06-20-25 FULL SHOW - Gregg Stone Fills In

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
Accident and injury lawyers.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Nine a m God promise Mandy, and I'm just back
from my surgery.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Hey it's Greg Stone, formerly known as Uncle Nasty. How
are you?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
They told me I had to say that so people
would know who I was. But I wasn't just some
bum They pulled off the street because where is everybody?
I pulled up in the parking lot and nobody's here.
Are you gonna help me all with that? Are you're
just gonna leave me hanging?

Speaker 5 (00:39):
Apparently the sales team had a goal, so they got
today off all right, thanks Grant, and they had the
holiday yesterday.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's pathetic. There's like five people that work here without salespeople.
At least we got the shady spots right exactly. I
pulled out like, whooh this looks nice.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I got to make a comment.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
About my Talica at Red Rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Okay, so somebody sent us a text and they said
I saw Metallica on eighty seven at Red Rocks.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
That is incorrect. You did not.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
They did not play eighty seven, but they did play
a couple of times at Red Rocks. They played in
eighty three and there was a big riot afterwards, so
they were banned.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Okay, I didn't move to Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Till nineteen ninety, so that's my excuse. And then they
returned and did I think two sold out nights at
Red Rocks in nineteen eighty nine. So Metallica is coming
next weekend. That's Friday the twenty seventh and Sunday the
twenty ninth. It's say No Repeat, M seventy two Metallica weekend.
It's going to be crazy, it's going to be sick.
They got different opening acts, the set lists are going

(01:41):
to be different. And we have tickets here on KOA
to give away later on in the show, and I'm
also giving away tickets on one oh three five The Fox,
so when I'm done here, you'll hear me on the Fox.
So I'm just like just doing everything I can make
my mortgage payment, and that's what we're going to be
talking about today. We got this notice in the mail

(02:02):
from my mortgage banker saying that my escrow is going
to go up some sixty three percent. Sixty three percent.
I'm like, what, how is that happening? You know with
I just received my my uh my paperwork for devaluation
from the County of a Rappa hole. They're saying that
my house is worse, is worth less than it was.

(02:24):
And I'm like, all right, well maybe I'm gonna get
a tax break. But then I'm reading, Hey, what's going
to happen, uh with all the all of our programs,
with all of our our things that we need, the
police force, the fire department, the E M T. Schools, libraries,
stuff like that, you know, clean water, what's going to
happen with that?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
With that shortfall?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Since sales tax is down too, so where is all
this money going to come from? If they devalue everybody's property,
that means technically my property taxes should go down.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well that's may not be the case.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
So we're going to tie to some people about that
coming up here on the program today. Somebody writes in
he text me, why were you called uncle nasty? Because
I had an awful disposition. Okay, I get drunk, I
do lots of cocaine, I'd get in fights, sleep with
questionable women, all types of stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
So that's why, Okay, mystery over.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
We're also going to talk about you know why my
homeowner's insurance is going up. I've never filed. I don't
live in a fire zone, and now my homeowner's insurance
is going up. That's why my my ass girl, that's
why I got that that notice from my mortgage banker,
is because my property insurance is going up, going through

(03:44):
the roof. We're going to talk to some people about that.
We're also going to talk to Marty Richardson. He is
the head of Dog Nation, which is a great hockey charity.
Dog Bowl is going on out at the Edge this weekend,
and we're going to talk to him about that.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And there's gonna be a lot of alumni playing too.
I know that Milan Hayduk, who's gonna be out there.
There'll be some du alumni, some Colorado College alumni, Eagles alumni,
some other Avalanche players will be there as well.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
So and then a ton of Beer leaguers of course.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And they do great stuff for people with head injuries
and and uh, stuff like that cancer, not just hockey players,
but military folks and and all types of of individuals
that are suffering from all types of different debilitating things.
So the money that they give is substantial and they
do great things and so I can't wait to talk
to Marty about that. I think I'm gonna play tomorrow too.

(04:37):
Uh there's blind hockey. Okay, that's a thing. So it's
like this big, huge puck and they got like a
cow bell inside of it, and everyone that has you know,
sort of normal vision will be given glasses that will
recreate some sort of debilitating uh you know, visual things.
So like I'm gonna have cataracts tomorrow, I'm gonna wear

(04:59):
glasses that would you know, uh, replicate cataracts. So I'm
gonna get out there and skate with cataracts with some
of these great blind hockey players, legally blind hockey players.
And I did a like a coaching thing with that
years ago, and uh, let me tell you that's that's

(05:20):
it's you take your eyesight away from any sport and
you're like, what and just to have people, you know,
to be able to develop other parts of your you know,
your senses, to be able to play that game that
moves that fast and you know you got to shoot
it into a net if you can't see the net.
How's that happened? And goaltenders? Thank goodness, there's a cow
bell in it. Uh you just be here in air.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
So that's what I got going on for you here today.
Plus uh you know, you know, I think I'm.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
A good dad.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I try to be a good dad. We're gonna call
my uh my girlfriend. I did something questionable on Father's Day.
You know, my youngest son, he's twenty two. He put
together the whole dinner and everything, and he didn't get
to make it. And then my girl during the dinner
had to get up and leave because it's something that
I did. So I'd have to share that with you

(06:18):
coming up. And then I came across this challenge, this
health challenge that if you're between the ages of was
it forty five and seventy six, I think is what
they said, you should be able to do this unless
you have knee, hip or back problems. And I'm like,
that's everybody in that age group. What are you talking about.

(06:41):
You're supposed to be able to cross your legs standing,
sit down on your butt onto the carpet, and then
stand back up without you know, using any assistance. No, no, Grant,
we had you do that earlier as I was explaining it,
and Grant pulled it off.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
It was hard, though, but you're what thirty five? Yeah, okay,
so I got at least ten years. I'm at least
going to make it to forty five according to this study.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well you know you're going to live a long life.
You got to do it when you're forty five, so
you know, I don't give up on that core. Okay,
keep working out. And then Ross just did it too,
and he's he's my age. He's a little older actually,
so I'm fifty eight. And that's funny, just popped up.
You know, I got the whole tweet text whatever this is?

(07:29):
What is Is this the tweet deck or is this
the text deck the Common Spirits health text line? Thank you,
somebody writes, Grant, keep your finger near the dump button.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Well, once you started the show talking about doing cocaine
and sleeping with questionable women, Well I was already ready.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
So those are the dates I'll be.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'll be alcohol in narcotic free for twenty years in August.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Congratulations. So I'm not looking for that.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
My brother is eight years sober, so good for him.
So I'm sure he hates hearing that. Congratulations. Congratulations.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
You know it's a congratulations big feet. Oh you had
a big problem, right, but you corrected that problem.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
You do work on it.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
You you try to, you know, realign yourself, get back
on the right path. And then somebody tells you congratulations, Hey,
you're no longer a loser about that?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Hey, put your hand together, all right?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
So, hey, I want to try to do this, this
this cross legged health challenge here?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Sure, sure you know?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Should we? Uh? Should we put it on online?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Should I?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Are you going to video yourself?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Video?

Speaker 7 (08:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Why don't you come in? Come on in here, grant
all right, So feel free to try this at home.
So if you're forty five, between the ages of forty
five and seventy six, and you don't have knee, back
or hip problems, you should be able to do this.
And if you can't, they say you're going to be
dead in ten years. And who are they?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
All right, Okay, here we go. So now just to
let you know that I've got two fake hips. So
I had bilateral here replacement in twenty fourteen, So that's
my excuse. I don't feel like I'm gonna die, but
you never know, right, all right, So I crossed my
legs and I'm supposed.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
To go all the way down.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
There's this zone I get to where I'm about eight
to ten inches off the floor, and if I go
any further I fall.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
You'll be able to see that here.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
So.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Old man see and then.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
And then you're supposed to be able to come back
up and I already know I can't do that to
me grant all right, So and if you need to,
you start off with ten points, and if you need assistance,

(09:58):
then that's minus a point.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
If you want, that's half a point.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And I figure, what what did I lose there?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Close to two points? Would you say that?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Okay? So that's an eight. So it says that I'm
going to be according to the scale, I'm gonna be
okay eight or better. You're in pretty good shape if
you're between those ages of forty five and uh in
seventy six. But if you can't do it and you're
younger than forty five, man, you are in a world
of hurt. Thirty five years sober. Somebody checks in, look

(10:29):
at that you mentioned sobriety, and everybody joins in, that's great,
it really is.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
You know, there's so many things that that you miss
that you you know, you don't say the right thing,
you don't do the right thing.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
I can't tell you how much better I feel. My
life is a lot more rewarding. I enjoy every minute.
You know. It's the best part about being sober is that,
well I'm technically you know, I just don't do narcotics
and alcohol every now and then.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
You know, the Devil's lettuce is on my plate, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I feel like I had a big, you know,
a big deal the Uncle Nashi show back in the
day in two thousand. We helped with medicinal marijuana becoming legalized.
We helped in twenty fourteen getting recreational legalized. But I
find myself not smoking nearly as much as I used to,
and that kind of leads up to that story on

(11:31):
Father's Day. I'm gonna save that story, though I I
don't want to, you know, shoot it all right now,
you know, teas and the best.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Keeping you hanging on along with those Metallica tickets.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
You're gonna sit through all of this because you don't know,
I could just go crazy with Metallica tickets at any moment.
And just start freaking out going. You're a winner. You're
just like Uncle Oprah. Everybody's a winner. Lots of people
chiming in on sobriety. Here's somebody talking about the cross
leg challenge. I'm forty six. I can do this challenge.

(12:05):
I had to knee reconstruction and a trash back. Well
you're forty six, you're supposed to be able to do it.
Oh no, I said forty five. To look at me,
I'm already changing the rules. Well, congratulations, sir, I'm glad
that you could do it. I retract that derogatory statement.
I'm happy for you. Somebody chimes in, I'm fifty six
and I can do it, so well, good for all

(12:27):
of you.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Everybody. Will you be at my funeral?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Then in ten years, everybody that could do it please
show up, and that can be the theme of my funeral.
Everybody will be doing the cross legged health challenge to
make sure they don't end up in a box like
the Runkle.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
I feel like Colorado has got to have a higher
percentage of people that can do it than other states, though, right,
because we're such a healthy, active state already.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
True true, And like I said, if you have back, knee,
or hip issues. You may have difficulty doing this the
old that you are. And that's okay because according to
the people that came up with this health challenge, you
probably shouldn't be doing it.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
It might kill you.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
So, uh, we've got the health challenge something you might
want to try at home. Maybe at a gathering this weekend,
a barbecue in the backyard. Just go hey, I was
listening to k Away and you know, I heard this
guy named Greg Stone talking about this health challenge. And
then you can just get you know, put a couple

(13:34):
of drinks into everybody and see if they can do it.
It's a new party game. Now, Lember up a little bit. Yeah,
that's what I should have done. I needed to stretch
before I came in here. Maybe get on a stationary
bike some more movement. This just came in. I love
the You can call too, by the way, if you
want to chat. Three O three seven one three eighty

(13:55):
five eighty five. That's three oh three seven one three
eighty five eighty five. We're waiting on on Toby Domis
from the Douglas County Possessor's Office. He's going to call
us here in a little bit. We're gonna talk about
property taxes. Somebody chimes in, They say, Greg, gambling is
just as bad as drugs and alcohol. In July, i'll

(14:15):
be two years financially sober. Well, good for you. Yeah,
gambling is is pretty bad. That is an addiction. It
triggers the same the same things in your brain.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
That's three oh three seven one three eighty five eighty five.
If you want to chat about your sobriety, or if
you can do the cross leg challenge, we'll hear from
you too, Or if you've got a great Metallica story,
I'd love to hear from you as well. Toby's ready.
We got Toby on the phone. That's hey, when's break?
Break's coming up? Isn't it at twenty five? Okay, so

(14:51):
go ahead and bring Toby up. Toby, I'm here, Hey buddy,
how are you?

