07-31-25 FULL SHOW - Celebrate Our 100th Birthday With Us!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do a Thursday edition of the show. I'm your host
for the next three hours. Mandy Coddle join my Zach
Seegers in for Anthony Rodriguez, who is continuing our incredible
coverage of Broncos training camp. Follow us from WHOA, thank you,
Susan or whoever that was, thank you. I always think
that Susan, but it's not anyway, I always have. I

(00:23):
completely lost my train of thought because I freight me out, Zach,
freak me out. No, I'm just kidding. Follow all of
our social media channels at Kowa, Colorado to get all
of the latest video interviews from Broncos training camp, and
obviously you can tune in today at three to hear
the guys break everything down as they're out there all
morning as training camp is going on. Let's jump in

(00:46):
and do the blog, shall we, because I also have
a late edition, got a couple late editions. Oh jeez, sorry,
my necklace just detached from its itself and it is
falling off. Ah. We're in jewelry today because it's a
big day here at KOA. I'll go ahead and do
that while I get this necklace out of'm my hair.
Ow Ah, jeez, o Pete, just put that over there

(01:10):
for now anyway. OWL. Okay, today's our hundredth birthday. Let's
talk about the blog and where to find it. Go
to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com or Randy
Cromwell dot com. Then look for the headline that says
seven point thirty one twenty five blog Celebrate our one
hundredth birthday with us. Click on that and here are
the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
How do you dosson office half of American, all the
ships and clippas and say that's going to press plat.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm the blog Happy one hundreds to KOA one day
and dollars. I need to talk about Sydney Sweeney. The
fact this needs to go fund me is shameful. Another day,
another Democrat lawsuit, but DEM's love to see everyone. Gavin
Newsome wants to help boys. The least surprising verdict in
the history of verdicts, the good and bad of assistance suicide.

(02:00):
If a cheek swab is what it takes, get your
half prized Broncos tickets today. Great advice from people over
sixty The fiction of cheap renewable energy. Trump's ongoing commercial diplomacy.
It's India. This is why you wear your seat belt
the whole flight. Let's talk about adult summer camp, don't
love your personality, high taxes, inspire in exodus, More on

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Trump winning on tariffs, about congressional insider trading, more chat,
GPT tips, Shannon Sharp and ESPN part Ways, what's new
on streaming? Top Dogs of the week, and literally the
sweetest story of the year. Those are the headlines on
the blog at mandy'sblog dot com and very very cool

(02:45):
seeing that's going. You know, I'm gonna take a sidewinder
here for just a second because I just glanced up
after I did the blog and I see headlines now
funeral procession for New York NYPD officer. And of course
this is a terrible story. He was one of the
people that was victimized by the lunatic from Las Vegas

(03:06):
who showed up to try and shoot up the NFL
headquarters because he blamed them for his traumatic brain injury,
even though he never played in the NFL. But whatever,
crazy people are gonna crazy, And don't get me wrong,
I'm glad that Fox News is showing this funeral procession
for NYPD Officer Islam. I'm glad, but this week fifteen
police officers have been killed, actually maybe this month fifteen.

(03:30):
And I mentioned Phil Wagner specifically the other day, Officer
Phil Wagner in Loraine, Ohio one of three officers that
were ambushed and murdered by a man. Do you know
why you didn't see anything about their funeral procession because
the FBI locked everyone out of their funeral, they believe.
And this is like third hand, Okay, so this is
not like I got this from the FBI and I

(03:52):
know what I'm talking about. I got it from family
members who were kept away from the funeral. They put
a two mile perimeter around the funeral and would not
let anyone accept the immediate family and other police officers
go to his funeral. So extended family, of which my
husband's family is huge, massively, they were not allowed to
go to the funeral because the FBI thinks they have

(04:13):
connected it to other ambush attacks on police officers around
the country. So this is where we are. This is
where we are. So I'm glad that Officer Islam is
getting the do that he deserves, but I just want
you to know there's other police officers out there who
are not getting the same kind of you know, attention
because they weren't in New York City. But terrible things

(04:34):
are happening to our police. And you know what, when
you run around for years telling people that police are
the problem and that all the ills in society stem
from police, what do you think is going to happen?
I mean, come on, what do you really think?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I've got an added guest added just at the last minute.
I haven't even had time to add him to the blog.
At twelve thirty, we're going to talk to my pal
Steven More from Unleashing Prosperity in the Heritage Foundation. He
is I called him earlier today because I heard the
President put Jerome Powell on full blast. Just be a

(05:13):
nasty to Jerome Powell. Now here's the thing. I don't
think Jerome Powell's done a good job. I'm just gonna
say it. He refused to acknowledge he has never acknowledged
the Fed's role in the inflation that we're still dealing
with now. And inflation happens because you flood the market

(05:35):
with money and now you have two many dollars chasing
too few goods. And that leads to inflation. This is
not new, you guys. Every period of high inflation has
been preceded by flooding the money, flooding the market with money,
and that's what the FED did under Jerome Powell. And
then he kept telling us, Oh, inflation's transitory, it's transitory. No,

(05:56):
it's not. You jumped a pile of money into the economy.
It's not transitory. You did it. And now, don't get
me wrong, I think President Trump is looking in the
wrong direction when he is talking about unleashing the housing market.
And we're going to talk to Steve about this at
twelve thirty because I called him to talk to him
about it off the air and then I'm like, well,
come on the air and talk about this. So and

(06:20):
I've talked about this before. Mortgage rates are not necessarily
tied to the Fed's number, not directly. They are directly
tied to the ten year treasury. And there's a whole
flew of really good reasons for that, right, I mean,
there really is. And it has to do with the
fact that a mortgage is a long term commodity, it's
not a short term commodity, and therefore you need to

(06:40):
kind of have you something to tie it to you.
That's more of a longer term investment. And the treasury
yields right now are stubbornly high. The last time that
the Fed cut rates, mortgage rates went up, and there's
a connection, a direct connection there.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
One of the things I wanted to ask Steve, and
I'm gonna ask him on the air let him answer it,
is if we start seeing real movement on the deficit,
whether it is new money coming in from tariffs. I mean,
we already know the tariffs have brought in three hundred.
I don't three hundred. Is it billion? I have to
look that up now. I was about to say billion.
It might be million. Nonetheless, they're bringing in a craft

(07:18):
ton of money, and anything we can do to drop
the deficit, that's the key to unleashing the mortgage market.
That's the key, because the less we have to pay
investors to buy our debt, and that's exactly what the
ten year treasury yield is. I mean, that's the interest
that we have to entice people with to get them
to buy our debt, and the less confidence they have

(07:41):
in our economy, the higher that rate is. But if
we really start to make progress on the deficit, and
right now with three percent GDP growth, that's good. I
will take it all day long. And if we see
some kind of movement through a package of recisions and
other stuff, although the recisions were only nine million dollars,
so that's like nothing dropping the bucket, But if we

(08:03):
could actually see some deficit reduction, then then we're talking.
So we're gonna talk to Steve at twelve thirty about
all that stuff. Today is the one well okay, no, wait,
let me do okay, just in the interest of accuracy.
Last December we had the actual birth date of Koa,
but it was around Christmas, so nobody wants to do that,

(08:24):
so we decided to punt and move our hundredth birthday celebration,
and today we're having one of those for the company
and all of us, and I'm looking forward to it.
But I thought it might be fun at some point
today to talk about those of you that are longtime
KOA listeners. I would love to hear something that you
remember about Koa, something that had an impact, someone that

(08:46):
you miss on the air, you know, someone that you
loved listening to for whatever reason. And I just thought
that would be kind of interesting, So we'll do that
a little bit later in the show. And then we
just found out from the governor, who honestly you got
I just heard the end of his interview with Ross
where he said the problem with cutting the budget is

(09:09):
going to be that Republicans are gonna want to not
cut spending. I don't even know how to I don't
even know what to say to that. I really don't.
Barb Kirkmeyer has been on the Joint Budget Committee. Barb
Kirkmeyer has been talking about the out of control spending
that Democrats have been doing, using one time ARPA funds

(09:31):
to create ongoing programs and other idiotic budgetary decisions. She's
been talking about this for years, so I can hardly
wait to hear her reaction when she finds out that
the governor is saying that it's going to be Republicans
that are going to be wanting to spend more money.
Are you kidding me? I mean, ugh, I can't. She's

(09:54):
coming on at one. I'll get her reaction on that.
She was quite perturbed on X this morning, realizing that
the governor had plenty of time to clue in the
media about a one billion dollars shortfall, but didn't have
time to pick up the phone and call any Republicans
about it. Nah, they can read about in the press.
It's fine. Now I'm going to do something that I

(10:15):
said I wasn't going to do because it's so stupid
that I was like, I am not going to engage
on this because it's so dumb. I am not going
to insult the intelligence of my incredibly wise audience by
dipping my toe into the controversy that is the Sydney
Sweeney non sense. Zach, have you been following along now
that the fact that Sydney Sweeney's a Nazi? Yeah, I

(10:37):
had some of the drama with that ad. Have you
seen the ad?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean I honestly had not seen the ad until
I went and looked for it this morning because I
was so aggravated by all the commentary and everything else
is going on yesterday. It struck me though, all of
this nonsense about the Sydney Sweeney ad, And let me
just give you a clue as to what the conflagration
is all about. Sidney Sweeney, hot Hollywood starlet, old school

(11:03):
kind of bombshell, look big boobs that she is perfectly
happy putting on display. Sidney Sweeney is the new face
of the American Eagle jeans and in it, let me
just play the audio for you. Can I get my computer, Zach.
Let me play the audio. And as this audio is playing,
you are. The camera is panning in a close shot

(11:24):
of Sidney Sweeney's body, starting at her knees and working
its way up as she buttons her pants and says
the following.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oopstands are passed on from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color personality lea and I color.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
My jeans are blue, Sidney Sweeney hasburg gens.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
See how clever that is, How funny that is, so
funny and clever. Get it jeans j E A N
S and jeans g E N E S. Get we
see what they did. First of all, the vocal fry
in this commercial makes my skin crawl. I'm just gonna
say it. The chan's at children, and I'm not knocking
Sydney Sweeney. This is like a thing young women do

(12:10):
and it makes me absolutely crazy. But the vocal fry
is bad enough, But the entire that's the whole commercial,
you guys, at fifteen seconds, right, and yet and I
have yet to find a man complaining about this. I
have yet to find one man on social media saying
anything negative about this ad. It's not even particularly sexy, right,
I mean, she's buttoning her pants, but who cares. It's

(12:34):
not even like overtly over the top crazy sexy. It's
all women who are crawing up in the cult being men.
Now I'm being told and I can only have blood
hery blue eyes. It's just like the Nazis. It's like
they want to bring back eugenics and kill all of

(12:54):
us that don't look like it. I mean, it is
just the dumbest piece of garbage. And they're calling Sydney
Sweeney a Nazi. And I thought yesterday I somehow went
down a rabbit hole that I didn't want to go down,
and here I am, And I thought to myself, doesn't
this prove that actual racism is pretty much dead in
the United States of America. Doesn't this prove that we

(13:17):
have so little actual racism in society that we now
have to look at a commercial of a blonde hair,
blue eyed girl for a brand of jeans. By the way,
you don't like the commercial, don't buy the jeans. It's
really not that complicated. It's very very simple. There are
multiple organizations that I will not give my money to.

