceted
as it was, with drones inside, agents on the ground,
an airstrike, all coordinated with a short span of time,
with absolute precision down to bedrooms of certain officials or

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military leaders that were killed, but a show of decisive
strength and force that I think got Trump going, Yeah,
they really mean what they say, and they do it.
They get it done right, they get it done well,
and that makes a guy like him more inclined to act,

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more inclined to support the Israelis in this mission, because
it's not like Israel wants to occupy Iran. Israel has
a fraction, I think, a tenth of the population of Iran.

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How could they possibly occupy that country no way, shape
or form, And the United States is not inclined to
do that. It will probably be up to the Iranian
resistance to step up and take matters into their own hands.
But I don't think we should have a real concern.
I mean, it's always possible, but I don't think it

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likely for Trump to make that sort of decision.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
And he had one other.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Thing to say that I thought was notable this morning,
regarding the strike and the timeframe of it all.

Speaker 8 (10:25):
He says, it ended on the first night.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
And I'm telling him, you got to you gotta do something,
you got to negotiate. And at the end, last minute,
they said, no, we're not going to do that, and
they got hit. Remember sixty days, and then came the
sixty sixty one is going to become a very famous number.
That was one hell of a hit, that first hit.
That was one hell of a hit. Not sustainable, to
be honest. That's where it ended. It ended on the

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first night.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yes too, it.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Ended on the first night.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And notable how he says that, That's what I mean
when I'm talking about Trump admiring the decisiveness and the
strength and fortitude of the Israelis strike in a short
span of time. They mean business and he gets that.
The final thing that Trump said this morning that stands

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out is he praised the Iranian people. Remember this is
not about the people of Iran. Bibnetan Yahoo has talked
about Prime Minister of Israel. On Sunday Fox News, he
talked about the relationship, longstanding historical relationship between the Jewish
people and the Persian people. Well, Trump's sort of echoing

(11:38):
that sort of sentiment with some praise of the Iranian
people as opposed to the Iranian regime.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I know a lot of people from Iran, from New York,
from Washington, mostly from New York. They are incredible people.
They're smart, they're energetic. They can't be difficult, but so
can you. You know, I know they're great people. They're
smart people. And those people are getting I'll be out.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Of them now, and that is because of the Iranian
government and they're lying in their intransigence. I think Trump
has been decisive and right on here, and I do
believe he has been approaching this from the perspective of
America first, in this sense that this is a threat

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to the United States of America that needs to be addressed.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
It is not the kind I don't know that to
the extent necessarily that Lindsey Graham frames and take a
listen to this as he bangs the war gong for freedom.

Speaker 10 (12:38):
I can guarantee you that if the Itola gets a
nuclear weapon, he will use it.

Speaker 11 (12:42):
I believe that with all my heart and soul.

Speaker 10 (12:44):
So the men and women who serve, they're the ones going,
not people answering a poll, and if you ask them,
would you be willing to risk your life to stop
the Ietola from having a nuclear weapon?

Speaker 5 (12:55):
All of them.

Speaker 10 (12:55):
Would say yes because it makes their country, Our country
is safer. So we live in a world where you've
got to confront problems. You want to avoid World War three.
Learn the lessons from World War two. People in World
War Two appeased Hitler to the point that it got
so much out of hand. We had a world war
and sixty million people got killed.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So we live in a world where you.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Pay now or you pay later.

Speaker 10 (13:18):
Let's stop this threat before he gets a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 11 (13:21):
Let's end this reign of terror.

Speaker 10 (13:23):
Let's do it now.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
It's not going to take twenty months.

Speaker 10 (13:25):
But I can't guarantee you your freedom and your safety
unless we're willing to fight for it.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
I can guarantee you this.

Speaker 10 (13:32):
If we don't fight for our freedom, we will lose it.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I agree certainly in theory in that last piece, if
we don't fight for our freedom, we will lose it.
Sure without a doubt every day we need to fight
as Americans for our freedom. And of course he's right
that there are issues of risk to the United States.
Our safety is at risk if a Roan obtains nuclear

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weapon with the kind of ambitions that they have and
the kinds of terrorist connections and so forth they have, Like,
the risks are extraordinary. But I do think Lindsey Graham
is getting himself a little too excited at the prospect
of direct US military engagement, at least that's some of

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what it sounds like to me there. I'm a little
bit more reserved in that, like Senator James Langford of Oklahoma,
who yeah, I mean, he's a bit more measured, but
agrees we can't just sit back.

Speaker 12 (14:29):
We should never rush into a before is our conflict,
This is loss of life. This is all kinds of
consequences that are unknown after the fact. But when we
are attacked, when we're threatened, we can't just sit back
and pretend it's not going to happen. If nine to
eleven taught us anything, when people chant death to America
thousands of miles away, that does have consequences.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
They can carry that out.

Speaker 12 (14:52):
And the Iranians have been diligent to be able to
attack our vessels through the Houthis and Yemen they forces
in Iraq.

Speaker 8 (15:01):
They have definitely come out our ally Israel.

Speaker 12 (15:04):
But remember this is the same Iran and the same
Isatola who has led the death to America, death to
the Jews chant and has also focused on trying to
be able to assassinate former members of Trump's cabinet, president
Trump himself. So this is not just a passive entity
that's out there that just talk. They've been active in
trying to be able to kill Americans in the past.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
This is not a country that hasn't attacked the United
States or Americans.

Speaker 8 (15:33):
That is the opposite of the truth.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Not just Israel has fallen prey to Iran, but the
United States has. So that's important to keep in mind
in terms of why it's essential to follow through on
these actions. It is about peace through strength. And if
you get to the negotiation table with Iran again, what
does that mean? You need trust but verify. But that's

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even if you can get to the point of trust
when they have lied about their nuclear weapons capabilities.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
And here we.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Are, which is probably why President Trump is not so
inclined to jump in full speed ahead into the mode
of negotiation because Iran at this moment simply does not
have credibility, and that's what negotiations are about, is credibility.

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We'll talk more about the divide amongst the MAGA crowd
later on in the program, because it is fascinating to
see this and to wonder is the coalition crumbling, was
it sort of lightly tethered together to the point where
this was inevitable.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
Or is this just a flash.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
In the pan at the moment and then something's going
to change at a later point and folks will fall
back in line along with President Trump. That is the
big question. And one other piece to this as well.
You are not seeing Russia engage with Iran. You are

(17:20):
not seeing China engage with Iran in terms of providing support,
in terms of providing specific aid. Now. The Chinese president, though,
did break his silence on this conflict, delivering a statement Tuesday,

(17:44):
which of course is today, saying they're deeply concerned about
these tensions and what's happening. We oppose any act that
infringes upon the sovereignty, security, and territorial integrity of other countries,
adding that escalation is quote not in the common interest
of the international community. According to Newsweek, the Chinese leader

(18:07):
reiterated his call for de escalation, said Beijing is ready
to play a constructive role in restoring stability in the
Middle East. This calls to mind what Tim Walls, the
guy who wanted to be vice president for Kamala Harris,
said late last week or early in the weekend, where
he said that China is the one country with the

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moral authority.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
The Chinese have the moral.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Authority to broker peace, which I think is one of
the most absurd statements.