Speaker 8 (14:57):
I'm very good.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
How are you today? I'm well?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Toby dominised from the Douglas County Assessor's Office. He is
an elected official, and I appreciate you coming on the
show and talking to me about property taxes. Yesterday, when
I talked to you, I was like, I can't believe
this is happening. I mean, I don't really understand they're
going to be able to devalue everybody's property and then

(15:19):
you know, meet budget, and especially since we've got municipalities
talking about sales tax shortfalls. Toby, So, I want to
thank Susie Wargen for connecting us. She's a great person.
I love Susie to death. And talking to you for
twenty minutes twenty five minutes yesterday, I learned a lot
and I know you and I are going to be

(15:40):
reiterating some of that conversation today, but let's just talk
about devaluation and how that works and if we really
will be getting a discount on our property taxes.

Speaker 9 (15:53):
Yeah, what's happened so far? First of all, thank you
for having me on. I appreciate doing it, Rashine being
here in love Koa and the show. Every county assess
or sent on a notice this past May one called
a notice of value, and we do that every two
years for every odd year, and it's called a reappraisal,
and you mentioned it. What's interesting about this one, because

(16:16):
this only happens once a generation, is there were a
whole lot of home values, instead of going up, went down.
And if you look at Douglas County as an example,
the average value change for our one hundred and thirty
thousand homes or so was negative three and a half percent.
And if you look at up and down the front range,

(16:38):
a lot of similar stuff. You had some positive one
percent negative two, but you know a lot of flat values.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
So not everyone went down.

Speaker 9 (16:45):
But if I had a guess, I would guess more
than half of the homeowners in a front range received
decreases like you did. And I get up the mountains,
it might be a little different, but most of Colorado
was that way, and it's going to create some challenges.
There's no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Now, Toby, this is because of everything going through the
roof during COVID or just right after COVID, the ridiculous
home prices.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
Yeah, you got it. So if we go back a
little bit, I'm sure all your listeners remember we had
a reappraisal on twenty three and it was the opposite story.
Then we had value increases of four thirty forty sixty
percent in the mountains. Those value increases were seventy eighty
ninety percent on homes. It was incredible. That was a
once in a generation thing too. But because that happened,

(17:32):
so fair and that and by the way, those values
are reflective of the real estate market. Basically, the affessors
are required to appraise your property using market data, and
so our value should be reflective of the real estate market.
What happened before the twenty three reappraisal was that COVID
related real estate spike, and it went up so much
it had no more room. And you were touching on

(17:54):
this at the beginning of your at the beginning of
your show. You know, we got all these other things
going up, not just taxes, but insurance and lots of
other stuff and interest rates, and all of a sudden,
the market just stopped. From a price point of view,
they just halt to know. We have some neighborhoods still
going up, that's going down, but it's pretty soft, and

(18:15):
it doesn't feel like it's getting better. It actually feels
like it's getting worse. Kind of anecdotal.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, So technically, aren't we supposed to receive a smaller
tax bill for our property taxes?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
I mean, wouldn't that be what you would think?

Speaker 9 (18:27):
Okay, So the private textes are so hard in Colorado,
they're so complicated, and frankly, the General Assembly in the
past couple years have just made it worse. You can't understand.
You literally got to call your county assessor to have
a clue that's how it works. But you received evaluation
this may and that will be used to calculate taxes
your next bill, which is in January up next year. Okay,

(18:51):
so all of us homeowners received big tax increases the
past two years. Now we're waiting to see what happens
in January. But a lot happens between now and then. Basically,
what happens is the tax rate gets determined. So all
the local authorities throughout the state of Colorado, your water districts,
your fire districts. This fall they have to calculate their levees,

(19:11):
which is the tax rate. And this is where the
rubber meets the road. This is where we find out
that they're going to raise their rates, are they going
to lower them? Will these lower values result in a
lower tax bill in January. We're not going to know
until later on.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I just don't see how they're going to be able
to do that. How are they going to be able
to fund everything without your property taxes? Because I mean,
didn't they do their budget based on what your property
tax was in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
They did for the past two years, but now they're
looking at a new assessment, this twenty twenty five reappraisal,
you know, And what's happening in the next few weeks
is my office. And by the way, this operates the
same throughout the state of Colorado. So what I'm talking
about is not Douglas County. It is Colorado white all right.

(20:05):
Now you go out of the boundaries of Colorado, and
then the difference private Texas differ tremendously from state to state,
but in Colorado it all works this way. So this fall,
every assessor will be reporting to each one of these
local governments, your city, your county, your fire district, what
the value did in total in their neighborhood. We're all
working on our budgets right now. The conversations are getting started,

(20:28):
you know, the county manager and the city manager and
the fire chief. They're saying, what am I going to
need for next year? Do I need this road improved,
Do I need another police officer, Do I need another
fire fire station? And so on. They're having those conversations
now the boards like your county commissioners and your city
council are asking these these staff inside the jurisdictions, what

(20:52):
are you guys going to need? And they're getting those
answers slowly coming in. As we get into August and September,
they're going to have to start making decisions. And I'm
going to tell you we're going to start hearing this
fall about problems. We're going to start hearing about problems
because you're right, you mentioned it earlier. Sales taxes are down,
property assessments are flat or down, and all of a sudden,

(21:16):
all this inflation that's hit you know, the cost of
fire trucks and the cost of building a road is
still happening on government, and you're going to hear talk
about this.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
We're going to figure out how to pay for this
eight real quick, Toby, I want you to stick around.
We're going to take a break and we're going to
come back and we're going to talk more about this
shortfall or potential shortfall and what potentially counties and municipalities could.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Do about it. That's what we'll talk about next here.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
As I feel in for Mandy on Koa, we're talking
about the valuation of property taxes for a lot of people,
not everybody in the state, but for a lot of people,
that value is dropping. And I want to thank Toby
for coming on the show. I got this text Toby.
Somebody says that his name is Steve. He lives in

(22:04):
a Rapahoe County. He says he received two property tax
assessments from the county, both reduced from the last time,
but two different valuations. The last one is higher and
no explanation for the increase, plus no comps. He's wondering
if any other people have experienced anything like that, And
have you heard from anybody Toby about.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Something like that.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
I have not, and that is a typical So if
I were him now, they could be reasons for that,
but I don't want to speculate. So what he needs
to do is call his local assessor. Sounds like that
are rapa ho and all the assessors have public assistance lines.
So if anyone, if any of your listeners have proper
text questions, you can call your local assessor. They are

(22:47):
used to answering the phone and being asked questions, so
this is one of those cases. He just needs to
call them directly and see what's going on. I'm sure
they've been in the answer for him.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
So let's talk about what municipalities are going to do,
because you know we were talking and yesterday you said
that the county they collect the money and then they
give the money to the municipalities for them to fill,
you know, all these budgets for these things that we
want and need, you know, like the fire department, the
police department, libraries, clean water, stuff like that. So what

(23:19):
do we do? What do we do about this shortfall?
How are we going to get this money? Are they
going to come back on us. Are they going to say, no,
we're not going to give you that devaluation, You're going
to continue to pay what you were paying for your
property tax?

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Or are they going to come up with some form
of taxation that we're going to have to approve.

Speaker 9 (23:37):
Yeah, you got it. Well, before I get to that,
I've got to mention this. I was just sent a
data update from one of my staff real estate market
updates for May of twenty five, and I'm looking at
this between this year and last year, we've got Douglas
County down over two percent, Denver County down more than

(23:57):
four percent. Is real estate current real estate market all right,
Larimer County down four point six, Summit down twelve, Teller
down ten. Who else is on here? Guess h Egle
down five. They'll pass down one. There is a couple
of bright spots, Albert County as one. So what this means,

(24:18):
this is important to your question, is that this is
going to continue. So it's not just this year, like
next year, this year's budget for next year or the
year after that. Now, if this continues, we're looking at
this issue, to your question, the next four or five years.
And it's not just going to it's just going to
start now, and we're going to be hearing about it
for a while because our value, the assessions valuations are

(24:43):
are old, right, and then taxes are in arrears, and
so this is an issue that's going to you know,
continue for a while. So to your question, you know,
I mean the governments, the cities and the counties, they've
got choices, all right, not a lot. They could cut
their budget or they could ask the citizens for more money.

(25:06):
And if we think about how that can happen, there's
three prongs of taxation, all right. There's income tax, which
generally is federal on state, local, is usually property tax
and or cities. It's interesting that most of the cities
in Colorado get mostly revenue from sales tax and all
the other governments get mostly revenue from property tax. And

(25:27):
so what I expect we're going to start to hear
you've touched on it is the municipality and everyone else
talking about like warning about this and saying things like, look,
we're going to either have reduced service or we need
to increase the tax rates. We have to do one
or the other.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Could you imagine having your local police force going, hey,
we're not going to be available for nine to one
one calls on Wednesdays and Fridays.

Speaker 9 (25:54):
Yeah, you know what does what history has shown us
when you have first responder UH revenue and resources that
depleted its response times is the first thing, right because
they'll have staff and so they'll serve us every day.
But if something like this were to happen, and we're
really imagining scenarios now, all right, so who knows? I

(26:15):
am not Yeah, we're not in budget talks with these guys.
I don't know what it looks like, you know, but
but but you know what you what you can see
if if their staff count is down, is the response
time going up? And that could be police, fire, e,
M T any of those things, And obviously that should
worry all of us, you know, but I think they're

(26:37):
going to tell us if that happens. And we've heard
some from from some fire districts already who are out
there in the front range, who are out there talking
about like, we've got a problem coming and we've got
to start discussing the solution. But you know, one solution
might be, and we might see it as early as
this fall, is uh, citizens in the front range seeing

(26:58):
ballot measures on their November elections where you see property
tax increase or a sales tax increase.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
And we talked about this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
You and I did Toby about how there might even
be and you said that it's that it's not legal
in the state, but it could change that there might
be a special tax for like fire districts, like you know,
this is your fire department tax. Normally that would be
taken out of your property tax, but this would be
something to subsidize that since you've got evaluations going down.

