10-01-25 FULL SHOW - Weather Wednesday And Denver Bought A Mall

Weather Wednesday, Denver is buying a mall, and when does DPS have enough money? 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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No, it's Mandy Connell and Conall.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
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Speaker 4 (00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome Local, Welcome to a Wednesday edition of the show.
I'm your host for the next three hours. Mandy coom.
That guy over there in a Jack lantern sweatshirt, that's
Anthony Rodriguez, you can call him a rod And together
we will take you right through the afternoon up until
three o'clock when KO Sports will take over. And in
the meantime we have lots and lots and lots of

(00:48):
stuff to talk about. Anthony. Do we have a breaking
news sounder that you could just randomly hit, even though
it's not actually Monday news. Everybody breaking news. The federal
government has shut down. Oh MG, disaster panic in the streets.
We don't know what to do. We do know what

(01:09):
to do. We just wait until the politicians stop posturing
and go ahead and go back to work. Government shutdowns
have become like, I don't know, no big deal. You
know why, because all those times they told us the
government's gonna shut down, this is gonna be a disaster.
What are we gonna do? Unlike when President Obama was
President of the United States, President Trump has not maliciously

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closed national monuments. That hasn't happened yet. Remember when they
put all the like the yellow construction tape or whatever
around the World War Two Memorial in Washington, DC, which
is outside and requires no staffing whatsoever. Remember that this
government shutdown is being run a little bit differently, and

(01:54):
the Democrats own this one. This is the Schumer shutdown
one hundred percent. And Chuck Schumer's in a difficult position
right now because he's facing a challenge to his supremacy,
and not only in New York but overall. There is
a generational battle happening right now on the left that
recently happened on the right. We recently had to get

(02:14):
rid of Mitch McConnell. They're trying to get rid of
Chuck Schumer. And I don't think that's a bad thing.
And it doesn't have anything to do with Mitch McConnell
or Chuck Schumer. Not a fan of either, But whatever
here we are. I think that people and how could
I say this without making it sound like I'm sending
them off? In the great beyond. I think people making

(02:35):
decisions for us in the United States of America should
be around to see the consequences of those decisions. I mean,
there's no other way to say that. But as for
this particular government shutdown, do not panic, do not freak out.
My prediction is that somehow the Democrats will find a
way to capitulate, because the Republicans are actually showing a

(02:56):
spine on this. They're showing a spine because after managing
to wrestle through the big beautiful bill, which by the way,
still contained a crapload of biden EARA spending, a crap
load of biden EARRA priorities because it's a continuing resolution,
they didn't rebudget anything. God forbid we return to regular order.

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So the shutdown is about putting more of that spending
back in the bill. And one of the things that
I want you to know about that is the cuts,
specifically to things like Obamacare subsidies and Medicaid. Those cuts
take us back to pre COVID numbers, meaning pre COVID,

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these people were not eligible for these programs, and COVID
was used in it as an excuse by Democrats to
put more people on the government doal because they want
they want single payer health care, and the best way
to do that is pay everybody's premiums for Obamacare or
expand Medicaid so everybody's on it, right, that's the sneaky

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way of doing this. Do not fall for this, do
not capitulate, do not do not at all work to
give the Democrats what they want. When they were in power,
we were told over and over again we got a
mandate shut up and sit down. So just give the
same to them. Just don't even don't even take their calls.
That's how I feel about this. This is the stupidest

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waste of time yet again, because we have people in
Congress that can't do their jobs in a timely fashion.
And Speaker Mike Johnson, I'm looking at you. This is
the guy who told us we were gonna go back
to regular order. Do you know he's been oddly quiet
on this shutdown, Congressman Thomas Maski. As a matter of fact,
hang on, let me pull him, let me pull up

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his Twitter feed right now. And maybe he's being quiet
because he's totally right. He knew this was gonna happen again.
He said it six months ago, multiple places. And oh,
here's from today, twenty hours ago. This is Thomas Massy.
Congressman Thomas Massing, the only congressman who tells the about
this kind of stuff. At this point, both parties are ridiculous.

(05:03):
He says. Republicans passed a line by line continuation of
Biden's last budget, including DOGE identified waste, but Democrats refuse
to vote for Biden's last budget, thereby shutting down the government.
I voted nay when it was for Biden, and I'm
in nay now. So there you go. He's right, by

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the way, he's completely right. So let me tell you
what's on the blog and where to find it. It's
very easy to find mandy'sblog dot com. That's Mandy's blog
dot com. Look for the headline that says ten to
one twenty five blog. Can you guys believe it's October already?
Are you and Jocelyn decorating this weekend for your party?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
You know it?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah? Anthony's Halloween decorations are a multi weekend process, right,
I'm sorry, just weekends? That's cute? Oh oh sorry, do
you need to demean your process? There? At the at
the eight Rod House.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Something will be contributed every single day from now until Halloween.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I just don't have that kind of energy anymore. And
when we moved into our house. The first year we
were in our house in our neighborhood, I did the
whole fall decorps outside. I had pumpkins, I had hey,
I had the whole and the damn deer ate all
of it, literally ate it all. I thought it was kids.
Came out the next day, the pumpkins are all busted up,
and I'm like, what what neighborhood did I move into?

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Then I looked down and there's like teeth marks on
the pumpkins, and I realized it's the damn deer.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
The deer.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
They're deer, not damn deer all the time. When they're
just being cute, they're just deer. But when they eat stuff,
they're damn deer. Please bear with.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Me on that.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Go to the blog ten one blog Weather Wednesday and
Denver bottom Mall. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within Office half of American, all
with ships and clippers, and say that's going to press
plant today on the Blood Fox thirty one's Dave Frasier
at twelve thirty Rockies GM Bill Schmidt is out. I
spoke to a great today. Denver is in the mall

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business now the federal government shutdown is underway. What federal
government functions will go on? Denver Public schools is gonna
want more money. Decentralizing the agg department is great for Colorado.
When did hooligans start watching golf? Pay attention to school
board races? What is the real purpose of dosing ice agents?

(07:22):
Where does your paycheck go? The furthest is hunter s
Thompson's death. What it seems? This literally made my stomach hurt.
This is an illuminating look at the mind of a voter.
I agree with Jake Tapper on this. Mister beast goes
beast mode. Don't threaten me with a good time joy read.
Shouldn't we be trying to help this population the most?

(07:43):
It's time to embrace the zipper Merge, Army, Navy, and
Air Force all hit their recruiting goals. Arab nations, pressure
amass aliens may be coming to kill us. Beware veneers
for your teeth, happy trails. Pat Woodard possible solution to
the NFL tie problem, Nugget Forever. Those are the headlines.

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On the blog at mandy'sblog dot com tech tow a winner.
Thanks Nancy. I felt it was good too, got it
in plenty of time. So let me tell you about
my morning just for a moment here. So this morning
I was invited to speak at the South Metro Republican
Club breakfast. They do a breakfast once a month, really

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great group of people, and so I go in there
and Heidiganal is kind of the I don't know what
her actual position is there, but she's kind of the
EMC of the event. And Heidi asked me some questions
and then I just kind of riffed about what I
was thinking about the state of Republican politics in Colorado,
want a bunch of other things, and it was just
really it was a good time and it was really
nice people, and there were some fireworks in the meeting

(08:46):
this morning because I was very critical of the group
of people in the Republican Party who persist in doing
two things. Number one, they keep passing judgment on who's Republican.
Y enough's number one they do. And thing number two,
they are hell bent on opting out of the primaries
here in Colorado. And first of all, I want to

(09:09):
start with that primary question one more time. I need
you guys to understand something, and this is really really important.
Number one, I believe that a political party should be
able to choose their own candidates. Now, as an unaffiliated voter,
I'm like, yeah, I love voting in primaries like that,
but it's a private organization. That being said, if the

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state pays for the primaries, I do think that you
open yourself up to be in the situation that we're
in now, which is independents can vote in the primary
of their choice. They can vote in the Republican primary,
they can vote in the Democratic primary. You may not
like it. And there is a lawsuit challenging this entire
situation right now, so that will be decided in the

(09:54):
courts at some point. We will figure out the law
of the legality of law at some point. Right now,
these are the rules of the game right now, Independents
who make up a majority of the votership in Colorado
can vote in whichever primary they want to vote in.

(10:15):
So instead of trying to tell the largest group of
voters in the state that they need to sit down
and shut up, you probably need to figure out a
better way on how to engage more Republicans in the
primary process. I looked it up this morning. As a
matter of fact, you guys, just to let you know,
I've officially hired chat Gpt as my research assistant. Holy

(10:38):
Cows has made my day is so much easier. So
I asked my assistant to find out what percentage of
Republicans participated in the last primary, and it was a
little over thirty percent based on the Secretary of State's numbers.
I always check my assistants work. I mean, it's so
hard to get good help these days. So I checked
my assistant's work. But according to the Secretary of State's office,
about thirty percent of Republicans turned out for the primary.

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If the Republican already would stop infighting and start working
on a plan to make sure that the other sixties
so you know, percent of people that are registered Republicans
actually participate in the primary, it won't matter that one
hundred and fifty thousand independents vote in the primary. It
won't matter. But instead instead of doing that, which makes

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a perfect amount of sense, playing by the rules that
we have right now, they are trying to opt out
of the primary. What opting out of the primary doesn't
look like is. It doesn't mean that the Republican Party
gets to have their own private, little primary. No, it
means that the general election candidates will be chosen through

(11:39):
the state Assembly process by a very very small group
of Republicans. I mean hundreds out of the nine hundred
and something thousand and guys gals. I don't know if
you realize this, but that's exactly what the Democrats did
in the last presidential election cycle when they push Joe
Biden out and then just nominated Kamala Harris without a

(12:02):
single vote, just nominated her. What I find remarkable is
that none of the news media, who were more than
happy to give every Republican a kolonoscopy whenever they do anything,
not one single news media outlet is bothered to say
who made that decision, who decided to elevate Kamala Harris,

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Who was in that room, who made that choice, How
was that decision? It was just made right. That's what
the Republican primary will be. And I'm just going to
say it. The candidates that have come out of the
Assembly process in the last I don't know two election
cycles have not even been able to win the primary
that's how unelectable they are at the state level, because

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guess what, there is not remotely enough Republicans registered in
the state of Colorado to carry a Republican over the
finish line. They're not even close. And for everybody who
says we got more Republicans registered, do you realize that
as a percentage of voters, we now have fewer Republicans
than we did percentage wise a few years ago. I mean,

(13:11):
come on, you guys, stop the infighting. Stop. And one
of the members that was there got very salty with
me about the fact that I use that kind of
US versus them language, But when somebody files a lawsuit,
that is us versus them, plaintiff versus defendant, and that's
where the Republican Party is now. A gentleman after the

(13:31):
event came up to me and said, Mandy, I could
solve this whole thing. Have the current leadership of the
Colorado Republican Party send that last vote to opt out
of the primaries to the Secretary of State's office so
she can tell them it did not meet the statuary
statutory requirements. Because it didn't you have to have seventy
five percent of the entire state Central Committee vote to

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opt out of the primaries. That is not a bar
that has ever been met, not ever. And no one,
even the people who voted for it in the first meeting,
would sit here and tell tell you that seventy five
percent of the Central Committee voted that way, because they didn't,
it would be a lie. This is all such inside baseball,
and it's so stupid. It's just so incredibly stupid. It's

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a waste of resources, it's a waste of energy, and
I don't know how to fix it. I really don't.
So you know, we have that group of Republicans that
are sitting over in the little their little judgment zone
deciding who's a good Republican and who's not trying to
run the entire party even though they are a minority,

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And it's just it's creating havoc. And this is terrible
because there's real opportunities in Colorado. And Heidi asked me
at one point, she said, look, we need something to
come together around. And the best thing that could happen
for Colorado, that could realistically happen, is that we restore
some balance to the House and the Senate here in Colorado.