(13:38):
Hecks their entire countries. I won't give my money to.
That's how I speak, That's what I do. I don't
take to the internet and cry. There is a video
of an African American woman that if I knew her,
I would call and check on her because she watches
the commercial and starts crying about how good white people

(13:59):
need to stand up and do something, and I'm like,
do what what? It's all so stupid. My friend David
Strong from hot air dot com actually wrote a really,
really good column about the most interesting part of this.
In the grand scheme of things, the most interesting part
of this is that we have watched the media narrative

(14:21):
unfold and we've seen it in real time. MSNBC's headline
Sidney Sweeney's ad shows an unridled cultural shift towards whiteness.
Advertisements are always mirrors of society, and sometimes they reflect
is ugly and startling. So now white women are ugly

(14:43):
and startling. I think about that for a second now, guys,
I've commented in the near past, in the last few years,
if commercials were an actual reflection of society, no white
people would be married to white people because in every
commercial you have to have a black person, you have
to have a white person. Usually they're married together. If
you can slide in an Asian person, there you have

(15:06):
just and an Hispanic person, and you've checked all those boxes.
If you only watch commercials, you would think that no
one ever married someone of their same race. Then all
children are mixed, because that's all that's in commercials.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem at all
with interracial marriage. I think that mixed babies are adorable.
What the reality is is that interracial marriage, interracial relationships
are still a shockingly low part of our society. Of course,
they exist, and I hope they flourish and live and
laugh in love until you know they're very, very old.

(15:40):
But that being said, commercials are not a reflection of society.
Commercials are a vehicle to sell a product. And something
we've known for a very long time is that beautiful
people sell things well, no matter what we've been told
over the last few years, as they have shoved I

(16:00):
mean all manner of person. And don't get me wrong again,
I have no ill will towards someone who is clinically
obese appearing in a commercial. I have no ill will
towards someone who is genuinely not attractive appearing in a commercial.
But we've had that shoved down and told us this
is beauty, this is beautiful. That's the end of postmodernism.

(16:23):
The thing about postmodernism is that you're supposed to believe
that there is no standard for anything, that all standards
are completely arbitrary, and it doesn't matter. This is why
the gender ideology situation has flourished, because it's the end
of postmodernism. And this is just backlash to the end
of postmodernism and all of these people complaining, all of

(16:45):
these people that want to you know, one lady called
up the American Eagle service line. This is actually what
started me down the rabbit hole, you should say. And
I didn't grab this video. I should have because it
was honestly classic. She looks like the kind of person
that everybody at work avoids because all she does is complain,

(17:06):
like that's it. And she's on the phone with a
customer service person in a call center and she starts
by going, yes, why are you using eugenics? And white
supremacy and you're advertising is that kind of sell genius?
I mean, she's like barking at this person who probably
makes five dollars an hour in India if that, and
she's yelling at this. I mean, it's just it's so crazy.

(17:30):
But they've they've run out of real instances of racism,
they've run out of real things to find fault with,
and now they're just across the board making stuff up.
And it's kind of fascinating to watch, isn't it. I mean,
it's it's kind of interesting to see how it's all
playing out. But yeah, I was forced to weigh in

(17:53):
on the Sydney sweeneyad and what are your thoughts on
Sydney Sweeney in a purely shallow way, Zach. I mean,
she's extremely attractive, if that's what you're asking me. I
think she's very attractive. I don't think she's a great actress.
I think she's a good actress for her genre. I
don't think she's a great actress. She's never gonna give

(18:15):
like a Meryl Street type actress or run for her money.
But then I would have said that about Pamela Anderson
a long time ago. You guys, I am way too
invested in Pamela Anderson leam Neeson dating. I'm way too
invested in this. I want them to get married. I
want to be invited to the wedding. I don't know
either of them, by the way, but Pamela Anderson I

(18:36):
probably would have said the same thing about her when
she was on Baywatch. But she was outstanding in the
last show Girl, So I should probably keep my comments
to myself. Nation and unleashing prosperity and all of that

(18:56):
other stuff. In just a few minutes, but he's in
DC and there's a big storm, so he's out in
trouble getting connected. But I got to share something with you.
It is the one hundredth anniversary of KOA this year.
We're celebrating. We're having a big shindig here at the
station today. It's just a great time. Something just happened
on the break that is so it's such a perfect

(19:18):
example of how talk radio cuts across a lot of
the other noise. And it came courtesy of a listener
named John. I had not gotten the email before. I
saw John in the lobby with a big old bag
that says BUCkies, and he said Hey, I sent you
an email, but I wanted to drop this off. I'll
read the email to you, Mandy. I'm just about to

(19:41):
drop off a bag of BUCkies goodies, and I heard
media from your favorite Wyoming listeners that we curated that
will help with your surgery recovery. All being a pickup,
I'm John. No need to call the SWAT team. We
listen every day on the ranch. I'm down here today
to do some stuff. Thanks, No, thank you, John, because
I don't know any other medium where you have people

(20:03):
that are concerned enough about your health. Because I'm having
surgery tomorrow. If you hadn't heard that, I'm gonna be
out for the next week recovering from that. Hopefully it's
gonna be no big deal and I'll be good as
new and all that good stuff. But that being said,
you don't realize and don't please everybody. Doesn't have to
bring me a bag of stuff from Bucky. That's not
what I'm trolling for right now. But when things like
this happen, you are just reminded of the connection that

(20:26):
you have. And it's a weird connection because you guys
have a lot more information about me than I have
about you. Right, So it's a little bit one sided,
but it's always so shocking in a delightful way when
something like this happens, because you're reminded that I'm not
just sitting here by myself staring at Zach through the
glass as that tries to keep me on track, and

(20:48):
there's actual bodies out there, and there there's people out there,
and you guys are listening, and without you, none of
this really matters. I mean, I would just be an
insane person talking to myself, right ultimately, So I just
wanted to say not just thank you to John, but
thank you to all of the listeners who are out
there who are invested in this program and have been

(21:08):
invested in Kowa for a really long time, because it
is this is the best job in the world. I
say it all the time, even when I'm going insane
during an election season, I still am keenly aware that
this is the best job in the world because I
get to share whatever comes into my mind, which is
so frightening. Wo I mean, I hold back. You guys

(21:29):
only get a small snippet of it, but man, you
do forget that there's humans out there and now have
the biggest bag of Bucky Snacks that I think Bucky's has.
I don't know if they have a bigger bag and
even better than that. And I hope that Darntutan guy
is listening. John was down in Florida and he found
a shirt that says darntutin and now I have one.

(21:52):
So not only will I say Darntutan on the radio,
I will be wearing a Darntutan shirt very very quickly.
So you guys rock. That's really what I'm here to say.
You guys rock. Now. Steve is gonna join us. When
he joins us, we'll get to him when he makes
it on here. Some of the comments about Sidney Sweeney
are kind of interesting. Mandy miss Sweeney may not be

(22:12):
a great actress, but she's got her face and body,
I might add out in the public eye. Who knows
what may become of this campaign for her and what
you expect Meryl Streep to sell jeans? Lol, I responded with,
Meryl Streep could sell the heck out of some mom jeans.
I'd be like, oh, Meryl's wearing those, I'll go ahead
and get a pair for myself. Although she's super short,

(22:34):
so her end scene wouldn't work for me, Mandy, Sidney
Sweeney was great in Anyone but You with Glenn Powell.
Both actors were fun and did a nice job in
the comedy, very entertaining. Okay, Glenn is also very attractive.
You got me there. It does make it easier when
they're easy on the eyes, doesn't it, Mandy? How long?

(22:55):
Hang on one second? I am going to Zach, hang
on one second. I'm going to I'm going to up up. No,
you know what, don't turn my my I'm way hang on.
Let's see. I'm just calling Steve right now. Oh no,
because the phones are the phones working again? Do we
know after yesterday? I don't know if they did. Uh,

(23:16):
we could do it. We're gonna do it. Okay, we
could do the phone, so I can make that work. Okay,
hang on, I'm gonna do it like this. And now
you guys are going to listen as I call Steve
Moore on the air. And if you knew Steve, you
would know that this is entirely typical of Steve Moore
and that it's often that that things go sideways when
I try and have him on the show. And then

(23:36):
and I'm calling him right now, we'll see if he
picks up. Yeah, So we're just we're gonna do this
because this is, like Ross always says, the semi professional radio,
this is actually church softball league radio that we're hearing
right now. As I call, you can't hear because I've
got him on the other line in case, and of
course he's not going to pick up. He's not going
to pick up. I'm calling you now. We'll see if

(24:00):
he picks up the phone. Steve is like the absent
minded professor, but under all that, he's kind of a genius,
so it's worth the trouble to try and get him
on the air. I'm just gonna let it ring and
ring and ring, and no, he's not picking up the phone,
so we'll just figure that out later. Zach. I'm gonna
text you his number in just a second, okay, and

(24:21):
you can call him back and see if we can
get him on the phone. Because trying to get Steve
to do anything is somewhat challenging sometimes. Let me see here,
and again, you guys don't try this when you do
your radio show. You want to be much more professional
than this. But I did tell you in my defense,
it was a last minute edition of Steve Moore onto

(24:43):
the show. So hang on, I gotta hang this up.
And I'm sure this is fascinating as I'm sitting here
saying nice things about you guys on the radio, and
then I'm I'm basically just killing time. Maybe evit, we'll
do it live. That is such a great reference to tech.
Thank you for that, Thank you for that. Let me