Speaker 9 (27:30):
Historically, income tax was a reserved for the state property
tax for you know, most local authorities sales tax was
largely cities in the state and county, you know, to
a lesser extent. And so what happened. We already had
that change in law, and I think it was last
the session last year, not this year. I thought it
was twenty four signed by the governor. Now certain local

(27:53):
government governments like fire districts can now collect a sales tax.
That's never been the case before. And so now they
do have to go to their voters to get that
approved their board who runs those entities cannot just say, hey,
we're going to charge a sales tax. They in Colorado,
they've got to put that on the ballot than goodness,
otherwise it would be quite crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
But who's not going to who's not going to vote
for that? If you know, because the tactic will be
fear and rightfully. So I mean, you know, do you
want your house to burn down? Do you want you're
forced to burn down? You know who's going to say, yeah, sure,
let it burn I don't want to pay my I
don't want to pay any extra taxes.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
Well, we're sure going to find out, because I would
be surprised if we didn't have this happening this fall.
So maybe we talk again later and see how it
all goes down. But the other side of the story,
and we were talking about this as well, is the
cost of home ownership has absolutely exploded in a five
year time, you know, we have it's ridiculous, it is crazy, right,

(28:54):
And so the pressure just isn't all in these districts.
The greatest amount of pressure is on homeowners and small
businesses because, as you mentioned earlier, the home insurance is skyrocketed,
interest rates is skyrocketed, the cost of the real estate
to begin with is skyrocketed, and now taxes have Well,
there's your mortgage payment. And if you look at someone's house,

(29:15):
you know, in a neighborhood right now, and you look
at their mortgage bill that has all those things part
of it, compare it to the prior owner who was
paying it five years ago, and it's double or triple
what it was for the same house five years ago.
And we got a lot more people living paycheck to paycheck.
You know, if you've looked at credit card data, we're

(29:35):
back in that pre recession data time where credit card
balances are starting to go up to be bad, right, right.
So so if you're running one of these local governments.
You've got to know this, and then you're going to
you're going to put a question on the ballot and
if you've got look, if we're all broke, we're going
to say no, you know, but so it's going to

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be slammed down.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Toby, do you feel that Douglas County? Because I know
that you're everybody's being affected by this. Do you think
that Douglas County overspends?

Speaker 9 (30:09):
Well, okay, so let's talk about property taxes.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Okay, hold on, hold on, I want you to think
about that.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
We're going to take a quick break, and we're also
going to talk about this home rule election coming up
on Tuesday in Douglas County. Before I let you go,
I went to two words or so on that from you.
All right, can you wait? Can you come through another
break for me?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yep? All right.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
We're talking to Toby Domash.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
He is a Douglas County assessor and he is on
the Gregstone program as I fill in for Mandy on
this beautiful, hot first day of summer. Before we went
to break, Toby, somebody said that it's just overspending.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Is that what's going on? Is it just overspending?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
People are saying, our property taxes went down, now they're
going up in different parts of the state. We know this,
but overall, most folks are experiencing a devaluation. And is
it because these shortfalls? Will they be because of overspending?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Is there anything to cut that we can get rid of?
Will exemptions go out the window? Will veterans and seniors
lose their exemptions?

Speaker 9 (31:20):
So many good questions. Man, jeez, we need another hour.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
But here.

Speaker 9 (31:25):
You know, like we all know, government spending does not
ratchet down anywhere in our planet. No, it just doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
That's why I was just blown away.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I was like, how are they going to give me
a smaller tax bill?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I just don't see it.

Speaker 9 (31:40):
I just while some are going to do that. And
then here's the thing, is, like we all have to
understand that these proper tax bills come from a conglomerate
of local governments. It's not like the county is is
maybe fifteen or twenty percent of your tax bill, the
school is forty percent, your metro district could be twenty

(32:03):
to eighty percent. You're playing to the libraries, the water,
the fighter and they're all making individual budget and spending decisions,
So half of them could be doing great and the
other half can doing being poorly. You get a bill
you're saying it's going up, and you're like, what in
the world it's going up again? Right? I mean, actually,
some of those authorities inside that you're paying to you

(32:24):
might have done a solid budgeting. So absolutely overspending is
part of the is part of the problem. And what's well,
I guess if there's something good about what's about to
happen is it's going to force all the local governments
to start addressing and looking for their overspending. So where

(32:44):
do you go to cut, Well, it depends on how
what you've been spending on, you know, is it compensation,
is the number of staff? Have you making big capital
expenditures like we've got you know, we've got this home
rule question and Ogus County, right, and one of the
things if that passes, one of the things that's going
to get this discussed is putting some tabor restrictions on

(33:08):
Douglas County government. That wouldn't played a wire to water
fire in places like that, but just the government. Well,
if that happens, there's spending time, there's spending characteristics that
are going to change, right, we will not be able
to expand roads like we have like in Highlands Ranch
in nine twenty five and along Parker Road, and so
that those big capital expenditures won't be able to happen

(33:29):
like they have been if we put in spending restrictions
to the home rule process. So there's a lot of
moving parts there. It depends on every single one, but
certainly they're you know what happened in twenty three where
we all had thirty percent increases in property taxes, is
most of the local governments just took that increase. And

(33:50):
you've got some examples of some of the authorities saying, Okay,
we're going to manage our mill levey, we're going to
reduce it, We're going to do a refund. And so
each local government, some of the we're more responsible than others.
When I look at Douglas County government itself, the county
government down here, we've done either a rebate or a
credit a negative credit levy every year like nine out

(34:10):
of ten years, and last year was a huge one.
So they've done they've tried to address those increased taxes.
But there's no denying that the overall revenue for property
taxes are going up dramatically in two years, and so
it seems like there should be some room to work
with all right. It just it seems like it that

(34:32):
would rit to homeowners, that would make sense, And I
think that's the case. So that's my view of it,
that there that you know, there should be some space there.
But it just depends on every local authority and how
responsible they've been. But I do think everyone's going to
be looking at facing the same issue the next two
three to five years, and they're going to have to

(34:53):
ask hard questions.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
What about what about our tabor refund?

Speaker 7 (34:57):
Is the okay?

Speaker 9 (34:58):
So state? Thy news came out yesterday that a couple
of groups that forecast next year state budget, one of
them said that they're not going to be able to
have refunds. They might, yeah, they might not be able

(35:20):
to afford. This is really bad news. Greg. They might
not be able to afford the senior exemption.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Oh oh, what about veterans?

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Same thing?

Speaker 9 (35:29):
Wow, same thing. Like in Douglas County, we have sixteen
thousand of these senior and veteran exemptions and these guys get,
you know, a credit on their property tax bill of
five hundred and two one thousand dollars each year, right,
and most of them need it badly, badly. Oh yes,
I agree with that, talking about people who you know,
a lot of people can't work or don't work. So

(35:51):
this is an important issue, so that we're going to
be seeing this from every direction. You know, we've got
to cut tax credits, so there's some tax on your
state income tax bill that you're used to to hold
your breath on that, because someone's going to be coming.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
How are we gonna It's going to be difficult to
afford anything? I mean, I know that we've already got
overstock in housing ever since there there was a shortage
of inventory. Uh, everybody started building around the Metro. And
now we've got empty buildings. Uh, we've got empty apartment buildings,
We've got empty homes. I know that there's homes in

(36:27):
my neighborhood that are sitting for you know, six years,
nine months now. Uh, and and these you know, when
they're they're sitting empty. How long is that going to be?

Speaker 6 (36:36):
You know?

Speaker 4 (36:37):
And where's that revenue?

Speaker 9 (36:39):
You know that the longer that happens, the more price
pressure goes on real estate, and then your proper text.
Revenue is affected by that too. Housing is an interesting thing.
Everyone's kind of, you know, fighting about it. Some say
we need a lot more so that we can make
it cheaper, Like do you really want the values of
all of our homes to go down? I mean, is
that what you're trying to do there? I'm not really sure.
There's a lot of interesting conversations about about housing, and

(37:00):
a lot of people feel like we need a lot more.
And there has been a lot of construction the past
few years, and that construction is going to slow down.
It has done something it already hasn't.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Who's buying them construction? I don't know where that who's
buying those homes?

Speaker 4 (37:18):
I just don't.

Speaker 9 (37:18):
Yeah, well, we have to start with the fact that
Colorado is an amazing place to live, and it has
historically until recently been good for business and we've usually
we've usually out competed in other states in terms of migration,
and until recently that was the case. The question is,
you know what, now we don't have policies in place

(37:40):
to truly support that continuing. But you know, hopefully we
can get that turnaround and keep the economy strong and
so on. As we move forward.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Hey, Toby, we we got to take a quick break,
and I know you still want to touch on that
home rule election. Let's take a break, come back and
we'll talk about the Douglas County home rule election going
on Tuesday. Can you do one more break with me?

Speaker 7 (38:01):
Yep?

Speaker 9 (38:01):
Thank you sir.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
All right, we'll be back here. It's Greg stone In
for Mandy on KOA.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
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Speaker 2 (38:13):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
On KOA AM ninety more one FM.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
So god wait say they many connell.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
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Speaker 3 (38:35):
Kick ass is that she's got her own little pop
rock jingle.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Hey, it's Gregg stone in for Mandy. It's just a
one off. Who knows.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Maybe I'll be back the next time she goes to Japan,
because I know she frequents the country.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
We are talking to Toby Damage.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
He is a Douglas County assessor and Douglas County has
a home rule election happening on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Isn't that right, Toby?

Speaker 9 (39:03):
Yeah, we sure do. And it's a mail ballot election,
and the ballots went out about two weeks.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Douglas county.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
In Douglas County, yeah, that's the price a side.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
That's what Colorado does.

Speaker 9 (39:17):
We're all mail ballot elections open, so I think there
might be three vote centers you can go to, but really,
I mean, these ballots are not in your mailbox, are
on your countertop unless you voted already. But the deadline
is June twenty fourth, that is election day. If you
haven't voted yet, you do not want to mail it
in because it won't get there in time. So there

(39:37):
are ballot boxes all over Douglas County right now. We're
talking about probably over three hundred thousand citizens receiving ballots.
So this is a big deal. And what we're trying
to do in home rule is really elicit some more
local control in areas like land use, public safety, and taxation,
which you and I have been talking about for the
last hour, and really get some our control and pull

(40:01):
away from the state on some of these areas that
we're able to do. So the ballot, you know, there's
three questions on the ballot. Basically you're saying, it's asking,
as a citizen, do you want us to seat a
commission to write a charter or not? And then who
do you want to be on the commission So it's
a two step election, and it's got to get to

(40:23):
the first election, which is just asking citizens whether you
want to seat the commissioner or not. If it gets
through this election, and we will know late Tuesday night
whether it passes or not. I hope, I hope. We
don't know that for sure, but and if it passes,
and then these commissioners, who are elected in the same
election the same ballot, will sit down and write a

(40:44):
charter in the weeks after that, in the months of June, July,
and August, as long as it takes really and then
what would happen is if they could pass that charter,
which can say things like here's what we're doing with
tax here's what we're doing in public safety, here's what
we're doing with land use. That written document would be

(41:05):
a ballot item in the November election if they get
it done, and then the citizens would be able to
vote on whether they want to implement that as.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Law or not.