Speaker 8 (18:42):
That I have heard. But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Chi Jinping is just saying, we want de escalation. We
don't want it to increase. We think the sovereignty, security,
and territorial integrity of another country is being infringed here
and that shouldn't happen. But they are not providing real support,
at least to our knowledge, and it doesn't seem like
China necessarily will want to. They've already bet on a

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struggling horse in Russia and Ukraine, because the Russians were
supposed to get the invasion underway and then take over
the country within six months. Now Here we are years
later and Russia is still fighting and Ukraine still controls
most of the territory because of international support. Sure has

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really helped in the Ukrainian resolve as well. But the
point is that they bet on a horse in Russia
that has not gone in the direction they want. Now
they look and they see Iran as utterly incapable of
fending off Israel and the United States with United States
support and possibly direct involvement from America. So why is

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China going to want to get deeply involved.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
I don't see that happening.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
It is really interesting to see Russia remaining on the
sidelines in China, largely on the sidelines. Just Shijin Ping,
leader of the Communist Party there, breaking his silence just
a little bit, talking about concern over.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
These strikes in the war underway.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I'm Drivy Sangenberger, filling in for Mandy Connell. Just getting
started today as we continue on KOA A little oversight
in the last segment talking about the strikes from Israel
on Iran. A listener reminding me of this five six
six nine zero KOA Common Spirit Health text line. China

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has sent three seven forty sevens to Iran this week
that turned their transponders off when entering Iranian airspace. They
are supporting, just not above board. So a couple of
thoughts on this. There is actually a really good peace
on this from just today by Jim Garrity at the

(21:06):
National Review, talking about how a day after Israel attacked
Iran on Friday, a cargo plane took off from China.
The next day, a second plane departed from a coastal city.
Then on Monday, yet another departed, this time from Shanghai.
Three flights in three days. This, according looks like from

(21:31):
Yahoo Knews what He's sighting here. Data showed that on
each flight, the plane flew westward along northern China, crossing
into Kazakhstan, then south into Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, and then
falling off the radar as it neared Iran. To add
to the mystery, flight plans indicated a final destination of Luxembourg,

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but the aircraft appeared to have never flown near European skies.
Aviation experts note that the type of plane used Boeing
seven to forty seven freighters, commonly used for transporting military
equipment and weapons, hired to fly government contract orders. But
first of all, we don't know what they are transporting.

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Second of all, it's kind of hard to think, as
I was going along making the point of before, that
China is really going to want to invest much in
a losing cause. Iran has essentially already lost this thing,
at least that's pretty clearly what seems to be the case,
and there aren't any signs that they're going to be
able to turn that around, even with some Chinese help.

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But then there are the updates that Garrity has here
from the Atlantic Council, writing that an aviation expert explaining
those flights are not actually landing in Iran but in
a city in Turkmenistan near the Iranian border, the tracking
signal erroneously making it appear that the planes are flying

(22:59):
into Iranian airspace. The expert adds, a major European cargo
company is highly unlikely to be the channel through which
China transfers it's super advanced, top secret strategic weapons to Iran.
So maybe these flights are nothing unusual, right, Scarrity, just
routine refueling before continuing on to European destinations, although once

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they go to ta Kmenistan, it's easy to get to Iran.
But then he's got an update to the update showing
a flight radar image showing that the plane from Shanghai
to Luxembourg. It could be a matter of just inaccurate
transponders and flight traffic tracking. But at the same time

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it is beyond the Turkmenistan Iran border. So there is
the plot sickens. There is a mystery here. Is the
Chinese Communist Party trying to bolster the Iranian regime with
seven forty seven flights or is there something else going
on here where those planes.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
Are going elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
And it just there's a drop off from the transponders
in a certain region, certain area, or is there some
other explanation if they are going to Iran, what are
they bringing? Of course we're talking about this the day
that Shiji Ping came out with his first statements on

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the battle in Iran, saying he is deeply concerned and
opposes any act that infringes upon the sovereignty, security, and
territorial integrity of other countries five sixty six nine zero
The KOA Common Spirit health text line.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
Let's shift gears.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
I have a press release from the Colorado State Patrol.
That to me is a very important press release, very
near and dear to my heart. Why because the headline
is Hyundai and Kia. Thefts remain a significant portion of
all auto thefts in Colorado. Now, why is this near

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and dear to my heart? Because I'm a three time
victim of auto theft in twenty twenty. In twenty and twenty,
I had my car stolen in what June I think
it was, So it was a long ordeal and it

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was used.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
Gosh.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
They ended up having to total the car because there
were drugs stuffed down the vents, meth.

Speaker 8 (25:42):
You can't get the car back after that.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
But just as it was being totaled, it was stolen again,
that car from the autobody shop that it was at.

Speaker 8 (25:55):
So I got a new car.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
A month after I got the new car, just weeks
a vandal through a rock through the window, which was
almost a forewarning that a couple of years later. In
November of twenty twenty two, that car would be stolen.
I was at a Rapo Republican Party election night shindig

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at the Stampede and Aurora and it was stolen while
we were inside there. For forty minutes less than an hour.

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Absolutely wild.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
We had the video too where what they used was
a remote, a remote.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
Repeater device so.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
They could piggyback off my signal of my keyfob in
the building, piggyback off that unlocked the vehicle. Literally, a
car pulls up behind mine in the parking lot, a
guy gets out, light, car lights up.

Speaker 8 (26:56):
Next thing you know, he's inside the car and boom,
he's gone.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Because the next thing that they did, because it was
a key ignition car, was use the USB cord to
punch the ignition and get the car started. It was
recovered a couple weeks later. Needless to say, both of
those cars were Hyundai Tucsons and they were keyed ignition

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and the problem.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
With them is that they did not have.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
The device that prevents that kind of ignition. Oh my goodness,
the why is it escaping me? Hyundai Auto thefts and
why for what is it that that they use or

(27:49):
that they do not have? The ignition cylinder device is
not there in older Hyundai vehicles that are keyed ignition shit,
and so they're able to start in a way push
button does not. So now I have a Hundai with
a push button, and I have other security precautions that

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I take because I love those cars, but yeah, they're
prone to auto theft. So the Colorado Auto Theft Prevention
Authority wants to provide information resources to help owners of
Hyundai at Kia vehicles ward off would be car thieves.
Vehicles using a physical key for operation continue to be

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largely targeted by car thieves across the Denver metro area.
These stolen cars are then used to commit other crimes
engine demobilizer that's the term I was trying to think of.
Commit other crimes across the front range from dangerous driving
to business burglaries. And beyond, preventing auto theft saves more

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than just a car. It makes our entire state safe.
That's because so much of this is involved in other
illegal crimes. They will steal a car and they will
go commit a robbery, or they will use it for
transporting drugs, for selling drugs, moving people, what have you,
for other crimes. All too often Hyundai's and Kias do
not have the engine to mobilizers set up in older

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models or models that don't have the key ignition, and
so they are prone to auto thefts. As I know,
all too well. Take precautions, please, there are plenty of
ways to do that. Make sure you take that initiative
yourself and know also, an RFID bag is a good

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tool to protect your keyfob. It can be a pain,
but you don't want that signal repeater to pick it
up and unlock your car, whether it's a Hyundai or
anything else. Good precaution to have an Yeah, a heck
of an adventure that I had over that couple of
years go figure so much so that Bride Mass from
CNN CBS Colorado did a story on my third auto

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that you just can't make this stuff up. Take precautions, folks,
You'll be better off for it. Trust me. I'm Jimmy
Sangingberger filling in for Mandy Connell. Keep it here, moving along,
fest and steady on KOA. We'll be joined live and
in studio in just a few minutes by Brandon Bryer,

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who is one of the co initiators of Parents Demand
Justice in Denver Public Schools, a group of activists standing
up against the way things are being done, and that
I think is exciting to see more pushback that the
district is getting. And we will hear from Brandon Bryor

(30:49):
in just.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
A few now.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Of course, if you've been listening to me filling in
on the program for the past couple of weeks, you
have heard me talk about the Mike Lindale trial. Now
you have a column out today on that exact topic
and how the trial verdict came about.