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And it's not a sexy goal. It's not an exciting goal,
but single the party rule is I'm telling you right now,
it is destroying Colorado. We've seen our business climate decline,
We've seen our crime skyrocket, We've seen our roads and
bridges degrade. We've seen basically Republicans be told to sit
down and shut up while Democrats find new ways to

(15:17):
raise taxes instead of cut spending. We just saw that
in the special session. We just went through that. So
we have real opportunities where we say, look, you know what,
We've just got to focus on the House and the
Senate and bring some balance back to the legislature. It
would be fantastic if we got a Republican governor. But guys,
as much as I love some of the candidates that
are lining up, it is going to be a herculean

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task to get them over the finish line in a
state where Republicans are only what twenty three percent and
unaffiliated to break sixty to forty for the Democrats, that
is the reality. Unaffiliates break sixty to forty. So how
are you going to get a Democratic governor? You stand
a much better chance of bringing some balance to the
House and the Senate. And that's what Republicans need to

(16:01):
be focused on, period, just that nothing else should matter
except that. And yet that's not what we have. We
have chaos and infighting and blah blah blah, and it's
just ridiculous. But Mandon, I enjoy that conversation today. It
was good, it was spirited. I actually am suggesting like
a cage match situation, a fundraiser where we have a

(16:25):
cage match, where we bring in representatives from both sides
of the issue and we just verbally duke it out.
I'm not actually interested in a physical fight because I
don't feel like I would do well in a physical fight.
I mean, maybe I would, I don't know. I've never
been in a physical fight. I've never tested my metal.
But we've got to sort it out, and it has

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to be sorted out for not just the good of
the Republican Party, but for the good of Colorado. There
are so many Republicans with great ideas. There really are
really solid, good ideas that can really help change the
sort of trajectory that we find ourselves on in Colorado,
which is a waning trajectory instead of you know, going

(17:08):
lights out where, which is where we should be going.
We live in this incredibly beautiful state. We know that
we have incredible natural resources here, both environmentally, both oil
and gas. I mean, we have so much going for us.
Why are we going backwards? Why are we sliding down
in all of these lists that we're seeing. Why is

(17:28):
that happening. It's happening because of bad government decisions, so
many bad government decisions. That's why it's happening. So we've
got to sort of write the ship. I love Colorado,
but I'm telling you right now, and I've told this
very openly to many many people, Colorado does not feel
like a place I can retire to on a fixed

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income because as expensive as everything is now, there's literally
no move to make anything less expensive. Case in point,
our health insurance premiums are going to rise again. You
know why because our legislature, in its infinite wisdom, decided
to say that now any kind of plastic surgery that

(18:14):
a trans person wants to make them feel more like
the gender they are trying to be has to be
covered by insurance. Now I'm actually thinking, and I was
thinking about I've been thinking about it for a while.
I'm thinking about suing because as of fifty six year
old women. There are certain parts of my body that well,
they're not where they were when I was a younger woman,

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and it makes me feel less feminine. And if we're
giving out plastic surgery to people to make them feel
more feminine or more masculine, then why can't I have
plastic surgery to make me more feminine? Now, of course
I would merely sue to make a point, but I
need a lawyer who would do this pro bono just
to be aggravating, which is really why I'm doing it.
I mean, if I'm honest. Coming up on the show today,

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we've got weather Wednesday coming up in the next segment,
So get your weather questions ready for Fox thirty one's
Dave Frasier. Although with today's weather, it's like, what are
we even gonna talk about? Because it's glorious outside? And
then at one o'clock we're gonna check in with Voice
of the Rockies Jack Corgan.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I am.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I have nothing against former Rockies general manager Bill Schmidt.
I've never met the man. I'm sure he's lovely, but
he has done a rotten job as general manager. He
should have been fired long ago. I'm happy to see
him go. I don't think he was fired. I think
he resigned. But of course you know when the writing's
on the wall. So we're gonna talk to Jack about
that at one and then the rest of the show

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is all kinds of gobbledygooks, so I don't miss any
of it. It's all coming up. After this, we check
in with the best dang meteorologists out there. He's Dave Frasier.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Hi, Dave, Hey, good afternoon on a beautiful October.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
First, I was gonna say, I have absolutely no complaints
about today, So well done. What whatever you know ingredients
you had to put in your witches brew there to
draw up this weather. You keep up the good work.
But how how much longer are we going to be getting?
I mean I think today are we going to hit
eighty today?

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Yeah, that's our forecast.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I is eighty.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
We're warming about two to three degrees above where we
were yesterday at this time, so that should put us
on track for eighty. Yesterday we hit seventy seven for
the last day of September, and so a couple of
degrees of warming should get us right there. And the average,
just so everybody knows, is about seventy two, so that
is above average, but it's not record setting. The records
arend ninety today and then upper eighties for the next

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few days.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So it's going to say it's going to be upper
eighties the next few days. When are we going to
start to see that lovely fall weather return?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Come Saturday.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Come the weekend, we'll start to get a little bit
of a cool down. There'll be a storm system coming
in from the Pacific.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Northwest, the bulk of which looks to go north.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Of Colorado, but a weak, trailing cold front on the
southern fringe of it should come across the north Central
Mountains and clip northeast Colorado. So I have shower chances
in Saturday late afternoon, early evening and again later in
the day on Sunday. It's not a high chance, thirty
percent chance, and I really think it's Denver North that

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sees it because of the position of the storm to
the north of us. But a week old front should
get us into the mid seventies on Saturday, and then
following that will be in the mid sixties on Sunday,
and then the rest of next week does look to
stay in the sixties, about sixty five sixty.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Every day and a little unsettled. And by that, well,
what I mean is there's just going to be these
storms kind of passing.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
By to the north, and I think just close enough
by that we're going to keep up a ten percent
cya chance for a few showers in the forecast each
afternoon as some of that moisture works its way over
the mountains and could creep down into Denver. Nothing widespread,
nothing big, but just a little unsettled and certainly a
little more like fall for next week.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I have been kind of surprised as I go to
let my dog out first thing in the morning and
I'm like, oh my gosh, it rained last night. Like
we've been getting rain overnight, which I don't recall in
my vaster teen years as being a regular thing. So
I'm telling you this summer has been different than any
other summer I remember here.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
Yeah, I just think it's been the right mix, and
while it may not be a traditional summer, I just
think that overall it's been pretty good. You know, we
expect certain types of weather when it comes to stormy skies,
the hail season and the flooding rains and the monsoons.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
We expect that from time to time, and I just
think that it's just been enough sampling.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
Of everything that the mix has just been fantastic forentse
In September, I cunched the numbers last night, and some
people may remember, you know, well, it was warm early
in the month. The longest temperature we had in September
was ninety degrees I think it was back on the
tenth right, and the average came out actually one tenth.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Of a degree below. Yeah, wow, September.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
So an average September is like sixty four point eight,
and we ended up at sixty four point seven. So
temperature wise, there was a balance as you look at
the monthly calendar between some above normal temperatures and a
series of below normal temperatures that everything weighed.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
Out to be just about average for this time, and
we did well.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
For moisture because of those overnight showers. We ended up
about the four tenths of an inch ahead, and of
course August was great for us from moisture. So yeah,
I think the balance has been fantastic.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I got a couple questions from our Common Spirit Health
text line, ask weatherman Fraser that seems to be very
I mean Chief Meteorologist Fraser Texture. Ask weatherman Fraser, why
does the temperature drop when the sun rises?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
So what happens is your lowest temperature in the morning
generally occurs just a little after sunrise. So what happens
is the sun comes up and for a brief period,
that sunrise heats the atmosphere and kind of turns it,
turns it a little bit, and colder air always sinks
to the bottom. So think of a murky kind of

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sandy glass of water and you spin it and it's
all mixed together. When that goes calm, the coldest air
kind of drop to the bottom, or the sand settles
on the bottom the sediment. Same thing happens in the atmosphere.
The coldest air is going to calm as things kind
of are settled. There's just enough turnover in the morning
briefly as the sun comes up before the warming effect

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kicks in that that colder air sinks to the ground.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Okay, that makes sense, But a follow up question that
would be what causes that turbulence? What causes that churn?
Is it the sun rising? Is the what makes that
happen in the first place.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, if you think about the overnights as being calm
and stable. Yeah, and you don't have the heating of
the sun, you don't have that kind of rising motion
and kind of that mixing of the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
And so forth and so on.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Then sometimes, you know, you can get that little bit
of a turnover. Same thing happens like when we're dealing
with wind. So sometimes at night we have this we
have this roaring wind coming off the foothills and it's
kind of cold overnight, and the cooler stable air is
forced the wind down the foothills and blowing it out,
and then the sun rises and the air rises, and
it kind of lifts that stronger wind away from us

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on the ground and lifts it overhead. So again the
atmosphere is very buoyant. That buoyancy, just much like an
ocean can make a difference. I mean in the ocean,
you know, the same thing is happening. The cold air
is sinking down.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
By the way, did you know.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
What the coldest air I think I've told you this before.
The coldest temperature for sinking air. No, do you have
a thirty nine degrees?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
What?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
What?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (25:32):
Think about that?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right?

