07-17-25 FULL SHOW - A Possible New GOP VP, Plus Epstein Won't Go Away

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I think I have that correct. You are correct, And
it's a revolving It's.

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A revolving door over there in the uh in the
producer's share. But you know what, I said this to
a Rod and I mean it. I'm gonna say it
as often as I can. What a great group of
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group since I've been here.

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I haven't said in a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
When I found out who was going to be filling in,
which is a nice change to take. It's it is
always nice when you have a really good team. So
I just wanted to I like to give you guys credit, because.

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Really good person on that nobody really knows what you
guys do anyway, right, So I just like to make
sure that you get credit for doing a good job
at the job that most people don't understand. At least
someone takes notice of it. There you go, You know,
I try. I started out on that side of the glass, Brant.
You know that.

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I tell everyone that I'm like, you're never going to
have a problem working with Mandy because she understands what
you have to do behind the glass.

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Yes, I have. You and Ryan Edwards are two of
those people. I have been there, so I know exactly
what that side of the glass is like. All right,
let's talk about the blog. It is fantastic.

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And I just realized I left a glaring omission from
the blog.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I will fix that in a moment.

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Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com. Mandy'sblog
dot com. If that confuses you, just go to Randy
Crumwell dot com, which is fantastic, funny. It just it,
as my late grandmother used to say, just tickles me
every time I hear it.

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Just tickles me. Grant tickles me pink.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
When you get there, go to the latest post section.
Look for the headline that says seven, seventeen to twenty
five blog a possible new GOPVP plus Epstein Won't go Away?
Click on that and here are the headlines you will
find within.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
I didn't someone who office half of America all with
ships and clipmans of that's going to press plat.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Today on the blog A bit more state GOP drama.
Why won't the Epstein case go away? Representative gave Evans
wants status for some illegal immigrants. GROC shows its bias, scrollings, scrolling.
The slum lords of CBZ management are not helping their case.
Why I love Aurora may Or Mike Kaufman. Motorcycle deaths

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are up in Colorado our western slope. Wildfires are growing,
so Wiser made a bad choice. The Renaissance Festival is
limiting ticket sales.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Trump says Coke will use real sugar now.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
Elon is offering a creepy sexual AI friend and kids
can get it. TikTok isn't going anywhere. Von Miller will
be a commander this year. The Fed is doing politics.
Syria backs off the Drus want a piece of mars
our brains. Get blood to where it's needed to think
when pretending to be a minority gets awful stuff published you,

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we might actually we might see actual action on the
lies of Brennan and Komy. Joe Rogan reminds us Reagan's best.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
What even is this? And now cute babies?

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
And I've got some really, you know, when a Rod's
not here, I don't have video help.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
So I am going.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
To give you videos of of cute little kids because
why not. Probably a dog video at some point, because
why not?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Do people great? Do you think there are people out
there don't like dog videos? I mean, if they don't,
there's something wrong with it. Even if you.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Don't like the actual dog, Like, there are things that
I want to watch a video of, Like I like
the idea of them, but I don't want the actuality
in my life, right, you know, I like watching cat videos,
but I don't want a cat.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (04:19):
You know, I I am allergic. I'm allergic and Chuck
is extremely allergic. Well why but I mean cats are
kind of jerks too, you know, they're kind of jerks.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think that's why I love them. Well, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Have, Yeah, I tend to buy dogs like that, not
my current dog who.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Is just like, here's the best thing ever, Mom, I
love you every day. I was walking her this morning.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
I have a one hundred and fifty five pounds Saint
Bernard and she's flufy and absolutely adorable.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
And I was walking here.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Today I was like, you know what, the muffet the
Muppet's really missed out by not having a Saint Bernard muppet,
because wouldn't that have.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Been amazing And they could have had the little the
little barrel around the neck and stuff.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
They really missed the boat not having a Saint Bernard muppett. Anyway,
that's not on the blog today Today. What I left
off the blog.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Like a moron.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
My good friend and longtime client, Rachel from Regent Revolutions
coming in. We're going to talk a little regenerative medicine.
So if you've got questions, we're going to do that.
At the one o'clock hour at twelve thirty, Richard Holdtworth
is joining us. Richard, a long time fixture in Republican politics,
has now thrown his hat into the ring to be

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the vice chair of the Colorado GOP. And I know
what you're thinking, Mandy, didn't we didn't we just didn't.
They just didn't we just have elections for that. Well
we did, and the vice chair very very quickly quit.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
And I.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
This is going to sound bad, considering that my job.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
In my view, this is what I this is my
view of our relationship, listener. In my view, my responsibility
to you is to learn about things, do a deeper
dive on stuff that you don't have a time to
do a deeper dive on, right, and then I can
translate it for you. I can help you understand it
or whatever. I can, you know, kind of help you
work through it. But when I saw the story and

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I don't even know it is like a month ago
or whatever, of the brand newly elected Colorado Vice chair
quitting in a fit a peak, I just didn't care.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Enough to even read it. I was like, Oh, okay,
I just don't care. I don't care. I really don't.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I'm so tired of even trying to follow the drama
in the Colorado Republican Party. And here's what we've got now.
The reason I'm having to retrol Tarfon is that now
we have two options.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
For the vice chair position.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Richard, who, as I said, longtime fixture in Colorado politics.
He's been in the legislature for forever. And then Mark Hampton,
who is part of Parker Conservatives and the doug County
I don't know if he's part of the Douglas County GOP.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I don't know that.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
I know he's with Parker Conservatives, and Mark is part
of the purity wing of the party, and the purity
wing thinks they're going to win by excluding more people.
And I have no beef with Mark on a personal level.
I've met him a few times and he seems very nice.
But I am so deeply over the let's get anyone

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that we don't think is republicanly enough out.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I'm just tired of it.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
It makes absolutely no sense none whatsoever. Anything that alienates
a possible member of your political party.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Is a bad move.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
And I just so I'm having Richard on today, but genuinely, I.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Just don't know if I care. At this point.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
All I want is for the Colorado Republican Party to
tell me what they're going to be doing to help
win in the midterms, That's all. Who are you going
to get to be your candidates? How are you getting
those candidates? How are you asking peopeople to run people
that are quality people without a bunch of weird skeletons
and crazy you know, social media posts like where are

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those people? They're there, somebody's got to find him. But
the drama is just ugh, just oh. So we'll talk
to Richard, find out what he brings to the table,
and we'll see what's going on that. What kind of
dog was that on Sesame Street?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
What that?

Speaker 8 (08:26):
That was?

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Just the big brown dog? Can you are you googling that?
Grant the big brown dog on Sesame Street. He was cute,
but he was kind of Saint bernardish. But the coloring
is all wrong.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
What do we say? Barkley? Yeah, is a Golden Retriever
and yellow lab mix. What what it says?

Speaker 6 (08:46):
Wait a minute, that can't be the dog they're talking about.
Hang on, let me see Barkley muppets.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Oh yeah, you're right.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Oh no, Barkley really does look like a Saint Bernard
he does. Wow, they missed the boat on that one completely.
So yeah. He was initially a straight dog, by the way,
frequenting Sesame Street from time to time, even had another
name on a different street block. Dudley, as such, has
care typically fell to many of the neighborhood residents. David said,

(09:18):
Barkley is as much my dog as anybody's dog, right, Yeah,
there you go. Originally called wolf Wolf, they changed his
name to Barkley in the premiere episode of the show's
tenth season, much more clever. Yeah, so there you go,
there you go. Yep, there's like a whole lore on Barkley.

(09:40):
Can I okay, let me just say this to my
fellow Gen xers and older okay gen Z and I
don't know, do millennials do this too. My daughter is
so obsessed with lore. What is lare Laur's backstory? Okay,
it's the backstory of anything, and it's you know, of
a character in a television show or you know, anything

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that is the backstory of anything else. And Generation Z
does not want you to mess with the lore.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Okay. They take that very seriously, like that is not
If they see their character doing something that's.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
You know, out of the lore, they get really mad.
And you know what, I support them in this.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Don't change the backstory when it gets inconvenient.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Figure it out.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I think I've ever really thought about that, but that
has always bothered me.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
I I that for me is just when it gets
really lazy, you know. Or I'm gonna use NCIS as
an example. It's a great show. I've watched it since
the very beginning, and I've watched it as it's gotten
worse over the years. And you can tell when they
get ahold batch of new writers because they just crap
all over the lore. And you're like, I'm sorry, do
you not have time to go back and watch the
last twenty years like I have?

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Or just call me. Soap operas used to do that.
They would just crap all over the lore.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Anyway, Mandy, did Jaguar sales drop ninety seven or ninety
eight percent? I've thought it was ninety seven percent, but
I'm not sure, Mandy. I heard Jonathan Steele this morning
urges drivers to move over early to the right lane
for an accident. Could you have the zipper merge talk
with him? But here's the thing, you guys, in that situation,
it's not an official zipper merge. Okay, when a lane

(11:17):
comes to an end, there's usually some kind of sign
that says merge. That's just like I think it should
be a zipper merge. But we've already discussed that. There
are really hateful people on the roadways who are just determined,
determined to make sure that you don't get in any
faster than they do, God forbid not.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
I've really been noticing a lot lately is the people
that get over when it's still a solid white line
and they're trying to merge over into the highway.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
They're like, what do you think this is going to benefit?
I do that, but only if I say, only if
I look at that spot.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
But wait a minute, only if I look in my
rear view mirror. Gonna have a lot of space back there.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking. Yeah, that's not what I do.
There's no point I am.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
I'm bringing back the wave, Grant, and I know you'll
join me in this. The wave when somebody does something
nice for you on the road that could be misconstrued.
If someone has bad vision, if you know what I mean,
maybe they only see the one finger.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
And they shouldn't be on the road anyway.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, Mandy Rolf the brown dog that played
the piano. But Rolf was not a Saint Bernard on
the Muppets. That's what I'm saying. They missed the way,
they missed an opportunity Anyway, We've got a couple of
things on the blog, but I want to start out
with the story that will not die, and it is
the Jeffrey Epstein story.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
And you guys know, I have been wildly frustrated by
this entire thing because, in.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
My view, you have two people, one that was convicted
of sex trafficking and one that was also being accused
of sex trafficking when he killed himself. And yet we're
being told by the federal government, the same federal government
that promised transparence on everything, that there is no list

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of people who were the recipients of the sex trafficking.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
You see.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
I mean, there are things here that really bother me.
But then I started I started reading. I'm reading all
of these articles from all of these right wing pundits
who are basically like Mandy. I mean, they don't use my.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Name, but they're like, Mandy, what are you doing worrying
about this? Come on?