(25:04):
do this, and then we're gonna share with Zach, and
he says he's standing by. Let's do this. We're gonna
send you to Zach and then Zach can get him,
and then we'll just get him at the top of
the hour. We'll just break right here Zach and get in. Oh,
so we'll have a longer, you know, we'll just go
to break a tiny bit early so we can get
him after the break.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
So let's do that.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Let's go to break, We'll get Steve on and we'll
be back bourn Is riding out a storm in Washington,
DC right now.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Hi, Steve, Hey, many great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Glad you could make it my friend. So let's jump
right in. Let's start with tariffs. Okay, so we've actually
seen and I'm gonna be honest, Steve, when I saw
the deal that President Trump cut with the EU, I
thought it was a joke. I've never seen a more
lopsided deal in my entire life. With the American people

(26:06):
on the winning side of it. That was shocking to me.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
It was sort of shocking to me too, because remember
you go back to even look at the clips three
or four months ago, the Europeans that we're never going
to negotiate with Donald Trump. You know that joke. You know,
he's trying to take advantage of us and we're not
going to gave into him. Well guess what they shaved
into him. And what Trump did is with these trade deals.
And you know me, You've knowel me for a long time, Andy,
And likewise, I'm kind of a conventional free trader. I

(26:32):
believe trade obviously is the essence of what economics is
all about. But what Trump has basically been able to
do quite effectively, frankly, is force these other countries to
play by the rules, to level the playing field and
lower their terrorists on our dairy products, our timber, our
agricultural products, our technology products, our manufactured items. That's going

(26:54):
to be good for jobs here in America. It's going
to be good for wages, and it's going to be
good for the people in these European countries because they get,
you know, the American products that they don't have access to,
so a big win. I can't even keep track. Many
of people ask me, what's happening with the Canada situation,
What's what happened in Mexico, Japan, Korea. I can't keep
track of all these countries, but it all seems to

(27:15):
be pretty good.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
You know.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Look, it makes me nervous because every time Trump talks
about tariffs, the market goes down. But every time he
consummates one of these trade deals, what happens to the market? Yes,
right back up again.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, the market is going great, gangbusters right now. I
don't think anybody, even no matter how much they hate Trump,
they're going to have to admit that the market is
really strong right now. But let me let me ask
this question. Tomorrow is allegedly d Day. We were hoping
to get all kinds of trade deals. What is going
to happen now because we've got some of our biggest
trading partners kind of locked up, they're working on China.
What does this mean for all of the other like

(27:47):
little minor countries that want access. How quickly do those
get done?

Speaker 6 (27:52):
Well, they better hurry up and make that phone call
the way. Yeah, and you know I talked to my
friend Scott Assa and who's the Spressury sectory. That an
amazing job, John, You know, he says his phone has
been ringing off the hook, that the companies are trying
to make these deals. I don't exactly know whether Trump
might extend you might have seen. I think this morning
he extended the deadline with Mexico, which is, by the way,

(28:15):
people don't realize this many, but our two biggest trader partners,
you know, together are Canada Mexico, so we need to
That's one of the most important things to make sure
we have a free trade deal with them. I'm a
big believer in the Reagan vision that North America should
be one big free trade zone. But you know, Canada
Mexico have not always played by the rules. So we'll
see what happens there. But look at the stock market,

(28:37):
as you just said, it is back in mid April.
I think the last time I was on your show,
I was sitting there on that I was standing on
the ledge ready to jump. I mean socks that followed
by twenty five hundred points, and it just looked like
a miserable situation. And look at the situation today where
you know, folks, if you're not in the market, you know,
it's not too late to get in because we're I
think we're ready for a ripper and bull market at

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last four or five years.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I hope so, because my four oh one k needs it.
So after the last few years we got here.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Anyway, I bought in Nvidia. I got to say this.
You know, I'm not the great world's greatest investor by
any means. And my wife said, I'm going to buy
this company, in Vidia, like five years ago. It's the
one stock that we've made so much money on it,
you know, So I'm rooting for our big tech company.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
You know we have.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
It's an amazing thing. We have five companies, say in America
that have over a trillion dollars of net worth. That's
more money in terms of networth than all the companies
in Europe combined.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean Europe has done it to themselves. We
can have a longer conversation about how socialism and green
energy in Germany there total disaster. They're destroying their entire
industrial base. There. Let me jump over to something totally
different than we were talking about before the show, and
that is a lot of people, including Donald Trump, super
mad at FED chair Jerome Hell. And I'm not a

(29:57):
fan of droom Pal. I know you're not a super
fan of Droome Pell, but I think he's putting the
blame for mortgage rates in the wrong place. And I'm
kind of sort of explaining this to the audience earlier.
They're tied to the ten year treasury So what needs
to happen to bring that ten year treasury rate down
significantly enough to make a difference in mortgage rates to
unleash the housing market.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Well, of course, everyone wants lower interest rates, and including
the guy who wants the lower interest rates more than anybody,
who's probably the guy in the White House house, right,
he loves lower interest rates, and so, of course, but
I think there's a mythology out there, unfortunately held by
a myth that's held by a lot of my conservative
friends that think all the FED has to do is
just lower interest rates. Everything's to to be wonderful. Well,

(30:41):
I wish that were the case, but really it isn't.
The FED doesn't really control interest rates. Interest rates are
controlled by the market, you know, the supply and demand
for credit. And so I'll give you an example what
I'm talking about, because people's kind of eyes glaze when
you talk about monetary policy. But I'm going to try
to keep this very simple, Mandy. If you look at
what happened before the election, the Fed lowered rates, which

(31:03):
by the way, was a little bit outrageous because the
inflation rate was higher than than it is today and
he won't lower rates now, but he did that for,
of course, Kamala Harris, because he wanted her to win
the election. But nonetheless, they lowered the federal funds rate.
And then do you know what happened to mortgage rates?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
They went up.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
They went up, Yeah, yeah, they went up. They didn't
go down, So it had the opposite effect that everybody thought.
And the reason they went up is because what drives
And by the way, nobody cares about what the Fed
funds rate is. What everybody cares about, what's the rate
on the ten year Treasury buil because we have thirty
seven trillion dollars of that? What is the interest rate
on the thirty year mortgage? Because everybody. You know, we've

(31:43):
got a housing market. We want to be make housing affordable. Well,
guess what you know when people's ext when the market's
expectation of inflation goes up, then the interest rate you're
going to charge on a thirty year mortgage is going
to go up for any thirty year long term bond
because you have to make your money back plus inflation.
So my point is, I'm not totally convinced that a

(32:06):
reduction in interest rates right now is going to help
the economy all that much. I would probably support a
twenty five or fifty basis point cut, but I mean
Trump wats two hundred points. You know, I don't see that.
I think it would. It would cause more inflation, and
that would really hurt the economy.

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There I go, Stevemore, we'll talk to again soon, my friend. Okay,
all right, Oh that's Steve Moore. We'll be right back.
Big article today in coloradopolitics dot com. The headline, let

(33:21):
me just read it to you. Colorado budget faces one
billion dollars shortfall. Atalys say it's due to federal tax overhaul.
Joining me now with perhaps a different perspective, is Senator
Barbara Kirkmeyer. She's been a part of the Joint Budget
Committee for the past few years and has been sounding
the alarm about the spending that has been codified over

(33:43):
the last few years by Democrats who have taken one
time dollars from ARPA and created ongoing programs with them,
and now I feel like the chickens have come home
to Ruth. So, first of all, Senator Kirkmeyer, welcome back
to the show.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, we're gonna start off with something that happened at
the end of Roskiminski show, because I came in, as
I do at the end of every Rosskiminski show, and
he was talking to the governor and Ross asked a question,
did you just grab the governor's answer? Zach, is that
what you grab?

Speaker 6 (34:15):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Wait, hang on, I just want to set up the
question if you just grab the answer, So Ross asked him.
He said, look, you know your party is not really
known for cutting spending, So how do you plan to
wrangle your party into line to cut the kind of
spending that we need to cut because we're in the
whole of billion dollars And this is what the governor
had to say.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
You're gonna see really funny politics for us.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
You're gonna see Republicans advocating for more spending and less
cuts and bigger government.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
I mean, you're you know, yeah, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Democrats and responsibility governing, they're gonna have to agree to
us one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
You will also hear Republicans making the.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Argument, don't cut this, don't cut this, and then they
don't have to add up the numbers because they are
not governing all of a sudden, they don't want to
cut anything, and the budget is out of balance and
they're big spenders.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
So you will hear wacky politics out of this.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
There's no question you can follow it, you know, if
there's a special session and beyond. But at the end
of the day, I hope it's bypartist in governing majority.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
But perhaps Republicans feel that you can score.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
Political points by opposing these cuts because you know they
value healthare they value schools?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
So I don't know what to predict.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
Artistisanship absolutely enters a picture in terms of how legislators pay.
At the end of the day, we just need to
get it done with the majority, whether it's all Democrats,
whether it's bypartists, and whatever it is. A majority will
need to figure out how to stay balance the budget,
because that is of course a customers.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Requirement, a good one. I would add one eye support
we should balance the budget now.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Senator Kirkmeyer I know you're probably shocked to find out
that the Republicans in Colorado are the party of big
spending and big government. What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I think that is funny. He's funny. He's a funny guy.
That's the best one liner I've heard all.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Day today, and it came from the governor that we're
not going to want to cut. Seriously, it has not
been the issue with the minority party. I mean, he's
one party and the one party can party. They have
control of every you know, the House, the Senate, and
the Governor's office. Why haven't they fixed the budget? I
mean in this last year, when I kept saying everybody
needs to cut ten percent, every department should cut ten percent,