Speaker 9 (41:15):
So it's a really unique process. There are dozens of
cities across the City of Colorado that have this already.
It's really popular with cities in towns in Colorado, there
are four counties that haven't in place. Two of them
are cities and counties. And then probably the most comparable
will want to tell us as well, well, it's had

(41:36):
it in place for fifty years. But the thing, the
most important thing is you cannot mail that thing in
if you're a Douglas County voter anymore, because they won't
get to them, right. You know, you're talking about giving
it to the United States Postal Service, it's not going.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
To get to them.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
You've got to drop off boxes throughout the county where everywhere.

Speaker 9 (41:53):
Yeah, there's dozens of.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Where can they go to find those boxes online somewhere
Douglas County dot org or something Doug v.

Speaker 9 (42:00):
Douglas, Douglas votes dot com. And there's lots of Q
and A type stuff out there. There's a lot of
votes that have been cast already. In fact, they think.
I was talking to Clerk Davis this morning and she
said there's been more than fifty thousand votes already turned
in in these ballot boxes. All right, so we're getting

(42:20):
a good turnout and you can see a dashboard with
data about that. But yeah, there's a map or list
on her website again Douglas votes dot Com that has
all location of all the ballot boxes and there's a
bunch all over the county. And what's going to happen
is you have to get it in that ballot box
by seven pm on Tuesday night. Don't wait till seven

(42:40):
because at seven there's going to be a team of
people who are going to lock those things up and
get the ballots out of there in a safe and
secure manner.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
All right, well that is Tuesday. You got to have
them in by Tuesday. What time again, Toby.

Speaker 9 (42:55):
Seven pm Tuesday. But you know, sit down this weekend
with your family, get it on and get them turned in.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
And then what'll and then.

Speaker 9 (43:03):
Clerk Davis will have results as early as you know,
a couple of hours later. I think on Thursday night
they'll have you know, early results and they won't have
everything counted. And I think we'll no final results for
the election within within two weeks. But what will happen
is if it passes is immediately this commission, this group
of elected people, will will schedule public meetings to sit

(43:26):
and talk and start writing this charter and writing the
rules of Douglas County.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
So looking forward to so it's very transparent, very transparent.

Speaker 9 (43:34):
Home rule, very transparent. And it's been going on like
this thing was put on the ballot on March twenty fourth,
I think, so we're it's three months of debate we've
been having in Douglas County. There's been a lot of
it down here. It's all of our social media. So
it's a big event looking forward to it, and we'll
see what happens on Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
You know.

Speaker 9 (43:54):
I hope they get through and the citizens give us
a chance to work through this and create some local
control in Douglas County. But we'll see.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Toby Domish is the Douglas one of Douglas County successors,
and I thank you for being on the program, helping
us through this whole property text debacle and dilemma. I mean,
it's just, you know, the seniors and vets are going
to be very disappointed.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
Yeah. I think what my final comment, Greg would be this,
because the senior in vet exemption is a big freaking deal,
And so I would ask all your listeners not just
whether they have it, but whether their family members have it.
You know, aunt's uncles, grandma's, grandpa's and all that. Because
it's really important for a lot of people, and we've

(44:40):
got to encourage our General Assembly to keep that thing
going for them.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Right, and as the summer moves on, it's come fall,
we should start hearing more about this and whether or
not it will's some sort of taxation initiatives will end
up on local ballots.

Speaker 9 (44:56):
So sure will there's going to be a some on
Novem and we'll be talking more about this. But I
appreciate my time with you today.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Gret Hey.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I appreciate you, Toby. Very cool of you to spend
so much time with us here on Kowa. You have
a great day, all right, and stay hydrated and if
you get a chance, do that cross leg challenge when
you get home.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
Yeah, I'm a little scared.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
All right.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Tobe Domis, Douglas County Assessor on the Greg Stone Program Informaty.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Thank you so much, Toby, have a great weekend.

Speaker 9 (45:25):
You too, see you around all right.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
Mail.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
What a great interview guy, just a wealth of information.
We got Metallica tickets too, if I can just mention
that that's coming up here before Ice Cadadle. We've got
Metallica tickets for Friday night and then all next week
Kowa will be giving away Metallica tickets as well. We're
giving away Metallica tickets on the Fox's that's my home station.

(45:48):
I do three to seven, So after I'm done here,
I'll be on there giving away tickets at five o'clock.
In all next week, Susie will have tickets, you know,
Susie Warrigs and everybody on KA Wait No Susie, She'll
have tickets for you at nine am and at two
in the afternoon, and then I'll have them for you
at five as well.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
That's next week, No.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
One oh three five The Fox is Metallica comes to
play our thirty sixth anniversary. The Fox has turned in
thirty six and what a weekend.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
That is going to be.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Next weekend, It's going to be crazy, so much to do.
Downtown's gonna be nuts. There's a Metallica movie, Metallica Saved
My Life, which is this fan created movie that's going
to premiere on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Here in the Denver Metro.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
There's a lot going on at uh. I can't remember
the name of that place. U it's right there by
miaw Wolf.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Yeah, there's stuff going on here, man.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, I've been just for some reason it's in my
mind it's very uh avant garde, very eclectic, unique place.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
How about that.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I think that's a good way to describe it.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
So I guess you got to see it at least once.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I've been twice, and I think you gotta go twice
because the first time it's almost too much to take in,
and then the second time you kind of get to
really delve deep into some weird stuff.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And they have concerts there. Now, Yeah, there's gonna be
a Metallica tribute band there on Saturday night. That'd be awesome.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
So it's gonna be crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
So the Fox is doing a lot of stuff as
we celebrate The Fox celebrates thirty six years of being
your classic rock station. It's Greg Stone. I do afternoons
on that station, and I'm hanging out in for Manly
Manly for Mandy Connell on the on the Friday afternoon,

(47:37):
the first day of summer. It is hot, hot, hot, hot.
It's affecting my brain, that's how hot it is. And
there is a what a heat warning going on until
six o'clock tomorrow. So that's that's hot, folks hot, And
then you know it's gonna be crazy everybody's gonna be
running their ac Who knows we're gonna have some power problems.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I'm just.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I'm just making it a.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Happy place today.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Here as I fill in for Mandy A five koa,
it's what are we looking at? One seventeen, We're going
to have Josh Fury coming on the show. Josh works
for ever and Evertree Insurance, and he's going to talk
to us about how a lot of people's homeowners insurance
are skyrocketing. Mine is being increased by sixty three percent.

(48:24):
I live in Aurora. That's my divorce house. When I
got divorced from five years I was six years ago.
That's where I ended up. And it was during that
whole crazy you know, you know, homing everything, all the
home prices were through the roof, things were going out
of control, and I made a lot of money off

(48:45):
that house, but I had to reinvest in this volatile market,
and so I really didn't make a whole lot. And
then now I've never used my homeowner's insurance for anything,
nothing in this new location, been there for almost five years.
And then I get a notice that says my homeowners
insurance is going to be increased by sixty three percent,

(49:09):
sixty three percent, and I'm like, for what, I call
my insurance agent and he tells me that it's because
I live in a high fire area, and like, I
live in Aurora. He says, well, it's bad for hail too,
and I go, well, which, what is it? I go,
It's California, That's what it is. It's it's insurance. They're
in the business of profit. They're really not in the

(49:31):
business of helping people. You see these great commercials on
TV that show how they come to the table and
help folks out. But we know that what was it
State farm that denied everybody in southern or dropped everybody
in southern California before those fires hit. And then there's
you know, everybody from all state to Farmers had been

(49:54):
in front of you know, the Senate Committee testifying because
there's people that aren't getting their claims paid, or they're
getting denied, or they're getting partial payments, and it's just
it's ridiculous. You pay all this money, you never use it,
and when you do need it, they're not there for you.
So Josh Furrey is going to talk to us about that.

(50:16):
He's going to talk to us about what we can
do how to save some money, and that is coming
up here in about I'd say about ten minutes or so.
Here's I fill in for Mandy. So we got those
Metallica tickets, We got Josh coming up, and we're going
to talk to Marty from Dog Nation. The Dog Bold
is going on out at the Edge Ice Arena out

(50:38):
there off of what is that Sims? I think Ken
Carl and Sims out there, and there's gonna be a
lot of Avalanche alumni playing. There's going to be Colorado
College du and Eagles alumni participating as well, and plus
all the great Beer leaguers that we have in the
Colorado metro, in the Denver metro, in this state of

(51:00):
Colorado that will be participating in this great fundraiser. They
do amazing things for brain injuries, for cancer patients. Dognation
is a great charity, and we'll be talking to Marty
about that coming up on the Greg Stones Show. And
I came across. I came across this interesting fact about

(51:22):
younger people here in the country not having sex. We
talked about your thirty five, right, how's your sex life?

Speaker 5 (51:30):
Well, not quite as good as I'd hoped it. Would
be as a married man. But I would say I'm
definitely not in that group you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
So evidently, if you're married, you're supposed to be having
the most sex, and I've always thought that that was
not true for many You know, how many you know,
can I get personal with you?

Speaker 7 (51:54):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Maybe not too personal? How many? How many times do
you and and missus grant to do it on a
monthly basis?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Probably, to be honest, six or seven. Oh, it's not
so bad. Yeah, yeah, you get older, life gets busier. Man,
a couple of times a week. Yeah, that's good. That'll
keep you from dying. That in the cross left challenge.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
That's right. So twenty four percent of Americans want a
break from sex. You believe this. I do not believe that. Uh,
they must not be having the right kind. That's they're
not doing it right, that's for sure. Folks that are
abstaining are spending about six months without doing it. I

(52:42):
can't even remember going six months.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Without doing it.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Even when I was like in the heat of my
end of my marriage, my twenty five year marriage, we
were still having you know, agro sex. What is that?
What agro?

Speaker 4 (52:57):
You know, angry you're just you're the only one available.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
So I guess the top reasons include they want to
learn other forms of intimacy, and this is the the
gen zers. They want to give the body in mind
a chance to catch up, and they want emotional closeness.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Okay, I think that probably has more to do with
how much gen zers are disconnected from the world nowadays,
you know, after the pandemic and being obsessed with their
cell phones and just not getting outside and interacting with
other people. Go on a date, right, I have a
couple of friends that are doing online dating, and man,
what a nightmare that is.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (53:41):
I look at social media and I'm just like, I
just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
It would be difficult to have to go out there
these days and find a significant other, wouldn't it.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Yes, I'm very glad that I am not in that
in that boat.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Hey, we're going to take a quick break and we'll
come back and we're going to talk to my friend
and we're going to get the low down on homeowners insurance.
Josh Fury from Evertree Insurance will be joining us when
we come back here. As I fill in for Mandy
Conley today on eight to fifty koa. Josh Fury from

(54:15):
Evertree Insurance on the phone, and I don't know about you,
but I got a notice from my mortgage banker saying
that my payment, my monthly payment was going to go
up some sixty three percent, and I'm looking all through it.
I'm trying to figure out why that is, and I
end up figuring out that it's it's my homeowner's insurance.