Speaker 8 (31:09):
He was in fact found that my pillow.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Guy found liable for defamation, and my column today breaks
that down and Dell talked in circles.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Jury didn't buy it.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
But we have some breaking news out of the Tenth
Circuit Court of Appeals. This from Colorado Politics. The Denver
based federal appeals Court. This is related breaking news, I
should say. On Wednesday uphilled a one thousand dollars per
day sanction against a conservative podcaster who absconded from the
courthouse when he was requested required to sit for a

(31:44):
deposition and instead returned home to record a podcast and
insult the judge. A three judge panel of the US
Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit also concluded Joeltman,
in his attorney Randy Corporate, crossed the line by making
at least one frivolous argument divorced from the facts of

(32:05):
the case. While the panel found Corporate violated the Tenth
Circuits rules, we declined to initiate or order any disciplinary
proceedings against Oltman's appellate council, the panel wrote in an
unusual unsigned statement opinion on June eighteenth, and it went
on to talk about the article goes on to talk

(32:27):
about how this came after the Lindell outcome, and the
whole start of the trial for Lindell comes about because
Eric Komer, former vice president of Dominion, sued Lindell for defamation.
He called him, had called him a trader and a
criminal and other things. But it all began because of

(32:50):
a November twenty twenty podcast where Joe Oltman was on
video on this podcast accusing Komer of all kinds of
things and playing private social media posts that he'd made
on his Facebook that were very anti Trump, very far left,
so on and.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
So forth, and he claimed that.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Coomer was on a call in Antifa phone call or
Antifa zoom call and said that he had made sure
that Trump wouldn't win.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
I made effing sure of it.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
And this was supposedly in late September, and Oltman has
refused to turn over the evidence. This means thousand dollars
a day finds back into effect for Joe Oltman, gonna
owe a ton of money. Will he finally put up
or shut up on this supposed evidence, this supposed call

(33:45):
that has been the focus of so much. I wouldn't
hold my breath, but we'll see what happens. Fascinating story.
Got to dive into it more. This was just breaking
and we'll pick it up on the other side. Brandon
Pryor in studio as we continue, Jimmy sanging Berger here
for Many Connell and KOA.

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Speaker 3 (34:31):
Now for the second hour, Jimmy sanging Burger with you
for Mandy Connell today. And look, I mean I have
been on top of covering Denver Public Schools for years now,
and of course very critical of the district for rampant failures,
whether that is from the school board onto the superintendent

(34:55):
onto excuse me, different policies that are in the district
all across the board and with good reason. In twenty
twenty three, we had the horrifying and tragic shooting inside
East High School where two deans, Wayne Mason and Eric

(35:16):
Sinclair were shot by a seventeen year old student, and
that was during a routine pat down they say for
weapons that awoke. And the shooting death as well of
Luis Garcia a month before outside of East High School.

(35:36):
Both of those events, in particular, galvanized parents who suddenly
recognized something is really a miss with regards to school safety.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
And that fall of.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Twenty twenty three, there was a shake up on the
school board. Three new members replaced three old members, and
the voters sent a very clear message. Now again, after
the superintendent, doctor Allen Morrero, had his contract extended and
greater protections put in place for his job before they

(36:08):
even completed his evaluation using criteria that Morrero himself derived
in January, they gave him this extension and that some
other factors are again galvanizing parents, and this time there's
also an added focus on academics, which is the core,
the crux of what a school district is supposed to do,

(36:30):
providing good quality education for students. I have in studio
with me Brandon Pryor, who is a DPS parent community
activist and co initiator of Parents Demand Justice Parentsdemand Justice
dot org, a group of activists sort of working alongside
others like PA SAG which is focused on school safety

(36:55):
and other parent groups to make change in the district.
And he joins me, Now, good afternoon, Brandon, It's good
to be with you.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Good afternoon, Thanks for having me, Thanks.

Speaker 8 (37:04):
For coming in here.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
So tell me a little bit about sort of your
background in education in DPS and how you got so
fired up to come back in and be very involved
this year with the November off your elections for school
boards heading close to us.

Speaker 13 (37:23):
Yeah, definitely got involved in education as an activist, as
a football coach with the Far Northeast Warriors, and then
progressed through the years, became the founder of a DPS
innovation school, Robert F. Smith Steam Academy, and you know,
have had my own personal battles with DPS which were

(37:47):
really stressful. So I took some time away from activism
to focus on my family and the school. But I
had saw an article a couple of weeks weeks ago
where Alex Marrero was accusing one of our DPS board
members John Young quest of being racist and you know, causing.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Confusion within the district, and.

Speaker 13 (38:13):
That drew my attention and I reached out to John
Young quest my interactions with him did not you know,
they weren't the same as what I was reading, you
know what I mean. So so it kind of you know,
made me upset and so kind of jumped back in
and started familiarizing myself with what was going on, and

(38:37):
that led me to the data that exists inside this
district around proficiencies for all students. And once I saw
how bad it was, it reminded me of why I
got into activism in the first place, and the fire
inside of me was lit.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
So what did it remind you? What was it that
got you into activism originally in the past.

Speaker 13 (39:00):
In the past, it was the inequities that were going
on for black and LATINX students, not only with the
facilities co locations of schools, but the proficiencies and the
achievement gap, the racial achievement gap between white students and
DPS and the black and brown students in DPS, and

(39:22):
it was alarming. And at the time, back in twenty seventeen,
DPS had the third largest achievement gap in the country,
and so that really sparked my interest at the time,
and it hasn't changed much.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
Once I see what's.

Speaker 13 (39:40):
Going on now, after stepping away for about a year
and a half, I come back into it and see
this data and it's actually worse than when I started
fighting for for our.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
It staggering, Brandon Pryor, doesn't it just say so much
when you come back in and you're like, Okay, things
have declined even more than for now. I have to
do something and work with others who are willing to
do something.

Speaker 13 (40:06):
Exactly man, the sense of urgencies there, like our kids
can't wait any longer.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
We don't have.

Speaker 13 (40:13):
Two, three, four or five years for another strategic plan
to try to kick in and hope that it does
what it's supposed to do.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
We need to act now. We need people to know
what's going on and taken interest.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
So in twenty nineteen, the school board passed something called
the Black Excellence Resolution. Tell us what that did and
in your mind what you hoped would be achieved by that,
because as I understand it, you were supportive of that
initiative at the time.

Speaker 13 (40:45):
Yes, definitely supportive of that initiative, and one of the
things that we noticed was the overrepresentation of Black students
in these high stakes discipline When we talk about in
school suspension and out of school suspensions, black students only
represent thirteen percent of the district, but well over twenty

(41:07):
percent twenty five percent of in school and out of
school suspensions, So that was alarming. When we talk about
over representation in special education, also the underrepresentation in AP courses,
IB courses, concurrent enrollment, and things of that nature. So

(41:29):
we wanted to see a change in all of those
things as well as outcomes with proficiencies and graduation rates.
So we wanted to see all of those things improve.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
We wanted.

Speaker 13 (41:42):
Students to feel safe, so when we look at the
safety you know, the student survey, we wanted all those
things to come back in a positive manner and we
haven't seen, you know, any growth in a lot of
these areas.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Brandon prior joining as Parents Demand Justice dot org, when
we look at the Black Excellence Resolution and what happened
after that, that led to at least the mentality from
some school board members and how they interpreted that led
to the removal of school resource officers. The next year
in twenty twenty, and then you had a change to

(42:21):
the discipline matrix that ended up being so far out
of lack that you had an uproar that led to
a revised version with just some i would say, some
modest improvements to that version, but still a lot of
problems to it. Do you believe that in those areas,
for example, that the way in which the district approached

(42:41):
it was just way off base and they should have
done something different, or how do you think they handled
what happened in twenty twenty twenty twenty one in those
policies and the SROs and things along those lines that
got a lot of parents after East High School to go,
what the heck is going on here?

Speaker 9 (43:00):
Right?

Speaker 6 (43:00):
I think that they did not handle it the right way.

Speaker 13 (43:04):
I think a lot of times DPS holds themselves in
such a positive light that they think that they have
all of the answers and they do things to community
instead of doing things with community. And so a lot
of these changes that you saw were done to community.

(43:24):
And I think that you have a lot of quality
thought partners that don't work for the district that they
could utilize to come up with, you know, really good
plans that would include everybody's input so that we could
see a positive outcome.