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Doesn't make sense? But what happens what happens is you
pass thirty nine and you approach thirty two, Well.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
I guess it's cue.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, it freezes and it flows to the top.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
This coldest ocean air is closer to thirty nine degrees
causing it to sink as opposed to getting closer to
freezing when it will turn into cubes and rise.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, isn't that nerdy and interesting? One more question before
we let you go, and that is just how much
more difficult is forecasting weather here than other cities? Or
is that just a myths?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
No, it's not a mys I remember.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
More than twenty five years ago when I was leaving
Cincinnati to come out here.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I worked in the Midwest.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
There are certain things in the Midwest where you can
literally do persistent forecasting, where you can look out the
window and say, it's doing this one hundred miles away,
it's going to do this in about three hours.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
It's not that simplistic.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Every part of the country has its nuances when it
comes to forecasting challenges. Right about the Great Lakes and
lake effects. Now you think about, you know, sea breezes
in the Southeast.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
And Florida and the challenges that come with those wind.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Lines and shifts and everything like that. But I remember
when I was leaving to come here, one of my
good friends in Cincinnati said, you have any idea what
you get yourself into.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Moving perspect to Denver, Colorado. He says, good luck to you,
And I literally had to go and dig out some.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
College books and kind of refresh mountain meteorology. And it
has to do with everything we talk about here on
Weather Wednesdays. It has to do with our variant topography.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
And wind is king.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
I say that to when we're interviewing candidates. I said,
you're going to study wind like you've never studied win before.
When speeds, when direction lifting, wind falling, win upslope, down slope,
direction of the wind, jet streams, so forth. So the
wind is what drives it, and the monoliths of the
mountains get in the way of that. And you have
to understand as that wind flows up, over, down, through

(27:25):
and around, it changes our weather. And so that's why
we have when you see snowfall forecast. The variation is
all driven on what we call topographical features, the mountains,
the hills, the Palmer divide, everything plays into that well.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Dave Frasier, Informative as always that I have one more question.
Maybe we'll get to it in the next Well, maybe
you can answer a yes or no. Can you ask
why some of our records date back to before we
had SUVs? Well, I'm not quite sure why they. I mean,
how far do our records go back? Reliable records here.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
In the do you know?

Speaker 6 (28:01):
I mean we've had our records go back to the
late eighteen hundreds. Oh wow, Ray started being kept. And
again we've talked about this before. Records have been kept
at four different sites in Denver to downtown, one at Stapleton,
finally moved out in the nineties to Denver International. So
that's our history of records in Denver eighteen hundreds, late
eighteen hundreds to now.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
All right, that is Fox thirty one chief Meteorologists. You
can watch him and the rest of their amazing team
over at Fox thirty one on Fox thirty one, and
we'll talk to you next week, my friend.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Enjoy the next couple of days and the fall feeling
next week.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Amen to that. We will be back right after this
a big shout out. I don't know if Chad the
truck driver's listening. So this morning, when I came out
of the wonderful breakfast at South Metro. I also have
to give a big shout out to Maggiano's. They do
these breakfasts like you book ahead and you know you
can take your group there. Great job, really nice job
at Maggiano's. But I come out of Maggiano's after the

(28:58):
event is over and Chad truck driver is unloading stuff
and he said, hey, I try to listen to you guys,
but and I've stopped, and I said, okay, what's what's
the why don't you listen? And we had a great discussion,
brief discussion like ten minutes, but we had a great
discussion about his feelings and him being he said he's

(29:20):
a fiscal conservative, but he's leans left on other issues,
and we started talking out issue by issue, like okay,
Ann and I always use the phrase what animates you? Like,
what do you feel really passionate about? Because I think
that starting from what makes people, what really fires people up,
It allows them to talk about something they understand and
they feel good about.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
So he coming from a science background, we talked about
climate change and the notion that somehow people on the
right don't accept climate change and by the way. I
totally accept climate change, because the climate has been changing
since the beginning of the Earth. What I don't necessarily
accept is that we have an actual scientist the consensus,
because I've spoken to too many scientists over the years

(30:03):
that have a different theory, but they can't get funding
for their research because the government has decided what the
actual science is right. And that's a huge problem with
science right now, and it's a problem that Dwight D.
Eisenhower talked about in the same speech where he talked
about the military industrial complex. I love that speech because

(30:24):
it's literally one page long. It is not very long,
and as he warns of the military industrial complex, he
also warns of the scientific industrial complex, where the inventor
or the tinker in his or her garage. Of course
he doesn't say her, because back in the day women
really didn't get a shout out. But whatever in his
garage would be replaced by people that were willing to

(30:45):
do science at the behest of the government to get
the results that the government wanted. And that's what I
think of all the time. But in talking to Chad
the truck driver, I was, you know, you start to
realize and we sort of touched on this at the
end of Ross's show. When you talk to people issue
by issue about the things that are important to them,
why they think they're important, what their perspective is, you

(31:06):
begin to realize that we have a lot more in
common then we have that separates us. Now, there are
some issues that are highly divisive. Abortion is a highly
divisive issue. You either believe that life begins a conception
and is sacred or you believe that there's more flexibility
in that right. But that's a hard one to bridge.
But for the most part, the rest of it is

(31:29):
pretty straightforward, in pretty common, pretty easy to understand. And
in talking to Chad the truck driver, I was like, man,
I hope you give the show a listen. And I
don't even know if he's listening now, But you start
to realize, like, if we just focused on issues instead
of politics, maybe we could find that common ground. Maybe
we could find solutions. My frustration about finding solutions is

(31:53):
that I think I have some good ideas. Now I'm not.
I don't have all the world's answers to all the
world's problems, so I'm not that egotistical, but there are
certain things that I've spent a lot of time looking
into and a lot of time really thinking about how
to solve this problem. And one of them is the
welfare cliff. The welfare cliff, which is when you are

(32:16):
on any kind of government assistance and you get a
better job where you can start to move forward in
your career and gain more independence, they just cut you
off at the knees from all your benefits and that
raise may not be enough to make up the difference. Right,
So we have this welfare cliff, and it keeps people
in poverty, it keeps people dependent on the government. And
I cannot even tell you at this point how many

(32:38):
members of Congress, both Democrat and Republican, in three different states,
that I've talked to specifically, not even on the radio,
like off the radio, I've talked to them specifically about
solving this problem of the welfare cliff. To allow people
to get a job and then start to be promoted
in that job or workplace, allow them to get a

(32:59):
raise that's going to take them to the next level
where they're going to get it even bigger rays but
don't cut their knees out from under them while they're
trying to get out of poverty. I've shared this with
so many people. You could easily do a step down system, right,
you could easily do a sliding scale, like for every
dollar you make in more you know what, you may

(33:20):
end up being even for several years while you're working
your way up in the you know, in the workplace.
But we've got to allow people to have the ability
to succeed. And I have shared this with so many
members of Congress it's not even funny. And you know
what's happened, absolutely nothing. Nothing. And my theory is that

(33:40):
nothing has happened because every time Republicans talk about welfare reform,
and you're seeing it now in the demagoguery about the
big beautiful bill, well, they hate poor people. They hate
people on Medicaid, they hate people who get subsidies on
Obama Care. Look at their hate. But on the other side,
you have Democrats who are very invested in keeping people
dependent on the government, so they can go in the

(34:01):
political campaign season and say, if you vote for that guy,
who's going to cut your benefits. So they they they're
very invested. They for whatever on both sides of the
island not fixing this problem. So I love to talk
about solutions, but man, are we ever going to get
people that want to actually implement them? When we get back,
we're going to talk to Jack Corgan. The Rockies GM

(34:24):
Bill Schmidt is has left the building. We'll find out
a little bit more about that. I am hopeful that
this is the beginning of many changes in the Rockies organization.
We'll find out what Jack thinks right after this.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
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Speaker 2 (34:56):
And Connell Keith Sad. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second
hour of the show. And if you are a Rockies fan,
like I am a Rockies fan, you may have seen
the news that general manager Bill Schmidt is out and
what will come next. Well, let's check in with the
voice of the Rockies, our man, Jack Corrigan, who I'm

(35:18):
hoping has a little insight into what's going on over
there now. First of all, Jack, good to have you
on the show.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Well as always, Mandy, I love visiting with you.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Well you know, and I want to be clear like
you know, Jack, I know you feel the same way
like I don't want to celebrate someone losing their job,
but boy, did this have to happen. I mean, there
was no way for this not to happen.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yes, I mean there's no question. Bill Schmidt's a good
baseball man and has had a long run with the
Rockies organization, first on the scouting side and then as
the GM. But obviously, when you have three straight hundred
loss seats and you look at where the team sits

(36:04):
in terms of the immediate future, yeah, there has to
be Uh, there has to be a change not only
in the voice, Mandy, but I think in the philosophy
of how the team gets run going forward.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Is this the end of the so called Rockies Way,
which has been stunningly unsuccessful, especially as of late.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Let me be clearway tech question.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, while you think about that, let me for people
who don't know what the Rockies way has always been
strong draft, developed, developed talent in the hopes that they
develop into something that is going to be great, and
they've had some really great success stories in that in
that method. Unfortunately they all trade away or they get
signed away, they don't end up creating a winning team.

(36:55):
And Dick has been married Dick Monford has been married.
It's the Rockies way. Well, the Rockies way is working.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
So let's I will stop you there and say in
the Rockies place in the baseball structure based on media
revenue being a big push to how teams go forward,

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the size of market in terms of the Rockies being
the only team playing at altitude, all those considerations make
the idea that drafting and developing is still the best
way for the Rockies to go. Where the change has

(37:42):
to come in My thought is how they are drafting
and how they are developing. And I think for too
long this team got caught still with the whole Blake
Street Bomber idea of you know, bashing people at home

(38:03):
and then trying to survive on the road. Well, even
in the in the years that the Rockies have gone
to the playoffs, I think all but one time they've
been under five hundred on the road. So it's an
it's a story that doesn't play away from eighty feet.

(38:24):
And I think the types of players they need to
draft has to change, or has to be massaged, if
you will, into the types of players that give them
a better chance to win not only in Denver, but
when they're on the road.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I mean, just win, right, that's our Okay, So let's
talk structurally where we are now, because I'm going to
be perfectly honest Jack. You know, I'm a huge Rockeys fan.
I watched fewer games this year than I've ever watched
since I've been in this town. And we went to
a game on in August. I did not know a

(39:05):
vast majority of the players on the field. I had
never heard of them before. We don't have a player
to build around. We don't have players I don't feel
like to build around. If we do, just say, look,
we're gonna scrap it, We're gonna go and we are
going to rebuild this franchise from the ground up, which
I think needs to happen. What stays like? What pieces
do you see as the guy who watches every game?