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we didn't get there. In a year when inflation was
two point four percent, we increased our general fund operating
budget by.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Three point six percent.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
So in a year, after I lectured them on the
state floor day after day after day, I mean they
got tired of hearing me, we still increased our general
fund operating budget, which is what needs to be cut
over inflation.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
So and that would be on the Dems. That would
be on them. So we'll see. But if the Governor's.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Coming in thinking he's going to cut K through twelve education,
he needs to think again, this guy needs to actually
define what the priorities are and.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
What they should be.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
And in my book, that's K through twelve education, that's
medicaid provider rates, it's neglected and abuse kids, and you know,
I mean the list kind of goes on from there.
But those are the top three that we should be funding.
Those are the top three things that this governor in
his budget request last year, thought it was a good
idea to try and cut and keep a hold of
all these other projects that we just don't even need.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I bet he can't even list.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
All the projects, but anyways and new programs that he started,
but I would like to he is going to have
to cut.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Well, I'd like to ask what you just listed off
three priorities. What do you think the governor's priorities are
that he's demonstrated in his budget requests that are different
than education, medicaid providers and nected, neglected and abuse kids.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Sure, I'll tell you what his priorities were in the
budget request back in November first of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
He wanted to fund that big ugly Bridge. You wanted
to fund a.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
New taken booth down at the State Fair because you know,
it's our one hundred and fiftieth anniversary. He wanted to
cut reural health care, so that wasn't a priority.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
He wanted to cut.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Funding for neglected and abuse kids, so obviously that's not
a priority. He came in cutting Medicaid provider rates, not
a priority for him. And he wanted to cut K
through twelve education by one hundred and fifty million bucks.
Again not a priority. So I'm thinking all that other
stuff that we don't really need are his priorities and
what I think are core critical components of government. A

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person who does know how to govern talking here is
what we should be funding. So if he's going to
call me a big spender because I fund those things
that are utmost important to the people in the state
of Colorado, you know, like public safety, education, healthcare, then
go ahead, call me a big spender. He's right, We're
not going to cut those, but we can cut all
those other things, like that office of just Transition that

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needs to.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Go the all the new employees.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
You know, over the course of the last six seven years,
we have increased employees state employees in the state by
about one thousand employees year over year.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Now, granted some of those are.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Within the Department of Higher Education, but he's still signed
off on it.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
When he signed that budget. We are I mean, we're
close to seventy thousand new employees. Are seventy thousand employees.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
In the state of Colorado, with at least seven thousand
of them being new employees. So he's the one who's
not going to want to cut Why didn't he do
hiring priests?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
You know it?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
And he doesn't have to wait for the legislature. By
the way, while we have to budget.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
To current law, he doesn't have to spend a current law.
He could cut spending.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
He can do what Bill Owens did and tell all
his department heads, you're going to have to cut ten
percent this year, so start cutting now and let me
know where it's at kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
But he hasn't done that.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
In fact, yesterday in front of the legislative committee that
I wasn't actually invited to be at, but I went to. Anyways, Farandino,
the governor's budget guy, director of Farandino, said he's telling
people they need to cut two point five percent.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
How the heck does he think that's going to.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Get get us to a balanced budget. I mean, that's
not even close, just not even close.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
So we'll see what.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
They come up with. I'd like to see what their
plan is. And let's see what he's going to say
his priorities are, because if they aren't education, medicaid provider rates,
and neglected and abuse kids, then he's in the wrong place.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
So let's talk about medicaid for a moment. Because we
have expanded he medicaid. We are now we have a
program to cover I legal immigrants. We are allowing people
to do one hundred and thirty eight percent of the
poverty level to sign up for medicaid. We have able bodied,
childless people that are on medicaid. None of these people
were actually intended to be covered by medicaid. Medicaid is
our biggest expenditure in the state. I understand what do

(40:14):
we do with that? Is there a real potential to
scale back some of that expansion.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, first of all, the program that one of the
programs you were talking about for undocumented immigrants, the covering
in all Colorados, and then there's the omni soluted program
which are both health insurance programs. I'm not sure why
we need them both in the first place, but they
both are. Those are for undocumented immigrants and those are
not actual Medicaid programs.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I keep asking everybody what criteria, eligibility criteria did the
FEDS change, because I.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Didn't see it in there.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
All they've done is said that those people who are
able bodied and I mean keep in mind able bodied
individuals without dependents get to be on Medicaid and we're
pain for that.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
And all they said was you've got to work at
part time or go to school or volunteer. You've got
to do something.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
And the reality is, from what I hear about sixty
percent of those individuals already do have a job.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
So again, you know, we went through this. Our state
went through this, so did the rest of the states.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Went through this back in like nineteen ninety six when
Bill Clinton was president and we did welfare reform and
added on work participation rates, required individual responsibility contracts of
people who are on welfare, and said you've got to
go get to work, or you've got to go to school,
and you could only be on temporary aid to needy
families for two years at a time, five.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Years as a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
We figured that out and we didn't need three thousand
new employees. Like the executive Director of health Care Policy
and Finances trying to say, so, you know, maybe they
should go take a look back in history and instead
of repeating their history, go back and repeat somebody's history
that actually worked. Because right now, Healthcare Policy and Finance
should be looking at that Combined Benefits Management Program, which

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is the computer system that hasn't worked since inception.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
So they should be going back and looking at that
to try and make that work.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
And they should look at the application process because right now,
what I'm hearing it's like I don't know, I'm probably
going to exaggerate here, but it's like forty pages or
it's so got off along that people can't get through it.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
So how about the executive director, instead of going out
and scaring people all.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Over the place, just go fix that application process, Go
fix the redetermination. So it's a heck of a lot
quicker and smoother. I mean, we've got computers, we've got
the Internet. We got to be able to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
So where would you suggest they start. You've got a
cut of billion dollars. You've got a billion dollar shortfall.
What's on the Barb Kirkmeyer shopping block to get us
through a billion dollars quickly?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Well, this is where it's going to be painful, because
the places that we need to look at are.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Going to be tax credits and then new programs or
programs that just aren't working.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
And this is where the Democrats have a really difficult time.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I mean they wring their hands. I mean, seriously, Mandy.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Last year in the Joint and Budget Committee, it took
four hours to cut one hundred thousand dollars out of
the Department of Agriculture's budget four hours and we were
one point two billion dollars short last year in our
you know that we had to cut in our budget,
but it took four hours for them, and I finally
I said, oh my god, we're never going to get done.
A few people don't learn how to make a decision.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
But that was the Department of Agriculture. I'm like, you
know what.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
And we waited till the very end before we took
the long bill across the street to the other ninety
four legislators to vote on the school finance to vote
on higher education, and to vote on the Medicaid provider rates.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I think we should do those three things. First. We
should set our budget.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
And then determine our budget around them and start cutting
programs that you know that just aren't necessary anymore, or
that maybe we just can't afford. And so we're gonna
have to look at programs, and we're going to look
at some of those tax credits. Because here's what I
heard yesterday in the hearing that the Democrat legislative leadership
had and the two minority leaders were there as well,

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so two Republicans. Basically, I heard this, what are we
going to do about those crazy Republicans back in d C.
They have the audacity to tell people we're going to
cut your taxes and give you a tax break, and
because of that, our revenues are going to be less
so and this was speaker of McCluskey who said this, basically,
so because of those corporations are getting the tax break,

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we're going to have to figure out how to raise
taxes to get our revenues back up. So those crazy
Republicans in DC are saying we're going to cut taxes
and give everybody a tax break.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
And those crazy Democrats.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
In Colorado are saying, oh, not so fast, We're just
going to increase your taxes.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
That is not something that Republicans will vote for. The
governor's correct on that.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
So let me ask this question specifically about that about
raising taxes, because you are part of a lawsuit that
has just been filed about the move that was done
in another bill that essentially says, even if you get
a break on overtime, we're still going to count that
as taxable income because we don't want to lose those

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tax dollars. You're arguing that that's a tax increase in
a violation of Tabor. Correct.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Correct, And it is a tax increase.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Anytime you have a change in tax policy that increases
revenue to the state, you're supposed to go to a
vote of the people.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Anytime that you have a tax change.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
That increases revenue, you're supposed to go to a vote
of the people.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
And it specifically.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Says in that statute it was House Field twenty five,
twelve ninety six, it says that you're right that if
the federal government exempts taxes on overtime, we are going
to add them back on.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
We are going to add on a tax.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I think it's pretty clear that they should have gone
to gone to a vote of the people to see
if they wanted to tax their overtime.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Sorry, I just have to laugh about it because it's
crazy to me that they think that's okay.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
You know, like they can't figure out how to manage
a budget, they can't figure out how to govern, They
don't know what their priorities are. This is one party control.
They could do anything they wanted to do because it
is one party.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
They've got the majority. I'm in the minority.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, they've gotten us in this budget mess all by themselves.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
The first thing they did is they blamed COVID. Remember,
I mean, we got all this money.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
It was supposed to be for one time spending, but gosh,
we just could and help ourselves. So we turned it
into ongoing spending, and we started overspending and overspending and overspending.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
And then because we can't we can't blame.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
COVID forever, they started blaming Tabor. Tabor's the problem, you know,
Tabor's why we don't have nice things in government. That's
what Senator Jeff Bridges used to say all the time.
And he finally stopped saying it because I would retort back, Tabor.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Is why the people get to have nice things, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Tabor is what limits government, and that's what we need.
If we didn't have tabor, oh my gosh, we'd be
even in worse shape.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
But so then they blamed it on tabor.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Well, now they figured out, you know, in our June forecast,
they already figured out we were going to have to
make cuts to text credits and cuts to programs.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
We already had this discussion. This was not new, This
was all prior to the federal bill passing.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
And now it's like, oh, wait a minute, why miss
this opportunity.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Let's just blame it on the Feds.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Let's blame it on the Republicans back there, because silly,
crazy Republicans are just trying to give you a tax relief.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Hi. So I'm going to use it one later and
see if I can make a map of which states
are now facing a budget shortfall because of the big
beautiful bill. Let's just assume that that's correct. I bet
you there's a bunch of states that aren't. That's the thing.
It's like, why are we in this pickle when other
states are not in this pickle, and I think that's
the big thing. Or why not ask why not have

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the Republican leadership go and say, look, we need ten
percent from every department. Can you guys find it? We'd
love for you to provide for us programs, redundancies, whatever
you think is not working, whatever we can take. Give
us ten percent. If we find out we don't need
ten percent, we'll give you the extra money. But why
not take a more proactive stance if the governor's not

(47:59):
willing to do it. I only say this because I
have a friend who worked for a private company. It
was a large company, but it was a family owned
and they had a couple of really rough years and
the owner of the company called everybody in for a
meeting and said exactly that, guys, I need ten percent
of your budget. You know how you spend your money
better than I do, so you figure out where we
can take that from. And everybody, no, it's a private company,

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so it's a little bit different in terms of incentive.
But everybody went back to their departments and said, where
do we have ten percent? They then provided him a
list and it was painless because everybody had buy in.
You know, everybody was already on board with with what
we needed to do exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
So I did that at the Joint Budget Committee and
I said, look, everybody, you just need to cut ten percent.
Because here was the thing. You know, we were trying
to find one point two billion. Part of that was
the three hundred and fifty million from the you know,
ballad measure for back the Blue, the Prop one pint thirty,
and you know, I figured out a process for that
to make sure that it you know, we were able

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to work that into our budget.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
But I told her in the sessions that we were having.
We have hearings.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
First, we have briefings at the Joint Budget Committee with departments,
then we have hearings, and then we have figure setting
the whole way through. I'm like, you guys need to
cut ten percent. I told Judicial you know, there's the
judicial branch, and they're like, no, no, no, we need new judges,
we need to do.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
This, we need all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I mean, they wanted to increase their budget skyrocketed. I
lectured them all I'm telling you, I said, we need
ten percent cut. They wouldn't come back in and you
know what, again, I'm on the minority it's me and
Representive Taggert were the only two Republicans on a six
member joint Budget Committee, and the other four Dems were like, no,
they just wouldn't make all those cuts. They just couldn't
make the cuts even this year. On that last day

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before we were again closing out the budget and bringing
it over to the other ninety four members, I told
them all, I said, you realized, you've looked at the overview,
right you realize that we have one time cuts in here,
one time spending at least a half billion dollars that
I can add up in my head right now. That's
we're going to have to add it on to that
next year. And we're gonna have to find that next year.