Speaker 6 (43:43):
Like when you have a an echo chamber and.

Speaker 13 (43:46):
You're talking to yourself and making these decisions, it usually
ends bad.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
One of the standout aspects to this when we talk
about the academic side, has been just that achievement gap.
But also so when you talk across the board, whether
they're white students, black, brown, what have you, students are
being failed in demographic after demographics. So for example, when
we look at the overall totals for DPS in grades

(44:17):
three through eight, just forty point seven percent met or
exceeded English expectations in the most recent data, only thirty
one point two percent proficient in math. When you look
at those marginalized students, black and brown students are about
black and Hispanic to be specific, about twenty four twenty
five percent proficient in English, and in math, just sixteen

(44:40):
and a half percent of black students are proficient. Then,
when you look at high schoolers and you see the
English P SAT and SAT benchmarks, just over half of
students met or exceeded on English, about thirty one percent
proficient in math, and among black students even worse forty

(45:01):
two percent in reading, twenty one percent in math.

Speaker 8 (45:03):
Let's talk about the academics.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Here, Brandon Pryor, because that is patently unacceptable.

Speaker 13 (45:08):
It's unacceptable, it's failing. It's failing by any standard. When
you when your percentage of proficiency is in the teens,
to me, that it's almost criminal, right, Like, this is
a government entity that's supposed to be providing a quality
education for all students, right, regardless of what resolution is

(45:31):
on the books or what promises were made. Like, the
whole function of a school district is to educate the children,
and when they're not doing that, something has to be done.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Seventy nine percent is the historic graduation rate for DPS,
And what stands out to me is one that in
and of itself, I mean maybe for DPS that's a
historic number, but it is hardly worth celebrating when it
is barely over three quarters of students graduating. But when
you also think about how woefully unprepared, according to the

(46:07):
data I shared and other data metrics students are for
career or for continuing their education onto college. How is
it worth the diploma if you're getting that diploma but
you are not prepared for the next step it is.

Speaker 13 (46:23):
It doesn't mean a thing when they're sending kids into
the world with no real education, no viable options, right
is to me is criminal. Man, what's going on? And
we're trying to stay competitive on a global market? How
does that happen? And this isn't the only school district
in the country that operates this way. This is inner

(46:46):
City America, right, This is happening all over America. DPS
is just where we're familiar. And I don't know what
can be done, man. I think that there has to
be some kind of way to figure out how we
pay these board members to do a job. The board
has to be able to hold the superintendent accountable. The

(47:10):
superintendent has to be able to work with the board
and the teachers' union. Yeah, and they all have to
be on the same page to produce a quality outcome.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I got to say the board needs to be willing
to hold the superintendent accountable. When you have a majority
five of the seven school board members vote to extend
Morero's contract when they aren't evaluating until this October his
job performance per the criteria, the metrics that they allowed

(47:42):
him to create.

Speaker 8 (47:43):
Just in this January.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
That shows me they are not willing to hold him accountable,
particularly too and you co authored with former DPS administrator
Jen Holiday and op ed in the Denver Post this
week Denver Public School's educational outcome are still unjust for
black students. And to me, this implicates both the metrics
that are in place that they are ignoring for Marero's

(48:08):
contract extension and which you guys begin your peace with,
which is the twenty twenty two strategic roadmap for the district.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
Take it away definitely man like, I said.

Speaker 13 (48:18):
Alex Morero set out a goal for the district, for himself,
for his team, for black students, LATINX students, and students
with disabilities to have ten percent proficiency increases by twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
This promise was made in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 13 (48:38):
Right, we have one more school year and the proficiencies
have actually gotten worse. Got We've dropped a percentage in proficiency.
I believe it is in math for black students, and
I think we might we're like teetering around the same
percentage for English. So there's been no improvements and with

(49:03):
the current I guess focus, our lack of focus on
improving these numbers, I don't see a way for us
to get to ten percent increase in one year.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
You and I have talked before about the way in
which a lot of this has been a pro academically,
where it's not let's elevate black and brown students so
that they can succeed more, it's let's bring down the
standards so that they can reach those standards, which quite frankly,
to me, seems like a racist approach to governance in

(49:40):
general and to education in specifically.

Speaker 8 (49:43):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 13 (49:45):
I agree one thousand percent. So this ten percent increase
that was that DPS committed to in this strategic roadmap.
Since they have seen and since there has been you know,
outcry that they're they're that we're not going to get
to that increase, the board voted to allow the district

(50:06):
to lower that percentage to a two percent increase, and
that be acceptable. That is extremely racist to me to
lower the standard for a black, brown.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
And it's unacceptable.

Speaker 13 (50:20):
And then we have like you look at that incident incidents,
and then you look at Scott Morrero who will post
on his social media pictures of himself at a Juneteenth parade. No, no, no, no, no, no,
not Scott More, Scott Escerman, Scott board director Scott Essherman

(50:43):
apologies post pictures of himself at a Juneteenth event and
claim that this somehow translate to some some kind of
support for the black community and black students. It's it's
a it's a slap in the face, it's pandering, and
it's not real. And so I think people need to

(51:04):
understand what's really going on. There's a lot of window
dressing going on and a play action play when there's
really no no equity push happening.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
A couple of minutes left with our guest in studio,
Brandon Pryor, Parents Demand Justice dot org. When you look
at the school board and the failure to hold morero
accountable and to really consider and take serious and I'm
talking broad brush. We did see a couple of school
board members, particularly in John young Quist and Kimberlycia, who

(51:36):
voted against extending his contract, and they had I think
very fair reasons for doing so. But if we talk
broadly about the board and their unwillingness and maybe when
you see somebody like Scott Esserman go and pay lip
service as opposed to actually doing the work, to improve
the quality of education. What message do you think that

(51:58):
sends to the people of Denver and what message do
you think needs to be sent to the school board
this fall.

Speaker 13 (52:05):
I think the message that that that's being sent to
Denver is it's kind of like a a mirage, you
know what I mean. They're trying to paint this picture of,
you know, how good DPS is doing, and we see pictures,
we see posts from Morrero and DPS their websites, but

(52:28):
it's not actually that. And I think that I just
really think that more people need to get involved. I
think that more people need to check out our website,
Parents Demand Justice dot org and sign up for regular
updates see how they can get involved. But I just
think that come November, we are going to have to

(52:51):
have a quality slate of candidates to replace these people,
like you said Kimberly Sea John Young quest. I'm proud
of them and for standing up and doing what's right,
but we need more of the same, and I think
we need to be able to count to six and.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
Not just five.

Speaker 8 (53:09):
Final question, We are out of time, so as brief
as you can.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I asked you this when we had a phone conversation
several weeks ago, because I don't see enough black leadership
speaking up and speaking out on what's happening in our
education system in Denver and how far behind black students are.
Why is there not a more outspoken outrage from folks
within the black community.

Speaker 13 (53:33):
Because people who are in position to hear from the
black community, they know how to go into the black
community and find certain leaders and tokenize them, right, I
honestly believe that. And I also believe that a lot

(53:55):
of the other black leaders. There are some black leaders
who are focused in there of arena and so education
might not be that, and they're pushing the needle for
equity in certain spaces like housing, healthcare, and you know,
certain areas like that.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
So that could be it be the thing. But I
just think we need more people to step up, for sure.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Brandon Pryor Parents Demand Justice dot org is the website
really great to have you here today, Thanks for taking.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
Some time, definitely thanks for having me. You can keep
up the good work.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Brandon joining us in studio Jimmy Sangenburger in for Andy Connell.
Don't go anywhere on KOA. Be sure to check out
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(54:53):
Burger is easy. And once again to have you along
for the ride. Lots been going on here five six
sixty nine zero is the koa Common Spirit health text line.
Had a good conversation in the last segment with Brandon Pryor,

(55:17):
who is an activist in DPS and leading now Parents
Demand Justice and there are a couple of texts I
think that are good points that would be great for
a discussion with Brandon Bryer about and with others about
the importance of parental engagement and involvement when it comes to.