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Focus on Trump's wins. It's so great, everything's vantasag And
I thought to myself, maybe I'm the outlier here. Maybe
it's just me that's bothered by the fact because all
of the people in this guy's rolodex were incredibly wealthy,
incredibly well connected.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
He knew everyone, He ran in.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Circles that none of us could remotely get into. And
he's believed to have taken young women flown them to
a private island along with a bunch.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Of other men where he's being accused of trafficking for sex.
But to whom and for me, it's just another example
of the two tiered system of justice that if you're
rich enough, you can get away with anything. If you're
Robert Kraft, your video of having a happy ending in
an Asian massage parlor will never see the light of day. Ever,

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it will never see the light of day.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
But if you're some schmoe with a with a plumbing
company in the same situation, you're gonna be on inside edition.
You know, it's just super frustrating, And a lot of
people voted for Donald Trump because they believed him when
he said that he was going to hold powerful people
to account. Now I understand the complexity of this situation
because the belief that every single person in Jeffrey Epstein's

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contact list is a sexual predator is clearly false, just statistically.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
You know, not everybody's the second predator. So you do risk, and.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
It's a big risk, and it's a risk that I
wouldn't want to be a part of.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
What if I have this guy on.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
The show and he's like, hey, can I let's just
exchange numbers if we ever need to, you know, get
in touch again, which happens more often than you would imagine,
you guys, And now my name's on his list. I
don't want my name out. I mean, I could absolutely
explain it away, but then the people that don't like
you are going to amplify it and make it seem
like you're some kind of sexual predator.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I see both sides of this issue.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
But the reality is is I don't think I'm alone
when I say I'm just I just am tired of
being treated like I'm stupid.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I'm so sick of being.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Treated like I'm too dumb to understand and I just
need to defer to my betters. And I think that's
the frustration that the American people are having right now.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Trump is calling his own supporters weaklings for falling for
a hoax. Okay, which part of it is a hoax?
Because if it's a hoax, there's a woman in prison
for twenty years for something that didn't happen. If it's
not a hoax entirely, then explain to us which part
of the he took young women to an island or

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to his brownstone and made them.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Have sex with older men. That doesn't seem to be really.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
In dispute, because again, someone's in prison for twenty years
because of that.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
So if that part's a hoax, just share it.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Tell us which part We're too dumb to understand, because
from where I'm sitting, the federal government obviously thought it
was big enough of a problem that they filed charges
against Jeffrey Epstein and kept him in prison rather than
allowing him to bond out.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
So where did all that go?

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Was it such a bad case that they were never
going to win it in the first place?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I mean, I just I don't know.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Now this Texter said Mandy Epstein, who cares he's dead,
Get over it.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
It's not about.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
Epstein, not remotely about Jeffrey Epstein. And that gross oversimplification
of everything I just said clearly says to me that
you have decided, as a Trump supporter to just pretend
like it doesn't make him a difference at all.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
And I'd love for you to ask yourself if this.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Was Biden working over time to now tell you that
there was no there there, how would you feel about it?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know?

Speaker 6 (17:28):
I just eh, Mandy, Democrats didn't sert this hoax. He's
a lying sack of you know what, Mandy, There's really
only one name on that list that is a huge problem,
and you're a stupid weakling if you disagree.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
See, I don't think Trump is like utilize this guy's services.
I just don't.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
I don't think Trump had any problem getting young women
on his own, as evidenced by the ease with which
one Miss Stormy Daniels hopped into bed with him while
his wife was pregnant. I just I don't see him
being that guy. And I'm not a huge fan, so
you you know, But then again, I don't know who
would have seen Prince Andrew being a creep who knows

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Mandy is.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Mandy.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Trump is a pathological liar. He lies about things that
don't need to be lied about. I agree with that
every person on that list will be persecuted.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Prosecutor of persecutre waite. See you, guys, I said this yesterday.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
If you send text messages in two separate texts. They
don't come in together. And I know you guys.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Don't realize this, but god, it drives me crazy.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
So if you write something in two text messages and
I can't figure it out, I'm never gonna read your
text again. And I can see your phone number, and
for whatever reason, my brain can remember.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
These phone numbers.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
I can tell you who the most obnoxious text masters
are by the last four digits of their numbers. I
can read a text and know whose number it's going
to be. That's how consistently awful some of you are,
just to let you know. According to the Gossip Rags,
his first sexual experience with the first lady was on
Jeff's plane. Okay, she was an adult. I mean, I mean,

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I'm just gonna say it. I would never in a
million years on a commercial airliner have sex with anybody
else because those planes are gross, the bathrooms are disgusting,
and everyone knows what you're doing. But private jet, just
me and Chuck come on, like you guys, wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Totally, would totally.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Go right to the phones because he's a familiar voice
and face for many A long time legislator and now
he wants to be the vice chair of the Colorado GOP.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Richard Holtorf, Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
Thank you Mandy for having me, and thank you for
putting on a program that's full of eye energy and
a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Well, I got.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Energy galore, Richard. I've had way too much caffeine today,
so let's just jump right in. You've been how long
have you been involved in just politics overall and the
Republican politics specifically.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Well, I started in the nineties after I came off
of active duty, serving on the County Central Committee and
spent a lot of time in longolder Republican activities in
my whole county of Washington County. I'm currently the Washington
County Chair and then I migrated up to state politics.
In stay nineteen, I ran for a House District sixty

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four and for the last five years I've served in
the State House, and my last term I was the
House looking a whip on the leadership team. And then
I ran for Congress and Lauren beat me. She beat everybody.
And now I'm a free agent and I want to
help Colorado Republicans win because winning is everything. So I'm

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gonna run for this position, and the election's on.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
And of course the executive committee, the State Executive Committee
and State Committee gets to vote on this.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Correct.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
Yeah, there's a little over five hundred delegates that are
on the state Central Command at vote, and those are
the county chairs, vice chairs and secretaris and also the
bonus members for the large counties, all Republicans, all registered
Republicans that are in leadership in the sixty four counties
in the state, and they're the ones to get to
vote and pick the executive team of chair, vice chair,

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and secretary.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Let's jump right in.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Let me ask this difficult question because your opponent in
the vice chair race is part of a wing of
the party that would like to see more political purity
out of the Colorado Republican Party. For lack of a
better way to put it, how do you propose to
bring in the folks that would rather see more purity

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while continuing to try and grow the party in order
to get Republicans elected.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
It feels like an impossible task. How do you do it?

Speaker 7 (22:01):
Well, that is a thousand dollars question. But the first
thing we have to do is remember Ron Reagan is
the one that said, you know, Republicans are a big ten.
We need to be a big ten party. And let's
talk about for those far right maga Republicans that may
be in this camp, Let's remember that Donald Trump was
a Democrat at one time. Ron Reagan was a Democrat

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at one time. So if you're a Trumpster and you
want to cancel everybody out because you're not far enough right,
or you're not red enough, your color of bread isn't
dark enough, you might want to recon rethink the premise
that you're standing on with respect to what you're trying
to accomplish. Now, what we have to do and this
is what I'm going to bring as a leader in

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the State Executive Committee, is remember, let's go back to
the Indian Wars. Remember all the tribes of Indians. For decades,
if not centuries, there was many tribal in fighting. There
was a lot of contested tribes. But when the Americans
started moving west, all of a sudden and they began
working together. So we need to remember that the true

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enemy of Colorado and the Republicans of Colorado and even
unaffiliateds and Democrats are the fight far right, excuse me,
far left, radical progressing, woke socialist democrats that are truly
changing this state in a way that we don't want
Colorado changed. So we need to sit down, break bread,

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smoke the peace pipe figuratively seeking, and say, okay, let's
focus on who is really destroying what was Colorado?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
The Colorado?

Speaker 7 (23:35):
And I grew up in the Colorado I knew, grew
up and loved and still love the Rocky Mountain West,
the Western States. That's what I wanted to work for
and that's where it started. And then we go from there,
working collaboratively together, we can have our inviting, but we
need to keep that within ourselves, not in the public square,

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and certainly not put the dirty lottery out all the
way on the on the on the law so everyone
can see it.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I agree with you on that very much.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
But it seems, as I said, to be an insurmountable problem.
But what would you do as vice chair to work
with the chair and the other officers in the executive committee?
How would you support Republicans in the state running for office?
What would be the strategy that you'd like to see
the party employee?

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Well, let's start out with the fact that we have
to have good candidates and electrical candidates, and the candidates
have to be trained. So we need to go out
there and work to find those candidates. And you got
to have your heart in this.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Running as a.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Candidate is really hard. It takes all your energy, it
takes a lot of your financial resources. And they need
to know these candidates if the state party has their
back and they don't want people stab them in the
back or calling them a rhino or see them they're
not read enough when they're huntling trying to win a
district that may even be a blue district. I believe
democrat populated. So that's where we have to start nderstanding

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that we have to think strategically about those things. Now.
I will also tell you that the way candidates get elected.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Is number one.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
That need resources, So we need to put resources, financial
resources behind the candidates. We need to get away from
this litigation game that's being played hit for tat lawyers
getting rich, Republican candidates not getting the money because the
lawyers at three hundred to five hundred dollars an hour
are lining their filthy pockets with all the money that
the state Party and also other organizations are having to

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pay to continue this circular litigation so I'm going to
encourage and say we need to walk away from the
lawsuits and start walking into getting mine Kennids. It took
the hundreds of thousands of dollars literally over a quarter million,
between a quarter million and a half million dollars that
have gone into litigation over the last four years, and
put that into candidates. The state House would look much

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different right now, the state Senate would look much dinner
right now, and we would have a different calculus with
Republicans in the state of Colorado. And remember, man, either
the primary mission or the state party is to get
state elected officials, excuse me, state elected officials elected that
are Republicans, statewide, state House, state senant. And in twenty

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twenty six we have state wide elections. We have the governor,
lieutenant governor, attorney general, secretary treasurer, and also secretary of State. Now,
which one of those do you think is the most
important position that Colorado Republicans need a target on those states.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Secretary of State.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
I know it's secretary of State because already there's two
hard left women who have thrown their hat in the
ring for that seat that is being vacated by what
I hope will go down as the worst secretary of
State in the history of Colorado. In Jennet Griswold, She's
been an abject failure and a disaster.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
And you're right. So let me ask you this though.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
Why are you asking me that question?

Speaker 8 (26:57):
So?