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So I call my agent and the agent tries to
tell me that the reason why it's going up so
drastically is because I live in a high fire district
and it's an aurora. And then he goes, oh, well,
you know, it's the hail's there, real bad.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
And I'm like, what are you talking about? Fire?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
You know it hails all over the state, you know,
And he goes, well, the whole everybody across the country
is getting increases, and I'm like, well, it's it's because
of these natural disasters that have happened around the country.
You're in a for profit industry and you're really not
into the business of helping people. You just make us
compliant by purchasing insurance. But Josh does help people. Josh

(55:24):
Fury from Everatree Insurance is on the phone with us.

Speaker 7 (55:26):
How are you, Josh, I'm well, Greg, thanks for having
me on.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Man, Hey, I appreciate you, buddy. Well, why is this
is it? Is it to be blamed on these natural
disasters around the country, the fires in California, the floods
on the East Coast. Is this why insurance companies are
raising the population's homeowners insurance?

Speaker 7 (55:51):
You nailed it.

Speaker 8 (55:52):
The climate driven disasters, you know, nationally have set us
back quite a bit, a lot of it. You know,
it really comes from like the construction and labor inflation
as well. You know, claims fifteen years ago we're ten grand.
Now they're twenty grand, you know, and you throw these
disasters in nationally. It's it's costing these insurance carriers quite a.

Speaker 7 (56:13):
Bit of money.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
And I don't think some of them stayed to state
we're charging the correct premium up front. You know, fifteen
years ago you pay one hundred bucks for your homeowners
insurance and now you know as well as I do,
it's probably four to five grand on an annual average.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah, it's a big difference between now and you know,
five ten years ago. And so why didn't insurance companies
five ten years ago raise everybody's rates. I mean, the
natural disasters were happening then too.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
No, you're right, and I always think they're about a
year behind on trying to figure out what they're going
to do for that upcoming year. You know, I've been
sitting in this chair for quite a few years, and
like I said, some of them, from what I see,
they want to come into the business and gobble it up.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
You know, have these low rates, they get.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
You in, and then you see a rate increase of
sixty percent, You're thinking, wow, where like I said, they're
just gobbling up the business and then they can take
those rate increases and still be par with you know,
all the other carriers and a.

Speaker 7 (57:16):
Lot of companies moving out of the state as.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
Well, because they came in under price for several years,
and now they're catching up.

Speaker 7 (57:21):
I think I think sooner or.

Speaker 8 (57:23):
Later, maybe in the next year or two, we're going
to see things flatten out. The rates is still going
to be quite a bit higher, and the coverage isn't
going to be any better.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
So what about people that are having their claims denied
in southern California?

Speaker 4 (57:37):
You know, what's that about?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
How do you, how do you go your whole life
paying the premium rarely uh, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Filing a claim if at all.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Uh, and then you're you're you're told that they're not
going to help you rebuild your house.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
Yeah, I've been.

Speaker 8 (57:54):
I don't dabble in that state too often because it's
definitely a hard state to do anything in. Right now,
we are a licensed insurance carrier there. There's a lot
of companies just not wanting the right business there, and
you have to I think you.

Speaker 7 (58:06):
Have to be sitting in that state to do so.

Speaker 8 (58:09):
A lot of regulatory pressure and investigations going on. You know,
these insurance carriers are going to ask their consumers and
their insurance for documentation two or three times when the
insurance already provided it to them, you know.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
So it's a long waiting game.

Speaker 8 (58:22):
You know, some of them have waited six to twelve
months and keep getting the same thing. You know, where's this?

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Where's this?

Speaker 8 (58:31):
I think with a large loss like that Greg that,
you know, and with what's happened nationally, these insurance companies
just aren't writing checks anymore. I think they're having people
try to provide proof of their personal property and things
like that. Where back in the day, you know, if
you had one hundred and sixty grand in personal property,
and you know, you go shopping and you can purchase

(58:51):
everything within your needs of having that for your coverage, they.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
Write you a check.

Speaker 8 (58:56):
Today in California, it's like pulling teeth. I don't know
the true answer, but it's definitely a mess. And I
think there's gonna be a lot of changes moving forward,
obviously with the rebuilding.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
Process, new codes.

Speaker 8 (59:07):
So it's definitely interesting in that state and probably not
to be in right now.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Can you speak on uh uh like new building materials?

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Do you have knowledge about that?

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I mean, it seems to me if we're still making
houses out of wood, and uh, we're having all these
fire problems, why are we still making homes out of wood?
Is it still cheaper? Why aren't we using hemp or
concrete or.

Speaker 8 (59:32):
You know, nailed it. That's a great question. I actually
met with a builder h two gentlemen out of we
rich here, great guys called Jobert Holmes.

Speaker 7 (59:42):
I went to a place out.

Speaker 8 (59:43):
In Boulder House burnt down from the from the fires.
I think they've got a total of five homes built
out in that Sagamore area, and they're fire resistant.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
They've been on CBS news, uh.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
The crazy things. They only have smoke damage in the
interior portion of it. So it's starting to be more
of knowledge. I think a lot more builders need to
get on board with their product, and sooner or later
you're going to see that and they're going to start
breaking construction I think on one of their new houses
in December out in California. And I'm definitely looking to
get on board and educate the insurance carriers with, hey,

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this is the product they're building with, because a lot
of the insurance companies today here in Colorado they don't
have these the type of materials built into their database
to actually figure out what is the cost to rebuild
this type of construction.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
In a fabulous zone by the way, most definitely. So
they've got a good thing going.

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
You're going to see a lot more of that and
hopefully that should offset some rates.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Most definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
So can you see the uh, the insurance industry driving
this building.

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
Change in California?

Speaker 8 (01:00:55):
I think for a lot of people here rebuilding. You
know the thing about it is, I think they're priced
about seven percent higher than your typical stick stick built home.
But like they've demonstrated, they said, hey, if you've just
come from a total loss and you have to rebuild,
you're not going to probably rebuild that way anymore. So
they're willing to pay out a little bit of an increase.

(01:01:16):
In California. You know, it's going to be a new
UH code, you know, so they're insurance companies whoever had
that code built into their policy is going to pay
that extra additional cost to rebuild. So they're only three
to four percent higher there. You know, it's just a
lot of track housing.

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
You know as well as I do. And these guys they.

Speaker 8 (01:01:34):
Can do the track housing for sure. They're just so
new to everything that there's probably not a whole lot
of builders out there that are certified to build their product.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
But it's it's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
It's going to catch on to tell me. What makes
it so phenomenal, you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
Know, just the way they build their structure. It's still
a frame built home. But when I went out to
the one out and Boulder over here, for instance, the
exterior portion of the framing it's like like a plywood,
but it's got.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
A layer of a fire.

Speaker 8 (01:02:03):
Resistant I don't know, if they spray it on, painted on,
it's like a pink looking product. And then after that
they have what's really interesting is this granite type of item.
I think it's like ground up granite and it looks
like a big piece of insulation and when you go
to grab it, it's not really light.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
It's heavy.

Speaker 8 (01:02:22):
So that goes on that sheeting, and then after that
it's a stucco product. And every home has.

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
Sprinkler systems built into.

Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
Them pretty much airtight. There is no gas, it's all electric.
It's I said, man, I've been around construction all my life,
from the tidle industry to insurance, and I took the
time out of my day to go visit this on
a rainy day. And these guys are way cool and
they they've got something that's going.

Speaker 7 (01:02:49):
To be big.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
You see, it be in the future of home building.

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
I don't see why not, you know, if the if
the cost is only that much higher, and you're you know,
you see things like this in that Louisville area Superior
that was devastating, you know, yeah, just crazy. So I
don't to me, it's a no brainer, you know. And
I'm trying to spread the word nationally, you know, because
we're a national company that hey, if people have to

(01:03:16):
rebuild their home, these are the guys to go to.

Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
I mean, just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Hands down, we're talking to Josh Fury of ever Trained Insurance.
We're going to take a quick break and we're going
to come back and we're going to talk more about
what the consumer can do to help lower that cost
of that homeowner's insurance with Josh here in just a
few moments, you're listening to Greg Stone. I'm filling in
for Mandy Connell here on KOA five six six nine zero.

(01:03:42):
You can text your comments. You've kind of good, lots
of stuff going on, especially when I screwed up Mandy's name,
I mean, manly shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Why that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
My apologies to Mandy. She's great, gala and I appreciate
her letting me sit in this chair. So Andy Connelly, Uh,
we'll be back on Monday. Here on KO right, we
are talking into Josh Fury from Everatree Insurance, and.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
You know, we're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
About these higher rates most people experiencing, uh, these higher
rates in their homeowners insurance and there's really not a
whole lot we can do as consumers is there?

Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
You know, I always tell people, and it's nice to
work for an independent company. My clients typically you know,
touch base me once a year every other year, just
to have me re evaluate their product. A lot of
changes happen happening, you know, with everyone's insurance today, whether
it's rough coverage, deductible changes. You know, there's definitely options.

(01:04:43):
And I would say, you know, reach out to your agent,
have them re evaluate the policies you have in place,
and you know, see what they got to do from there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Uh, you know, and and you know, making that that
deductible greater is it necessarily the greatest idea?

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
Years ago I always used to offer a product the
lower deductible just to make it more consumer friendly. Today
I'm actually telling people, you know, I'm actually rolling with
the five thousand dollars deductible for all losses. I have
a one percent deductible for wind or hail. But I'm
just going to have to start self ensuring myself a
little bit more than what I had done previously to

(01:05:25):
keep my rate down. For one, and you don't want
to file a claim today, I mean, heaven forbid, you
have a water claim? You could definitely be possibly canceled
and have a have a tough time getting new in
a new insurance policy after that. So you know, you
really got to weigh it out if you ever have
something happen at your residence, I would definitely call a
contractor before you call your insurance company.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
That's that seems, you know, ridiculous to me that here
you go, you spend this money to be insured and
if you file a claim you get dropped.

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
Yeah, it's I've been seeing a lot, you know, if
it's crazy, it's it's a roller coaster. I've seen all
these companies do the same thing. You know, you love
one for a while and then you're you're not check
on them for a while, and it's like a roller coaster.
You know, they come back into play and you got
to do what's right as a consumer and insured and
do something that's reasonable and has still has good coverage.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
So if you you know, I know that you work
for an independent, but if you had to rate the
best insurance companies.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Can you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Can you do that here on on KOA?

Speaker 6 (01:06:31):
For me?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Who do you think treats their customers the best? Is
that putting you in a position that you don't want
to be in. Do you do you want to answer
that question or not?