(39:28):
Do you see that? You say, you know what? That guy?
That guy and that guy are people that we can
begin to work to bring in more talent around. I mean,
do we even have those right now?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yes? In quantity, no. In I think there are twenty
nine other teams that would fall all over themselves to
have Ezekiel Tobar right. There are all kinds of teams
that would love to have Hunter Goodman. I think when

(40:02):
you look at maybe not quite defined yet, but Brenton
Doyle is a piece you build around. I think Jordan
Beck is a piece you build around. You'll notice I
haven't mentioned any pitchers. Yeah, that's the that's I think.
I like where the ball club is going in the bullpen.

(40:24):
They've got lots of live, hard throwing young arms at
the back end of the bullpen, but mile might They've
got to figure out a way to find starting pitching,
you know. I think Kyle Freeland is a piece that
will remain out of out of the rest of the
guys who were in the starting rotation, the veterans, they're

(40:47):
not going to be here next year, and that's where
the where they have to start.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
What about Chasetlander, I mean, he was alternately fantastic but
obvious in my mind, obviously struggled. When he started to
struggle a little bit, it got to him like you
could see him sort of collapse mentally on the mound
in several starts that I watched. I did watch his starts.
I think he's very interesting. What are your thoughts on

(41:14):
the guy? You probably saw all of his starts.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Yeah, I think Chase has a chance to be a
high level pitcher. I think there are elements that you're
right on, and the idea of he did not farewell
emotionally mentally at Corsfield and that's something he's going to

(41:37):
have to get over now. He's not the first guy
that that happened to. John Gray was awful his first
year at Corsefield and then was good on the road,
and it took him a while to figure out how
that's going to play. I think in Chase's case as well,

(41:58):
some of the change is to the game. Fewer mound
visits are allowed, Fewer times that you can step off
or throw to first base, which sometimes was done in
the past just to settle down emotionally and mentally for future.

(42:21):
You don't have that ability anymore to do that. You
can only do that twice with a guy on base
per at bat. There are only four mound visits allowed
over the first eight innings of a game, so you
have all of those elements where you could take a
young pitcher and slow him down. He's trying to learn

(42:45):
how to do that on his own. You know, whether
it's a mechanical issue, whether it's a pitch selection issue.
Can't he can't turn to the iPad in the dugout
and look at it because that's through the fact. He
can't have the pitching coach come out and say, hey,
you're doing this right. Those are the things he has

(43:07):
to figure out and that will determine whether he reaches
the potential that his talent presents into being. You know,
the challenge of pitching half your games at course field
right now, I.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Feel you on that's let's talk for a second about
perhaps more changes that could be made in the front office.
And let's talk about the fact that the Rockies in
their statement said there will be an external search, and
I think that's significant. What do you expect that to
look like and what might they be looking for in

(43:44):
the new GM. Are they looking for someone who is
going to try and run the team or try and
run the team the way Dick wants it run, which
could be very two different.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Things, right, you know, And that's going to be the
question that nobody really knows till we see it start
to unfold as to you know, how much does Dick
allow Walker Montfort to make the decisions and to do
the things. Because I will tell you regardless of who

(44:17):
they bring in as the next person in their baseball operations.
Being around the game long enough forty years and talking
to lots of people, the Rockies need more talent evaluators
when they're drafting. If you're going to be a draft
and develop team, which they have to be based on

(44:38):
their market, you need more scouts. You need more people
looking in more places for more people. That's step one.
Step two is you need more instructors slash coaches at
the lower levels of the miners that give these guys

(44:58):
the opportunity to learn how to play when you're bouncing
between elevation and sea level, and those are two areas
where the Rockies can spend money that you don't see
necessarily but can make a difference. That's what teams like
Milwaukee in a smaller market, they've done that for the

(45:21):
last ten fifteen years. They have guys leave, they only
have one or two guys that stick around, but they
have the next plug in because the guys they are
bringing in that fit their ballpark and everything else. They
you know, Okay, hey, we lose so and so and
now we've got Jackson Curio and then when we lose

(45:45):
this guy we've got Seal Friedlich, you know, and it
becomes that process and the Rockies have had a disconnect
in that regard not only in being able to have
the next guy plug in if somebody does get traded
because they need a piece, or somebody goes for the

(46:06):
bigger contract elsewhere, that's where they have to improve and
they have to decide on what kind of team they're
going to be offensively. You know, the worst thing that
happened to this organization people are going to scream at me,
was the Blake Street bombers and the pre humidor effect.

(46:31):
And then as the game has changed, it was like,
we're going to find all these guys who could be
tight ends if they were in football, who mash runs
and that you want to have home run hit are sure,
because that's the easiest way to score. But your team
can't be all those guys with all the swings and misses,
all the strikeouts they have had over these last three years.

(46:55):
It correlates to the record. If you're not getting on
base with frequent or if you have people on base
and you're not moving them into scoring position or scoring
them because the people who follow strike out, it doesn't
matter whether you're pitching is good or not. If you're
not scoring, that's still the game. You got to score

(47:16):
more than the other team scores.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I feel like towards the end of this season, the
small ball did get better, and I don't know if
that is the function of the manager, who, by the way,
we don't know if he is going to be a holdover.
You know, here's the thing, here's what I feel about
the manager, and I felt this way about Budd Block.
I mean, you can only do so much as a
manager if you don't have the team with the talent

(47:39):
that you need. Right Like, it's easy to blame the
manager because you can't fire the whole team. But does
this manager make it through this next this next change,
or would you foresee a GM coming in and saying, Nope,
we're going to go in a completely different direction and
bring in somebody new.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Well, I think if that next GM head of Baseball Operations,
whatever title they give them, that person manny, I would
think he wants to have people that he has trust in,
he has confidence in, more than likely that he's worked before,

(48:19):
or he's admired from AFAR. That doesn't mean that Warren
wouldn't get consideration because I think Warren did a good
job for much of the second half of the season
maximizing what he had in terms of the talent. But

(48:39):
as you've got guys coming, and there are guys coming
from the Ethan Holidays to the Charlie Condons to the
Jared Thomas's, there are people coming. So that GM who
gets selected, he's going to want a manager that's twofold,
one that's going to fit how he teams is the

(49:00):
best way for this team to be successful. And then secondly,
because it's going to continue to be a young team,
how do I maximize the teaching side of getting these
guys better?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
All right, well, this is going to be I mean,
you know, Jack, I have to tell you, and again,
I'm not celebrating that someone lost their job, but I'm
celebrating that we're getting a new general manager, if that
makes sense, because it's just been like, I can't even
imagine doing the job that you and Jerry do making
those games interesting when they're clearly not most of the

(49:34):
time lately. And I hope that next year it is
a much more fun season for you and Jerry and
you know, Jesse to follow this team because there'll be
good things to talk about. That's my hope, and I
hope they bring in somebody who is one of those
baseball people that just feels it in their bones, Like
that's what I want. I want one of those baseball

(49:56):
people that lives, eats, breathe, and dies by the game.
That is what I want for this franchise. Someone who
wants to win more than anything in the world and
will accept nothing less. That's what I wanted a GM
who that is. I don't know what We're gonna have
to find out later.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Yeah, well, I think one. I appreciate the kind words.
The three of us still have a blast doing the games,
even when at times there wasn't much of a story
to tell. But you're right, they do need somebody, and
I will take it a step further. That has to
be outwardly passionate. I think, I think we need a

(50:41):
person in authority who the fans can respond to. Like
I said, Bill is a great baseball man, but quiet,
Jeff Bridage was quiet. I mean, you almost have to have,
you know, way too far with this, you know, almost
maniacal about how he displays his passion.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
That's what I'm talking about. That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Someone who bleeds the game and lives it every single
moment of every single day and says we're here to win.
We're gonna win a World Series and anything less is
a disappointment. That's what I want for my GM. So
hopefully we will get that. Jack Corgan, go go ahead.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
I said that would be good for all of us. Mandy.
You go find him for us.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
You know what if they if they put me in charge,
I guarantee you I would do a good job anyway,
Jack Corgan, you can hear him calling those Rockies games
next year, hopefully, when he is going to have lots
and lots of times to yell about home runs and
winning games and all that good stuff. Good to talk
to you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
As always, Mandy, I loved it.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Thank you all right, Thank you, Jack Corgan to the Texter.
Are you guys still having this sports show today or
does this count? It's a big deal. I'm I'm hopeful
that this is the beginning of a series of changes
for the Rockies because I love baseball, and I love
going to coors Field, and I love watching baseball, and
I want to do more of it. But man, they

(52:12):
have sucked the joy out of this game and it
hurts my heart. So you'll have to indulge me while
we talk a little baseball to this Texter, Mandy, what
are the Blake Street Bombers? Why the reference, Well, this
person is obviously new to Denver. Back in the day

(52:32):
when the Colorado Rockies first got their start, they fielded
a team that had some serious sluggers in it and
combined with the thin air this was before and Texter,
you may not know, they actually have a humidor that
keeps the balls properly moist, so they don't fly as
far as they did when they first started playing baseball

(52:54):
here because guys were hitting it out. Left guys on
both teams, by the way, opposite team US. And we
had a group of guys that played for the Rockies
and went into the playoffs and made it to the
World Series, and they were just home run hitters because
of the park, and they were called the Blake Street Bombers.
And so Jack was referencing that because now that seems

(53:15):
to have been the strategy that is embraced by the Rockies.
But the problem with big hitters is that they are
also usually big striker outers, so that becomes a problem.
It's not necessarily a winning strategy long term. So that
is who the Blake Street Bombers were and that is
why that matters now and how it has sort of
affected the Rockies' performance throughout the years. Mandy, a GM

(53:40):
who has total passion for the game would be fantastic,
but it won't address the owner issue, which is the
biggest issue. Let me just have this one thing to
say about the Montford ownership. If the Montforts got in
a passionate baseball person who is knowledgeable and smart and
then got out of his way, that would be the

(54:00):
best possible outcome. Because if I am the Montfort family,
I have to look at the performance of the last
three years and say, you know what, maybe we're not
good at this. Maybe we think we're good at it,
but maybe we're not. Maybe we need to defer to
someone who has a better track record at this than
we do. That would be my wish Manby my middle