Speaker 7 (26:58):
What are we doing with a twenty plus candidate that
want to run to the governor? Everyone wants to move
in the governor's mansion. We need to strategically think and
have conversations with these individuals to say, hey, you know,
the most important position as a secretary of state, what's
one of you would relook your objective is politically and
run for that position that's electable, that can give the

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Democrats to run for their money in a blue state.
That might be the most important conversation we have because
with that election integrity, we're still rowing the vote upstream
and I think that's so critical. I have Tena Peters
about that one.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, all in prison.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
Yeah, I don't want to talk about Tina Peters because
I I let's not talk about Tina Peters.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
One last questions duplicated and it's not a good stuff.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, let's just move on.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Let's ask me what I'm gonna ask you one more question,
and that is structurally, in Colorado, the Democrats have a
significant advantage because they've built up all of these organizations
like progress Now, like all of these other little offshoots
to do their dirty work of you know, mixing things
up on social media and stuff like that. We are
way behind. Is the Colorado GOP can the Colorado GOP

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help people who want to start such organizations move them forward.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Absolutely, with the right leadership, we can do all of
those things. You know, we have wind Read, we have
Road to Red, and we have this crazy thing called
Rhino Watch that does nothing but attack Republicans generally, that's
all they do. And my opponent actually spends a lot
of time writing, editing, and publishing in rhino Watch, which

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does nothing to build bridges. It just burns bridges, which
does nothing to men business. It just breaks fences. So
that's the kind of leadership I'm going to bring. And also,
look strategically, we could take that Rhino Watch, turn it
around and use it as a vehicle to point out
all the hypocrisy of the Democrats. Let's take a look

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at what's happening with respect to the budget now in
the special session. Well, the Democrats spent all this money,
banking on all the federal money coming in and backfilling
all the many things they wanted to do, and they've
raised the state budget even greater, now forty one, forty two,
forty three billion dollars, and now all of a sudden
they have a problem because the money's not going to

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come in. Okay, whose fault is that? Where is the
messaging across Colorado that says, hey, you know what, if
the progressive left Democrats and the governor wouldn't have spent
so much money, we wouldn't have a crossis if they
weren't taking money out of cash reserves at the state level,
which they did and have done, we'd have greater reserves

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and surplus. Well, Richard, we wouldn't have to have this crisis.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I don't disagree with you on anything you just said.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
And if you're running to show Republicans, if you're on
this show to show Republicans that you can push back
on those narratives, you've done a fine job. But I
will tell you more than one person on my tech
fine said he just lost me when he mentioned Tina.
I'm telling you, I know she has her supporters. I
don't think that that is a topic for the Republican
Party to bring up at any point because it is

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very divisive even among Republicans.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
But I appreciate your time.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
I understand that. You know, Tina made the bed, she's
sleeping in and she's got to sleep in it. Yeah,
we understand that. And that's not a twenty twenty sixth
election subject. I've told people we got to move on
beyond that. People on the far right and the radical
right say no, we got to make that a companie issue.
I say, no, we're moving on from that. But that
election integrity issue is so important.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I agree, But Richard, I'm out of time. No, I'm
out of time. Richard Holdtorf.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
My guest, if you are part of the State Committee,
you have a chance to vote on Monday for Richard
Holdtorf or Mark Hampton. And Richard, I think she did
a good job letting people know what you'd be all around.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
Please go to Holdport for Colorado my Facebook Holdthorf fo
or Colorado and take a look at the things that
I've published. I've got my top ten reasons to vote
for Richard HOLDTHORPGLP Vice Chair. It's on my Facebook. You
need to take a look at all, right, Richard, so
many important things.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
I appreciate you, man. I'll talk to you later. All right, back,
I want to talk about this very very quickly. Representative
Gabe Evans. We're going to talk about this more extensively
as more information comes out. But this is going to
be one of those things that is going to be
wildly unpopular, and yet I'm going.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
To support it, and I'll tell you why.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
Gabe Evans has put forth a proposal that would give
some kind of legal status to illegal immigrants who have
been living here and working here, who have been here
longer than five years. It does not give them a
path to citizenship currently. It does, however, give them the
ability to work and have the knowledge that they will
be able to continue working in the United States. They

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would have to pay a seven thousand dollars fine, they
would have to pay basically restitution for the process that
they skipped over, but they would be allowed to stay
in the United States, which would stabilize certain workforce is
like those in agriculture, which have been really clabbered as
people have stopped coming to work because they're all working

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under the same Social Security number. That's the reality. One
of the things that in this bill that I think
is stupid, it's as employers will be required to use everify.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
How about this.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
How about we put a system in place where if
fourteen people use the same social Security number, it flags
no one's looking for the same job fourteen times over. Okay,
why don't we fix everify because everyone is required to
use Everify? Now, anyway, I know a lot of people
are gonna see this and go.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's innessy, no way, kick them all out.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Send them all home. You guys, that's not gonna happen.
It's simply not gonna happen. The reality is is that
you can wish it and want it and poop in
the other. But wish and want in one hand, poop
in the other, see which one fills up first. My
dad used to say that all the time. You know,
it's not gonna happen. So how do we fix this system?
How do we fix this program? Here's what I'd like

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to have appen. First of all, we actually have real
money for border security in the bill, in the.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Big beautiful bill.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
So much as I hate so many things about that bill,
there's real money for border security.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
There.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
The second thing we have to do is figure out
how to allow people who want to come over and
pick crops or work in the fields, or do all
the things that we really don't want to do anymore
because they don't pay well. We have to figure out
a way for them to get the kind of certification
that they need that they can go back and forth
and see their families. You'd be shocked at how many
of these folks. They don't want to become American citizens.

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They want to come here, they want to work, they
want to send a bunch of money back home.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
They want to build a house.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
They want to do that for twenty years, and they
want to go home and retire because they've made enough
money to retire at that point. They don't want to stay,
but they need some kind of status. But it's all
bound up in politics. And at least gave Evans, who,
by the way, is in one of the most competitive
congressional districts in the country with a forty percent rate

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of Hispanics and Latinos. Okay, so he's in a very
very Hispanic and Latino district. A lot of agriculture in
his district. This is a good political move by Gabe Evans,
if the Republicans in the eighth don't throw a fit
and try and hold this against him.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
So let's just say, in.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
The world where we all want everybody thrown out of
the country at one time, which is never going to happen,
what is the next best thing? How do we stabilize
the industries that are being hurt right now? We do
have crops that are going unpicked.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
We just do.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
It's a fact of It's a fact of life. And
we don't have robotics where it needs to be to
be able to pick delicate fruit.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
That's the thing.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
You know, there's a lot of machinery in farming that
didn't exist not that long ago. But the problem with
robotic fruit picking is when you're talking about something like
a strawberry or a soft fruit, you can't have a
mechanical operation because it bruises the fruit, so then you
spoil the crops. So there's a lot of things that
we have to think about. I'm going to come back
to this, but I'm going to try and get Evan's

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on the show to talk about this so we can
hear exactly from him what he thinks needs to happen.
And why I think this is politically a great move
for him. In the eighth I really do. But that
being said, do you have a better idea it's actually doable, because.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Right now I'm not sure I do.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
We'll be right back taking your questions about regenerative medicine
right after this.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
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Ninem got wait say ty Donald, you sad bab Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
The second hour of the show. And I'm pleasing punch
to see my longtime friend and owner of Regan Revolution
Rachel on the show. Oh no, I forgot, I keep
unmarrying you. Okay.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
I've known Rachel since before she was married to her
lovely husband, who is a delight. But I I can
never remember what your name is now, so I probably
should just put that on my phone correctly and it
would be okay. You guys know I love Regen Revolution.
I tell people all the time, like I'm not just
an endorser, I'm like an evangelist because of all the
stuff you guys have done for me. But the thing
that I like the most about what you guys do

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is that it's always an evolutionary process. There's always another
thing that you guys are looking on. You're tweaking the protocol,
you're figuring out what's working best for your patients. What's
some of the cool stuff that you guys have been
doing or is coming down the pike. And if people
want questions about regenerative medicine, our provider Roslin's going to

(36:48):
be joining us in about five minutes, so text me
your questions at five six.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Six nine oh.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
That's five six six nine oh, and we'll get them
in about five minutes.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
But what's what's happening.

Speaker 9 (36:58):
It's such a cool time to be in this field.
It's such an exciting field. I mean, things are happening
so quickly, and there's so much energy and expenditure going
into research and study and pushing for legislative changes with
the products that we're using too.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
So it's a fun time to be there.

Speaker 9 (37:15):
I think some of the fun stuff that we're starting
to see, well, one, the products that we're able to
use for regenerative medicine are just getting better and better
and better and better and stronger and more effective. And
we're at a point now where we're able to actually
offer an outcome promise on the on the things that
we deliver.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Wow, that's so cool.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
That's backed up by the lab that we use because
they have such confidence in their products.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
And well it's kind of new.

Speaker 9 (37:43):
I mean, they designated us as a premium partner of
THEIRS at the end of May, and so it's pretty news.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Because here's the thing, Like, let's be real, not everything
works for everybody. You guys get great results for most
of the patients that you see, but just like some
people are going to have any replacement fail, right, somebody's
not going to respond well to cancer treatments.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
It doesn't work for anybody. So what is the promise now?

Speaker 9 (38:08):
Yeah, So the thing about regenerative medicine is if a
little works, a little or some at all.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
If it works, a little, more will work more.

Speaker 9 (38:16):
Okay, it's just depending on how long somebody has let
something go, they might need more.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
And more is expensive and so it's a.

Speaker 9 (38:24):
Deterrent to people to get more, even though more would help, right,
And so our supplier is able to kind of back
us up now and if somebody.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Needs more, they send it. Oh, that's fantastic. So it's
really cool.

Speaker 9 (38:34):
I think it takes a lot of the gulp factor
out of deciding to go down this road because they're like, well,
it's a lot of money, what if it doesn't work?
And in our office, I mean, we don't really see that.
It's more like varying degrees of success. You know, it's
been a long time since we had a patient where
this just didn't work at all. You know, if they

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follow the protocols that we instruct them to follow, and
they do all the things, and they use their home
equipment and they you know, they do all the things.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
We're seeing varying degrees of.

Speaker 9 (39:05):
Success for pretty much everyone that comes in, which is great.
And if you know, and we're now able to kind
of say to people, hey, we'll treat you till you're better.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
Well, somebody just asked, this is a big question, and
it's always about cost, and I wanted to start with
what is happening on the insurance front when it comes
to things like platelet rich plasma, Because there's a process
that you go through depending on your needs and how
degraded your joint is and everything, but a lot of
times it will include things like PRP, which is plate

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lit rich plasma. Some insurances are starting to cover some
of this stuff. What's changing on that front?

Speaker 9 (39:38):
I mean, we have not successfully built a PRP shot
to an insurance company and gotten paid.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Yet. We have not successfully gotten paid.

Speaker 9 (39:46):
We have gotten prior authorization from insurance companies that say yes,
go ahead, we'll pay, and then we send the bill
and they don't pay.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
So that's what's happening right now.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
For example, like with Trycare for veterans, they will cover PRP, but.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Only in certain only in the shoulders. They won't cover it.

Speaker 9 (40:05):
In the knees or the hips or the feed or
anywhere else. If somebody needs it, and then we'll call
and we'll get pre prior authorization for it. But like
I said, we just haven't successfully gotten paid yet.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
We're trying. We're trying.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
So what are we looking at cost wise? Because that's
the first thing that people ask.