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And there aren't going to be any more couch cushions
to look under. There's no more shellgame shenanigans that you
get to do with the budget. We are going to
have to cut programs or tax credits, and you all
are going to have to come to the table and
start answering where you want to make those cuts, because
everything I propose they would just, you know, say, yeah,
we don't really want to do that.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
To my earlier point, I know you're in the minority,
and I'm not trying to beat you up, but I
would love to see Republican leadership kind of go to
the Democrats and say, look, we don't want to make
these unpopular cuts. We don't want to cut things that
are going to be detrimental, So why not get the
buy in from these different departments. It takes the pressure
off of us of having to make these difficult decisions

(50:48):
when we're asking people in these various departments to cut
the dead weight. And you know as well as I do,
Barb in every operation, whether it's a private company or
it is a public organization, there is dead weight that
can go and that's what i'd like to see go
first or up. Kirkmaier, I don't envy you. I agree,
I don't envy you this special session. I agree with you. Yeah, yeah,

(51:09):
I think it'd be amazing. I'm going to call Rose
and see if I can put that our ear because,
at a bare minimum, one of the things I want
to see out of the Republican Party in the state.
And we've got new leadership in place, and from what
I understand, there's a pretty intensive focus on winning elections,
not just being ideological pure or or you know, making

(51:31):
sure that we're saying the right things. They really want
to win elections, and in order to do that, we
got to demonstrate to the people of Colorado that we
have good ideas, right that there are good ideas, and
we've got to put them out there, get them in
front of people, make sure they're heard, and if they
don't get taken up, well, there's not a whole lot
you can do about it because of the counts in
the House, in the Senate.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
But there is this separation between the branches, right between
the legislative branch and the administrative branch, but even within
with the budget when it comes across the street, we
all the legislators have the opportunity to amend the budget
and put their fingerprints on the budget, and Republicans do
come up with amendments that say, you know, let's cut
this and cut different things, like Senator Pelton said, why

(52:14):
aren't we cutting our you know, legislative pay increase, Why
aren't we cutting that second salary to the lieutenant governor.
I mean, we had all sorts of areas to cut
the budget, and the Dems all vote against it, and
so we just can't get it through, you know, and
the Governor's office.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
They're his departments. They don't I mean, I'm not saying
they don't try to work with us, but they don't
have to. And certainly when it comes to the budget,
everything's a secret.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Even that meeting yesterday with the leadership, you know, all
that information that was there, the Democrats had it before
the Republicans did, like we got it at the meeting.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Most of them.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
You could tell by the scripted messaging and the scripted
questions that they had it at least a couple of
days in advance.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
The newspaper had it in advance before anybody else.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I mean, so we don't even get it. So they
do a lot of stuff behind closed doors. They talk
just amongst themselves. They don't want to include the minority
party because again one party control, they don't have to,
so they just go off on their merry little way
doing whatever they want to do.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Overspending.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
It's like Senator Rich said at one point, she goes,
we don't need a special session, we need an intervention
to help them with their addiction to overspending.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
And I thought, I'm going to use that janets everywhere.
I can because that.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Is it exactly. And again we can try. We can
try to have meetings. I mean, just for example, I
asked Senator Bridges, who is the chair of the Joint
Budget Committee.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
I asked him yesterday in.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
A text, like why are we not having we meaning
the Joint Budget Committee. Why are we not having this
type of hearing? Why aren't we getting this information? We're
the ones who deal with this issue. It's in statute,
it's supposed to be us. Why aren't we doing this?
He doesn't respond. Then I said, can't we have a meeting?
Doesn't respond. He has not responded to me. So I
told Minority Leader since them this morning and I said, look,

(53:57):
if he doesn't respond by tomorrow noon, I say.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
We schedule or our own meeting.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Invite the chief Economists, you know from Legislative Council Services.
We invite Director Fernandino from OspB. We invite Craig Harper
from the as the Director of the Joint Budget Committee,
and a few other people, probably Commissioner.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Conway the Division of Insurance. And we ask them our questions.
So now I don't need them, We don't need them
to give us the presentation. Again, we need to.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Be able to ask them questions and start drilling down
on this as to what can we really start cutting.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
And so that's where we're that's where we are headed.
If if we.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Can't get a hearing with the Joint Budget Committee, then
we're just going to do our own thing.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Senator Barb Kirkmeyer is my guest. I will be talking
to you, I hope, through this special session, and boys,
this one is going to be fun to watch. Thank
you for making time for me today.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Yes, absolutely, thank you, and you have a great day.
And let's keep go cutting that budget.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Aim into that that Senator Barb Kirkmeyer, We'll be right back.
I was listening to Keenan's news as sometimes I do
when I'm not busy doing other things, and I heard
him talking about the lawsuit that's been filed by yet

(55:09):
another Democrat against the Trump administration. I mean, is anybody
else sick of this yet? I am sick of it.
I am really sick of it. And what exactly are
they suing for? This is all they have. They don't
have good ideas, they don't have anything new to provide,
anything of value to add to the conversation. All they

(55:32):
have is lawsuits. And some of them are beyond ridiculous.
The Planned parent had lawsuit that Phil Wiser just signed
on to. Are you kidding me? Let me explain how
it worked. Congress, which in the Constitution is given the
power to deal with spending, they passed a spending bill

(55:53):
that took money away from Planned Parenthood, a private company
that is not a governmental agency. And now Democrats are
suing over a law that was actually passed out of
the House in the Senate, signed by the President because
they say that they're somewhere somewhere they found some kind

(56:15):
of constitutional provision that says Planned Parenthood must get money
to kill babies. I mean, the only reason they're doing it,
and I'm just gonna throw it out here because this
is the only reason they're doing it. They're doing it
for fundraising. They're doing it because they want to be
able to say to the people that they're going to
try and build money get money from that they want

(56:36):
to I'm fighting the Trump administrator, look at me fight.
I mean the follow up question to be like, are
you actually doing anything constructive, because the answer generally speaking
is no. As these cases work their way up to
the Supreme Court, you're going to see them get knocked
down like Domino's. The Supreme Court's already demonstrated that they
don't have much stomach for federal judges offering national injunctions.

(56:58):
As a matter of fact, they've got zero's stomach for it.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Zero.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
But this is all the Democrats have. They are at
the I mean, just in the modern era, historic lows
when it comes to approval, historic lows. Not even Democrats
like the Democratic Party, And instead of drilling down and
figuring out who they are and what they stand for,
they are just trying to use litigation to shut down

(57:28):
things they don't like. Now, there's always been cases that
people suing and getting sued, I mean, all of that
stuff has always happened, but never at this level. Never
has the first go to. Now, if you're Representative Jason Crow,
and oh by the way, Representative Crow, from what we
can tell from record keeping, never actually visited the ice

(57:48):
facility when Joe Biden was in office. It was still open.
I mean, he was there, it had people in it,
but he didn't really see the need to go. So
now so he can say he's fighting the Trump administration,
he trots over there in his little performative visits, and
he was waiting to be turned down. I mean, he
was obviously waiting for them to say, sorry, it's a
holiday weekend, we can't accommodate you right now, or whatever.

(58:12):
And once he got his way, he decided, why this
is my chance, this is my chance to demonstrate to
my voters now I'm fighting against Donald Trump. I'm fighting.
Isn't it ironic though, that, out of everything that Jason
Crow has done as a member of Congress, and honestly
not that I pay attention that much to him because
I'm not in his district, I can't name one thing
he's actually done. But isn't it interesting the one thing

(58:35):
he decides to hang his hat on is suing on
behalf of ilegal immigrants. Isn't that neat? How's that gonna pull?
It's amazing that the Democrats are doing so badly, really
is you know? Let's see what side of the issues
are they on. They're on the side of the issues
when it comes to children, that children should be able

(58:55):
to make permanent, irreversible changes to their body when their
frontal cortex isn't even developed yet. They're on the side
of that. Oh, they're on the side of hiding gender
transitions in schools from parents. They're on the side of
pornography and elementary school libraries. They're on the side of
men and women's sports. They're on the side of illegal immigrants,

(59:16):
whether or not they're criminals or not, they're on the
wrong side of everything, everything, And they just keep doubling down,
just keep working harder, to keep on doing the things
that nobody else wants them to do. And by the way,
that's fine with me. I'm fine with it. I'm fine,

(59:36):
fine with it. Fine, they say, okay, this, Texter said,
lots of lawsuits because much of Trump is doing is illegal. So, Texter,
let me ask you this question. If that were the case,
if they were only suing over things that they truly
believed to be illegal, why is there a lawsuit demanding
that they refund planned parenthood after a law was passed
by Congress and signed by the President of the United States.