Speaker 8 (55:39):
Student achievement.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
But I think you can't dismiss the role of the
school system in and of itself, the school district and
how they are failing. By the way, the gap between
white students and black students is very apparent in DPS,
but white students are doing very poorly as well. I

(56:01):
think there's something on the order about seventy percent of
proficient in English, for example, that is terrible and unacceptable.

Speaker 8 (56:12):
And that is to some extent of course parents.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I mean, one of the big things about parents' rights
is that that means you have the responsibility for your kids, right.
You have to make sure that they are learning, that
they are engaged, that they're doing the tasks that they're
supposed to be doing, so on and so forth, holding
them accountable. But at the same time, if a school
district is showing the data like this, that is a

(56:38):
massive alarm bell showing that there is a failure from
the district to do the job and it is unacceptable. Now,
then there's another text that in essence brings up Asian
students in Asian performance, which, by the way, I should
note is down. Yes, last for the first year that

(57:04):
I've seen in the data, performance of Asian students on
the standardized SEAMASS tests went down. That is something important
to see when we're considering just how bad DPS really is.

Speaker 8 (57:24):
I six six nine zero.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
The text line, if you want to join into the festivities,
is the Trump coalition crumbling? That is a big question
at this moment, because, for example, you have Marjorie Taylor Green,
who was a noted just absolute fan of Donald Trump

(57:45):
extraordinarily like Trump can do no wrong.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
But oh well, how that has changed.

Speaker 7 (57:51):
It's going to fracture it. And it's already fracturing it.
We're seeing it all over online. We're seeing it from people.
I just got back from the grocery store and someone
came up and talked to me about it. And people
are waking up to this.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
They do.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
Do you know what they're thinking about, Matt.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
They were happy that.

Speaker 7 (58:08):
Gas prices were finally coming down, and they were enjoying
the fact that gas was affordable again for their summer vacations.
But yet here they're seen on TV that now we've
got to go fight Iran because Israel said.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
So, and because Israel, because Israel said so. She says,
that's it, that's all it is. Israel said so. So
Trump is just doing the business and the duty that
Israel has given him.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
Really, Marjorie Taylor Green, really he picked the.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Fight and attacked them first.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
And we're being threatened that, oh no, if we don't
go do this, we're going to be bombed out of existence. Well,
the truth is, if we get involved in this war,
we are going to see terror attacks right here on
our homeland because Biden and the Democrats rid our border
open for the past four years.

Speaker 8 (58:58):
Really really, so the.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Threat is from Trump acting as opposed to Trump not acting.
Interesting logic there from Marjorie Taylor Green. But then you
also see the debate that was going on between Tucker
Carlson and Ted Cruz on A Tucker's Show. And we'll

(59:20):
talk about this, I think in the next hour, because
there's a gotcha moment that I just found to be
so stupid. But this divide is very, very noticeable now.
I feel like it's gonna be patched back together, that
there are enough issues.

Speaker 8 (59:38):
With Trump that.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Some of these folks will be able to have a
difference of opinion with him on this and they'll be
all upset, and then eventually they'll come back to it
and agree with Trump on other things and support him again,
kind of like yours. Truly, I voted for President Trump,
but I will criticize him on Trey, on his use

(01:00:02):
of executive power in certain areas, on some of the
way he's handled Russia, and you craine other issues.

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
But that doesn't mean that you just throw the baby
out with the bathwater.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
You take the good, you take the bad, you mix
it up, you call balls and strikes and there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
That's the way it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
If this leads to the crumbling of Trump's coalition, then
his coalition wasn't so strong after all. I'm Jimmy Stangenberger
in for Mandy Connell. It's koa, don't go anywhere. Speaking
of music, my Jimmy Junior Blues Band, we are really
excited to welcome you to some gigs we have lined

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I'll be getting the details up there and Facebook dot
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just search Jimmy Junior Blues Band.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
Coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
On Saturday, July fifth, Independence Day weekend, we will be
out on the patio at in the Zone in Golden
That's going to be absolutely fantastic. They are a tremendous place.
We've been looking to get in there for a while
and are glad to be on the patio at in

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the Zone. I think that's a set is seven to
eleven PM on that Saturday.

Speaker 8 (01:01:27):
Come on out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Then on July twenty seventh, we'll be out in genese
at the Genesee Pub and BBQ performing I think that's
a Sunday and it will be fantastic to get out
to Genesee and play some blues and rock. Then in
September on Labor Day, there's going to be a blues

(01:01:50):
fest at the Genesee Pub and BBQ, and I'm excited
to join other blues bands having some fun playing music
at this festival at Genesee Pub and BBQ. And finally,
last but not least so far lined up October third.
That night we will be playing at Takota Tavern in Parker.

(01:02:13):
Some great gigs coming up, yours truly of course on harmonica,
doing some vocals, and just recently got to go to
the break. But just recently we had in studio, well
Mandy had in studio yours truly, and my bass player,
our bass player for the Jimmy Junior Blues band, Ken Cornell,
as we performed some music live in studio and going

(01:02:34):
to break. Let's tease a little. He brought in his
acoustic guitar for this. It's a little of an old
school blues tune called help Me Another hour up ahead.
As we continue, Jimmy Sangenberger in for Mandy Connell.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
You gotta help me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Lord, I won't do it all by myself.

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
You gotta help me, baby, won't. I won't do it
all by myself.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
No, I won't. If you don't help me, baby, I've
gotta find myself somebody else. I might have to wash it.
I might after so I might have to.

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
I'll leave it, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
But you gotta help me.

Speaker 13 (01:03:49):
Woman.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Maybe I won't do it all by myself. If you
don't help me, baby, I'm gonna have to find.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Myself somebody else.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Let me talk a littit. When I walk, you walk

(01:05:01):
with me?

Speaker 11 (01:05:03):
What you talk to me?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I can't do it all by myself. If you don't
help me, Darling, I've.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Got to find myself somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Let me take us out.

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Can.

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Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
Got way.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Through byrontal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Sad bing third and final hour of Yours Truly Age
Jimmy Sangenberger covering from Mandy Connall. Thanks for being along
for the ride the past several days. Mandy will be
back as I understand and next week after her global
travels a few.

Speaker 8 (01:06:35):
Things I want to get in here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
For one, I find it pretty striking that Tucker Carlson
has the audacity on his show to have a background
that's an artistic drawing of Ronald Reagan given his speech,
because I believe Reagan is rolling over in his grave
every time he hears Tucker Carlson speak these days. And

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there was a real, I thought, absurd, stupid, gotcha moment
where Tucker Carlson was interviewing Ted Cruz about Iran and
got into one of those hell nippicky like, oh, tell
me the demographic details and these little bits and pieces
about Iran?

Speaker 14 (01:07:15):
How many people living around? By the way, I don't
know the population at all. No, I don't know the population.
You don't know the population of the country. You seek
to topple.

Speaker 11 (01:07:26):
How many people living around? Ninety two million?

Speaker 8 (01:07:28):
Okay, yeah, how could you not know that?

Speaker 11 (01:07:32):
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.

Speaker 14 (01:07:35):
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the
overthrow of the government.

Speaker 15 (01:07:39):
Why is it relevant whether it's will because ninety million
or eighty million or a hundred million.

Speaker 14 (01:07:42):
Why is if you don't know anything about the country.

Speaker 15 (01:07:44):
I didn't say I don't know anything about Okay, what's
the ethnic mix of iron?

Speaker 11 (01:07:49):
They are Persians? And what person of that Leshia?

Speaker 14 (01:07:51):
Okay, there's not even you don't know anything about Iran?

Speaker 11 (01:07:55):
So okay, I'm not the Tucker Carlson bird on Iran.

Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
You're a oh my gosh, it's always.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
I've gotten to the point where I can't stand Tucker Carlson,
even down to the way he talks like that. But
he it was one of those stupid gotcha moments, like
why does this really matter? He does know enough. I
found it kind of funny that Ted Cruz tweeted out
a drawing that shows Tucker interviewing Luke Skywalker and asking

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him what's the population of the Death Star? I just
re retweeted that on x my profile there at saying
center saying with an E, not an a center on
x formerly Twitter. But here's the meat and potatoes, the
more substantive little disagreement between Tucker and Cruse.

Speaker 15 (01:08:51):
No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the
one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:56):
Who can't figure out generals.

Speaker 14 (01:09:00):
If they're trying to murder Trump, Yes, because you're not
calling for military strikes against them in retaliation, and if
they carrying out military strikes today, you said Israel was
right with our help.

Speaker 11 (01:09:11):
I've said we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.

Speaker 14 (01:09:14):
Well, this you're breaking news here because the US government
last night denied the National Security Council spokesman Alex Feiffer
denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on
Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.

Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing them. You just said
we were.

Speaker 14 (01:09:29):
We are supporting as you're a senator if you're saying
the United States government is now we're with the run.

Speaker 8 (01:09:34):
Right now, people are listening.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
This is what he said.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
We are supporting Israel and their strikes on Iran, and
he's right, just the weasily way that Tucker Carlson does business.
I'm surprised that Ted Cruz at this point would even
bother going on his show. Why waste the time and
the energy and the breath. Seriously, I think this, though,

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does get to the heart of the divide amongst the
magabase the coalition of Trump.

Speaker 8 (01:10:13):
Is it crumbling?

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Five six six nine zero hour text line for the
koa common spirit health text line. Is it crumbling right now?
Is it crumbling to the point where it can't be
put back together? Humpty dumpty? No longer back together again?
Because I don't think so. I really think that for
the most part, people in this coalition will just continue

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because they like most of what Trump's doing. And right
now there's a little bit of sort of lashing out
more amongst some in his base. Okay, fair enough, But
will this last? Is the question?

Speaker 8 (01:10:54):
And I don't think so. But then again, you never
really know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
This coalition is a loose grouping of a lot of
different people with intersecting interests on certain issues and areas.

Speaker 8 (01:11:09):
There are some who are.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Much more against foreign entanglements. They viewed Trump as the
person for that. Some in the coalition who are all
about illegal immigration, some who are all about trade, or
some combination of those. There are some other issues amongst
the America First magabas. It's sort of like the anti

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Trump is. I mean, you go to these protests, like
the No Kings protests, and the one commonality they have
is they hate Trump. But what are the issues that
they despise most about Trump? What are the policy positions
that they've got. Those are different, Those are all over
the map, those are varied. The commonality was just hating Trump.

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The commonality for the Trump coalition has been Trump seems
like the guy carrying their banner. They love Trump because
they love his brashness. They love his positions on immigration
or on trade or both. They don't like the foreign entanglements,
and so they view Trump as somebody's going to push.

Speaker 8 (01:12:14):
Back against that, so on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
And maybe it's going to continue to last because it's
lasted pretty.

Speaker 8 (01:12:22):
Strongly for him so far.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
We will see where it goes. But in the meantime, Trump,
I think, is doing the right thing. I think he
is following his actual instincts, which is I am president.
I may not like this, but this is the course
of action that I have to take when you're in
that chair. It's not ideal sometimes. But I think he's

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going to be guided by his aversion to a massive war,
ground war, regime change, massive entanglement. He doesn't want to
have another quagmire in the Middle East. I don't see
that happening. And those who were like Nintucker Carlston Camp
are exaggerating what Trump is trying to do here. I
think it's very focused and limited in terms of the objectives.

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If the United States is a big if. If the
United States actually gets involved and sends B fifty two
bombers to take out Iran's underground nuclear.

Speaker 8 (01:13:23):
Facilities, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
I'm Jimmy Sangenberger in for Mandy Connell. As we continue
moving right along, don't go anywhere on KOA.

Speaker 8 (01:13:37):
It has been so great to be with you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Around amid the whirlwind of news, including some breaking news
that came out just a little while ago within the last.

Speaker 8 (01:13:50):
Hour or two. Associated Press. You gotta love the headline.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Supreme Court ok is Tennessee ban on gender affirming care
for kids a setback for transgender rights. Right in the headline,
they call it a setback. The subrif Court on Wednesday
upheld Tennessee's ban on gender affirming care for transgender miners
adjolting setback to transgender rights. The Justice's six to three

(01:14:19):
decisions in a case from Tennessee effectively protects from legal
challenges many efforts by President Donald Trump's Republican administration and
state governments to roll back protections for trans people, among
another twenty six states have laws similar to Tennessee's. By
the way, that is, if I can do basic math,

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twenty seven states that it is a majority of the
states in this country to Justice.

Speaker 8 (01:14:45):
John Roberts wrote for the Conservative.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Majority that the law banning puberty blockers and hormone treatments
for transminers doesn't violate the Constitution's equal Protection clause, which
requires the government to treat similarly situated people the same.
Now let's be clear, this is not the Supreme Court
saying we endorse the policy. This is the US Supreme

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Court saying it is legal under the Constitution for a
state to do this ban.

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
Which I think is the right decision in that respect.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Now, there is a class of parents' rights here to
some extent when you have these laws in place, and
so whether they should be or not, even from a
parent's rights perspective, may or may not be something up
to debate.

Speaker 8 (01:15:35):
I think a lot of experts would point scientists.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
I've enjoy talking with a doctor Travis Morell, as one example,
about the long term permanent impacts of puberty blockers on
kids and how harmful they can be, and just dismissing
that out of hand is wrong. So there's a lot

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to be said for these laws, for sure. But Roberts wrote,
this case carries with it the weight of fierce scientific
and policy debates about the safety, efficacy, and propriety of
medical treatments in an evolving field. The voices in these
debates raise serious or sincere concerns. The implications for all

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are profound. The equal Protection clause does not resolve these disagreements,
nor does it afford us licensed to decide them as
we see best.

Speaker 8 (01:16:31):
That is the key.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
This is a policy disagreement. Is it something the Court
can resolve? No, it is not. And that is what
Roberts was saying here now. In dissent for the Court's
three liberal justices, Justice Sonia Sotomayor read it aloud in

(01:16:53):
the courtroom, and she wrote, quote, by retreating from meaningful
judicial review, exactly where it matters most, the court abandons
transgender children and their families to political whims. In sadness,
I dissent law also limits parents' decision making ability for

(01:17:17):
their children's healthcare, she wrote, I think that is the
wrong view, but she is not in the majority.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I think it is notable real quickly news came out yesterday.
Everybody was talking about how Disney alum Demi Levado well
sharing pictures from her tropical honeymoon with her husband Jordan
Jute sluts Well. I remember, I'm old enough to remember
when Demi Levada was bisexual, then non binary, then pansexual.

Speaker 8 (01:17:53):
Now I think she's none of those and she's married
to a man.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
My point in bringing this up is just to say
that these laws, in the context of these laws, if
a kid makes a life changing, permanent decision regarding puberty
blockers or well, kid makes that decision, debate to be
had if they can even consent to that decision. But
if a kid undergoes a life changing set of puberty

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blockers or surgery, a top surgery, or what have you,
those things are lasting. And if a star like Demi
Lovado can jump from one to the next, to the
next to the next, what does that say about permanently
changing the physical makeup of a child because of how
they say they're feeling. Now, may in some cases there

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are kids that have benefited from these kinds of treatments
or whatever you want to call it. I will grant that,
but you have to look at the bigger picture at
the same time and the lasting implications. But we are
overdue for a break. Fascinating news from the Supreme Court.
Floyd Truheil, author of the book Dexter's Adventures Fossil Fuels
in the Class from a great kid's book on fossil fuels,

(01:19:08):
joins me.