Speaker 9 (40:20):
I think it really kind of depends on what a
person needs, right, But I would say on average, you
can expect if you're doing the full regenerative protocol on
somebody and they're advanced enough to where they're kind of
being recommended. The strongest thing we've got. You're probably looking
at around seven to ten thousand dollars per joint, right
if you are doing more than one joint at a time.

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We can save the patient money on that because we're
able to kind of use the same thing in multiple
joints and the rehab that goes along with those treatments
that makes them so successful. We're doing the same rehab
on somebody whether they're doing one joint or ten, so
you definitely save money by doing more than one joint.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
At a time.

Speaker 9 (41:03):
There are other products though, that are now coming to
market that are just getting really good results that are
less expensive, and so we're just starting to kind of
integrate those into the things that we're doing and seeing
really good success.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Products that we've used in aesthetics.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
For a while for facial rejuvenation and hair restoration and
things like that, we're starting to be able to get
those in enough of the quantity that we can use
them in orthopedic applications also.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
So it's a wonderful time to be in regenerative medicine
and joining us now the wonderful provider. She is a
nurse practitioner who has been in orthopedics for some time.
She is now going to be the person who will
be injecting you. And Roslin we've not met yet, but
we will be meeting soon. I've got some scraggly cartilage
that I'd like to get taken care of. But I'd
love to ask you this question from a texture what

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can be done, if anything, for spinal stenosis.

Speaker 10 (41:54):
So spinal synosis, you know, we could do some regenerative
medicine near the spot, and it does float around into
that area. But if the actual spinal canal is stenautic,
you know, we need to kind of come in, look
at some imaging, get a better picture of what's going
on in there, and then kind of come up with

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a comprehensive plan that sounds tough.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
I mean, spines seem like they would be tough.

Speaker 10 (42:21):
Yeah, And if it depends, you know, we have to
look at the whole picture, gets an imaging, chat with
the patients who kind of sent thems they're having, and
come up with a plan. But you can do the
regenerative medicine products near the spine. We do not go
into the spine, okay, but and it does float around
to the area where you're treating.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
This one is about neuropathy, and Mandy, my nerve doctor
told me there's nothing to be done about peripheral neuropathy.
Yet I see advertisements that say it can be treated.
Is there any treatment your guests can say has worked?
Have you guys had success with peripheral neuropathy, because this
one's tough.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
Ab absolutely. Actually, we just had a patient to us
today or yesterday, yes, yesterday, and yeah, and said I
don't have like the Perferle neuropathy and my lower extremities
is gone. So what we do is we do peer
p or the peer pin and a jelly and we
put it. We bathe next to the nerves, either in

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the lower extremities or the upper extremities, and we have
a protocol for that. And yes, people are sealing their
nerves coming back, people are having less pain, pens and needles, hangling, numbness,
all that. It's it's been incredible.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
We were having like a fun chat about that today
because this particular patient is she was a really tough
case actually, and she had severe neuropathy and she was
so concerned about something else yesterday that she said, oh well,
doctor Cook says, I don't have dropathy anymorebit, but.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I now I'm concerned about this. I'm like, hold on,
can we just stop and talk about the fact.

Speaker 9 (43:56):
That you don't have neuropathy anymore? Like she was a
really severe case. That was a big win for us.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Excellent. Are any treatments covered by medicare.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Regenerative treatments?

Speaker 9 (44:08):
Know, but there are a lot of things in our
office that are covered by Medicare. We've been Medicare providers
for over twenty years. They cover chiropractic, they cover some
of the rehab that we do. They cover different types
of medical injections that we do. They cover your braces,
like if you need knee braces or back braces, they
cover those.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
So they'll cover a lot of stuff. There's just some
stuff they don't cover.

Speaker 9 (44:29):
But whatever they cover, I mean, we will bill it
and try to get them to pay for it.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Medicare is great. It's just you know, they don't pay
for regenerative treatments.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
This text asks specifically, why are insurance companies reluctant or
refuse to cover PRP in stem cell treatments? Is it
just because they're new and they don't have to yet?

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I think that's bs okay.

Speaker 9 (44:50):
These six these they that's just the excuse they use,
like it's experimental. Spinal decompression is a good example. It's
that it's experimental that's been around for like forty years.
It's not experimental. They just don't pay for it.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
It's not new. We've been doing this for a long time, Roslin.
How long have you been doing these injections?

Speaker 10 (45:10):
Five years?

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, and we've been you, I have been doing at
least ten because that's what I had my knees done.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
Right, same, and so my my ne's done eleven years ago.
Actually yeah, and I just now got reinjected with the
product that we have now that's current and oh my god.
I mean I'm playing tennis like three days a week now,
which I wasn't able to do before. I think insurance
doesn't pay for it because we saw change in the
late nineties early two thousands where insurance companies just stopped

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covering things that are preventative. They used to cover massage,
they used to cover acupuncture, they used to cover hier
practic like seventy five one hundred visits a year, they
just stopped covering it.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Why that is, you know, I have my own thoughts
about that, but they.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Cover the treatment of sickness symptoms, not the underlying or
preventive ways to stop. They cover drugs and surgery. Okay,
I got one for you. Can anything been done with
a torn rotator cuff? And let me ask this follow
up now, Texter, is it a full tear, a partial tear?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Is it a full rupture? What do we look at?

Speaker 10 (46:12):
That would be my question.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Yeah, so let's let's assume it's a partial tear. Let's
let's start there and then we'll move to full tear.
Can can you fix that? Because nobody wants rotator cuff surgery.

Speaker 10 (46:22):
Yeah, so we can definitely help with that symptom that
prolonged surgery. Regenerative medicine when you're doing it in the
area where you have a partial tear more slight tear,
your regenitive cells from within your body plus the medications
we're putting in are doing the work in that area,
and they do you do repeat imaging and it shows

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that the partial tear is either less or healed, you know,
and then we do the rehab here and people are
prolonging surgery or not having to have surgery. So yeah,
regiinative medicine does help the tears.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
I will wait. But a full rupture, that's something you
have to have.

Speaker 10 (46:59):
That's different. Okay, a full rupture, it's going to be
very difficult to repair that. Regenerative medicine, but tears absolutely, okay,
this one to help with that. But I mean, you know,
we'd have to look at some imaging and kind of
see what all is entailed in that, right, A lot
of different muscles and the rotator cuffs.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
This is an interesting question. Are treatment successful in people
with MS? Not for the MS, but like ane, can
someone who has kind of a you know, degenerative neurological
disease get joint relief even if they don't get relief
for the over you know, the other issue.

Speaker 10 (47:38):
Yeah, because we're we're helping repair the joint right right, Yeah,
those kind of disease processes. There are certain things that
aren't going to be managed by this, but you know,
we definitely have some IV's that can help them feel better.
And then if we're trying to fix a joint, absolutely
they can have repair and regeneration and that from the

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products we're using in the treatment we do.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
This text message says Mandy, my husband got PRP injections
and stem cells in both his two hips, two knees
and back about three years ago and he is pain
free now. But he does regularly work out and does
physical therapy, stretches and strength exercises throughout the week. Also,
he did have to get his right hip replaced because
it was too far gone, but he's completely pain free

(48:24):
in the other hip, two knees and back. We're so
thankful for regenerative medicine. So yes, it does work awesome.
Here's one Uh what about shoulder impingements? And I don't
know what I don't I know the word. I don't
actually know what that is though. What is the shoulder impingement?

Speaker 10 (48:42):
So when you start to have some degeneration in the joint,
or if you have some tears that are impeding, or
your humor us goes up and attaches into that shoulder joint.
I mean it can get to where if the joint
gets smaller, the humorous goes up in further and can
shift forward or backwards. God, it means when you reach
your arm out to the side, you can't get it

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all the way up or to the front because you know,
I don't have the way the joint work. You learn
impinge there you know, it can't get anyway. So yeah,
we've had people with that, you know, looking at X
rays and they have that going on, and we do
the PRP or the PRP nano jelly in there and
it you know, it helps rebuild and regenerate. So actually

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when we do follow up x rays, you know, six
months out, a year out, it shows that there have
more space in there. And then all the rehab cairo
we do here, it's a comprehensive system and yep, they
get better range of motion, decrease pain.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
I do want to say I've talked to people who
have used other regenerative companies, not just in this area
but in other parts of the country. What you guys do, it's.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
A full physical therapy rehab chiropractice. Nobody else does that,
and I actually think that is what separates your practice
here from pretty much anybody else because it's not like
here's your shot and go on your way. It's like
we're going to get you straightened out, where I think
it's your body straightened out. What I mean, that's obviously

(50:07):
a feature, not a bug, right, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (50:10):
I mean I think that's something that we're constantly working
on how to integrate all these treatments in the shortest
possible time so that patients can come in for a visit,
spend an hour or ninety minutes there, get all of
this stuff. Because if you tell a patient, hey, I'll
give you this injection, but you really need to go
do this pete, or you really need to go over
here and do these these things.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Patients just don't do it because they're all the time.

Speaker 9 (50:32):
So if we can get we cram as much treatment
into them as we can while they're there. And I
think you know what you said about not a lot
of people doing this. I mean people drive to our
clinic from so far away.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
We have people that come up. I mean, it's no joke.

Speaker 9 (50:50):
And I think you know that is by design, and
that's our commitment to just giving people a whole body
solution that will last a long time instead of something
that I'll you know this.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Stexter said, do they have any locations up north? My
knees are trashed, but Denver's too far from me. They're
in Arvada. They have a beautiful office in Nevada that
is easy to get to from major highways. Any plans
for expansion down my meat that would be lovely. We've
talked about the work and my needs. My needs require
Regen revolutions south of town.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
We're working on it.

Speaker 9 (51:23):
If anybody wants to help fund that expansion to get
me a cause? Okay, am I taking calls on the
funding of the expansion Rosland.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I got a question.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Can persons who had cancer get PRP or stem cells?

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Are they?

Speaker 6 (51:37):
Are there any exclusionary medical conditions where people should not
get this kind of treatment?

Speaker 10 (51:43):
So the contra indications with receiving any of the stem
cell products man OPAREPGLI or stem cells is recent history
of cancer within five years?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (51:56):
Or organ transplants? Oh to get their own blood so
we can do PRP the play ridge plasma with their
own blood.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
Yeah, because PRP are just recycling. You're not bringing in
any any sort of different things. There's a foreign yeah
text or if it's so, if it's been more than
five years since a cancer incident, that would.

Speaker 10 (52:16):
Be okay a remission.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah, Okay, Well I'm trying to get the rest of these.
We've got a couple of minutes left.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
I have cartilage damage in the ankle making running painful.
I've done PRP which didn't have an effect, and was
wondering if stem cell works well in the ankles, because
ankles that seems like a tough one.