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
No, you know, I feel confident with all the companies
that we utilize. And I'm going to tell you this,
It almost it almost.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
Boils down to the adjuster working for the company. Here's
a couple of reasons why when there's a task, if
you lost here in the state of Colorado, there's adjusters
blown in from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:06:59):
Now they've got to know the code, what's going on
with the rebuilding here, the cost of rebuilding versus you know,
another state. So typically I'm not going to say it's
all in the carrier, it's back end. But some of
the companies that I've had a really good are good
success and working with over the years have been Travelers,
top notch auto Owners, very good company nationwide. Those are

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really strong companies that I've had really good luck with.
The content with the claims department, the customer being happy.
You know, it's never fun going through a claim no
when they're trying to part of your.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
House, because especially if there's the fear of being dropped.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
Yeah, and that's why I always tell people, and you know,
I love what I do because people can call me
and say, hey, here's what happened, and I'm like, well,
your deductible's five grand. They're like, well, never mind, I'll
just pay it out of pocket. You know, but it's
not a question. And then you call your captive company direct.
You know that now they got note of that. Maybe
the pressure is to fix it sooner than later. Maybe
you don't have the funds to fix it. I see

(01:08:04):
down the road. Honestly, I think homes aren't going to
be very well maintained down the road with these type
of deductibles, because there are a lot of people that
think insurance is intended for a maintenance product for their
home versus more of a catastrophe type of product. So yeah,
it's crazy, but definitely a good thing to have an
independent guy in your back pocket, is my thought.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
So you know, if you want to throw in Josh
is not my insurance agent. He's just a really cool
guy that I know. And if you want to throw
your number out there, Josh, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:08:34):
Oh yeah, definitely, three zero three, four to three to one,
ninety three, five to one. We have an off awesome staff.
Been in business for quite a while since nineteen ninety three.
So definitely know what we what we're doing. And it's
important to know your agent because I've gotten involved with

(01:08:55):
several claims that missindication. You know, the insured doesn't know
what's going on, you know, and it's just you just
got to keep pushing and keep pushing until it's resolved.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Hey, you know, I got a text real quick from
the koa Common Spirit Health text line. Somebody wanted you
to repeat those three companies again that you like they
Oh yeah, they didn't catch you.

Speaker 8 (01:09:18):
Travelers Insurance, Nationwide Auto Owners and you sitting with the
Independent channel.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
And when when there's a big disaster in the state
and you get these adjusters from other states coming in,
can you request I want a Colorado adjuster? Can you
request that? Or or does it make a difference?

Speaker 8 (01:09:41):
You know, years ago, most definitely, you know, i'd have
a client call me. They just they weren't feeling a
good vibe. I'd say, let's just reassign it to another adjuster.

Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
We would do that today.

Speaker 8 (01:09:52):
I don't know things have really changed today. You know,
they're not getting in their car and driving out and
inspecting properties that much. It's all aerial, not not so
much customer friendly anymore. But I do what I can
for my clients. And if if that's the request, that's
what we do.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Give your number out one more time to ever Tree Insurance.

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
Josh, Yes, sir, three zero three four three one nine
three five one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
That's Josh Furrey from Evertree Insurance. They're an independent insurance agency. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
And like he suggested, if.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
You find that your homeowner's insurance is going up, then
you got to talk to your agent. You got to
go through there, maybe even consider a higher deductible. It's
you know, it's it's just not a friendly place right
now for homeowners. And then and then we've got all
this inventory.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
I was just talking about this with Toby. We've got
all this inventory in the state that's empty.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
And uh, you know, if you're looking to move out,
you're going to be holding onto your home. It's you know,
the people across the street from me nine months and
just two years ago. Uh, you know, places we're we're
selling in fourteen thirty days.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Crazy. You know.

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
If I can just say a couple more things that
are really important is too, if you have updated your rooff,
make sure your insurance company knows I know they paid
the claim typically, but the left hand doesn't talk to.

Speaker 7 (01:11:16):
The right hand. If you've got an impact resistant roof,
let them know that as well.

Speaker 8 (01:11:21):
If you have solar on your roof, let them know
that as well.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
If you don't tell them that, you might have issues.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
And lastly, if your roof is hitting ten to fifteen
years of age, call your agent ask what type of
coverage you have. You know it's going to be replacement
costs is what you want. If it's a settlement type
of program, you know you're going to get paid seventy
sixty seven percent plus a higher deductible, so a lot
more out of pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
So just yeah, call.

Speaker 8 (01:11:47):
Your agent every time you get your renew them let
you know, have them do their job and explain how
it's working today.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
All right, Hey, Josh, I appreciate you being on the show.
Thanks for being here, and we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
Thank everybody, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Josh Fury from Evertree Insurance.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It's Greg Stone in for Mandy Connell and I'll be
back here in just a few moments on eight to
fifty KOA.

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It is Pride month after all.

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Thanks Mandy. It's Greg Stone.

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Triple digits out there, man, toasty toasty, Stay hydrated, folks,
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Somebody just text in they heard the news and they're like,
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Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
That is pathetic.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
It's because they don't want to have to pull him
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That's why. I guess you didn't listen to the story.

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So but yeah, I mean, it's uh, it's a it's
I guess it's dangerous, right. Maybe you can go swimming
with a helmet. Does that work for you? So I
got to talk about Father's Day. I you know, I
love being a dad. It's like the greatest accomplishment I've
ever had. It's I live for being a dad. And

(01:13:38):
all my all my kids are are old now. My
my youngest is twenty two, and you know, he's he's
pretty straight lace kid. He doesn't drink really and he
doesn't do drugs. He doesn't smoke marijuana. You know, maybe
on occasion, maybe maybe, but he's just he's too busy
working and gaming to do any of that stuff. And

(01:13:59):
so on Father's Day, he was planning the whole meal.
All right, we're gonna go to Texas Roadhouse. He got everything,
got all the other kids together, and everyone's gonna go
and take me to the roadhouse. Or we're gonna have
steak and celebrate Father's Day, have a good time. And
my birthday was on the sixth of June. So one

(01:14:22):
of the gifts I got, I mainly got like PGA
store gift cards, which is what I wanted. But I
got this bag of gummies from my good friend Doug.
And you know, if you if you know anything about
recreational marijuana, when you buy gummies in this state, they're
at ten grams apiece, so they can sell you up

(01:14:43):
to one hundred grams in a package, but they're in
ten gram doses. Unless you have a medicinal card and
then you can get you know, up to fifty milligram doses.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
And that's what this package of gummies want.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Were I, you know? And I just I didn't. I failed.
I didn't read the label. I did not read the label.
And I asked my son, bring up my girlfriend. I
got Kat on the phone with this hero o k
oh wait today, Hi baby, how are you hi?

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
I love her?

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Good. So I'm telling everybody I didn't read the package
on Father's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
And so I asked my son.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
I go, hey, you want a gummy before we go
in and eat? And he's like, sure, I'll take a
gummy and I gave him one, and then I gave
one to you too.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Didn't I cat?

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
You sure didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
And then as we're all three chowing down on these
I'm reading, I decide that's when I'll read the label
after the fact.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
What an idiot?

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
And I'm like, oh oh, and my son, who's twenty two,
looks at me and he goes like, what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Uh oh? And I was like, uh well, I think
he'll be all right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
They're fifty milligrams and he's like what and he takes
the package out of my hand and he reads it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
It's like maximum strength.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
These are for people that have like cancer, serious joint
and bone issues, people that have major health issues that
don't want to be on narcotics, so they use, you know,
medicinal marijuana. And it's at a very high potent dose,
which was oblivious, and so I get this. I text

(01:16:30):
my son. I'm like, hey, it's time to go, and
he's like, I don't think I can go. It's been
like forty five minutes, right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:36):
Babe, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
And so he goes, I don't think I can go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
I'm like what.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
I go downstairs and he is sitting in his gaming
chair like in a fetal position.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Going I don't feel.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
So good, and I'm like, oh, you lightweight. I felt
real bad for saying.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
That, by the way, I just want to clarify that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
And then it just got worse for him, progressively worse.
I brought him upstairs, I put him out in the backyard,
gave him a coke, a Coca cola. I said, drink this,
this will help your stomach. You know, he's ralphing. This
is way too much for this kid, And I'm like
he can't go to the dinner that he planned for me.
And so the other kids show up and we all

(01:17:21):
go Kats with me. We grabbed my ninety two year
old mom, who I did not give any gummies to. Okay, people,
all right, and so we go to Texas Roadhouse and
then during the ordering process, I look at my girl
and Kat is starting to melt. She's not feeling so
good and she's doing everything she can to maintain, and

(01:17:46):
all of a sudden, right before we order, she's like,
I have to go. I'm like what, she goes, I
have to go, and you can take it from their babe.

Speaker 6 (01:17:56):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
So I started to feel heart healpitation and lots of
paranoia starting to just overwhelm me.

Speaker 6 (01:18:06):
And I was like, I don't think I.

Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
Can sit here any longer and take it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
I have to I have to leave. It's packed. I mean,
there's there's people waiting for ninety minutes to come into
this Texas Roadhouse. It's nuts people everywhere. And then all
of a sudden, she's like, I gotta go.

Speaker 8 (01:18:22):
I gotta go.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
I'm out.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
So she uh, she gets up and I follow her
out and we're out in front of the of the
Texas roadhouse and I'm like, hey, you want me to
take you home? And she's like, no, I'm just going
to sit here. And I'm like, what go Why does
she go in the car? She goes, no, I'm just
going to sit here. And I said, all right, well,
I'm gonna go. I'm going to order your food and
then I'm gonna come back and check on you. So
I go back inside the roadhouse, order her food, come

(01:18:46):
back out and she's leaning up against the outside wall
of the roadhouse with her shades on, her mouth opened,
a little drool coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
I'm like, oh, you're done, and she's like, I can't move, Like,
what do you think talking about I'm believing?

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
And I'm I'm I'm functioning fine, there's nothing wrong with me. Nothing.
I got to even feel the effects of this thing,
and I just I'm just at a loss. So I
grab her, I take her back to the car. I
put her in the car and I'm like, sit here
for a minute. I'll come back and check on you.
And when I come back out, she's like she freaked out.
She's like, every little noise is freaking he out. She

(01:19:23):
thinks that the cops are going to arrest her for
loitering or for sleeping in the car. She's got this
high level of paranoia. And it's all because I did
not read the label. Okay, I just assumed. And you
can't do that with marijuana products. You got to read
the label, okay. And I've always preached that. I don't
know what I was thinking. I feel so bad, and

(01:19:44):
like I said, I take take great pride in being
a dad. And man, did I let my son down?

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
And I let my woman down.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Everybody was too wasted, and then she couldn't function for
a whole other day. It was like almost four eight hours.
This woman was out of commission.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
Yep. Yes, very much of lightweight.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Uh And And I just wanted to share that story
with you because I felt like I needed to get
it off my chest. I needed to, you know, somehow
find some redemption in all of this by confessing publicly
here on KOA. So you listen, you got people from
out of town. If you've got one of these medicinal licenses,

(01:20:30):
your medicinal card, and you're still purchasing medicinal grade marijuana.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
You gotta you gotta reel it in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
I mean, I had no idea that that they could
still that they were selling fifty milligram doses uh in
this you know, super duper heavy duty, maximum strength gummy.
And they tasted pretty good.

Speaker 8 (01:20:54):
Actually they were delicits.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
But remember I did say, I'm like, these tastes like
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Right, because you know what THD tastes like. Huh he said,
Oh yeah, they.