(54:24):
name is Blake and my last name is Street. That's fantastic.
Mm mm hm. The Rockies have a humid or to
keep the balls moist, don't we, all, says this texter.
No actually all of us don't. Some of us don't
have to work anyway. I'm moving on the Denver Development Authority.
The downtown Denver Development Authority has made a big swing,

(54:48):
to use a baseball reference, they have bought the Pavilions.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Now, Aron, I'm guessing based on your reaction that you
have fond memories of the pavilion share some of that.
I wouldn't go as far as to say all.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
But when we go down in that area, and typically
it's when we either are going to a movie at
the Denver Pavilions or just want to do some shopping
in and around sixteenth pavilions had been a staple. And
I gotta tell you, is it forty percent vacancy now
or forty percent occupancy, because I gotta tell you it
feels like two percent occupant, right and it's a ghost town.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah. And let me, I got a lot to say
about this because my feeling is this, and this is
a reference that young people don't get, but folks my
age will absolutely get. My feelings about government are this,
if I can find it in the Yellow Pages. Government
shouldn't be doing it now for you youngsters out there,
I've never seen a phone book. And by the way,

(55:44):
if you're like me in over fifty, it may shock
you to understand how many young people have never laid
eyes on a phone book. The white pages were residential numbers,
so if you're going to call your friend, you looked
it up in the white Pages. The Yellow Pages was
all the business advertising and phone numbers if you can
find it in the Yellow Pages. Governments should not be
in the business of doing it. And that is how

(56:05):
I feel about this purchase. That being said, I hope
I'm wrong in what I think is probably going to happen.
I don't know if I am, because this isn't directly
the city of Denver, although when the mayor said, oh,
this isn't tax dollars, yes, yes it is. The Denver
Downtown Development Authority is funded majority wise by tax dollars.

(56:29):
The same taxing district it was created to renovate and
update Union Station is now being extended to go to
stuff like this the downtown. I'm gonna read this from
the Denver Gazette. The Denver Downtown Development Authority on Tuesday
approved spending up to forty five million dollars to purchase
and upgrade the Denver Pavilions. From that total, thirty seven

(56:52):
million will go to purchasing the shopping mall on sixteenth
Street in glenarm Place. And they're also buying a parking
lot next to the Denver Pavilions for twenty three million dollars.
That purchase happened last July. Now, there's a quote from
Mayor Mike Johnston in this story that immediately raised my eyebrows,
and that quote is many developers for decades have been

(57:16):
trying to unify these two properties. Okay, let's take that
on its face. Why not work with a developer who
does this for a living. Why not incentivize developers to
put competitive bids on the project. One of the reasons

(57:36):
that I think developers are not looking to do this
is that they are looking at the writing on the
wall when it comes to retail. And Mayor Mike Johnston
also wax poetic about his youth and going to the
Pavilions and they go for homecoming dances, they go to dinner,
and they go to movies and they go hang out
of the Denver Pavilions. And I get it. I totally
understand that that feeling because I had it too when

(57:58):
I was a kid. We went to the mall all
and hung out and we did all these things. The
world has changed. I mentioned it the other day when
I was at South Glenn about how many open retail
spaces exist in these big shopping centers. Retail is going
through a massive period of creative destruction as people are

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more and more buying online than they ever have before.
And that trend is not going away anytime soon. And
we've seen retail change go bankrupt. We've seen even Starbucks
is closing nine hundred stores. So retail spaces where people
gather all of that stuff has changed, and it's changed

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very dramatically. And what I wonder, I'm just curious if
the pavilions were on the market and they were on
the market for thirty seven million dollars and all the
developers passed, that would indicate it was overpriced. I mean,
we now have you, guys, we have office buildings in

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downtown Denver that sold for forty to fifty million dollars
not that long ago, selling for two point three million,
one million. Downtown Denver real estate is not an attractive
commodity at this point. For a lot of reasons. I
mean downtown Denver is also is the city or is

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the Denver Downtown Development Authority going to retrofit all these
buildings to meet the new green standards that were passed
by the Denver City Council. Do we even know the
condition of this place? I mean really so much. To
Anthony's point, is vacant right now. And nothing is worse
for a building than sitting vacant. It's amazing how much

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a building can decay just from lack of use right
and lack of regular maintenance. So what are we even
getting into here.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Now?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
The Denver Downtown Development Authority says they are looking to
reimagine them all and then find a developer to sell
it to in line with that vision. So they want
to dictate the vision and they want to find a
developer that's just going to develop it the way they
want it developed. Why did they have that middle step.

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Government should not be in the business of buying homeless hotels.
Government should not be in the business of buying real
estate in downtown Denver. Government should be in the business
of trying to find ways to incentivize private industry to
do these things with them or for them. In the
form of a public private partnership. You know that that
would have been perfectly fine. But I don't know. I

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looked last night online.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I looked.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I looked for examples of when a municipality has bought
a significant portion of real estate with the goal of
redeveloping it and then selling it to it, you know,
someone else. And I couldn't find anything. Now, there had
been areas like Jacksonville, Florida. They rehab their riverfront and
it opened a great fanfare. And I called a friend

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of mine who lives in Jacksonville, and she said to me,
nobody goes to the riverfront anymore. It's too dangerous. And
I was like, well, that's not what I wanted to hear.
But okay, this is to me a fundamental difference between
Democrats and Republicans. And I'm not even just talking about
leadership Democrat voters, and I'm making a sweeping generalization. If

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you're a Democrat voter and you don't fit into this category,
please don't be upset with me. I'm just going with
the broadest brush here. Democrat voters get mad when developers
make money. They don't like developer. Oh those developers, they're
coming well. Developers serve a very important purpose. Without them,
we wouldn't have very many nice things. Honestly, we really wouldn't.

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People that are willing to put their fortune on the
line to make things better. I have no issue with that,
But Democrats believe government can do it better, even though
Let's look at the homeless hotel situation as an example,
happens when government owns a building. The Salvation Army has
declined to rebid for the contract to manage the homeless

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hotels in part because they can't get the City of
Denver to fix the things that are broken in the
homeless hotel that they own. Cities are not good at
running businesses, and the City of Denver, as far as
I know, has absolutely no experience wooing high end retail
or restaurants or whatever. And by the way, how are
you now going to get restaurants in there when you've

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raised them in them a wage so high that a
mom and pop cannot compete. You're just going to go
after the chains? Is that where we're going to have
happen right now? I just I have reservations about this.
I don't have a lot of confidence that this is
going to go quite the way that they think it's
going to go, and I think it's going to end
up being yet another thing that the taxpayers have to

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bail out because government is getting ahead of their skis
and they don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
One area where I agree wholeheartedly with Mayor Mike Johnson
is we cannot allow the pavilions to just rot. We can't,
but I wish there had been more creativity and more
effort to bring in private partners to do the heavy lifting.
With the experience that they have. I'm almost positive that

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the Downtown Denver Development Agency they overpaid. When we've got
skyscrapers selling for two point three million dollars, You're telling
me that a mall that has I don't even know
what kind of occupancy is worth forty five or thirty
seven million. I find that hard to believe. And this
is one of the reasons that government should not be

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in this kind of business, because they're just not good
at it, not at all. Mandy. Furthermore, why does everything
feel like the Democrat party in power is just to
stuff their own pockets. Oh, don't kid yourself. There are
lots of politicians in both parties that I think use
government to grift in a way that we can not
even comprehend. That's how so many of them go into quote,

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government service and come out of government service millionaires. I mean,
shouldn't we all be asking that question? So I'd love
to say that that's only on one side. That boy,
it's on both sides. Not everyone, but both sides, Mandy,
they have the middle step because there are some shenanigans
going on. When the final owner is known, we will

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understand the grift that that very let me try that again,
very well, maybe true. I'll just leave it on that
tweet a few minutes ago, and I just want to
I want to call it out because this kind of
stuff is the kind of stuff that I'm no longer
going to let go without a comment. John Harwood is

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a longtime news media person. He's a journalist. He's worked
for all at Wall Street Journal, New York Times, NBCCNN.
He's now got a podcast. But about Pete Headsett's speech
he yesterday where he said over and over and over
again that the military as it is today is not

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good enough because it doesn't focus on excellence and in
his comments, and I watched a lot of his comments.
I didn't watch the very end, but I watched a
lot of his comments. Not one time did he talk
about race, or gender or any of this stuff, only
to say we just want anyone who can meet the standards,
and the standards should not be lowered, which I completely
agree with. So John Harwood tweets out this pete Hegseth

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has made it clear that if he had his way,
the US military would have no blacks in leadership positions
and no women at all. Guys, that is the dumbest,
most racist, sexist thing I have ever heard. And why
do we let people like John Harwood continue to say
things like that. When my husband joined the military, I

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think it was like nineteen eighty seven or somewhere around there.
Don't know exactly when. He will tell you to this day,
some of the people that had the biggest impact on
him as a human being from a leadership position, we're black,
we're female. And this was back in the late eighties,
so none of this DEI crap had ever been put

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into effect. The notion that somehow black people and women
cannot have a career in the military because they're not
good enough unless standards are lowered is legitimately racist. Now, yeah,
the physical standards to be in combat arms for women

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are going to be really hard for them to meet.
But I said it yesterday. I am on board with
requiring people who are going to be in extremely physical
jobs in the military. They should have to meet the
same standards whether they are male or female or anywhere
in between. I don't care if that means no women

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are in special forces, then so be it. Giving women
the opportunity to make it into special forces is what
I'm about. Giving them the option if they want to
work their butts off and achieve the physical level that
they have to achieve. I support that one hundred percent.

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But I am not in favor of women in special forces.
Just to have women in special forces, I think that's terrible.
It doesn't disservice to women. First of all, earn your
way there. And if you are not good enough, strong enough,
fast enough to earn your way there, I'm sorry, there's
going to be another position in the military for you.

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I have friends throughout my life. I have known two men.
One man all he ever wanted to be his entire
life was an Aavy seal. That's all he ever wanted
to be, so we joined the Navy with the explicit
intent of becoming an Avy seal. At about I don't know,
maybe three years into his service, he had the opportunity
to go to seal school and he was so stoked.
This was the fruition of a dream. He was so excited,

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could not be happier. Best day of his life when
he got tap to go to seal school, and the
last two or three days of the program during hell week,
he was doing something I don't even know what, and
in the process hurt himself so badly that his ACL

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could not be fully properly restored to where it needed
to be, and his dream of being a Navy seal
was over. But guess what, he found another area in
the in the Navy where he could still be fulfilled
and participate, and he's a lifer in the Navy. Now.
You don't just get to demand something because you want it.