(59:59):
Can you begin into see, Texter, why I don't take
them seriously. I'm they're not suing that the law itself
is unconstitutional. They're suing because somehow they believe that any
private organization somehow deserves or is constitutionally protected in getting
money from the taxpayers of the American people. It's just

(01:00:22):
they've gone way too far, Phil Wiser. I don't even
know how many lawsuits Phil Wiser signed on to. What
is the Attorney General of the save of Colorado suing
over national stuff that has no merit here? What is that?
I'll tell you what it is. It's Phil Wiser desperate
to raise his name id as he tries to beat
Senator Michael Bennett in the Democratic primary for governor. That's

(01:00:44):
all it is. Because every time he joins a lawsuit,
guess what the headline says, Attorney General Wiser signs on
a lawsuit against the Trump administration. That's the only reason
he's doing it. I don't even think they think they're
going to win. That's the kicker. I really don't. I
don't think that they think they have any shot of
winning these because they're seeing them getting knocked out. The

(01:01:04):
higher up they go, the more they are appealed, the
higher they go in the judicial system, the more they're
getting knocked down because these federal judges have given themselves
power that the Constitution never did. Sorry about your luck, Texter,
but I just cannot take them seriously. Oh he says,
I wasn't talking specifically about planned parenthood. That's my point.

(01:01:29):
That's my point. If the Democrats were only focused on
things that you can make a really good merit based
argument were illegal, maybe then I could take them seriously.
But they're not. They're just throwing as many lawsuits against
the wall as they can to see what sticks. And
that makes it unseerious and wholly political. That's I mean.

(01:01:50):
If you can't see that, I don't think I can
help you. But these are not principled stances. These are
political stances. Can have a principled political stance, but these
are not them, not even a little bit. And if
Jason Crow and Jonah Goose were really concerned about getting
access to ice, first of all, they would have gone

(01:02:12):
to the Ice, the head of the head of Ice.
They would have said, look, dude, we tried to go
visit these as is our right as members of Congress.
And they are correct about that. By the way, there's
a law that says members of Congress can inspect these
facilities with no notice. If they'd gone to the head
of Ice and said, look, dude, we want to get
in here. Whatever we want, you got to make that happen.
That's not what they did though. The first thing they

(01:02:33):
did was file a lawsuit. You know why because it
puts their name in the news and they can send
out a fundraising mail or to their constituents saying, look
how hard I'm fighting the Trump administration. Not effectively, but
at least I'm fighting. Get in to us faster on
your phone with KOA as a preset on the iHeartRadio app.

(01:02:53):
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(01:04:05):
one is. It started off with a question. Let me scroll,
let me hang on one second, let me find the
first question, because it matters. They said, Mandy, did you
know the Federal Reserve has twenty four thousand employees? What
the heck do they do? Surprised Doge didn't take them
to the woodshed? And I responded back, they're not technically

(01:04:25):
a government agency, which is accurate, and they texted me
back and said, I think you're wrong. The Board of
Governors is appointed by the President. The Federal Reserve is
a unique creature and there is a fantastic book about
the formation of the Federal Reserve that I highly recommend.
It's called The Creature from Jekyl Island, and it's long.

(01:04:46):
It is long, but This book is so worth it
if you really want to understand how jacked up the
Federal Reserve system really is and how badly they failed
in their mission. That's the other kicker. They have failed
dramatically over and over and over again. So the Creature
from Jackaliland. Go and buy the book. But the Federal

(01:05:09):
Reserve is both independent of the US government, but it
is also subject to oversight by Congress. So it's like
this quasi governmental institution that is like one foot in
the private sector, one foot in government, and it's just
there's I don't know if there's many other things that

(01:05:30):
are quite like it. To your point, the President does
appoint the Board of Governors, but the president is also
not supposed to have any influence on the Federal Reserve.
And if you read the Creature from Jackaliland, you'll know
they tried to set it up to be free of
political influence. That's why the FED is this weird quasi

(01:05:53):
governmental organization.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
But not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
The problem that I have is that I do think
that Jerome Powell is nakedly political. And here's why. When
the FED flooded the market with money, never those stimmy checks,
everybody was so excited to get they created inflation. But
more importantly, the reason that I think that Jerome Powell
is nakedly political is that when Joe Biden was president,

(01:06:19):
he was willing to drop rates. When Donald Trump is
president with much lower inflation. Now two point seven, I
think is when it came out today, maybe two point
seven two point eight, that's still higher than it needs
to be. It is, it's still higher than it needs
to be. We need to contract the money supply a
little bit more in order to really get that under control.

(01:06:40):
That's a function of the Fed that they are not
pursuing enough. But Jerome Powell let those rates stay way
too low, way too long, I think, because Joe Biden
was president. And now the flip is, you know, the
shoes on the other foot. You got Donald Trump in office,
and all of a sudden, Jerome Powell's like, well, we
got to be cautious, we got to work on an inflation.

(01:07:01):
Oh the inflation you said was transitory, Jerome, when everybody
else was sitting out here in La La Land telling
you that it's because you printed too much money. That
is that what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I just don't think he's good at his job. I
really don't. I'm one of those people that thinks audit
the FED should be a real thing. I think we
should all know what the Federal Reserve is doing. I
think we should all hold the Federal Reserve responsible for
flooding the market with dollars. And here's the kicker, though
I can't fully blame the Federal Reserve. The reason that

(01:07:32):
Jerome Powell printed a bunch of money during COVID, and
he didn't actually go turn on the printing press, to
be clear, but they printed a ton of money because
they then sold it as debt so the federal government
could keep spending. Right, So, if the federal government didn't
have the Federal Reserve willing to print all this new money,
they simply would not have been able to keep spending

(01:07:55):
like they were spending because the interest rates on the
debt would be way too high, way too high for
them to even think about spending at the levels they
spend during COVID. So he's basically an enabler of overspending
in the federal government because when the federal government says, wow,
we got this big situation, we got this COVID situation,
we need we need to do big swings. We need
lots of spending the federal reserves, like, well, let us

(01:08:16):
print some money for you. And that's why we had
inflation that we still had, or that we had and
are still dealing with the replication repercussions of it now.
So the whole thing is very incestuous but separate. You know,
they're not supposed to work together, but they totally do.
So I would strongly recommend Texter and everyone. Actually, if

(01:08:38):
you have not read The Creature from Jekyl Island, I
would highly recommend it. And it's long. I made the
mistake of mine a smaller paperback copy. The printing is
so small that I think now I probably could not
comfortably read it, and it's still like two inches thick
for a small paperback. But it's so worth it, and

(01:09:00):
it is so illuminating in terms of what the machinations
that kind of went into this, and the whole purpose
of the FED back then in nineteen twelve, nineteen thirteen
when all this happened was to prevent another recession. Well
what happened in the thirties when the FED existed. In
my mind, if there was any real justice in the world,

(01:09:20):
the FED would have been disbanded. Then just like, hey,
you guys, suck at your job. Look at us now,
worst depression in the history of the country under your watch.
But that's not how things work in government, Mandy, check
your history. Congress authorized the COVID checks, not the FED.
But if the FED hadn't been willing to print a

(01:09:40):
bunch of money, they wouldn't have had the money to
send out in the stimulus checks. It's all very incestuous,
all very incestuous. So think about it like this. The
FED is the drug dealer who keeps giving the drugs
to Congress, and Congress keeps hoover and the drugs right up.
It's really that's how it works. In we'll be right

(01:10:01):
back our of the show. I'm your host, Mandy Conald
and in this hour, I want to do something kind
of fun because today we are celebrating here at KOA.
We're officially celebrating our one hundredth anniversary. We've been on

(01:10:24):
the air for over one hundred years. That is amazing,
first of all, and I'm very very pleased to be
a part of this, but i wanted to ask you guys.
I thought it might be fun because I know we
have people because I meet people a lot to say
things like I've been listening to KOA since nineteen sixty one,
or I've been listening since my parents made me listen
in nineteen eighty five. I would love for you, guys

(01:10:46):
to text a little memory someone you loved, listening to
something you remember to the Common Spirit Health Checks Line
at five sixty six nine O, because I think it
would be kind of fun to hear your interesting stories
or a throwback to someone you used to listen to
on the radio.

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
I reached out to Dave Lower because it is our
hundredth birthday. You guys, Dave is just happily retired, just
happily retired, and he's like, nah, I'm good, Okay, okay, Dave,
you were here for a really long time. Mandy. Why
isn't the KOA Newsperson report Jason Crow was there on
Sunday when he knew they're low staffed on Sunday and

(01:11:26):
do not expect visitors.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
That's not what this particular news story is about. And
that's why I'm here to give you that kind of context.
That is exactly why I'm here to give you that
kind of context. Anyway, moving on five six, sixth nine,
aw you can text me those memories of Koa. And
I want to give one more shout out because something
happened today and it's almost it's just perfect that it

(01:11:50):
happened today, because it's yet another reminder of what a
great medium radio and especially talk radio is. And I'm
not taking anything away from music, but let's be real
with you, guys. We talked for three hours a day.
I mean I do. And so there's this weird, strange,
imbalanced but also awesome relationship between me and the listeners.

(01:12:12):
And as a matter of fact, when John, and that's
where I was getting with this John from Wyoming drop
by a bag of treats from BUCkies. Now, initially I
thought it was like cheese puffs and the beaver nuggets
and and you know, just stuff like that. But no,
he loaded me up because he wanted me to have
treats from when I'm recovering from surgery. If I eat

(01:12:34):
all of these treats, I will weigh nine hundred pounds
by the time I recover from this surgery. But the kindness,
the thoughtfulness, you just don't get that in other jobs.
You know, have you ever seen the movie Red Zack
with Bruce Willis Morgan. Yeah, So the whole premise of

(01:12:55):
that is they are retired and extremely dangerous agents for
the US government. And it starts with Bruce Willis on
the phone with what is her name, Mary, Mary something something?
It's three names, Mary, dang it in any case, and
she is on the other end of the phone line
and he falls in love with her just from these
phone calls that he makes about his check not arriving

(01:13:17):
or whatever. And I thought to myself, like, what other
job do you have that you're basic? You guys are
my customers right in a way, Like where do you
have a job where a customer brings you a bag
full of goodies when you're having surgery. It's just it's
just as special. This medium is special. And I don't
care how many different ways there are to consume it.