Speaker 8 (01:21:09):
Kind of do, but they're good. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Hey, are you excited about Metallica?

Speaker 9 (01:21:14):
I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Are you going to take any gummies?

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
That will be a I think I'm going to be
on a drug free free for for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
After that, we're going to give away some tickets here
on KOA here in just a few moments. Yes, everybody
is in on the action when it comes to Metallica
coming to town. Isn't that crazy? That's just how how
old we've gotten now now Metallica is is you know,
acceptable with the masses? Isn't that crazy? Thirty years ago?

(01:21:51):
You remember that show with Mile High with guds and
roses and iced tea?

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
You know I do?

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Oh yes I do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Hey, So we're gonna find out some of your Metallica
stories and maybe give your story a pair of tickets.
So you can make some new memories next weekend out
at Mile High Stadium with your friends here at KOA.
We're gonna take a quick break, babe, thanks for being
on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
You have a good one. I'd stay hydrated and I'll
see you later.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
All right, honey, all right, sounds great.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Love youa me too. Okay, Hey, we'll take a quick break.
We're gonna talk to Marty. Marty from a Dog Nation
is supposed to be giving us a call here. There
is a big Dog Bowl tournament going on out at
the edge, and there's gonna be some alumni there, and
I believe it's all free for you to go and view.
So we'll talk to Marty coming up here on the
Great Stone Show. Plus, we're gonna give away some tickets

(01:22:41):
to catch some Metallica. As I fill in for Mandy
here on eight fifty KOA. Somebody says, yeah, buddy, body
Count opened up. We were talking about that Metallica show
some I don't know, a little longer than thirty years ago.
It's like ninety two. I think it was at Mile
High Stadium with guns and roses and body Count iced
teas Bay and when Axel stormed off stage, and Barry

(01:23:02):
Faye brought Axel back and Crazy and James had burned
his arm in Montreal a couple of shows prior to that,
and his old guitar Tech the guitar player from Metal
Church was playing guitar from Metallica. They were a five
piece and is one of the tightest I've ever seen Metallica.
They were awesome. I got somebody saying that the reason

(01:23:25):
why the reason why I couldn't read the label is because,
to be fair, you're a rock jock. Unless the package
has pictures, you couldn't read it anyway. Oh that hurts, buddy. Anyway,
what are you doing with your free time in the
middle of the afternoon texting people get back to work?

(01:23:46):
Guys sitting around just waiting for me to screw up,
just like the person who sent me a text via
the Kowa Coming Spirit Health text line, which is five
six six nine zero. As soon as I screwed up
Mandy's name, they were all over me. At least this
one person was so and she forgave me. Okay, so
cut me some slack. We're going to talk to Marty Richardson.

(01:24:08):
He is the head of dog Nation. They do great
charity work through hockey. We're going to talk to him
about the Dog Bowl that's going on this weekend out
at the Edge of Ice Arena, and we're going to
give away some Metallica tickets before three o'clock this afternoon.
And that's all coming up next right here on eight
fifty KOA.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
I got my buddy Marty Richardson on the phone. Marty,
how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I am good.

Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
How are you doing, Greg?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
I'm all right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Marty is the main dog over at dog Nation. Matter
of fact, this is his creation. How long has dog
Nation been around?

Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
It officially started easy to remember one one one one
January first, twenty eleventh, so quite a few years, about
fourteen and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Now, that's crazy. You said you started in two thousan
one no eleven. Okay, yeah, I was like that math
does not work for me. So, so you guys do
do great things, and not only for the hockey community,
but you know, for law enforcement, for military folks with

(01:25:19):
brain trauma and cancer. And how do you go about
raising all this money to help people?

Speaker 7 (01:25:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
So we we primarily make armor. There's a lot of
incredibly generous folks out there that just send us money.
Here and there believing in our cause.

Speaker 8 (01:25:34):
But our big fund.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Big items are generated by fundraisers, and we're in the
midst of our biggest.

Speaker 8 (01:25:41):
One of the year. It's called the dog Ball.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
It's a hockey tournament that that goes for five days
and and the EDGI Serenum right now, and it'll generate
anywhere from three hundred and fifty to four hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Wow, and how do you how do you find candidates
to receive these these money?

Speaker 9 (01:26:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:26:02):
So at first it was kind of hard because people
didn't know who we were, but now it's it's not
hard at home. But that's a dog Nation dot org
and there's a tab on there that says apply for assistance.
And and just today, right before as I was literally
sitting on hold here, I got a text from uh uh,
a former recipient that's just just like like in the

(01:26:24):
last hour, so tough for him, but he said, how
do I nominate? And I shot him to send him
the lank and and hopefully help a little bit on
maybe some funeral expenses or something for for his his mom.
At this point, so.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Once again, what is that website so people can write
that down?

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
I know they want to.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's dog Nation dot orgon we don't know
how to spell that well here, so it's g a
W G nation dot org.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Now let's talk about the hockey tournament, all right. You
got a bunch of beer leaguers, you beer leaguers from
all over the date, even from out of state, and
you also have these really cool alumni games going on.

Speaker 6 (01:27:06):
Yeah, we actually even have more than that. We we
NHL has a thing called hockey is for everyone, and
not that they don't do that, but we try to
take that to a whole other level. So over this porch,
course of the week kind of start with that. Uh,
yesterday we had sled hockey, which is for disabled folks
paralyzed or or not able to use their legs or
missing legs. And and today we're gonna have special hockey,

(01:27:29):
which is Special Olympics. This afternoon tomorrow we're gonna have
another slid hockey, but it's going to be kids.

Speaker 8 (01:27:35):
It's going to be.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
Disabled kids playing able body kids, littleton hockey kids and
everybody will be in sleds so that'll be pretty cool.
Oh yeah, and then after that we actually have blind hockey,
and and last year Milan Heyduke, can I wore glasses
to emulate us having a site challenges and we played
against players from the US blind national team.

Speaker 8 (01:27:58):
So it's pretty fun.

Speaker 6 (01:27:59):
And in addition to that, we also have UH. We
have everything from the very lowest Beer League player all
the way up to guys that currently play in the
NHL are going to be playing in the Top Division
and u n C Double A guys. We we have
seven of the du Pioneers playing for our team called
the Top Dogs, and they're going to be playing tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:28:22):
Actually and UH and also.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
Mike Yes a month from the UH Shattle Kraken will
be on that team and Jacob McDonald that just set
the AHL record for goals for a defenseman in a
year for the Colorido Eagles right on the ice tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:28:37):
Yeah, so that's all really cool.

Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
And then on Sunday we have the Dog Legends playing
and that team is captain by Milan Heyduke and also
has Johnny Mitchell and Brett Clark and a few others
on it. And they that that team has over three
thousand NHL games on it on that roster and they're
going to be playing playing a group of firefighters also
known as the sacrificial lamps stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
It's all free to the public, right it is.

Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
Yeah, it's all three and we got we have auctions
going here, We've got a barbecue going here. And it's
really really cool side stories to this great because like
the the one of the a couple of kids are
selling hot dogs and different things like that, and whatever
they sell those for, they're not taking a penny. They're
just twelve year old boys and on it. They're giving

(01:29:29):
back to dog Nation And we've got we've got some
other kids doing that with lemonade.

Speaker 8 (01:29:32):
But we all everything that all of the high.

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
Level barbecues so and so forth will throw some of
the names Pauladoria, Brido lay pepsi Us Foods, cam Rock
Foods all fifed in for this so Vienna hot dogs.
We ended up paying not one penny for any of
the any of the food that we got and it
is probably in the ranger around twenty thousand in donations,

(01:29:57):
which we it's all free labored a to serve that.
And so you're seeing a lot of like really really
the best in humanity across the board.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
And you know it's going to be so hot this
weekend too. At least today and tomorrow. You know, get
out of the heat, jump into the rink, watch him hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
It's a it's a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
And uh you can go to dog nation dot org
to get the schedule too. If people just want to
come down and see some of these former pros play.

Speaker 6 (01:30:27):
Yeah, yeah, all three come on out and very accessible.
I'm not going to tell you you like speak for
those guys, but they're all really awesome about it. And
stick around and hang out a little bit and get
to meet some of these guys. It's really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Are you playing.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
I'm going to play in the blind game, So again
in a former do You Superstar Gabe Goce is.

Speaker 8 (01:30:52):
Also gonna we're gonna wear them.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
We're gonna wear the glasses and and I think he
is gonna have cataracts and I'm gonna have block out.

Speaker 7 (01:31:00):
So it's going to be kind of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
I've done that before.

Speaker 7 (01:31:02):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
It is very challenging.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
It's really cool to see players that have played blind hockey,
that are legally blind, that have played for a while,
how their other senses take over.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
It's incredible, it really is.

Speaker 6 (01:31:16):
It really isn't And what's really interesting about blind hockey
they're legally blind, but they can see a bit. But
they use a really big puck with a rattle in it.
And but the one player on the ice that has
to be one hundred percent blind, believe it or not.

Speaker 8 (01:31:30):
As the goalie, and so that's fair, and.

Speaker 6 (01:31:33):
So yeah, that's fair. But it's amazing how they pick
it up and they have a couple of interesting roles
on it. You can't really score a breakaway because if
you've come across the blue line, you have to complete
at least one after the blue line. And that's because
the goalies is one hundred percent blind. He wouldn't know
where you were, and so by passing that hockey hears

(01:31:53):
it and then he can square up it's it's and
they make amazing stage Greg like You're just like, wow,
how did he know that I was going to go
that way?

Speaker 8 (01:32:00):
And it's it's really really interesting to watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
And then I know you kind of touched on this,
but the accessibility of some of these former NHLers it
is pretty good. If people wanted to come down there
and say, you know, get Gabe's autograph or hey, Duke's autograph.

Speaker 6 (01:32:18):
Yeah, a hundred percent, and the games here a lot
of them being live streamed as well, live on YouTube.
You can find that link on our web page as well.
But they you can hear a lot of these guys
that are being doing the color commentary on those and
and some like folks, amateur and professional announcers are taking
care of that, and it's those are full professional broadcasts,

(01:32:41):
all part of the whole thing. Every single team gets
at least one game that way to feel like a
proper a day and and but really the crescendo of
this whole event is tomorrow at two thirty. It's called
the Survivor Game. And each year we do this game
and has a different theme, but it's a it's a
really special game played by men and women, referees, scorekeepers,
everybody involved is that survived life threatening injury or illness.

Speaker 8 (01:33:06):
And so the majority used to be.

Speaker 6 (01:33:09):
Are typically cancer survivors, but we have we have burned victims,
we have strokes, we have diseases, we have uh and
this year we have, believe it or not, ten different
people that all suffer traumatic brain injuries that will be
part of tomorrow's game. So it might not be the
most amazing hockey, but it is the most amazing hockey

(01:33:30):
at the same time. And and for those people in
that game, all were in positions where there their parents,
their families, their their parents, their siblings there, uh there
their brothers, their stillic aunts and uncles were really in
a position really to.