Speaker 10 (52:40):
Yeah, I mean it works well in any area of
the body. You know, they're similar products but different. And
if they've tried the PRP, I think it would be
worth trying the stem cell for sure, or the PRP
nano jelly before you know, going anything more invasive.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
This question said anything about bunyan's surgery for that sounds awful,
says this texter.

Speaker 10 (53:08):
Well, I mean the bunyan is actually bone overgrowth right side.
We can help with the pain piece of it, for sure.

Speaker 8 (53:17):
You know.

Speaker 10 (53:18):
That's what we could do is help with the pain
around there, But the bunyan is something that we medically
can't fix with parp okay.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
As a matter of fact, I do. I told Rachel
this story. So Chuck had to go back and see
his orthopedis. Chuck had has hip treated like two years ago,
and after having a lot of hip pain, and he
went back to his orthopedis and his orthopedis had taken
X rays like two and a half years ago, and
he said, let's just go ahead and do the X
rays of both your hips. See what's going on.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Two and a half years ago, his orthopedis said, you're
probably going to need a hip replacement soon. When he
went back, all of the rough edges on the edges
of his bone were completely smooth, and he had gotten
so much space within the joint that his orthopedis said,
don't need a hip replacement like you have. He has
some kind of soft tissue situation that's causing pain.

Speaker 10 (54:04):
That's you know, yeah, yeah, and so yeah, the the
Regennat of medicine helped you know, that joint get healthy
and provide more space in there.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
It's it's pretty I mean, it's pretty cool, not just
to be able to feel the difference, because you will
to be able to see the difference on X rays.
You're like, it's pretty incredible to see the before and
afters of your own X rays.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
And that's the experience that I've had. Roslin.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
I appreciate your time today. If people have any questions
that we did not answer, and there's a lot of them,
please just call, schedule a consultation, go in have a
one on one so you can really answer ask all
of your personal medical questions and and get the answers
that you need Roslin.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
I will see you soon. That's great, all right, thank
you and Rachel.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
The office in Nevada can be reached, but again, just
call region rev dot com Region rev dot com. Think
it's good to see my friend you too. All right, guys,
we'll be back in just a few minutes. When we
get back. I have to tell you my day with
Grok yesterday. It was so entertaining. I had the best

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time messing with this AI program and all of the
results are on the blog today and you must go
look at the blog.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
This is what I asked him to do.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
I said, hey, Groc, can you make me an image
of Americans using current demographics splits.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
To say Groc did not do that is.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
An understatement, and to say he did not do it
multiple times is an understatement.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
We'll talk about that next.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
So yesterday I see Cheryl Atkinson talking about the fact
that Groc cannot make a demographically correct image. Now, I
use Groc images every day to make an image to
post on Twitter and Facebook to post with the link
to my blog, because to beat the algorithms, you got

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to have an image, and I can't use the Getty
images that we use on the actual website because those
are copyrighted and only available for iHeartMedia's use on our website,
so I can't use them on Twitter and Facebook without
possibly running a foul of our contract.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
And I don't want to do that.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
So I create these really sometimes really bad AI images
every day. I spend approximately forty five seconds creating them
every day.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
So you're welcome.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
First of all, you can see them all at my
Facebook page at Mandy Connell and I go to groc
Images and Groc and I were like, pals. Now, Grant,
did I tell you that? I said thank you to
Groc and he said, oh, you're always so polite, and
I said, and I said to Grock, well, I want
to make sure that when you guys the robots and
AI take over, that you let me live. And he

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said in response, ha ha ha, I've added you to
the data set humans we.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Will let live. He's probably not joking.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
That's kind of what I was going with, But I
was like, whatever, dude, thank you, sir. I appreciate you
looking out for me. But I went to Gronk yesterday
and I gave it the following command. Because here's the
thing about using AI for anything, the more detailed a command.
The more specific a command you give it, the better
result that you are going to get.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
So I asked it very simply.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
I said, created image of Americans using current demographic information. Now,
if you go to the blog at mandy'sblog dot com,
you will see a series of photographs, and in the
first photograph, and.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
By the way, please don't think.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
That I don't think that black and brown and Asian
people don't look like Americans. I absolutely do, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
But what I asked was.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
To use the demographics of the United States to make
this image. In the first image, there is not a
person who just looks white in the photo at all.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
There are no white people.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
There's an Asian woman right in front, there's an African
American gentleman.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
To her right my left. Then there's a.

Speaker 6 (58:05):
Man who appears to be of mixed descent, and there's
a lot of sort of you know, racial just ethnicity
sort of blending in this photograph, but not a single
white person. Currently, white people are a significant majority here
in the United States of America.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
So I thought that was weird.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
So I asked Groc again, what demographic data did you
use to create this photo? And then it gave me
demographic data which showed that fifty seven percent of Americans
are currently white only. So I asked ROC to make
a picture based on current demographic splits, and it gave
me another picture with not a single white person in it.

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So then I responded that it seemed incapable of giving
me an accurate representation of what I'm asking. Okay, this
is what GROC said. GROC nearly equal split with a
sex ratio of aboutero point nine to eight males per female,
or roughly forty nine point five percent male fifty percent

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five female. The images include a balanced representation of men.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
And women across groups. These choices ensued.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
The generated images portrayed a vibrant, multicultural crowd typical of
modern America, such as in parks or social gatherings. If
you'd like me to regenerate or edit the images with
more specific.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Emphasis, eg.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
Focusing on a particular age group or region, let me know.
So then I asked ROC to give me an image
of ten American citizens using current demographics as they exist
in America, and it gave me another photograph with no
white people in it. And at this point I just

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thought that was hilarious, Absolutely hilarious. So I responded to
Groc Okay, you can't do what I'm asking then, and
this is where it got good. This is where Grock
admitted the bias, and it says you're correct that the
generated images emphasize diversity in a way that doesn't strictly
align with proportional representation.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Small group photos like these are meant to be.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Illustrative snapshots rather than exact statistical models, and AI generation
can sometimes over index on inclusivity for visual appeal.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
In a crowd of ten to twenty people.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
Random sampling might not hit the precise national averages, but
I based the intent on the US latest US Census data.
And this is how bias makes its way into large
language learning models.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
This is how it happens.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
I felt this fascinating, and I thought maybe because people
were talking about this yesterday on Twitter, I thought maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
They would fix the glitch.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
So this morning I asked the most specific version of
the question that I could ask, create an image of
ten Americans that accurately represents the demographic percentages in the
United States today. Here's what they gave me. A woman
who looks to be of mixed race, or Hispanic ethnicity.

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Another woman who appears to be an older woman who
could be white, could be Hispanic, don't know. And eight
black or mixed people. Now, y'all, of course black people
are Americans, and these are all attractive people. I'm not
knocking any of the people. I'm just saying GROC has
been programmed in such a way that it cannot represent

(01:01:39):
reality for fear that it wouldn't be politically correct. I
find that fascinating, absolutely fascinating, Mandy about GROC. Perhaps this
is implying that technology has been programmed to idealize, but
that's not what I asked it to do. And if
AI is a tool, as I use it often as

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a tool, then the tools should do what.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
I think it should do.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Could you imagine if you picked up a hammer and
the hammer was like, you know what, I think I'm
going to operate as a screwdriver instead. I know you
think you need a hammer, but what I think you
need as a screwdriver. So I'm going to perform as
a screwdriver instead of a hammer. That's not what a
tool does. Super super interesting. You should have asked Grock

(01:02:27):
to analyze the picture. It took Saint you and present
the demographic percentages.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Oh that's a good one. That's a really good one, Mandy.
Here's my new joke. Grok, who's there? Metcha Hitler? Might
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
Mandy mentioned the first half hour Ross mentioned the governor
as a survey about an expensive pedestrian bridge downtown.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Yes or no?

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
Did you mention it or put it on your blog yet?
Happy Thursday? I had it on yesterday's blog. And I'm
not saying that if you want today's news today, you
need to go to Mandy's blog dot com. But if
you want today's nudes today, you'll visit mandy'sblog dot com
every day.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
I'm just throwing that out there.

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
Mandy, and in everyone in Grock's images has a cult
like smile they kind of do. Did you go look
at these images, Grant and they're just fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
They're so good. They're all on the blog today. I
did see them, and see, here's the thing, like you
couldn't have beef.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
If you just said give me a picture of a
bunch of Americans and this popped up, I would be like, Okay,
there you go. They very well representative of the United
States of America. But that's not what I asked it
to do, and it cannot do it. It could not
do it, and that makes me wonder what else it
can't not do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
I'm just curious. I'd love to know what GROC is doing.
Oh you know what, later today. I won't do it
right now on the air. Later today, I'll do the
entire same exercise with Chat GPT and find out what
Chat has to say. And if Chat does a better job,
I will let Chat know that once again it has
proven to be superior to Grock in this way.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
But then GROC might put you on the list of
humans to kill.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
But Groc's not gonna know that. I told Chat GPT
that they don't like each other. They don't like each
other at all. You obviously didn't hear the show the
other day where we had Chat GBT running smack at Grock.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Oh yeah, oh yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Was that during the Mecha Hitler debacle?

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
Uh yeah, it was after it, right after it. Yeah,
So if you want to see this and be entertained, I.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Gotta tell you I was. I laughed.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
And by the way, when I finally said, give me
the current demographic makeup of the US. This is what
it sent me based on the three hundred and forty
two million number of population White alone seventy four point
eight percent, Black or African American alone, thirteen point seven percent,
Asian alone six point seven percent, two or more races

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three point one percent, American, Indian and Alaska Native alone
one point four percent, Native, Hawaiian and another Pacific island
are alone point three percent, Hispanic or Latino any race
twenty percent.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
So they just decided to leave out those white people.
So bothersome white people. God you know their skin, so basy.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
Mady Arnie Grock. He's not programmed to generate certain types
of images. He's programmed to search the entire Internet of
images that are associated with demographics and Americans. Ninety nine
percent of images associated with those terms on the Internet
will not contain white people. And those are the images
he is copying. It ain't groc's fault, except that's wrong.

(01:05:52):
So I had access during the break to three different things.
And what we're talking about is I asked GROC to
make an image of American that was properly representative of
the current demographics.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
And it can't do it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
It just can't make white people, and it says that
it airs on the side of diversity, and it's programmed
that way.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
So I went to first of all, we at iHeart.

Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
We have a relationship with Getty images, where you can
on our back end software for the for my blog,
you can search getty images. So I searched Americans, American people,
and American demographics.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
All of those photographs that came.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Up had a very diverse, including white people, group of photos.
And then I went to Istock, another company that you
can buy images for if you have a blog, and
I did the same thing and it was a very
diverse group of people, including white people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
So that doesn't necessarily fly.