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I feel the same way about men who want to
go into girls' restrooms and girls, you know, locker rooms,
just because you want it. Doesn't mean everybody else has
to capitulate. But when I see stuff like this that
without change or lowering standards, all of a sudden, this
guy thinks black women and women won't be in the military.
I mean, John Harwoito should be ashamed of himself. But

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doesn't that really show you what they think. They really
believe that in modern society, unless special privileges are being
given to someone who is black or of some other
ethnicity or a female, that these people can't succeed. That
is just gross and I'm not going to go anymore
without calling it out. It is so incredibly racist to

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assume that people cannot achieve at a high level because
the military that my husband joined, those people managed to
do it without any of the nonsense that we've seen
in the last twelve years. And it has absolutely be
It has been nonsense across the board. Okay, when we

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get back, Oh boy, do I have a lot of
stuff on the blog today. Oh we should check in. Ayrod,
has the world come to an end because of the
federal government shutdown? Oh God, where's a Rod? The world
has come to an end? We're no, he's right for now. Yeah,
he's right there. I couldn't miss him and his Jack
O Lantern sweatshirt. By the way, when we get back,
A couple of things that I want to talk about

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I know we talked about baseball, and you people who
don't like sports really are upset. But can we talk
about the Ryder Cup for just a moment, not necessarily
to talk about golf, but to talk about the disgusting
behavior of the people at the Ryder Cup as a
bigger symptom to what's wrong with our culture. Right now,
We're going to do that next.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
They there, Many Connell the Sad Thing. Welcome, Local, Welcome
to the third hour of the show. It is Wednesday.
I am Mandy, and that guy over there is Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
And that's Susan Witkin. Anyway, By the way, can I
meant to mention this earlier in the show and I'm
going to mention it now. We just lost a great
one in the fact that Pat Woodard, who you've heard
on this station for forever, has finally, finally actually retired retired.
And I gotta tell you, guys, if you are ever

(01:11:30):
hiking a fourteen er and you see a guy who
looks like Pat Woodard. It's probably Pat okay, because he's
a big hiker, big big hiker. But I was doing
the morning show on K Show W and they said, Okay,
we got this guy. He's going to be doing your
news for you and his name is Pat Woodard, and
I was like, great. The first newscast that Pat did

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during my show, at the end of it, I said,
I will not have you very long because he's just
one of those people. And Pat is not only a hiker,
he's also one of the most interesting people alive. His career,
his news career is he's he has the most interesting stories,
Like you'll be talking about about something, oh yeah, well

(01:12:14):
that time I was on the Orient Express and You're like,
what what are you talking about? He has the best
stories and he is going to be so missed by
all of us. And I just wanted to make sure
that I took a moment to just talk about what
an amazing talent and an amazing guy he is.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Well selfishly, I'll say maybe his interesting life is what
made him probably one of, if not top three or
number one, the best writer. Yeah that we've had ever had.
A way, he's just an electric writer. He's just in
his entertainment value, especially if you don't listen. If you
haven't been listening over the years to those money updates
on Colorado's morning news, you've been missing out, you really have.

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They are just always great, and I selfishly love his
use of sound bites and his interweaving of different stuff
into his casts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
He's just a phenomenal right. He tells a narrative. He
doesn't just do the news, he shares a narrative, and
just what an amazing talent. And I'm thrilled for him
that he has finally retired. He posted on social media
today that he managed to sleep in until five forty five.
It's amazing how fast you get over that, though, like
you'll adapt really quickly to that. I mean maybe not

(01:13:20):
because he's a little older, but I stopped doing a
morning show and I was like, wow, it is easy
to stop getting up at three o'clock in the morning.
It is super easy. So I got a couple of
things that I want to talk about, but I want
to talk about the Ryder Cup for just one second.
And for you non golf fans, nonsports fans, the Ryder
Cup is a is it every two or four years.

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I don't know, it's it's not every year, but they
bring in golfers from around the world and we have
a competition. It's the United States versus the world kind
of thing. And I grew up watching every two years,
every two years, thank you. I grew up watching golf
with my dad. I grew up going to golf tournaments
with my I know how to act at a golf tournament.

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I have been to many golf tournaments, and I have
seen people shushed, and I've seen people thrown out of
golf tournaments for engaging in behavior that is not considered
to be gentlemanly or gentle womanly, because golf is a
gentleman's game. But something is happening with golf in the
United States, and I'm blaming two things. I'm blaming Happy
Gilmore and I'm blaming the Waste Management Classic in Arizona.

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Are you familiar with the waste Management Classic, Anthony Nope? Okay,
let me tell you. The Waste Management Classic has been
allowed to become like a rowdy, drunken, out of control audience,
heckling the golfers, crowding the whole just generally acting like hooligans,

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and now that's spread to the Ryder Cup. And during
the Rider Cup, apparently there were fans that were heckling
incessantly the European team. By the way, the European team won,
so obviously it was very successful in all the nonsense.
People were drunk, they were out of control, and I
was like, what when did the soccer hool again show
up at a golf tournament. Golf is wonderful because of

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what it is, and if you've never been to a
professional golf tournament, it is a delightful way to spend
an afternoon. Whether you decide to park it at one
hole and just watch everybody play through, or you decide
to follow your favorite golfer, it's just lovely. It's a
lovely way to spend an afternoon. But the Ryder Cut behavior,
in my mind, is just another example of the coursening

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of culture that is leading us to the place where
we have people getting shot because they disagree, or people
getting shot because of road rage, or just generally people
acting like jerks. Because it's just the coursening of the
culture is such that and I don't know how to
turn this around. I just want to complain about it.

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I really don't. I wish I had the answers. I
wish I had some way to fix the fact that
people are awful. They're awful. Now I have another story
on the blog that has nothing to do with golf,
but is a great demonstrator of what I'm talking about.
And what do you think it's about. It's about the
zipper merge people. The zipper merge. The zipper merge is

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magical if we just do it correctly. Do you not
know what a zipper merge is. Let me tell you.
It is when you are going from two lanes of
traffic down to one, and it works like this. Everybody
stays in the lane that they're in. If you are
in the lane that is closing, you do not have
to try and get over half a mile before the
lane ends. Nope, stay in your lane. Stay in your lane.

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Because when you get to the front, when you get
to the very part where the lanes are supposed to merge,
and you are being four, then we do what's called
a zipper merge, meaning someone from the right goes and
merges into the new lane, then to someone from the
left merges in behind them, and then someone from the
right merges in behind them, like zipping up a zipper.
Do you understand zipping up a zipper? So, as we

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all know, it's construction season in Colorado right now, and
every road is under construction, especially in Douglas County. I
don't know if that there is a road that is
not under construction in Douglas County at this point, and
a lot of them have the zipper merge going on.
And this morning I was up early. I was driving
the breakfast that I went to for the South Metro
Republican group, and I found myself on one of those roads.

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We're going from two lanes to one lane. So what
did I do? I stayed in the right hand lane,
even though I knew it was closing, because I knew
at the end of it we could all zipper merge
and we could be happy. But is that what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
No, it is not.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
The people in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Front of me. I had no problem zipper merging. I
want to be clear about that. The person behind me, lovely,
I gave them the thank you wave even though I
was just doing what's supposed to be done. The people
in front of me complete disaster came to a complete stop.
Couldn't figure out what to do, and they both merged
over at the same time, ruining the entire zipper effect.
They essentially ruined the zipper. But now the Colorado Department

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of Transportation is officially supporting the zipper merge. So the
person in front of me that had to deal with
these two people and ended up ponking and flipping them off,
I saw the whole thing. You don't have to be
angry anymore because now we're going to embrace the zipper merge.
Se dot is made in an official policy and they

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will be putting up signs we can do this Colorado.
I feel good about it. We can do it. And
if you're way in the back because you got over
into the lane well before you needed to, and now
you're mad about it because people who are properly doing
the zipper merge have passed you on the right, don't

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be a jerk. Don't be a jerk. Let people in right, left, right, left.
It's beautiful, it works, it's efficient, it moves traffic much faster,
and you don't have to worry about everybody coming you
will full stop because someone's trying to merge well before
the zipper. So look for those signs and their signs
will be the following signs. Just to let you know,

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use all lanes to merge point and then merge here
take turns. Oh, I'm not saying my focus on the
Zipper Merge for the last few years has been you know, influential,
but I am gonna take credit now. We just need
all of you, all of the Mandy Connell listeners. If

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nobody else does it right, that's fine. You're gonna do
it right because we know what's right, and we do
what's right. And what's right is the Zipper Merge done correctly, Mandy.
When when somebody messes up the Zipper Merge, it's called
the zipper catches skin. Yeah, there you go, Mandy. I
love the Zipper Merge, but we're in a losing battle.

(01:19:54):
The truth will out and the right is on our side. People.
We can do this Zipper Merge for the wind, Mandy.
We need a Mandy Connells Zipper Merged Club complete with jackets, Yes,
satin jackets. What would our logo look like. Oh, I'm
going to AI and I'm making a logo obviously like
a zipper with your face is right in the middle. Yes,

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and then all the way around there'll be a circle
all the way around that just says right left, right, left, right, left,
right left all the way around.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
Yes, yep, and then a big emoji of a middle
finger where with a big cancel through it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:29):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
No, that's perfect flipping off. Yes, just zipper merge. This
person said, what about when the people in the back
of the left line jump into the right and cheat.
They are not cheating. They are doing it the way
it's supposed to be. Now, picture this, texter. You're in
a line of a quarter of a mile long in
the left hand lane. No one's in the right hand lane.

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You know, the zipper merge is coming up. You dip
into the right hand lane. You're doing it correctly, And
when you get to the point where you're supposed to
merge right left, right, left, they're not cheating, and it
makes traffic go faster. This is not theory, this is
not concept. It's been proven in traffic studies over and
over and over and over again. So I'll let you

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guys know when you can order the jackets. Yeah, Mandy,
some more zipper merge etiquette. Be nice and leave space
for tractor trailers to merge in and they need room.
Don't be a jerk and try to crowd two cars
into a gap. Alternate correct. And if you're going to
a single lane anyway, it doesn't matter that a big
slow truck is in front of you. Everybody's going slow,

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just saying, Mandy, I blame it on the signage. Rather
than say right lane closed ahead, it should say zipper
merge ahead, Yes, yes, Mandy, some more bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Wait.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
On Monday, we saw the signs in Glenwood Canyon and
they said take turns merging. How nice is that? Diane says, Hi, Mandy,
My husband and I were on I seventy eastbound, just
before the hole at E four seventy. He keeps saying zipper.
Not very many others understand that. Hopefully we don't get
caught in the zipper. Yeah, Mandy, This from Ralph. My

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oldest granddaughter does the zipper merge. One problem at the
merge point is people won't let you in. God forbid
someone get in front of them. And this is where
I'm just gonna give you my strategy. You guys, and
this is probably not right, but generally speaking, traffic is
going slowly at that merge point, I just start moving over.