(01:13:39):
I don't care if you're listening on the stream or
you listen tomorrow on the podcast on the Crystal Clear
Eyeart radio platform. I don't care how you consume it.
It's that relationship is still there. And what's funny is
John said to me. He goes, yeah, I text you,
and he gave me the last four digits of his
phone number, and I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah. Used
to be when I got a lot of em and

(01:14:00):
I occasionally get emails at Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com.
I could somebody would say, oh, I'm so and so
at you know, hotmeal dot com, and oh, okay, I
recognize you from your email address. And now I'm like, oh,
tell me the last four digits of your number if
you're a regular Texter, because that's how I'm going to
recognize you, Mandy. I missed Mike Rosen. I think I'm

(01:14:23):
going to see Mike today and I'll ask him if
he wants to stop by. Obviously not tomorrow or next
week because I'm gonna be off having surgery recovering for surgery,
but I'll see if Mike wants to come in and
visit and say hello, Mandy. Steve Kelly was the best.
Here's a fun fact about Steve Kelly, former hosts of
Colorado's morning News. Literally one of the nicest people you

(01:14:45):
ever meet in your life. Too. Although I will say this,
I don't think I'm thinking about who's been on this
station since I've been here. We haven't had a jerk
since I've been here, and in every radio group there's
a a few jerks, right, but no, I mean here,
Oh I missed mister hold button. That was Mike's bread

(01:15:07):
and butter, mister hold button when you put people on
hold so we could get a word in and then
allow them to stew for a moment while he said
what he was gonna say. Good luck with surgery tomorrow, Mandy.
Now that I've got the correct week, I'm also having
surgery tomorrow, but not nearly as serious as yours, just
some hand surgery. I don't I don't think that there's

(01:15:28):
I mean, unless you're awake for the surgery, Like anytime
they're putting you to sleep, and I am. If you
haven't heard, I'm having a hysterect to me tomorrow, so
I'm gonna be out next week. Anytime you get put
to sleep, there's always that hey, are you going to
actually wake me back up? That's the concerning part, Mandy.
I'd listened to KOA in Central Kansas almost my entire life.
Years ago, when I had problems sleeping, I would listen

(01:15:50):
to Rick Barber overnight. KOA comes in like a local
station in Central Kansas. Yes, it does because there is
nothing to interrupt our signal go into the east. Mandy,
I remember the murder of Alan Berg. That was shocking.
As a matter of fact, somebody just did a really

(01:16:10):
good podcast on it, and the name will come to
me in just a moment. I've listened to it because
I know a bunch of people that were interviewed for
it that it was very, very good. I will get
the name of that and share it with you guys,
so you can check it out as well. Mandy, I
started listening to in two thousand to rush. I still
can't believe Liberal Ross is in his spot now. I

(01:16:35):
don't know. I haven't saved on my phone though, so
I mean I listened to it on my phone, so
I should be able to find it. Might be live wire. No,
I'll figure it out. Mandy. Used to listen to Evan
Slack give the farm market reports in the fifties and sixties.
Since you are the king of agriculture, you should do
with throwback reports. Here's a fun fact about me. When
I worked in radio in a very small town in Florida,

(01:16:56):
I did the farm report. We did hogs, futures, tobacco prices,
We did pine. Pine is huge export in Florida, so
we talked about pine and then corn. That was our
big farm report was those four things. Mandy, does it
state in the actual law or order that you cannot
visit the ice facility on Sundays? No, it does not.

(01:17:17):
In the law it says Congress can visit unannounced. Boom,
there you go. Used to listen to Andrea Steenhouse. I
don't know who that is, Mandy. I miss Mike Rosan.
How about having him fill in for you while you're gone.
I do not set that up, and I will pass
that suggestion up to those who do. Hey, Mandy, I
used to listen to Mike Rosen way back twenty nine
years ago. When I was listening to him, I put

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my daughter on a wait list for charter schools because
there was no way I was going to put her
in the traditional public school. Because of his show. I
looked into the local public schools reading math proficiency was
appalled at their numbers. Thank you to Mike Rosen and
koa Mandy. I miss Paul Harvey with the news and
then the rest of the story. Paul Harvey was one
of a kind. I will be back with more of

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these because they are coming in fast and furious. Well,
we got to take a quick time out. We'll be
right back. Actually, okay, we actually turned one hundred in December,
but it was too close to the holidays, so we're
doing our big hundredth anniversary celebration today. Let me see here,

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let me go up to it. I asked for memories
of koa as we celebrate, and you guys are delivering. Mandy.
I used to listen to Mic Rosen way back when
twenty nine. Oh wait, I just read that one, Mandy.
I remember koa Q, the underground FM rock station. I
do not Bob Barker, Alan Berg, Bob Martin, Pete Wiener,

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Larry Zimmer, Lots of fond memories, says this Texter Manday.
I used to listen to Rick Barber and all the
weirdness of people up in the middle of the night
while I was working third shift. Mary Louis, He's Parker,
That's who was in Reds. Very good. She was good
on that. Mandy loves Steve Kellyan again. Super nice man, Mandy.
Thanks to Kaowa for saving me back in nineteen eighty four.

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I was a stupid liberal drinking from the slanted hose
at CSU. I started listening to Mike Rose and he
made so much sense in his arguments. I've been a
conservative ever since. There you go, Mandy. I loved the
sports too with Dave Logan and Scott Hastings. Really miss
hearing Rick barber Man would kill me with his Sam's
Number three commercials. When he was finished, I was so
freaking hungry. That's the whole point. A great commercial should

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make you want whatever we're selling you, Mandy. One of
the things that really got me listening to KOWA was
listening to Paul Harvey, and the stores he had were awesome.
Now for the rest of the story, I really liked
listening to your show as well. Lol. Mandy heard Wayne
Hagen was a real jerk. I don't know. I don't know, Wayne.
I'm scared to know what you think were Oh no,

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that's a phone number, person, Mandy. I used to work
midnight shift and I missed the Overnight with Rick barber
Overnight radio is just a different creature altogether, and it's
magical in a weird, quirky, strange only the weirdos come
out at night kind of way. My first real job
was working as a producer on the midnight to six

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shift on a hot talk station in Florida, And when
the bars emptied out, everybody came and was on our show.
It's fantastic. Now, our incredible production director Alan Jackson put
together a little montage of memories from KOA and we're
gonna play it right now. We're just gonna go right
to commercial. We'll be back. I have more of this

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when we get back. Plus I've got a bunch of
stuff on the bog. We're gonna rip through the last
half hour super fast. Keep it right here. Here are
some memories from KOA.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
Koa's first days in broadcasting. That was it. That is
the way KOA went on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
The air, I believe took on the app.

Speaker 7 (01:21:04):
They all come from the KOA News roll Waken.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
Run byrd Wine Goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
Police have identified the victeen Panz.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Allenberg, KOA, Denver, Am and.

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
F Roco sent both receivers to the left shot Stock
Ellenberg got KOA new Stock.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Anybody offense.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
By day nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
April twentieth, nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
It's Kelly in company. Kelly here this afternoon, It's the zoo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Now this is micros here's my point. Three are disagree, Gaye,
They're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Win this thing.

Speaker 7 (01:21:45):
On the fifteen thousand one Voice of the West, the
Broncos have.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Ben k ninety years one years of news.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
KO twenty four hour is your talk to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
You events.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
Away memories, Hello Americans, Paul hired me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Resident Kennedy has been shot. Breaking news and that's our
top story.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Here's doctor Ruth.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Want a pleasure to talk with your world.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
I'll bring it out.

Speaker 7 (01:22:30):
I've got like gooseblock breaking news here this morning, fine
high schooling weapons, the shambane Ramsey Casey.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Or at your shooting.

Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
I never that this could happen in here.

Speaker 6 (01:22:39):
Rise in COVID nineteen numbers, Marshall fire, I'm a state
first hitter.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Chess ands s come rest in East.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Derek Williams just poke that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:51):
Actually Boston, America October Sibity.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Tmtatic and scary era of flying.

Speaker 7 (01:22:55):
Subjections and they are world champions once again.

Speaker 6 (01:23:00):
School shooting, superst active shooting, prossassination of tornado mornings right there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Here's Dave Logan.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
I just walked Super Bowl fifties.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
That's one hundred years.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
It was certainly a big day in our history of Koway.

Speaker 6 (01:23:21):
I have great memories of this radio station.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
It made my arm here sans straight up. That was
so so good. I'm getting so many great memories. We're
celebrating our one hundredth birthday here at KOA, and you
guys are delivering. Way back when I was in grade
school in the fifties and sixties, my dad had Weatherman
Bowman and Pete Smith on or A Smith every day.
Mike Rosan and doctor Laura was who I always listened to.

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And now you and Ros's best of luck to you tomorrow.
I appreciate that. Mandy. I started listening to KOA and
Mike Rosen in nineteen ninety. He taught me everything I
needed to know about politics. I also listened to Andrea
van steinhause she was a local psychologist. Someone else clarified
that for me, Uh, Mandy. My earliest memories of KOA
were Evans Slack's Farm Report, Gary Tesler with Pete Wayner,

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Kenah Hamlin and all the rest. I loved Rosen's holiday shows,
Mandy Overnight, KOA comes in here in Colorado in Ohio,
what what? Mandy. I started listening to Mike Rosen in
early eighty nine at first, I didn't really agree with him,
but as I checked out his claims, I came to
discovery that he was right. That evolved into my family

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laughing at me when I started a sentence with I
was listening to Mandy the other day and like, you're
some close friend. You guys have no idea how many
times this has happened to me. I meet someone this
happened to the other and Chuck and I were out and
about and we were in Parker, downtown Parker on the
Saturday night, and I'm walking down the street and this
guy goes, Mandy, Yes, and he was like, Hi, I'm

(01:25:10):
just a listener, and he you know, we were chatting.
We chatted for a moment and his wife goes, eh,
you're Mandy. I did that so many times, like I've
had wives saying, oh, you're the secret girlfriend. He doesn't
actually know. Yes I am. I'm okay with it him.
Mandy Kaway Radio sort of saved me. You Ross Dave Rick,

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my husband passed away a while ago. I couldn't stand
to listen to music radio because all the songs reminded
me too much of my husband. I know, weird, not
weird at all all. Your voices seemed comforting, and I'd
like to think I got smarter every time I listened
to a show. Thanks for caring for your audience. And
we do, we really do. And I'm sorry about your loss.

(01:25:55):
But boy, am I glad that we could help in
any way, shape or form. Mandy. I'm a delivery driver
and started listening to KOA around twenty seventeen or twenty
eighteen when then Vice President Joe Biden came to Boulder
for one reason or another and a fellow driver told
me about the traffic and weather reports on KOA being
listening ever since, Oh, John Morrissey and the jet copter?

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Has there ever been a better traffic guy than John
Morrissey in the jet copter or without? I love that guy, Mandy.
In nineteen eighty seven, I was in high school, returning
from a church youth group retreat. We had the Broncos
playoff game against the Cleveland Browns on the radio. Whole
bus went nuts when we won. It was so memorable.