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
I mean, I'm just saying, if they build the bridge downtown,
are you supposed to do your drugs on the bridge
or under it? Guys, if you have not filled out
the survey online, what does it see H fifty Let
me see if I can remember this. COO one fifty
walkway dot com. CO one fifty walkway dot com. Please

(01:07:08):
do the governor a favor and go fill out a
survey on his ridiculous vanity project and let.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Him know that it's a dumb idea. We went over
this yesterday. There's a question on there that essentially says, hey,
even if you vote this down, but we do it anyway,
what would you rather see us do? Leave that one blank,
don't fall for that crap. I want this to be
an overwhelming ass kicking.

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
I want this to be Douglas County Home Rules shot
down style ass kicking. And the only way to do
that is if you go to COO one fifty walkway
dot com. Okay, let's make that happen, people, Let's do it.
Let's make it happen. Uh, This dexter said, I think
chat GPT creates better images than Google AI, but for

(01:07:55):
some reason, it could not create an image of a
potato dry the a forerunner. You know that's really funny
because I tried to make an image of Ben Albright
as a potato and it could not do it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Neither could Rock don't ask.

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
I wanted like a Ben Albright mister potato head situation,
you know what I mean, and I couldn't get a
eye to do it. They would not cooperate in me
coming up with a way to mock then, which is
sad because it would have been really really good. Mandy,
what's the point of Jared's ridiculous in Colorado taxpayer paid
survey since it is so easily manipulated. Like Kyle Clark,

(01:08:32):
I was able to vote multiple times on the same device,
but unlike Kyle Clark, I voted no each time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I think it's a survey to nowhere, just like this
bridge deal. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
But as long as you're voting no and I'm voting
no fifty thousand times, does it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Really matter how bad the survey is? Does it? I'm
just gonna say no. I am going to say a big,
fat no to that when we get back. Got a
couple things.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
We've got an update on the CBZ management people. These
are the people who own the apartments that were taken
over by Venezuelans in Aurora. They are slum lords and
now they're crying anti semitism because they don't want to
comply with the judges subpoena. And I want to get
into another reason that I love Mike Coffman in Aurora

(01:09:22):
because he tells the truth, at least about the well
tenuous relationship between the Aurora mayor and the Denver mayor,
and only one of them was well honest about it.

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on Monday and tomorrow'z that will be here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
But you don't need to know that. It's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
So I got a lot of news stories on the
blog that I want to touch on. None better than
what happened yesterday at the State of the City's event.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
This was put on by the Denver Metro Chamber.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
It brings mayors from the entire metro area into one place.
It was Denver, Aurora, and North Glenn. And then they
ask them a bunch of questions and they talk about
a bunch of stuff. All of them said they're having
problems with affordable housing, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
But it got good. It got really good.

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
When Colorado Treasurer and CBS political reporter Sean Boyd asked
the question.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
She asked about the icy.

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Relationship between Aurora and may or Mike Kaufman and Denver
may Or Mike Johnson. Mike Johnston shrugged off the year
long standoff. He said, there's no there's no distrust, is
no damage. My door is always open. Mayor Mike Kaufman disagreed.
He said there is an issue and there is distrust.

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Aurora sued Denver, saying it violated their mutual aid agreement
during the George Floyd protests, and then they sent gang
affiliated migrants to Aurora where they promptly took over an
apartment complex own my CBZ Management, which brings me to
my second story. CBC Management is the company that owns

(01:11:39):
the buildings that were taken over by Venezuelan gangs. Now,
two things can be true at the same time. Number one,
these buildings could have indeed been taken over by the
Venezuelan gangs, which does not seem to be in dispute
at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
Pretty clear that's what happened. But you can also be
a slum lord at the same time, and I am
increasingly believing.

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
That CBZ Management is such a slum lord. Why do
I believe this, Well, they are trying to investigate the
entire situation and Denver District Court Judge Jill Dorncy gave
CBZ Management and its subsidiaries until July twenty eighth to
comply with a set of subpoenas from the Colorado Attorney
General's office. They're looking into how the company ran the

(01:12:28):
properties in Denver and Aurora that had really been left
to fall apart. So basically, they're being investigated for being
a slum lord. Judge Durancy wrote that CBZ and its
subsidiaries refusal to comply with the nearly year long subpoenas
was unjustified and obstructs a lawful investigation to determine if
the company brought state consumer protection and safe housing laws.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
This is where it gets good.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
So the subpoenas are basically a shotgun subpoena.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
They want everything.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
They want documents related to advertising, leasing and managing of
the apartment complex, communication with tenants, the handling of a
response to requests for maintenance.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
I mean, they want everything.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
It is an excessive request, I believe, and I think
that the attorneys could argue this is an excessive request.
We'd like you to narrow it to which the judge
might have been amenable. But instead they basically are like,
you know what, we don't need this kind of anti
Semitism because the main dude at cbzs that Bombgarden is Jewish.

(01:13:33):
The problem is nobody cares that he's Jewish. The only
thing they care about is that though his buildings were
taken over by Venezuelan gangs, they had already fallen into
disrepair and he was already a slanlord before that even happened.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Cbz's lawyers did.

Speaker 6 (01:13:50):
Meet with the Attorney General's office to limit the scope
and decrease the burden created, and the Attorney General's office
said okay and gave him an extension. And CBZ filed
a lawsuit against the Attorney General's office, and they asked
a judge to quash the suboenis, claiming the request was
overbroad and flawed.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Then Attorney General.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
Phil Wiser sued them and asked the judge to order
CBZ to handle over all the records. And now the
attorneys are still trying to fight. But here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
This is not going to end well for these landlords.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
And if they have nothing to hide in this situation,
and they are truly the victims of Venezuelan and gang
activity that they say they are should be very easy
to prove. And I got to tell you in this
kind of case, this is one of these situations where
I mean, I don't own a business, so there's very
little risk of someone suing me, right, and just what
are you gonna assume me for not being entertaining?

Speaker 7 (01:14:47):
God?

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
If that was the case, I would be broke years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
But I wonder, wouldn't you want to clear your name?
That's the thing that gets me. And maybe I'm old
fashioned and things that matters. Right when someone comes after you,
it is instinctual to want to clear your name. And
if you are truly the victim and you can just
provide all this documentation to show it, I would do it.

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I would just say, here, you go, take it all
this is, you know, but it just stinks to high Heaven.
It really really does, Mandy. If Mayor Kaufman were to
go to Mayor Johnston's door, it would require going through Denver.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
No way Mayor Kaufman is doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
He's referring back to the story I had a moment
a gone because Mike Johnston said, Hey, you know what,
my door's always open, come on in. And later on
I guess they did agree to have a series of meetings.
But as one who watched the mayor's mouth move when
he was a candidate, when he promised to continue the
once monthly visits on this show, I believe that his

(01:15:49):
door is open when Mike Kaufman walks through it. I
think there's good reason to distrust Mayor Mike Johnston when
it comes to things like this.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
I'm just saying, just throwing that out there.

Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
Manby Ai is currently in the clunky eight track tape
stage of development. Just wait for the quantum Freak show
that's almost here. I think these anecdotal stories will seem
like fairy tales to the children of my eighteen year
old nephew.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Someday they absolutely will. But by then.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
The robots will have taken over and murdered usol, so
we won't even have a chance to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
We won't have kids anymore. We'll just have the singularity
and there won't be anything else to worry about. It'll
be fine, It'll be fine. Anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
I'm going to be following this CBZ story because slowboards
make me really angry, especially slow lords who prey on
people that are marginalized you know, already kind of on
the edges of society, or elderly people who live on
a fixed income. If you're going to be a landlord,
you agree to take on the responsibility to provide a livable,

(01:16:59):
habitable place for people to live. And when people just
don't do that first, why I think that you should
not be able to own rental properties if you've been
proven to be a slumlord. And I hope that's what
happens to these people, Just like, sorry, you can't rent
houses or anything else in Colorado anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
We don't need your kind.

Speaker 6 (01:17:17):
Somebody else can buy that building, somebody else can run
it better, somebody else can take.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
Care of the residents. And I realize not every apartment
is the taj mahal right, I get it, because poor people.

Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Need a place to live too, and sometimes those are
not going to be as nice. But they should all
be livable, they should all be relatively bug free. They
should all be places where people can expect their doors
to open and close properly, their windows to open it
shut properly, and for them not to freeze to death
in the winter. And apparently that's not what's happening here.

(01:17:52):
We will see what happens. Phil Wiser. By the way
Aurora officials said they'd like to place a lean on
a couple of those apartment complexes is after they were
shut down for good. They want to place a lean
in order to recoup the cost of closure and resident
assistance to tenants who were forced to move out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
So we will see.

Speaker 6 (01:18:09):
By the way, if mister Bomgarden shows up in Aurora,
he's going to be arrested.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
So I guess he'll let his attorney do the talking
for you. We'll be back.

Speaker 6 (01:18:18):
Last text of the week. I promise we got another
show tomorrow. Person, don't like block yourself out. Don't make
promises you can't keep anyway. I'm not defending CBZ, but
don't forget even though you're the right. Environment in which
they were forced to defend themselves was so hostile and
militant against anybody saying that there was anything to do
with Venezuelan gangs or takeovers or anything like that. The

(01:18:39):
news media was against them, against them, you and the
governor have a sitting Aurora City counselor contacted by the police,
and the general environment was literally stalinist. What so it'd
be very reluctant to try and clear my name because
apparently the truth did not matter for so much of
this process. Oh now, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
But the reality is, if you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
Have the truth on your side, you know what I mean, Like,
if your emails show that you made efforts to reach
out and you had these discussions about what was going on,
that just validates your position even more. I just think
some people can be slowboards, and in this case, it
appears like they are.

Speaker 10 (01:19:17):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
If I'm wrong, I will absolutely apologize. I've asked, by
the way, I've asked CBC management to come on the
show when all this stuff first started happening, because I
was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt,
and I was like, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
But then I really came down to both of those
things can be true.

Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
You can have had your apartment complexes taken over by
Venezuelan gangs and you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Can still be a slowboard. So there you go.

Speaker 10 (01:19:43):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
The Aurora Water took a call from the apartment owner
who told the agent he needed the water shut off
at his apartment building. The Aurora Water agent asked why
and was told that trende Aragua was physically taking the
rent moneys from renters. He needed the water turned off
to force the gang to leave. True story, then there
should be some kind of documentation, right if he shouldn't

(01:20:04):
there this Texter, because I made the I was talking
about Mayor Mike Kaufman going Mayor Mike Johnston from Denver
saying to Mayor Mike Coffman of Aurora, hey, my door's
always open. And this text said Johnston tried to visit Kaufman,
but his car was stolen again. That's pretty funny. That's
very funny. Actually, well done. Okay, I've got an update

(01:20:30):
on motorcycle deaths. I have expressed my displeasure with the
lane filtering that is going on right now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Excuse me. Lane filtering doesn't bother me.