Speaker 8 (01:19:09):
Next to talk about this. Is it controversial?

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Keep it here, Jimmy, and for may koa Jimmy and
for Mandy. Final segment.

Speaker 8 (01:19:18):
It has been a how do we even grant? How
are we at this point?

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
I don't know. Bowie, last, but not least. We'll get
to here in just a moment. My good friend and
the author of a very fun book. Is it a
controversial book?

Speaker 8 (01:19:34):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Maybe some would flutscher Heel will join me. He is
here in studio. I did want to say, we didn't
get to this, but check out the story the Denver Gazette.
Aurora police investigate possible TDA trend de Aragua activity at
apartment complex. No, this is not the apartments we were

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talking about before. This is a new set of apartments.
This is the Chief of Police, Todd Chamberlain. Just yesterday.
As you can see in the video.

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
Again, you have a number of individuals very reminiscent of
what we saw in the past where they are going
up into an apartment complex. This apartment complex is located
on Potomac in the sixth and Potomac area. Feel very
comfortable to say that all these majority of these individuals
involved in this are Venzuhealen or affiliates of the Venza
Whealens who have either been indoctrinated or groomed or brought

(01:20:28):
into it. And again, when you look at that criminal
history of TDA, the way they acted, what they did, it's.

Speaker 8 (01:20:34):
Very consistent with what we see here.

Speaker 9 (01:20:36):
So again my speculation, based on the circumstances, based upon
what we know at this time, is that yes, this
appears to be a TDA or an affiliate TDA involvement.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Again, that is yesterday the chief of police in Aurora,
Todd Chamberlain more details the Denver Gazette, where, of course
I write twice weekly Aurora police investigate possible TDA activity
at a apartment complex. Let's shift gears though. This is
I am so excited he's finally getting this. Rolling Floucher

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hero has been a friend of mine for many years,
and I've been aware of this book project for well
since the beginning.

Speaker 8 (01:21:15):
I had an early copy in I think twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
The book I have in my hands is entitled Dexter's
Adventures Fossil Fuels in the Classroom the ABC's of Fossil Fuels.
It is truly a beautiful book, multi colored. Its author FLOUDS.
Trehio joining me here in studio on Koa brother, good afternoon, Welcome,

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it's been a while.

Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
How you been.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Yeah, well you didn't do it good. I've listened to you,
so you're doing good. Yea, thank you, Ed.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
I appreciate it and I am excited for this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Let's just talk first before we get into the book,
just very briefly, in a nutshell, you have an extensive
background in the let's call it fossil fuel industry. You're
taking that experience into this fun book. We'll get to
the book in a moment. What's your experience and background
in this industry.

Speaker 8 (01:22:05):
On oil and gas.

Speaker 16 (01:22:06):
I entered the industry back in nineteen seventy seven, after
spending three years in the marine corpse. I entered it
at the age of twenty one years old. Twenty years
old actually, and went up the ranks and just had
a great time. Spent seventeen years with a company called
Evergreen Resources, and they developed the red home base and
a coubette feel down by a trade out of Colorado.

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A great organization, great company. The industry itself is a
lot of good people in it. So it'sn't been a
great ride. It's been forty years in the industry.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
And so this book is an educational book for kids
about what, if you put it in a nutshell, what's
the purpose of fossil fuels in the classroom.

Speaker 16 (01:22:45):
Well, the purpose, of course, some kids learned the alphabet
the AA through Z, but from my experience from where
I come from, it's to educate the kids on the
benefits of oil and gas around them. People don't realize
that everything around you is only gas based. You know,
you have kids that are being taught that foss fields
are evil. But at the same time we're just talking
to cell phone or just a e in candy out

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of rapper that's made with with with fossil fuels. So
everything is based on oil and gas. So the whole
concept is to educate people on the beniculo oil and gas. Now,
of course it's easier to start education when when they
are at a younger age versus trying to convince someone
in their twenties or thirties have been fed.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
The proper closed off.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Absolutely, you know.

Speaker 16 (01:23:24):
So that's you know, there's a lot of good folks
out there, Chris Wright for example, Colorado. So so they're
all very good at educating people, but they're talking to
folks that are, you know, in college ages and above.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
I'm trying to reach them when they're where they're younger,
with have an open mind.

Speaker 8 (01:23:42):
It is a full colored book.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
It has amazing artistic drawings, and every single letter has
different things that are made of fossil fuels in some capacity.
I mean I just opened up to the letter d desk,
drum door, you look at sea crans, clips.

Speaker 8 (01:24:02):
Shock, clock, all of these things.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
When we think of oil and gasoloid, we usually we
just think about we're going to the gas station. We
got to get some gas to fuel our car, or
we think about natural gas to heat our homes.

Speaker 8 (01:24:16):
This goes well beyond that, doesn't it. He goes from
the very beginning.

Speaker 16 (01:24:19):
As I spoke earlier, It's like I'll ask people name
me an industry that survives without wooler natural gas.

Speaker 8 (01:24:26):
You name me one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
I can't. I'm asking you. You don't ask I'm asking you.
I cannot honestly because I well, particularly because I have
this book in front of me that shows all of
these different industries.

Speaker 8 (01:24:37):
I mean water, the water industry.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Tell me, how do you how does it get transported?

Speaker 16 (01:24:43):
Okay about the pipe that you use to transport A
matter of fact, you might in my yard, I have
a sprinter system made of PVC pipe, which made from
fossil fuels. There you go, the mechanics, the electronics, it's
all foss field based.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Let's talk about some of those wanna be hippies, the
cop kids that might go to a protest and they've
got their iPhones with them and they say, let's get
rid of oil and gas because of climate change, while
carrying their iPhones to film the protest.

Speaker 16 (01:25:12):
Well, I was at a Boulder event here a few
years back, and to talk about what they wanted to
ban drilling or fossil fuels and Boulder, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
So go in the.

Speaker 16 (01:25:21):
Courtroom outside, there's some parents with their little kids. They
little five six yearld kids with it with it with
the magic markers, protesting against against fossil fuels. It's like,
what's the magic market made out of? Same concept? Everything's
on gas pig. How about if you're a protester, you
go out of the protest and you got a tattoo
with that petroleum, with the clothes, you're wearing everything, your glasses,

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you know, you're everything on usual.

Speaker 8 (01:25:44):
You have the letters C.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Since I opened up to this page, I noticed in
the bottom A. First of all, you have a picture
of the family in a cave around a fire, looking
all cold, and it's labeled a home without fossil fuels.

Speaker 8 (01:25:58):
Explain that at the bottom of each page.

Speaker 16 (01:26:01):
What what I do is is first we we show
the ABC's things made from fossil fuels in the classroom.
Then the bottom of each page we also show the
items in the adventures that Dexter goes through that are
made from fossil fuels.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
So in this one's see the letter S.

Speaker 16 (01:26:14):
It's a caveman scene and it's a home to the
fossil fuels, and this is where you'd be without fossil
fuels in a home zero.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
There's nothing out there. It's just just a cave with
with some firewood and fire going on, you know, so
it says dark and cold red for the sea word
cold as Dad stokes the crackling also read fire with
his hand as a fan. Without fossil fuels, we would
live our lives like the shivering cave man. And then

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of course lisz Krans clips chalk clock as different items
that begin with the letter C that are made with
fossil fuels in that process.

Speaker 8 (01:26:56):
Absolutely, So let's talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Dexter for a moment. And I know this is very
near and dear to your heart. When you look the
title of the book Dexter's Adventures Fossil Fuels in the classroom,
the ABC's of Fossil Fuels, and you have right on
the cover a beautiful drawing of a dog named Dexter.