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I just start moving over into the lane, and if
they honk at me, I wave, thanks, appreciate you. Until
we all learn how to zipper merge properly, we're gonna
have to be slightly more aggressive than you might be.
And I'm not aggressive. I don't like whip over, but
I do. Just drift over. It's fine, your face with

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the zipper across it. Okay, that's good. That could be.
That could be good, Mandy. The zipper Merged club would
be you and Marshall Zellinger and co presidents. I would
accept any co president who feels the same way about
the zipper Merge. I do anyone who's dedicated to the
spread of the zipper merge, to making sure that everyone

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understands what the zipper Merge is all about. I would
be one hundred percent in favor of that, Mandy. If
you're gonna have jackets, then you need a special handshake
with a little dance jig after. Hey, Rod, do we
need a handshake? What kind of handshake? I mean, how
would is zipper merg You'd have to bring your hands
together like this, right, Like you'd have to like push
them together like you were zippering. That would be awesome,

(01:23:38):
that'd be super awesome. Yeah, Mandy, I'm a ride share driver.
Zipper merges not only in construction zones, not the actual whoops,
let me try that again. Let me find that, Mandy,
I'm a ride share driver. Zipper merges only, not only
in construction zones, not on the actual merge to the

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interstate traffic would never get any slower than about forty
miles per hour. Yeah, you're like, we're not even talking
about merging onto interstate traffic. We're not. We're not having
that conversation. That is really just take your life into
your own hands. Do your best, Mandy. Do those traffic
studies involve I twenty five and sixth Avenue rebuild? No no, no, no, no, Mandy,

(01:24:23):
you need bumper stickers more than you need jackets. You
know that's true. But I don't want to put a
bumper sticker on my car. I'm pretty anti bumper sticker,
but I think that maybe we should have that. Mandy.
Think of it this way. Everybody let exactly one vehicle
in front of them, no more, no less. We can
let one vehicle over, can't we exactly exactly right? Text?

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See now we're in the spirit. Now we've got it. Now,
all of you people listening right now, you're going to
go out into the world and you're gonna be zipper
merged evangelists, and you're going to tell everyone about the
joys of the zipper Merge. And you are going to
joyfully zipper merge when others are all lined up in
the other lane and wave and smile. Thank you for
letting me in on the zipper merge emerging where I'm
supposed to. Thank you for your cooperation when we get back.

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An Aurora woman has now been charged with two counts
of a crime, one count of conspiracy and one count
of publicly disclosing personal information of a federal agent. What
was Ashley Brown, thirty eight, of Aurora up to. I
can make the argument that Ashley was engaged in a

(01:25:32):
bit of terrorism. Hear me out. I'll explain when we
get back. After the news trafficking weather, keep it on KOA.
It's about an Aurora women who has now been indicted
along with two Southern California women. A grand jury returned
an indictment charging them with following a US Immigration and
Customers Enforcement agent home and then live streaming the man's

(01:25:53):
address on social media. If you want to know why
I am against any sort of probe on ICE agents
or other law enforcement agents being banned from wearing any
kind of facial covering, this story should pretty much put
that to rest. What was Ashley Brown thinking? I don't know,

(01:26:14):
but what Ashley Brown could have done in a time
when our country is so divided that Charlie Kirk just
got murdered in front of a bunch of college students
for his beliefs, This very well could have led to
some harm coming to this man and his family, a
man who works for the government enforcing the laws of
our nation. And I have to believe that Ashley Brown,

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in at least some fashion, intended for that to happen.
What other reason would there be? Is the purpose to
frighten people, to scare them, to make them not want
to be an ICE agent? Is the purpose to put
ICE agents on notice that their families could be in

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because now people know where their families live. What is
the purpose exactly? And I would argue that you can
make the case, and I can make the case that
this is terrorism. No, I know that sounds like a
big word, and you're like, Manbie, come on, you're being
over the top. This isn't really terrorism until I looked
up the definition of terrorism the unflawful use of violence

(01:27:24):
and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Now,
one could argue that an ICE agent does work for
the government. I get that, But are we going to
hold one guy who doesn't make the policy for ICE
responsible in a way that puts him and his family
on notice that if they don't what do something differently,

(01:27:46):
if he doesn't do his job, or if he does
do his job, then the rest of the world is
going to know where he lives. So what a bad
actor can come in and harm him or his family?
What is the purpose of this if not that? And
I wish that they would treat people like that. I
wish that those were the charges that these women are facing.

(01:28:07):
The prosecutor's office says that Ashley Brown is also charged
in a separate case with assault on a federal officer
and that she is in federal custody without bond. She
appeared in court on September thirtieth. The other ones are
free on bond. One of them actually is not has
not been arrested. Yet the Central District of California acting

(01:28:29):
US attorney called the women's actions deeply offensive to law
enforcement officers and their family. Deeply offensive, how about deeply dangerous?
You know a few years ago you could have argued
that I was being over the top, like Mandy, what
are you talking about? People are gonna get violent with
an ICE agent? Is there any doubt that we should
be concerned about this? Now? Hasn't that been put to

(01:28:50):
rest as we see violence ratcheting up across the country.

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
I wish that they would charge these in with some
form of terrorism, because that's the purpose. The purpose, the
end game is to scare and intimidate ICE agents so
they won't do their job. That is the endgame. Now,
I want to move on to a story that I
find fascinating. I mean, I just Hunter S. Thompson, the
Gonzno journalist who gave us crazy stuff. I mean, I

(01:29:23):
think Hunter S. Thompson in many ways sort of is
the perfect example of the nineteen sixties and the turmoil
of the sixties and the seventies, and the writing that
he left behind sort of gives you a window into
that world that I'm not sure you could get from
anybody else as well. We also know that in two
thousand and five, it was determined that Hunter S. Thompson

(01:29:47):
shot himself on February twentieth at Owl Farm that was
his property in Woody Creek, which is north of Aspen.
He was sixty seven years old. The Pitkin County investigators
at the time said it was suicide. They had no
reason to believe it was not suicide. And now they're
reopening the case. Not because there's any new evidence, not
because there's anything that is broken or anything like that,

(01:30:10):
but the family has requested a review of his case.
So the Colorado of Your investigation will be reopening this.
I don't want to say reopening it like they're going
to be, you know, interviewing witnesses and all this stuff.
They're just gonna give it a fresh set of eyes

(01:30:31):
and make sure that the ruling or the determination that
was made in two thousand and five was actually made properly.
And I'm just I'm curious. How can you not be curious?

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
What is it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
That has made the family think this is necessary? That's
the question I have. I don't know. By the way,
we'll find out I mean, I guess they're going to
really something after they investigate it, But I just I
thought that was very, very interesting, and I'm kind of
wondering if any of you have any insights. I don't know, Mandy.

(01:31:10):
I know many conservatives who don't want anyone to know
they are conservatives. Lots of nuts out there, guys. This
since the death of Charlie Kirk has been on my
mind non stop. Am I putting myself in my family
in danger because of what I do for a living?
I hate to think that, but how can you not?
And for me this is gonna sound so like it's bravado,

(01:31:35):
But because of my belief system, because of my relationship
with God. Like I don't particularly fear death for myself,
I worry about it more for my husband and my daughter.
And I don't want to die.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
I try.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
I want to live, to be a healthy, ripe old
age and have a happy life from here on out.
To be clear, just to clear that up, just in
case I get suicided in some No, I'm not going
to commit suicide ever. I would never do that, but
I do. I worry about my family. I worry about him.
I putting my daughter in harms way. It's one of
the reasons that I've always protected her identity so carefully,

(01:32:12):
not just the danger part of it. I haven't really
thought about that, to be honest, but just to give
her her own anonymity and plausible deniability, right because when
she was little, I got into a situation where other
parents found out who I was and what I did
for a living, and they literally did not invite my
preschool age daughter to their kids' birthday parties. Was awful.

(01:32:38):
But now I think about safety. I think about security.
So anyway, Mandy, I have looked all over the internet,
and you might know where I can find the FM
station or AM station to listen to the Charlie Kirk Show.
He is a part of the Voice America network, and

(01:32:58):
I know that your best bet for that is going
to be listening to a podcast after the fact, and
he's on Spotify, Apple and one other. Hang on one second,
really quickly, let me just pull up my Crystal Clear
audio on the iHeart Radio app and see if he's
on the iHeartRadio app. And if so, that's always where

(01:33:21):
I recommend you go, because you know, it's it's our
it's our. Yeah. The Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
You can.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
You can listen to it on the iHeart radio app
as well, so please check that out. By the way,
I saw this earlier during the show, and I haven't
had time to fact check it, so don't take this
to the bank. But it certainly is interesting that the
first episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, the one where
Erica Kirk was on the show, in twenty four hours,
got a billion downloads. Now again, hang on, let me

(01:33:51):
see here if I can find some kind of clarification
or confirmation on that before I send it into the
ether download. Let's see what we got. Uh uh, I
don't know. I'll see if I can find that, because,
like I said, I saw it earlier. Oh wait a minute, Nope, nope, nope.

(01:34:18):
I'll see if I can find it and if it's accurate.
But I'm sure it was incredibly, incredibly well listened to.
What's been fascinating for me since Charlie Kirk's death was
now I'm in the algorithm because I've watched enough of them,
so now my social media is feeding more of these
videos to me. I cannot tell you how many videos

(01:34:38):
I've watched of young black men saying everybody said he
was a racist, so I wanted to watch him to
find out how racist he was, and I found out
I'm being lied to by everyone, just lied to. That's
been really, really fascinating, Mandy. I remember when Rush warmed
that fame was not what people think it is. It's

(01:34:59):
not cool. I don't there's I got into radio a
long time ago, well before the internet was really a thing.
I got into it in part because I loved the
concept of anonymity, being able to go through life and
have people not know who you were. And when I
was a kid, way back in the day, there was

(01:35:19):
a syndicated shock jock on in the morning and his
name was the Ape Man, and he used to go
into work wearing a gorilla mask because he didn't want
anybody to know who he was. So he would literally
get out of like drive up in a gorilla mask,
get out of his car, go into the station, and
then leave again. And that was part of the mystique, right, like,
nobody knew who he really was, and I loved that.