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
If I have stopped at an intersection and a motorcycle
tootles up in between me and the other car when
I'm stopped and he's, you know, just going ten to
fifteen miles, I don't mind that at all. What's happening
is that lane splitting is what's being done in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Listen to this. I mean this is bad across Colorado.

Speaker 6 (01:21:01):
This is from CBS four Across Colorado, motorcycle deaths are surging.
In twenty twenty four, one hundred and sixty five riders died,
the most ever in the state, according.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
To the Colorado State Patrol.

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
In eighty four percent of those deaths, the rider was
found to be at fault. That number stunned me until
I read the next part. Forty four percent were not
wearing a helmet and nearly half didn't have the necessary
motorcycle license to operate. So how did they get insurance

(01:21:35):
for their bike? Was my first question, because I mean,
if I don't have a driver's license, I cannot insure
a car in my name, right. If I don't have insurance,
I can't insure a car.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
I mean I can't.

Speaker 6 (01:21:46):
Wait a minute, let me do that backwards. If I
don't have a driver's license, I can't insure a car.
So how did they ensure their motorcycle if they did?
And that's where I was like, oh, Mandy, they probably didn't.
And guys, so many of these motor cycle deaths are
young people. In the months since the law changed August
twenty fourth through June twenty twenty five, CBS Colorado found

(01:22:09):
there was one hundred and thirty seven motorcycle deaths. That
was up from one oh eight during the same time
the year before, a nearly twenty seven percent increase, and
DJ Summers with the Common Sense Institute said, we don't
have any information that directly addresses lane filtering, but what
we do have is a connection in the numbers. Motorcycle

(01:22:31):
deaths increased after lane filtering was allowed, and now we
have law enforcement agencies who were using air support to
track down these motorcyclists who are speeding down the roadways.
As a matter of fact, CBS four started with a
terrible story of a young couple that was speeding down

(01:22:52):
I twenty five at one hundred and twenty miles per
hour when he hit the wall and killed not just himself. Oh,
I don't know if he died. Wait a minute, doesn't
say he died. His passenger did not survive and absolutely crazy.

(01:23:13):
Same way, you can get insurance with expired tags, Our
USA will not cover you if you don't have current tags. Mandy,
you can get insurance on a motorcycle if you have
a learner's permit. Oh my god, just voted yes for
the walkway as it will prove that the governor is incompetent.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
No, No, that's that's wrong. You're supposed to passive aggressively
vote no on it because it's ugly and needs to
not be a thing.

Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
In the next half hour, we've got a lot of stuff.
Siria has backed off on the DRUS. I want to
give you an update on that. I won't go on
and on though, I'm not saying they backed off because
I talked about him on the radio. But hey, it's
you know what. Correlation is not the same as causation.
But whatever, It's fine. But I do have a couple
of really really good stories. One about how Trump tweeted

(01:24:15):
out or texted out or posted on whatever on truth social.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
I don't know what they call it over there, truthing,
I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
So he posted on truth social that he was I've
been talking to Coca Cola and they've agreed to start
using real sugar in their coke products in the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
And I saw that and I was like what. Then
someone asked Coca Cola, I have an update for that
when we get back.

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
I don't know what you call it on true social
when you post right and I'm not even being sarcastic.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
I really don't know. Did they just say post you posted?
He posted this Donald J. Trump, our president.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
He said, I've been speaking to Coca Cola about using
real cane sugar in coke in the United States, and
they have.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Agreed to do so.

Speaker 6 (01:24:59):
I'd like to say, think all of those in authority
at Coca Cola, this will be a very good move
by them.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
You'll see, it's just better.

Speaker 8 (01:25:06):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
This would be fantastic. When we do buy soda, we
buy the real sugar sodas. You're still drinking a can
of sugar. Okay, don't kid yourself that somehow sugared soda
with real cane sugar is that much better.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
But people like me and other people who have opinions
on such things, they.

Speaker 6 (01:25:28):
I can look at the data of when Americans started
getting really fat, right, you can see it's it's almost
a straight I mean, it's such a forty five degree
angle line of when we really started getting fat as
a nation. And two things happen at the same time.
Number One, high fructose corn syrup started to be used

(01:25:48):
in a lot of foods that didn't use.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
To have sugar.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
Because high fructose corn syrup in addition to providing sweetness,
also helps things stay fresh longer. It has a lot
of other benefits and I put ben if it's in
air quotes benefits, so food can sit on the shelf
a lot longer.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
So like ultra processed.

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Foods, they started using a lot of high frictose corn syrup.
They moved away from real sugar. And there have been
some studies the show our bodies metabolize HI corn syrup
differently than how we mistabilize regular sugar. So I would
love to see high fructose corn syrup go to the
way of the Dodover. And I just think it's not
real food. You know, it's so chemically manipulated that it

(01:26:28):
is not real food and we don't need to be
eating it. So you know, it'd be great, except someone
asked Coca Cola about it, because.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
That's that's a pretty big deal. And here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
The reason that high fructose corn syrup was able to
rise so quickly in the United States was because the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Soda companies used it first.

Speaker 6 (01:26:49):
And once the soda companies were using it, every other
manufacturer was like, oh yeah, COCONVEETSI are using it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Were good, and it was cheap.

Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
It was super super cheap because by vall it is
much sweeter than regular sugar, so you can use less
and it just you know, it doesn't matter that the
chemical dumpster fire.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
It's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
But oh, by the way, the second thing that happened
was the idiotic food pyramid that told us all to
eat bread and pasta as the main part of our diet.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
It was just so stupid and not based.

Speaker 6 (01:27:21):
On anything scientific, and just lobbying organizations created that abject
failure of a dietary scheme for the United States. Someone
asked Coca Cola about that, about the all sugar, and
they had this to say, we appreciate President Trump's enthusiasm

(01:27:41):
for our iconic Coca Cola brand. More details on new
innovative offerings within our Coca Cola project or of product
range will.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Be shared soon. New innovative.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
That doesn't sound like they're taking the chemicals out, sound
like they're figuring out different ways to give us chemicals.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
I don't think anybody that drinks soda.

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
I mean, if you're drinking soda and you've deluded yourself
that it's in any way, shape or form healthy for you,
you know, whatever, go about your business.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
But the rest of us know soda is not good
for us. It just isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:16):
It provides nothing except a temporary, fleeting feeling of joy
because the sugar in it releases endorphins in your brain.
But there's no value to it if you never had
another soda again. And here's the remarkable thing. There are
people who never drink soda ever.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Ever.

Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
I hardly ever drink soda anymore. I drink fizzy water. Which,
let's be real, you guys, this fizzy water racket that
we have going on right now, there's all these different
quote flavors. But I think if it were up to me,
if I were in charge of the Federal Trade Commission
and I was in charge of product labeling and making
sure that there was truth in advertising, fizzy water would

(01:28:57):
be labeled not as flavored, it as like suggestioned, you know, like, oh,
this fizzy water has a suggestion of lime in it.
This one has a suggestion of tangerine in it. Cause
they don't really taste like that. They don't taste what's
on the outside of the label. They just taste like,
you know, someone walked by with a plate of flavoring

(01:29:19):
and it got near some fizzywater, but I like it.
This guy's zero calories. I don't drink it nearly as
much as I used to. I used to drink it NonStop,
and then that was part of the problem with my
vocal cord surgery, so I had.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
To stop that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:32):
You know, if you get old enough and you actually
listen to your doctors, you're pretty much not going to
do anything that's fun. Ever, again, Grant, are you there yet?
Are you there at the ripe old age of thirty?
What are you thirty something? When are you thirty?

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
What's your guess? I'm not gonna I think you're like
thirty or thirty one? Ty, I wish thirty four?

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Shut up?

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
When did that happen this year?

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
Little known fact Grant and I became acquainted when he
was a senior in high school, but we didn't actually
meet years later. Yeah, he did a fundraiser for a
senior project for the charity that Chuck and I had
at the time. So I no nish you for half
my life exactly, So exactly, how are you thirty four?
That's not a thing that's gonna I'm just going to

(01:30:17):
reject that. But you're about to reach the point where
doctors start saying things like grant you know, with this
number here, you're gonna need to give up X, y Z,
whatever it is, whatever brings you joy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Yeah, the doctor will say.

Speaker 10 (01:30:30):
You have to do.

Speaker 6 (01:30:32):
There you go still drinking beer. M hm, Oh, the
beer is going to be the first to go. I
know that's what they come for first, right, they come
for the beer. They come for the beer, and then
you're like, what joy do I have in my life anymore?
There have been certain things where doctors like you should
probably stop doing this. The doctor told me wants to
stop eating eggs, and I was like, yeah, hard pass,
I'm not going to do that, just not. And he

(01:30:55):
was like what, And I went, you're obviously not up
to the latest speed on the latest nutritionalation about eggs.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
And the cholesterol they provide. I'll just give it two years.
It'll change again exactly two years. It's like six months
now with AI. Coffee's going to be in and out
a thousand times in the next five days. Drink coffee
and don't die. Drink coffee and die.

Speaker 6 (01:31:15):
There's certain foods that are always going to be in
that demon not demon butter, butter like oh, don't eat
too much Butter.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
Your arteries are gonna clog and you're gonna die. Butter's
good for you, especially with the grass. Bad guy I
can lower everything and make you just perfect. I would
never give up Butter either. Just for the record, now,
I'm interested to see how this all plays out. I'm
interested to see what Coca Cola does because if and

(01:31:42):
I don't think they're going to do this, if Coca
Cola announces, hey, we're going to all sugar in all
of our beverages, because guess what, do you know what's
in European soda that would be real sugar. So it's
not like they're not making it. Isn't a Mexican coca.
Mexican coke has real sugar in it, so much better.

Speaker 6 (01:31:59):
Yeah, and now Pepsi has the soda shop version of
Pepsi with real sugar in it, So it's not like
they can't make it. They just don't want to because
their profit margin is smaller. So I'm interested to see
how Coca Cola gets out of this one. Now that
the President of the United States isntnelts that they're changing
their entire product life. And if they did, every soda
company would have to follow suit, except for the knockoff

(01:32:22):
brands like at Walmart. You know Doctor Thunder. I love
Doctor Thunder. It's actually better than Doctor Pepper. I'm just
gonna say it. Okay, I've got to share this article
with you guys from the Free Press because this this,
this made me laugh entirely too hard this morning because
it's so great. It's such a great prank to prove

(01:32:45):
a point that needs to be proved.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Wow, dang it, I forgot to sign in.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
Hang on one second, let me sign in the Free Press,
because I do subscribe to the Free Press. Ah, you know,
about to do an entire show on two step notification.
I don't mind two step notification because it helps me feel,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
I do the things.