Speaker 16 (01:27:15):
Put it said through the book as we's doing. Yeah,
so talk to us about Dexter. Matter of fact, I
got Dexter in two thousand and three, I believe it was.
It was anyway, I used to have a dog, big,
big masculine dog, quo mix, you know, and you have
dog for three years and my wife got me this
little dog for Father's Day.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Is a Father's Day gift.

Speaker 8 (01:27:37):
I was like, what kind of dog.

Speaker 16 (01:27:39):
King Charles Kevlar, I was like a sissy dog, come on,
you know, but just just broke my heart. Just just
just a great little dog. So we actually went through
this whole cross for eleven years. He passed away July
of last year. You know, he had a little heartish,
you know. But it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
But and I met Dexter on multiple occasions, a very sweet,
as you said, fun dog.

Speaker 8 (01:28:01):
And he provided you inspiration.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
What was it because you know a lot of times
for writers, for authors, for artists, what have you, you
have an inspiration in this case, your dog.

Speaker 8 (01:28:12):
Dexter provided that sort of impetus for the book.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
How did you come up with the concept for the
book and to make Dexter this central feature where throughout
the book in every scene, there he is. Where's Dexter
here while he's with the cats fighting over his water bowl,
or right here he is on the motorcycle driving in
the passenger seat.

Speaker 16 (01:28:33):
The only thing about Dexter is is that the inspiration
though this goes back years, you know, being ol and
gas was being demonized, so would be the bad guys.
So the concept of the book has been there for
a decade or so. But then Dester came along and
it just kind of fell into place. And it's funny
because when you when the project first started, trying to
find people to say, well, you know, this is kind

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of dumb. It's kind of I don't understand how this
would work, you know, But over time people realize that
there was a benefit of this book and teaching educating
kids about oil and gas. So and Deshall was there
the entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:29:03):
It's you know, when you feel down and you're trying
to get some inspiration. You know, I just think little
Dextri was there.

Speaker 6 (01:29:09):
For it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
So he was fun. We're enjoy it.

Speaker 16 (01:29:11):
But right now we're actually looking for another king, Charles Cavalier.
His name will be DJ for Dexter Junior, because we
need him to go with us on a little book
tour to go out there to educate kids about oil
and gas. And it's fun to be able to like
the books and you have the bikes and you have motorcycles.
Scene to pull up in that scene and authentic with
an actual honta aff between motorcycles sidecar with a dog

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in the seat. You know, see, it'll be a lot
of funs gets enrolling, you know, so the kids are
gonna love it.

Speaker 8 (01:29:38):
That's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
It really is a beautiful book. Dexter's Adventures dot Com.
We're going to talk a little bit more about it.
But our text line KOA Commics Beard Health text Line
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and this is going to be the new edition that
we'll be coming out in a month.

Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
Talk to us about rack.

Speaker 16 (01:30:54):
Yeah, we had some books supposed to thrive tomorrow the nineteenth.
Well we had an issue with with with the printers.
Up another thirty days, we'll have the actual book in hand,
the edited version ready to roll for the public.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Five six six nine zero is the text line. Just
text dexter and your name, Dexter and your name to
that number to get your copy sent to you from
Floyd True here.

Speaker 8 (01:31:20):
Now, Floyd, let's talk about here in terms.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Of the book, what do you hope to achieve? And
talk to us for a moment about some of the
partnerships that you are forging. Because I noticed that this
motorcycle has the Honda logo.

Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
It's a logo on it, So talk to us about
some of these partnerships.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
It does well.

Speaker 16 (01:31:37):
I reached out to to a number of motorcycer companies
to for the scene, and reached out to American Honta
company and within a week I'm talking to their attorney and.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
The whole concept is too did you basically just just
get some some some folks out there that'll give some
credibility to the book.

Speaker 16 (01:31:52):
So I reached out and they had to have a
copy that I gave a copy that liked it, so
they gave me permission to use the book.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
So it gives them a little bit of credit abilities.

Speaker 16 (01:32:00):
We're trying to accomplish here, which is to educate people
but oil and gas and help them.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
With their reading process. But also we have six colleges
that allow us to use their logo on the back
of the book.

Speaker 16 (01:32:12):
We have twenty six prehistoric personalized animals back there, and
sixth of them are one of the caps or helmets
of the logos.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
From these colleges.

Speaker 16 (01:32:24):
You have carl School of Mines, Niversity of Oklahoma, Texas
Tech Texas, A and M, University of Texas in Austin,
and also the University of Saint Thomas in Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
So it was great to have to send them these.

Speaker 16 (01:32:36):
Copies and to get their permission to use their logos
in the book.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
We have all of our winners that have been texting
in congratulations again third, fifth, seventh, ninth, eleventh texters. And
I'm not going to be able to go through the
list because one thing that happens is the text it
just keeps changing. But you will hear from Grain five six, six,

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nine zero if you want to comment about the book
and offer thoughts what I like about this and why
I wanted you have you on Floyd is First of all,
Dexter's Adventures dot Com is the website is because I've
been waiting with baited bread for a long time, like
when is this book going to be rolled out? It's
a very you know, you have a lot of moving
parts in this Is there anything else you want to

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talk about with the book or with the fossil fuel
industry and the misunderstandings what have you before we let
you go.

Speaker 16 (01:33:29):
The one thing we do with the book is is
that what we're gonna do is we're going to donate
one hundred percent of the proceeds of the book sales
to to charity.

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
We actually have.

Speaker 16 (01:33:38):
Six charities and two schools and I'll reaset those at
a later date where you can actually get online and
actually dictator or you don't think your donation to go to.
But also we've reached out to a lot of folks
have this book. Chris Wright the Intersectory has copy of
the book. Mandy Connall has a copy, you have what's
your name? Alex Epstein has a copy. There's a lot

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of people that have the book right now. So we're
just trying to get it out there into the general public.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
And I love that you're also trying to get it
into school libraries and more right, yeah, we actually have
and I can't mess the name right now.

Speaker 16 (01:34:11):
We have one national organization that we're working with to
get this book out through a nationwide We have a
couple of school districts we're talking to and again trying
to change the narrative with the school system that has
deemed this product evil and all of a sudden, it's good.
It's kind of it's a change, you know, So it'll
take a little while to get into school system.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
I believe one thing that I will read from the
front page in nineteen hundred, the life expectancy of an
individual in the United States for forty nine years. Today,
one hundred and twenty years later, it is now seventy
nine years. The additional thirty years of life can be
directly linked to research and the breakthroughs in science and
medicine which would not have been possible without fossil fuels.

Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
Ain't that the truth, you tell me? Yes, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
It's remarkable. I mean, these are the things that people
don't know or understand. And you're not only doing a
service here, you are teaching kids about something in a
very fun way as I look through the book and
everything in it, from the illustrations to having your family
as sort of a part of it without or or
throughout the book, and the different stories you have different

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members of your family that pop up, and that's really fun.

Speaker 16 (01:35:24):
Good work, Floyd. Thank you, sir, Floyd thrugh Hel. I'll
get you cup of the book when they came into
the new version, beautiful.

Speaker 8 (01:35:29):
I look forward to the new one.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Dexter's Adventures dot com is the website the author, Floyd Trho,
Thanks brother, thank you, Jimmy take here once again, Floyd
Trho joining us. That is it for me today. I
do want to note, by the way, I am excited
to be speaking at the Summit County Independence Roundup for
the twenty twenty five Lincoln Day Dinner of the Summit
County Republican Party the SUMMITGP dot org. If you want

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to go check it out. They're gonna have live country music.
Maybe I'll finagle my way into play in a little
harmonica with the band in sitting in and sitting in.
I will be the featured speaker. They're rounding up independence, libertarians, Republicans,
and other right leaning folks, and I am excited to
be there and to speak, and also to see the

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country band Brian Brooks's Sundown Rising the SUMMITGP dot org
check it out.

Speaker 8 (01:36:22):
That is it for me today. I thank you for
being along for the ride.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Mandy will be back in next week and as I
always like to close, May God bless America.