(01:35:43):
I just thought that was the coolest thing. And as
a matter of fact, when my first boss, when we
first got a website for the station that I was
working for, and they're like, hey, we got to get
some pictures done so we can put your picture on
the website. And I was like, Eh, hard pass, No,
do not want to do that. But it rapidly became
a parent that the Internet was a thing that wasn't
going away. So here we are, and now you can

(01:36:04):
look at a bunch of old pictures of me on
the internet because there's no new pictures out there. Mandy
was Mandy up early enough to wake up green Day
this morning. I got up this morning early because I
had to be at Magiano's this morning at seven to
speak to a lovely group of Republicans, and I loved it.

(01:36:24):
Apparently Charlie Kirk's show is on our competitor kN US
ten to twelve. So is that ten am? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:36:40):
I do not know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
How convenient Denver is not on the list for the
Charlie Kirks show on radio. If anything says Democrat city,
that's you, guys. The politics of Denver have nothing to
do with the radio in this town, and they certainly
don't have anything to do with the programing that Salem
Media puts. Some of are on k and US I
mean that's the notion that those two things are other
than who's your audience, right, I mean, we have a

(01:37:03):
sizable audience, and we have people that listen that are
not on the right, which I'm always flattered when I
find out that people are like, oh, I disagree with
everything you're saying, but I listen every day. I'm always like, yeah,
thank you. Last story I want to get in. In
the last five minutes of the show. It's going to
get harder and harder to blame Israel for the ongoing

(01:37:23):
strife in Israel and the Gaza strip when Hamas is
being urged to take the deal that is being offered
by the Trump administration, and they've pretty much come out
and said, yeah, sorry, a hard pass. We're not going
to do that. Hang, I'm trying to get to this
story that is paywalld until I put my address in there. Great,

(01:37:43):
here we go, cutter or. Qatar, Egypt, and Turkey are
urging Hamas to give a positive response to President Trump's
proposal for ending the war in Gaza. These three countries
have been the biggest mediators with the closest ties to
vas As a matter of fact's leadership lives in Doha, Cutter,
they've lived, they live in palatial digs while ordering the

(01:38:07):
murder of Jews and the continued holding of the hostages.
And Cutter, Egypt and Turkey are now saying Tomas, hey,
you better figure this out and why not accept this deal?
So let me jump over to what Amas is thinking.
According to Yah the Telegraph, Hamas is expected to reject

(01:38:27):
Donald Trump's plan for peace in Gaza. A senior figure
within the terror group said the twenty point proposal serves
Israel's interests and ignores those of the Palestinian people. But
see it would prevent the Palestinian people from being murdered.
So let's start with that. If you'd like the Palestinian
people to live and live in prosperity, you probably need

(01:38:49):
to give the hostages back. That would solve a lot
of problems. A lot of problems would go right away.
Just give the hostages back. And what could be a
sign that Hamas in tens to hold on to power
In the strip The source told BBC that the group
would probably not agree to hand over its weapons, and
then it objected to the deployment of an international stabilization force.

(01:39:12):
Now those two things right, there. What kind of peace
can be had if Hamas will not disarm and if
we don't get some kind of you know, neutral party
in to begin the rebuilding of Gaza. Other points in
the plan include releasing all the hostages, both dead and alive,
within seventy two hours of a ceasefire, and freeing more

(01:39:33):
than two thousand Palestinians from Israeli jails. A shark al
Awah Sat, a Saudi Arabian newspaper, also reported that a
source close to Hamas suggested the group might ask for
adjustments on the timetable of the hostage release. How in

(01:39:53):
the world is the narrative that Israel is the problem
going to continue in the world?

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
So I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
At what point do we just go? You know what,
maybe Hamas is the problem. You know who's not the problem,
Rick Lewis. He's working his way into the studio right now.
I listened to your program as I was up early
early this morning because I'm practicing, because you've promised that
I can come in and co host with you when
Kathy Lee's off again.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Oh really, you were up and listening. So what time
do you wake up?

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
I wake up super early, but I don't turn the
radio because normally I'm getting ready for the show. Right
this morning, I had I had a speaking thing at
seven am. Okay, cool, So I went to Spokes to
speak to a breakfast. I was in the car for
a good half hour and I was like, I'm going
to tune in and see what ricking Kathy Lee are doing.
So I know how to fill in properly.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
So you're doing show.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Due diligence. Look at you. Maybe I don't want to
just co host. I want to dazzle, Okay, I want
people to be mad that you're cheating on your work
wife with me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
That's what I want exactly how I do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
I want anger.

Speaker 8 (01:40:56):
You want to shine every time you I do. And
you know what, I feel like you and I maybe
had a show together in a previous life.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
I really do you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Maybe I'm not kidding. We we know that we got
a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
Yeah, we do. We We we have chemistry. Rick Lewis
absolutely how did the show and Evergreen go? Did you
guys just blow the doors off? I saw some of
the social media stuff. Of course you sounded every it
was just it sounded amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
I wanted to thank you because a lot of your
listeners showed up.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Yay.

Speaker 8 (01:41:23):
They were coming up to me, said they heard it
on the Mandy Connell Show, and it was a special
night man the band. It's probably the best we've ever
played because we were so inspired. People in the audience
were so inspired and music is so healing. It is
it's I said on stage, it's God's medicine. And uh,

(01:41:45):
people were crying while we were playing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
While they were dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
I love that we were dancing colective let it out.
Oh man, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
It was a night of healing. It was very special.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
From that, I'm just like, that's really special.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Raised a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
That is phenomenal. I'm super happy to hear that. You know,
it's funny. I've never been to any kind of live
music event and not left happy. Okay, wait, I'll take
that back. I saw Willie Nelson play at the House
of Blues in Orlando probably twenty years ago now, and honestly,
Rick like three songs in I'm with my brother, my

(01:42:22):
brother leans, everyone goes does he seem like we're bothering
him by making him play? He really never seen a
more disinterested artist in my life who was literally going
through the motions, so obviously that he should have hung
a sign around his neck that just said I'm going
through the motions. It's the only time I left. Yeah,
that was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
I know this was a special night.

Speaker 8 (01:42:43):
And I want to think Brenda too, our boss, Brenda
Egger came to the show, had a great time in that.
We did an auction upon stage before the show started.
I had this Broncos signed Zach Allen Jersey right, and
the it stalled out, I think at about fifty teen
hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Brenda from the.

Speaker 8 (01:43:02):
Balcony there, I said, Rick, Rick, throw in four club tickets, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
Then off hocket. It took off and it went up
to about twenty five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
And then she said, Rick, how about four field passes?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
What threw that in?

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
And we got to over four thousand bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Oh, that's fantastic that package.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Thank you, Brenda.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
And I also that that was something that the Evergreen
community can look to as a as a real positive
out of the toughness that they have had in the
last little bit. And now we go, okay, here on
the radio of its guide, now you go in the world.
Well done, Thank you. Okay, I'm a.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Professional I want to shine when I'm on the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
You we all want to shine. We always want to
do our best. Yes, what is our dad joke of
the day?

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Place a sweater I bought was picking up static electricity,
so I returned it to the store.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
They gave me another one free of charge.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
I could see that punchline.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
That's a good one, Rick lose. What do you rate
that out of five? Just like you guys do two
and a half?

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
Yow?

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Did I tell you about my neighbor. My neighbor keeps
getting attacked over and over again by the same bicycle.
It's a vicious cycle wreck.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Okay, shout.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
What the word of the day. Please. It's an adjective
adjective preter natural. Oh shoot, this is one of those
words that I always have to look up when I
see it in a book and I don't remember what
it means.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Was adjusting my headphones?

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Preternatural? Yeah? That preter natural? Is it something that is
like like not? It's paranormal? Is that another word for paranormal?
I don't know. I never know what this word.

Speaker 5 (01:44:50):
No, it's a formal adjective used to describe things that
are very unusual in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
That does not seem natural, so kind of okay, yeah,
but not necessarily mystical. Like I was saying, I always
have to look up that word, and I obviously can't
remember what I looked up. Okay, what video game character
was originally known as Jumpman? Is that the Guy from
Dark or the Guy from a Remember the old Atari

(01:45:15):
game where the guy was jumping over the alligators?

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
I think of Michael Jordan's video game guy. Video game Guy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
He's a guy in Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong,
Donkey Kong. He jumps over all the barrels and everything else. Mario,
That's what I thought. Oh wait, Mario, he first and
the carpenter in the arcane. I did not know that
was the same Mario. I had no idea he was
reimagined the plumber you know today shortly after I had

(01:45:46):
no idea that was the same character, and learn that's
why we do the show. Uh oh, here we go.
It sounds creepy.

Speaker 5 (01:45:54):
October first for today in Jeopardy is tradition Okay, no time, people.
A Celtic tradition of using hollowed out turnips with candles
inside led to these distinctive are what is jack lantern?

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
That is correct?

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
It said these two colors traced back to the Festival
of sam Heine, one representing death and the other the
autumn harvest.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Manny, what are orange and black?

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
Direct? The game's begun?

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
Oh okay, my headphones aren't working.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:27):
The first time the White House was decorated for Halloween
was in nineteen fifty eight, when she Ike's better half
hung owls and goblins?

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
What is twice?

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Oh well maybe it is maybe eyes an hour? Correct?

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
Okay, I was gonna says I forget.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
I kept thinking of Daisy, and I was like, that's wrong.
That's clearly not right.

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
This no Hands Halloween game may be related to the
Roman celebration of the goddess Pomona Mandy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
What is bobbing? For apple? Correct? And for the sweep.

Speaker 5 (01:47:02):
This twentieth century Performers Museum in Scranton, Pennsylvania features an
online seance every Halloween. Scranton Speak more about the performer
This Performer's Museum Very famous Rick Rick Riple? No man?

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Who's Vincent Price? Rong dang over? Who is wi? Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:47:34):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Har I assume you're sticking around for KA Sports. That's why, yes, ma'am,
are you guys gonna talk about Bill Schmidt? Because we
already talked about it today. That will come up, I am.
I am ready to see the next generation of Rockies baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Farewell Bill Schmidt. Yes, we're ready.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
I think your party is ready for that. Best of
luck to you, KOE Sports coming up next. I'll be
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