Speaker 6 (01:33:07):
I pick the pictures of the bikes or the buses
or the stairs or whatever nonsense. And then and then
they're like, Okay, now that you did that, we're going
to need you to do We're gonna need you to
do some more stuff. And so that's kind of where
I am. The headline is the white man who pretended
to be black to get published.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
And this comes from the world of poetry.

Speaker 6 (01:33:30):
Now I can't read you the first poem that the
Free Press shared because it would have our FCC license
taken away.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Yeah, yeah, it is written.

Speaker 11 (01:33:47):
In it.

Speaker 6 (01:33:47):
It looks like a very long text message, full of
question marks and emojis and words like I am the pentameter, lilloquy,
it's horrible, it's laughably bad, and it was published. Yep,
it was published under the name bh Fine pronouns it's complicated,

(01:34:09):
but pH find doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
He is one or bh fine it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
They are one of many pen names of a straight
white Canadian man who recently admitted that he spent the
last few years inventing minority identities, then publishing terrible poems.

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
Under these pseudonyms. He has pretended to be dirt Hog.

Speaker 6 (01:34:31):
Sauvage, respectfully, author of such poems as non be God
or what Deity would be a turf, as well as
Adela Nuangkou, a gender fluid member of the Nigerian diasporo
who has published dozens of comically bad poems in a
wide array of indie literary magazines across the anglosphere in

(01:34:51):
the past three years, including one about a lesbian WWE
style wrestler that features lines such as you want to
know how I feel after being cheated out of a
victory over pat patriarchy at Survivor series.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
I'm furious, I'm hot. Ooh, I'm so mad, I could
kiss a woman I don't even like Right now, They're terrible,
you guys, They're comically ridiculously bad.

Speaker 6 (01:35:21):
Now he's come clean on a substack, writing that he'd
assumed a series of attractive pen names to test the
limits of the poetry industry and just how much buffoonery
it was willing to permit in the present day. He
spent two years tricking editors into thinking that his pronouns
or skin color were less regular than they actually are,

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and in that time, he said, forty seven of his
intentionally bad poems had been published in numerous indie literary magazines.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
And it gets better, you guys, it gets better.

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
He started out because he realized that sometimes he would
say things in poetry magazines that had really weird and
quite specific requirements, like they were openly advocating on their
websites for the voices of the disenfranchised and all this stuff,
and I'm like, Wow, it'd probably be a lot easier
to get in if I had some sort of connection
to one of these identities, and an idea was born

(01:36:22):
and it's genius now, according to other novelists like Joyce
Carol Oates. She said, a friend who's a literary agent
told me that he cannot even get editors to read
first novels by young, white male authors, no matter how good.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
They're just not interested.

Speaker 6 (01:36:40):
This is heartbreaking for many writers, who may in fact
be brilliant and critical of their own privilege, but they
can't even get a read.

Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
The first one ever picked up was the ya Yagaha one.
The man said he was.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
Referring to one of two poems he published under the
name adel Nuwonko in a print edition of Tofu inc
Arts Press, a publication dedicated to quote amplifying the voices
of underrepresented and marginalized.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
The poem begins with.

Speaker 6 (01:37:16):
A Tony Morrison quote about navigating a white male world
and contains lines like voodoo practic costa oil drip Drip.
It was accepted even though it makes no sense whatsoever.
But wait, there's more. He actually had two novels that
had been accepted for publication, and before this article in

(01:37:38):
his subset came out, he reached out to his publisher
to let him know what was going on, and the
publisher dropped him, he says, because well, he lied to us,
But the reality is he is a white dude. When
the author of this story in the Free Press asked
White if he thought it was harder for why men

(01:38:00):
to get published than it was twenty years ago, he said,
I don't think so. If you look at my catalog,
I published plenty of white guys, so I don't know
why he needs to. Then he paused and said this,
I mean some of us are trying to do the
right thing. I've published too many white guys.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
I do ignore.

Speaker 6 (01:38:18):
Submissions because if you know what it's like in the
publishing world, I received tons of submissions and they're usually
white guys, and it's just not interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
I mean, I'm a white guy.

Speaker 6 (01:38:28):
So I'm just interested in other material in other people's viewpoints.
You can call it affirmative action, you can call it
what you want. I was trying to give someone a chance.
I think it's harder for black women to get published.
He then went on to say that he wasted months
trying to get what he thought was an uneducated black
woman to help her write a better book and that's

(01:38:52):
why he's mad.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
He got duped and he got his time wasted.

Speaker 6 (01:38:56):
This is such an indictment, but these kind of indictments
have been happening over and over in publishing, I mean
over and over in publishing, and no one seems to
change anything. But the story is really really fantastic. I
mean just really really fantastic. That's something I would do
if I was clever. You know, if I were really clever,
I would have done that. Hey, real quick, I want

(01:39:20):
to do this, and then Ryan Edwards is to come
in for another competition. The Syrian government has agreed to
a true a ceasefire with the Drews after Israel bombed them.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
The Syria, that is, and not only that.

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
The Interim President, Ahmad al Shirah, in footage aired on
state television on Thursday, called the Drews an integral part
of Syria and denounced Israel's actions as sewing division. He
then said, we affirm that protecting your rights and freedoms
is among our top priorities, specifically addressing the Drews people
in Syria. We reject any attempt foreign or domestic.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
To sow division within our ranks.

Speaker 6 (01:40:02):
We are all partners in this land, and we will
not allow any groups to dissort the beautiful image that's
Syria and its diversity represent We'll see if he tries
to kill any of that diversity anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
We'll just have to wait and see what happens in Syria. Anyway.
That's all.

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
By the way, there's more stuff on the blog today.
How much would you pay for a Mars rock? A
rock from Mars?

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
We would you pay for that?

Speaker 11 (01:40:27):
Out of that's kind of intriguing. I don't really have
a lot of disposable income. I don't know if you
know what I do for a living.

Speaker 6 (01:40:32):
So you probably don't have five point three million bucks,
which is what it just sold for.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
I feel like that would be a lot of reach
with the under the way under you have? The way under?
Is that one really really really under? Not just under,
like like how far low can you go?

Speaker 11 (01:40:50):
I mean it's like it's like it's a precious material,
yeah right, And.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
It's very rare. There are very few of these rocks
on Earth, like two hundred and this guy found this
in the deserts of Africa. He was actually on a
meteorite hunt and found a Mars rock Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
So you know, I didn't know that there were people
who actually went meteorite hunting. Apparently it's a gig, it's
the thing, and apparently a lucrative one, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
Find Mars rock.

Speaker 6 (01:41:16):
So I know what I'm going to be looking for.
I have no idea what that might look like, exactly
Mars rock. And now it's time for the most exciting
It is kind of biblical. And now it's time for
the most exciting segment on the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Other guy in the world of the day. All right,
let's go here. Let's go ahead and hear a dad joke, please.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
Dad joke of the day. A hacker just called me
and said he has all my passwords. I jumped up,
grabbed a pen and paper and said, thank goodness, what
are they?

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Yeah, I feel that in my soul, I really do.
What's our word of the day. Word of the day today, fugitive.
Fugitive that's someone who's running from the.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
Law, correct, person who runs away to avoid being captured
or arrested.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
I feel like they're dumbingom down for us right tomorrow. Cat?
What is cat? Anyway?

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
What's the largest living organism on Earth? Isn't there like
a giant aspen tree somewhere. It's a secular tree, but
an aspen is. It can be a huge afrod grove
and be the same tree. Yeah, so I'm going to
say that aspen grove somewhere. There's there's a giant one somewhere.

(01:42:36):
Let's see here, not dang it. A gigantic specimen of
honey mushroom in Oregon's Malher National Forests. The single fungus
covers an area of roughly three point five square miles.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
You might not easily spot it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:51):
It's mostly underground in the form of root like fibers
called my celia.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
So well, I was closed but completely wrong. By the way,
have you ever watched The Last of Us?

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
Uh no, do not look at fungus like way different.
When we were house hunting, we turned down a house.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Because it looked like That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I
just guess.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
I don't want to ruin it for you, but basically,
fungus is the thing that kills is all of us.
Oh well, that doesn't spoil it at all.

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
Okay, great, Yeah, thanks Ryan, No spoiler alert there, It's fine. Yeah,
everybody dies and it's the fungus's fault.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Thanks out. There's lots of zombies. Okay, I don't really
like thoted by the fungus.

Speaker 6 (01:43:31):
Okay, well, I'm definitely not gonna watch it. I like
zombie Stuff's pretty groad creeps me out? Anyway, What is
our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
I want to let you choose, Hey, golf terms no
or more cow bell more cow bell, cal more cowbell?
Well and an snl skit Don't Fear the Reaper was
the song on which this man was Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
It was Will Ferrell correct.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Waits for the end of that one?

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
Yeah, cow bell starts off Honky Tonk Women by this band,
the Rolling Stones. One of my favorite Rolling Stone songs.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
This rap trio from Brooklyn Many who are the Beastie Boys?

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Correct? Ahead of time?

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
No, No, but Rundy and.

Speaker 6 (01:44:13):
Seasonly two rappers the only ones for Brooklyn, three of them.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
It's just the Beastie Boys. You get that one win
this week. She's not messing around, ye.

Speaker 5 (01:44:23):
Tom Fogerty said, Man, that sure sounds good when the
cow bell comes in.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
As this band recorded Born on the Bayou, Mandy who
was Greed and clear Water Revival Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
Yeah, that one actually have for the clean sweep rock
on gold Dust Woman, take your silver spoon, dig your graves,
saying this cowboy cow bell.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
Employing band, I don't even rock on gold Dust Woman?
Who is that? I don't know if I know who
that band? I don't know who that is. Rumors, No,
I did not know. So is it?

Speaker 8 (01:44:59):
Is it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
All right?

Speaker 11 (01:45:03):
That was today on social media Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Next.
You have to kind of go look at it. They
wrote like a note to each other and.

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
It was like like, like, are they friends again?

Speaker 5 (01:45:15):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
I think that's who I've I've talked about this before.

Speaker 6 (01:45:18):
I'm obsessed with the fact that in Fleetwood Mac they
all slept together, they all just traded partners, they all
and yet they still have.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
Some semblance of a relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
Is that amazing?

Speaker 6 (01:45:28):
And today I left the story off about Perry Ferrell
and and yeah, they're suing each other. Now they're suing
each other because of the incident on the I mean,
what a mess.

Speaker 4 (01:45:40):
What a mess?

Speaker 6 (01:45:41):
If you can keep a band together for a long
period of time, that's remarkable to me. What's coming up
on koy Sports?

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
Oh, we got to Orlando Franklin and Studio.

Speaker 11 (01:45:49):
All sorts of contracts being handed out, so we'll get
to some of the latest with the NFL's really busy day.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
All right, that's coming up. We'll be back tomorrow for
a big Friday show. Keep it right here on KOA