Speaker 8 (01:33:46):
Say goodbye to those individuals.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
And incredibly they learned how to walk again and communicate
again and different levels of of getting getting senses act.
But the really amazing thing is all four of those
are going to be playing on the ice tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
I love this sport. I love this sport. I love
the community. Uh, it's such a great bunch of people.
The folks that play at the folks that supported you know,
my kids played growing up, I play. Uh, it's just
a great bunch of people. Hockey folks are awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:34:21):
And uh yeah, and you are playing in this tournament
too yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Yeah, the goold squad.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
So the boys did all the heavy lifting and I'll
be there for the playoff games.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:34:33):
I think they went to and all already this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
They did they did.

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's good stuff. So you've got they've
set the table for you, Boddy, we do. Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
So, so when you when you were thinking about about
about a charity.

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
You know what led to this? Were you involved.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
With somebody who had a traumatic brain injury or an
accident or something and you were looking to help them out?
How did how did dog Nations start? So?

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
The Dog Nations started actually as a Beer League hockey team,
just like you were talking about what your goon squad,
but we were called the Dogs. In two thousand and nine,
I was captain of that team, and in a nine
day period, unbelievably, nine of our sixteen players were all
diagnosed with cancer.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:35:17):
And each time I would I would pass my hat
around the room and we might get.

Speaker 8 (01:35:22):
A couple hundred bucks in there. And I would then
rally the troops.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
And we would go to the hospital and go visit
Dan or Dave or Andy.

Speaker 8 (01:35:29):
And and it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
The fact that we gave him a couple of hundred bucks.
It was the fact that they had a bunch of
bodies that cared for them and.

Speaker 8 (01:35:38):
Helped in their recovering.

Speaker 6 (01:35:40):
Which really cool is all all three of those guys
are playing this weekend.

Speaker 8 (01:35:43):
And that was back in nine.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
And in that same year, unbelievably, same team, we had
another guy get sick and we thought it was cancer again,
but it turned out to be an autoimmune disease and
that took Jack Kelly's life six months later, and that
predit me to to reach out to other teammates and say, hey,
you know, we can't be the only team in the
world going through all this stuff. So we decided to

(01:36:08):
start a nonprofit called dog Nation Hockey Foundation, and I
keep people, if I would have known it would have
taken off this good, I would have thought of a
way cooler name, but we're kind of stuck with this.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
No, it means so much. It means so much.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Everybody knows you as as the head dog. A matter
of fact, I got a text right here it says
Marty from dog Nation is one of the greatest people
I've ever had the pleasure of knowing.

Speaker 6 (01:36:33):
Wow, now you're not going to cry here, Greg, So
that's that's pretty cool. So but yeah, that's really how
it started. And it really I didn't assume I was.
I was at a fancy schmancy corporate job at the time,
and I really didn't think this was going to be
going to be more than us. Maybe run a tournament
a year and raise a couple of bucks and help
the family here and there, but we're closing in on

(01:36:54):
over closing in on six million dollars to families in need.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
And that's such a full time job for you.

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
Yeah, I'm a CPA as well, so it's a little
bit of uh of, but I'm in a h I
retirement at the same time, but I do. It's probably
the busiest I've ever been in my life, even though
I'm allegedly sem I retired, so I'm out, but it's
it's really special. And I'm looking up around the rank
right here and I just see hundreds of different supporters

(01:37:27):
and people out there. And this year we had fifty
six different sponsors, like it was a huge and which
allows it is huge, especially mean great living. You know,
this business guy, I know how difficult it is right
now to rally money and because people are cutting back,
businesses are cutting back, and for us to be able
to get that type of support, it's humbling and it's

(01:37:50):
it's pretty cool to see that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
So how supportive have the Avalanche been.

Speaker 8 (01:37:56):
They've been great, And.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
Honestly, we have two pretty big name ambassadors with Milan Hadu,
Kenyon Hayda and those guys. Those guys are dear friends
of mine, but also huge I would say supporters. There's
a huge part of this and we wouldn't be able
to do it without them. And I'd be remissed not

(01:38:20):
to call up Gabe Landeskog and Jear Bennar and Joe
Sackic and really the list goes on, but those are
the ones that have really.

Speaker 8 (01:38:28):
Really stepped up.

Speaker 6 (01:38:29):
Mark Moser as well, where it's just a phone call
away to get a video for somebody going through something
tough or just just you know, going over to Joe's
house this past year, he calls it Kappy Joe Signing
Day and and I bring a pile of stuff over
and and it fills up his whole fitching table. And
this year he sold signed fifty six items and that

(01:38:51):
wasn't enough. So he went and went back in his office.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
And he goes, how about these?

Speaker 6 (01:38:55):
And they were programs from when he had never retired
and signed all those and gave me those to me too.
So these guys are all really we wouldn't be able
to have the success that we have without those guys,
and they're all there's tons of them here this weekend
and it's uh. And the other really cool thing people
ask me, will God, how much do you guys guys

(01:39:16):
paying like these appearances and different things like that. And
I kind of chuckle because we have never, once indognation time,
ever paid an ampiisy these guys. We create relationships, let
them get the buy in on that, and then once
once they're they're in. They they just do this and
they do it because they believe in it. And to

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me it's I mean, of course you could pay someone
to do this, but to me, it means way way
more that they're doing this and taking their own time
and they're own for that matter to be supportive. So
so yeah, across the board, amazing, amazing folks.

Speaker 8 (01:39:53):
And and uh, we have.

Speaker 6 (01:39:54):
A guys across the NHL and not too Clayton Keller
and Matt Duchane and and a few other guys. When
they score goals, they donate money every time they score.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
That's incredible. And it's it's dog Nation. It's a dog
Bowl this weekend out at the edge of Ice Arena.
And that is uh, that is like, uh what the
Simson King Carl Basically it's over there by the high school.

Speaker 6 (01:40:17):
Yeah, and so Totteridge High School, you got a huge.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
Huge, silent auction going on too, right with a lot
of these autographed memory b pieces.

Speaker 8 (01:40:27):
Yeah, I just walked out there.

Speaker 6 (01:40:28):
But these are also no costs to us, and I
just looked at him.

Speaker 8 (01:40:32):
Kind of quickly.

Speaker 6 (01:40:33):
Patrick Kaynes signed jersey, Nathan McKinnon signed jersey, Jared Bednar's
HUMBLET Bronco sign jersey, and then the Philadelphia Flyers really
came through Keith Jones, who who's a supporter as well.

Speaker 8 (01:40:49):
He's their president now former Avenue and Keith Keith Keith.

Speaker 6 (01:40:53):
Donated assigned Bobby Flart jersey. Oh wow, that's a classic, Yeah,
an absolute classic. So Dan Rudder donated a a Ralph
Bastrom sign sign jersey, which you can't get anymore because
uh Ralph bust who was the original owner of the
Colordio Eagles fast way several years ago. But I'm full
on like a very very amazing, very Montreal Canadian uh

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Hall of Famers. So it's uh, it's amazing what we
we have here. And when when I look even when
I look at it, I'm like, God, I can't believe.

Speaker 8 (01:41:27):
We got all of that stuff for free.

Speaker 6 (01:41:29):
But there's a there's amazing items here and the beauty
is whatever. It's a really really big deal to me
and the rest of the dog Nation to be able
to have these things donated because that gives us so
much more money to give to out to people that
need it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
And if you are somebody that needs it, you can
go to dog nation dot org and there is an
application tab to apply for for assistance right there one.

Speaker 6 (01:41:56):
Hundred percent percent And that just opens a kind of
a quick little questionnaire and you answer as well as
you can on there, and and well, we have a
committee that reviews that and looks at the need and
reaches out to the nominator and we we kind of
get all the information on there. And what we kind
of like to do is is not tell the person

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that's going to get the help, and we do that
as a kind of a surprise check it we caught.
We used to be able to pull that off every time.
But now if they get win that Dog Nations involved
easily the cats out of the bag. But that's okay.
We're still able to help people and and still amazingly
surprise quite a few people.

Speaker 8 (01:42:40):
And that we're going to over the.

Speaker 6 (01:42:41):
Course of this weekend, we'll be we'll be handing out
checks excess of one hundred thousand dollars stuff families.

Speaker 8 (01:42:47):
That don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:42:47):
We did one last night and that was a total surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Oh man, what is your jerker? I'm sure huh.

Speaker 6 (01:42:53):
Yeah, they all are, Yeah, they all.

Speaker 8 (01:42:55):
And this is a tough story to scale.

Speaker 6 (01:42:57):
Luster. Her husband had a heart affect, literally was just
upstairs in the bath and she was wondering what was
going on with Alan. She went upstairs and he had
passed away. And so this is a really really tough
story and her they have a daughter that's trendous player
and as you know, as having a son playing hockey
out expensive it is, and that daughter wasn't going to

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be able to play and she plays at the very
very highest level. Do you nd for a sixteen year
old girl in Colorado? And that was Pryce Rangings was
going to be out of the question, and we were
able to pay her daughter. She is last night.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
This is going on all weekend. It's free to the
public in all proceeds to go to Dog Nation to
help out people that we've been talking about with Marty
here on.

Speaker 4 (01:43:39):
Eight to fifty k away. We've got Dave Logan and
Ryan Edwards coming up there.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Talking Kaway Sports here on the big Bed eight fifty Marty,
We'll see you this weekend. Thank you for all you do.
You're such a pillar in the community. You're a great
hockey guy. And to pull all these resources together and
make such a great tournament of fun for not only
players but for it's just incredible and you deserve some credit.
A nice pat on the back from all of US

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hockey people. Thank you, buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:44:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
I look forward to seeing you this weekend and I'm
and hopefully tonight when we get the big boys out
on the ice.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Yeah, Marty, thanks for being on the show. You take care, buddy.
We'll see you out at the Edge Ice Arena. More
info at dog Nation dot org. All right, all right, Marty,
take care. You're welcome, my friend. Hey, I got those
Metallica take as I need to give away. And since
the Fox, which is the station that's celebrating thirty six

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years of being your classic rock station, Kaway sister station,
we're all owned by the same people.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
It's family.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
We're gonna take calling number thirty six because Grant looks bored.
Did I hit that right?

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Grant?

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
Are you bored? Buddy?

Speaker 7 (01:44:46):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
I was intrigued by that conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
All that awesome memory, well, yeah, that you can purchase
at the Silent.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Auction, and it's awesome. The people that it helps, it's
just beyond awesome. It really is. It's a great organization.
It's hockey people doing hockey things, and it's always selfless,
it really is. I just I love hockey people and
it's great. It's great support, great vibe. And we're looking
for calling thirty six. Do I need to tell the
number or I think three three seven one three eight

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five eight.

Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
Five caller thirty six.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
I've got Metallica tickets for you, compliments of Koway, and
that's for Friday night. Hey, it's been a pleasure. I
really appreciate all the help, Grant. You've been awesome. I
want to thank Mandy for allowing me to sit in
this chair and all of you for being nice to
me as well, and hopefully I'll be back.

Speaker 4 (01:45:34):
You're on eight fifty Koway