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See I love that. I love that We're a part
of that memory for you. Mandy. Born in nineteen sixty
one in rural Colorado. Life was waking up listening to
Koa coming from the kitchen. His mom made breakfast for
the seven of US News, Paul Harvey and all the rest.
It was life, many many favorite moments in recent years.
One of my favorites is you Mandy asked who Pete

(01:27:00):
and his wheedies? Uh huh, I was drinking water and
I'm a spit at my mom's face. Also, of course
the Broncos games with Zimmer and Crew, and of course
Mike Rosen. Thanks for picking up the standard from him
and carrying it on spectacularly. Happy one hundredth birthday, by
the way, Still miss Susan Wicken. Please say hi for me.
I sure will. She is doing just phenomenally well in retirement.

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She is loving life and I still talk to her
fairly often, so I will share that with her. I
want to share an email from a young man named Jeremy.
Jeremy is a big fan of the station and I've
met him. Dear Mandy, this is your loyal listener and fan,
Jeremy Levy. We met at one of the King Supers
events here that you were broadcasting from a couple of

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years ago. We also did an interview for my blog. Unfortunately,
my recorder only got a couple of minutes of it,
and I wasn't able to get that one published. I've
been a loyal listener of yours ever since you came
to six thirty k HOW radio and then you moved
to eight fifty KOA radio. I've been a listener to
eight fifty koa radio ever since I was thirteen or five,
fourteen years old, which was back in the early two thousands.

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And then he wishes me well for my surgery and
reminds me that I can listen to his podcast at
Jeremy's JOURNEYLLC dot com and Jeremy, I would love to
do a makeup on that interview. It's been something in
the back of my head that I keep forgetting to
reach out on. So I will, uh, let's make that happen. Jeremy,
because I know he's a big, big, big fan. Let

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me do this very very quickly and then do a
few more and then we'll wrap up the show. Mandy,
thank you for keeping me company while I bake in
my kitchen. Frequently if you want cookies, just say the word.
All the best to you during recovery Marie and Arvada,
and unfortunately for my waistline. I know that Marie makes
amazing cookies. Mandy. Do you have a picnic at in

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Parker by the KOA Tower? On occasion, I do walk
by it because the Cherry Cree Trail does go by it, Mandy.
I listened to Bob Martin and Larry Zimmer as a
kid in the sixties. He broadcast every sport in the city.
He was one of the classiest announcers ever. Most vivid
KOA memory is sitting in my dad's car on a
hot summer afternoon. He never sprang for ac while they

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dragged me around for errands, and I still feel sweaty
when I hear Rush Limbaugh's voice. You know, my dad
used to make me listen to Rush Limbaugh. Not on
KOA because we were on the East coast. But I
if you ever think if you have kids and you're
trying to instill good values in them, and especially when
they're teenagers and you're trying to have an important conversation

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with them about something and you think they're not listening,
they are listening. They may not be hearing right now,
but they're listening and it sticks in their brain. And
I think now, because man, I used to hate that
my dad would put on Rush Limbad. I was like, oh,
I just wanted to listen to music, even though all
he ever listened to was like easy listening. That was
better than Rush Limbaugh. But I realize now, as I've

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gotten older and my thinking has gotten clearer, that man
did a lot of that stuff stick. A lot of
it sticks. Mandy, good luck on your procedure tomorrow. Be
thinking about you and speak d recovery year old radical
left seventy one year old fan in Strasburg. I appreciate you,
sir or madam Mandy. I'm a listener in Ohio and
the eight to fifty AM in Cleveland's powers down at

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night to protect KOA. Of course they do, because we
are what's known as a clear channel station. Did you
know this act? Do you know about the not the company?
Do you know what a clear channel station is? I
don't believe this. This is cool radio stuff. This is
really really cool, and this is why AM radio matters
and why AM radio needs to be protected. Across the country.

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There are a series of AM towers. Ours is one
of them that broadcast at fifty thousand watts right. Most
AM stations are much lower wattage than that. Because we're
at fifty thousand watts, our signal goes forever, especially to
the east obviously hit the Rocky Mountains on the west,
and it doesn't go as far. But we are part
of a network of Big six that cover the entire country.

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So if there is an emergency, there are a series
of giant AM stations. We are one of them that
will always be able to cover everything in the country
on the AM dial. Because of the way the amban works,
AM and FM two totally different kinds of frequencies and
they operate in completely different manners. That's why FM doesn't
travel as far, but AM goes forever. Those stations are

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designated clear channel stations because if, as this Texter just said,
you have an eight p fifty AM in another market,
you are legally required to power down at night to
make way for our station. Isn't that cool? That's really
far out? I mean it's really I mean, it's all
like nerdy radio stuff, but it's just it is super cool.
So when people are trying to save AM radio, it

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really matters. This is why I will always have a
battery powered AM radio that I can turn on. I
have am Crane Radio. Thank you, Crane Company Radio. I
have several of them because that's what you want in
an emergency. And starting my radio career in Florida, there
were multiple times over my career in Florida where we

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were the only form of information that was available because
our tower was the only thing left standing. Right. None
of the cable you know, networks, they were all out,
so TV was out. Maybe there was a TV station
here or there that there was still going out over
the air, but our signal went forever. So during Hurricane Wilma,
we were the only game in town in terms of
getting information out. It's such a cool thing to be

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involved with. I mean, it really really is. That's just
a little nerdy thing for you there. Now there's a
thing you know now this texter said, I used to
listen to Alan Berg and I remember exactly what I
was doing when he was assassinated. Are you familiar with
the alan Berg story? Has it trickled down to you, Zach?

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Yeah? The movie they made about it last year's on
my list and I just haven't gotten around to the yet.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
There is an older movie starring who was in that?
Who was in that? There was a movie that was
loosely based on the situation, but it wasn't obviously it
was not a document entry. But that was crazy back then.
I mean that was really crazy. This texter said, Wow, Mandy,

(01:33:07):
that was a powerful trip down memory lane. I hope
Kaoa keeps playing it. When I was born fifty five
years ago to radio industry parents in Garden City, Kansas
at KBUF Alan roathwork there. If we weren't tuned into that,
we listened to KOA. It was, is and will always
be the fifty thousand wat blowtorch. Thanks KOA for being

(01:33:28):
a part of my life since the womb. Hey, Mandy
favor on your way out the door, can you take
that gremlin with you? We don't know what is happening
with theaters. You just bring Zack out when I've written
and nothing's going wrong right now back, everything's fine. There's
no gremlins. Here's just referencing yesterday's gremlin. Mandy. Kaoa did

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music before talk radio. I remember my mother was mad
that the format was changing. We also met Evan Slack
at a sporting event. He was a really nice man.
Was always both my parents' radio station of choice. Before
they're passing you know, back in the day when radio
first started, it was so incredible the way that it

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sort of grabbed on, like on the in the East Coast,
and I don't know about here on Kawa and I'm talking,
you know, one hundred years ago, but on the East
Coast it's how a lot of like actual country music
started because they needed somebody to come on and perform.
So they'd have these little family groups that would come
on and sing country music. Are they And then they'd

(01:34:35):
have a homemaker show where she would come on and
she'd give tips on how to keep your house properly
and recipes and things like that, and then they'd have
you know, news, and then they'd have a show about
you know, I don't know, comedy or whatever. So it
was just like this big variety show. And obviously as
there's more radio stations and we all kind of chose
our lane, there's less of that. But I've worked at

(01:34:58):
two radio stations that I would I wouldn to be
what we call in the industry kind of a full
service station, and that is a KOA is one of them.
We have Colorado's Morning News in the morning, we have
Ross and Me in the middays, and we've got sports
in the afternoon and evening. We kind of cover all bases,
like there's something for everyone here. Right. There's only one
other station that I know of that still does that,

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and that's WHAS, my old station in Kentucky in Louisville.
They're very much and WHAS is the Koa of Kentucky.
I mean, everybody knows that. Everybody grew up with it.
It's just it's just such a cool thing. Mandy. I
went to school with Rosen's girls in Parkers, so I
started to listen to them because I kind of had
a crush on Jill that we'll take it. We don't care, Mandy.

(01:35:42):
We didn't get the montage on the iHeartRadio app. What what? Well,
that's crazy. I don't even know how the oh you
know what, did we trigger a break? Oh? Shoot, dag
nab it? Okay, Well, yeah, we'll play it during I mean, heck,
we could play it on the way out. Yeah, you know,

(01:36:03):
we'll do that. We'll play it on the way out
one more time. Why not? I mean, why not? My
most vivid let me do that. I listened to Bob
Martin and Larry Zimmer as a kid in the sixties.
Oh I already read that one. I've turned it so
it doesn't update as quickly so I can read as
many of these. Lou from Littleton always said blow torch, blowdorch,

(01:36:24):
Eric Magozi and talk radio. That's it, Thank you, thank you.
Ummm so the crank the Sea Crane radio is actually good.
I love George Norri, but I didn't believe in the
radio because he was voting it. You guys, the Sea
Crane Radio Company is rock solid and they have like
the battery operated one. They have one that's battery operated

(01:36:46):
but also has a hand crank, so if your batteries
run out, you can just crank it and it goes
for I don't know, like forty five minutes to an
hour on one series of cranks. They make great products
and they're not like cheap. They have weight to them,
you know what I mean. I have a speaker, you know,
the wireless speaker or whatever. I kid you not, it

(01:37:06):
weighs like six ounces. Always nothing. These little Sea Crane
radio is weigh like a pound and a half because
they're built with real parts. Rob Dulson, do you own
a Sea Crane radio?

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
No, I don't. You should that's the thing that's in
that office down there for the part. Wait, what is
this No, I'm just talking about why you know, I
was explaining about the whole concept of clear channel radio
stations and all of that. How I am is very important.
It is very important. And I have an AM radio
and it's a Sea Crane Radio. Seacrane is the name
of the company. Okay, I thought that that was a
big nineteen thirty thing. That's downstairs that's playing KOA right now. Oh,

(01:37:41):
I love that. That's so cool. We'll playing big band
music of what KA used to play. Oh, that's super cool.
It's super so And by the way, none of us
who work here now actually worked here when KOA started. Fatfully,
it sort of feels like it, but it's not really. Okay, Rob,
we're gonna start early because we want to play that
montage one more time. That good and our freamers did

(01:38:05):
not get it because we put it in part of
a commercial break and it did not work.